Latest / Cosmic Peach / PHANTOM FRIDAY! Case #9
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Take my advice, you have to be very careful if
- 0:06Speaker 1: you call out to one of the debt all of
- 0:11Speaker 1: them can hear you.
- 0:35Speaker 2: Welcome back to Phantom Friday. This is case number nine
- 0:41Speaker 2: and it is a little update on some of the
- 0:45Speaker 2: paranormal experiences I've been having. Cinury Turning from the Madison Seminary,
- 0:52Speaker 2: Tommy from the Let's Get Freaky podcast was nice enough
- 0:56Speaker 2: to have me on to give a little update on
- 0:59Speaker 2: some of the Krey shit that's been going on, and
- 1:03Speaker 2: so much more. Let's get right into it.
- 1:10Speaker 3: Okay, guys, welcome back. I am super excited to welcome
- 1:14Speaker 3: Julia back to the show aka the Cosmic Peach. How
- 1:18Speaker 3: are we welcome back to Let's Get Freaky.
- 1:21Speaker 2: Hi, I'm so excited. I've been looking forward to talking
- 1:25Speaker 2: to you for a while now.
- 1:26Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, since you reached out and be like yes,
- 1:29Speaker 3: because I always have a fun conversation. Sometimes the technology
- 1:33Speaker 3: God's play with us. They've been playing with us so far.
- 1:37Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's actually kind of creepy because I recorded
- 1:41Speaker 2: an episode like a few days ago and it sounded okay,
- 1:44Speaker 2: But today, for some reason, it sounds like I'm on
- 1:47Speaker 2: the other side.
- 1:48Speaker 3: Yeah, short stranger things. It's like you're in there upside down.
- 1:55Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much, I'm underwater. It's cool. But I'm so
- 2:01Speaker 2: excited because I first the first time I came on
- 2:07Speaker 2: and talked to you, I told you about like growing
- 2:09Speaker 2: up in a haunted house, and like sometimes I feel
- 2:11Speaker 2: like things just follow me or follow members of my family,
- 2:15Speaker 2: and so anytime I talk about it, I feel like
- 2:20Speaker 2: Steph ends up happening to me just by talking about it.
- 2:25Speaker 2: So but I'm obsessed with it, like you, I still
- 2:28Speaker 2: want to know, and I still want to learn, and
- 2:30Speaker 2: I still want to talk to people about their experiences.
- 2:33Speaker 2: But you would think I would have learned my lesson
- 2:37Speaker 2: by now, but I have not. And I'm just a
- 2:40Speaker 2: haunted person. I think so, And just break in if
- 2:46Speaker 2: you have any questions. But I recently went to go
- 2:51Speaker 2: visit my family in Ohio, and when I go visit them,
- 2:55Speaker 2: they always plan a bunch of stuff for us to do.
- 2:58Speaker 2: Every single Day's like, load did multiple things plans for
- 3:02Speaker 2: us to do. So the day that I landed there,
- 3:06Speaker 2: we were going to have a haunted day. So as
- 3:10Speaker 2: soon as I landed, we were going to go to
- 3:13Speaker 2: this cemetery. It's a super famous cemetery and do like
- 3:18Speaker 2: a cemetery tour, and then we were going to go
- 3:21Speaker 2: eat at a haunted House restaurant, and then we were
- 3:25Speaker 2: going to go investigate Madison Seminary, which one of the
- 3:31Speaker 2: guests you've had on previously has talked to you about
- 3:34Speaker 2: Madison Seminary.
- 3:37Speaker 3: Interesting.
- 3:38Speaker 2: Do you remember how the mosure?
- 3:41Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 3:42Speaker 2: And so she went to Madison Seminary investigated there as well.
- 3:46Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So we went there and it's everything she said.
- 3:53Speaker 3: It was wow, Wow, that's cool. That's a perfect day
- 3:59Speaker 3: by everything you just said that tick tick, Yes.
- 4:04Speaker 2: Like that's what I was thinking. Yeah, And my family
- 4:08Speaker 2: is just like me, like, yes, we have had really
- 4:11Speaker 2: scary things happen to us. Yes, we kind of grew
- 4:13Speaker 2: up in the haunted house whatever, but we're still like
- 4:17Speaker 2: super curious about it because once you've seen it for
- 4:21Speaker 2: yourself and you know that it's real, it just peaks
- 4:23Speaker 2: your curiosity even more, like you want to just know
- 4:26Speaker 2: more and experience more, like is this really real? And
- 4:31Speaker 2: it is? But so the I always check the weather
- 4:36Speaker 2: before I go on a trip because I want to
- 4:37Speaker 2: know what closed to pack, and the entire time I
- 4:40Speaker 2: was supposed to be there was supposed to be like
- 4:42Speaker 2: seventy five, eighty degrees, super sunny, wonderful. Even the day
- 4:48Speaker 2: that I landed, it was supposed to be really nice weather.
- 4:51Speaker 2: But somehow, the second I get into Ohio on the plane, crash,
- 4:58Speaker 2: thunder rain, It's pouring and lightning. The freaking turbulence. I
- 5:04Speaker 2: thought I was praying to Jesus. I thought I was
- 5:05Speaker 2: gonna die, and just awful. I land it kind of
- 5:11Speaker 2: clears up, but for the rest of the day that
- 5:14Speaker 2: day it was like silent hill weather, misty, foggy, cold,
- 5:21Speaker 2: like you barely could see a hand in front of
- 5:23Speaker 2: your face. The fog was so thick. And it was
- 5:26Speaker 2: not supposed to be like that, Like the forecast was
- 5:29Speaker 2: like sunny, seventy five, you know, gorgeous weather, and I'm
- 5:35Speaker 2: in a crop top in overalls and it's freaking sixty
- 5:39Speaker 2: degrees and misty and cold. And I was like, well,
- 5:44Speaker 2: the weather showed up for our haunted day. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 5:50Speaker 2: So I was just laughing about it, and I was like, oh,
- 5:53Speaker 2: the weather really showed up. It's such a creepy day. Whatever.
- 5:57Speaker 2: So my cousin and I decided the first stop is
- 6:01Speaker 2: this cemetery and it's a super famous cemetery in Cleveland, Ohio.
- 6:06Speaker 2: It's called the lake View Cemetery and there's presidents buried there.
- 6:11Speaker 2: There's there's an investigator. His name is Elliott Ness, and
- 6:17Speaker 2: he investigated like the Bay Harbor Butcher or whatever they
- 6:22Speaker 2: called him. It was supposed to be. He was kind
- 6:25Speaker 2: of like Jack the Ripper of Cleveland. And yeah, he
- 6:30Speaker 2: investigated that guy and just a lot. So he was
- 6:33Speaker 2: pretty famous. And he's buried there. And then one of
- 6:38Speaker 2: my conspiracy theory holy grails that I didn't even know
- 6:41Speaker 2: was buried there is the Rockefellers. So like all the
- 6:46Speaker 2: Rockefellers are buried in that cemetery. What is that?
- 6:52Speaker 3: Sorry? What what is that? What is the look like?
- 6:58Speaker 2: Wait till because okay, So if any of your listeners
- 7:04Speaker 2: are are conspiratorial minded, that the second I said Rockefeller,
- 7:09Speaker 2: their eyebrows went up and they sh was you know,
- 7:13Speaker 2: they started big pharma medications from petroleum. They did, they
- 7:20Speaker 2: did so much shady shit and they were super super
- 7:23Speaker 2: rich and then like they they were essentially in control
- 7:31Speaker 2: of everything at one point and still are really John D.
- 7:37Speaker 2: Rockefeller and all of them. So you would think that
- 7:40Speaker 2: they would be like their bodies would be like hidden
- 7:43Speaker 2: away and some like ye, like you'd have to have
- 7:47Speaker 2: a code to get into the cemetery something. Nope, it's
- 7:50Speaker 2: just open to the public, like anybody could roll up
- 7:54Speaker 2: on their bodies. It was really actually crazy because I
- 7:58Speaker 2: knew the cemetery would famous. I really wanted to go
- 8:01Speaker 2: because I knew Elliot Ness was buried there and I
- 8:04Speaker 2: think he's interesting, and also President Garfield is buried there
- 8:08Speaker 2: and he has a huge memorial, and so that's why
- 8:11Speaker 2: I wanted to go. And I was just walking around
- 8:14Speaker 2: and stumbled upon literally because it was foggy and I
- 8:20Speaker 2: could barely see, and I was walking up. Oh my gosh,
- 8:23Speaker 2: it was like a movie. I was walking up and
- 8:26Speaker 2: out of nowhere, this like twenty foot tall megalithic headstone
- 8:33Speaker 2: pops up and it is an obelisk, a twenty foot
- 8:38Speaker 2: maybe thirty foot tall obelisk, and I'm looking up at
- 8:43Speaker 2: it and I'm like, what the fuck And I look
- 8:46Speaker 2: down and it's like Rockefeller. Wow. I straight up got
- 8:52Speaker 2: the chills. I got my phone out. I was like,
- 8:54Speaker 2: oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, it's
- 8:56Speaker 2: the Rockefella's fucking bodies, and it was a gaggle love them.
- 9:01Speaker 2: I walked around, like they have the main obelisk and
- 9:04Speaker 2: then all the bodies are buried in a half circle
- 9:07Speaker 2: around it. So you walk up to the little tombstones,
- 9:12Speaker 2: and they have dead babies, dead Rockefeller babies. They've got aunts,
- 9:17Speaker 2: grandma's cousins that like John, all of them there, they
- 9:22Speaker 2: all go there. Isn't that crazy?
- 9:26Speaker 3: Yeah? Wow, that's wild.
- 9:31Speaker 2: Yeah it was. And I was kind of like in
- 9:36Speaker 2: awe at first, but then I was like walking around
- 9:38Speaker 2: and reading all the names and stuff. And they have
- 9:42Speaker 2: the semicircle of like the lesser important Rockefellers, and then
- 9:46Speaker 2: right in the dead center is like John D and
- 9:51Speaker 2: then his wife and then another person I can't remember,
- 9:55Speaker 2: but his sons didn't even get to be in the
- 10:00Speaker 2: the center. They were on the outside with like the
- 10:03Speaker 2: big dead babies and the ants and the cousins and stuff.
- 10:07Speaker 2: But I mean, I had straight up chills now. Before
- 10:13Speaker 2: I stumbled upon them. We had went to the President
- 10:18Speaker 2: Garfield Memorial and they have it set up like they
- 10:22Speaker 2: designed it to be like a cathedral, and so when
- 10:26Speaker 2: you walk inside, it looks kind of like a church,
- 10:28Speaker 2: and there's a big statue of President Garfield. But what
- 10:32Speaker 2: gave me the creeps is when you walk down into
- 10:37Speaker 2: the basement of the memorial, it's just a crypt with
- 10:43Speaker 2: a big gate enclosing his casket, like it's not in
- 10:49Speaker 2: the wall, it's not buried, it's not. It's literally his
- 10:53Speaker 2: casket and then a big gate around it. And you
- 10:57Speaker 2: could like reach your hand in and all touched the
- 11:00Speaker 2: casket with his freaking body in it. Wow, isn't that weird?
- 11:05Speaker 3: That is weird? How what you did he pass?
- 11:11Speaker 2: Let me google it, actually, because that is a good question.
- 11:15Speaker 2: His wife is buried next to him, and her casket
- 11:20Speaker 2: is right out in the open as well. He he
- 11:24Speaker 2: died September nineteenth, eighteen eighty one, okay, And they had
- 11:32Speaker 2: a contest to see who could come up with the
- 11:35Speaker 2: best design for his memorial, and the person I think
- 11:40Speaker 2: was from Ireland and he won the contest or whatever.
- 11:44Speaker 2: So they built his design and he designed like just
- 11:48Speaker 2: the two caskets, a little fence around him, and then
- 11:51Speaker 2: like this whole cathedral thing that comes up. It's like
- 11:54Speaker 2: three stories tall, and when you get to the very
- 11:58Speaker 2: top you can see all of Cleveland and it's so pretty.
- 12:01Speaker 2: At the top. But I was definitely not expecting to
- 12:06Speaker 2: go down there and see two real ass fucking just
- 12:09Speaker 2: sitting out there coffins.
- 12:10Speaker 3: That's unusual.
- 12:12Speaker 4: That's very wow because like a mausoleum, you go inside
- 12:19Speaker 4: and like their bodies are in the wall and it's
- 12:21Speaker 4: just a little plaque that says like President Garfield from
- 12:24Speaker 4: November to September or whatever.
- 12:27Speaker 2: But their freaking caskets were just sitting out there, and
- 12:34Speaker 2: it was just really creepy. It's one of the oldest
- 12:36Speaker 2: cemeteries ever. And I don't know if I'm just gonna
- 12:41Speaker 2: say this is red flag number one in this story.
- 12:47Speaker 2: I don't know why, but I decided to wear a
- 12:51Speaker 2: brand new pair of tennis shoes that day. Like when
- 12:54Speaker 2: I was on the plane. It was cool because I
- 12:56Speaker 2: was just sitting there. But then as we were walking
- 12:58Speaker 2: miles and miles through this graveyard, my and it was damp,
- 13:02Speaker 2: and my socks were wet, and my freaking toes started
- 13:05Speaker 2: rubbing on the shoes and I was getting a huge blister.
- 13:09Speaker 2: So tell me why. Me being already kind of a
- 13:14Speaker 2: haunted person, I took my tennis shoes off and was
- 13:17Speaker 2: walking barefoot around in the cemetery. Please fucking tell me
- 13:21Speaker 2: why I did that.
- 13:24Speaker 3: Oh no, you might.
- 13:29Speaker 2: Like so we were already we were deep off into
- 13:32Speaker 2: this bitch at that point, like we weren't by the
- 13:35Speaker 2: entrance to where like, oh, I can just walk on
- 13:37Speaker 2: the road, take my shoes off real quick and get
- 13:39Speaker 2: in the car. We were deep off in that bitch,
- 13:41Speaker 2: and I was like, I can't take one more step
- 13:43Speaker 2: in these shoes, took them off and was walking barefooted
- 13:46Speaker 2: across all these graves in this anciently old graveyard. I
- 13:51Speaker 2: walked barefoot right by the Rockefeller's fucking bodies.
- 13:54Speaker 3: And not many, not many people can say.
- 13:57Speaker 2: That, I don't know what possessed me to do that,
- 14:03Speaker 2: because you know, I don't know when you have your
- 14:06Speaker 2: shoes on, at least you're like, okay, well I have
- 14:08Speaker 2: shoes on. You know, the whole rubber sole thing. I'm
- 14:11Speaker 2: not connected, but they'refooted walking through there, and I just
- 14:16Speaker 2: couldn't take one more step because my feet were hurting
- 14:18Speaker 2: so bad. And my cousin was like, no, no, no,
- 14:20Speaker 2: we got to go see this one, and we gotta
- 14:22Speaker 2: go see this one. And I was like, well, fuck it,
- 14:24Speaker 2: I'm just gonna take my shoes off.
- 14:26Speaker 3: So, so was you planning to stay barefoot outside as well?
- 14:30Speaker 3: Was you going to keep them off the whole time?
- 14:33Speaker 2: I did? I kept them off until we got back
- 14:36Speaker 2: to the car, because, like I said, she picked me
- 14:39Speaker 2: up from the airport and we pretty much directly went
- 14:42Speaker 2: to the cemetery. So I still have my suitcase in
- 14:45Speaker 2: her car where I could like go run and put
- 14:47Speaker 2: on like a pair of flip flops or whatever. But
- 14:50Speaker 2: I had to walk back to the car. So I
- 14:53Speaker 2: was like, oh, well, I'll just take my tennis shoes
- 14:55Speaker 2: off for the rest of this excursion till we get
- 14:57Speaker 2: back to her car. I'll put a Paara flip flops on.
- 15:00Speaker 2: But I'm telling you red flag number one. Do not
- 15:05Speaker 2: walk barefooted through a cemetery. I repeat, do you not
- 15:10Speaker 2: walk barefooted through a cemetery? I So, do you know
- 15:16Speaker 2: how things like catch up with you, like in hindsight,
- 15:19Speaker 2: after things have had time to settle. At the time,
- 15:23Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I probably shouldn't be walking barefoot
- 15:25Speaker 2: through this really anciently old cemetery with all these Rockefeller bodies.
- 15:30Speaker 2: But at the time all I could think about is
- 15:32Speaker 2: a big, huge swore on my foot.
- 15:34Speaker 3: So I did that's nasty. We all know that feeling
- 15:38Speaker 3: when you've got a pair that it's hurting.
- 15:41Speaker 2: You got your socks are wet.
- 15:43Speaker 3: Yeah, it's uncomfortable.
- 15:45Speaker 2: God, it was just it was terrible. So when we
- 15:49Speaker 2: got back, we went and saw like Elliotness's grave and
- 15:52Speaker 2: like we saw some other graves. We got back in
- 15:55Speaker 2: the car and she was like, Okay, we're about to
- 15:56Speaker 2: make our reservation for the Haunted House restaurant. And I
- 15:59Speaker 2: was super excited. But before we left the cemetery, I
- 16:04Speaker 2: made everybody hold hands and I was like, I'm gonna
- 16:06Speaker 2: pray really quick. Thanks for letting us visit. We're just
- 16:10Speaker 2: you know, observing. Please don't follow us home, like, please
- 16:14Speaker 2: don't attach to us, you know, aimen. And I was
- 16:19Speaker 2: pretty sure that worked. But I just had a weird
- 16:21Speaker 2: feeling after we left the cemetery. I don't know if
- 16:24Speaker 2: it was just the weather or what, but it was
- 16:26Speaker 2: just a creepy vibe, a creepy day. And so we
- 16:32Speaker 2: went to the Haunted House Restaurant, which, by the way,
- 16:35Speaker 2: if you're ever in Cleveland, Ohio, you have to go.
- 16:37Speaker 2: It's amazing. Do you like horror movies?
- 16:41Speaker 3: Oh?
- 16:41Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, they literally dress up as horror movie characters
- 16:47Speaker 2: like Texas Chainsaw Massacre. They dress up as all of them,
- 16:50Speaker 2: and they serve you food and they pregin to like
- 16:54Speaker 2: saw your arms off and shit, and they play, I
- 16:57Speaker 2: know they play. They have like a million TVs all
- 17:00Speaker 2: playing different horror movies, and all of the food has
- 17:04Speaker 2: like blood, like fake blood on it, and like it's
- 17:07Speaker 2: a really good food. And they have like cocktails that
- 17:10Speaker 2: look like magic potions and stuff. It's so it's dope
- 17:14Speaker 2: as fuck. Anybody in the Cleveland area should go check
- 17:16Speaker 2: it out. But again, I am having my haunt today.
- 17:21Speaker 2: I'm in paradise. Nobody can tell me shit, and I'm
- 17:26Speaker 2: just not thinking of it. So they're like, Okay, we're
- 17:31Speaker 2: gonna all meet up now at the Madison Seminary, which
- 17:35Speaker 2: is open to the public, and it's been on a
- 17:39Speaker 2: bunch of different ghost Hunter shows, and the person you
- 17:44Speaker 2: interviewed before has even went there with her paranormal group.
- 17:47Speaker 2: And essentially you pay like twenty bucks per person and
- 17:54Speaker 2: you just go. They just let you go free in there.
- 17:57Speaker 2: No rules, no guy, I know, surveillance, nothing, So you're
- 18:04Speaker 2: just pretty much set loose in this place, and.
- 18:08Speaker 3: Can you film stuff as well? Can you film what
- 18:10Speaker 3: you're own?
- 18:10Speaker 2: Yeah, pictures, videos, You can do full on investigations in there.
- 18:16Speaker 2: You just have to pay the ticket at the door.
- 18:19Speaker 2: So my whole family, I'm talking little cousins, big cousin's brother,
- 18:24Speaker 2: everybody was there because we just liked to do these
- 18:27Speaker 2: kind of things together and it was starting to get cut.
- 18:31Speaker 2: We made the reservation for like eight thirty nine o'clock
- 18:35Speaker 2: at night, so it was already the sun was starting
- 18:38Speaker 2: to get low, and it was just fucking foggy. I'm
- 18:41Speaker 2: telling you, it was the creepiest shit just followed us
- 18:44Speaker 2: all day long, this misty, fucking foggy, weird vibe. And
- 18:50Speaker 2: so when we got there, we were all together at first,
- 18:57Speaker 2: and then we started splitting up and we at some
- 19:01Speaker 2: points I was alone, and they didn't really give you
- 19:05Speaker 2: any information before you just start walking around in there.
- 19:08Speaker 2: I had to do my own research on the place
- 19:11Speaker 2: after I got back home, and it's been like a
- 19:14Speaker 2: lot of things. It was an orphanage. It was kind
- 19:18Speaker 2: of like a reformatory where they housed like weird types
- 19:23Speaker 2: of inmates, like either honorall inmates or like the worst
- 19:27Speaker 2: inmate you could be, and they would like take those
- 19:31Speaker 2: ones and put them in there. It was a place
- 19:34Speaker 2: where if your husband died in the war, they would
- 19:38Speaker 2: let you live there if you were like widowed. At
- 19:41Speaker 2: one point it served as like a tuberculosis hospital, and
- 19:46Speaker 2: you know, like just it's been a million things. It
- 19:49Speaker 2: was a college at one point, and then at some
- 19:53Speaker 2: point a crazy guy broke in there and said the
- 19:56Speaker 2: place was full of demons and burnt it to a
- 19:59Speaker 2: crisp and they've been trying to refurbish it ever since then.
- 20:04Speaker 2: So when you walk in, it's sooty and the paint's peeling.
- 20:08Speaker 2: It looks like it has been charred, and then they
- 20:11Speaker 2: like have tried to fix it up over time. But
- 20:14Speaker 2: the vibe in this place is crazy. So much history
- 20:19Speaker 2: from the early eighteen hundreds. This place has been something
- 20:23Speaker 2: for somebody at some time, and so you know, it's
- 20:29Speaker 2: all fun and games. When you first get to a place,
- 20:31Speaker 2: you're like walking around like oh goes ta ha ha
- 20:34Speaker 2: ha ha, And then like the darker it gets, this
- 20:38Speaker 2: more scared you are And it was like a Scooby
- 20:43Speaker 2: Doo split up scene. We all looked at each other
- 20:46Speaker 2: and we were like, let's split up. Oh no, And
- 20:53Speaker 2: there is so so it's shaped like this, like a
- 20:56Speaker 2: double l. There's a corridor that runs in the middle,
- 20:59Speaker 2: and then like two wings that break off, and each
- 21:02Speaker 2: wing has three floors. So you could see how you'd
- 21:06Speaker 2: get fucking lost real quick in that bitch. I took
- 21:10Speaker 2: my cousin Brittany and my little cousin Evan, and all
- 21:15Speaker 2: we had were flashlights and our phones. We went room
- 21:19Speaker 2: by room and right before everybody split up, my brother
- 21:24Speaker 2: I was walking down this hallway and I started to
- 21:26Speaker 2: feel like I was like dry heaving a little bit,
- 21:29Speaker 2: and I didn't know if it was from the Haunted
- 21:31Speaker 2: House restaurant. I was like, fuck them, I got like
- 21:33Speaker 2: food poisoning, but I did. I had like this gagging.
- 21:37Speaker 2: I was like kind of like like I was gonna
- 21:39Speaker 2: throw up. And my brother yelled at me from down
- 21:43Speaker 2: the hall and he was like, hey, come in this
- 21:45Speaker 2: room and tell me if you feel anything. And so
- 21:49Speaker 2: I walked in the room and it got worse, like
- 21:52Speaker 2: my head started spinning and I got I was like,
- 21:55Speaker 2: I feel nauseous, like it's bad, and he looked got
- 22:00Speaker 2: his girlfriend and he was like, we all felt that
- 22:02Speaker 2: the second we came in here. So it hit me
- 22:06Speaker 2: in the hallway, and then as I got closer to
- 22:09Speaker 2: that room and my brother did not even see me
- 22:12Speaker 2: gagging or anything, and then he was like, come in
- 22:14Speaker 2: this room and tell me if you feel anything. Wow.
- 22:17Speaker 2: And he was in there feeling it too. So all
- 22:20Speaker 2: three of us at that moment in time felt like
- 22:23Speaker 2: we were just deathly ill when we went in this room.
- 22:27Speaker 3: Wow.
- 22:27Speaker 2: And then yeah, like later on that night, we went
- 22:32Speaker 2: back in there and it didn't feel like that at all.
- 22:35Speaker 2: So it was just happened to be in there when
- 22:40Speaker 2: we went in there the first time, but it didn't
- 22:42Speaker 2: feel like that when we went in there the second time.
- 22:45Speaker 2: But it was so that made me kind of scared
- 22:49Speaker 2: because I was like, there's definitely something here because I
- 22:52Speaker 2: feel sick. But then we did the Scooby Doo split up,
- 22:56Speaker 2: and then we couldn't find each other, and I was
- 22:58Speaker 2: pretty much walking around by my self at one point
- 23:00Speaker 2: looking for everybody in the dark. It was really scary.
- 23:06Speaker 3: That a wild dream.
- 23:11Speaker 2: It was horrible. They don't have any electricity in there
- 23:14Speaker 2: because that can interfere with people's investigations, so there's no
- 23:19Speaker 2: ac on. There's it's hot in there. Thank god. It
- 23:23Speaker 2: was cool that day and it was kind of misty.
- 23:26Speaker 2: But it's just like dead silent, no electricity, no air
- 23:30Speaker 2: running to the bitch. I mean, there's no way like
- 23:33Speaker 2: oh maybe I know it was. It's like cut off
- 23:39Speaker 2: from the world and it's in the middle of nowhere.
- 23:41Speaker 2: Like you can hear a freaking cricket fart outside, Like
- 23:45Speaker 2: that's how deep in the middle of nowhere it is. Yes,
- 23:49Speaker 2: I think that the nearest thing to it is one
- 23:52Speaker 2: a cemetery where they dumped all the bodies and unmarked graves,
- 23:56Speaker 2: and two a nursery where they grow like potatoes and shit.
- 24:01Speaker 2: So that's the only thing you have out there now
- 24:07Speaker 2: that we ran into another paranormal investigating group and they
- 24:10Speaker 2: had dowsing rods. Are you familiar with that?
- 24:13Speaker 3: Yep? Yep. So they're the rods that move as you're
- 24:18Speaker 3: asking questions and stuff.
- 24:19Speaker 2: Yes, have you ever used them? I have.
- 24:22Speaker 3: I know people to have and I've had good responses,
- 24:26Speaker 3: you know, because they're pretty cool and I mean they
- 24:28Speaker 3: seem to react sometimes to certain questions and interests.
- 24:33Speaker 2: I had never seen them in person before. I've never
- 24:37Speaker 2: held them or experienced them. And when we did our
- 24:40Speaker 2: Ghost Adventures episode, I told you in that episode, like
- 24:44Speaker 2: I'll go to a hunted place, but I ain't fucking around,
- 24:46Speaker 2: Like I'm not holding any dowsing rods. I'm not calling
- 24:50Speaker 2: anything out. I just want to walk around and see,
- 24:53Speaker 2: like if anything happens. But we ran into this other
- 24:57Speaker 2: paranormal investigator group shit had dowsing rods, and she was like,
- 25:01Speaker 2: for some reason, it only works for me and my daughter,
- 25:04Speaker 2: Like if my husband holds them, they'll just go sideways
- 25:07Speaker 2: on them and won't move. Now, the craziest thing is
- 25:12Speaker 2: we were all standing in the hallway. She was holding them,
- 25:16Speaker 2: and then she gave them to me, and I held
- 25:18Speaker 2: them for a split second just to see if she
- 25:21Speaker 2: could be manipulating them at all, because that's always in
- 25:24Speaker 2: the back of my mind, like, oh, they only work
- 25:26Speaker 2: for you, asshole. Are you fucking swinging around?
- 25:30Speaker 3: Like what are you doing?
- 25:32Speaker 2: So I held them in the way that they're made
- 25:36Speaker 2: in their design, you can't manipulate them, even if you
- 25:40Speaker 2: like you can swing them, but like you'd see your
- 25:42Speaker 2: hands moving. Yeah, so there's there's no way you can
- 25:48Speaker 2: manipulate them. They it has to be something else. Because
- 25:51Speaker 2: I held them and I like kind of swung them
- 25:53Speaker 2: around and I realized she was telling the truth, Like
- 25:55Speaker 2: you can't.
- 25:56Speaker 3: Are they quite loose or they is it quite?
- 26:00Speaker 2: They're loose as fuck. Like if you're holding them still
- 26:05Speaker 2: in your hands, they're they'll like they'll do a three
- 26:09Speaker 2: sixty on you, like, but you have to swing them around,
- 26:12Speaker 2: you know. And so if you're holding them really really
- 26:16Speaker 2: still and they're moving on their own and you're being still,
- 26:20Speaker 2: I don't see how, like how could you fake that?
- 26:24Speaker 2: You know what I mean? You'd have to literally take
- 26:27Speaker 2: your hand and like flip it around for it to move.
- 26:30Speaker 3: Yeah, So she kept.
- 26:32Speaker 2: Asking all these questions. My cousin held them and they
- 26:36Speaker 2: didn't move for her, My little my other little cousin
- 26:40Speaker 2: held them, they didn't move for her. Her husband held them.
- 26:43Speaker 2: They literally went sideways, like they wouldn't talk to him
- 26:46Speaker 2: at all. She holds them the free that it's answering
- 26:49Speaker 2: every question. It was the weirdest thing. If she said, like,
- 26:57Speaker 2: are you here with us? If it opened up, it
- 27:00Speaker 2: was a yes. And if they crossed over each other,
- 27:03Speaker 2: it was a no. And again, like to get them
- 27:08Speaker 2: to cross over like in an X form without moving
- 27:12Speaker 2: your hands at all. I just don't know how you
- 27:14Speaker 2: could fake something like that it would be really hard
- 27:17Speaker 2: to do that. So it said that there was like
- 27:21Speaker 2: demonic spirits in the attic and she just was asking
- 27:26Speaker 2: It gave me the creeps because she asked a question
- 27:30Speaker 2: and it was really really quiet. We were waiting for
- 27:33Speaker 2: them to move, and we just hear like a lady's
- 27:37Speaker 2: like kind of like a like that from down the
- 27:41Speaker 2: hallway while because you know, when you're waiting for it
- 27:45Speaker 2: to move or like waiting for an answer to everybody's
- 27:48Speaker 2: like super quiet, like are you here with us?
- 27:51Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 27:53Speaker 2: And it's like really quiet, and we just hear from
- 27:57Speaker 2: down the hallway.
- 27:58Speaker 3: Was there any one down the hallway?
- 28:00Speaker 2: Yo? That. That was the craziest thing because we all
- 28:02Speaker 2: looked at each other like.
- 28:07Speaker 3: That, Wow, did you hear that?
- 28:10Speaker 2: Did you freaking hear that? So I was like, all right,
- 28:14Speaker 2: that's enough with the dowsing rods, Thank you so much.
- 28:17Speaker 2: It was great meeting you. Fuck off to your side
- 28:19Speaker 2: of this hospital wing. I'm going over here because you're
- 28:22Speaker 2: conjuring some shit up and I'm not ready for it yet.
- 28:26Speaker 2: So that that was kind of the end of that.
- 28:30Speaker 2: We met back up with them later, but and they
- 28:33Speaker 2: were still doing their dowsing rods, but I was like,
- 28:35Speaker 2: you guys are giving me the fucking creeps and I
- 28:37Speaker 2: can't do this. So I got scared and I wandered
- 28:42Speaker 2: off by myself because they were still like, oh, let's
- 28:45Speaker 2: ask more questions, and I was like, I'm good on
- 28:47Speaker 2: the questions. I'm okay, I'm gonna go to another area.
- 28:53Speaker 2: And the crazy thing was I was walking around with
- 28:56Speaker 2: my phone and catching stuff and not really it until
- 29:00Speaker 2: I watched it back later, which is the craziest thing
- 29:04Speaker 2: because when you're there in the moment and you're scared
- 29:07Speaker 2: and you just kind of have your phone out, you're
- 29:09Speaker 2: not really paying attention. And then when I came back
- 29:13Speaker 2: home and I was editing the investigation so I could
- 29:16Speaker 2: post it for my Patreon listeners, I was I was like,
- 29:23Speaker 2: how did I not hear that? How did I not
- 29:25Speaker 2: see that? How did I? And it was right there
- 29:28Speaker 2: on my phone. It was kind of surreal actually, because
- 29:31Speaker 2: I was like, I was standing right there and I
- 29:33Speaker 2: didn't see that, ye or I was hear that. It
- 29:38Speaker 2: was It's creepy. I So when I walked off by myself,
- 29:44Speaker 2: I went into this bedroom and I could hear all
- 29:47Speaker 2: of them at the end of the hallway, still talking
- 29:50Speaker 2: and like socializing with that other paranormal group. And I
- 29:54Speaker 2: was being so quiet in there, and I just heard
- 30:00Speaker 2: on the phone. Didn't hear it while I was there,
- 30:03Speaker 2: but on the phone, I heard a man's voice and
- 30:06Speaker 2: it was like, ah, right behind me on my fucking iPhone.
- 30:13Speaker 2: I had literally have a fucking iPhone and it picked
- 30:16Speaker 2: it up and my human ears didn't hear, but my
- 30:19Speaker 2: fucking iPhone heard.
- 30:20Speaker 3: It's wild mm hmmm. And how how clear was was
- 30:24Speaker 3: it clearly like a man's voice?
- 30:27Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and no mistaken, Like if you heard it,
- 30:32Speaker 2: you'd be like, are you sure it wasn't you or what? No,
- 30:35Speaker 2: it was a dude, because it was like a like that,
- 30:40Speaker 2: and it wasn't me because I was breathing quietly. I
- 30:43Speaker 2: was trying to be really quiet, like investigating by myself
- 30:46Speaker 2: down there, and I could hear all of them at
- 30:49Speaker 2: the end of the hallway talking and just behind me,
- 30:52Speaker 2: you can just hear like.
- 30:53Speaker 3: Ah wow, because you definitely would have heard that, right, So.
- 30:58Speaker 2: You know, like what they say about like you can't
- 31:01Speaker 2: hear stuff in person kind of like an EVP, but
- 31:04Speaker 2: you can hear it later. Yeah, And I think that
- 31:07Speaker 2: was one of those moments, because right after that, we
- 31:10Speaker 2: all met back up and decided to go to the
- 31:13Speaker 2: next floor, and that's when it started getting really crazy.
- 31:17Speaker 2: We took a quick break because my little cousin Evan,
- 31:21Speaker 2: was like, this place is full of fucking asbestos and
- 31:23Speaker 2: we're gonna start hallucinating and they all thinking that we'reussyeing ghosts.
- 31:27Speaker 2: And I was like, all right, let's get a fresh
- 31:29Speaker 2: fresh some fresh air, and then we'll come back and
- 31:31Speaker 2: we'll go to the next floor. And he said that
- 31:38Speaker 2: when we went there, he was completely skeptical, didn't believe
- 31:43Speaker 2: in any of it. Was goofing off the whole time.
- 31:45Speaker 2: I had to keep yelling at him and being like, Evan,
- 31:48Speaker 2: stop messing around, because it's when something happens, you're gonna
- 31:53Speaker 2: get fucking scared and then you're gonna be freaking out.
- 31:56Speaker 2: And he was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, all take the
- 32:00Speaker 2: that's what he said, All take the lead. So we
- 32:04Speaker 2: go up to the second floor and this is where
- 32:08Speaker 2: it almost looked like the warden's office or something like.
- 32:11Speaker 2: It was just very official on the second floor and
- 32:14Speaker 2: I took a picture in the office, sitting at the desk,
- 32:18Speaker 2: and it was just really creepy in there, and we
- 32:24Speaker 2: started looking around and there were all these doors. You
- 32:27Speaker 2: would go in a room and there would be doors
- 32:30Speaker 2: that would lead to other rooms that you couldn't get
- 32:32Speaker 2: to from the hallway. It was weird. It was like
- 32:35Speaker 2: a maze in there. So we went in one room
- 32:39Speaker 2: to go out, and then through another door into this
- 32:45Speaker 2: little side hallway. It sounds confusing, but that's the best
- 32:49Speaker 2: way I can explain it. And the only reason I
- 32:51Speaker 2: add that little bit of detail is because I know
- 32:54Speaker 2: we were super alone in there. It was deadly quiet.
- 33:00Speaker 2: Nobody else was on the second floor, and nobody else
- 33:03Speaker 2: definitely had went through that little maze with us to
- 33:05Speaker 2: get over to the room we were standing at. And Evan,
- 33:10Speaker 2: who has taken the lead at this point, he was like,
- 33:15Speaker 2: you know, this is so fucking stupid, Like this is
- 33:18Speaker 2: like a like a haunted Halloween house that like they're
- 33:22Speaker 2: just trying to scare you, and there's nothing in here.
- 33:25Speaker 2: Look at all these scratches on the doors and stuff, which,
- 33:27Speaker 2: by the way, there is scratches on all the doors.
- 33:30Speaker 2: But I was like, Evan, whatever, we go to open
- 33:34Speaker 2: this door to this blue room. It's deadly quiet and
- 33:40Speaker 2: right by our faces on the wall. We just hear like, knock, knock, knocked,
- 33:47Speaker 2: not even kidding you, knocking on the wall right by
- 33:51Speaker 2: our faces as we were trying to get into the room.
- 33:55Speaker 2: So it was almost like you can't, like you can't
- 33:59Speaker 2: come in here.
- 34:00Speaker 3: I saw wonting.
- 34:02Speaker 2: Yes, that's how I saw it, because he was like,
- 34:04Speaker 2: this is so stupid, blah blah blah. He goes to
- 34:07Speaker 2: reach for the handle to walk in that room and
- 34:09Speaker 2: it's like not not like right by our faces, and
- 34:13Speaker 2: we looked at each other and we fucking dropped our
- 34:17Speaker 2: flashlights and fucking ran all the way down to the
- 34:21Speaker 2: other end of the hallway screaming because there was no
- 34:27Speaker 2: explanation for that what soever. And you know, what they
- 34:33Speaker 2: say about the three is like it's like a mocking
- 34:37Speaker 2: for the Trinity or whatever, and that's why demonic beings
- 34:41Speaker 2: will sometimes do things in threes. But I just it
- 34:46Speaker 2: was so surreal because we were talking. I was literally
- 34:50Speaker 2: just told him to stop goofing off because something's really
- 34:54Speaker 2: scary is about to happen. And then before the words
- 34:57Speaker 2: could even leave my mouth, he goes to open this
- 35:00Speaker 2: freaking door and it's like knocking on the wall at us.
- 35:04Speaker 3: What was his reaction?
- 35:07Speaker 2: He fucking farted and then ran for his life.
- 35:17Speaker 3: Oh well he did.
- 35:21Speaker 2: I knew it too because I heard him and then he.
- 35:25Speaker 3: He started that's amazing.
- 35:31Speaker 2: And then he was like all embarrassed.
- 35:35Speaker 3: She so cold.
- 35:37Speaker 5: I ran up to him and I was like, see
- 35:39Speaker 5: you haven't I told you? And he was like, Afford, yeah,
- 35:45Speaker 5: you ship your pants. He was so literally scared shitless.
- 35:55Speaker 3: Did that change his vibe as well after that happened,
- 35:57Speaker 3: But oh my.
- 35:58Speaker 2: God, he was really scared after that. But we didn't leave.
- 36:02Speaker 2: We didn't leave, like I made him stick it out.
- 36:05Speaker 2: I was like, we can take a little bit of
- 36:07Speaker 2: a break, but we're not leaving because it's just picking up.
- 36:11Speaker 2: You know. I did feel sick. I did hear some voices,
- 36:14Speaker 2: but until we got to that second floor and heard
- 36:16Speaker 2: it knocking on the wall, I was like, all right,
- 36:19Speaker 2: now we're getting to the biscuits and gravy. And he
- 36:24Speaker 2: did like he was like, I don't believe in this stuff,
- 36:27Speaker 2: but I don't know. There's no explanation for that. And
- 36:30Speaker 2: I got it all on my phone. The whole thing
- 36:34Speaker 2: is on my phone.
- 36:35Speaker 3: You can get the thought as well.
- 36:38Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I got I got it. So this
- 36:42Speaker 2: other paranormal group, it's embarrassing, but we screamed. Evan in particular,
- 36:48Speaker 2: screamed so loud. There was a group under us on
- 36:53Speaker 2: the first floor that ran up the stairs, ran down
- 36:56Speaker 2: the hallway and was like, what's happened? What happened? We
- 37:00Speaker 2: were like, it's knocking on the wall, blah blah blah,
- 37:02Speaker 2: and everything's like afforded. I was like, you don't have
- 37:06Speaker 2: to tell me.
- 37:07Speaker 3: That's the smell. That's the smell. He was like, yeah, but.
- 37:10Speaker 2: They're about to walk right into it. I was slapping
- 37:19Speaker 2: and scared at the same time. And then my cousin, Brittany,
- 37:23Speaker 2: she was like, look at my arm, dude, and she
- 37:25Speaker 2: rolled her sleeve up and she had massive goose bumps
- 37:28Speaker 2: and she was freaking terrified. But so we go down
- 37:34Speaker 2: this other hallway on the second floor, and there was
- 37:41Speaker 2: some other people kind of investigating around that time, so
- 37:44Speaker 2: we were trying to like avoid them and like go
- 37:48Speaker 2: somewhere quiet, so we weren't like interfering with each other stuff,
- 37:53Speaker 2: because like, if you're in the room over and that
- 37:55Speaker 2: some guy in their talks, you're gonna think you got
- 37:57Speaker 2: an EVP or something, so we try to separate ourselves
- 38:01Speaker 2: as much as possible. So we walked all the way
- 38:03Speaker 2: to the bottom where nobody was and we're looking around,
- 38:08Speaker 2: and the other investigators, I guess, got bored and left,
- 38:13Speaker 2: so it was just us in the hallway and my
- 38:17Speaker 2: cousin Brittany. I was just talking and she was like
- 38:20Speaker 2: and I was like what, and she said, listen really quiet.
- 38:25Speaker 2: You can't hear them growling. And I was like, hear
- 38:29Speaker 2: what growling? And she was like, just listen. And even
- 38:33Speaker 2: though I wanted to talk, like in a scary movie
- 38:36Speaker 2: you talk over it or you like put something over
- 38:38Speaker 2: your face and you're like, I'll just talk through the
- 38:40Speaker 2: scary part. I was doing that, like I didn't want
- 38:44Speaker 2: to hear it. But then I was like, no, I
- 38:46Speaker 2: need to hear it. And it was legit. It was
- 38:48Speaker 2: like cur and it was coming. It was like getting
- 38:53Speaker 2: closer and closer and closer to us. It was almost
- 38:59Speaker 2: like a grind, being like a growling. And she heard
- 39:02Speaker 2: it first, and she heard it a couple of times
- 39:06Speaker 2: and I didn't hear it at all, and then she
- 39:07Speaker 2: was like, no, be quiet, and then I heard it
- 39:09Speaker 2: and it was like like coming. We were at the
- 39:15Speaker 2: very end of the hall and it sounded real far off,
- 39:17Speaker 2: but then it sounded like it was slowly getting closer
- 39:21Speaker 2: to us.
- 39:22Speaker 3: As we stood there, could you see down the hole?
- 39:26Speaker 3: Could you see or was it dark?
- 39:29Speaker 2: It was so pitch black in there. All we had
- 39:32Speaker 2: were these flashlights, and so I was kind of shining it.
- 39:36Speaker 2: And then as I heard it getting closer, Brittany, either
- 39:42Speaker 2: Brittany did or Evan somebody said, everybody turned your flashlight off.
- 39:46Speaker 2: And so we were standing there in pitch blackness, just
- 39:50Speaker 2: listening for it, and we could hear it like coming
- 39:53Speaker 2: closer and closer and closer, and Evan, who farted, was
- 39:58Speaker 2: starting to get scared again and he was like, no, no, no, no, no,
- 40:01Speaker 2: there's a group of investigators down there. That's probably them.
- 40:05Speaker 2: So we start walking down the hallway to kind of
- 40:07Speaker 2: debunk it, like, okay, we'll see, like maybe they're they're
- 40:10Speaker 2: still down there. Every single room was empty, Oh wow,
- 40:15Speaker 2: the way down the hallway. Nobody was up there at all.
- 40:20Speaker 3: And you was hearing a clear growl mm hmm, mad.
- 40:26Speaker 2: Like a traveling growl too, Like it was sounded far away,
- 40:29Speaker 2: but then it started to sound like it was closer
- 40:32Speaker 2: to us, but we couldn't see anything. And sometimes when
- 40:35Speaker 2: you hear stuff, you can see orbs and shit. So
- 40:37Speaker 2: we turned our flashlights off because we wanted to see
- 40:40Speaker 2: if we could see anything. We didn't see it, but
- 40:43Speaker 2: we could hear it.
- 40:45Speaker 3: Wow.
- 40:46Speaker 2: And whoever is in charge of this place has a
- 40:48Speaker 2: sick fucking sense of humor because we go into one
- 40:51Speaker 2: room right after that happens, and there's a mother and
- 40:56Speaker 2: daughter in there and they're like, you have to go
- 41:00Speaker 2: in this closet and lock yourself in. And we're like, uh,
- 41:06Speaker 2: I'm okay locking myself into the closet, but we get
- 41:11Speaker 2: so we go just out of curiosity. We go up
- 41:14Speaker 2: to the closet and there's rules. There's literally rules for
- 41:18Speaker 2: locking yourself into the closet. One person out of time,
- 41:23Speaker 2: don't do this, none, don't this, blah blah blah, like
- 41:26Speaker 2: five different rules. If you're gonna lock yourself into the closet,
- 41:30Speaker 2: you have to do these five things. And we're looking
- 41:32Speaker 2: at each other like what is this, Like why are
- 41:35Speaker 2: there rules to locking yourself into this closet? We open
- 41:39Speaker 2: the door. They have mirrors all around. It's like there's
- 41:44Speaker 2: summoning shit there's ears from top to on the ceiling,
- 41:49Speaker 2: on all the walls, on the back of the door,
- 41:51Speaker 2: it's all mirrors. And there's a chair in the middle
- 41:55Speaker 2: of the closet and you're meant to turn your flashlight off,
- 41:59Speaker 2: go sit on the chair and lock yourself into that
- 42:02Speaker 2: closet and ask questions as you're staring at yourself in
- 42:06Speaker 2: a million mirrors.
- 42:08Speaker 3: Nah, I couldn't do that.
- 42:10Speaker 2: No, you gotta be really brave to want to do
- 42:16Speaker 2: some shit like that.
- 42:17Speaker 3: Yeah, that's wild, that's wild. I mean I've seen myself
- 42:21Speaker 3: in the mirror at night, and that's that's quite freaky
- 42:23Speaker 3: when you see yourself in the dark in the mirror.
- 42:26Speaker 3: So like in a place like that where you've got
- 42:28Speaker 3: that going on around you.
- 42:29Speaker 2: To see, like when mirrors face each other, they create
- 42:35Speaker 2: a portal. So you're not gonna catch me locking myself in.
- 42:42Speaker 2: And Evan went in there because I said, oh, Evan,
- 42:46Speaker 2: you don't believe in this stuff, why don't you go
- 42:48Speaker 2: in the closet? And he was like, no, fuck that,
- 42:50Speaker 2: And I made him go in the closet. I closed
- 42:52Speaker 2: the door on him and then I held the handle
- 42:55Speaker 2: so he couldn't get out, and he was freaking out
- 42:57Speaker 2: in there a little bit. I'm not it's sick or
- 43:00Speaker 2: twisted or being mean, but he has to learn that
- 43:03Speaker 2: this stuff is real, okay, because it is. So he's
- 43:08Speaker 2: all like, oh, this isn't real, this isn't real. And
- 43:10Speaker 2: then all this stuff is happening. He's getting freaked out,
- 43:12Speaker 2: and yes, I locked him in the closet. Whatever. He
- 43:15Speaker 2: didn't have a he didn't die, well, he didn't die.
- 43:19Speaker 2: So learning, he's learning never never trust even your family.
- 43:28Speaker 2: They will lock you in the devil closet.
- 43:32Speaker 3: I don't blame you. I would look my brother in
- 43:34Speaker 3: there as well.
- 43:34Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I pushed his ass in there and then
- 43:36Speaker 2: I closed his.
- 43:37Speaker 3: Door, and he would do the same to me. I'm
- 43:40Speaker 3: sure he would, so yeah, yeah, he.
- 43:43Speaker 2: Wouldn't ask any questions. I was like, hey, ask some
- 43:46Speaker 2: questions while you're in there, and he's like no, I'm okay.
- 43:49Speaker 2: And I was like, just one question, just ask one question.
- 43:53Speaker 2: He was like what question? And I was like just say,
- 43:56Speaker 2: are you with me? And he was like fuck no,
- 44:00Speaker 2: I want to get out of here. So I opened
- 44:01Speaker 2: the door. I was like, oh, you didn't want to
- 44:04Speaker 2: know if there was anything in there with you? In
- 44:06Speaker 2: the closed mirror closet in the dark. It was so scary.
- 44:11Speaker 2: I'm serious, it was so scary looking. I don't even
- 44:15Speaker 2: know why they have that set up there, but it's
- 44:17Speaker 2: a good place to have it if you are trying
- 44:19Speaker 2: to channel some shit.
- 44:20Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
- 44:22Speaker 2: They they claimed to see little tiny creatures that look
- 44:27Speaker 2: like leprechaun creatures at this place, like little two foot
- 44:30Speaker 2: three foot tall black glasses crawling around from room to
- 44:36Speaker 2: room at this place. And the guess that you had
- 44:41Speaker 2: on Heather when she went there, she did see that
- 44:45Speaker 2: she did see one of those creatures there.
- 44:49Speaker 3: Mm hmmm. And so that might have been what you
- 44:52Speaker 3: heard grounding then I see.
- 44:54Speaker 2: That's what I said too, because I was like, they're
- 44:57Speaker 2: seeing these little creatures or whatever. But but you know,
- 45:00Speaker 2: when it's so dark, your eyes like you were used
- 45:03Speaker 2: to see them with the flashlight and you turn it
- 45:05Speaker 2: off and you're pretty much like blind for a second.
- 45:08Speaker 2: If there was something, I couldn't see it because my
- 45:10Speaker 2: eyes were not adjusted enough. But yeah, they see creatures
- 45:16Speaker 2: running around in there. They hear voices knocking, the wheelchairs
- 45:20Speaker 2: roll around on their own. And then there's the attic,
- 45:26Speaker 2: which that was the last place we went because I
- 45:29Speaker 2: was scared because when we met the two chicks with
- 45:32Speaker 2: the dowsing rods, they said all the bad spirits were
- 45:35Speaker 2: in the attic. So I was nervous about going up there.
- 45:41Speaker 2: Just reaching the top of the stairs, going into the attic,
- 45:44Speaker 2: it's a whole different heaviness, like it's almost you walk
- 45:50Speaker 2: through the doorway and it just lays on you. It's heavy,
- 45:54Speaker 2: and so I didn't want to I was up there
- 45:57Speaker 2: for maybe five minutes because I just couldn't do it.
- 46:00Speaker 2: My two little cousins, Madeline and Jaden, they went. They
- 46:04Speaker 2: were all being brave or whatever because they're young and
- 46:06Speaker 2: they can do that, and I'm old, and I'm like
- 46:08Speaker 2: fuck this and want to leave. They went into this
- 46:12Speaker 2: room called the rape room. They call it that. I
- 46:15Speaker 2: don't know why they call it that, but they call
- 46:17Speaker 2: it the rape room. And both of them started freaking out.
- 46:21Speaker 2: And it wasn't them just being like little and like
- 46:24Speaker 2: sixteen and scared. They looked actually horrified, and they said
- 46:29Speaker 2: that their faces were tangling and that they couldn't open
- 46:32Speaker 2: their jaws, like they couldn't open their mouths, like their
- 46:35Speaker 2: face was frozen and it was tangling, and they started
- 46:39Speaker 2: like like trying to scream and they couldn't open their mouths.
- 46:43Speaker 3: Oh wow, And.
- 46:47Speaker 2: So we made them go out. We made them go
- 46:50Speaker 2: outside because they were freaking out too much. And they're like,
- 46:54Speaker 2: I get it. At first, it was kind of like
- 46:56Speaker 2: fun because we had our flashlights and it's a family
- 46:59Speaker 2: thing and we're doing But then stuff really like really
- 47:02Speaker 2: scary stuff started to happen, and we made the younger
- 47:04Speaker 2: kids go out because it's just that was just too much. Yeah,
- 47:10Speaker 2: and then my brother, Oh go ahead.
- 47:12Speaker 3: I was gonna say, you're starting to get at texts
- 47:14Speaker 3: like that, these are a lot of spiritual attacks now,
- 47:17Speaker 3: mm hmm.
- 47:19Speaker 2: And because we did this, Scooby Doo split up or whatever.
- 47:22Speaker 2: My brother and I didn't find this out till later.
- 47:25Speaker 2: Had already went up there before we got up there,
- 47:28Speaker 2: and they walked into that room and they didn't feel
- 47:32Speaker 2: anything physically, but they said it smelt like dead bodies
- 47:35Speaker 2: in that room, and they were like gagging from the smell.
- 47:39Speaker 2: They thought a dead animal had like crawled in the
- 47:41Speaker 2: wall and died, like it smelled so bad in that room.
- 47:46Speaker 2: But when we went up there, it didn't smell like anything.
- 47:50Speaker 2: But the girls couldn't move their face and their jaws
- 47:55Speaker 2: were locked.
- 47:57Speaker 3: That's wild.
- 47:59Speaker 2: So it's just and they called for what I don't
- 48:01Speaker 2: know if somebody actually got raped in there what, but
- 48:04Speaker 2: they call it the rape room. Yeah, And like my
- 48:08Speaker 2: brothers smelled dead bodies in there, and then my two
- 48:11Speaker 2: little cousins. They're super vulnerable because this is the first
- 48:15Speaker 2: time they've ever done anything like this, so maybe that's
- 48:17Speaker 2: why they got like a physical attachment or whatever. But
- 48:22Speaker 2: they both they were looking at each other and they
- 48:25Speaker 2: like they were like my vase. And then later we
- 48:28Speaker 2: asked them and they were like it was like tingling
- 48:29Speaker 2: and burning and we couldn't like open our mouths to scream,
- 48:33Speaker 2: and it was just really weird they did have when
- 48:39Speaker 2: it functioned as like a I don't know what it was.
- 48:44Speaker 2: It functioned as something to where they had like widowed
- 48:47Speaker 2: people and like prisoners and just some weird like just
- 48:50Speaker 2: hodgepodged a bunch of people in there and we're trying
- 48:53Speaker 2: to take care of them. And right next to the
- 48:57Speaker 2: rape room, there's this like guy in a cult gynecological
- 49:01Speaker 2: room and it's like the freakiest thing you walk in,
- 49:05Speaker 2: and there's one of those chairs with the stirrups, like
- 49:08Speaker 2: you put your legs in and like a little medical
- 49:10Speaker 2: tray and like all and I'm like, absofucktely not not
- 49:15Speaker 2: right next to the rape room.
- 49:17Speaker 3: Fuck that.
- 49:19Speaker 2: It just gives you the creeps.
- 49:21Speaker 3: Yeah, did you did you go in the rape room?
- 49:24Speaker 2: In the end, I went in and got those two
- 49:28Speaker 2: out because they were freaking out and I could hear them.
- 49:31Speaker 2: I didn't stay for too long because the second I
- 49:34Speaker 2: pulled those two out and we got back down to
- 49:36Speaker 2: the hallway, there was another group like waiting to get
- 49:39Speaker 2: in there for us to leave, because everybody wanted to
- 49:43Speaker 2: have an experience in that room because everybody talks about it.
- 49:48Speaker 2: But I did make my friend Tiffany go sit in
- 49:51Speaker 2: the guyano chair, and she said it wasn't a good vibe,
- 49:56Speaker 2: but I didn't. I was like, you go, you said
- 49:58Speaker 2: in it, I'm not gonna. I was like, blow up.
- 50:05Speaker 2: But yeah. So there was just a lot of little
- 50:08Speaker 2: weird things that happened, and they try to make it
- 50:11Speaker 2: family friendly, but they won't let anybody under twelve years
- 50:16Speaker 2: old in there because so many things have happened. At
- 50:21Speaker 2: one point, we were walking around and there was a
- 50:23Speaker 2: paranormal group that had like a one of the twisty
- 50:28Speaker 2: kind of flashlights. You have to twist it to get
- 50:31Speaker 2: the light to turn on, and they would say like,
- 50:33Speaker 2: if you're here, twist it and make the light come on.
- 50:36Speaker 2: And you could literally see the light dimming and then
- 50:41Speaker 2: coming back on. So either it was being twisted or
- 50:47Speaker 2: they were the spirit could mess with like whatever the
- 50:51Speaker 2: battery and the light, but you could see the light
- 50:54Speaker 2: slowly dim and then they would say, if you're here,
- 50:57Speaker 2: turning it back on, and it would like slowly get brighter,
- 51:00Speaker 2: not like a regular flashlight where it's just full brightness
- 51:03Speaker 2: and then off. Yeah, it was like manipulating it in
- 51:07Speaker 2: some way, like it would slowly get brighter and then
- 51:10Speaker 2: it would slowly turn itself back off. Just a million things,
- 51:16Speaker 2: and then the freaking as we're all in amazement at
- 51:20Speaker 2: this ghost turning the flashlight on and off, the owner
- 51:23Speaker 2: comes up behind us and it's like I ordered fourteen
- 51:27Speaker 2: Domino's pizzas and we're like, oh, that's so odd. So
- 51:31Speaker 2: like it's a fair normal ghost pizza. She had hot chocolate.
- 51:36Speaker 2: It was just so it was it was crazy, man,
- 51:40Speaker 2: What was.
- 51:40Speaker 3: A guy like that on that place? Because I'm imagining
- 51:44Speaker 3: I'm imagining. I don't know what I'm imagining. You gotta
- 51:47Speaker 3: be a special sort of person.
- 51:49Speaker 2: Yeah right, And like, so I didn't eat any of
- 51:53Speaker 2: the pizza because I was like, I just ate my
- 51:56Speaker 2: weight in Haunted House food from the Haunted House restaurant.
- 52:00Speaker 2: But so she goes away and we continue on our investigation.
- 52:05Speaker 2: Then she pops back up and she's like, hey, I
- 52:09Speaker 2: just want to let you know we got Pamela here.
- 52:11Speaker 2: She's doing tarot card readings on the first floor whatever.
- 52:16Speaker 2: And I was like, Okay, they got hot chocolate, they
- 52:18Speaker 2: got pizza, now they got tarot card readings. And Evan
- 52:22Speaker 2: just farted himself to death seeing a ghost Like this
- 52:25Speaker 2: is a lot to take in. So later I find
- 52:30Speaker 2: out that my brother went to go get a tarot
- 52:34Speaker 2: card reading after we all had split up, and he
- 52:38Speaker 2: said it was super like point on, like everything was.
- 52:43Speaker 2: She was like nailing it. All the stuff they asked
- 52:47Speaker 2: about she knew and whatever. And she does tarot card
- 52:52Speaker 2: readings in that very first room where I thought I
- 52:55Speaker 2: was gonna throw up in But when she was in there,
- 53:01Speaker 2: it didn't feel like that. But before she got there,
- 53:06Speaker 2: when the room was just empty, all of us felt
- 53:09Speaker 2: like there was something negative in that room.
- 53:12Speaker 3: That's when it affects all of you as well. How
- 53:15Speaker 3: can you explain that that what's the chances of that
- 53:18Speaker 3: happening that you'll suddenly feel it in that room at
- 53:21Speaker 3: the same time.
- 53:23Speaker 2: And then that lady just so my brother was like,
- 53:25Speaker 2: why do you do, like why this room? Because we
- 53:30Speaker 2: all had an experience in there, and she's like, Oh,
- 53:34Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm just drawn to it. And I'm like, yikes,
- 53:38Speaker 2: because we all wanted to puke in here a couple
- 53:41Speaker 2: hours ago before you showed up. Yeah, it's like, does
- 53:46Speaker 2: she want to do taro in there? Because like it's
- 53:48Speaker 2: easier to like, it's so such an open portal, like
- 53:52Speaker 2: literally energies are just walking in and out of that bitch. Yeah,
- 53:57Speaker 2: I don't know. It's interesting to think about, very interesting.
- 54:04Speaker 3: I mean, it sounds like obviously there's been so much history,
- 54:06Speaker 3: there so much dark energy, which we can imagine what
- 54:10Speaker 3: that creates, and man, that's wild. So it's fair to
- 54:14Speaker 3: say your brother's a believer.
- 54:15Speaker 2: Now, yeah, and my little cousin too, Evan, he's definitely.
- 54:21Speaker 2: So here's the thing, and here's what makes this haunted
- 54:25Speaker 2: day and then the rest of my trip we didn't
- 54:27Speaker 2: do any haunted shit. We did. I made everybody join
- 54:30Speaker 2: hands and pray after we left the Madison Seminary, and
- 54:35Speaker 2: then we just didn't think of it at all. After that.
- 54:37Speaker 2: We had a barbecue. The next day, we had a bonfire.
- 54:40Speaker 2: We did all the things, and then I came back home.
- 54:42Speaker 2: The day I came back home, I got all like
- 54:45Speaker 2: my brother and Evan because he farted and that's hilarious,
- 54:49Speaker 2: and my brother's girlfriend Rachel to get on a podcast
- 54:53Speaker 2: with me and just kind of talk about our experiences
- 54:55Speaker 2: because I knew I was gonna post it on Patreon
- 54:58Speaker 2: with the Investigator. And while we were on that podcast,
- 55:03Speaker 2: I said, just in passing, I was like, has anybody
- 55:06Speaker 2: experienced anything since we've come back home? Do you think
- 55:11Speaker 2: any of you have any attachments from being there? I
- 55:14Speaker 2: said this, not even thinking about it, like just asking,
- 55:19Speaker 2: because I really hadn't been home that long myself, like
- 55:23Speaker 2: less than a day. And my brother was like, well,
- 55:28Speaker 2: you know something, one thing did happen, but I don't
- 55:31Speaker 2: know if it's paranormal. He's being all like skeptical, like, oh,
- 55:34Speaker 2: I don't know if it's paranormal. But Rachel and I
- 55:39Speaker 2: went to a concert, and that's his girlfriend. Rachel and
- 55:42Speaker 2: I went to a concert and at like one or
- 55:46Speaker 2: two in the morning, while we were still out, my
- 55:49Speaker 2: daughter called me and all the smoke detectors in the
- 55:53Speaker 2: house were going off for no reason.
- 55:58Speaker 3: Two o'clock in the morning.
- 56:00Speaker 2: Yeah, and they could She couldn't figure out why they
- 56:02Speaker 2: were going off or how to get them to turn
- 56:04Speaker 2: back off. They were just beeping, all of them like
- 56:08Speaker 2: in unison at the same time. And she called my
- 56:11Speaker 2: brother and was like, all the smoke detectors are going off.
- 56:15Speaker 2: You know what's weird about that? Is the last major
- 56:20Speaker 2: occurrence of anything to ever happen at the seminary was
- 56:24Speaker 2: that crazy guy who said it was full of demons,
- 56:26Speaker 2: broken and set it on fire. Yeah, and then all
- 56:33Speaker 2: of his smoke detectors were going He said that had
- 56:37Speaker 2: never happened before. Ever, that that never had happened before.
- 56:42Speaker 3: And that was more than one. So there was a
- 56:44Speaker 3: lot of smoke detectives going off at the same time.
- 56:48Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 56:49Speaker 3: Wow.
- 56:51Speaker 2: Now Evan said that he didn't have anything weird happened
- 56:56Speaker 2: to him after we went, but I, like a freaking idiot,
- 57:02Speaker 2: had to bring it up and say something had to
- 57:05Speaker 2: walk barefoot through the graveyard, had to then follow it
- 57:08Speaker 2: up by going to this freaking haunted mansion and that
- 57:14Speaker 2: night after that podcast, I shouldn't even brought it up,
- 57:18Speaker 2: but it's good to know that he experienced something too.
- 57:21Speaker 2: You know, when you're watching TV and you're like halfway
- 57:25Speaker 2: watching it and like you think you close your eyes
- 57:28Speaker 2: for a second, you wake up in the movies like credits, yeah, okay,
- 57:32Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm like, oh, I'm just gonna rest this
- 57:35Speaker 2: one eye and then like before you know it, then
- 57:38Speaker 2: fucking movie's over. And yeah, I was kind of, you know,
- 57:41Speaker 2: in one of those type sleeps, and I had like
- 57:44Speaker 2: kind of dozed out and woke back up, and I
- 57:47Speaker 2: was like, oh shit, the movie's over. So I went
- 57:49Speaker 2: to go rewind it back to the part I was
- 57:51Speaker 2: at before I fell asleep, just to probably fall asleep again,
- 57:55Speaker 2: but whatever. And so I was like still trying. I
- 57:59Speaker 2: was like fighting sleep, like trying to stay awake and
- 58:01Speaker 2: like watch this movie. And I closed my eyes for
- 58:05Speaker 2: a split second and I just saw a flash of
- 58:08Speaker 2: like an old lady's face, like a real old like
- 58:13Speaker 2: scraggly hair, wrinkled up, old lady's face and then one
- 58:18Speaker 2: specific tombstone from the Rockefeller grave site. Oh man, it
- 58:28Speaker 2: was horrifying. Like I closed my eyes and I saw
- 58:34Speaker 2: her face and I saw her headstone, and then I
- 58:37Speaker 2: like freaked out and woke back up. And I literally
- 58:41Speaker 2: had only closed my eyes for a few minutes because
- 58:43Speaker 2: I was watching the movie, and I was like, I
- 58:45Speaker 2: wasn't asleep, I wasn't dreaming, like it's only been a
- 58:48Speaker 2: few minutes later in the movie, so I wasn't dreaming,
- 58:53Speaker 2: like I had literally just barely closed my eyes and
- 58:56Speaker 2: I just saw like a flash, and then I freaked
- 58:59Speaker 2: me out and I woke back up mind and I
- 59:04Speaker 2: so I went back to the video I had made
- 59:08Speaker 2: on my phone of the cemetery tour, and I scrolled
- 59:12Speaker 2: all the way to the part where I'm walking up
- 59:14Speaker 2: on the Rockefeller thing, and I scrolled to that headstone
- 59:19Speaker 2: that I just saw a flash of in my mind,
- 59:21Speaker 2: and the name was like Beulah something or other whatever Rockefeller,
- 59:26Speaker 2: And so I google it because there's no fucking pictures
- 59:31Speaker 2: on headstones, there's just names. So I googled this bitch's name,
- 59:37Speaker 2: and a fucking picture pops up of her, like old
- 59:40Speaker 2: like there's a lot of young pictures of her, but
- 59:43Speaker 2: then there's like one like right before she bit the dust,
- 59:46Speaker 2: like an old, scraggly old lady, and it looked just
- 59:49Speaker 2: like the face I saw when I had like closed
- 59:52Speaker 2: my eyes for a second. And I was like, mother fucker,
- 59:56Speaker 2: I knew it, and I knew I shouldn't have fucking
- 59:58Speaker 2: took my shoes off when I was walking around over there.
- 1:00:01Speaker 3: Wow.
- 1:00:03Speaker 2: What makes it worse is so that happened one night
- 1:00:10Speaker 2: and then I and then I was so freaked out.
- 1:00:12Speaker 2: I went into my bathroom in my bedroom and I
- 1:00:16Speaker 2: just started praying and rebuking, and I was like, I
- 1:00:18Speaker 2: rebuke you. You have you cannot stay here. You do
- 1:00:22Speaker 2: not have permission to attach me. You do not have
- 1:00:25Speaker 2: permission to stay here with me. And I thought that
- 1:00:28Speaker 2: was good. The next night, I'm laying on my stomach
- 1:00:34Speaker 2: and it's really hot in Oklahoma in the summertime. Okay,
- 1:00:39Speaker 2: we got fans on, we got everything on, but I
- 1:00:42Speaker 2: just have like a sports spra and my underwear on
- 1:00:45Speaker 2: and nothing else because I'm burning up hot. I'm sweating
- 1:00:48Speaker 2: to death. And so you know what they always say,
- 1:00:50Speaker 2: if you don't have the covers, on, then they can
- 1:00:52Speaker 2: get you. That's so fucking true, because I was like,
- 1:00:56Speaker 2: I don't want to sleep without the blankets on because
- 1:00:59Speaker 2: I'm scared, but I'm sweating and I'm so hot. So
- 1:01:02Speaker 2: I just pulled it down for a second, and I
- 1:01:05Speaker 2: was laying on my stomach and my whole back was
- 1:01:07Speaker 2: out and right in the middle of my back under
- 1:01:12Speaker 2: my shoulder blades, in the center of my back, I
- 1:01:15Speaker 2: felt three taps and again yes, and I felt three
- 1:01:23Speaker 2: taps on my back and I like sprung up like this,
- 1:01:27Speaker 2: and I looked over at my husband because I was
- 1:01:29Speaker 2: hoping to Jesus that he was tapping me because like
- 1:01:33Speaker 2: I had pulled the covers off him, or he was
- 1:01:36Speaker 2: mad because I still had the TV on and I
- 1:01:38Speaker 2: lied about setting a time or whatever. I thought he
- 1:01:41Speaker 2: was trying to get my attention fast to fucking sleep
- 1:01:46Speaker 2: facing the opposite direction. Oh man, So scared as shit
- 1:01:54Speaker 2: because I know I wasn't imagining it, like I was
- 1:01:57Speaker 2: super hot, pulled the blanket down, was still semi conscious,
- 1:02:01Speaker 2: laying there like, oh, I'm so hot. And then I
- 1:02:03Speaker 2: felt the taps on my back after I had pulled
- 1:02:06Speaker 2: the blanket down, So when I sat up and like
- 1:02:11Speaker 2: I looked over and he was sleeping in the opposite direction.
- 1:02:15Speaker 2: I was really scared, so of course I do what
- 1:02:17Speaker 2: you're supposed to do. And I woke him up too,
- 1:02:20Speaker 2: because like, fuck, you can't be sleeping while this is
- 1:02:22Speaker 2: happening to me. And I was like, hey, did you
- 1:02:25Speaker 2: just tap me? He was snoring and drooling fucking fast
- 1:02:37Speaker 2: asleep and I had to shake him and wake him up.
- 1:02:41Speaker 2: And I was like hey, and he's like what And
- 1:02:44Speaker 2: I was like, did you just tap me? It's hilarious now,
- 1:02:50Speaker 2: but I was hoping to God for some reason he's
- 1:02:53Speaker 2: gonna say yes. And he was like, uh no, I'm asleep,
- 1:02:59Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, fuck me. I was so terrified.
- 1:03:03Speaker 2: I had one of those cold sweats where you just
- 1:03:06Speaker 2: don't sleep the rest of the night, and even though
- 1:03:09Speaker 2: you're super super super hot and you want to just
- 1:03:12Speaker 2: like you're like an inferno inside, you still sleep with
- 1:03:15Speaker 2: the blanket like you wrap yourself up like in a cocoon.
- 1:03:19Speaker 2: That's what I did for the rest of the night,
- 1:03:21Speaker 2: and I couldn't fucking sleep. I was just on edge
- 1:03:26Speaker 2: because I already had that flash, and then went to
- 1:03:29Speaker 2: go look for that old lady now I'm getting taps
- 1:03:32Speaker 2: on my back. And when I had recorded the episode
- 1:03:36Speaker 2: with my family, I was like, yeah, no, I don't
- 1:03:38Speaker 2: feel like anything followed me. I'm good. You know, we
- 1:03:41Speaker 2: said our prayers whatever. I should not have even brought
- 1:03:46Speaker 2: it up, because as soon as I recorded that episode
- 1:03:51Speaker 2: and the words left my mouth, activity starts happening at
- 1:03:54Speaker 2: my house.
- 1:03:56Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:03:56Speaker 2: So the problem is where did it come from? Did
- 1:04:01Speaker 2: it come from the cemetery because I was walking around barefoot?
- 1:04:04Speaker 2: Did it come from the fucking Madison Seminary because we
- 1:04:08Speaker 2: spent like six hours walking around in there, because like
- 1:04:12Speaker 2: or is it both? The The crazy thing is why
- 1:04:17Speaker 2: did I even think it was a good idea to
- 1:04:19Speaker 2: do both of those things in one day?
- 1:04:21Speaker 3: But I want to go to I want to go
- 1:04:24Speaker 3: to I know it's super scary, but I want to
- 1:04:27Speaker 3: go there.
- 1:04:27Speaker 2: Man, the guy with the two chicks with the dowsing rods,
- 1:04:35Speaker 2: their husband, her husband was like, if you are not
- 1:04:39Speaker 2: a believer, this place will make you a believer. And
- 1:04:44Speaker 2: I was like, you know, we'll see, and then Evan
- 1:04:48Speaker 2: farted and then like the whole thing, and he still
- 1:04:52Speaker 2: like he'll text me and be like send me that
- 1:04:54Speaker 2: video again. I want to show my friend because it's unbelievable.
- 1:04:58Speaker 2: Like the knocking, it was so loud and it was
- 1:05:02Speaker 2: dead quiet when it happened too. It was just scary.
- 1:05:06Speaker 3: It's scary shit, and it's the Free Knox, the free Taps.
- 1:05:12Speaker 3: I finished. I still can't believe that you saw the
- 1:05:15Speaker 3: face and then when you've googled it, it was that face.
- 1:05:19Speaker 2: That I wish. I wish to god it wouldn't have
- 1:05:23Speaker 2: been because when something turns out to be real like that,
- 1:05:28Speaker 2: like for a second, you hope you're dreaming, or you
- 1:05:30Speaker 2: hope you're hallucinating, or you hope like, oh, I was
- 1:05:33Speaker 2: just having a bad dream because I went to that
- 1:05:35Speaker 2: cemetery and I freaked myself out. Yeah, but then you
- 1:05:38Speaker 2: start googling stuff and you're like, oh shit, like that
- 1:05:42Speaker 2: might have been an attachment. So for the next like
- 1:05:45Speaker 2: four or five days, because I hit you up kind
- 1:05:48Speaker 2: of right in the peak of things, I just started
- 1:05:52Speaker 2: praying and praying and praying and praying and praying, and
- 1:05:57Speaker 2: everything stopped. And then, uh, two days ago, which I'm
- 1:06:02Speaker 2: kind of glad you wanted to reschedule because I wouldn't
- 1:06:06Speaker 2: be able to tell you this story. Oh wow, Yeah,
- 1:06:11Speaker 2: I thought it. You know, it's like the calm before
- 1:06:13Speaker 2: the storm, Like a lot of weird, creepy stuff happens,
- 1:06:16Speaker 2: and it's real quiet for a while, and then like
- 1:06:18Speaker 2: something else, just like my brother saying his smoke detectors
- 1:06:24Speaker 2: went off. I'm at work and my husband texts me
- 1:06:28Speaker 2: and he's like, are you at home? And I'm like, no,
- 1:06:31Speaker 2: I'm at work, and he's like, well, the alarm just
- 1:06:34Speaker 2: went off in our house and it says that the
- 1:06:37Speaker 2: garage door is open, Like the door in our kitchen
- 1:06:41Speaker 2: to go out into the garage is open. Yeah, and
- 1:06:45Speaker 2: so our alarm is going off in the house. I
- 1:06:48Speaker 2: guess the police ended up showing up, but there was
- 1:06:52Speaker 2: no disturbances or anything, so they left. I told my
- 1:06:55Speaker 2: boss I was like, Hey, if that garage door is open,
- 1:06:58Speaker 2: I need to go home and close it because our
- 1:07:01Speaker 2: air conditioning is running super hot and I don't like,
- 1:07:05Speaker 2: obviously I need to go check it make sure. I
- 1:07:08Speaker 2: was thinking, like, oh, I'm a dumb ass, and I
- 1:07:10Speaker 2: forgot to like push it in all the way before
- 1:07:12Speaker 2: I left for work. That must be what that is.
- 1:07:15Speaker 2: Get home, fucking Fort Knox in here. The fucking garage
- 1:07:19Speaker 2: door has never been opened. It was fucking closed and
- 1:07:22Speaker 2: locked like I knew it would be. And then it
- 1:07:25Speaker 2: happened again the next day, said, the fucking garage door
- 1:07:30Speaker 2: was open. Get here, nothing nothing, The garage door is
- 1:07:34Speaker 2: fucking closed, tight as shit. Alarm's going off.
- 1:07:41Speaker 3: Oh wow. So it's like it's playing with you.
- 1:07:44Speaker 2: In your house now, just like with the alarms at
- 1:07:48Speaker 2: my brother's house. Yeah.
- 1:07:51Speaker 3: Have you got any cameras up in your house anywhere?
- 1:07:54Speaker 3: Have you seen anything on the cameras?
- 1:07:57Speaker 2: So I don't log into it because I don't know
- 1:08:01Speaker 2: the password to it, and I just if something's weird,
- 1:08:03Speaker 2: I'll just have my husband. I'll be like, hey, will
- 1:08:05Speaker 2: you look at the cameras and see you. So the
- 1:08:08Speaker 2: day that the alarm went off, he was like, well,
- 1:08:10Speaker 2: I'm looking in I'm looking at the house right now,
- 1:08:13Speaker 2: and like there's nobody outside, there's nobody in the living room,
- 1:08:16Speaker 2: nobody's broken. And I'm like, okay, well I must have
- 1:08:21Speaker 2: just left the door a jar or something. It's closed
- 1:08:26Speaker 2: tighter than shit when I get here, Like it's in
- 1:08:30Speaker 2: two times in a row that happened. It's just like
- 1:08:34Speaker 2: too much to be a coincidence.
- 1:08:36Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't believe in coincidences anymore.
- 1:08:41Speaker 2: Now wild nothing has happened since then, But it's just
- 1:08:46Speaker 2: like those little things add.
- 1:08:48Speaker 3: Up for sure. Yeah, that's a lot. That's a lot
- 1:08:54Speaker 3: of a lot of activity there for the whole thing. Man. Wow.
- 1:09:00Speaker 2: And then right as we're jumping on to do this episode,
- 1:09:03Speaker 2: like my microphone's not acting right, I'm getting a bunch
- 1:09:07Speaker 2: of like weird interference on my microphone and shit. And
- 1:09:10Speaker 2: honest to god, there was one other thing that happened
- 1:09:13Speaker 2: while I was on my trip that I kind of
- 1:09:16Speaker 2: think about a little bit. So the Haunted house that
- 1:09:21Speaker 2: I grew up in the very first episode we did
- 1:09:23Speaker 2: together my grandma's house. When our family sold that house,
- 1:09:31Speaker 2: my aunt took a lot of the possessions from that
- 1:09:36Speaker 2: house and kept them in her basement. She passed away
- 1:09:41Speaker 2: very tragically, and so my cousins took all of this
- 1:09:47Speaker 2: stuff from the Haunted House and put it in their basement.
- 1:09:51Speaker 2: While I was there, they were like, let me give
- 1:09:55Speaker 2: you some stuff to take home with you from mama's house.
- 1:10:01Speaker 2: And so I put a bunch of stuff from mama's
- 1:10:06Speaker 2: house in my suitcase and brought it home and set
- 1:10:10Speaker 2: it up around my house. One of them is a
- 1:10:14Speaker 2: picture of my mom from high school that's sitting right
- 1:10:17Speaker 2: behind me, So could it be something from her?
- 1:10:24Speaker 3: Like?
- 1:10:27Speaker 2: I don't know if something like that can attach to items,
- 1:10:31Speaker 2: but growing up there and I told you this story
- 1:10:35Speaker 2: of living there and it was like full of demons
- 1:10:37Speaker 2: in that house. Could even taking something to my house
- 1:10:42Speaker 2: that used to be there, Like, could something be attached
- 1:10:46Speaker 2: to that? Even I don't know, but I haven't put
- 1:10:50Speaker 2: anything in my house that used to be in that
- 1:10:52Speaker 2: house until just recently and then all of a sudden
- 1:10:57Speaker 2: it but it does coincide with those other two things
- 1:11:00Speaker 2: that I did, though.
- 1:11:01Speaker 5: So.
- 1:11:03Speaker 3: It could be. I mean a lot of people own
- 1:11:06Speaker 3: haunted objects. I mean, on your show, we was talking
- 1:11:09Speaker 3: about Oh, what's his name, Zach Beggins. He's his hotel,
- 1:11:13Speaker 3: he's a museum sorry, where he's got all the haunted objects.
- 1:11:16Speaker 3: I mean, there's definitely there's definitely something to that. I've
- 1:11:20Speaker 3: talked to a lot of people that have bought stuff
- 1:11:22Speaker 3: from frift shore at frift shops and stuff like that,
- 1:11:25Speaker 3: and they've seem to have brought something to their house.
- 1:11:28Speaker 3: Oh man. But for me, the big, the big thing
- 1:11:32Speaker 3: at least for me, is you see in that face
- 1:11:35Speaker 3: that you haven't seen, and then when you've looked into it,
- 1:11:39Speaker 3: it's it's it's the person that you're you've seen, and
- 1:11:42Speaker 3: for me, that's that's wild. There's no coincidence there, and like.
- 1:11:49Speaker 2: It's something you know when you see it in your
- 1:11:51Speaker 2: mind's high or whatever, but then you never fucking forget it,
- 1:11:55Speaker 2: like it's burnt in there. Yeah, you can picture it
- 1:11:58Speaker 2: right now. Before I ever even saw the actual picture
- 1:12:02Speaker 2: of the lady. Yeah, I could tell you every wrinkle
- 1:12:05Speaker 2: in her face. It like it zapped my mind a
- 1:12:10Speaker 2: little bit, like because it it was so scary.
- 1:12:14Speaker 3: You know the difference between a normal memory that you're
- 1:12:16Speaker 3: just thinking of and something like that that's not image
- 1:12:19Speaker 3: just been put into your mind. I've experienced that. I've seen.
- 1:12:24Speaker 3: I've been sitting on my couch, shut my eyes and
- 1:12:27Speaker 3: a face has just appeared like a picture, but it's
- 1:12:31Speaker 3: just there, yes, and it's not in my mind, it's
- 1:12:34Speaker 3: it's I'm seeing it, and I'm like, oh the heck
- 1:12:36Speaker 3: is that now? I didn't know who that was. I
- 1:12:38Speaker 3: never found out who that person was why I've seen
- 1:12:41Speaker 3: something there. But I have experienced that where a face
- 1:12:44Speaker 3: has just appeared out of nowhere, just and you're not
- 1:12:48Speaker 3: thinking about anything, Like you can be watching something and
- 1:12:51Speaker 3: not thinking about anything to bring that up.
- 1:12:54Speaker 2: So that's wild, right, And that's why I mentioned like
- 1:12:58Speaker 2: I was watching a movie like I was fine, I
- 1:13:00Speaker 2: was chilling. I was watching White Chicks like it's a
- 1:13:04Speaker 2: hilarious movie. I was laughing, you know, I was like,
- 1:13:08Speaker 2: oh my god, I love this movie whatever, and I'm
- 1:13:10Speaker 2: just kind of sleepy. And then why, like, out of
- 1:13:14Speaker 2: any moment where I'm totally fine and just chilling, would
- 1:13:17Speaker 2: that happen and just pop up in your face like
- 1:13:20Speaker 2: ooh fuck, what was that? And then it could just
- 1:13:24Speaker 2: be even with it happening to you, it's like, is
- 1:13:26Speaker 2: that just some little random attachment you picked up because
- 1:13:29Speaker 2: you walked by a cemetery or something like what like,
- 1:13:33Speaker 2: how does that happen on the plane?
- 1:13:37Speaker 3: Yeah? A message or something like that, like just them
- 1:13:42Speaker 3: trying to communicate with you. I don't know, but it
- 1:13:45Speaker 3: is weird and I have experienced that.
- 1:13:48Speaker 2: And you'll never forget it. If it's happened, you never forget.
- 1:13:52Speaker 3: It's scary. It's scary because it's like it's not a
- 1:13:54Speaker 3: part of your memorial, of your memory or your thinking
- 1:13:59Speaker 3: like it's just been put there. It's yes, it's wild.
- 1:14:04Speaker 2: You described it perfectly, like there's no other way to
- 1:14:09Speaker 2: describe it. It's not it's it's not coming from you.
- 1:14:12Speaker 2: You just see it and it flashes and you're like that,
- 1:14:15Speaker 2: like what was that?
- 1:14:17Speaker 3: Yeah, so I don't.
- 1:14:19Speaker 2: Know, and it's like I said, maybe the first red
- 1:14:21Speaker 2: flag of me walking around in their barefoot like that
- 1:14:24Speaker 2: I probably shouldn't have done that, and then follow it
- 1:14:27Speaker 2: up by going to another super haunted place where they're
- 1:14:30Speaker 2: seeing grimlin creatures and knocking on the walls and yeah,
- 1:14:36Speaker 2: I just I had a really fun day that day.
- 1:14:39Speaker 2: And I think it's cool that my Patreon subscribers can
- 1:14:44Speaker 2: go and watch the whole investigation and stuff and see
- 1:14:47Speaker 2: everything that I'm talking about, and so it was a
- 1:14:49Speaker 2: great experience, but nobody ever thinks about like what happens
- 1:14:55Speaker 2: to the investigators after they leave. Kind of why I
- 1:14:59Speaker 2: was so in for sitting Zach Began's from Ghost Adventures
- 1:15:03Speaker 2: because he's been doing it for like thirty years and
- 1:15:06Speaker 2: going to some of the most haunted places in the
- 1:15:09Speaker 2: world and collecting all this stuff, and you're like, at
- 1:15:12Speaker 2: what point does it not mess with your psyche a
- 1:15:15Speaker 2: little bit and you start being consumed by it a
- 1:15:18Speaker 2: little bit, and I think that's happened to him.
- 1:15:22Speaker 3: Yeah, I even think looking into this sort of stuff
- 1:15:25Speaker 3: can invite it. And you know, that's something that worries
- 1:15:29Speaker 3: me about doing the show because I'm looking into paranormal
- 1:15:31Speaker 3: stuff every day and I'm like, is this good for me?
- 1:15:34Speaker 3: It's too late now. I love it, but I know
- 1:15:37Speaker 3: I know.
- 1:15:37Speaker 2: It's too late for me too. It's way too late
- 1:15:40Speaker 2: for me. But there's that saying, you know, when you
- 1:15:43Speaker 2: look into the darkness, the darkness is looking into you
- 1:15:46Speaker 2: or a friend. It's so true.
- 1:15:48Speaker 3: You can't be careful what you wish for. Stuff like that.
- 1:15:51Speaker 2: Yeah, just like everybody who says like I want to
- 1:15:54Speaker 2: see dog man, I want to see bigfoot, and then
- 1:15:56Speaker 2: they see it and they got to be like committed
- 1:15:58Speaker 2: to a freaking hospital or something break down.
- 1:16:04Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:16:05Speaker 3: I always say that's the dreams to see a big foot.
- 1:16:07Speaker 3: But you know, if you have a bad experience, like
- 1:16:09Speaker 3: some of the experiences I hear, a lot terrified.
- 1:16:12Speaker 2: So yeah, like the the girl you interviewed that had
- 1:16:18Speaker 2: their mosure that went to Madison Seminary, she said she
- 1:16:22Speaker 2: heard a bigfoot and the small town monsters or whatever.
- 1:16:29Speaker 2: What was that ye Minerva monster or something. There was
- 1:16:34Speaker 2: a whole documentary made about Bigfoot in that area. And
- 1:16:38Speaker 2: so this is the same area where I grew up
- 1:16:40Speaker 2: in with all this haunted shit, and like people see
- 1:16:44Speaker 2: stuff in Lake Erie. I grew up in a haunted
- 1:16:46Speaker 2: house there. Like it's there's something very condensed about that
- 1:16:52Speaker 2: area that in Ohio, of all places, it's just so random. Yeah.
- 1:16:58Speaker 2: And the last thing, and this is my this sums
- 1:17:03Speaker 2: everything up. My On the day before or on the
- 1:17:09Speaker 2: day that I left to come back to Oklahoma, I
- 1:17:14Speaker 2: wanted to go see the lake before I got on
- 1:17:17Speaker 2: the plane. So my cousin took me to the lake
- 1:17:20Speaker 2: and we were just gonna get like a funnel cake
- 1:17:23Speaker 2: or whatever and go sit and look at the waves
- 1:17:26Speaker 2: or driving and on this stretch of road, you're a
- 1:17:31Speaker 2: few feet from the lake, but you're like way up
- 1:17:34Speaker 2: on a cliff, so if your car went over, you're
- 1:17:36Speaker 2: fucking dead, because like you're gonna be in the lake.
- 1:17:41Speaker 2: And I'm just like gazing out the window as we're
- 1:17:45Speaker 2: passing the lake and it's beautiful and it's sunny and
- 1:17:48Speaker 2: the water is super clear, and I look over and
- 1:17:52Speaker 2: I didn't say anything, but I saw something in the
- 1:17:57Speaker 2: water that looked like it was solid and like the
- 1:18:03Speaker 2: waves were getting were like coming up to it and
- 1:18:06Speaker 2: not being able to go through it. But it was
- 1:18:11Speaker 2: I don't even know how to describe, Like, let's just
- 1:18:14Speaker 2: say and so we're all on the same page and
- 1:18:17Speaker 2: you can call me crazy. Later there was a cloaked
- 1:18:22Speaker 2: something in the lake that was transparent that waves were
- 1:18:27Speaker 2: going up like avoiding. They were going around and above
- 1:18:35Speaker 2: like all the other waves were very flowing and you know,
- 1:18:40Speaker 2: in a rhythm, and they it looked real normal. And
- 1:18:43Speaker 2: then there was just one spot in the middle of
- 1:18:45Speaker 2: the lake where water was going around and water was
- 1:18:49Speaker 2: kind of like getting stopped at and then like having
- 1:18:52Speaker 2: to go up over. But when you looked into the lake,
- 1:18:57Speaker 2: you couldn't see anything. It would it was almost as
- 1:19:01Speaker 2: if you put an invisible solid rectangle in the middle
- 1:19:07Speaker 2: of the lake and then the water was having to
- 1:19:09Speaker 2: like find its way around it.
- 1:19:12Speaker 3: Well, how big would you say? It was.
- 1:19:16Speaker 2: Like half a football field, maybe so big right in
- 1:19:23Speaker 2: the middle of the lake. I didn't say anything nothing.
- 1:19:28Speaker 2: I was fixated on it, and then all of a sudden,
- 1:19:31Speaker 2: my cousin Brittany it from the back seat, chirps up
- 1:19:33Speaker 2: and says, there's something in the lake. And I was like, wait,
- 1:19:39Speaker 2: you see that. I was like, so you like, you're
- 1:19:43Speaker 2: looking at what I'm looking at. She goes, yes, there's
- 1:19:46Speaker 2: something in the lake. I roll my window down, look out,
- 1:19:54Speaker 2: get my phone, zoom in on it, and you can
- 1:19:59Speaker 2: see the water is like flowing differently in that area,
- 1:20:04Speaker 2: as if there's just something huge blocking the water right there,
- 1:20:09Speaker 2: But there wasn't anything for it to be acting like that,
- 1:20:14Speaker 2: and there was almost like a shadow on the water,
- 1:20:18Speaker 2: if that makes sense. So the water the rest of
- 1:20:22Speaker 2: the lake was flowing and doing its regular thing, and
- 1:20:26Speaker 2: then there was just a big square stretch of the
- 1:20:30Speaker 2: lake right in the middle where it just looked a
- 1:20:33Speaker 2: little darker, like a shadow, and water was going around
- 1:20:39Speaker 2: and above it as if it was trying to like
- 1:20:44Speaker 2: there's There's just not a good way to describe it
- 1:20:48Speaker 2: unless you were just looking at it, but it was
- 1:20:50Speaker 2: super weird.
- 1:20:51Speaker 3: Would it be like a craft sort of under the
- 1:20:55Speaker 3: water but not completely under the water, but a lot
- 1:20:57Speaker 3: of ufo it.
- 1:20:59Speaker 2: That's what it looked like to me, like something And
- 1:21:02Speaker 2: I almost was hoping that a log would pop up,
- 1:21:07Speaker 2: because like a big ass like log or something, but nothing.
- 1:21:11Speaker 2: It just stayed like that until we passed it. That
- 1:21:16Speaker 2: we kept driving farther and farther and farther and farther
- 1:21:19Speaker 2: down the road, and I would have to like turn
- 1:21:21Speaker 2: around to try to find it, you know, and look
- 1:21:24Speaker 2: for it. But as long as I could see it,
- 1:21:26Speaker 2: it was I mean, it never went away. It just
- 1:21:29Speaker 2: stayed like the water was acting weird in that one area.
- 1:21:34Speaker 2: And it made me think back to all those stories
- 1:21:37Speaker 2: that people tell about creatures in Lake Erie, craft being
- 1:21:41Speaker 2: seen around Lake Erie. My brother actually saw ufo above
- 1:21:46Speaker 2: Lake Erie and it shot up out of the water
- 1:21:49Speaker 2: and followed them down the beach.
- 1:21:51Speaker 3: Oh wow, and.
- 1:21:53Speaker 2: Literally, And so I had never seen anything like that.
- 1:21:57Speaker 2: But of course, this one trip, this one moment in time,
- 1:22:01Speaker 2: I saw something in the lake. And I had always
- 1:22:04Speaker 2: been I want to see something, I want to see something,
- 1:22:08Speaker 2: and just that split second we were driving down the road,
- 1:22:13Speaker 2: I finally saw something unexplainable in the lake and I
- 1:22:16Speaker 2: was like, Yep, all those other stories make sense. I've
- 1:22:19Speaker 2: seen it now, but it makes it real to you
- 1:22:22Speaker 2: because you get to experience it.
- 1:22:24Speaker 3: And that was big as well, if it's half a fot.
- 1:22:26Speaker 2: It was huge. It was huge, and just water was
- 1:22:30Speaker 2: going up over it and around it, like a big square.
- 1:22:37Speaker 2: If you can imagine putting like a pool noodle in
- 1:22:44Speaker 2: the ocean and like watching the water go up over
- 1:22:48Speaker 2: it and around it because it's obstructing the flow of
- 1:22:53Speaker 2: the water. That's what it That's what it looked like.
- 1:22:56Speaker 2: But like a huge, like half a football field size
- 1:23:00Speaker 2: pool noodle.
- 1:23:01Speaker 3: That is wild. Did you say that was at night?
- 1:23:04Speaker 3: Was that during the day.
- 1:23:04Speaker 2: It was the middle of the freaking day.
- 1:23:07Speaker 3: It was still light and oh wow, yeah, it.
- 1:23:09Speaker 2: Was probably like two o'clock in the afternoon, the sun
- 1:23:13Speaker 2: bright as fuck.
- 1:23:15Speaker 3: Wow.
- 1:23:16Speaker 2: I was going to actually keep it to myself because
- 1:23:20Speaker 2: I didn't know if I was just seeing something. I
- 1:23:22Speaker 2: saw it, but I wasn't gonna say anything. And then
- 1:23:26Speaker 2: from the back seat, my cousin Brittany was like, there
- 1:23:28Speaker 2: is something in the.
- 1:23:29Speaker 3: Lake that's so cool.
- 1:23:32Speaker 2: Shit. I was like, okay, so it's not just me,
- 1:23:36Speaker 2: you see it too, Wow?
- 1:23:40Speaker 3: Sorry, no, go ahead, No, I was going to go
- 1:23:43Speaker 3: to your brother when he saw something come out of
- 1:23:44Speaker 3: the lake. Was it a similar sort of craft or
- 1:23:47Speaker 3: was it something different?
- 1:23:50Speaker 2: He said the one that he saw was circular, okay,
- 1:23:54Speaker 2: and it was it came up out of the lake
- 1:23:57Speaker 2: and it just hovered there like really really really far away,
- 1:24:01Speaker 2: and he and his friends were sitting It was at night,
- 1:24:04Speaker 2: and he and his friends were sitting on the beach
- 1:24:06Speaker 2: just chilling, like drinking, doing stuff that they weren't supposed
- 1:24:10Speaker 2: to do, but they were in high school whatever. And
- 1:24:14Speaker 2: he said that he saw the lights on it. It
- 1:24:17Speaker 2: was reflecting the water and the sky, so it was
- 1:24:21Speaker 2: almost kind of camouflaged a little bit, but it had
- 1:24:24Speaker 2: some lights on it and that's the only way you
- 1:24:26Speaker 2: could tell that it wasn't, you know, the sky. And
- 1:24:31Speaker 2: he said it kept getting closer and closer and closer
- 1:24:34Speaker 2: to the beach where they were at, and it was
- 1:24:40Speaker 2: moving really really slowly, and then before they knew it,
- 1:24:45Speaker 2: it was hovering right over top of them. And he
- 1:24:49Speaker 2: said he could have thrown a baseball and hit it,
- 1:24:52Speaker 2: that's how close it was, hovering right over top of them.
- 1:24:56Speaker 3: Wow.
- 1:24:56Speaker 2: And he said that what he will never forget is
- 1:25:02Speaker 2: that he could hear the sound of his own heart
- 1:25:05Speaker 2: beating because he was so scared, and he could hear
- 1:25:08Speaker 2: the sound of the waves crashing onto the beach, but
- 1:25:14Speaker 2: he could not hear anything coming from the craft. Wow
- 1:25:18Speaker 2: in dead silent. So he and his friends, because there
- 1:25:23Speaker 2: was like a group of six of them, they all
- 1:25:25Speaker 2: get up and they start running down the beach. And
- 1:25:30Speaker 2: they kept running and running and running down the beach,
- 1:25:33Speaker 2: and he said, I could literally hear our footsteps in
- 1:25:37Speaker 2: the sand and the waves breaking onto the beach and
- 1:25:42Speaker 2: look up and it be following us right over our
- 1:25:45Speaker 2: heads and not hear anything. Wow. And he said they
- 1:25:49Speaker 2: got to the end of the beach and it broke
- 1:25:51Speaker 2: off into this yard where all these like weeds and
- 1:25:55Speaker 2: shit were grown, poison ivy everything. They didn't give a fuck.
- 1:25:58Speaker 2: They ran right through there in this field and it
- 1:26:01Speaker 2: was going right over top of him. And then they
- 1:26:04Speaker 2: were like, fuck it. If it's gonna kill us, it's
- 1:26:06Speaker 2: gonna kill us. Let's just stop. We're all out of breath.
- 1:26:09Speaker 2: We can't breathe. And they just kind of stopped and
- 1:26:11Speaker 2: we're looking at each other, and just like that, it
- 1:26:14Speaker 2: shot straight up into the sky and was gone.
- 1:26:17Speaker 3: Wow.
- 1:26:19Speaker 2: Didn't It didn't make a noise, and it didn't like
- 1:26:24Speaker 2: you would think it shooting up that fast into the
- 1:26:27Speaker 2: sky there would be like a big gust of wind. Nothing.
- 1:26:30Speaker 2: It was as if it just disappeared.
- 1:26:34Speaker 3: That's wild.
- 1:26:35Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Wow. And he tells that story all the time,
- 1:26:42Speaker 2: and he tells it the same way every time, every detail,
- 1:26:47Speaker 2: who he was with, what he was doing, what he
- 1:26:50Speaker 2: was wearing, like he remembers everything, and that's how I
- 1:26:54Speaker 2: know he's telling the truth. And then for me to
- 1:26:57Speaker 2: see something in the lake that day too, after I've
- 1:27:00Speaker 2: already been to all this paranormal this, and that it
- 1:27:03Speaker 2: just happened to be when those trips where that you'll
- 1:27:06Speaker 2: just never forget.
- 1:27:07Speaker 3: Yeah, an amazing trip, terrifying, but amazing, a lot.
- 1:27:13Speaker 2: Of bucket list things checked off. Yeah, wow, Yeah, No,
- 1:27:20Speaker 2: it was really cool. I wish I would have taken
- 1:27:23Speaker 2: a picture. I probably wouldn't have looked like anything on
- 1:27:26Speaker 2: my phone when I scored, because even when I scrolled
- 1:27:29Speaker 2: in on my phone to like see if there was
- 1:27:31Speaker 2: something in the water, it just looked like the lake.
- 1:27:34Speaker 2: Like you would have to see it like in real
- 1:27:38Speaker 2: time to understand, you know what I was talking about,
- 1:27:43Speaker 2: Because if you weren't just staring at it and you
- 1:27:45Speaker 2: were just driving by mindlessly, you wouldn't even notice anything
- 1:27:49Speaker 2: different because it just looked like a lake hearing at it.
- 1:27:56Speaker 3: Yeah, because these things obviously we don't know what they are,
- 1:28:00Speaker 3: but do they not want to be seen?
- 1:28:02Speaker 5: You know?
- 1:28:03Speaker 3: They you know, they want to blend in to the lake.
- 1:28:06Speaker 3: And oh, that's a cool thing to say.
- 1:28:09Speaker 2: That lake eerie of all places. It's just so random,
- 1:28:13Speaker 2: like it's not an ocean, it's not lock ness, it's
- 1:28:17Speaker 2: not you know, it's just a lake.
- 1:28:20Speaker 3: It's got a lot of spooky stuff happens here.
- 1:28:23Speaker 2: Yes, I was going to say that. I was going
- 1:28:25Speaker 2: to say, I do know a lot of people though,
- 1:28:27Speaker 2: have seen stuff in that lake, and now I'm one
- 1:28:30Speaker 2: of them.
- 1:28:31Speaker 3: Yeah, so what do you think it is? I know,
- 1:28:34Speaker 3: we don't really know, but do you think it's like
- 1:28:36Speaker 3: there's a portal there or what do you think is
- 1:28:38Speaker 3: going on?
- 1:28:40Speaker 2: I thought that maybe it's easier if it is some
- 1:28:45Speaker 2: type of like craft from I don't even go right
- 1:28:51Speaker 2: to aliens, I can. I would honestly say, like they're
- 1:28:53Speaker 2: testing shit out, like secret underground military type style craft
- 1:29:00Speaker 2: that they're working on that can be cloaked underwater or
- 1:29:04Speaker 2: some shit like that. They just might be out fucking
- 1:29:07Speaker 2: testing that shit. And then some random Joe who's driving
- 1:29:10Speaker 2: past the lake happens to see it like I did,
- 1:29:13Speaker 2: or you know, like they're sitting on the beach and
- 1:29:16Speaker 2: it pops up out of the water and they're just
- 1:29:18Speaker 2: fucking with us and they're like, oh, fucking float over
- 1:29:21Speaker 2: there by those kids, they'll probably shit their pants, Like
- 1:29:24Speaker 2: she'd never know. I don't drunk straight to aliens, but
- 1:29:28Speaker 2: I do know that it's something that's completely unidentifiable. Like
- 1:29:33Speaker 2: if they have this type of technology, they're not letting
- 1:29:37Speaker 2: anybody know they have it. But it doesn't mean that
- 1:29:39Speaker 2: it doesn't exist, you know what I mean?
- 1:29:42Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, I think that's just as wild. If
- 1:29:44Speaker 3: the government have got all this technology that they're hiding
- 1:29:47Speaker 3: from ust that they can, I think that's just as
- 1:29:49Speaker 3: crazy as aliens. But to me, that's just as wild.
- 1:29:54Speaker 2: It has to be because where did they get it from?
- 1:29:57Speaker 2: And so you have to think if you were in
- 1:29:59Speaker 2: the ninth teen, fifties, even nineteen fifties, sixties, seventies, and
- 1:30:06Speaker 2: you saw like a stealth one of those stealth motherfuckers
- 1:30:10Speaker 2: flying about you, for sure you'd think you saw an alien.
- 1:30:15Speaker 3: Yeah, and they were secret of first, weren't they work?
- 1:30:18Speaker 3: They didn't just come out with him.
- 1:30:19Speaker 2: They didn't, so like, are we just seeing stuff that
- 1:30:23Speaker 2: maybe our kids or our grandkids will look back and
- 1:30:26Speaker 2: be like, oh my god, they thought they were seeing
- 1:30:27Speaker 2: like fucking UFOs and shit. It was just just everywhere,
- 1:30:33Speaker 2: the circular stealth third, that's all that.
- 1:30:37Speaker 3: I like, whatever, moving through dimensions. Oh yeah, no, we
- 1:30:42Speaker 3: see that every day.
- 1:30:43Speaker 2: Now. Have you watched the movie Dune? No?
- 1:30:51Speaker 3: I haven't yet.
- 1:30:52Speaker 2: It good, have to watch it. It's amazing. It's probably done.
- 1:30:56Speaker 2: The first Dune in the second Dune are quickly becoming
- 1:30:59Speaker 2: one one of my favorite movies of all time. And
- 1:31:02Speaker 2: it's only because I'm really into conspiracy theories and I
- 1:31:05Speaker 2: think that's where we're headed as a world. Like I
- 1:31:10Speaker 2: think because it happens so far into the future and
- 1:31:15Speaker 2: they're they're telling a story of like what where we're headed,
- 1:31:20Speaker 2: and it just the type of craft that they have
- 1:31:25Speaker 2: in those movies, and like this stuff that they're talking about,
- 1:31:29Speaker 2: I'm like, they have all this already. I feel like
- 1:31:31Speaker 2: they put this stuff in movies to kind of prepare
- 1:31:34Speaker 2: our minds for what for what reality really will be,
- 1:31:39Speaker 2: Like the type of technology that they have, the type
- 1:31:42Speaker 2: of government system that they have, the religions that they have.
- 1:31:49Speaker 2: It just seems like they're preparing the subconscious mind to
- 1:31:53Speaker 2: experience it in the real world. You have to watch
- 1:31:57Speaker 2: those movies though. They are so it's like seeing into
- 1:32:01Speaker 2: the future for real.
- 1:32:03Speaker 3: Interesting. It's like they say in the conspiracy world that
- 1:32:07Speaker 3: they have to let you know, they have to tell
- 1:32:09Speaker 3: you the truth, and and Hollywood gets as you know,
- 1:32:14Speaker 3: Hollywood tells us a lot of truths and you know,
- 1:32:18Speaker 3: hidden agendas and well.
- 1:32:20Speaker 2: What's interesting about the Dune movies is that their remakes
- 1:32:24Speaker 2: from movies that came out in the eighties. Okay, in
- 1:32:29Speaker 2: some of like the technology and stuff that they had
- 1:32:33Speaker 2: in the eighties movies, we kind of we kind of
- 1:32:37Speaker 2: see some of that. So now that they're trying to
- 1:32:41Speaker 2: remake the Dune movies, they're putting what like the next
- 1:32:46Speaker 2: ten twenty years into the future. They're putting that shit in. Yeah,
- 1:32:50Speaker 2: so it's just really cool. It's just it's like a
- 1:32:55Speaker 2: foreshadowing of where we're headed.
- 1:32:58Speaker 3: Yeah, scary but cool.
- 1:33:01Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, you know, because like in the eighties, they're
- 1:33:04Speaker 2: they're like, let's make a machine that like makes individual
- 1:33:09Speaker 2: cups of coffee, and you're like, okay, that's the big
- 1:33:15Speaker 2: technology thing for that you know, yeah, or you know whatever,
- 1:33:20Speaker 2: some stupid little goofy thing like let's make a weapon
- 1:33:24Speaker 2: that like it's like a light saber but not. And
- 1:33:30Speaker 2: you're like, okay, so eighties movies are so cheesy and goofy,
- 1:33:36Speaker 2: and then you look at some of the stuff we
- 1:33:38Speaker 2: have today and you're like, oh my god, if they
- 1:33:40Speaker 2: really knew what kind of technology we had in twenty
- 1:33:43Speaker 2: twenty five or whatever, twenty twenty four, twenty twenty five,
- 1:33:48Speaker 2: they would be like, holy shit. Yeah, so they have
- 1:33:51Speaker 2: to tell us what the next chapter is as they're
- 1:33:54Speaker 2: remaking the movie. They have to up the antsy, give
- 1:33:57Speaker 2: us stuff that we couldn't even believe whatever exists, yeah.
- 1:34:01Speaker 3: To get into our conscious and when we do see it,
- 1:34:04Speaker 3: it's not that crazy.
- 1:34:05Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, because it's.
- 1:34:08Speaker 3: Like if people one hundred years ago could see what
- 1:34:10Speaker 3: me and you were doing now, they'd be like what what?
- 1:34:14Speaker 3: How do you know?
- 1:34:15Speaker 1: What?
- 1:34:15Speaker 3: I mean? They would blow their mind, But to us,
- 1:34:18Speaker 3: it's just normal that we could do this. Yeah. Wild.
- 1:34:23Speaker 2: So maybe maybe even seeing stuff in the lake or
- 1:34:27Speaker 2: seeing UFOs or whatever, it is kind of like a
- 1:34:30Speaker 2: time slip and we're getting to see a little like
- 1:34:35Speaker 2: for a split second, we're kind of taking a glimpse
- 1:34:40Speaker 2: into the future. Interesting, Yeah, like a time slip.
- 1:34:46Speaker 3: Yeah. Interesting, I've never heard that that. That's that's interesting.
- 1:34:50Speaker 3: You could be seeing something in the future.
- 1:34:52Speaker 2: Yeah, because if they have, if they have an ability
- 1:34:57Speaker 2: to travel into the past, maybe that's what they're doing
- 1:35:04Speaker 2: and they have to use like portals or whatever to
- 1:35:09Speaker 2: do that. Because I just finished doing some research, and
- 1:35:13Speaker 2: I know this is going on a really long time,
- 1:35:15Speaker 2: but I think it's interesting. I just did some research
- 1:35:18Speaker 2: for an episode that I'm going to put together for
- 1:35:21Speaker 2: my podcasts for July about the seven Cities of Gold
- 1:35:31Speaker 2: that are mentioned throughout time, like se Bela and Petiti
- 1:35:36Speaker 2: and El Dorado, these cities of Gold, and how even
- 1:35:40Speaker 2: to these to this day in the area where these
- 1:35:44Speaker 2: cities supposedly existed, the natives there sea craft coming in
- 1:35:52Speaker 2: and out of the lakes in the waters over there.
- 1:35:57Speaker 2: It's just weird, like to this day, in these areas
- 1:36:01Speaker 2: where the Seven Cities of Gold were located, they see
- 1:36:07Speaker 2: the sky open up, a craft come down, go into
- 1:36:11Speaker 2: the lake, be in there for a hot minute, pop
- 1:36:14Speaker 2: back out of the lake, and then shoot back off
- 1:36:16Speaker 2: into the sky. So it's almost as if if we're
- 1:36:20Speaker 2: talking about like time travel or whatever, they put some
- 1:36:28Speaker 2: of this gold or something. Maybe they're under the lake.
- 1:36:32Speaker 2: Is the city of Gold? Mh like maybe it's buried.
- 1:36:37Speaker 2: I don't know, but they're and they're trying to get
- 1:36:39Speaker 2: to it. Maybe somebody from the fucking future, a fucking
- 1:36:43Speaker 2: thousand years into the future realized the city of Gold
- 1:36:46Speaker 2: was buried under that fucking lake, and they've been going
- 1:36:48Speaker 2: back in time and fucking collecting this shit. I don't know.
- 1:36:53Speaker 3: That's wild.
- 1:36:55Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
- 1:36:56Speaker 3: Man, I'm excited for that episode that's coming out, and hmm.
- 1:37:01Speaker 2: It's crazy. They see all kinds of stuff where they
- 1:37:04Speaker 2: and where did they get the gold? By the way,
- 1:37:07Speaker 2: all these Native American tribes were just silly with gold.
- 1:37:11Speaker 2: What how and why where did they get? Like and
- 1:37:14Speaker 2: then they see aliens all the time. I don't know.
- 1:37:17Speaker 3: Yeah, And aliens have always been in the culture, obviously
- 1:37:20Speaker 3: of Native Americans, and they've always been there. Yeah, when
- 1:37:24Speaker 3: we showed them pictures of a gray but they're like, no,
- 1:37:28Speaker 3: that's that's not an alien. That's and they've got their
- 1:37:30Speaker 3: own word for it, and that you know, they know
- 1:37:32Speaker 3: all about it. Super interesting.
- 1:37:35Speaker 2: Yeah, they they have like ant people, and they tell
- 1:37:40Speaker 2: tell stories about like insectoid type beans and ship and
- 1:37:45Speaker 2: you're like, oh, well, the Inca were silly with gold.
- 1:37:48Speaker 2: They had golden temples and golden this and blah blah blah,
- 1:37:51Speaker 2: and they had contact with these creatures and documented it.
- 1:37:54Speaker 2: And they when they knew the conquistadors were coming, they
- 1:37:58Speaker 2: threw all the gold into this lake. And now we
- 1:38:00Speaker 2: see UFOs around this like all the time, coming in
- 1:38:03Speaker 2: and out of it. You're like, is this in a
- 1:38:06Speaker 2: history book? Like, who's right, who's documenting this? This is
- 1:38:10Speaker 2: crazy as ship.
- 1:38:12Speaker 3: Yeah, it's why I read something today, And I don't
- 1:38:15Speaker 3: know the actual facts, so I'm going to probably butcher this.
- 1:38:18Speaker 3: But there's a tribe in Brazil. I don't know where
- 1:38:21Speaker 3: I saw this. I saw this today, which is quite funny.
- 1:38:23Speaker 3: But there's a tribe in Brazil that they showed an
- 1:38:26Speaker 3: image of a gray too and they were like, I
- 1:38:29Speaker 3: don't know how this conversation come about. I just read
- 1:38:31Speaker 3: this on Facebook, I think, so, I don't know how
- 1:38:34Speaker 3: accurate this is, but this this, this tribe was a
- 1:38:36Speaker 3: Brazilian tribe that was named and they said, no, that's
- 1:38:39Speaker 3: not the that's they had a word for it. They're
- 1:38:42Speaker 3: their own word for it. And they said it lives
- 1:38:45Speaker 3: underground and it was a picture picture of a gray Yeah.
- 1:38:49Speaker 2: Think about that. Yeah, no big deal. They're totally our
- 1:38:56Speaker 2: friends time. What's new? What I mean, there's so many
- 1:39:06Speaker 2: there's so many aspects of life that people just are
- 1:39:10Speaker 2: either not interested in. Like if I told that story
- 1:39:13Speaker 2: about the City of Golden they see UFOs and stuff,
- 1:39:17Speaker 2: a lot of people will be like roll my eyes next,
- 1:39:21Speaker 2: like what what are you talking about? But it interests
- 1:39:25Speaker 2: me to know end, like were there really cities of
- 1:39:29Speaker 2: gold and if so, what happened to them? Why do
- 1:39:32Speaker 2: they If they didn't exist, then why are those areas
- 1:39:36Speaker 2: such a hot spot for UFO activity?
- 1:39:39Speaker 3: M Yeah, for sure. And there is definitely areas like
- 1:39:43Speaker 3: like Eri that have got for some reason, the energy there.
- 1:39:47Speaker 3: Whatever it is, there's a lot of strangers that happens there.
- 1:39:51Speaker 3: There's got to be something to that.
- 1:39:53Speaker 2: Yeah, something buried under the lake, something that we will
- 1:39:58Speaker 2: never know, just like they say that the Sphinx in
- 1:40:04Speaker 2: Egypt was under its pause where all these chambers of
- 1:40:09Speaker 2: rooms either filled with treasure and gold or filled with
- 1:40:15Speaker 2: scrolls in all like the Seven Sacred Sciences, like alchemy
- 1:40:19Speaker 2: and like tablets and all these secrets of life were
- 1:40:22Speaker 2: buried under the sphinx. And then they took like a
- 1:40:26Speaker 2: ground penetrating radar and they confirmed that there were chambers
- 1:40:30Speaker 2: under the Sphinx, but that they were probably empty. Now
- 1:40:33Speaker 2: what I'm what I'm thinking is, of course they're probably
- 1:40:38Speaker 2: empty because people who know way more than we know
- 1:40:42Speaker 2: already pillaged that shit like that's in the fucking vault somewhere.
- 1:40:46Speaker 2: We're never gonna, like, the dude that works part time
- 1:40:50Speaker 2: at hobby Lobby is not gonna do a fucking excavation
- 1:40:53Speaker 2: and find some shit like they're not finding the City
- 1:40:56Speaker 2: of Gold. They're not finding the treasure under this thing.
- 1:41:00Speaker 2: Normal people will never like that's all been confiscated, you know,
- 1:41:06Speaker 2: But it doesn't mean it didn't exist. That's my point though.
- 1:41:11Speaker 3: And that's why it's down for people like us to
- 1:41:15Speaker 3: talk about it, bring it back. Yes, super interesting. Oh man,
- 1:41:21Speaker 3: I'm so glad we had this conversation. As soon as
- 1:41:23Speaker 3: you told me that you'd had these experiences, I didn't
- 1:41:26Speaker 3: know what to expect, but I was excited.
- 1:41:28Speaker 2: And wow, I hope I didn't disappoint.
- 1:41:33Speaker 3: But it did not disappoint.
- 1:41:35Speaker 2: I guess we could just call it the newest chapter
- 1:41:37Speaker 2: and crazy stuff that happens to me.
- 1:41:40Speaker 3: Yes, super, Can I I know we've been here for
- 1:41:45Speaker 3: a while, but can I tell you an experience that
- 1:41:47Speaker 3: I had last night which was very friend last night
- 1:41:51Speaker 3: last night, and I've got to tell you I've not
- 1:41:54Speaker 3: told anyone yet what I was. It was about two
- 1:41:59Speaker 3: three o'clock in the morning, and I was having trouble
- 1:42:02Speaker 3: sleep and I just couldn't sleep. I was like tossing
- 1:42:04Speaker 3: and turning. I was really tired, but I couldn't. I
- 1:42:07Speaker 3: just could not sleep, and I'm like laying there and
- 1:42:09Speaker 3: I was having like this weird sort of anxiety. For
- 1:42:13Speaker 3: some reason, I felt this, I felt anxious, and I
- 1:42:15Speaker 3: was like, I didn't really understand it. I've had it before,
- 1:42:18Speaker 3: but it was like, I don't know, I just didn't
- 1:42:20Speaker 3: feel right, if that makes sense. And anyway, I wasn't asleep,
- 1:42:26Speaker 3: but I was really trying to get asleep, and I
- 1:42:29Speaker 3: heard very clearly in my wife's voice, Tom, very very clearly,
- 1:42:34Speaker 3: my just saying Tom. It was just like and I went, yeah,
- 1:42:41Speaker 3: my wife was just asleep next to me, and I
- 1:42:43Speaker 3: was like, oh man, I was so so freaked out.
- 1:42:47Speaker 3: Because I had something a few weeks back where I
- 1:42:49Speaker 3: heard dad something say Dad. I thought it was my son,
- 1:42:54Speaker 3: and that that happened and freaked me out. So that
- 1:42:58Speaker 3: happened last night. I heard a voice.
- 1:43:00Speaker 2: But aren't you still living in the same house where
- 1:43:02Speaker 2: you said you went to go sleep in the bedroom
- 1:43:04Speaker 2: with your daughters and saw something.
- 1:43:06Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, and that's where. That's the room I'm in
- 1:43:09Speaker 3: now because I took him out because they weren't sleeping
- 1:43:13Speaker 3: well in that room, so I was like, let's get
- 1:43:15Speaker 3: you in another room that can be my studio, the
- 1:43:17Speaker 3: haunted room, and I'm in that room now. Yeah.
- 1:43:24Speaker 2: Have you experienced anything in there?
- 1:43:26Speaker 3: Not really. I've talked to people that have said that
- 1:43:30Speaker 3: they can see something in here, but I've not. I've
- 1:43:33Speaker 3: heard like noises and stuff. But even though I had
- 1:43:36Speaker 3: that experience where I saw something coming towards the room,
- 1:43:39Speaker 3: the face, like a floating face coming towards the room.
- 1:43:42Speaker 3: Anyone who's not listening to those episodes now and I
- 1:43:44Speaker 3: think I'm crazy. I saw a face comeing towards the room,
- 1:43:48Speaker 3: like the shadow of a face. I wasn't super scared
- 1:43:52Speaker 3: at that time, which is quite weird. I find I
- 1:43:54Speaker 3: find that strange. I wasn't super scared, but I just
- 1:43:58Speaker 3: don't get like I really my wife does, the kids
- 1:44:00Speaker 3: do they get a bad feeling in this room the
- 1:44:03Speaker 3: only room in the house that they get it? And
- 1:44:05Speaker 3: but I don't really I don't really care if reason.
- 1:44:08Speaker 2: And now it's my studio, but when you're in your
- 1:44:11Speaker 2: own room you hear stuff.
- 1:44:13Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, I've experienced stuff all around the house,
- 1:44:16Speaker 3: like shadow figures. I've seen a black cat running the
- 1:44:21Speaker 3: house that we don't have a cat before we had
- 1:44:24Speaker 3: a dog.
- 1:44:25Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:44:26Speaker 3: I've experienced some weird stuff here. Yeah, but I don't
- 1:44:29Speaker 3: get a bad vibe from it here, if that makes sense.
- 1:44:31Speaker 3: Like where I lived when I was a kid and
- 1:44:33Speaker 3: was in the haunted house. That was that was freaky,
- 1:44:37Speaker 3: That was bad vibes. There does seem to be stuff
- 1:44:40Speaker 3: happening here, But it doesn't scare me for some reason.
- 1:44:43Speaker 3: I don't know if it's because I'm getting more used
- 1:44:45Speaker 3: to talking about it and I'm inviting it. I don't know.
- 1:44:50Speaker 3: It does still scare me. It still scares me when
- 1:44:52Speaker 3: stuff happens.
- 1:44:54Speaker 2: You're like, well, I asked it to be here, and
- 1:44:56Speaker 2: now it's called my name out, So.
- 1:45:00Speaker 3: I answered I literally was like, yeah, I just thought
- 1:45:03Speaker 3: it was My wife freaked me out so.
- 1:45:06Speaker 2: Much, like what's up?
- 1:45:13Speaker 3: That was last night? So I had to I had
- 1:45:15Speaker 3: to share that because yeah, I.
- 1:45:17Speaker 2: Think about that like you just you, and that's what
- 1:45:20Speaker 2: solidifies it as a real experience, like the taps on
- 1:45:23Speaker 2: my back, because you react to it like that definitely happened.
- 1:45:29Speaker 2: Let me make sure it wasn't like, let me make
- 1:45:31Speaker 2: sure my wife didn't say it, or like, let me
- 1:45:33Speaker 2: make sure my husband didn't and they're fast asleep and
- 1:45:36Speaker 2: you still are like, hey, wake up, did you Are
- 1:45:38Speaker 2: you sure it wasn't you?
- 1:45:39Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I had a thing recent where I
- 1:45:43Speaker 3: woke up and I thought my wife was sitting up
- 1:45:46Speaker 3: and I thought she was like crying or something. So
- 1:45:48Speaker 3: I was like, are you all right? And I've gone
- 1:45:50Speaker 3: through whatever this was looked down and my wife was
- 1:45:53Speaker 3: just there sleeping, and I was like, oh, man.
- 1:45:57Speaker 2: I'm surprised you're able to stay in there, because I am.
- 1:46:01Speaker 3: That's too much if I'm on my own in the house.
- 1:46:06Speaker 3: Not I'm very rarely on my own in the house,
- 1:46:08Speaker 3: but I am the light the lights are on, or
- 1:46:11Speaker 3: the telly's on, you know, I can't sleep in the
- 1:46:14Speaker 3: dark on my own. I know that sounds sad, but
- 1:46:16Speaker 3: that's the truth. I can't. I have to have the
- 1:46:19Speaker 3: telly on some background noise, you know, because.
- 1:46:23Speaker 2: Yeah, so I probably have told I probably have said
- 1:46:27Speaker 2: this to you before, but my husband is a freak
- 1:46:32Speaker 2: of nature and he likes to sleep in the complete
- 1:46:34Speaker 2: darkness and silence with nothing, no lights, no TV, no sounds, nothing.
- 1:46:41Speaker 2: And I want to have six TVs on two lamps,
- 1:46:44Speaker 2: like seven fans, just something to cut the noise in
- 1:46:48Speaker 2: the darkness. So the compromise is that I sleep on
- 1:46:54Speaker 2: my side and I prop my phone up and I
- 1:46:57Speaker 2: watch like Hulu and movies and stuff on my phone
- 1:47:00Speaker 2: to try to get myself to sleep at night, and
- 1:47:04Speaker 2: even still with the room completely dark and the only
- 1:47:08Speaker 2: light in the room coming from my phone, Like if
- 1:47:12Speaker 2: if there's a dark scene in the movie or something,
- 1:47:15Speaker 2: or if the show like cuts out and my screen
- 1:47:19Speaker 2: goes black, I'm like, like, I can't. I just can't
- 1:47:23Speaker 2: be in the complete darkness. It's terrifying to me. So
- 1:47:29Speaker 2: that's how I know when I got that like flash
- 1:47:33Speaker 2: in my mind. I was watching TV, not on my phone,
- 1:47:36Speaker 2: but like on our bedroom TV. I wasn't scared because
- 1:47:40Speaker 2: like the big TV was on, and like the when
- 1:47:44Speaker 2: I had taken the blanket off or whatever and I
- 1:47:48Speaker 2: felt those taps, I was already scared because it was
- 1:47:51Speaker 2: like the middle of the night. But it's just when
- 1:47:55Speaker 2: you're not expecting it, you know, yeah, like I'm not
- 1:47:58Speaker 2: even scared right now, and I usually would be scared,
- 1:48:01Speaker 2: but I'm not even scared right now, and then something
- 1:48:03Speaker 2: happens and then you're like, oh shit, now I know
- 1:48:06Speaker 2: why I'm scared all the time, because it gets you
- 1:48:09Speaker 2: when you're least expecting it.
- 1:48:11Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, but when when you've experienced that. We
- 1:48:15Speaker 3: both have, we both experienced freaky stuff, and once you
- 1:48:18Speaker 3: know there's more out there and you know anything's actually possible,
- 1:48:23Speaker 3: we're doomed. We can't relaxing. I know.
- 1:48:31Speaker 2: That is a good way to put it. Yeah, because
- 1:48:34Speaker 2: you never you're never really fully at ease because you're like, well,
- 1:48:38Speaker 2: I wasn't expecting it that one time and it happened.
- 1:48:41Speaker 3: So yeah, I could just see a shadow figure it
- 1:48:44Speaker 3: out of nowhere. It happens.
- 1:48:47Speaker 2: Yeah, And sometimes you're like so not expecting it. It's
- 1:48:50Speaker 2: like you said, you're not even scared at first, because
- 1:48:52Speaker 2: you're like, the fuck was that? And then you start
- 1:48:55Speaker 2: thinking about it and you're like, did I really just
- 1:48:57Speaker 2: see that? I'm like this real life. Yeah, yeah, it's weird.
- 1:49:02Speaker 2: It's really weird. Even walking through like that haunted place
- 1:49:07Speaker 2: that I knew was haunted. I wanted something to happen
- 1:49:12Speaker 2: so I could like document it on my phone. When
- 1:49:14Speaker 2: it happened, I was like I didn't. I don't want
- 1:49:17Speaker 2: this to happen anymore. Like I'm over it, Like this
- 1:49:20Speaker 2: is really real. Yeah, it scary.
- 1:49:23Speaker 3: Once you experience something that you know it's definitely paranormal,
- 1:49:27Speaker 3: there's no explaining it. You're like, Okay, that's enough now
- 1:49:31Speaker 3: I know it's real. You don't need to show me anymore.
- 1:49:34Speaker 2: Exactly. That's really how I felt, too, because I was like,
- 1:49:38Speaker 2: oh man, nothing's happening. Nothing's happening. And then it just
- 1:49:42Speaker 2: was like a really condensed, like a spurt of time
- 1:49:46Speaker 2: where a bunch of stuff happened, and I was just
- 1:49:48Speaker 2: ready to leave after that because I thought, you know,
- 1:49:52Speaker 2: after the Knox on the Wall, that that would be
- 1:49:56Speaker 2: like the one big thing that happened. And then it
- 1:49:59Speaker 2: just like more stuff kept happening as the night went
- 1:50:02Speaker 2: on and then randomly I forgot to mention we all
- 1:50:07Speaker 2: went into this bathroom and I started feeling like my
- 1:50:11Speaker 2: heart was beating really fast when I walked into the bathroom.
- 1:50:16Speaker 2: And I wasn't sure if it was just me being
- 1:50:19Speaker 2: scared or if it was something paranormal. But I didn't
- 1:50:21Speaker 2: have that happen in any other area of the whole
- 1:50:25Speaker 2: asylum or whatever. But the second I walked into that bathroom,
- 1:50:29Speaker 2: my heart just started beating really fast. And then I
- 1:50:32Speaker 2: walked out and this dude who I don't didn't even know,
- 1:50:37Speaker 2: he was just there with his group, walked up to
- 1:50:40Speaker 2: me and he was like, it's creepy and there isn't
- 1:50:41Speaker 2: it And I was like yeah, and he said, well,
- 1:50:44Speaker 2: I just caught a EVP in there. It's on my
- 1:50:48Speaker 2: grandpa's recorder if you want to listen to it. And
- 1:50:52Speaker 2: he said he caught a EVP in that bathroom of
- 1:50:56Speaker 2: a man's voice saying I was murdered, and I didn't
- 1:51:02Speaker 2: I never found his grandpa to get to listen to it,
- 1:51:05Speaker 2: but he was freaked out and he was like, I
- 1:51:07Speaker 2: won't go back in that bathroom. And when you walk
- 1:51:11Speaker 2: in there, it's obviously pitch black. And you just have
- 1:51:14Speaker 2: your flashlight. But there's just like this old, like dingy
- 1:51:18Speaker 2: ass bathtub and like a toilet, and it's just.
- 1:51:24Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 1:51:25Speaker 2: The second I walked in there, my heart started like pounding,
- 1:51:28Speaker 2: so I wanted to get out. And then that guy
- 1:51:30Speaker 2: was like, oh yeah, we got a recording of some
- 1:51:34Speaker 2: guy saying he was murdered in there, and I was like, well,
- 1:51:37Speaker 2: maybe he had a heart attack, because I'm getting some weird,
- 1:51:41Speaker 2: hard stuff up in this mother. So you just never know.
- 1:51:45Speaker 3: You were definitely getting like spiritually attacked, but the sounds
- 1:51:50Speaker 3: of it, you was experiencing being sick. You hear that
- 1:51:53Speaker 3: a lot when people are in haunting places and terrifying stuff,
- 1:51:57Speaker 3: but super interesting.
- 1:51:59Speaker 2: It really is. And it's like I always say, sometimes
- 1:52:02Speaker 2: your best detector for even other people in situations is
- 1:52:08Speaker 2: your body. If you feel something, just always follow your gut.
- 1:52:15Speaker 2: If you meet a new person and you get that
- 1:52:17Speaker 2: itck on you, if you go into a place and
- 1:52:20Speaker 2: you get that itck on you, you know something is bad,
- 1:52:23Speaker 2: just just go with your gut, don't fight it. I mean, yeah,
- 1:52:28Speaker 2: you've never met this person and you don't know for
- 1:52:31Speaker 2: sure that they're like a bad person. Or whatever. But
- 1:52:34Speaker 2: if you feel like you met them and you know
- 1:52:36Speaker 2: nothing about them, but you feel something coming off them,
- 1:52:40Speaker 2: just because you can't see it, or just because you
- 1:52:43Speaker 2: don't know something is one hundred percent true, doesn't mean
- 1:52:47Speaker 2: it's not real period, Like they could be a Gia
- 1:52:51Speaker 2: molestor for all you fucking know.
- 1:52:55Speaker 3: Experience that where we've met someone and there's no reason
- 1:52:59Speaker 3: for you to you're like, there's just something about that
- 1:53:02Speaker 3: person that you're like, I don't know what it is.
- 1:53:04Speaker 3: They're really nice, we having a good conversation, but for
- 1:53:07Speaker 3: some reason, I'm getting a vibe that there's something not right.
- 1:53:11Speaker 3: We all felt that, we've all let that.
- 1:53:14Speaker 2: Yeah, just and the reason I mentioned that is because
- 1:53:17Speaker 2: just recently, and it's like I put I put stuff
- 1:53:21Speaker 2: out of my mind, and then I really shouldn't because
- 1:53:24Speaker 2: people like you and people like me who talk about
- 1:53:27Speaker 2: this stuff and we know that it's real, we do
- 1:53:29Speaker 2: get vibes about people, and we do get vibes about stuff.
- 1:53:32Speaker 2: And I work at a clinic and a patient came
- 1:53:37Speaker 2: in and even just like brief, the brief encounter that
- 1:53:42Speaker 2: I had with him, like getting his treatment plan put
- 1:53:45Speaker 2: together and stuff I told my coworkers. I was like,
- 1:53:49Speaker 2: I feel sick when I'm by him, speaking to him,
- 1:53:55Speaker 2: looking at him, like I want to like, I feel gaggy,
- 1:53:58Speaker 2: like I feel that it can me like just gross.
- 1:54:03Speaker 2: So I just and this is probably a hip of violation,
- 1:54:08Speaker 2: but I googled his name, like his first name, last name.
- 1:54:12Speaker 2: I won't say it obviously, but the first thing that
- 1:54:15Speaker 2: pulled up was a federal court case. It went all
- 1:54:19Speaker 2: the way to the federal level with this dude, and
- 1:54:22Speaker 2: there was a mug shot and everything, so I know
- 1:54:24Speaker 2: it was him literally raped his six year old granddaughter,
- 1:54:29Speaker 2: video taped it, took pictures of it, posted it on
- 1:54:32Speaker 2: a freaking website, and got freaking busted and just got
- 1:54:36Speaker 2: out of jail recently. He spent like fifteen sixteen years
- 1:54:39Speaker 2: in prison over that. And I was like, I fucking
- 1:54:44Speaker 2: knew it. I knew it, Like just being around the guy,
- 1:54:48Speaker 2: I wanted to throw up.
- 1:54:50Speaker 3: That's wild.
- 1:54:51Speaker 2: There was nothing like super outwardly, like he didn't have
- 1:54:55Speaker 2: like a freaking swastika on his forehead or something like
- 1:54:58Speaker 2: weird prison tats and to like a he was scape
- 1:55:01Speaker 2: he's ridden or anything. He was just an older dude.
- 1:55:05Speaker 2: He was wearing a button up shirt in cargo shorts
- 1:55:07Speaker 2: like you'd never think anything of it. He drove a
- 1:55:11Speaker 2: super like a brand new twenty twenty five BMW. Fucking uh,
- 1:55:17Speaker 2: what do they call it? Why is the word escaping
- 1:55:22Speaker 2: in my mind? Not like a car, but like an suv,
- 1:55:26Speaker 2: like a BMW suv super nice, all tricked out like
- 1:55:30Speaker 2: he had money how I don't know. He just got
- 1:55:34Speaker 2: out of fucking prison. I don't know a lot of
- 1:55:36Speaker 2: people who just get out of prison who can buy
- 1:55:38Speaker 2: twenty five fucking BMW's. But it's like there was no
- 1:55:44Speaker 2: reason for me to have been, like I can't even
- 1:55:47Speaker 2: be a rather fucking guy like somebody else do his paperwork.
- 1:55:50Speaker 2: I can't do it. Then I googled this shit like
- 1:55:53Speaker 2: I just had that inkling like when I saw that
- 1:55:55Speaker 2: face like flash, and I was like, I'm just gonna
- 1:55:57Speaker 2: google it and see, fucking sh shit is real, wild,
- 1:56:02Speaker 2: it is real.
- 1:56:03Speaker 3: Yeah, you're picking up on his aura or something.
- 1:56:07Speaker 2: Man.
- 1:56:08Speaker 3: He should be in prison for life.
- 1:56:09Speaker 2: Man.
- 1:56:09Speaker 3: I mean there's some things that, yeah, you should just
- 1:56:12Speaker 3: be throwing away and they should throw the key away man,
- 1:56:16Speaker 3: because that is shocking.
- 1:56:18Speaker 2: It's disgusting.
- 1:56:20Speaker 3: Wow.
- 1:56:21Speaker 2: And now every time I now that I know that.
- 1:56:24Speaker 2: Every time I see the motherfucker, I'm gonna be like,
- 1:56:27Speaker 2: I hope you die. I hope you die. I hope
- 1:56:29Speaker 2: you die. I hope you freaking get freaking's wild. Let's
- 1:56:33Speaker 2: accidentally overdose him somebody in the back. Can we do?
- 1:56:38Speaker 2: Let me Timpt, one of our nerds, is like, can
- 1:56:40Speaker 2: we give him just a little extra.
- 1:56:41Speaker 3: Propofall that's mad that you picked up on that I did.
- 1:56:50Speaker 2: I was crazy, like, there's this one girl I work
- 1:56:53Speaker 2: with who tries to see the best in everybody. And
- 1:56:55Speaker 2: she was like, oh my god, Julia, he's like super nice.
- 1:56:58Speaker 2: He's like a super nice, like old dude, Like you're
- 1:57:02Speaker 2: you always exaggerate, That's what she said. She was like,
- 1:57:04Speaker 2: you always exaggerate. And I was like, I just.
- 1:57:10Speaker 3: I did.
- 1:57:10Speaker 2: Like when I finally found it out and I googled it,
- 1:57:14Speaker 2: I took screenshots of everything, and then I sent it
- 1:57:16Speaker 2: to her and I was like, told you, bitch. And
- 1:57:21Speaker 2: then now all of a sudden, she's like, yeah, fuck
- 1:57:24Speaker 2: that guy. I was like, Okay, now it's fucked that guy.
- 1:57:31Speaker 2: Trusted my intuition.
- 1:57:33Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well you've definitely got You're definitely I would
- 1:57:39Speaker 3: say sensitive, like you've had experiences throughout your life, You've
- 1:57:43Speaker 3: there's more there.
- 1:57:45Speaker 2: You know, well, you know it takes one to know
- 1:57:46Speaker 2: when I would say the same thing about you.
- 1:57:49Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think we've we've got it.
- 1:57:52Speaker 2: Birds of a Feather.
- 1:57:57Speaker 3: Judy, I've loved talking to you tonight. It's been soon
- 1:58:00Speaker 3: for interesting. Thank you for coming on and sharing it
- 1:58:02Speaker 3: or let's get freaky, and.
- 1:58:05Speaker 2: For having me. It's been a blast.
- 1:58:07Speaker 3: It sounds like I'm hoping there's no more activity. I'm
- 1:58:11Speaker 3: hoping that's it.
- 1:58:12Speaker 2: I hope so too.
- 1:58:13Speaker 3: I feel like we could listen back to this recording
- 1:58:15Speaker 3: and we might hear some stuff because I've heard things.
- 1:58:19Speaker 3: I don't know if it's I don't know. We'll see
- 1:58:22Speaker 3: when we listen back.
- 1:58:26Speaker 2: When we go to edit this, we'll hear little voices
- 1:58:28Speaker 2: and yeah, yeah.
- 1:58:31Speaker 3: That's happened before. I've experienced that.
- 1:58:35Speaker 2: That's greet Wow.
- 1:58:38Speaker 3: Well, can you tell the listeners where they can find you?
- 1:58:41Speaker 3: Because your show is awesome? Where can they find Cosmic Peach?
- 1:58:46Speaker 2: Thank you? Yeah, I'm wherever you listen to podcasts. I
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