Latest / The Breakfast Club / Best of 2025 - BEST MOMENTS - Will Packer, David Oyelowo, Jess Fix My Mess, Relationship Pet Peeve, Recorded 2025.
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Good morning Usa yo yo yo yo yo yo yo
- 0:03Speaker 1: yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo
- 0:05Speaker 1: yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo.
- 0:07Speaker 2: Yo yo jess Hilario ass some morning, and currently we
- 0:10Speaker 2: are on vacation.
- 0:12Speaker 1: Man, totally disconnected. Yes, we're not even really here. You
- 0:15Speaker 1: think you're listening to us, but we're not.
- 0:16Speaker 2: Well, we are not. We're here in spirit.
- 0:19Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we're on vacation.
- 0:21Speaker 4: So we're playing the best Donkey's the best interviews you guys,
- 0:25Speaker 4: which is the best callers and some of the best
- 0:27Speaker 4: moments the Breakfast Club has had in the last couple
- 0:29Speaker 4: of months. So sit back, relax, enjoy, and have fun.
- 0:32Speaker 2: Keep a lock.
- 0:32Speaker 5: Red is gonna be running the boards.
- 0:34Speaker 2: It's the Breakfast Club.
- 0:35Speaker 3: Good morning.
- 0:36Speaker 2: A mood days is.
- 0:37Speaker 5: If your time to get it off your chest, way.
- 0:40Speaker 3: Up, whether you're.
- 0:41Speaker 2: Man or black, time to get up and get some
- 0:44Speaker 2: call up now. Eight hundred and five eighty five one
- 0:46Speaker 2: O five one. We want to hear from you on
- 0:48Speaker 2: the Breakfast Club. Hey, Nadine, good morning, get it off
- 0:51Speaker 2: your chest. Where you calling him from?
- 0:52Speaker 5: First?
- 0:52Speaker 6: I'm calling from Dallas, Okay, Dallas, what's up, Mama.
- 0:57Speaker 7: I'm under It's a fact girl's side of dating and
- 1:02Speaker 7: I was so great.
- 1:04Speaker 8: Guys, kick it up and read it.
- 1:06Speaker 2: How the data fact chick?
- 1:07Speaker 5: Yes?
- 1:09Speaker 3: Is it a heavy read?
- 1:10Speaker 2: Is it thick?
- 1:11Speaker 5: Like?
- 1:11Speaker 2: How many pages is it?
- 1:15Speaker 3: How many pages?
- 1:16Speaker 9: Is It's not that it's not that that thick.
- 1:20Speaker 8: It's like one hundred and sixteen pages. But it's the
- 1:22Speaker 8: one day read. But it's a great.
- 1:24Speaker 2: Story about about your what my dating life?
- 1:30Speaker 1: Oh you're a big girl, a dull I'm done. She
- 1:33Speaker 1: might not be big no more. It might be her
- 1:35Speaker 1: past life she's writing about.
- 1:37Speaker 2: It was hard, it was hot for you today.
- 1:39Speaker 10: No, it's a shy.
- 1:40Speaker 11: Spirical look at my dating life because it's the things
- 1:42Speaker 11: that I went through and the lessons that I learned
- 1:44Speaker 11: along the way.
- 1:45Speaker 1: Okay, I'd love to read that I had a I
- 1:47Speaker 1: had a homegirl who wrote something like that before it.
- 1:49Speaker 3: Was called dating Wild Fat Wow.
- 1:51Speaker 9: Well yeah, it's on Amazon, so it's by Nadine Jones.
- 1:55Speaker 7: Was just see me and again, how to data fact
- 1:59Speaker 7: A fat girl to dating?
- 2:00Speaker 2: Okay?
- 2:01Speaker 3: What category is it in food?
- 2:03Speaker 8: Home?
- 2:03Speaker 3: Jesus? What is it like? What categories?
- 2:07Speaker 12: It's not it should be I'm asking you.
- 2:10Speaker 7: I don't know what category is, but it's comedy.
- 2:13Speaker 8: I think tericall So you're the type of in your finece.
- 2:16Speaker 3: What's it called again?
- 2:17Speaker 7: How to Date a Fat Chick?
- 2:20Speaker 4: So if God takes you out to eat, do you
- 2:22Speaker 4: limit the food that you have so you don't look big?
- 2:25Speaker 2: You gotta read the book.
- 2:26Speaker 3: You're right, I'm sorry it came up as a cookbook.
- 2:29Speaker 2: You know it didn't shut up?
- 2:30Speaker 1: You know, How to Date a Fat Chick? Background Gods
- 2:34Speaker 1: Are Dating by Nadine Jones.
- 2:35Speaker 2: Alkay.
- 2:36Speaker 3: I like the couple.
- 2:37Speaker 5: I like that. I like that.
- 2:38Speaker 3: It looks like what do you call that? A cob
- 2:39Speaker 3: of a cob?
- 2:40Speaker 2: What do you call that?
- 2:41Speaker 5: Book?
- 2:43Speaker 10: Yeah? Whatever that?
- 2:44Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that composition? Composition?
- 2:49Speaker 2: But you have a go one. They did. Thank you
- 2:52Speaker 2: you too, good luck.
- 2:53Speaker 3: Hello?
- 2:54Speaker 2: Who's this?
- 2:55Speaker 7: What's going on?
- 2:56Speaker 10: Man?
- 2:56Speaker 8: My name is super Truck and man I'm out of
- 2:58Speaker 8: eastern North Carolina, a man truck driver.
- 3:01Speaker 2: What's up, super truck? How you feeling this morning?
- 3:03Speaker 10: Man? I'm good man. I'm out here shifting kids, making
- 3:06Speaker 10: that black come out to fight?
- 3:08Speaker 2: Okay, all right, what you transporting?
- 3:10Speaker 3: I do?
- 3:11Speaker 7: Flat Dad from Hall and Building Materials right now?
- 3:13Speaker 2: Okay, all right, we'll be safe.
- 3:15Speaker 10: For the yo man, I just want to know. Man,
- 3:18Speaker 10: y'all got love for truckers.
- 3:19Speaker 2: Man, you damn right.
- 3:20Speaker 12: I got love for truckers.
- 3:22Speaker 13: You know.
- 3:23Speaker 5: I know YouTube?
- 3:23Speaker 10: Chess. Hey, look, I got a storm called Truck of Love.
- 3:27Speaker 8: Man, So y'all geld his hand.
- 3:30Speaker 10: Check it out.
- 3:31Speaker 9: It's on YouTube.
- 3:32Speaker 2: You still got love for truck and Jesse blow home
- 3:36Speaker 2: for his brother.
- 3:36Speaker 1: I got you all right, man, be safe for them?
- 3:41Speaker 9: Brother?
- 3:42Speaker 5: Hello?
- 3:43Speaker 2: Who's this?
- 3:44Speaker 10: Yo? What's upping me?
- 3:46Speaker 2: What's up?
- 3:46Speaker 5: Brother?
- 3:47Speaker 10: What's up? Jess?
- 3:48Speaker 2: How y'all doing? What that baby?
- 3:50Speaker 1: Good?
- 3:50Speaker 13: Good?
- 3:50Speaker 2: What's going on? Get it off your chest?
- 3:52Speaker 12: Yo?
- 3:52Speaker 10: I'm mad at my brother James.
- 3:55Speaker 2: What's your brother do?
- 3:56Speaker 10: He's yo? He set me up. I'm sick last night,
- 4:00Speaker 10: I'm feeling well. I'm at home and he lied to
- 4:03Speaker 10: his wife telling her that he was hanging out with
- 4:06Speaker 10: me all night and he wasn't.
- 4:08Speaker 12: Oh man, I ain't tell you.
- 4:12Speaker 10: He ain't tell me because I was dead to the world.
- 4:14Speaker 10: And his wife's called my wife asking her was he was.
- 4:19Speaker 5: He with me?
- 4:20Speaker 2: Oh?
- 4:21Speaker 12: Man?
- 4:21Speaker 2: What your wife say? Yo?
- 4:24Speaker 10: She blew his spot up like hell no, you want
- 4:26Speaker 10: to see the cameras.
- 4:28Speaker 2: Damn.
- 4:29Speaker 8: She blew him up.
- 4:30Speaker 10: And he's calling me up. She told him, by Yo,
- 4:33Speaker 10: you're supposed to help me up. I'm like, yo, you
- 4:34Speaker 10: should have told me first.
- 4:36Speaker 2: I hate with somebody.
- 4:37Speaker 12: Make you a part of the lie, but don't tell
- 4:39Speaker 12: you about the lie.
- 4:40Speaker 5: Like damn dow he man because he say, now, I'm
- 4:43Speaker 5: the reason why his.
- 4:45Speaker 10: Wife is putting him out. Now he wants to come
- 4:47Speaker 10: and stay.
- 4:48Speaker 2: In my house.
- 4:49Speaker 4: Hell, you got the reason, and your wife ain't gonn
- 4:51Speaker 4: let him stay. Your wife's gonna let no cheat.
- 4:53Speaker 10: At the guys, I'm shutting him over to you, envy.
- 4:57Speaker 2: I'm not sitting over to me. I got a couple
- 4:59Speaker 2: of dogs at a make sure he stay out.
- 5:03Speaker 10: I hear that everything every when you throw it another
- 5:05Speaker 10: mixture tape out. Man, come on shop.
- 5:07Speaker 5: Playing, you'd be rapping.
- 5:09Speaker 2: You're talking about the DJ. You be rapid.
- 5:13Speaker 4: Yeah, you're gonna get that in a while. Brother, you
- 5:15Speaker 4: know it ain't gonna happen.
- 5:17Speaker 2: Bro Oh, come on, v they ain't gonna happen. These
- 5:19Speaker 2: all these artists a lot different, man.
- 5:21Speaker 4: But back then I would say the artists really respected
- 5:24Speaker 4: the DJ and really loved the DJ. When nexus, Yeah,
- 5:27Speaker 4: the artist was something and they would be happy to
- 5:29Speaker 4: do it.
- 5:29Speaker 2: Glad to do it. But now I ain't playing a
- 5:31Speaker 2: politics game.
- 5:32Speaker 3: Brother.
- 5:33Speaker 10: Yeah, I know what you on Bred Cafe.
- 5:35Speaker 4: Man, shout the all right brother, you have a good
- 5:38Speaker 4: one man. All right, brother, get it off your chest.
- 5:41Speaker 4: Eight hundred five eight five one oh five one. If
- 5:43Speaker 4: you need to vent, phone lines a wide open, it's
- 5:45Speaker 4: the Breakfast Club.
- 5:46Speaker 2: Good morning, the Breakfast clubs away.
- 5:53Speaker 3: Is your time to get it off your chest.
- 5:56Speaker 2: Whether you're mad or bless something, to get up and
- 5:59Speaker 2: get something. Call up now. Eight hundred five eighty five
- 6:02Speaker 2: one five one. We want to hear from you on
- 6:04Speaker 2: the Breakfast Club. Hello. Who's this? This is Walt baby
- 6:07Speaker 2: Love from Bridgeport, Connecticut. What's up?
- 6:10Speaker 3: Brother?
- 6:10Speaker 2: What's going on with you?
- 6:11Speaker 7: Hey?
- 6:11Speaker 10: Listen?
- 6:11Speaker 4: I just want to say God bless you charlamagn and
- 6:16Speaker 4: Jef hilarious man for what you do on a daily basis.
- 6:19Speaker 9: Man, it's not easy and you don't get the I
- 6:22Speaker 9: want to give you flowers while you're here.
- 6:25Speaker 5: Man.
- 6:25Speaker 8: You guys help me every day.
- 6:27Speaker 1: Man.
- 6:28Speaker 2: You put me in the right direction, You.
- 6:30Speaker 10: Keep me safe, and I just want the positive vibe
- 6:34Speaker 10: to come back to you guys on a daily basis.
- 6:36Speaker 1: Man.
- 6:36Speaker 7: I love y'all.
- 6:37Speaker 10: Man, Thank you, welcome you too.
- 6:42Speaker 2: Hello, who's this yo?
- 6:43Speaker 5: What's up?
- 6:44Speaker 8: Audist replay from Chicago?
- 6:45Speaker 5: What up?
- 6:46Speaker 8: Town?
- 6:46Speaker 3: Replay? What's happening?
- 6:48Speaker 8: What up?
- 6:49Speaker 7: What up? Man?
- 6:49Speaker 8: Look, I gotta give a shout out this morning to
- 6:51Speaker 8: Lauren Leosa.
- 6:53Speaker 10: Man.
- 6:53Speaker 8: She been holding down man, she been coming with good news,
- 6:56Speaker 8: good stack. Me and her the same age, man, and
- 6:59Speaker 8: I just love my age. Go hard and then baby girl,
- 7:03Speaker 8: keep doing what you're doing. You know that's what.
- 7:05Speaker 14: Thank you.
- 7:06Speaker 6: I appreciate that, no doubt, no doubt.
- 7:11Speaker 2: Talking to you.
- 7:12Speaker 3: Yeah, what were you saying?
- 7:14Speaker 13: King?
- 7:14Speaker 4: Go ahead a king?
- 7:17Speaker 8: Oh yeah?
- 7:17Speaker 5: Man?
- 7:18Speaker 8: Look like I said, I'm replaying. I want to probably
- 7:20Speaker 8: be on on Instagram at lady love.
- 7:23Speaker 3: Why they call you replay?
- 7:24Speaker 9: Bro?
- 7:24Speaker 12: Oh man?
- 7:25Speaker 8: That's actually then they gave me. I'm an R and
- 7:26Speaker 8: B singer and uh, I don't know one of the
- 7:28Speaker 8: guys like replay. I'm like, all right, because I want
- 7:31Speaker 8: everybody to replay my phone.
- 7:33Speaker 1: Okay, brother, have a good put a little more sauce
- 7:37Speaker 1: on that. You know what I'm saying. You got to
- 7:38Speaker 1: come up with something better. Why they call you replay?
- 7:40Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 7:41Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
- 7:41Speaker 1: Because when I put it down, you know, ladies love
- 7:43Speaker 1: it so much they want to see it again something you.
- 7:46Speaker 5: Know what I mean?
- 7:46Speaker 8: Like this happened right with facts?
- 7:51Speaker 3: Oh okay, I didn't.
- 7:52Speaker 2: Know something else.
- 7:54Speaker 3: I thought he was telling me he wasn't in the women.
- 7:56Speaker 11: I didn't know.
- 7:57Speaker 3: I'm like, what, excuse me?
- 7:58Speaker 5: Hello?
- 7:58Speaker 3: Who is this?
- 8:00Speaker 8: This is Jake Metal?
- 8:02Speaker 2: J Madaw?
- 8:03Speaker 5: What's up?
- 8:03Speaker 2: If your chance?
- 8:04Speaker 5: Ja Metal?
- 8:05Speaker 2: The morning?
- 8:05Speaker 8: You know I'm stressed. You know, I'm tired of people
- 8:08Speaker 8: always asking you, you know how you getting old? But
- 8:11Speaker 8: now you're gonna get married? And I tell him in
- 8:13Speaker 8: a minute.
- 8:14Speaker 15: Dog.
- 8:14Speaker 8: You know they're always telling you women and to get a.
- 8:17Speaker 9: New job, and I tell them in a minute.
- 8:19Speaker 5: Though.
- 8:20Speaker 1: You know, everyone has their own page and they want
- 8:22Speaker 1: to put you to a standard.
- 8:24Speaker 10: And do things.
- 8:25Speaker 8: You know how you do me, I've just turned thirty.
- 8:29Speaker 3: That's what I didn't know.
- 8:30Speaker 1: Men get that kind of pressure. I didn't know men
- 8:32Speaker 1: get that. That's not that's husually pressure that's reserved for women.
- 8:35Speaker 1: I'm talking about the marriage party.
- 8:37Speaker 16: Do you have kids yet?
- 8:39Speaker 8: No, That's what I'm saying. The man tell you why
- 8:41Speaker 8: I have a kid?
- 8:41Speaker 9: I tell them in a minute, dog, you know, how
- 8:44Speaker 9: are you me?
- 8:45Speaker 11: I'm getting close to the age, you know, thirty is
- 8:48Speaker 11: you know, it's that is that point.
- 8:50Speaker 1: So don't you when they ask you, you know when
- 8:52Speaker 1: you're gonna get married, just be like I'm in the
- 8:54Speaker 1: men though, just say something.
- 8:55Speaker 3: Like that, you know, think so, yeah, that's what I
- 8:58Speaker 3: tell them.
- 8:58Speaker 2: That right, that's right, that's right.
- 9:01Speaker 4: But that's definitely if you got older parents too, because
- 9:03Speaker 4: older parents want grandparents.
- 9:04Speaker 2: I'm sure. So that's what they ask want grandparents.
- 9:07Speaker 16: Most guys by.
- 9:08Speaker 17: A certain age, if you don't have kids, that'd be
- 9:10Speaker 17: like or you're not married, they think something.
- 9:12Speaker 2: Older parents want grand kids. That's what I'm meaning.
- 9:14Speaker 1: Well, you'll meet you'll meet missus, mister Wright in due time.
- 9:19Speaker 2: Mister or missus, I'm no.
- 9:23Speaker 3: Have a good day, brother. You appreciate you, yes, sir?
- 9:27Speaker 4: All right, brother, get it off your chest eight hundred
- 9:30Speaker 4: five eight five one oh five one. If you need
- 9:32Speaker 4: to vent phone lines to wide Openness to Breakfast Club.
- 9:34Speaker 2: Good morning, the Breakfast Club.
- 9:38Speaker 4: Warning everybody, it's DJ Envy, just hilarious charlamage the god
- 9:43Speaker 4: we are the Breakfast Club law La Rosa is here
- 9:45Speaker 4: as well. We got a special guest in the building,
- 9:47Speaker 4: his new book, Who Better Than You The Art of
- 9:49Speaker 4: Healthy arrogance and dreaming big is out now, ladies and gentlemen.
- 9:52Speaker 2: Will Packer family, what's going on.
- 9:56Speaker 3: And how you feel?
- 9:57Speaker 2: I'm feeling amazing, you know, I'm up here.
- 9:59Speaker 18: I'm up here with one of the most incredible platforms
- 10:01Speaker 18: in media right now.
- 10:02Speaker 2: Interesting time in media, you know, media ebbs and flows.
- 10:05Speaker 18: We're in an EBB right now in the movie business, Charlamagne,
- 10:08Speaker 18: you know, yeah, just you know, coming off the strikes,
- 10:11Speaker 18: coming off of COVID, like, the movie industry never really recalibrated.
- 10:14Speaker 18: So there's a lot of folks out there that are
- 10:16Speaker 18: hurting right now, a lot of folks that aren't working,
- 10:18Speaker 18: a lot of actors out of work, writers, and so
- 10:19Speaker 18: as a producer, you know, I'm just trying to keep
- 10:22Speaker 18: people hired, trying to do what I do and create content.
- 10:24Speaker 18: Most people out there, they don't realize because there's so
- 10:27Speaker 18: much content out there in so many streaming servicess like, oh,
- 10:30Speaker 18: everything out there, I can see whatever I want. But
- 10:32Speaker 18: actually the media companies are making a lot less. So
- 10:35Speaker 18: it's interesting time in the business.
- 10:36Speaker 5: Man.
- 10:37Speaker 12: Who better than you is the name of the book.
- 10:38Speaker 12: What makes you decide to write this?
- 10:40Speaker 5: Yo?
- 10:40Speaker 18: You know, I have been in the movie game for
- 10:44Speaker 18: almost thirty years now, and I have dealt with some
- 10:47Speaker 18: of the biggest names, some of the most impressive, successful people,
- 10:52Speaker 18: some of the most toxic, insecure people. And throughout that process,
- 10:58Speaker 18: I have the set of skills that I want to
- 11:02Speaker 18: share with people about how you can be successful and
- 11:06Speaker 18: manifest the more full life. How you can use some
- 11:09Speaker 18: of the skills that I've learned that are transferable to
- 11:12Speaker 18: any industry to navigate be it. You want to start
- 11:16Speaker 18: a new endeavor, you want to overcome a challenge, you
- 11:18Speaker 18: want to pivot in your life. And so I'm telling
- 11:21Speaker 18: stories I've never told before, stories from dealing with you know,
- 11:24Speaker 18: some of my Hollywood folks. But it's really lessons, right,
- 11:27Speaker 18: It's lessons about this is how you deal with people,
- 11:31Speaker 18: how you position yourself to succeed, and how you have
- 11:35Speaker 18: healthy arrogance.
- 11:36Speaker 2: Now to be confused with toxic arrogance.
- 11:38Speaker 18: Right, toxic arrogant walks in the room and says, I'm
- 11:40Speaker 18: better than everybody here. I'm gonna win because you're gonna lose. Right,
- 11:44Speaker 18: I'm better than you. Healthy arrogance walks in a room
- 11:47Speaker 18: and says, okay, number one, I belong in this room. Right,
- 11:51Speaker 18: the most successful people feel that they don't feel like
- 11:54Speaker 18: am I supposed to be here with all these important people.
- 11:56Speaker 18: Healthy arrogance feels like I'm supposed to be here. However,
- 11:59Speaker 18: I also have something.
- 12:00Speaker 5: To add to this room.
- 12:02Speaker 18: This room is better because I'm in it, and I'm
- 12:04Speaker 18: going to get other people to understand how they and
- 12:08Speaker 18: I have a commonality in terms of our goal. If
- 12:11Speaker 18: you can get other people to see the value in
- 12:12Speaker 18: what you're going after, then you can then get them
- 12:16Speaker 18: to row in the same direction as you.
- 12:18Speaker 2: And work towards your own goal. That's what leadership is.
- 12:20Speaker 18: Getting other people to realize that it's not me against you.
- 12:24Speaker 18: If I can get you to understand that together we
- 12:27Speaker 18: both benefit from working together and accomplishing things that are
- 12:31Speaker 18: my goals as well as your goals, your chance for
- 12:33Speaker 18: success is increased.
- 12:35Speaker 3: You know, when I read about.
- 12:37Speaker 1: You talk about healthy arrogance or hear your interview is
- 12:38Speaker 1: about healthy ar against it feels like you're saying you
- 12:40Speaker 1: just got It's like a sense of worthiness, it's value.
- 12:44Speaker 18: It is it is very much understanding the value to
- 12:47Speaker 18: place on yourself.
- 12:48Speaker 5: Right.
- 12:48Speaker 18: You understand, Charlotte Man, because you talk about mental health
- 12:50Speaker 18: a lot we all have this drum beat in our head, right,
- 12:53Speaker 18: it can be a negative drum beat of I'm not ready,
- 12:55Speaker 18: I'm not worthy, I don't have the skills, I'm not prepared.
- 12:58Speaker 2: More and more you tell yourself that, the louder those
- 13:00Speaker 2: voices get.
- 13:01Speaker 18: But there's a confidence muscle that you can build, that
- 13:04Speaker 18: you can grow by telling yourself the exact opposite, that
- 13:07Speaker 18: I am worth it, right, that I am prepared.
- 13:09Speaker 2: But it's really about assigning value.
- 13:11Speaker 18: The thing I say to people that understand, from the
- 13:13Speaker 18: time you are born and to the time you leave
- 13:16Speaker 18: this earth, you are building your brand everything you do, right.
- 13:20Speaker 18: I mean, you can't make mistakes. Everybody does. But every
- 13:23Speaker 18: decision you make in everything you do is building your brand,
- 13:25Speaker 18: and it is telling people what value to assign to you.
- 13:29Speaker 2: Whether that's somebody that is looking to.
- 13:31Speaker 18: Invest in you, looking to date you, looking to just
- 13:33Speaker 18: hang out with you, you are telling them what your
- 13:37Speaker 18: value is. And you have to be healthily arrogant in
- 13:41Speaker 18: the way that you force other people to recognize your value.
- 13:46Speaker 2: Damn.
- 13:46Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 13:47Speaker 3: So if you don't have nobody, does that mean you
- 13:48Speaker 3: know worth nothing?
- 13:49Speaker 18: Well, you know I'm not gonna say that. Well, you
- 13:51Speaker 18: mean like a relationship. Well, that just means that you
- 13:54Speaker 18: have to be sure that you're surrounding yourself with people
- 13:57Speaker 18: that understand your value. It might mean that you're worth
- 14:00Speaker 18: more than people want to give you credit for talking about.
- 14:03Speaker 18: It might mean you're single because other people don't recognize
- 14:07Speaker 18: your value and you're not willing to compromise for you.
- 14:09Speaker 16: Had something to satte?
- 14:11Speaker 1: What dog will won't they next?
- 14:21Speaker 16: Coming this way?
- 14:24Speaker 2: The sassiness caught me off. God, is that what it is?
- 14:28Speaker 2: Are you with your hair back?
- 14:31Speaker 3: I'm just asking you a question because I like what
- 14:33Speaker 3: you're talking about.
- 14:33Speaker 18: Okay, all right, well yes, absolutely so if some you know,
- 14:36Speaker 18: somebody happens to be an amazing, beautiful single sister. I
- 14:39Speaker 18: don't know you know the relationship status of everybody here,
- 14:42Speaker 18: but let's just say present company. Why Well, and she
- 14:48Speaker 18: said you had a sassy next, so she is. She
- 14:51Speaker 18: is immediately the most entertaining.
- 14:52Speaker 5: Person that.
- 14:54Speaker 17: I want to ask you about imposter syndrome and when
- 14:57Speaker 17: you when did that? Like, when you get past that?
- 15:00Speaker 17: Did you deal with that at all yourself?
- 15:01Speaker 18: I absolutely deal with everybody deals with Everybody gets to
- 15:05Speaker 18: a point where they feel.
- 15:06Speaker 2: Like, yo, do I belong?
- 15:08Speaker 5: Right?
- 15:08Speaker 18: Do I deserve to be in the most important spaces,
- 15:12Speaker 18: and I've been very, very fortunate to be in some
- 15:14Speaker 18: incredible rooms with some people that are, you know, some
- 15:16Speaker 18: of the most powerful people from around the world. As
- 15:19Speaker 18: I said, what I realize is that when I walk
- 15:21Speaker 18: in those rooms, I cannot question if I'm supposed to
- 15:24Speaker 18: be there. I need to realize what is it that
- 15:27Speaker 18: I have that nobody else in this room has, and.
- 15:31Speaker 2: How can I double down on that?
- 15:33Speaker 5: Right?
- 15:34Speaker 18: So, black man, African American film, American Hollywood, not a
- 15:37Speaker 18: lot of folks at my level in the rooms that
- 15:39Speaker 18: I'm in.
- 15:39Speaker 2: Oftentimes it's all white people in those films.
- 15:42Speaker 18: What I choose to do instead of saying, Okay, I'm
- 15:46Speaker 18: the only black person in this room. I know they're racist.
- 15:49Speaker 18: I know they looking at me a certain way. I
- 15:50Speaker 18: know they have a negative perception. I'm walking in the
- 15:52Speaker 18: room and I'm thinking, Okay, you know what, I'm bringing
- 15:54Speaker 18: something that nobody else can bring. When I talk about
- 15:57Speaker 18: my perspective, when I talk about my audience, when I
- 15:59Speaker 18: talk about my commune, nobody else can debate me on
- 16:01Speaker 18: that because I'm the only one with that lived experience,
- 16:04Speaker 18: whatever it is in the rooms and the circles that
- 16:07Speaker 18: you're in. What's the unique thing that you have, and
- 16:09Speaker 18: then you triple down on that that will help with
- 16:11Speaker 18: that imposter syndrome. The other thing is that you have
- 16:13Speaker 18: to understand like you don't have to be somebody that's
- 16:16Speaker 18: just born with like an overabundance of confidence.
- 16:18Speaker 2: It's something that you can build.
- 16:20Speaker 18: But you do have to build it by putting a
- 16:23Speaker 18: success with a success with a success, right, Like just
- 16:26Speaker 18: like a boum Deg said, check with a check, with
- 16:28Speaker 18: a check, you got to build the successes. And sometimes
- 16:31Speaker 18: to do that you got to come back and not say, Okay,
- 16:35Speaker 18: my first success has to be so big, right, just
- 16:37Speaker 18: accomplish something.
- 16:38Speaker 2: I call it fabricating momental.
- 16:40Speaker 18: I believe that sometimes we get stuck on the first rum,
- 16:44Speaker 18: the very first thing I'm trying to get started. I
- 16:46Speaker 18: don't have any money, I don't know people, don't have
- 16:48Speaker 18: a network. That's okay, right, Don't make the first thing
- 16:50Speaker 18: you're trying to do to climb the mountain, right, that's
- 16:54Speaker 18: a lot.
- 16:55Speaker 2: That's a momentous task.
- 16:56Speaker 18: Make the first thing by the shoes, hike and boost,
- 16:58Speaker 18: then buy a rope, then drive and.
- 17:00Speaker 2: Look at it.
- 17:01Speaker 18: Well, you know you've done three things right, get started.
- 17:04Speaker 18: Do something that helps to build that confidence.
- 17:07Speaker 2: We all need that. We got more with Will Packer
- 17:10Speaker 2: when we come back.
- 17:11Speaker 4: His new book, Who Better Than You, The Art of
- 17:12Speaker 4: Healthy Arrogance and Dreaming Big is out now.
- 17:15Speaker 2: Is the Breakfast Club Good Morning, the Breakfast Club.
- 17:20Speaker 7: Morning.
- 17:21Speaker 4: Everybody is dej envy just hilarious, Charlamagne the God we
- 17:25Speaker 4: are the Breakfast Club Lone the Roaster's head with us
- 17:27Speaker 4: as well. We're still kicking it with Will Packers new book,
- 17:29Speaker 4: Who Better Than You, The Art of Healthy Arrogance and
- 17:32Speaker 4: Dreaming Big, is out now, Charlamagne.
- 17:34Speaker 1: I want to get to the audit the pivot, but
- 17:35Speaker 1: first I want to ask you about the chapter that says,
- 17:37Speaker 1: seeing your laney, Yeah, just just make it wide, lean
- 17:40Speaker 1: into your thing?
- 17:41Speaker 9: Yes?
- 17:42Speaker 1: How does one avoid being typecasted by leaning into their thing?
- 17:46Speaker 3: And when?
- 17:46Speaker 5: Do you know?
- 17:47Speaker 3: The pivot?
- 17:48Speaker 2: Yeah, you know it.
- 17:49Speaker 18: The whole point of that chapter is about when you
- 17:52Speaker 18: have something that you do really, really well, because many
- 17:55Speaker 18: times people are afraid of being locked into something that
- 17:59Speaker 18: people will think, that's all I can do, right, But
- 18:01Speaker 18: if you do that thing, and you do it really
- 18:03Speaker 18: really well, do not stop.
- 18:05Speaker 2: Okay, don't stop.
- 18:07Speaker 18: The most successful people have a thing that they do
- 18:10Speaker 18: and they do it well. Then they use the ability
- 18:13Speaker 18: to be successful in a lane to go out and
- 18:16Speaker 18: do something else. I'm only able to write this book
- 18:18Speaker 18: with a major publisher because I've been very successful in
- 18:21Speaker 18: a particular media.
- 18:22Speaker 2: Right now, I'm able to go and do other things.
- 18:24Speaker 2: So don't worry about that. Oh well, I can do
- 18:26Speaker 2: so much other stuff. What's the thing you do really well?
- 18:29Speaker 2: Do that?
- 18:29Speaker 18: Triple down on that. Be the best person in that
- 18:32Speaker 18: particular field. And by the way, find your passion within that.
- 18:37Speaker 18: Right too many times people are telling me, well, I'm
- 18:39Speaker 18: not passionate about something. I gotta wait to find my
- 18:42Speaker 18: passion and before I go out and work really hard.
- 18:45Speaker 18: And I'm telling you, you're building your brand from day one.
- 18:48Speaker 18: Work hard today. I didn't have a passion to be
- 18:50Speaker 18: a filmmaker. I will admit that, but I did not.
- 18:53Speaker 18: That was not my dream growing up. But I found
- 18:56Speaker 18: that I was really good at knowing how to hire
- 18:59Speaker 18: actors and raise money and self distribute. And then I
- 19:02Speaker 18: found the passion in storytelling later, so I found the
- 19:06Speaker 18: thing I was really really good at, and then I
- 19:08Speaker 18: found my passion within it. I encourage people to do
- 19:11Speaker 18: that and worry about being type passed.
- 19:13Speaker 2: Stay in your lane, but you can make it. Why.
- 19:15Speaker 18: I'm not trying to pigeonhole you, and I'm not trying
- 19:17Speaker 18: to limit what you can do, but stay in your lane.
- 19:20Speaker 2: Too often we are trying to do.
- 19:22Speaker 18: Too much, and now you can't be the person that's
- 19:25Speaker 18: doing everything the best.
- 19:27Speaker 2: That is just not how humans work. What's the thing
- 19:30Speaker 2: you do well? Triple down on that.
- 19:32Speaker 1: So once you've leaned into your thing and you find
- 19:34Speaker 1: that thing, there's never a pivot from that thing.
- 19:36Speaker 2: It can be a pivot where you use that thing.
- 19:39Speaker 18: You use your ability, you use your brand, You use
- 19:42Speaker 18: the fact that you have got credibility in a particular space.
- 19:45Speaker 2: You have done the exact same thing.
- 19:46Speaker 18: You use the fact that you have credibility in one
- 19:49Speaker 18: lane in order to then expand your lane. Right, But
- 19:53Speaker 18: it should still all be about this is the thing
- 19:55Speaker 18: that I do. That's why I say stay in your lane,
- 19:57Speaker 18: but make your lane.
- 19:58Speaker 17: Why is there ever a time where like you're because
- 20:02Speaker 17: I mean, I remember when you told the story about
- 20:04Speaker 17: Kevin and with the last time you guys were here. Yeah,
- 20:06Speaker 17: and now I'm seeing in context of this book of
- 20:08Speaker 17: like who better than you? And I feel like in
- 20:10Speaker 17: that moment he had the arrogance to be like, I
- 20:13Speaker 17: can do both of these. I'm going to be fine
- 20:14Speaker 17: and it's all going to work out. But things like
- 20:16Speaker 17: that can kind of get pretty tricky because what if
- 20:18Speaker 17: it hadn't have worked out? Is there ever a moment
- 20:20Speaker 17: where you have to tell somebody who's coming to you
- 20:21Speaker 17: for this type of who better than you?
- 20:22Speaker 16: Advice?
- 20:23Speaker 17: Like, maybe this is not it for you right now,
- 20:26Speaker 17: maybe there's someone better than you right now, but that
- 20:27Speaker 17: doesn't mean later you might not be able to have
- 20:29Speaker 17: that who better than you?
- 20:30Speaker 2: Eric, you have to be honest with yourself number one.
- 20:33Speaker 18: Right, We live in a world where people think either
- 20:37Speaker 18: they are too great or they are too awful. Rodger
- 20:41Speaker 18: Kipling has a poem called if, and my favorite stanza
- 20:45Speaker 18: in that poem is if you can meet with triumph
- 20:48Speaker 18: and disaster and treat those two impostors just the same.
- 20:52Speaker 18: That is saying that both triumph and disaster are impostors,
- 20:57Speaker 18: neither of them are real.
- 20:58Speaker 5: Right.
- 20:59Speaker 18: Too many times, because we post some on social media,
- 21:01Speaker 18: everybody tell you, oh my god, you're the greatest thing ever,
- 21:04Speaker 18: so good or the opposite.
- 21:05Speaker 2: They just hate No, you're telling you how oftful you are.
- 21:07Speaker 18: Neither of that is true. You gotta stay even keelled.
- 21:10Speaker 18: So the first thing you gotta do is be honest
- 21:12Speaker 18: about you and your skill set. It's the only way
- 21:15Speaker 18: you're gonna get better. Don't worry about external factors. You
- 21:17Speaker 18: got to have a very honest conversation. One of the
- 21:19Speaker 18: things I talk about in the book is how we
- 21:22Speaker 18: have to make sure I'm a daily affirmation type of person.
- 21:25Speaker 18: You're there encouraging yourself right, giving yourself positivity, telling yourself
- 21:30Speaker 18: how you're ready, how you prepared, what you can do,
- 21:32Speaker 18: but also being very very honest with yourself. I don't
- 21:35Speaker 18: care what you tell the world. A lot of yourself,
- 21:37Speaker 18: a lot of your mom, a lot of your cousin,
- 21:38Speaker 18: lot of your boyfriend, girlfriend, husband, wife. Do not lie
- 21:41Speaker 18: to yourself. Be very very clear about what it is
- 21:44Speaker 18: that you do.
- 21:45Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you know, I want to talk you about
- 21:47Speaker 1: the Packer family model too.
- 21:49Speaker 3: If you want to have what others, won't you have
- 21:50Speaker 3: to do with others don't?
- 21:52Speaker 5: Yeah?
- 21:52Speaker 3: Well, yeah, so you got your.
- 21:53Speaker 18: Mom with you again her, I got moms, I got
- 21:56Speaker 18: you know what, It's something that mom instilled in me.
- 21:59Speaker 18: You know, when I was growing up, Mom and dad
- 22:01Speaker 18: they took me like you know, like simbing the lion
- 22:03Speaker 18: king and lifting me up and said, you know, whatever
- 22:05Speaker 18: the son touches is your son. Like I encourage my
- 22:08Speaker 18: folks with kids, do that. Tell your kids because that's
- 22:11Speaker 18: when they're the most impressiable. Tell them they can do anything.
- 22:14Speaker 18: They told me that, and so I was very audacious
- 22:16Speaker 18: growing up with my family. It's me, my wife. We
- 22:19Speaker 18: have four children, So that's the six pack. If you
- 22:21Speaker 18: want to have what others don't, you have to be
- 22:23Speaker 18: willing to do what others won't.
- 22:25Speaker 3: Period.
- 22:25Speaker 2: That is the mantra.
- 22:27Speaker 18: The mantra is that understand whatever it is that you
- 22:30Speaker 18: want to do, if anybody else can do it, then
- 22:33Speaker 18: it's not special.
- 22:34Speaker 2: You're not gonna get it right. You're not gonna get
- 22:36Speaker 2: something that's unique.
- 22:37Speaker 18: You gotta be willing to do what others are not
- 22:40Speaker 18: to get that thing. And I believe that the more
- 22:44Speaker 18: you do hard things, the better.
- 22:46Speaker 2: You become at hard things.
- 22:48Speaker 18: The more hard things you do, the easier hard things become.
- 22:53Speaker 18: So don't run from doing hard things. Don't run from
- 22:56Speaker 18: doing the things that everybody else says it's crazy. That's
- 22:59Speaker 18: the only way you gonna get strength and to build
- 23:01Speaker 18: that muscle. It's by doing those hard things. Why I
- 23:04Speaker 18: say dream big because your dream has got to be
- 23:06Speaker 18: so big, because there's gonna be challenges along the way.
- 23:08Speaker 18: It's gotta be so big that it pushes you past
- 23:10Speaker 18: those challenges inevitably. Because if the dream is just a
- 23:13Speaker 18: mediocre dream, like man, it'd be kind of cool to
- 23:14Speaker 18: do that. Then when you run into a speed bump
- 23:17Speaker 18: and that's really hard, you're gonna say, you know what,
- 23:18Speaker 18: it ain't worth it.
- 23:19Speaker 2: I'm cool, right, But if the dream is so big, right,
- 23:22Speaker 2: I mean.
- 23:23Speaker 18: So big for color for h four khd, like super crazy,
- 23:29Speaker 18: beyond your wireless dreams big, then when you do hit
- 23:32Speaker 18: that hard moment, those challenges, you know it's worth it
- 23:36Speaker 18: to keep going and keep fighting because the dream.
- 23:39Speaker 5: Is big enough.
- 23:40Speaker 3: Is Will Packer allowed to turn his own book into
- 23:43Speaker 3: a movie?
- 23:43Speaker 5: Yeah?
- 23:43Speaker 3: Limited seriously?
- 23:44Speaker 18: Yeah yeah, I mean it's some Will Packers. You know
- 23:47Speaker 18: what I think about doing it?
- 23:48Speaker 5: I could do that.
- 23:48Speaker 16: I saw Heather in the background this day.
- 23:50Speaker 2: You know what head to say in the background. I
- 23:52Speaker 2: don't know.
- 23:52Speaker 17: I just saw something I was given a lean like
- 23:55Speaker 17: maybe no, don't do it right now or something.
- 23:58Speaker 18: You know what, I've made this book not to turn
- 24:00Speaker 18: into a movie or a TV show. You never say never,
- 24:03Speaker 18: because you know one of my biggest movies is Think
- 24:05Speaker 18: Like a Man. Steve Harvey will tell you he never
- 24:07Speaker 18: thought of that as a move never. He never wrote
- 24:09Speaker 18: it for that. I wrote this to give the master
- 24:13Speaker 18: mentorship that I didn't have. I have people coming to
- 24:16Speaker 18: me a lot and saying, tell me about your success story,
- 24:19Speaker 18: tell me about your failures, tell me about what you
- 24:21Speaker 18: had to overcome. And so when I tell these stories,
- 24:25Speaker 18: right and I talk about you know, Beyonce turning me
- 24:28Speaker 18: down five times, or I Yourselba, you know, almost not
- 24:31Speaker 18: walking the carpet at the first Emmy's and how you
- 24:33Speaker 18: get past that? Like, when I tell these stories, I'm
- 24:36Speaker 18: doing that so that other people can benefit from it.
- 24:39Speaker 2: So I could turn into a movie. That's not what
- 24:40Speaker 2: I made it for.
- 24:41Speaker 18: I literally made this book so that I could influence
- 24:45Speaker 18: other folks who are either on their way up, thinking
- 24:48Speaker 18: about making a pivot or living a life that they
- 24:51Speaker 18: know could be a little more fulfilling.
- 24:53Speaker 2: Well, we appreciate you for joining us.
- 24:55Speaker 3: Well pack a new book.
- 24:56Speaker 1: Who better than you to all the healthy arrogance and
- 24:57Speaker 1: dreaming big out right now. Always a pleasure to see
- 25:00Speaker 1: you go out there and buy this book making the.
- 25:02Speaker 3: New York Times bestseller.
- 25:03Speaker 2: Missisiate you found. I appreciate you, Man, thank you, Thank
- 25:05Speaker 2: you all for having me.
- 25:06Speaker 18: Charlotte Mann, and thank you because you're somebody that you know.
- 25:09Speaker 2: And I told you this.
- 25:10Speaker 18: We saw each other at the Democrat National Convention and
- 25:12Speaker 18: I told you I had written my first book, and
- 25:15Speaker 18: I was inspired by your books and by reading your
- 25:18Speaker 18: books and just seeing that process and the grind that
- 25:20Speaker 18: you put in. So you never know who's watching and
- 25:23Speaker 18: who you're inspiring. So thank you, my brother, thank you
- 25:25Speaker 18: for having me.
- 25:26Speaker 2: It's Will Packer. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, you're
- 25:30Speaker 2: checking out the Breakfast Club Morning.
- 25:32Speaker 4: Everybody's DJ Envy, Jesse, Larus, Charlamaine the God. We are
- 25:37Speaker 4: the Breakfast Club Lawn La Rosa. It's here and we
- 25:39Speaker 4: got a special guest in the building. David o' yellowwoe
- 25:42Speaker 4: was here.
- 25:43Speaker 3: Did say it?
- 25:44Speaker 5: Did you did? Okay?
- 25:45Speaker 3: I had to ask you beforehand.
- 25:47Speaker 5: You know, I appreciate that you did.
- 25:48Speaker 3: Yeah, I see it all the time, but I'm like,
- 25:49Speaker 3: I don't want to hack it when I try to.
- 25:51Speaker 5: Say it now, everyone everyone does, but you mailed that.
- 25:53Speaker 3: How are you, sir?
- 25:54Speaker 5: Very good? Very good. It's great to be here.
- 25:56Speaker 3: Absolutely so.
- 25:57Speaker 17: You got a government cheese happening right now Apple TV?
- 26:00Speaker 17: Yeah so and watching this but also some of the
- 26:03Speaker 17: other things that I've seen you play in. Can you
- 26:04Speaker 17: just first talk about your career and like the roles
- 26:08Speaker 17: that you select, all of the roles that I know
- 26:10Speaker 17: you for are very powerful, very like you tell stories
- 26:14Speaker 17: that are like so important to black people coming out
- 26:17Speaker 17: the gate you are. Is that something you were like, Hey,
- 26:19Speaker 17: this has to be it for me, this is what
- 26:21Speaker 17: I want to do. Or did you just fall into
- 26:23Speaker 17: these roles because like, how did it happen?
- 26:26Speaker 5: No, thank you for saying that. It's very intentional. You know.
- 26:29Speaker 5: I was incredibly influenced by film and television growing up,
- 26:34Speaker 5: and I was aware quite early that the images I
- 26:39Speaker 5: was taking in were in some ways informing me of
- 26:43Speaker 5: what blackness means globally speaking. And then I had this
- 26:48Speaker 5: incredible moment where, having been born and grown up in
- 26:51Speaker 5: the UK, we moved back to Nigeria for six years.
- 26:55Speaker 5: We made you six to thirteen, and I was suddenly
- 26:58Speaker 5: in a country, in an environment where I was not
- 27:00Speaker 5: a minority, everything on offer in that society was mine
- 27:05Speaker 5: for the taking. And I realized that these images that
- 27:09Speaker 5: I was internalizing that often had Black people on the
- 27:13Speaker 5: periphery or playing what I deemed to be caricatures or stereotypes,
- 27:18Speaker 5: were insidious, were detrimental to us as a people. And so,
- 27:24Speaker 5: having moved back to the UK becoming an actor, I
- 27:27Speaker 5: felt that if I'm not part of the solution, I'm
- 27:30Speaker 5: part of the problem. And so I've definitely gravitated towards
- 27:33Speaker 5: roles and projects that mean that I am trying to
- 27:37Speaker 5: change what I saw growing up. I'm trying to widen
- 27:40Speaker 5: the aperture and contextualize who and what we are as
- 27:43Speaker 5: black people.
- 27:44Speaker 1: That's interesting, I wonder, how did you know that you
- 27:47Speaker 1: know they were characters and stereotypes if you've never if
- 27:50Speaker 1: you had mental America to see.
- 27:51Speaker 5: For yourself, Because I was living in communities where black
- 27:57Speaker 5: people were central to their own lives, and I knew
- 28:00Speaker 5: that what I was saying, because it wasn't just America,
- 28:02Speaker 5: it was in the UK as well. You know, if
- 28:05Speaker 5: if every time you see a black person, they are
- 28:07Speaker 5: on the periphery of the narrative if so often they
- 28:10Speaker 5: are criminalized or marginalized. That was not my experience walking
- 28:15Speaker 5: through the earth, and so I felt that's intentional, that's political,
- 28:20Speaker 5: that's propaganda in a sense, and it's having a detrimental
- 28:24Speaker 5: effect on me because there is a disconnect between my
- 28:28Speaker 5: lived experience and what I'm internalizing on screen. So that's
- 28:33Speaker 5: how I knew it was something to become batter. You know.
- 28:35Speaker 1: It's so interesting, right, because I have that conversation often
- 28:38Speaker 1: because you know, when you watch film in television in
- 28:42Speaker 1: the nineties, if everything had some type of socially redeeming value, right,
- 28:46Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And I always wonder what
- 28:47Speaker 1: the hell happened to it? It felt like it was intentional. Yeah,
- 28:51Speaker 1: put him to stop showing us that and start giving
- 28:53Speaker 1: us like the reality television.
- 28:55Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I can tell you exactly what happened. So often,
- 28:58Speaker 5: why you got you had the those films that were
- 29:01Speaker 5: bringing context to who we are as black people is
- 29:04Speaker 5: because it was largely being framed and made by a
- 29:07Speaker 5: black people. What has happened a lot is that our stories,
- 29:13Speaker 5: we craft them, we developed them. But at some point
- 29:16Speaker 5: you've got to take it to people who have green
- 29:18Speaker 5: light power who are not from our demographic and so
- 29:22Speaker 5: therefore you're having to push who we are through their
- 29:25Speaker 5: perception of who we are, and it almost always gets eroded,
- 29:28Speaker 5: watered down, or marginalized. And that's what's happening for some
- 29:32Speaker 5: reason in the nineties that there were there were producers,
- 29:36Speaker 5: there were creatives, there were directors who were just doing
- 29:39Speaker 5: it all themselves, and it was getting celebrated and it
- 29:42Speaker 5: was less watered down, and that's why I think we
- 29:44Speaker 5: had that golden era.
- 29:45Speaker 16: Is it ever heavy for you?
- 29:46Speaker 17: Because I remember watching you in the story about doctor
- 29:49Speaker 17: Martin Luther King and yeah, in like, I know there's
- 29:53Speaker 17: a lot because you also have done theater. Yeah, you're
- 29:56Speaker 17: very serious about what you do, so I know that
- 29:58Speaker 17: there's a lot of study and deep study and certain
- 30:00Speaker 17: things of that nature. So you're probably doing that for
- 30:02Speaker 17: every single role. And there's a lot of like just
- 30:04Speaker 17: trauma that you take on differently because you get so
- 30:06Speaker 17: close to your characters. How does that stick with you,
- 30:09Speaker 17: like in that pressure from outside world too, of like
- 30:12Speaker 17: these are characters and people that you know have shaped
- 30:13Speaker 17: our world.
- 30:14Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I try to stay away from the
- 30:17Speaker 5: trauma component. What I mostly gravitate towards are aspirational representations
- 30:24Speaker 5: of us. So in playing Dr King, the gift for
- 30:27Speaker 5: me was to see a leader, to see someone who
- 30:30Speaker 5: was an icon, but who was a human being as well.
- 30:34Speaker 5: And I'm interested in stories where we get to be triumphant,
- 30:38Speaker 5: where we get to be someone you would aspire to be,
- 30:41Speaker 5: no matter what demographic of person you are. More often
- 30:46Speaker 5: than not, when you see black people in a historical context,
- 30:50Speaker 5: we are browbeaten, we're broken down, and often we don't
- 30:54Speaker 5: We're not allowed to ascend. You won't catch me in
- 30:56Speaker 5: that narrative. For me personally, we have got to for
- 30:59Speaker 5: me be on an upward trajectory in whatever we do,
- 31:03Speaker 5: so it's less traumatic, it's more celebratory of who we
- 31:08Speaker 5: are without shying away from the challenges we face.
- 31:11Speaker 3: Yeah, they never want to show you the slave revolting.
- 31:15Speaker 5: Right right, exactly exactly. And for me, you know, that's
- 31:20Speaker 5: why I resist slave narratives because it's very hard to
- 31:24Speaker 5: find the triumphant in that. The closest I came to
- 31:27Speaker 5: that was playing bass Reefs. In that this show Lowman
- 31:31Speaker 5: bass Reefs, he starts enslaved. But the great thing about
- 31:34Speaker 5: being a producer is that you can ensure or be
- 31:38Speaker 5: a voice in where the narrative goes. I would not
- 31:41Speaker 5: have taken that on if he didn't go from enslavement
- 31:44Speaker 5: to empowerment. Staying in enslavement is not something that I
- 31:48Speaker 5: want to project to our people, because there are people
- 31:51Speaker 5: who enjoy that narrative as a means of keeping us down.
- 31:54Speaker 17: You said something interesting, you said it being a producer
- 31:56Speaker 17: you get to kind of like, you know, help to
- 31:57Speaker 17: figure out where the character development goes and stuff like that.
- 32:00Speaker 17: What part of your career did that become an option
- 32:03Speaker 17: for you, because not all actors have the ability to
- 32:05Speaker 17: be on a set and say, hey, I think that
- 32:07Speaker 17: we should change this or in power differently because of
- 32:09Speaker 17: how my people will see this. When did that happen
- 32:11Speaker 17: first in your career?
- 32:13Speaker 5: It happened by accident. It was on Selma. I got
- 32:17Speaker 5: the script just as an actor in two thousand and seven,
- 32:21Speaker 5: felt a real calling to play that role. But I
- 32:24Speaker 5: auditioned for it and the first director said, David o'yelowo
- 32:27Speaker 5: is not Doctor King. That was literally the feedback, And
- 32:31Speaker 5: it took another seven years before the film came to fruition.
- 32:35Speaker 5: But What I could never had anticipated was that I
- 32:38Speaker 5: would go from being an actor who was rejected initially
- 32:42Speaker 5: to three directors later because they just kept on not
- 32:47Speaker 5: wanting to make that movie because black doesn't travel, the
- 32:50Speaker 5: audience is not going to gravitate towards it. Whatever the
- 32:53Speaker 5: excuses are they say that, well they did, Oh yeah,
- 32:57Speaker 5: I mean yeah, you think this is a film about
- 33:00Speaker 5: King Ala Perry.
- 33:01Speaker 16: Because they said that.
- 33:02Speaker 17: They told Tyler Perry black people would in lead the
- 33:04Speaker 17: theater to go to the movies.
- 33:05Speaker 16: They don't travel beyond.
- 33:06Speaker 5: So he met global you meant every global box office
- 33:09Speaker 5: right globally, but here as well. That the narrative was
- 33:12Speaker 5: black people don't want to see black struggle, White people
- 33:14Speaker 5: don't want to feel white guilt and things like that.
- 33:17Speaker 5: But you know, it wasn't until twenty ten. Lee Daniels
- 33:21Speaker 5: actually came along and was the one who actually cast
- 33:23Speaker 5: me in it. Still couldn't get the film made. In
- 33:26Speaker 5: the meantime, I did a small film with Ava Duvene
- 33:28Speaker 5: called Middle of Nowhere, small two hundred thousand dollars movie,
- 33:32Speaker 5: and I felt she is a genius. Lee had moved
- 33:35Speaker 5: on from the project because they wouldn't give him enough
- 33:37Speaker 5: money to make it, and I went in and fought
- 33:39Speaker 5: very hard for Ava to be the one to direct it.
- 33:42Speaker 5: She rewrote the script. It was brilliant rewrite of the script.
- 33:46Speaker 5: Still couldn't get it made. I'd done the Butler with
- 33:50Speaker 5: Oprah at that time. I invited Oprah on to be
- 33:54Speaker 5: a producer on the film. Twelve Years a Slave came
- 33:58Speaker 5: out and had done well, which had broken down this
- 34:01Speaker 5: notion of our stories not traveling. And so the aggregation
- 34:06Speaker 5: of all of those things is what went on to
- 34:08Speaker 5: mean Selma got made well. I didn't realize I was
- 34:10Speaker 5: doing by bringing on Ava, bringing on Oprah, fighting daily
- 34:15Speaker 5: to try and get the thing made, was producing and
- 34:18Speaker 5: so I thought, oh, okay, well I can do that
- 34:20Speaker 5: again for the things that I believe in and I'm
- 34:22Speaker 5: passionate about. And so you know, that was ten eleven
- 34:25Speaker 5: years ago now and I haven't still upset Hi.
- 34:27Speaker 2: We have more with David o' yellowoe when we come back.
- 34:29Speaker 4: It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning morning everybody. It's theej
- 34:33Speaker 4: Envy Jesse, hilarious, Charlamagne de God. We are the Breakfast Club.
- 34:36Speaker 4: Laur La Ross here as well. We're still kicking it
- 34:38Speaker 4: with David o' yellowol, Lauren.
- 34:40Speaker 16: I want to talk about government Cheese.
- 34:42Speaker 17: So the name itself of the series, let's talk about
- 34:44Speaker 17: that first, because it's referring to the government Cheese program,
- 34:47Speaker 17: which is a kind of like an overarching conversation that
- 34:51Speaker 17: you guys have throughout the series without really.
- 34:53Speaker 16: Having it all the way.
- 34:54Speaker 17: Yeah, So talk about the you know, just the choice
- 34:57Speaker 17: of title with that, and you know what, you hope
- 34:59Speaker 17: the hope is that people get just from looking at
- 35:01Speaker 17: the title before they even see it.
- 35:02Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, government cheese for us was symbolic of
- 35:06Speaker 5: what we tend to do as black people. You know,
- 35:10Speaker 5: necessity being the mother of invention. We will take nothing
- 35:13Speaker 5: and make it into something. And government cheese, as people
- 35:17Speaker 5: may know, as government subsidized food. There was powdered eggs,
- 35:20Speaker 5: there was powdered milk as well, and with government cheese
- 35:23Speaker 5: in particular. You talk to people even now they have this,
- 35:26Speaker 5: you know, they go into this place in their heads
- 35:28Speaker 5: when they think about those grilled cheese, sandwichees or the
- 35:31Speaker 5: mac and cheese, and they talk about it incredibly fondly
- 35:34Speaker 5: because it was, you know, a not particularly nutritious food
- 35:38Speaker 5: that people made into a delicacy. And what you have
- 35:41Speaker 5: with the Chambers family is that they are this black
- 35:45Speaker 5: family in the valley in the sixties, making something out
- 35:49Speaker 5: of nothing. This guy starts the show incarcerated, has this
- 35:54Speaker 5: epiphany about making a self sharpening drill. It's going to
- 35:57Speaker 5: be the means by which his family comes out of
- 36:00Speaker 5: the challenging situations they're in. So it's aspirational. You have
- 36:04Speaker 5: the character that similar Mysic plays. He's a receptionist, but
- 36:07Speaker 5: she wants to be an interior designer. You have our
- 36:10Speaker 5: son who's aspiring to be a pole vaulter. You have
- 36:12Speaker 5: this other son of ours who you know is completely
- 36:16Speaker 5: obsessed with Native American culture. Everyone is looking beyond where
- 36:20Speaker 5: they are from an aspirational point of view, and in
- 36:22Speaker 5: many ways, government cheese is sort of symbolic that.
- 36:25Speaker 3: What's the equivalent of government cheese in the UK? I
- 36:28Speaker 3: don't as a British Man, did you understand what that was?
- 36:30Speaker 5: Yes, I mean we don't have exactly the same thing,
- 36:34Speaker 5: but I remember, you know, you got bottles of milk
- 36:37Speaker 5: that everyone got, you know, that would get dropped at
- 36:40Speaker 5: your house every every morning, and that was something that
- 36:44Speaker 5: was across the nation. Super rich people were not getting
- 36:46Speaker 5: that necessarily, but it was you know, lower income family.
- 36:49Speaker 5: So that's the closest that we got in terms of
- 36:53Speaker 5: that situation. But the thing I know from living in
- 36:55Speaker 5: the UK, living in Nigeria and Africa, living here is
- 36:59Speaker 5: that we're wherever you go. The resilience of black people
- 37:02Speaker 5: in terms of you know, making something out of nothing
- 37:06Speaker 5: is just something that feels pretty universal.
- 37:08Speaker 1: You've had other roles that have highlighted black life from
- 37:10Speaker 1: the sixties. What about government Cheese felt different from other projects.
- 37:14Speaker 5: This is the amount of joy on display and just
- 37:18Speaker 5: the relatability. I think. You know, our experience is very specific,
- 37:25Speaker 5: especially in the sixties as it pertains to civil rights
- 37:27Speaker 5: and black struggle. But you know, with this family, they
- 37:31Speaker 5: are dealing not only with economic challenges but marital challenges,
- 37:37Speaker 5: and they are raising kids and you know, just just
- 37:40Speaker 5: trying to make ends meet, and I think all of
- 37:42Speaker 5: those things are what make it fresh and familiar. At
- 37:47Speaker 5: the same time, you know, you've seen black people in
- 37:49Speaker 5: the sixties, but never quite like this, never quite in
- 37:52Speaker 5: this place, and never this family. You know, they're kind
- 37:56Speaker 5: of out there. But you know, I have a kids myself,
- 38:01Speaker 5: and you know, it's weird. It's not until you go
- 38:04Speaker 5: to a restaurant and you see people looking you funny
- 38:06Speaker 5: and you realize how weird and quirking your own family
- 38:09Speaker 5: is because you're just being super loud and people are
- 38:11Speaker 5: king into your conversation. So I think we're probably all
- 38:15Speaker 5: a bit more quirky and with than we can to admit.
- 38:17Speaker 17: Well, this series is definitely a lot more like light
- 38:20Speaker 17: and fun and you know, even though it takes on
- 38:22Speaker 17: like some serious undertones. But I was reading this article
- 38:24Speaker 17: that you did with a mental magazine. Yeah, and you
- 38:26Speaker 17: were talking about going out into Wyoming on a ranch
- 38:29Speaker 17: with your kids.
- 38:30Speaker 5: Oh yeah.
- 38:30Speaker 17: When I saw the article, I was like, this is
- 38:32Speaker 17: like a random interview for him to have right now.
- 38:35Speaker 17: And then I was reading and I was like, I
- 38:36Speaker 17: get it because you put yourself in a light of
- 38:39Speaker 17: like a person who has had to learn again to
- 38:41Speaker 17: just like relax and just be fun and just be
- 38:44Speaker 17: a person. Because you know, you're studying your acting, you're working.
- 38:47Speaker 17: Then there's clauses where you can't go out and do
- 38:49Speaker 17: stuff like that, which makes a lot of sense. Yeah,
- 38:51Speaker 17: but those moments with your kids where you're just they're
- 38:53Speaker 17: seeing you as like a human or it's like Dad
- 38:56Speaker 17: is fun, Dad can do these things. How does that
- 38:58Speaker 17: reignite you when you get back on these sets, you know,
- 39:01Speaker 17: and you take on these characters like the one in
- 39:03Speaker 17: a government cheese.
- 39:04Speaker 5: I'm so glad you brought that up, because you know,
- 39:07Speaker 5: everything I'm saying is hard work. You know, when I
- 39:10Speaker 5: make a show, probably in the past, to an unhealthy degree,
- 39:15Speaker 5: I feel like it's a political act. I feel like
- 39:18Speaker 5: it's not just about me going to work and taking
- 39:20Speaker 5: on a story, bringing my people with me. And you
- 39:25Speaker 5: could argue that there are elements of that that are unhealthy.
- 39:29Speaker 5: And so to smell the roses while you're on the journey,
- 39:34Speaker 5: to continue to intentionally enjoy your family, enjoy your marriage,
- 39:39Speaker 5: enjoy your home has been something that I've tried to
- 39:42Speaker 5: afford myself more and more as I've got deeper into
- 39:45Speaker 5: my career, especially as there are now more wins on
- 39:48Speaker 5: the board. You know, there are really significant things I've
- 39:52Speaker 5: done that are absolutely in line with what I set
- 39:54Speaker 5: out to do, and the temptation is to just be, Okay,
- 39:58Speaker 5: what's next, what's next, what's next? And you know, I
- 40:01Speaker 5: have four kids, three boys and a girl. I have
- 40:04Speaker 5: a wife, I deeply love, and you know that is
- 40:07Speaker 5: just as important. And a life well lived is not
- 40:12Speaker 5: really about what you did. It's how you made people
- 40:15Speaker 5: feel and the things that well, there you go, and
- 40:18Speaker 5: you're right, And I want the people closest to me
- 40:21Speaker 5: to feel like I was present, to feel like I
- 40:25Speaker 5: didn't just say I loved them, but my actions demonstrated
- 40:29Speaker 5: that as well. And I think that's time. That's just
- 40:33Speaker 5: constantly demonstrating to the people you love that you value
- 40:36Speaker 5: being in their presence. And so that is that. That's
- 40:39Speaker 5: I'm working on it. I'm not going to tell you that,
- 40:41Speaker 5: you know, I'm all the way there, but that's definitely
- 40:44Speaker 5: an intention I'm trying to bring more into my life.
- 40:46Speaker 1: Is that what you meant when you said in the
- 40:47Speaker 1: article that you came back a different dad?
- 40:49Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 40:50Speaker 5: I came back a different Wow. You guys really do
- 40:52Speaker 5: your research. You really read that audience.
- 40:59Speaker 17: Whoever was that pitch that that was so smart because
- 41:01Speaker 17: in looking at you up everything Okay, okay.
- 41:03Speaker 3: I didn't even know she pitched it.
- 41:05Speaker 16: Yeah, well you don't just end up in mental magazine.
- 41:08Speaker 3: Oh I thought.
- 41:11Speaker 17: I would have ran it up too, But you know,
- 41:13Speaker 17: when I saw that, I was like it was so genius,
- 41:15Speaker 17: because I think your reputation as an actor is so
- 41:18Speaker 17: like it. It's very like stern and you know, silent
- 41:22Speaker 17: and serious. And then I said this article about you
- 41:25Speaker 17: doing all this stuff with my oomen with your kids,
- 41:27Speaker 17: I'm like, wait, hold on, what you'd be having fun?
- 41:30Speaker 3: So it made me That's what I guess.
- 41:32Speaker 1: Yeah, when you said you came back a different dad,
- 41:34Speaker 1: I guess you just realized, like, I can't just be
- 41:37Speaker 1: so much into my work.
- 41:38Speaker 3: I still got to be Pops.
- 41:40Speaker 5: But but also, you know, I was a really rambunctious kid.
- 41:45Speaker 5: I would throw myself all over the place. I was
- 41:48Speaker 5: one of three boys. And then I had my own
- 41:50Speaker 5: kids and I got super like wrapping them in cotton wool,
- 41:55Speaker 5: like careful, careful, don't do that, you know. And then
- 41:58Speaker 5: we went on this trip well horse riding and the
- 42:01Speaker 5: ATVing and where you're shooting arrows and bike riding, and
- 42:04Speaker 5: I just really just let myself go, probably a bit
- 42:08Speaker 5: too much because I went flying over the handlebars of
- 42:10Speaker 5: the ATV at one point. But you know, I do
- 42:15Speaker 5: that when I'm playing a role because it's like throw
- 42:19Speaker 5: yourself into the role, do whatever the role requires. But
- 42:22Speaker 5: for my kids to see me having fun in that
- 42:24Speaker 5: way was an eye opener for them. And I came
- 42:27Speaker 5: back differently because I was like, you know what, I
- 42:29Speaker 5: am almost playing a role for my kids in order
- 42:33Speaker 5: for them to be safe, but they also need to
- 42:36Speaker 5: see dad letting loose and having fun, because then they'll
- 42:40Speaker 5: hopefully take the right kind of risks, not just you know,
- 42:43Speaker 5: careless risks. And it was a shift in the dynamic,
- 42:47Speaker 5: and it was something I actually didn't want to go on,
- 42:49Speaker 5: particularly my wife won it in a raffle, this trip
- 42:52Speaker 5: to this dude ranch and then sent us all out,
- 42:54Speaker 5: and you know, I'm so grateful that we did it,
- 42:56Speaker 5: and we've done so many more things like that since
- 42:59Speaker 5: then because it was hugely beneficial for our family.
- 43:02Speaker 2: We have more with David o' yellowoe when we come back.
- 43:04Speaker 2: It's the breakfast Club.
- 43:05Speaker 4: Come morning morning. Everybody is thej Envy, Jess Hilarrys, Charlamagne
- 43:09Speaker 4: the guy. We are the breakfast Club. Laurla Roles is
- 43:11Speaker 4: here as well. We're still kicking it with David o'
- 43:13Speaker 4: yellow old Charlomagne.
- 43:14Speaker 1: Did you have any reservations about playing MLK because you
- 43:18Speaker 1: are a British actor and you know, there's always that thing,
- 43:20Speaker 1: oh why are all the British actors playing the roles
- 43:22Speaker 1: of American icons?
- 43:24Speaker 5: No, because of the way it came in. You know,
- 43:27Speaker 5: when I read the script in two thousand and seven,
- 43:29Speaker 5: I had never been thinking of myself as doctor King,
- 43:33Speaker 5: you know, but I'm a Christian. I was in a
- 43:35Speaker 5: time of praying and fasting and I felt, God, tell
- 43:37Speaker 5: me you are going to play this role. And then
- 43:41Speaker 5: the way it came about eventually, which is that, you know,
- 43:45Speaker 5: I can safely say pretty much no one worked as
- 43:48Speaker 5: hard to get that film made as I did, and
- 43:51Speaker 5: I would probably say no one else was quite as
- 43:53Speaker 5: influential in getting that film made, between bringing on Ava,
- 43:57Speaker 5: between bringing on Oprah, between all the the work done
- 44:00Speaker 5: behind the scenes to try and get the film made.
- 44:03Speaker 5: So for me, I just found it unacceptable that the
- 44:06Speaker 5: only American who had a holiday named after him in
- 44:09Speaker 5: the twentieth century, who happens to be a black man,
- 44:12Speaker 5: had not had a film made about him. Yet I
- 44:15Speaker 5: wasn't feeling like I have to be the one to
- 44:18Speaker 5: make it. But this was already fifty years after his assassination.
- 44:21Speaker 5: Why do we not have the movie? And I'm a
- 44:24Speaker 5: big believer in. If not me, then who, And so
- 44:29Speaker 5: I was never really thinking I'm British, it should be
- 44:31Speaker 5: someone else. And the reality is that when Lee Daniels
- 44:35Speaker 5: was casting for it, he met everyone I met. I
- 44:38Speaker 5: saw the list of some of the people he met.
- 44:40Speaker 5: I was like, Oh my lord, I cannot believe I'm
- 44:43Speaker 5: going up against my heroes. Who even dare think I'm
- 44:47Speaker 5: going to be the one to play this. But I
- 44:49Speaker 5: eventually got the role, and so for me it's a
- 44:53Speaker 5: question of Okay, now I've been given the opportunity, It's
- 44:56Speaker 5: less about whether or not I should play it. It's
- 44:58Speaker 5: more about how well do it. That is going to be,
- 45:01Speaker 5: at the end of the day, the thing that I
- 45:03Speaker 5: want people to judge. And so I never really thought
- 45:06Speaker 5: about it in that way, because at the end of
- 45:08Speaker 5: the day, I have no interest in playing myself on Spain.
- 45:11Speaker 5: I'm always going to be gravitating towards the most extreme
- 45:14Speaker 5: challenge in terms of playing someone who's not necessarily me.
- 45:17Speaker 17: Do you ever could you have your production companies Eoroba
- 45:20Speaker 17: Saxony ORBA Saxon. So I know that you and your
- 45:23Speaker 17: wife co run that production company, and I'm sure a
- 45:25Speaker 17: lot of the stories that you guys tell are very
- 45:27Speaker 17: close to the heart as far as like black stories,
- 45:29Speaker 17: just by your passion here, do you get backlash at
- 45:32Speaker 17: all because you're not married to a black woman doing that?
- 45:34Speaker 16: And how do you deal with that?
- 45:35Speaker 5: Ifsol not to my face, there are plenty of people
- 45:41Speaker 5: who feel some kind of way about that. But we
- 45:43Speaker 5: called it Yuba Saxon because you know, I'm from the
- 45:45Speaker 5: Yuroba tribe in Nigeria. She's Anglo Saxon, And so you know,
- 45:50Speaker 5: our company is a demonstration of the fact that we
- 45:54Speaker 5: are more alike than we are different as human beings
- 45:57Speaker 5: generally speaking. You know, in making government che yes, it's
- 46:01Speaker 5: a black family. But my hope and my bet is
- 46:05Speaker 5: that everyone is gonna see their family in that family
- 46:09Speaker 5: because of the relatable themes and components that we've woven
- 46:13Speaker 5: into it. And so you know, I'm incredibly proud of
- 46:17Speaker 5: my family. I fell in love with my wife when Gusha.
- 46:20Speaker 5: We met when we were teenagers. We got married when
- 46:22Speaker 5: she was twenty i was twenty two, and everything we
- 46:25Speaker 5: had we built together. So you know, for me, sometimes
- 46:28Speaker 5: the accusation, you know, in marrying a white woman is
- 46:32Speaker 5: you know, they'd say things like there's self loathing in there,
- 46:36Speaker 5: or what's the other one, or that she's a trophy
- 46:39Speaker 5: or something like that. We were so poor when we
- 46:42Speaker 5: started out, they couldn't be less trophy or if it tried.
- 46:48Speaker 5: But you know, I am an incredibly proud black man,
- 46:52Speaker 5: African Christian husband, father. There are so many things that
- 46:57Speaker 5: I am on top of my democrat thinking, who I'm
- 47:00Speaker 5: married to, and those are all reflected in the in
- 47:03Speaker 5: the work that iron we do.
- 47:04Speaker 1: You and your wife should be thinking about producing a
- 47:06Speaker 1: biopic on a great man named doctor Umar Johnson. He's
- 47:09Speaker 1: an activist here an America scholar. Wow yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 47:13Speaker 1: to think about that, just look.
- 47:14Speaker 3: At it, look look into it, Listen to listen.
- 47:20Speaker 5: I'm going to keep he's about in trouble. Was that
- 47:26Speaker 5: about to become a mean? Just then about a mean?
- 47:30Speaker 16: There's a whole change.
- 47:32Speaker 1: Trust me, they'll love you for that withever role that
- 47:36Speaker 1: you will pitch that you morally said to yourself, I
- 47:38Speaker 1: can't do this.
- 47:39Speaker 5: Well, what tends to happen is the minute you play
- 47:41Speaker 5: a civil rights leader, you get every civil rights leader
- 47:44Speaker 5: who's ever lived. Uh, which so I definitely I definitely
- 47:48Speaker 5: said though to those the minute you play a groundbreaking character.
- 47:52Speaker 5: There's a whole genre called the first black man who.
- 47:56Speaker 5: You know, I get a lot of first black man who,
- 47:58Speaker 5: which I'm not.
- 48:01Speaker 16: What's the craziest thing you was, like you, I didn't
- 48:02Speaker 16: even know a black man, didn't it.
- 48:04Speaker 5: I want to say that there have been like windscreen wipers,
- 48:08Speaker 5: the guy who invented the paper clip, the guy who
- 48:10Speaker 5: like like it's it's it's ridiculous. It gets as ridiculous
- 48:13Speaker 5: as that, and people will come to you like full
- 48:15Speaker 5: of passion. The other one you want to really avoid
- 48:18Speaker 5: is when someone goes, man, I got this script.
- 48:22Speaker 11: It's by my dad, and he he the first person
- 48:25Speaker 11: who had a car wash in Alabama and all that
- 48:28Speaker 11: kind of stuff, and I just like, I don't know
- 48:31Speaker 11: how to tell you that.
- 48:34Speaker 3: That is not a movie.
- 48:37Speaker 5: I'm just I'm just so sorry, but that's not going
- 48:39Speaker 5: to be my next But I got your next project,
- 48:42Speaker 5: go in and Out.
- 48:43Speaker 16: It is crazy.
- 48:45Speaker 5: Because it happens a lot of a lot to me.
- 48:48Speaker 5: So so yeah, those are the ones to avoid as well.
- 48:51Speaker 3: Absolutely.
- 48:52Speaker 17: Oh you mentioned so casually multiple times, Oprah, just.
- 48:57Speaker 16: Just very casually.
- 48:59Speaker 17: I read it the story about when you invited her
- 49:01Speaker 17: to Odello opening night, and she had to sit on
- 49:03Speaker 17: the hard benches and she never let you leave that down.
- 49:06Speaker 5: She just never stopped talking about child those benches. But
- 49:11Speaker 5: she came to Coriolanus, which I just did in London,
- 49:14Speaker 5: and they had cushionsy, yes, so you know we are
- 49:17Speaker 5: beyond the bad benches now, but yeah, and they were
- 49:22Speaker 5: very tough benches towards three hours of Shakespeare. So she
- 49:27Speaker 5: fair point. But I'm glad that we've broken the deadlock.
- 49:29Speaker 17: She show up a lot for you, though it sounds
- 49:31Speaker 17: like just in what I'm hearing you say, like what's
- 49:33Speaker 17: that relationship, and like, because you know, opraint coming out
- 49:35Speaker 17: the house for everybody, she is not.
- 49:38Speaker 5: She's not. Yeah, you know, we met doing The Butler together,
- 49:42Speaker 5: and I remember being stood at a party at Lee
- 49:45Speaker 5: Daniel's house that he was renting in New Orleans when
- 49:48Speaker 5: we were shooting that film, and it was at a
- 49:50Speaker 5: time when I just felt I felt very isolated. I
- 49:53Speaker 5: felt very alone. I'd moved here with my family, if
- 49:57Speaker 5: I'm totally honest, I felt like there were other actors
- 50:00Speaker 5: who saw me as a threat in a way that
- 50:04Speaker 5: confused me, because I was like, I'm just you know,
- 50:06Speaker 5: i'd come out of theater in the UK. It's an
- 50:09Speaker 5: environment where it's all about, you know, about the work
- 50:12Speaker 5: and working together and people who were like, you know
- 50:16Speaker 5: that coming here to take our jobs thing was a
- 50:19Speaker 5: real thing I was feeling. And I just remember still
- 50:22Speaker 5: being stood in a corner at this party and Oprah
- 50:25Speaker 5: came up to me and said, you're okay. I said,
- 50:26Speaker 5: you know what, you know, I'm really glad to have
- 50:28Speaker 5: gotten this movie. But it's just I don't know if
- 50:31Speaker 5: you've ever felt this, just like your own community is
- 50:35Speaker 5: is resisting you, which is what I'm feeling.
- 50:41Speaker 1: She's the first, whatever you said earlier, the first ever.
- 50:44Speaker 5: I know, and so exactly your reaction there was her reaction.
- 50:49Speaker 5: She was like baby. And she talked about how Sidney
- 50:54Speaker 5: Poitier was the one who took her under his wing
- 50:58Speaker 5: and said, no, you're not crazy. This is a real thing.
- 51:01Speaker 5: It's something that is unfortunately part of ascending in our community.
- 51:06Speaker 5: And he mentored her and she literally said to me,
- 51:10Speaker 5: I am going to do for you what he did
- 51:12Speaker 5: for me. And she has never abated on that. You know,
- 51:16Speaker 5: Summer doesn't happen without her, My directorial debut doesn't acting
- 51:20Speaker 5: happen without her. So much of the advice, so much
- 51:24Speaker 5: of the financial literacy I have came from her because
- 51:27Speaker 5: I didn't come from means. My parents were not particularly
- 51:30Speaker 5: good business people, even though they had a business. And
- 51:34Speaker 5: so yeah, she has really really made good on that
- 51:37Speaker 5: promise and it's been absolutely life changing.
- 51:39Speaker 16: People definitely hate you now, you know, no, just pop outside.
- 51:46Speaker 5: I know, I know, I know. I made a rod
- 51:48Speaker 5: from my back. Pause.
- 51:49Speaker 3: David, thank you for joining us, brother, Thank you.
- 51:52Speaker 1: Government Cheese is on Apple TV right now and it
- 51:55Speaker 1: was a pleasure talking to you, man.
- 51:57Speaker 3: And I'll be a strange it's David a Yellow World.
- 51:59Speaker 2: Yes, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
- 52:00Speaker 12: He gave me dounky other day and I deserve that.
- 52:02Speaker 3: You need to know.
- 52:03Speaker 2: You need to tell them. I am you have the boy.
- 52:06Speaker 16: Tell them.
- 52:08Speaker 3: It's time for Donkey Day.
- 52:10Speaker 2: It's a read. But you're so good at Charlamage.
- 52:14Speaker 10: He wants charlamage to.
- 52:17Speaker 15: My mom.
- 52:17Speaker 1: Now, Salomame who he's a Dusky of the Day two
- 52:20Speaker 1: now well, sexy rad Donkey of to Day go goes
- 52:22Speaker 1: to Ashley Cross. Ashley is a thirty seven year old
- 52:26Speaker 1: African American woman from Memphis, Tennessee. Okay, salute everyone who
- 52:29Speaker 1: listens to us on K ninety seven in Memphis.
- 52:32Speaker 3: Now, I'm sure that you all are aware by now.
- 52:34Speaker 1: There's a lot of companies that rolled back their diversity
- 52:37Speaker 1: equity and including initiatives. One of those companies is Walmart. Now,
- 52:41Speaker 1: if you read my first book, Black Privilege, and you
- 52:43Speaker 1: know that joy Walmart brought me as a child, because
- 52:45Speaker 1: when you grow up in the country, like I did,
- 52:47Speaker 1: salute the monks corner South Carolina, drop on the clues,
- 52:49Speaker 1: bumps form most corner South Carolina. When you grow up
- 52:51Speaker 1: in the country or rural area, the twenty five hour
- 52:54Speaker 1: Walmart is everything. Okay, that's what we would go late
- 52:56Speaker 1: at night because there was nothing else to do. Yes,
- 52:58Speaker 1: the good old days, walking the holy grounds of Walmart.
- 53:01Speaker 1: This was way back in the day when the only
- 53:02Speaker 1: thing they were rolling back is prices. But a lot
- 53:04Speaker 1: of people have called for a boycott at these companies,
- 53:07Speaker 1: in particular Target, but Ashley Cross has decided that she
- 53:10Speaker 1: is staging a one woman boycott of Walmart. Yes, in fact,
- 53:15Speaker 1: Ashley is not going to be shopping at Walmart in period.
- 53:21Speaker 1: No Walmart in the country, none of them ever Again, Okay,
- 53:25Speaker 1: do you have that kind of commitment to your boycott?
- 53:27Speaker 1: Can you vow to never shopping an establishment ever again?
- 53:31Speaker 1: Are a scott paper tower being ten sixty eight for
- 53:33Speaker 1: twelve rolls too great a deal to pass up?
- 53:35Speaker 3: Well?
- 53:35Speaker 1: If it is, then you can always do what Ashley
- 53:37Speaker 1: did because it's guaranteed Ashley will never step foot in
- 53:40Speaker 1: any Walmart ever again. And I lie, it's not because
- 53:44Speaker 1: she's boycotting Walmart. It's actually because Walmart is boycotting her.
- 53:47Speaker 1: What do you mean, uncle, Charla, Walmart is boycotting her? Well,
- 53:50Speaker 1: let's go to news Channel three for the report.
- 53:52Speaker 13: Police Ashley Cross, charged with criminal trespass and theft of
- 53:56Speaker 13: merchandise is, according to the police report, a well known
- 54:00Speaker 13: shoplifter at this Walmart on Elvis Presley Boulevard in Whitehaven,
- 54:04Speaker 13: so well known to Walmart that Cross is on an
- 54:07Speaker 13: Authorization of Agency list, meaning she's banned from any Walmart
- 54:12Speaker 13: location in the United States. The Elvis Presley Boulevard stores
- 54:16Speaker 13: where Cross and another suspect were arrested February tenth, Cross
- 54:21Speaker 13: was seen unisying and devised to scan her items for
- 54:24Speaker 13: one dollar at a self checkout machine.
- 54:27Speaker 19: Ashley Cross remains in jail on a seventy five hundred
- 54:30Speaker 19: dollars bond. She is due back in court February nineteenth.
- 54:34Speaker 19: The suspect with cross received a misdemeanor citation for theft
- 54:37Speaker 19: of property.
- 54:38Speaker 3: Oh, she already with the court. I wonder what happened. Listen.
- 54:41Speaker 1: I used to shoplift up until twenty sixteen. Okay, that's
- 54:44Speaker 1: when I stopped shoplifting. But I didn't, you know, feel
- 54:47Speaker 1: like I was stealing.
- 54:48Speaker 2: Because nine years ago, you had a little money.
- 54:51Speaker 16: Nine years ago, are you still stealing?
- 54:53Speaker 1: I don't know, But I didn't feel like you was
- 54:56Speaker 1: stealing because I didn't try to hide anything. I would
- 54:57Speaker 1: walk in and, you know, take what I want and
- 54:59Speaker 1: just walk out. I only get caught when you look suspicious,
- 55:01Speaker 1: you know. Plus I never really stole anything but magazines,
- 55:04Speaker 1: you know, when I was young, like Black and Miles,
- 55:06Speaker 1: twelve packs of butt light, random stuff like that.
- 55:09Speaker 3: But Ashley is clearly a kleptomaniac.
- 55:11Speaker 1: And she's good because she was using a bar code
- 55:14Speaker 1: from an old watch battery to scan all her items
- 55:17Speaker 1: for just one dollar to self checkout. I stand a
- 55:21Speaker 1: creative thief. Okay, y'all still stealing? Like flintstones. Actually out
- 55:25Speaker 1: here like a jetson with it. Maybe this is the
- 55:27Speaker 1: normal way to shoplift. Now, I don't steal anymore, so
- 55:29Speaker 1: I wouldn't know. But Ashley stole eleven packs of Ramen noodles,
- 55:33Speaker 1: women's boots, a pair of jeans, and a T shirt,
- 55:36Speaker 1: all totaling one hundred and thirty seven dollars and thirty
- 55:38Speaker 1: four cents. Now, this woman was clearly stealing essentials. Okay,
- 55:43Speaker 1: these are reasonable things to steal. Ramen noodles, boots, clothes.
- 55:47Speaker 1: I understand. In America, I'm gonna tell you something you
- 55:49Speaker 1: don't want to hear. There's gonna be a lot more
- 55:51Speaker 1: of this. Why because during America's inflation crisis, Walmart was
- 55:56Speaker 1: the spot.
- 55:57Speaker 3: Okay, you can.
- 55:57Speaker 1: Get good deals all types of essentials. And yesterday Walmart
- 56:01Speaker 1: said things are about to get slow because consumers are
- 56:04Speaker 1: growing increasingly frustrated with inflation, and they're concerned about President
- 56:08Speaker 1: Trump's tasks. Basically, folks being broke. And if people keep
- 56:11Speaker 1: losing their jobs, they will be broken. And if you
- 56:13Speaker 1: are the reason okay people are losing their jobs, like
- 56:15Speaker 1: Elon Musk and Donald Trump are. In regards the federal workers,
- 56:18Speaker 1: and you're putting tariffs on items. Not only do I
- 56:21Speaker 1: not have a job, things are going to be even
- 56:23Speaker 1: more expensive. So what am I going to resort to doing?
- 56:26Speaker 1: I tell you what people will resort to doing. Trying
- 56:29Speaker 1: to survive, and trying to survive can look like a
- 56:32Speaker 1: number of things, and sometimes one of those things is shoplifted.
- 56:36Speaker 1: I'm not making excuses for Ashley. I'm just telling America
- 56:39Speaker 1: what the inevitable is when you don't take care of
- 56:42Speaker 1: the least of us. Nevertheless, Ashley crosses on Walmart's authorization
- 56:47Speaker 1: of agency lists, which prohibits her from entering any Walmart
- 56:51Speaker 1: store across the country. I didn't know such a list existed,
- 56:54Speaker 1: but Ashley is on it, and she is currently well,
- 56:57Speaker 1: not even know if currently, but she was being held
- 56:59Speaker 1: on the seventy five hundred dollar bond, probably still in it.
- 57:02Speaker 1: She's probably still look in it because if he had
- 57:04Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty four dollars to get these items
- 57:07Speaker 1: for Walmart, you damn sure ain't got the seventy five
- 57:10Speaker 1: hundred dollars bond all the ten percent of seven hundred
- 57:12Speaker 1: and fifty dollars to get out. But some donkey of
- 57:15Speaker 1: the days just sell themselves. Please give Ashley Cross the
- 57:18Speaker 1: Sweet Sounds and the Hamiltons.
- 57:20Speaker 15: You oh the day, ye oh the day.
- 57:35Speaker 1: Ye I know, it's just you feel bad for now.
- 57:42Speaker 1: You don't feel bad for her. She's a repeat offender.
- 57:44Speaker 17: She could have got a job, or maybe the first
- 57:48Speaker 17: offense put something on her record and she couldn't.
- 57:50Speaker 16: Get the job.
- 57:51Speaker 1: That is true too, But she stole from there a lot.
- 57:55Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you switch it up?
- 57:56Speaker 17: All right, it's gonna sound bad, but no, you ever,
- 58:04Speaker 17: you ever be in so check out and be feeling
- 58:06Speaker 17: like this.
- 58:07Speaker 16: I shouldn't have to pay for this stuff, Like some
- 58:08Speaker 16: of this stuff is old to me.
- 58:09Speaker 2: Like maybe she felt like that.
- 58:11Speaker 1: No, I don't feel like that. And that's what happens
- 58:14Speaker 1: when you still wiggle. When you still wiggle, you know
- 58:17Speaker 1: what I'm saying, You.
- 58:20Speaker 2: Get good?
- 58:20Speaker 3: What what?
- 58:24Speaker 12: Yeah?
- 58:25Speaker 17: You so lucky you were still in when your face
- 58:26Speaker 17: was two different colors because they wouldn't have recognized you
- 58:29Speaker 17: from me to side.
- 58:29Speaker 1: That is true. That is very true. If you if
- 58:32Speaker 1: I'm on camera in twenty sixteen, that's not me. Okay,
- 58:36Speaker 1: that's not me. It's not the same person the breakfast club.
- 58:42Speaker 2: That's about me. For relationship problems. That's about me.
- 58:46Speaker 12: If you need to beat your coworker's ass about me,
- 58:49Speaker 12: your coworker needs to beat your ass, call it up.
- 58:52Speaker 12: They got the jests, and I'm here to fix your mess.
- 58:54Speaker 2: Fix your mess.
- 58:55Speaker 12: It's getting very much messy.
- 58:56Speaker 3: Let me fix that morning.
- 58:58Speaker 4: Everybody your stiege envy Jess, hilarious, Charlamagne the guy.
- 59:02Speaker 2: We are to breakfast club. It's time for just fixed
- 59:04Speaker 2: my mess. Hello. Who's this?
- 59:06Speaker 14: Anonymous?
- 59:07Speaker 2: Okay, anonymous, what's your question for? Jess?
- 59:10Speaker 14: Long story short? I cheated on my fiance and I've
- 59:14Speaker 14: found a GPS tracker in my car recently, and I
- 59:17Speaker 14: don't know what to do.
- 59:18Speaker 2: Stop cheating.
- 59:19Speaker 12: That's what you got to stop doing, because that's why
- 59:22Speaker 12: you How long you've been cheating? He's obviously been on
- 59:24Speaker 12: to you for a while.
- 59:25Speaker 3: How long?
- 59:26Speaker 14: Yeah, he found out. I told him.
- 59:28Speaker 8: I came cleanton.
- 59:29Speaker 14: But we're trying to work on things.
- 59:31Speaker 12: Trying to work on things. So you recently found the
- 59:33Speaker 12: tracker after admitting that you were a cheater?
- 59:35Speaker 5: Yeah?
- 59:36Speaker 7: Correct?
- 59:37Speaker 12: Okay, So that tells me that he does not believe you.
- 59:41Speaker 12: You know, he still does not trust that you are
- 59:44Speaker 12: done cheating?
- 59:45Speaker 2: Are you done?
- 59:45Speaker 12: With cheating, no right, and you are question why you
- 59:50Speaker 12: have a goddamn GPS tracker in your car and you're
- 59:53Speaker 12: not done cheating?
- 59:54Speaker 2: So why did you don't.
- 59:55Speaker 10: Know what to do with the relationship?
- 59:56Speaker 2: Oh you wanted to?
- 59:57Speaker 12: Oh okay, baby, you gotta get up by if you
- 1:00:01Speaker 12: want to live your life. And you you know, you
- 1:00:03Speaker 12: you still feel like you got some some other things
- 1:00:06Speaker 12: that you're you know, you don't want to cheat on
- 1:00:09Speaker 12: the person, do you?
- 1:00:10Speaker 2: You know what I mean? I don't know. Just leave him.
- 1:00:15Speaker 12: Because you're obviously you're not happy. You're cheating for a reason,
- 1:00:17Speaker 12: and he's not happy either.
- 1:00:20Speaker 8: Though I do.
- 1:00:21Speaker 12: And that's how it works. You always love the person
- 1:00:24Speaker 12: that you cheat on, you know what I mean? You
- 1:00:25Speaker 12: love them, but it's something that he's lacking that you
- 1:00:29Speaker 12: can't get there right, something that he's doing that he's
- 1:00:33Speaker 12: not doing that you really really wish that he would do.
- 1:00:36Speaker 12: And although you don't want to leave him, you still
- 1:00:39Speaker 12: find you know, you're still looking for something else and
- 1:00:42Speaker 12: you're finding it out in the streets. And that's still
- 1:00:44Speaker 12: are you married or this is your boyfriend.
- 1:00:46Speaker 14: We're engaged and we bought a house the other eight
- 1:00:48Speaker 14: years ago.
- 1:00:49Speaker 12: So you ain't making it down at our girl. I
- 1:00:52Speaker 12: know you love him, but damn you ain't even married
- 1:00:54Speaker 12: and you're doing you cheating. I think you should just
- 1:00:57Speaker 12: I think you should just revoke that whole engagement. Go
- 1:01:02Speaker 12: and live your life.
- 1:01:06Speaker 3: You forty six?
- 1:01:07Speaker 5: Yeah?
- 1:01:08Speaker 12: Wrong, Okay, okay, she need to be Neo's fifth girlfriendes
- 1:01:12Speaker 12: It is sounded like she needs she you you into
- 1:01:17Speaker 12: the polye situation. I think that's what you need. You
- 1:01:20Speaker 12: need somebody who's going to be comfortable with you doing
- 1:01:22Speaker 12: these things. I know he already bought the ring, I understand,
- 1:01:25Speaker 12: but would this be better that he found out after
- 1:01:30Speaker 12: you married him or right now? I think it makes
- 1:01:32Speaker 12: more sense that he found out now. And I think
- 1:01:35Speaker 12: that you just need to look in the marriage. Just
- 1:01:37Speaker 12: be honest with yourself. Marriage is not for you, especially
- 1:01:41Speaker 12: not a committed marriage. It's not for you right now.
- 1:01:43Speaker 12: I'm not saying forever, but that ain't something that that's
- 1:01:47Speaker 12: for you right now, because you know you got to
- 1:01:49Speaker 12: give him the choice. You know what I mean? Right now,
- 1:01:51Speaker 12: you're not really giving him a choice. You know you
- 1:01:54Speaker 12: want to lead them on and he marry you and
- 1:01:57Speaker 12: you know you're still gonna cheat. I love your honesty.
- 1:01:59Speaker 12: You're like, no, I ain't shooting yet, but you can't
- 1:02:01Speaker 12: walk down.
- 1:02:03Speaker 10: You know, I love you, reason like I'm not trying to.
- 1:02:06Speaker 14: I mean, excuse me. Yeah, I want real advice. So
- 1:02:12Speaker 14: just like I have to tell my therapist everything, Yeah,
- 1:02:15Speaker 14: you can't help me if I lie or if I withhold.
- 1:02:18Speaker 12: Yeah, and that's that's that shut. Apart from everybody else.
- 1:02:21Speaker 12: People be calling up here, lying to me, leaving out
- 1:02:23Speaker 12: parts of the story. I applaud your honesty, but you
- 1:02:26Speaker 12: you cannot get married, and you have to tell him
- 1:02:29Speaker 12: that you're not ready for marriage.
- 1:02:31Speaker 14: But I'm the one that wants to get married and
- 1:02:32Speaker 14: he doesn't. I mean he he's the one that's holding back.
- 1:02:37Speaker 14: I mean, obviously he gave me a ring, which indicates
- 1:02:40Speaker 14: he would want to marry me, but he could also
- 1:02:42Speaker 14: just be leading me on leaden together ten years.
- 1:02:46Speaker 12: Yep, you can't get married. The advice is still the same.
- 1:02:50Speaker 12: I know you want to get married, but you're not ready.
- 1:02:52Speaker 12: I'm telling you this ain't about him no more, it's
- 1:02:54Speaker 12: about you. You're not ready to get married. You're not
- 1:02:57Speaker 12: because you're not finished playing the field, you know what
- 1:02:59Speaker 12: I mean. And that's totally fine. But you gotta do
- 1:03:01Speaker 12: that single. You know he already got trust issues. You
- 1:03:05Speaker 12: found a GPS tracker. That is scary. It's scary as hell.
- 1:03:08Speaker 12: But what's also but what's also scary as being engaged
- 1:03:12Speaker 12: to somebody that keeps cheating. It's it's crazy, and it's
- 1:03:17Speaker 12: scary knowing that I have to track my woman because
- 1:03:21Speaker 12: I'm afraid that she ain't gonna never stop cheating. I
- 1:03:23Speaker 12: know she's doing something and we ain't even make it
- 1:03:25Speaker 12: down the aisle yet. So yes, while marriage is something
- 1:03:28Speaker 12: that you want, that's a little further down.
- 1:03:30Speaker 2: The line for you both.
- 1:03:31Speaker 12: Thank you, You welcome, babes.
- 1:03:33Speaker 1: Go love mama, Just fix my madam saying and you
- 1:03:36Speaker 1: want an amble road to stop the sluatwalk, Okay.
- 1:03:39Speaker 16: You want her to stop.
- 1:03:41Speaker 2: She wanted to stop.
- 1:03:42Speaker 3: Because to her, lady needs something to do.
- 1:03:44Speaker 2: I didn't wanted to stop.
- 1:03:48Speaker 12: I just felt like it was complete contradictory why she stopped?
- 1:03:51Speaker 4: Eight hundred five eight five five on just fix My
- 1:03:54Speaker 4: messes the Breakfast Club, God, Morning Wanning, everybody, It's DJ
- 1:03:57Speaker 4: n V, Jess, Larry Charlamagne, the God all the Breakfast Club,
- 1:04:02Speaker 4: Just fix my mess We have shared on a lot right, Cherry, Oh, Sherry,
- 1:04:06Speaker 4: I'm sorry, take us off bluetooth for.
- 1:04:07Speaker 2: Speaker, Cherry Chevyry Erry, what's question that?
- 1:04:17Speaker 10: Brooklyn's tune?
- 1:04:18Speaker 6: Look and beyond a playing time, it's gonna what's good
- 1:04:21Speaker 6: your morning?
- 1:04:21Speaker 12: I don't want to class shot a Clyde definitely.
- 1:04:30Speaker 2: It's five o'clock somewhere. You'll all right, Jack, So I
- 1:04:32Speaker 2: want you to fix my message?
- 1:04:34Speaker 16: What's that?
- 1:04:34Speaker 5: Baby? What you got? All right?
- 1:04:36Speaker 7: I got this X right now.
- 1:04:37Speaker 6: We went together for like two years, and then we
- 1:04:39Speaker 6: were still together physically for two years after we had
- 1:04:42Speaker 6: broke up. But in those two years we broke up,
- 1:04:44Speaker 6: he was with another person.
- 1:04:46Speaker 10: Living with her, engaged to her. I don't care about that.
- 1:04:49Speaker 2: I trained that meet myself, you feel me, So it
- 1:04:51Speaker 2: was kind of hard for me to leave that alone
- 1:04:55Speaker 2: all it.
- 1:04:55Speaker 6: So whatever we broke up for, you know, trying to
- 1:04:57Speaker 6: train somebody else from scratches kind of but I attempted.
- 1:05:01Speaker 2: And when our attempted, they was just terrible, back to back.
- 1:05:04Speaker 10: And I'm like, I'm not catching all these frogs till
- 1:05:06Speaker 10: I get a prince.
- 1:05:07Speaker 6: You feel me like some of them is just told
- 1:05:10Speaker 6: And so I just want to know what I should
- 1:05:12Speaker 6: do girl, cause you know that that meets forever man?
- 1:05:15Speaker 2: Or should I let this girl have her fiance.
- 1:05:17Speaker 10: Like they gonna be married and all that.
- 1:05:20Speaker 12: I know, I know, but this is the thing because
- 1:05:23Speaker 12: I think I want to tell you to go ahead
- 1:05:25Speaker 12: and pursue him, because that should actually train that meet
- 1:05:27Speaker 12: and all of that.
- 1:05:27Speaker 3: I get that.
- 1:05:28Speaker 12: But if he's about to walk down the aisle with
- 1:05:30Speaker 12: another shorty and he just you know, at this point,
- 1:05:33Speaker 12: he's just using you for the convenience, he is.
- 1:05:36Speaker 6: Not using when I'm the one initiating, I hit him up, like,
- 1:05:39Speaker 6: I know y'all got whatever y'all got going on, but
- 1:05:41Speaker 6: you're busy today because I need something real quick, you
- 1:05:43Speaker 6: feel me.
- 1:05:44Speaker 10: But I'm gonna know, like, well, I don't.
- 1:05:46Speaker 12: Think you got anything to even worry about because one
- 1:05:48Speaker 12: shorty get a you know, get away this. She ain't
- 1:05:52Speaker 12: walking down the aisle, so you're gonna have him, believe
- 1:05:54Speaker 12: it or not.
- 1:05:55Speaker 10: You know that's the thing.
- 1:05:56Speaker 2: I don't never want him back.
- 1:05:58Speaker 6: I want that, And that's why I let him have
- 1:06:00Speaker 6: this fiance, because you know, let that girl deal with
- 1:06:02Speaker 6: the headache.
- 1:06:03Speaker 2: I just feel me.
- 1:06:04Speaker 10: I just want to know should I keep doing that?
- 1:06:06Speaker 2: Should I be abstine, like, what should I do?
- 1:06:08Speaker 13: Dad?
- 1:06:08Speaker 5: No, I don't.
- 1:06:09Speaker 12: Yes, it's so much meat out here.
- 1:06:12Speaker 2: I think.
- 1:06:13Speaker 12: You know, you train one dog, you can train another
- 1:06:15Speaker 12: one is.
- 1:06:15Speaker 2: Yes, it is, and when I tried it it was horrible. Yeah,
- 1:06:21Speaker 2: let her have that.
- 1:06:22Speaker 12: Uh, that's her headache now. And I think, like I said,
- 1:06:26Speaker 12: you you're done. All you want is to meet.
- 1:06:28Speaker 2: That's fine.
- 1:06:29Speaker 12: Some things just run its course. You need to leave
- 1:06:31Speaker 12: him alone, let him be married, let.
- 1:06:33Speaker 2: Him figure it out.
- 1:06:33Speaker 12: That ain't for him because obviously if he's still willingly
- 1:06:36Speaker 12: cheating on his fiance, he ain't he walked on out yet,
- 1:06:39Speaker 12: then that's that's something that he gonna keep doing. You
- 1:06:41Speaker 12: ain't even got to be a casualty of that. I
- 1:06:43Speaker 12: know you initiating and all that, But would you want
- 1:06:45Speaker 12: your man, your your fiance to do the same thing
- 1:06:48Speaker 12: to you?
- 1:06:49Speaker 3: I don't exactly.
- 1:06:51Speaker 12: And what's going to come a time where somebody's gonna
- 1:06:53Speaker 12: put a ring on your finger, miss ma'am, because if
- 1:06:55Speaker 12: you training meet and all that.
- 1:06:56Speaker 8: Yes, I believe God again, jets, I think he can't
- 1:06:59Speaker 8: hear you.
- 1:07:00Speaker 4: So I want you to lead at along just where
- 1:07:02Speaker 4: you think she's from, I say, Brooklyn, She definitely from
- 1:07:04Speaker 4: New York.
- 1:07:05Speaker 12: I don't even know that the barrels or whatever, but
- 1:07:07Speaker 12: she definitely from New York.
- 1:07:10Speaker 1: I smelled Brooklyn, but I'm sorry I smelled Brooklyn, but
- 1:07:15Speaker 1: I think this is the Bronx. Yeah, yeah, smell Brooklyn.
- 1:07:22Speaker 12: They gotta smell good luck and training that D the
- 1:07:25Speaker 12: meat what you call it, that's right, says.
- 1:07:28Speaker 3: You got to stop repeating things just because you hear people.
- 1:07:30Speaker 2: Saying I just like it sound. I said, you got
- 1:07:33Speaker 2: said good luck with trading the D. She ain't never
- 1:07:35Speaker 2: say she trained the di. She said, I trained that meat.
- 1:07:37Speaker 3: But you ain't hear you in the background that.
- 1:07:41Speaker 2: I did not say that. You did you want to
- 1:07:44Speaker 2: be with the girl? I saved you. Goodbye, Thank you.
- 1:07:53Speaker 4: Sherry Druggish, Oh my gosh, all right, just the Breakfast
- 1:07:58Speaker 4: Local Morning, the Breakfast Club.
- 1:08:03Speaker 2: Mourning.
- 1:08:03Speaker 4: Everybody is dj NV just hilarious, Charlamagne the God. We
- 1:08:08Speaker 4: are the Breakfast Club. Now if you're just joining us
- 1:08:10Speaker 4: during get it off your chest. A gentleman called in
- 1:08:13Speaker 4: and said he was having a problem with his relationship
- 1:08:15Speaker 4: and this was bothering him.
- 1:08:16Speaker 2: So let's listen.
- 1:08:17Speaker 8: First thing, I just want to get this on a
- 1:08:18Speaker 8: check I can't say that to my girl, so I'm gonna.
- 1:08:21Speaker 10: Just say it to y'all.
- 1:08:22Speaker 8: I hate my girl. Dogs, Okay, I don't know how
- 1:08:26Speaker 8: okay to ah the dog people out there.
- 1:08:28Speaker 12: I don't know how y'all deal with.
- 1:08:30Speaker 8: Dogs running all around y'all house and doget everywhere. But
- 1:08:33Speaker 8: just about to make me say, hey, I can't do
- 1:08:35Speaker 8: it no more. I had a dream about the dolls
- 1:08:38Speaker 8: last night.
- 1:08:42Speaker 3: Did you and your wife have a conversation? Did you
- 1:08:44Speaker 3: tell her how you feel?
- 1:08:45Speaker 10: Yeah, we had one a.
- 1:08:46Speaker 8: Few months ago, and that now do a bigger argument.
- 1:08:48Speaker 2: So I ain't trying to go there no more.
- 1:08:51Speaker 4: So we're asking eight hundred five eight five one five one,
- 1:08:54Speaker 4: what's your relationship?
- 1:08:55Speaker 5: Pet? Peeve?
- 1:08:56Speaker 2: Let's start with you, Jess.
- 1:08:58Speaker 12: All right, when you don't have no fault in your
- 1:09:01Speaker 12: mother's wall, see you involved in your business, because then
- 1:09:03Speaker 12: it leaks over into our business. When you want to
- 1:09:06Speaker 12: take you on a date, but ask you where you
- 1:09:08Speaker 12: want to go, excuse me, if you want to take
- 1:09:10Speaker 12: me on a date, plan the date.
- 1:09:12Speaker 2: I don't like a nigga.
- 1:09:14Speaker 12: That'd be like like, plan the date, learn me you
- 1:09:19Speaker 12: know what I like? If you don't like the East
- 1:09:20Speaker 12: steak We are you gonna take me? Not out big,
- 1:09:23Speaker 12: but where are you gonna take me? You know what
- 1:09:25Speaker 12: I'm saying, I don't like that.
- 1:09:27Speaker 2: Well, he can't.
- 1:09:32Speaker 3: Like couples.
- 1:09:37Speaker 4: Talk about your man can fix some other problem, like
- 1:09:40Speaker 4: they can't if they take with their mom, they can't
- 1:09:42Speaker 4: fix that.
- 1:09:42Speaker 13: No, no, no, no no.
- 1:09:43Speaker 2: And sometimes if I take you to a restaurant, then
- 1:09:47Speaker 2: you'll be like, why we go to this restaurant? Why
- 1:09:48Speaker 2: do we not go to restaurant? So what are you
- 1:09:49Speaker 2: feeling for today? Baby?
- 1:09:51Speaker 5: No?
- 1:09:51Speaker 12: No, no, no, it's a date. It's all in the place.
- 1:09:53Speaker 12: Take the initiative to be like, you know what, I'm
- 1:09:55Speaker 12: gonna take her here?
- 1:09:57Speaker 5: You know.
- 1:09:57Speaker 12: And the reason why I say, you know, no out
- 1:09:59Speaker 12: bext I'm not talking about like because the price of
- 1:10:02Speaker 12: it and you know the tear that it's on. I'm
- 1:10:03Speaker 12: talking about because it has steak in the name, just
- 1:10:06Speaker 12: because it got steak in the name.
- 1:10:07Speaker 2: Don't don't do that out back steakhouse.
- 1:10:09Speaker 5: Don't do that.
- 1:10:10Speaker 3: You are hard to please though.
- 1:10:13Speaker 5: You don't like nothing.
- 1:10:15Speaker 12: I mean, you don't eat nothing, so it's kind of
- 1:10:17Speaker 12: hard to go anywhere and enjoy myself. Okay, but no, no,
- 1:10:23Speaker 12: it's about the dad like it starts with the day.
- 1:10:24Speaker 12: If your dad not already like not in your life,
- 1:10:28Speaker 12: that that push you close to your mother. Then your
- 1:10:30Speaker 12: mother feel like she's dating you, so she got to
- 1:10:32Speaker 12: be in your relationships.
- 1:10:33Speaker 2: I ain't with none of it.
- 1:10:35Speaker 12: So but no, no, I'm not talking about Chris, not
- 1:10:37Speaker 12: talking about you, baby.
- 1:10:39Speaker 3: What are you talking about?
- 1:10:40Speaker 5: People?
- 1:10:42Speaker 2: Relationship? Got people? This is I mean, I don't have
- 1:10:48Speaker 2: these problems now, Okay, Well mine is leeless.
- 1:10:51Speaker 4: My wife is always late. I'm talking to you, gain
- 1:10:52Speaker 4: like you said about Chris, I'm talking to you. My
- 1:10:57Speaker 4: wife is always late, okay, to the point where I
- 1:11:01Speaker 4: have to lie about the time. So if you have
- 1:11:02Speaker 4: a party at nine, I gotta tell the parties at
- 1:11:04Speaker 4: eight and we still go get that nine.
- 1:11:05Speaker 2: Thirty ten o'clock.
- 1:11:06Speaker 3: It is what it is.
- 1:11:08Speaker 4: But the problem, the problem I have is she'd be late,
- 1:11:11Speaker 4: and then when I'm downstairs watching the TV, wait want
- 1:11:13Speaker 4: you like, let's go to Scoll, Let's go scol Let's.
- 1:11:15Speaker 2: Go now wait on you? Now we'aiting on you. I
- 1:11:17Speaker 2: hate that. So you always on time? Yeah, I'm always
- 1:11:19Speaker 2: on time.
- 1:11:20Speaker 12: So you're not black?
- 1:11:21Speaker 2: What's your.
- 1:11:24Speaker 3: Not answering the phone?
- 1:11:25Speaker 1: You know, my wife and I have different phone habits,
- 1:11:27Speaker 1: Like my phone is usually on me or near me,
- 1:11:29Speaker 1: so I'm quick to answer if I want to answer
- 1:11:31Speaker 1: for the person. But she doesn't literally walking around with
- 1:11:34Speaker 1: her phone on her. But my thing is, that's cool.
- 1:11:36Speaker 1: When everybody is home, like when I'm home and all
- 1:11:38Speaker 1: the kids home, none of us need to really be
- 1:11:40Speaker 1: near our phones because even the parents know the house
- 1:11:42Speaker 1: phone and stuff like that. But when everybody isn't home,
- 1:11:45Speaker 1: keep your phone on you because you never know what
- 1:11:46Speaker 1: I'm calling and why I'm calling. Keep your phone on you,
- 1:11:49Speaker 1: So not answering the phone. That's my my pet peek.
- 1:11:51Speaker 1: All right, well, let's go to the phone lines.
- 1:11:52Speaker 4: Hello, who's this, Yes, sir, good morning from Andy.
- 1:11:58Speaker 2: What's up?
- 1:11:58Speaker 8: Brother?
- 1:11:58Speaker 2: What's your pet? Peeve? In a relationship, it's two.
- 1:12:00Speaker 5: Of them, man.
- 1:12:01Speaker 9: One of them is a woman that doesn't have a relationship.
- 1:12:04Speaker 9: You sound like corny for the relationship, God, And the
- 1:12:07Speaker 9: second one don't sound kind of dang And I can't
- 1:12:09Speaker 9: say the woman that don't work out, she gotta be active.
- 1:12:11Speaker 12: Okay, Well you don't sound just just for the record,
- 1:12:14Speaker 12: you don't sound corny wanting a woman that has a
- 1:12:16Speaker 12: relationship with God.
- 1:12:17Speaker 2: That's not corny, that's a good that's a good one.
- 1:12:20Speaker 9: But that sounds cliche though. It sounds cliche to say,
- 1:12:22Speaker 9: but it's so unfairtive that you have a relationship. But
- 1:12:25Speaker 9: just as important, I need her active because I can't
- 1:12:27Speaker 9: be looking halfway deeply A big body.
- 1:12:29Speaker 2: You don't want, no big bats, no big bag.
- 1:12:32Speaker 1: I think, God, what does what does she see? That's
- 1:12:36Speaker 1: what she need to be praying to God to lose
- 1:12:38Speaker 1: that weight. Yeah, you don't believe in God?
- 1:12:42Speaker 2: Hello, who's this maya maya? Good morning? What's a pet
- 1:12:46Speaker 2: peeve in a relationship for you?
- 1:12:48Speaker 7: I've been with my husband for ten years today, and
- 1:12:52Speaker 7: he's flobbers and snores riverd ooh. And I'm a light sleeper,
- 1:12:56Speaker 7: like I can hear a pin drop like little. He
- 1:13:00Speaker 7: holds me up from some time. But he comes to
- 1:13:02Speaker 7: bed like two fiir o'clock in the morning most of
- 1:13:04Speaker 7: the time because he's not playing the game. But once
- 1:13:07Speaker 7: he comes to bed, it's like I can't, I can't
- 1:13:10Speaker 7: go back to sleep.
- 1:13:11Speaker 2: Yea, what the hell?
- 1:13:12Speaker 5: Why the hell?
- 1:13:12Speaker 3: Either one of y'all ain't got no jobs. Y'all got
- 1:13:14Speaker 3: to get up there in the morning. Why he get
- 1:13:15Speaker 3: to go to bed at three o'clock in the morning.
- 1:13:18Speaker 2: What's up, baby?
- 1:13:19Speaker 7: We do. We worked out with the schedules because our
- 1:13:22Speaker 7: kids aren't in daycare.
- 1:13:24Speaker 3: Okay, so what's got you?
- 1:13:27Speaker 5: Okay?
- 1:13:28Speaker 2: I feel bad, you know, because you know, snarts a
- 1:13:29Speaker 2: lot of times. You can't fix that. That's like, yeah,
- 1:13:32Speaker 2: sometimes medical problematical problem. He don't do that on purpose.
- 1:13:36Speaker 7: Man, Listen, I ain't never seen nobody snoring laying on
- 1:13:38Speaker 7: a belly like this. This is a great dang.
- 1:13:41Speaker 2: You don't nudge him, you know, push him there so
- 1:13:43Speaker 2: he wake up a little bit.
- 1:13:44Speaker 7: I do all night. I'm kicking.
- 1:13:46Speaker 1: I'm hicking.
- 1:13:47Speaker 13: I'm like.
- 1:13:50Speaker 12: And she says, slop material probably stank billows price.
- 1:13:54Speaker 9: Yay.
- 1:13:55Speaker 3: Yeah, won't you get something like an air plugs or something?
- 1:13:58Speaker 2: Word and we got fodcast?
- 1:14:00Speaker 7: Go ahead, All five of them kids blobber. It's crazy.
- 1:14:03Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta leave that family.
- 1:14:04Speaker 1: Baby.
- 1:14:06Speaker 2: It's like, no, no, no, I'm joking you the better
- 1:14:10Speaker 2: for worse though you said it.
- 1:14:12Speaker 5: That's right.
- 1:14:13Speaker 4: I'm Floyd eight hundred five eight five one oh five one.
- 1:14:17Speaker 4: We're asking what's a pet peeve in your relationship? Let's
- 1:14:19Speaker 4: discuss it's the breakfast Club.
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