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2103 - 90 Day Fiance (s12e14) "On Borrowed Time" with Kimberly · Pink Shade: Reality TV with Mary Payne

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  Speaker 1: Hello, welcome to Pink Shade. It's Mary Paynon Kimberly. Here
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  Speaker 1: you guys. We had about five six minutes of our
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  Speaker 1: recording platform not working here, so.
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  Speaker 2: I would say ten fifteen minutes. It felt like longer.
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  Speaker 3: I mean I would say six seven.
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  Speaker 2: Oh god, you just want to do that.
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  Speaker 1: I know, I just wanted to do that. Sorry. I
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  Speaker 1: love an old thing that young people said four years ago.
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  Speaker 1: I loved him keep it current anyway. So that's why
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  Speaker 1: we sounded so surprised when we logged on, because we
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  Speaker 1: had just been sitting here hitting record orcord or record
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  Speaker 1: and it wouldn't work. But here we are. Everybody, here
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  Speaker 1: we are. Today is TLC Tuesday, and we're going to
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  Speaker 1: talk about ninety Day Fiance, season twelve. Somehow, my voice
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  Speaker 1: is very crackly. I don't know why. Maybe it's because
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  Speaker 1: it's not time, baby, It's because I'm ingried, is wondering
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  Speaker 1: what's happening. It's long and finally, sorry, it wasn't our fault,
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  Speaker 1: your band practice. I think because I was at the
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  Speaker 1: beach and I was like being crazy and having drinks
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  Speaker 1: every night, and I don't normally do that in my
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  Speaker 1: everyday life. So I think that messes with your voice.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe that's like Stevie Nick sounds so raspy, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Was a lot of these ladies you can
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  Speaker 2: tell by the voice, like Marissa's mom. It's a voice thing,
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  Speaker 2: but your voice sounds young still. Oh well, but you
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  Speaker 2: know the women where it's like, oh, I can just tell,
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  Speaker 2: like like on age inappropriate, there is a lady who
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  Speaker 2: is shockingly old for how she looks. Oh, yes, shockingly like.
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  Speaker 1: Janet Jackson is her name. Her name is Janet Jackson.
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  Speaker 2: Not that one. And she looks incredible.
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  Speaker 1: She's sixty and she looks forty.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's just mind blowing Witchcrest. And but the voice
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  Speaker 2: is a little like she's lived a life.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes it's a smoker's thing, but for me, I
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  Speaker 1: think it's just yeah, I think it's just like staying
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  Speaker 1: up too late and having wine. And anyway, I'm back
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  Speaker 1: on the I gotta get on the clean and narrow.
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  Speaker 1: I'm taking my son to college this week and we'll
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  Speaker 1: be do we love as blind notes and that's gonna
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  Speaker 1: as per us just completely wipe out my immune system,
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  Speaker 1: just the amount of work.
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  Speaker 2: But don't worry much, like we'll get it done on
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  Speaker 2: these reality shows.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Actually, Love is Blind is not as like it's not
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  Speaker 2: like Love Island like where they're just all just like
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  Speaker 2: boning all the time. No, because they're separate, so there's
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  Speaker 2: no like there's not like STDs are flowing on an
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  Speaker 2: island type of situation.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, it's not like Temptation Island. And
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  Speaker 1: that's just good, dirty fun, that's what that is. They've
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  Speaker 1: been filming that I've been. I was watching Mark Mark
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  Speaker 1: l Wahlberg's stories. He was definitely in Hawaii for quite
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  Speaker 1: a bit of time, so that's something to look forward to.
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  Speaker 1: I love his Blind UK. I am looking forward to it.
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  Speaker 1: It comes out next week. I was on the nineteenth.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what's going on with the screeners,
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  Speaker 1: but probably won't be dropping all the episodes immediately like
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  Speaker 1: I usually do. Probably be doing like a little half
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  Speaker 1: and halfy half and halfsies because of the moving kids
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  Speaker 1: into college situation that I'll not kids, just the one
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  Speaker 1: speaking of we got to get this podcast going because
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  Speaker 1: he wants to sit with me and start looking at
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  Speaker 1: craft to order for his new frat house situation.
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  Speaker 2: I love it.
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  Speaker 1: It's so funny. One of the moms in the group said,
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  Speaker 1: does anybody is reading like a little dining table, like
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  Speaker 1: a little kitchen table. The other moms wrote, no space
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  Speaker 1: TV traces. I was like, because some of the moms
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  Speaker 1: have now been there and seen it, and I have
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  Speaker 1: not seen it. I've only seen pictures and artists renderings
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  Speaker 1: of the other moms because they're trying to have measurements.
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  Speaker 1: So that's that's hilarious.
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  Speaker 2: That's just don't spend a lot because you know it's
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  Speaker 2: all going to be just sticky and stained. I met
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  Speaker 2: with from alcohol. I didn't mean if anything nefarious or
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  Speaker 2: sexual going on. No, I didn't mean that.
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  Speaker 1: No, everything now like Sarper's bottle collection. Everything will be
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  Speaker 1: like Amazon or on a lower end wayfair target situation. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: or just wait till I get there and just go
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  Speaker 1: around to like the thrift shops and stuff and find
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  Speaker 1: stuff that's.
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  Speaker 2: Driving around and pick stuff up off the side of
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  Speaker 2: the street. That's how every male in college that I
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  Speaker 2: knew furnished their apartment.
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  Speaker 1: I have to tell you on Age Inappropriate, the new
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  Speaker 1: show on we TV that the episode dropped yesterday, Our
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  Speaker 1: episode dropped yesterday. That one girl that was trying to
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  Speaker 1: decorate that house. It definitely looked like she she picked
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  Speaker 1: up four different chairs off the street. Yeah, We're like,
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  Speaker 1: why can't she pull it together and decorate this house.
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  Speaker 2: She has a rich husband who's a thousand years old.
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  Speaker 2: She just he's expecting the bare minimum. He just wants
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  Speaker 2: He's like, Josh, he just wants a chair to sit in. Yes, ouch,
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  Speaker 2: God bless giving her the money. He's giving her the
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  Speaker 2: credit card order stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Well listen, this week, we're gonna this
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  Speaker 1: is ninety Day Fiance. Guys, sorry, ninety Day Fiance season twelve,
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  Speaker 1: episode fourteen, on borrowed time. Now, we're gonna start with
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  Speaker 1: Marissa and Edward.
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  Speaker 2: They're like a mob hit out on someone and they
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  Speaker 2: haven't been killed yet.
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  Speaker 1: That's I mean, what some of these people.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels like it. We're gonna start with and Edward.
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  Speaker 1: And I got to tell you, I enjoyed the beginning
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  Speaker 1: of this situation with them. I was like, look, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I could kind of see how they got a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Lot Yeah, we were shipping them briefly and then it
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  Speaker 2: just all went to hell.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but we know they got married. So again,
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  Speaker 1: how how did they get there. We don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't I want to know, like what the percentage
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  Speaker 2: of time these people think is appropriate to have a
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  Speaker 2: good enough relationship so that you should get married, Like
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  Speaker 2: is it just fifty percent of the time? Do they
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  Speaker 2: think like fifty one? Maybe? Like do they think I
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  Speaker 2: am happy with this person fifty one percent of the time?
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  Speaker 2: That is, so that is enough for us to get married,
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  Speaker 2: whereas opposed to people that you might meet in normal
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  Speaker 2: life would expect to be happy with this person like
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  Speaker 2: eighty ninety percent of the time.
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  Speaker 1: Probably, I'd say eighty eighty five percent would be better.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's what I hear from, Like, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know therapists on TV, they're like, eighty percent is good. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: she has eighty percent good for me. But the people
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  Speaker 2: here it's like twenty twenty one percent of the time.
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  Speaker 1: It's good then, and then they'll tell you, well, you know,
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  Speaker 1: they shot us, you know, twelve hours a day for
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  Speaker 1: four months and they had to call it down to
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  Speaker 1: six minutes, and you know, right, there were so many
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  Speaker 1: fun things they didn't show, so.
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  Speaker 2: Right, yeah, right, that's true. So Marissa, who is in
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  Speaker 2: a few minutes going to be staring at Edward, like
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  Speaker 2: she's going to shift him in prison. Like the scariest
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  Speaker 2: look I've ever seen someone give another person.
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  Speaker 1: The way her lips got so small.
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  Speaker 2: So small, and her face is so tight and thin,
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  Speaker 2: and it's just like a I don't know, it's like
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  Speaker 2: a just a crackhead, a crack dealer who wants their money.
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  Speaker 2: Oh it has a gun and it's pointed right at you,
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  Speaker 2: and they're just want It's like scary. It was scary,
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  Speaker 2: like someone's holding your feet upside down off of a balcony.
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  Speaker 3: Give me one money.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, scared. So they're but first of all happy times.
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  Speaker 2: They're walking hand in hand to a bar class, and
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  Speaker 2: that maybe it's the exercise that made her so angry.
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  Speaker 2: She thinks exercise to making her happy, but it's not.
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  Speaker 2: It does the opposite for her.
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  Speaker 1: I think being at that bar three studio is her
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  Speaker 1: happy place, you know, I don't really is.
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  Speaker 2: She should just stay there when she's not there. So
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  Speaker 2: they're walking. She's teaching a bar class and he thinks
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  Speaker 2: it's a lady's class, no offense, and I'm you know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be able to handle it, and she's like
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  Speaker 2: it's gonna be harder than you think. They say, it's
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  Speaker 2: been a week since their fight in New York, and
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  Speaker 2: they've been working really hard on the relationship and on
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  Speaker 2: their lists that they have for each other. And they
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  Speaker 2: got a new puppy, which will solve everything.
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  Speaker 1: I know, they should just have a baby too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, saves. It saves that. She literally says, I think
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  Speaker 2: it's bringing our family together and our relationship stronger.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure a puppy pooping in her house is really
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  Speaker 1: making her happy.
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  Speaker 2: I mean she probably doesn't even let Edward poop in
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  Speaker 2: the house. No, she probably had makes them go to
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  Speaker 2: the gas station, like. So they hug outside and she says, oh,
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  Speaker 2: he says, I'm getting excited, and she says, I feel
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  Speaker 2: you getting excited.
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  Speaker 1: She asked. She goes, are you getting excited? He goes, what,
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  Speaker 1: And she goes, I can feel it. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 2: Just so of course, she was like on the streets
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  Speaker 2: of Pennsylvania, so you're gonna be kicked out of the
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  Speaker 2: country club. So she says, I feel a little awkward
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  Speaker 2: being affectionate with him, but he it was on the list,
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  Speaker 2: and as he does things that make me happier, it
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  Speaker 2: comes more easily for me too. It's like a circle
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  Speaker 2: and he probably does more things to make you happy
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  Speaker 2: because you're being nicer to him. So in the class,
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  Speaker 2: he wants to use twenty pound weights and she laughs
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  Speaker 2: at him and she's like, as your instructor, I suggest
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  Speaker 2: eight pounds or less. And he settles on twelve pounds
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  Speaker 2: and he says it's easy, and she goes, I'm not
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  Speaker 2: going to micromanage you, and with like tight, I'm not
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  Speaker 2: gonna I don't do that anymore, New Marisa, and he's like,
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  Speaker 2: I love Numerisa. We'll see how long, Nu Marissa.
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  Speaker 1: I did notice though, that when he was holding the weights,
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  Speaker 1: you could see on the end they said ten.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, he had ten pound weights.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah he had ten pounds.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: So the class starts, he's struggling right away. He can't
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  Speaker 2: believe it. She suggests a modification for him, and I
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  Speaker 2: don't need a modification. He says, I felt like I
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  Speaker 2: was in boot camp. These are wonder woman's I don't
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  Speaker 2: know that, and he's complimenting the women like, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know how you did that. That was hard, and after
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  Speaker 2: he says, I feel like I'm dying. I can't move
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  Speaker 2: and She says, I told you not to grab the
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  Speaker 2: heavy heavy weights, and he says, yes, you're my trainer.
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  Speaker 2: So then she has She puts in work mopping the
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  Speaker 2: exercise mats. It was a sprayed them.
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  Speaker 1: It was a swift fer. Yeah, So I wonder if
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  Speaker 1: they spray them with.
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  Speaker 2: Alcohol and this dry Yeah, maybe it doesn't alcoholic. Does
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  Speaker 2: it dries on its own? They make special special sprays
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  Speaker 2: for yoga.
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  Speaker 3: Yoga I didn't understand.
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  Speaker 2: So she says, I want to get back to the
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  Speaker 2: old us. All the things we're doing reminds me of
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  Speaker 2: why we fell in love. And he says he feels
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  Speaker 2: all the effort she's putting in should try to be
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  Speaker 2: more patient with him, and which means we have to
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  Speaker 2: start to be more patient with her, as I feel
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  Speaker 2: like a television audience. If she's going to do her part,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to try to do our part.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, well we can try.
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  Speaker 2: It won't last on both ends. So they're getting ready
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  Speaker 2: to go out to dinner. He's waiting for her. She
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: corrects his English, which I don't know if he likes
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  Speaker 2: if she does that, Maybe she does, I feel like it.
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  Speaker 1: He said, what did he say that? She corrected I'm
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  Speaker 1: trying to remember. Yeah, it was like I'm I'm I
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  Speaker 1: can't remember what it was. It was. It was it
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  Speaker 1: was a verb. It was a verb tense yea yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So she says, I really want to keep it light
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  Speaker 2: tonight and enjoy each other's company and just have fun.
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  Speaker 2: And he says, I love seeing you laugh and smile.
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  Speaker 2: And he says I'm happy because I've seen so much change.
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  Speaker 2: And she says, I'm glad that you're happy. But this
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  Speaker 2: conversation is so serious, and I want tonight to be fun.
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  Speaker 2: So that's warning number one.
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  Speaker 1: Also, he ordered a drink and she kind of said, like, okay, good,
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad you're having fun and having a drink.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, maybe I'll even.
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  Speaker 1: Get crazy in order.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a fun night. So the food comes, she
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  Speaker 2: tells him to put his napkin on his lap like
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  Speaker 2: her mother taught her. The mother hasn't given her the
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  Speaker 2: name of the plastic surgeon.
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  Speaker 3: We've died.
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: We're dying to know who did that lady's face, So.
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  Speaker 2: We really want to know what's your doctor's name. So
• 13:10
  Speaker 2: he says, honestly, honestly, I'm gonna be honest with you,
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  Speaker 2: which is how he speaks. He says it all the
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  Speaker 2: time and she laughs and she's like, you say honest
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  Speaker 2: a million times. And he says, my decision was that
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  Speaker 2: you're not going to change, and I was going to
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  Speaker 2: go back to my country. And she's like, this is
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  Speaker 2: too serious. Why are you doing this? And he says,
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to tell you. I was being jealous and
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  Speaker 2: I was questioning myself. So what I did was I
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  Speaker 2: decided this is her choice. If one day you decided
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  Speaker 2: to cheat on me, it's your loss. It's so I
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  Speaker 2: feel better, I think, he said, because it was out
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  Speaker 2: of my hands.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, like he can't control it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't control her, and if she does, she's
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  Speaker 2: gonna lose me. And I'm a great catch. And she
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  Speaker 2: says this was supposed to be a fun night. This
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  Speaker 2: is not the time for this emotional, heavy conversation. And
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  Speaker 2: it's frustrating that he can't pick up on the cues
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  Speaker 2: or me just telling.
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  Speaker 1: Him, yeah, they'd out.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to have this conversation right now,
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  Speaker 2: and she says, I've had and then he kind of
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  Speaker 2: gets a He raises his voice the tiniest bit and
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: she says, I've had trauma in the past, and when
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  Speaker 2: I see a hint of anger or aggression, I get triggered.
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  Speaker 2: And so she says, the good night is just over
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  Speaker 2: now you ruined it. And he says, well, you're rolling
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: your eyes while I'm trying to tell you something. And
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: she's like, cause I said I didn't want to have
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  Speaker 2: this kind of conversation now and she he says something
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  Speaker 2: and like again tiniest bit raising his voice, and she goes,
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  Speaker 2: lower your voice, scared.
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  Speaker 1: I'm scared.
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  Speaker 3: I'm scared.
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: Right now, I'm doing scared.
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: I'm scared.
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  Speaker 2: It was very scary, and she was.
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  Speaker 1: Like it was like this because I've got really really
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  Speaker 1: thin lips, so i can do it. It's like, lower your.
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  Speaker 2: Voice, lower your voice.
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  Speaker 1: And then she got her mouth really smooth. I will
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  Speaker 1: spank you in public. I am not afraid, exactly the
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  Speaker 1: right out of this restaurant, young man.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the warning that comes after five of I'm
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: counting to five. Yes, it's the warning that comes up
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  Speaker 2: to five. So he keeps trying to talk about the
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: relationship because she's not getting it or he's not getting
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  Speaker 2: it that she doesn't want to do this, and she says,
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  Speaker 2: I need a break and she walks away. She's like,
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  Speaker 2: I get a perfect I just wanted to have fun,
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  Speaker 2: relax without the kids, have a drink, and he's ruined it.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's just a communication thing too. He was
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  Speaker 2: trying to say like the same things they were talking
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  Speaker 2: about at the bar studio, which is like, I'm so happy,
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  Speaker 2: I've seen changes. I was almost ready to walk away,
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  Speaker 2: but now I'm so happy. But it was still too
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  Speaker 2: serious and she did not want to. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: what their fun conversations are, like do they talk about
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  Speaker 2: the kids, Like, do they talk about his plans? Like
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what they don't seem to have like
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  Speaker 2: the do they talk about a TV show they're loving,
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  Speaker 2: or like, I don't know what they talk about.
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  Speaker 1: I just try to think of other people on this
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  Speaker 1: show and that they might be having fun, like you
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  Speaker 1: see Debbie and Meadow and she laughs at all as
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: corny jokes.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, that's true, and.
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  Speaker 1: That's fun for them. For him to make a joke
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  Speaker 1: about a banana being a flower, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Right, mm hmm.
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  Speaker 1: So I could see that.
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  Speaker 3: But them, we haven't seen.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe they would just keep talking about the bar class
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  Speaker 2: and how they.
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  Speaker 1: Thought it were you got excited when you hugged me
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  Speaker 1: and I.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: Felt your There's a lot of circumcision, boner foreskin talk,
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  Speaker 2: a lot, a lot a lot of boner chat boner
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  Speaker 2: chat with Marissa and Edward. This is a new podcast,
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  Speaker 2: so it just went horribly. So it was a real
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: roller coaster with them this week.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: I was a real roller coaster with them this week. Y'all,
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: as levees of a certain age, we know that things
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: are starting to happen. Okay, our skin loses some glow
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  Speaker 1: and elasticity, Your hair and nails have a little bit
• 17:20
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  Speaker 1: Exclusions apply. De wim Meadow. Okay, they wrote the screen
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  Speaker 1: and I was watching this live as it was on
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: because I was packing to leave the beach and I
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: knew I was gonna take my notes in the car,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: so I was just watching it live. And my husband
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: comes in and says, did.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: He say that looks like an Egyptian brad Pitt.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: No. Strangely, he didn't say that. He just said, like,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: I don't understand this. How old is that lady. I said, well,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: she's fifty five with two years younger than me.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: So slow your role shut up.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so set up.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: And three years younger than you, mister. And I said,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: and that guy. And he goes, what is he like
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: in his thirties? I go, no, I go, actually he's
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: in his forties. And he's like, huh, said, yeah, I said,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: their age difference isn't crazy.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks worse than it is.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: It does, yeah, it does, especially and after watching that
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: Age Inappropriate show some of those people. So these two
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: love birds, you just can't stop with their with their
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: love and their affection. They're going to go to a
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: cooking class.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: She says.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: It's their first date as an officially engaged couple.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's and they're holding hands and I think that's
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: the most touching we've ever seen them do.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Later they can kiss on the lips.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: That was creepy and weird.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: Crazy.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: So he says he does not need cooking classes. He
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: knows how to cook, but she, Debbie needs many sessions,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: and she goes, I get home every day after five thirty,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: so it'd be nice for him to learn a few
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: things that he could do before I get home. Yeah,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: if it's agreed that he's going to work on his
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: acting career not get.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: A job, yes, he should be cooking. Yes. So then
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: they are.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Doing some sort of shrimp pasta situation, and I didn't
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: need to see any of that shrimp stuff.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: I looked away. I turned my head to the side.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: I was happy they were wearing gloves.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Well. Yeah, So when she's trying to like tear the
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: shrimp apart, Mito was like, do it, Debbie, just you
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: should be doing it. Don't look at me. She's like,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: I am grossed out. He goes, you should be doing this, Debbie.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: You need to learn how to cook. I was like,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: I'm grossed out. Oh yeah, it's the biggest shrimp I've
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: ever seen in my life.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: You gotta like deep poop it.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: No, So he jokes with her about when he was
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: in Egypt with her. She said, oh, I said, Debbie,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: can you Oh yes, I'm so good.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: I could cook everything.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: And he goes and since I've been here, I've only
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: tasted French fries or tuna salad. And she goes, that's cooking.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: That's like me when I boil spaghetti and do the
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Jenny marendera sauce. Yeah, you were like craco. That's cooking.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: I just cooked, chop up some onions and put it
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: in there.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Oh that's way too No, that's a whole extra step.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: You gotta sauce. So they're in this cooking class and
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: the she tells the.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: Chef, let me tell you about this.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Hilarious joke my fiance pulled on me the other day.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Why did she tell him? Stop? Don't tell people this story.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: It's awful. She goes, he's really a jokes her and
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: we were looking at a wedding venue and he told
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: me he was going to go home to Egypt. And
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: he goes, you see me, I am so funny, so
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: full of surprises. And Debbie goes, yeah, I almost had
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: a heart attack. And the guy goes, you guys.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Also in heart attack range. I mean, any woman is
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: like heart he's just like one of the number one
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: killers of women. So and and I feel like the
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: symptoms are like way, they're not like the typical ones.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: They're like different. I think it's not like left arm hurts,
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: so like it's just a nation shouldn't be he could
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: she could really get a heart attack. His dumb jokes
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: could kill her.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe that's his plan.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there do it after the wedding. At least I'm
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: talking to.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Debbie says, you know, Mido shows love in different ways,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: and sometimes I'm okay with it, but I want him
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: to be more open with me, more affectionate with me.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: So they're on the date and she's they're eating and
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: she says, this day he has been so nice. I'm
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: starting to feel like much more comfortable and I'm really happy.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: And he goes okay, and she says, how do you feel?
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: And he goes, how do you think I feel? I
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: got engaged with you, and she goes, I know, but
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: sometimes it's nice to hear it.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: He says, so I am happy.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: God, was that that hard to say that it is?
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: And she goes, I love you. I love you so much.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: He just stares at her and he goes, I love
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: you too, okay, and she goes, thank you, and he
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: kisses her hand.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: I only had to beg you to say it for
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: months and months and months.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: But I'm talking. She says. This is the first time
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: since he's been there that he has said it, and
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: now his actions are lining up with what she wants.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: They have, they've had obstacles, but she's very happy in
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: this moment. So the next day he's making juice, but
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: I think it's like a smoothie, and he's made it
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: in a cup and he's put like an orange or
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: something on the side. And she's like, oh, my goodness,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: look at you. The cooking class and he goes, oh, yes,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: I'm cooking for you now, Debbie. And she goes, are
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: you ready? Tomorrow is the wedding and he goes, oh, yes,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: I'm ready, and she goes, I still have to decide
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: what dress I'm gonna wear, and I got to go
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: get some flowers today. He goes, If you do not
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: get flowers, Debbie, you can use banana. Banana, you can
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: throw it to your friends. I was like, doesn't even
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: make sense. No, it's not even funny. It's not even
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: like we have this broccoli or just something that could
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: be a flower.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: I mean, right, jack ahead.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: She says, only her son and her daughter are coming
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: to the wedding. Her son, Kayden, is twenty four, and
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: he is very very protective of her. He has reservations
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: about Meadow and is concerned because you know, it's an
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Egyptian actor moving to the United States.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: Okay, is that the point where we see a photo
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: of him. Yeah, so the discord on the podcast chat
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: that we are on if he was hot or not?
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Right in that picture, he's hot.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: In that picture, he's hot, but he is a shape shifter.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: He is shifter. So in some photos it's like ooh,
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: what was I thinking? And yeah, some photos it's like
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: wow wow.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: But I did go look through his Instagram and that
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: is where I discovered that there were some pictures were.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: They weren't so great, but interesting.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: She said, journalism.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: That's what I do here, guys, That's what I do.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: So she tells him she's going to go look at
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: flowers for the wedding. She really wants them to be nice,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: and her friends Laura and Astra will be there and
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: maybe you can come and you guys can mend fences.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: And he says, no, they are your friends, not my friends.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: And she goes, so you have no interest in a
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: conversation and he goes no, But then she kisses him
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: on the lips goodbye. He's like, bye, my Debbie, like lips.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: I thought that he wouldn't do that.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: I thought he wouldn't do that. Either.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know. His rules are slipping. Maybe the fake
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: love is turning into real love. It's like the movie
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: Green Card and he's Gerard Depardieu and he is developing
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: real feelings.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: I remember Gerard Depardu being in that movie. But who
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: was the girl that was in it?
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: Andy McDowell, Oh uh huh, I think I think so too.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: It's a real current efforts. Everybody.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: That movie was probably like nineteen ninety seven. So, and
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: talking ahead, Meadow goes, I won't go anywhere to flower
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: shop or anywhere with friends. I've told her that because
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: after the Haunted House night, I can't deal with them.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: We get a replay of his horrible behavior.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: His is they did nothing wrong. Yeah, and one of
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: them was wearing a cute league of their own costume,
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: which is how happy she that she picked like a
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: good costume that year, because you imagine if you had
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: half asked it. And they keep showing that footage. Yeah,
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: but forever and ever and now we always will remember
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: her greatly of their own costume.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: And he says, I still haven't forgiven them, and for me,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: it's done.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: I won't do.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: That forgiven for what did what did they do?
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: They did nothing.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: No, Debbie's the one who called you a a non virgin.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: So she meets with Laura and Astra and she's like, well,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: she shows them her ring.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: And they go what's that?
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: And she goes, I'm getting married tomorrow and they go
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: what tomorrow? Wow?
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: Talking to this to these two ladies, we love them.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: They're like, if she marries him, it's going to have
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: a negative impact on her life. This is seriously questionable,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: and it seems like last time we met him it
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: wasn't a good impression. We're very nervous. But basically she's
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: made her mind up and there's no way to stop her.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: This is just how she is.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: But like, I just think about all the year she
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: has given up dating anybody else for this loser. I
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: just can't.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: So also is has she not seen them since Halloween?
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Because it feels like they're all.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: Like, it's been a minute, Hey, good to see you girl.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Right, And then it's like, knowing what we know about
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: toxic relationships and like the one partner isolating you from
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: your friends, it does make me nervous that these women
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: are like very close to her and they have not
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: seen her or been updated about what was happening with
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: me though, if they are looking no update. They are
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: looking at her like I would imagine I would look
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: at a friend who is telling me she just found
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: a really fun group to join called Nexium, and I'd
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: be like, ah ah, okay, yeah, I'm gonna need to
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: hear more about that.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're looking at her like.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: So they walk into the flower shop and they're like, okay,
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: so the wedding is tomorrow. Huh She says yeah, And
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: they said, well, how did this all go down? And
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: she goes, well, the last couple of weeks have been
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: smooth sailing. It's been so great, you know, And they go,
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: but do you think it's like super fast? And I mean,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: are you feeling the pressure to do it? She goes, well,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: for sure, I wish we had six months on the
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: visa because I don't think three months is enough time.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: You know, six months will give you some breathing room.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: But you know, we have to we have to do
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: it now or he'll have to leave. And she goes,
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: they said, well, what's what's the wedding going to be?
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: You know, what should we wear? Kind of a thing?
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Do I I didn't. I didn't do I need to
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: take off work tomorrow?
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So like Wednesday at three, Like what are we doing?
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: So she says it's just going to be me and
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: the kids and and they're like, we're we're not invited,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: like we can't come, and she goes, I'm sorry, it's
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: just gonna be me and the kids and him.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: So I have asked you here to help me pick
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: out my wedding flowers to a wedding you are not
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: invited to, like, do not ask me to help you
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: with your wedding planning? And I'm not even getting a
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: free dinner out of it.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: It's crazy because what's that he flowers for? She says,
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Mito and Kayden don't need flowers. They're not going to
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: even have like a booten ear or anything. So it's
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: gonna be like her, Okay, yeah, I guess. So the
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: flora's name Sue comes out and they talk about the flowers,
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: they get some champagne and Laura and asked her like,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: so he's being nice to you now, like not telling
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: you to shut your mouth, and she goes, oh no,
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: nothing like that. And they're like you don't have to
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: do this, Like no, you don't have to do this.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: It's never too late to change your mind.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: All that he's being nice to means is that he
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: has realized he stopped. He has to stop doing the
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: bare minimum yeah, and actually use his Brad Pitt level
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: acting skills right to pretend to be nice to her.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: And he's three weeks. That's all he's had to do,
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: and he's done it. That's all that that before was
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: the real hymn. Yes, this is the fake him this
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: past few weeks.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: I agree. I agree.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: And so they say it's never too late, and she goes, well,
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: I know all that, but he is my person.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: And the talking hit.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: Debbie says, I wish they would just be happy for me, Like,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: it's not great to hear all of this twelve hours
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: before your wedding. So Cayden, her son, sends her a text.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: She goes, oh, Cayden's sending me a text, you know,
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: And they go, oh, how does Kayden like meet Tom?
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: And she goes, well, they haven't met. So it seems
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: to me Kayden is in New Orleans. He is not
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: outside the city, because she goes, no, they haven't met.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Like he's in school five days a week and he
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: works for nights a week. He just has no free time,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: So they could have gone to the restaurant where he
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: works exactly in this section, and exactly he's had one
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: afternoon off crazy school five days a week, works for
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: nights a week.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: But no, he's hearing from the sister. I'll tell you
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: about this loser. You don't want to meet him?
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: No, yeah, like, just don't just don't don't miss a
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: shift for this guy. So she goes, oh, no, he
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: just texts me that his work wants him to come
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: in the evening tomorrow. Oh god, I was hoping this
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: wouldn't happen. And they go, well, it's kind of like
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: the biggest day in your life, like they he can't say,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: it's my mother's wedding. I can't come in, Like, yeah,
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: I hope Kayateen understands this is important. And she goes, yeah,
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: oh gosh, and I talking head Astra and Laura go,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: he better come to this wedding. Like she's only asking
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: two people to be there, her son and her daughter,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Like her kids are her whole. I mean, it's a
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: college job. He can miss a shift.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And they need two rational people there to try
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: to talk her out of it the daughter and the son.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: It can't just be all on the daughter.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: And I think that they know because this is like
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: her baby boy, like if he sees it, you know.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: So they say to her, would you get married without Cayden,
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: and she goes, no, I wouldn't. I won't.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: I would just have to postpone the wedding.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't do it if he's not there, and he
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: knows that, and they go, well, maybe subconsciously he's not
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: going to come, so you won't do it. Not on purpose,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: but maybe subconsciously that's what he's doing, and she goes,
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: if this happens, I'll have to call the whole wedding off.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm freaking out. So she starts crying
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: and they hug her, and in the talking head she says,
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: maybe Kayden does not approve, but if he can't come,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: I can't see a wedding.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: What day are we at?
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: Oh, it didn't tell us, but we are like eleven
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: days out, like it's very.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: Clow okay, so it has to happen.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: I did see an internet rumor that was that these
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: two have been banned from filming and he has gone
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: back from Egypt, gone back to Egypt, but like he
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: did something horrible and production. This is the rumor that
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: I read on the internet. Guys, it's alleged and probably
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: not true, but that he got banned from filming, so
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: in turn, she got banned from filming and that we
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: would not be seeing them. So I don't know if
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: they went to the reunion he did something terrible, but
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: they said he had gone back to Egypt.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: Why would she get banned if?
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe she actually horrible too, she does
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: have a temper. I don't know, my god, So.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Again they got married because that was the fast internet rumor.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: People said that they got married.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: People have shown their marriage certificate. Yeah, and it was
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: filed and also like finished, like it was filed and
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: they got married. Yeah, so we'll see, Oh my god,
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: we shall see.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: What episode are we on?
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Like fourteen?
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: We got even getting close? Right?
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: Usually it's like twenty two or something, right, including tells.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: Yes, it's like twenty one or twenty two, including.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: Tells we got to get we got to be like
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: four away? I think yeah. Okay, Thomas and.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: Paula, this was my favorite.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: It was your favorite of all time, all time.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: It was a sitcom. I did not know I needed
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: an apartment with nine Brazilian people and Thomas all living
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: together under one room.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: I loved his obx T shirt.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: I was like, hilarious, Yeah, out of ranks. Yeah, I
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: just okay, I loved it. So, first of all, she's
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: cleaning the balcony. She brought a rug online for seventy
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: dollars with the credit card he gave her, and he's
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: like seventeen and she's like, no, seventy and he goes
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: to Jesus Christ.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: So it did look nice because it was round and
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: the balcony was kind of round, and so that was
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: like a good idea.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: So I was like, good idea.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: She does a good taste, Yeah, so she just has she.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Just has any taste because anything else.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: So she's pulling out all of their camping gear that
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: they use when they go to music festivals, which I
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: cannot picture Thomas at a music festival because I feel
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: like the dust and the drugs and the smell and
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: the smell smell, the marijuana smell, like I feel like
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: it would aggravate his allergy.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: Has matt suit, yeah, the bo he is full on.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: Has mat suit yeah.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: Okay, if anyone's ever seen him at a music festival,
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: you'll probably find him. Yeah, you'll probably find him in
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: the nurse's tent at all times.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: Joke.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: So I mean like burning Man, can you imagine the
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: smoke getting in his eyes? Or Coachella, Like, what's happening?
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got they have camping stuff for music festivals.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: It's crazy. So she says she doesn't really want this
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: camping stuff for She's like, my mom is going to
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: have to sit on this camping chair and he folds
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: it out. He's like, yeah, you could sleep on this,
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: and she's like, my family is flying fourteen hours to
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: come here. You want them to sleep on that? Now,
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: this is her fault because he suggested get a hotel
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: for them so they could have beds, but you have
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: chosen not to. So she says, since the ultimatum, she
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: has stopped wearing deodorant and perfume to keep the peace.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: And he's trying to make it work with all of
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: her family coming there for the week of the wedding.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: So they're going to use his work desk as a
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: dining table because he of course has that floor table.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: Huh.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: And she's like let's just buy a dining room table.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: And he's like, we don't have room for a third table.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: We have my desk and we have the floor table.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: Where would we even put a third table. So he
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: pulls out a gaming desk chair and he's like, your
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: mom can sit at this tape this chair at the table.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: It's like the head of the you know, it's a
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: big gaming chair. It's like the head of the table.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: It's the best chair in the house. Come on, he's
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: trying to amp up everything, like, look at this great chair.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: Your mom can sit here. And this setup costs me
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: zero dollars. Imagine if we had like a boring dining
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: room table with like four identical chairs. That would be
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: so horrible. How why would she said? Yes, I would
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: love that. Can we do that please? And she goes,
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: we can't have a dining room dining table because this
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: is where I do yoga every day. I put on
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: my yoga mat and it's this is my yoga spot
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: in the middle of the floor, in the middle of the.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: Room and shiny area.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah. She's like, go to the gym. You take up
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: the whole living room. It's selfish. And he says, you're
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: not being fair. I wish that you appreciated life the
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: same way I do.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: These two people really don't need to be together.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: They don't and this judgment, like he really thinks his
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: minimalistic attitude makes him a better person because he a
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: pretty yoga mat.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: Anywhere you can put a yoga mat in the bedroom
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: with the foot of the bed, roll it up, shove
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: it under the bed at night.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: That's the point of yoga is you can take it
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: with you anywhere. You could go to the park. He
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: thinks he's better than her. It's he is very particular
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: and his way of doing things is the best way,
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: and if you don't like it, you're bad.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: So she looks so defeated. She's just worn down. She's
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: just like head slumped. And she says, if this was
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: all temporary, I could deal with it. But you're telling
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: me that this is a beautiful way to live and
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: we're going to be living like this the rest of
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: our lives. And I can't accept that, and I'll go
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: back to Brazil. It's making me feel like a crazy
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: person here. I don't have it control. She said, there's
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: a gasoline burning inside of me, and she's gonna burn
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: this whole place down. She's like, I'm going to pretend
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: for my family that things are happy, but I'm open
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: to going back to Brazil with them. And he's like,
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: I'm giving you everything I can, everything I'm capable of
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: giving you.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: Except furniture from fucking Target or something like how cars.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: It's all so then it's the day her family's arriving
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: because she manifested it, or they bought Pienning tickets or whatever.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: She says, it's because she manifested it, and she's so thrilled,
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: and she wants these issues with Thomas put aside. She
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: doesn't want to fight in front of the family, which
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: lasts about zero point two seconds. It lasts as long
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: as Marissa being nice to Edward last ed So she's like,
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: I just want a non stressful, normal life with furniture.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: That's I'm not asking for much. And it's very sweet.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: They're all hugging. The family is so excited to be there.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: Thomas is hugging everyone, picking up the little nieces, and
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: the mom says it was always Paula's dream to bring
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: us to the United States, and I was like, she
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: knows you're not you know you're not staying right the
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: way she said it was like bringing us all to
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: the United States, And I was like, you know, it's
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: in one one way thing, like you know, you can
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: say you have a return flight. Yes, right, So so
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: they all go to the apartment and the mom goes,
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: it's different, right, Paula, It's it's different, right. She keeps
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: saying it's different, and the sister looks slightly confused. Could
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: be the air mattress leaning up against the wall, and
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: it's like, we're all staying here. I think he thinks
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: because they live in like another country that he thinks
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: does he think they're he knows where they live, like, yeah,
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: they're very poor and they are used to like he's
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: seen it in one room, but he's seen how they lived.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: She's seen her apartment.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: She lives very nicely.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: So and it's she said to me that they travel
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: together a lot, and she always had deodura in perfume
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: and losha. He never said one word till she got
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: to the States. She never once did he ever mention
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: any of this until she got to the United States.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: I believe that yeah, because it's in his space. He
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: needs to control his space and he's letting her come
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: into his safe space. They should have gotten an apartment.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: This a fresh start for both of them, because it
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: really still feels like she's a visitor staying at his place.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: So Thomas in Portuguese because I guess he knows Portuguese,
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: says this, these are the laws of the land for
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: right away. And even though she said, please, don't be
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: like a dictator with my family. First of all, no
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: shoes inside, and they're like, no problem. Secondly, I am
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: a very sensitive man to smells, and they start going okay,
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: he says no perfumes in the apartment, nothing in soaps
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: and wait, and Paula goes, sorry, I want to call
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: her Paula because that's how she says it, but he
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: calls her Paula, so I feel bad like I'm mispronouncing it.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she told me that nobody calls her Paula, it's
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: really Paulina.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: So Paulina. So she says, wait, are you saying my
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: family can't use soap and and he's like, well, yes,
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: they have sense in them and I don't like that
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: and we can buy something without, you know, smells. So
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: the mom goes, I brought baby soap, and he's like, great,
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: because that's perfect. They make babies soap with no perfume
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: because babies are sensitive like me. I'm just a sensitive
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: little boy. And the parents, the parents say, his rules
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: are very strange. When we have guests, we don't make
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: rules for them. We try to make them happy and
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: feel welcome like normal people do. And so she shows
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: them the bedroom and the brother all dear is so confused.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: He is like, you sleep in here, but there's a
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: bed in the left room. Why don't why don't you
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: get a couch that pulls out into a bed. And
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: Thomas says, well, because when we have guests stay, they
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: they don't want to sleep on a couch. They would
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: want to sleep on a bed. It's called how often
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: so pull out? How often does he have guests? His
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: family lives out of state, How often does that happen?
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: Whereas in your day to day life you have a
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: bed instead of a couch.
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: Listen, thank god, he's got that bad.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: He's got eight people there and they've got their bed,
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: and then they've got mom and dad are going to
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: sleep on the big bed. Then we've got sister and
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: brother in law. Blow up, mattress, and I guess the
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: kids are on sleeping.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: Bags or that camping chair thing.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: Sure, here's a chair at night night.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like a chair, long chair. I think
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: it could fit a child like a but it was
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: like a cot. Yeah. Yes, So the brother says, the
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: brothers just asking all the questions. Wouldn't it be better
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: to put the TV in here and then you could
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: be comfortable and watch TV? And Thomas says, there's not
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: one TV in here. And I'm very proud of that,
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: because the better I am better than all of you bad,
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: non intellectual people who watch TV. However, think of us
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: who watch TV for a living.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: However, what you're watching right here is all the time
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: I'm on.
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: A TV show.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: I'm on a TV show, but.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: I'll never watch it because I don't know television.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: You know. I read Nietzsche with what's his face?
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: Oh? What was his name?
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: What was this? Life of beer?
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: Can't life of beer? Can? Yes?
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, So the brothers just utterly confused, and they're like, what,
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: no TV. They're all like, no TV, no TV, Oh
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: my god. And that would be my reaction. I would
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: actually implode if you said no TV. So the sister
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: and brother say, I worry about Thomas's quirks a bit annoying. Yes,
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: they are so different. How are they going to get married?
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: So there aren't enough chairs, and Thomas is like, there
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: are two on the balcony. Bring in the balcony chairs.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: So the brother gives up his chair for the mom
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: and brings in the balcony chairs, and Paula says, she's
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: traveled for many hours. Of course she wants to sit Thomas.
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: She's like yelling at Thomas. I was like that lasted
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: about three seconds, and he says, I don't know when
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: she wants to sit. I didn't want to like dictate
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: when she wanted to sit, and the dad says, yikes,
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: but it sounds but it's in Portuguese so it sounds
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: like yeesh. So the not fighting thing is going great.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: Can you imagine there are ten people plus cameramen and
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: a producer in that apartment, so claustrophobic, yeah, bumping into
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: each other. So they ask what else is improvised here?
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: And Thomas is like everything, I'm the master at improvising,
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: and the mom says, I can see that, so unimpressed,
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: and Thomas says isn't it impressive? I didn't buy anything
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: for your arrival. I spent zero dollars on you. People
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: like that, you should be bragging.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: These are old, old sheet found in the dumpster towels.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: I just there's rolls of paper towels in the bathroom.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: Good luck, my weird crackhead neighbor. I borrowed some stuff
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: from them and toothbrush for you. So I spent nothing.
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: And he's bragging again. This is not like extreme cheap
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: skates where you're you're you're tossing.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: Does he have like pillows for eight people?
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: I mean right, yeah.
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: So the brother mutters he's crazy. So Paula says, it
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: takes a lot. It's a lot of pressure to get married,
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: because I don't want to send my family back with
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: this horrible story, like we came all this way to
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: Paula's wedding. She gave up, and I don't want to
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: send them back without a wedding. But this is so
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: embarrassing living like this. And so Thomas is sitting at
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: the little floor table and says this will be the
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: kid's table, as if this isn't his normal table. It's
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: that we got this just for the kids. I don't
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: make your daughter sit at this table every day. So
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: and again the brother goes, she's crazy. Yeah, So the
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: mom goes, the wedding is set right, can can we
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: get her out of this?
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: We have to go to it. Did you put a
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: deposit down?
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: So the brother goes, hail Mary. So then they're all
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: just a lot of muttering about Thomas. So that's the
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: next morning and they Thomas like did you sleep well?
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: And they're like yes. And then it right away he's like, wait, wait, wait,
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: don't put that suitcase on the blow up mattress. It's
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: delicate with like a balloon. Don't put the suitcase on it.
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: And the mom goes stopping such a son in law Thomas.
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: She hates him, and it's chaos and there's so many people,
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: and he's doing like an airplane move with the one
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: of the nieces. I will say, Thomas annoys the crap out.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: I maybe he seems to be really good with the kids.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: He does seem to be good with the kids.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: He does, yeah, So I don't know how he would
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: be disciplining them, Like I can't imagine if they spill
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: something on his carpet or like what if their glue
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: stick for their school project has scent in it, he
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: would flip out.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: What if they become a tween ager and want to
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: wear axe body spray?
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: No, no, So the mom says, there's too many people here.
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: We're all trying to shower in this bathroom. It's chaos.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: We can't kiok it's we should be at a hotel. Yes,
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: blame your blame your daughter for that. That's the one
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: thing in this that's not Thomas's fault. So then the
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: shitster son brother, Okay, he he goes this steak. He
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: pulls a steak out of the freezer and he goes,
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: this steak has been in the fridge for two years
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: and look, it's it's old. He looks at the date,
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: and Thomas says, it's frozen beef to make soup, right,
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: and they're they're all smelling it and it's clearly spoiled
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: and still bad. And he goes, this is chaos. I
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: am not protecting my peace in this apartment. It's suffocating
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: and it's been half a day. So she I didn't
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: like this. Paula starts criticizing him in front of the family, like,
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: why did we buy new meat? When you have meat
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: that's going bad and you throw out meat, but you're
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: buying new meat. And he's like, respect the facts. I
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: bought it to eat and then I was sent out
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: of town for work, so I came back and it's bad.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: It was an accident two years. Why did you put
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: it in the freezing.
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: I don't think you're supposed to make soup out of rot,
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: and he either so, but she shouldn't be piling on
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: him in front of everybody.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: She's had it, she probably, Yeah.
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: That's true. So the brother says, Thomas complains about a
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: pin but not an elephant, which I like this. That's
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: a great expression. We need to get it to Sarper.
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: Sarper can turkey it up.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: You can make it a real turk is saying yes, yes.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: And the elephant's penis is the size of a pin.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: Because he's not a real man like me, he's not
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: a leader like me. Yeah, so he goes big things
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: he cares about. He doesn't care about, like having furniture,
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: like that's something you should care about. But he is
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: complaining about a suitcase on an air mattress. So I
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: think Paula is regretting inviting us here because he's getting
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: pretty annoyed, and he's annoying. So Paula says, I would
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: never admit this to Thomas, but this is too much
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: people in the apartment. So you can get a hotel
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: right now, right now, Paka one Hotels dot Com. Just
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: walk over. So the kids are running around and my
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: mom is complaining because it's only vegan food and there's
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: nothing for her to eat, and it's just chaos. So
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: they go outside and they walk around Long Beach and
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: they're looking at the boats and say how beautiful it is.
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: And I was like, it's Brazil is beautiful too, but
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: they seem very impressed by Long Beach. Long Beach is
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: very nice, but so is Brazil. So the brother pulls
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: Paula aside and he's like, are you happy? Are you
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: in a minimalist cult where you're not allowed to have sense? Yeah,
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: and she says, I have a calling here. I've always
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: wanted to live in the United States and I never
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: had a reason to before. And he's like, is Thomas
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: a good enough reason to do that though?
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: So?
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: Is he just like your vehicle to get to the
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: United States? And she says he's part of my life,
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: but not the center of my life. He's a gift
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: from the universe, but he's not my universe. I loved that.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: I like that. I like her, you know, I like
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: her Like he's a part of my life, but he's
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: at the center of my life, at the center, which
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: is a good way to think about it. But the
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: brothers like, so you flew all this way, you moved here. Yeah,
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: she has a super successful business in Brazil. Yes, like,
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: are this guy for him or him?
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: So the brothers like, we've noticed that you guys fight
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: a lot and it's only been half a day. And
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: she says, well, we call we bicker. They call it
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: bickering in the United States. And then it leads to
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: date lines in the United States. So he says, what
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: if it's like magical in the beginning and then you
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: realize you can't overcome your differences, And it's like, when
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: has it been magical?
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: We haven't seen in anything magically found.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: No, not even the day they arrived. They started fighting
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: right away. So he says, you have a business and
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: a life that you've built in Brazil. Is it worth
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: gambling that? And she's like time will tell, and she
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: says hearing that. She says, hearing that from my brother
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: is affecting me. And I'm not sure if I'm going
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: to say yes. And I love Thomas, but is it
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: enough to sign away a life of being happy? Which
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: the unsaid part is because I think he won't make
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: me happy.
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: Right like he will not bend on a kitchen table.
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know what I mean.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: She just wants like a nice life, and it seems
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: like she had such a nice life in Brazil. Yeah,
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: like a job she enjoyed, a space, she enjoyed, her
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: family like.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right, let's move on to Asha and Maxwell.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: So Asha and blaze sister Blaze head to a fabric store.
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: They're going to find stuff for the wedding, and when
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: they walk in, she says her colors are chocolate and white,
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: but then later she says she wants her color to
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: be red. So unclear. Blaze tells us she's a designer
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: and has a seamstress that can get this dress done
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: in forty eight hours. Wow, Blaze is a designer.
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: I could see us a hookup. Yeah she does seem
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: cool and yeah she does like well like put together.
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah she does.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: So, Asha explained to the shop ladies about the visa
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: that they got denied with that they're going to get
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: married here, so then they maybe can get them over
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: on the spousal visa. They show her the fabric. She
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: likes it, and then she's like, I see it white.
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: Of course, it's like the very top shelf. So Blaze
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: tells Asha, I have to tell you that I am
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: worried about how Maxwell is going to be treated in
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: the United States, and then she goes, Okay, listen, I
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: don't want to beat a dead horse. I hate that expression.
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Let's leave the horses alone.
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want to be a dead horse. But
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: there are benefits of being with an older woman, like wisdom.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: I've got wisdom, I am stable. I will be able
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: to help him with this transition. And Blaze says, but
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: what are what if there are things you want him
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: to do that he doesn't want to do. Do you
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: think he's just doing all these things just to please you?
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: And then she goes, yeah, could be, could be, and
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: they're not going to have Blaze says, I am concerned.
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: I like Asha as a person.
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: She was fine with that. She was like, yes, he
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: is doing everything to please me. And that's exactly.
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: How what's the problem.
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So Blaze says, I like Asha as a person,
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: but you know, Rod, her brother, has brought up that
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: he thinks Maxwell is a scammer. So I worry that
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: when Maxwell goes to the United States, that's how people
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: will treat him there.
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: She should She doesn't communicate that to Asia is going
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: to mistreat him, right, and that that's a valid concern
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: that Rod brought, So she should bring that up to Asia.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: And she says, you know, it's hard for me when
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: people are against me but they have what I want.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: Like you're married with kids and happy, but you're blocking
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: me from getting what I want. Why not help me
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: and Maxwell get what we both want. You know, before
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: the wedding, we need to be talking about joy and
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: peace and we have not had any peace. And she
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: goes and Blaze goes, Oh, you haven't had any peace.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: She says, no. It's like when Jesus was going to
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: the cross and Peter said no and Jesus said, get
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: thee behind me, Satan, you are my stumbling block. I
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: was like, I did not know that's where that came from.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: What do you say, get behind me? Satan. I didn't
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: know that.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: I have never heard get behind me, Satan, but I
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: like it. Oh I've heard not today Satan.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's the same idea, get THEE behind me, Satan.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: You are my stumbling block, Blaze.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: This was bold of her to say directly to Blaze.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: She says, Blaze, you are my third party and my
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: stumbling block. Wow, and blazeays she's done. Blay says, okay.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: So I hope he's making the right decision, and I
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: hope that you will be happy. I'm wish she knew
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: the best. And she goes, are you really and she goes, yes,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: I really am. Now I'm scared of you. She was scared.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: I think she invokes scripture. And Blaze is the type
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: that like has a big front, but maybe once you
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: confront them they back off.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and also she doesn't want to start talking
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: in tongues again, Yes, no one does.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: Nobody does.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: So when you're talking to Asia, says, I feel Rod
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: is doing his best to scare off Maxwell and his
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: whole family. But I'm not about to let that happen.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: Like she is furious now, like why did I bring
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: all these people here?
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: So was yeah, your fault. Yeah, that might not have
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: been a good idea.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: So she says, I'm going to meet Rod for dinner.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: He wanted to meet with me, so I guess he
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: just thought he could just talk to me. But then
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: he shows a with my my mom's best.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: Friend, Kathy.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: I guess they think it's safety in numbers or something.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: So he walks up and goes, how are you and
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: she goes good. He says, you're getting anxious. She goes,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: you know, just like the jitters for the wedding. And
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: then Kathy, who we haven't really heard from, is obviously
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: a very smart, astute woman because she just lays it
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: out and she says she goes because she goes, now, Kathy,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: why are you here? And Kathy goes, I don't know.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: And then she says, listen, I told Rod that I
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: love you and I want you to do what's right.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: And I don't think your mom and your sisters will
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: tell you this because they love you so much. I
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: think you're moving too fast. It seems like you've come
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: so far that you don't want to turn around. Some
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: cost fallacy exactly, that's what she's saying. She says, I
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: think you should give yourself a little more time to
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: think this over. You need to get to know him more.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: You need to get to know his family anymore. You
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: can't just get to know someone over the phone. And
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: I love you and I want you to take your time,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: and that is why I'm here. So she explained it
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: very well, and I think her saying, your mom and
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: your sisters won't say this to you. Yeah, And so
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: she says to Rod, well, you're over there quite actually,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: like a bump on a log, So what's your problem?
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: And Rod goes, well, I came all the way here
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: to meet him. Will you value my opinion?
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: Will you?
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: And she goes, hmm, okay, yes I will. She had
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: to think about it. No, but he says, basically, I
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: think Maxwell has a lot of challenges ahead of him
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: in the United States, like his resume, Like it's like
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: a newborn baby in the United States. It's already hard
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: to get a job, and we don't even know if
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: he can eventually come to the US. And and she goes, well, Rod, like,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: you know how, in your profession, like in anybody's profession,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: you interview and hire people based on other people's record. Monday,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: she was like you might say I got a friend,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: I got a son, he's a good worker. Will you
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: talk to him? And then you would talk to that person,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: do him a favor. And he goes, oh, you're saying
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: you have those connects. And she goes, I'm looking at
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: the connect.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: You're my connect.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: He goes, what I'm supposed to give him my top?
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: What I was dying? I was dying, so he goes.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: He goes, no, I don't know about that. Now. He goes, now, listen,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying you need to give this some more
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: time and wait, and she says I'm not waiting. And
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: he goes, are you that desperate to have somebody else's
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: last name? And she goes what And he goes, I
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: just want you taken care of and you deserve better.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: And she goes, wow, wow, wow, Okay, that's something right there. Now,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: okay okay, And he says, I want the best for you.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: And she says, we have made the commitment to get married,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: so whether it's now or later, we are committed to
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: each other and getting married.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: And he says, I mean just because you said it to him,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: you have to do it six months from now.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: I mean that's not exactly true, you know right. So
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: he says, hmmm, so what if I don't come to
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: the wedding? What if I change my ticket to leave tomorrow?
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: Would that be okay with you? And she goes, what
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: do you mean?
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: And in her talking head, she says, I am so
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: hurt that he's doing this. He is trying to get
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: me to choose. It's making me so mad. I supported
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: Rod in everything in his life and he can't give
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: me the same respect.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: I want to know what Rod's relationship history is, like,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: does he have any crazy, like weird relationships that she
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: is sat through.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and she's like, don't make me bring up that
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: ex girlfriend you had. Yeah, exactly, you.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: Were on love after lock up. But you got right.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: She says, Rod, you are for me or against me?
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: And I feel like y'all have sat at this table
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: and tried to find every reason for me to prolog this.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: And he says, you need to POSTPONN. I heard that
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: I rewound, postpond postpone, postponn and and she says, I
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: am not postponing anything. She says, and he goes, why not.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: She goes, I've already told you every month I am
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: losing an egg and I am not getting any younger.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: And he goes, she.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: Should have been. That's our answer to if she's been.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: We did wonder has she been freezing her eggs? And
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: she should have been she could afford it.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: And he says, oh, so this is what this is about.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: You want to get knocked up? And I don't think
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: that's a nice way to say that.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: No, and she says Jesus is listening.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: That's right. Jesus would not approve of that language. She goes,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: oh no, no, I am not ready to get knocked up.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: He says, that's just what she told me and slammed
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: his hand on the table, and he says, I wish
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: you would turn around and hear yourself. She grabs her
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: birthdays down and goes, oh no, no, oh no, I
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: know you did not just lam your hands on the table.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: Oh no, baby, that is the one thing I do
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: not do. I do not do violence. She walks right
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: out of the restaurant.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: She's done just for her.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: Fuck you people.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, a few people that I made get a
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: yellow fever vaccine and fly for twenty six hours here.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so we're going to end with our favorite alcoholic.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: It's cat huh and possibly Josh, who we find out
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: got drunk, blackout, drunk by himself.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: You know what, Let him, let him.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: He deserves it.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: He deserves it. Notice that when he gets drunk, he's
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: celebrating that Katie is out of the apartment. When she
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: gets drunk. It's just every day. But the only time
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: he gets drunk is when she's not there. I don't
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: know what that says.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: He doesn't feel safe getting drunk around.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: Her, to be on an alert. Yeah, wake up.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: With something stuck in his butt.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: You didn't know yep, that used vibrator that had stains
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: on it. So they are biking around town and for
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: a change, he's hungover. And she was at her bachelor
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: atte party, the death party the night before, and she says,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: I followed all the rules, which were, don't make out
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: with anyone, don't ask to make out with anyone, don't
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: throw up except in the road, and have fun. Wasn't
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: the rule don't throw up in the road?
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: I think the rule was don't get blackout drunk, don't
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: make out with anybody, don't throw up in the road.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: Correct, So she is there were only three rules she
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: got one of them wrong. She thinks it's only throw
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: up in the road. Ever heard of a toilet? So
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: she just do, just do. She just couldn't even get
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: it right. There were only three. So she was so proud,
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: so proud, so proud, so proud. So they set out
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: a picnic, and she wants to bring up the open
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: relationship and she says, if he says no, he'll be
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: the only person I'll be with the rest of my life.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: And that's a crazy commitment. And I didn't realize getting
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: married was making such a crazy commitment, I guess. So
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: she tells him how proud she is for following the rules,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: and she says, it's nice to not have to call
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: anyone to apologize the next day or to ask what
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: happened because you don't remember good And I think that's
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: a great That probably is a great feeling. So again,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: you might need some sort of rehab or just.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: Stubby.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So she he says, I was expecting her to
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: make out with someone, So I'm very relieved and I
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: feel like I I can trust her more. And it
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: now really seems like she wants to get married.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: From one night, not taking out with somebody.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: One night, and then he so he's going to be
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: happy for like thirty seconds and then she's going to
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: ruin it with this conversation. So he got drunk last
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: night because he was watching the news and he got
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: very upset. He was watching ice and immigrants, American citizens
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: and immigrants being detained, and he's like, I'm trying to
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: follow the rules, and I'm still very scared. Every day
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: I wake up and I'm thinking, is this the day
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: I'll be, you know, rounded up? And even though I'm
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: here legally on a visa, and it's so sad. He's British,
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: which is not typically what they're looking for. But he's
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: also not white, correct, and that's key.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: So that's what he's scared of.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that he.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: Has every reason to be scared. And as he's expressing
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: this and she's like, oh, I feel so bad for him.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: She is shoving crackers in her mouth. Huh, this is
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: how she eats.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: You guys, can really shoving tissues in her mouth?
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, I've never seen She's like a toddler.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: It's like she misses her mouth each time, like she's
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: just something what's going on, She's just something's not right
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: with her. And something's not right.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: Maybe we'll find out one day what it actually is.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and like eating with her mouth open mouth always,
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: the food is falling out like always, Like she's not
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: taking appropriate sized bites. There's all of this is true.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: All of this is true.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's sign her up for an etiquette class with
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: that that lady from Ladies of London.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: Oh, so.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: She says it's He says it's weighing on me very heavily,
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: that I don't feel welcome or safe in America, And
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: she says she feels bad for him. She goes, I
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: feel really bad for Josh. But he's bringing this up
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: at the worst time because I really wanted to talk
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: about an open marriage today.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you think this is a bad time. He's worried
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: about ice agents taking him down.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: Do you think that I want to sleep around? Which
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: she is ruining me, wanting to step my tongue in
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: people's mouths God against their will, Thanks lies, thanks lies,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: ruined another picnic. So she starts off really nice and
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: she's like, how can I make you feel more comfortable
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: and welcome? And he says, wow, that is so nice
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: of you to ask. I'm because he's shocked because she
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: never shows any sort of She never asked how he's doing,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: She never hasked to try to make his life easier.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: We were shocked at Easter when she says, or anything
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: I could do to help you, we were like whoa.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: He was shocked too, Yes, like we were whoa.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: So it's it's working. She's done it twice now she
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: has asked a normal question that you would ask if
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: you were a loving partner.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: So he says, well, I feel really welcome with you.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: I feel like we can be open with each other
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: and tell each other, you know, what we're how we're feeling,
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: And that's really good that we have a space, safe
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: space like that. And she's like, speaking of open, do
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: you ever think that you're Do you ever feel scared
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: of feeling restricted by not having new experiences in marriage?
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: Like now, I'm fine, but will I feel fine in
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: five years? Like what if in five years I want
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: to make out with someone? Because I really love the
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: chase of forcing people to tongue kiss me without their permission.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: I love that feeling when they put their hands in
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: my face to keep me from assaulting them.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: Katie, I don't want it, No.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: No, it's just an opening line. And it's like, I
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: feel like I can get there if I just use
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: enough force and my upper body strength, and I just
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: can make it happen. I love that chase, So what
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: if I want to do that chase in five years?
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: And he says, tells us, I'm done with this. I
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: cannot believe she's saying this, like maybe the signs were
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: always there that she wasn't actually wanting to be in
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: her marriage with me. Yes they were, Yes, that they were, Josh,
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: if she's asking me for an open marriage, the answer
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: will be no, I'm totally blindsided. Which why why are
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: you blindsided?
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: God blass?
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so he says, so you're saying very polite. So
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: what I'm hearing you say is you're not sure about monogamy.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: And she's like, well, I just don't want to close
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: off all my experiences. And he says, well, you know
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: we're not in an open relationship. That's not what I
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: signed up for. And we're supposed to be getting married
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: in four weeks, so why are we even doing this
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: any of this? And which, again, Josh, she never really
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: wanted you to come. This visa thing was all your idea,
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: you just this. So she says, I'm saying goodbye to
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: all my single life freedom, which is awesome because like
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: we're building a new life and that's what you're supposed
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: to do. But I will really want I still want
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: to have new experiences. How will I have new experiences?
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: She has, I think some like ADHD this is something
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: like I know people like this who constantly want to
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: like be moving, changing jobs like something. So everything needs
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: to be chaos, and in movement, you can't be stagnant.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: So she she can't keep trying, like she'll be like
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: trying to be in a monogamous relationship, but be like
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna try diamond painting, then knitting, then crocheting new hobbies.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: That's not giving me the thrill I'm looking for. Maybe
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to literally change a job or change
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: apartments every two months. So that which is why she
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: was a perfect travel pet sitter. So she's right, yes, totally, yes,
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: move around constantly. So she says, I want to have
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: new experiences, and he says, well, I just feel like
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: I've had my fun in life and now it's time
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: to have a home and children and settle down. I
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: like being monogamous, and she says, is it like a
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: firm no, And he says, I'm not getting married to
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: be in an open relationship. And she says, what if
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: I miss the chase and want to make out in
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: the future, Like, what do we do? And he says
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: he's had a loss for words. He says, it kind
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: of feels like you're giving me the middle finger because
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: I've moved my whole life here and you're telling me this.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: And he tells us, I can't say in the future
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: I'll be up for X, Y and Z, because I can't.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: It's the future, so I don't know what I'll be
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: up for in the future. But I can't stay here
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: past my visa, so we have to make a decision.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: But I can't get married if it's the wrong thing
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: to do. So his whole life is now up in fucks.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, if somebody says to you, I really want
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: to have an open relationship and you say no, well,
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: now you're just sitting around waiting for them to cheat
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: on you. Exactly it's gonna happen. It's gonna happen. So
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: now you're just sitting around. And they warned you it
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: was gonna happen.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: Because she's already cheated on him, like in front of him,
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: in front of him, yes, in front of him, and
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: now she's telling him she it's not sure that she'll
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: be monogamous always, so yeah, what do you do? You
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: can't get me?
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: But here he's constantly posting. So next time on Josh's
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: parents arrive in the United States for the blessed event.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: We're so excited and they sit outside and chat with
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: Katie's parents and they said, oh, have you worked on
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: your vowels? And Katie goes, I vow to not get
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: other lovers. I'm gonna try really hard. Everybody just looks
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: at her, like what, I vow not to get other lovers.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna try really hard.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: She says this in front of his parents and her
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: super religious parents. Yeah, who's who hate her?
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: They are so mad that they are back.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 3: They're like, God, you're goming back home for the wedding.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: Shit. We see Paula try on a wedding dress and
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: they're all like, look at this. She looks so beautiful,
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: and she's like, I know that, like I look great
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: or it looks one way, but I'm really not comfortable. Here,
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: you know. Uh, Annabelle meets with Shay's daughter, Madison, the
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: daughter that he had with Nicole, the one that I
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: read you the stuff from last week, So that'll be interesting. Yeah,
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: Madison has heard a lot about Annabelle from Nicole, of course,
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: and I was hoping.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: This was a matt Sharp fake out in the editing,
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: like it looks like she's going to tell Annabelle off,
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: but maybe she'll be.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: Like, I understand my mom's the nightmare, you know, yeah.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: Exactly, except my mom's crazy. And I know Shaye is
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: super shady, so like, I'm on your side, girl.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I look forward to you being my stepmom.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: Right, take me away from my mom please?
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 3: And did you have still had that extra room? Can
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 3: I stay here?
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Mallory talks to Rosh and he says, if you
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: don't want to have a baby, we will break up,
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: and I believe. So there's that. Debbie tells Medow I
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: can't imagine getting married without Cayden, and he's literally in
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: his under I practice.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: And he's like, what, so you say I saw that
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: Brad pitt uses. Yes, the Hollywood stars used these hyge patches.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: I found these in the refrigerators, that what you're supposed
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: to do with them. So Marissa says she was going
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: to tell Edward she is excited now about getting married
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: to him, but now they had a fight. She doesn't
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: know how to get that feeling back of happiness and she's.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 3: Crying about it.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: That's it. We had no Mallory this week, no Shay
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: this week, but we're getting them back next week, so
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: that's good.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what a ride?
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: What a ride? And we don't have Kimberly's Corner because
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: no diaries, but just programming notes for everybody.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 3: Monday's Keisha and I are doing Agent.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: Appropriate because that is what is replaced love after lock
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: up for now, and Kimberly and I are covering double
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: Lives of Suburban Wives. It was on the Free Feed
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: this week. It'll go to ten dollars Pink Shape Prime
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: for next week. I gotta say, the more I've thought
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: about it, and I watched it again because it came
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: on last night after ninety day and I was like, Okay.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 3: This is a good show.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: I'm excited.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 3: It's a good show again.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: My husband came in the room and they it was
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: the scene that I put the reel out about about
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: they were at the shop and they went in the bathroom,
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: were like, check in the room, and Dave was like,
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: what is going on?
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 3: I got their only fans creators.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: He goes, huh, I just forget it because he left
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: when we went to I went to dinner with the
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: kids the other night, and I'm going to tell you
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: about this on the show. We I just started to
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: ask the kids like this, telling them about the concept
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: of the show, and John said flat out he would
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: never speak to me again ever if I did it,
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: And it goes, what if I did it? He was
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: never speaks to you again either, And it's like, what
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: if we did mother daughter content?
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 3: He's like, oh my god.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: Then David left because he had to go get home
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: to get on a call, so the kids and I
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: were still sitting to get in her. I was like, oh,
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: I forgot you missed that whole conversation. But it is
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: very interesting when you watch it of how how into
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: it the husbands are. Very That's the weird part to me.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: Also on age and appropriate, there's a couple with only
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: fans and it's very dramatic and yeah, and so I'm like,
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: only fans is really just we would have almost no
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: reality shows anymore without only fans.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: Love after long we hey that girl doing lonely fans.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: Last Resort Carara, Last Resort Carara.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: Now these two shows, yep, mm hmm. We got four
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: shows right now with only fans.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Story, and there's going to be a show that's
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: just well, I guess this show secret. Yeah, Double Lives
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: of Secret Suburban sexy Wives. I forgot what it's called.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know Double Lives Sexy Wives, but I will
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: say that. Kristen, our social media manager, put out a
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: reel from our episode, and she when it said only
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: fans every time, it's like weep. I was like, oh,
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: I guess. I guess only fans is something you can't say.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: Oh interesting, it must be a TikTok thing because she
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: does it for both. I haven't put anything on TikTok
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: in weeks. I gotta get it, got to get over there.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: I gotta get over to TikTok. I always forget about it.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: I know. Sorry, Sorry TikTokers.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 1:23:25
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• 1:23:29
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• 1:23:36
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• 1:23:39
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• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: and Katie you're on the TikTok as well at Date Dayline.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: I know that's where you an.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: If you watch one of our last episodes, you'll see
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: the only fans account that my dad is starting. That
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: is for Ralphie's toe beans and it is so it's
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: dog paw OnlyFans, which he got the idea from Courtney
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: on ninety Day Diaries doing her foot OnlyFans. Yeah, he
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: thinks there's a market for it. It's gotten me thinking,
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: are there any body parts that I could do without
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: showing my face?
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: Well? How are your feet? You would go on a
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: wiki feet?
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: They're not that great?
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: Why don't either? I think it doesn't matter.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe it did, because none of these people are
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: like the most gorgeous, most perfect thing I've ever seen.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: Although double lives, they make money by just like wearing
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: a pair of underwear for three hours. Yeah, and then
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: that then the husband vacuum seals it and sends it off.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: I'd rather send a jar of my farts.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: Oh no, thank you, no, thank you. Let us know
• 1:24:46
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure things I don't know if she was doing
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  Speaker 1: I don't like it. I don't like it. And if
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  Speaker 1: you don't like my hair, I'm sorry. I am clean
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  Speaker 2: All Right, thank you, look gorgeous.
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  Speaker 1: Well, thank you, Okay, bye bye