Latest / Becker’s Healthcare Podcast / Kevin M. Spiegel, President & CEO of HSA Florida Medical Center
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- 0:32Hello, and welcome to the Becker's Hospital Review
- 0:34podcast.
- 0:35My name is Will Riley from r one.
- 0:38With me today is Kevin Spiegel. Kevin is
- 0:41CEO,
- 0:42at HSA Florida Medical Center.
- 0:45Kevin, welcome to the podcast. Will, thank you
- 0:48very much. Really happy to be here and
- 0:50back at Becker's.
- 0:52Good stuff. Kevin,
- 0:53to start us off, tell us a little
- 0:55bit about your role,
- 0:58h HSA Florida Medical Center, and some of
- 1:00the key priorities that you and your team
- 1:02are focused on. Yeah. I mean, first of
- 1:04all,
- 1:05I love a challenge.
- 1:07And I'm at
- 1:10Florida Medical Center now,
- 1:12little over seven months.
- 1:14The hospital was acquired,
- 1:17by HSA through bankruptcy.
- 1:21So the environment
- 1:22and the community
- 1:24had been challenged.
- 1:25One of the things I'm most proud of,
- 1:27things that I've done is really turning around
- 1:30hospitals and serving the community in the most
- 1:33optimal way,
- 1:36which I'm very proud of.
- 1:38This hospital historically is a four fifty bed
- 1:42hospital,
- 1:43acute care tertiary services,
- 1:46specializing
- 1:47in cardiac
- 1:48and
- 1:49stroke,
- 1:50as well as all surgical and medical services.
- 1:54The economic
- 1:56area
- 1:58in in in Lauderdale Lakes is a little
- 2:00challenged.
- 2:01A lot of immigrants,
- 2:03a lot of,
- 2:05underserved
- 2:05and
- 2:07uninsured and underinsured
- 2:09in the community,
- 2:10which makes,
- 2:11you know, providing high level tertiary services even
- 2:15more
- 2:16difficult. But we are committed
- 2:18to serve that community
- 2:20in the most optimal way. And some of
- 2:23those things, I'm so proud of.
- 2:25So what's on your mind as you go
- 2:27into 2026?
- 2:28You've obviously got, a bit of a unique
- 2:30background as well and context around the hospital
- 2:33too that you're trying to deal with. Yeah.
- 2:34I mean, you know,
- 2:37I've been doing this a while,
- 2:40and I've learned one thing that
- 2:43every year brings new and dynamic challenges
- 2:47to the health care industry.
- 2:50And somehow we do get through it, some
- 2:53positive, some negative.
- 2:56But health care in The United States is
- 2:58committed
- 2:59to to to provide services to the uninsured
- 3:03and the underinsured,
- 3:04and and that's one of the things I'm
- 3:05most proud of. Got you. Got you. I'd
- 3:08like to talk a little bit about technology
- 3:10before we get into some of the more
- 3:12financial aspects of of of health care today.
- 3:16Health care's
- 3:18historically moved quite cautiously
- 3:20around new technologies.
- 3:23Is that the same with artificial intelligence technology
- 3:27today,
- 3:27or does does it feel different with with
- 3:30AI to you? Oh,
- 3:32AI is certainly
- 3:34brand
- 3:35new, at least to the health care industry.
- 3:38There are so many advantages
- 3:40like ChatGBT
- 3:41and other platforms.
- 3:44We use a, a scheduling,
- 3:47platform I have in the past
- 3:50that that has a predictability
- 3:53that can populate
- 3:55physicians and nurses schedules,
- 3:58with an AI component.
- 4:00Makes it so much easier. You you know,
- 4:02go back in time.
- 4:04Doctors and nurses would have to sit at
- 4:06the computer for hours and hours and hours
- 4:10just scheduling people. And then when they release
- 4:12the schedule, people don't like it. Now you
- 4:15built in rules and almost let the employees
- 4:18self schedule.
- 4:19So there are certain
- 4:21wonderful,
- 4:22wonderful
- 4:23benefits
- 4:24of AI, especially in healthcare. Because,
- 4:28you know, with all the challenges, we have
- 4:30to be as efficient
- 4:32as possible.
- 4:35In in in health care innovation, you often
- 4:38hear about a couple of different archetypes
- 4:41archetypes,
- 4:42incumbents
- 4:43who are large
- 4:45established health systems payers or legacy vendors who
- 4:48sort of control the data and infrastructure
- 4:51and and have scale.
- 4:53And you hear about insurgents,
- 4:55newer entrants, technology companies, start ups, people seeking
- 5:00to disrupt
- 5:01established models.
- 5:03How do you see
- 5:04the future playing out around this new AI
- 5:08paradigm between those two participants? I I have
- 5:11to tell you, I'm excited
- 5:14about
- 5:15a lot of these new startups that come
- 5:17to the market because if they can actually
- 5:20disrupt
- 5:21some of the older things because
- 5:23truthfully, you you know, how medicine is practiced
- 5:25in The United States, a senior senior physician
- 5:29teaches younger, but then the younger guys have
- 5:32been taught by someone who's been doing this
- 5:34for a long time and some of are
- 5:37those the most current
- 5:39technologies
- 5:41going forward?
- 5:42They are they conservative?
- 5:44Absolutely.
- 5:45Are they proven?
- 5:46Absolutely.
- 5:47But it's not cutting edge.
- 5:50And I think that we're entering into a
- 5:54new
- 5:55dynamic
- 5:57in the health care industry that really embraces
- 6:01the,
- 6:03the new technologies and the new ways of
- 6:06doing things. And if you if we use
- 6:07the word disruptive, yeah, I think it's it's
- 6:10disruptive but in a positive way. Okay. I'm
- 6:14excited.
- 6:15And where for you, where's the big opportunity
- 6:18to do that in your organization? I think
- 6:21it's all over the place. Yeah.
- 6:23I think it's
- 6:25you know, obviously in in in oncology and
- 6:28cancer treatments, you know, we we focus a
- 6:30lot
- 6:31at Florida Medical Center on the cardiology
- 6:34innovations.
- 6:35And I can give you one quick example.
- 6:38You know, we were using
- 6:40multiple catheters
- 6:41to do,
- 6:43cardiac ablations.
- 6:46Today,
- 6:47new catheters, you can use one catheter
- 6:49for
- 6:50a multitude of things, and it's
- 6:53that therefore, it's
- 6:55more cost effective,
- 6:57less time
- 6:58under the fluoroscopy
- 6:59for the patient, and better outcomes.
- 7:02And
- 7:04I'm more excited today than ever that a
- 7:06lot of these new innovations, a lot of
- 7:08what we will see here at Becker's
- 7:10this week,
- 7:12will only bring new innovative
- 7:16technologies.
- 7:17Last year,
- 7:20I had the pleasure of seeing so many
- 7:22new companies
- 7:24from
- 7:25outside of The United States coming to The
- 7:29US and coming with new innovative
- 7:31ideas that are just
- 7:34unbelievable.
- 7:35So, you know, I'm excited to go to
- 7:38the floor to see some of the lectures
- 7:39here
- 7:45health care.
- 7:47As you,
- 7:48think about adopting and using some of these
- 7:50new technologies, whether it's on the clinical or
- 7:53the administrative side of your business,
- 7:56how how are you thinking about governance? And
- 7:59how are you thinking about governance in the
- 8:00c suite, particularly around new technologies like AI
- 8:03that are a bit different perhaps from what
- 8:05what you implemented before?
- 8:07I mean, governance,
- 8:11we are blessed
- 8:13that we have such a,
- 8:16a history. Although we did go through bankruptcy,
- 8:19we still have a medical executive
- 8:23committee, board of directors, community advisory board
- 8:27that is really rooted in the community
- 8:30in a positive way.
- 8:32That, I believe, has given the hospital strength.
- 8:35And, you know, they talk about,
- 8:38have you flown on an airplane that went
- 8:40through bankruptcy?
- 8:41Of course, because most of them in that
- 8:44time period went through. And, you know,
- 8:47a lot of hospitals have closed. You know,
- 8:49one of the things I'm most proud of
- 8:51HSA
- 8:52is they go into communities and save these
- 8:55hospitals
- 8:56from closure
- 8:57and take them to the next and invest
- 9:00money into the local communities they serve.
- 9:04So I'm
- 9:06very
- 9:07excited
- 9:09regarding that governance,
- 9:11that oversight,
- 9:12and the collaboration
- 9:13between,
- 9:15the corporate,
- 9:17the medical staff,
- 9:19and,
- 9:20the community advisory boards.
- 9:22Let's talk a little bit about the,
- 9:24financial,
- 9:26environment.
- 9:27Obviously, we've got quite a dynamic,
- 9:30legislative
- 9:31environment and
- 9:33and potentially an unpredictable one.
- 9:36I'm curious about how that is impacting you
- 9:41and payer payer provider dynamics as well and
- 9:44how those are playing out for you. Yeah.
- 9:47I'm glad you asked that question because,
- 9:49you know, one of the things of of
- 9:52getting through and being a new player in
- 9:55the community, we participate in everything.
- 9:59Some of our neighboring hospitals
- 10:02are not.
- 10:03And I think that's an opportunity for us
- 10:05so those patients can come to us and
- 10:07be in that
- 10:09work.
- 10:10Florida is challenged. A lot of doctors
- 10:12are trying to opt out of Medicaid
- 10:15and Medicare because they're they're just poor payers.
- 10:20So we somehow are, you know, we're like
- 10:23Switzerland. We play with everybody,
- 10:27and we don't, you know, go out in
- 10:29network just to prove a point or to
- 10:32try to increase. We're a low cost,
- 10:35low provider of care financially
- 10:38for the patients and the payers.
- 10:41And who benefits is actually the community. And
- 10:45so I'm I'm very excited about that.
- 10:49And is perhaps the environment that you're in
- 10:51allowing you to
- 10:53create a new
- 10:55dynamic with some of the payers around you?
- 10:57I I do. I I think that we're
- 11:00starting to get,
- 11:02acknowledgment from a lot of the payers in
- 11:04the community about that we are one of
- 11:06the most cost effective alternatives
- 11:08other than very large,
- 11:11very high rates,
- 11:13of some of the
- 11:15large,
- 11:16extremely large academic medical centers
- 11:19in in in the Florida region.
- 11:22How are you seeing,
- 11:24technology play a role in the on the
- 11:26administrative side of of your operation? So we
- 11:29talked a little bit about
- 11:31payer relationships.
- 11:33Obviously, there's more and more automation coming in
- 11:35in terms of how things like claims are
- 11:37processed and,
- 11:39and and that that that whole process. So
- 11:41how is that playing out for you? I
- 11:42think we are gonna have to partner yourself
- 11:44with real proven people that this is their
- 11:46core competency.
- 11:48Hospitals, their core competency is taking care of
- 11:51patients. Mhmm.
- 11:52So, you you know, you we're gonna have
- 11:54to partner
- 11:55with with firms out there that that is
- 11:59their core competency,
- 12:01that they can bring efficiencies
- 12:03and technologies to the table
- 12:05a lot better than if we did it
- 12:07ourselves.
- 12:08Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay.
- 12:11Tell tell us a little bit about the
- 12:12patient experience.
- 12:15What what what what are you what are
- 12:16you focused on from a patient experience perspective
- 12:19at the moment? I I have to tell
- 12:20you that, you you know, we're a,
- 12:24a joint commission accredited
- 12:25stroke program.
- 12:27And one of the things I really like
- 12:29is that, you know, when 911
- 12:31brings the patient there, they're paralyzed half their
- 12:35body,
- 12:36and recognize they call a code stroke, take
- 12:39the patient, bring the patient to the lab,
- 12:41and and actually
- 12:43remove that clot.
- 12:45And you can actually see
- 12:47the patient's brain reperfuse,
- 12:50and they get their mobility
- 12:52back almost immediately. It's remarkable.
- 12:56And to sit and talk to those patients
- 12:59right after and and how happy they are
- 13:03that this stroke was stopped. Sometimes it it's
- 13:06too emotional for them, but others,
- 13:09they see that they and then they end
- 13:11up going home
- 13:12then versus the old days when they had
- 13:14to then go to a nursing home and
- 13:16have someone else take care of them, and
- 13:18they're actually going home on their own two
- 13:21feet.
- 13:22So there has been some remarkable
- 13:25things. You know, then we also find out
- 13:28from the patient what caused that blood clot
- 13:31to go to their brain. Was there some
- 13:34issue with their heart, appendage,
- 13:37issue, or atrial fib, or,
- 13:41or a PFO,
- 13:43in the heart, and that we can actually
- 13:45solve these issues for these patients?
- 13:49And and and technology
- 13:51has,
- 13:52you
- 13:53know, really leapfrogged
- 13:55other things, and but medicine has clearly
- 13:59benefited
- 14:00by
- 14:01AI and new technologies.
- 14:03And and and again, you're gonna see here
- 14:06at Becker's
- 14:07this week a lot of different companies
- 14:10that are coming to The United States to
- 14:13share, but that has
- 14:16positively
- 14:17disrupted
- 14:18the environment. Yeah. So it all comes back
- 14:20to providing
- 14:21great clinical care for the folks in your
- 14:24community.
- 14:25Cost effective care
- 14:27that is
- 14:29absolutely,
- 14:31much better than the way it was. We
- 14:34have to improve. You know, we have to
- 14:36become more efficient.
- 14:38And, you know, I'm I'm more excited in
- 14:42my whole career today than I have been
- 14:45in many years.
- 14:47Fantastic. Kevin, thanks so much for talking to
- 14:49us today. Really appreciate it. Appreciate you very
- 14:51much. You have a great, great conference. Thank
- 14:54you. You too. Thank you. Bye.