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- 0:00You know, usually when we talk about receiving a letter from a
- 0:03beloved mentor, there is this expectation of like, warm
- 0:07greetings, right? You anticipate practical advice,
- 0:11maybe some comforting words about your daily struggles, or,
- 0:14you know, a bit of conventional wisdom just to help you get
- 0:16through a tough week. Yeah, you expect a pat on the
- 0:18back. But imagine opening that letter
- 0:21and instead of a friendly check in, you find an urgent encoded
- 0:25military briefing. Wow.
- 0:27Yeah, that's a shift. Right.
- 0:30It is full of startling imagery, multi headed Dragons, grotesque
- 0:34beasts rising from the sea, cosmic battles in the heavens,
- 0:38and the underlying message is essentially the enemy is at the
- 0:41gates, absolute hostility is imminent and here is your
- 0:44survival protocol, which is. Terrifying, honestly.
- 0:47Welcome to Reformed Thinking. Today we are taking a massive,
- 0:50detailed look at an absolutely fascinating piece of analysis by
- 0:53Derek Tidball, specifically looking at Chapter 14 of his
- 0:57work Ministry in a Hostile World.
- 0:59It is such a good chapter, it really is, and our mission for
- 1:03you today is to look at the Book of Revelation from a completely
- 1:06different angle. We are going to examine it not
- 1:10as a confusing, cryptic puzzle to be solved, but is a highly
- 1:14practical pastoral manual designed to prepare a persecuted
- 1:18church for survival and faithfulness.
- 1:20Yeah, that pastoral angle is huge.
- 1:22OK, let's unpack this, because the historical reality that
- 1:25provoked this text is, well, it's staggering, and it demands
- 1:29a completely different reading than what most of us are used
- 1:31to. It really is a staggering
- 1:33context. To frame our discussion, we
- 1:35should probably look at a brilliant quote from Eugene
- 1:37Peterson that Tidball includes. Oh, I love Peterson.
- 1:40What did he say? Peterson said he wanted to play
- 1:41Cupid between the words apocalyptic and pastor.
- 1:45Play Cupid. Yeah, he pointed out that those
- 1:47two words grew up on different sides of the tracks, and you
- 1:50know, you rarely hear them in the same sentence.
- 1:52That's so true. Think about what comes to mind
- 1:54when you hear apocalyptic You think of terrifying visions,
- 1:58world ending catastrophes, bizarre symbolism, and a sort of
- 2:02frenzied fever pitch tone. Right.
- 2:04Like action movie stuff? Exactly.
- 2:07Now think of pastor. You picture gentle care,
- 2:11counseling, quiet conversations over a cup of coffee.
- 2:14Maybe a nice cardigan. Yeah, Cardigan, careful
- 2:16shepherding. Those concepts seem violently
- 2:18opposed to one another, but Tidball makes the case that
- 2:22Revelation unconsciously reveals a massive amount about the
- 2:26specific kind of ministry required when the Church faces
- 2:30total hostility. I mean the threat of
- 2:32annihilation. See, I don't buy this right out
- 2:34of the gate. No, no, I mean, if my house is
- 2:36on fire, I don't want a poem about a water dragon.
- 2:39I want the exit route. Fairpoint.
- 2:40Why is John wasting time with multi headed beasts when people
- 2:44are literally being thrown into arenas?
- 2:46Yeah, if the persecution was so horrific and the danger was so
- 2:50immediate, why write something so heavily symbolic instead of
- 2:53giving direct, practical instructions like hide in the
- 2:56specific cave system or avoid the marketplace on Tuesdays to
- 3:00dodge the Imperial Guards? That is the perfect question to
- 3:03ask, and it forces us to look directly at the nature of the
- 3:06threat itself. Practical instructions on
- 3:09physical survival would assume that physical survival is the
- 3:13highest goal of the Christian life.
- 3:15Oh, oh, OK. But for John, spiritual
- 3:18faithfulness to Jesus Christ, who is described in chapter 1 as
- 3:22the faithful witness, the first born from the dead, and the
- 3:25ruler of the kings of the earth, that is the highest goal.
- 3:28So it's about loyalty and not just staying breathing.
- 3:31Right. But to understand why plaintext
- 3:34instructions wouldn't work, we have to put ourselves in the
- 3:36shoes of the original audience. We have to look at the Roman
- 3:40emperor Domitian, who ruled from AD 81 to 96.
- 3:43Right? This was not casual
- 3:45discrimination. Domitian was the very first
- 3:47Roman emperor to demand worship as Lord and God in Latin
- 3:51domenicit Deus. Let's park there for a second
- 3:53because that is a massive shift. Previous emperors might have
- 3:56been deified like after they died, right?
- 3:58Yes, usually posthumously. But Domitian is demanding this
- 4:01while he is still breathing, eating and walking around.
- 4:06How did that actually play out in the daily life of an average
- 4:09person living in Asia Minor? It meant that the imperial cult
- 4:12became the inescapable fabric of daily life.
- 4:16This wasn't just about showing up in a temple once a year.
- 4:18Like a holiday or something? No, not at all.
- 4:21The Imperial cult was tied to the trade guilds, the local
- 4:24economy, the civic festivals and the public markets.
- 4:27Wow, if you were a Baker, a tent maker, or a merchant in Ephesus
- 4:31and you refused to acknowledge to mission as Lord and God, you
- 4:36were frozen out of the economy. So you couldn't buy or sell?
- 4:38You couldn't participate in the Guild feast, which meant you
- 4:41lost your business contacts. You became a social pariah, and
- 4:44the mission instituted cruel systemic persecution against
- 4:47anyone who refused that demand. He wasn't messing around.
- 4:50Yeah, Tidball references a letter from Clement of Rome,
- 4:54written right around 1896, which speaks of unexpected misfortunes
- 4:58and setbacks and shared torment in the same arena.
- 5:01When Clement says torment in the same arena, we need to be clear
- 5:05about what that means. Yeah, it's brutal.
- 5:07We are talking about the visceral reality of the Coliseum
- 5:10and the provincial amphitheaters.
- 5:12We are talking about families being torn apart by wild animals
- 5:16for public entertainment. It's.
- 5:17Unthinkable for us today. We are talking about absolute
- 5:21state sponsored terror. It was a brutal environment.
- 5:25I mean, the mission was so cruel, so paranoid, and so
- 5:28demanding of absolute loyalty that a conspiracy eventually
- 5:32assassinated. Him, even his own people, had
- 5:33enough. Yeah, so the church in Asia
- 5:35Minor was facing an absolute totalitarian threat.
- 5:38This is military, economic, secular and sacred opposition
- 5:42all rolled into one. Which brings us right back to
- 5:45your pushback about why John uses apocalyptic language
- 5:48instead of practical survival tips.
- 5:49Right, the dragon palms. Right when you are facing
- 5:52absolute totalitarian hostility, straightforward plain text
- 5:56pastoral letters might not offer the scale of hope required.
- 6:00If the state claims absolute divine authority over every
- 6:03single aspect of your life, the state says we own your body, we
- 6:06own your business, and we own your soul.
- 6:08A simple letter saying Hang in there simply does not match the
- 6:12magnitude of the threat. Hang in there feels a bit thin
- 6:15when there are lions involved. Spot on.
- 6:19The apocalyptic genre blows the roof off the immediate political
- 6:22crisis to reveal the cosmic reality.
- 6:26It bypasses the immediate trauma by showing that the true battle
- 6:30is not just against a paranoid Roman emperor, but against
- 6:33spiritual forces of evil. And that God maintains absolute
- 6:37sovereignty over all of it. Yes, that is the core of it.
- 6:41Furthermore, Tidball highlights the specific phrase from
- 6:43Revelation chapter one, verse 1. John states he is preparing the
- 6:47church for what must soon take place.
- 6:50It is an immediate, urgent text. I look at it like a military
- 6:54briefing given to soldiers right before a major perilous
- 6:57operation. That's a good way to put it.
- 6:59This is not theoretical theology discussed in a comfortable
- 7:02classroom. It is practical survival
- 7:04protocol for the front lines. Absolutely.
- 7:06But if the Roman states goal was total assimilation and the
- 7:09Christians were just trying to survive, Rome wouldn't have
- 7:11cared this much unless the Christians were doing something
- 7:13that made them a specific threat.
- 7:15Right, they had to be a thorn in the side somehow.
- 7:17Yeah, because Rome crushed armed rebellions.
- 7:20They didn't typically care about private book clubs.
- 7:24What were these Christians actually doing, or what did they
- 7:26represent that made them a target in the first place?
- 7:30The conflict comes down to competing identities and
- 7:32competing kingdoms. Early in the book, in chapters
- 7:36one and five, Revelation defines the Church's identity.
- 7:40There is described as a Kingdom and priests to worship God the
- 7:43Father. Their primary calling was to be
- 7:46the visible representation of God's reign on earth.
- 7:49Kingdom and priests. Yes, and this priesthood was not
- 7:52a special elite class of clergy standing in front of a passive
- 7:56audience. Every single member of the
- 7:58church was viewed as a priest. So the Baker and the tent maker.
- 8:01The Baker, the slave, the wealthy merchant.
- 8:04This is a direct echo of the Old Covenant promise in Exodus 19,
- 8:08where God tells Israel they will be a Kingdom of priests, and it
- 8:11echoes Peter's words In First Peter too.
- 8:14Everyone in the Christian community is called a St.
- 8:16Let's breakdown what a priest actually does.
- 8:19A priest is a mediator. A priest stands between the
- 8:22divine and the mundane. In the Roman context, the
- 8:25emperor was the ultimate mediator.
- 8:28The pawn effects maximus. The bridge builder.
- 8:30Right. But here John is telling a group
- 8:32of persecuted, marginalized, economically frozen out
- 8:35believers. No, you are the priests.
- 8:39You are the ones mediating the true God's presence to the
- 8:42world. And claiming loyalty to a higher
- 8:45supreme authority, declaring that Jesus is Lord, not Caesar,
- 8:50was viewed by the Roman Empire as politically subversive and
- 8:53highly treasonous. I can see why.
- 8:55Yeah, the Kingdom of priests operating within the Roman
- 8:57Empire was essentially A rival Kingdom.
- 8:59Rome demanded total allegiance. They didn't like competition,
- 9:02not at all. When Christians refused to offer
- 9:05a pinch of incense to the genius of the emperor, they weren't
- 9:08just being stubborn about a religious ritual, they were
- 9:11publicly denying the absolute sovereignty of the Roman state.
- 9:14To a Roman magistrate, this looked like an insurrection.
- 9:16It absolutely did. Furthermore, the role of a
- 9:19priest involves offering sacrifices.
- 9:22Tidball notes that in chapters 7 and 16 of Revelation, the
- 9:26sacrifice these priests are sometimes called to offer is
- 9:29their own lives. They are participating in the
- 9:33ultimate witness against the state's idolatry.
- 9:36I am struck by how decentralized this makes the early church
- 9:39look. How so?
- 9:41Well, Kevin Giles is quoted in the source material noting that
- 9:44the Church order reflected in Revelation is quite undeveloped,
- 9:47with little fixed structure. Right, no massive hierarchy.
- 9:50Yeah, the letters in chapters 2 and three are addressed to the
- 9:53Angel of the Church, which most scholars take as a
- 9:56personification of the whole congregation across those seven
- 10:00representative churches in Asia Minor.
- 10:01Yes, that's the general consensus.
- 10:03It feels very much like a decentralized resistance
- 10:06movement without a rigid top down hierarchy.
- 10:09They are much harder for an empire to eliminate.
- 10:11They rely entirely on their shared core identity as Saints
- 10:15and priests. This decentralized nature made
- 10:17them incredibly resilient, but it also made them extremely
- 10:21vulnerable to local pressures. What kind of pressures?
- 10:23Well, we need to look at a specific phrase John uses that
- 10:26highlights this vulnerability. In the letters to the churches,
- 10:29John mentions the synagogue of Satan.
- 10:32Hold on, let's camp on that idea of the Synagogue of Satan for a
- 10:34minute, because that sounds wildly offensive to modern
- 10:37years. What was actually happening
- 10:38there? In the Roman Empire, Judaism was
- 10:41a religio listed, a legal, permitted religion.
- 10:45Jews were historically exempted from participating in the
- 10:48imperial cult because the Romans, for all their faults,
- 10:52respected ancient traditions. OK, so they had a legal pass?
- 10:55They did, and in the earliest days of the church, Christianity
- 10:58was viewed by the Romans as just a sect of Judaism.
- 11:01So Christians enjoy that same legal protection.
- 11:04They were riding on their coattails, so to speak.
- 11:06Pretty much. But by the time of the mission,
- 11:09the local Jewish communities in Asia Minor were actively
- 11:12distancing themselves from the Christians.
- 11:14Why? Because the Christians were
- 11:16bringing heat down on them. They were telling the Roman
- 11:18authorities these people are not with us.
- 11:21They are a new rogue group. When the local synagogues kick
- 11:25the Christians out, the Christians lost their legal
- 11:28umbrella. They were suddenly exposed to
- 11:30the full lethal demand of the Imperial.
- 11:33Cult, so they were completely vulnerable.
- 11:35Completely. So when John uses that harsh
- 11:38language, he is reacting to the fact that these local
- 11:41communities were essentially handing the Christians over to
- 11:44execution. That makes total sense.
- 11:46It is not just a theological dispute, it is a matter of
- 11:49physical survival. Literally life and death.
- 11:52The local synagogue pulling that legal protection away meant the
- 11:55Christian Baker Oregon merchant was now fully exposed to the
- 11:58wrath of the state. But here's my question.
- 12:02If their structure was so undeveloped and they are facing
- 12:05this intense crushing pressure from the government on one side
- 12:09and losing their legal protection on the other, how do
- 12:12they maintain unity and orthodoxy?
- 12:15How did they not just fracture into 100 different compromise
- 12:18groups? The answer to maintaining that
- 12:20unity under pressure lies in the unique leadership role that
- 12:23Revelation highlights more than any other New Testament book.
- 12:27The prophet Prophets are mentioned 8 times in Revelation.
- 12:30They are placed on par with apostles and they are explicitly
- 12:33said to face martyrdom for their witness.
- 12:36That is a dangerous job description.
- 12:38Very. David Hill provides a fantastic
- 12:40analysis here, pointing out that Revelation actually lacks some
- 12:43of the typical features of standard apocalyptic literature.
- 12:47Wait, most apocalyptic literature from that era is
- 12:49highly stylized and usually pseudonymous, right?
- 12:52Yes, exactly. The author usually pretends to
- 12:54be an ancient figure like Enoch or Moses to give the book extra
- 12:59authority. Why is Revelation different?
- 13:03Because it is at its core, a pastoral letter, John uses his
- 13:08real name. He is a known entity to these
- 13:10churches. He is their pastor, currently
- 13:12exiled on the island of Patmos. He's not hiding behind a fake
- 13:15name. No, he makes no pretense to
- 13:18secret elite knowledge available only to a few initiates.
- 13:21It is not a coded Riddle meant for a secret society.
- 13:24It is fundamentally an open communication meant to be read
- 13:27aloud in the gathered congregations.
- 13:30John is a prophet speaking directly to his people.
- 13:32This reminds me of an open source software project designed
- 13:37to counter a malicious operating system.
- 13:39Oh. I like that run with it.
- 13:40Think about it. Rome is the malicious operating
- 13:43system. Emperor worship is the mandatory
- 13:47terms of service that you have to click agree to if you want to
- 13:50participate in society. That's a great analogy.
- 13:52John is writing the patch, the code to resist this malware, and
- 13:58there is no secret code hidden away for a select few elites.
- 14:01The instructions are open source.
- 14:03They are read aloud for the entire congregation, giving
- 14:06every single believer the slaves, the merchants, the
- 14:08wealthy, the poor, the tools to decode and resist the Empire's
- 14:12programming. That analogy holds up
- 14:13beautifully when you consider that the text suggests the
- 14:16church itself is corporately prophetic.
- 14:18Corporately prophetic. Yeah, Tidball points out that
- 14:21John's writing bears all the classic hallmarks of Old
- 14:23Testament prophecy. It is inspired by the Spirit, it
- 14:26uses formulas like these are the words of, and it contains severe
- 14:30judgments on both God's people and the surrounding nations.
- 14:34But it is not just John who is the prophet.
- 14:36The two witnesses mentioned in Chapter 11 are widely understood
- 14:41to symbolize the entire Christian community.
- 14:44The two witnesses in Chapter 11, they prophecy they are killed,
- 14:47their bodies lie in the street of the great city, and then they
- 14:50are resurrected, right. This isn't just about two
- 14:53specific guys. This is the the job description
- 14:56of the whole church. Yes, the corporate nature of
- 14:59this prophetic calling is central to understanding the
- 15:01book. Richard Baucum argues that the
- 15:04Church is meant to confront Rome's idolatry in a massive
- 15:07prophetic conflict. OK, like what?
- 15:09He compares it to Moses confronting Pharaoh and his
- 15:12magicians, or Elijah facing down Jezebel and the prophets of
- 15:16Baal. Those are heavy hitters.
- 15:17Think about those Old Testament showdowns.
- 15:20Moses didn't just ask Pharaoh politely to let the people go,
- 15:24he systematically dismantled the authority of the Egyptian gods
- 15:28through the plagues. Right, it was a theological
- 15:30takedown. And Elijah didn't just disagree
- 15:33with the prophets of Baal, he set up a public high stakes
- 15:36demonstration of who the true God was on Mount Carmel.
- 15:40With the fire from heaven. Right.
- 15:42The entire church functions as a school of the prophets in this
- 15:45exact same way. They do not just sit passively
- 15:48and receive John's message, they are actively equipped by the
- 15:52Spirit to bear their own witness to the hostile world around
- 15:55them. Although I should know that
- 15:56Tidball mentions one single negative use of the word prophet
- 16:00in Revelation 11.10 regarding 2 witnesses who harm the city and
- 16:04people of God. Wait, wait, actually let me
- 16:06clarify that the negative use is referring to the false prophet
- 16:09in the later chapters, one who deceives the inhabitants of the
- 16:12earth to worship the beast. Right, the false prophet.
- 16:14The two witnesses in Chapter 11 are the true faithful Church.
- 16:19The false prophet acts as the propaganda arm of the state.
- 16:22But that contrast just throws into sharp relief the
- 16:25overwhelmingly positive, vital calling of the true Church to
- 16:29bear faithful witness. They are the counter propaganda.
- 16:33And to execute this corporate prophecy effectively, the Church
- 16:37cannot rely on human willpower. No, definitely not.
- 16:40You do not face down a Roman arena just because you have
- 16:43strong willpower. You need a supreme source of
- 16:46inspiration. This brings us to the
- 16:48theological framework John lays out early in the book and
- 16:51chapter one we read about the seven spirits before God's
- 16:54throne, which builds on the imagery from Zechariah Chapter 4
- 16:58all. Right, let's explain this like I
- 16:59am five years old. Seven spirits sounds bizarre to
- 17:03a modern year. Are there 7 different holy
- 17:05spirits? And what is the imagery in
- 17:07Zechariah chapter 4 doing here? Why did it matter to a 1st
- 17:10century Jew? In Zechariah 4, the Prophet sees
- 17:14a solid gold lamp stand with a bowl at the top and seven lamps
- 17:17on it. There are two 2 olive trees
- 17:18beside it, continually dripping oil directly into the bowl.
- 17:21OK, I can picture that. Zechariah asks what this means,
- 17:24and the Angel says not by might nor by power, but by my spirit,
- 17:29says the Lord Almighty. The lampstand represents God's
- 17:32witness in the world, and the oil is the endless, unceasing
- 17:35supply of God's Spirit that. Makes a lot of sense.
- 17:38The number 7 in Hebrew literature represents
- 17:41completeness, perfection or fullness.
- 17:43So when John speaks to the seven spirits, he's not saying there
- 17:47are 7 distinct spirits. He is referring to the absolute
- 17:50perfect fullness of God's active spirit at work in the world.
- 17:54This is the Spirit who continually fuels the Church.
- 17:57This Spirit inspires the prophet to expose false idols, to
- 18:01proclaim Christ's reign, and to bring messages of both rebuke
- 18:04and judgment. And that spirit is entirely
- 18:06focused on one specific person, Revelation 19.10 says.
- 18:10For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
- 18:13Jesus is the center of it all. He is portrayed as the slain yet
- 18:17triumphant Lamb who is actively orchestrating all of human
- 18:20history. He's running the show.
- 18:21The Spirit's role is to reveal the true identity of this Lamb,
- 18:25who alone is worthy of worship. Look at the contrast John is
- 18:28making. Rome worships power, military
- 18:31conquest and domination represented by the beast, right?
- 18:35The Church worships a lamb looking as if it had been slain.
- 18:38It is a complete inversion of what the world considers
- 18:41powerful. And how John communicates that
- 18:43inversion is brilliant. We have to look at the specific
- 18:46communication strategy he uses. The scholar GR Beasley Murray
- 18:50compares John's writing to a contemporary political cartoon.
- 18:53I want to stretch this political cartoon analogy because it is
- 18:57the key to unlocking the whole book.
- 18:58Please do. How does a political cartoon
- 19:01work today? If a cartoonist wants to make a
- 19:03point about the national debt crushing the middle class, they
- 19:06don't draw a literal spreadsheet.
- 19:08That'd be. Boring.
- 19:09Right. They draw an average guy
- 19:10carrying a massive suffocating anvil labeled Debt while a fat
- 19:14cat in a suit looks on. It uses exaggerated symbols,
- 19:18animals, monstrous figures, distorted features to convey a
- 19:21striking truth about a political situation without necessarily
- 19:24naming the individuals directly. Spot on.
- 19:27John writes of beasts, bowls, trumpets and uses symbolic names
- 19:31like Babylon for Rome and Jerusalem for the true people of
- 19:35God. He deliberately exaggerates
- 19:37these images to make the spiritual reality undeniably
- 19:41plain to the believers. This allows John to speak
- 19:44entirely treasonous truths about the Roman Empire in a medium
- 19:48that believers can easily decode, while Roman authorities
- 19:51might read it and just see baffling mythical nonsense.
- 19:54Yeah, they. 'D just be confused.
- 19:56A Roman centurion intercepts this letter, reads about a multi
- 19:59headed dragon chasing a woman into the wilderness and throws
- 20:02it in the trash thinking it's just the lunatic ravings of an
- 20:05old man on Patmos. But the church reads it and they
- 20:08see the reality of imperial oppression.
- 20:11The symbol bypasses the censor. It bypasses the censor, but
- 20:14crucially, it also bypasses trauma.
- 20:16What do you mean by that? How does a symbol bypass trauma?
- 20:19Think about the psychology of persecution.
- 20:22If you are a believer whose brother was just executed in the
- 20:25arena, or whose shop was just burned down by a mob, your
- 20:28nervous system is in a state of absolute overload.
- 20:31You're in fight or flight. Right reading a dry theological
- 20:35treatise on the sovereignty of God might not penetrate that
- 20:37trauma, but an apocalyptic image, a vision of a beast
- 20:42rising from the sea, validates the sheer monstrous horror of
- 20:46what you're experiencing. It matches what they feel
- 20:48inside. It says yes, this empire is a
- 20:51monster, your terror is justified.
- 20:53But then it immediately shifts the camera to heaven, showing
- 20:57the Lamb on the throne holding the scroll of human history.
- 21:00It engages the imagination, which is often the only part of
- 21:03the human mind still accessible when the rational mind is shut
- 21:06down by severe trauma. That is a staggering insight.
- 21:10The apocalyptic imagery provides cognitive relief to someone
- 21:13living in constant terror. And the key to decoding this
- 21:16cartoon, the key to understanding the imagery, is
- 21:19the Old Testament. It's heavily saturated in it.
- 21:21Tidball notes the massive volume of Old Testament illusions and
- 21:24revelation. Commentators agree that Isaiah,
- 21:27Daniel, Ezekiel, and the Psalms are the most frequently
- 21:29referenced. John uses these illusions
- 21:32analogically, by contrast or to show direct.
- 21:35Fulfillment, He really does. Why does John use the term
- 21:37Babylon instead of just saying Rome?
- 21:39Because Babylon is the ultimate Old Testament archetype of a
- 21:43proud humanistic empire that opposes God and crushes his
- 21:47people. By calling Rome Babylon, John is
- 21:51tapping into centuries of Israel's history.
- 21:54It carries all that weight. The depth of that Old Testament
- 21:57connection cannot be overstated. John Sweet counted 40 Senate
- 22:00allusions from Isaiah, 31 from Daniel, 29 from Ezekiel, and 27
- 22:06from the Psalms. That is just incredible.
- 22:08John is completely immersed in the language and thought forms
- 22:11of the Hebrew scriptures. He uses that framework to
- 22:13describe the terrifying world the church is facing, giving
- 22:16them a theological vocabulary to interpret their.
- 22:19Suffering it grounds them. By drawing on Daniel's beasts or
- 22:22Ezekiel's visions, John is telling the church God has
- 22:25handled massive, arrogant empires before.
- 22:28He broke Babylon, he broke Persia, he broke Greece, and he
- 22:32is handling Rome right now. But this raises a huge issue for
- 22:35how people read the book today. Oh, here we go.
- 22:37If the entire book functions like a 1st century political
- 22:41cartoon meant to comfort traumatized believers in Asia
- 22:44Minor, does that mean modern readers are missing the forest
- 22:47for the trees? Often, yes.
- 22:49People today spend countless hours trying to map every single
- 22:52horn, every trumpet and every seal on into specific modern
- 22:56events like helicopters, microchips, or specific
- 22:59political leaders. Are we completely abusing the
- 23:04text when we do that? When we treat revelation is a
- 23:07timeline of future events or a crystal ball for the Evening
- 23:10News, we completely strip it of its pastoral intent.
- 23:14We rob it of its original meaning.
- 23:15We turn it into a puzzle. Exactly, and John was writing a
- 23:18form of Christian exhortation and encouragement to real people
- 23:21facing real death in the 1st century.
- 23:24The symbols were meant to reveal the monstrous nature of state
- 23:27idolatry and the assured victory of the Lamb.
- 23:30If we lose that focus, we lose the Pastor Prophet's entire
- 23:33message. It's tragic when you put it like
- 23:34that. Which brings us to how John
- 23:36successfully merges several distinct leadership roles to
- 23:39accomplish this massive task. Yes, the merging of the pastor,
- 23:43the prophet, and the teacher. 1st Corinthians 14 tells us that
- 23:46prophecy is meant for strengthening encouragement and
- 23:50comfort, but Hans von Kampenhausen makes a very
- 23:53helpful distinction between prophets and teachers in the
- 23:56early church. Let's unpack the mechanics of
- 23:58this. Von Kampenhausen argues that
- 24:00prophets brought a fluid, immediate word from God,
- 24:02focusing on proclamation. They were the ones saying, Thus
- 24:06says the Lord, right now, right? Teachers, on the other hand,
- 24:09were circumscribed by tradition. Their job was to carefully
- 24:12expound Old Testament texts, hand down the established faith,
- 24:16and make sure everyone understood the doctrine.
- 24:18What is remarkable is that John refuses to separate the those
- 24:21roles. He acts as a meticulous teacher,
- 24:24heavily expounding the Old Testament to give his readers a
- 24:27solid intellectual framework. He is grounding them in covenant
- 24:30theology. But he also acts as a prophet,
- 24:33delivering a highly immediate, vivid declaration of God's
- 24:36victory over the mission's empire.
- 24:39He uses the prophetic tradition to instruct the church, digging
- 24:42into recurring scriptural themes to provide far more than simple
- 24:46sound bite promises. Because sound bites don't hold
- 24:48up in the arena. No, they don't.
- 24:50He wants to ensure their patient perseverance is built on a rock
- 24:54solid theological foundation of God's absolute sovereignty.
- 24:58And as a pastor, John completely rejects superficial comfort.
- 25:02This is the part of Tidball's analysis that hits the hardest.
- 25:05It's very confronting. When people are going through
- 25:07terrible suffering, the temptation is to offer cheap
- 25:10platitudes. John avoids all of that.
- 25:13He never says don't worry, the persecution might blow over.
- 25:17Or just look on the bright side. Maybe the next emperor will be
- 25:20nicer. That would just be cruel,
- 25:22honestly. He doesn't even offer a
- 25:23thoughtless, out of context quote of Romans 8.28.
- 25:27Instead, he enters fully into the absolute horror of the
- 25:30onslaught they're about to face. He there's them nothing, he
- 25:33tells them. Some of you are going to be
- 25:34thrown into prison, some of you were going to be killed.
- 25:37Validating their fear is a psychological of spiritual
- 25:40necessity. By not minimizing the threat of
- 25:43demissions cruelty, John establishes immense credibility
- 25:46with his readers. They know he's telling the
- 25:48truth. He acknowledges that the forces
- 25:50of destruction, the beast from the sea, the beast from the
- 25:52earth, would annihilate them if they could.
- 25:55But after validating that terror, he offers a hope that is
- 25:59demonstrably stronger than death.
- 26:01The ultimate hope. He paints A vivid picture of
- 26:03Satan and his companions being banished to the lake of burning
- 26:06sulfur and the ultimate restoration of Eden, where God
- 26:09dwells with his people in the new heavens and the new earth.
- 26:13It's beautiful. He proves, proves that the worst
- 26:15case scenario, martyrdom is not a defeat, it is not an accident,
- 26:20it is a participation in the victory of the Lamb.
- 26:23I think of it like a doctor giving a severe diagnosis to a
- 26:26patient. Go on.
- 26:28A bad doctor wanting to avoid discomfort and wanting to keep
- 26:31the mood light might say you'll be fine.
- 26:33Don't worry about it. Take some aspirin.
- 26:34Which doesn't help at all. Right.
- 26:36That leaves the patient completely unprepared for the
- 26:39reality of the illness when it ravages their body.
- 26:42A great doctor looks you in the eye and says this disease is
- 26:45highly aggressive. The treatment is going to be
- 26:47brutal, you are going to lose your hair, you're going to be
- 26:49sick and it will be the hardest thing you've ever done.
- 26:53But there is a cure. Yes, the great doctor says.
- 26:56But I have the precise medical protocol that will cure you, and
- 27:00I will be with you through every single step of it.
- 27:03John is that great doctor. He details the brutality of the
- 27:06beast, but prescribes the absolute triumph of the lamb.
- 27:09David Hill summarizes the prophetic role beautifully, and
- 27:13it applies directly to what John achieved as this pastor,
- 27:16prophet, teacher. What does he say?
- 27:18Prophets speak with authority. They address a community that is
- 27:22itself called to be prophetic in its daily life.
- 27:24They interpret history through a theological lens.
- 27:27They reinterpret the Old Testament in light of Jesus
- 27:30Christ. All of those pieces coming
- 27:32together. And they do all of this to keep
- 27:34the church persevering and faithful when compromised with
- 27:37the culture would be the easiest, safest, and most
- 27:41economically viable option. John's writing is the ultimate
- 27:45example of this pastoral prophetic synthesis.
- 27:48So what does this all mean? As we wrap up this deep dive,
- 27:51the main take away is incredibly clear.
- 27:54It really is. The Book of Revelation is far
- 27:56from a cryptic puzzle meant to confuse us or a massive code
- 28:00book for end times survivalists. It is a brilliant Old Testament
- 28:06saturated survival guide. Yes, it was written by a pastor
- 28:09prophet who loved his people enough to tell them the
- 28:11terrifying truth to encourage a Kingdom of priests facing total
- 28:15life threatening hostility. And that brings it directly back
- 28:18to you, the listener. Imagine you are sitting in a
- 28:21covert house church today. You might not be facing the
- 28:23specific arena torments of the 1st century or a Roman emperor
- 28:27demanding incense. Most of us aren't.
- 28:28But if you are experiencing hostility in your workplace, if
- 28:32you are feeling economically marginalized for your
- 28:34convictions, or if you feel overwhelmed by a culture that
- 28:38demands your total uncritical allegiance to its ideologies,
- 28:43you are participating in the exact same corporate prophetic
- 28:47witness that John was writing about.
- 28:48You are part of that Kingdom. You're part of that Kingdom of
- 28:51priests called to declare that Jesus, not the state, not the
- 28:55culture, and not the economy, is the true ruler of the kings of
- 28:59the earth. Spot on.
- 29:01Which leaves us with a final thought to Mull over.
- 29:04John used the vivid, wildly exaggerated symbols of beasts
- 29:08and Babylon to reveal the true monstrous nature of the Roman
- 29:12Empire to his congregation. He pulled back the curtain.
- 29:15He really did. He showed them what was really
- 29:17going on behind the scenes of their daily suffering.
- 29:20If John were sitting down to write a pastoral letter to us
- 29:22today, utilizing the exact same strategy, what political
- 29:26cartoons or symbols might he use to expose the modern ideologies,
- 29:29economic systems, or cultural forces that demand our absolute
- 29:33loyalty today? That is a challenging question.
- 29:35What does the beast look like in our century?
- 29:38Thank you for joining us on Reformed Thinking.
- 29:40We will see you next time.