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Finding Answers: Colleen Quigley on Injury Lessons, Stepping Into HYROX & Owning Her Worth · Hurdle with Emily Abbate

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  Speaker 1: If you believe it to be true and you feel
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  Speaker 1: like you know something like own it and act accordingly.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Emily Abadi. Here you are listening to another
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  Speaker 2: episode of Hurdle, a podcast featuring the mindset, secrets, and
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  Speaker 2: true stories of the most inspiring women in sports and wellness,
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  Speaker 2: empowering you to live a healthier, happier, more motivated life
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  Speaker 2: and of course, conquer your own hurdles. This week on
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  Speaker 2: the show, I am sitting down with a good friend
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  Speaker 2: of mine, Olympian and Lululemon ambassador Colleen Quickly. We caught
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  Speaker 2: up right here in New York City, shortly after the
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  Speaker 2: USATF Outdoor Championships, Colleen herself not participating, but in town
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  Speaker 2: to cheer on one of her Team Meridia teammates. For
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  Speaker 2: those of you that don't know about Meridia, it's a
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  Speaker 2: woman led pro track team, say Pro Track Team five
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  Speaker 2: times Fast, founded by Colleen, that is focused on athlete
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  Speaker 2: storytelling and mental health advocacy. In today's combo, we chat
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  Speaker 2: about how Colleen's in a really different place today compared
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  Speaker 2: to ten years ago when she first made the Olympic team.
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  Speaker 2: We dive deep into her mental shift navigating injuries.
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  Speaker 3: What it's like to be someone that so many people.
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  Speaker 2: Want to talk about theirs with and how she's embracing
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  Speaker 2: whole new challenges like taking on the world of high rocks.
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  Speaker 2: There may be a race announcement in today's episode.
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  Speaker 4: Also a fun note.
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  Speaker 2: By the time this episode lands in your feeds, both
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  Speaker 2: Colleen and I will have just finished running Lululemon's seweez
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  Speaker 2: over in Vancouver. I am so excited to get back
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  Speaker 2: to Vancouver. It's been i mean eight years since I'd
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  Speaker 2: been there last I Digress, So you know, we had
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  Speaker 2: plenty to chat about when it comes to racing and
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  Speaker 2: mindset and showing up for yourself through every season of life.
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  Speaker 2: And with that, let's get into it. Let's get it's
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  Speaker 2: a hurdling.
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  Speaker 4: Today.
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  Speaker 2: I am sitting down with Colleen quickly. She is an
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  Speaker 2: Olympian she's also the would you call yourself the founder
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  Speaker 2: of Meridia?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like founder these days is such a loaded
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  Speaker 1: and stupid word. But I did start a team. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: she just started a team. It's called Meridia. Colleen quickly,
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  Speaker 1: welcome back to Hurdle.
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  Speaker 4: How are we? Thank you. It's so fun to be
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  Speaker 4: here after eight years. Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 1: I guess I've maybe done one since then. Yeah, but
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  Speaker 1: my first time on the pod was episode thirty. I
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  Speaker 1: just looked it up before this, twenty eighteen. We are
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  Speaker 1: different humans.
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  Speaker 4: We have both evolved a lot since that. I'm proud
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  Speaker 4: of us.
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  Speaker 2: Dude, okay, who but we have both of all to
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  Speaker 2: trigger you.
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  Speaker 3: I oh my god.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, I was doing some research into like
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  Speaker 2: so much of the mental work that we'll get into
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  Speaker 2: talking about today, and I was like, oh my god,
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  Speaker 2: there's just so much trauma stored in my body in.
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  Speaker 4: So many different places. Yeah, yeah, we can talk about that.
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  Speaker 2: We will a little teaser, a little teaser for what's
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  Speaker 2: coming down the pipe. Okay, I know I did a
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  Speaker 2: breezy how are you? But how are you doing really
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  Speaker 2: right now?
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  Speaker 4: College? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Monday morning in New York City I guess one day
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  Speaker 1: after the twenty twenty six US Track and Field National Championship.
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  Speaker 1: This is like my fifteen million year not competing at USA,
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  Speaker 1: and it gets easier every year. I had one athlete
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  Speaker 1: competing in the steeple chase on Saturday, sixth place, like
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  Speaker 1: Gracie had a sixth place, and we.
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  Speaker 4: Just wrote about it.
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  Speaker 1: I have a weekly newsletter for the team that I write,
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  Speaker 1: Meridia Mondays, So I was just sitting in a coffee
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  Speaker 1: shop in Brooklyn nearby writing the newsletter and I got
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  Speaker 1: it sent off right before walking over here.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, Monday morning's going pretty well.
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  Speaker 1: There's always like crazy lots of things going on, but
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  Speaker 1: mostly I feel like, right now I'm happy to be
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  Speaker 1: in New York, one of my favorite places in the world,
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  Speaker 1: New York in July, and just like having fun with.
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  Speaker 2: That, having fun with that. It's really interesting and beautiful.
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  Speaker 2: The way that you would just spoke about, you know,
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  Speaker 2: my zillion time not competing at US as feels a
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  Speaker 2: little bit loaded.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean coming to USA is when you're in
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  Speaker 1: a position like mine is always it's like I'm super
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  Speaker 1: excited for Gracie and you know, I'm like my heart
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  Speaker 1: is just pouring into every I know exactly how it
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  Speaker 1: feels to be in her shoes and all that. And
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  Speaker 1: then I'm watching the race and I'm like years past
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  Speaker 1: I've been watching the race, and like last year I
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  Speaker 1: watched from the upper like nosebleeds at Hayward and I
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  Speaker 1: started crying during the race. I was just like, oh, like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it was just I want to I feel
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  Speaker 1: like I should be there, and it's like a very
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  Speaker 1: loaded thing. And this year I had none of that.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't feel actually like didn't even realize un till
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  Speaker 1: after that, I like, oh, that was like a race
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  Speaker 1: I would have been in, Like I was just so
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  Speaker 1: dialed into this is Gracie's race, and like I'm here
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  Speaker 1: on behalf of her in the capacity of supporting her.
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  Speaker 4: So it's kind of interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I was talking to Rye Benjamin on the
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  Speaker 1: like whatever concourse and he was like, how, like how
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  Speaker 1: are you feeling her, Like did you have any feelings
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  Speaker 1: of like wanting to be in the race.
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  Speaker 4: And I was like, not even a little.
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  Speaker 3: Did RAI have feelings about wanting to be in the race.
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  Speaker 1: He was more like he's he felt like he didn't
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  Speaker 1: need to compete at usas or whatever. But it's different
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  Speaker 1: for him because he's like, I chose not to do it,
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  Speaker 1: and like I could go out there and beat everybody
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  Speaker 1: if I wanted to, but I chose not to. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad to not have like the stress of usas
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  Speaker 1: there's no team to make it and so it's just
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  Speaker 1: like I get to come against his birthday. So it's
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  Speaker 1: just like in the city for his birthday, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like seeing friends. So mine is more like, yeah, it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't feel as much of a choice to not do
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  Speaker 1: it because I'm like an Olympic champion. Yeah, I just
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  Speaker 1: didn't want to do it, which is a position he's in,
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  Speaker 1: which is great and we love that for him.
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  Speaker 2: How do you think, and I mean this is a
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  Speaker 2: loaded question, but how did you get to a place
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  Speaker 2: where you feel like this now because so much work
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  Speaker 2: has gone in to the mental gymnastics that enables you
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  Speaker 2: to be here feeling present, feeling excited to be as
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  Speaker 2: you are in this moment.
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  Speaker 4: Totally.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think one big thing happened for
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  Speaker 1: me this year was I got a different type of
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  Speaker 1: image on my left foot is like my achilles feel
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  Speaker 1: like I've always just had issues since high school with
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  Speaker 1: that foot. It's usually the issues that it just breaks,
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  Speaker 1: and I just couldn't understand why, because I feel that
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  Speaker 1: I'm a really overall very healthy person, which is weird
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  Speaker 1: because I'm always injured. But I'm like, I'm a very
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  Speaker 1: healthy person, and I have a really strong body, and
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  Speaker 1: I like do all the right things, and I have
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  Speaker 1: a lot of amazing people who help, you know, try
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  Speaker 1: and keep me healthy. Yet I cannot keep my foot healthy.
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  Speaker 1: It's like this one thing that I just can't figure out,
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  Speaker 1: and it's so frustrating. And then I got a different
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  Speaker 1: type of image earlier this year that finally helped me
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  Speaker 1: understand my foot in a way that I never have
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  Speaker 1: and it showed that I have a chronic probably been
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  Speaker 1: there for who knows how long, Maybe I'll throw out
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  Speaker 1: like ten years.
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  Speaker 4: Liz Frank injury.
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  Speaker 1: So Liz Frank is a joint, a ligament in like
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  Speaker 1: your midfoot that keeps It's like responsible for keeping your
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  Speaker 1: arch up and helping you roll through the middle of
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  Speaker 1: your foot and push off your big toe.
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  Speaker 4: Basically I can't do that.
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  Speaker 1: I can't roll through my foot and push off my
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  Speaker 1: big toe and haven't been able to for a long time.
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  Speaker 1: I can't do a stand on my left leg and
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  Speaker 1: do a heel raise. I can't get my heel off
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  Speaker 1: the ground. It's been like that for a while. And
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  Speaker 1: I just I'm like, it's not for lack of calf strength,
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  Speaker 1: Like have you seen these puppies, Like, it's not that
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  Speaker 1: you just can't figure out why. And it was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're that that joint is calcified.
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  Speaker 4: It's soft, like it.
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  Speaker 1: Just is completely your body has put down calcification in
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  Speaker 1: order to try and create stability in an area where
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  Speaker 1: there was a torn ligament, and so it's just calcified.
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  Speaker 1: And then the bones around it have gotten arthritic because
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  Speaker 1: they can't like move properly, and yeah, having been like
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  Speaker 1: that for so long, like you know, this is just
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  Speaker 1: kind of like what your foot is now. And I
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  Speaker 1: was like, oh, like okay that, Like I read the
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  Speaker 1: kind of the AI. I readoubt of what the symptoms
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  Speaker 1: are for this type of injury, and I was like
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  Speaker 1: doing some research with my buddy chat gpt on like hey,
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  Speaker 1: none of these stupid doctor as somebody able to figure
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  Speaker 1: this out, maybe like the robots can, and yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: it was like showIn it's like telling me all this
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  Speaker 1: stuff and I was like, oh, that's exactly me, Like
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  Speaker 1: how have we missed this?
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  Speaker 4: Like this is so obvious now.
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  Speaker 1: But then what happened was like in the weeks and
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  Speaker 1: like yeah really weeks after that, I was just like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: like I'm not crazy. This is a real thing. It's
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  Speaker 1: like pretty bad and I'm done. I was just like
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  Speaker 1: I'm not doing this anymore. I'm not I'm not going
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  Speaker 1: to the I'm not going to go find the next
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  Speaker 1: doctor with the magic thing. And then like I just
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  Speaker 1: I can't. I'm like too tired and I just can't
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  Speaker 1: do it anymore. And I think that was what was
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  Speaker 1: able to give me the peace that I am now
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  Speaker 1: where I'm like at USAS and I'm just like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to be in that race, Like I
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  Speaker 1: just can't, you know, I can't fight it anymore. I
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  Speaker 1: feel like I did absolutely everything I could have done,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm just like ready for a new challenge. I'm
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  Speaker 1: ready for something different and something that makes me get
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  Speaker 1: excited and doesn't make me feel like defeated every time
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  Speaker 1: I get to USA's And I tried to get there
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  Speaker 1: and then I you know, I couldn't make it happen,
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  Speaker 1: and then I just feel like defeated again.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just ready for a new challenge.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, understandable. It's been such a journey for you.
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  Speaker 2: And also that doesn't mean that it's less frustrating in moments,
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  Speaker 2: although this is the theme lately for me, is that
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  Speaker 2: clarity might not always give you what it is that
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  Speaker 2: you want, it will always give you what you need.
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  Speaker 2: And so now you have the information that you need,
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  Speaker 2: you say that I'm ready for a new challenge. I'm
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  Speaker 2: ready to move forward. What do you anticipate that looking like?
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  Speaker 1: For you, first, it was like, okay, well, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's just this like big question mark. There's actually I
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  Speaker 1: feel like a million things that I could do that
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  Speaker 1: could be fun, that I could be good at, that
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  Speaker 1: I could use my skill set for. And but that's
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  Speaker 1: that's actually really overwhelming to be like, there's so many.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, but I don't know which one. You don't
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  Speaker 1: know which one is going to make me feel fulfilled.
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  Speaker 1: And there's this kind of sadness about like, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if there's anything that will make me feel the
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  Speaker 1: way that trying to go to the Olympics made me
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  Speaker 1: feel like that's an incredible like journey to be on
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  Speaker 1: and it's it's hard to imagine something that I set
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  Speaker 1: at a desk and like try to. I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: it's just like hard to imagine. So there's there's a
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  Speaker 1: big like this is just a big shift and change
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  Speaker 1: in everything you know that I've known for the past however,
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  Speaker 1: like ten years, and it's it is not lost on
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  Speaker 1: me that this year is the summer the ten year
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  Speaker 1: anniversary of the summer I went to the Olympics. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and I like, I don't know, I like kind of
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  Speaker 1: things that fit and make sense and feel, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and it's like ten years and this is I didn't
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  Speaker 1: realize that until.
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  Speaker 4: Like a month ago.
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  Speaker 1: I guess my parents were I was with my parents
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  Speaker 1: and a few weeks ago they were in Colorado visiting,
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  Speaker 1: and my dad was like ten years ago, we were
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  Speaker 1: at the Olympic trials together like this weekend, and I
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  Speaker 1: was like, oh shit, like, yeah, that's.
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  Speaker 4: Crazy, you know.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was July fourth of twenty sixteen, and
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  Speaker 1: so yeah, it's definitely it's going to take me some
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  Speaker 1: time to figure out what like all those other pieces
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  Speaker 1: look like. Getting a lot of pressure from my other
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  Speaker 1: half to like start a family and all those things,
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  Speaker 1: which probably is like, yeah, coming down the pipeline.
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  Speaker 4: But I'm also really interested in this new sport of
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  Speaker 4: high rocks. Oh okay, high rocks. Yeah you've heard it
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  Speaker 4: here first. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I just I feel like it's not that often that
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  Speaker 1: a new sport kind of like takes over the world,
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  Speaker 1: not you know, I feel like the US is even
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  Speaker 1: like a little bit late to figuring out high rocks
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  Speaker 1: takes over the world that is popular and fits within
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  Speaker 1: your strengths as an athlete, and not only like the
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  Speaker 1: actual exercises and like the movements, like the running and
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  Speaker 1: the strength part of it, but also like the venue
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  Speaker 1: being very like like I tried trathon for a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: and I tried to do law course and I wasn't
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  Speaker 1: the physical exercise of it.
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  Speaker 4: I really enjoyed.
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  Speaker 1: It was the setup and the venue of like you're
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  Speaker 1: out there just there's no one and you're just like
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  Speaker 1: time trialing on your bike for like two and a
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  Speaker 1: half hours, and I was just like to say't it
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  Speaker 1: that's not my I don't I like the energy and
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  Speaker 1: like I love indoor track, Yeah, so high rocks is
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  Speaker 1: almost like an indoor track but with like you know,
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  Speaker 1: different activities. So I kind of checked a lot of
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  Speaker 1: boxes for me, and enough people had told me like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: I've tried it or you know, I'm into this and
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  Speaker 1: I think you'd be good at I think you should
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  Speaker 1: give it a try. And I was like all right,
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  Speaker 1: like some you know, the universe is pushing me in
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  Speaker 1: this way, like let me just try it out.
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  Speaker 4: So I meant the beginning of my little high Rocks journey.
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  Speaker 4: But what does it look like at the beginning, Like
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  Speaker 4: what does that involve for you?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? I well, I had to take I did an
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  Speaker 1: injection in my foot when I found out about the injury,
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  Speaker 1: like the old injury, I decided to try an injection
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  Speaker 1: of some eggs zomes, which is like a cell signaler.
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  Speaker 1: It basically tells your cells to go like sen send
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  Speaker 1: stem cells and go heal that area. Didn't really work,
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  Speaker 1: but I took I did that. I tried that and
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  Speaker 1: took eight weeks completely off no running cross training.
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  Speaker 2: This is when your foot was on the boot. Yes, okay,
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  Speaker 2: like in end of March. Gotcha.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, I've never taken this much
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  Speaker 1: time completely Like usually I'm injured and I'm in the
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  Speaker 1: pool and I'm on the bike and I'm on the
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  Speaker 1: start master and the elliptical and like just like no
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  Speaker 1: losing fitness and having that kind of really motivated to
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  Speaker 1: train cross train, you know, And I just didn't have
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  Speaker 1: it in me this time. I was like, I can't,
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  Speaker 1: I can't even think about getting in the pool.
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  Speaker 4: You desired to get on the bike.
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  Speaker 1: The most I could do was like do yoga or
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  Speaker 1: some like plates. So coming off of that eight weeks,
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  Speaker 1: I was the most out of shape I've ever been,
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  Speaker 1: and I just started doing like some light rowing.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, let me see about this row machine.
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  Speaker 4: Have you ever done rowing? Oh? Yeah, it's such a
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  Speaker 4: good workout. So I started doing that.
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  Speaker 1: And I've never done ski erg before, so I started
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  Speaker 1: doing a little bit of that and just kind of
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  Speaker 1: messing around the weight room. One of the girls on
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  Speaker 1: my team, Annie Rodenvels, is my weight training buddy, So
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  Speaker 1: twice a week she's lifting weights with a strength trainer
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  Speaker 1: and bolder named Aaron Carson, and I just joined them.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like for the social ass respect of it, for
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  Speaker 1: like my mental health, I need to be like doing something,
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  Speaker 1: So I'll strength train with them. A couple of times
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  Speaker 1: a week, but it's just like runner strength training. It's
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  Speaker 1: not for high rocks, but at least something. And then yeah,
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  Speaker 1: started building in like the row and the ski, and
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  Speaker 1: then I was able to start running again. So then
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  Speaker 1: I started doing I've done like three workouts where you
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  Speaker 1: do like run for three or two or three minutes,
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  Speaker 1: and then you do one of the exercises and then
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  Speaker 1: you like, I'm back and forth on the treadmill and
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  Speaker 1: doing the different exercises and I was like, oh wait,
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  Speaker 1: this is fun, Like it's really hard because I'm really
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  Speaker 1: out of shape. I'm like, oh shit, like this is
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  Speaker 1: really hard, and I'm out altitude because I'm in Boulder,
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  Speaker 1: so it's like fifty five hundred feet who it was challenging.
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  Speaker 1: And then a couple of weeks ago, I did a
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  Speaker 1: little sim with a friend of mine, Landy Marshaant is
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: a marathon er for Team Canada and she's been doing
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: some high rocks, so she sent she brought me to
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: her High Rocks gym and we did it as doubles
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: and it was just it's like an untimed thing. It's
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: not an official thing. You like, we started our own
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: like timers and stuff, but I have all the stations
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: set up, and I have a one k loop around
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: the parking lot that you do for the run, and
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: so we got to like go through it all and
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: kind of like practice like pretend and that was really fun.
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: So are you registered for high Rocks?
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: So I signed up for the Denver High Rocks, which
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: is in November.
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: Solo or doubles. I signed up solo.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: I was like, I kind of want to like try
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: one by myself and like see how it is, which
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: might have been a mistake.
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: I feel like maybe I should maybe I.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: Should start as doubles and like build my way into it.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: I just connected with Alyssa's world champion and she said
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: that she started with doubles and then kind of like
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: built it. I think your first one was a double
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: on or second one as a solo.
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: So I don't know. I signed up for solo your own.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: I might regret your own a little scary, don't be yes,
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: it's scary because it's unknown. And also there is so
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: much pointing to runners being really capable of excelling at
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: high rocks, because although you can be super strong, almost
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: easier to get strong than it is to get fast
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: at running and so you have this really stellar base
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: of endurance, which is why we saw someone like Alyssa
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: be so successful at World Championships. I got to see
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: her win in Stockholm and it was you were there.
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: It was so cool. So my first trip to Stockholm,
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: no way. Yeah, oh my god, I didn't realize you
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: were irl at the World Chace. I mean I was
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: not everywhere.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: To be clear, I was not there to compete, but
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: I did get to go as a guest of Red Bull,
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: and I also was sitting the kool aid.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: So now I like you.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: I only we can do double, Okay, I was gonna say,
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: because I'm not trying to do a.
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: S we can do doubles.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: I'm recruiting all my double partners. I'm like, I just
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: wanted to be this fun thing that's I don't know,
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: I feel like, but.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: Colleen, you cannot you cannot dangle the cherry in front
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: of my face.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: You can't be like, we should do double. Then you're like, but.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: I also have approached at least six to eight other
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: potential doubles partners.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: These people are like, yeah, yea, I'll do with you.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: And I have to like patch my bets here because
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: I'm in it. Well I'm not serious. They say yes
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: to me and then they're like I can't trust Like are.
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: You are you in?
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: No, I'm committed. Okay, perfect. So there there's a double, Well,
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: there's a doubles.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: There's a high Rocks in Paris that I'm actually really
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: enthusiastic about.
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: So is this the one in the train station? It's stunning.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: I saw this video on Instagram and I was like,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: you heard it here first?
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: That one. I want to do that one.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Colleen Quickley and I are doing double Paris Paris Doubles,
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: High Rocks Shake. So there's so much to double click
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: on from this entire monologue. One of the things that
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: I want to start with is you talking about your teammates.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: Obviously, over the last few years you building Maridia.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: It's been such a passion project for you, something that
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: you have been excited about since twenty twenty one. Now
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: it has come to life. How do you feel about
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: it being in this place and you coming to this
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: realization with where you're at now, how do you foresee
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: yourself interacting with the training group moving forward and what
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: feels good for you?
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's actually one thing that I felt like something
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: clicked into place with that too, where I always from
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: the beginning felt a little bit weird about being an
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: athlete on the team, like being a currently competing athlete
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: going to a SES trying to make teams still like trying.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: I was in racism, my teammates were in. But I'm
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: also in this leadership position where you know, I'm the
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: team captain or you know, the team manager, whatever you
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: want to call me is.
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: Fine by me.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: And I have, yeah, i have this like other role
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: of like trying to figure out how to tell the
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: stories and support the athletes and manage the whole team.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: But I'm also on the team, and there was always
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: like it felt a little bit awkward to me to
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: be able to try and do both of those things.
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and so I actually felt.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: Like when I realize like, oh, maybe it's time to
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: try something else and move on from the track world,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: it was like, oh, that actually, I think is good
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: for the team too. You know, I think it's good
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: for me and it's good for everyone for me to
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: have my own thing over here that I do and
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: the athletes are you know, I'm still a runner. I
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: still keep my identity as a runner. Which was really
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: important to me. But it's in a different way, and
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm not going to be competing against the girls,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: although I really would like to convince any and all
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: of them to do doubles with And there is a
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: relay version of high Rocks where you have four people
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: do a high I didn't know that existed. I just
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: recently found this out of four people in Relafe, four
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: people on Meridia.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: It's all together, it's all happening for okay, well, but
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: it works. It makes me feel really happy for you
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: that you do feel like holistically this is kind of
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: coming into alignment a better designation.
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: Totally.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I definitely, you know, I love what we've
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: built with Meridia, and the athletes we have on the
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: team right now are just incredible human beings that I
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: love being in partnership with and working with. And it
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: feels so like it just feels like we're in a
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: great spot with the with the athletes that we have,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: and so I don't want to, you know, I didn't
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: want this to have to be like, Okay, well, that
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: means like Mridia is over. And it was immediately clear
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: to me that it's the opposite of that it's like, oh,
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: this is actually what's good for the team and good
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: for me.
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: At the same time, the other thing to double click
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: on Boulder. Yeah there you are, yes, there, You've had
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: nothing going on over the past few years, so to
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: then throw this major move and then on top of
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: the move, a major renovation on your plate.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: How has that felt? How are you liking Bolder?
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: I feel like Boulder was there the whole time, and like,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: what was that? I was totally sleeping on her. I
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: don't know why I didn't realize that. It was just
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: I heard other people talking about it, this you know
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: place called Boulder, but I hadn't been until March I
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: think it was of twenty twenty five.
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: Kevin and I.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Landed there kind of late at night and we're at
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: a rental spot just probably like three three or four
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: blocks off Pearl Street, and woke up that next morning.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: My dog Six wakes me up in the morning, probably
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: six six thirty, her name is six, and she wakes
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: me up at like six or six thirty in the
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: morning by licking my face, and we were I was like, yeah,
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: up late the night before traveling, but she doesn't care.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: So we're up and I'm like all right, like let's
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: go walk around or whatever. And we walk through three
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: or four blocks down to Pearl Street and I would
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: immediately I was like, oh, like this feels like Abbot
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Kenney does in the morning at six thirty. That's where
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: we were based before, was in Venice Beach, and then
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: we're a walk off of ab McKinney, and the morning
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Abbert Kenny has this quiet there's only a couple of
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: coffee shops open, but there's a ton of people walking
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: around with their dogs. It just feels like kind of
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: quiet at six or six thirty in the morning, but
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: you feel this like potential energy of like later on today,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: you just know the street is going to be popping.
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And Pearl Street has the same thing. We're in
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: the morning. It's quiet.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Most of the stores are closed because it's like retail stuff,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: but people are out walking their dogs and there's three
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: or four coffee shops that are bustling and people are
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: getting moving and stuff, and you're just like, oh, this
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: is like I don't know, there's just this feeling to
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: it of like oh, this is gonna be like cool later,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: you know. And I felt that immediately on Pearl Street,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: and I was like, ooh, I like, I like it here.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: And then we started running and seeing like all the
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: trails and all the dirt roads and all the bike
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: paths and just like the infrastructure that's set up for
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: people who like to be outside. Yeah, which I immediately
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: was just super impressed with. And yeah, and then Kevin,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: my partner, found this seven thousand square foot nineteen oh
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: five historic mansion two blocks off of Pearl Street that
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: was being used as a commercial space for like fifty
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: plus years. It was on the market for almost three years.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: They couldn't find a buyer for it. And he just
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: was like he came, yeah, came to me with this
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: idea of like, hey, we should we should buy this
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: place and turn it back into residential And I was like,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: what they like, that's a huge project, and yeah, I've
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: just launched this team like five seconds ago. I'm pretty
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: like tunnel vision on figuring this puzzle out and stuff.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: But he had the vision for it, and so we
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: ended up going for it, and we live in the
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: house now and we are making plans to like completely
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: gut renovate it.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: It's gorgeous.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: The bones are incredible, but it's going to be like
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: a really big, really fun.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: Project that we're going to do together, and we are I.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Mean, I'm sure we want to get into YouTube, but
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: we also want to create a YouTube channel about like
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: renovating it and have that be kind of part of
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: this like next phase of you know, like life after.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: If I'm not running around and like going to practice
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: all the time, I can have other things in my
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: life that I can spend energy on. It's definitely, like
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: I will say, kind of Kevin's like he has the
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: vision for it, but I am a good worker and
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: I can execute on projects if given, if you know,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: given some direction.
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: So we're yeah, we're doing it together. It's you're doing
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: it really fun.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: It's as someone who for the last fifteen years of
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: her life has exclusively lived in rental apartments, I am
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: incapable of concepting what it would require to take out.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: A project like that.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: It's a lot.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: We also own the parking lot across the street from
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: the house. It's like a twelve car parking lot, which
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: is crazy. So yeah, there's a lot of details, Like,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: there's so many. Last week Kevin was like, oh, there's
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: someone coming to do backflow testing.
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: At the house and I was like, what is that?
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what is backflow testing?
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Oh, he's like, it has to be done every year.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Apparently if you don't get it done, you get a fine.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: And they have it's like independent companies that come over
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: and they make sure that your water, your sewage water
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: is not coming back up.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: Oh well, good, sounds important.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is like when you're younger and like maybe,
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm very lucky that I have a great
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: relationship with my father, who was the one that told
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: me that I needed to get my car like emissions tested.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: But like if you don't just so much you have
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: someone to tell you these things, Yeah, what would you do?
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: Totally?
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I ended up having to like switch my plates
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: some register my car in Colorado after being in Arizona,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: and I just did it, even though we've been there
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: for like a while, but I just keep putting it off.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: I lost my I.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Couldn't find my title for the car, and then we
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: had to switch the car insurance are like all the
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: paperwork things. And then I get there and actually someone
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: had had warned me, but you're supposed to change your
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: plates within ninety days of moving to the otherwise you
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: get a twenty five dollars a month feet every month
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: up to the cap it at one hundred dollars. Well
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: this no, no, I already switched it over and they
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: cappened one hundred dollars.
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: So the woman was like I was doing the things.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: She's like, there's your you know you're gonna get a
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: hundred dollars fine for not having And I was like, girl,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: take my money, like yeah, it's been way.
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: Over ninety days. It's one hundred dollars. I'm gonna be fine. Yeah,
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: take it.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: But there's certain things that fall through the cracks like
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: that for sure, And always we're learning new things about
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: like for example, last weekend was going to clean the
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: front porch of the house.
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: Just I left and he was like, I'm gonna, like,
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: you know, power wash it.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but just with the hose. Like we have a
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: pretty strong hose, so we don't have a power washer.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: But he's like, I'm just gonna, like, you know, it's
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: like it gets dirty, there's like sticky stuff wherever.
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: I'm just gonna wash off. I'm like, okay, well I leave,
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: I come back.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: This man has started he basically he was like I
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: started doing that, but there was grime in between the
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: you know, porch is over one hundred years old, so
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: he's like, there's grime in between the boards. Yeah, And
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: so he went downstairs and he got this attachment for
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: the drill that's basically like metal. It's like these little
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: teeny tiny metal skewers that spin around, and it's used
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: for We used it for refinishing a butcher, massive thousand
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: pound butcher block that we put in the kitchen. Okay,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: so we still had that in the basement. So we
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: went downstairs and got that and takes that to the
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: front porch. Oh and obviously the paint is coming off,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: and he realizes the gray paint. Underneath the gray paint,
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: there's a pair of a lair of white paint. And
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: he's like, oh interesting. So he I get back. He
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: is stripping off the gray paint and actually waiting for
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: it to dry because he wants to stand off the
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: white paint and see what the boards look like underneath
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: the white paint. And I'm like, oh, now we're redoing
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: the front part. Okay, I thought we were just cleaning
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: the front port. So that unfortunately became a bit of
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: a bit of a tiff. But things like that are
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: constantly happening in the house where you're like, oh my god,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: this was supposed to be like a little thing, like
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: a little Saturday afternoon and now it's like, now we
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: have another project on our hands, so you have to
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: commit to some stuff like that that you just yeah,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: you won't get these kind of adventures in a rental
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: property in New York City.
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: It's just so different. World comes to do it for you.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: I mean, I would personally be very excited to follow
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: this on YouTube.
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, good, good good.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah. My problem is I think I'm gonna need to
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: edit all of it. Oh that's yeah, kind of time consuming.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: But okay, so while we're here, yeah, YouTube, I'm struggling with,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: like what do people want on YouTube? Because do they
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: want like, for example, Ali Ostrander crushes on YouTube. Lauren
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Gregory just started on YouTube recently, crushing very like raw
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: like Lauren Gregory edits on iMovie.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like I feel like movie
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: for the record is not very intuitive respect to the
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: people that that work on that, but I try using.
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: It and I would do not have fressed all time. Yeah,
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: it's so frustrated, but yeah, I mean it. You know,
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: she does it.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: So in my mind, it was like, I really wanted
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: our YouTube to be like highly like high quality produce,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: really well produced, like these beautiful stories and stuff, and
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: so far it feels like that's not what people want.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: So I think that you're answering your own question, right,
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: Like you're going to these channels that aren't really reinventing
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: the wheel. It's mostly stream of consciousness. They probably have
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: one or two cameras they use, one of them being
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: an iPhone and one of them being a handheld, right,
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: And that's.
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: What they're creating.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: And I think that that seems to be for the
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: most part, unless we're talking about someone like a mister Beast,
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: Like the quality excitement of YouTube is you're getting so
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: much raw, and I think that also translates to the
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: creators and people that most people want to follow.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: People want to keep up with you because they can
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: relate to you. They don't want to keep up with
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: people that live a quote unquote perfect life that's not
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: very realistic. Yeah, So it's like for me right now
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: on YouTube, the only thing that's going live is the
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: Friday segment, which I call five minute Friday. I'm still
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: working on like the production things that have to go
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: into getting the Tuesday episodes up on the up on
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: the platform. But I'm just yap into a microphone for
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: twelve minutes and I'm like, cool, have a good weekend,
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Like that's that's it. Yeah, And for me, well for me,
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: that's doable, right because I'm not editing that, Like I
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: am just yap in and then I'm answering a listener
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: question and then throwing on an intro and an outro
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: and say, see you lead published, right, So I am
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: not one to give YouTube advice. However, I too, am
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: curious about what it is that makes people stick, and
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: I think that it's kind of for me similar to
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: when I started podcasting. When I started podcasting, I wasn't
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: listening yet to a ton of podcasts, just like I'm
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: not a huge consumer of YouTube. I mean, but similar
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: to when someone says I want to write a book
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: or I want to be an author, the first question
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: you ask yourself is are you writing? And if you're
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: not writing, then how can you expect to be someone
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: who becomes an author? Well, if I'm not watching YouTube,
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: how can I expect to understand or really do much
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: more with YouTube.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: So I'm you know, I'm in the weeds.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: I know I'm getting into it tune, I'm like seeing,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: I'm like watching more YouTube because I think for so
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: long I was really only focused on Instagram, only consuming
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Instagram and only posting Instagram yep.
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: And I personally got really burned out on Instagram.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Like I just am so sick of the fifteen second
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: just like bullshit content on Instagram. I'm just sorry, like
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: the quick stuff, My god, Like what are we doing?
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Like you can't share anything of value in ten seconds?
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Like you just I need time to be able to
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: like tell the stories and especially with the team, to
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: introduce the athletes to an audience and have them care
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: that Gracie Hide made the mile World Championship team for
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: tem USA and the five k team for Team USA
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: and she's never even made a team before and now
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: she gets to choose which event she wants to do
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: with the World Championships, Like this is amazing. But if
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: they don't know Gracy Hide and what they've been through,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: if they don't know Gracy Hide actually quit the sport
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: of running to three years ago because she was dealing
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: with an eating disorder so severe that she couldn't like
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: she really couldn't run at all, and she completely quit
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: the sport moved to Almosa, Colorado to chase a boyfriend
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: that she had been dating at the time. Was working
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: at like a like an LA Fitness, like a it
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: wasn't LA Fitness, but was like A Fitness or whatever. Yeah,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: one of those like as an instructor and like doing
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: like workout, you know, workouts at the gym, like completely
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: not a runner, and like now she's going to Worlds
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: for Tmusa and Copenhagen in September. But if you don't
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: know all that stuff, like why would you care about
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: the fifteen second bits saying like I'm going to Worlds,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: you know, and I need more time to like have
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: people understand that. So then yeah, we were like, okay,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: we got to do YouTube because I figured that out
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: like early on in my own career of like I
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: just trded telling people everything about my life. Yeah, and
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: then they thought they knew me, and then they gave
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: a shit about if I was doing well, and when
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: I wasn't doing well, they also cared about that. And
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: so I'm trying to figure out how to do that
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: with these women, and I think the only way is
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: to give more time and space to like tell their
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: stories and have them tell Like I'm really adamant that
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: it's giving them the support they need, but it's they
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: have to tell their own story in their own words, right,
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: they have to be given the microphone to do that.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: I usually wait until the end of the show to
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: go in this direction, but I actually think that I
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: want to have a bit more of a conversation about it.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: So when you have people that are coming to your
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: socials or coming to get to know you, what is
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: it that you want them to see?
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: Who is it that you want to meet them with?
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah? For myself personally, no, no, no, for you Yeah.
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: I mean I don't know. I think it changes.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: When I was younger, I definitely wanted more like I
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: was the Team USA, like steeple chase, like Olympic runner,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: and I had more of a strong identity and like
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: the performance side and what I was doing athletically. And
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: I feel that I have let that like kind of
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: naturally shift into like Okay, yeah, like that was an
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: amazing time of my life, but like it's not really
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: where I am now, and I need to kind of
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: be able to let that go in order to connect
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: with Like, I think the people who followed me through
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: that time, they're also growing and changing, right, so like
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: allowing us all to evolve. So I think now it's
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: more about like I'm kind of this, Like I don't
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: know if you want to just say, like multi sport athlete,
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: but I like, I love so many I love running.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: It's still my favorite way to move my body. But
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: I do so many other things that are not running.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: And I've also really let the other things in my
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: life that aren't athletic at all creep into who I
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: am and how I show up as well. Really just
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: from a point of like this is genuinely what I like.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: I love doing craft projects, I love being artistic, and
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: these are genuinely things that I like that I don't
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: want to have to like, you know, hide or like
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: not show because.
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: Oh but I'm the Olympic steeple chaser.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: So it's a little bit more confusing because, yeah, I
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: think when you come to my page, you're like, there's
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: a lot going on, Like I have a lot of
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: different things happening, and maybe a social media marketing professional
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: would tell me, like, you have too much going on
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: you have to like narrow it down.
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: But maybe that does hurt me, but I'm like, I can't.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: Like That's just I have a lot of different interests
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: and like a lot of different things happening, and I
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: want to be able to like show all of them because.
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: I feel like that's a more genuine, like portrayal of
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: who I am.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: I feel like it's also probably been interesting for you
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: as you navigate stepping into your own beyond that original chapter.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: You've had to have conversations with brands individuals that maybe
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: wanted you to do something or wanted you to be
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: a certain something for them, and that doesn't align with
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: who you are anymore.
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: And I mean I've had a lot of sponsors that
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: have stayed on for a long time, which is like
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: I had, So I had to get over a lot
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: of like imposter syndrome more just like feeling like, you know,
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: letting down brands that I thought they signed me to
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: be the Olympic Steeples Taste girl that I was at
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: the beginning, and then when I wasn't making teams anymore,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: like even with lou Lemon when I signed with them
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one, I had never not made the team.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: I've made the team every year, even in an off
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: year when we only had Indoor Worlds, I mean the
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: indoor Worlds team. Like I was always making the team,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: and then I signed with loul Lemon, I was going through,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: you know, a lot of changes and like having a
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: hard time with started like really struggling with injury, and
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: then didn't make a team at all. Like ever since
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: I signed with Lulam and I've never made the team,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: which is personally really tough. But it's also I feel
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: like I've always felt like a little bad that, you know,
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: I've I want to be able to do that with
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: them supporting me, because they've been such a great supporter
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: of me. Yeah, and yet I can't figure out the
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: hell thing to be able to get me to the
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: level that I want to be in and I know
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: they would support me to be but truly, like they're
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: still there. You know, we just signed a new contract
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: through twenty twenty eight, and you know they know that
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: the like land of me going to the Olympics in
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight is pretty slim, but there's so much
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: that we can do outside of that, even like Whoop
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: has been with me for six years. We actually just
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: ended our relationship for relationship this summer. We're like, you know,
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: I think they felt kind of bad about rolling me off,
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: and I was like, guys, it's been six years, Like right,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: that's not that's amazing, Like, thank you so much for
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: all your support, and that.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: Is a really long time, especially like in today's economy,
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: and I hate to say like creator economy, but especially
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: when every day we are inundated with new people.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: And new content.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: To have the opportunity to build such a special relationship
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: with a sponsor, I think it speaks to the type
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: of woman that you are. It's bigger than the deliverables.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: And with the right relationships, you will know that and
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: you will feel sure in that absolutely.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean I have to like shout out
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: like I just signed with Zico last year. I signed
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: with Superfeet last year. Sonya Richard's Ross and me are
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: the Superfeet Ambassadors.
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: I'm finally getting Sonya on the pod. Oh good jobs.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: It's so funny her and down I got like one.
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: I just had Don on rushing.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: I was like, can we get around the Boss Nelson?
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: It was it was excellent and it's just it's so
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: funny because the both of them came to me and
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: they were like, I have this one date at this
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: one time.
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: I was like, well, lucky for you, take it. I
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: will take it. Yeah, They're so excited, busy, busy ladies.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: But I'm like, how am I an ambassador with Sonya
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Richard's ross for like a brand like super Feet, Like
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: that's amazing, And so I keep trying to remind myself,
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: like I can't. I do have more to offer, and
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: I you know, I think it's probably hard for someone
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: who's a Midwesterner and a woman to like be like,
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: you know, I can. I can stand here and be
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: like I can do a good job for this brand,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: even if I'm not on Team USA. I think it's
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: easier for men, for some reason, to like be like, yeah,
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: I deserve, and you know, maybe for someone who is
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: like a New Yorker have the attitude of like I deserve.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: But I feel like coming from the Midwest, I always
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: deal with like I have to earn and like I
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: have to do better, and probably a woman thing too.
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: But I think it's in the way that you speak.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: To yourself also, like you sound as though you're getting
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: to this place now where you're really owning so much
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: of the value that you have knowing and believing and
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: standing firm and that it goes so far beyond the
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: fact that you are an olymp Yeah.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I talk like that with the girls on
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: my team or even women this weekend that I've spoken
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: to who aren't on my team, and we get and
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: I find myself in these conversations all the time, talking
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: to athletes about their worth and like their brand and
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: empowering them that like, to be honest, like you don't
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: need that old white guy agent who's like barely answering
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: your emails and not getting you what like deals that
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: you deserve, Like you can do it without him.
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: You can do it on your own, you know.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: I tell I'm always talking to my girls about like
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: owning their their power with you know, a brand. Might
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: you know, DM them and want to send them a
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: free pair of sunglasses and then ask them to post
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: about it. I'm like, girl, you do not need to
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: post about a free pair of sunglass.
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: It's like if you want to, that's fine.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: If you want to put on your fas page and
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: like post the link and get some you know whatever,
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: but like a one hundred dollars pair of sunglasses does
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: not mean that you owe them a post on your
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: social media page. You know. Like we're always having these
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: kinds of conversations, and I think that helps me too,
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Like I got to listen to my own advice and like,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: you know, walk the walk as well. But it can
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: be fun to like have those kinds of conversations with
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: athletes and help them realize, like you know, they what
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: kind of power that they do have.
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: What have you learned being an advocate for yourself?
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: I mean it's a good question. I used to So
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: when I first went pro, I did have an agent
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: and didn't work out very well. I didn't feel like
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: he did a good job of seeing me outside. Like
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: basically he was like, okay, so I got you issue
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: contract with Nike, like I'm gonna take fifteen percent of
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: that and like book your flights.
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: And I was like okay, like you know what else
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: can we do?
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: And I felt like he was always of this mindset
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: of like, if you go at the Olympics, you'll get
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: like more deals. And then I went to the Olympics
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, where are my deals? And
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: he was like, if you get a medal, we can
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: get you deals. And I was like wait what, like
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: why are you moving the carrot? And like I modeled
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: for four years in high school and I'd like, I'm
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: like pretty good on camera. So I was just like
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: I should I'm marketable, like we should be I should
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: be getting deals, Like why are we not hustling, you know?
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: And so yeah, we parted ways and I just started
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: doing it for myself and like signed Hype Race, which
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: lasted for like three years. I signed Vital Proteins, which
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: lasted for like three or four years, and we just
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: started doing you know, my fans. Kevin and I start
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: doing our own thing. And it wasn't like any one
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: moment where I was like, oh okay, like I can
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: do this now. It was like just practicing, like practicing
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: sending emails, you know, and having Kevin there to like
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: proofread my email and like maybe help me beef it
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: up a little bit if I was like being too
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: gentle or something. And also like I don't know, realizing
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: that maybe they'll just say no. Like I've been in
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: so many like conversations with different brands where they make
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: an offer, I tell them my rates are because now
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: I have like rates, so I can be like, yeah,
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: these are my rates, and if they come back and
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: they'll be like, okay, so we want to do like
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: one post, but we want to do it at your
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: like six month rate. And I just come back and
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: I say, so, I'm so sorry that you know it
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: doesn't align with like where your budget is right now.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: And I might be able to offer them something like
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: this is what your budget is, like this is what
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: I can do for that amount, but if this is
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: what you really need, this is what that costs, and
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: no hard feelings. There's like never any hard feelings if
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: that doesn't work out with what your needs are. I
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: also have a bunch of friends that I can recommend
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: that are probably more in that price range. I'm happy
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: to pass on information for some other athletes that I
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: think would be great to work with that might be
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: in your price range. And sometimes that's the case, it's
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: like doesn't work out. But oftentimes they come back and
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: they're like okay, yeah, Like I'm like, okay, why did
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: you Yeah, why did you try and low molve me
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: the first time? But it's like you just have to
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: do a couple of those like I feel like conversations
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: before you're like, oh, like this is isn't that scary?
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: This isn't that bad.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: And the worst that they could say is like walk away,
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: and there's more deals to be had, So yeah, it
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: doesn't not every single deal has to work out, you know.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: When I'm hearing just knowing that it's okay to own
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: your no and that the right things will stick, the
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: right things will be there, and that ninety nine point
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: nine percent of the time when you hear a know,
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: you just are exactly where you started, and exactly where
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: you started probably isn't that bad.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, And I always believe that, Like, even with the
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: Whoop thing, I was like, you, guys, I've had such
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: a great relationship working with you. I've every single person
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: I've interacted with on your team has been lovely. I
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: feel like you've done a great job of supporting me. No.
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they set me flowers, which was so nice.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: I was like, what brand like, it's like, we don't
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: want to work with you anymore, floy how a nice?
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: So nice? And I was like, this is going to
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: open me up for something else that I couldn't have
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: done with Whoop, because like Whoop is doing like blood
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: work stuff. Now they are expanding so much it you know,
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: it kind of limits different partnerships I could do in
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: these different categories, even like with watches, you know, any
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: thing on my wrist. And so I'm like, this was
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: an amazing opportunity and now, yeah, you know, hopefully that
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: like opens a door to the next thing for the
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: next six years that I don't know what it is yet.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: But you have to have some kind of like trust
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: that like that's the world is just gonna like look
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: out for you as long as you're doing a good job.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: I think that's part of it, is like you have
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: to feel really confident that what you're doing, the service
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: that you're providing, the way that you're showing up you
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: can be really proud of and that you have no
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: like if I felt like I wasn't doing a good
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: job in all those areas, I probably be really nervous
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: about figuring out how to replace that income because I
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: don't really know how I'm going to market myself. But
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I feel like I do a great
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: job as an ambassador for all my partners, and I
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: always genuinely believe in everything that I'm doing. And so yeah,
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: I'm like, the next thing will will come around, and
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: you have to like be confident in that all you can.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: Do is the best you can with what you have
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: and know what your intentions are.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: And when you stand firm and your intention then you
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: can accept whatever will happen next. And so that sounds
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: to be exactly where it is that you are in
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: what's happening. I also really appreciated the dialogue that you
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: mentioned that you're having with your teammates.
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: Right, because that in itself is so powerful.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: I bet there are so many people that want to
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: be a part of a dialogue like that that maybe
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: haven't worked with a manager as an athlete or don't have.
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: The experiences that you have.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: You have such a foundational knowledge base that you can
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: bring to the table that can be helpful to so
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: many people.
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: I actually I've been sitting on this idea for a
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: podcast for so long. I've even talked to you about
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: it before, about this topic, like I want to be
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: able to talk about the business of women's sports, like
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: the numbers, business marketing side of women's sports. I think
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of like podcasts that talk about more
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: about the men's side of that, and yeah, for some reason,
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: there's still not an off of this conversation about the
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: business of women's sports, like women's sports not being something
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: that's a charity that you know is seen as like, oh,
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: it's this like cute little thing, but like it's yeah,
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: it is a business and people are spending money on
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: it and fans are spending money on it, and just
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: being able to yeah, have that be more of a
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: conversation and more empowering for anyone from athletes to agents
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: to all the support people who are involved in women's
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: sports in any.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: Way aside from the house renovation. What else are you
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: excited about right now?
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: Gosh, mostly just like everything having to do with the team.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go to Copenhagen for Worlds in September.
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: You told me that you've never been.
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: I have racks for you.
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: I'm so bummed.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: I've heard it's an amazing city and yeah, fifty percent
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: of our team is competing there, so I was like,
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: I gotta, I gotta make my way. I'm going to
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: London September fourth and fifth for the Like the Wind
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: Magazine Live event. They're hosting their first everts A Like
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: the Wind Magazine is a British based cord print magazine
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: about the culture side of running. It's you know, it's
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: a running magazine, but it's more about, like less about
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: results and more about like cultural topics around running. And
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: I've been involved with them for a while and they're yeah,
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: they're doing a live event in London, so she'll be
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: so fun. So they asked me to fly out there
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: for that, and I was like, boom, that's my ticket
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: to Europe. I'm gonna mess around in Europe for a
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks and then I'm gonna go to Copenhagen
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: for Worlds. I me and see and you'll be in
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: the half marathon at her first World Championships ever, and
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: Grace you will be in the in the road mile
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: and her first World Championships and Tmusa ever.
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: So that would be really fun.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: And then we have Courtney Coppingers, our trail athlete, and
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: she's bopping around in Switzerland and at UTMB and all
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: the trail scene all summer too, so I might be
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: able to link up with her while I'm out there
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: as well.
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: Have you been to Shamani before?
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: I have not, And Courtney was trying to get me
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: to go to UTMB, and I was like, Oh, that's
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: like gonna be over a month away from home. That's
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: a long time.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: But twenty twenty seven UTMB is on my I'm like, Tar,
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: I got to be out there next year. I've heard
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: just so many incredible things about Yeah, that event, it's
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: it's absolutely stunning. I've been twice now. For those that
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: don't know about UTMB, the event in SHAWMNI is kind
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: of the finale. You can think of it as the
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: World Series of Trail Racing exactly, and so it has
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: really grown in popularity over the last handful of years,
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: not necessarily in that it wasn't popular among athletes, but
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: it has grown in popularity with its distribution of content,
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: people understanding what it is, more eyes on it, more
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: brand involvement, and so it's really become a really fun
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: hub within the running world in the summer. Yeah, I
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: mean trail running in general, you could say that about
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: trail running as a whole has just like they were
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: always the trail runner source there doing their thing and
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: enjoying it, and they knew how amazing it was. And
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: in the past couple of years, yeah, more a broader
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: you know, swath of people are understanding the magic of
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: like being out on the trails. Myself included Kevin and
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: I just did our first race Broken Arrow.
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: Did you see his real.
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: Colleen's husband? But yeah, okay Colleens. I'm just obsessed with
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: Kevin colleens fiance.
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: Like he's not.
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: Necessarily a runner and certainly not a content creator, and
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: the way that he got into creating content around this
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: event was really endearing.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: It was the whole thing was actually really cool. I
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: kind of, you know, I was gonna go out to
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: support Courtney. She was doing the Ascent Race on Friday,
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: which is a three point six mile straight uphill. It's
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: like three thousand feet of vert. You're just going straight
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: up a mountain.
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: It was brutal.
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: So that was on Friday, and then Saturday was her
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: off day, which was the eleven K, which is what
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: we did, and then she did the twenty three k
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: like classic up and down race. I think that was
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know, another three thousand feet of her or
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: something over twenty three k on Sunday, So we were
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: I was just there to really I just went to
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: support Corney.
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: I was not going to race. I had no intentions
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: of racing. I didn't even know.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: I thought you, I didn't know that you could sign
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: up like last minute like that. But then one of
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: the other people that we were staying with we had
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: this big airbnb with like all Courtney's friends, and someone
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: else signed up for the Ascent race.
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: On the day of Oh dear, yeah, morning up. And
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: I was like, oh, you can do that.
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: What a masochist, I know, and that.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: Didn't have a good time. And then I found out
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: that there was an eleven K and I was like,
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: eleven K. I'm on my comeback journey from running. I've
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: run like five and a half miles with you know,
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: with my teammates. Eleven K was like six point I
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: think it was like six point two or something. I
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: was like, I could do that. I could stretch to
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: six point two. But it was like, you know, also
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: up a mountain, like I think I could do I've
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: been doing a little trail running with Courtney and just
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: like she's taking me on like greens, you know, like
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: chill trail runs.
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: Was like, I think I could do that.
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, just as a novice in the trail running
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: is green like blue like diamond skiing Oh, I didn't know.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know if this is like a broad thing,
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: it's how Courtney talks about it. I could just be
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: like a Corney Coppinger thing.
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: There are trail runners listening to this podcast. You're like, Emily,
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: you already embarrassment that you believe you know, that's what
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: I'm saying. I was like, I don't know, people know
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: what I mean.
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: Right, wait till the indro and I'm like, so we
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: talk about greens and they don't exist.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how Courtney talks about like greens and blues
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: and clacks and stuff, and so she's been like easing
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: me into it anyway. So I was like, oh, I
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: think I could do that. And so then I the
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: night before I looked at Kevin. I was like, do
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: you want to do a trail race part? Do you
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: want to do the eleven k? And he just like
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: thought for like two point five seconds, and then he
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: was just like sure. And then I was like, oh no,
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: I mean he just you're at altitude. Yeah, runs for
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: his mental health and he runs to clear his mind.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: So I was a little bit like, Oh, he's gonna
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: hate me after this. Yeah, I've dragged him to like
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: some ten k's before and stuff on the road, and
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: he doesn't typically historically have a lot of fun with it,
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: so I was like, oh, no, he's gonna hate me.
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: And then he loved it. Oh love that for Kevin.
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: We we had a blast.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: And so yeah, he took videos that were meant to
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: just be like for our friend group, Like he was
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: just you know, saying like, oh, look at the what
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: Colleen's roped me into. I'm doing good, you know, I
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: loving K trail race on a Saturday, like, you know,
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: be grateful you all have kids, because when you don't
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: have kids, you have to do stuff like this. And
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: then he showed me the videos and I was like, wait,
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: this would be a really funny reel. Can I like
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: edit this into a reel for you? And he was
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: like sure, And then we had to all the whole
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: house had to bully him into actually posting it on
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: his Instagram.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: So proud, yeah, so proud of you both were doing
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: the race. It was so fun for sharing the content.
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: It was so fun. We're like, wait, a retrail running
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: people now.
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: I think it's just indicative and also really cool to
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: see what's coming down the pipe for you. You're really
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: on this journey now of following the joy of doing
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: the things that make you feel happy, that make you
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: feel good in your body. So going down that avenue
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: when you think right now about who it is that
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: you're becoming, when you look in the mirror, what is
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: it that you're seeing looking back at you.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this is probably a weird tie into seaweez,
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: But I want to be able to like really my
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: goals for running and like myself and you know, fitness
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: or like my athletic goals right now really just have
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: to do with being able to say yes to things
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: I've had to say no so much for so many years,
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: Like even like no to friends' weddings and no to
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: vacations and no to fun runs with like at community events,
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: because it's like I have to prioritize I have this workout,
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: I have this training schedule.
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: I have to like protect myself.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: I have to you know, protect my energy and protect
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: my legs and like, you know, all these things that
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: I have to kind of avoid in order to do
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: something really special and like really big. And there's that's
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: an amazing way to actually live. And I think there's
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that but I think I got to
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: the point where I'm like, oh, I'm excited to be
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: able to say yes to those things that I've you know,
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: been kind of missing out on. So like, my best
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: friend from Portland's going to Mexico with her family that
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: go every year. She's got three kids now, and they
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: usually say it's in April, and I usually say no
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: because I'm training. And this year I was in a
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: boot and I was like, oh, I get to go
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: to Mexico with Brooke and Pete and the all their kids.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: Like there's three kids that are our god children. And
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: just being able to like say yes to something like
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: that is really meaningful. And then say yes to something
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: like you know, lou Lemon's like, Hey, we're bringing back
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: Seaweeds and it's a half marathon in Vancouver that's going
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: to be a party with a DJ and music and
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: it's like a festival, running event all weekend. And I'm like, yeah,
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: that sounds so fun. I am so down And they're
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: like can you paste the eight minute group? And I'm
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: like hell, yeah, Like I don't you know.
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: I don't know, maybe I'll run it with you.
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: You should Yeah, No, I think I four contacts.
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: I am already running seaweeds just like I was like,
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: let me, you're no, I am, I'm going and I
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: actually i'm I have my final twenty to do in
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: total that day.
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: Oh amazing. So I war them up and cool down.
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: With warm up, cool down, I mean some some party miles,
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: some party miles after the fact.
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: But what are you training for? Marathon? So it's at
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: the end of August.
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, so I have twenty two this week and
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: then next week is seaweeds. But maybe being in the
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: eight minute group sounds like a nice thing for me. Perfect,
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: Oh dear, that's just stuff like that.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: That's like I want to be able to do that
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: without worrying, like and just the normal. Honestly, Like, it's
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: been so long since I've been to a point where
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: someone like a friend can be like, hey, do you
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: want to like go run tomorrow, like I have eight
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: miles or I'm running run for an hour?
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: Do you want to come? And for so long I've
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: been like, I don't know if my foot is going
• 56:41
  Speaker 4: to be cry for that.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: I want to say yes, and I want to catch
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: up with you and go for a run and get
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: coffee after. But there's that anxiety about like and can
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: I do that? And I'm like getting back to a
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: point where I can walk the dogs without pain, you know,
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: go for a run with my friends, say yes to
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: a half marathon in Vancouver that sounds like a party,
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: Like I just want to, you know, get back to
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: that place, and and then say yes to like doing
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: doubles with Alyssa and going to high rocks, you know,
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: races and competing with other people from the running community
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: who are dabbling in this new sport. You know, like
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: say saying yes to a lot of new fun adventures
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: that just sound like that sounds fun.
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: Why don't I do that?
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: And then see where that takes me In terms of
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: I've always felt like the way I've been able to
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: connect the best with people in my community or when
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: I'm doing stuff that you know, feels like that then
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: I end up having fun, but also like meeting people
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: that I love those moments of you know, making connection
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: with someone who comes and says high and like tells
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: me about their injury journey, and like, you know, if
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: we can connect on something meaningful like that, that's always
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: it's just like kind of the best feeling, do you.
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: Feel now like you're in a place where you're okay
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: being that person. And what I mean by that is
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: that I've been injured too, yes.
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: Because that is how people come up to you very often,
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: more often than not.
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: It's so funny.
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: I was chatting with coach Bennett the other day and
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: he's like, you know what people tell me nine times
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: out of ten when they meet me. And I'm like what.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: He's like that I suck itt running. That's what they
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: say to him. They come up to him and they're like,
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: I suck it running. It's so good to meet you.
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: And so I feel like people come up to you
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: and they're like, oh my god.
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: Colleen quickly. I've also been in it.
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: Literally, yeah, how do you know that? That is exactly
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: what they said. I mean, it happened to me multiple
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: times yesterday. But it is really meaningful because I've had
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: people come up and say that to me and start crying,
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: you know, like they're like, they feel like this connection
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: to me because of something hard that we've both been
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: through that they feel like not everyone understands, you know.
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: They're like they can come tell me that and then
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: feel like and the way that I look at them
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: and their eye am like I see you, like I
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: get it, and they they'll get emotional because I think
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: they feel like, yeah, they feel lonely, you know, they
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: feel like not everyone understands that if they've been through
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: something like that, and they feel like it isolates them
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: from a lot of their community. And so as hard
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: as that is to be, like, it's emotionally kind of
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: draining because I feel like I have to, like you know,
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: I like kind of give myself of them.
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: But it does it also helps me.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: It also helps me feel like less disconnected myself, and
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: it helps give me purpose in some of the like
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: what the hell am I doing out here moments, I'm like, okay,
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: that like it helps me like remind me that it
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: is helpful. It is meaningful, like there is like value
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: and sharing those things and the value and like you know,
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: continuing on even when I like just want to, yeah,
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: stop doing all of it, stop doing the things that
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: talking about it like disappear, I'm like, wait, no, I
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: have to like, yeah.
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: Keep going, keep going. There's power in the perspective and
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: if anybody knows that, that's you. And to be able
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: to connect in that way with so many people who
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: see you as such a again, really of strength is
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: a really it's a really special opportunity.
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: Ye, well, they're going to see me as a more
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: beacon of strength that I'm out there doing high rocks
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: and I start getting.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: Paris twenty twenty seven, everyone, Paris twenty twenty seven and strength.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: Before I let you go today, right now, you have
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: an opportunity to give yourself a piece of advice. Let's
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: reflect back on when you finally got the imaging of
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: your foot that told you that you could have some
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: clarity on what's really going on here after so long
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  Speaker 2: knowing what you know?
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  Speaker 3: Now, what advice would you give yourself during that hurdle moment?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I have wondered, like why did I need that image?
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  Speaker 1: Like I knew something was wrong with my foot, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like I shouldn't have needed to wait for the image
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  Speaker 1: to tell me what I already knew and be able
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  Speaker 1: to like act accordingly. And I wonder how much time
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  Speaker 1: and you know, kind of angst and just distress I
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  Speaker 1: might have been able to save myself if I was
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  Speaker 1: able to own my own like inner, knowing a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more and not needing that external validation to you
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  Speaker 1: know kind of if I want, If that's what I
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  Speaker 1: needed to be able to move on, could I have
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  Speaker 1: allowed myself to move on, like I don't know, a
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  Speaker 1: couple of years ago.
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  Speaker 4: Everything happens for a reason.
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  Speaker 1: If I moved on a couple years ago, I wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: have started ridia that, you know, Like, I don't have
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  Speaker 1: necessarily any regrets about it, but I do think it's
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  Speaker 1: a good lesson. I think that a lot of us do,
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  Speaker 1: myself included is that we doubt that undernoing and we
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  Speaker 1: like need someone else to tell us or to like
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  Speaker 1: validate it. And yeah, if you believe it to be
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  Speaker 1: true and you feel like you know something, like own
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  Speaker 1: it and act accordingly.
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  Speaker 3: Trust your gut. Yeah, yeah, Collin Quickly. Always such a
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  Speaker 3: joy to have you.
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  Speaker 4: That's so good to be studio and you're in your
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  Speaker 4: personal studio too. The last time we spoke was not here.
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  Speaker 2: So in the studio well, and for those that aren't
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  Speaker 2: following along with you just yet gives the deeds?
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  Speaker 3: How do they find you?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Well, personally, I'm Steeple Squigs on Instagram. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: I'll ever change my Instagram handle to high rocks or
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  Speaker 1: anything like that. Steeple Squigs on Instagram. I also have
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  Speaker 1: my own personal YouTube channel. I posted a thirty one
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  Speaker 1: minute video about going to broke an arrow I just had.
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  Speaker 1: I did a GoPro all weekend and I just couldn't
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  Speaker 1: I cut stuff and I couldn't cut it down to
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  Speaker 1: any less than thirty one minutes because it was just
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  Speaker 1: there was was such a fun weekend. So I was like,
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  Speaker 1: it's a marathon video. You can skip to sections. I
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  Speaker 1: can't wait to watch arts that you want. But I
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  Speaker 1: do have a YouTube channel as well. And then the
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  Speaker 1: team is Meridia, so m e er Idia. It comes
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: from the word meridian, which is a definition of a
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  Speaker 1: high point, a peak, an apex, the top of something.
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  Speaker 4: Meridia.
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  Speaker 1: We cut off the end to make it sound more feminine.
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  Speaker 1: Meridia sounds like it could be a feminine word and
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: a love language. It also sounds like it could be
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  Speaker 1: the plural form of meridian. If you have many high
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  Speaker 1: points or peaks in your athletic career, you might have meridia.
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  Speaker 1: And so it's a made up word, but that's where
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  Speaker 1: it comes from. And we are at Meridia at Ta
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  Speaker 1: Meridia on Instagram and YouTube. We also have a low
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  Speaker 1: key TikTok team also team We're Team Meridia Everywhere and
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  Speaker 1: we have a substack as well, so we do Meridia
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  Speaker 1: Mondays every Monday. We have a newsletter comes in your
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: inbox and we share like if we have races coming up,
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  Speaker 1: if we just did a race. We interview athletes, We
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  Speaker 1: talk about all things both you know, in running, but
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  Speaker 1: like also outside of running. So we have written form,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: We have short form on Instagram, we have long form
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: videos on YouTube. However you like to hear stories, We're
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  Speaker 1: trying to come at you in your own in your
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  Speaker 1: own way.
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  Speaker 4: You can find Colleen a lot of places.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, well, you can find me over at Emily a
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  Speaker 2: Body and at Hurdle Podcast Another Hurdle Conquered.
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  Speaker 3: Yay, catch you guys next time.