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Enter Harry Dubin (The Golden Life Recap) · Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

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  Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Tamara Judge.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, guys. Welcome to another episode of Two Teas in
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  Speaker 2: a Pod with myself, Tamara Judge, and Dolores. Good morning, Dolores.
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  Speaker 1: Good morning.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's afternoon for me.
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  Speaker 2: It's afternoon for you.
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  Speaker 3: It's 1230.
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  Speaker 2: Three hours ahead there. Big news today. Yes. I woke
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  Speaker 2: up to a group chat and- So it wasn't the trailer,
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  Speaker 2: but it was just an announcement that you guys are coming?
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  Speaker 1: It was an announcement of who the new girls are
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  Speaker 1: and who is back.
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  Speaker 2: It was the official announcement. Now, is that your official
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  Speaker 2: cast picture? You are under a freeway? There's a car
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  Speaker 2: you guys are sitting on. It's very, very cool.
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  Speaker 3: Did you like it? I thought it was cool too.
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  Speaker 2: Did you like, was the car there? Were you on set?
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  Speaker 3: The car was there.
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  Speaker 2: Because sometimes it's just on a green screen and then
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  Speaker 2: they piece it together. But that was super cool.
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  Speaker 1: The background was amazing. It looked really good when we
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  Speaker 1: were in the studio. They did a great job.
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  Speaker 3: Kudos.
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  Speaker 2: So that freeway sign, is that like a famous freeway
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  Speaker 2: that goes through?
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  Speaker 3: The Turnpike.
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  Speaker 1: New Jersey is known for being by the Turnpike. Gotcha.
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  Speaker 1: It's a thing.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: The Turnpike, New Jersey, Taylor Ham and Egg Sandwich after
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  Speaker 1: a night at the Jersey Shore. It's all Jersey stuff. Like, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I love it. Now there was also an article that
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  Speaker 2: came out and it had Melissa and Teresa's face on it.
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  Speaker 2: And they have the spaghetti hanging from each other's mouth.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know how I feel about that.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I know that they had a full day photo
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  Speaker 1: shoot and then they were all together. You know, I
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  Speaker 1: think that everybody wants to be, I think that they
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  Speaker 1: want you to realize that that it's sincere that they
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  Speaker 1: are together.
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  Speaker 3: And they are. I've been with them many times.
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  Speaker 2: The comments are saying different.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't see any comments.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of comments about they're just doing this because
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  Speaker 2: they want their job back, things like that.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's what they probably figured people were going to say.
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  Speaker 1: And that's maybe why it was the, what is it,
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  Speaker 1: Us Weekly?
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  Speaker 2: Us Weekly, yeah. Yeah. I would have loved to see
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  Speaker 2: you in the background like Because you were such a peacekeeper,
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  Speaker 2: like just standing there with your arms crossed.
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  Speaker 3: Something would have been.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Because you guys are the
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  Speaker 2: three and it's just kind of, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Well, thank you.
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  Speaker 2: I just felt like you deserve that because you're the
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  Speaker 2: one that held it together or tried to hold it together.
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  Speaker 2: And tried to get these girls back together.
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  Speaker 1: If I would have, you know, you saying me standing
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  Speaker 1: behind them going like this, I would have stood behind
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  Speaker 1: them going like, thank you, God. Yeah, yeah, just something.
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  Speaker 2: You doing some kind of pose praying or doing something
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  Speaker 2: because I don't, it just seemed fair. But that's my opinion.
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  Speaker 2: What can I say?
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  Speaker 3: That's my opinion.
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  Speaker 1: That's my opinion.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know how many times a day I say that?
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  Speaker 1: Well, you must give a lot of opinions then.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's not. It's Cameo.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, shit.
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  Speaker 3: So they ask you to do it on Cameo.
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  Speaker 2: Uh-huh.
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  Speaker 3: Good for you.
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  Speaker 2: I say that a lot. So today we are going
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  Speaker 2: to be recapping the Golden Life Season 1, Episode 1.
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  Speaker 2: But before we get into it, I noticed that Dorinda,
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  Speaker 2: who I texted this morning and did not text me
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  Speaker 2: back yet. She's probably flooded. She's probably on her radio
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  Speaker 2: show or something. Dorinda was on Threads. During the premiere,
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  Speaker 2: and she was kind of live, I want to call
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  Speaker 2: it tweeting, but what do you call it, threading? What
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  Speaker 2: do you call it on thread?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, X-ing?
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  Speaker 1: Threading? I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Threading?
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  Speaker 2: So it says, sad. Please move on, Sonia. You're becoming scary.
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  Speaker 2: The next one, liar, liar, liar. As it continues, don't
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  Speaker 2: believe a word she says. Then the next one, sick.
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  Speaker 1: Sick.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. I am everything. Jealous, Sonia Morgan. Cover. The
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  Speaker 2: next one. It's ugly and degrading, Sonia Morgan. The next one.
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  Speaker 2: Sad that the start is with degrading women in truly gross,
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  Speaker 2: ugly words against our feminine pride.
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  Speaker 1: So let's talk about this because I saw in our
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  Speaker 1: group chat, I did see the thread of this. However,
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  Speaker 1: what prompted it?
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  Speaker 3: Did Sonya say something?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think she was like live, you know, remember
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  Speaker 2: how we used to live tweet?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. So I don't think she was responding to something.
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  Speaker 2: She was just responding to what people were, you know,
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  Speaker 2: what was happening on the show at the time. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: that makes sense now.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because at first I'm like, who's she talking to? Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That's the only thing I think of.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't want to do that.
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  Speaker 1: So she.
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  Speaker 2: She's not very happy. Dorinda's not very happy. And Sonia
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  Speaker 2: was a bit exhausting in this first episode.
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  Speaker 1: Sonia is being Sonia. Do we know her to ever
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  Speaker 1: be any different?
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  Speaker 2: No, I think because she's been off screen for a
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  Speaker 2: little while. And then she came back and we're like,
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  Speaker 2: oh my God, she's exhausting. So it starts out where
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  Speaker 2: the OG ladies are of New York are back on
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  Speaker 2: our screens. And Dorinda, Ramona, Luann, Sonia, and Kelli enjoy
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  Speaker 2: their golden years in Palm Beach, Florida.
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  Speaker 1: And the golden years. And this was an extended version.
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  Speaker 3: For myself, I say.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 2: It's an extended version. It was like over an hour long.
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  Speaker 2: It was cute how they came on and they're in
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  Speaker 2: their confessionals and talking about what they're up to and
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  Speaker 2: how things. And they don't, from what I recall, they
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  Speaker 2: don't say Bravo's name. They said when we filmed the
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  Speaker 2: other show. Mm-hmm. Did you catch that?
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  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 2: So Sonia does confirm in her confessional, or I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if it's a confirmation, but she says, or a lie,
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  Speaker 2: she says that she's sober and looking for a simple life.
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  Speaker 1: Right. I think there was one part that we'll get to,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm not going to say what I have to
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  Speaker 1: say until then, because we'll talk about it. But there
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  Speaker 1: was one part where I felt bad. I felt bad
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  Speaker 1: for Sonia.
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  Speaker 2: Really? Really.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I do.
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  Speaker 2: I do.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I think I know what part is, but we'll get
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  Speaker 2: to it. So Sonia reveals that she ended up paying
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  Speaker 2: $ 17 million in her Chapter 11 bankruptcy. I didn't know
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  Speaker 2: Sonia had that kind of money.
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  Speaker 3: She was married to JPMorgan Chase.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but she couldn't pay her townhome.
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  Speaker 1: Because she lost it all in bad decisions with her money.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: She had a French chateau.
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  Speaker 2: I understand that, but she had to auction it off
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  Speaker 2: because she didn't have the money to keep it up.
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  Speaker 2: So saying she paid $ 17 million opposed to maybe she
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  Speaker 2: lost $ 17 million? Is that what she's saying in assets?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I don't get details.
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  Speaker 1: I think that she had to pay whatever, whether it
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  Speaker 1: was in assets or money. She lost millions and millions
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  Speaker 1: of dollars. She should not be in the.
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  Speaker 2: Position she's in.
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  Speaker 3: From her bad decisions.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. The girls haven't filmed since 2021. And I was like,
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  Speaker 2: it's only been that long since they've been gone?
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  Speaker 3: Because we go a season, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: We film a season, but then it doesn't film till
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  Speaker 1: a year later. It doesn't air till a year later.
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  Speaker 2: But doesn't it feel like other than the Ultimate Girls
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  Speaker 2: Trip legacy?
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  Speaker 3: It was like 10 years.
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  Speaker 2: 10 years.
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  Speaker 3: Doesn't it seem like they've- Since I've seen them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It seems like 10 years.
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  Speaker 1: That is a long time. Does it, I mean, we've
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  Speaker 1: been off for two years. It feels like longer, doesn't it?
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  Speaker 1: It does.
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  Speaker 2: And housewife years, it seems really long.
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  Speaker 1: It's like dog years.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. But except for it's called housewife years now.
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  Speaker 1: I just like enjoy listening to them. Their lives are
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  Speaker 1: so colorful.
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  Speaker 2: So I was, this is what I was thinking. People ask,
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  Speaker 2: do you like it?
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  Speaker 1: Did you like it?
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, Yeah, I did like it. I liked it.
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  Speaker 2: I liked it because I know these women. These women
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  Speaker 2: are the OGs. These are women that I met 16, 17,
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  Speaker 2: whatever years ago. I used to sit in Ramona's kitchen
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  Speaker 2: or living room with Mario and Simon, and we would
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  Speaker 2: hang out. Then we'd go out to dinner. I've lost
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  Speaker 2: touch with Ramona, but there's so much history there.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 2: I'm still in contact with Luann. Um, Sonia, I mean, I'll,
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  Speaker 2: when I see her, I'll, I'll say hi. And we,
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  Speaker 2: you know, whatever.
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  Speaker 1: I've done shows with Sonia.
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  Speaker 3: She's extremely entertaining.
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  Speaker 2: I saw Sonia at a Bravo con. We were going
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  Speaker 2: to do like some stage thing and she was very intoxicated.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. But people know what they're signing up for. When
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  Speaker 1: you get what you get from Sonia, here's what, here's what,
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  Speaker 1: if this is, if you're looking for somebody raw, um,
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  Speaker 1: somebody real, somebody who's not putting on airs. Maybe she's
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  Speaker 1: not telling the truth because her life is very scattered
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  Speaker 1: right now. Maybe when she speaks, maybe when she speaks,
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  Speaker 1: it's kind of frazzled. Like, I don't want to say, oh,
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  Speaker 1: you lied about that because I don't know that she
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  Speaker 1: always knows what she's saying.
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  Speaker 2: She lives in Florida. She's been living there for a while, right?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: She's got a little place. Some girls move.
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  Speaker 2: There just for the show for a few months and
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  Speaker 2: some girls live there. So Ramona lives there, right?
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  Speaker 3: Ramona lives there.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if she lives there full time. She
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  Speaker 2: probably still has a house in New York, don't you think?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know her to have been
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  Speaker 1: coming back. Kelly lives in New York. Yep.
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  Speaker 2: Kelly lives in New York. Luann's apartment on this show
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  Speaker 2: is pretty amazing.
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  Speaker 3: I've heard she's doing so well with the cabaret.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I bet. She's been doing it for a while.
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  Speaker 1: She's been, she's.
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  Speaker 2: Making a lot of money, but she works hard. They've
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  Speaker 2: rent these houses. Some of them just to our production.
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  Speaker 1: I don't mind that. I don't mind that because listen,
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  Speaker 1: in this area, everybody wants to be a snowbird. You
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  Speaker 1: grow up knowing someday I'm going to live, have a
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  Speaker 1: beautiful place in Florida.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to spend my winters in Florida.
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  Speaker 1: That's what the goal is when you grow up in
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  Speaker 1: New York and New Jersey. A lot of the goals,
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  Speaker 1: I want to say. But then, you know, my mother's like,
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  Speaker 1: how could you leave your grandchildren? Ma, because there's sun
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  Speaker 1: over there and a beach.
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  Speaker 2: It's three months, Ma. Leave me alone.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, God, Valerie.
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  Speaker 2: Luann, Ramona, and Sonia meet at Ramona's place. where Sonya
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  Speaker 2: shares that not only is she a recluse, she's also
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  Speaker 2: still mad at Jorinda for excluding her from Bluestone Manor
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  Speaker 2: in season eight, which aired in 2016, claiming it cost
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  Speaker 2: her money.
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  Speaker 3: That's 10 years ago because that's the year I came on.
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  Speaker 1: Now, the Bravo universe is the universe of, what do
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  Speaker 1: we say, double standard?
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  Speaker 2: Uh-huh.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of hypocrisy, if that's the same thing as
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  Speaker 1: double standard, I don't know. But it's also the land
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  Speaker 1: and the universe of holding grudges.
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  Speaker 2: Well, let me just throw this at you. Okay. While
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  Speaker 2: they were filming back then at Bluestone Manor, Sonya actually
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  Speaker 2: didn't miss an episode because they showed solo scenes of
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  Speaker 2: her while the other women were filming in Bluestone Manor.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, so- She thinks she remembers that she was not
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  Speaker 1: paid for that, but she was because she still was
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  Speaker 1: in the episode.
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  Speaker 2: And here's another thing I thought.
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  Speaker 3: Because she's imagined it.
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  Speaker 2: So Bluestone Manor, what was it? One, maybe two episodes
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  Speaker 2: at the most? In her claiming she lost hundreds of
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  Speaker 2: thousands of dollars. I'm all, sweetie.
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  Speaker 1: You weren't making that much money. Don't think that that
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  Speaker 1: didn't get past me.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, because you missed an episode, you lost hundreds
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  Speaker 2: of thousands of dollars.
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  Speaker 1: Bullshit.
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  Speaker 2: Bullshit. No.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think that's the case.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So Sonia says Jarenda needs to stay away from
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  Speaker 2: the alcohol because who gets drunker than Jarenda and gets obnoxious?
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, that would be you, Sonia.
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  Speaker 3: She's a character, this one.
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  Speaker 2: There's nothing worse though. Somebody that's sober. And now all
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  Speaker 2: of a sudden they're the sober police.
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  Speaker 3: Do you know what, um, do you know what they
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  Speaker 3: call it?
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  Speaker 1: My friends used to call it the reformed whore, the
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  Speaker 1: whore that's like all of a sudden finds God. And
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  Speaker 1: she's like, you're fucking whore. You sleep with everybody.
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  Speaker 3: Like, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: It's like, you look down at the people that do.
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  Speaker 3: What you used to do.
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  Speaker 2: So she's a reformed drunk.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that she's reformed.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's the question. That's the million-dollar question because I
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  Speaker 2: don't think the cast is believing that she's not drinking.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not believing that. I'm not so sure. But
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  Speaker 1: who am I to say? I haven't seen her drink
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  Speaker 1: a drink yet.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, didn't Sonia and Luann, weren't they the two that
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  Speaker 2: did Crappy Lake together?
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: And now all of a sudden they haven't spoken in
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  Speaker 2: a few years? Yes.
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  Speaker 3: I thought they were great together on Crappy Lake.
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  Speaker 2: You know what, by the way? I think they should
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  Speaker 2: do more of that.
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  Speaker 3: The Crappy Lake? Yes. Everyone loved it. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: what happened.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, she said that she only comes around, Sonya
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  Speaker 2: only comes around when they're filming. So she's like one
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  Speaker 2: of those cast members that, and it happens all the time,
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  Speaker 2: but I just thought that they were better friends. Like
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  Speaker 2: there's cast members I have that I don't talk to
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  Speaker 2: when we're off season.
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  Speaker 3: We see each other enough, Doreen.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't mean you're not a real friend
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  Speaker 1: because you don't see them on the time that you're off.
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  Speaker 1: You could still talk. You could still be there if
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  Speaker 1: they needed you. There's, but like Tamara, you haven't been
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  Speaker 1: home in four days. You've been driving from.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't been home in a week.
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  Speaker 3: In a week.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: You haven't been home in a week. Our, our lives
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  Speaker 3: are very busy.
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  Speaker 1: There's no lunching.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 3: I know.
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  Speaker 2: Here's the thing. I have two people to lunch with
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  Speaker 2: this week. I have a lot of people that have
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  Speaker 2: reached out to me that have been estranged from their
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  Speaker 2: daughter or son, and they want to talk. And I
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  Speaker 2: have a neighbor that I just reached out to that
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  Speaker 2: left a note in my mailbox about it.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, that was very nice.
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  Speaker 2: And she's my priority right now, too. I just texted
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  Speaker 2: her this morning. I want to meet with her, even
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  Speaker 2: if we meet at the park. Very upset, very heartbroken.
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  Speaker 2: Over her situation? Yeah, yeah. And so there's always something going.
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  Speaker 2: And Eddie will say, on the way home from Big Bear,
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  Speaker 2: what do you have to do when we get home?
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  Speaker 2: And I said, I will say, oh, not much. And
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  Speaker 2: then it takes up my whole day.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: It's like I got two shows to watch. I got
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  Speaker 2: to take notes on both shows. I got 10 cameos
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  Speaker 2: to do.
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  Speaker 1: I have this to do, that to do.
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  Speaker 2: And then before I know it, it's like 9 o'clock
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  Speaker 2: at night.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 3: It's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: It's hard to get away.
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  Speaker 3: Then I'm not going.
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  Speaker 2: That's how it's been for me. And I've been so busy.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't been in a week.
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: So I told Eddie, I go, I am going to
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: the gym today. If it kills me, I will go
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: at eight o'clock tonight. If I have to, this is
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: not like me. I don't either. If I don't go
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: at eight in the morning, I'm not, usually I'm not going.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: I'm not going.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: So, yeah. So that's been the case for me. Life
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: is crazy. You don't get anything done.
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: And then And the truth is, you know, I.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: Feel like for some reason there's a lot of wasted
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: time scrolling sometimes.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: Oh, for sure.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: And I need to stop that. And there's actually a
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: saint you could pray to for help with that.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: Send me, send me out so I can see.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: He's the youngest saint. He was just canonized recently and
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: he was the saint for social media. And I'm going
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: to reach out to him. Wow.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: Wow. Okay. Well, another thing is, back to Sonia not
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: talking to the girls when they're not filming. Now, it's
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: a little bit different situation because they've been off the
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: air for a while. But in my situation, and probably
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: your situation, it's overstimulating the amount of time that we
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: have to spend with these girls. Now, you might have
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: a best friend, and at times she might bug the
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: shit out of you. Other times, you know, whatever. You
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: don't have to see her every single day. For three
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: months out of the.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Year, You're together and talking and traveling the world every
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: single day.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: Sometimes more than three months.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: And off season, I'm like, get the fuck away from me.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: I'm good. Just leave me alone. Catch you next year.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: The truth is I do. We do.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: We have a nice group and we do spend time
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: out and we do do a lot together, but it's
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: not something I need to do.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: A lot of people want the picture, the.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: This, the, that we have about that. Like, like, like, um,
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: like Sonia says, we cry together. We laugh together. We
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: were there for each other. We fight with each other.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: We do a lot of things together that we don't
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: have to prove. And I feel like there's no, we
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: don't have to prove anything. Yeah.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Well, Jarenda, Kelly, and Luann meet for lunch. And Luann
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: tells the ladies that Sonia is now sober, but Jarenda,
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: she's not buying it. And I have to give Jarenda
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: credit because when she is around Sonia, you can tell
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: Jarenda is biting her tongue. Like when they leave, when
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: they're at lunch and they leave. So Luann brings up
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: how she attended Sonia's show, Incognito. We see a picture
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: of her in a blonde wig. She had sunglasses on.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: And she claims that, you know, Sonya didn't want her there.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: So she's like, screw that. I want it.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: I think she really went there.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Let's face it. She went there to see what she's
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: saying about her.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: You think so?
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah. She didn't want to see the show that bad.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: She wanted to see what was going on over there.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: How would you feel if somebody said on stage in
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: front of more than a hundred people, you're unfuckable?
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: Oh, I'd be really upset. Like really, really upset.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's mean on so many levels. Like, what
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: are you saying? I'm ugly. I'm not desirable. I'm gross.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Nobody wants to fuck me.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: It is a hurtful thing to say. Is that what
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: Dorinda meant by saying?
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: It's probably the worst thing you can say because you're
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: basically saying everything about you is gross.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: And that's not true. Dorinda's a beautiful woman.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: She's got a great body.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: She has a great body. Those legs.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: I'm sure a lot of guys want those legs wrapped
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: around her.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: Oh, for sure.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: So then Sonia arrives late for lunch and Dorinda and
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: Luann leave soon after. I think as soon as she
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: started talking, they're like, we're out of here. Like, I
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: can't put up with this.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: You know what? This is on the heels of them,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: of Dorinda finding out she said she was unfuckable. Maybe
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: she knew it before, but like The wound gets cut
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: open again. And then here Sonia walks in and they're like,
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: let me leave before this gets ugly.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: Yes. But I will say this is where you can
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: separate a real reality star from maybe a newbie. She
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: knew to hold on to that information. She wasn't just
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: going to go after her at that moment, at that lunch.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: She was going to let it brew for a while
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: before she brings it up.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: That's a talent.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: That's talent. That's reality talent.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: Patience is a virtue.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's timing. It's all in the timing.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: Let me tell you, no one's better at that than me.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Timing?
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: No one.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: I can hold something in. Well, my dad always said,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: fuck them with a smile.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Your parents gave you so many great.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: Thank you, but it's so true.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: The advice they gave you is just.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: But like, that's how they spoke to me when I
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: was five.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: There's my mom. Something was wrong. Mom says, ah, go
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: fuck them.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: They can go fuck off.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: That would be my mom's advice.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: The fucking assholes.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: I love your mom.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: She's great. Luann reminds the ladies of her yacht party
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: to which she's bringing, of course, no other than Harry Dubin. Wow.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: Was that a, hmm.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: You think that wasn't to stick it to Sonia at all, right?
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: I think they are truly friends.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's kind of an iconic moment. I mean,
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: he was a big part of Bravo, even though I
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: think just one person mentioned Bravo. I think it was Dorinda.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: They're not talking about Bravo, but they are talking about
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: things that happened. However, they're probably not allowed to get
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: flashbacks because it's a different network. They have to. It's
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: no longer under NBC umbrella, is it?
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no. But they have to. talk about
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: past Bravo because that's their lives.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Yes, they have to.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: That's what made them be on this show.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: But do you think it would be their possibility that
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: they are not talking about Bravo the entire time?
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but maybe Bravo made it some type
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: of deal now because I know Bravo wasn't happy. I
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: don't know if Bravo was happy about it. I don't
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: know for sure. I just assumed they weren't, but they're
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: airing it.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure they paid them big money for that
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: advertising spot.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Well, then they're probably giving them the flashbacks.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Bravo's like, really? You want to advertise? Okay. It's going
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: to be $ 50 million. You know what I mean? I
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: doubt it's that much. And they're going to do it.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: That's advertising money.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: Everything has a price.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So then Sonia says she hasn't had a drink,
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: but the only thing tricky about being sober is when
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: you have sex with someone new.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: And this is what I love about.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: Women who've lived.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: What does Ramona say to her? Then don't sleep with
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: them so fast. That wit, even though it was something
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: simple and it was just like a quick, but that
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: wit and that answer comes quick and I like it.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: I know. So then before Sonia arrives at the yacht party-
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Harry tells Luann, Jarenda, and Ramona that he sees her
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: at table 26 every night.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: Every night? Is it every night?
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but Harry's no spring chicken.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: How are these.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Elderly people out at bars every night?
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: I think they're living a better life in Palm Beach.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: I should start looking into this because I've been guilted into...
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Staying in New Jersey for the rest of my life
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: in case, God forbid, my kids need me.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: From your mom, maybe? Or your kids?
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: But Palm Beach seems like the way to go.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, I always think about, remember that movie, What
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: About Mary? Yeah.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: With the old lady in there. And when I think
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: of like Palm Beach or Boca or whatever, I always
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: think of women that look like that.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: The highest rate.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Of STDs is in old senior homes.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: You do know that.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: I do know that. I warned my mom about that
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: when I put her in a senior apartment building one time.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: And what about the like the swinger? Hold on.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Variety just broke the news that Golden Life will be
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: streaming on Hulu, not Peacock, starting in November. Wow.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: Everyone's fighting over it.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Jeez.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: It's nice to be wanted, huh?
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So is Hulu and E like in the same?
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: I don't know, but Hulu's international.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Hulu's under Disney. Huh? That's interesting.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: It is, which means it has a much bigger base
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: for people to watch. Audience, yeah. Yeah.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Well, at least we know when we're, who knows, it
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: might be next year for me if they fire me.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: I was going to say when we're hitting 70, we
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: can go to E.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: We could go to E, exactly. Or Hulu.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: They could take us.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Before Sonia arrives at the yacht party, Harry tells Luann, Dorinda,
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: and Ramona that he sees Sonia at table 26 every
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: single night drinking.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: He said the word drinking. I mean, I watched it.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: I don't remember hearing him say that.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: I don't remember. Well.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: But the girls said, oh, she's drinking.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: She's at table. She's not drinking.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: So maybe it was the girls that said she was drinking.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: That's what I think it was more like.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yep. Harry and Sonia had a love affair 30
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: years ago.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: And he cheated.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: And Luann is now trying to hook them back together. Like,
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: why would you want to hook? This guy is a player.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: He's rich because she's being a good friend.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: I don't care. He still has saggy balls.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: He's rich.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Well, Sonia's not in the best position right now. So
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: her friend is saying it was 30 years ago. He's
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: an eligible bachelor. He's down to a hundred grand a
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: month off his whatever.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Inheritance.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: Inheritance. He's not an ugly man.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: But then Sonya's like, I can get naked in front
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: of Harry because he's got a belly and he's going bald.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: She feels good about herself. She feels good about herself.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: I think, honestly, I think that if there is a
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: chance for her and Harry to be together, he's a player, right?
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: Whatever.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: I kind of felt like Luann was, her intention behind
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: that was to have somebody watch over Sonya. or to
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: be with someone, not that Harry would be doing it.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: She's worried. She's worried about Sonia.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: She's worried about her. I did see that.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: And I feel like, I don't know that Harry would
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: be the guy to watch over her, but maybe, you know,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: I just feel like her intentions, Luann's intentions weren't in
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: a bad way.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's a recycled dick. He's dated Sonia, Luann,
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: made out with Ramona. He was married to Aviva.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: Where's the suitors, though? Tamara, let's not get picky.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: He's not the only guy in Florida. I don't know
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: about the male ratio to women in Florida right now.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: But I feel like.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Listen, I think a lot of people need help here.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: I think there's a lot going on.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So, Sonya arrives in a swimsuit and a cover-up
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: while everyone else is in a cocktail. In her defense,
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: Kelly was... telling her she was going to wear a
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: swimsuit and this is a party at 5 p.m so
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: i think after kelly figured out what time it was
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: at he she's like you know i'm not wearing a
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: swimsuit by the way a yacht party is not you're
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: not really swimming.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: At this point i mean they're lucky that sonia's showing
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: up with clothes on period let's not let's not complain.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah But I'm like, if you just like, remember on
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: Ultimate Girls Trip, this past one, they, the first episode,
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: they all go on a yacht that probably wasn't even,
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: I think it was docked the entire time. But they
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: were not all like, like, Teresa had a bathing suit on.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: Vicky was dressed like she was going to the office.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Lisa Barlow had a pair of jeans with a jacket.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: And Kyle had, I'm like, how do you dress when
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: you go to a yacht party? I don't go to
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: yacht parties.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: I would wear, I, you're not going to see me
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: in a bathing suit. So that's out and it's easy
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: for me, but I would bring a nice little shrug,
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: a nice little sweater gets chilly on a boat and
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: a nice flowy dress. And you know, you don't usually,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: you aren't usually allowed to bring your shoes on the yacht.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's terrible for short girls.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Terrible. Terrible. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I would wear that.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: That's what I would wear. I've been on a yacht party.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: I've been on, what did I wear? Oh, I wore
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: a beautiful dress. What last time we filmed on a yacht,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: I got it at Marshall's. I think it's on my
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Depop now. It might've sold. And it was like a
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: very beautiful Sophia Loren off the shoulder dress.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Cute. That sounds appropriate.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: That or like a flowy pants outfit with matching.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So Sonia and Luann talk about how Sonia should
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: be with Harry. And that's when Sonia says to her,
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: I think he cheated on me with you. And then
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: Luann's like, but you're the one who introduced me to Harry.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Well, if you, so she goes, oh yeah, that's right.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: And then she was okay with it.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: Unbelievable. I could watch it all day. I'm sorry. I
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: can't turn away.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: You know what comes after me saying that. It's like
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: a bad car wreck.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: But you know who can't watch it is Dorinda.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Dorinda has no time for this.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: She's like, I have no patience for Sonia anymore. She's
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: getting on my last fucking nerve.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: Well, if you'd say that somebody's unfuckable, that is, that stings.
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: We, you know, as older women, things hurt. We need
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: to get.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Dorinda on the pod.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: To see how she feels about that.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: It cuts deep.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: It does. It cuts deep because we're already insecure. Aging
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: for women isn't easy. And she actually, Dorinda speaks so well.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: I could listen to Dorinda. I've always looked up to
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: how she's able to articulate herself and how she does things.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: She always has such good advice. She's got amazing advice.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: I always ask her for advice. Yeah, I love her
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: sayings and everything. So does her daughter.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: Her daughter's awesome. In Harvard.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: I know. When I got fired, I think, Jarenda, I
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: think that's when their show ended.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: Maybe.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: I can't remember. And so we would talk on the phone.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: And sometimes Hannah would get on the phone and give advice. Because,
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: you know, we were pretty devastated. We had been on
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: TV for so many years. And all of a sudden,
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: it's like, bye. See you later.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not an easy thing. Everyone's day comes. Yeah.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: And not everybody gets asked back, as you did, thank God. Right.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: But how long were you off for?
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: But I also filmed Ultimate Girls Trip. And then right
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: after that, I filmed Traitors.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: So you were busy. I had a year of nothing.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: But it's also the year of the pandemic.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: Doesn't count.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: So it's probably like God was looking after me going,
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: you know what? You just stay home right now until
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: the pandemic's over. Yeah.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: And then you won't have any time to yourself.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: But yeah, so... You know what made me sad is
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Dorinda saying she isn't interested in dating.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: Because I don't know that I totally believe that. I
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: think if she found somebody that she really liked, that
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: she would want to settle down.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: It's been a while. What was that one guy's name
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: that she was with for a while that had like
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: a dry cleaners or something like that?
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: John.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: John.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: John. That's like the first long-time relationship, I think, publicly
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: that we know about.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: Dorinda's lived a lot of lives.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: She's been through a lot. She misses Richard terribly.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: But I feel like somebody could come along and mend
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: that hurt. But it hasn't happened for her yet. I
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: hope it does.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: I hope it does, too.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: Soon.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: So Sonia brings up the Bluestone Manor to Dorinda. And
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: how she lost hundreds of thousands of dollars, which is
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: complete fucking bullshit because she doesn't make that much per episode.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Can somebody tell me how many episodes Bluestone Manor was?
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Maybe two? And she said it took, I mean, but
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: in her mind, she believes that.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: But she didn't miss any money. You were still in
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: the episodes. You just weren't on the trip. You don't
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: get docked because you're not on a trip. Whatever episodes
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: you're in, you get your episodic rate.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: I honestly, I don't know.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: I just don't, I don't know what goes on in
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: her mind. I think it would be hard for anyone
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: to really understand what goes on in Sonia's mind.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: It was two episodes.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: She's saying that You know, she was down and out.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: She needed the money at the time. If she makes
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: $ 100, 000 in an episode, that's $ 200, 000. Let's just say that's
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: what she's alluding to.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not buying that.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: But also she was on the episode. So she got paid.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: In her mind, she didn't.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: So if she believes it, it happened, right?
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: That's what exactly.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Luann gives a speech thanking her friend Kimberly for hosting them.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: As the speech ends, Sonia screams, we always have a
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: great time and smashes her hand down, breaking a wine glass,
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: almost falling over. If this is Sonia sober, I can't
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: imagine what she's like drunk nowadays.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like there's a lot going on. I
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: think that You know, if the girls are worried for her,
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: they're seeing more than we're seeing. But we're going to
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: get to the place where I'm going to talk, the
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: scene that I'm going to talk and say more. I
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: don't want to talk before then.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: Luann's getting ready with her gaze. And Roger says Ramona
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: introduced herself to him for the 100th time. This is
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: not unusual for Ramona.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: That is Ramona. It's not personal. I took it very
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: personal when I first met Ramona. I was very offended
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: by it. Do you know who else is like that? Who? Vicky. Yeah, no,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: I see the resemblance.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: She has met my friend Pam so many times.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Pam, the Pam I met?
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: I love Pam.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: And every single time she'll go, wait, what's her name?
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, nice to meet you. Or, oh, I've never
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: met you before. And she just looks at me and
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: she goes, yeah, you have. Like, I can't tell you
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: how many times we've actually filmed together.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: But that's just Ramona.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: That's how she is.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: That's Ramona. And if you don't know her, it's very offensive.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: It's very kind of like degrading. It makes you feel
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: like less than.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, can I say I've never done that before?
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: I've done it before. I've met somebody, didn't remember and
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: met him again. So there's one thing I've learned in
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: this industry. I mean, we meet so many people all
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: the time. If somebody comes in with somebody I know,
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: I now don't go, oh, nice to meet you. Because
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, shit, have I met?
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: No, you talked to them for a while.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: Have I met.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: Shannon's friend before? Have I met so-and-so's friend before?
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: You talk to them for a while until you figure
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: it out.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Dorinda and Luann meet for lunch and discuss
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: Sonia and her lying. They say maybe her financial struggles
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: have contributed to her delusion and they don't feel as
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: close to her.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: See, I don't think she's lying. I think it's more
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: that she believes these things happened.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: I've had this conversation with somebody before. I'm like, that
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: girl's a liar. And they said to me, but she
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: believes what she's saying. And I said, so if you
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: believe what you're saying, is that not a lie?
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: For me, no, it's not an intentional lie. I don't
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: believe it is.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: You just think they don't remember things correctly?
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: I guess. I don't know.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: A lie is a lie is a lie. I know
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: you have a very detailed mind, Tamara.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: I do?
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: Don't give me that much credit.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm just saying like you're very, I don't know
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: what the word is, but it's like very structured when
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: you're saying something, right?
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: Not everybody speaks like that.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: So somebody like you, because I've had this problem because
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: I am not a a very detailed structured person when
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: I'm repeating something can accuse you. You can think that
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: the person that's speaking to you because they are not
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: so detailed in that is lying or because they see
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: something different. That's what I think. Cause I've dealt with
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: people who I, like I, I remember someone would be
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: like that with me and I'd be like, you should
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: have been a surgeon because you're so detailed.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: Like everything has.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: To be just right. And not everybody is different. Like,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: I guess I'm, I'm type C. Your type A. Oh.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: So you know what's sad? They talk about Sonia's financial struggles.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: And this is a woman. She's married to a Morgan.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: Very wealthy family. And all the stuff she had and
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: all the stuff she lost, it's just so sad. Is
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: it just because she just mismanaged her money and just
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: spent everything she had? And that's the problem with people
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: that don't work for their money, but get their money
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: other ways, they have no value of the dollar.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: Well, she also is ignorant to how to handle it. Yeah.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: Which a lot of people are. And that was like
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: so much money. She didn't have someone, a mentor or
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: somebody watching over her on what to do with that money.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And she had no one.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Dorinda says so.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: You know how she lost a lot of money. She
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: invested with Sylvester Stallone or something like that.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: Did you not know that?
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: I didn't know that.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: Is there a book that she wrote about that? She
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: didn't want to talk about it.
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: It came up.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: She's very, very- For a movie or something? So I
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: am very scared to invest because I did something and
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: lost $ 400, 000.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: I would die.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: So for the longest time, I would not and now
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: eddie does it i don't want to hear about it
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: i don't want to see it just show me you
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: know how much is made not how much is lost.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: I don't like losing money.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: But you have Eddie now to help you. He's good
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: at it. He's knowledgeable. Yeah.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: He made a lot of money last year doing that.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: So I'm like, okay, just don't tell me with stock
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: market stuff. Yeah, it's scary. It's very scary. Today's a
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: horrible day. Lost 50,000. I don't like that at all.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: But did you notice they were doing joint confessionals? Kind
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: of like that.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: I did, but hold on.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: There's an explanation to a lot of the money people
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: don't realize. Through her company, Sonya Productions, she agreed to
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: help finance a movie called Fast Flash to Bang Time,
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: which was supposed to star John Travolta. Reports and court
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: records say the deal contemplated roughly $ 18 million in financing.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: The movie ultimately fell apart, and the production distribution company,
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: Hannibal Productions, and Sonia and her company, a jury ruled
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: against them in 2009 and awarded Hannibal about $ 6. 8 million
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: plus $ 250, 000 in punitive damages against Sonia personally. The judgment
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: was a major reason she filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: in 2010. I didn't know that. Yes. When she listed
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: approximately $ 19. 8 million in liabilities in and $ 13. 5 million in assets.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: The whole thing in a nutshell is apparently Sonya got
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: involved with producing a movie, promised a bunch of money
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: to produce it, and didn't have the money she said,
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: so got sued for what she had, which was roughly
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: about $ 6.
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: 8 million.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: So they actually went to court over this?
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: Yes, and she lost. Oh, shit.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: Was that the downfall then?
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: I feel like it was her downfall.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: What year was that?
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: 2010.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: That makes sense. Reckless.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: So she's been trying to come back from that forever.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: It's hard to come back from losing that kind of money.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: And that's when she joined Housewives. You never come back
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: from that if you didn't have it in the first place. Yeah. Yeah.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: Now, this kind of broke my heart. Dorinda says Sonia
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: always had her looks and charisma to rely on, and
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: they show pictures of her when she was younger. Beautiful.
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: Beautiful.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: And as we get older, it becomes harder to use
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: that as her saver.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: See what I mean about Dorinda? See what I mean
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: about the wise words of women who have lived a life?
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: Wise.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: This is what I want to see. This is what
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: I want to watch. This is what I want to hear.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: I can watch a whole show for that one statement alone. Yes.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Dorinda, for your services.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: But, and you know, she even said something for me,
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: very nice about Sonia after Sonia said she was unfuckable.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: She said she's beautiful and she always relied on her
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: beauty for living. And for all of us, it gets
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: harder for that.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: For sure. I mean, as we age, we.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: Moral of the story, don't depend on your looks to
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: get by in life.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: Couldn't have said better myself. Mm-hmm. It's true. Amen. I mean,
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: it only gets you so far. Like, you know, I
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: was telling Sophia, we were talking about it, and we
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: were talking about modeling and this and that and different careers.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: And I said, okay, girls can be models. Beautiful girls
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: can be models. But it's the ones that are smart
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: that become supermodels and do the things. Like, talk about
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: the Kardashians all you want. Kim Kardashian's a smart girl.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: She's a smart girl. She might come off like, oh,
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: people say, oh, she's not that smart and everything. But
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: you don't get to that being dumb.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: She has a work ethic bar none. So does Paris Hilton.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: Has two phones on her at all time, working like
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: she's not a Hilton, working like she's broke.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: Those girls have never stopped working.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian used to go into her father's office. Show
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: them a picture of a bag, a Chanel bag online.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: It was $ 4, 000. Make them buy it so she could
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: resell it for more.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: Resell it. Yeah.
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: She started out cleaning Paris Hilton's closets.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: So she's very- Give it to her.
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: Say what you want. I don't think she's stupid. My
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: mom actually said- And they seem to be very nice.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: I was with my mom a couple of days ago.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: We were at her house and I had to do
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: the podcast in her bedroom, our spare bedroom. And then
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: she said, God, you just are nonstop. You're going all
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: the time. She goes, I hate when people say, oh,
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: she makes easy money. She just films. And she goes,
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: people don't really realize what you girls actually go through.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: It's never ending.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Sonia and Kelly take reformer Pilates together. And Kelly tells Sonia,
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: she saw Harry on her way there. And he was
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: with a girl.
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: I mean, shocker.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: And I'm sure the girl was like 18.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: But wait, but so Sonia gets pissed off.
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: Like they've been dating for 30 years.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: It's like, Sonia, I would get less mad if I
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: heard Paul was with somebody. Calm down.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but he just invited her to dinner. So I
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: So what?
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: I know. I mean, they're not a girl.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but not before she tells Kelly that she has
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: a huge camel toe.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: I know. Sonia thinks the girls are ganging up on her.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: Do you?
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of bad feelings.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I wouldn't say they're ganging up on
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: her unsolicited.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: Well, why wouldn't Sonya go up to them and say, listen,
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: I was on stage. I know I said some things.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: I regret them. I'm sorry.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: Does she remember saying it?
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: She knows.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: She's the one that brought it up originally. Oh, I
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: said Dorinda was unfuckable. Well, that's not nice. No.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: And I really think that Dorinda's not over it.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: No, of course she's not. I don't, I don't think
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: it was that long ago.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of things you could say to me,
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: but that one at this point right now in the moment,
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: the way I feel about myself, the way I'm looking,
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: you know, in the mirror, like that would hit, hit home.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: And I think she hit Dorinda home. Yeah.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: And then Kelly was the voice of reason at that
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: moment and was telling her like, yeah, you need to
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: let it go. You need to let it go. And
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: she's like, I want to let it go. I want
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: to move past it. Well, then go and apologize.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: I feel like Sonia does not have a filter. And
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: she says it herself. She goes, at this age, I
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: have earned the right to not have a filter.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: Well, all older people don't have filters.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: It used to be back in the day, old people
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: used to not say goodbye and hang up. back when
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: we had phones that were attached to the wall. And
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: instead of saying goodbye, it's click. And they would, and people,
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: you know, it would be so rude. And they'd be like, no,
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: they are in the right. If they don't want to
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: say goodbye, they can hang up on you.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about Michael, Luann's boyfriend.
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: He's cute.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: So cute.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: And very nice.
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: I've met him several times.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: Is he good looking?
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's very good looking.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: Looks very tall because Luann's tall.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: She loves him.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: They've been together two years.
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: She can't even smell bacon.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: She's in love. Yep.
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: So he arrives to the house with Flowers. She said
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: she hadn't seen him in a few weeks, so she
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: was excited to see him.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: I hope he doesn't hurt her.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: They've been together two years, but then there's some talk
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: coming up that he is married.
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: Oh, it's coming up.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but so, I mean, if he's not with the wife, clearly,
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: so what? He's not divorced. He's not hiding Luann. He's
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: on a damn ass TV show with her.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: Same thing with Paul.
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: Paul was separated for many, many years.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I know.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: I know. But you know how they always make it
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: so scandalous when they talk about it. Mm-hmm.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: Well, they are.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: Exclusive with each other. Although we did, didn't we see
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: Luann flirting a lot on Ultimate Girls Trip?
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: Did we? With who?
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: I felt like we did. Oh, maybe I'm wrong.
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: Then he should get divorced.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: So Ramona is hosting an exclusive trunk show and kicks
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: out a few women for crashing because she had selected
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: the attendees.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: The balls of her. Oh my God. The woman's face
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: was so red.
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: She was like humiliated. Up until this scene right here,
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: I thought, oh, wow, Ramona's really changed and she's really
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: calmed down. I was dying. No, you have to leave.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: This is a private event. You are not invited. You
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: need to go now. Now, did you see the cameras
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: right there? And the woman's like.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: Is like Kathy here or something? She said, and Ramona's like,
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. I didn't invite you.
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: Special people. In fact, you have to leave.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: I have never been spoken to like that in my
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: fucking life.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: But the woman wouldn't leave.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: She was like in shock. She didn't know what to do.
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: What is she supposed to run away?
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: No one knows how to handle that situation.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: We all have seen people walk into filming. They see
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: the cameras. They know what's going on. There's a sign
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: on the door that was pointed to. They see it.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: They know what they're doing. But to actually come out,
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: usually I don't know, a producer or something won't let
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: them in or say, you have to go. But Ramona,
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: I think she did it multiple times.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know how to do that. I would be
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: making room for the people.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't, unless the woman gets right in the middle,
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: and then I would just be like, hey, somebody get
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: her out. Make this stop. It's like the same as
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: you're filming in a group scene, and somebody walks up
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: to your table and just starts filming you. And you're like,
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: this is stuff that can- No, that's different too. They
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: can be leaked. That can be leaked. This is private stuff.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: This woman in her Dolce & Gabbana flowered outfit did
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: not look like she's much- older, not much older. She's
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: clearly not there to film. I just didn't see it.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: I didn't look at that woman like she was there
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: as an opportunist.
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, it takes a lot of balls, but that Ramona,
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: that is Ramona, 100% Ramona. She's done that forever. You're
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: not invited. Did you see the sign on the wall?
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: Just get out.
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: I would die. I would die. And you know what?
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know too many people in New Jersey that
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: would do that unless the person was obnoxious. Then we
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: take them by their neck and throw them out the door.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: But to a woman just coming in looking for her friend,
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know that anybody on my cast would do that.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I probably would not do that. Meanwhile, Dorinda and
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: Luann arrive an hour and 16 minutes late. Dorinda is
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: so annoyed with Luann getting ready and just not, that
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: would bother me big time.
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: It would bother you.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: I would have left.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: It would bother me too. Like she went, see, that's why.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: No offense to anybody.
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: I love you all.
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: I show up myself and I lead by myself. I
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: don't need to walk in with someone. I would rather
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: be in control of my own lateness, my own earliness.
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: And that's it. I don't need. Thank you.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: I'm good.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So Ramona begins to give a toast at her
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: event when Sonia interrupts her calling her bossy.
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: Is she looking for attention?
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: Clearly. Clearly. It was just... Then Jarenda tries on dresses.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: She's like, you guys need to go shop.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: Go shop.
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: So tries on this yellow dress and Sonia asked her
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: if it comes in another color because that's not doing
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: it for you. It's not good. And you need a
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: suntan and it doesn't really fit. And it's not your color.
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: It's like.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: I don't mind that. I don't mind that.
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: No, I want to be told.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: And you could tell me however you want, because I'm
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: not the most soft spoken person. So yeah, I would
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: appreciate that. She, and then she's like, you know, she
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: justified it by saying everybody tiptoes around Dorinda instead of
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: just being honest and letting her know. It didn't, I
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: didn't think it looked good on her. She didn't have
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: to see either. Someone's opinion matters or doesn't to you.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: So I kind of like, want you to tell me,
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: like your mom would tell you that way.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: My mom? No, my mom would lie to my face. Yeah,
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: that looks great. And then same thing she did with
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: my hair when I was letting it grow out. She's like, oh,
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: your hair is darker. Yeah, I love it. And then
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: I lightened it a little bit. She goes, oh, thank
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: God you lightened it. It looked like shit.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: I thought your mom was more honest with you. My
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: mom just wouldn't even pay attention. I could walk in
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: with two different shoes on and not, and you know,
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: my high school scrunchie and my mother wouldn't be like,
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: Maybe you should do something. I always wanted the mother
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: that would say, can you go fix yourself? That's who
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: I am to my kids.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: I know, but nowadays, I could say that to Sophia,
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: but if I said that to Spencer, he'd be so offended. Why?
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: What's wrong? But Sophia would be just like, okay, whatever.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: I guess Sophia's used to you.
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, different kids.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: That means used to me giving her a hard time
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: about her appearance, but Frankie would be upset.
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: You're right. You're right.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: So Ramona invites the ladies to dinner, telling them they
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: can bring one friend each. Luann, she wants to bring her,
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: who she calls, Ramona calls her workers.
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: Nope.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: Wrong. Would you have done that?
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: No.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't have.
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: No, you don't do that.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: I'm not big on bringing other people to dinner. where I,
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: you know, especially it was more of an intimate dinner.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: And she did say you could bring one friend, which
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: was nice enough that she could bring.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: And she did say it was a dinner and Luann,
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: you know, she, she does.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: She was mad. Yeah. She was mad.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: She decides to bring her friends slash workers anyways. And
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: then she claims, well, you never said it was a dinner.
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: And she's like, yes, she did. Yes, she did. So,
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: But then how about Ramona, how she reacts to them,
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: calling them, you're Luann's employees.
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: That's not nice.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: And Luann was red. She was seeing red.
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: She was mad.
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: So next question. Do you think Sonia saw Dorinda and
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: Luann at the trunk show and just decided to ignore them?
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: Because she's claiming, oh, I didn't even see them.
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: She saw them.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: She saw them.
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: Make no mistake. I've spent a lot of time with Sonia.
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: I like Sonia very much.
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: She's no dummy.
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: She is no dummy. And nothing gets past her. She
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: might also think things happened that didn't, but she also
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: doesn't miss a trick. Yeah.
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: And then we see Sonia Ramona dance with Michael while
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: yelling at Luann to watch. Mm-hmm. I didn't like this.
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: Luann says Michael's getting sexually harassed and tells Michael, I'm
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: your queen. Don't forget.
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: That guy didn't ask to get sexually harassed. That was
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: up to Luann to say, okay, it's time to go.
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: But you also saw him like, I mean, his shirt's
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: pulled up. They're rubbing on his stomach.
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: He don't know what to do.
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: Mostly Sonia. And then he's like kind of like trying
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: to inch away from them until Luann pulls him out
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: of there.
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: And then he gets in trouble by Luann.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: The poor guy didn't have a chance.
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: Was she yelling at him?
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: No, no. She was just mad. And I think that
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: it was her demeanor speaking to him that way.
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: But she put him in that position. She knows Luann.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: What's going on. You could foresee. You know Sonia long enough.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: You know Ramona long enough. You know what's going to
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: happen next. You know when someone's going to pop off
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: when you've spent this kind of time with them. You
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: know when they're turning that table of what's going to
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: happen even in a conversation.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: Well, that's it for The Golden Life until next week.
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: It's my thing. It's my jam.
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: Overall, I thought it was pretty good. Let us know
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: what you thought, who you want to see on the.
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: Show. I want to see I want to see Harry
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: Dubin and Sonya get in a fight, a fist fight.
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: I meant interview. Who can we interview? I want to
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: get Dorinda on the pod.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: I want to see Harry Dubin get beat up by Sonya.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: It probably will happen. Thanks, guys, for tuning in to
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: another episode of Two Teas in a Pod.