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Left Turns & Cat Turds | Mast Cast Ep 2 · Kenny Wallace Media

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Well, Dad, we're back. We didn't get cancelled, so
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that's always good. There's a lot of great shows out
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there in the history of entertainment that they made.
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They get one pilot, they get one shot at it, and they never go
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any further than that. Granted, it's a lot easier to
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not get cancelled when you're just making your own show and
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uploading it yourself on the Internet, but nevertheless,
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we're still here. It's actually been a really
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great week. We've gotten a lot of great
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feedback here on the Mass cast. Before we go any further, he is
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former NASCAR Cup Series and ORP series.
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We're calling it driver Rick Mast.
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I am his non driving son Ricky Mast.
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And we're pleased to be back with you again.
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A lot of great comments this week, a lot of great feedback.
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So we're of course going to be talking all things NASCAR.
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Here every week. As well as just stuff that's
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going on in our lives or in the Mass families lives.
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As and it turns out it was a, it was a pretty busy week in the
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Mass family. We'll probably get into that
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first. We'll, we'll, we'll get into the
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NASCAR stuff, the stuff in a minute here.
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How was your week, Dad? Let's start.
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That it's great. Couldn't have a but never had a
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better week Ricky. Just glad to be here man.
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Glad to be here with mass class spreading the joy and the wealth
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of knowledge that we have to to our faithful followers.
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That's that's right. That's right.
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Well, all right, this is obviously a NASCAR show, but
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there's a couple stories that just happened to happen to us
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this week that we need to get into.
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So we're just we're just going to get those out.
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We're just going to get those out first.
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OK, All right, so I, I have to tell you, this day, grossest
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moment in my life happened to me this week.
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I'm not exaggerating. So I am.
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My wife is at work, so I'm at home with our daughter Stevie.
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She's 21 months old and I've, I'm watching her for the day.
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I'm letting her kind of run around the house and keeping an
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eye on her. But you know how it is.
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Sometimes you get a little sidetracked or I'm checking
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emails while I'm also watching her.
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And I let my guard down for I mean, we're talking 20 seconds,
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30 seconds. And I noticed that all of a
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sudden she's gotten quiet. And I'm still new with this
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parenting thing. But one thing I have learned is
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if they, if they're like running around all the sudden they get
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quiet, that's usually, it's usually bad news.
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And I look around and I see that she's over near the cat food.
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And I'm like, OK, she's getting into the cat food or something.
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So I go walking over there. I'm like Stevie, get out of the
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cat food. I walk over there and she's next
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to the cat food. She's not in it.
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I look down on the ground. The cat apparently wasn't
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feeling well and left a giant runny, steamy pile of diarrhea
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on the ground. And my daughter has her hand
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firmly planted in it. And it's just all over the
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floor, all over the floor. I run over there.
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I grab her, run over to the sink, start washing it off.
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I scrub her hand multiple times with soap, thankfully only on
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her hand and a little bit on her wrist.
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Thank God not in her hair and thank God not in her mouth or
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nose or anywhere like that. But I will tell you, as I was
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sitting there scrubbing her hand, scrubbing her hand, I was
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thinking, you know, they tell you when you're going to like
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when you find out you're going to be a parent about how amazing
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it is to hold your child for the first time.
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And like when you get home from work and they come running to
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hug you and how and they're exactly right.
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It's amazing. They do not tell you about how
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your your child might use cat shit as finger paint on the on
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the ground. So that was my week.
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Yeah, why did you why did you run her so fast to the sink,
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Ricky? What should I have done as
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opposed? To you should know life on the
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farm when you're born, you know, life on the farm.
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I mean, that's how you that's how you build up resistance to
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everything you're outside. You mess with the hogs and the
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cows and the poops and the sometimes the babies will eat
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it. You know, I think it gives them.
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I'm not sure. Don't give them some resistance
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to things down the road. You drinking out of a water
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hose, you know, maybe. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's.
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About I'm not, I'm just not sure about that.
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I mean, yeah, it was the right response, but you know, that's
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sure that we haven't we haven't what'sified too many things
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here, but not letting your kid. This is Oh yeah.
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I probably shouldn't have said that.
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It probably it's the exact same as letting her drink from the
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garden house. Sure.
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Same immunity, same resistance. So you're you think I should
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just I mean, what is the period of time you let this go on
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before you then cut it? What?
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What point is the immunity build up?
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I mean not a whole, not a whole meal, but a just a little taste,
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you know, just a little, just a little something going in their
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system. Start building up resistance to
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all the world problems we have out here, diseases and stuff.
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Well, you know, I don't know, man.
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It's just, I don't know. You know, I think I think that's
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a great transition to. I want to talk about what you
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were up to this week. So, yeah, what we're, so we're
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actually recording this a day later.
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You needed a you needed an extra day to deal with some stuff.
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So what happened to you? Well.
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The week of the Snowmageddon. What's that?
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Two weeks ago now, right before we did all the work and hooked
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up snow plows and snow blowers and did all this stuff, the
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generators got everything ready. And I was driving down the road
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there doing the Snowmageddon one day and, and all of a sudden it,
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it, my thumb hurt real bad. I like, I pushed, I pushed my
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thumb on something. It was like I had something.
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Anyhow, I looked at it and I think, well, I might have a
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little splinter. Well, I got to look at, I think
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it was a little piece of metal, my metal splinter.
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And so four or five days later, that little splinter in my thumb
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swelled up pretty big. Then it got bigger.
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So we, we stopped by one of those drive through medical
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express deals, you know, where they work on you, I guess urgent
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cares, Med express, whatever. So they went in there and they,
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they shot some lidocaine in there and then just squeezed on
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it and drained the stuff out, put me on a week's antibiotics.
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So we took it was, we're on antibiotics for a week.
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And then this past the end of this past week, by Friday that
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thing really got sore again. It's swelling up.
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By Saturday it was in pretty good shape.
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By Sunday it was like, OK, we got, we got an issue here.
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So between my wife and your sisters, my daughters, you know,
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they just persuade me to go to the ER.
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So I go to the ER, we get up there, they proceed to put all
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the painkiller in it and all that.
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Then they take a knife and slice it open and do all the draining
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and the next thing I know, I'm laying in a bed.
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You know, they say, well, you got to stay overnight.
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So I spent Sunday night Sunday, Sunday night and parsley Monday
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in a hospital bed here locally, getting in with an IV hooked up
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to me with antibiotics running into me to fix, kill or whatever
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is attacking my my thumb. But anyhow, we're out, you know,
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and Thumb's looking better. Probably if I had eaten some cat
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poop when I was a little kid, that may have fixed it.
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But anyhow, there can you see. I was gonna.
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I was gonna. Say I can't.
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There it is. Everybody see, I was gonna set
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out. I was gonna say, yeah, I'm
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surprised all the with everything growing up on the
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farm and whatnot, since you weren't wasified that you hadn't
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built up a natural immunity to. Look, I've had metal splitters,
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steel and fiber. I've had every kind of splinter
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noon man in my fingers, my thumbs, my hands in my lifetime
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never had a deal like this happen.
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So I I'm not really sure. They said a culture did a
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culture on it. So we we haven't heard back yet
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what exactly what sopholithic city is yet.
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Stuff Alephasis. Sure.
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Yeah, that's that's that sounds about right.
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Well, how like actually, yeah. Racing years, you're bound to
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get some stuff like stuck in your hands and and metal working
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on cars. Rex I mean, what from the racing
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years did you ever have anything stuck?
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Like a wreck or something, or just working on cars.
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You know, Actually, Ricky, the year of the great Daytona 589,
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we went down and LED that race to the unsponsored #66 right
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before we left my, I had a piece of metal in my hand, actually on
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the upper side of my hand working on the race car, and it
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got infected. I went to the doctor right
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before Daytona. He cut, He opened it up and cut
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it out, gave me penicillin, Augmentin.
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I took that. We go to Daytona, we leave the
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Daytona 500 first time ever, right, and do all that stuff,
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come back home and it all healed up.
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Then in March, I got a cold, right?
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It's a real bad cold. And so I decided, you know, I
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still have some of these Augmentin penicillin pills in
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the medicine cabinet. I didn't take all of them from
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the hand deal. So I decided to treat myself.
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Well, I did that. Next thing I know, man, I can't
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breathe. I'm itching, I'm all swelled up.
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Run to the doctor. They said what was well, you've
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taken something. I said no, take anything.
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Well, you've taken anything. I said, well, I had some
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Augmentin pills. Ah, you, you were allergic to
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penicillin. I said, no, I'm not.
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They said, yeah, you are. They gave me a shot, man, in
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like 3 minutes. I was in good shape.
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So from that moment forward, I become allergic to penicillin.
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Right. So, so anyhow, that's, that's
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the, that's the medal in the hand story.
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OK. Well, between all of that and
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then mom texted us in the family group chat today, which we which
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is named mast holes by the way, we change it every December to
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May a Chris mast, but the rest of the year it's just the mast
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holes thread. So I'll I'll just read some of
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this text because it's kind of hard to do it justice without
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she goes. I was Browning some pork chops
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for a crock pot recipe and as usual, the house got a little
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smoky. So I cracked open some windows
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and sliding glass door and went upstairs to get ready for my
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nail appointment. I came back downstairs and the
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cats were going bat crap crazy running around knocking stuff
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off on counters off the table and counters as I'm standing
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there trying to figure out what's going on and then a bird
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flies by me. So basically she cracked open
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the window, a bird got in the house.
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The cats are chasing the bird around kind of like Snotts
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chases the squirrel around in Christmas vacation.
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We found out later the bird had crapped on her, I think, washer
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and dryer till finally she was able to, you know, open up a
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window, let the bird out. So between my daughter with the
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finger paint with the cat crap, you going to the hospital with
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an infection and mom letting birds fly around inside the
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house, it's been an eventful week for us.
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Yeah, the. Other party.
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Yeah, the funny part about that, Rick, she calls me.
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She calls me like what? What?
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You know, what the hell am I supposed to do about a bird
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flying? While while the bird is in the
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house. Yeah, I'm not close.
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I'm 20 miles from home. Right.
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While the bird was flying around and in these parts, she wasn't
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hysterical, but she was almost hysterical laughing, right?
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Because the cats, the cats running across the counter is
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knocking stuff off everywhere is like, just like the dog in
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Christmas vacation. The cats were going crazy.
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So that funny little deal today? Yeah, well, so there you go.
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With the class being postponed, we still have plenty of going on
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in our our personal lives. But I think we've spent, we've
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spent a good, good amount of time going all through that with
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everybody. So we'll get into the NASCAR
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stuff. So as we're taping this on
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Tuesday night, Clash is scheduled to go tomorrow night.
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I don't know. I haven't looked at the weather
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report. I did see some tweets they're
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saying there could be a little more precipitation to dodge
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tomorrow night. I don't I've looked at it.
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I'm just, I am just as I usually do with NASCAR or any sporting
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event I'm going to, I am just proceeding as if it is going to
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happen and put good positive vibes out there and just assume
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it's going to happen. So, so with that being
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postponed, the number of cool little things that came up as a
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as a result of that, I did see where NASCAR put out a, they're
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doing a refund for folks who had we bought tickets, which I
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thought not just a refund. You can get a full refund or you
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can get 120% refund where you got your money back plus 20%
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towards a race that attract another track that NASCAR owns
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other than I think Daytona 500 and the the championship race at
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Homestead. So I thought that was pretty
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cool. I also thought it was pretty
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cool. I think Ricky Stenhouse and Todd
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Gillan showed up at Bowman Gray to help shovel snow out of the
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stands. I don't know if you saw that,
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but I thought that was that was pretty cool and a good way for
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drivers to get themselves out there and get a little goodwill
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good vibes going around them and their personalities.
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So thought that was pretty cool. But I did want to talk about
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just with the the clash. So I enjoyed it last year at
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Bowman Gray. I said that last week, looking
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forward to hopefully seeing it tomorrow night.
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But all this talk around the class now with the weather and
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the weather, you know you can't control that.
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You have a big Blizzard come through me we supposed to do,
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but there's a lot of talk around the class about what should
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happen with it. Should it move around each year?
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Should it go back to Daytona? Should we have it at all?
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I'll tell you. For me, the Clash, when I was a
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kid, I like the Clash because it was kind of like the start of
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speed week at at Daytona, speed weeks.
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But really. But I believe when we were
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coming along, when I was coming along, the Clash was, correct me
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if I'm wrong, Clash and Daytona 500 qualifying were both on the
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Sunday before Daytona 500. So one week before.
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And I actually like this term. I saw Dale Junior tweeted this
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out there today. The old, the original form of
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the Clash, it was just 20 laps at the start of the week.
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And it was like a good appetizer to the week at Daytona.
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And I agree with that. So I always kind of liked it
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just because to me, whether the Clash itself, whether the race
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was good or not, it was always kind of a cool little kick off
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to speed week at Daytona. But that's that's been a number
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of decades now. You know, it's a different time
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and what the clashes kind of morphed into is something a
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little bit different. It's meant to be a big
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entertainment event to kick off NASCAR season to get interest
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around the sport and all that good stuff.
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So what would let me just start with this.
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What would you do with the Clash?
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Would you move it? Would you send it back to
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Daytona? Would you replace it?
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What would you do? Well, first let me say how glad
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I am it's at. It's at Bowman Gray and not out
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on the West Coast, right? Another one of those deals we
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try see how it works, throw it out there, see if it sticks or
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not. But you know, it just I'm just
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glad it's back at Bowman Gray instead of in LA.
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OK, that's number one. Number two, if I had my
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preference and my choice, it would be at Daytona would be
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back like it used to be. The problem with that is I spent
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my whole career, well, when we're at Daytona, I spent my
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whole career at Daytona. Or each time we're at Daytona,
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you had to bud, shoot out our Bush Clash.
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You know, you had to qualify and you had to ARCA race.
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Then you had a week of doing all this other stuff, getting ready
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for the 500 between the qualifying and qualifying races,
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and it was just such a big, big frigging deal to be at Daytona
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for two weeks and all the hoopla and all the stuff around that.
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So to me that was, I mean the Bush Clash, but shoot out, that
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was just part of that, that environment, right?
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Or that's part of that. What was that show for two
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weeks? And that was just a very, very
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big, exciting part of it. So to not have it there.
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To me, it's just, you know, it's not it's like, you know, I but
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we're in a different time now. We're in a different area now.
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So, you know, I don't know, I think being at Bowman Gray is
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great. You know, I think it should be
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somewhere centralized where they could move it around somewhere
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else they want to. That's fine.
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I think, you know, the Madhouse has proven weekly for 80 years
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to be to put on a good show. I'm not sure that's the best for
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a cup cars, but it still can be exciting.
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And of course we all know the Madhouse Madhouse is exciting.
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Nothing wrong with that. So, you know, to answer your
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question, Ricky, to me personally, I'd rather be at
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Daytona with this thing. But again, that goes back to all
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the old feelings and all the things.
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And then that brings us into, you know, I was thinking today,
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you know, what's what's really changed our sport a lot.
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That was let me let me hold that thought.
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Why don't you go ahead into whatever else you're going to
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talk about. No, go ahead.
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I want to hear, I want to hear what you I want to hear what
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you're going to. Where were you going?
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I was just thinking today, COVID really, really, really changed
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our sport a ton. If you remember, we were the
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first professional sport to go back on the field, man.
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All right, when, when COVID shut down that year, everybody shut
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down. NASCAR was the first
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professional sport to get going again.
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And how do we do that, right? We had no fan access, right?
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The only people could show up are the competitors and they
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were limited, you know, the, the, the, the, the teams that
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showed up, they were very limited of a NASCAR.
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The amount of people that could come, you'd show up, you'd
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unload the car, you line it up and you start racing, right.
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That was a whole, whole whole different 180° different
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direction of racing from the way we've always done it for 50 or
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60 years. You know, you cut out the two or
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three days of practice and qualifying and the fan
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interactions and, you know, the souvenir stuff and all the stuff
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that goes, the hoopla around the event.
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It took the event out and made it nothing but the race itself.
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And when we came out of COVID, I mean, that's the reason today
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that we have very, very, very limited practice, right?
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That's the reason today. We're only at the racetrack for
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two days most of the time, right?
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When you get there Saturday and Saturday and you race on Sunday
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and it all, it all started back with the COVID thing.
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And, you know, I think we forget about that now.
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Is that good or bad? I don't know.
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I think, you know, and again, I go back to what we used to be,
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man. And that was showing up on
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Thursday and Friday in just three days or four days.
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Three days really. I mean, each week, not Daytona,
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but everywhere else. You just, you know, you're just
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out there. The fans are out there.
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It's a weekend experience and again, the souvenirs of the fans
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deal and all the things you do in autograph sessions and
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everything that surrounds event. So much of that stuff went on
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each and every weekend at every venue we went to.
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We don't do that any longer. You know, it's it's mainly get
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there and run the race, you know, and get away now.
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The tracks have done a good job making the tracks nicer for the
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fans. You know, I Daytona, Richmond,
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all these places rebuilt these tracks, rebuilt the grandstands,
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the fan experiences, Vegas, all the stuff they do is it's much
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better that part of it's better for the fans.
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But you know, COVID didn't really change the, the, the, the
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way our sport is run right now, you know, better and worse.
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I don't know. It seems to be working pretty
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good. But it was, it was, it was.
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It was cool before. It's cool still.
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But you know, COVID is the reason we did all this.
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Well, I think there's just there's a lot you have to
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there's a whole lot to consider because I think you and I and
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most people like all the everybody we came up with like,
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I mean, I say we like meaning it's a traveling circus now is a
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traveling circus then. So when I say we, you know, I'm
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not, I wasn't a competitor, but I think about like, you know,
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we're parting in the motorhome lot.
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We're part next to the Presley's every week and like your buddy
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straighter and then the family, everybody that was part of it
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then. Like I think it's hard to you
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just no matter what you do, if you set everything up exactly
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the way it was back then schedule wise and everything
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else. I don't, I don't know that that
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it still doesn't bring back that feeling for us.
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I don't think just 'cause you can't, you can't replicate
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something you can try to get. New generations that have their
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own version of that. I think there's things to take
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in. I'm, I'm playing devil's
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advocate a little bit here because I tend to lean towards,
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to me, like with you, I tend to agree with you that I think if
20:33
you're going to have a show, you're going to have an event,
20:37
these to start on on Friday, practice qualifying, whatever.
20:41
However you want to do a practice on Friday, qualify on
20:43
Saturday, However that works. But an event each week.
20:46
Now, on the flip side, I, I don't know how many events we
20:48
had by the time you retired in O2.
20:51
I know when you first came in, in 91 to the Cup Series, I think
20:55
there were 29 points paying races, not 100% on that, but
20:59
close to it. And if you factor in the clash
21:02
in the All Star race, let's call it 31 events nowadays, you got
21:06
what, 38? So you're talking about two
21:09
months more of time and also the right the sport.
21:15
I mean, the costs have gone through the roof.
21:19
So you're talking about two months more time and also two
21:21
months probably more importantly here, but I mean it all comes
21:24
down to money, two months more worth of stuff you got to pay
21:27
for. So I and I don't know, I don't
21:29
know if I, I assume that cutting it down to a two day deal for
21:32
the teams help save some expenses and costs.
21:35
I would think it would have to. I don't know I you.
21:38
Know. Yeah, it does.
21:39
Yeah. Let me break you in here.
21:40
I didn't mean it that was wrong. I was just saying it's a fact of
21:45
of a big change in our sport and what what happened, what caused
21:48
that, you know, for better or worse.
21:50
I mean, I don't, you know, I wasn't saying that.
21:52
I was just saying, you know, their thing really changed from
21:55
that. And yeah, it does save a lot of
21:56
money. It saves a ton of money for the
21:58
teams. Ricky Believe.
21:59
I'll tell you. I'll tell you a funny thing
22:01
about the COVID deal. So my wife and I went to the
22:05
Atlanta race as the first Atlanta race in 2021.
22:11
So we're coming out of COVID. We're not.
22:14
Fully out of it yet, but. Spectators are able to attend.
22:16
So it was a deal where we bought our tickets and we were like in
22:19
our own little pod kind of if you want to call it that.
22:22
Basically they had, they sold, I don't know what capacity of the
22:25
place they sold, if it was a third, half a quarter, whatever
22:29
it was, but you could buy tickets and go and sit in your
22:33
own little area or whatever. But one cool thing they had done
22:37
was they had Jeff Foxworthy come out and do like stand up comedy
22:41
on the front stretch for all the fans there before the race.
22:45
But I remember texting you about this afterward.
22:48
The parts we could hear were really funny.
22:52
But because of some COVID deal, they had all the cars that were
22:55
already lined up on Pit Rd. and throughout Jeff Foxworthy's set.
22:59
The crews were coming out and firing the things up and revving
23:02
them and revving them and revving them.
23:04
And so Jeff Foxworthy's going into a bit and then you you
23:07
still hear half of it because you're hearing the cars a bit.
23:10
And I remember texting you. I'm like, I don't remember ever
23:12
this happened. And like when the cars were
23:14
lined, when the crews pushed them out on pit Rd. it sat there
23:17
and it didn't start up again until gentleman starts your
23:19
driver starts your engines. So I think, I guess that was
23:22
some COVID deal that just triggered in my brain.
23:24
Yeah, a lot of things changed, a lot of a lot of procedures when
23:27
race day changed and weekends changed for that.
23:29
So they were still working out that deal and Foxworthy was
23:31
there, I guess. Yeah, I think so.
23:35
Well, the, the goal though, should be whether it's you get
23:40
there Friday, you get there Saturday, whatever it stood, it
23:42
should still feel like I we're we're coming into town and we're
23:46
taking over this weekend. This is a weekend event.
23:48
This is an event with not just with the race being the the
23:52
culmination of it, the peak of it.
23:54
There should be a whole bunch of other stuff that builds up to
23:57
it. I'm not saying they're in now,
23:58
but that should be the just from why I've experienced and
24:01
witnessed that should be that should be the goal.
24:05
A couple let's let's circle back to the clash real quick.
24:09
So I I think one thing that that happens, one thing that has
24:15
changed is the NFL schedule has expanded.
24:18
So then the Super Bowl keeps getting pushed further into what
24:22
was back in your day, the traditional speed weeks, plural
24:26
territory. So that's had to, that's caused
24:28
NASCAR to move some things around where the Clash is now.
24:31
You know, we got the Clash, then Super Bowl happens, then Daytona
24:34
the next week as opposed to the Clash being on that Sunday
24:37
before the 500. So if it were me and I'm trying
24:40
to recreate that speed week thing because I will tell you to
24:43
me, that was always one of my favorite times on the the NASCAR
24:47
calendar was every year when we come into Daytona.
24:51
I would that was always a even just for me.
24:54
It was a special feeling going through that tunnel for the
24:57
first time for the start of new season because it's like clean
24:59
slate. Everything's new, new paint
25:02
schemes, new teams, new this new that, like it's anything could
25:05
happen. You have high hopes, all that
25:08
good stuff. I still have one image in my
25:10
mind. This had to be from one of your
25:11
first couple of years in Cup. I don't know who I was riding in
25:15
with, but we came in through the tunnel at Daytona and it was
25:18
during practice and it just so happened the right after we came
25:21
up out of the tunnel, I looked through the window and the first
25:23
car that came flying by on the track was you.
25:26
And that was like just a really cool memory to me.
25:29
And I still, you know, when we went to Daytona, we went as a
25:34
family first time. We'd been to Daytona for the 500
25:37
and God, decades, I guess. We went a couple years ago, 23 I
25:43
think, and it was still cool coming through that tunnel.
25:45
Of course now they got another tunnel on down there towards
25:48
turn one that wasn't there when we were there.
25:49
So that was that was different coming through that one.
25:53
So if it were me and I'm trying to recreate that old speed week
25:56
feeling because it just had a different feel to it.
25:58
And you're trying to make this a week long event.
26:02
I don't know if if a prime time event on like a Monday works.
26:06
I guess we'll get a little experiment tomorrow with the
26:08
Wednesday event with the Clash. I I would look at maybe if
26:11
you're going to move it back to Daytona, I would look at doing
26:13
something like that. Maybe it's a this kicks off the
26:16
week and it's kind of like what Dale Junior said.
26:19
It's an appetizer. One thing was interesting.
26:22
I saw this this graphic floating around.
26:24
Now, granted, this is the Internet and I didn't vet it, so
26:26
I'm going to assume it's it's right.
26:28
It was all of Dale Earnhardt seniors finishes in the class
26:31
from 1980 all the way through 2001.
26:33
And what stuck out was not that, you know, he felt he finished.
26:37
He finished 12th once. Other than that, he never
26:39
finished worse than 4th and more often than not he won.
26:43
But what was interesting was the number of times he wasn't in the
26:47
clash. So think about that.
26:49
So if this graphic is is correct, and I'm sorry I didn't
26:52
vet it, but let's just assume it is because this is this, it
26:55
probably is because this is how it worked back then.
26:57
If you want to poll the year before you got in, otherwise you
27:01
didn't or there would be like a how you made it in 89 where
27:05
there's there was little like kind of AI don't want to call it
27:08
a not a wild card, but you would have like a way.
27:10
There was a secondary way guys could get a spot and you can one
27:14
guy with the second round fastest each week and they draw
27:16
at the end of the year for one person.
27:18
So yeah, one other person could get in.
27:20
Yeah. And so that's big.
27:21
That's that's another thing that that changed a long time ago.
27:23
There used to be a couple rounds of of qualify, but for the most
27:28
part, you want to pull you're in it.
27:29
You didn't or you weren't second round fastest and you got lucky
27:33
with the draw, you weren't in it.
27:34
So if this this graphics right, Earnhardt was in it in 80,
27:38
missed it in 8182, ran 83, missed 8485, missed 89 and 90,
27:45
missed 9899 and 2000. So if you go back to the old
27:50
format, you run the risk of some of your stars or in that case
27:54
your biggest star not being in the event that you're kicking
27:57
off your season with. So I don't think you can go back
28:00
to, I think you can go back to the format.
28:03
I don't think you want to set up a deal where from a competitive
28:06
standpoint, I like it the old way.
28:08
I think it was cool that it was that way, but this is a
28:10
different time. I don't think you can have your
28:12
first prime time network TV show of the year and run the risk of
28:16
not having your your biggest stars.
28:18
I What do you think? No, you're exactly right.
28:20
It's a different time for that. You can't what was the first?
28:24
What do we have like 8 guys in it one year or ten guys, 8 guys.
28:29
It was I it was pretty low number, maybe the first couple
28:32
years. I forget what the number was.
28:34
But anyhow, you can't. Yeah, it's a different deal.
28:36
It's a different era. What we're doing right now is
28:38
totally different. A lot of things.
28:40
And there's no way we can just have this shootout with just the
28:43
pole winners from last year. It it wouldn't work.
28:46
And you're exactly right, Rick. And we don't, you know, there's
28:48
not enough guys in it to to make that draw for TV.
28:51
You know, it's fun for everybody being there or fun for the guys.
28:56
It's fun for the guys that get in because they know they're
28:59
only a handful, right. Everybody else is sitting over
29:01
the garage watching and wishing they were you right now.
29:04
But those days are over with. I mean, so the way, yeah, I
29:07
think that part, no matter where they'd race it, I think that
29:10
part they kind of got to leave the way they got it right now,
29:13
you know, try to get as many guys in as they can.
29:16
I think that and I think that's and we're we're kind of saying
29:19
it, but I'll, I'll just lay it out there again.
29:20
I think that's really the biggest difference there.
29:22
You can I'm cool with it coming back to Daytona, if they want to
29:25
do that, whatever they want to do that, that's all good.
29:27
I think the one thing that is just fundamentally different is
29:30
back in your time, it was a cool event.
29:33
It was a a cool little badge of honor to be in it.
29:36
That means you had you did something cool the year before.
29:38
So that gives you the chance to participate in this cool event.
29:41
But it wasn't the big like this is the first prime time big
29:46
event. It was a cool like like it was
29:49
like a cool little mini race, like a heat race almost or a
29:51
little Sprint race to to kick off the season.
29:54
And I don't remember. I don't know this because I
29:57
there's some of the early Bush clashes I've never seen like the
29:59
ones from before I was born when it first started.
30:02
I don't know that I've probably seen one of them, two of them,
30:04
but not all of them. But I also would guess there
30:07
probably weren't rec fests back then.
30:09
There probably weren't, you know, a lot of torn up race cars
30:11
in those deals. I don't remember there being
30:13
much of A torn up many torn up race cars in your day, to be
30:16
honest. That's something else that I
30:18
think has changed a little bit in terms of it being at.
30:21
Daytona I will tell you one time we would when you'd been in the,
30:27
the the Clash, you would. They'd always do a dinner the
30:30
night before and pretty big deal.
30:32
They give you gifts and all kinds of things.
30:34
And most of the time, a lot of times that's where you drew a
30:36
pill to see where you'd start, right.
30:39
And we would all get up there and we'd have to talk in front
30:42
of the audience. And, and anyhow, one year we're
30:45
up there, we're talking and I got to related about being in
30:48
the class year before. And I was telling them about the
30:52
thing. The race got started and we were
30:53
racing along there and talking about what it meant to be in the
30:57
class of what, how kind of how prestigious it was.
31:00
And to win the class was a big deal, man.
31:02
I mean, it was a big deal to win that thing.
31:04
It's a big deal just to be in it.
31:05
And if you want it, it was a really big deal.
31:08
Well, so guys would take chances and do things you didn't see
31:11
them do normally really run along.
31:13
I don't know, maybe halfway through the race, you know, and
31:16
I'm too little long. We're going down the backstretch
31:18
and doing the drafting deal. And I look up and guys go like
31:24
four or five wide in front of me, right?
31:28
I'm by myself, right with this, all these guys, we're all
31:31
together. And all of a sudden guys swing
31:33
down, I look up and they're they're right dead in front of
31:35
me. Four or five wide.
31:37
I'm not sure. What's the four or five?
31:39
Well, there's a dude behind me that was in the draft also had a
31:43
little push and he went by me and went to the very bottom.
31:47
And this is before you go, but go below the yellow line deal,
31:50
right penalty. He gets to he he's going.
31:53
So he's going to pass these dudes at the end of the back
31:55
straight away, right? He gets below the yellow line.
31:59
No way he's going to make it. There's this absolutely no way
32:03
he's going to make it because we're we're at the end of the
32:05
straightaway and this and of course we go in and turn into 3
32:09
into turn 3 and he's on the apron basically and comes up and
32:14
guys get wiped out right. It don't work.
32:16
And the thing of it is this driver was probably the most
32:20
controlled driver, one of the most controlled ever raced
32:23
against one of the best I've raced with one of the safest to
32:26
race around one that you wouldn't I didn't I could I
32:29
would be on any side of this guy, not worried about him
32:32
wrecking me. I would, you know, very secure
32:36
race around this guy and everybody else felt the same,
32:38
same way about him and his whole career.
32:40
He's never like it. But because it was a it was a
32:43
the, the shootout of the class, you know, he did something that
32:47
typically he doesn't do right. And just because you wanted to
32:50
try to win that race. It was wild.
32:52
And I remember sitting there telling the story, a reporter,
32:55
somebody asked, well, who was it?
32:56
Who was it as well? I don't really want to say his
32:59
name, you know, but I but sat beside me was Mark.
33:03
Mark. I said, do you hear anything
33:04
about that, Mark? And he started grinning and
33:07
laughing, right. So it was our buddy Mark Martin
33:11
that done that right? And it was it was funny as the
33:14
Dickens the way it come off. But you know, again, Mark, one
33:17
of the best ever was and one of the guys who just didn't do
33:20
stuff like that, but he did it because it wasn't it was a
33:23
shootout or the clash, right. And what was on the line for
33:26
that? So pretty cool.
33:28
He was, from what I remember just watching, he was about as
33:30
clean and as anybody out there. I don't even remember that.
33:33
I don't ever remember him starting anything.
33:37
I mean, I'm sure every driver at some point, you, you, you, you
33:39
make a mistake or whatever and you start something.
33:41
But he's the one that's like, yeah, I don't remember that.
33:44
That's amazing. If he if he if Mark Rechi, it
33:47
was a bad mistake on his party. You really, really, really had
33:50
to screw up to get him mad. And even then that that Mark was
33:53
never one team to retaliate. You know, he would talk about it
33:56
afterwards. So yeah, he's one of the good
33:59
ones, man. Let me ask you this.
34:02
You've talked about, you referenced it earlier, 1989,
34:06
that was your first Daytona 500. I think, I think for you that's
34:10
probably maybe a standout moment of your Cup career,
34:13
understandably so. Like I, I, I think that's, I
34:16
think you and I have talked about this before.
34:18
And if you had to pick one moment for you, I think that's
34:20
the one you you've talked about before as being like the, IT was
34:24
just a really, really cool moment for you and your career.
34:27
The Clash, Correct me if I'm wrong, unless you can tell the
34:30
story was the clash not there? Wasn't that the reason you ended
34:33
up with with a ride for the 500? Tell that story.
34:37
Well the year before I had subbed for Buddy Baker in two
34:39
races, 1988. I'd never been in a cup car
34:42
before and Buddy got hurt and so my first time ever in a cup car
34:46
was in the 88. Red Baron owes will bail it
34:50
Bristol. Then the next week I ran
34:52
Darlington for buddy and relief for buddy.
34:54
So in those days we had two two days of qualifying first round,
34:58
second round, everybody qualify first round, second day from
35:02
21st all the way back to 50th or whatever.
35:05
Those positions weren't filled. So you we had a second round
35:07
qualifying deal. So everybody would would qualify
35:11
second day, right Re qualify for like 21st back and whoever is
35:17
the fastest of course would start 21st and and so on.
35:19
Or you could stand on your time gets gets gets really gets
35:23
really confusing. But at the end of the year,
35:25
everybody had second round fastest during the races, which
35:30
I did at Darlington. They put your name in a hat.
35:34
And when they go to the Waldorf for the points deal, the awards
35:37
banquet, they would reach down and pull that name out of the
35:39
hat. And that would be the alternate
35:41
or that would be the next AD or the add on ad in for the Bush
35:45
class for the next season. And they pulled my name out of
35:49
the hat right from winning the second round fastest at
35:52
Darlington. That's how I got in to be in the
35:54
Bush class. Well, The funny thing is Ricky,
35:56
in those days, this thing was so prestigious.
35:58
Every had a lot of guys call me. Lot of team owners, I mean
36:02
prestigious team loaders, man called me want me to drive their
36:06
car because let's and let's just set the scene for everybody.
36:09
You filled in those two races in 88 for buddy.
36:12
That was it. You didn't have a cup ride for
36:14
89. You're still in the what was
36:16
then the Bush Grand National series, what is now the the
36:19
O'Reilly series. So you so that's that's why I'm
36:23
going to say you, you know that they got you in the 500 because
36:26
you were still full time Bush guy at that.
36:28
Point right right and again the thing was so prestigious you
36:33
know had all these owners call me when we drive one of their
36:36
cars in the Bush some of them couple of their driver had won a
36:40
pole so he wasn't in the Bush class and a couple of them were
36:42
in the Bush class. They wanted to put another car
36:44
right just because the thing was so prestigious and I ended up
36:49
going and and names that everybody knows too, right.
36:52
So I ended up I ended up doing it with Travis Carter.
36:55
Travis had just split up the year before with Harry Ganton
36:58
Skull. Harry Ganton skull left and they
37:00
went with Leo Jackson. Travis was left with the race
37:03
team without a sponsor, but he had a little money and had
37:06
another guy that bought into the team.
37:09
I decided to do it with Travis for a couple reasons.
37:11
Number one, at that time Travis was really hungry man.
37:14
He he was really wanting to sue the world.
37:16
His race team was OK. You know, that was one thing.
37:19
The second thing was he was going to, we were going to run
37:22
the Bush class. He was, we were going to run the
37:24
Daytona 500. He gave me that and he gave me
37:27
the next three races. He guaranteed me the class, the
37:29
Daytona 500 and we run the next three Cup races.
37:32
No other team owner would do that or could do that.
37:34
So that was the reason we did that.
37:36
And of course the rest of it's history, man, we go down there
37:39
and the cars just flawless all weekend.
37:41
We run good. The Clash, we finished, I don't
37:44
know, 5th, 6th or 6th or 7th. You know, the 500 we get in that
37:48
thing, we qualify. I think it was like 7th for
37:51
that, finished 6th or 7th, LED a lot of the race.
37:53
You know, that was the race that really got me known to I guess
37:57
America because it was a broadcast race on CBS.
38:00
But most of the people in the garage by that point knew who I
38:02
was. But that just kind of
38:03
solidified, solidified me in the in the Cup garage as far as that
38:07
goes. But it still took a couple of
38:09
years to get going in the Cup Series.
38:11
So your first, obviously you had practice in qualifying and you'd
38:15
run Daytona in the Bush Series, but your first competitive laps
38:20
against other cars on the track was in the 1989 Clash at
38:24
Daytona, right? What do you remember?
38:27
And I know we're going back a long way here, but do you
38:29
remember kind of how how you were feeling coming into that
38:32
and getting out there on that track going against those guys
38:37
at that level? I mean, competing in a Daytona
38:39
in a Cup car for the first time or it was not really is it's
38:42
nothing stand out of just the I mean, what what do you remember
38:46
about that running that Class 1? Of the silliest things, Ricky,
38:50
we would in those days, the Bush Grand National cars, we would
38:55
show up that racetrack, you know, that Saturday, Friday or
38:58
Saturday, whatever it is of the weekend, of all that stuff going
39:02
on. They would park us on the
39:03
backstretch right outside Turn 3 up on the grass all like there,
39:09
there's a racetrack, there's a wall, there's a fence and right
39:12
behind that on in the, in the going into end of the back
39:14
straight away was a field. And that's where we'd all park
39:17
and that's where they do inspections on our Bush cars out
39:20
in the Dankin field, right. And there's some, there was some
39:23
grandstands back there, like metal grandstands that I
39:26
remember a lot. State police would be back
39:28
there. They they let state police
39:30
working the race be back there. Well, whatever, we were all back
39:34
there with the Bush series. We would all get sit there and
39:37
watch the the Bush clash, right, And also watch the ARCA race
39:41
backer. So everybody in that backfield
39:43
connected with the Bush series. We'd all be back in the
39:45
grandstands doing that, right watching that.
39:48
And the funniest part about that Bush class is I remember going
39:53
circling the tracker a time or two and, and looking up, going
39:56
into, into the back straight away.
39:57
And I looked over there and I saw all my Bush people, right?
40:00
And, and which was so cool. And I'm like, well, this is
40:03
cool, man. They're getting to watch.
40:04
They're cheering for me now. And they, and, and they were, a
40:07
lot of those guys were cheering up and cheering for me when that
40:09
race got going and doing all that stuff that was, I guess
40:13
still worried, still worried about.
40:15
My competitors, I was worried about my, my buddies up there
40:18
being proud of me for being in the friggin race.
40:21
But you know that, that, that particular race, it was just, it
40:27
was just keep I, I remember that race, keep my nose clean.
40:30
You know what I mean, 'cause we didn't have the, the one good
40:33
car, right? And I had to keep my nose clean
40:36
because this car was exceptionally fast.
40:39
It handled exceptionally well, right?
40:41
And I knew that this car had to make it for the next week for
40:45
the 500. And and then I can tell you more
40:47
about the 500. Remember different things,
40:49
learning from Dale, learning from Kenny, doing a lot of
40:52
things that I did not know, man, I learned more from, I'll
40:55
probably learn more from Earnhardt Schrader in that race.
40:57
As far as what you do at Daytona and Talladega, then five or six
41:02
years I'd run Bush Series races and what I'd run in the Bush
41:05
class the year before or anything else.
41:07
I just learned a lot of things that day and that that enabled
41:10
to be a lot more aggressive. Finally, when I thought I had it
41:12
figured out, is able just hold that baby wide open and just
41:15
start, you know, swinging and dice with those guys and that
41:18
that's what we did. Yeah, that I'm glad you you
41:22
pointed out the keeping your nose clean.
41:24
I mean that's something else. Talk about a different time,
41:26
different air. I mean, your car in the class,
41:29
that car had to run the 500 seven days later.
41:32
So you couldn't just, you couldn't just go out there and,
41:35
you know, bust it up or anything.
41:37
Yeah, now he had another car, but it wasn't nearly as good as
41:40
this car, right? I'll tell you I, I, I was going
41:45
to wait till it got in. I was, I don't know what I was
41:47
searching for some some sort of old memorabilia the other night
41:50
on on eBay and I whatever I searched Rick mass sheet metal
41:56
or something and something popped up that I'd not seen
42:01
before and it was somebody was selling.
42:04
I don't know if they took, I'm assuming they took it.
42:05
They're old photographer or something.
42:07
I don't know, or they just found this image and they're selling
42:10
themselves now. But either way, they got a few
42:12
bucks out of me. It's a picture of you Earnhardt
42:15
and Schrader in the 500 coming through the trioval and it's a
42:18
picture. It's an angle I'd never seen
42:20
before. So I went ahead and bought a
42:23
copy of it and they hadn't gotten here yet.
42:25
But, but I thought, but I thought that that just I for no
42:30
other reason other than just I saw it and I was like, Darren,
42:32
I've never seen that, never seen that angle, never seen it on the
42:35
Internet. And we got a ton of pictures and
42:37
stuff at your house. And I've got a lot of stuff here
42:40
from, from granddaddy, from your dad, my granddaddy who's who
42:45
left us a number of years ago. But I've got a lot of his stuff
42:47
here so that maybe there's a copy of that in these stacks of
42:50
photos I got here. I don't know.
42:52
But either way, I got one on the way.
42:53
So as a special moment for for us and the family, that whole
42:57
that whole experience was was really cool.
43:00
Unsponsored car, too. In that Bush clash in the
43:03
Daytona 500 out there. Lead unsponsored with a rookie.
43:06
With Earnhardt and Schrader, that's that's pretty cool,
43:10
pretty good. Yeah.
43:10
If we if we'd have listened to Hickey or our gas man, we'd have
43:14
won the race. You know, I mean, we pitted for
43:16
fuel like Earnhardt and Schrader.
43:18
Darryl ended up winning and he didn't pit for fuel.
43:21
And Hickey kept trying to tell Travis, you know, we we can make
43:24
it. We can make it with Travis's,
43:26
you know, we've been out front all day.
43:27
The car had been out on TV all day.
43:29
And he didn't want to embarrass yourself.
43:30
He's trying to track the sponsor.
43:32
So he pitted to be sure, or for certainty to finish the race and
43:37
I supported that decision then. I still support that.
43:39
But you know, look back at it. We could have won that thing,
43:41
man. We could have won it but.
43:43
Yeah, it was all good. You can do that in sports and
43:47
life and everything. You can sit there and go back
43:48
and try to retroactively say, well, if we had just done this
43:51
and done just done this, but it's hard to, it's hard not to
43:54
do it. There's a lot of near misses
43:57
that they they throw to 500. I mean, man, man, man, we can
44:01
talk for, for Earnhardt for 20 years about those near misses
44:04
and everybody else. But to to be able to say, you
44:08
know, which we could have won 500, that's pretty cool deal,
44:11
right? So, yeah, yeah, yeah.
44:14
Well, you fit. I mean, you ran a lot better and
44:18
that, go ahead. I'm sorry.
44:19
I thought you ran a lot better in the 500 than I ever did.
44:21
So you know you got nothing to be ashamed of there.
44:24
Yeah, yeah, so all those things culminate back to the original
44:27
perimal premise of this podcast is a book or your question about
44:31
the Bush class, where should it be all those reasons in in our
44:35
minds or my mind is like, that's why it should be at Daytona.
44:37
But we're at a different time now.
44:39
We're in a different area. We do things completely
44:41
different, you know, so I'm looking actually looking forward
44:45
to big deal to Madhouse Man. I want to see those guys get the
44:48
rubbing and knocking and beating.
44:49
I want to see them get mad at each other, right.
44:51
Probably won't, but it happens at the madhouse.
44:54
Yeah, I. I enjoyed it last year.
44:56
I'm looking forward to it again this year.
44:59
I think I, I know there's the one option on the table as well.
45:02
Should they just scrap the clash all together and then use that
45:06
event for something else? And I, I don't know, I don't
45:08
agree with that. I, I think you, I think it's
45:12
still a good thing And, and they're, and they're trying
45:15
stuff with it. I the first year of the LA
45:18
Coliseum deal was from an entertainment perspective is
45:22
interesting. The racing itself wasn't much,
45:24
but again, like you said, they're trying something that
45:27
was still, I think we're kind of coming out of that era where
45:31
they're they're still willing, they're still trying stuff,
45:34
which is great. I think they should keep doing
45:35
that. I think that was still very much
45:37
in that air of like we're throwing everything against the
45:39
wall and seeing what sticks, you know, like just trying
45:42
everything under the sun. So, but I'm, I, I am looking
45:47
forward to the question. I think what what we've as we've
45:49
sat here and talked about, I didn't have a strong feeling on
45:51
it either way. I feel like the way to go with
45:53
it is move it back to Daytona, have a shorter event and have
45:56
you have it kick off your your speed week and try to get back
45:59
to that full speed week deal. But I ain't running things I'm
46:03
going to watch wherever it is, so it doesn't really matter.
46:05
Oh, yeah, hopefully The thing is, is great.
46:07
Hopefully it's great. We have to have a conversation.
46:09
So we move it, you know, hopefully everything goes good
46:11
enough to where, yeah, this where it needs to be, this where
46:14
it needs to stay, right. That's what you want when you
46:16
try all this stuff. I mean, you just don't throw it
46:18
up these little stuff out there and just see how it works.
46:21
Your your goal is to hopefully think, man, this is when it's
46:24
over with, like, all right, this what we're going to keep doing,
46:26
right. So, you know, maybe that's
46:28
what'll happen. That's what I'd like to see
46:29
happen, really. So.
46:30
Yeah. Yeah, and I like the they're
46:33
they've shown they're they're willing to to change.
46:35
Well, they felt I mean, we referenced it last week, but
46:37
they made it official today that the Roval is now officially
46:39
going back to the Oval track at Charlotte in the the fall race,
46:43
400 mile race instead of the old 500 mile race, which which is
46:47
kind of interesting. I don't have strong feelings on
46:50
that either way. But you know, just thought those
46:53
it's kind of an interesting, interesting little, little side
46:56
note, But they've they adjusted. They tried the robo thing.
46:59
That was back when that that particular generation of cars
47:02
were putting on a pretty good show on a road course, whether
47:04
it was, you know, whether you agree with it from a traditional
47:07
standpoint or not, I understood why they were trying it.
47:09
The robo was kind of a interesting thing there for a
47:12
little bit, but these current cars don't put on as good as
47:14
they've actually put on a much better show on the bigger tracks
47:17
like like Charlotte. So it's it's it's try stuff, but
47:21
also, you know, adjust accordingly as as you go.
47:24
That's one thing. And during your air, I mean, to
47:27
add a new track or switch a date around or something that just,
47:30
it didn't happen very often. You know, I'm trying to think
47:32
back. You came in full time in 91.
47:36
I bet there wasn't a change till I think New Hampshire came into
47:39
play in 93, India 94 and then I don't know, Texas 97.
47:47
Vegas was around there. So I guess they started coming
47:50
in, but still, it wasn't like pretty much there were a lot of
47:53
tracks that had two dates and oftentimes the dates were around
47:57
the the same time. Those didn't move around either,
47:59
so. Yeah.
48:01
And again, it was probably, I really thought about it like
48:04
that was probably one of the reasons Indy was such a big deal
48:06
'cause we didn't add dates, we didn't add races, right?
48:09
It just, you know, you didn't have it.
48:11
You had the same schedule every year after year.
48:13
And so when you would add a deal, it was a big deal.
48:16
I mean, when they opened Texas, when Bruton built Texas, man,
48:18
that was a big deal to go to Texas and that new facility to
48:22
go to Indy was a new deal. I mean, it was a big deal.
48:24
All these things are big deals in our day.
48:26
Yeah, yeah, for sure. Well, I'm looking forward to the
48:30
clash. I'm looking forward to the
48:32
season getting started. I hope the clash happens again.
48:34
I'm just going to assume that there's not going to be any
48:36
weather. But actually I was one one other
48:39
clash thing. There's just so many little cool
48:42
things they they that they would do in your day.
48:44
The posters that they would make each year for the class.
48:46
You still got those hanging up in the house.
48:49
I loved here with one point. Last couple years they recreated
48:52
with the newer drivers. They recreated the my favorite
48:55
one that you're on and that's where it just says Bush clash on
48:58
the poster. And then all you guys are kind
49:00
of like some of you are hanging off of the letter, some of
49:02
you're standing up against it. I think I think you and
49:04
Earnhardt are both on the the L in the in clash or one of the
49:09
letters on the bottom where you're kind of leaned up against
49:11
it. And then he's, you know, makes
49:13
it look like he's sitting on top of it.
49:14
So cool little things like that, like that's, it's, it kind of
49:18
make those events kind of neat, you know?
49:20
If you're, if you're, yeah, it was the big competitors, neat
49:23
man. They always give us neat deals,
49:25
right? One year we got now I think 2
49:27
years we got blood shootout shotguns, right?
49:31
And Gray Bud shootout engraved in there.
49:33
And then let's see, we got a oh, we got a Budweiser.
49:37
What was that thing called? Kegerator.
49:39
No, you it was a Bush. Can many I don't want to call it
49:46
a mini refrigerator. It was not a full size
49:48
refrigerator. Obviously it was in the shape of
49:50
a big Bush beer can. But you know, everybody knows
49:53
what a mini fridge looks like this like nowadays.
49:55
It was probably three times the size of a of a mini fridge, at
49:59
least twice the size of a mini fridge and there's a giant like
50:03
must say, I think that one you might have gotten that from the
50:07
89 clash. To be honest with you.
50:09
I feel like I I could be wrong about that.
50:12
I know one thing that I don't know where that fridge was in
50:17
your house for a number of years, but somehow or another I
50:19
commandeered it and it went with me to college.
50:22
And that was my refrigerator in my bedroom of my apartment in
50:26
college for for a couple years. It was a nice little
50:29
conversation piece for you've. Been a popular dude then.
50:32
Well, we got a keggerator when we got the Budweiser.
50:34
Real, real nice keggerator too. One year.
50:37
That's right, yeah. Yeah, that's in, that's in your.
50:40
House We always got a nice Bush ring with diamond studs and all
50:43
that. It was it was a very neat deal.
50:45
Belt buckles. It's a very neat deal to be in
50:47
it as a, as a, as a competitor man.
50:51
Yeah, well, we're looking forward to watching it, looking
50:53
forward to getting the season going.
50:56
I'm glad that. Well, I'm glad my daughter
51:00
didn't build up the immunity he were talking about.
51:02
I'm fine with my decision there. I'm glad your thumb is still
51:05
attached to your hand. I'm glad a bird didn't didn't
51:08
kill mom and the cats today. I'm glad NASCAR's back.
51:12
Glad Mascara. Heck, yeah.
51:14
Heck, yeah. All right, Dad.
51:16
Well, no hospital stays this week.
51:18
I'll keep a better eye on my child this week.
51:20
And hopefully we get to talk about some some fun NASCAR stuff
51:24
when we're back here next week. Yep, sounds good to me.
51:27
Ricky sounds good. All right well, everybody follow
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51:46
I mean, Sam, that's Sam. Sam.
51:49
Sam. Sam.
51:50
What's up? Sam.
51:51
Sam. All right, there's the first,
51:55
first appearance by Mascat. I'm actually kind of surprised
51:57
it took. Yeah.
52:01
All right. Well, he's Rick.
52:07
I'm Ricky. We'll see you all next week.
52:10
To Lou, guys, thanks for turning in.