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Normally Podcast: Tucker Carlson, Trump’s MAGA Divide, NYC Homeless Spending & Oscars Fallout · Normally

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Speaker 1: Hey, we're back on normal. The show with normal it
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Speaker 1: takes for winning news getting weird.
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Speaker 2: I am Mary Caston, I am Carol marc O. Wiz.
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Speaker 2: How is your weekend, Mary Catherine?
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Speaker 1: Oh, it's pretty good, other than the fact that we
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Speaker 1: got a bunch of tornadoes coming through here later today.
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Speaker 1: So we're gonna get this podcast done before severe weather.
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Speaker 1: That's ok.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's something you should definitely get done today.
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Speaker 2: Then I tornadoes. You guys get tornadoes. I didn't realize that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the mid Atlantic gets tornadoes occasionally, but this is
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Speaker 1: a little bit of an odd thing. And they're saying
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Speaker 1: it's going to be a strong storm. I guess we'll
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Speaker 1: know by the time this airs.
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Speaker 2: So that's the very all right, we are finally having
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Speaker 2: nice weather. We went to the beach this weekend because
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Speaker 2: you know, summer's finally here after a long, hard winter.
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Speaker 1: Sure it was very hard, very very Laura ingles down
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Speaker 1: there for you guys.
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Speaker 2: We buckled down and wore sweatshirts. You know, we too
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Speaker 2: have suffered.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure. All right, I'm happy for you guys.
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Speaker 2: Thank you. I'm happy you're happy, you know. Okay, all right,
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Speaker 2: let's do it. You know, Look, we like to talk
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Speaker 2: about news that matters here on normally, and I frequently
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Speaker 2: don't think that the podcast Wars is news that matters.
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Speaker 2: But of course it has now kind of taken a
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Speaker 2: turn into actual, possible, real news. Over the weekend, Tucker
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Speaker 2: Carlson said that he was being investigated by the CIA.
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Speaker 2: They were reading his texts with Iran and are quote
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Speaker 2: unquote framing him as a foreign agent. Now, everybody that
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Speaker 2: heard that would like Tucker saying I'm being investigated by
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Speaker 2: the CIA. Everybody was like, oh, because you're a foreign asset.
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Speaker 2: That totally makes sense now, And the thing is that
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Speaker 2: he has behaved so erratically and done so many weird
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Speaker 2: things and flipped his positions so entirely, But even setting
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Speaker 2: that aside, people can change whatever. He's had so many
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Speaker 2: moments that made no sense, Like he had one recently
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Speaker 2: where he said that Saudi Arabia and Qatar had arrested
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Speaker 2: agents of MASAD, the Israeli intelligence agency, who were planning
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Speaker 2: bombings in these countries. Now Saudi Arabia and Qatar. Qatar
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Speaker 2: quickly pushed back and said, yeah, absolutely not, this never happened.
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Speaker 2: But now it's like, did he hear that from Iran,
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Speaker 2: and that's why he shared this false news, because Iran
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Speaker 2: wanted to get a piece of news like that out
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Speaker 2: there and use their dupe in the US to do that. Unclear,
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Speaker 2: but things like that have really, you know, made the
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Speaker 2: rounds in the last few days because of Tucker's commentary.
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Speaker 2: But the thing is because he lies so frequently, like
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Speaker 2: when he lied about being detained at Bengurian Airport in
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Speaker 2: Israel and everybody was like, it's an airport. He went
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Speaker 2: through security and VIP security at that where he posed
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Speaker 2: for pictures. The other more likely possibility is that Tucker
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Speaker 2: is just lying for the hits and the clicks, which
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Speaker 2: he is now wont to do. What do you think, Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I was gonna say that's the There's a couple theories.
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Speaker 1: One that he's just making it up as he goes
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Speaker 1: and that it will get lots of clicks, and it did. Two,
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Speaker 1: he's saying I was texting with Iranians. He doesn't say who,
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Speaker 1: but he goes on in the clip to say this
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Speaker 1: happened to me before with intelligence services when I was
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Speaker 1: trying to set up an interview with Vladimir Putin. So
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Speaker 1: it the analogy would suggest maybe it's someone very high
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Speaker 1: in Iran who he's discussing things with, if that's true
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Speaker 1: at all. But there's also the possibility that he's not
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Speaker 1: being spied on, but that the person he was talking
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Speaker 1: to was being spied on.
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Speaker 2: That's the likely possibility there very story if.
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Speaker 1: The story is too true, that the spying was coming
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Speaker 1: from the other end of the telephone or text line.
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Speaker 1: And then there was a very uh, sort of spy
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Speaker 1: games theory that I love. Yeah, that Trump knew that
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Speaker 1: Tucker was enthralled to the Runians and to some degree
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Speaker 1: and sending them information, So he brought Tucker in remember
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Speaker 1: several times right before the Iranians.
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Speaker 2: Tr January seventeenth, and.
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Speaker 1: You and I both talked about, well, like this would
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Speaker 1: suggest we know that Tucker's going to lobby for not attacking.
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Speaker 1: That's that's all common knowledge. And we thought, well, that
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Speaker 1: suggests maybe he is staying his hand, and perhaps Trump
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Speaker 1: knew that's what that would signal and was using Tucker
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Speaker 1: for that. I'm not sure that I buy that the
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Speaker 1: Intel and the administration were aligned in that way and
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Speaker 1: did that so seamlessly, but it is an interesting theory.
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Speaker 2: I mean I love that theory. Look, I didn't think
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Speaker 2: it was true. I thought the whole time I was like,
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Speaker 2: I think Tucker is just lying. But it was a
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Speaker 2: real fun Sunday to see the possibilities that people were
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Speaker 2: coming up with. Because if the Trump administration did know
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Speaker 2: in advance that Tucker was talking to the Iranians, and
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Speaker 2: if they invited him to the White House to kind
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Speaker 2: of send the signal to Iran that we won't be attacking. Look,
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Speaker 2: we're listening to this guy. It's an interesting theory. And
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Speaker 2: also Tucker on his show a few days ago said,
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Speaker 2: describe what the USA his country allegedly did in Iran
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Speaker 2: as a sneak attack and how wrong that was. And
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Speaker 2: that kind of language lends credibility to the idea that
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Speaker 2: the Trump administration had lulled Iran into a false sense
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Speaker 2: of security by using Tucker Carlson. Is it true? I
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Speaker 2: doubt it.
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Speaker 1: There's also the fact with Trump that he's always sort
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Speaker 1: of just this like the deal guy who is always
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Speaker 1: pushing people in weird directions and signaling weird things, and
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Speaker 1: it all sort of comes together to his benefit often. No,
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Speaker 1: I'm not a like Trump playing five D chess theorist.
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Speaker 3: But maybe, but he does have an ability to know
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Speaker 3: like who the players are, what they want, what everyone's signaling,
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Speaker 3: because he's been doing this for a very long time
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Speaker 3: in other capacities obviously, so I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Interesting.
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Speaker 2: I mean also the fact that Tucker is constantly calling
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Speaker 2: everybody who doesn't agree with him an agent of Israel.
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Speaker 2: Everybody's a foreign agent to Tucker. If he ends up
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Speaker 2: being the actual foreign agent, there's something really just delicious
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Speaker 2: about that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, whenever I read a Candice Owen's tweet, I think
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Speaker 1: every accusation is a confession. Like that's what it feels
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Speaker 1: like to me. There's a there's a group of folks
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Speaker 1: who I'm like, yeah, this seems like the thing pointing
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Speaker 1: back to you a little bit here.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And look, why would he come out with this, right?
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Speaker 2: It either is to draw attention, like to back to
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Speaker 2: his podcast, you know, if there was a dip in
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Speaker 2: conversation where Tucker wasn't mentioned for five minutes and he
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Speaker 2: wants to be back in the news or to get
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Speaker 2: ahead of the story that might be breaking. So we'll see.
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Speaker 2: And again, I'm loath to talk about these people because
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Speaker 2: all they want is our attention. All they want is
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Speaker 2: eyeballs and clicks, and that's all they care about, and
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Speaker 2: I just don't want to give it to them.
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Speaker 1: But this is.
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Speaker 2: Obviously if Tucker Carlson is an agent of BRAN, that
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Speaker 2: would be news, that would be news. Markaputo, who is
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Speaker 2: a Trump White House reporter for Axios, says the story
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Speaker 2: is not true. He says, top admin officials say it's
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Speaker 2: BS and look are they going to tell Markaputo that
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Speaker 2: they're investigating Tucker Carlson. I don't know, he says. Also
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Speaker 2: Mark says DOJFBI is getting a lot of citizen requests
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Speaker 2: to investigate, to investigate Tucker Reefara, So who knows. Right Again,
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Speaker 2: We'll stay on top of this and see what happens.
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Speaker 2: But it's likely just podcaster nonsense where he would like
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Speaker 2: more attention. And I've also said I think he's having
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Speaker 2: some sort of mental break. He doesn't look like himself anymore,
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Speaker 2: he doesn't laugh like himself. I was a big fan
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Speaker 2: of his, I rooted for him. I wanted him to
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Speaker 2: succeed Postbox. He just fell off a cliff and I
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Speaker 2: know people are like, oh, just because he opposes the
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Speaker 2: war in Iran, like, no, I'm sorry. It's not just
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Speaker 2: because he opposes the war in Iran. It's because he
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Speaker 2: seems like a different person altogether. He throws out horrible
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Speaker 2: accusations against all kinds of people. He says things that
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Speaker 2: I think he would have just been shocked at before.
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Speaker 2: He's not the same guy that he used to be.
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Speaker 2: And it's not about Israel either. When he talks about
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Speaker 2: how Jews needs to get DNA tests, or how he
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Speaker 2: alludes to Jews pedophiles, or ties him into Epstein, or
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Speaker 2: says that Israel was involved in nine to eleven, none
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Speaker 2: of that is quote unquote criticism of what Israel is
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Speaker 2: doing in Gaza. It's a completely other level and it's
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Speaker 2: absolutely insane. Like he released a clip from his own
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Speaker 2: show just a few hours ago and he said, why
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Speaker 2: do all of our elected leaders seem to be devoted
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Speaker 2: to serving Israel? And the people in that clip are
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Speaker 2: like Rubio Patel, heg Seth, I mean, Huckabee. This is
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Speaker 2: not questioning Israeli policy in Gaza. This is not opposing
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Speaker 2: the Iranian war. This is something else entirely. This is
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Speaker 2: making horrific accusations against his own fellow countrymen. But also
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Speaker 2: allegedly the people on his own political side, which I
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Speaker 2: don't think he's on the right at all anymore. I
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Speaker 2: mean one of our first mentions of Tucker's most recent insanities.
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Speaker 2: I was a big fan of Tucker Carlson's back when
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Speaker 2: he was a conservative. I don't know he is anymore.
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Speaker 1: My breaking point was when he went to Russia and
10:00
Speaker 1: was like, wow, the technology and living style. I was like, no,
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Speaker 1: thank you, I'm out on this. I did a lecture
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Speaker 1: at Hillsdale College last week while I was there, and
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Speaker 1: it was on the fact that every day, for the
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Speaker 1: rest of our lives in a modern info ecosystem, your
10:17
Speaker 1: job is to figure out what is real and what
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Speaker 1: is not. And it takes a lot of time, and
10:21
Speaker 1: it takes a lot of thinking through what people's possible
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Speaker 1: motivations are. One of the things I think the federal
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Speaker 1: government could do is get serious about who's being paid
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Speaker 1: by foreign entities, because it would be nice to know,
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Speaker 1: and people could make their assessments of those truth tellers
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Speaker 1: given that information. But there's a broader podcast war going
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Speaker 1: on that is just eating up hours and hours of
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Speaker 1: talk time. Is not devoted to policy. It's you know,
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Speaker 1: Candice versus Ben Shapiro. Ben Shapiro and Megan back and
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Speaker 1: forth with each other. Piers Morgan got brought into it somewhere,
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Speaker 1: And one of the things I want to say about
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Speaker 1: Peers More is that in like Megan Kelly's defending Piers
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Speaker 1: Morgan against Ben Shapiro, and it's like she asked at
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Speaker 1: one point, like how many people need to be removed
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Speaker 1: from the conservative movement to make Ben Shapiro happy? And
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Speaker 1: I would just like to point out that Peers Morgan
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Speaker 1: was never concerned ever. Ever, I don't I don't really
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Speaker 1: dislike the guy too much. I understand him for what
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Speaker 1: he is an entertainer, an entertainer, a tabloidy guy, a
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Speaker 1: sometimes interesting thinker who will engage different points of view,
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Speaker 1: and I'm fine with that, but he was not part
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Speaker 1: of the conservative move ever. The Ben Meghan dispute stems
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Speaker 1: from Candice Owens going off a cliff in the wake
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Speaker 1: of Charlie Kirk's assassination and Megan being sort of mystifyingly
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Speaker 1: unable to say that's bad, that the accusing the friends
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Speaker 1: of Charlie of being complicit in his murder is bad,
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Speaker 1: And that's been going on for months now, and now
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Speaker 1: we're to the point where Megan Kelly and Mark Levin
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Speaker 1: are going back and forth for three days fighting. And
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Speaker 1: here's where we get to the news part, Carol, because
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to do the news.
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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I'm not going.
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Speaker 1: To dissect all of that. But here's the thing. Once
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Speaker 1: the President jumps in, that's news with a truth social
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Speaker 1: it is news. So he gets in to referee this
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Speaker 1: thing between Megan Kelly and Mark Levin. You'll remember that
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Speaker 1: Trump and Megan Kelly haven't always been on friendly terms.
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Speaker 1: After that first debate where she asked him really tough
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Speaker 1: questions in two thousand.
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Speaker 2: And I I thought, questions what you're supposed to be
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Speaker 2: asking at the debates.
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Speaker 1: For sure, for sure, And I thought he did not
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Speaker 1: treat her correctly either, and I was mad at him
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Speaker 1: at that time. So Donald Trump says, Mark Levin, a
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Speaker 1: truly great American patriot, is somewhat undersieged by other people
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Speaker 1: with far less intellect, capability and love for our country.
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Speaker 1: Mark is tough, strong, and brilliant. Hence the nickname The
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Speaker 1: Great One, conceived by our maga friend, the wonderful Sean Hannity.
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Speaker 1: After years of dealing with Mark and legal media and
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Speaker 1: other capacities. It goes on and on, but he asserts
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Speaker 1: that when it comes to this group of people who
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Speaker 1: are fighting Mark, they are not MAGA.
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Speaker 2: I am.
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Speaker 1: And MAGA includes not allowing Iran, a sick, demented and
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Speaker 1: violent terrorist regime, to have a nuclear weapon to blow
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Speaker 1: up the United States of America, the Middle East, and
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Speaker 1: ultimately the rest of the world. MAGA is about stopping
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Speaker 1: them cold, and that is exactly what we are doing.
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Speaker 1: God bless our military. Thank you for the attention to
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Speaker 1: this matter.
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Speaker 2: I love the attention to this matter. Yeah. I look,
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Speaker 2: you know, he likes Mark Levin a lot. He likes
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Speaker 2: Benjamin Nett Yahoo a lot. These people are not going
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Speaker 2: to be able to bully Trump into dropping him into
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Speaker 2: dropping either one of those people. And I mean, good
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Speaker 2: for Trump, you know.
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Speaker 1: Well, and it's very interesting for him to lay down
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Speaker 1: the marker that And I think he's right. If you
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Speaker 1: look at polling, there are influential people who disagree with
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Speaker 1: Trump's intervention here. Many of them align with the Vice president,
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Speaker 1: which is another interesting part of a Yeah, but the
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Speaker 1: majority of regular GOP voters are fine with the intervention,
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Speaker 1: fine with the strike may get moody later that they
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Speaker 1: could certainly get critical.
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Speaker 2: Of course we can get more critical.
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Speaker 1: But now, yeah, it is correct to say the majority
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Speaker 1: of them are with Trump, and that the podcast war
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Speaker 1: folks who are not are in they're the outliers, and
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Speaker 1: he's making that clear here.
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Speaker 2: So about JD. Vance, we don't really know where the
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Speaker 2: Vice president stands here. He has not made any public
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Speaker 2: commentary on the podcast Wars. He often pretends not to
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Speaker 2: know what's going on, which I completely don't believe because
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Speaker 2: he is the most online like elected official in the country.
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Speaker 2: I would just say that there have been stories like
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Speaker 2: JD Vance wanted the US to go harder in Iran
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Speaker 2: and stuff like that. I feel like those are placed
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Speaker 2: to challenge this idea that JD's on the outside of
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Speaker 2: the Trump administration. I don't know if he is or
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Speaker 2: if he isn't. My own perspective is I hope he's not.
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Speaker 2: I hope he is actually a part of the decisions
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Speaker 2: being made. I hope he is in line with Donald
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Speaker 2: Trump because he is the president and Vadie's his vice
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Speaker 2: president and they should be aligned on stuff like this.
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Speaker 2: I hope this isn't an actual creator that people imagine
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Speaker 2: it to be. Having said that we have no idea.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's not an implausible or even hypocritical
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Speaker 1: at all position for him to have taken. That would be. Look,
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Speaker 1: I am less pro intervention than you are, sir, but
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Speaker 1: if we're going to do it, let's do it very
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Speaker 1: very fast and very very effectively. So I think that
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Speaker 1: arguing for that might not be a departure from his
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Speaker 1: belief system.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but the only thing I would say about that is,
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Speaker 2: do we think that Trump is like, no, let's not
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Speaker 2: do it fast and do it hard? Like, I know
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Speaker 2: that story made no sense to me because of who
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Speaker 2: Donald Trump is. Like if Donald Trump was George W. Bush,
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Speaker 2: I'd be like, Okay, maybe I think of George softer,
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Speaker 2: you know.
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Speaker 1: But I'm always going to give the benefit of doubt
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Speaker 1: to war fighters who have been in war and for
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Speaker 1: that reason. But they're like, hey, hey, hey, last time
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Speaker 1: we did this, remember what happened? And I think that's
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Speaker 1: a that's a fair take for him to have. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: but yeah, it does. It's interesting to me that Trump
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Speaker 1: is just like, nah, not maga on this one. Guys. Yep. Good.
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Speaker 2: I hope he continues to speak out. I hope he.
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Speaker 2: The other thing is, you know, I mentioned the clip
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Speaker 2: that Tucker put out yesterday about you know, the people
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Speaker 2: in the administration who care more about Israel. I mean,
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Speaker 2: what he's really trying to say is Donald Trump cares
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Speaker 2: more about Israel, and I wish he would grow a
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Speaker 2: pair and just say it. Say what do you actually mean,
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Speaker 2: Tucker Carlson, Say what you actually mean?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, those invites might dry up unless they're useful to
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Speaker 1: them getting information to someone else.
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Speaker 2: Yep. Not sure. He's going to be on too many
16:51
Speaker 2: real estate panels in Saudi Arabia getting paid. God knows
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Speaker 2: what if he doesn't have invites at the White House.
16:57
Speaker 2: We're going to take a sharp break and be right
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Speaker 2: back with more on normally. We are back on normally
17:06
Speaker 2: where the New York State Controller Thomas P. DiNapoli has
17:09
Speaker 2: put out a report about New York City government services
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Speaker 2: for the quote unquote unsheltered that means homeless. He writes
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Speaker 2: that New York City's unsheltered population increased from thirty five
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Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty eight in fiscal year twenty nineteen
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Speaker 2: to forty five hundred oh four in fiscal year twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty five, a twenty six percent increase from pre pandemic levels,
17:33
Speaker 2: and we're getting lots of results, right, Yeah, yeah, just
17:36
Speaker 2: listen to all the results we're getting in that time.
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Speaker 2: Spending on services for the population has more than tripled,
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Speaker 2: growing from one hundred and two million in twenty nineteen
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Speaker 2: to nearly three hundred and sixty eight million in twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty five, a two hundred and sixty two percent increase.
17:56
Speaker 2: It's absolutely bonkers, Like there's just how do you look
17:59
Speaker 2: at these numbers and think that this is okay? And
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Speaker 2: the numbers come out to about eighty one thousand per
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Speaker 2: homeless person in fiscal year twenty twenty five, I mean
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Speaker 2: that is it's more than the Charles Smirklee on X
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Speaker 2: points out that's more than the median New York City
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Speaker 2: household income. Unbelievable, and they're still living in the street.
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Speaker 1: Smirkley also points out he's a data guy, and he
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Speaker 1: points out that New York's spending per homeless person is
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Speaker 1: up one hundred and eighty seven percent since twenty nineteen,
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Speaker 1: San Francisco up one hundred and ninety percent, Portland up
18:34
Speaker 1: four hundred and thirty percent, LA plus four hundred and
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Speaker 1: eighty percent, an average of up three hundred and twenty
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Speaker 1: percent since twenty nineteen. And I have to say, like
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Speaker 1: I was wrong about NGOs there. There was a part
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Speaker 1: of me that was like, hey, handing some of these
18:51
Speaker 1: tasks off to non governmental organizations might be.
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Speaker 2: A better way to serve You need a lot of
18:57
Speaker 2: oversight to do it with the government.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, But it turns out it just kind of feels
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Speaker 1: like we're subsidizing all the bad things that the NGOs
19:04
Speaker 1: are supposed to be helping with, and the NGO people
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Speaker 1: are getting rich or someone's getting rich in the laundering
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Speaker 1: process here, but it's certainly not helping the people that
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Speaker 1: the NGOs tell us that they are very compassionate about.
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Speaker 1: And I know there are people who do do really
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Speaker 1: good work, but man, this is depressing, right.
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Speaker 2: It just feels like what we've talked about on here,
19:24
Speaker 2: scams everywhere, Like where is this money going? It makes
19:27
Speaker 2: no sense that they're spending this much money and not
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Speaker 2: coming anywhere near solving the problem. In fact, the problem
19:34
Speaker 2: keeps growing, it's getting worse. Smirk. Lee also says that
19:37
Speaker 2: the city projects that the number per homeless person will
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Speaker 2: be ninety seven thousand in fiscal year twenty twenty six,
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Speaker 2: I mean one hundred k per homeless person for them
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Speaker 2: still not to have a home. What are we doing here?
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Speaker 1: Sorry for all of you paying taxes like, yeah, it's
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Speaker 1: crazy by the way, that numbers the floor. Yeah, because
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Speaker 1: it doesn't include a bunch of other spending done onmental,
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Speaker 1: car and housing resources that are spent as well. Speaking
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Speaker 1: of scams, you want to hear this one. This is
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Speaker 1: this is from gothamists. So not a celebri leaning publication here.
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Speaker 1: A month after the NYPD reported a one hundred and
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Speaker 1: fifty to two percent spike in reported bias crimes hate
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Speaker 1: crimes in the city, the department has changed its reporting
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Speaker 1: method to one that some hate crime experts say is
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Speaker 1: less transparent and less accurate. In January, the NYPD reported
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Speaker 1: fifty eight bias crimes across the city, up from twenty
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Speaker 1: three in January twenty twenty five, a jump the department
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Speaker 1: said was driven largely by wait for it, a spike
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Speaker 1: in reports of anti Jewish hate crimes. By the time
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Speaker 1: police reported the figures for February of this year, they
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Speaker 1: had changed their criteria for reporting hate crimes. Previously, the
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Speaker 1: department reported hate crimes that were being reviewed. Now it
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Speaker 1: only reports hate crimes that have been investigated and confirmed.
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Speaker 1: You could make an argument for that, but you can't
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Speaker 1: make an argument for changing it mid s, because what
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Speaker 1: happens now is that you cannot compare February of this
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Speaker 1: year in mom Donnie's term. They have to February of
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Speaker 1: last year in Adams's term. And several hate crimes experts
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Speaker 1: tell and academics tell the a Gothamist that actually, yes,
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Speaker 1: this doesn't really capture hate crimes if you're not doing
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Speaker 1: all reported crimes. So way to go, New York.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, good job. And I think that's the point, right.
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Speaker 2: They don't want the comparison because the comparison is not
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Speaker 2: going to be positive, and that's that's a real problem
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Speaker 2: where this is a problem.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a problem in many areas of life,
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Speaker 1: particularly post pandemic. A bunch of schools were like, hey,
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Speaker 1: let's hide the ball about how badly we did by
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Speaker 1: changing the stat gathering so that you cannot compare apples
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Speaker 1: to apples, and it's really unhealthy.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it does a lot of damage to people. We
21:50
Speaker 2: can't solve problems that we can't admit we have my
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Speaker 2: all around mantra all the time. Ye yep, We're going
21:56
Speaker 2: to take a short break and be right back with
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Speaker 2: Moron normally.
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Speaker 1: Oh right, coming back on normally was a little bit
22:05
Speaker 1: of Oscars talk. Look, I don't watch Awards shows, but
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Speaker 1: what I do is go on the internet the next
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Speaker 1: day to learn what happened at the shows. So let
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Speaker 1: me tell you what happened at the Oscars one Battle
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Speaker 1: after another, which is that Leonardo DiCaprio vehicle that was
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Speaker 1: very lefty resistance fantasy played out that.
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Speaker 2: I didn't see it, But if you haven't read Leelle
22:32
Speaker 2: Lebowitz's piece about the movie in Free Press, you absolutely should.
22:36
Speaker 2: Leelle wrote a hilarious takedown of the movie and how
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Speaker 2: terrible it was.
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Speaker 1: Well and even so, it's a Thomas Anderson movie, who
22:44
Speaker 1: is a good director, but I have heard it was
22:46
Speaker 1: not one of his better films. But it did hit
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Speaker 1: all the sweet spots for Hollywood. It was named Best
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Speaker 1: Picture one Battle after another, and he was He got
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Speaker 1: Best Directing, Best Adapted Screenplay. It won six overall centers.
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Speaker 1: Starring Michael B. J got four Oscars. Capeop Demon Hunters
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Speaker 1: got Best Animation Film, Very deserved as well as Best
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Speaker 1: Best Song, and.
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Speaker 2: I've heard the song once or thousand times from my nieces.
23:15
Speaker 1: Right. Frankenstein got a couple of wins. Uh, and then
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Speaker 1: Jesse Buckley was named Best Actress for Hamnett. Amy Madigan
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Speaker 1: won Best Supporting Actress for her role in Weapons One
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Speaker 1: that I actually have seen.
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Speaker 2: Have you seen any of the I've seen zero. I
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Speaker 2: haven't even heard of most of these.
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Speaker 1: I've seen Demon Hunters.
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Speaker 2: It might be because I'm old, it really it might be,
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Speaker 2: but it also might be because I think Hollywood movies
23:37
Speaker 2: have just gotten worse and worse, and I can't watch them.
23:40
Speaker 2: I can't sit through them. They're terrible. I watch old movies.
23:43
Speaker 2: I am old. That's it.
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Speaker 1: It's okay, we can be old. Conan O'Brien hosted again.
23:48
Speaker 1: They did tributes to Rob Bryner, Robert Redford, Diane Keaton,
23:51
Speaker 1: Captain O'Hara. I think I heard that that Robert Duvall
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Speaker 1: was sort of given short shift in the memoriam, and
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Speaker 1: that's not cool. He's like one of the greatest actors
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Speaker 1: of the twentieth century. Okay, two clips I want to
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Speaker 1: play for you so you can get an idea of
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Speaker 1: the good and the bad. Here is the k pop
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Speaker 1: demon Hunter's creator telling us that she's the first Asian
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Speaker 1: person to ever win an oscar or something. Here she goes,
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Speaker 1: and for.
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Speaker 4: Those of you who look like me, I'm so sorry
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Speaker 4: that it took us so long.
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Speaker 1: To see us in a movie like this, but it
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Speaker 1: is here, and.
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Speaker 2: That means that the next generations don't have to go alonging.
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Speaker 2: This is for Korea and for Koreans everywhere. Poly math
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Speaker 2: political math on X did a chart where he wanted
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Speaker 2: to look at every protagonist in every Best Animated film
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Speaker 2: since the award was created in two thousand and one.
24:50
Speaker 2: What he found was eleven of the protagonists were non human,
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Speaker 2: five were Asian, and five were white. So fe like
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Speaker 2: there are some protagonists who are also.
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Speaker 1: John put Hortz noted that just a couple of years ago,
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Speaker 1: and I believe that was a Korean film, Parasite won everything. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: this isn't this isn't exactly rare. One of the sad
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Speaker 1: things about being a progressive is that once you have
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Speaker 1: the MIC and you have your shining moment before the world,
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Speaker 1: you have to declare that all progress before you never
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Speaker 1: existly because it's important to preserve the fiction that we've
25:23
Speaker 1: never done anything for any other minority population ever. And
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Speaker 1: I just I think that, like, by next year, is
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Speaker 1: the K pop demon Hunters win going to be gone
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Speaker 1: from everybody's brain and we'll just pretend that we're starting
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Speaker 1: at zero again, because I don't think we are. On
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Speaker 1: the other hand, we have Jesse Buckley, the best actress
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Speaker 1: for Hamnet, and here's her lovely acceptance speech.
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Speaker 4: You Fred, I love you, man, I love you. You're
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Speaker 4: the most incredible dad. You're my best friend. And I
25:54
Speaker 4: want to have twenty thousand more babies with you.
25:56
Speaker 1: I do, I do.
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Speaker 4: And Ala my little girl who is eight months, who
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Speaker 4: has absolutely no idea what's going on, and it's probably
26:04
Speaker 4: dreaming of milk. But this is kind of a big deal.
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Speaker 2: And I love you and I love being.
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Speaker 4: Your mom, and I can't wait to discover life beside you,
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Speaker 4: Chloe and Maggie. You, to get to know this incandescent
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Speaker 4: woman and journey to understand the capacity of a mother's
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Speaker 4: love is the greatest collision of my life. It's Mother's
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Speaker 4: Day in the UK today, so I would like to
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Speaker 4: dedicate this to the beautiful chaos of a mother's heart.
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Speaker 1: It's really nice. I feel like we are having a
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Speaker 1: bit of a trend toward acceptance species by very famous
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Speaker 1: people that include appreciation for their children and their families.
26:59
Speaker 1: Kuren Culkin is no notable because he kept telling his
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Speaker 1: wife if I win another one can have another baby,
27:04
Speaker 1: having more babies because he keeps sweating awards and now
27:07
Speaker 1: this lovely sentiment. By the way, I think anyone who's
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Speaker 1: afraid of motherhood can look to this woman who is
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Speaker 1: at the absolute pinnacle of her career and has an
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Speaker 1: eight month old baby that it does not have to
27:21
Speaker 1: shackle you. It does not have to be a trap,
27:25
Speaker 1: and it stands in beautiful contrast to who is it
27:28
Speaker 1: Michelle Williams that gave that speech once saying that the
27:31
Speaker 1: reason she was standing before you is because she had
27:34
Speaker 1: an abortion right. Yeah, like, nah, I'm not here for that. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Michael B. Jordan, who I do like very much. One
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Speaker 1: best actor I believe for Sinners and best supporting actor
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Speaker 1: was Sean Penn, who has too many Why is he
27:49
Speaker 1: still winning?
27:52
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think families are back in Disney had apparently
27:55
Speaker 2: a very popular ad during the Word Show where It's
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Speaker 2: which showed a father and son bonding over the years
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Speaker 2: on a Disney cruise. It was a very good ad
28:05
Speaker 2: Mary Catherine, Yeah, said another news. There was some politics
28:09
Speaker 2: at the show, of course, somebody called for a ceasefire
28:12
Speaker 2: and Gaza. I hope that lady gets her news updated soon.
28:17
Speaker 2: But of course very little was said if I had
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Speaker 2: anything at all about the Iranians who are either trapped
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Speaker 2: in Iran as this plays out with the administration killing
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Speaker 2: and maiming people who oppose them, or the Iranian women's
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Speaker 2: soccer team who have requested asylum in Australia but now
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Speaker 2: their families are being kidnapped back in Iran and nobody's
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Speaker 2: speaking out for them. Nobody's wearing a pin.
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Speaker 1: You can really take a stand for them if you
28:47
Speaker 1: wanted to, so they don't have to go back to
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Speaker 1: Handmaid's Tale. But we're not saying anything about that.
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Speaker 2: Much easier to wear a Palestinian flag pin or something
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Speaker 2: and call for a ceasefire that happened months ago. What
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Speaker 2: are you gonna do, Hollywood, gonna Hollywood.
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Speaker 1: There's a couple bright spots there, so good join.
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Speaker 2: No, you're optimistic, I hear you.
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Speaker 1: Hey, you know we're trying to turn a big ship
29:11
Speaker 1: really sized cult problem a Disney.
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