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Postgame Pod: Vanderbilt defeats Auburn 84-76 · The Auburn Undercover Podcast

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  Welcome back in everybody here to the
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  postcamp pod at Auburn Undercover.
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  Nathan King joined by Patrick Bingham
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  here inside of Neville Arena where on a
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  quick turnaround on Tuesday night, it
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  was a maybe a bit of a hangover
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  performance regardless of however you
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  would describe it for Auburn coming off
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  of that loss to Alabama on Saturday. It
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  was it was a disappointing one. It was a
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  frustrating one here at home as Auburn
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  falls to Vanderbilt 84-76.
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  This is the first time in a decade that
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  Auburn basketball has lost on its home
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  floor to Vanderbilt. Have to go
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  >> say 20 26 is the new 2016. It was 17.
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  Oh, okay.
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  >> Yeah, that All right. Well, we'll just
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  we'll just we'll just scratch that one
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  in post. Uh you have to go all the way
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  back to when I was a freshman at Auburn.
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  Uh the last time that this team lost to
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  Vanderbilt. This is a much different
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  Vanderbilt team, much different
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  Vanderbilt program. Uh this Vanderbilt
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  team is in the top 15 analytically um in
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  in a lot of metrics. This is a uh this
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  was no doubt a quad one game for Auburn.
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  This is not um a a big upset or anything
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  like that. Vanderbilt came into this
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  game ranked while Auburn was not. You
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  know, Vanderbilt had a bigger record.
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  All of those things though, Patrick,
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  that I just said make this a little bit
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  more painful for Auburn. And that's what
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  Steve Pearl talked about after the game
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  because you had a couple games here on
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  your home floor. It already it already
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  hurts to lose on your home floor, but
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  when you feel like you could get a
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  couple games for your resume and a
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  couple wins that would really help you
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  out here in SEC play and you don't get
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  them, it's all the more painful. Um, and
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  a couple different types of losses.
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  Alabama was the defense
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  >> and and I don't know about you from your
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  vantage point down on the floor, but
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  really Auburn's offense for most of the
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  game. I know they ended up with 76
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  points, but they just look like a shell
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  of themselves for for a lot of this
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  game. Yeah, I think the biggest thing
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  that stood out to me um especially
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  because it was my end of the floor the
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  first half, the offense was just the
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  layups. That was kind of the biggest
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  stat to me was I I forget, but it was
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  like 11 of 20ome.
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  >> Yeah, 11 of 27 to end the game. One of
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  10 in the first half at the rim.
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  >> That was it. Yes, I remember that tweet
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  from you and it was just they could get
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  nothing going in the paint. And when I
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  mean that's like the big thing for this
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  team is driving down and either making
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  that layup or getting a foul. And I
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  mean, I thought it was a good game plan
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  by Vanderbilt of like we're gonna take
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  the pain away and dare you to try to
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  make threes and or made a couple, but it
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  wasn't like anything more than they've
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  really been doing. And um that combined
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  with Keshan Hall just not making a lot
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  of shots um just really caused a problem
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  for Auburn today.
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  >> Yeah, even before Keshan Hall uh was was
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  essentially I I say benched, there's a
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  lot more nuance with it than that with
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  about 12 minutes left. Even before that,
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  he was three of 13 from the floor. uh 0
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  of eight from from two-point range
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  because he was three of five from from
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  deep. But yeah, I mean in the first half
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  as Patrick mentioned um you Auburn kept
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  attacking the lane and and Steam Pearl
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  said after the game he's like, you know,
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  maybe we should have gotten some more
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  calls here and there and he said that
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  that frustration sort of boiled over. Uh
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  Vanderbilt ends up leading by as many as
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  15 in the second half. Auburn has a
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  rally um down the stretch. They go from
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  shooting really really poorly um to to
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  having some some opportunities down the
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  stretch. which I thought Todd Pedifer
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  did a really good job of sort of
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  speeding up the pace of the game and
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  sort of dictating things in the second
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  half. Um but they they had an
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  opportunity. They got it down to four.
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  Um got it down to you could have gotten
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  it down to two with with another stop
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  and Tyler Tanner who was phenomenal for
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  Vanderbilt makes a big three there
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  >> at the end. There was some back and
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  forth toward the end of the game, but
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  really it was a matter of just
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  Vanderbilt just made their free throws.
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  It was it was an elongated game.
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  >> They went off the top of my head 20 for
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  23. I think one guy missed two and I
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  think there's one other miss in the
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  second half.
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  >> Yeah, they were 26 of 30 from the line
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  for the game. Tyler Tanner himself who
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  who had 25.6 assists uh was nine of 10
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  from the foul line in the last 3 minutes
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  of the game. So, it's pretty good stuff
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  from him. But let's talk about the
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  Keshan Hall thing. Uh because there's a
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  couple like individual moments in this
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  game that people are wanting to to touch
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  on. Uh Keshan Hall gets a technical foul
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  uh which we'll we'll talk about a little
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  later because Stephen Pearl had some
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  things to say about uh Auburn's emotions
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  over the past couple games. But Keshan
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  Hall gets a technical foul. Um and two
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  minutes later he actually hits a three
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  after that. Um but two minutes later he
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  he's benched and doesn't come back for
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  the rest of the game.
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  >> But as I wouldn't say I've been getting
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  in Twitter arguments with anybody, but
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  as I sort of pointed out on on social
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  media a while ago, somebody said, you
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  know, what what a terrible, you know,
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  decision by by Stephen or whatever.
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  Well, Auburn outsc scored Vanderbilt the
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  rest of the game.
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  >> Um, and Keshan Hall was a team low minus
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  12 for the game, which that's just, you
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  know, plus minus. When he was on the
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  floor, Auburn was outscored by 12 over
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  the course of the uh of the game. It
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  proved to be the right decision,
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  Patrick, as we're still in this
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  situation where you're trying to weigh
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  what Steven Pearl talked about after the
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  Alabama game, which is your better
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  players have to defend. Keshan Hall was
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  was just getting toasted on defense in
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  this game and it ended up being a better
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  lineup down the stretch um to to try to
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  get back in the game without him.
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  >> And that's like that's just the like
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  consistent thing with Steven all year is
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  like he will take you out. Like it's
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  like it's not like you can't even test
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  the waters cuz he's proven time and time
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  again like even for it was like one
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  possession at towards the end of the
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  Alabama game he got mad at it might have
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  been after that three that Aiden hit. He
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  took Tahad right out and it was just
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  like he did it again I guess with Keshan
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  over a longer period of the game. But
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  again it's like even if you wanted to
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  argue like yes Keshan's one of your
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  better scorers, maybe he could have made
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  a couple more baskets in the very end if
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  you get it from the teens all the way to
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  a fourpoint deficit. Like it's kind of
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  hard to argue against who was on the
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  floor in that moment. But yeah, at the
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  end of the day it's just it like you're
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  missing shots. I mean I think the
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  biggest thing is he was I mean he said
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  he wanted to go with the players gave
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  him the best chance to win but then he
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  was like our offense was just not in
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  sync and I think the plus minus stat
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  point
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  >> that is the thing that's a good point by
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  you that's the other thing to point out
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  is going all the way back to the first
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  half you know Steam Pearl said uh you
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  know when Keshan Hall was in the game
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  their offense just wasn't in sync and it
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  was really they picked things up they
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  did a better job in second half Todd
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  Pifer being aggressive was was a big
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  part of that. Um the other the other
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  thing that happened with the officiating
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  was and I thought I I said it during the
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  game that that this is the one where
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  Steven Pearl was going to blow. Um and
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  he really didn't that much.
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  >> No, he didn't even you know there's been
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  games several games actually where he's
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  hit the video board so like the little
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  thing on the sideline so hard that the
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  whole panel's gone out. But we didn't
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  have any like no pixels were lost.
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  >> No. and he maintains that. So I thought
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  he was gonna he was going to crash out
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  when I don't know if you saw it but Pat
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  Adams like gave him the handsaw. I was
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  like that is not going to go over very
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  well at all. And I had some people on
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  social media and I thought it was a
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  decent point. They were like
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  >> Auburn was was just trudging through
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  like an 11-point deficit at that point.
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  And people were like maybe he should
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  maybe he should get thrown out like like
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  get get some energy back in in the team.
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  He ends up getting a technical foul. Um,
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  and I promise I'm going somewhere with
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  this, but Steam Pearl said after the
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  game that Pat Adams uh told him that he
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  cussed at him. And the interesting part
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  of that is, you know, Steam Pearl said,
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  "I didn't cuss." And that's one man's
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  word against somebody else. But, uh, we
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  saw SEC inside here at practice
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  yesterday. Steam
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  >> here for like several games. Yeah.
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  >> Uh, Steam Pearl was actually miked up
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  tonight. So, like there will be hard
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  evidence whether he he cussed at at Pat
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  Adams, but
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  >> we need the clip. I
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  >> I said that to say like it's been a bit
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  of a factor here in the past couple
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  games. and and Steam Pearl said, "Look,
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  we we've let our uh you know, we've let
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  our emotions get the better of us in
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  this game." I can think of now five
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  instances over the last two games cuz
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  you had two flagrant fouls against
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  Alabama.
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  >> Uh um Philip Yoic was called for a hook
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  and hold in this game.
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  >> There's been several hook and holds
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  recently.
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  >> I thought Yoic was going to I thought
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  clearly he was going to get a technical
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  foul. I don't know if you saw him run
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  back up the floor and like touch his arm
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  where he got hit right in Pat Adam's
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  face. I'm like that he's going down. But
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  he didn't get attacked. And then Kean
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  Hall and Steam Pearl both get attack in
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  this game. So, five, you know, free
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  opportunities for the opponents. And off
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  the top of my head, Patrick, I cannot
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  rack those up pointwise, but against
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  Alabama, they were both four-point
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  possessions. I know. Um, and and lots of
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  free opportunities for Vanderbilt in
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  this game. And so really between and
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  I'll kind of wrap it up here between
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  that and between what you were just
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  talking about with like the Keshan Hall
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  thing. This is continually a case of a
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  team that clearly has pieces clearly has
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  things they can conce
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  this season. Look no further than a
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  four-game winning streak and beating
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  Florida. But it's like
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  >> the parts that are inconsistent when
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  those start to swirl. Is this team
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  bottom half of the SEC? They they I
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  think they are. they they've shown that
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  they they haven't they have the ability
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  to play that low of a level and so
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  really it's just with this new look
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  group still we're here in approaching
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  midFebruary trying to get all the pieces
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  together trying to get guys to play
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  consistently game by game
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  >> and that's the thing is like not to
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  compare everything to last year cuz
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  that's not fair to this team but like
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  last year if one or two players were off
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  you had enough around them where it was
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  fine like you could go through slumps or
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  Tahad could go through a few games or
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  whoever could go through a few games and
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  you were ultimately fine because you had
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  all the other pieces. And in this team,
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  you're just not really built like that
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  because you're not the best team's ever
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  had. And so again, like for as much as
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  we've seen when it's on, it's on and
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  they can go win at Florida. It you also
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  see the downside of it in these last few
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  games, which makes the next month so
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  interesting. And of course, it's kind of
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  the ultimate, I guess, like flip it
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  positive side hope for Auburn of like
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  you get into the tournament, if you get
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  the good side, maybe you could do
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  something good. Sure. And and and
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  segueing there with what you just said,
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  Patrick, getting into the tournament.
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  Yes. Um lots of lots of discussion
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  tonight by people about, you know, what
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  does this mean for Auburn's tournament
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  outlook? Again, I I think I the biggest
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  thing I will stress is that
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  >> this is not the home Vanderbilt loss
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  that I watched when I was a freshman at
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  Auburn 10 years ago. This team will
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  probably be they were 14th in the net
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  heading into tonight. They'll probably
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  be like 12th or 13th
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  >> tomorrow. It's a really good team. This
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  loss is not resume crushing by any
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  means. If you're Auburn moving forward
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  now, you're five and six in the league.
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  You've helped yourself with some good
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  quad one wins. You have a decent resume
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  there. You have to continue to avoid the
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  bad losses. Um so you look at games like
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  Mississippi State on the road next week.
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  That's what the game is, by the way.
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  We're talking about this, not Oklahoma.
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  They go to Mississippi State next
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  Wednesday. Like
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  >> Miss at home,
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  >> Miss at home, LSU at home, who just beat
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  this Vanderbilt team. It's it's it's
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  tough to put yourself in a situation
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  where you're just saying and I think
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  that's the biggest thing is that you you
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  don't need to put yourself in the
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  situation where you're saying Auburn has
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  no chance against better teams on their
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  schedule cuz we know that's just not
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  true. Like they go to Arkansas on
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  Saturday. I know it's going to be really
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  tough a revenge game, excuse me, a
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  rematch game on the road against a team
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  you already beat. But like
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  >> Auburn went on the road and beat
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  Florida.
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  >> We're all like oh there's no there's no
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  way they're going to go win in Bud
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  Walton after what they did to them
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  earlier XY and Z. I'm like I said there
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  was no way they were winning after
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  exactly and so really just you know from
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  from here on out for the Auburn team now
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  sitting at you know seven SEC games
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  remaining I think getting to an even
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  record or a winning record in the SEC
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  would be really big but as of right now
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  Patrick and we can only go game by game
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  >> as of right now this is a tournament
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  team's only going game by game I for
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  >> Yeah yeah yeah
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  >> but I mean it's just it's one of those
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  things where it's like and that's it is
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  like it's everything's so tight and
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  really there is no top leader So you win
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  a few games that really sways where you
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  are in the standings and
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  >> the next one's the most important one.
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  >> True. Yeah, absolutely. I mean Auburn's
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  going to try to give itself an
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  opportunity against Arkansas. Another
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  big challenge on the road. If they lose
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  that game, uh you've you've all of a
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  sudden flipped a four-ame winning streak
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  into a four-ame losing streak. It
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  currently sits at three games. Um couple
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  stats for you. This is the first time
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  they've lost back-to-back home games
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  since the co year. if you would like to
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  exclude that because Auburn did not have
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  a capacity crowd and say when was the
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  last time they won in front lost
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  back-to-back home games in front of a in
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  front of a building a full building
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  again have to go all the way back to my
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  freshman year uh they lost to Florida
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  and they lost to Arkansas at home in
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  back-to-back games and so uh yeah I mean
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  Auburn obviously doesn't like any of
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  those would like to get back on track
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  and uh as Steven Pearl said this was a
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  quote disappointing performance I think
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  that's kind of the best way to uh to sum
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  it up uh so Auburn falls to Vanderbilt
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  tonight in uh in Neville Arena they'll
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  be back in action at Budw Walton on
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  Saturday for Patrick Bingham. I'm Nathan
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  King. Thank you guys so much for joining
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  us here on the postgame pod. Head over
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