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- 0:30Speaker 2: from every angle. It's Rugby Direct with Elliott Smith and
- 0:34Speaker 2: Liam Napier powered by News Talks EDB.
- 0:37Speaker 3: Welcome into Rugby Direct powered by four Klip Solutions, lifting
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- 0:43Speaker 3: in to Perth.
- 0:45Speaker 4: On a stinking hot twenty eight.
- 0:47Speaker 3: Degree afternoon day in Perth, Elliott Smith with me Liam Napier,
- 0:53Speaker 3: and we've got the All Blacks team and the Wallaby's
- 0:55Speaker 3: team for this weekend's second Blitterslow Cup match Rugby Championship
- 0:59Speaker 3: Test of course as well and Liam some bold calls
- 1:03Speaker 3: from the All Blacks in terms of their selection this week.
- 1:07Speaker 3: I'm sure Alliston will have seen that squad by now,
- 1:09Speaker 3: but what stood out to you?
- 1:11Speaker 5: I think Scott Robinson Senior has been punctuated by conservatism
- 1:15Speaker 5: largely when it's come to selection. So I think this
- 1:19Speaker 5: selection has caught most people by surprise, particularly Quinte Pie
- 1:23Speaker 5: and Peter Luckeye. I think most people probably expected lessifying
- 1:28Speaker 5: the Nook who maybe Riekawa and he's come on the
- 1:30Speaker 5: right on the left wing with Caleb Clark injured. But
- 1:35Speaker 5: and the enforced injury changes make sense. But Quintepire at center, Oh,
- 1:40Speaker 5: I don't think anyone saw that coming. You mentioned to
- 1:43Speaker 5: me the fact that he's played one game at center
- 1:47Speaker 5: for the Chiefs five years ago, and so yeah, he's
- 1:52Speaker 5: been really good off the bench, strong directs, rarely got
- 1:56Speaker 5: the all Blacks on the front foot. He came on
- 1:59Speaker 5: last week Eden Park and played wing. But center is
- 2:03Speaker 5: another kettle of fish all together, particularly from a defensive
- 2:06Speaker 5: point of view, and particularly when you're up against the
- 2:08Speaker 5: guy like Joseph Suili.
- 2:10Speaker 3: Yeah, and I thought Billy Procter look was struggling see
- 2:13Speaker 3: him on attack, but I think we've seen him defensively wise,
- 2:16Speaker 3: he wrapped up Ikeito and saw let you really well.
- 2:19Speaker 3: Speaking to our colleague Jamie Panderm from the Daily Telegraph,
- 2:21Speaker 3: he was very impressed by what Billy Proctor was able
- 2:24Speaker 3: to do in terms of shutting those players down last week.
- 2:27Speaker 3: Now to pay who has had very little time at center,
- 2:30Speaker 3: certainly in recent years, is being asked to come and
- 2:32Speaker 3: do it again in a role that Proctor fulfilled well
- 2:35Speaker 3: last week. I guess on the flip side, Scott Robinson
- 2:38Speaker 3: has stuck with Proctor through a number of Test matches.
- 2:42Speaker 3: He did say that he looked a bit fatigued. He
- 2:44Speaker 3: played seven matches out of eight this year. But you
- 2:48Speaker 3: know there's one more match to go than there's a
- 2:49Speaker 3: bit of a break before the end of year tours,
- 2:51Speaker 3: so they could have stuck with him.
- 2:52Speaker 4: They decided not to. They've gone in a different direction.
- 2:55Speaker 3: Do you think this signals perhaps the start of a
- 2:58Speaker 3: different midfield combination. We've seen Yuanni and Barrett, we've seen
- 3:03Speaker 3: now Proctor and Barrett. Potentially this is mark three of
- 3:07Speaker 3: trying to get it working under Scott Robinson.
- 3:09Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 3:09Speaker 5: I think it certainly shows that the All Blacks aren't
- 3:11Speaker 5: happy with their midfield. They're not getting what they want.
- 3:14Speaker 5: I think you're right that Billy's been very good defensively,
- 3:16Speaker 5: but we haven't seen enough from him on attack. He
- 3:19Speaker 5: hasn't brought that footwork, the ability to beat a man
- 3:24Speaker 5: and that notable distribution skills that we saw consistently for
- 3:28Speaker 5: the Hurricanes into the Test game. They've given him every chance.
- 3:33Speaker 5: I guess most people probably thought we'd see Leicester at center,
- 3:37Speaker 5: but because of Caleb Clark's injury that's come on the
- 3:40Speaker 5: left wing, so I think we will see Lester finding
- 3:42Speaker 5: a nooker at some point at center. But clearly the
- 3:45Speaker 5: All Blacks are searching for more from their midfield, aren't they.
- 3:50Speaker 5: And the All Black's attack hasn't been fluent this year.
- 3:53Speaker 5: It was probably at its best at times at Eden Park.
- 3:57Speaker 5: But I think Quinter Pyre's performance is there. His ability
- 4:02Speaker 5: to break tackles get over the game line. It's very powerful,
- 4:06Speaker 5: isn't it with Jordy and Quinn, But they haven't had
- 4:09Speaker 5: a line a lot of time together and I think
- 4:13Speaker 5: they will be challenged defensively.
- 4:15Speaker 3: Indeed, the interesting other selection from the run on team
- 4:18Speaker 3: that wasn't injury related as Peter Luckeye coming in at
- 4:22Speaker 3: number eight first Test start. Satiiti probably hasn't hit or
- 4:26Speaker 3: definitely I don't think he hasn't hit the heights of
- 4:27Speaker 3: what we saw last year that got him to the
- 4:29Speaker 3: World Rugby Breakthrough Player of the Year awards and All
- 4:32Speaker 3: Blacks Player of the Year. But still a surprise to
- 4:36Speaker 3: me that they're gone for Luckeye. But I don't mind
- 4:37Speaker 3: them move at all. We saw him come up for
- 4:39Speaker 3: the bench last week he was able to bend a
- 4:40Speaker 3: line strong carrier. It's an opportunity for Peter Luckeye and
- 4:45Speaker 3: perhaps you know it comes a little bit of surprise,
- 4:48Speaker 3: but I mentioned to see how he goes against this
- 4:50Speaker 3: Wallaby's really big, strong pack that played really well last week.
- 4:54Speaker 5: I think you're right in that it probably says more
- 4:56Speaker 5: about what we've seen from Wallace than what we've seen
- 4:59Speaker 5: from Peter Luckeye because Lucky played what like twenty five
- 5:02Speaker 5: twenty minutes off the bench at Eden Park and was
- 5:05Speaker 5: good last week. But I think it is a surprise
- 5:09Speaker 5: to seem injected, not only to start at at number eight,
- 5:13Speaker 5: because he's a guy that can play seven, has played
- 5:16Speaker 5: seven for the All Blacks. This is his first start.
- 5:20Speaker 5: I really like Peter Lucky. I don't think he was
- 5:23Speaker 5: at his best for the Hurricanes this year, but he's
- 5:25Speaker 5: one of the most dynamic, powerful ball carriers in New
- 5:28Speaker 5: Zealand rugby and I think when you take a step
- 5:31Speaker 5: back these selections. Scott robertson his thinking for this week
- 5:35Speaker 5: is maybe he's sensing sensing his squads running out of
- 5:38Speaker 5: juice a bit and on the back of back to
- 5:42Speaker 5: back games in Argentina back to back games against the
- 5:46Speaker 5: World champions Spring Box and then coming over to Perth
- 5:49Speaker 5: straight off the bat after Eden Park. I think we're
- 5:52Speaker 5: seeing him wanting to inject some freshness and we're seeing
- 5:56Speaker 5: that with Peter Luckeye, with Quinta Pia and a couple
- 5:59Speaker 5: of others. So I'm not going to sit here and
- 6:04Speaker 5: criticize him. I think it is risky because the All Blacks.
- 6:07Speaker 5: The overarching thie here is that they're trying to get
- 6:09Speaker 5: their consistency as well. They haven't put back to back
- 6:11Speaker 5: performances together, so there's a bit of upside, but there's
- 6:14Speaker 5: a lot of risk, so potentially rolling the dice. But
- 6:20Speaker 5: we have seen other teams, notably the Springboks, rotate throughout
- 6:23Speaker 5: this Rugby Championship, and I think the All Blacks are
- 6:26Speaker 5: potentially trying to take a bit of a leaf from
- 6:28Speaker 5: their book and find out about some players while still winning.
- 6:33Speaker 5: But it's not easy to do.
- 6:34Speaker 4: No, it's not.
- 6:35Speaker 3: Some of those injury enforced changes as well, with Boden
- 6:39Speaker 3: Barrett dropping out, Ethan Degree dropping out, Calder Clark dropping out,
- 6:42Speaker 3: so the what's seven changes all up to the team.
- 6:45Speaker 4: It's kind of gone under the road.
- 6:46Speaker 3: But to Roll Lomax as well with his broken thumb,
- 6:48Speaker 3: sounds like his year may be over. Potentially he's going
- 6:52Speaker 3: to get see a specialist on Monday. So the change
- 6:56Speaker 3: but doesn't feel like change for change take necessarily. There
- 6:59Speaker 3: is a boldness to the team, but you know there
- 7:02Speaker 3: could be some answers that come in the form of
- 7:04Speaker 3: you know that to pious selection at midfield, maybe larkyet
- 7:07Speaker 3: number eight, that could set the All Blacks up for
- 7:09Speaker 3: that end of your tour.
- 7:10Speaker 5: Yeah, and think, as much as anything else, it's about
- 7:14Speaker 5: developing depth, developing options. You think about Peter Luckeye or
- 7:18Speaker 5: Wallace Teti could start, and Quinte Pier or Lester Faning
- 7:23Speaker 5: and Nuku could start in the midfield. They've played Billy
- 7:26Speaker 5: Procter there, Rika Wine comes back for a wee bit
- 7:30Speaker 5: of a chance off the bench. So Robertson's all about
- 7:33Speaker 5: this four four four, developing depth and options and creating
- 7:37Speaker 5: competition within the squad. But for me, at this point,
- 7:41Speaker 5: it's almost more important that the All Blacks win and
- 7:45Speaker 5: show some form of conviction because yeah, they want to
- 7:47Speaker 5: eat in park. Last week, but it wasn't convincing. It
- 7:50Speaker 5: was patchy. They blew a seventeen point lead in the
- 7:52Speaker 5: first half. The Wallabies came within two in the second half.
- 7:56Speaker 5: The Wallabies are vastly stronger, you'd argue this week with
- 7:59Speaker 5: some of the guys they're getting back there on home soil.
- 8:02Speaker 5: There's still a lot to play for the RUGBA Championship title,
- 8:04Speaker 5: so I'm a little bit surprised with that context the
- 8:09Speaker 5: amount of changes. Some of them are injury and forced.
- 8:11Speaker 5: But then again, when else do the All Blacks have
- 8:16Speaker 5: the freedom to rotate this year?
- 8:18Speaker 3: They don't really and maybe this is the best option
- 8:20Speaker 3: that hey Bletterslow Cup safe Rugby Championship. Yes, still a possibility,
- 8:25Speaker 3: but it's probably unlikely. So while you never want to lose,
- 8:29Speaker 3: and again if they lose, it's you know, when lost,
- 8:31Speaker 3: when lost, when lost in the last six, it presents
- 8:34Speaker 3: maybe is their best option, barring maybe the Wales test
- 8:38Speaker 3: right at the end of the year to have a
- 8:40Speaker 3: look at some players and set themselves up for that
- 8:43Speaker 3: end of year too. You mentioned Australia, there will Skelton
- 8:45Speaker 3: back in the mix for them this week. Rob Valatini
- 8:48Speaker 3: surprisingly comes off the bench, but Hoop I thought played
- 8:51Speaker 3: very very well last week against the All Blacks and
- 8:53Speaker 3: Tain't admit at ten as well, North Harbour's finest skidding
- 8:57Speaker 3: the selection. There is this a better Wolaby's team than
- 9:02Speaker 3: the one last week? You just said that you think
- 9:04Speaker 3: it might be.
- 9:04Speaker 5: On the whole, Yes, but I think the All Blacks
- 9:06Speaker 5: will target Taine at ten. I think he has some deficiencies.
- 9:11Speaker 5: He's a very attacking minded player. He will take risks.
- 9:14Speaker 5: But just like the Wallabies will send Will Skelton down
- 9:19Speaker 5: Damien McKenzie's channel, the All Blacks will do likewise detained.
- 9:22Speaker 5: So I think vastly strength and forward pack with Skelton
- 9:26Speaker 5: in there. He'll bring the niggle, he bring the physicality.
- 9:28Speaker 5: He will challenge the Your Blacks more, just like he
- 9:31Speaker 5: did in the British and Irish Lions series. It's a shame,
- 9:34Speaker 5: isn't it that he wasn't available for the whole of
- 9:36Speaker 5: the Rugby Championship. I think Jake Gordon coming into halfback,
- 9:41Speaker 5: you'll see the Wallaby's pepper the All Blacks back three
- 9:44Speaker 5: with high ball kicks. Slightly surprised that Nick White is
- 9:47Speaker 5: not involved. He's a real agitator. He's got under team's
- 9:51Speaker 5: skins in recent times but he is meant to be retired,
- 9:54Speaker 5: so they look into the future there James Slipper's last test,
- 9:59Speaker 5: Mike Cron's last test. How much does that factor into
- 10:02Speaker 5: the occasion for the Wallabies.
- 10:04Speaker 4: I think it does.
- 10:05Speaker 3: I mean James Slipper has been a consistent force in
- 10:09Speaker 3: that team for fifteen years. You know, he's been there
- 10:12Speaker 3: through some really low points for the Wallabies. He's been
- 10:15Speaker 3: there through some of the highs that they head over
- 10:17Speaker 3: the last fifteen years, you know, World Cup finals and
- 10:19Speaker 3: all that sort of thing that he's been there and
- 10:22Speaker 3: you know, I think he's what third highest all time
- 10:25Speaker 3: test cap number speaks to you know, what the Australians
- 10:30Speaker 3: have got out of him over eight years and real
- 10:31Speaker 3: leader captain this team at points as well. So it'll
- 10:35Speaker 3: be an emotional farewell. Don't know that it'll play too
- 10:39Speaker 3: much into proceedings necessarily, but if they weren't, then they
- 10:42Speaker 3: can obviously dedicate it to him and he goes out
- 10:45Speaker 3: a high in a career that has been of you know,
- 10:48Speaker 3: some real highs and some pretty unfortunate lows as well
- 10:51Speaker 3: for you know, the Wallabies during this time.
- 10:54Speaker 4: One other thing for before we wrap up, are.
- 10:57Speaker 3: Through sixty this week supposedly got the green light to
- 11:00Speaker 3: go aheads. From a New Zealand perspective, it feels like
- 11:04Speaker 3: we're on the outside looking in on that story. It
- 11:07Speaker 3: doesn't feel like it's a really reached New Zealand too much.
- 11:10Speaker 3: Scott Robinson said today at the media conference that you
- 11:13Speaker 3: know all their best players, all the players that want
- 11:15Speaker 3: locked away. Feels like very much like an Australian England
- 11:19Speaker 3: story around NRL players and English rugby players potentially committing
- 11:24Speaker 3: to this venture. But it sounds like it's getting off
- 11:27Speaker 3: the ground. How do you think it's going to play internationally?
- 11:29Speaker 3: Because Will Rugby still haven't signed it off.
- 11:32Speaker 5: I think there'll be a lot of nerves out there
- 11:34Speaker 5: from national unions, not necessarily from New Zealand's point of view.
- 11:38Speaker 4: At this point.
- 11:39Speaker 5: I'm hearing friends Super rugby players are perhaps interested, but
- 11:44Speaker 5: it is a big story in Australia because they're targeting
- 11:46Speaker 5: NRL players Ryan Pappenhaus and Zach Lomax. Apparently Jay Gray
- 11:51Speaker 5: from this South Sydney rabbito has been off for two
- 11:54Speaker 5: point four million. Three sixty have gone down from eight
- 11:58Speaker 5: to six teams for their original launch. But I'm hearing
- 12:02Speaker 5: they've got a budget per team of something like fifteen
- 12:06Speaker 5: million US, so a lot of cash to throw around.
- 12:09Speaker 5: I'm not too sure where that's coming from and where
- 12:11Speaker 5: they're going to get their players from. But look at
- 12:15Speaker 5: this point, players who go to that tournament I think
- 12:18Speaker 5: are not eligible to play test rugby. So from an
- 12:22Speaker 5: All Blacks point of view, I don't think they'll be
- 12:25Speaker 5: too worried, but there's certainly a watching brief and look,
- 12:28Speaker 5: if they get off the ground and they get some momentum,
- 12:31Speaker 5: I think there is a real chance that fringe All
- 12:34Speaker 5: Blacks guys not in the starting team could look to
- 12:36Speaker 5: cash out post World Cup or even pre World Cup
- 12:42Speaker 5: if they find that they're not in the mix.
- 12:45Speaker 3: Yeah, I think with New Zealand rugby we've kind of
- 12:48Speaker 3: dealt with this prior.
- 12:49Speaker 4: Ever, you know, for rugby Australia not easier in rugby.
- 12:53Speaker 3: For the NRL, they're a competition that is bound by
- 12:55Speaker 3: a salary cap, and so when you have clubs coming in,
- 12:59Speaker 3: organizations coming through and going we can pay you X
- 13:02Speaker 3: number of dollars, this is your absolute cap that you'll
- 13:05Speaker 3: ever get paid in the NRL, then of course it's
- 13:07Speaker 3: going to be attractive, but I think in rugby, you know,
- 13:09Speaker 3: you used to players being signed up for big money
- 13:12Speaker 3: for Japan, for France and those sort of things. For
- 13:16Speaker 3: Rugby Australia, look doesn't sound like they're going to give
- 13:19Speaker 3: it their seal of approval, even though or World Rugby
- 13:22Speaker 3: is also not as well, even though they said players
- 13:24Speaker 3: can be available, will be available for test windows, but
- 13:27Speaker 3: for Rugby Australia they've probably got to toe the line.
- 13:30Speaker 4: But it could be a game changer for them.
- 13:31Speaker 3: You know, if they can get Ryan Pappenhaus and Zach
- 13:34Speaker 3: Lomax into their selection mix for the Wallabies, they're only
- 13:38Speaker 3: playing paying assembly fees or test match fees, et cetera,
- 13:41Speaker 3: rather than having to pay the fees that are dictator
- 13:45Speaker 3: or salaries that are dictated to these players. Are three
- 13:47Speaker 3: six is looking after them. That could change the complexion
- 13:50Speaker 3: of the Wallabies overnight, if they were indeed eligible.
- 13:54Speaker 5: I saw a clip from for War talking about Marky
- 13:57Speaker 5: Mark from the Roosters coming back to rugby union and
- 14:02Speaker 5: how they're willing to be creative. How basically that is
- 14:06Speaker 5: not going to play super rugby. Prior to playing for
- 14:08Speaker 5: the Wallabies in the twenty twenty seven home World Cup.
- 14:12Speaker 5: So what's the difference between him and a Zach Lomax,
- 14:16Speaker 5: who's a similar athlete, brilliant in the air, great goalkicker,
- 14:20Speaker 5: and if he's playing rugby union, why would you not
- 14:24Speaker 5: select him because you can select players from overseas. So
- 14:28Speaker 5: I think it's a very valid point. And look, the
- 14:31Speaker 5: Wallabies need the best team possible for a home World
- 14:35Speaker 5: Cup and a lot of those guys could feature very prominently.
- 14:39Speaker 4: And we've seen it before.
- 14:40Speaker 5: We're at a home World Cup with Wendell's Sailor and
- 14:44Speaker 5: Matt Rodgers, Lottie Takiri, those guys were very much front
- 14:47Speaker 5: and center of that Wallaby's team.
- 14:50Speaker 4: Yeah, so watch the space on that.
- 14:51Speaker 3: But yeah, three sixty going full steam ahead, So look
- 14:55Speaker 3: forward to the Dubai Desert. Worry is against the London
- 14:59Speaker 3: Lizards coming near you. You can book a paper view now, limb.
- 15:04Speaker 5: Yes, and in Challah because that's probably where the money's
- 15:08Speaker 5: coming from.
- 15:11Speaker 3: Indeed, right on that note. Earlier in the week, we
- 15:13Speaker 3: caught up with All Black's assistant coach Jason Holland to
- 15:16Speaker 3: get an idea of some of the themes and work
- 15:19Speaker 3: on that they've been looking at this week. As we
- 15:21Speaker 3: count down to Perth. So let's hear that interview now
- 15:24Speaker 3: before we wrap up.
- 15:25Speaker 6: Yeah, that's been good obviously.
- 15:27Speaker 7: Yeah, you finished a Test match on a Saturday Saturday
- 15:29Speaker 7: night and you get on the plane on Sunday and
- 15:32Speaker 7: as coaches sort of get the work done on the
- 15:35Speaker 7: plane over here and you enjoy up Monday morning. So
- 15:37Speaker 7: it's it's good that way, you know, just roll into.
- 15:39Speaker 6: It and boy's been good.
- 15:40Speaker 7: Trevored well on get out of your Sunday night and
- 15:44Speaker 7: review Monday morning and into a couple of days.
- 15:46Speaker 6: So that's been it's been a good couple of days.
- 15:49Speaker 3: There's a lot matter of the review after South African
- 15:51Speaker 3: Test and Wellingston.
- 15:51Speaker 4: What was the sorting like and what to tell you?
- 15:54Speaker 7: Yeah, I think the review was that was pretty pretty similar.
- 15:59Speaker 7: There was obviously some different themes around it. We're pretty
- 16:02Speaker 7: aware of the couple of areas we were better and
- 16:05Speaker 7: this week and then making sure that we're better again.
- 16:09Speaker 6: Example has been we're better in the air.
- 16:11Speaker 7: Which meant we had the ball war, which meant we
- 16:15Speaker 7: probably got more penalties, which is it's an interesting one here.
- 16:20Speaker 7: Having possession at the moment and holding on to the
- 16:23Speaker 7: ball means the other team has poor discipline, you know,
- 16:26Speaker 7: and that's where it's perceived. So when in the year
- 16:28Speaker 7: is a massive part of it was a massive part
- 16:30Speaker 7: of our review and what we're looking at. And we're
- 16:35Speaker 7: a little bit disappointment in some of our stuff around
- 16:39Speaker 7: the areas where Ossie out muscled us at times a
- 16:43Speaker 7: little bit. Yeah, I went both ways obviously, but yeah,
- 16:47Speaker 7: a couple they're obviously good side on the grounde I've
- 16:50Speaker 7: got good jacklers and their physical physical side, so yeah,
- 16:55Speaker 7: we looked at that and making sure that how we
- 16:58Speaker 7: slow them down as well when they have the ball,
- 17:00Speaker 7: got massive game line on us at times and put
- 17:02Speaker 7: us under pressure with a couple of tries as well,
- 17:04Speaker 7: a couple of tries that were too easy for what
- 17:06Speaker 7: we're like.
- 17:07Speaker 6: So yeah, probably a couple of key things around our
- 17:09Speaker 6: review tryon.
- 17:14Speaker 7: Yeah, the more stuff I wouldn't have been too much
- 17:16Speaker 7: all over in the forge units, but but just the
- 17:20Speaker 7: theme again of the opposition having the ball, giving away
- 17:24Speaker 7: a penalty, kicking to our corner and get the more.
- 17:26Speaker 7: You know, it's doesn't matter who you're playing, that's always
- 17:28Speaker 7: a threat. So there's always a flow on effect for
- 17:31Speaker 7: all these things, you know, well.
- 17:32Speaker 3: I think the game there's the best attacking performance over
- 17:37Speaker 3: the year so far.
- 17:38Speaker 6: Field try.
- 17:42Speaker 7: Yeah, I think for the longer periods we were we
- 17:45Speaker 7: had the ball for a longer times.
- 17:46Speaker 6: You know.
- 17:46Speaker 7: We've probably talked with you boys over this year around
- 17:50Speaker 7: little spurts of good stuff. I thought the first half
- 17:52Speaker 7: against South Africa when we got pump, I thought we
- 17:54Speaker 7: were we showed some really good touches of attack, like
- 17:58Speaker 7: LeRoy's try was one of.
- 17:59Speaker 6: The better tries of the year, I reckon.
- 18:01Speaker 7: So yeah, we keep building on that, but just looking
- 18:03Speaker 7: to put it together for longer and keeps coming back
- 18:06Speaker 7: to us having the ball and not giving the ball
- 18:08Speaker 7: all the way, you know, and putting pressure on things
- 18:10Speaker 7: for longer.
- 18:12Speaker 5: Deliberate.
- 18:14Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, we're still asking the boys to make good
- 18:16Speaker 7: decisions and if the kicks on, they'll kick if they
- 18:18Speaker 7: see the run, but are probably more you know, being
- 18:22Speaker 7: really clear if we're going to kick it, we need
- 18:24Speaker 7: to have a real outcome around the kick.
- 18:27Speaker 6: So yeah, we just want to have the possession and
- 18:30Speaker 6: be patient with it.
- 18:31Speaker 7: If there's nothing obvious on, we're happy to go another
- 18:34Speaker 7: couple of phases before we find something.
- 18:37Speaker 6: To his chance and then.
- 18:41Speaker 5: Started months this year after what changes anything. Join ticks
- 18:47Speaker 5: into the line of.
- 18:47Speaker 4: But it's different.
- 18:51Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a good observation. It's I think.
- 18:55Speaker 7: I Well, firstly, he's been outstanding, you know, even in
- 18:57Speaker 7: the last three or four weeks been on the bench.
- 18:59Speaker 7: We can't played at fifteen a couple of weeks ago.
- 19:01Speaker 7: He's he's in a really good space to met as
- 19:06Speaker 7: far as the way we play the game won't change much.
- 19:08Speaker 7: Obviously d Mac will take every opportunity to have a
- 19:10Speaker 7: crack and as you say, take the line on a
- 19:13Speaker 7: little bit. And the way was he defend with softer
- 19:17Speaker 7: on the edges to what said Africa, we're we need
- 19:21Speaker 7: to we need to be at them and not off
- 19:23Speaker 7: you passing early, So that'll be a real advantage. But
- 19:26Speaker 7: I think that makes in a great place. He's led
- 19:27Speaker 7: the team really well this week and then Rubes. Room
- 19:30Speaker 7: and Rubes are working really well together as far as
- 19:34Speaker 7: the two boys that will be in the.
- 19:36Speaker 6: Ten spot this week, and they'll be good.
- 19:39Speaker 7: So I'd say as excited, you know, as he says,
- 19:41Speaker 7: only had one start at ten, had heaps last year.
- 19:45Speaker 6: But it's in a really good space.
- 19:46Speaker 7: And loving the idea of us having the ball for
- 19:50Speaker 7: a long time, you know, not giving it away.
- 19:54Speaker 5: Five games a team this year and hasn't had a
- 19:56Speaker 5: lot of times.
- 20:02Speaker 6: Yep, one hundred percent. I think. I think.
- 20:07Speaker 7: How he quickly matured through the cane season was a
- 20:10Speaker 7: real you know, BC was there for a while, and
- 20:13Speaker 7: he came in when BC got injured, I think, and.
- 20:16Speaker 6: Just bossed that.
- 20:17Speaker 7: And watching him in the Canes environment, he just bossed
- 20:20Speaker 7: the whole environment, which was a great bit of maturity
- 20:23Speaker 7: from him.
- 20:24Speaker 6: And again he's come in and had to bite this time.
- 20:27Speaker 7: You know, it's frustrating for a young fellow and you
- 20:29Speaker 7: don't get a crack and you got a little bit
- 20:30Speaker 7: of time on the wing. But he's been running the
- 20:33Speaker 7: opposition for eight weeks now, seven seven, eight weeks and
- 20:37Speaker 7: doing a really good job of it and.
- 20:39Speaker 6: Knows the way we want to play.
- 20:41Speaker 7: So I suppose a short answer the year, really confident
- 20:44Speaker 7: he'll be sweet.
- 20:45Speaker 3: Guess consistency has been the catch for I will try
- 20:48Speaker 3: and find consistency and.
- 20:51Speaker 4: This week that you know, I guess from the weeks
- 20:54Speaker 4: where you didn't win.
- 20:55Speaker 6: I suppose that maybe you look to do differently this week.
- 20:57Speaker 7: Yeah, there's there's obviously parts of our game.
- 21:00Speaker 6: We're building and growing.
- 21:01Speaker 7: Like as we've talked around around around our attack, we
- 21:05Speaker 7: had a bit of chat this morning around the mental
- 21:07Speaker 7: side of it. You know, I don't think we ever,
- 21:12Speaker 7: nobody ever switches off, but just being really sharp around
- 21:14Speaker 7: our mental preparation, their preparation for the week. You know,
- 21:19Speaker 7: obviously we've won the first game and lost the second
- 21:21Speaker 7: one through this TC. So so we were sharpening for
- 21:24Speaker 7: us this morning to understand and think around what our
- 21:27Speaker 7: what our mindset is that we have to go and
- 21:30Speaker 7: when the bloods low again type mindset.
- 21:32Speaker 6: You know, it's not as if.
- 21:35Speaker 7: You know, we knock off in an area and like
- 21:37Speaker 7: the boys responded and today I thought, as I said,
- 21:40Speaker 7: we were sharp today, boys were on. So hopefully the
- 21:44Speaker 7: mental side of that means that we're readily go.
- 21:47Speaker 4: That is Rugby Directs almost done for another week.
- 21:50Speaker 3: We will catch you probably before we head back across
- 21:53Speaker 3: the ditch.
- 21:55Speaker 4: One more for the ditch? Is that the right thing?
- 21:57Speaker 5: That's it Scarborough. It's a great place. And picked up
- 22:02Speaker 5: some local slang.
- 22:03Speaker 3: Local Irish, whatever it might be, local slang, we'll call
- 22:06Speaker 3: it local slank. Never do it's a Rugby Direct out
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- 22:11Speaker 3: high level.
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