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Episode 39-John Bond · Johnny's World

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  SPEAKER_00: Coming to you live from the Johnny Packer Eyewear Studios in fabulous Dark Vegas, Mississippi, please welcome our co-host, the best iDoc this side of the Mississippi, BW.
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  SPEAKER_00: And now, welcome a true hero, a CF warrior, whose favorite motto in life is just keep living.
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  SPEAKER_00: Here's Johnny.
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  SPEAKER_02: All right, welcome to a brand new episode of the Johnny's World Podcast.
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_02: This is Johnny here with my co-host BW.
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  SPEAKER_02: What's going on today, BW?
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  SPEAKER_04: Hey Johnny.
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  SPEAKER_04: Just getting into the football spirit here.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_04: It's uh we got a little rain today, so it's not 100 degrees over here.
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  SPEAKER_04: Uh really.
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  SPEAKER_04: Maybe, maybe feels like fall out there.
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  SPEAKER_04: So time to start thinking about football.
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  SPEAKER_04: I think NFL training camp started uh yesterday or today for the Saints.
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  SPEAKER_04: So ready to start talking about some football.
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  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh I'm I'll you know, this time of the year it's getting it's always exciting because football is coming up and you got you got hard knocks.
• 1:21
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know who's on hard knocks this year, but that's always something to look forward to and with the training camp.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then uh and then before you know it, college football will be here, best time of the year.
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  SPEAKER_02: So we're really really looking forward to it.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yes, sir.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, what's uh I know we were on recently and you gave us updates on the johnnypacker.com with the glasses and coffee.
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  SPEAKER_02: You got any new updates?
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh I know you said we we'd run out of the the Oxford brand coffee and we were laughing about that.
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  SPEAKER_02: But any any uh new updates?
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so our guest uh John David last week said, you know, that we didn't we didn't get rid of the Oxford stuff on purpose or something like that.
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_04: He was giving it a hard time, but but we did uh they they don't have the Costa Rican anymore, so the the hottie coffee had to go away.
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  SPEAKER_04: Um I haven't had a chance to go on that there's been a couple new varieties that have popped up, and I probably need to go in there and and pick one of those so the old miss people can have their coffee back again.
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  SPEAKER_04: But uh but anyways, we've still got all kinds of fresh stuff on there.
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  SPEAKER_04: Johnnypacker.com.
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  SPEAKER_04: Go on there, pick you, pick you a roast that you like or two bags, whatever you want to do, and um they will roast it same week you order it, get it shipped to you.
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  SPEAKER_04: It's usually there within a week, and so you're you're drinking fresh fresh roasted coffee as soon as you get it.
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  SPEAKER_04: So it's good stuff, and it obviously goes to a good cause to support us.
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  SPEAKER_02: Awesome.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, y'all, y'all check it out, uh Johnnypacker.com and get you a bag and spread the word with your uh family and friends and co-workers, anybody, any coffee lovers out there, go do it.
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  SPEAKER_02: And if you and then if you still want some glasses, go check out Brandon's store in Collierville and be on the lookout.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like you said last week, uh Mississippi Hour has some stores around town, uh around the state, actually.
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  SPEAKER_02: And um, and you can go in there and try them on your face and see which one works best for you.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I appreciate all your efforts, Brandon.
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  SPEAKER_02: Make this possible and and uh hopefully we can raise some money and have a good cause with everything.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yes, sir.
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  SPEAKER_04: Well, uh, I'm I'm excited about our guests that we have here today.
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  SPEAKER_04: Speaking of football, so you want to go on and introduce him for us?
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know, you know, it's funny.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh we had a guest on last week, uh John David.
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  SPEAKER_02: People call him uh J D, I guess.
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  SPEAKER_02: And you know, people always call me JC.
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  SPEAKER_02: And now we got a guy known as JB.
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  SPEAKER_02: So we're hitting them all up.
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  SPEAKER_02: And there's another guy that I know J D that's named J D and his has a son named J A.
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  SPEAKER_02: So it's pretty funny how it all works like that.
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  SPEAKER_02: But uh yeah, uh we have a great guest today since we're talking about football.
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  SPEAKER_02: You know, football is right around the corner, and we love that, our favorite time of the year.
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  SPEAKER_02: And you know, we love to talk about Mississippi State football.
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  SPEAKER_02: So uh well, this guy is no stranger to uh Mississippi State football, and uh he is a legend uh of all sorts at Mississippi State and Starbucks area.
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  SPEAKER_02: So without further ado, I'm gonna bring on the one and only Mr.
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  SPEAKER_02: John Bond.
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  SPEAKER_02: JB, welcome to the show.
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  SPEAKER_01: Hey guys, how are y'all?
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  SPEAKER_01: Man, y'all y'all got the coffee going.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm waiting on the barley and hops.
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  SPEAKER_01: When are y'all gonna get the going?
• 4:06
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, we need to do that, don't we?
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  SPEAKER_04: See if you see if you can make us some and we'll sell it for you.
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  SPEAKER_01: There you go.
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  SPEAKER_01: I can I'll do what I need to.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, how are you guys?
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  SPEAKER_02: Man, we're we're doing great.
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  SPEAKER_02: Thanks for taking time to join us today.
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  SPEAKER_02: Really, uh, really looking forward to talking to you.
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  SPEAKER_02: I know our listeners are also.
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  SPEAKER_02: So not a problem.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, man, just just tell us what's going on.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean, we everybody everybody knows you're out here, and I'm sure everybody knows your story and everything.
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_02: But um, if you want to just whatever you want to say, man, you just you just tell us what what about how you ended up there, and wherever you want to go, go for it.
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_01: I I like it like that, Johnny, because I usually do it anyway, you know.
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_01: I'll start talking and I'll say what the first thing that comes to mind.
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  SPEAKER_01: So uh yeah, I'm living here in Madison and um uh I was coaching there for a while, but an another opportunity arose and and uh and y'all will be hearing about it.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's been in the works for about uh six months now.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um but how how mummy and I have gotten together and we've put together a group um to help out the uh athletes at Mississippi with all this NIL stuff.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, so um we've we've got um we've got attorneys, we've got investment gurus, we've got um uh IRS guys to help these guys navigate their way through all this because they're gonna, you know, I mean, the IRS just sitting there waiting on these guys not to pay their taxes, and the you know, everybody else is looking for their money, and they're all gonna get it.
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  SPEAKER_01: So we're trying to take care of these guys and make sure they they do the right thing with the money.
• 5:46
  SPEAKER_01: We've got investment guys, we've got, you know, Tim Couch.
• 5:48
  SPEAKER_01: Um, y'all remember him?
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  SPEAKER_01: He played quarterback.
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  SPEAKER_01: He's he is uh uh head funds manager um of about a two and a half billion dollar hedge fund.
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  SPEAKER_01: So so he's the guy that uh and they invest in stuff with like bricks and mortar type stuff, some you know, uh more than more than the um the the stocks and bonds and all that kind of stuff.
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  SPEAKER_01: So uh, but a great guy to invest with.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so we think we've covered all the angles.
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  SPEAKER_01: We we got attorneys to look at at uh the Mississippi law and make sure that we did everything that we were supposed to do.
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  SPEAKER_01: We started a talent agency, how mummy and associates.
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  SPEAKER_01: We uh uh got our agents license and and all that kind of stuff.
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_01: So we're about ready to kick off and and help these guys, you know, take advantage of their name, image, and likeness.
• 6:36
  SPEAKER_01: So that's kind of the main thing right now.
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  SPEAKER_01: And and uh uh, you know, but it's hunting season's coming up, so that may have to take a backseat.
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_02: Man, that's that's really really good, uh, good thing you got going on because man, I I know I mean, if I was a college athlete today, man, I'd be scared out of my mind that I'm gonna do something wrong with the NIL and all that sort of stuff.
• 6:54
  SPEAKER_02: So that's what we needed right there.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah.
• 6:57
  SPEAKER_01: It's funny you mention that, Johnny, because we we actually went up, you know, and and Mike and and and Hal are buddies.
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I've known him since '92 when they were in Valdasta, when they were both coaches in Valdasta.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's how I met them.
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  SPEAKER_01: And uh, so I've known Mike forever.
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  SPEAKER_01: And and uh, but what Hal and I idea was was to make sure that you know, the the big name guys, they're gonna get their deals.
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_01: They're gonna, you know, you know, business people are gonna come to them and say, Hey, would you come sit at my car lot on a Saturday in the spring?
• 7:26
  SPEAKER_01: And I'll give you five grand to come sit and sign autographs and talk to people.
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  SPEAKER_01: So that's but what's also is gonna happen is the guys in the locker room that ain't getting anything.
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  SPEAKER_01: Those are the guys that are gonna may start some rumblings and all that.
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  SPEAKER_01: So Hal and I had this idea and said, look, we're gonna have to take care of the walk-ons, you know, because they'll go out there and they blood, sweat, and tears too.
• 7:48
  SPEAKER_01: Um, uh, we're gonna have to take care of the guys that aren't playing.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're gonna have to take care, make sure that they're at least getting something, you know, that they're at least getting their cell phone bill paid by tweeting out several things a month or whatever it is.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, so that's what we went to do.
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  SPEAKER_01: We went to make sure that the locker room was happy and and everybody there, all the everybody was happy that that's what was going on.
• 8:12
  SPEAKER_01: Well, we get up there for that last spring game, and uh, you know, they had to cancel two of them, then they had finally had the last one.
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_01: We got up there for that one, and uh, we started talking to Dave Emmert, the guy that left and went to uh Arizona, where'd it go?
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  SPEAKER_01: Arizona or anyway, he was a right-hand guy.
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  SPEAKER_01: And we said, Well, who all has signed NIL deals?
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  SPEAKER_01: He looked at us and said, Nobody.
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  SPEAKER_01: I said, What?
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_01: So uh we looked, we said, Dad gum, yeah, these guys need that, but it was for the very reason that you said they were all scared they were gonna get trusted.
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_01: You know, so well we need we gotta get this thing cranking and make sure that these guys know that that this is on the level, this is not under the table.
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_01: There's good we're that was our idea, and that's that's where we're headed.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_01: So we we're we're uh about to we're almost our feet are almost on the ground.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_01: We're the flint stones, you know, with our legs, you know, kicking this, but we're about to hit the ground again.
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  SPEAKER_01: So uh it's close.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's close now.
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  SPEAKER_01: So so we're looking forward to that.
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  SPEAKER_01: And and you know, of course, I've got the family and and and all that here in Madison, and and Emily playing basketball and Parker playing everything that has uh anything that'll bounce in it, um you know, and and and shooting anything that he can.
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  SPEAKER_01: He killed his first deer last year.
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  SPEAKER_01: He was nine.
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  SPEAKER_01: I I tried to tell him, I said, Parker, man, I didn't kill a deer until I was like 15 or 16.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_01: This was South Georgia, there ain't any deer.
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_01: I said, uh 15 or 16, you just killed a about a seven-year-old A-point out there.
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  SPEAKER_01: That was a nice deer.
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_01: And he said, Dad, you didn't kill a deer until you're 15.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_01: I said, Yeah, I was driving a Mustang when I did it.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_01: That's great.
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, but but we're staying busy, man.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_01: We're staying busy.
• 10:06
  SPEAKER_04: Now, so are you uh so working with Tim and Hal?
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_04: So I guess are y'all helping with Kentucky players too, or is it how's that working?
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  SPEAKER_04: Is it a whole SEC?
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_01: Like that that was one of the deals that uh we made with coach, you know, with the guys there, the people in the know, we said, look, we'll only represent y'all.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_01: Now we may represent another non-SEC school, and but we want to represent Mississippi State and Mississippi State Athletics.
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_01: So we said, if if we could just represent all athletics, softball, you know, and I'm thinking this too, you know, cheerleaders don't get much of a of a scholarship either.
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_01: Those girls, and they work just as hard.
• 10:43
  SPEAKER_01: The dance girl, all those people, baseball, they get 11 and a half scholarships for 20-something guys.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_01: So uh softball girls, we've got we signed uh a future Olympian, believe it or not.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_01: Um, she's playing at played at Washington State, but she's transferring to Mississippi State uh for her senior year.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_01: Uh but and it's um uh remember the Klingler uh quarterback at the University of Houston?
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: His daughter.
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  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's his daughter.
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  SPEAKER_03: Oh wow.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so uh she's a really good softball player and she's doing it right too.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_01: She's got a line of bats that has decided to back her softball bats.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_01: Um, she wants to start a makeup line.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I mean, she's you know, she's way ahead of the game.
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  SPEAKER_01: She was ready to go when uh uh coach, you know, mommy knew her or knew Klinger through football and all that kind of stuff.
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  SPEAKER_01: So so it was a good her and for us and everybody else.
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  SPEAKER_01: So we want to represent the university.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_02: Well, that's that's a good good pair right there with you and Al, man.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_02: I that brings back memories.
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_02: I I used to love listening to uh was it QB and Coach?
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: I I was so bummed out when that when that ended, man.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_02: I I look forward to it every day.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_02: Y'all did a good job.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, I had to go work.
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_02: Uh yeah, y'all did a good job with that.
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, I I feel like I feel like this is in good hands, man, with you and hit you and Hal putting it together.
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_01: So he he's he's really done a good job of uh he is more of the uh detail guy.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_03: Uh-huh.
• 12:10
  SPEAKER_01: I kind of I kind of uh you know fly by the seat of my pants if you had never known.
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_01: But uh but it is a combination that Al and I have a good time when we get in get in the car and and uh we get along politically, that always helps, you know.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_01: So it's uh all good.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_01: And five, and and football-wise, you know, you'd think a guy that ran the wishbone, you know, how how would you get along?
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_01: I said, Dad gum, Al, I wish I'd have been playing for you, dad gum.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, I went to the wishbone.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_01: I was but I was going to Mississippi State regardless.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't care if they were running the wishbone or the run and shoot or whatever.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_01: I was going to Mississippi State.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_01: So get along fantastically, so it's good.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_02: So did did Hal did he and Mike know each other from Valdasta?
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_02: Are they coached there?
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they actually I think their their first one was Iowa Wesleyan or something.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then and then they've been together, you know, ever since until the double-A crap at Kentucky, which is a oh yeah.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_01: And he ended up winning that case anyway, just like Jackie Wayne.
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_01: Well, they're kind of figuring out they ain't got much hold on.
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_04: Uh well now you mentioned earlier too, uh, that you're starting you're working on a podcast yourself, right?
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_01: We are.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_01: Uh it's uh Huddle Up with JB and Mr.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_01: Mayhem, and uh we're on YouTube.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_01: We do do it live, which is kind of scary.
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um and it's at seven o'clock at night, which is even scarier.
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_01: You know, so uh uh it's uh but no, it's fun.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_01: We um uh we got you we'll take, you know, we're right now we're taking, you know, people can text in questions, which that's interesting, and I'm glad they're just texting you right now.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but it's uh it was fun last week.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_01: We did our first one this week.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_01: Um, we're gonna have on, you know, my my buddy that I grew up with, the Davis is he's getting inducted into the Mississippi Sports Hall of Fame.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_01: So we're gonna have him on and and uh him and his pretty much his whole family.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_01: Well, except Kermit, because Kermit said Ole Miss, and I said, I'm not having any old miss people on.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_04: I don't blame you.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_01: He knows better than that.
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_01: Uh Kermit Kermit Jr.
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_01: I we just said we'd go with the original Kermit.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_01: And I messed with Big Kerm because you know he was actually actually the original Kermit.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_01: He's older than the Kermit, then Kermit the Frog.
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_01: So, but great people, you know, uh grew up with them down the street, and and Bill and them give me a hard time because when we're growing up, he said, Come on, John, come up here and play basketball with us.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_01: And I said, Man, y'all, y'all, if y'all play Cowboys and Indians with me first, then I'll go up here and I'll play some basketball with you.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_01: So we had to find out either playing army or catching crawdads or or shooting BB guns, and then I'd go, I'd go up there and I'd play.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_02: That's awesome.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I met uh through uh through I worked for many years at the children's hospital in Jackson doing PR and fundraising, and and we were always in charge of the uh champion launch where they picked a kid out from the uh from the state pretty much, and they got to represent Batson for the year.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_02: And uh when uh in 2019, I believe, we had a uh kid from from uh the Oxford area that had uh had down has Down syndrome, and she just he she's amazing.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and so anyway, we went up there when she got inducted for the to be the champion launch, and I got to meet Kermit's daughter, Allie.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_02: Now she's a trip.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_01: Let me tell you now, she will quick.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_01: She will let you know real quick.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, Kermit and I'll get to talking too long.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_01: She said, she'll say, Dad, it's time to go.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_01: It is time to go.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I can tell, I can tell she's quite a character.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_02: I really enjoyed meeting her.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, she is.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, she is.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_01: There's the whole family, man.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_01: I tell you, it's we uh we have got so many stories from back then and and recently, and between my mom, I've I've lost my mom and my dad both, but uh Nancy and Kermit and and Lou and Andy, that's the way it was.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it was them, it was up.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_01: We were up there, they were down in our house and plantation homes, and and it was just uh really good times with really good people.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_01: The whole family just it's it was always fun to be around, and there was never a dull moment.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_01: I promise you that.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_02: I bet that's awesome.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_02: So do y'all give him a hard time about being the coach at Olevis now, Kermigenia?
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_01: Oh man, I tell you what, I've got uh I've got a picture that he says he'll he'll text me every time I'll put it on Twitter, you know, quit tweeting that out, John, quit tweeting that out.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_01: So I it's uh it's a long but look, I'll I'll put it this way their dad was very instrumental in me going to Mississippi State.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_01: And uh there's some stories around that.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_01: You know, Kermit was playing in junior college basketball uh when I was a senior in high school in Valdasta.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_01: So he was in Arkansas.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_01: Bill uh Davis, his younger brother, was still in high school.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_01: He and I were in the same grade.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_01: He was in high school at Starwell High School, and I was in Valdasta, and I had this uh grand plan to uh get Kermit, get the Davises all at my homecoming game, my senior year.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_01: And it worked out.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_01: I'll leave it at that.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_01: And I had them they they flew in uh for the game and I had them dates, and I've still got that homecoming picture with Kermit, Bill, and myself and all three of our dates for homecoming.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_01: Wow, and that's the doubt that he gets quit sending that out.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_02: Quit sending that out.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_02: That's hilarious.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_01: It gets him riled up, so whenever he does something, I'll just send it to him and say, All right, I'm finna tweet it out.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_02: Oh man, that's so good.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_04: Hopefully he's not storing any evidence up for you.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_01: For real.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_01: Uh it was uh it was fun back then.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_01: It was a lot of fun.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_01: But they used to come, I've got pictures of them too.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_01: When uh you know, when I think the year we moved there, that we moved there the year before Disney World opened up, um, down in Orlando.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_01: And my sister was one of the very first people to ever work in Disney World.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_01: She was on the, I mean, she went there, that was her first summer job.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um, uh when she was, I guess, a senior.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_01: She may have been a senior in high school or junior in high school.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_01: And uh uh she went down there, rented an apartment, you know.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_01: We I remember moving down going down, moving her down there, down there for the summer.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_01: I think it was the summer of 71, I think.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_01: And um, and and she promptly wrecked the swan boats in there as soon as she got and they were on rails.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_01: They you didn't even steer them.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_01: She ran going off into the castle, you know.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_01: But anyway, uh the Davises came down and stayed with us in Valdasta for about four or five days.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_01: We got a bunch of pictures from that, and uh uh just uh it's just just good folks with uh good people, you know.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, I can tell that's what that man, that's what it's all about.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_02: That's life right there.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_02: That's that's that's that's what you want.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's creating memories, man, and good stories you can always talk back on.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_02: That's what it's all about.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_01: No doubt.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_01: Had a bunch of fun.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, with football season come up coming up.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_02: Tell us let's talk, let's talk some football, man.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_02: I I I know some listeners want to hear here uh hear about football.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_02: So uh so tell me uh tell me what you think.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_02: What you think about the Bulldogs, Mike Leach, what we got going on this coming year.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_01: I think you know, when he it's it's kind of funny.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_01: Everybody thought, you know, he doesn't have a running game, doesn't have a running game, doesn't have a running game.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_01: Well, he does have a running game, it's just a throwing game.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_01: But uh, you know, when everybody was fussing, you you can you can find a running back, he can walk out and trip over three before he gets, you know, downtown.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_01: And uh I said, well, you can with receivers too.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, receiver, there's receivers here in this town, especially with the way he throws it.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_01: You know, he throws it usually quick, gets it out of there.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_01: Um, uh your offensive line, if it's if it's I'm not saying they are, but if they were, he's got remedies for that.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_01: He's got uh remedies for uh uh not being strong at quarterback.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not saying that we're not.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just saying he's got remedies for the things that kind of get a team in trouble.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_01: But this year, I think we've pretty much got the whole deal.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, we've got guys that can catch, we've used the transfer portal, we've got some guys coming up that that can catch the football.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_01: Um, we've got some guys up front that are that can, you know, that have done a great job offensively.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_01: They know the scheme, they've been there three years.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_01: Um there's a lot of things coming together this year that I think it could really be a good year.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_01: And also considering the things that went wrong last year, you know, we lost games, you know, the kicking game killed us, you know, the refs killed us, but you got to count on that being Mississippi State.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_01: But you know, but they really did last year.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_01: Um so I think there's some things that maybe we got over the hump last year.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_01: Everybody hang in there, and I think Will's gonna have a really good year this year, and uh uh it's gonna put a lot of yardage up and a lot of points on the board.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm really looking forward to it.
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_01: It's gonna be exciting.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_04: It can't be any worse than the refs last year.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_04: So that ought to be at least a game or two for us there.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_01: I think I got my aversion for refs from my mom because we sat, we would sit right at basketball.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_01: When when Big Kern was coaching Mississippi State basketball, we sat right behind the bench every game.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_01: We sat, you know, we're right behind Coach Davis.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_01: And my mama would wear the refs out.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, she was and she played basketball.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_01: She she was she was the athlete in the family.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_01: My dad was the brainiac, my mom was the athlete.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_01: So um she knew basketball and and she really, really got, she was intense.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_01: Let's put it that way.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_01: She was very she was very competitive.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_01: So uh I th but I think we're over the hump ref, I think uh a hump deal, I mean the ref deal.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_01: And I think that uh uh and now that everybody knows that, that knows that the refs can screw you out of game, maybe maybe you'll be able to get over it during a game, you know.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_01: Because sometimes that'll you know, it got us in Alabama in '81.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_01: I throw a touchdown pass to Glenn Young.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_01: And then they call Ken Hull for holding, he's laying flat on his face.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_01: The guy mashed him.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_01: I barely got the ball off, you know.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_01: So uh and they called that back, and that would have won the game.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_01: Um that really that really set the tone for the for the rest of the year.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_01: We were just all kind of galling, man, if we got to battle them and the refs and everybody else.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_01: So and again, then again in the old missed game that same very same year, the pass interference called in the end zone, which was the biggest crock I've ever seen.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_01: Um so you know, we lost the game that way.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_01: So, so I know what it is to be be roughed up by the refs.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_01: So, but I think I think Mike is uh smart enough, and I think he's ahead of the game to where he's gonna have those guys, you know.
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_01: We can't let that get us.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_01: We gotta move on, you gotta move on.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_01: Right, right.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_01: But that's a big part of the game, you got to.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_02: You do, you gotta get your head focused and then move on to the next play because you keep thinking about that, it's gonna affect the rest of the game.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_02: You're right.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_02: So hard to do though.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and it really is.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_01: Now you're eyeballing that dude the whole time.
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_04: Well, this this is kind of a sidebar, but talking about your mom wearing out those refs at basketball games.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_04: Um, when when Johnny and I were at state um from 2000, 2004, you know, we were really good at basketball, and there was a guy uh that set in the Mississippi State section every game.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_04: I have no idea who he was, but anytime something would happen, that guy was wearing those refs out.
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, it would be dead quiet in that hump, and you could hear him yelling.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_04: I have no idea who that guy is, but he's a hero of mine.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_02: Hey, hey, he's still there today.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_02: He's still there today.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_02: Same seat, same seat.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, we called him the owl standard.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_02: He'd get in the middle of the owl and just you know, his wife would always just like, oh gosh, like she'd be like sinking, sinking down in her seat, so embarrassed, and he'd just give it to him.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_02: And he's still there.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_02: The last I didn't go to the game this past year, but the year before, before before COVID and all that stuff.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, he was still there, man, just going full force, you know, just giving it to him.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_02: And that was 20 years ago.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_02: And his wife's still doing the same thing, still sitting right next to him, just just sinking down in her seat.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_02: So, Brandon, he's still there.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_04: Well, if you can get him on the show, you do it.
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_01: No, I don't, and I don't want to.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_04: Uh uh, well, are you planning to to go up there and and uh give it give us some magic to beat Alabama sometime?
• 25:49
  SPEAKER_04: We we need to we need to do something about figuring that out, yeah.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we do.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_01: And um, you know, I you know, everybody I've talked to.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_01: They don't think Mike's the guy that can do it.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_01: They don't think, you know, a wishbone guy came in and beat the bear, which he taught the wishbone too, you know.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_01: So I I'm just thinking that if anybody's got a shot, Mike's got a shot.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, it's just the bad thing is it's hard to, and and we didn't catch Alabama on a down year, they had just won two national championships, and they had EJ Jr.
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_01: and all these guys.
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, you know, they had some studs over there, but um you gotta catch you gotta find some a weak point that they're at.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_01: They've gotta you've gotta find a chink in their armor, you know.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_01: It there's gotta be something that you can pick on.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_01: And I think Mike's the guy that can that can find that.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_01: But he's a student that studies it and he loves it, and and uh I think he'll he'll find out a way to get them.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_01: I'm hoping.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_02: Well, they're they're definitely beatable because look at AM last year.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, they no one thought that was gonna happen, and it happened.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_01: And we beat I mean, that's you know, it's just you know, there was a couple of times um when we were we were close and starble with uh with Fitzgerald.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_01: Um uh that I think they beat us 31 to 29 or something like that.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_01: I can't remember.
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they're gonna kill us.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_01: That was when two of or no two of wasn't playing.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_02: It was Jalen Hurts that year, man.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so man.
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_01: I was fine when they were warming up, and I said, Dad gum, this lefty right here.
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_01: Well, why is this lefty dude sitting on the bench?
• 27:25
  SPEAKER_01: I'm glad he's sitting on the bench.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_01: Oh so I was kind of glad Jalen was in there.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_03: Mm-hmm.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_04: I agree with you though.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_04: Everybody said the lane train was gonna be able to beat him, but I think I think Mike, if we give him long enough, he's gonna figure it out.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_02: I think well, I think you will.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_02: We gotta beat the lane train, though, man.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_02: We gotta do that.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_02: We can't lose three in a row to him.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_01: That's the first, that's the first deal.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he's gotta get that.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, yeah, well, if he gets, he's gotta get that this year.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_03: Definitely.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_01: So uh, so that'll be that'll that'll be a really fun game to watch.
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I I think we're gonna beat him this year.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_01: I really do.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_01: They're you know, they lost their go-to guy.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_01: Um uh they got a couple of guys that are vying for that position.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, we'll see what they can do throughout the year.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, a lot of things can happen, you know.
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_01: A lot of things.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_01: It's uh it's tough to go.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_01: You can't as a quarterback, you can't, especially back in the day, you couldn't go through without having bumps and bruises and nicks and gimps and and you know, and all that kind of stuff.
• 28:36
  SPEAKER_01: But nowadays you got a little better shot at it, but still it's not possible to be at that last game and be at like 100%.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_01: You know, very it's very tough to do, very tough to do, especially in the SEC.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_02: Well, here's a here's a here's a question I want to throw at you.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_02: Since you you were there with Bear Bryant and that those Alabama teams back then, and now we're watching Nick Saban's Alabama's teams right now.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_02: How would you compare the two dynasties?
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I mean, well, what would you think?
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_02: You were there right there.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_01: I I tell you, they're they're very, very similar.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_01: The defenses are just incredible.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_01: The offensive line is always the top of the line.
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_01: Um, they're always gonna have a great running back.
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_01: Um uh and now the thing is, you know, there was a year or two when when Coach Bryant didn't have the quarterback, you know.
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_01: I if I would have gone to Alabama, I would have I would have probably worked my way, you know, I don't know what would have happened, but I I don't I don't think um, and I can't even think of his name now.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_01: He took me out on when I visited over there.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, but the starting quarterback, he he wasn't he wasn't the guy, you know, they they needed that position to to win another national championship, and they didn't have it.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but I that's the difference between Coach Bryant.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_01: He always gets a quarterback, Coach Saban does.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_01: He's always, you know, so I think that's that's the only difference.
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_01: They're very similar every other way.
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_02: Tough to beat.
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, tough to beat.
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_01: But they're beatable.
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_01: They're beatable.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_01: And we've seen it.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_01: When you're up front on both sides of the ball, it it's hard to win.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's hard to beat you.
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_01: Hard to beat you.
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_01: So it's uh you keep it, you keep that going.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's what I would do.
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_01: If I was an NFL guy, if I was an NFL coach, I'd trade uh a first and probably second round pick to get to those to get to the big dudes.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_01: Because one big dude ain't gonna ain't gonna help you.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_01: You need three or four big dudes to come in and play right now, you know.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_01: One big uh Jerry Johnson will help you on the on the left, you know, he'll be a good one, you know, and he'll but you need three or four of them.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_01: You need about three or four second rounders, and you could get that's a good start.
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_03: Mm-hmm.
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's uh that's that's true.
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's a good comparison between the two two dynasties.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_02: They're there.
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_02: Um it's interesting to see how I mean, I guess we're gonna be we're gonna be in the same situation we are right now until Saban retires.
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_02: No telling when that'll be though.
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, exactly.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_01: And I don't know uh with the way things are with with the NIL and and yeah, I I don't know how you overcome.
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_01: I think you're gonna have to use that NIL stuff to make your team better, to at least help in your depth.
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_01: Because that's what's always us, you know.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_01: Our depth, what we had 22 guys almost every year, except my senior year.
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_01: We had 22 guys that could play with you know with anybody in the country, uh, you know, at the beginning of the year.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_01: We had those starting 22.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_01: But man, if you lose one, the difference between that guy and the guy behind him is night and day.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_01: But the difference Alabama loses one, and the guy behind him, it's not it's not a grain's worth of difference.
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_01: You know, there's one guy missed a a study hall, you know, uh, and so he's not gonna start.
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_01: It's something like that.
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_01: They're they're almost identical.
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_01: So that's that's the difference.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_01: That's where we gotta make it up at.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_01: We got to make it up at those second level guys.
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 32:11
  SPEAKER_04: Well, John, this has been great.
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, we really appreciate you coming on today.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_04: Um, and we're I'm looking forward to tuning into y'all's YouTube channel.
• 32:20
  SPEAKER_04: And uh, so remind us one more time.
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_04: You're what nights are you on there?
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's uh it's Huddle Up with JB and Mr.
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_01: Mayhem.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_01: And uh uh it's third, we usually about seven o'clock um is when we start.
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_01: And then uh uh and also I'm on Twitter, of course, at uh John Bond1313.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_01: And um uh that's about it.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_01: I try to stay off the other stuff.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_04: So anybody if you want to submit questions to the show, you just go on YouTube and type in the comments.
• 32:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, that'll do it.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_01: That will do and I'm working on some right now.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_01: I think uh we've got a few that uh we didn't get to last week that um that we're trying to get to.
• 33:08
  SPEAKER_01: So they usually there's some interesting ones sometimes.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_02: I bet they are.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_04: Johnny, you got anything else?
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I don't have anything.
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_02: I I can't thank you enough, John, to getting on today.
• 33:21
  SPEAKER_02: And yeah, I think our listeners will really enjoy uh what you have to say, and they'll tune into your your podcast and and uh check out everything you got going on.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_02: And can't wait to see you up in Starbucks sometime this season.
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_01: Well there.
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_01: Go know John.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_01: Take care, man.
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_00: All right, bye bye bye.
• 33:42
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• 33:46
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• 33:53
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