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THE DAMNED's CAPTAIN SENSIBLE Reflects On 50 Years Of Punk Chaos · HEAVY Music Interviews

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  Speaker 1: Hello. My name's Captain Sensible play in this daft punk
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  Speaker 1: group called The Damned, and we've been on the road
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  Speaker 1: now for fifty bloody years. It sounds like a life sentence,
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  Speaker 1: it does.
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  Speaker 2: It's crazy. I can't believe it. I bet you can't
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  Speaker 2: believe it either. And look, you are heading over here
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  Speaker 2: to Australia for the fiftieth anniversary tour in September. Do
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  Speaker 2: you have any memories from your prior visits here?
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  Speaker 1: Well? Yeah, I had the best Tempei veggie burger I
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  Speaker 1: ever had in my life in what is it Perth? Ah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: just a lot of partying. Really. We were well known
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  Speaker 1: for our party.
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  Speaker 2: In Yes, yes, so I've heard. And that's so funny
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  Speaker 2: that the main thing you remember it is a veggie burger.
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  Speaker 2: I'm glad that you had a good veggie burger here, or.
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  Speaker 1: You don't get Tempe in in northern Europe, that's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: So it was. It was quite unusual, and yeah I
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  Speaker 1: liked it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh nice, And you guys are celebrating fifty yes
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  Speaker 2: this year. When you look back at that first version
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  Speaker 2: of the band in nineteen seventy six, what would surprise
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  Speaker 2: that younger Captain sensible most about where you are today.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the fact that anyone liked what we were doing. Really,
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  Speaker 1: I never thought it would last more than three weeks,
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  Speaker 1: three or four weeks, because the big bands at the time,
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  Speaker 1: the Genesis, Yes and Emson, Lighton Palmer and you know,
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  Speaker 1: all these stadium eric Clapps at these stadium rock bands
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  Speaker 1: were so massive, and we were playing little pubs in
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  Speaker 1: front of like forty fifty people, and most of them
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  Speaker 1: would kind of walk out after a few numbers because
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  Speaker 1: what we were playing the time, it was quite radical,
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  Speaker 1: this this kick ass, uncompromising kind of noise music. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you start upset people, you start upset audiences. So I
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  Speaker 1: honestly never thought anyone would let us make an album,
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  Speaker 1: let alone still be doing it fifty years later. I
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  Speaker 1: think maybe possibly it's because the reason we've lasted so
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  Speaker 1: long is because we are a real band, and we
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  Speaker 1: do play you know, our version of rock and roll
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  Speaker 1: with you know, an element of danger is completely live
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  Speaker 1: and un choreographed, and you never you don't really know
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  Speaker 1: what's going to happen next, even us, we don't know
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  Speaker 1: how a gig's going to go, you know what, It's
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  Speaker 1: different every night, and that's the great thing about you know,
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  Speaker 1: playing proper kind of organic, live like and role.
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  Speaker 2: That's it, isn't it. You guys still bring that organic
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  Speaker 2: and raw feel to your performances today. I think that
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  Speaker 2: maybe that's a part of why, you know, people still
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  Speaker 2: resonate with the music and love to go and see
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  Speaker 2: your shows.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and also because you never know when the last
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  Speaker 1: down tour or last Dan gig is going to be.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I think we're gonna that's it. Yeah, So
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  Speaker 1: we're still doing it now because we can do it
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  Speaker 1: with and do them do the songs justice. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it's very important to you know, it's playing with a
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  Speaker 1: bit of authenticity. Yeah, if it starts getting tame and
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  Speaker 1: kind of you know and old and jaded, we're not
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  Speaker 1: on the head. But it isn't the sense to kick
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  Speaker 1: our asses every night you go on stage. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it's you're sitting in addressing if you're where the fuck
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  Speaker 1: is it gonna come from tonight? You know, and when
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  Speaker 1: you get out on the stage and like whoa, there
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  Speaker 1: you go, it's fucking brilliant. Yes, you know, since that
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  Speaker 1: starts pounding the drums for New Rose, it's just so
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  Speaker 1: viby and exciting.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, as you were saying, when you go
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  Speaker 2: out and play a show, you don't know what it's
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  Speaker 2: going to be like and how it's going to go,
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  Speaker 2: and what is your favorite song to play live at
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  Speaker 2: the moment, and has that changed over the years.
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  Speaker 1: I've always liked this song called Neat Neat, Neat, because
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  Speaker 1: it's got this wonderful, quirky bassline, and it's a great
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  Speaker 1: it's a great it's a great dance track really if
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  Speaker 1: you like it's a real toe tapper, but it's also
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  Speaker 1: really marvelous to kind of noodle around and jam around,
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  Speaker 1: and so you can actually if you wanted to keep
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  Speaker 1: and we have done this and kept it going for
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  Speaker 1: ten minutes. You know, it sounds a bit problem, but
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  Speaker 1: we don't. I promise we won't be doing that unless
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  Speaker 1: I think you should. Perhaps sometimes if Dave, if Dave
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  Speaker 1: wanders off into the audience and it goes walk about, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: sometimes he leaves the band to kind of you know,
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  Speaker 1: get it, get it, the old psychedelic psychedelia going. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, it's one of those songs that enables, you know,
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  Speaker 1: an adventurous instrumental. Instrumental Yeah, why not?
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  Speaker 2: I totally. Yeah, that's awesome. Please bring that here. If
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  Speaker 2: you can put it on the set list or something,
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  Speaker 2: make it ten minutes long, that'd be awesome. And when
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  Speaker 2: people do talk about The Damned, they often mentioned punk,
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  Speaker 2: but the band has always experimented with different sounds. Was
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  Speaker 2: that willingness to evolve something you consciously protected.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we went on a musical adventure every album. It
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  Speaker 1: wasn't a rule, but we don't like to repeat ourselves.
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  Speaker 1: We find that boring. Yeah, each each album has its
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  Speaker 1: own sound. Yeah, and it wasn't contrived, you know, it's
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  Speaker 1: just it's just evolved that way. Dave was bringing darker
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  Speaker 1: material to the studio and which culminated in The Damned
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  Speaker 1: being part of the goth scene in the Aces. But
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  Speaker 1: it was it just it just evolved that way.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, No, I definitely, even song to song, I
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  Speaker 2: hear album to album. Definitely, you can hear those different
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  Speaker 2: musical genres, but even song to song as well, Like
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  Speaker 2: you were saying, you can get up and dance to
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  Speaker 2: certain songs or you know, some of them really feel
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  Speaker 2: a bit more punk or goth. Yeah, I have to
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  Speaker 2: ask you now something a bit random. But my dad
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  Speaker 2: saw you guys at the Rainbow Theater in London back
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  Speaker 2: in the day, and he swears you were wearing a
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  Speaker 2: dinosaur suit on stage. Is that something you actually remember doing?
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  Speaker 1: Well, yes, that was. That was my best ever outfit,
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  Speaker 1: I would have. I only wore it that one night,
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  Speaker 1: and the reason being that, I mean it was attached
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  Speaker 1: to like a little vacuum cleaner pump, so which was
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  Speaker 1: and I was plugged in, so it was constantly been
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  Speaker 1: blown up, you know, to keep the to keep the
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  Speaker 1: suit kind of you know, inflated or inflated. That's yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So anyway, so I had this big old dinosaur taiale
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  Speaker 1: and I was swinging it and I was whacking the
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  Speaker 1: front row of the audience in the face, which which
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  Speaker 1: amused me knowing until some some some member of the
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  Speaker 1: audience grabbed the tail and pulled me into the audience
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  Speaker 1: and so I ended up like sort of it. And
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  Speaker 1: when I re emerged from the audience, I was stark
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  Speaker 1: naked and if you honor under it because it was
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  Speaker 1: obviously incredibly hot. Yeah, so I played the rest of
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  Speaker 1: the gig naked. So anyway, so that's why there was
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  Speaker 1: no repeat of that, because I think everyone everyone went
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  Speaker 1: home with a piece of it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh jeez, Well my dad left out the part where
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  Speaker 2: you were naked, So now I have to go back
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  Speaker 2: and clarify that. Oh my goodness. I was going to say,
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  Speaker 2: could you do some costumes this time around? But I
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  Speaker 2: think those days.
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  Speaker 1: Are over us.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I used to see it as my job to try
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  Speaker 1: and rab more of the more of my fair share
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  Speaker 1: of the spotlight. Yeah than I deserve. My job was
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  Speaker 1: to kind of upstage the singer. Really of course, that's
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  Speaker 1: where the that's where the dinosaurs said, and all the
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  Speaker 1: rest of the crazy outfits came from.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Oh I love that.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that's crazy. And look, if you had to pick
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  Speaker 2: one moment from the entire fifty year journey that still
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  Speaker 2: feels unreal to you today, what would it be.
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  Speaker 1: Oh? Well, I'm rather enjoying this golden period at the
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  Speaker 1: end of the the end of a ridiculous fifty year career.
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  Speaker 1: Can you believe it? So, I think it's really funny.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's funny that we're playing venues that banned
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  Speaker 1: us back in the day, places like Royal Albert Hall
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  Speaker 1: in London. I mean, they actually really did ban us.
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  Speaker 1: And I've seen the letter you know the letter they
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  Speaker 1: wrote to our management back in the late seventies. They said,
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  Speaker 1: this is not the sort of it's not the sort
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  Speaker 1: of band that we really want to, you know, to
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  Speaker 1: be playing our venue. And so with that in mind,
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  Speaker 1: we're playing Sydney Opera House and I think that's a
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  Speaker 1: similar kind of thing, you know, it's it's kind of
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  Speaker 1: ridiculous that a band like The Damned are playing a
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  Speaker 1: place like that, you know, because you know, we still
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  Speaker 1: are fairly anti establishment and you know we're we are
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  Speaker 1: a rebel band if you like. Yeah, you know, so
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  Speaker 1: to play a venue like that, I think it's like
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  Speaker 1: win win for the kind of you know, the the
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  Speaker 1: odd balls of life, like the misfits of society. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it's two fingers to you know, people saying you can't
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  Speaker 1: do that. No, no, no, it's not for the likes
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  Speaker 1: of you, Yes, blood is.
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  Speaker 2: I can't imagine how that feels, as you said, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: being banned from certain venues and now playing them like
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  Speaker 2: and being welcomed back with open arms.
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  Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean we played the Abbot Hall, but
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  Speaker 1: they made us pay for it. I mean, as we will.
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  Speaker 1: He said, Can we use the organ? Yes? The lady
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  Speaker 1: with a clipboarder threw back a couple of sheets of
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  Speaker 1: paper and said, yes, that will cost you like sort
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  Speaker 1: of three and a half. Can we can we have
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  Speaker 1: the bar open after the gig so we can like,
• 12:05
  Speaker 1: you know, hop nod with our chums. Yes, she looked
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  Speaker 1: at the clipboard again. Yeah, that will cost you five
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  Speaker 1: hundred pounds. Jeez, frash venue, but they make you pay
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  Speaker 1: for it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I can absolutely imagine speaking of venues too.
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  Speaker 2: Reviews of the Wembley show called one of the greatest
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  Speaker 2: performances in the Damn's history. Did it feel special from
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  Speaker 2: the stage or were you too busy trying not to
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  Speaker 2: mess up the songs?
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  Speaker 1: That absolutely bloody brilliant and yeah, the audience played their part.
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  Speaker 1: It was just they were all dressed up and you know,
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  Speaker 1: we took over that little part of Wembley that night.
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  Speaker 1: And it's not the sort of venue that really I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's a big old concrete shed. Really, I mean a
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  Speaker 1: band like us, you want to see us in a
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  Speaker 1: in a in a club or a party even, you know, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and get up closer. I like to hear the heck
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  Speaker 1: horse from the audience. Yeah, get some feisty banta going, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's part of the show for me. I like that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, but playing Wembley was it was like
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  Speaker 1: it was the fiftieth anniversary show. So we managed to
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  Speaker 1: get some screens up and like we were we were
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  Speaker 1: playing you know, videos of what we look like back
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  Speaker 1: then and what we look like now, which must have
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  Speaker 1: been funny for the audience, who are these.
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  Speaker 2: Old Yeah, no, absolutely, it was wonderful. I watched it.
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  Speaker 2: New Rose particularly had such emotion to it. How did
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  Speaker 2: you feel playing that one?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one of those songs that you know when
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  Speaker 1: you're in a dressing room sometimes if you're fucking hell unknackered,
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  Speaker 1: you know where we're going to, where we're going to
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  Speaker 1: find it from tonight, and you get out on the
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  Speaker 1: stage and you know the drum riff from New Rosa
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  Speaker 1: Rat kicks in and well it's just like it kind
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  Speaker 1: of lifts you, It kicks you up the arts. The
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  Speaker 1: song is. It's so much fun to play. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: anyone who does a color version of it will tell you.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, yeah, No, it was just something very special.
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  Speaker 2: I highly recommend that everyone if you're a fan of
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  Speaker 2: the damn even if you're not, you go watch it.
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  Speaker 2: It was fantastic. And what is what keeps the chemistry
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  Speaker 2: between yourself, Dave, Rat and Paul so special after all
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  Speaker 2: these years.
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  Speaker 1: I think we find each other amusing. There are a
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: bunch of interesting people in their own respect. You know.
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  Speaker 1: Esca is he's always he has this search for the
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: Holy Grail, and he's he's genuinely like looking for it,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he's that he thinks he's got a lead
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  Speaker 1: on it. And there's a book, there's a book Rat
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: Scabies in the Holy Rail out there. Yeah, I recommend highly.
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  Speaker 1: It's like one of the funniest reads you'll ever have.
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  Speaker 1: Dave Vanian is like sort of you know, actually he's yeh,
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  Speaker 1: considering he's you know, the dark Lord and all that,
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  Speaker 1: he's actually a very funny bloke and he's a brilliant
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: mimic and can do you know the comedians from from
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  Speaker 1: our earlier life, you know, Tommy Cooper and Jennif Williams
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  Speaker 1: all these things. Oh no, Matron, he does all that
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  Speaker 1: really well, which you don't expect from him. He's a
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  Speaker 1: very he's quite a funny chat and Paul is like
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  Speaker 1: sort of, you know, it's mister horticulture and he's full
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  Speaker 1: of gardening tips when he's not when he's not talking
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  Speaker 1: about bass guitars, he's got about one hundred and fifty
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  Speaker 1: of them.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, that's awesome. How about you? What is some of
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  Speaker 2: your hobbies aside from music?
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  Speaker 1: Oh? God? Was? It's all about the food these days.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I go out for lunch every day and I try
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  Speaker 1: and hit a different restaurant, you know, and and I
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  Speaker 1: write reviews. It's sad, no, so when I'm on tour
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  Speaker 1: and that I mean, it used to be about the
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  Speaker 1: booze and the bars and the birds, and of course
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: maybe maybe the illegal substances. But nowadays it's all about
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  Speaker 1: like sort of you know, all about you know, what
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  Speaker 1: kind of culinary treats that are in store for me
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  Speaker 1: in this lunch.
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  Speaker 2: I love that. I love that.
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  Speaker 1: Do you know?
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  Speaker 2: What's funny is as I've gotten older, I've become more
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  Speaker 2: interested in things like crafts and things that I never
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  Speaker 2: thought i'd be doing. I feel like a grandma, you know,
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  Speaker 2: interested in all her crafts. But it's funny how these
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  Speaker 2: mundane things like they just give us so much. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know about you, but I get so much joy
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  Speaker 2: from just doing simple, mundane things, and like you're saying
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  Speaker 2: the food reviews, that's really that's awesome, and you get
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: to travel to different countries and do that.
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  Speaker 1: Too, exactly. Yeah. I found this market cafe in Santiago
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  Speaker 1: in It's chilly, wasn't it. Yeah, that was incredible. I
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  Speaker 1: mean and I was in the queue with my food
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  Speaker 1: you buy the ticket first, and there was no tourists
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  Speaker 1: there at all. I mean it's one of those places
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  Speaker 1: maybe you know, no tourists have ever been, and I
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  Speaker 1: just had whatever they dished up on the plate that
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  Speaker 1: was going to be my lunch, and it was like fantastic.
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  Speaker 2: Ah, so jealous. Would would that be your favorite item
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  Speaker 2: of food that you've discovered? Do you think?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm mainly vegetarians, so some some places it's more difficult.
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  Speaker 1: I remember touring Germany back in the day. It was
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  Speaker 1: just impossible and all the rest of it. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but nowadays it's easier. I had a great teen paper
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  Speaker 1: in perf I remember, because we don't get temp in
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  Speaker 1: northern Europe.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, no, that's that's so amazing. That's awesome. Do
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  Speaker 2: you eat This is off record, but do you eat
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  Speaker 2: fish or.
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  Speaker 1: Do you're not?
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  Speaker 2: Really?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we eat fish.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: The doctor advised me, yes, this is my knees. My
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  Speaker 1: knees were going and I was I found stairs were
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: getting difficult.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: You need that Omega three fatty acid.
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  Speaker 1: It's helped.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, O wonderful. Okay, now that I've strayed off
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  Speaker 2: the conversation. Okay. The Dam was the first to release
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: a UK punk single, first to release a UK punk
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  Speaker 2: album album, and among the first punk bands to crack
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  Speaker 2: at America. Do you feel the band gets enough credit
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  Speaker 2: for how much ground it broke?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean we were, you know, on the on
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  Speaker 1: the scene the same time as Sex Pistols and the Crash.
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  Speaker 1: But those silly bastards waited for a big money record deals,
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  Speaker 1: so they they weren't the first to do all this stuff.
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  Speaker 1: We were. We signed with di Y label and Stiff Records,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, it was a it was a low
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: budget kind of punk rock thing. I mean, we were
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: with CBS or A n M or am I or
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: any of his posh labels. We were. We were doing
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: it the punk rock way, and we were all packing
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: each other's records. You know, we were putting the sleeves
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: on the singles for other bands and helping each each
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: other out, like roading for each other. And it was
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: it was very much a little a little punk rock
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  Speaker 1: community down to Stiff Records and reckless Eric and madness
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: and you know, yeah it was. It was a good scene.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, truly grassroots, wasn't it.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know in a way that yeah, I
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: like I like that DIY philosophy and that anyone can
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: do it, you know, just anyone's got a book in
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: them are anyone can write a song just by a guitar.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: It's still the same ethic as it always was, you know,
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  Speaker 1: just just do it, don't don't think about it, Just
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: do it. Don't let other people do it for you.
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  Speaker 1: You know, everyone's got some creative sparking and you've got
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  Speaker 1: to find it.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: And use it. What a perfect way to end this cap.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your time. It's been amazing
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  Speaker 2: and we can't wait to see you here in September.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Alright, this is a golden period at the end
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: of a roller coaster fifty year career. So I see
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: this is like the victory lap at the end, you know,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: the end of the match. So we're really enjoying it.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: The bandy getting on we're playing well still and it's
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: just a fantastic thing. And you know, a lot of
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: the chaos and the drinking gone, so we play a
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: bit better these days.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: That's good, good to hear. Yeah, oh, fantastic. It truly
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: is amazing. That's no small feed at all. Yeah, thank
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: you so much again for your time. We don't wait
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: to see you guys.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Jess