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Full Intel On Two Days Of Eagles Practices Vs. Browns · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, Welcome to another edition of Inside the Birds.
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It's Adam Kaplan and the great Andrew d'iceco. Andrew.
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Speaker 2: Good to see again, and I'm always going to be
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with you, my friend, all right.
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Speaker 1: So first of all, before we get started, now only
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do you write for us at Inside the Birds dot
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com and you do the daily to checko, which we
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all love. Right, you're also a ninety seventy five fanatic.
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Continue the tradition. Jeff and I hosted a show for
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two years on the Fanatic Jodah Cameron I before we
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went to WP thirteen to fifteen. So speaking of the fanatic,
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let people know when they could hear you or give
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Speaker 2: Well, they can hear me today from two to six
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I'll be on Unfiltered with Bill Colorulo and Ricky Batalico. Nice,
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and then it kind of varies from there. Then I
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have a you know, every Tuesday and Friday and Mom
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with then Tuesday four to six, every Friday from two
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to six.
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Speaker 1: Nice, nice, nice, nice. All right, So Chuck Andrew out,
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So Andrew, you and I and Jeff were at practices
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this week, and the first thing before we get into
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the depth of what we know, what we hear, and
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what we think is going to happen where we stand,
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and what this thing could look like over the next
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three weeks. What are your thoughts of going to these
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showing practices.
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Speaker 2: I love it because there's a palpable sense of intensity
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and urgency in the air, and I feel like you
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just get more accomplished because you're able to dictate whether
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you want to work on red zone, whether you want
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to work on other situation or one on ones, and
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then the team drills in that controlled environment. I just
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think that teams get so much of a benefit out
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of those joint practices.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. In fact, talking to some of the coaches just
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coming off the field, like the Browns loved it because
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they don't Flack goes on an athlete, at least not
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the guy he was. He's got good mobility for a
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guy's forty, but Dylan Gabriel's mobile, but he's not a
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runner like Hertz. And they like going against Hurts, who
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obviously they know him. This is their third during practice.
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They've gone against them before, they know the quarterback, but
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this is, as you mentioned, a great way to get
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another look. I think so that was great and then
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what I found interesting is if you compare Wednesday to Thursday,
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and we're now today's Friday, so we're one day before
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the game. But it's interesting like Wednesday, and we knew
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Wednesday be heavier practice because you're three days away compared
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to two days away from practice, But what do you
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think of the way that Wednesdays and Thursday's practices were
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run compared late to drills and all that stuff.
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Speaker 2: So Wednesday had the one on ones, it also had
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some special teams drills, and it was a heavy eleven
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on eleven, which I love. But then you look at Thursday,
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and Thursday was exclusively eleven on eleven with a couple
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of special teams practices mixed in. No seven on sevens,
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no one on ones. So it was fast paced, it
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was brisk, and they got a lot of accomplished And
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that's something that I noticed at them from all the
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Eagles practices that I attend, and it's been to all
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of them this summer. YEP very efficient, very fast, and
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very little wasted time.
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Speaker 1: I think it's an advantage for Nick Sirie on the
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Eagles head coach, to be the CEO where he doesn't
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call the plays. We noticed about Tom Coughlin and who's
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a Super Bowl winner, of other CEO head coaches where
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they're not coaching one side of the football. Of course,
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Nick is an offensive guys, so he has a proclivity
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to the offense. But you'll see him go to station
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to station, not always on offense. I think that that's
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one of the secret sauces of Sirianni's development as a coach,
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to be able to put fires out when they need
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to be, to observe his coach of coaches, coaches, not
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only his players. It has actually work well. We don't
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talk a lot a lot about it, but I did
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notice on Tuesday Wednesday. And by the way, Kevin Stefancy
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is very similar. He hasn't always called the place. Some
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years he does, some years he doesn't. So let's get started.
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Eagles offense versus the Browns defense, and the way they
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set it up is it's surely on two fields, although
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special teams might be on the third tier in terms
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of the kickers and punters, but typically what you see
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is okay, Eagles offense versus Brown's defense in one field
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and field three it's the exact opposite. So let's get
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to the Eagles. We're gonna do an overview the first
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two days. So Tanner McKee, you've now seen him. This
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is year three, and obviously you get a little bit
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more a high speed thing. As you said you talked
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about to set this thing up. What were your thoughts
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of McKee this week?
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Speaker 2: He processes so quickly at him when he's at the controls,
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the ball gets out of his hands quickly. He trusts
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his receivers, which you don't often see from younger quarterbacks
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that are working with an interchangeable group of cast of characters,
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I guess you could say. But he also throws the
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ball with such touch and accuracy. He throws a beautiful
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deep ball, and that's something that has really registered with
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me over the past couple of years. Really, but I thought,
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really the last couple of weeks in particular, Tanner mckeey.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the thing other than the mobility, which has come
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a long way in really the last two seasons, two
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off seasons, is his touch from shrediera passes. This has
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really improved. It's not easy when you're six six to
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take something off of it, and he's done a really
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good job of doing that. And I would add this
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with Hertz Boy his timing. I know people knock him
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because it's all tape based, but I know from watching
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him up close this summer, being in a number of practices,
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particularly the last two in the red zone or it's tight,
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you got to make stick throws, he made them. He
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was more willing to throw it in tight areas and
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I thought that's an area of improvement for him. And
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then of course with Dory Thompson Robbinson a former Brown,
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and Kyle McCord, and we don't get to see him
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because quite frankly, it's about the ones and the twos
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in practice.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but between the two, I think Dorian Thompson Robinson
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has started to come on after not making that much
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of a splash earlier in camp. Obviously, reps are limited
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for both he and Kyle McCord. Kyle McCord and sometimes
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context is important in this situation where he went one
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for five in the interception, but he's also working with,
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you know, a deep reserve offensive line and players that
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you know that he doesn't maybe often work with. But
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I think for DTR he started to build some confidence.
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He throws a nice pass and he's the more reps
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that he's getting the more of a rhythm he's getting into,
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and I've noticed that the receivers that he's working with
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they have confidence in him and vice versa.
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Speaker 1: So let's move to running back, and you and I
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have chronicled Will Shipley since who was drafted. Everybody knows
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about the speed, and then you had aj Dillon, who's
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clearly healthy. By the way, what do you think of
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these two guys as accombinations? In particular, if Barkley couldn't
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play in the regular season, what are your thoughts on
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these two guys carry the load.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really interesting. Will Shipley has made gradual strides
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in terms of pass protection. In fact, on Wednesday he
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had a nice rep against Jerome Baker, the linebacker, but
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he just has so much jukes at him. He's electric
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graph for the catch. He's such a natural pass catcher,
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but he also has home run hitting ability, and in
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my opinion, in game he's the ideal change of pace
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running back to sa Kwon Barkley, that change up runner.
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Whereas if the Eagles needed to lean on a player
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to handle volume, well that would be Aj Dillon. He's
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proved it before. He can handle eighteen to twenty carries
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in a game, and I think and it's all relative.
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He's shown some decent wiggle when explodes exploding through the hole,
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and he's caught the ball pretty well this summer. Now,
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the big question that we all had was how was
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he going to handle the riggers that come with a
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game and handle contact? And thus far he's checking off
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those boxes.
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Speaker 1: One of the things surprised me. We're gonna start with
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Shipley here before we move on to the receivers. You're right,
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he catches the ball and we know he moves well.
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You and I saw that last summer. But the thing
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you could be fast, but if you can't set up
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your blocks. Well, he had won and Wednesday's practiced. I'm
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looking at my notes here. So Hertz dropped it off.
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He caught it, but he waited. Okay, he waited to
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his offensive line got there and set him up and
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he went upfield. I'm like, wow, that is really good
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for a young player. Very impressed by him. And then
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with Dylan, the thing that surprised me is he has
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this jump cut. Then I'm like, wait a minute, this
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guy's two forty five to two forty seven. Where did
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this come from?
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Speaker 2: He's not supposed to do that.
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Speaker 1: No, he's not. He looks really good to me. This
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is the bet. Now again, they have to perform if
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they're asked to. But this is the best combo they've
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had as backup running backs in a long time. And
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I'm pretty impressed. This looks good. It's been a little
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bit better than anticipated. Let's get the receiver, you know what,
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Andrew to start training camp. My thought was that I
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don't know about this backup group, but let's get to
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you first. What are your thoughts on these guys? Cooper
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Wilson and I Smith, Marshall Cooks I know just started
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to come back morning, even Charles Jackson.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. So aside from the top three, Johnny Wilson got
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off to a slow start in training camp. He wasn't
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playing to his size and he had some concentration drops.
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What I've noticed Adam over the past week, even before
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the preseason game, that he had three catches seventy three
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yards and he was going up and using his size
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and his frame to shield defenders and Hygh pointing the football.
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He was making catches in traffic a couple of practices
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previous to that game, and when you start to make
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plays like that, you start to stack the days, as
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they say, and build that confidence. And I believe that
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while it was a little bit slower for him to
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hit that stride as a receiver, we know what he
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could do as a blocker. But I do believe that
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when you're able to have those successive practices like that,
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you start to get into a rhythm. And then Annia Smith,
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he's flashed in one on ones. To me, he's had
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some interesting reps against Cooper Degene, being able to separate
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the top of his route use that short area quickness.
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But he hasn't done really anything in terms of team drills.
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He hasn't made splashy plays. In fact, he had to
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drop a couple of weeks ago. That's the one play
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that I could think of. But the player here that
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has really caught my eye, and he caught my eye
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earlier in camp is Darius Cooper, the undrafted wide receiver
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out of Tarlatan State. He can play inside, he can
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play outside, good quickness, and the moment never seems to
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be too big for him. And I think it really
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speaks to the way that he's rest that no matter
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who the quarterback is, whether it's Jay when hurts or
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Tane m Key. They trust him to go and make
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the play and attack the football, and I think that
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there's something to be said for that.
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Speaker 1: He his major urgency is a scouting term. I mean
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he taxed it, as you said. Now here's the book
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on We were looking for this information. We finally got
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it from some scouting switches around the league. So this
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is interesting. So he and Max and Hook were both
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academic All Americans last season, Hook at Toledo and Cooper
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at Charlton State. He was actually going to probably head
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to a someone told me in a sort of an
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athletic training career had he not played football. But the
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big reason why he was not drafted of the lista
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we're going to give you he was a high school quarterback.
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They thought he would transition better to receiver and then quarterback.
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At Charlton State, one of the coaches, I think someone
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told me, suggested to him, hey, man, i think you're
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probably better off moving to it to quarterbacks, from quarterback
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to receiver. So we did that with in the first year. Now,
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despite the numbers he put up late in his career,
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didn't even a matter. No All Star Game, invite, no
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Combine invite. He was on this seniorble watch list I
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think up to senior season, but he wasn't invited. And
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the other problem is the level of competition over the years. Now,
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I know that they transition to D one from D
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two in twenty twenty, but they were in a four
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year like an evaluation, and then they just were eligible
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for playoffs in college football last season. So you got
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to add this all up. Now it makes sense, Andrew,
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because seeing this kid attack it as you talked about it. Uh,
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Jeff and I were talking to my quick about it
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this week. When you see a guy play like this,
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who's been let's call it like it as one of
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the best receivers in cabnot named Smith or Brown, you
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question like that, what are the teams missing on it?
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But now you get it because of the information we
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just gave you. There wasn't really a reason to draft
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the guy because you had you would have to in scouting,
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you'd have to stick your gazintas on the line for
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lack of a better turn. You're gonna if you're gonna
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jump on the table. If the Treffls guy even seventh,
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that's it. Look, you you would have to say he's
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a draftable guy, but no team thought he was draftable.
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And by the way, the Eagles to move us along here,
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they gave ninety one thousand guaranteed. It's not like two
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hundred and fifty thousand guarantee, which gave Hall got last year.
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So we got to put that in proper context.
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Speaker 2: You often every camp has a receiver who is sort
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of a lower end in the pecking order to start
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that emerges or has a big summer, but they sometimes don't.
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They're not able to correlate that into a regular season
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success or staying power for that matter. Darius Cooper is
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different in my opinion, because I see certain qualities that
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I believe will translate over ability to attack the football
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build on days, and what I mean by that is
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show improvement day to day. You don't see someone who
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gets stagnant or who flashes for a week. He's been
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very consistent. And there's something to be said for Jalen
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Hurts throwing him the football. There was a day where
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he threw him. He made a catch on a low pass.
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Jayalen Hurts gives him a high five, acknowledging him. They
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know that he belongs and and Darius Cooper knows that
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he belongs. And I don't know if you noticed. On Thursday, Adam,
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they had Darius Cooper on the first team kickoff and
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he was obviously the first two kick returners were will
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Shipley and AJ Dillon, but the next pair Darius Cooper
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and Avery Williams. So they're trying to find ways to
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get him involved and maximize that value.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm putting him on my Like in a first
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week of August in twenty twenty two, I remember saying
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on a show, Flagship's making the team. I'm in. This
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kid's making it. There's no way that they see. The
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thing is other teams. You know, they have like interns
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monitoring Twitter. The word got out in Darius Cooper, and
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they also get what are called news clips, so they
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know thirty one of their teams in the Cooper's player.
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They're not cut them, They're not gonna wave them there.
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You're not going to risk it. And on your point
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and that which is really one of the best of
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all of all of this, he does it every game practice,
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every practice. He shows up because he knows he's an
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undreftter free agent. You're not a lock to make the team.
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So I give I think it's cam Bradfield, the Southwest
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scout who's responsible, and obviously Howie for signing them and
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however they did it. It's just it's a it's a
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big time job by them, all right. So receiver wise,
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I know Cooks, who was one of the stars of camp,
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just got back. He needed to be back. I noticed
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on Thursday Tarres Marshall was a lot not all the time,
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but a lot of times. He's the backup X receiver
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for AJ Brown, which he had been before Brown got hurt,
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so that I thought that was pretty good that he's
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back and he needs to make up for lost time.
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Johnny Wilson knew. What's interesting this is how much they
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love him as a blocker. They ran They ran a
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set of ten personnel, which is four receivers and one back,
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and they kept him in a block which tells you
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his value in addition to his size it's over six
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six and everything that he brings to the table when
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he applies himself. I thought that was pretty interesting. Now,
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one more guy before we move on, tell us about
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Taylor Moran, the undrafted free agent. What are your thoughts
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on him well.
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Speaker 2: I think he has really good shrey quick this, and
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he has a compact built so he's a little bit
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of a more sturdy bill compared to let's say Britain Covey.
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They have similar they're similar in height, but I think
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Taylor Moren is able to kind of showcase some contact
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balance when he gets on the move. He catches the
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ball well, he tracks the football well. He's had some
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nice moments. He's called two touchdowns in the open practice
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and he's caught a couple from Dorian Thompson Robinson as well.
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He's also a prolific punp returner. I don't know if
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that's talked about it enough. He doesn't get the reps
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ahead of let's say Naya Smith or and Avery Williams,
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but because he has multipurpose value, you can make a
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case for keeping him on the practice squad because I
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do think that there's something there.
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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this question before, because I know
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you and the local beat reporters put together there final
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fifty three, and I know it's hard to keep seven receivers.
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That's not going to happen, But do you think there's
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a chance to keep six? I do think they keep
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six who would be who would be your quick sex
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right now?
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Speaker 2: Without me tipping my head too much for these they
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spent the three coming up by A. J. Brown, DeVante Smith,
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Johan Dodson, John Lenny Wilson, and Iah Smith and Darius Cooper.
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Speaker 1: I can't disagree with that. See, Jeff made a good point,
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like with Gosi, Tarus Marsha or invested veterans, you just
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work it out with the agent and hey, listen, we
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got to keep these other guys on the roster because
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we don't because Wilson in Cooper are subject to wars.
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If we cut them, we don't get claimed. Would you
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be doing a wink wink deal? Hey, stay in the area.
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We'll bring you up after four weeks. You know, we'll
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or we'll on game day if we need you. But
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we want you on a practical We want you know.
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You could always work that out now. The one though,
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if you see, I know every Williams has had some
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reps a receiver, but I just to me, I have
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not seen him stand out at all as a.
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Speaker 2: Receiver, and his reps at receiver to your point, I've
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been few and far between. It hasn't really factored in much.
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You don't always want to show everything in a public practice,
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but I mean when you're trying to when the season
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is just a few weeks away and you still haven't
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seen much of it, Yep, I'm not so sure that
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he would be on my fifty three right now. I
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think they have something there in an Ia Smith as
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a returner that forty six yarder. Michael Play talked about
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how Anayas has developed in terms of foot quickness and
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racing to the football and getting vertical and reading his block,
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being a more patient player in other words, That's how
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I interpreted it. And Anaias just has a lot more
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confidence this year compared to your two. I think that
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they want to continue to see that development through.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's healthy. He just i mean, basically had
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a red shirt year. He just could never get over
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that two different foot isshoes. So let's get to tight end.
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I'm fascinated by this thing because Kylon grantson watching him
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on Thursday. He's an f tight end. He means he's offset.
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He's just not big. He's under six too. He's just
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not big enough to play in line because you got
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to protect him. But he's got as much juice as
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Kakata has, but they're different the way that they move.
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And I know, I know you've seen him on special teams.
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You're mister special team's evaluator. What are your thoughts on
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him on special teams?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can on all of that, all those I know,
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and he WoT on. He's on the first team kick
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coverage and then also kick return. But I think what
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makes him a little bit more unique or maybe would
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force the Eagles to maybe roster him, is that he's
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more in the mold of an h back. He's talked
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about repby. He's lined up in the backfield before he's
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lined up out wide. There hasn't been a role that
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he hasn't fulfilled. And more importantly, I think that he
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can really help them on special teams as well. Now,
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the question that I have, I don't know if they
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need to keep three. I don't know if you wouldn't,
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I'm not so sure. If you're the Eagles, you would
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worry about Well, I don't even know if grandson's a
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vested veteran. He is he is, He's vested, yes, right,
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so you could you could feasibly keep someone like Grandson
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end or Bryant, Any J. Jenkins on the practice and
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then elevate like they did last year to great success.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Grandson his one year deals worth one point seventy
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five million that they guaranteed, fully guaranteed at signing one
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million of it, not a ton of money. And with
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Harrison Bryant is just what just charting the Wednesday and
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Thursday's practice Bryant was because they're see Brian Brian and
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grants that are typically they're so different in the way
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that they're used because Bryant could play the wide position
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where Granted can't, but Granted is so much more athletic
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than Harrison Brian. Plus you got the team's value for Grandson.
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It's an interesting discussion. And then there's we don't we
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don't talk about him, but Nick muses on team, Uh
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they gave they only gave twenty five grand to guaranteed.
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And then your guy E. J.
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Speaker 2: Jenkins, Yeah, he's uh, he's in my opinion, he's their
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second best blocking tight end and he has a role
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on special teams. Yeah, if you look at someone like
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Kylan Grantson and Harrison Bryant, you know they're there. They
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would probably be available to be on the practice squad,
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whereas someone like EJ. Jenkins, you know, conceivably has developmental upside.
19:54
He was a collegiate wide receiver and played for three
19:56
different universities, including Saint Francis. So I think that he's
19:59
still tapping into that potential. And you see his size
20:02
at six foot six, two hundred and sixty pounds, he
20:05
can give you something a little bit different, especially as
20:07
a blocker.
20:09
Speaker 1: All right, let's get speak of a blocking Let's get
20:11
to the offensive line before we get to the defense.
20:12
So everybody knows Bretto. Now it's filling it for Landon Dickerson,
20:17
and he would start week one if Landon is not ready.
20:20
To me, I think it's crazy, but I get it.
20:23
He's been here seven years. As a reason he hasn't
20:25
been here all the time seven years with the Cardinals,
20:27
He's had a number of injuries, but Stout loves him.
20:30
Guy's toughest nails, great story development, filling out his body.
20:33
What can you tell us about Bretto?
20:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wrote a story on Bretto about what he
20:38
was providing behind the scenes that a lot of folks
20:40
aren't privy to. He takes a lot of pride in
20:44
upholding the standard that was set to ensure that he's
20:48
upholding that and bringing young players along the way. He
20:51
highlighted Drew Kendall as someone who he noticed right away
20:56
fit right into the culture in terms of professionalism, in
20:59
terms of melody, knowing what he doesn't know and asking questions,
21:03
and and Brett has mastered the technique of Jeff Stoutlin.
21:06
He knows how things are supposed to look, and he
21:09
knows his teammates. He knows those players, and so I
21:12
think there's a lot of continuity when you plug somebody
21:14
like that in whether it's between Jordani Lott and Cam
21:17
Jurgens or he's played all over the line, But in
21:20
this case, I think there's a lot of comfortability there.
21:23
Speaker 1: With him in the lineup. And they would have if
21:25
he starts Week one, they certainly would have the tast
21:28
offensive line in the National FOOTBA League. Brett Toth is
21:30
over sixty six. It's it's insane. I mean, it's it's
21:34
amazing that the leff that this team has so Yeah. Canard,
21:38
I know, has been cross trained at left guard prior,
21:40
has not had any rate. I haven't seen any Have
21:43
you seen any reps at left guard? I didn't see any.
21:45
Speaker 2: Prior No Canard. Since the Dickerson injury, the Eagles have
21:49
been putting him at second team left guard.
21:52
Speaker 1: Did you see Keegan backing up Toth this week at all?
21:57
Speaker 2: Kegan? Did I think he was actually right guard?
22:00
Speaker 3: Oh?
22:00
Speaker 1: Really? Wasn't it left? Yeah?
22:03
Speaker 2: Normally he was a left guard. He was playing right guard,
22:05
and that's where Canard was playing hard.
22:07
Speaker 1: Interesting. Okay, well they're really cross training and what we
22:10
saw earlier this week, Cam Williams number seventy three, get
22:12
a little bit. I saw him on my notes here.
22:14
He got a couple second team reps, but he's a
22:17
major project. Colin Pierce another major project. I'll say this,
22:20
what talking to the Browns, what they really like you
22:22
talk about different looks. They think this is the biggest
22:25
offensive line that they would face, So they like that
22:29
they get to their defense gets to face an offensive
22:32
line this big. They got to show they can get
22:34
off blocks. And that's on your point that you made
22:36
earlier to start to show this is a different look
22:38
that you not in terms of strategy. Just from a
22:41
size quotion is pretty good. Other than that, I think
22:46
Drew Kennell's been a nice story weren't real sure about
22:48
him because from a scouting standpoint, talking to people in
22:50
the league, you're worry about the size that people didn't
22:53
see hm as a guard. But you know what, that's
22:54
Cincinnati game. He was terrific. Where's Drew Kenell right now?
22:59
You're thinking.
23:01
Speaker 2: Watching him from day one to this point where we've
23:05
seen fifteen days of training camp, I see the notable
23:08
development in him. I see him becoming more technically refined,
23:11
and that really is his hallmark. He's a technically sound player,
23:15
not overly athletic, but he's highly intelligent, and you hear
23:19
a different linemen in various interviews speak highly of him.
23:22
I had a chance to interview Drew Kendall earlier in camp.
23:25
I wrote a story about him about his development. I
23:27
thought that that was one of the Eagles' best Day
23:29
three picks, along with Smile Mont, and I think that
23:33
he is right on track in terms of his development.
23:36
Speaker 1: Before we move to defense, just a couple of injury notes.
23:38
No aj Brown this week. Then for Cleveland, these are
23:42
big Martin Evererson, their number two corner out for the season,
23:45
Jok out for the season, Jordan Hicks retired. Although they
23:48
were thinking that was going to happen. The Browns thought
23:50
that all offseason he would he retired, So yeah, you're down.
23:53
Look this matters like when you look at key players
23:55
are not practicing, But of course when it happens, you
23:59
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Speaker 1: All right, Andrew, let's get to the Browns offense versus
24:41
the Eagles defense. But before we start, I want to
24:44
ask you a question. You were at the twenty three.
24:47
I'm pretty certain you were at the twenty twenty three
24:50
join practice correct least some of them. Yes, Ven, Seeing
24:54
Miles Garret up close is a inexperience. One of your
24:57
thoughts about him this week.
25:00
Speaker 2: He's a practice wrecord. We know he's a game wrecord,
25:02
but he's also a practice wrecker. And it seems like
25:05
there were times where he had to let up almost
25:07
Adams so that let the Eagles get off some offensive plays.
25:11
But there was a play that he had on Wednesday
25:14
where he chased Jalen Hurts across the field from the backside,
25:18
forced him out of bounds. There's another play where it
25:20
was a screen pass to Devonte Smith, Davante scoots up
25:24
the left side line. The play wasn't over because Miles
25:27
Garrett was in hot pursuit and tracked them down from
25:30
behind and try to swap the ball out. He's just
25:32
all over the field, one of the best players, and
25:35
probably the best player at his position, and it's not
25:38
often that you see Lane Johnson struggle or have any
25:42
sort of fits. I saw that one on once. You
25:46
and I watched that. He's just a remarkable talent, and
25:50
I think sometimes that's taken for granted, but when you
25:53
see him there and you see what he's able to
25:54
do against the premier tackles. It's pretty incredible, all right.
25:57
Speaker 1: So on Thursday's practice we were staying in the end,
26:00
so it was me, Jeff and John, Richie Fumer Eagle
26:03
and Raider full back and uh we there was this
26:06
one rep where if you're watching on YouTube, so I'm
26:12
gonna use my left hand to show you he took
26:15
a job step left and went right past my lotta.
26:20
John and I looked at each other like, did he
26:22
just do that? It's it's whatever the hell. He is
26:24
six five and two seventy five. And by the way,
26:27
so talk to some people with the browns over there
26:30
is Miles. He started build his body up for the
26:32
last two or three years, but now he looks like
26:34
mister Olympia. But to be this bendy, this loosened the
26:38
hips and this explosive and on your point about he's
26:41
almost toying, nobody could stop him. He put it, he
26:45
destroyed the Eagles two years ago. Here he didn't in
26:47
twenty three, I don't or twenty two, but two years
26:50
ago he did. And this is something else, man, When
26:53
you get to see a greatness and the other great
26:55
performances when Tom Brady was here with New England, when
26:57
he when he was twenty eight for twenty eight in
26:59
the ball hit the ground every pass of the thrown anticipation.
27:02
This Miles Garrett performance was something else. Although I to
27:05
be honest with you, Andrew watching Lane Johnson's It's twenty
27:07
twenty three. Some practice is where you go, holy bleep,
27:10
this is pretty special. But offensive linemen, it's because they're
27:14
not They're not trying to get upfield like Miles Garrett is.
27:18
It's something like, I just I'm in awe of the
27:20
thing that I saw, and I just hope if you're
27:23
the Browns, and I know there would be some Browns
27:25
fans listening, I wish they could get him more help
27:27
on defense because they brought and Joe Tryon, Shayanka, a
27:31
former first round from Tampa who's probably more of a
27:33
third edge. Alex Right, who they like, is in the
27:35
Fine Vers rookie deal, Isaiah Maguire from Eagles, Drew na
27:39
Chuir and kJ Henry, so they just don't have him
27:41
have enough talent to help him around there. But seeing
27:44
him man was pretty darn special on Wednesday and Thursday.
27:48
All right, let's get to it andrew your thoughts. So
27:50
the Browns offense versus Eagles defense. So what I find
27:54
comical when you'll when people say, okay, who won the
27:57
first two days? I don't grade like that. I'll just
28:00
tell you when I think it's Domino, I'll tell you.
28:02
But what do you think about the Eagles defense these
28:04
last days?
28:06
Speaker 2: So on Thursday, folks exclusively on the Eagles defense, and
28:10
I thought, in terms of run defense, they were physical
28:13
and they were attacking the line of scrimmage. There were
28:16
some drops from the Browns, and I thought Joe Flacco
28:19
later in practice had dialed up some some nice throws.
28:22
But this really emphasized what Sidney Brown can do when
28:26
he's in his element. What I mean by that is
28:28
attacking like a heat seeking missile at the line of scrimmage.
28:31
There were a couple of times where he charged in
28:34
there to pop Dylan Sampson. The rookie running back of
28:36
the Cleveland Browns, Jeremiah Trotter Junior, I thought had probably
28:41
the best practice of any Eagles defensive player. He had
28:44
consecutive nice plays and run fits. He showed some awareness
28:48
and athleticism to get to the sideline and to cover
28:50
up Samson on a pass play that was rendered incomplete.
28:53
He was all over the field and Cooper dejen had
28:56
some nice moments as well, playing physical, throwing a shoulder
28:59
in there to running back to your own forward and
29:01
impeding his progress. Now, he did lose out to Jamari
29:05
Thrash on one particular play where it was sort of
29:07
an outside inside route that Flacco put it right on
29:11
his numbers. I'm Brady and Jane lost on that, but
29:14
Cooper also had an interception later in the session.
29:17
Speaker 1: Set Wednesday, their time in Flacco, particularly Judy. Look at
29:21
my notes here, there's something that their timing was off
29:23
and there were a number of drops on Wednesday's practice.
29:25
Then Thursday's practice they had more success, now understand. Something
29:28
to add. Another guy wasn't practicing was Quincon Judkins, their
29:32
second round running back who will be the starter once
29:34
he's reinstated to the roster. So you got your own
29:37
fords are pretty good back up here. Strong You might
29:39
remember him from the Patriots. You mentioned Dylan Sampson, who's
29:43
more of a change up, a smaller back, a fourth
29:45
rounder this year. So they're just not good enough at
29:48
running back with that Judkins, So that vehicles had an
29:50
advantage there. But you know the other thing is with
29:53
the Browns now for years they had one of the
29:54
top three offensive lines. Not anymore. Jack Conklin, it turns
29:58
thirty two soon. He's had a ton of injuries in
30:01
his career. Dwan Jones is really playing out of position.
30:04
He should be a right tackle, not a left tackle.
30:05
He's a He's enormous. He's about six to eight plus.
30:09
Speaker 2: He walked right past me this morning. I was like, Wow,
30:11
there he is, Dewan Jones in the huge Yeah.
30:15
Speaker 1: Yeah. Joe Patonio who won't be a Hall of Fame
30:17
reason what I call the almost Hall of Fameless. But
30:19
he's he decided not to retires, gonna play this season.
30:22
Ethan Posk coming from Seattle, why Teller has been a
30:25
great story development coming over from a trade with Buffalo.
30:27
But they're not They're not good enough to tackle spots.
30:29
But I'll say this, the Eagles Edges Andrews. See if
30:34
you agree with me. I thought over Wednesday and Thursday,
30:39
they kind of all flashed and then we'll get to
30:41
the the the front. But Ojelari on Wednesday, you see
30:46
that length man josh Usha, he could he could still
30:50
get up field. We he's clearly head of Ojelari. After
30:54
the first three days of camp it was Ojeli. Now
30:56
it's been Uche. But give me give me your thoughts.
30:59
You said fifty practices. You've seen Olari and Ouche, Patrick Johnson,
31:03
Paul Ryland, Obo Conker another ex Cleveland Brown. Give me
31:06
a thought to those guys.
31:08
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's been a largely quiet camp for as
31:12
he's o Jealari. I went into it with the expectation
31:14
that he was going to be the Eagles' most impactful
31:17
for each A edition. I thought that was going to
31:18
manifest early. It hasn't yet, but he's had moments. Josh Uche, though,
31:23
is clearly the number three edge rusher right now in
31:26
my estimation, based on how they deploy him and based
31:30
on production. He's getting into the backfield. He picked up
31:32
a sack today. I believe it was on Joe Flacco,
31:35
might have been Dylan Gabriel, but he I should say
31:38
it was. It was Thursday that it happened. But he
31:42
gets into the backfield so quickly that you know, sometimes
31:46
you have to remind yourself this is the player who
31:49
in twenty twenty two had eleven and a half sacks.
31:51
Obviously the last two years hasn't done much of anything.
31:54
He can bind for five over that span, but then
31:57
you look a little bit further down in the pecking
31:59
Guarner and uh ogbo Oka. Rockwell has had some nice moments.
32:04
I thought the two joint practices against his former team,
32:07
he had some first team reps. So it seems like
32:11
the Eagles are trying to better assess what they have
32:14
in terms of their depth players. And and all three
32:17
of them had some first team reps Thursday, and I
32:19
think's had some nice moments. He's sort of flying under
32:22
the radar a little bit. I know he's purely he's
32:24
purely a pass rusher, and I think that he's had
32:28
some some moments in one on ones and also in
32:30
team periods.
32:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, Obo is his nickname, by the way, so the
32:34
d lineman. I am blown away by Ojomo's first step quickness.
32:39
To see It's one thing to watch it like if
32:41
you're at home on TV, but to see it on
32:42
the field up close with five feet in front of me.
32:46
He's another guy. Like the word that Jeff and I
32:49
got from scouting standpoint too smart fuddy knew everything. Would
32:56
he be coachable? The answer is yes, yes, and yes.
32:59
Once again, the scouting people around the National Football League,
33:03
they got bad information like this kid was a if
33:06
you we'll get to what your thoughts have been for
33:09
you watch him now for three years. But Andrew, I
33:11
look at this guy, I go, how to bleep? Are
33:14
you gonna let this guy drop the seventh round and
33:16
give me your thoughts for the last three years and
33:18
what you've seen also over the fifteen practice of this guy.
33:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, the only thing I can think of. And this
33:22
doesn't even make sense because you could still you find
33:25
talent that sort of disputsed this, but maybe just because
33:28
he was undersized. Yeah, but he has long arms, he's physical,
33:31
he's quick, he uses leverage to his advantage. Landon Dickerson
33:35
said that he's really awkward to block, and he's meant
33:37
that the nicest way possible because of his unique dimensions.
33:41
And he's also powerful despite being about two ninety to
33:44
two ninety five. In fact that I spoke to Joe
33:47
Botonio after practice and asked him about Borro Jomo and
33:51
he was impressed with him. He said he went up
33:53
against him a bunch talked about how powerful he is
33:56
and how smart he is, and so I think that
33:59
is a com theme when you go back to what
34:01
Landon Dickerson said about him, what Dane Johnson said about him,
34:05
what Tyler Steen has said about him. This is a
34:07
player who has been a disruptive force really over the
34:10
last two summers, and there isn't a practice or a
34:13
series that he's not making an impact one way or another.
34:16
Speaker 1: It's a great story of development. Kudos to Howie Roseman
34:19
for drafting him. Whoever their area scout is, it's probably
34:22
cam Bradfield because that's the Texas area and just everyone
34:26
who's involved in this this draft pick. I mean, this
34:29
guy he's got. I mean, there's there's something here, but
34:32
you nailed it with the size. That's going to be
34:34
the issue once we get into the regular season is
34:37
how he holds up physically, because let's face it, I
34:41
know Gabe hol has done a good job. Now thankfully
34:43
the shoulder ergry turn up be very minor, but they
34:46
just don't have any experience behind o Joemo, Davis and Carter,
34:50
and they need these guys to hold up because they
34:52
don't have the depth. Now that Thomas Booker was traded
34:54
so we'll see how that shakes out. Let Let's get
34:57
to the inside backer group quickly. Here so mentioned Trotter,
35:01
you thought had a great practice, one of the great
35:02
practices this week. We know Dean won't be back till
35:04
some time after the season starts, hopefully sooner rather than later.
35:07
But that's a bad injury to Teller Tendon. But give
35:10
me your thoughts on Jihad Campbell, trot you and and
35:13
this Dallas Gamp by the way, and smile Mond. Then
35:16
they got pretty good length. What do you what are
35:17
your thoughts of these?
35:18
Speaker 2: And Lance Dixon too rookie rookie for agent from Toledo. Yeah,
35:23
I think as a whole, and I don't think this
35:25
is hyperbole, Adam. He can be hard pressed to identify
35:29
an Eagles linebacking that is this well rounded, this equipped
35:32
to be viable for the foreseeable future. They have a
35:37
collection of players with unique skill sets. I talked about Trotter.
35:40
He's the you know, the play recognition, the instincts, the
35:43
reactive type of player. Campbell is the physical enforcer who
35:48
can He's sort of the new age NFL linebacker. And
35:51
when it all comes together and he's able to to
35:53
really tap into his coverage acumen. I mean he's he's
35:57
gonna be him and Zach Bond together as a tandem.
35:59
I think they're going to play off each other really well.
36:02
He's also a Salid Blitzer and then smile Mind and Junior.
36:06
He's undersize, but he's he plays bigger than his size.
36:09
He's physical and he's rangy. He's made some really nice
36:12
plays in coverage. And you talked about Dallas Gand and
36:15
Lance Dixon and some of those other players that they're
36:20
they're too deep right now, they might not even be
36:22
able to I mean they look at the practice squad
36:24
for some of them.
36:25
Speaker 1: Yeah. In fact, I would say, to add to your point,
36:29
it's turned out to be better than I thought. Now
36:31
I could see why the Eagles opted against unless someone
36:33
else got hurt to sign another player, because you still
36:37
have Bond. Now he's back, trot Junior Campbell's three games
36:41
four minus five, six and six. So you have your
36:43
three teams. So and obviously there's no reason Bond would
36:47
play this week, but you're gonna get a better look
36:50
at Campbell and Trotter. I'm most like in this preseason game,
36:54
Mind and Junior know what him walking by me on Thursday.
36:58
He looks taller than six to two quarter, which is
37:00
his official size on the combine, but I know he's thinner.
37:04
This is good look, this is a good job of scouting.
37:06
They found Gant who looks like he's got a chance.
37:08
And obviously they know that school because that's Syria and
37:11
his guy, Jason Kannell's the head coach at Tillia, so
37:13
he knows him. But Lance Dixon I like him by
37:19
the way.
37:19
Speaker 2: He's nice plays, really nice athletic plays in space, but
37:23
also as a blitzer. He's had some he's had some
37:26
plays where he's gotten through the line of scrimge, gotten
37:28
his hand up there and even some sacks or some
37:30
would be sacks.
37:32
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny you got two line packers from Toledo.
37:34
Fancy that, Like, who would have believed that? That's hard
37:36
to believe. But Max and hook wher. We'll talk about
37:40
the secondary as we speak here, So moving on Andrew. Lastly,
37:45
you mentioned Sidney Brown and what he does for the defense,
37:48
but the big issue is him for uncoverage. That's what
37:49
Drew mccuba comes in. But mccooba's behind because he missed
37:53
over a week, thankfully shoulder injuries minor. Brown's clearly ahead
37:57
of him, you know. And when they go with the
38:00
base defense, we know that Degenius a safety next to Mitchell,
38:05
I mean, excuse mean next to blanket ship.
38:07
Speaker 2: Blanketship.
38:08
Speaker 1: Right when they go to Nickel, it's Brown over mccoopa.
38:11
We gotta give mccoopa time here. I'm not we're not
38:13
writing anything. So this one is clearly open. This is fluid,
38:16
but Brown's clearly ahead of him. Where do you think
38:18
this thing's going.
38:21
Speaker 2: It's interesting because Sidney Brown has taken obviously the lion's
38:24
share of the snaps opposite Reed blanket Ship. Mccooba's making
38:27
up for lost time. He's working in, he's mixing in
38:29
with the first team, and I think, well, he's gonna
38:32
make his preseason debut on Saturday. Then you could start
38:35
to build off of that. And I do expect f
38:37
for that game that you'll see him get a little
38:40
bit more first team opportunities. Look based on his skill set,
38:44
the versatility, the ball skills, the football intellect. That's a
38:48
tailor made vic Fanagi of safety. Yes, he has a
38:51
smaller body type and he throws his body around and
38:54
he's physical, so sometimes you may be worried about whether
38:57
they can withstand the rigors of a full slate of game.
39:00
But Sidney Brown as a post player is going to
39:04
really have to hope, He's gonna have to He's gonna
39:06
have to showcase his coverage ability or his ability to
39:09
play in space and process things in order to really
39:12
cement his status as a starter. In my opinion, Otherwise,
39:15
I could see him as a situationally based player because today,
39:19
or I should say on Thursday, was a carbon copy
39:22
that way that practice rolled out. That that's where he shines,
39:25
coming downhill, being a heat seeking missile, being physical and
39:28
craving contact in the way that he does. But I
39:31
think mccoba has has the cover jacumen and the football
39:35
intellect that blend that that should allow him to see
39:38
the field sooner than later.
39:40
Speaker 1: And remember, mccouba could play slot. They played I recall correctly.
39:45
I thought they saw him played a little bit of
39:47
dime and mccooba was playing inside. So yeah, we know
39:50
you can do that. And remember when you're drafting the
39:52
first two rounds as a start a round. So if
39:54
mccooba's ready, you're going to start. Whether it's weak one, five, nine,
39:57
couldn't tell you. So what happened, Uh when Cooper de
40:01
Gene was behind Vick is old school. You're not playing
40:04
until he thinks you're ready, So they're suck gonna throw
40:06
you in there until you're ready. But the thing the
40:09
development Thursday kind of surprised me. We know that it's
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not been a good go for Ringo and training camp,
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but Andrew kind of outline what you saw from the
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rotation at corner opposite Mitchell. I was kind of like,
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what go ahead?
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Speaker 2: So on Thursday it was Adri Jackson who ruled out
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with the first team and he was opposite Quinnon Mitchell.
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They had Cooper Regene at nickel. Of course, the second
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team was comprised of Keeley, Ringo, Jacory and Bennett. There
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was Eli Rix who was working in as well on
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the second and mac McWilliams too. Mac McWilliams, for three
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practices in a row, has been working on the outside.
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Nicko doesn't offer hollow praise for the sake of doing so.
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He's he's you know, offered a ringing endorsement of sorts
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to mac McWilliams at multiple multiple occasions, and.
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Speaker 1: Now I would also add when I was watching them,
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I saw Bennett. You could correct me if I'm wrong,
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but I saw Bennett come in first with the when
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he was rotating in before Ringo, Yeah, I think that's correct.
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I'm like, okay, I don't think so. Yeah, I don't
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make a lot out of one. And I know they
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have to. Someone's got to come out. Someone's got to
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be loose some snaps to Bennett because they got to
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know about Bennett. They're on a fast track with him.
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Speaker 2: This game.
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Speaker 1: Tomorrow night or tomorrow afternoon at one o'clock, we'll give
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us some more answers. But Ringo, this is a heightweight,
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speed draft pick. He has to be better. Every once
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in a while you go wow, wow, look that length
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showed up. But Andrew, more too often we've seen the
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last two years, there's a there's a mental error. He's
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just not there. He makes a mistake. I just don't
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know what he could be. I have what do you
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what can he be?
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Speaker 2: Andrew at this point, So the first two corners with
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the second unit that I observed at it was Keithey,
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Ringo and Mac McWilliams. And then I saw Jacory and
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Bennett work in and Eli Rix's work in, and then
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jaw Cory and Bennett got some first team reps later
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on Thursday session. But for Kilee Ringo, to your point,
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it hasn't come together just yet. This is three years now,
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he's been here, two years of working with Vic Fango
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and Christian Parker, the great Eagles defensive backs coach. When
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I look at Ringo, it's never been about the athleticism.
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It's about what's between the years and being able to
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be consistent and the technical aspect of the position being
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fundamentally sound. He struggles to locate the football and he
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also struggles in transition, but then there's other plays like
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you said, where you see that the length and the
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physicality show up when he's making plays on the football.
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So you just need to see more consistency there with him.
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But I think the Eagles are still trying to see
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what they have in him and give him those opportunities
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because he does need reps. People don't remember, or maybe
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don't aren't aware, but he's played three hundred and eleven
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defensive snaps in his career. Eli Rix has played three
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hundred and fifteen. Eli Rix has played more defense.
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Speaker 1: That gives you all you need to know there, and
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Eli works. We don't talk about him enough. He's been
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I'll tell you what. He's been a nice story that
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they haven't buried in the summer like they did last year.
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The staff clearly didn't like him last year because as
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soon as they got in there, they demoted him. He's
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worked his way back way up and it's good for him.
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We know he could play special teams where he could
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be a key guy. That's going to be another one
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Andrew on especially Saturday tomorrow before we get out of here.
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Are there any players you're really looking forward to seeing,
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you know what? Like I have mine, I have like
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Darius Cooper. Of course again, I want to see Brett Toe.
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I assume Brett Toe will start. He needs their starters reps.
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Remember last year the only start on offense to play
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was Mackay Beckton because they wanted to make sure he
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could handle it. But oh, Montreal Johnson. By the way,
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Montreal Johnson got work Thursday. If they clear him, yeah
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to play. I like to see him. But give me
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some couple guys that you're looking forward to seeing either
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side of the ball.
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Speaker 2: Well, aside from Darius Cooper and Brett Toth. I would
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say I want to see Montreal Johnson Junior, who flashed
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earlier in camp before he had the hamstring injury that
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sidelined him for a while. Then on the defensive side,
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I want to see safety Andre Sam. Andre Sam is
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making an impact on special teams. He flashed in the
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preseason game. He's speisty, he throws his body around, and
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I think that he's really starting to come on a
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little bit. It's been quiet, but if you pay attention,
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he's been coming on a little bit. And then Eli Rix,
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because I think Eli Rix has had a consistent training
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camp making plays in the football. You see the instincts there.
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He's had a more consistent camp than than some of
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the other some other corners. So I want to see
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if he's able to kind of continue that momentum moving forward.
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Speaker 1: Oh there you have it. The momentum will be in
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this game. Who's going to flash, who's going to come through,
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and who's not. This is a big game. This is
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the preseason game number two for the Eagles. And for
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