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Colorado Senator Lynda Zamora · Richard Randall Show

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  Speaker 1: Let's come to Denver State Legislature and we'll talk with
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  Speaker 1: Senator Linda Zamora.
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  Speaker 2: Linda, two big stories there.
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  Speaker 1: One of them had to do with law enforcement officers
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  Speaker 1: and they just always make it harder to enforce laws.
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  Speaker 2: That was the other day.
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  Speaker 1: But the one a lot of people are really talking
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  Speaker 1: about now, red Flag law expansion, heads to the Colorado
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  Speaker 1: House after the Senate.
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  Speaker 2: Approved that would have been on Tuesday.
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  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure you were not one of those who
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  Speaker 1: is approving that, but I could be wrong.
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  Speaker 2: Talk to us about that red Flag law if you would.
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  Speaker 3: Senator Zimora, well, good morning, thank you for having me
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  Speaker 3: on the show, and I'll just let you know that
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  Speaker 3: it's really hard to hear you, so hopefully I capture
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  Speaker 3: your questions. But yes, we are talking about Senate Bill
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  Speaker 3: twenty six zero zero four. That is Senator Sullivan's bill.
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  Speaker 3: It is concerning who may petition the court order for
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  Speaker 3: an ERBRO, which is an extreme risk protection order and
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  Speaker 3: currently and this is another extension of one of Senator
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  Speaker 3: Sullivan's bills where it allows healthcare providers if they see
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  Speaker 3: a citizen who is they have a concern of the
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  Speaker 3: might harm himself or others, they will file an IRPO,
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  Speaker 3: and that is basically taking their weapon away. And this
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  Speaker 3: bill takes it even further and it allows it broadens
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  Speaker 3: the list of petitions to include K through twelve schools,
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  Speaker 3: higher education institutions, and healthcare facilities. And so it's opening
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  Speaker 3: up this aperture of who can file. Gee, do you
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  Speaker 3: see any anything wrong with this or any issues with this?
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  Speaker 1: I have to just say, you know, I use X
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  Speaker 1: all the time every day, swear to God every day,
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  Speaker 1: especially since Minneapolis and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I will see an ICU nurse here, a nurse over here.
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  Speaker 2: There's somebody else.
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  Speaker 1: Every day there is somebody who is in medicine who
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  Speaker 1: is saying, well, I wouldn't treat a MEGA person if
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  Speaker 1: they came in here. I wouldn't treat a Trump person
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  Speaker 1: if they came in here.
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  Speaker 2: She's yeah, I can see a lot of problems there.
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  Speaker 1: And also it would seem to me, and I think
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  Speaker 1: you had talked about this previously, it might mean that
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  Speaker 1: they're going to be people who should seek help, but
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  Speaker 1: they wouldn't do it because they were afraid of a
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  Speaker 1: law like this.
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  Speaker 3: Right, it could have a chilling effect such that if
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  Speaker 3: you have someone and this happened in the military. I
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  Speaker 3: don't for your listeners that don't know my background, I
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  Speaker 3: served twenty five years in the Air Force, and thank.
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  Speaker 2: You for that.
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  Speaker 3: There's you know, there's people out there that have mental
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  Speaker 3: issues and they need to seek mental health. In the
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  Speaker 3: military community, we would have our security clearances.
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  Speaker 1: And.
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  Speaker 3: There's members that would not go and seek help for
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  Speaker 3: the fear that their security clearances would be negatively impacted,
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  Speaker 3: and so they would get help. And this is one
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  Speaker 3: of those bills where I believe this it's very similar.
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  Speaker 3: Someone needs help. However, if they think that healthcare provider
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  Speaker 3: is going to take their weapon and leave them defenseless,
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  Speaker 3: they won't seek help.
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  Speaker 2: This I get so frustrated with this.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to go over to the House and then
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  Speaker 1: we'll track with some of the representatives.
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  Speaker 2: Over there how that goes.
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  Speaker 1: What are some of the other big things that are
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  Speaker 1: working their way through the legislature, especially with you being
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  Speaker 1: in the House, Senate, I mean sorry, the Colorado Senate,
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  Speaker 1: and I do want to thank you for your military
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  Speaker 1: service as well. What are some of the other things
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  Speaker 1: that you're keeping your eye on that we should probably
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  Speaker 1: have on our radar as well.
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  Speaker 2: Senator Zimora.
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  Speaker 3: Well, we also had yesterday. It was a bill for
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  Speaker 3: it dealt with immunizations. So this is the Democrat's response
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  Speaker 3: to Bobby Kennedy's with the you know, taking off some
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  Speaker 3: of the vaccines off the list, and they are the
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  Speaker 3: Democrats are responding with having the state pay for some
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  Speaker 3: of these vaccines. So we're seeing that.
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  Speaker 1: And government is never big enough for these people, do they?
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  Speaker 1: I know you do, I know you know your compatriots
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  Speaker 1: over in the House do as well. Certainly the people
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  Speaker 1: listening to the program here today do try to live
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  Speaker 1: within our means. It does not seem like the people
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  Speaker 1: in the legislature, obviously, the governor, et cetera. You know,
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  Speaker 1: they always think they can try to burrow into Tabor
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. But when these bills are working their
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  Speaker 1: way through Linda, is there any talk ever about what
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  Speaker 1: the cost is going to be and how it will
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  Speaker 1: be a cost onto the taxpayers that they are serving,
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  Speaker 1: you are serving as well.
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  Speaker 3: Well. It's stunning. And going back to SB twenty six,
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  Speaker 3: there's therefore the red flag law. Senator Sullivan said that
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  Speaker 3: there was no uh, there was no what do you
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  Speaker 3: call it? A physcal note? So and I was researching,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm thinking you are opening up the aperture of
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  Speaker 3: who can file an IRVO. That means you're increasing the demand.
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  Speaker 3: And I questioned this, so for the taxpayer, what does
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  Speaker 3: that mean? That means you're going to increase those that
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  Speaker 3: can file reports, and then you're going to have You're
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  Speaker 3: going to have monetary and non monetary costs to the taxpayer,
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  Speaker 3: such as increasing judicial workload and staffing, increase court appointed
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  Speaker 3: defense lawyers, by the way, they said their response to
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  Speaker 3: me saying, but the costs, we're going to increase it.
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  Speaker 3: But it's free. It if and one of my concerns
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  Speaker 3: was if someone gets falsely accused, such as I take
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  Speaker 3: my tile to their first grader teacher. My child is
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  Speaker 3: talking about me having a weapon, that first grade teacher
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  Speaker 3: gets concerned, files an IPO on me falsely, and then
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  Speaker 3: as a person who has been falsely accused, it's the
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  Speaker 3: presumption of guilt. In America, we are innocent until proven guilty.
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  Speaker 3: But in this case, now I have to incur all
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  Speaker 3: the costs to go through court. And Senator Sullivan said,
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  Speaker 3: but it's free, And I said, who pays for the defense?
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  Speaker 3: They said, the state? I said, And who gives the
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  Speaker 3: state the money, the taxpayer. So it's just stunning how
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  Speaker 3: they think they zero it out in their logic. And
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  Speaker 3: so going back to that example, for this bill, you
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  Speaker 3: have an increase in court appointed defense lawyers, increase in
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  Speaker 3: law enforcement time and resources because they're going to serve
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  Speaker 3: the info. Then you have the gun storage and man management,
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  Speaker 3: which costs money, lawsuits from the foss lid pers accused,
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  Speaker 3: IPO reports, increased demand for IRPO and program administration. And
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  Speaker 3: then you have compounded costs from the previous bill of
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  Speaker 3: last year from SB twenty five zero zero three, and
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  Speaker 3: that's where it bans certain weapons such that some people
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  Speaker 3: may never ever get their their weapon back. And then
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  Speaker 3: you have public education and training. Do I need to
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  Speaker 3: go on? I can I know about that?
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  Speaker 2: That is the thing.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna have to go to a break
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  Speaker 1: here and thank you for because you carved out time.
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  Speaker 1: You're very generous to help inform your constituents and the
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  Speaker 1: other folks listening here today. The list would be very
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  Speaker 1: long if we started getting into all the things that democrats.
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  Speaker 1: It's relentless. It seems like to me, I'll let you
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  Speaker 1: get back to work. I know, you're very busy, and
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  Speaker 1: we'll talk to you soon going down the road. That's
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  Speaker 1: Senator linda'simor, and she does a great job, and it
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  Speaker 1: didn't accentuate enough. She had been on the program previously
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  Speaker 1: a couple of times, and I had accentuated her military
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  Speaker 1: service at that point, and I probably should have mentioned
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  Speaker 1: it before she had to bring it up herself.
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  Speaker 2: That's kind of poor form on my part.