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TKS TAKEOVER! The Future of America and the Role of Innovation in Shaping it · That KEVIN Show

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  Speaker 6: Welcome everyone to that Kevin Show. Yes, that is a
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  Speaker 6: different voice than Kevin McCullough. My name is Patrise on
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  Speaker 6: WUKA and I'm a regular guest here on this show.
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  Speaker 6: But today Kevin allowed me to sit in his chair,
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  Speaker 6: and you're going to stay with me for the next
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  Speaker 6: couple of hours as we wind through some really important
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  Speaker 6: haveline topics but also the relevancy to your life. So
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  Speaker 6: who am I Well, as I mentioned, my name is Patrice.
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  Speaker 6: I am the vice president for economic Policy at the
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  Speaker 6: Independent Women.
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  Speaker 2: Our organization is great friends.
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  Speaker 6: With this show, you see a lot of our other
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  Speaker 6: great scholars who come on to talk about some different issues,
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  Speaker 6: you know. But I'm more than just my title. I
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  Speaker 6: am a woman of faith number one. I am a
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  Speaker 6: wife number two, and I'm a mother number three. You know,
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  Speaker 6: I proudly call myself an American. I'm a naturalized citizen,
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  Speaker 6: you know. And I came to this country forty one
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  Speaker 6: years ago, I believe it is, from a small British
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  Speaker 6: island in the Caribbean.
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  Speaker 2: And you know we did. We weren't fleeing poverty.
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  Speaker 6: We weren't fleeing you know, violence or natural disaster. My
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  Speaker 6: parents were just looking to provide opportunity for their kids.
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  Speaker 6: And you know, coming from a simple middle class family,
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  Speaker 6: they traded everything to come to this country and start
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  Speaker 6: over from nothing with nothing virtually, you know, but to
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  Speaker 6: this day, they say that it was always worth it
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  Speaker 6: because America is the greatest place on this planet. And
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  Speaker 6: having come from you know, a really tropical, beautiful island,
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  Speaker 6: leaving everything behind to start over in you know, a
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  Speaker 6: poverty stricken neighborhood. And to this day though my parents
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  Speaker 6: still hold and they maintained. My parents instilled in me
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  Speaker 6: valleys that have made America great. Perseverance, personal responsibility, you know,
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  Speaker 6: good work, ethic, all grounded in your faith, in your
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  Speaker 6: belief and trust in God, you know, and really looking
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  Speaker 6: at the opportunity that's there and making the most of it.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, I've been blessed.
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  Speaker 6: My life has been blessed, and we've seen some amazing things.
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  Speaker 6: And you know what, my what we're able to my
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  Speaker 6: husband and I can give to our sons. We have
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  Speaker 6: three boys, all in elementary school and now when entering
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  Speaker 6: high school. But they're going to have a life that
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  Speaker 6: we did not have when we were growing up. They're
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  Speaker 6: going to experience challenges that we didn't have. Sure, but
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  Speaker 6: they won't experience what my parents had to do. You
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  Speaker 6: had to go through to come to this country. And
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  Speaker 6: that is the promise of America book. It is that generationally,
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  Speaker 6: the next generation does better than the previous one. That's
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  Speaker 6: what we all want. We want our kids and our
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  Speaker 6: grandkids to do better. And that's why I want to
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  Speaker 6: anchor our first hour together today in which is about opportunity.
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  Speaker 2: About where we are in.
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  Speaker 6: The economy and in our financial situations, but also where
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  Speaker 6: do we want to go and how do we get there,
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  Speaker 6: you know, And frankly, we've got two different paths to
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  Speaker 6: get there. As a nation right now, we believe in
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  Speaker 6: free enterprise. We believe in mobility, you know. We believe
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  Speaker 6: that you can have your home, have a white picket
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  Speaker 6: fence and your two three children. You could start a business,
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  Speaker 6: you know, and see that business grow and thrive. You
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  Speaker 6: could start a business base not just on your what
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  Speaker 6: you like to do or what you're skilled at, but
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  Speaker 6: also instilling values in your employees. I think about Chick
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  Speaker 6: fil A, for example. They take Sundays off. Every Chick
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  Speaker 6: fil A is closed on a Sunday, Yet they are
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  Speaker 6: the leading company when it comes to generating income.
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  Speaker 2: That tells you something.
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  Speaker 6: Only in America, folks, Only in America, and we are
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  Speaker 6: on the precipice of one of the biggest wealth transfers
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  Speaker 6: in history, in American history, at least, because you've got
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  Speaker 6: so many retiring baby boomers who are done, they are
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  Speaker 6: ready to retire, leave the businesses they've built. There's going
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  Speaker 6: to be a wealth transfer of just the assets. We're
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  Speaker 6: looking at over one hundred and twenty trillion dollars in assets, folks,
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  Speaker 6: I said t trillion dollars in assets. These are going
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  Speaker 6: to be passed from the Baby Boomers and the silent
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  Speaker 6: generation to my generation.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a millennial.
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  Speaker 6: I'm in my early early to almost mid forties, now
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  Speaker 6: passed on to the Generation X, who are a little
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  Speaker 6: bit older than me, and then passed on to the
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  Speaker 6: Generation Z, who'd be a little bit younger.
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  Speaker 2: What are we going to pass on?
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  Speaker 6: Though we're passing on wealth, we're going to be passing
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  Speaker 6: on businesses as people retire, sell their business, sell their
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  Speaker 6: client list. I mean that's a massive wealth transfer. But
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  Speaker 6: are we also transferring the principles, the values, the ethics,
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  Speaker 6: the morals, the can do spirit that has allowed us
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  Speaker 6: to you know, you know, so they talk about bootstraps,
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  Speaker 6: but I'll talk about growing up in the hood, in
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  Speaker 6: the ghetto in Boston and my parents that we lived
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  Speaker 6: in the ghetto. We did not have the ghetto mentality,
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  Speaker 6: and they passed on that you can do anything.
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  Speaker 2: Well.
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  Speaker 6: That's part of that generational transfer that we're going to
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  Speaker 6: see in the next few years and in the next
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  Speaker 6: decades to come. And I want us as nation to
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  Speaker 6: not just pass on a good mindset of faith in God,
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  Speaker 6: on a wealth asset, homes, properties, businesses. We also have
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  Speaker 6: to pass on the free enterprise system that makes it happen.
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  Speaker 6: And it's so important that we do it because we
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  Speaker 6: can either pass on free enterprise or we can pass
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  Speaker 6: on socialism and government ownership of everything. Two pass folks,
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  Speaker 6: You and I know it. And that's what we're fighting against.
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  Speaker 6: That's what we're up against Europe. That's what they have
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  Speaker 6: government ownership of most of the industries. If you even
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  Speaker 6: look at the number of businesses that are massive businesses,
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  Speaker 6: big businesses in Europe, most of them we're not founded
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  Speaker 6: within the past fifty years. When you look at America though,
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  Speaker 6: most of the top earning businesses in this country, you
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  Speaker 6: think of your metas, your Googles, your Walmarts, they are
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  Speaker 6: young country.
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  Speaker 2: They are young businesses.
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  Speaker 6: Why because somebody had an idea took it to the
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  Speaker 6: marketplace grew it and generated value, jobs, opportunity, social societal
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  Speaker 6: benefits for everyone. That doesn't happen in Europe, but it
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  Speaker 6: happens here. And unfortunately, we have a younger generation who
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  Speaker 6: have latched on to thinking that the European model is
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  Speaker 6: somehow what's good. That communism that's they're called. They're dressing
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  Speaker 6: it up as democratic socialism.
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  Speaker 2: Folks.
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  Speaker 6: This is Patresa and Wokam in for Kevin McCullough today.
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  Speaker 6: But I'm talking about the democratic socialism that we are
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  Speaker 6: seeing in New York City.
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  Speaker 2: With Mayor Zorra Mandami.
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  Speaker 6: We're seeing it pop up in a lot of elections
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  Speaker 6: with they're dressing up pretty much the opposite of what
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  Speaker 6: has created opportunity, What has created freedom is foundationally biblically
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  Speaker 6: based belief that the work of your hands, you put
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  Speaker 6: it to the soil, you produce something, you steward the resources,
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  Speaker 6: and then you bless other people through your giving, through
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  Speaker 6: your philanthropy, philanthropy through your generosity that is at risk.
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  Speaker 6: That is not what the democratic socialists want. They want
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  Speaker 6: the opposite, and that is the fight that we're up against.
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  Speaker 6: We're up against preserving entrepreneurship and free enterprise. We're up
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  Speaker 6: against preserving opportunity for people who were born in this
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  Speaker 6: country for generations or who just landed.
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  Speaker 2: Here legally, folks legally.
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  Speaker 6: But who just landed here all looking for a better
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  Speaker 6: life and for mobility for the next generation. So we're
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  Speaker 6: going to talk today about all of these things and
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  Speaker 6: how the upcoming elections are really at the center of that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Patrisa and Luca and for Kevin McCullough, stay.
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  Speaker 3: With us here.
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  Speaker 5: He is from New York that Kevin McCullough.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to.
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  Speaker 6: Back Kevin Show. I'm Paterreesa and Wuka in for Kevin today.
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  Speaker 6: So we have started talking about what's going on in Washington.
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  Speaker 6: We're one hundred days from the midterms, and I'm excited
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  Speaker 6: to have with us one of those inside reporter voices
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  Speaker 6: that we can trust.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, this is Reagan Reeves. Reagan is one
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  Speaker 2: of the fellows.
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  Speaker 6: And independent women with us, but really her day job
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  Speaker 6: is as the White House correspondent for the Daily Caller.
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  Speaker 6: Reagan previously served as an education reporter at the Daily
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  Speaker 6: Caller News Foundation. She is a hills Grad alumna, Hillsdale
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  Speaker 6: College alumna, and she has a degree in rhetoric and
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  Speaker 6: public address as well as journalism, so she's well educated.
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  Speaker 2: She's got the.
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  Speaker 6: Right philosophical philosophy and moral compass. And I know that
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  Speaker 6: she is an excellent reporter having followed her on x
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  Speaker 6: at Reagan Reese underscore. Reagan, welcome to the show. Thanks
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  Speaker 6: for having me absolutely well. Like I said, this is
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  Speaker 6: an interesting time here. We're about one hundred days out
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  Speaker 6: from the midterms. But yesterday President Trump was in Michigan.
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  Speaker 6: As I understand, you are part of the press pool,
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  Speaker 6: tell us about the event yesterday.
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  Speaker 7: So I was actually not at the event yesterday, but
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  Speaker 7: always covering what the President is doing when he goes
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  Speaker 7: out on the road. And it's actually interesting. You're going
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  Speaker 7: to see the president increase his domestic travel as we
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  Speaker 7: get closer and closer to Labor Day. He is the
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  Speaker 7: chief spokesperson for the twenty twenty six midterms, and the
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  Speaker 7: goal for the administration for Republicans is to make it
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  Speaker 7: feel like President Trump is on the ballot. They want
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  Speaker 7: to motivate the President's voters, to get them to the polls,
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  Speaker 7: to make it seem like they're voting for President Trump
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  Speaker 7: when they go and fill out their valot and they
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  Speaker 7: vote for those Republicans. That's kind of this issue, that's
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  Speaker 7: this roadblock that the GP is facing. What you've seen
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  Speaker 7: previously before President Trump got on the campaign trail was
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  Speaker 7: Vice President Jadie Vance hitting the campaign trail. He's done
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  Speaker 7: quite a few stops, and alongside him has been members
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  Speaker 7: of the cabinet. They have gone across the country, I
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  Speaker 7: think more than people have realized, visiting states dozens of
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  Speaker 7: times to make the pitch and competitive races for Republicans.
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  Speaker 7: And so you know, now that the president is on
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  Speaker 7: the campaign triol, going to places like Michigan, I think
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  Speaker 7: you're going to see more mid term focus messaging like
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  Speaker 7: you saw yesterday.
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  Speaker 6: We're speaking with Reagan Reese from the Daily Caller. She's
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  Speaker 6: part of the White House correspondent crew there. You know,
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  Speaker 6: talk to us about what Congress still has to do.
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  Speaker 6: We know that the House is out on August recess.
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  Speaker 6: We know that the Senate is still in and there
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  Speaker 6: are some pretty big agenda items, particularly when it comes
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  Speaker 6: to election integri notably the Save Act. You got to
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  Speaker 6: ask a question of the Press Secretary just a couple
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  Speaker 6: of days ago.
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  Speaker 2: And it kind of touched off a little bit of a.
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  Speaker 6: Firestorm around how is the relationship between the Senate Majority
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  Speaker 6: Leader John fun and President Trump? Because I think President
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  Speaker 6: Trump maybe does he view John Fun as the roadblock
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  Speaker 6: to getting the Save America Act passed.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, there are two important things that the President wants
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  Speaker 7: to see passed. The Save America Act and he wants
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  Speaker 7: the fillbuster eliminated. And I previously asked the President if
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  Speaker 7: he was disappointed in John Fun That was a couple
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  Speaker 7: months ago, and the President said yes, but then tensions
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  Speaker 7: kind of seemed to subside. Didn't really hear anything more
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  Speaker 7: about it. But the President, when visiting Georgia last week,
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  Speaker 7: urged all of his supporters to call Senator Fuon and
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  Speaker 7: tell him to get the Save America Act passed. And
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  Speaker 7: so I decided it was time to ask Caroline Levitt,
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  Speaker 7: is President Trump's patients running out with speaker or with
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  Speaker 7: Leader Fuon? And she said, yes it is, And like
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  Speaker 7: you said, it's created this firestorm. Within minutes, there are
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  Speaker 7: reporters on Capitol Hill getting Leader of Foon's reaction. He
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  Speaker 7: was snapping back saying, maybe Caroline should go get the votes.
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  Speaker 7: President Trump has now put out truth socials saying he
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  Speaker 7: doesn't want the Senate to go on August recess until
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  Speaker 7: the Save America Act is passed and the philbuster is eliminated.
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  Speaker 7: And just to speak about how different I think this
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  Speaker 7: has been since compared to pass tensions. I'd heard from
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  Speaker 7: a source who is close to the President's thinking tell
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  Speaker 7: me that the President really likes Leader Foon, he knows
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  Speaker 7: that the members like Leader Foon, and the President he's
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  Speaker 7: been more upset with those four or five senators who
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  Speaker 7: refuse to get on board with the Save America Act
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  Speaker 7: and refuse to get on board with eliminating filibuster. But
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  Speaker 7: it seems to be kind of like this elephant in
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  Speaker 7: the room or this secret in Washington, d C. This
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  Speaker 7: well known secret that the Save America Act and eliminating
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  Speaker 7: the Philbuster neither have the votes and will never have
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  Speaker 7: the votes. And uh so they're just spinning in circles.
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  Speaker 7: And from people on the Hill, they really feel like
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  Speaker 7: the President is just trying to make their life miserable
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  Speaker 7: because they won't do these two things for him.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, it's it's a challenge, right because election integrity
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  Speaker 6: is important, and we've seen elements of the Save America
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  Speaker 6: Act incorporated into the House Past Budget Reconciliation.
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  Speaker 2: Bill, and so we'll see where that goes.
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  Speaker 6: But you know, while I have you, I think it
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  Speaker 6: would be great for you to provide some insight on
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  Speaker 6: the nuts and bolts or kind of the unique experience
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  Speaker 6: of traveling as being part of the White House as
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  Speaker 6: a White House correspondent. I mean, you get to be
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  Speaker 6: on the in the Oval office, you know, you get
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  Speaker 6: to be on the lawn as the President is taking
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  Speaker 6: in prompting questions, or even in Air Force one.
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  Speaker 2: What is what?
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  Speaker 6: What what's the most surprising aspect of having that kind
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  Speaker 6: of access. What's the most interesting thing that people would
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  Speaker 6: would never guess about that experience?
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  Speaker 2: Oh this is a great question.
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  Speaker 8: Hm.
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  Speaker 7: Well, first I'll say I was out of wedding recently.
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  Speaker 7: I played softball in college and I ran into my
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  Speaker 7: college coach and he was like, you make this look
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  Speaker 7: like it's all fun, but you're under a lot of pressure,
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  Speaker 7: aren't you. And I was like, yes, it is very stressful.
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  Speaker 7: And I think when I first started on the White
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  Speaker 7: House beat, I was just in complete awe at being
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  Speaker 7: at the White House, seeing the President. I covered Biden
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  Speaker 7: for a year and even just seeing Biden and Crea
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  Speaker 7: jump here and Kamala Harris. That was amazing to me.
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  Speaker 7: Now I see President Trump so off them because he's
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  Speaker 7: so accessible that some of that's worn off a little bit,
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  Speaker 7: and you kind of you get into game time mode,
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  Speaker 7: you know, you snap in and you're like, oh, hey,
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  Speaker 7: I got to kind of throw some elbows here to
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  Speaker 7: get in and get past people and try to get
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  Speaker 7: that best position. And so I guess the most surprising
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  Speaker 7: thing and I know is that this job is a
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  Speaker 7: bit physical. Sometimes you're waiting in line for a couple
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  Speaker 7: of hours to try to get a better spot, and
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  Speaker 7: the press briefing or in the Oval office or at
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  Speaker 7: the Rose Garden sometimes it's in the sun. And then
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  Speaker 7: also you got to be a little pushy.
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  Speaker 2: And it also pays.
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  Speaker 7: To know the people in the room, because if the
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  Speaker 7: people in the room like you and notice that you
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  Speaker 7: are in a bad spot in the room, they will
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  Speaker 7: move around for you. And so I've had Caroline Leavitt
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  Speaker 7: move me into a better position before to make sure
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  Speaker 7: that the President could see me, or have had moments
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  Speaker 7: where the President has maybe not seen me, And I've
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  Speaker 7: had the President's aides come up behind me to kind
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  Speaker 7: of get the President's attention to show him, oh, there's
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  Speaker 7: another reporter over on the side of the room. So
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  Speaker 7: there's all these tips and tricks and things that are
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  Speaker 7: going on behind the scenes. And I actually write about
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  Speaker 7: all of this for the Daily Caller sub stack. It's
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  Speaker 7: called State of the Day. I released like a weekly
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  Speaker 7: column every Friday, just sharing all these moments about how
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  Speaker 7: I pass along to the Vice President what I'm going
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  Speaker 7: to be wearing in the briefing so he could spot
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  Speaker 7: me in the crowd, and all those little moments about
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  Speaker 7: what that's like.
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  Speaker 2: I love it.
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  Speaker 6: I've had the opportunity of visiting the press the briefing rooms,
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  Speaker 6: and it is smaller than you would imagine, so when
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  Speaker 6: it's crowded with people, I can imagine how tight it is.
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  Speaker 6: But you know, I really appreciate you spending some time
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  Speaker 6: with us today.
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  Speaker 2: Reagan. We are going to be following.
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  Speaker 6: You because you have the beat, you have the ear,
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  Speaker 6: you have the access. Folks definitely go to X She's
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  Speaker 6: at Reagan Reeste. Reagan spelt like Ronald Reagan, our ea
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  Speaker 6: g A N Reese underscore and then that sounds like
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  Speaker 6: a great Daily Caller sub stack. So you know in
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  Speaker 6: our final moments together, you know, what are you expecting
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  Speaker 6: to see over the next maybe week or two out of.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: The White House? Anything big, anything that's that's going to
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: be happening that we should you know, be on alert for.
• 18:46
  Speaker 7: Well, I'll say first that it's hard when I get
• 18:48
  Speaker 7: asked these types of questions because we are given a
• 18:51
  Speaker 7: schedule that's off the record in advance, so we kind
• 18:54
  Speaker 7: of know what to expect with the President. I think
• 18:58
  Speaker 7: it's going to be maybe a slower week. Today is
• 19:01
  Speaker 7: the big day. There's this Lensky meeting in the Oblothie,
• 19:04
  Speaker 7: There's a meeting with Netyahu and the obl Office, and
• 19:07
  Speaker 7: then the President is going over to the National Cathedral
• 19:10
  Speaker 7: for Senator Lendsy Graham's funeral. And so today is the
• 19:13
  Speaker 7: busiest day, I'll say, on the president schedule this week.
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  Speaker 6: All right, Well, I hope Kevin can have you back
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: to talk about all of those things.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: It's so much going on.
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: But folks, as I said, follow Reagan Reese on X
• 19:26
  Speaker 6: Read the Substack and her work at The Daily Caller.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: Reagan, thanks so much for spending a few moments with
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: us and catching us up on what's going on at
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: the White House.
• 19:34
  Speaker 7: Yeah, thanks for having me, Thank you so much.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Reagan Reese. Folks can follow Reagan Reese at The Daily Caller.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Also follow her on x at Reagan Reese Underscore.
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  Speaker 6: All right, I'm Patrisa and Luka and for Kevin mccallaugh
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: on that Kevin Show.
• 20:46
  Speaker 9: Let's tack around for more of than Cavin next here
• 21:07
  Speaker 9: he is from New York.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: I'm that.
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: Kevin McCollough and miss Patresa on Luca. I'm in on
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: that Kevin Show. I'm in for Kevin today. I am
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: taken over, just at least for today, and I'm back
• 21:25
  Speaker 6: with you guys.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: Here.
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: I've got one of my great I would call her
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: a colleague. We know each other in lots of different circles,
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: but you've probably seen some of her work and you've
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: probably seen her on television before as a really astute commentator.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: She is Karine Hajar.
• 21:42
  Speaker 6: She's an opinion journalist for the Washington Post opinion section. Yes,
• 21:47
  Speaker 6: I said the Washington Post, but before joining the Post,
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: she was actually a columnist and on the editorial board
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: at the Boston Globe, my old hometown newspaper. I've been
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: connected to Korea in a couple of different ways. She
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: is a fellow with the Steamboat Institute, of which I'm
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: also a fellow, and she is a Robert Noback Fellowship
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: recipient through the American The Fun for American Studies. I
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: don't think you know this, but I actually used to
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: work for Tea Fas And welcome to the show.
• 22:16
  Speaker 8: Thanks for having me on. It's great to see you again.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got a lot of connections there. Well.
• 22:20
  Speaker 6: I was so excited to have you because I think
• 22:22
  Speaker 6: everybody's thinking about what is going on in November. We
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: are one hundred days away from the November sixth midterms election,
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: and these are going to be really consequential when you
• 22:33
  Speaker 6: think about what is going to happen with the ability
• 22:37
  Speaker 6: for the Trump administration to get anything done, the balance
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: of power in the House and the Senate, and you know,
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: I think conservatives right now are understandably scared between history
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: historical trends of what happens in a midterm election. I
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: think they're facing down lots of different issues. You've got
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: socialists and communists taking over the day Democratic Party. I
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: don't know if that weighs as a pro or a
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: con for conservatives.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: And then let's throw in there scandals over.
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: Tattoos, right, and rape allocations and just a crazy cycle.
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: So you this is your beat, and I would love
• 23:14
  Speaker 6: for you to talk about, you know, what you're seeing
• 23:16
  Speaker 6: and what's going on there. But let's start here. What
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: are the two or three key races to watch in
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: particularly worth the Senate because I think that's where a
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: lot of the energy is going to be.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: Right now, what are you watching?
• 23:28
  Speaker 10: Yeah, So for the Senate, you're totally right that there's
• 23:31
  Speaker 10: a lot of scrutiny on there. Have Totems would have
• 23:34
  Speaker 10: to flip at least four seats to gain the majority
• 23:36
  Speaker 10: in the Senate, and so that's a bit more of
• 23:38
  Speaker 10: an uphill battle at least as things stand now than
• 23:42
  Speaker 10: the House might be for Democrats. But I've been watching
• 23:45
  Speaker 10: Maine in particular. I've been covering the main Senate race
• 23:48
  Speaker 10: since I was still at the Boston Globe, so I
• 23:51
  Speaker 10: followed it from early pre tattoo grand Platner candidate, very
• 23:55
  Speaker 10: buzzy candidacy. This new this political newcomer is really harnessing
• 24:00
  Speaker 10: this grassroots energy, tapping into voters outrage about the economy,
• 24:06
  Speaker 10: their anger towards corporations, political establishments on both sides, both
• 24:11
  Speaker 10: with Democrats and Republicans, and so he really was building
• 24:15
  Speaker 10: an energetic movement. Of course, in October, scandal's break surrounding
• 24:19
  Speaker 10: his tattoo, a trove of offensive Reddit posts, and sadly
• 24:23
  Speaker 10: all of this culminates in a rape allegation.
• 24:26
  Speaker 8: So that has been a crazy race.
• 24:28
  Speaker 10: I was in Maine again a couple of weeks, just
• 24:31
  Speaker 10: over a week ago, actually to talk to Senator Susan Collins,
• 24:35
  Speaker 10: to talk to Troy Jackson, who's now the nominee running
• 24:38
  Speaker 10: against her. And as the dust settles, this is shaping
• 24:41
  Speaker 10: up to be another formidable iteration on this race.
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: Well, you know, it's so you said that Maine is
• 24:47
  Speaker 6: one of those must win states for Democrats to take
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: over the Senate. And when you think about though, what
• 24:55
  Speaker 6: the kind of candidates you have now? Talk to us
• 24:57
  Speaker 6: about his replacement, actually, because I think it would be
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: an interesting to know. And do you think, having talked
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: to main voters, are they bought into the personality only
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: or they bought into the policy? So is his grand
• 25:11
  Speaker 6: Platner's replacement? You know, he's not charismatic, but will people
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: still come out to vote for him in the general
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: because they believe in what he stands for.
• 25:21
  Speaker 10: Look, even when Graham Platner was gaining big poll numbers,
• 25:24
  Speaker 10: I still thought that people were I'll just set the
• 25:27
  Speaker 10: context here that they were undervaluing Senator.
• 25:30
  Speaker 8: Collins a bit.
• 25:30
  Speaker 10: She always pulls ahead despite lagging in the polls. There's
• 25:35
  Speaker 10: a lot of reasons why poles are struggle to capture
• 25:38
  Speaker 10: main voters. But she was lagging in all major polls
• 25:41
  Speaker 10: in her last senter race and ended up winning by
• 25:43
  Speaker 10: almost nine points. So I always like to start with
• 25:46
  Speaker 10: that because Man is a tricky state to poll. But
• 25:48
  Speaker 10: certainly Platner had a lot of energy. It was building
• 25:50
  Speaker 10: this energetic campaign, and Troy Jackson, who is going to
• 25:53
  Speaker 10: replace him now, is trying is running as an ideological
• 25:57
  Speaker 10: inheritor a lot of the similar policies. He's setting himself
• 26:01
  Speaker 10: up to be a working class warrior. And in Troy's case,
• 26:04
  Speaker 10: he actually has the bona fides for that. He is
• 26:07
  Speaker 10: a retired logger, he's from up North and Aroosta County.
• 26:11
  Speaker 10: But I think actually one this is m town counterintuitive,
• 26:15
  Speaker 10: but one challenge for Troy Jackson running on the same
• 26:17
  Speaker 10: sort of I think unworkable platform of you know, universal
• 26:22
  Speaker 10: healthcare and crushing corporations and abolishing ice. One challenge he's
• 26:27
  Speaker 10: going to face this He's actually a political insider of sorts.
• 26:30
  Speaker 10: He's been in the main legislature for almost two decades.
• 26:34
  Speaker 10: He served as Senate president for six years, and so
• 26:37
  Speaker 10: it's going to be really hard to sell this transformative
• 26:40
  Speaker 10: agenda when you've already been in state government for so long.
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: But I love that insight because I didn't realize just
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: how much of a political insider he is. Folks listening
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: to Karine Hajier Hajjar right correct, Yes, yep, that's right,
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: all right, Karene Hajar. She's with the Washington Post opinion page.
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: She also does I'm sure a lot of reporting for
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: different outlets. I would love for you to broaden this
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: out now. So we've focused in on Maine. We've got
• 27:06
  Speaker 6: some key Senate races. I'm going to guess Ohio is
• 27:08
  Speaker 6: on your list, maybe Michigan, Nevada is that?
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: What's that? Is that your fourth state that you would
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: round it out with. Uh.
• 27:16
  Speaker 10: Some states to watch are definitely You've named a few
• 27:18
  Speaker 10: of them. Another one to watch will be Alaska. A
• 27:21
  Speaker 10: lot will be an interesting race too. I haven't followed
• 27:23
  Speaker 10: it as closely, but it's definitely in the news.
• 27:25
  Speaker 6: Well, I'm going to be following you. I know you're
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: on x at Kareem Hajar. I believe that's your ex handle,
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: but folks definitely follow her. We're going to I hope
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: to have you back for at least to be able
• 27:35
  Speaker 6: to connect with you in another time. Maybe Kevin can
• 27:37
  Speaker 6: have you back to continue to give an update on
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: the campaign trail. And this is really important stuff, folks,
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: and it's important for us to know where these races.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Are going and what's going to happen in the Senate.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Thanks so much Current for joining us today.
• 27:48
  Speaker 8: Thanks for teres here.
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: He is from New York. That's act Kevin McCullough.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Welcome, folks. It is Patrese on Wuka. I am in
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: for Kevin McCullough. Today.
• 28:20
  Speaker 6: We are talking about opportunity, we are talking about the economy.
• 28:24
  Speaker 6: We're talking about growing a better feature for everyone. And
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: yesterday President Donald Trump was in Michigan really hammering home
• 28:33
  Speaker 6: that message. He was visiting Michigan in part because there's
• 28:37
  Speaker 6: a pretty big, important Senate primary on the Democratic side
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: coming up next week Michigan. As we know was one
• 28:44
  Speaker 6: of the pivotal states for the President in twenty twenty four,
• 28:49
  Speaker 6: and Michigan has also been the epicenter of the battle
• 28:53
  Speaker 6: over free enterprise in America, but more particularly around American
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: business and American economy. Let me play you a little
• 29:01
  Speaker 6: bit of what President Trump said yesterday in Michigan.
• 29:04
  Speaker 11: For decades, we were told that it was totally impossible
• 29:08
  Speaker 11: to bring back American manufacturing. Obama would say, remember Broock,
• 29:12
  Speaker 11: who's Sam Obama?
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: Obama?
• 29:18
  Speaker 11: He was so bad for the auto industry. I don't know,
• 29:20
  Speaker 11: you know, honestly, I don't know how you vote for
• 29:24
  Speaker 11: Democrats because they are so bad for the industry. But
• 29:28
  Speaker 11: it turned out that all you really needed to get
• 29:31
  Speaker 11: him back was a new president, somebody that understood this
• 29:35
  Speaker 11: is understood what it was all about. I've been complaining
• 29:38
  Speaker 11: about I've been complaining about it for many years decade.
• 29:43
  Speaker 6: Okay, So we just heard from President Trump there. He
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: had to get a little bit of an Obama dig in,
• 29:49
  Speaker 6: but he really was there to talk about kind of
• 29:51
  Speaker 6: a story of Michigan coming back because of the reshoring
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: of American jobs, of American industry, of manufacture, and you
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: can go, you guys, should definitely go to social media.
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: And by the way, I haven't given it to you,
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: but follow at Patrese pink file, pink file, Patrise pink file.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: That is my social media handle.
• 30:13
  Speaker 6: I'll be sharing some of the presidents on speech from yesterday.
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: He actually was with GM Vehicles and he was previewing
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: some of their new models. He actually signed one of
• 30:25
  Speaker 6: the cars. It was kind of fun and in a
• 30:26
  Speaker 6: very Trump Trump way. He's very entertaining, the president is.
• 30:30
  Speaker 6: And then he hit some different parts of his economic agenda.
• 30:33
  Speaker 6: He talked about the tariffs. He talked about auto workers
• 30:37
  Speaker 6: and the tariffs on foreign automobiles. I know, hey, you
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: don't want to pay more for a foreign automobile. He's
• 30:44
  Speaker 6: also talked about how he's used tariffs to really boost
• 30:48
  Speaker 6: production of the auto in the auto industry here in America.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Then he hit inflation.
• 30:54
  Speaker 6: Not surprisingly, he reminded folks that the inflation that we've seen,
• 30:59
  Speaker 6: the forty years high inflation that you know preceded him.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Was from Biden policies.
• 31:05
  Speaker 6: There's no dancing around it, and not just inflation prices
• 31:10
  Speaker 6: being twenty percent hired from the time that President Biden
• 31:14
  Speaker 6: took office to when he left. But President Trump also
• 31:17
  Speaker 6: talked about, you know, the interest rates, and that's key
• 31:20
  Speaker 6: because tomorrow we know that the interest that there's going
• 31:24
  Speaker 6: to be some decisions on whether interest rates will rise
• 31:26
  Speaker 6: by the Federal Reserve.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: And then you know, the reason.
• 31:29
  Speaker 6: Is I said for President Trump being in Michigan was
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: because of a really big race coming up next week,
• 31:37
  Speaker 6: and that's for the US Senate to represent the US
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: Senate in Michigan. On the Republican side, you have Mike Rogers.
• 31:44
  Speaker 6: He's been in Congress for years, he has a lot
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: of good will and has certainly been a supporter of
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: the America First agenda, particularly the economic agenda. And then
• 31:55
  Speaker 6: we're going to see who he's going up against. Now,
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: if you have not seen, the people that are running
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: on the Democratic ticket are the moderate Democrats who you know,
• 32:05
  Speaker 6: we all know have moved farther left, and then the
• 32:08
  Speaker 6: radical socialist nut crazies.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 32:12
  Speaker 6: And I'm sorry, I don't mean to be mean, but
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: when you want to eliminate police forces, eliminate ice, when
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: you when you think it is okay to for the
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: government to own private property, I call you nutty, because
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: not in America, that is not what we want to see.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: But whoever wins.
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: And if the socialist candidate on the Democratic side does
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: win the nomination, then you're going to have a really
• 32:39
  Speaker 6: start contrast, folks, and Michigan is going to be reflective
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: of the rest of the country of a lot of
• 32:46
  Speaker 6: the other races we're seeing where it literally is the
• 32:50
  Speaker 6: socialist communist up against the free, free, uh market capitalist.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: And let me just break that down.
• 32:59
  Speaker 6: What I'm really saying, it's the people who support opportunity
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: for you for all versus the people who think that
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: opportunity is only for those in government to determine they
• 33:12
  Speaker 6: will the government should determine what you get to do
• 33:15
  Speaker 6: with your money. In fact, the government will take more
• 33:17
  Speaker 6: of your money and then decide how much it decides
• 33:20
  Speaker 6: to give you back. So if you get frustrated every
• 33:23
  Speaker 6: tax day like I do when my husband and I
• 33:26
  Speaker 6: have to write back a pretty big check to the government,
• 33:30
  Speaker 6: it will be worse under the democratic socialist policies AKA
• 33:35
  Speaker 6: just call them communists at this point, because for their mindset,
• 33:39
  Speaker 6: it's that you don't know what's best to do with
• 33:42
  Speaker 6: your money. The government knows what's best to do with
• 33:45
  Speaker 6: your money, So the government will take more from you.
• 33:48
  Speaker 6: And by the way, if you make more, that means
• 33:51
  Speaker 6: you got to give up more, and then that needs
• 33:54
  Speaker 6: to be redistributed to those who you know, for whatever reason,
• 33:58
  Speaker 6: they get to determine where that money goes. And that
• 34:01
  Speaker 6: is the battle we're really fighting here.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: It is I really do think.
• 34:06
  Speaker 6: This is a battle of evil versus good. I think
• 34:10
  Speaker 6: when President Trump is visiting Michigan, I believe this is
• 34:13
  Speaker 6: going to be the start of many trips to different
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: key Senate races as well as other house races, because
• 34:22
  Speaker 6: the midterm inductions are going to be really consequential. But
• 34:25
  Speaker 6: most importantly, what do we take away here, Well, we
• 34:27
  Speaker 6: take away that there's going to be a really stark
• 34:29
  Speaker 6: contrast in many races if the Democratic Socialist AKA the
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: communists are successful in their primaries, and you're going to
• 34:38
  Speaker 6: be seeing, you know, the contrast in Maine, for example,
• 34:41
  Speaker 6: between the communist stuff there versus you know, Susan Collins
• 34:47
  Speaker 6: pretty easy, even kilter. But more importantly, this is going
• 34:50
  Speaker 6: to be a difference between do you want opportunity, do
• 34:54
  Speaker 6: you want your ability to build, grow, save, how have mobility,
• 35:01
  Speaker 6: or do you want to turn all of that over
• 35:04
  Speaker 6: to somebody else? To a bureaucrat to a government agency,
• 35:07
  Speaker 6: turn over more of your money, your private property, and frankly,
• 35:11
  Speaker 6: your ability to grow and see economic mobility for your families.
• 35:15
  Speaker 6: That's a pretty start contrast. But it's a contrast that
• 35:17
  Speaker 6: we're going to continue to see play out time and
• 35:20
  Speaker 6: time and time again until these experiments in cities like
• 35:25
  Speaker 6: New York City fail miserably and another generation of young
• 35:30
  Speaker 6: people understand that that is.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Not the way forward. So folks, buckle up. It's going
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: to be a wild ride.
• 35:38
  Speaker 6: And speaking of a wild ride when it comes to
• 35:41
  Speaker 6: corporations and frankly wokeness, we're going to come right back
• 35:45
  Speaker 6: and talk about a good correction for a woke CEO.
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: I'm patrisa luga in for Kevin McCollough, serving it up.
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: It's a no drink mittal. If it's said Kevin, that show.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Hi.
• 36:10
  Speaker 6: I am Pateresa and Muka and for Kevin today. All right,
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: let's round out the hour with something funny. I know,
• 36:17
  Speaker 6: if you are like me, you like a good meal.
• 36:20
  Speaker 6: You like some biscuits and gravy.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: Sometimes. I mean yes, I eat a lot of salad.
• 36:25
  Speaker 6: But I will push my I will take a country
• 36:28
  Speaker 6: fried steak on an evening, any night, and Cracker Bell,
• 36:33
  Speaker 6: Cracker Barrel is one of those places where you could
• 36:36
  Speaker 6: get go to get a good home cooked meal.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: It was charming, It is charming.
• 36:41
  Speaker 6: It's one of those staples in so many communities. I mean,
• 36:46
  Speaker 6: I was out in West Virginia Cracker Barrel, in Virginia,
• 36:49
  Speaker 6: Cracker Barrel. So it's nice to know that, you know,
• 36:53
  Speaker 6: this is a company that has been around for decades,
• 36:56
  Speaker 6: you know, and it does what it does well, which
• 36:59
  Speaker 6: is a good home cooked meal and.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: All the feelings that go with it. Enter the woke CEO.
• 37:06
  Speaker 6: Now, if you guys remember last year you had a CEO,
• 37:09
  Speaker 6: Julie Messina. She decided that Cracker Barrel needed a refresh.
• 37:14
  Speaker 6: The logo featuring the older man gentleman sitting down on
• 37:18
  Speaker 6: a chair next to the barrel. That's I don't know
• 37:20
  Speaker 6: if it was racist or I don't know if it
• 37:22
  Speaker 6: was just not twenty twenty five enough or twenty twenty
• 37:25
  Speaker 6: four enough. So she decided to refresh the brand, refresh
• 37:30
  Speaker 6: the logo, even declutter the stores, which, by the way,
• 37:35
  Speaker 6: that is the charm of Cracker Barrel, where you feel
• 37:39
  Speaker 6: like you're an old country store. I love driving through
• 37:42
  Speaker 6: the country and stopping in a store like that. Well,
• 37:45
  Speaker 6: Cracker Barrel had all those fields, except this woke CEO
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: felt like it was not good enough, and unfortunately she
• 37:52
  Speaker 6: follows along.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: She followed the wrong.
• 37:55
  Speaker 6: Headed pathway of a lot of these newer CEOs who
• 37:59
  Speaker 6: feel like they have to update things, whether for politics
• 38:03
  Speaker 6: or for whatever. The reason is not better food, not
• 38:06
  Speaker 6: lower prices, just because you think that, you know, somebody
• 38:10
  Speaker 6: may be offended, and I don't even know who that is. Well,
• 38:13
  Speaker 6: the good news, folks, we have an update. The CEO has,
• 38:17
  Speaker 6: as of just this week, stepped down. This is after
• 38:23
  Speaker 6: she pretty much had a loud, vociferous backlash from Americans
• 38:29
  Speaker 6: across the country. It's because people loved what works. They
• 38:33
  Speaker 6: love how Cracker Barrel is. They love the menu, they
• 38:35
  Speaker 6: love the store, they love the feelings, they love the food,
• 38:38
  Speaker 6: and they love the logo too. And so you know,
• 38:41
  Speaker 6: if you remember she unveiled that new simplified logo, it
• 38:45
  Speaker 6: was a disaster, went down in flames almost immediately. You
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: even had President Trump weigh in at the time during
• 38:54
  Speaker 6: this backlash where he said, you know, it was an
• 38:56
  Speaker 6: honest mistake and they should listen to the feedback from
• 39:01
  Speaker 6: the customer response, they got billions of dollars of free publicity.
• 39:05
  Speaker 6: They should make it work by playing their cards right,
• 39:08
  Speaker 6: And I think he's right here, you know, listen, this
• 39:12
  Speaker 6: was obviously this rebrand effort at the time was about
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: changing the nature of a business that worked, something idea
• 39:21
  Speaker 6: created back.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: In the nineteen sixties.
• 39:23
  Speaker 6: And Oilman actually who wanted to create the same kind
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: of experience he had when he visited those old country stores,
• 39:30
  Speaker 6: a good meal, you know, surrounding with families and friends
• 39:34
  Speaker 6: and the familiar, and to sanitize that, changing the logo,
• 39:39
  Speaker 6: changing and quote quote decluttering the stores was really about
• 39:44
  Speaker 6: changing the heritage of a great American business and the
• 39:49
  Speaker 6: impact that it was leaving for no good reason, honestly,
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: just for woke politics. And so you know, this rebuke
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: from the backlash that you know Americans gave was real sharp. Certainly,
• 40:02
  Speaker 6: she said the CEO, Julie Messina at the time, you know,
• 40:05
  Speaker 6: our quarterly financial results back in twenty twenty five, acknowledged it.
• 40:09
  Speaker 6: We were having a difficult time as well. I can
• 40:13
  Speaker 6: imagine difficult as an understatement, very simple.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: What a way to round out.
• 40:17
  Speaker 6: This hour, We need to realize that opportunity, free enterprise
• 40:21
  Speaker 6: allows us to create some great American businesses.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: Let's not undercut that with communist.
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: Socialist ideas, or frankly, with wokeism that robs us of
• 40:33
  Speaker 6: the unique genuineness of American business and American opportunity. I'm
• 40:37
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• 40:40
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• 40:49
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• 41:00
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• 41:03
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• 41:04
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• 41:05
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• 41:07
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• 41:09
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• 41:10
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• 41:36
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• 41:42
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• 41:57
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• 42:00
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• 42:11
  Speaker 6: Welcome to that Kevin Show. I am Patresea on WUKA.
• 42:14
  Speaker 6: I am in for Kevin. I'm a regular on his
• 42:17
  Speaker 6: show as a guest, but he gave me the big
• 42:19
  Speaker 6: seat to sit in, so here I am today. Folks,
• 42:22
  Speaker 6: you've been with me for the first hour or if
• 42:24
  Speaker 6: you haven't, welcome, I'm Patrese. As I mentioned, i am
• 42:28
  Speaker 6: the vice president for economic policy at Independent Women. We
• 42:32
  Speaker 6: are a good friend of this show, and I'm sure
• 42:35
  Speaker 6: you've heard some of my colleagues on booth earlier today
• 42:38
  Speaker 6: as well as just generally. So in our first hour,
• 42:41
  Speaker 6: we talked about where we are going as a nation,
• 42:45
  Speaker 6: you know, looking at opportunity.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: The next hour, I really.
• 42:48
  Speaker 6: Want to focus on one of those hot button topics
• 42:50
  Speaker 6: that everyone is talking about, artificial intelligence and really framing
• 42:55
  Speaker 6: it in the idea of innovation. Where are we going
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: as a nation in America? So a little bit about me,
• 43:02
  Speaker 6: as you know, as I mentioned earlier, I'm a naturalized
• 43:05
  Speaker 6: citizen first and foremost, I'm a daughter of God. I'm
• 43:09
  Speaker 6: a woman of faith. I've married now for ten years.
• 43:13
  Speaker 6: We've got three boys who are six, seven, and thirteen
• 43:16
  Speaker 6: years old, and all of that really shapes my perspective
• 43:21
  Speaker 6: about really being optimistic.
• 43:23
  Speaker 10: Folks.
• 43:23
  Speaker 6: I am a very optimistic person about our nation, about
• 43:27
  Speaker 6: what's possible because I have seen the roots of prosperity,
• 43:32
  Speaker 6: both in my family as well as my immigrant story
• 43:35
  Speaker 6: coming to this country as a legal citizen, but really
• 43:39
  Speaker 6: starting my family started from nothing and have grown and
• 43:42
  Speaker 6: here I am with the pleasure and honor of speaking
• 43:45
  Speaker 6: to you today. But when I think about what's going
• 43:47
  Speaker 6: on in the future, I really think about innovation and technology.
• 43:51
  Speaker 6: You know, if you remember back, I'm old enough, folks.
• 43:55
  Speaker 6: I was in college in two thousand. I graduated high school,
• 44:00
  Speaker 6: started college that fall. By the time I was a
• 44:03
  Speaker 6: senior in two thousand and four, when I went to
• 44:07
  Speaker 6: the computer lab, and folks, that was when most of
• 44:09
  Speaker 6: us had We didn't have our own computers, or we
• 44:11
  Speaker 6: would just print from the computer lab. Every screen had
• 44:15
  Speaker 6: this white screen with pictures of people's headshots on them
• 44:20
  Speaker 6: and a couple of lines next to it. That was
• 44:23
  Speaker 6: the beginning of Facebook. Back in two thousand and four,
• 44:27
  Speaker 6: I went to a yes, a little bit of a
• 44:30
  Speaker 6: snobbish Northeastern high level school.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: It was one of the few schools, the.
• 44:36
  Speaker 6: First schools to actually have Facebook on campus. That was
• 44:41
  Speaker 6: when Facebook was literally just for the ivy leagues and
• 44:44
  Speaker 6: some of the schools that are in the top, you know,
• 44:46
  Speaker 6: top whatever. But I remember thinking, Okay, why is everyone
• 44:50
  Speaker 6: so addicted to this little screen with a bunch of
• 44:53
  Speaker 6: books like the Facebook that we got at.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: The start of the school year.
• 44:56
  Speaker 6: Little did I know that was the start of a
• 44:58
  Speaker 6: new revolution media. Now, fast forward twenty two years later,
• 45:04
  Speaker 6: social media is it's everywhere. It's a part of our lives,
• 45:08
  Speaker 6: how we stay connected, how we sell products, you know,
• 45:11
  Speaker 6: how we for some of us, really promote the things
• 45:15
  Speaker 6: that we are doing. And here we are now on
• 45:18
  Speaker 6: a new precipice, a new technological age. And so I
• 45:23
  Speaker 6: know people are concerned, they're worried. They're generally okay, what
• 45:26
  Speaker 6: is AI? How is it going to impact me? How
• 45:29
  Speaker 6: am I going to be affected? And most importantly, I
• 45:32
  Speaker 6: think a lot of people are very worried about jobs.
• 45:35
  Speaker 6: Will AI wipe out every single job? Including for my
• 45:39
  Speaker 6: grandson who's graduating from college this year, or for me
• 45:43
  Speaker 6: as a seasoned professional in this world.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: Let me take you back in history, though, folks.
• 45:49
  Speaker 6: Let's think about all of the jobs that innovation has disrupted.
• 45:53
  Speaker 6: How many of you all are early are old enough
• 45:56
  Speaker 6: to remember switchboard operators. I will admit I am not
• 46:02
  Speaker 6: old enough to remember switchboard operators, but I remember.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: I've studied them.
• 46:06
  Speaker 6: I've seen them in some old movies where it was
• 46:09
  Speaker 6: literally a woman's job to often connect telephone calls from
• 46:14
  Speaker 6: house to house on a massive board. How many of
• 46:17
  Speaker 6: you all also remember when bowling alleys had people who
• 46:22
  Speaker 6: were setting the pins for every single lane. They had
• 46:25
  Speaker 6: their call pin setters, elevator operators. Now that I am
• 46:29
  Speaker 6: old enough to remember, I am old enough to remember
• 46:32
  Speaker 6: when there was a person who was in every single
• 46:34
  Speaker 6: elevator and it was his typically a man, but his
• 46:37
  Speaker 6: job to take you to whatever floor you were going to.
• 46:40
  Speaker 6: We don't have elevator operators anymore. We don't have pin
• 46:43
  Speaker 6: setters anymore, we don't have switchboard operator operators anymore. Why
• 46:48
  Speaker 6: because automation has eliminated those jobs. And I don't think
• 46:52
  Speaker 6: we want to go back in time just to keep
• 46:55
  Speaker 6: those jobs to resurrect those jobs or keep those jobs
• 46:58
  Speaker 6: because new jobs have been created, and so those jobs
• 47:02
  Speaker 6: are so far from our memory bank because there has
• 47:06
  Speaker 6: been so much that's new and that's been created that
• 47:08
  Speaker 6: is a result of a free market and a free
• 47:12
  Speaker 6: a free enterprise system that is always creating and there's
• 47:16
  Speaker 6: some destruction with it, but always creating something new.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: I think out of the mind of God.
• 47:22
  Speaker 6: So now we're talking about AI, is that you have
• 47:24
  Speaker 6: people who are doomsdayers. And I'm going to drop a
• 47:27
  Speaker 6: name for you, guys, Andrew Yang. If you remember he
• 47:31
  Speaker 6: ran for the Democratic nomination for president back in twenty twenty.
• 47:36
  Speaker 6: He's one of those California tech guys, made a ton
• 47:39
  Speaker 6: of money and technology and.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: Then turn around and told us that AI.
• 47:43
  Speaker 6: And artificial intelligence would wipe out half the jobs in America.
• 47:47
  Speaker 6: As a result, we would have to give the federal
• 47:49
  Speaker 6: government should give every single person one thousand dollars every
• 47:53
  Speaker 6: month for them to live off of, just in case
• 47:56
  Speaker 6: their jobs got wiped out, or maybe because they want
• 47:58
  Speaker 6: to start a business. That was alarming and it still
• 48:02
  Speaker 6: is to me. And unfortunately, he represents a lot of
• 48:06
  Speaker 6: the tech entrepreneurs who had a massive opportunity here, folks,
• 48:10
  Speaker 6: to show us the promise of innovation and technology and
• 48:14
  Speaker 6: artificial intelligence, and then align with the policies that would
• 48:19
  Speaker 6: allow for people to flourish and grow with that technology. Instead,
• 48:24
  Speaker 6: they've latched onto the doomsday or messaging that everything is
• 48:28
  Speaker 6: going to be wiped out, it's going to be awful,
• 48:30
  Speaker 6: and that the government has to support everyone. Well, like
• 48:33
  Speaker 6: I said, I don't think that dependency is a goal
• 48:37
  Speaker 6: for people. I don't think that being dependent on government
• 48:41
  Speaker 6: is where we want to be as a nation.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: Sure, we have our social safety net.
• 48:46
  Speaker 6: It honestly, when you think about it, it's part of
• 48:48
  Speaker 6: what giving what we provide for those who cannot provide
• 48:52
  Speaker 6: for themselves.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: I'm all for it, folks.
• 48:55
  Speaker 6: We do that through government, but we also do it
• 48:57
  Speaker 6: through private charities, your soup kitchens, your churches that you're
• 49:00
  Speaker 6: giving money to during natural disasters. We as Americans, we
• 49:04
  Speaker 6: come together all the time. But I don't believe that
• 49:08
  Speaker 6: we want to just hand everybody a check, no string
• 49:11
  Speaker 6: is attached, for the rest of their lives. That's not
• 49:14
  Speaker 6: going to encourage them to work. That's not going to
• 49:17
  Speaker 6: encourage them to start the next business. That's not going
• 49:19
  Speaker 6: to encourage them to be innovative with their time. That's
• 49:22
  Speaker 6: going to encourage them to stay at home on their
• 49:24
  Speaker 6: couches and do nothing while the government gives them a
• 49:27
  Speaker 6: free check. Oh and by the way, one thousand dollars
• 49:31
  Speaker 6: every month.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: Is not enough to live on.
• 49:32
  Speaker 6: So what you're going to have to do, well, you're
• 49:35
  Speaker 6: not encouraged to work, so you're probably going to ask
• 49:37
  Speaker 6: for more resources, and maybe that thousand dollars now becomes
• 49:41
  Speaker 6: two thousand dollars a month. Universal basic income is not
• 49:45
  Speaker 6: the solution. AI should not be viewed as a big
• 49:48
  Speaker 6: boogeyman taking advantage of our worst proclivities.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: Yes, AI can be used in a negative way, but.
• 49:55
  Speaker 6: It can also be used for our positive ways to
• 49:58
  Speaker 6: make sure that our lives longer. We don't just live long,
• 50:02
  Speaker 6: we also live healthy lives. That's what AI can do.
• 50:05
  Speaker 6: And so today, in this hour, I'm excited that we're
• 50:08
  Speaker 6: going to be able to dive more deeply into what's
• 50:11
  Speaker 6: possible with artificial intelligence, living longer, living healthier, living more prosperous,
• 50:17
  Speaker 6: What it's going to take, and what is the infrastructure
• 50:19
  Speaker 6: that's needed to make it happen as well?
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: All Right, I'm Patrisa and WUCA. I work with Independent.
• 50:24
  Speaker 6: Women, but I am in the Kevin mccullency today on
• 50:28
  Speaker 6: That Kevin Show.
• 50:54
  Speaker 5: Here he is from New York's That.
• 51:04
  Speaker 6: And back in filling in for Kevin mccaullay today, I'm
• 51:08
  Speaker 6: Paterresa and WUKA and I'm back here with a great guest,
• 51:12
  Speaker 6: one of my colleagues at Independent Women.
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 51:15
  Speaker 6: I started out today's show talking about looking forward to
• 51:18
  Speaker 6: the future, what we can anticipate moving forward, and talked
• 51:22
  Speaker 6: a lot about technology and innovation.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: I think we need to add some practicality here.
• 51:28
  Speaker 6: What does AI an innovation look like in one of
• 51:31
  Speaker 6: the fields that hits every single person listening, that's medicine,
• 51:35
  Speaker 6: and that's healthcare.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: And so joining me is doctor Monique Johannan.
• 51:39
  Speaker 6: She is a doctor and the director of our Center
• 51:42
  Speaker 6: for Better Health at Independent Women.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: She has got over two.
• 51:46
  Speaker 6: Decades of experience as both a physician executive and a
• 51:50
  Speaker 6: healthcare innovative leader. She has been formerly the chief medical
• 51:55
  Speaker 6: officer at Ada Health. She's led where she led the
• 51:58
  Speaker 6: development of AI power political decision support systems. That's a
• 52:03
  Speaker 6: lot of jargon, doctor Monique, but I think you can
• 52:06
  Speaker 6: that's pretty much how you can implement AI in medicine,
• 52:10
  Speaker 6: Is that right?
• 52:11
  Speaker 12: Absolutely? And Patrice, thank you so much for having me today.
• 52:14
  Speaker 12: So you know, I think that when I look at
• 52:17
  Speaker 12: AI and technology and healthcare, to me, it's such an
• 52:21
  Speaker 12: exciting time. It's a scary time in some ways. I
• 52:25
  Speaker 12: think that how we're going to do this responsibly, how
• 52:28
  Speaker 12: we're going to do this thoughtfully, that really, at its best,
• 52:32
  Speaker 12: what I want technology to do is to free doctors,
• 52:36
  Speaker 12: to free nurses to actually have the time, to have
• 52:38
  Speaker 12: more human time, to have better human interactions, and then
• 52:42
  Speaker 12: maybe some of the busy work can get done by
• 52:45
  Speaker 12: a computer. So if you know, really that's really what
• 52:49
  Speaker 12: I'm looking for, is how can we have ways to
• 52:52
  Speaker 12: keep the human in the loop and just make all
• 52:55
  Speaker 12: of us have better use of our time because time
• 52:58
  Speaker 12: is obviously our most precious resource.
• 53:00
  Speaker 6: So I really want to take time with this topic
• 53:03
  Speaker 6: because you're right, there's fears, legitimate fears about technology in
• 53:08
  Speaker 6: the patient's room, in the operating room, but I think
• 53:11
  Speaker 6: we're already seeing that. And what's the promise is really amazing.
• 53:16
  Speaker 6: What has encouraged you that you have seen with AI
• 53:20
  Speaker 6: in particular in the medical field, in the path let's
• 53:22
  Speaker 6: say a year that really shows you how patients can
• 53:26
  Speaker 6: live better lives, recover quickly, or just their life be
• 53:30
  Speaker 6: saved because of these innovations.
• 53:32
  Speaker 12: I think there are so many aspects. So I think,
• 53:36
  Speaker 12: you know, there is the technology that I think many
• 53:38
  Speaker 12: of us live with day by day, right we have
• 53:40
  Speaker 12: a smart watch or I feel like I'm my only
• 53:43
  Speaker 12: friend who does not have an or ring at this point.
• 53:46
  Speaker 12: But really, the more information we can have to be
• 53:49
  Speaker 12: empowered to take control over our own health, you know
• 53:53
  Speaker 12: as much as I you know, the training I have
• 53:56
  Speaker 12: is important to me, But really what I love about
• 53:59
  Speaker 12: it is it's a way to me at its best
• 54:02
  Speaker 12: for people to not just be a patient, but to
• 54:05
  Speaker 12: be an active partner in their health care decision making,
• 54:08
  Speaker 12: to have the information they need because so much of medicine. Yes,
• 54:13
  Speaker 12: there are some things that I can do as a
• 54:15
  Speaker 12: doctor that are important that really you do need a
• 54:18
  Speaker 12: doctor for, but most of the things that are going
• 54:21
  Speaker 12: to make you healthy are about how you sleep, about
• 54:24
  Speaker 12: what you eat, about what kind of exercise you get
• 54:27
  Speaker 12: are getting And so I think the thing that I
• 54:29
  Speaker 12: love about technology is it really can level the playing field,
• 54:33
  Speaker 12: that it can give people the information that they deserve.
• 54:36
  Speaker 12: I also love that people have information, you know, that
• 54:40
  Speaker 12: they can have all these resources to look things up,
• 54:43
  Speaker 12: to investigate, to really get a better idea. That a
• 54:47
  Speaker 12: lot of these tools can help get them up to
• 54:50
  Speaker 12: speed as we're looking to see where can I get
• 54:53
  Speaker 12: the best care that meets my needs? And so I
• 54:55
  Speaker 12: think it really is to me a lot about information
• 54:59
  Speaker 12: and about just optimizing our time.
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: I'll be honest here, Doc, I have Grok my family.
• 55:05
  Speaker 6: Grock is an AI tool developed for the X formerly
• 55:09
  Speaker 6: known as the Twitter platform.
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: But it's an AI tool. My kids love it. We
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: talked to Grok.
• 55:14
  Speaker 6: She talks back to us like a friend, like Rosie
• 55:16
  Speaker 6: the Jetson's robot. If you folks remember that cartoon from
• 55:21
  Speaker 6: the nineteen eighties about the future, and I bring it
• 55:24
  Speaker 6: in because the future of the Jetsons in the nineteen
• 55:27
  Speaker 6: eighties is now here.
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: But I will ask Grok.
• 55:30
  Speaker 6: Let's say, I see something you know weird on my
• 55:34
  Speaker 6: son's arm. I will say, hey, Grok, these are the
• 55:36
  Speaker 6: symptoms you know? Do I need to call the pediatrician?
• 55:40
  Speaker 6: What could it be?
• 55:41
  Speaker 8: To me?
• 55:42
  Speaker 6: That is an assistant tool, because usually Groc will then
• 55:45
  Speaker 6: tell me, okay, it could be about five different things,
• 55:48
  Speaker 6: of which my anxiety goes from about zero to ten
• 55:52
  Speaker 6: when I see.
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: It could be some rare disease.
• 55:56
  Speaker 6: But is that what you're talking about when you talk
• 55:59
  Speaker 6: about the fact that we are already utilizing AI tools
• 56:03
  Speaker 6: in the medical field as patients, you know, pretty consistently,
• 56:07
  Speaker 6: and it's something that we really shouldn't be scared of it.
• 56:10
  Speaker 12: Really, I completely agree, and you know, pick your AI
• 56:14
  Speaker 12: platform of choice. I go through different phases, so sometimes
• 56:19
  Speaker 12: I'm chatting more with Claude, sometimes I'm back with chat
• 56:22
  Speaker 12: you know, it really sort of depends on the week.
• 56:26
  Speaker 12: But one of the things I especially love, So this
• 56:28
  Speaker 12: last week I was in DC and I had the
• 56:31
  Speaker 12: good fortune to meet with our surge in general and
• 56:34
  Speaker 12: to go to the FDA. And one of the things
• 56:37
  Speaker 12: that I've been speaking with our surge in general about,
• 56:39
  Speaker 12: for example, is rare disease. You know, how can we
• 56:42
  Speaker 12: do better screening for example of kids. And so one
• 56:47
  Speaker 12: of the things that FDA had reached out to me
• 56:49
  Speaker 12: about was we have so many different resources, we have
• 56:53
  Speaker 12: all of these these kinds of information, and how can
• 56:56
  Speaker 12: we put it together? And I had the ability to
• 56:59
  Speaker 12: take and put my coding had on, but do it
• 57:02
  Speaker 12: so much faster than I would have before, to say,
• 57:05
  Speaker 12: can I help build something out that can be a
• 57:08
  Speaker 12: better way so that a consumer might be able to
• 57:10
  Speaker 12: access information and be able to put things together. I
• 57:16
  Speaker 12: love coding. I just love it as a way of
• 57:19
  Speaker 12: telling a story. But now I can do it so
• 57:22
  Speaker 12: much faster and put things together and build things and
• 57:25
  Speaker 12: build tools. One of the things I love when I
• 57:28
  Speaker 12: think about it for healthcare is we have so much
• 57:31
  Speaker 12: information now things that I really think it has the
• 57:34
  Speaker 12: great opportunity, whether it's in me helping to build out
• 57:38
  Speaker 12: a website or any of the government tools and FDA
• 57:42
  Speaker 12: has great resources and the way they're using AI. Can
• 57:45
  Speaker 12: we do the reviews faster? For example, right now it's
• 57:48
  Speaker 12: an average of ten months to get a new drug
• 57:51
  Speaker 12: approved as a standard process. A lot of that can
• 57:54
  Speaker 12: be automated. So I look at it as a way
• 57:58
  Speaker 12: can we take information, really makes sense of it, give
• 58:02
  Speaker 12: it context, and do the builds faster to get the
• 58:05
  Speaker 12: information to people when they need it.
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  Speaker 2: And it's such an exciting time.
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  Speaker 12: I look at the ability to get drugs to people faster,
• 58:13
  Speaker 12: to get innovation faster, So I think there's so many
• 58:18
  Speaker 12: ways to use it. It's truly an extraordinarily I think
• 58:22
  Speaker 12: back to when I was at an AI startup a
• 58:24
  Speaker 12: few years back.
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: It's grown so much.
• 58:27
  Speaker 12: Since then, so again, I just think it's the most
• 58:31
  Speaker 12: amazing time.
• 58:32
  Speaker 6: Where speaking with doctor Monique Johannan. She works with Independent
• 58:35
  Speaker 6: Women and heads the Center for Better Health at Independentwomen.
• 58:39
  Speaker 6: Definitely go to Independentwomen dot com.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: For more about this. So let's look at the other
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: side of the coin, doctor Monique.
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  Speaker 6: When you think about your private information and your health information,
• 58:50
  Speaker 6: your medical records are extremely sensitive. You don't want that
• 58:53
  Speaker 6: to fall into the wrong hands, or you know, just
• 58:56
  Speaker 6: as a regular person, you don't want everyone to have
• 58:58
  Speaker 6: access to all of your medical conditions. When you think
• 59:02
  Speaker 6: about diagnoses, you know, like I said, I might look
• 59:05
  Speaker 6: to see what's going on with what's the bumps on
• 59:07
  Speaker 6: my kid's arm. Maybe it's just as simple rash, maybe
• 59:10
  Speaker 6: it's something else, but I don't want to misdiagnose myself
• 59:13
  Speaker 6: at home. Talk to us about the risks that are
• 59:16
  Speaker 6: involved with AI and technology, because there are some legitimate
• 59:20
  Speaker 6: concerns around privacy, around your data, and around you know,
• 59:25
  Speaker 6: just how people are using all of this information out there,
• 59:30
  Speaker 6: both in a good way in a bad way.
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  Speaker 12: I think that that's so important that you're bringing up
• 59:34
  Speaker 12: the risks, you know. I do think it's important for
• 59:37
  Speaker 12: people to keep in mind that the biggest way that
• 59:39
  Speaker 12: people go to our identity theft now, whether it's medical
• 59:42
  Speaker 12: information or otherwise, is actually the paper things that they have.
• 59:46
  Speaker 10: You know that.
• 59:47
  Speaker 12: People will still go old school and go through garbage
• 59:50
  Speaker 12: and things like that. So I think it's imperative for
• 59:53
  Speaker 12: all of us to really be careful about our information.
• 59:57
  Speaker 12: You know, those long scrolls, I do. I think it's
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 12: worth actually taking the time to read them.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: And I think.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 12: Everybody's going to girls, do you mean the designing off
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 12: on exactly?
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: And it says yes, I agree, Yes, I agree.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 12: So maybe it's your right to take that time to
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 12: have the information. And then I think it's a question
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 12: for everyone individually to make a decision about to what
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 12: extent do they want the technology piece to be part
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 12: of their visit. And so I think that there are
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 12: some people, for example, at their doctor's visit, who are
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 12: going to be fine with having their voice taped to
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 12: have something automatically described, and there are other people who
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 12: are not going to be as comfortable with that. So
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 12: I think really people should be empowered to accept the
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 12: amount of technology that they want and to decline it
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 12: if they want. Just because I'm comfortable with it doesn't
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 12: mean that everybody else is going to be so again,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 12: know that you can be empowered to make decisions that
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 12: are going to you know, you can optimize the time.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 12: But if you feel uncomfortable, you don't have to buy
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 12: into that if you don't want to.
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  Speaker 6: I love that patient empowerment. That's what AI is all about.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 6: Thank you so much, doctor Monique for all of your insights. Folks,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 6: go to independentwomen dot com to read about what she's
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 6: working on and whatever she has hatching up with the
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 6: Health and Human Services Department to make government a little
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 6: bit better, but especially for patients.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: This is Patrese. I'm wooka in for Kevin on that
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: Kevin Show.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 13: Stick around for more of fact ken next.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 5: Here he is from New York.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: I'm Fact.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 5: Kevin McCullough.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 6: Welcome back to That Kevin Show. I'm Patresea on WUKA.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 6: I'm in for Kevin. So this hour, we've been talking
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 6: a lot about innovation and technology, specifically AI. You know,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 6: we've heard about data centers we've heard about really some
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 6: of the innovative ways that AI is able to make
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 6: our lives better, for us to live longer. That's super
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 6: encouraging stuff. And folks, if you miss that segment with
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 6: doctor Monique Johannan, definitely go back and watch that, listen
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 6: to that clip.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: Definitely follow.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 6: I know you guys are already following Kevin McColl and
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 6: all of his social media platforms.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: Please add to your list independent Women.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 6: Of which I am one of which many of you
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 6: are one, at independentwomen dot org so you can read
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 6: about doctor Johannan's comments there. But I want to talk
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 6: about the polling what do Americans think and feel about
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 6: artificial intelligence and specifically around data sets, because what we
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 6: have to understand is that data centers are what are
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 6: going to power and make possible all of the information.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: Gathering, sorting, analyzing.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 6: And use cases that we use for everything from social
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 6: media to your fitbit or your tracker and your iPhone
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 6: for how many steps you use. You know that information
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 6: can get taken and sent to your doctor to give
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 6: you recommendations about how many steps you need to take
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 6: in a day. So data centers really though, are part
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 6: of that infrastructure that makes technology possible. And what's concerning, though,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 6: is just how there's so much apprehension about data centers
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 6: in America right now. So I just saw brand new
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 6: polling I want to share with everyone here.
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  Speaker 2: This is out of Fox News.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 6: So Fox News polls, this is the headline, cool your servers.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 6: Voters reject data centers. More people, though, are favoring a
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 6: low approach over rapid AI development. Now, Fox News has
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 6: pulled done a national survey of voters asking about their
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 6: perspectives on data centers by a forty point margin, so
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  Speaker 6: thirty seventy to thirty voters oppose building data centers in
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 6: their areas, even if it's to support artificial intelligence.
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  Speaker 2: Let me read that again, folks.
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  Speaker 6: Seventy percent of Americans oppose building data centers in their
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 6: areas to support artificial intelligence. Among MADA supporters, forty six
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  Speaker 6: percent of them actually favorite So I think conservatives are
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 6: more warm to the idea of data centers. Among Republican men,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 6: that's forty five percent. So while while less than half
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 6: of Republican voters like and support data centers in their backyard,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 6: they have a much stronger support than obviously on the
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 6: left we see that those with a college degree really
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 6: opposed data centers. Liberal voters by an eighty percent margin
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 6: opposed data centers. You know, you ask people why they
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 6: support or why they they oppose. Some of the reasons
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 6: people like data centers or shouldn't be too surprising to you, guys. Jobs,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 6: they create jobs, they stimulate the economy, they can be
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 6: the money generated can be reinvested in the community, increases
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 6: the tax revenue base. Others also just recognize that, as
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 6: we've been talking about in this hour, you need data
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 6: centers to power the technological advance in this country. Now,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 6: when you look at people who oppose data centers.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: Why is it? What are they saying?
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 6: Well, half saying they worry about the environmental issues. That's
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 6: their biggest concern here, you know, energy and water usage, pollution, noise,
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 6: that overall environmental impact. That's where most people who oppose
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 6: data centers are coming from. Some also point to kind
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 6: of quality of life concerns. So I'm going to guess
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 6: that it's those people who have big properties, big farms
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 6: in the countryside. They claim they hear the um of
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 6: data centers. I don't know how true that is, but
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 6: I think it's some of those quality of life concerns.
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  Speaker 6: So you know what do I take away from this
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 6: new poll this polling again the takeaway here And folks,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 6: this is Patrese.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: On WUCAM in for Kevin.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 6: We're talking about polling on Data Center's brand new polling.
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  Speaker 6: While most people oppose data centers in their backyard, you
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 6: might be able to win them over, particularly if you
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 6: can get at the type of the issues. If you
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 6: can deal with the issues, address the issues that they
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 6: have concerns about, I actually think the public opinion will change.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: So I'm really excited that. A little bit later.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 6: Coming up next actually in the show, Gabriella Hoffman, who
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 6: is the director of our Center for Energy and in
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 6: the Environment in the Women, She's going to break down
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 6: and really debunk debunk those myths about data centers. Do
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 6: they have an impact on your utility prices? Are they
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 6: draining our water systems? Are they having an impact on
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 6: the overall the energy grid. She's going to actually debunk
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 6: some of the myths around that. And I would love
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 6: to see Fox go back and actually ask the voters
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 6: if you understood that data centers were self supported, so
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 6: they brought their own energy sources, and they didn't rely
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 6: on the community energy sources. If voters knew that electricity
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 6: prices aren't rising because of data.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: Centers, if voters knew.
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  Speaker 6: That, let's say, there would be jobs, and not just
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 6: tech jobs, but actually more traditional jobs like the plumbers,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 6: the electricians, the construction builders who actually have to build
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 6: and maintain these data centers. If they understood that everybody
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 6: wins with data centers and our economy and our society
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 6: moves forward by driving innovation, maybe they would change their
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 6: tumb So this pop Sings following is interesting, but it
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 6: tells me that there's work to do. All need to
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 6: be better educated about data centers, and that's why we've
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 6: got some good experts on today. So I'm Paterresa and
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 6: Luca in for Kevin McCollough on That Kevin Show.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 14: Stay with us here.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 5: He is from New York, exact Kevin mcca.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 6: Welcome back to the That Kevin Show. I'm Patresea'muka in
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 6: for Kevin, and I'm excited to continue this conversation about
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 6: innovation and artificial intelligence as well as what power is
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 6: it By talking about data centers. I know it's a
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 6: boogeyman word to some, but I think a lot of
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 6: us are actually excited about the promise that they hold,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 6: and so I'm honored to have my colleague at Independent Women,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 6: Gabriella Hoffman, who is the director of our Center for
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 6: Energy and Conservation at Independent Women. Gabby is a freelance
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 6: media strategist. In addition, she is award winning writer and
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 6: works with Townhall dot com as a columnist. Plus, you
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 6: must follow her at Gabby Underscore Hoffman with two f's
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 6: and one M on X because she's always posting about
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 6: her travels and adventures in the great outdoors.
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  Speaker 2: Gabby, welcome to the show.
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  Speaker 15: Great to be with you, Patrese and to talk about
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 15: this very very interesting subject. I know there's a lot
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 15: of confusion and alarm over it, so we're happy to
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 15: break it down in calmer terms.
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  Speaker 2: Well, let's do that.
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  Speaker 6: Let's start with some of the misperceptions about data centers.
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  Speaker 6: We have heard that they drive ap utility cost, that
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  Speaker 6: they drain water sources, that they destroy infrastructure.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, no to either of those. What is your take?
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  Speaker 16: I never found myself.
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  Speaker 15: In the position to be a doing pr for data centers,
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  Speaker 15: and I hope those who run the companies if they're
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 15: not already attuned to doing pr for themselves, they don't
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 15: have to rely on folks like us to do it.
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  Speaker 16: But data centers have been around for decades. They're not new,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 16: they're not novel.
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  Speaker 15: They go as far back as the University of Chicago
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 15: to a prototype from the US Army in.
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  Speaker 16: The nineteen thirties nineteen forties. They've been around.
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  Speaker 15: They've been much bulkier, more imposing in the past, and
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 15: as we have now the computing, cloud and innovation and
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 15: just high speed internet, they've just adapted and molded with
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 15: the times and now how they manifest kind of as
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 15: these big as they call them hyper scalers.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 16: A lot of people are.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 15: Surprised by the size of them, even though these new
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 15: prototypes are actually the most efficient since they were first
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 15: brought into the scene. And as we've been assessing at
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 15: the Center so far, preliminary data shows to your question
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 15: of are these raising utility bills, we haven't seen any
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 15: full indication of it.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 16: They could in the future if.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 15: There's no proper grid infrastructure undergirded, but right now we've
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 15: actually seen they've done the opposite effect of actually helping
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 15: to keep utility prices low. What is actually driving utility
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 15: prices low that people should be angry over, as you know,
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 15: Patrisan and we worked on this affordability report together, are
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 15: green policies at the state level, So the federal government
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 15: really doesn't have a impact on utility prices. That is
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 15: your governor, your state legislature, who pick the people in
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 15: charge of your utility commission, who then set the rate prices.
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  Speaker 16: Increases, decreases, mostly decreases.
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  Speaker 15: Sadly, and they have interestingly enough found a scapegoat in
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 15: data centers as well because they can't accept responsibility for
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 15: some of the policies that they've imposed on their populace
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 15: through these different rate hikes. Yeah, in terms of environmentally,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 15: every infrastructure project is going to have trade offs.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 16: Everything is going to consume something.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 15: But if data centers want to be in the good
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 15: graces of communities and funny and i'm patris Until recently
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  Speaker 15: these are approved at the local level, not so much
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 15: the state level, not at the federal level, and there
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 15: was not much opposition.
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  Speaker 6: Let's put a pin in that, Gabby, because I know
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 6: where you're going, and that's a really good point, Like
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 6: where is this opposition being driven from We're speaking with
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 6: Gabriella Hoffman, who's the Center director at Independent Women our
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 6: Center for Energy and Conservation. Before we get to who
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 6: is behind all of this opposition, because I don't think
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 6: it's all just organic. But let's just also dig in
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 6: a little bit about you know, the policies there. You know,
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 6: our data centers you talked about kind of you know,
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 6: they're not necessarily driving energy prices higher, but is there
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 6: a concern and how can that be overcome when it
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 6: comes to things like energy creation? I mean, where is
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 6: the industry moving when it comes to self supporting? I mean,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 6: are they able to generate and be self sufficient rather
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 6: than dependent on local infrastructure?
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 16: I think so.
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  Speaker 15: And we saw in the last week the President really
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 15: going full throttle with his rate payer protection pledge. But
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 15: funny enough, before he unveiled that to ensure that any
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 15: new energy capacity or data center, any new data center,
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 15: he would like to see on a voluntary basis that
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 15: they supply their own capacity or supply their own power.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 15: But this has been actually going on even before the
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 15: President made his pledge public. But he's certainly aware he
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 15: doesn't want the United States to lose on the AI race.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 15: He also wants reliable, abundance, secure energy to be powering
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 15: a lot of these power structures. So he's concerned about
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 15: the rising costs and wants to see community wants to
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 15: see excuse me companies and not just the tech companies
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 15: that everyone thinks of, Google, Amazon and the others, but
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 15: even the smaller providers to bring their own capacity.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 16: And that's a reasonable ask. They were already doing it.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 15: And also within that demand too is the need to
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 15: make sure that the power you're activating online is not
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 15: going to raise the cost. And this goes into the
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 15: opposition question, which we'll talk about in a bit. But
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 15: the reason why you see opposition to data centers is
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 15: because they're largely being powered by natural gas and nuclear,
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 15: and we see this across the energy infrastructure regime that
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 15: we have that renewable power cannot cut it. It cannot
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 15: supply power twenty four seven, even with backup storage. Natural
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 15: gas doesn't have such demands, Nuclear works almost twenty four
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 15: to seven has proper storage and the like. Even coal
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 15: and some of these often vilified sources are having to
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 15: come in because wind and solar just can't deliver the
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 15: power needed to even not only for their own basic projects,
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 15: but even to help supplement power to data centers, which
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 15: is where the opposition comes from. People are very bitter
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 15: that the green energy sources are not delivering to data centers.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 15: You see certain moratoriums and laws because it's.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 16: Not undergirded by so called renewable power.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 15: So it takes a lot of reliable power to make
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 15: these data centers operate. So that is why you see
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 15: this demand for them supplying their own power, which is
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 15: reasonable demand, and to not see those cost pass down
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 15: to consumers and not get special let's say subsidies or privileges,
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 15: although I haven't really seen any, uh let's say robust
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 15: subsidy program like the IRA from the mind and Europe
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 15: giving I mean, gas centers are different.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 6: There shouldn't be, you know, subsidies here if you have
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 6: what you're saying is that you already have industry self supplying.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 6: You have lots of different sources that are more abundant
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  Speaker 6: and reliable than you know.
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  Speaker 2: Your green or clean energy.
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  Speaker 6: I'm putting clean and green in parentheses, sorry in quotation marks, folks,
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  Speaker 6: But it's really more about you know, nuclear and all
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  Speaker 6: those others. So you know, we didn't get all the
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  Speaker 6: way into the opposition. But I know that folks can
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  Speaker 6: follow the work that you're doing at Independent Women, where
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  Speaker 6: you break down some of these opposition sources coming from China,
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  Speaker 6: coming from Russia, coming from overseas. I mean, quickly, what's
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  Speaker 6: your takeaway message about the importance of data centers?
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  Speaker 2: Why should we be supportive of them?
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  Speaker 15: DTA centers are pretty ubiquitous in our life. From every
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  Speaker 15: email you sent, to social media posts that you post online,
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  Speaker 15: it's back to buy data center. That's our interaction with
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  Speaker 15: the data center. Anything digitally is back to buy data center.
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  Speaker 15: So we can't live without it? Can we live with it?
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  Speaker 15: We're learning to live with it, but I think there's
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  Speaker 15: a lot more good than bad with it. So it's
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  Speaker 15: just learning how everything is backed up and a data
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  Speaker 15: center makes our life possible to have these digital interactions.
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  Speaker 6: Thank you so much, Gabriella Hoffain with Independent Women. Folks
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  Speaker 6: follow her on X and we will be right back.
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  Speaker 6: It's that Kevin Show.
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  Speaker 9: Stick around for more Ken next, so bring it up.
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  Speaker 9: It's a no dream from it.
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  Speaker 5: If it's Mead Kevin that show.
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  Speaker 6: All right, welcome back to that Kevin Show. I'm patrin
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  Speaker 6: Son wuka. Thank you everybody for being with me all
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  Speaker 6: day to day. It was that Kevin show takeover and
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  Speaker 6: I was really honored and blessed to be here. And
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  Speaker 6: Philip pretty big shoes, pretty big you know, seat here, microphone.
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  Speaker 6: But you know, let's just just recap what we covered today.
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  Speaker 6: So we started talking about opportunity and your American dream.
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  Speaker 11: You know.
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  Speaker 6: I shared a little bit of my story coming to
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  Speaker 6: this country. Really it's my parents American dream story, you know,
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  Speaker 6: and the fact that they gave up so much but
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  Speaker 6: they've gotten so much from this country in terms of
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 6: opportunity and the ability to make a better life for
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  Speaker 6: their children and now their grandkids.
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  Speaker 2: And funny story.
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  Speaker 6: If you haven't seen this, go to at Patrese pink
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  Speaker 6: file on x I have pin there my trip to
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  Speaker 6: the White House with my two youngest boys, and you
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  Speaker 6: might have caught it.
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  Speaker 2: It went viral.
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  Speaker 6: But my kinder, my first grader, impressed President Donald Trump
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  Speaker 6: by explaining where milk came from. And it was I
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  Speaker 6: did not prep him. He just really just laid out
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  Speaker 6: where milk came from and impressed the President. It was
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  Speaker 6: a fun moment, but it's also just reflective of what
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  Speaker 6: can only happen in America. You know, imagine some a
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  Speaker 6: little girl coming from the Caribbean and one day her
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  Speaker 6: son is meeting the President of the United States in
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  Speaker 6: the Oval Office. It's biblical, it is natural. It is
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  Speaker 6: something about being able to pass on to the next
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  Speaker 6: generation something of importance.
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  Speaker 2: And so we talked about what's going on with the
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  Speaker 2: mid terms.
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  Speaker 6: Why just this fight between capitalism and socialism? You know,
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  Speaker 6: really basically this fight between do you own your future
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  Speaker 6: or does the government own your future and your resources
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  Speaker 6: and your time. That fight is playing out in the midterms,
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  Speaker 6: but it's going to be a long term play, folks.
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  Speaker 6: It's going to be about winning hearts and minds our
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  Speaker 6: younger generations, winning them to understand that that wonderful iPhone
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  Speaker 6: they can't let go of. It is brought to you
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  Speaker 6: not because of communist and socialism. It's brought to you
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  Speaker 6: because of free enter price and we want to protect that.
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  Speaker 6: And then we moved into where we're going as a nation,
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  Speaker 6: and really it's about innovation. It is about being a
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  Speaker 6: leader in innovation and driving innovation that is through artificial intelligence.
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  Speaker 2: We don't need to be scared of it.
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  Speaker 6: This is not going to be like your typical Blockbuster
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  Speaker 6: Will Smith movies where the robots take over and now
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  Speaker 6: you've got to fight the robots. I don't think that's
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  Speaker 6: the future. I actually think it's more like the Jetsons,
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  Speaker 6: where you had Rosie the robot who did all of
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  Speaker 6: your household chores and all the things that you needed
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  Speaker 6: to get done, and you still were industrious. You still
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  Speaker 6: had a job where you still had a business, and
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  Speaker 6: in fact your businesses become more robust, you're able to
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  Speaker 6: create even greater things. And from a wellness standpoint, innovation
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  Speaker 6: is allowing us to live not just longer lives, but
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  Speaker 6: better quality lives, so that we can prepare for our
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  Speaker 6: seasoned years of life, having had the good health and
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 6: the good habits to make that happen. So that happens
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  Speaker 6: because of innovation, and innovation happens when we have data
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  Speaker 6: centers and infrastructure. All of this works together. But I
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  Speaker 6: want to leave you with kindness. There's not enough kindness
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  Speaker 6: in this world, you know. And there's light, I think
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  Speaker 6: the light of Jesus that shines in our hearts and
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  Speaker 6: allows us just to make someone's life a little better
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  Speaker 6: every day.
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  Speaker 2: Listen to this example, My brother do you need to ride?
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  Speaker 1: Do you need a ride?
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  Speaker 3: You're going all the way down?
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  Speaker 1: You want me to give you a ride down all
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  Speaker 1: the way down?
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  Speaker 3: Oh?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I got you.
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  Speaker 3: Man, yes, sir man.
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  Speaker 8: God bless you.
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  Speaker 5: God bless you too.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, thank you Lord for sending him. Oh man, oh Dave,
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  Speaker 3: thank you man. You're welcome.
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  Speaker 1: I hope you have a great rest of your day too.
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  Speaker 3: God bless him. I love bless you.
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  Speaker 2: Now that was so sweet.
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  Speaker 6: I mean two perfect strangers, an older gentleman walking home
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  Speaker 6: with a bag with bags of groceries and a just
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  Speaker 6: a random guy who stopped to give him a ride home.
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  Speaker 6: I think that's what should be in our hearts today,
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  Speaker 6: thinking about other people, not just about ourselves. That is
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  Speaker 6: how we show the world that we are different, that
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  Speaker 6: there is goodness in this world. So I hope that
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  Speaker 6: you will take a cue and past that goodness on.
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  Speaker 6: I'm Patresea on WUKA with Independent Women. Follow me at Patrise,
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  Speaker 6: independentwomen dot com to read more about commentary. Thanks for
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  Speaker 6: joining me for today, as I did this week that
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  Speaker 6: Kevin Show take over