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Emergency ITB: Jalen Hurts Out Sunday Vs. Panthers With Blood Clot; Plan Going Forward? · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

• 0:09
  Speaker 1: Hello, everybody. Welcome to an emergency edition of Inside the Birds. Man,
• 0:13
  Speaker 1: I think this is our second emergency ITV already in
• 0:16
  Speaker 1: five weeks, so you know a lot is going on
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: with the team. And there is an emergency situation. The quarterback,
• 0:22
  Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, will not play Sunday against the Panthers. He
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: was determined to have what's called a superficial blood clot
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  Speaker 1: in his calf. Adam, we have discussed the fact that
• 0:33
  Speaker 1: he landed on the injury report late last week with
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: the calf. We talked about when he played in the game,
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  Speaker 1: he didn't run at all. And maybe some things are
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  Speaker 1: now starting to come together before we talk about it,
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  Speaker 1: because this is different than some like, say, a pulmonary embolism.
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  Speaker 1: I do want to read the statement from the Eagles
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  Speaker 1: just so that everybody has an idea of the timeline
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  Speaker 1: and the injury itself. OK, yeah. So this came from
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles statement directly. On Thursday, October 8th, Jalen visited
• 1:01
  Speaker 1: the training room after practice requesting treatment for his calf.
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  Speaker 1: He informed the medical staff he had been cleated during
• 1:08
  Speaker 1: the Rams game on October 4th. This was his first
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  Speaker 1: treatment session for the calf injury following the game after
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  Speaker 1: having practiced in full both Wednesday and Thursday. On Friday,
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  Speaker 1: Jalen received treatment, practiced in full, and was added to
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  Speaker 1: the practice report. Out in abundance of caution, An ultrasound
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  Speaker 1: was performed Saturday following the team's flight to London and walkthrough.
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  Speaker 1: The ultrasound revealed a superficial blood clot. Our medical staff
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  Speaker 1: and doctors in London reviewed the results and concluded that
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  Speaker 1: activity and mobility were important and that Jalen could safely play.
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  Speaker 1: Doctors recommended a follow-up ultrasound within 72 hours of the
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  Speaker 1: game and a return flight to Philadelphia Saturday. Jalen played
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  Speaker 1: without limitation in the game Sunday, received treatment on Monday
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  Speaker 1: and Tuesday, and practiced in full on Wednesday, as reflected
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  Speaker 1: in the practice report. Throughout our time in London and
• 2:00
  Speaker 1: this week, we have remained in communication with the league
• 2:02
  Speaker 1: office regarding the matter. On Wednesday night, a follow-up ultrasound
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  Speaker 1: revealed movement in the small blood clot. Jalen will be
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  Speaker 1: out for Sunday's game versus the Panthers as we determine
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  Speaker 1: the appropriate course of treatment. His health and safety are
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  Speaker 1: our highest priority. So that is the situation. We can
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  Speaker 1: get into that in a second. Tanner McKee is going
• 2:24
  Speaker 1: to be the starting quarterback. Cole Payton right now is
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  Speaker 1: the number two, the backup, but you and I have
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  Speaker 1: some doubts that by the time they line up Sunday
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  Speaker 1: that that is going to be the case. Either way, Adam,
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  Speaker 1: in a season with so many injuries, this is just
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  Speaker 1: the last bit of bad news the Eagles could afford
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  Speaker 1: with their season kind of hanging here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, if they don't get Andy Dalton back, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's going to be tough. They got to get someone
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  Speaker 2: who knows the system. Sure. The verbiage, the West Coast system,
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  Speaker 2: because you really don't want Cole Payton to be the
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  Speaker 2: number two quarterback if you could help it. And here's
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  Speaker 2: the problem. This is Thursday. So if it's not Dalton
• 3:04
  Speaker 2: by Friday, like who could you possibly get in an
• 3:07
  Speaker 2: emergency situation? I mean, Josh McCown's long since retired. He's coaching.
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  Speaker 2: He can't do that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to think like these West Coast, like is
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  Speaker 1: Nick Mullins out there or is he still with somebody?
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  Speaker 1: I don't even know.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't heard his name in a while. It's a
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  Speaker 2: good question, but they would have to get someone from
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  Speaker 2: that system. So it's, it's, it's tough. I had been
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  Speaker 2: on blood thinners. I don't know if I ever told
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  Speaker 2: you some years ago. It wasn't for, it wasn't quite
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  Speaker 2: like Jalen's dealing with, but I do remember distinctly. I
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  Speaker 2: could not bleed. So they, I was for sticking and
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  Speaker 2: what I could do. I couldn't play tennis. It's like
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  Speaker 2: five or six years ago. I couldn't play tennis. And
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  Speaker 2: the clot had to clear. I was restricted from doing
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  Speaker 2: certain activities. So he won't be able to play until
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  Speaker 2: it totally clears. And the key part was the last
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  Speaker 2: paragraph of the statement. In that graph, the blood clot moved.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So that's the thing that you get concerned about. It's superficial,
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  Speaker 2: but it moved. Yep. That's scary, man. Look, we're not
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  Speaker 2: going to question the doctors. They treated him. They thought
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  Speaker 2: he was okay to do it. But unfortunately, after that,
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  Speaker 2: it moved. Mm-hmm. And that's scary. So he's week to week.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see when he gets cleared to play. But until then,
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  Speaker 2: it's Tanner McKee. And wow, this is not the way
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  Speaker 2: Tanner McKee wanted to start, but it is what it is.
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  Speaker 2: That's where they're at.
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  Speaker 1: And we'll throw on top of that. I mean, we
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  Speaker 1: will go, we've gone through the injury report already and
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  Speaker 1: we'll do it again on, in Friday's pregame show. Well,
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  Speaker 1: when we record Friday, but you know, there's a real
• 4:33
  Speaker 1: likelihood that there will not be a Saquon Barkley. There
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  Speaker 1: will not be a Devante Smith. We'll have to see,
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  Speaker 1: but I mean, this is, we already know the offensive
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  Speaker 1: line is banged up through Kendall has been banged up.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, This is about as makeshift as makeshift can
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  Speaker 1: get for the Eagles. The line, we talked about how
• 4:49
  Speaker 1: the Eagles were actually favored at one point by, I think,
• 4:52
  Speaker 1: point and a half. That went down even before the
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  Speaker 1: Hurts injury, and now it's now tilted toward the Panthers.
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  Speaker 1: I thought I last saw by three or three and
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  Speaker 1: a half. So, clearly.
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  Speaker 2: When I woke up on Thursday morning, the Panthers were
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  Speaker 2: a one and a half point favorite. So, yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: there's no doubt. And, see, that's the thing with this.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of like, which tenor key are you getting?
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  Speaker 2: The guy who is super aggressive. Prior to the Washington game,
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  Speaker 2: it really started downhill for him in Week 18 at
• 5:21
  Speaker 2: home against the Commandos. And I remember we were doing
• 5:24
  Speaker 2: Inside the Tape. We were watching with Cosell. And Greg said,
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  Speaker 2: I guarantee you that some of these plays that he
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  Speaker 2: didn't make, he's going to keep them up at night.
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  Speaker 2: There's some layup throws he didn't make. That was on
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  Speaker 2: the old system. That was on a Syriani system, non-West Coast.
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  Speaker 2: Really starting in OTAs, I was like, wow, he's not
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  Speaker 2: really driving the football. What is going on with him?
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  Speaker 2: He's overthinking?
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And this is what happens when quarterbacks overthink. It makes
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  Speaker 2: someone who's got a strong arm, who possesses a strong arm,
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  Speaker 2: makes it look weaker when he's really not. But he's
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  Speaker 2: thinking and he's not driving the football. His footwork is
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  Speaker 2: all messed up. I saw this repeatedly in training camp.
• 6:01
  Speaker 2: Then in New England, I remember one of the practices,
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  Speaker 2: he threw the ball really well. I'm like, where the
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  Speaker 2: hell has that been for the last couple months?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But then the last preseason game, thumbs down. Yeah. So
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  Speaker 2: that's the problem with this. You just don't know what
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  Speaker 2: you're getting.
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  Speaker 1: And even if you have a much more improved version,
• 6:17
  Speaker 1: because it's been a few weeks, I mean... what to
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  Speaker 1: expect if he has, if his number one running back
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  Speaker 1: is some kind of combination of Damian Pierce and Carson Steele.
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  Speaker 1: And the two guys are blocking in front of them
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  Speaker 1: or continue to be majors or Lampkin or even Dickerson
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  Speaker 1: gets back, but he's not very healthy. I mean, and
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  Speaker 1: you can't get a run game. And then the best
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  Speaker 1: guy you got to throw to might be at this point, Wicks,
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  Speaker 1: who's not bad, but I mean, you get what I'm pointing.
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  Speaker 1: No Devante Smith, especially when you have a backup quarterback
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  Speaker 1: is really tough. So yeah, I would even say even
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  Speaker 1: if he felt better and look, it may be a,
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  Speaker 1: just a tough sledding for the Eagles offense overall, no
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  Speaker 1: matter what, but we'll see. There's a lot at stake.
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  Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing you just hit on was
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  Speaker 1: the fact that yes, they are without him, Jalen hurts
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  Speaker 1: on Sunday, but you know, they have to determine a
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  Speaker 1: course of action here and this could be extend longer
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  Speaker 1: than Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah. I was down. I couldn't, God, I'd have
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  Speaker 2: to look this up. I remember being on blood thinners
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  Speaker 2: to clear the clot. Yeah. And it's just, you know,
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  Speaker 2: other than what the, I had to do what the
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  Speaker 2: doctors told me to do, what I could do exercise wise. But,
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  Speaker 2: and I just remember the saying, you can't do it.
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  Speaker 2: You can't do the, like they list the things you
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  Speaker 2: can't do. But one of them was, cause if you
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  Speaker 2: really don't want to bleed, there's a whole, there's a
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  Speaker 2: whole concern. If you bleed, you'd be going to the
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  Speaker 2: emergency room. I just remember them scaring me. I was like,
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  Speaker 2: it was just, this thing came out of the blue
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  Speaker 2: that I had. Um, but, uh, Yeah. So he's week
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  Speaker 2: to week and we wish him well.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It's scary, man. It's it's scary. Yeah. And you saw,
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  Speaker 2: but ironically, Taylor Moten, the right tackle of the Panthers
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  Speaker 2: had a blood clot and his was, you know, his internal.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: It was different. And he was out months, not weeks.
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  Speaker 1: the difference between what Hertz has being a superficial blood
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  Speaker 1: clot and what Moten or others have had, like Chris
• 10:33
  Speaker 1: Olave in his chest, is that those were pulmonary embolisms,
• 10:36
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• 10:39
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  Speaker 1: had something else going on that was like very minor.
• 11:00
  Speaker 1: But the point is, yes, the doctors I had like.
• 11:03
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• 11:06
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• 11:09
  Speaker 1: come and all talk to me and i was getting
• 11:11
  Speaker 1: a little bit nervous there so those are more severe
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  Speaker 1: in fact i'm not even sure if you have to
• 11:16
  Speaker 1: be on blood thinners for the superficial one it may
• 11:18
  Speaker 1: be anti-inflammatories but the bottom line is here's the problem
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  Speaker 1: it moved and remember i was gonna say the bottom
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: line is the movement is the scary part yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And you're right, they're not all the same and it
• 11:30
  Speaker 2: depends on the location, but it started in this calf. Yeah,
• 11:34
  Speaker 2: I'm not a doctor, but I just know I had
• 11:36
  Speaker 2: to take them one time in my life and it
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  Speaker 2: was scary as hell.
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Because something that happened to me came out of the blue.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, the doctor's sitting you down in the office.
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  Speaker 2: He goes, okay, here's what you're dealing with. Here's what
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  Speaker 2: you have to do. He asks you about exercise. He goes,
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  Speaker 2: you won't be able to do that for a while.
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  Speaker 2: There's certain things you don't want to bleed. And this
• 11:54
  Speaker 2: is like six years ago, so I'm trying to remember
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  Speaker 2: what they told me. but it's scary. So, um, which
• 12:00
  Speaker 2: Jalen well, and then it was just getting back to football.
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  Speaker 2: So look, the thing is with Smith and Barkley, we're
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: not expecting them to play. Let's see what happens. You
• 12:10
  Speaker 2: never know, man. I, this business is funny how guys
• 12:14
  Speaker 2: respond to treatment, but the problem with, as we've detailed
• 12:17
  Speaker 2: Smith has had this injury for 10 weeks. Yeah. It's
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: early August, man. I mean, and, and, uh, Barkley's had
• 12:24
  Speaker 2: hamstring problems in his career. This is not good. I mean,
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: with Bixby and his surgery.
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  Speaker 1: Shipley's out.
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  Speaker 2: Shipley, I expect that. That's going to be a while.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to be a while. You're not going to
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: see him for a while. And they're in a tough way.
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  Speaker 2: And as we talked about yesterday. Actually, we had a
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: really fun show this morning, if you haven't heard it yet.
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  Speaker 2: We detailed big time the Panthers' injuries. We went over
• 12:48
  Speaker 2: a lot of stuff with the Panthers. I would say
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: it's more than I can remember talking about an opponent's injuries.
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Because it deserved it. Before the Hurts situation, I said
• 13:00
  Speaker 2: they had it worse than the Panthers. Maybe it was
• 13:03
  Speaker 2: worse than the Eagles. Oh boy. But right now, the
• 13:07
  Speaker 2: Eagles are in a situation where they've got to take
• 13:10
  Speaker 2: advantage of everything they have. We mentioned Carson Steele. Okay.
• 13:14
  Speaker 2: Got one big time season of ball state at over 1,500 yards.
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  Speaker 2: Not as successful at UCLA. Wasn't drafted for a reason. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I get that. But If you saw him in the preseason,
• 13:24
  Speaker 2: you probably said, who is this guy? Like he was
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: jumping over, like he was high-stepping it, jumping over guys.
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  Speaker 2: Like he looked like an NFL player. We know it's football.
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  Speaker 2: I know it's a preseason. And the opponent was not
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  Speaker 2: playing their starter, but he still did a good job.
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: So the coaches have to do a better job in-game.
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: This is where Sirianni's got to say, hey, I know
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: Manny might be in the booth, but say, hey, Sean,
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  Speaker 2: we need to look at Carson Steele here. Tell Jamal Singleton, hey,
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  Speaker 2: we need to get something going here. We need some help.
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  Speaker 2: That's your job, especially when you're not calling plays and
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: you don't have a SOA, senior offensive assistant. Be helpful.
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  Speaker 2: Remind these guys we have other players who can do it. Right.
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  Speaker 1: You know, this will be a big challenge for the
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: entire offensive staff because ordinarily we would say, listen. You
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: got to back up in, even if you like to
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: back up, you got to protect them in this situation.
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  Speaker 1: And you do that usually by trying to run the
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  Speaker 1: ball more, get better, more manageable down and distance scenarios,
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  Speaker 1: take fewer risks. But unfortunately, the Eagles, I mean, they've
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: been trying to run the ball better, even with Jalen
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  Speaker 1: Hurts as their quarterback, and have been unable to do that. Now,
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: they have to still try. They have to come up
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: with a way to give themselves more a far more
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: respectable run game than they showed against the Jaguars. I'm
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: not expecting it to be dynamic and explosive like it was.
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, we already, the ship has been sailing on that,
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: but you cannot average 1.3 yards for carry and expect
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: that you are protecting Tanner McKee. Now, maybe that means
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: you come out peppering the field really easy, you know,
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  Speaker 1: with quick passes to start. I mean, you do have
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  Speaker 1: Makai Lemon. You do have Wicks.
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  Speaker 2: You do have Cooper.
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  Speaker 1: We've talked about this, right?
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  Speaker 2: Real quick, real quick, just on that. The quick game,
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  Speaker 2: this is what Ron Jarowski told me. Either A, when
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: you have a struggling quarterback, you play the quick game,
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  Speaker 2: build his confidence, get him in a rhythm, get him accurate.
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  Speaker 2: You do the same thing with a struggling quarterback. Josh
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: said he could not tell you how many times when
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: he was, you know, we had a couple of rough games.
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  Speaker 2: Whatever the play caller was, was like, this ball's getting
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  Speaker 2: out of his hands. We're not going to let him think.
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  Speaker 2: We want him to feel good about it. So on
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  Speaker 2: your point that you just made, that's exactly what they
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: should do. Quick game. On your point about Makai Lemon,
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  Speaker 2: that's his deal. Short area. He's not an outside receiver.
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  Speaker 2: Can't do it. not at this level.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Get it out of his hands. He's super strong, tough.
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  Speaker 2: Cooper got her for goodness sake. Okay. Got her. And
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: whenever Ertz is in, by the way, he's out of elevation.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll see if they sign him to the practice squad.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And we'll see about the other two tight ends who
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: are returning from injury in terms of practice. But yeah,
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: you make a good point. I just wanted to, before
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: I forget, put that in there because that's how you build,
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: that's how you build confidence. And boy, McKee's confidence looks,
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: any of us who wants to train a kid looks
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: His body language is not great. He looked lost sometimes.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: He's just not the gunslinger. He just did not look
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: like the gunslinger that he once was. Yeah, yeah.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: Hey, you know what? Fred Johnson, it helps him now.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: Stick him out there as an extra offensive tackle. Get
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: bigger on the O-line. Put him next to Markel Bell,
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: except this time at tackle instead of guard, and let
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: him work his thing and try to run to the right.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: There's got to be– you just can't line up and
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: play your game and say, hey– we gave it our best.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: We tried to play our game. We doubled down on
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: the things that we believe in. No, you can't double
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: down when you have half the roster.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: You've got to be creative. You've got to figure things out.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: And of course, Adam, the defense, this is even more
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: urgent on them to really hold it together from start
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: to finish, not have lapses, not have implosions, not allow
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: big plays because unfortunately it's not fair, but it falls
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: on them to keep this thing within striking distance for
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: the Eagles as they try to figure it out offensively.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I would say, um, I would say in the
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: past game how it might be different. They've been inconsistent
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: with play action. I know they did a little bit
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: more last week, but McKee's a dropback quarterback. There was
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: a mobility that has improved since he was a rookie.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: He was an absolute statue. This guy can't play in
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: the league, can't move. He worked on it clearly. He
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: made progress in OTAs in his second year. But he's
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: not a runner. He's not a scrambler. He could roll
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: out certain things on the move he can do. But
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: I would like to see him under center play action. Yep.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: I want to see it. Be consistent with it. It's
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: West Coast. I don't know why we're not seeing more
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: of this. I'm not saying 50%. Come on. I'm not
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: saying that. But they should be a consistent play action team.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: And they can do it with McKee. He's a dropback quarterback.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: Because people want to know what's the difference. Well, they're
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: trying to have Jalen do some of it. As he
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: would get more comfortable. Unfortunately, he's going to be sidelined
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: a bit. But McKee can do it. He can do both.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: shotgun and under center, but they didn't really do much
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: under center last year. So they could do that with them.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: It would be something else just to see him turn
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: it loose. Right. Get his confidence back. And he's worked
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: with Cooper plenty because they're backups. So it's not like
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: he doesn't, he doesn't know Darius Cooper. Right. And Wicks,
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: you know, I don't know how much work he's had
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: with him being that Wicks is a starter, but he he's,
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: I'm very curious, and they're facing a defense that's not
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: very good. That's without both starting corners. I'm really curious,
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: and the weather's going to be sublime. It's going to
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: be beautiful. Nice fall day. Don't have to worry about
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: weather in this game. Right.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Nice and chilly. I like it.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. I know. It's finally a fall day.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: None of this 80-degree stuff. But I'm very interested to
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: see if he can turn it loose because he hadn't
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: done it in a while, folks. We rarely saw it.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: He looked like he lost his confidence. So don't know
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: what the– I know what they could try with him
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: to move this along here, but I don't know what
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: to expect from him because he has not shown it.
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• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Hertz is out for Sunday. Could be longer. That's a
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: situation we have to monitor. It's incumbent upon the Eagles
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: to A, bring in a backup quarterback, not named Cole Payton.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: They absolutely need, whether it's Dalton or somebody who knows
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: the system, you cannot go into this game with Cole
• 21:05
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• 21:10
  Speaker 1: do this smartly and not just do what you always
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: do and expect things to change. And D, oh my gosh,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: we're only six weeks in and Dak Prescott right now
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: is the only NFC East quarterback who's going to have
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: started every single game for his team. after this Sunday,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: which is unbelievable the way it happened.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: It just goes to show you, if you don't have
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: good depth, you can't compete. The Eagles, through Sirianni's first
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: five years, it's mostly incredible when it comes to injuries.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: My God, it's like the injury guys say, uh-uh, we're
• 21:43
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• 21:44
  Speaker 1: This is insane. Feels like a comeuppance, doesn't it? An
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: undeserved one. It's not like the Eagles did anything wrong.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: They've been... Arch DeNoda coming from University of Pennsylvania and
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: bringing back Tom Hunkley and really straighten this injury thing out,
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: how he did a really good job. And you have
• 22:01
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• 22:04
  Speaker 2: cash spend that we've outlined for three years. And obviously Jeffrey,
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: to be willing to spend more on health and their well-being, obviously,
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: but rehabs and all that. But man, I don't know.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: This has been very strange.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Very strange and a big challenge ahead for the Eagles.
• 22:20
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• 22:21
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• 22:25
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• 22:28
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• 22:31
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• 22:34
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