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Why Maxx Crosby to the Bucs is Gaining Steam · Hear The Cannons - Tampa Bay Buccaneers Podcast

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[SPEAKER_02]: What's happened to guys, this is Logan Robinson from BucksGameDate.com.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're here live on here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The cannons and we've got a lot to talk about this afternoon.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We've got Max Crosby update.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was Super Bowl week, so we had a handful of interviews and nuggets, reports coming out all around the radar star, pass, Russia, and man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The Buccaneers fans are pushing hard for Crosby and I wouldn't blame them one bit, but we've got some updates there on that end, including two some Mike Evans updates, some scoop from Super Bowl week there with some of the end ciders talking with his agent.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We will depict everything that we can about that and if Mike Evans is going to return for another season or two.
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[SPEAKER_02]: with Tampa Bay and along with two some staff changes as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if you've got any questions or topics, please throw them into the chat.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But Caleb, we just wrapped up the 2025 NFL season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What a ride it was certainly for the buck and years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We know how it went.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was a complete rollercoaster ride.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But you're just initial thoughts on the season overall for the NFL and that's suitable.
1:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, it was a fun start to the season for Taver Bay and then not so fun ending up to the season for the book and ears.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, obviously, you know, they're one of the teams that view of the teams that beat the eventual Super Champion Seattle Seahawk.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I guess if you want to hang your hat on something, that's a little bit, but probably one of the worst Super Poles that I was able to watch my lifetime unfortunately.
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[SPEAKER_01]: than the guys in New England, but it didn't really end up that way, and we'll see if they're able to make it back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Drake showed a lot of promises here, but boring, boring Super Bowl.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought, you know, bad bunnies half time was pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Very lively, very energetic, which was great to see, not really pushing too much in your face one way or another, so he kind of took a different route than in past one, so really cool to see that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Lackless or commercials, not a big fan of all the AI stuff going on, I did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the Budweiser one that I thought was really really well thought out and of course you know Pepsi stealing the Coca-Cola bears was pretty cool too, but
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, a fun NFL season overall.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, hopefully the Buccaneers are able to win the NFC South next year and get back into the playoffs and make a run.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, did you see the commercial of Grunkowski?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't get to see it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I wasn't watching it live, but I guess there was a Grunk commercial and we should probably put an article out on it, but he was not wearing a Patriot jersey in that commercial.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was wearing a Buccaneers
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[SPEAKER_02]: jersey and they're given some love to the box over the patch man and there had been chatter all throughout several week of Tom Brady on following or not following the Patriots and then he's saying that he's not pulling need other things not pulling for the Patriots specifically
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[SPEAKER_02]: There was a lot of drama between the, for the, for the Patriots, all we going into that Super Bowl, but I thought that was pretty interesting when Grock were in that Bucks jersey.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, definitely added to it for sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I mean, everybody's like, oh, wow, Tom's not following them and then Tom posted photo on a story tag in the Patriots, and then he's like, I don't have a dog in the fight and then all of his old 14 mates are like, dude, what are you saying?
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[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, the reasoning behind that has got to be to do with obviously the broadcasting aspect of his job as well as the other aspect of his job as a minority owner, he's probably more so worried about that team than the Patriots, but interesting tidbits that were coming from it, I wouldn't dig too deep into it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean Tom Brady, Tom Brady, but pretty telling that he did really enjoy his time at Tampa Bay still follows them on Instagram.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, we're in his good graces.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, uh, and I think it was, uh, it was more, I just feel like it was more entertaining throughout the week and radio row than it was the actual game and that, uh, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That certainly stinks.
3:51
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's the Hawks team.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like you said, the bucks beat them in Seattle and that offense was absolutely click in the mech and Booka had a huge game there, Baker Mayfield was playing out of his mind.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That team had
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it showed you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It showed you signs like oh my goodness.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this is a top NFCT and this team has a potential and you know Tom Brady named them as his number one team one of those weeks like There was a lot to like there overall and you know you were trying to get Chris got one back in the mix at that time as well
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they started dealing with those offensive injuries and woes happen and then you just saw the defensive collapse as well That we've seen the last two seasons under bulls and that's something that has to be fixed here and one way to fix that Caleb and a phenomenal transition here I must say one way to fix that would be like we see in the chat
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[SPEAKER_02]: bring on the red beard and this is talking about Max Crosby from the Raiders.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So our last episode appreciate you all tuning in for that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We saw a lot of engagement there, which is great and there's still a lot of smoke being talked about with Max Crosby and potentially even the Buccaneers here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's start off first.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll start off with Jeremy Fowler's report here from ESPN because he was all over the Mike McDaniel stuff of the offensive coordinator position and he was
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, Mike McDonald ends up going to the Charter's Caleb, but it was really close.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think between those two as Jeremy Fowler reported that it could have really been going to Baker Mayfield and the Bucks, but he decides to go back home to the West Coast.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Here's what Jeremy Fowler had to say in one of his reports at Super Bowl week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He said one team that typically doesn't jump in these high stakes waters, but would be a
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is the type of move that would put Tampa Bay over the top.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so they were a handful of other team named here as well in this piece, the bills, lions, and the 49ers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But it's interesting to get the bucks mentioned here at the very end of it with a little bit more of some meat to it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we've talked about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We talked about it in the last week's episode.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I think there's a real chance here for the bucks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think, too, you align it there with John Spiteck, your former assistant,
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[SPEAKER_02]: with Jason Lye that relationship there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think gives you some leverage to say, okay, this could actually be something of a reality for the bucks and Max Crosby Caleb
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, definitely becoming a reality, if there's smoke, there's a little fire somewhere, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not completely gone, but it's not completely ablaze either.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So there is some rumblings there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love the head nod to Jason Light, not ever making any big splash for each of those very popular.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, but I mean, it is good to see your name in there, you know, being tossed around with one of the top guys that could be on the trade.
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[SPEAKER_01]: the trade block right now obviously you're in desperate need of edge rush help if you guys haven't already hit over the bucks game day.com.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm shamelessly plugging my article that I've rubbed you of the day about the one area this office isn't that buck and years need to pay attention to if they want to become suitable contenders again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and I touch on a lot of this from, you know, trades, free agent perspective as well as the NFL draft that's coming up here in April.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you guys had ever to bugs game day dot com and check that out, but it will all come down to what are, you know, the Raiders wanting in this trade package apparently it's kind of been mentioned.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and rumblings through social media or wherever you see your news that they're kind of wanting a Mike a Parsons-esque trade package for him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's going to be a couple first rounders and a really really good player like the Cowboys were able to get and Gary.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're not Gary.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I forget who it was who they got from from Green Bay and that trade.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a hefty haul, you know, I don't know if the Buccaneers and Jason Liger are going to be willing to part with the two first round picks before we had mentioned, you know, maybe a first, the second, maybe a second and third in a player, but it looks like that price has kind of gone up a little bit for, you know,
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[SPEAKER_01]: for a guy like a max crossbow even though he is, you know, getting older, I think he's what, 29 years old, on that higher end.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But you look at some of the guys out there, Trey Hendrickson, he's 31 years old, kind of coming on the down slope of his, but you've got to get out there and get a veteran guy, a veteran past rusher that has production as an elite, you know, and rusher does get to the quarterback, not somebody like a host on Reddit that we've had this past season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the redic, the redic signing gave you some hope that maybe there would be full, you know, intrigue, which I do think mentally it was there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just don't think that a physicality nature.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It just, some things didn't click.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think two entries did not help as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like you said, there's a sonratic, but there's a different caliber that you'd be reaching at here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like you just said with Hendrix and Max Crosby.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, there was another report this was on February 9th on Cero Week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is from Sports Booms, Jason La, Canfora.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He reported being anonymous NFL general manager that Crosby has explicitly told the Raiders my no minority owner Tom Brady that he will never
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[SPEAKER_02]: play for that team again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There was some reports too early on from that that he would rather retire than suit up for the Raiders Just he was not happy during you know getting place on injured deserve.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's still felt like he could have played in those final games for the Raiders So that relationship just continued to kind of just get aggravated where I would think in years past we we know that you know He really loved Vegas.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He loved the Raiders
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[SPEAKER_02]: Even going through all of these turn-around and trying to do these rebuilds and he stayed for Pete Carroll and everything like You know, he really likes the Raiders and Plain for them and that fan base It just absolutely loves it But I think just some things continue and continue in this last one with him being placed on Ender's Reserve And I mean, I'll be able to finish off this season because he really prides himself and being available a guy that can go out there with high Motor he has one of the highest motors in football that we know
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[SPEAKER_02]: really aggravated and pissed him off.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And now you're seeing, you know, some reports and some things where he's unhappy about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now the thing that gets really interesting Caleb and we talked about it last week was Clint Kubiak.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's coming in to being in the Raiders head coach.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just want to see a little.
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[SPEAKER_02]: you know, offensive coordinator for Seattle.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He just spoke, uh, believe it was yesterday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yesterday.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And his introductory press conference, they decided he's fired up, you know, he just had a conversation with Max Crosby, and he feels strongly that that our relationship can continue further to keep him in, uh, I almost said Oakland, but last
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot going on with Crosby at the moment.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you try to like PC's together of how it went with Miles Garrett and the Browns.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we know how Miles Garrett likes to do things.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's gonna do all this, practically what's happening here, but then resigning with the Browns.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is this another Miles Garrett situation?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Or is this Max Crosby thing?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is he really pissed off and tired about being with the Raiders?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, I mean, you look at it's weird.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, everything's been like full steam ahead, you know, for Clint, you know, making his way to Vegas immediately after winning the Super Bowl.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He said, you know, we sat down had coffee.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You also think about Max.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's just coming off surgery on his meniscus that he tore in his knee.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's been a lot of things going on between these two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it similar?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess it is kind of similar when you look back the Miles Kirt's situation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He spoke a lot about he wanted to win, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he wanted to go out and win, but it ultimately became about money for him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And once once Cleveland was able to meet that set number that he had in mind, he was like, yeah, no problem.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll come, you know, be on this horrible team for the rest of my career as long as I'm getting paid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now with Crosby, I don't know what, I mean, he's obviously getting paid pretty well there in Vegas.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's on the dock or on their wallets on their books until 2030, if I believe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So money's not really a thing that he's looking at.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like a new deal type of situation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think it would be more so the frustration levels with them in the direction of the franchise and going to winning, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you going to focus on the defense?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you going to bring in guys to where we can be a good defensive unit and not everything is on my shoulders?
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[SPEAKER_01]: On top of that, what are we going to do on the offense?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Are we going to be able to score points?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because we haven't, we've averaged like 12 points per game for the past.
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[SPEAKER_01]: However long it has been so those frustrations are clear those frustrations are obvious He doesn't like to be micromanage as a player and that became very apparent after when you saw him shooting the basketball And his home gem He was not gonna listen to whatever ownership or anybody in the front office is telling him to stay off of his knee Yeah, I need to what Devon White like you said last week
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, and then he's got that fiery personality with Devon White because obviously he wasn't living up to cross these expectations and I'm back Remember what that should look like um there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So
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[SPEAKER_01]: different situations ultimately I mean it could you know end up where he just ends up back and Vegas they are able to pair that repair that relationship now that Kubex there as the head coach but you think about it Kubex is an offensive guy so what are they going to what's the defense gonna have planned what's the new DC gonna have planned out for them things are not that nature and they're gonna have to also down you know they mentioned they went and got coffee already and had a little conversation and music cited this and everything's excited when you got new
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[SPEAKER_01]: As a player in the league, you've got new coaches.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Ooh, you know, how fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to be adding, you know, to the room.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to be adding to the defense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Ooh, this is going to be fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm excited until those games start getting played.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you see what happens with those losses or whatever they may be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're starting to lose again, then you're going to start seeing that same stuff come up and up and up again over and over.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I mean, right now, it's, you know, kind of that,
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[SPEAKER_01]: when you call it the honeymoon phase of everything, everybody's going to be all happy, fine and dandy, but what when it comes down to it is they're going to have to sit down, you know, kind of speak some hard truths to one another and be like, okay, well, where are we at?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if we aren't aligned on the direction that we want to go,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, let's see what our best option is and we'll work with you to finding a spot that you want to be and I feel like I mean the bucks would have a great shot They have the the draft capital to be able to do so They have the salary.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure they'll get the salary cap kind of squared away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The salary cap's going up so that'll help as well Restructuring guys like the Chris Godwin you can even use Chris Godwin as kind of trade bait There for the Raiders because they obviously need some wide receiver help themselves
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[SPEAKER_01]: But the two first rounders that's where it's going to come down to is Jason like going to be willing to par with it who knows
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's somebody in my opinion that you go out there and do this for and then if, you know, the money isn't quite right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can restructure, you know, later down the road and then visit that, but I think Crossbee is that type of player that you definitely want in Tampa Bay and you absolutely need after what has been transpiring over the past few seasons now, whether how aggressive it'll be in that search remains to be seen, but we'll continue to follow the trail as the little pieces keep crumbling.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So this would be Max Crosby's fifth head coach coming up if he does decide to play in 2026 for the Raiders with Clint Kubey at coming in, this would be another new head coach that he would have to evolve and grow into and all of that nature.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So Max, he's been through this before.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He knows the spiel, he knows how exciting this like you said, Caleb, it can be very exciting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is awesome.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Here's my plan of how to change things around and
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[SPEAKER_02]: you can try to do a lot of that, and you know, he clent very successful offensive coordinator, and he's coming in to be a head coach for the first time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And there's a lot that he is going to have to learn from being a head coach.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And there's a lot that comes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What that also to, not just being a new head coach, but also to, they've got to find a quarterback, which is likely going to be yes Fernando Mendoza, but that's not just Fernando Mendoza, they've got a lot of pieces to fix across that offense.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They just traded away this last season,
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[SPEAKER_02]: One of if you can name any player on outside of Bowers on the Raiders, you know, who else you're going to name?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, I got a lot of things to fix their offensively.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so it's going to take a while for that turnaround for next Browsby.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now there's some good points here in the chat, you know, there was one about, you know, I don't want to see us give up those picks when we have so many needs on the defensive side of the ball.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I fully agree like there's
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's the pros and the cons of this and it's from both sides as well because we got to look at it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What would this do to not be great or hurt not hurt the buck and ears on their end and yes, there's a lot of answers are still need to be made at linebacker there with including.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Lontate David, what are they going to do there because they completely with out on making that a focus in this last NFL draft, which we all thought could have been a mistake.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We understood maybe a mechic book of going, you know, trying to grab him the first round, but you maybe were thinking, like Evans, this was his last year, so then you're getting ready for the future and such, but doesn't seem like Mike Evans.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to talk about him in a minute, but seems like things aren't
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, leaning to that, we're, you know, he's going to be, you know, ending his career soon.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then you, like we've always said, you know, the past rush has been an issue.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The inside of the defensive line outside of Vita Vey, you got to get Elijah Cancie healthy man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, got to get him fully healthy for four years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of different ways to look at it too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, obviously past rush is the biggest thing getting up to first rounders with suck.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But in the artiquois spoke about earlier, I think there's a way where you can get two guys this year and an ad rush because there's plenty of guys within the NFL draft that you can get as well at either pick 15 or in the second round, maybe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you can even try and move up, you can see a guy like a mezzodore, a caltric fog, has been, you know, tossed around to the buck and ears at 15 as well, a lot of people like sunny styles at 15 as a outside linebacker there in Tampa as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's a lot of different directions that they could go and then you can get like a guy like a Rashon Gary in free agency and you know, Rashon Gary isn't necessarily that level of, uh,
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[SPEAKER_01]: couple of seasons, it's kind of had a lot of flack this past season for kind of loafing around sometimes not putting in full effort, but if you can, you know, sometimes it takes a new scenery and if he's able to find refined that footing then he could do really well here in Tampa and then you're not having to get rid of that draft capital and then you can go and use it on a guy like a calzard fault and then
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[SPEAKER_01]: you have to legit guys coming off the edge and you're you're almost too deep at that point with y'all y'all and then with David Walker coming back off of his piece of injury.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're not sure what that what he entirely looks like at all really because he that happened before we even got to see him take the field and so I know and so he cut his moments.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we're not going to go crazy off of just a few flashbacks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We did that same thing with Rossier Dennis.
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[SPEAKER_02]: you know, that is not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's a lot of different directions you can go with this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, I would say that Jason light and company aren't going to want to use two first on Max cross me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's going to be tough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I highly doubt the Raiders are going to really get to first and let's as a team that's really, really itching to get him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not quite like a person, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not quite.
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[SPEAKER_01]: a guy who can also go, you know, and drop out in the coverage.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he does it from time to time, but Mike has always out there dropping the coverage, always doing, you know, things and whatever, you know, they need him to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So different players, but it'll be interesting to see what they get.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I see, you know, a lot of the people will talk about, you know, Chris Godwin, what they be willing to give him up after, you know, taking the home count, home count,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who knows, I think Godwin is probably more of one of those restructure types, restructure that 22 APY for him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe not you keep him around just restructure that contract on a yearly basis, make it a little bit more incentive based, and then you could be able to perhaps move somebody else in that trade if it comes available, but it will be interesting to see because there are a lot of different directions the book and years can, a lot of options, a lot of different avenues for them to go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: to improve this past rush, but obviously it's on everybody's radar that the Buccaneers are in need of a past rush if they're continually being brought up in every conversation about any past rush or that's out there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and he is going to be coming back, talking speaking out across, he's going to be coming back from this full, meniscus, you know, Terran, full repair.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to have to be about a three to four month
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[SPEAKER_02]: window.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's different than an ACL, but still a knee and your playing football and it's very important to come in off the edge as well.
21:03
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's actually probably the one you need the least, but they're like the one in your knee that you need the least.
21:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, the one, the one in there just got to get a fix and he's a guy that works really hard and he's going to take care of his body too as well.
21:19
[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't think there's too much of an issue there on that front of it.
21:23
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's going to be really intriguing.
21:24
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we've got a long long offseason ahead and it's been very apparent.
21:30
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm glad that it's showing its true colors.
21:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Now that the bucks have been lacking immensely in a very large way,
21:36
[SPEAKER_02]: at pass rush.
21:38
[SPEAKER_02]: It's hurt them a lot and definitely to an Elijah Cancie isn't healthy and he's not able to be out there with, you know, you know, Vita Fayette.
21:46
[SPEAKER_02]: That you're putting a lot of reliability then.
21:49
[SPEAKER_02]: I just feel like just a little islands.
21:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Y'all is on his own island and then you've got also two Vita Fayette.
21:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Those two guys are very strong guys at the line.
21:59
[SPEAKER_02]: But having an extra piece next to them, a tandem piece is really what could make those make that production a lot better.
22:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Not that they're dependent on those guys, but those guys really take a lot of that off for those other guys.
22:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
22:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
22:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
22:14
[SPEAKER_02]: And I know there was a comment in here and it's funny because, you know, we're both the F.S.U.
22:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Alums.
22:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Got the F.S.U.
22:21
[SPEAKER_02]: helmet back here.
22:21
[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, I can actually under, I could actually, you know, understand this here, because they're all Jackson's guy at Florida State.
22:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, just the way that he looks, his physical attributes are top notch, you know, that's exactly what you thought of whenever he was coming from Miami to Florida State, the, the body build is there and he, that's all he did was take on two guys and every play snap after snap and that's exactly what Vivaia does as well, but he's not maybe, he's not the fast and twitchy guy like Elijah can't see is what you were saying there, Caleb.
22:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Vita Van takes on those guys that allow us for for college of can see to work those hands, work those arms, work his feet, his shorter bill, it allows him to be a little bit more twitchier and faster to get to the quarterback.
23:05
[SPEAKER_02]: But you know, I think the bucks do feel really strongly about what they have to and they're rookie offensive linemen.
23:12
[SPEAKER_02]: And now I can't get it to my head.
23:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Who is your Robert Elijah Roberts man?
23:17
[SPEAKER_02]: He's going to get pissed at that.
23:19
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if he tunes in the show, but he's a great guy.
23:22
[SPEAKER_02]: He allowed me to pick his brain a lot because he was a rookie that came in and really found his stride in end up being a starter for right and if you go back and think of it He was a defensive end at SMU Yeah, and the truck years moved him inside
23:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think they like that speed that he had you have a lot of versatility there and you're completely right.
23:41
[SPEAKER_02]: I would be right there with it.
23:43
[SPEAKER_02]: But let's keep on moving on here.
23:44
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to talk about Mike Evans and if you guys have any questions.
23:47
[SPEAKER_01]: I think of this comment.
23:50
[SPEAKER_01]: We need at least three to four more.
23:54
[SPEAKER_01]: That's where we're at guys like that's where I'm at.
23:59
[SPEAKER_01]: That's again, back to that article.
24:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, go get two more like it's back in our hearts you.
24:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Anywhere so yeah, you can go we'll move on to the next topic.
24:09
[SPEAKER_02]: I completely work.
24:10
[SPEAKER_02]: What?
24:11
[SPEAKER_02]: Braswell didn't do it for you guys.
24:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Come on now I think we all were mentioning in that topic of conversation I know right.
24:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, we we all were kind of scratching our heads on the Braswell thing right out the bad not saying that we were experts on it We call it or whatever that was going to be a developmental pickup for the vaccine.
24:28
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what every insider said.
24:30
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what
24:31
[SPEAKER_02]: people and how, you know, that was going to be something that was going to have to be your past Russia of past rushing down.
24:39
[SPEAKER_02]: The fast one, yeah, the fast twitchy, but a shockingly, you do have to have some strength on you.
24:45
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think, too, you know, that was kind of that same realm.
24:48
[SPEAKER_02]: I hate to say it, but it was like redic, you know, redic was not the biggest guy out there.
24:52
[SPEAKER_02]: And it happens to be, it's, you know,
24:54
[SPEAKER_02]: one the size of a Jared verse with the rams man that that size and fast and Strength as well.
25:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean if you look at edges too.
25:03
[SPEAKER_01]: There's that away guy who just want a super bowl With they say I don't see hawks who don't tremendous numbers at a season I don't know if you're gonna be able to attract him to leave at a Seattle or because they have what I think the six-most
25:17
[SPEAKER_01]: The six most salary cap available to be able to spend this year, even with it going up, so they'll have even more money to spend, so he'll be a free agent and they'll probably want to lock him down, but if you can pull him away from Seattle, that would be also another name to watch.
25:31
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25:57
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26:02
[SPEAKER_02]: When the max cross be news breaks.
26:05
[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to want to be successful.
26:05
[SPEAKER_01]: You guys got as close to a hundred likes on the last show.
26:08
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm hoping you guys can can actually get us there this time.
26:11
[SPEAKER_02]: That was crazy.
26:12
[SPEAKER_02]: That was crazy.
26:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
26:14
[SPEAKER_01]: We truly do appreciate the love guys.
26:15
[SPEAKER_01]: We truly do.
26:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
26:17
[SPEAKER_02]: No, that's been awesome.
26:18
[SPEAKER_02]: It's been awesome.
26:19
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm like I said, we've got a long off season ahead.
26:21
[SPEAKER_02]: So we're going to try to entertain you guys and helps entertain us to be honest with you as a well.
26:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's talk some like Evans.
26:28
[SPEAKER_02]: So there was some reports.
26:30
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it was on literally the Super Bowl day.
26:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, we had, uh, I want to say all these names, Pelacero, we had a report.
26:38
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it was actually from Garafalo from the NFL network.
26:42
[SPEAKER_02]: He actually reached out to Mike Evans agent, Derek Gilmore.
26:48
[SPEAKER_02]: and noted that Mike Evans finished feeling better than he has in several seasons and that his competitive nature leads to more football.
26:57
[SPEAKER_02]: So he believes or he has a strong feeling that just because of his competitive nature, he'll want to continue playing.
27:06
[SPEAKER_02]: And you know what to be honest with you, I think for a lot of bucks fans, including us here at Buck's Game Day,
27:14
[SPEAKER_02]: kind of preparing to where my ovens is going to continue as career.
27:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, now we'll be what the buck in years.
27:19
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I'm at a 90% yes, that will be what Tampa Bay, I think.
27:23
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's the community thing that really I think stands out first and foremost and anything his relationship with Baker may field actually his wife doesn't want to leave either so yeah yeah like it doesn't make a whole ton of sense, but it does get interesting though and it's very realistic like you need to think of these other teams that will do a lot.
27:44
[SPEAKER_02]: for a caliber player like the Buffalo Bills who you have a really strong talent with Josh Allen, but are they in dire need of a true wide receiver one or see right in Clark to spoke about that this morning on any really what he said.
28:01
[SPEAKER_01]: he said he said is the perfect marriage in Buffalo for Mike Evans and I was like oh man I don't know if he doesn't mind Clark, but that's just who I typically go to about stick to takes is R.C.
28:12
[SPEAKER_02]: so it's still something like these teams will get desperate I mean these GMs will get very desperate definitely what their job is on the line and such and it feels like that window for the Buffalo was tightened up certainly to still I mean that window for the chiefs as
28:31
[SPEAKER_02]: patch my home is coming back from the season ending injury there like there are some teams that are going to throw out some desperate numbers if Mike Evans does intend on coming back now i think you are going to get a local discount from the bucks but still he does need to get paid how he plays what how do you take this all in Caleb because we got to interest in next couple months.
28:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's not surprising to see that is agents out there spreading the word that Mike wants to return to football.
28:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Leading up to the Super Bowl like the day before the Super Bowl because Mike's whole thing up to this point has been, you know, I'm going to wait a couple or, you know, maybe a couple weeks after the Super Bowl is finished to, you know, kind of think about things and come to a conclusion of my decision.
29:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Mike is clearly come to a decision that he's going to play football again.
29:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, or his agent probably wouldn't have put that out there.
29:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, where's it going to be?
29:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Not really sure.
29:21
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you look at everything that ties him into the, to the area, the community.
29:24
[SPEAKER_01]: His wife loves it here, um, his child, um, or children here as well.
29:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and, and, you know, having to move them.
29:32
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's at a point is career reason to latter half, right?
29:34
[SPEAKER_01]: So he's kind of on that down slope here.
29:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Is he really going to want to upheave his family and move to.
29:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Buffalo, New York, of all places to go, you know, finish out as career for maybe two to three more years.
29:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Or maybe maybe he could see himself in Houston, even though they've got a stacked wide receiver room and kind of going back home.
29:52
[SPEAKER_01]: But all signs really point to Mike coming back.
29:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, it's got to be a hometown discount.
29:57
[SPEAKER_01]: It likely will.
29:57
[SPEAKER_01]: It always has been with Mike.
29:59
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think
30:02
[SPEAKER_01]: The addition of Zach Robinson is going to be huge for him and make new decisions because of what you were able to see from Drake London and his, you know, leap from, you know, first year under Zach Robinson to that second year and there's Zach Robinson to where he became in all pro was just tremendous and I think his connection with Baker Mayfield.
30:19
[SPEAKER_01]: is just going to continue to be at that elite level, right?
30:23
[SPEAKER_01]: So everything just lines up perfectly for you in Tampa Bay and you don't really have to do much for you to be able to get a contract that you're at least worth and you can go back to these other teams being able to possibly throw around some crazy money.
30:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you look at the situation last year with CG-14 and the Patriots throwing them 24 APY instead of the bucks 22 trying to lure him away and come to New England
30:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Chris decided to stick out and be loyal to the team that has been loyal to him throughout the whole or his whole career as well.
30:52
[SPEAKER_01]: So kind of a similar situation to that, but Buffalo, very intriguing right because Keon Coleman was kind of a Mike Evans type.
31:01
[SPEAKER_01]: If you will kind of a high point, go up and catch it, deep into that type of player,
31:07
[SPEAKER_01]: that's a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot
31:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Buffalo obviously needs a wider silver one.
31:28
[SPEAKER_01]: They desperately need one.
31:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Who are they going to get on the market?
31:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure, but him pairing up with Josh Allen would look really pretty.
31:35
[SPEAKER_01]: It would probably really exciting to watch, but I'm on the board with Mike being here in Tampa.
31:41
[SPEAKER_01]: And I do think he's going to come back.
31:42
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just a matter of when that announcement will come, but we'll have that for you guys over at buckskameday.com for sure.
31:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
31:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the funny thing here.
31:51
[SPEAKER_02]: This is from King Cook.
31:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Appreciate you commenting on here with us this afternoon.
31:54
[SPEAKER_02]: It says if God wants a new England, they might have won that Super Bowl.
31:57
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, yeah, I mean, they needed some literacy retargetes as well.
32:00
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the fun and they do much, did he?
32:02
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, digs.
32:04
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Mac Holland was there, but.
32:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, what was that outfit by the way, did you see that?
32:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Walking in with chains and handcuffs and I couldn't tell if it was like a nod to like Alcatrazic since they're in San Francisco or like it's more of a nod to silence of the lambs Kind of a lecture like what are we're doing but I just like wonder what the teammates are thinking man Because you know we hear some things in a locker room after games and such and sometimes there's full of Regan on and what people are wearing and usually it's a jewelry that they're wearing so I know for sure that man
32:39
[SPEAKER_02]: I just get mad like walking into the locker and like, what's up guys, I'm getting ready for the Super Bowl.
32:45
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to triple take in things like, yeah.
32:48
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to let the fucker jail get in here.
32:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that was going on anyways.
32:56
[SPEAKER_02]: That was hilarious stuff.
32:59
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, there's a question here, you know, besides what Evans means to us as a fan base, do we really need Evans to succeed?
33:08
[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, this white or silver room is, it's loaded and you saw a lot of strides being made from a mechic buco.
33:13
[SPEAKER_02]: We saw the big burst at the beginning of the season.
33:15
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, we did see that.
33:17
[SPEAKER_02]: at start to slow down there for him, but I think that was more of the Josh Resard and then offense as a whole, we could point to a handful of things, but you're being as well.
33:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, that just things started to really not work well and starts with Baker Mayfield, and I don't think Resard was there.
33:32
[SPEAKER_02]: But I point back and I thought that was great point with Zach Robinson.
33:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Remember when ever Mike Evans, we wrote an article on how I don't know if it was last year, the year prior, he actually noted on Drake London being one of his, if not his favorite wide receiver
33:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Favorite young wide receiver and the league right now.
33:49
[SPEAKER_02]: He noted that we put out a piece on that as well.
33:54
[SPEAKER_02]: And I just, I do think that plays a big role for Mike Evans coming back.
33:58
[SPEAKER_02]: And he has, of course, Baker Mason, he has a quarter back there.
34:01
[SPEAKER_02]: But he also knows, man, where else are you going to go?
34:05
[SPEAKER_02]: And yes, you could go to a bills and you have that quarter back there.
34:08
[SPEAKER_02]: But as a wider receiver of his age, he needs pieces around him to get open.
34:09
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34:18
[SPEAKER_02]: People are sleeping on jail.
34:19
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think jail, I mean, he came back and he's sure that he's a beast and he's a beast and you got to test Johnson as well and that room in Chris Godwin.
34:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Like those other pieces, a
34:30
[SPEAKER_02]: an experience offensive coordinator will get this correct, and, you know, not saying adding drugs because art has a really strong future and the league, but there's some things that were not working on.
34:40
[SPEAKER_01]: You could tell that and he just wasn't ready, man.
34:42
[SPEAKER_01]: It is just, yeah.
34:45
[SPEAKER_02]: And so I thought that was something strong, the point out that, you know, he did name Jake London as one of his, or his favorite young Wider series in the league right now.
34:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, it's this is a great question, great hypothetical.
34:57
[SPEAKER_01]: And I would say no, you know, I don't think you need events, right?
35:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Like when you when you want and need, there's a big difference.
35:05
[SPEAKER_01]: But I do think you want my weapons, right?
35:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
35:08
[SPEAKER_01]: You have the amount of talent on your roster to where you can format and offense to show the strengths of the stars that you have on that team.
35:18
[SPEAKER_01]: And you have a wealth of weapons at your disposal.
35:22
[SPEAKER_01]: It's edited by Mike Evans, of course, because of the future Hall of Fame tag that comes along with him, right?
35:30
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's more of a one thing, right?
35:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Mike wants to be back, we want Mike bad.
35:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Mike doesn't need us, we don't need Mike, but that's kind of how I look at it at it as the books could be successful without Mike Evans.
35:45
[SPEAKER_01]: That showed early on in the portion of this past season when Mike did go down.
35:48
[SPEAKER_01]: with the hamstring early, and then with his broken clavicle midway through the season.
35:54
[SPEAKER_01]: The buck and ears were still kind of on a roll, but still trying to figure things out at that point.
35:58
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, a lot of their demise there had to do with play calling injuries,
36:05
[SPEAKER_01]: And things of that nature, but when you have Jim and Melon Tess Johnson, the mecca book and Chris Godwin, you're going to be able to get the job done if you bring in a leap past catching tight in as well if Kate out and we're to leave him free agency and then you get a back like I doubt you'll get Kenneth Walker after winning this football MVP because he's going to be asking a little bit more money after that, but if you can get a guy like that to kind of compliment bucket Irving and you're just you know you're working with them with a pot of gold really like you've got everything at your disposal and
36:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Mike Evans doesn't even need to play in for that for your offense to kind of run.
36:39
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's a great lack at 1515.
36:41
[SPEAKER_02]: I gave us a good article over there to use a bugsgamedate.com did the buck and ears need Mike Evans to succeed in 2026.
36:48
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's a good question.
36:50
[SPEAKER_02]: I was a good call on the right.
36:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's jump into some more questions and I had a few other ones in here now.
36:58
[SPEAKER_02]: There was
37:00
[SPEAKER_02]: the leave has resared been picked up yet.
37:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Oops.
37:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, he has been picked up.
37:04
[SPEAKER_02]: He's over there with the Eagles.
37:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, what is his physician?
37:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it passing in coordinator again quarterback coach quarterback scoach.
37:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
37:12
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
37:13
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah.
37:13
[SPEAKER_02]: He's in the hands on there.
37:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Which I think it's great for him as well.
37:16
[SPEAKER_02]: He can learn a little bit more on the quarterback aspect of things because I think his.
37:21
[SPEAKER_02]: attention was given off as as it should be as an office corner you got to look at every single position man and one thing that I think the attention was let go of quite a bit was from baker may feel it and if there's anything that we've learned at least from covering Baker with the box specifically the box you could look back at the Cleveland Browns to stand there in yada yada wherever else
37:40
[SPEAKER_02]: He needs a hands-on coach.
37:42
[SPEAKER_02]: He needs a hands-on coach week to week and such like then the bucks have brought in some new staff to do so and Zach Robinson is going to be one of those coaches as well to do that and of course to with the pickup.
37:55
[SPEAKER_02]: that they did this off season, bringing in Indiana's quarterbacks coach, and I'm going to have it.
38:01
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to, I'm going to, I went to Whitmer.
38:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Whitmer.
38:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, bring in a man.
38:05
[SPEAKER_02]: So many games, man.
38:07
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like hard.
38:08
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like Whitmer and then TJ Yates is passing game corner.
38:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
38:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
38:13
[SPEAKER_01]: So you got all like a whole new restructuring there on the offense.
38:18
[SPEAKER_01]: My heart's just critic of Grays was the time.
38:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, the timing of play calls.
38:24
[SPEAKER_01]: He was not very good at being able to dial up the right play call when it needed to be dialed up.
38:29
[SPEAKER_01]: He would always call it wrong.
38:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and it's not that his play calls were, were bad, you know, like obviously they work in certain situations, but you got to be able to know when these calls don't need to be made and when they don't need to be made.
38:39
[SPEAKER_01]: And that was something he struggled with, mildly.
38:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and I'm glad that he's so, you know, found a home.
38:44
[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know if that's going to get any better there in Philly when you've got Jalen Hurt's as your quarterback.
38:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and they've got a whole new offensive regime in and of themselves.
38:53
[SPEAKER_01]: So it'll be an enjoy.
38:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I can see the watch the rest of his career plays out, but we reform.
38:58
[SPEAKER_02]: This is a pretty good and be a pretty fun conversation to have and if this is Mike Evans, he comes back and we jump into a training camp once again.
39:07
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it was kind of like this way anyways before the season began.
39:11
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, who is going to be, you know, wider seeer.
39:15
[SPEAKER_02]: two or three, or who's going to be that guy that jumps in, but we saw Jalen McMillan get heard at that Pittsburgh preseason game.
39:22
[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, we got our answer there pretty quickly that mechabuku is going to have to step up big time, but man, this battle between Jamehac.
39:30
[SPEAKER_02]: and a mecca a book a just saying if Chris got one and my heavens are you why does he want a red receiver to that battle for that third spot is going to be content so that's why I say subscribe to the subscribe button because we'll be very pretty camp every single day but that's going to be fun man I'm all for that because
39:49
[SPEAKER_02]: I still think both everybody is healthy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If everybody is healthy this off season in training camp I am so mad that I moved away because I'm not gonna get the seed in person live and you guys are Which I will be subscribed to Bucks game day on YouTube so that I can catch some of those shorts in those reels, but yeah, yeah, I mean it's
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[SPEAKER_01]: at this point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Jalen came on strong.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I we weren't sure how we were going to come back after that serious neck injury that almost cost him his whole entire career.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But at this point with the talent that these guys have and what they've been able to show in their short careers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Which, which Zach Robinson has mentioned in kind of passing that he's super excited to get the work with him and get him in motion and utilize him in space.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So just a lot of fun things going on with that offense as a whole and you can make, you know, Jay Mac, wide receiver too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Chris is obviously falling off a little bit because of his serious injuries that he's happened, but now he'll be one whole year and a half, two years removed from that ankle dislocation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It took him about two seasons coming back from that ACL till we saw him, which is when he was putting up white receiver one numbers across the league before that dislocation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not wrong, just ankle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe this is, you know, it's just two years for Chris and then he's back to playing a leap ball.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I say, too, Liam Cohen really know how to utilize all of that talent together.
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[SPEAKER_02]: As a box, have some serious talent on offense.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They have a great offensive line.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When fully held, you could argue that there are top five offensive line.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We already just talked about the wider sea reunion at tight end.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Definitely can improve there is what that is right there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Running back, you felt really strong with shot, why in the combo with Bucky Irving.
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[SPEAKER_02]: but you still feel very strongly about Bucky Irving and it's going to be interesting to see what the Bucks do this off season and at that running back room department, but still, we know, yeah, Brian Robinson.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, from the commander's hand.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, not any, well he's in, um, where is it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Where do you go?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, oh, oh,
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[SPEAKER_01]: You went to, you know, with 49ers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: 49ers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There you go for it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Go get that guy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, why not?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Good combo third, third down guy, physical back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm hoping, you know, not saying that needs to be like Liam Cohen, but I'm well, I'm feeling very optimistic with a well-experienced offensive coordinator.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to see these pieces utilize a lot more and you'll see guys like Chris got him to be able to find their strides.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then also too, like there's a comment on here about, you know, this is a great comment.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would love to see Mike Evans back for another year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He draws a lot of attention to the defense to open the other wider series to open up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's the thing, like I know we were
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[SPEAKER_02]: through the box need, my Kevin's to be able to succeed, not necessarily, but does it elevate your ceiling and to be able to do a lot more and get red zone, like all those everything's absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, that's what I mean.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, certainly does.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Four is automatically super, super high.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, uh-huh, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, so yeah, it's going to be really interesting to see what Zach Robinson brings with this offense.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll have a whole lot to to talk more about this during the offseason.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you're still with us on YouTube, I think we've got over 25 of you guys.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We really do appreciate it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And the dead part of the offseason Caleb, man, it's hard to, you know, find that intrigue of anything, you know, throughout the NFL until we get closer to the combine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe, but we're going to have tons of content coming from for you guys will probably get an article out soon on what that was said about Mike Evans and Buffalo and such and we'll have some more content here on our YouTube channel.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I said, head to subscribe button, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I've got some exciting stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the combine is here at the beginning of March and then the legal tampering period for free agency begins on March 9th.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's going to pick up pretty heavy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're less than a month away from on those dates.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then,
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[SPEAKER_01]: shortly thereafter a month later you'll be having the twenty twenty six NFL draft and you know agency hopefully you'll have an idea of where you're headed hopefully you can as someone mentioned earlier cherry pick with your first round pick and because of the moves that you made up to that point so definitely just gonna keep monitoring situations as they come
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we'll have.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, we're coming up close here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The NFL combine is not too far away.
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[SPEAKER_02]: February 23rd through March 2nd.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's flying by.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We were there last year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: River and I in person great experience there and such cold as hell and I already did my experience up there for the Pittsburgh Monday night football game and like 10 degrees.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm going to sign.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to do that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Again, let's finish off just real quick on this because we've had a lot of great interactions in the chat today So question asking for my guy black cat 15 15 on YouTube say now if we can sign tray Lloyd and a corner back would anyone be opposed to drafting Jeremiah love from Notre Dame the running back He's there at if he's there at 15
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, if you can get tray Hendrickson and Evan Lloyd and a corner back, even if you just keep Jamaal team, like if you just get a friendly discount, why the heck not, I would prefer to double up on a on a address or there at 15 rather than going running back because I do think there will be some solid guys in the free agent market that you can get pretty cheap as I mentioned about Brian Robinson earlier.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I mean, the bucketier is surprised everybody last year going to Mekka and Buka with what the 19th overall pick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it wouldn't be out of the question.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, obviously there's going to be a need for running backs with Rashad White definitely on the outs already being already notifying the team that he's gone because social media accounts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then who knows what's going to happen with Sean Tucker?
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's also a free agent, but he could be back for a very cheap deal, I imagine, but he could be a guy that other team sees somebody that they would be a valuable asset to their running back depth chart as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So definitely could just be with one guy there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, you'll have your Josh Williams and whoever else on the practice squad, but you're not going to elevate those guys or one of those guys to see a whole lot of time their split in carries with Bucket Irving.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jeremiah love he possesses a lot of what you would like he's not necessarily that Big back that you would kind of want to compliment bucket with but he does do some things kind of similar to overshot white and Being able to pass it's cast pass catch out of the backfield He has elite elite athleticism.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You've seen him hurt old guys before Make big explosive plays so I
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to punch of love and Bucky Rivering would be very fun to watch and you also can look at a guy in for agency like a debut Montgomery perhaps if they're going to get rid of sonic and knuckles up there in Detroit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a pretty funny comment.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I agree with Sean here Mike doesn't have to be fast never really was just Lanky ages of taking anything away from him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's still tall a shit It's guys line I agree.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You see that every time like just like a five yard to end around man or just a five yard out Wait, he just said he could do it with a walker.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What not?
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[SPEAKER_02]: As long as you can catch a football, he can do it with a walker.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, so Mike Evans still playing at 65.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, come on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I love it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, like it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we're right here right now, given some predictions.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, hey, I think I don't think Mike Evans is done.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think he might surprise the people.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Say potentially at least a two year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going minimum two year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it's going to be a one-year deal Yeah, I think it would be two that makes the most sense I think I think he's got at least two more And I mean you you saw the passion he had once he did come back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He I mean exploded in that first game back in against Atlanta But I mean obviously didn't have
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[SPEAKER_01]: the end of the season that he wanted after that game, but you could see cared a hell of a lot on the sidelines in the locker room in press conferences whenever he got a talk to him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he still loves a game and he talked about it when he came back from that injury, how much being off the field like his mental like just changes completely and he's he's like whenever I'm on the football, feel what I kind of have an escape.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's really missing it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I felt like or did miss it and I think that's something that's going to really drive him and being able to come back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: agree.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's going to do it for us.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We appreciate you all hanging out with you with us on here on a gorgeous Wednesday here in Tampa Bay 65 degrees sunny.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What's that weather up there in Boston?
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[SPEAKER_01]: We touched 40 today, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We've got ice melting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the ice danger melting up here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's really huge.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I'm going to take a really nice maybe get a little sweat stroll later in this beautiful vitamin D down here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Peace.
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