Latest / The Eye of Jupiter Podcast / 104 Bigfoot, Jesus, and Consciousness | Native Wisdom Exposed
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- 0:10Speaker 1: Welcome back to the i Jubiter, Episode one of four
- 0:14Speaker 1: with Elder Medicine bear Claw. What an incredible interview this is. Uh,
- 0:20Speaker 1: it may ruffle a few feathers. I gotta be honest
- 0:22Speaker 1: with you. It's not exactly what most people have heard
- 0:27Speaker 1: or believe, but this is a woman with deep roots
- 0:30Speaker 1: within a Native American tradition in which he is brought
- 0:33Speaker 1: up in. And the thing she says in this episode
- 0:36Speaker 1: about Sasquatch, about Bigfoot, about life and love, expansion of
- 0:42Speaker 1: the mind and consciousness and kind of looks into my
- 0:45Speaker 1: soul and find some interesting things about about me. And
- 0:48Speaker 1: it's a very interesting episode. I can't thank her enough.
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- 1:18Speaker 1: and made some slight changes to the intro, some slight
- 1:22Speaker 1: changes to some of the artwork and designs. I hope
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- 1:28Speaker 1: year with a wonderful episode, and I hope you guys
- 1:31Speaker 1: really enjoy it because I got to tell you it
- 1:33Speaker 1: is one of a kind and I just can't get
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- 1:38Speaker 1: on our live episodes, and I hope you enjoyed this episode.
- 1:40Speaker 1: With Elder Medicine bear Claw, I say, well, okay, so
- 1:47Speaker 1: which name should be? How should I refer to you.
- 1:49Speaker 2: Ma'am as Mama bear class find.
- 1:52Speaker 1: Mama bear Clause, Mama Berick Claw, Welcome to the show.
- 1:56Speaker 2: THANKI Hi.
- 1:58Speaker 1: Please do me a favorite, Tell me a little bit
- 2:00Speaker 1: about yourself where people can find you and things of
- 2:03Speaker 1: that nature.
- 2:05Speaker 2: My name is Elder Medicine Bear Claude. Those who know
- 2:08Speaker 2: me very well that I am a YouTuber that started
- 2:14Speaker 2: in two thousand and nine and I have to speak
- 2:16Speaker 2: to the Black Fleets where I'm originally from, and to
- 2:21Speaker 2: explain and fight for the humans other people as yourself
- 2:29Speaker 2: because in our tribal nations. Some of the others still
- 2:31Speaker 2: have old ways, and we like to say we want
- 2:37Speaker 2: to make sure things are great, properly and respectful. And
- 2:41Speaker 2: I fought with them to get share information of we
- 2:47Speaker 2: are in mother Earth, in our forest. So and also
- 2:52Speaker 2: I do the protection medicine bags, which I also fought for.
- 2:58Speaker 1: Okay, so you're so you are then the Now if
- 3:03Speaker 1: I used any type of wrong terminology, you can correct
- 3:05Speaker 1: me at any moment. Okay, So you are the you're
- 3:08Speaker 1: the medicine woman, the shaman. Which word? Which word do
- 3:11Speaker 1: you prefer?
- 3:13Speaker 2: Woman?
- 3:13Speaker 1: The medicine woman. Okay, goose shaman is more of a
- 3:15Speaker 1: Russian work. So yes, see, I know a little bit.
- 3:19Speaker 2: Now.
- 3:20Speaker 1: I'm quite a fan of like people like Terence McKenna
- 3:26Speaker 1: and his brother, amongst many others when it comes to
- 3:29Speaker 1: certain things in this world. So you're a medicine woman
- 3:33Speaker 1: for your tribe. So was how was that? So? How
- 3:36Speaker 1: did that start for you? Were? Was it decided through
- 3:40Speaker 1: through birth or or it's just you had a special
- 3:44Speaker 1: thing that someone saw, or how does that work?
- 3:46Speaker 2: It started with a family, which is goes back to
- 3:50Speaker 2: my grandmother. We goes generation to generations. Women fought to
- 4:00Speaker 2: give the the medicine whill was not always the man,
- 4:05Speaker 2: but the women always came forward and we strongly given
- 4:09Speaker 2: to share it to each to help others of our
- 4:13Speaker 2: tribal nation. So I continue to learn since I was five,
- 4:18Speaker 2: how to do medicine, how to read prints from all creatures,
- 4:27Speaker 2: and we continue.
- 4:29Speaker 1: Okay, so okay, So when that's I don't know how
- 4:33Speaker 1: to I don't want to jump the shark, as we say,
- 4:36Speaker 1: or jump off the deep end, or how that wording
- 4:39Speaker 1: might be. What do you mean by prince? What? First
- 4:41Speaker 1: of all, where are you? Where are you located? And
- 4:44Speaker 1: where is your nation?
- 4:46Speaker 2: Now? I am in California, in California, yes, and I'm
- 4:51Speaker 2: that by Wyoming, okay, and that's where I'm orangiged from
- 4:56Speaker 2: the black Feet tribe. From the there, I traveled over
- 5:01Speaker 2: the years to California and back home. I've also traveled
- 5:06Speaker 2: in many different states as I got older to understand
- 5:12Speaker 2: the human prince. But when we look deeper for me
- 5:17Speaker 2: to understand what it's about, it's the Sabungahs, the wild man,
- 5:23Speaker 2: the oak, the bigfoots, seeing different sizes and the heavy
- 5:33Speaker 2: of the print and stuff. So it's been very challenging
- 5:38Speaker 2: since I was Oh, I started really robbed eight doing that,
- 5:44Speaker 2: going out with my uncle and aunts, and then understanding
- 5:48Speaker 2: that many times when we come into the forest, people
- 5:56Speaker 2: don't really watch where they walk or check what's on
- 6:01Speaker 2: the ground because there are different mini prints. And that
- 6:05Speaker 2: kept on going and going as I was getting older
- 6:07Speaker 2: and older. Then when they told me, are you ready
- 6:11Speaker 2: to do an investigation? And I said yes, So I
- 6:16Speaker 2: started doing that besides jingo dancing and learning more medicine.
- 6:22Speaker 2: But when my next level came is I got reallyfatuated.
- 6:25Speaker 2: I've understand foots.
- 6:31Speaker 1: Okay, so I I don't know if you noticed, but
- 6:33Speaker 1: all of a sudden, my internet just went out, just
- 6:38Speaker 1: in case you did a great job. And I appreciate
- 6:41Speaker 1: this so very much. So I had my daughter go
- 6:43Speaker 1: right out the door and it just went out, and
- 6:45Speaker 1: then it came back on. So I heard, I did
- 6:48Speaker 1: hear the word bigfoot? Is that what you guys referred in?
- 6:51Speaker 1: What is the name that you guys? Are you guys
- 6:54Speaker 1: suppung us? One more time? Please? I'm sorry, Tanga. Okay,
- 7:01Speaker 1: so here in Mexico they call him pie. I live
- 7:06Speaker 1: here in Mexico, Uh yeah, so yeah, and my my
- 7:10Speaker 1: my girlfriend is Mayan so she's a Native American as well.
- 7:14Speaker 1: They have their lore, and they have their folks, Dell,
- 7:17Speaker 1: they have medicine people too, and yes, and they still
- 7:21Speaker 1: they still exist here in quite a large number. The
- 7:24Speaker 1: language is the next one I want to learn. It's
- 7:27Speaker 1: the next one.
- 7:27Speaker 3: Up.
- 7:29Speaker 1: I speak German. I speak German, I lived in Germany,
- 7:33Speaker 1: and I speak English of course, and I also speak
- 7:36Speaker 1: maybe halfway through Spanish, but it's quite difficult. And the
- 7:41Speaker 1: next one is Mayan. So you guys call it stanga.
- 7:44Speaker 1: I think you said I was close and in what
- 7:49Speaker 1: is uh? What? What relationship? How did your relationship with
- 7:52Speaker 1: them personally start? I don't know if you already said that.
- 7:56Speaker 2: Well, I actually got to meet and a female and
- 8:02Speaker 2: her name is Orba. I've had her since I was five. Wow,
- 8:09Speaker 2: and I have When you get to know and experience
- 8:15Speaker 2: the satangas are bigfoot wow man yak. You all know
- 8:20Speaker 2: that it takes a lot of patience and trust. And
- 8:28Speaker 2: I learned to sign with her and I and shared
- 8:36Speaker 2: many foods, medicine and had a positive communication. Okay, she
- 8:47Speaker 2: comes to me in my home. It frightens my husband.
- 8:51Speaker 2: He says he can smell something like death. And I said,
- 8:55Speaker 2: she's here, don't be alarmed. And he's like, I don't
- 8:59Speaker 2: know how you and the kids can because he won't
- 9:03Speaker 2: go with me. I have a plan in usemities over
- 9:05Speaker 2: here in Sonora. Then I have a clan over here
- 9:09Speaker 2: in the border of Nevada in California, and so I
- 9:15Speaker 2: really communicate. I've had Orba since black Feet Reds, and
- 9:24Speaker 2: she tells me what goes on in the east coast,
- 9:29Speaker 2: mid Midwest with water, the traffic of the Satangas, because
- 9:36Speaker 2: they move and they go to different tribes to immigrate
- 9:44Speaker 2: with other clans. Sometimes sometimes they'll take the female so
- 9:51Speaker 2: they can make another clan. So that is what I've
- 9:54Speaker 2: learned from them. But they speak and if you take
- 9:58Speaker 2: certain things from them, which sacred, because these are Mother
- 10:03Speaker 2: Earth angels and she may protect the earth, which is mother.
- 10:10Speaker 1: Okay. So when you say you share medicine, what medicine
- 10:13Speaker 1: have you shared to them? And what medicine have they
- 10:16Speaker 1: shared with you?
- 10:18Speaker 2: Different kinds of herbs. She has told me what trees
- 10:24Speaker 2: can have medicine, water, what plants you can eat in
- 10:28Speaker 2: your na that you can't touch, What berries are more
- 10:35Speaker 2: nutrients for us and them? And which ones are poisoning.
- 10:40Speaker 1: Really okay, and so so from our tradition being from Europe,
- 10:47Speaker 1: that a lot of that has passed down through just
- 10:50Speaker 1: knowledge of our elders, which we have lost a lot of.
- 10:54Speaker 1: And it's quite alarming actually, especially being in America in
- 10:59Speaker 1: a way it is now in Europe. If you go
- 11:02Speaker 1: to certain places, you'll still find a lot of that.
- 11:04Speaker 1: You know, people will say uh, like in Germany bright
- 11:06Speaker 1: plot which is wide wide leaf, like if you have
- 11:09Speaker 1: any type of uh brand nessel, which are stinging nettles.
- 11:13Speaker 1: I think in English, you can take that and rub
- 11:15Speaker 1: it on you and it takes it away. So like
- 11:17Speaker 1: so and here too as well, My my, my, my
- 11:21Speaker 1: lady friend and her mom and her grandmother, they know
- 11:26Speaker 1: an immense amount of medicine. She goes, yeah, you can
- 11:28Speaker 1: use this to do this. And this is if you
- 11:30Speaker 1: get like that. And there's a thing here called there's
- 11:34Speaker 1: trees here in English are called black poison wood, and
- 11:38Speaker 1: and and and here and may end they're called what
- 11:41Speaker 1: are called cheka in chin chin Chi. Chen is the
- 11:44Speaker 1: bad one. Chin chin is the bad one. Yes, you
- 11:48Speaker 1: have that word recognizable.
- 11:51Speaker 2: Yes, I speak high languages.
- 11:55Speaker 3: You speak languages, yes, what do you what do you
- 12:00Speaker 3: where do you go to learn language?
- 12:03Speaker 2: You need to know the difference of the languages and
- 12:06Speaker 2: and understand what is around you.
- 12:10Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, it's okay, don't I'm using a green
- 12:14Speaker 1: screen too. It's okay. I have the spurtless the spiling vortex,
- 12:18Speaker 1: and you have a beautiful uh scenery behind you. So
- 12:21Speaker 1: you learn them when you go to different places, or
- 12:24Speaker 1: you'd learned them in school, or you just.
- 12:26Speaker 2: Have the ability some of the from family members by
- 12:30Speaker 2: listening in them when you are going into other travels.
- 12:34Speaker 2: You need to understand because as you older, you get
- 12:37Speaker 2: and when you're chosen you become an elder and then
- 12:40Speaker 2: the council.
- 12:43Speaker 1: So amazing. I'm so glad that you, you, amongst a
- 12:46Speaker 1: few others, are still holding that tradition. And I hope
- 12:50Speaker 1: how are your children and grandchildren taken to your traditions.
- 12:55Speaker 2: My childrens are very well adapted. My grandchildren understand and
- 13:01Speaker 2: they if I do speak, they understand what I'm trying
- 13:04Speaker 2: to say. Now I'm trying to teach my great granddaughter.
- 13:08Speaker 1: So fantastic. It's such a it's kind of a there's
- 13:14Speaker 1: a travesty on many points, but for me, I just
- 13:16Speaker 1: don't like the fact that it's being lost. I think
- 13:18Speaker 1: there's when you're losing not only when you're losing a language,
- 13:21Speaker 1: you're losing a culture in a whole bunch of information
- 13:25Speaker 1: that could be helpful to everybody, because people are just
- 13:29Speaker 1: lack of a but ignorant, ignorant, not knowing, ignorant, not
- 13:32Speaker 1: in effect of a mean sense, but in a sense
- 13:34Speaker 1: of unknowing. And when you run no, you do a
- 13:37Speaker 1: lot of dumb things. And the people of the past
- 13:41Speaker 1: were just not today too. But at least there's a
- 13:46Speaker 1: little bit of discussion that is going around and people
- 13:51Speaker 1: are starting to open up to it. But I think
- 13:52Speaker 1: mother ayahuasca has a lot to do with that. I
- 13:55Speaker 1: think a lot of the psychedelics and things that nature
- 14:00Speaker 1: or opening people's minds to the connection, because I believe
- 14:03Speaker 1: basically those medicines enable us to have a conversation with
- 14:09Speaker 1: the plant world and the vegetation world, and also enable
- 14:13Speaker 1: us to realize that we all are one little node
- 14:17Speaker 1: of something much bigger, and that connection is being lost.
- 14:22Speaker 1: But I think it's starting to pick up again. Oddly enough,
- 14:25Speaker 1: I think since twenty twelve something happened.
- 14:30Speaker 2: I you say twenty twelve, I say two thousand.
- 14:36Speaker 1: Interesting, why would you say two thousand. I'll tell you
- 14:38Speaker 1: twenty twelve. You tell me two thousand. I would love
- 14:40Speaker 1: to hear that.
- 14:41Speaker 2: Many many things have went sour when the left turn
- 14:47Speaker 2: instead of going directly, as the Journey says, when you're
- 14:51Speaker 2: on a path, different people don't understand why this is
- 14:58Speaker 2: meant to be this path. It's to go on and
- 15:01Speaker 2: do this, then it's what it's necessary. Then someone says, no,
- 15:07Speaker 2: this is the path we need to go. Again, that's
- 15:10Speaker 2: a human being. What's making the wrong path for us?
- 15:15Speaker 2: And those who follow end up trembling through that and
- 15:20Speaker 2: it's not setting the proper path to go. Okay, I
- 15:24Speaker 2: feel that a lot of the people, even relatives, don't
- 15:31Speaker 2: follow traditions but yet want to be free minded. And
- 15:36Speaker 2: this is how many different minds expand out. Yeah, and
- 15:43Speaker 2: not coping.
- 15:46Speaker 1: Do you understand? I think I do. I think I
- 15:50Speaker 1: think it's I think another way to put is like
- 15:54Speaker 1: you're kind of held within the five senses instead of
- 15:56Speaker 1: realizing your your bloodlines as well as your family members
- 16:00Speaker 1: and and and many others that to spiral out your
- 16:04Speaker 1: your consciousness, you need to know where your roots are
- 16:07Speaker 1: kind of the destiny is kind of a thing. But
- 16:11Speaker 1: also you still have a bit of free will, I
- 16:13Speaker 1: guess the lack of a better word, but remembering that
- 16:16Speaker 1: at the same time and being connected with everything and everyone, Yes, yes,
- 16:21Speaker 1: maybe maybe so. I have a lot of questions. I
- 16:24Speaker 1: love not even so much because everyone wants to hear about,
- 16:28Speaker 1: you know, the Sasquatch or I wrote it down.
- 16:30Speaker 4: Hold on, Uh, there's many words for a big place,
- 16:37Speaker 4: Harry the well man in the woods.
- 16:42Speaker 1: Being there is a yai yai? Yes, and what can
- 16:51Speaker 1: you tell me about their connection? Do they do? They
- 16:54Speaker 1: are there just different names.
- 16:56Speaker 2: For them or well, it's like I've been telling everybody.
- 17:00Speaker 2: They are very sacred. They protect mother Earth and also
- 17:07Speaker 2: they protect their young. And there are clan. Yes, there
- 17:13Speaker 2: are aggressive ones out there, but many still don't understand
- 17:18Speaker 2: why they're here. There thinks who is it. Someone was saying, oh,
- 17:27Speaker 2: you have not understanding what they are. They been here.
- 17:31Speaker 2: You just have to opened your eyes to see them.
- 17:35Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I was. I was talking to a
- 17:37Speaker 1: gentleman who says, oh, yeah, I start down here as well.
- 17:39Speaker 1: In the Yucatan. It's just that the vegetation is so
- 17:42Speaker 1: dense it's a it's a different world. It's a different world.
- 17:46Speaker 2: They are all over the world, Europe, Russia, Germany, Paris.
- 17:54Speaker 1: Asia, trying to get to German. Because you want to
- 17:57Speaker 1: talk about people who are completely out of touch with
- 18:00Speaker 1: the earth and the way the way things really are.
- 18:07Speaker 1: I think people are. I think people are. We're getting
- 18:10Speaker 1: to this point, especially in the technologies like which has
- 18:12Speaker 1: its benefits too. I get to speak with people like
- 18:14Speaker 1: yourself and many many others to expand this knowledge. But
- 18:18Speaker 1: a lot of people use it for the general purpose
- 18:21Speaker 1: of entertainment. But that that's spiraling so far that people
- 18:26Speaker 1: it's like it's like an addiction of sorts. And now
- 18:29Speaker 1: I think people are looking for something of a deeper meaning.
- 18:33Speaker 1: And when I say twenty twelve, it's because, of course,
- 18:36Speaker 1: there was the mind calendar right where they said where
- 18:40Speaker 1: they said it was the end of the cycle or
- 18:42Speaker 1: the large cycle better said. And an idea that I've had,
- 18:47Speaker 1: you know, just an idea, is that there there was
- 18:51Speaker 1: the end of the world. But now we have split
- 18:54Speaker 1: into two. Like there's people who I don't know, like
- 18:59Speaker 1: I seem to be like closer or drawn better said
- 19:04Speaker 1: to people who speak in a certain way, and I'm
- 19:07Speaker 1: like drawn drawn drawn, you know, like there's a connection
- 19:12Speaker 1: I have with certain people when you know it immediately,
- 19:15Speaker 1: But in the past I would. I don't know if
- 19:17Speaker 1: it's because of my age or but I just remember
- 19:20Speaker 1: it's distinctly. And around that time period things change. The
- 19:23Speaker 1: world got crazier because the separation of the two worlds,
- 19:28Speaker 1: like the division happened. Then that's just something what that
- 19:32Speaker 1: means or how yeah, God please again.
- 19:36Speaker 2: Many of us were put on different paths and it
- 19:41Speaker 2: could be like one belief but your partner don't, Yes,
- 19:46Speaker 2: you have to.
- 19:48Speaker 1: That's interesting. That is because my my ex wife is
- 19:52Speaker 1: half German, half Mexican, and but more German than Mexicans.
- 19:57Speaker 1: So they have a certain you know, a is thick
- 20:00Speaker 1: mind point of view that I used to also be
- 20:02Speaker 1: myself until I realized there's for me, there's for me,
- 20:06Speaker 1: there's a true I'm not religious, okay, first of all,
- 20:09Speaker 1: not religious relious.
- 20:10Speaker 2: You don't have to be to go to church. As
- 20:15Speaker 2: weet as we tell our religious and people, our body
- 20:19Speaker 2: is simple, yes, matter where you are, because it's manly word.
- 20:29Speaker 2: And I just spoke about this today because they said, oh,
- 20:34Speaker 2: there was never a satanga bigfoot in the supper, I said,
- 20:39Speaker 2: there was in the what in the supper where the Jesus.
- 20:45Speaker 1: And in the last supper?
- 20:47Speaker 2: Okay, they were removed because they were there in the
- 20:52Speaker 2: cave and you see two there, and then we hear
- 20:56Speaker 2: they had a certain kind of fish or the frog.
- 21:01Speaker 2: Then I mean they had different animals the same thing
- 21:05Speaker 2: grand the supper and there was two women and then
- 21:08Speaker 2: the men. The women weren't serving, they were sitting with
- 21:11Speaker 2: the men, right, And I tried to explain this man
- 21:15Speaker 2: of religion churches removed all that. Yeah, it made it
- 21:23Speaker 2: more plain where it was. The women looked like men
- 21:28Speaker 2: because they believe in the long hair. But there was
- 21:31Speaker 2: two women. And if you really really know your your
- 21:35Speaker 2: religion in your Bibles. And again man made by words
- 21:39Speaker 2: in the Bible, because they carried it out the choir.
- 21:45Speaker 2: And I tell everybody they really don't have to go
- 21:47Speaker 2: to church, but if you do, you know, I'm sure
- 21:50Speaker 2: the man upstairs is very pleased. You do. Be spiritual
- 21:56Speaker 2: in your heart and teach.
- 21:58Speaker 1: Your own you do for praying, Yes, yes, I think
- 22:03Speaker 1: a lot of people they look externally for something that's
- 22:07Speaker 1: innately internal. You know, it's it's within you to find,
- 22:11Speaker 1: to find, you know, a connection to anything, to everything.
- 22:15Speaker 2: It's you and how you presented.
- 22:21Speaker 1: Yes, yes, being so when you're in a place like
- 22:25Speaker 1: Mexico being you know the way I look to be honest,
- 22:30Speaker 1: people have a perception about you and you see, of course,
- 22:39Speaker 1: and it doesn't by what it means something else green
- 22:41Speaker 1: and go, And it's said green go because they were
- 22:43Speaker 1: wearing a green attire. But I don't. It doesn't bother me.
- 22:48Speaker 1: For me, it's just words and but it's just a
- 22:52Speaker 1: way to describe a feeling or or something. And a
- 22:55Speaker 1: lot of times it's perpetuated buy other things that may
- 22:58Speaker 1: not be true or not. But that's not who I am,
- 23:02Speaker 1: you know, So when I go, yes.
- 23:04Speaker 2: Please, I told I tell people it's how your energy
- 23:09Speaker 2: is and how you crisae it because your body speaks it. Yes,
- 23:16Speaker 2: So if you don't. It's the same thing when you're
- 23:19Speaker 2: just talking about Mother Earth and the Guardian Angels, which
- 23:22Speaker 2: are the bigfoots of Congos. They represent for her, protect
- 23:28Speaker 2: her from all things. Yes, they hunt, but they also
- 23:33Speaker 2: share their food with other animals. They only take what
- 23:37Speaker 2: is needed.
- 23:38Speaker 1: It's fascinating. It's fascinating the ability that we have that
- 23:44Speaker 1: we either block or has been somehow ignored. I guess ignored.
- 23:51Speaker 1: And it's based on the here and now and immediate
- 23:54Speaker 1: satisfaction instead of true satisfaction. Because you can have all
- 23:58Speaker 1: the money in the world and you won't be happy exactly.
- 24:01Speaker 2: I tell is material things, it is and that's what
- 24:07Speaker 2: you want and you're not gonna see. Yeah, you can
- 24:10Speaker 2: exceed and make people happy or your family, but are
- 24:13Speaker 2: you gonna be happy?
- 24:16Speaker 1: There's a certain okay, so giving up everything in Europe.
- 24:20Speaker 1: So I left there because of a certain thing they
- 24:24Speaker 1: tried to do to me, and I took that mentality,
- 24:28Speaker 1: and I took my a bit of an American concept
- 24:31Speaker 1: and idea of liberty and freedom of speech, but that
- 24:34Speaker 1: I do like. And I left there and I gave
- 24:38Speaker 1: up everything. I ended up losing my wife in the process.
- 24:42Speaker 1: We kind of even though we were together and we
- 24:44Speaker 1: held through to get here, it fell apart. But I
- 24:48Speaker 1: gave up everything. I'm talking vacation, medical, everything, house, car, everything.
- 24:55Speaker 1: And so when I got here, I was I bought
- 24:57Speaker 1: some lands that way, So I bought ten acres in
- 25:00Speaker 1: the jungle here literally in the middle of nowhere. I've
- 25:04Speaker 1: had some interesting accounters myself here in the in the
- 25:07Speaker 1: jungles of Mexico, things that I can't quite explain, some lights,
- 25:12Speaker 1: some voices, some things that are weird to me that
- 25:15Speaker 1: I've never experienced before. But to be extremely poor is
- 25:21Speaker 1: hard when you live in the world where you have
- 25:24Speaker 1: to have some type of money to sustain yourself until
- 25:27Speaker 1: you have the ability to reconnect because we live in
- 25:31Speaker 1: a system and where you have to buy some type
- 25:32Speaker 1: of land to plant instead of it always being free,
- 25:35Speaker 1: which it always has been. Correct, we're speaking the same language,
- 25:41Speaker 1: oddly enough?
- 25:45Speaker 2: Is there are things that people ask me, Well, you're
- 25:51Speaker 2: from the risk. Do you see Chavocala Uh no, wrong
- 25:56Speaker 2: area that is either in Jahah, Mexico or down more
- 26:03Speaker 2: in the valley.
- 26:05Speaker 1: Are you talking about the troop of capita?
- 26:07Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 26:07Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, we have a thing here and
- 26:11Speaker 1: we have the thing called a Lucius.
- 26:13Speaker 2: Yes, I know you know what those are.
- 26:16Speaker 1: You're the first person that I've known that is not
- 26:18Speaker 1: from Mexico that knows what those are? Could you tell
- 26:21Speaker 1: people what they are? So the people who have never
- 26:22Speaker 1: seen it before that what is you? I'm not testing you,
- 26:25Speaker 1: but I just want to know what you've heard and
- 26:27Speaker 1: what your knowledge is, and I would just I just
- 26:30Speaker 1: I love to hear about it.
- 26:32Speaker 2: I hear that it likes to take away the pain
- 26:39Speaker 2: from people. They know how to present themselves.
- 26:44Speaker 1: I'm here in the opposite. I'm here in the opposite. Yeah,
- 26:47Speaker 1: I'm hearing that.
- 26:49Speaker 2: Say, well, that's what from what I'm No, that's.
- 26:51Speaker 1: Fine, that's fine, It's completely fine. So I've I've spoken
- 26:55Speaker 1: with my own people here. I've spoken with people who's
- 26:59Speaker 1: you know, they're really close. Some of them still speak
- 27:01Speaker 1: a little Mayan. These things are they were protected the corn,
- 27:07Speaker 1: protectors of the corn, and they were kind of conjured,
- 27:11Speaker 1: like made with some type of ceremony, and they protect
- 27:14Speaker 1: the corn. They like to throw rocks. They're very mischievous.
- 27:23Speaker 1: What else did they throw.
- 27:26Speaker 2: Well, you know if you have when they like the squash, yes,
- 27:35Speaker 2: the big ones. Yes, they like to throw.
- 27:41Speaker 1: Interesting. Interesting. I've also heard, like there's a thing here too,
- 27:46Speaker 1: It's called manavientos, which is bad winds. So when you
- 27:49Speaker 1: go into the caves, because there's a lot of caves
- 27:51Speaker 1: here in the Yucatan, they seem to preside in those
- 27:55Speaker 1: and also on hillsides. Yeah, and their chain they have
- 28:00Speaker 1: like a they got like the kind of like little Buddha's,
- 28:02Speaker 1: you know, to give people reference. And people go down
- 28:07Speaker 1: in these caves and they'll come out with fevers, and.
- 28:11Speaker 2: Some of them blind sighted.
- 28:14Speaker 1: Yes, yes, there you go, yeah, or like their neck
- 28:18Speaker 1: will be like like they'll have a pain in their neck,
- 28:20Speaker 1: or they can't speak. They developed stutters.
- 28:25Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
- 28:26Speaker 1: It's I don't know what it is. I've heard voices
- 28:29Speaker 1: out there in the woods at night.
- 28:32Speaker 2: Allow it because they will come. Never, allow it to,
- 28:39Speaker 2: never good, because that's how they are.
- 28:43Speaker 1: Say it again, I'm sorry, you just gave me.
- 28:47Speaker 2: How they come in. This is how they call you, okay.
- 28:52Speaker 1: And I also seen two times, two times different voices.
- 28:55Speaker 1: One time was right in my ear, sleeping in a
- 28:57Speaker 1: hammock in the jungle, underneath the nets because mosquitos will
- 29:01Speaker 1: eat you alive here. And so one time in my
- 29:04Speaker 1: left ear, and I literally just out of reaction, I
- 29:07Speaker 1: just kind of threw a punch because I thought someone
- 29:09Speaker 1: was there. I felt my hair is on my ears
- 29:11Speaker 1: move at that age where I grow hair out of
- 29:13Speaker 1: my ears, and so I felt him move and I
- 29:20Speaker 1: heard a voice. The second I've seen these lights, but
- 29:23Speaker 1: not like an orb but like a light bluish white,
- 29:26Speaker 1: about the size of a softball on this one time
- 29:31Speaker 1: on the ceiling above my daughter, and one time on
- 29:33Speaker 1: the wall next to me. I had there was a
- 29:36Speaker 1: snake in there, and I don't I didn't know much
- 29:38Speaker 1: about the snakes here. Now I knew it's not a
- 29:41Speaker 1: dangerous snake, but I didn't like that a snake was
- 29:44Speaker 1: sleeping next to me, about fifteen feet away from me
- 29:47Speaker 1: at three in the morning. So I had to take
- 29:49Speaker 1: care of it with the machete because my daughter's there.
- 29:52Speaker 1: It's just instinct. And right after that, I'm trying to
- 29:56Speaker 1: go back to bed, and there's this bluish white light
- 29:58Speaker 1: on the wall. And the second time, the same as
- 30:00Speaker 1: the first. I try to see if it was a
- 30:01Speaker 1: flashlight that someone was messing with me. It looked like
- 30:05Speaker 1: someone shined a light through an aquarium, but it was
- 30:08Speaker 1: pretty defined enough. Yeah, please, this.
- 30:12Speaker 2: Is Firits are very very very high. If there is
- 30:16Speaker 2: good energy around your home or around where you are,
- 30:22Speaker 2: then they want themselves to be known.
- 30:26Speaker 1: Okay, So if they're so, your reaction was to the
- 30:30Speaker 1: blue light and the whitish blue lights, So why did
- 30:34Speaker 1: you react the way you did? What do you mean.
- 30:36Speaker 2: Because they I feel that when you were saying that,
- 30:39Speaker 2: I could see it, and it's saying that should be
- 30:43Speaker 2: like be aware.
- 30:45Speaker 1: Oh my god, dude. Okay, so all right, you are
- 30:49Speaker 1: who you say you are, all right, Me and you
- 30:50Speaker 1: were going to have a really good a really good
- 30:52Speaker 1: connection and you're going to be on hope at least
- 30:55Speaker 1: more than once on my show to spread your information.
- 31:00Speaker 1: You are right. I was visualizing it to explain it correctly,
- 31:04Speaker 1: not just verbally, but you could Okay, that was okay,
- 31:08Speaker 1: all right, I felt.
- 31:09Speaker 2: And he tried to challenge me. I've had many people
- 31:16Speaker 2: believe me, and that's what I was saying. And this
- 31:19Speaker 2: is for I am very strong. I am the youngest.
- 31:24Speaker 2: Will there's another male now that he is the youngest,
- 31:28Speaker 2: because usually the elders of Rugine seventy and one hundred
- 31:32Speaker 2: and two or older is one hundred four, yes, four,
- 31:37Speaker 2: But I fought for the people the outside of tribal
- 31:45Speaker 2: nation to protect him. And if the only way you
- 31:50Speaker 2: can be to get in medicine bag is you have
- 31:55Speaker 2: to ask the elders your community, which is the councils,
- 32:00Speaker 2: not just one travel but all that have come together,
- 32:04Speaker 2: and we do that so I tell them, here's a
- 32:10Speaker 2: bag for you. The channels that I've helped, I've helped
- 32:13Speaker 2: so many channels given my sight when I'm there, what
- 32:17Speaker 2: is it? What it looks like? But to look forward
- 32:20Speaker 2: to and the bags they all have mine, I carry mine.
- 32:26Speaker 2: I have my mother's inside. She's always with me, give
- 32:30Speaker 2: me more guidance. Same thing with my marine feather. She's
- 32:34Speaker 2: also given me much exciting.
- 32:37Speaker 1: So they wanted me to be aware that I was.
- 32:40Speaker 1: They wanted to let them. They wanted to let me
- 32:42Speaker 1: know because no one else seen it, just me. They
- 32:44Speaker 1: wanted to let me know that they were there. And
- 32:47Speaker 1: so I heard a voice again. Then after the second time,
- 32:50Speaker 1: I seen them because when I looked to see what
- 32:53Speaker 1: the source was there was it disappeared. It just wasn't
- 32:57Speaker 1: there no more. And then behind me, about about thirty
- 33:01Speaker 1: yards outside of the screened in area, I heard voices.
- 33:05Speaker 1: It was a female voice. I know. It wasn't German,
- 33:09Speaker 1: it wasn't Spanish, it wasn't English. These are the syntaxes
- 33:12Speaker 1: that I recognize the patterns in. And I don't know
- 33:15Speaker 1: if it was Mayan, but it sounded like but it was.
- 33:20Speaker 1: It wasn't mean or malicious but it wasn't inviting. It
- 33:26Speaker 1: was just like talking to me correct And I said,
- 33:31Speaker 1: I don't know who you are. I just wanted to
- 33:34Speaker 1: let you know that I'm not here to harm the land.
- 33:36Speaker 1: If anything, I'm here to improve the land. And my
- 33:39Speaker 1: family is going to be living here and we were
- 33:41Speaker 1: just going to be planting and taking care of the land.
- 33:45Speaker 1: You can stay if you want, but I do not
- 33:46Speaker 1: want to be bothered. And then I went up on
- 33:49Speaker 1: the hill where I may or may not have mayan ruins,
- 33:52Speaker 1: may or may not have because I can't confirm or deny,
- 33:56Speaker 1: and said the same thing again the following day and
- 34:00Speaker 1: ever since then, no problems, or I would say no interactions.
- 34:04Speaker 2: I guess you would say no interactions. Yes, they are around, okay, and.
- 34:11Speaker 1: What do you what do you feel their intentions are.
- 34:14Speaker 2: They're just watching and making sure you're not disturbing Mother Earth.
- 34:23Speaker 2: But let them know that they're welcome. But if their
- 34:28Speaker 2: intentions is bad, they need to leave.
- 34:31Speaker 1: That's what I told them. That's exactly what I told them.
- 34:34Speaker 1: And we don't do that. So all my all, the
- 34:37Speaker 1: all of our toilets are organic toilets with leaves, So
- 34:42Speaker 1: with leaves, and you know, solve us whatever I have,
- 34:45Speaker 1: and it gets piled up and then after a year
- 34:47Speaker 1: we can use it for planting. I don't cut anything
- 34:51Speaker 1: anything down excessively that I need.
- 34:53Speaker 2: I really do use How do you say, do you
- 35:00Speaker 2: turn it? You burn it?
- 35:02Speaker 1: No? I do not burn it. No, I do not
- 35:05Speaker 1: burn it. I told my ex wife that she okay,
- 35:09Speaker 1: because here in Mexico it gets very dry during the
- 35:11Speaker 1: dry and season, and there is there's the occasional wildfire
- 35:14Speaker 1: that will burn through and if you don't clear the
- 35:17Speaker 1: brush back away from the house, it will get you.
- 35:20Speaker 1: So I do clear it away. I have burned it
- 35:23Speaker 1: because when I first moved in there it was so
- 35:25Speaker 1: it's so much missus parklaw, missus Barreco, medicine, medicine, bar clall.
- 35:31Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I don't remembering. Okay, my intentions are good.
- 35:35Speaker 1: I promise. There's so much. When you go in, like
- 35:38Speaker 1: you'll cut the grass like regular lawmower. You have to
- 35:40Speaker 1: cut it every two days. It grows so fast here.
- 35:44Speaker 1: So the plants were every bit of eight feet in
- 35:47Speaker 1: the air. And I just made a path to get
- 35:49Speaker 1: my vehicle in so I can build a small cabin
- 35:52Speaker 1: which I made out of wood. I made a concrete
- 35:56Speaker 1: base so that the water doesn't seep him because of
- 35:58Speaker 1: the rainy season. And I use actual logs from the property,
- 36:02Speaker 1: peel the bark off them, put some tar on them
- 36:05Speaker 1: and put them in the ground, and made an actual
- 36:07Speaker 1: log cabin and just use local Yeah, locals.
- 36:12Speaker 2: Have you tried putting down tobacco for a blessing?
- 36:17Speaker 1: No?
- 36:17Speaker 2: But just I don't know how.
- 36:18Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't I understand what you're saying.
- 36:21Speaker 1: I said, I don't know how to do things that
- 36:23Speaker 1: I I don't I don't dabble in things that I
- 36:25Speaker 1: don't know, and I find it to be disingenuous or
- 36:31Speaker 1: disrespectful if I were to try it, not knowing what
- 36:35Speaker 1: I should know. And I've always also had a sense
- 36:37Speaker 1: that there's been a part of me. This is gonna
- 36:39Speaker 1: sound weird, but there's always been a sense of me
- 36:42Speaker 1: that that I should know. If you know what that.
- 36:45Speaker 2: Means, I do.
- 36:47Speaker 1: Yeah. Good.
- 36:48Speaker 2: There were many people that didn't understand, and here I
- 36:54Speaker 2: showed them in person how and they said wow, because
- 37:01Speaker 2: somehow there was a lot of people that live off
- 37:04Speaker 2: the group. Yes and them, and I told them this
- 37:09Speaker 2: is how you need to deal with the spirit. So
- 37:11Speaker 2: I have to cleanse the room and tell them come
- 37:15Speaker 2: with me. And these are all bad energies. You do
- 37:19Speaker 2: not bring long care.
- 37:21Speaker 1: This place has a lot of ancient.
- 37:26Speaker 2: Energy, a lot of I still picked them up.
- 37:31Speaker 1: There is a feeling that they could be malicious if
- 37:36Speaker 1: they wanted to be. But I think what a lot
- 37:39Speaker 1: of people don't realize is that your intention is everything.
- 37:41Speaker 1: Your intention, what it is that you do. Like a
- 37:44Speaker 1: lot of people when they pray, it's kind of like,
- 37:47Speaker 1: you know, to the guy in this like out. For me,
- 37:50Speaker 1: I try to let it internalize and shine out. Does
- 37:52Speaker 1: that make any sense whatsoever? I can feel it. Actually,
- 37:57Speaker 1: it always sounds disingenuous and fake when I say it,
- 38:01Speaker 1: but I do tell like my girlfriend and my ex wife,
- 38:05Speaker 1: and they were just kind of like, yeah, okay, whatever,
- 38:07Speaker 1: But it's the truth. Let's explain it. I feel it.
- 38:14Speaker 2: It's the same thing as one of my children, my son.
- 38:20Speaker 2: He says, for a long time, they didn't his follower fireworkers,
- 38:25Speaker 2: the brothers forestry, so he's constantly busy. Yeah, he said.
- 38:32Speaker 2: There was one of his farmer brothers didn't understand why
- 38:37Speaker 2: he had long hair in a braid or a medicine
- 38:41Speaker 2: bag and putting down tobacco to Mother Earth. And he
- 38:47Speaker 2: told him, why did you do that? He goes to
- 38:49Speaker 2: protect us all because we're what we're doing is to
- 38:54Speaker 2: help her before this fire can continue on further down
- 39:00Speaker 2: many acres and digging to put down the tobacco shows
- 39:05Speaker 2: respect to in our culture and those who believe in
- 39:09Speaker 2: our culture. You know, I would teach them, even my
- 39:14Speaker 2: son when he says, this is what we do because
- 39:17Speaker 2: as Mother Earth is the one that's telling us how
- 39:20Speaker 2: far the fire is going to be, and that way
- 39:23Speaker 2: we can dridge so it doesn't cross over and harm
- 39:28Speaker 2: someone's home or you know, hurt us. So he was like,
- 39:36Speaker 2: why does it have to be tobacco? And to just
- 39:42Speaker 2: say a prayer? He goes, I did, And as a return,
- 39:46Speaker 2: I'm just giving that because I want good, good health,
- 39:53Speaker 2: good healthy for the trees, for the bushes to read,
- 39:58Speaker 2: to be reborn.
- 40:01Speaker 1: Okay, it's like.
- 40:02Speaker 2: When when it's everything turns yellow to brown, Yes, pray
- 40:06Speaker 2: for the rain to come. And sometimes we get way
- 40:10Speaker 2: too much pain and it floods, but it goes deep
- 40:14Speaker 2: down into mother Earth and that's what she brings.
- 40:17Speaker 1: This noose broad right right, So you were saying that
- 40:22Speaker 1: tobacco is then your culture. So what do you know
- 40:26Speaker 1: about sage at sage?
- 40:29Speaker 2: I use sage too when not on my channel. Anybody
- 40:33Speaker 2: needs a prayer, I'm smudging them and saying a prayer
- 40:38Speaker 2: to them again to the career where just all know
- 40:42Speaker 2: Jesus Christ. But here is me as an elder, medicine
- 40:46Speaker 2: of their claw and respect. You need honor my prayers.
- 40:51Speaker 2: I'll pray for you, and I hope your journey goes well.
- 40:54Speaker 2: Or I'm asking the Creator to bring healing for those
- 40:57Speaker 2: who are sick. Bring healing to mother Earth so we
- 41:01Speaker 2: don't have much rumble or much rain coming.
- 41:05Speaker 1: Now, Okay, Mama bear Claus, So you you're a Christian.
- 41:12Speaker 2: I am. I believe. I have been to many many
- 41:18Speaker 2: churches with families that had come out of the bres
- 41:24Speaker 2: and lived on a separate life. So when you go,
- 41:29Speaker 2: one family goes to this church, one goes to a
- 41:33Speaker 2: one goes to first Baptist, one goes to the Christianality church. Okay,
- 41:42Speaker 2: So I go back way back as the Roman days,
- 41:48Speaker 2: and I believe that, like I said, we are my
- 41:51Speaker 2: body is his temper.
- 41:54Speaker 1: Okay, so you go and you go through a whole.
- 41:57Speaker 1: I got what you're saying. You go through it's it's
- 42:00Speaker 1: just it is, but not in the traditional sense. It's
- 42:04Speaker 1: it's it's a it's a it's a line through time,
- 42:09Speaker 1: back to the to the beginning, and he's he's part
- 42:13Speaker 1: of that.
- 42:14Speaker 2: Yes, And because man keeps making Bible to Bible and
- 42:21Speaker 2: you're not teaching what is also in the force.
- 42:26Speaker 1: I don't think I've smiled this hard in such a
- 42:28Speaker 1: long time.
- 42:30Speaker 2: The Creator is as did. People said, how do you know?
- 42:38Speaker 2: I tried, and I explain and over and over and
- 42:41Speaker 2: over and over. You know, some have harder ways of understanding.
- 42:46Speaker 2: So I'm trying to think it is the best way
- 42:48Speaker 2: to say they understand.
- 42:50Speaker 1: Yes, you have to speak different languages to different people,
- 42:53Speaker 1: on their on their sense of perception, yes, on their
- 42:58Speaker 1: sense of perception or their level. So so where does
- 43:04Speaker 1: where does sasquatch or I'm gonna get over. I'm going
- 43:07Speaker 1: to remember one of these days because I had another
- 43:09Speaker 1: gentleman on satanga. Oh my god, satanga, Where where is
- 43:15Speaker 1: their connection with Jesus.
- 43:18Speaker 2: Spiritually?
- 43:21Speaker 1: Okay? What does it mean to them?
- 43:23Speaker 2: To them? He honors them both. But again, there's member
- 43:31Speaker 2: there are some aggressive. They don't want to believe because
- 43:34Speaker 2: they husband and wife with part not proper communication. So
- 43:46Speaker 2: one would leave on one stayed with the creator end
- 43:52Speaker 2: up making a tree more out. So your tree branches
- 43:57Speaker 2: are out, children, yourself, and other partners. So they have
- 44:06Speaker 2: and this is why I say they do travel. They
- 44:09Speaker 2: can't swim, they can't go through portals.
- 44:12Speaker 1: They can't go through.
- 44:14Speaker 2: Yes they can. And it's also like I told them
- 44:18Speaker 2: the camera the TV, this is a power.
- 44:24Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you, baby, I'm with you. I'm digging.
- 44:30Speaker 2: If they have high energy, yes, that you can speak.
- 44:35Speaker 2: You can hear them when they're speaking in your head
- 44:40Speaker 2: if your mind is open.
- 44:43Speaker 1: Okay, do you so what differential, what differentiates is what
- 44:49Speaker 1: differentiates us from them? Is this something that we forgot?
- 44:54Speaker 2: Yes?
- 44:56Speaker 1: Okay, okay, can you give me an examp of what
- 45:00Speaker 1: we've forgotten? Something that won't be too deep or or
- 45:04Speaker 1: that you that you that you can't you cannot Okay,
- 45:06Speaker 1: I'm sorry, we've already reached it. Yeah, I though it
- 45:09Speaker 1: took forty four minutes. But so okay, let me ask
- 45:14Speaker 1: you this question. Then I'll try to find a way
- 45:16Speaker 1: to ask it. Do we have the ability to find
- 45:19Speaker 1: it again. Yes, good good, And I imagine it starts
- 45:24Speaker 1: with love and understanding for others as well as yourself. Yes,
- 45:29Speaker 1: good good. So I'm a little closer.
- 45:33Speaker 2: Patience, patience, trust and peace.
- 45:39Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's what people need the most, is
- 45:42Speaker 1: peace within themselves because if you can get there, any.
- 45:46Speaker 2: Peace with your inner self before it the true eye.
- 45:50Speaker 1: The true eye. Yes, to ask yourself the real questions,
- 45:54Speaker 1: the ones that are painful to actually actually ask. And
- 45:59Speaker 1: when you do that, to use some Eastern mysticism, because
- 46:02Speaker 1: they have their own kind of way to it to
- 46:04Speaker 1: it as well, don't they. Yes they do, Yes, they do,
- 46:09Speaker 1: and they but they just use maybe a different syntax
- 46:13Speaker 1: or a different way of explaining it, but it kind
- 46:15Speaker 1: of leads to the source. Correct.
- 46:18Speaker 2: Correct?
- 46:19Speaker 1: Then, am I asking good questions?
- 46:21Speaker 2: Yes, you're okay. I just have to watch what I'm saying.
- 46:25Speaker 1: Oh so I'm.
- 46:29Speaker 2: I like to say again, No, it's okay.
- 46:32Speaker 1: It's okay. I respect. Like I told you, everything I
- 46:35Speaker 1: do is with love and respect. I try like the
- 46:38Speaker 1: people who come on who've had bad encounters I tried
- 46:40Speaker 1: to make I try to make them reconnect with humanity
- 46:44Speaker 1: because they are so outside of themselves with their with
- 46:47Speaker 1: their fear that they won't go back to do what
- 46:50Speaker 1: they love, which you know, a lot of people in
- 46:51Speaker 1: America enjoy the outdoors, fishing, being with their family, picking thing.
- 46:55Speaker 1: They can't do it anymore. So that's what I try
- 46:58Speaker 1: to do, is just say you come on, if you
- 47:00Speaker 1: want to, you can tell me about it. And I
- 47:03Speaker 1: like to make them laugh because I think laughter is
- 47:07Speaker 1: one of the people say it's the greatest medicine. It's
- 47:09Speaker 1: but it's very powerful. It's a very powerful medium to
- 47:13Speaker 1: make people reconnect to everybody themselves as.
- 47:18Speaker 2: Well, because it's very important to smile or to laugh.
- 47:26Speaker 2: Sometimes people laugh when they're nervous or when they're in pain,
- 47:31Speaker 2: or when they're in pain.
- 47:32Speaker 1: Well, a lot of I'm a stand up comic. I've
- 47:35Speaker 1: done it many times and you learn a lot about
- 47:38Speaker 1: human psychology doing that kind of thing. And a friend
- 47:42Speaker 1: of mine from India, he was like, yeah, you hit
- 47:44Speaker 1: the time, but you don't realize is that all like
- 47:47Speaker 1: stand up comedy kind of comes from pain, you know?
- 47:52Speaker 1: He says that you can't you know, like when we
- 47:56Speaker 1: were sick or when something really bad happens amongst we
- 48:00Speaker 1: have a small group from people all over the world actually,
- 48:02Speaker 1: and we have this joke group that we write in
- 48:04Speaker 1: and we write ideas and talk to each other through
- 48:07Speaker 1: hard times and and once we kind of like get
- 48:11Speaker 1: that out of the way, we're here for you, buddy,
- 48:14Speaker 1: you know kind of thing, then we're like a you know,
- 48:16Speaker 1: look at your dumb head.
- 48:20Speaker 2: They don't know, I don't really want to say this.
- 48:27Speaker 2: They don't know how to accept the laughter. Who people.
- 48:36Speaker 1: True true because.
- 48:41Speaker 2: It's hit they hit it too deep down. And now
- 48:47Speaker 2: some of it could be because of anger, some can
- 48:50Speaker 2: be because of a mishap.
- 48:52Speaker 1: Social pressure. Social pressure, yes, and a lot of that.
- 48:57Speaker 2: A lot of people do have social depression.
- 49:02Speaker 1: Dude, excuse me. It's one of my idioms that I say.
- 49:06Speaker 1: It's one of my words that pop out. I'm a
- 49:09Speaker 1: nice I'm a child of the nineties, So dude comes
- 49:11Speaker 1: out a lot. You understand what are you picking? Are
- 49:20Speaker 1: you picking up what I'm putting down? That's fantastic. Yeah,
- 49:25Speaker 1: I noticed that too. Like there's a lot of group think,
- 49:30Speaker 1: Like there's there's some type of.
- 49:34Speaker 2: I would say that. Yes, your museer intro is very nice.
- 49:42Speaker 1: Thank you.
- 49:43Speaker 2: You still need to bring a little more louder. What
- 49:47Speaker 2: do you mean, people don't realize different music from hard
- 49:55Speaker 2: rock metal. They think it's noise, crazy noise.
- 50:00Speaker 1: No, it's not. It's beautiful.
- 50:04Speaker 2: It can be, it can be yes to certain people. Remember,
- 50:10Speaker 2: all digital natives enjoy drum mm hm.
- 50:15Speaker 1: Flute melody, melody. Yes, I'd like to listen to the Ekerous.
- 50:22Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of the Ekeros from like Peru.
- 50:25Speaker 1: When people take mother ayahuasca and they it gives them
- 50:30Speaker 1: a kind of I would you say, they follow the
- 50:33Speaker 1: they follow this song and the song enables them to
- 50:38Speaker 1: to not feel so alien to themselves and it actually
- 50:42Speaker 1: helps them get through it.
- 50:45Speaker 2: Yeah, and it has.
- 50:53Speaker 1: It's so beautiful. That's so beautiful. I love that that
- 50:58Speaker 1: that that that is a that is actually reminds me
- 51:01Speaker 1: of a picture of an album cover from Let Me
- 51:05Speaker 1: See It's called The band is called Gojira j I
- 51:09Speaker 1: r A in.
- 51:13Speaker 2: Phone in. There is a lot of digital Natives men
- 51:21Speaker 2: and women that are coming now, like uh Tanya would
- 51:28Speaker 2: she's a comedian and she's also a proud Native mother.
- 51:34Speaker 1: Uh huh.
- 51:35Speaker 2: And her husband Joe Wood the U for nation creed Nation.
- 51:43Speaker 2: They do the drums.
- 51:46Speaker 1: Do you see this what I was telling you?
- 51:48Speaker 2: Yes? And the mind, the mine and this is the
- 51:54Speaker 2: tree of the impossible, okay.
- 51:59Speaker 1: Because it's called fond Savage means the savage child, the
- 52:03Speaker 1: savage child. And their music is all about connecting with
- 52:09Speaker 1: mother nature, love life, being Yes, Gojira and they're from
- 52:14Speaker 1: France and they very heavy, very beautiful. People don't realize
- 52:19Speaker 1: that there's a lot of beauty and heaviness. There's a
- 52:23Speaker 1: band that I would that I would love to turn
- 52:26Speaker 1: you on to that maybe you would like to be
- 52:29Speaker 1: interested in. And the band is called Yab Yob and
- 52:34Speaker 1: this is a song, Yeah Yob. And the song is
- 52:38Speaker 1: called Marrow m A R R O W okay, and
- 52:44Speaker 1: it's about a twenty minute song and it's just kind
- 52:47Speaker 1: of like says that we're all one and the marrow
- 52:51Speaker 1: of everything, what we are is within the marrow of
- 52:54Speaker 1: our bones and we are that and that is us
- 52:57Speaker 1: and it's I love this kind of music. It's very beautiful,
- 53:01Speaker 1: it's very melodic, it's very heavy rhythmatic. It's not it's
- 53:05Speaker 1: not that it's very expansive, right, No one gets it,
- 53:11Speaker 1: just me.
- 53:14Speaker 2: My grandson has said, Nino or Nana, did he tell me?
- 53:21Speaker 2: Because I like playing my guitar and I taught myself.
- 53:25Speaker 2: I said, that's good. I told you, teach yourself. And
- 53:31Speaker 2: my son's a left handed so he turned his guitar
- 53:34Speaker 2: side down to learn to play.
- 53:36Speaker 1: Yeah, like Jimi Hendrick did the same thing.
- 53:39Speaker 2: I thought.
- 53:40Speaker 1: I taught myself guitar as well. I'm also I'm also
- 53:43Speaker 1: a painter. I also paint, yes, ma'am. Let's see if
- 53:46Speaker 1: I can find I'll show you some of my paintings.
- 53:49Speaker 2: My grandson when he and his band go to different ones,
- 53:56Speaker 2: he're like and people are like in the like a
- 54:01Speaker 2: mosh pit.
- 54:02Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, big fan used to be when I
- 54:04Speaker 1: was younger. It hurts now.
- 54:07Speaker 2: My children. And you know I told him, I said, music,
- 54:10Speaker 2: that is your way, that is your path right now. Yes,
- 54:15Speaker 2: enjoy it as you can. I don't allow other ones
- 54:19Speaker 2: come in your ear and say it has is negative.
- 54:23Speaker 2: That's the devil. No, yes, not.
- 54:27Speaker 1: Let's see which one is it I just had. Okay,
- 54:30Speaker 1: it's not this one. That's my private one. Here we go.
- 54:33Speaker 1: I'll show you a few. I did this one day
- 54:35Speaker 1: while under the influence of a certain plant medicine in
- 54:41Speaker 1: the Netherlands. I found it later in my life because
- 54:44Speaker 1: I was unable to when I was younger, too much,
- 54:47Speaker 1: too much anxiety with inside of me. And I was
- 54:51Speaker 1: with my ex wife and I said, I want to
- 54:53Speaker 1: become a painter, and she said, go for it.
- 54:56Speaker 2: Beautiful.
- 54:58Speaker 1: They got better with time. I haven't been able to
- 55:00Speaker 1: to get back to it because of the money thing,
- 55:02Speaker 1: but I will against. And I'm sure one of my
- 55:04Speaker 1: favorites hear this one here, this one here is my favorite.
- 55:13Speaker 2: That is beautiful. Yes, and you know the wild Mananga,
- 55:20Speaker 2: the Big saus much. I love sceneries like that really
- 55:26Speaker 2: why Why is because they feel warm? Yes, and I
- 55:32Speaker 2: mean reunite with family.
- 55:35Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, it doesn't come from and it does like
- 55:41Speaker 1: my background. Yes, yes, I love it. And it doesn't
- 55:45Speaker 1: come from like something. It's it's from something I've seen.
- 55:48Speaker 1: But it's not like I'm looking at it. It comes
- 55:51Speaker 1: from my mind.
- 55:52Speaker 2: I just you saw a vision and somewhere in your
- 55:59Speaker 2: time you were there and something told you to do
- 56:04Speaker 2: it planted so you had certain images that briefly you
- 56:09Speaker 2: saw and then you still had yours there. So that's
- 56:13Speaker 2: when you started painting.
- 56:14Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, you do have to know the technique. You
- 56:18Speaker 1: do have to know how to mix. You kind of
- 56:23Speaker 1: have to know that it's not You're not painting a tree,
- 56:25Speaker 1: you're painting like an optical illusion.
- 56:29Speaker 2: Uh. From topic, say you can get lost?
- 56:32Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, it is one of the most freeing things ever.
- 56:39Speaker 1: And also being on stage and having a joke, a
- 56:42Speaker 1: joke work for you is also being lost or being
- 56:45Speaker 1: in a band and you guys are just playing it
- 56:47Speaker 1: and you it could be super complicated, but you don't
- 56:50Speaker 1: even know. You're just there and everyone feels it. And
- 56:54Speaker 1: it's it's palpable. It's a weird thing, yes, and it's
- 56:58Speaker 1: it's interconnected. It's very strange.
- 57:01Speaker 2: One energy can bring up another to recharge.
- 57:06Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know what it is, something about me.
- 57:08Speaker 1: It just wants to express something I'm having a good
- 57:11Speaker 1: time in life to express really, yes.
- 57:17Speaker 2: But some some hide it deep and they just don't
- 57:22Speaker 2: because they've got too much hardship and too much controlling
- 57:27Speaker 2: and don't know how to express it.
- 57:29Speaker 1: They're too afraid of what others think. But not in
- 57:32Speaker 1: an egoistic way.
- 57:34Speaker 2: It's not an e W I say, learn yourself to speak.
- 57:44Speaker 1: Yeah, or life doesn't happen to you, it happens for
- 57:46Speaker 1: you exactly. These are things I really love, things that
- 57:51Speaker 1: as soon as you say, I know you've given up
- 57:52Speaker 1: to think there's these are certain certain things that certain
- 57:56Speaker 1: people have said that have meant something to me immensely.
- 57:59Speaker 1: Am I life? Where I go, Oh that's what it is?
- 58:02Speaker 1: Oh I forgot? You know. Some certain plant medications will
- 58:06Speaker 1: tell me, dude, you're doing fine. And there's sometimes that
- 58:10Speaker 1: to say to me you need to straighten up, you
- 58:12Speaker 1: need to get your ship together. It can, it can,
- 58:17Speaker 1: it can beat you up, it can, and it can hurt.
- 58:20Speaker 1: And then you wake up and you go what was
- 58:21Speaker 1: that all about? And then there's times where it's like, dude,
- 58:23Speaker 1: you're doing Dude, you're you're fine. What are you stressing about?
- 58:28Speaker 1: You're good to go?
- 58:28Speaker 2: Exactly?
- 58:30Speaker 1: Can I ask you a question?
- 58:32Speaker 2: Yes?
- 58:33Speaker 1: What is what is the message that is often said
- 58:37Speaker 1: to you by the forest people?
- 58:40Speaker 2: Why are they? Why don't the humans understand?
- 58:45Speaker 1: Why don't the humans understand? Good? Question? Yeah? And the
- 58:50Speaker 1: thing is then you would then I guess a question
- 58:52Speaker 1: from somebody could just the first one to pop in
- 58:56Speaker 1: my head with it so I know it's a lower
- 58:57Speaker 1: question would be then what am I so us to understand?
- 59:00Speaker 1: And that's what you need to understand. Is that to
- 59:06Speaker 1: understand something. Yeah, it's hard to describe, but I know
- 59:09Speaker 1: what it means. If you know what I mean, you
- 59:11Speaker 1: know what it means. The twist to say it is
- 59:15Speaker 1: almost impossible. You can kind of hint.
- 59:19Speaker 2: At it the way you say it's not comprehending. But
- 59:23Speaker 2: when you want to think and allow it to come
- 59:27Speaker 2: m then no one understands the way you said it.
- 59:33Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's trippy. So it is trippy.
- 59:38Speaker 1: So why did you create the channel?
- 59:42Speaker 2: Because I've fought for years and I've had sons that
- 59:45Speaker 2: I sponsored and they said, Mama, give your knowledge, share
- 59:50Speaker 2: this wisdom.
- 59:51Speaker 1: It's the same thing Owiza told me. She told me
- 59:54Speaker 1: the same thing. She said, you are the last of
- 59:56Speaker 1: your kind and you need to share this to the
- 59:57Speaker 1: next generation.
- 59:59Speaker 2: I am.
- 1:00:02Speaker 1: Wow.
- 1:00:03Speaker 2: My mother has passed in the Creator and Mother Earth.
- 1:00:06Speaker 2: I just took in my baby sister and I lost
- 1:00:11Speaker 2: a year and I couldn't remember my children. My husband.
- 1:00:17Speaker 2: I am married to my junior high school husband. He
- 1:00:23Speaker 2: has stuck by me day by day. Doesnt ask question me.
- 1:00:28Speaker 1: I always wish for that. I always wish for that.
- 1:00:30Speaker 1: I did wish for that a long time ago when
- 1:00:32Speaker 1: I tried and I trust me from that.
- 1:00:36Speaker 2: This one is you just need to listen.
- 1:00:40Speaker 1: Two to myself. Yeah, to know, to know that the
- 1:00:47Speaker 1: knowledge is within and I just need to follow that
- 1:00:50Speaker 1: correct due, why do you? Why do you?
- 1:00:53Speaker 2: What are you?
- 1:00:54Speaker 1: What are you doing to me?
- 1:00:55Speaker 2: I read?
- 1:01:00Speaker 1: I mean that ironically. I mean that ironically.
- 1:01:03Speaker 2: Your is very very blue.
- 1:01:07Speaker 1: Okay, what does that mean?
- 1:01:09Speaker 2: Very powerful? Very strong?
- 1:01:15Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. I needed to hear that. Sometimes
- 1:01:19Speaker 1: you need to hear certain things. And there's a certain
- 1:01:21Speaker 1: person that directed me towards you, and I promised. She said,
- 1:01:24Speaker 1: don't tell her, and she said, you need to talk
- 1:01:27Speaker 1: to her. You're the perfect person to talk to her.
- 1:01:28Speaker 1: And I go, really, I'm the perfect person. Okay, this is.
- 1:01:33Speaker 2: I think I know who you're talking about.
- 1:01:36Speaker 1: Okay, well we'll mention we'll not mention it on the
- 1:01:39Speaker 1: recording because she asked me that too, and I will
- 1:01:41Speaker 1: abide by her wishes. Yes, of course, she is a blessing.
- 1:01:49Speaker 1: She's a wonderful person. And I try to help her too,
- 1:01:53Speaker 1: you know, she she has things that everyone has. That's
- 1:01:56Speaker 1: what I try to do too, because when you when
- 1:01:59Speaker 1: you've walk through help which I have, uh in here,
- 1:02:03Speaker 1: which I have really have some people call it depression
- 1:02:06Speaker 1: and anxiety, and that's exactly what I had. I've been
- 1:02:08Speaker 1: to war. I've been to war. I've seen things. I've experienced.
- 1:02:13Speaker 2: Part of your journey. I was part of your path.
- 1:02:16Speaker 2: You had to go to secede for you to come out. Sorry,
- 1:02:21Speaker 2: I'm no, it's fine.
- 1:02:22Speaker 1: No, it's fine. You're you're you're not speaking something to
- 1:02:25Speaker 1: me that I don't understand.
- 1:02:27Speaker 2: Because you still do patience and don't let yourself be
- 1:02:35Speaker 2: certain things.
- 1:02:36Speaker 3: You're like, yes, sorry, No, it's funny, you're the reason's funny.
- 1:02:51Speaker 1: It's very simple. It's funny because I'm looking back at myself,
- 1:02:55Speaker 1: just things you were saying to me, my consciousness has
- 1:02:57Speaker 1: said to me, or I have said to myself. And
- 1:03:03Speaker 1: it's not that I don't want to listen. It's just
- 1:03:04Speaker 1: sometimes I'm lazy. That's to be a black.
- 1:03:10Speaker 2: Just not understanding the purpose.
- 1:03:13Speaker 1: Okay, all right. We can't say the purpose because we
- 1:03:16Speaker 1: can't even expound it verbally. But there's a purpose to
- 1:03:20Speaker 1: reach the higher self, to become the higher to be,
- 1:03:23Speaker 1: to become that which you are. It could be it
- 1:03:27Speaker 1: could be interesting. I like that. Do you think there'd
- 1:03:31Speaker 1: be a possibility that you come back on again. Sure, okay,
- 1:03:35Speaker 1: well it was. It was quite a difficult journey to
- 1:03:38Speaker 1: get you here. You were saying things and I was like,
- 1:03:40Speaker 1: what is she saying? And like and then I go,
- 1:03:42Speaker 1: here's the thing, here's the link. We'll figure out a time.
- 1:03:46Speaker 1: I'm on here, where are you? And I'm like, I'm
- 1:03:48Speaker 1: in the class. I'm teaching people English.
- 1:03:52Speaker 2: Okay, I'm teaching people English.
- 1:03:54Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:03:55Speaker 2: When I got there, I was like, is he a teacher?
- 1:04:00Speaker 1: Yes, I am a teacher.
- 1:04:04Speaker 2: I was trying. I was trying to see before which
- 1:04:07Speaker 2: I didn't ask permission, please forgive me, but I did.
- 1:04:12Speaker 2: I did do like teaching teacher. I didn't see maths
- 1:04:19Speaker 2: or no numbers.
- 1:04:22Speaker 1: It's language. So I'm like, translation, yes I do. You're
- 1:04:32Speaker 1: a multi glat too, speaking nine native languages, and you
- 1:04:35Speaker 1: understood the chin chin means, which is pretty wild to me.
- 1:04:37Speaker 1: And there's other words that I'm learning on peck pitch ah,
- 1:04:43Speaker 1: pitch is oh my god, peck is dog, and pitches.
- 1:04:48Speaker 1: I can pitch oh tick tick, yes, that's pitch. Yeah,
- 1:04:55Speaker 1: that's my own words I'm learning. They mix a lot
- 1:04:57Speaker 1: of the Mayan with the Spanish. Here uh uh. There's
- 1:05:03Speaker 1: there's so many little words that I'm learning, and I'm
- 1:05:06Speaker 1: on an interesting journey. I really want to go out
- 1:05:09Speaker 1: to the Mayan communities and speak with them and get
- 1:05:11Speaker 1: their stories. I really do, I really really really do.
- 1:05:14Speaker 2: I will say when you do, be patient, okay, and
- 1:05:19Speaker 2: knowing that you're in this culture. It's it's peace and
- 1:05:28Speaker 2: they are very deep in their culture. The ones that
- 1:05:31Speaker 2: are still there.
- 1:05:33Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they still wear their native attire, the white
- 1:05:38Speaker 1: with the flowers on it and stuff. Yeah, very very
- 1:05:41Speaker 1: beautiful people.
- 1:05:42Speaker 2: Very I still I am my claws, my fans from
- 1:05:50Speaker 2: the bearers in here, and I always wear in my
- 1:05:54Speaker 2: turquoise to ground me still because being a medicine woman,
- 1:05:59Speaker 2: do you still have to be grounded? The men needs
- 1:06:04Speaker 2: they do them too. You see them with turquois.
- 1:06:08Speaker 1: Oh interesting, Yeah, they wear they wear a certain hat,
- 1:06:12Speaker 1: they wear certain outfits.
- 1:06:15Speaker 2: Certain tribals. They them the world where the as military
- 1:06:22Speaker 2: or governments say fatigues.
- 1:06:27Speaker 1: I've even wanted a pyramid here too. That's not on
- 1:06:30Speaker 1: the map. Well it is, but it's not like a
- 1:06:32Speaker 1: tourist one. And that was an interesting there.
- 1:06:36Speaker 2: It's there, yes, but they don't recognize it.
- 1:06:43Speaker 1: Whose they, I will.
- 1:06:45Speaker 2: Say, the world, the government they don't.
- 1:06:49Speaker 1: I don't think they recognize it for what it really
- 1:06:51Speaker 1: is other than some type of monetary thing. But it's
- 1:06:54Speaker 1: something much that.
- 1:06:56Speaker 2: It's the star people.
- 1:06:58Speaker 1: Oh, you can say probably a little bit about the
- 1:07:01Speaker 1: incas and stuff too, can't you about the incas? Right? Okay,
- 1:07:05Speaker 1: we're gonna We're gonna go back. I'm definitely gonna have
- 1:07:07Speaker 1: you back on if you're willing to do so.
- 1:07:10Speaker 2: Fine.
- 1:07:11Speaker 1: It's so very nice to have met you, and you've
- 1:07:14Speaker 1: said things that make more sense to me. Well, things
- 1:07:18Speaker 1: already know that just needed to be said to me.
- 1:07:20Speaker 1: Sometimes sometimes hearing something that you already know allows you
- 1:07:24Speaker 1: to take that step forward correct and I want.
- 1:07:28Speaker 2: To And also it teaches you your mind. I know I've
- 1:07:33Speaker 2: done that mm hmmm, prepared yourself.
- 1:07:39Speaker 1: Yes, yes, very much. I want to thank you so
- 1:07:43Speaker 1: very much for joining me today. Much love to you
- 1:07:47Speaker 1: and your family. And yes, and I'll see you again
- 1:07:51Speaker 1: next time. Okay, guys, I hope you enjoyed this one
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