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Furness Show 7-7: USA loses to Belgium, Joe Sheehan, John Lund · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: They just laid an absolute egg yesterday. I wrote down
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of notes last night. I put them on
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  Speaker 1: my computer and I said, I'm just I want to
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  Speaker 1: throw them away because I'm just going to go off
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  Speaker 1: the cuff here. I'm going to lean on you a
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  Speaker 1: little bit too. We'll get to that in a second.
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  Speaker 1: John Lene's going to join us at two o'clock today,
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  Speaker 1: and then Joe Sheen at one twenty talking all things
• 0:18
  Speaker 1: baseball at the Mariners. I was asking Greg this a
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  Speaker 1: minute ago. You were there last night. I was yesterday
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  Speaker 1: afternoon at five o'clock Anders in the stadium, and he
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  Speaker 1: said it was a little bit more subdued the crowd
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  Speaker 1: was Was that Belgium kind of taking taking the US out?
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  Speaker 1: Was it too many randos that really aren't diehard fans
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  Speaker 1: just had the money to pay two thousand?
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  Speaker 2: And was it a combination.
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  Speaker 1: Thereof How would you describe the atmosphere for Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: mean for me, it was my first World Cup game,
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  Speaker 1: so I can't compare it to much.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, like Greg, but I will say when the US scored,
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  Speaker 3: it was about as loud as I've.
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  Speaker 2: Ever heard it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I've been there. I was there for the
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  Speaker 3: NFC Championship game for the Seahawks. I was there when
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  Speaker 3: the Rashichi he took the kickoff return against the forty
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  Speaker 3: nine ers in the divisional game, and it was just
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  Speaker 3: as loud.
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  Speaker 4: I'm telling you, it was just as loud.
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  Speaker 3: But because of how the US started, even before Belgium
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  Speaker 3: scored that you could tell that this team was just
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  Speaker 3: not ready. And when it comes, I think, specifically with soccer,
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  Speaker 3: you have to have something to cheer about, right, It's
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  Speaker 3: it's not the audience's job to get the players ready
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  Speaker 3: to play. They respond to the energy that the players
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  Speaker 3: are giving them and then they keep keep it going.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: The players didn't show that whatsoever.
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  Speaker 3: You could tell in the first thirty seconds that they
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  Speaker 3: weren't ready to play this game. And I told looked
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  Speaker 3: right beside me to Jackson Felt who was sitting next
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  Speaker 3: to me, and I was like, they don't look ready,
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  Speaker 3: they look scared.
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  Speaker 4: They look like the moment's too big for them.
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  Speaker 2: That's the key.
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  Speaker 1: That was what that's that was the part that I
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  Speaker 1: kind of just watching with a couple very casual young
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  Speaker 1: guys that are casual fans, just US fans, right, and
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  Speaker 1: we were all talking it's just it. That's what it
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  Speaker 1: felt like. It felt like the moment was too big.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 1: I was talking to Greg a little bit about this
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  Speaker 1: too on and off the air. The entire Balligan situation
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  Speaker 1: ends up being, I think, in a lot of ways.
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  Speaker 2: A detriment to the US in two different ways.
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  Speaker 1: And Nico Moreno brought this up yesterday with Greg, you
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  Speaker 1: and Jackson and I brought this up and we did
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  Speaker 1: our segment yesterday on the show. Would this be a
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  Speaker 1: rallying cry for Belgium? Would it unite them? Because it
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  Speaker 1: really was kind of like everyone not named the United
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  Speaker 1: States thought that Belgium was done wrong by baligin being
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  Speaker 1: eligible to play. And we saw the Belgium coaches comments
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  Speaker 1: on Sunday about the April Fools and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: He obviously used it to his advantage. The team was
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  Speaker 1: more motivated, and then I just it looked to me
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  Speaker 1: like the US was a team that felt And we've
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  Speaker 1: seen this in sports all the time. You get complacent.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, wow, we got our guy back. We should
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  Speaker 1: be fine, Like we'll just be able to kick back. Relax,
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  Speaker 1: Baligan's gonna save ease into this game. We're a we're
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  Speaker 1: playing at home before the most raucous crowd in in
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  Speaker 1: the in the United States, rivaled only by Mexico. And
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  Speaker 1: and we'll be able to see what happens, right, And
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  Speaker 1: so all those things made it look like just on
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  Speaker 1: the surface on television, and you were there, you can
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  Speaker 1: tell me on that it made it look like this
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  Speaker 1: team just wasn't on the same level of emotion as
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  Speaker 1: their opponents were. And that's a really dangerous thing in
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  Speaker 1: any in any competition, but especially when you get to
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  Speaker 1: the highest of high levels like that the World Cup.
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  Speaker 1: The best players in the world motivated beyond belief. Every
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  Speaker 1: pass was tentative, nothing with conviction. Guys that really are
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  Speaker 1: over there. The two MLS players are the two worst
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  Speaker 1: players on the field. I've never seen a center back
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  Speaker 1: posterized like a guy getting dunked on. Yeah, but that's
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  Speaker 1: what happened. That's an embarrassment. There's just no excuse for that.
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  Speaker 1: And then your goalkeeper commits an unforgivable error on the
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  Speaker 1: most simplest of plays. Your goalkeeper, who is the worst
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  Speaker 1: goalkeeper in recent memory in US World Cup history, we've
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  Speaker 1: had elite ones. That's the one thing when the team
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  Speaker 1: wasn't as good we had elite.
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  Speaker 3: Ones against Belgium, saves World Cup record.
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  Speaker 1: I'll go back our own Casey Keller elite world class goalie,
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  Speaker 1: Tim Howard, elite world class keeper, Brad friedel elite world
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  Speaker 1: class keeper, and their backups oftentimes were better than this guy. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: Marcus Hahneman was a third string guy. He's better than
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  Speaker 1: any of these guys. I don't know why Matt Turner
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  Speaker 1: wasn't playing. That's a that's a question. We want to
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  Speaker 1: talk about how great the coach is and renewing his contract.
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  Speaker 1: I thought his decision making was horrific at times. Is
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  Speaker 1: roll Dane healthy because that midfield needed help yesterday and
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  Speaker 1: maybe that deep into the tournament you're not going to
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  Speaker 1: play him. Probably should have played him before if he
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  Speaker 1: was healthy. I don't know. There's a lot of things.
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  Speaker 1: Here's the here's this is this is what I want
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  Speaker 1: to get to and I want your thoughts on this, Andrews.
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  Speaker 1: And also four nine four or five to one, because
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  Speaker 1: we're going to kind of put the World Cup to
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  Speaker 1: bed from the US standpoint tonight, let me take one
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  Speaker 1: quick side step. We're not putting the World Cup to
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  Speaker 1: bed like what we just saw with Argentina and Egypt
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  Speaker 1: was remarkable, and that's that's what that was remarkable.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, we'll get into it, I'm sure, but
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  Speaker 3: Argentina started the game very similar to what the US did.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm wearing my Argentina jersey those of you watching
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  Speaker 3: on the YouTube, obviously it's my second team.
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  Speaker 4: My wife's from there. Da da da.
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  Speaker 3: But that makes me even more pissed about what happened
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  Speaker 3: yesterday because Argentina went down to zero to Egypt. It
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  Speaker 3: looked like they were just sleep walking through the game,
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  Speaker 3: and they still were down to zero in the seventy
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  Speaker 3: ninth minute and they clawed themselves back into it. I
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  Speaker 3: saw zero fight from the US men's national team.
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  Speaker 1: And that's the thing, Like, yeah, it just to the
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  Speaker 1: tournament goes on. I'm still gonna watch it. You're gonna
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  Speaker 1: watch it, and I think a lot of people are
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  Speaker 1: gonna watch it, because really, now you're kind of cutting
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  Speaker 1: through the chase like you're getting the best of the
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  Speaker 1: best is left.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, every single game is really good.
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  Speaker 2: And which is cool.
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  Speaker 1: And if you've enjoyed the tournament so far, I'm guessing
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  Speaker 1: you haven't just enjoyed because the US Games I'm assuming
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  Speaker 1: that a lot of people have found themselves enjoying other
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  Speaker 1: games as well. I know I have and it and
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  Speaker 1: it's I'm excited for all these matches. But you're right
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  Speaker 1: with the US. I think you needed to look no
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  Speaker 1: further than their opponent. They were down two nil last
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  Speaker 1: week in the round of thirty two and they came
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  Speaker 1: back to win.
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  Speaker 2: So where was the fight from the United States?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, man, where where was it?
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  Speaker 1: And I'm with a lot lawless and a lot of others,
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  Speaker 1: this isn't a hey raw ra, we got the nation
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  Speaker 1: fired up.
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  Speaker 2: For three weeks.
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  Speaker 4: I agree.
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  Speaker 1: This is a colossal disappointment yesterday and really just not
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  Speaker 1: advancing further than the round of sixteen in an expanded tournament.
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  Speaker 1: Mind you, this isn't the old days. It's an expanded
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  Speaker 1: tournament and you couldn't get out of the round of sixteen.
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  Speaker 1: I just and just seeing that team, multiple things can
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  Speaker 1: be true. One of those things is this. They came
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  Speaker 1: out and gave our country a rallying cry.
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  Speaker 2: For a few weeks.
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  Speaker 1: People that were not soccer fans became fans of that team,
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  Speaker 1: if not the sport, but mostly that team.
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  Speaker 2: I get that.
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  Speaker 1: They brought the country together, the country that's as divided
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  Speaker 1: as it can be. They brought cities together, especially ours,
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  Speaker 1: it's been as divided as can be. Everything was positive.
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  Speaker 1: It's still about the results on the pitch, still about
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  Speaker 1: the results on the field, and.
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  Speaker 2: The results were not good enough.
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  Speaker 1: They're no better than all these past teams outside of
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  Speaker 1: O two, right, so like they're no better yet they
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  Speaker 1: had better talent, at least on paper they did, and
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  Speaker 1: they allegedly had a better coach. Maybe through the first
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  Speaker 1: four games they did not yesterday he didn't have him ready.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't have him ready.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was.
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  Speaker 3: I was very much on the I was pissed at
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  Speaker 3: Poach right after the game. And I'm as big of
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  Speaker 3: a Poach defender and fan as there is in the game.
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  Speaker 3: Danny Jackson, former Sounder captain, by the way, during the
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  Speaker 3: USL days he played at Leeds United in England, he
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  Speaker 3: kind of talked me off the ledge on that one
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  Speaker 3: because he mentioned, you know, it's one thing to have
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  Speaker 3: a couple players that aren't ready and then you can
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  Speaker 3: tactically adjust right as a coach, But when everyone looks
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  Speaker 3: like they're just a deer in headlights, what is a
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  Speaker 3: manager supposed to do. You shouldn't have to motivate these
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  Speaker 3: guys when they're playing a Round of sixteen World Cup
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  Speaker 3: match on home soil in that atmosphere. What is a
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  Speaker 3: coach supposed to say to you if you're not motivated already?
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  Speaker 1: That's the thing, is like, I think that's the most
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  Speaker 1: disappointing thing, got it? You know, And those guys are
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  Speaker 1: somewhat insulated from it, so they're not necessarily walking you
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  Speaker 1: walk down onto that field right right. What I would
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  Speaker 1: just say is like, like if you I don't know
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  Speaker 1: where they came.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't.
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  Speaker 1: I never saw the bus. Usually we see the buses
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  Speaker 1: go down up Edgar Martinez Way. Never saw it yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know how they got there into the
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  Speaker 1: into the battles of lumen. But it must have come
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  Speaker 1: the other way. But I mean, if you were driving
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  Speaker 1: down First Avenue South like NFL teams do, and drive
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  Speaker 1: in there, you would have seen the thousands of fans
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  Speaker 1: outside of all the restaurants and bars and parking and
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  Speaker 1: running around, and like, God, I can't believe this is
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  Speaker 1: gonna be unbelieve. This is so different than the other
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  Speaker 1: place we're gonna play I'm already, I'm fired up, I'm
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  Speaker 1: ready to go. It was just an absolute, absolute disaster.
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  Speaker 1: And I think there's also the thing and I think
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  Speaker 1: what really upset me, what really pissed me off as
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  Speaker 1: someone who really enjoys the game and wants to see
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  Speaker 1: the game grow in our country, not just at the
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  Speaker 1: youth level.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get to that later.
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  Speaker 1: It's like all of a sudden it's a new thing
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  Speaker 1: that soccer is expensive and youth sports are expensive like that.
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  Speaker 2: Like I I.
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  Speaker 1: Blame most of our fellow media people that have no
• 10:20
  Speaker 1: clue or don't have kids or whatever they're doing, they
• 10:22
  Speaker 1: didn't play sports when they grew up. I mean it's
• 10:24
  Speaker 1: been going Listen, We've had Select Soccer since I was
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  Speaker 1: a kid in the seventies. Yeah, all right, Sale United
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  Speaker 1: started Sales Select started back in the seventies.
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  Speaker 2: Like, we've had a Select back then. We had one
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  Speaker 2: like one.
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  Speaker 3: Team, Emerald City was nineteen seventy nine, I believe is
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  Speaker 3: when it was founded.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we've it's so like we've had this
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  Speaker 1: has been going on for a long time.
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  Speaker 2: This isn't a new thing.
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  Speaker 1: And we also, by the way, survive other sports, you know,
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  Speaker 1: with costing a lot of and I'm not condoning. I
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  Speaker 1: think it's garbage how much we have to pay for
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  Speaker 1: youth sports. But you know, baseball and not keeping the
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  Speaker 1: US from being the best in the world. Baseball is
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  Speaker 1: more expensive than soccer. Yeah okay, yeah, hockey is too,
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  Speaker 1: and hockey's double probably what soccer is. Guess what, we
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: just want an Olympic gold medal? And are we not
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: the best baseball country in the world if we put
• 11:10
  Speaker 1: really put our best guys out there, like I'm sorry
• 11:12
  Speaker 1: Venezuel and everybody else, if we really put our best
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  Speaker 1: teams out there, come on.
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  Speaker 2: If we're not the best, we're in the top two
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  Speaker 2: or three.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, not that we're not that in soccer,
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  Speaker 1: absolutely not so. But what And that's what disappoints me
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  Speaker 1: because I think we had an opportunity here for the
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  Speaker 1: game to really kind of take a step forward in
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  Speaker 1: our country. The world couple come again in four years
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  Speaker 1: not here, but it's not here. And the visuals of
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  Speaker 1: this tournament gave us so much excitement momentum you wanted
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  Speaker 1: to be a part of it, whether you were at
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  Speaker 1: a game or outside the match, or on a waterfront
• 11:46
  Speaker 1: or hell, you could be sitting in North Dakota, but
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  Speaker 1: you're probably in a bar watching the game with a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of people, were having friends over It brought this
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  Speaker 1: country together, and you excite, you were excited about it.
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  Speaker 1: You lose two to one or three to two yesterday
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  Speaker 1: and put up a hell of a fight. Yeah you well, okay,
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: you know what, on the surface, we haven't taken a
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  Speaker 1: step forward. The result isn't any better than it has been.
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  Speaker 1: But you know what, in the end, you got edged
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  Speaker 1: out by a team that was just a little bit
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  Speaker 1: better than you that day. But you put on you know,
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  Speaker 1: the shots were not you know, eleven to two in
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  Speaker 1: the first half. When it's all said and done, it's
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  Speaker 1: an even game. Possessions equal, but shots are equal, saves
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  Speaker 1: are equally you know, like you know what a close
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: game looks like. That was never a close game. When
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  Speaker 1: the US did have some momentum in the second half
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  Speaker 1: and was pushing forward at two to one, your goalkeeper
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  Speaker 1: made an error that should that you just can't ever get.
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  Speaker 1: You can't walk that back ever, and I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: hate to just keep going after it, but that's just
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  Speaker 1: you're just not good enough. And if that's your best
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: keeper in the United States of America. You got a
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  Speaker 1: massive problem US soccer. You have a massive problem. I'll
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  Speaker 1: take Andrew Thomas over him. Yeah, he competes, also plays
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  Speaker 1: a ball with his feet, way better, way better. Did
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: you notice how reluctant the US was to play the
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  Speaker 1: ball back to him.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you see every other team use their goalkeeper
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  Speaker 3: as like that's a passing option.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I thought, Like, I think you and I
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  Speaker 1: even mentioned I think we talked about this maybe off
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  Speaker 1: the air early on. Yeah, like they are very reluctant
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  Speaker 1: to play him the ball.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, they are.
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  Speaker 1: Today's soccer isn't when I played. When I played, I
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: just pick it up. Yeah, they changed that rule. You've
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  Speaker 1: got to be skilled.
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  Speaker 2: He's not.
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  Speaker 4: No so.
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  Speaker 1: But the disappointment for me was that you had an
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  Speaker 1: opportunity as a country, as a national team, to do
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  Speaker 1: something that just really elevates the game to the next level,
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  Speaker 1: and you just absolutely came out and yes, everyone said
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  Speaker 1: we played our worst game, Yes you did. You know
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: what your worst game should have been, Turkey? Yeah, Instead,
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  Speaker 1: your worst game is on the biggest stage with the
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  Speaker 1: entire country watching, and you just were a no show,
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  Speaker 1: almost to a man, you are a no show.
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  Speaker 2: But I think you said it really well.
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  Speaker 1: If one or two guys, if Polistic's just going to
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  Speaker 1: be an absolute zero, which he is.
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  Speaker 4: And then asked to be subbed off in the second half,
• 14:10
  Speaker 4: and we'll.
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  Speaker 1: Get to him in the second half. If people missed it,
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: Carly Lloyd, the great US women's player went.
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  Speaker 2: Off on him last night.
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  Speaker 1: But if it's one thing, if Polistics just got awful,
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  Speaker 1: or maybe him and one other guy. But when your
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  Speaker 1: entire team is a no show on that stage, you've
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  Speaker 1: done more. Honestly, I think you did more harm than good.
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  Speaker 1: I think I'm not sure time will tell. The problem
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  Speaker 1: is the only two players that are playing in this country,
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  Speaker 1: right are your god awful center back and you're horrible keeper, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: everyone else is playing over those are only two MLS
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  Speaker 1: players that played. I mean Christian didn't play. So with
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: that said, did you do more harm than good? I
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: don't know, maybe, but what happened yesterday in Seattle was
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  Speaker 1: unacceptable on every level, and I don't know if it's
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: ever gonna get corrected.
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  Speaker 2: Anders.
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  Speaker 1: I really don't, because this was your opportunity. You're on
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  Speaker 1: home soil, You've got the home field. You've got players
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: that have decided to play here, they've foregone another like
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  Speaker 1: Ballian like others. I could play here, I can play,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna play in the US all that, and you
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  Speaker 1: come up with that.
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  Speaker 2: It was just a really just a bomber man.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just it was I kind of one of those nights,
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: like you know, like football season hasies. Everyone knows this,
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: Like at football season, like there're Saturday nights or Sunday
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: nights that you go to bed and you're just pissed
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: because the Seahawks lost or the Huskies lost, or the
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: Cougars or whoever your team is lost and you got
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: to wait for another week and you're just sitting on
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: it and you're as a die hard sports fan, you're pissed, right,
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: you guys all know that feeling.
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  Speaker 2: You're mad.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well four years, we.
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: Have to wait four years, and I have no confidence
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: in four years it's going to be better. I just don't.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: I hope I'm wrong. I hope I'm a thousand percent wrong.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: But what would give you hope that they're going to
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: be utter.
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: Well, I think the first four games that's a different
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: And look, I'm miss just as frustrated as you are
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: from the way it ends, and in these big tournaments,
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: it's the last game that everyone remembers, obviously, whatever that
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: looks like, and it sucks that in the biggest moment,
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: the entire team wilton under the pressure. There's a difference
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: between good players and big players. The US has good players,
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: they don't have big players, and you saw the difference
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: in that yesterday with Belgium. I actually think the US
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: a better team still, like if you look at Man
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: a man, they're a better team than Belgium. But because
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: Belgium has had guys in the big moments that have
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: come through and we're obviously ready to play. That's that
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: shows you the difference in the game and the mentality.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: But I still think while this stings, will a year
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: from now, a couple months from now, we'll look back
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: on the full tournament. And Danny said it last night,
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: I think it's two steps forward, one step back, so
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: a net positive, but definitely a huge missed opportunity. I
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: still think the big thing for me is I wanted
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: US soccer to be taken seriously from the rest of
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: the world, and unfortunately they still can't.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: I think that's the other thing. You know, we joked
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: around yesterday and had some fun US America and the
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: whole Balligan thing. The reality is is that like you
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: should first of all, you should thrive in that situation.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: If you're a top level athlete playing at the highest
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: of levels. You want to be the team that everyone
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: doesn't like. You want to be the team that people
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: are pissed off at. You want to be that team.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: You want to embrace that villain role, especially when you're
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: playing wait for it, at home, and you didn't. There
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: wasn't a pass made with conviction ever.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: Just compare and we'll talk a little bit more about
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: this later on the show. But compare the US's performance
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: yesterday to Belgium to Mexico's performance versus England. Yes, they
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: both lose the game in the same round, both at home,
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: so different. But Mexico's guys were gassed at the end
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: of the game. They looked like it could barely walk.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: And because they liked everything on the field.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: Well, no reason they didn't win.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: You know the reason they didn't win that is because
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: the goalkeeper for England, Pickford, was marvelous. Yes, like he was,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: he was hockey term standing on his head.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: But even when you have bad days, you make mistakes,
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: you're it's it's not working out for you. Offensively, you,
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: Danny said this yesterday, you can at least run, yes you.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: There was no urgency, no fight, no desperation. They didn't
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: win one one on the US one B one. They
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: didn't win one and not one. And it's again, it's
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: not just a few players here and there. I cannot
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: find a positive performance from yesterday, whether it was one
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: player or the entire team.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: That's awful.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: All right, four nine, four five one. That's the coming
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: downs checks and we'll come back. Carly Lloyd said something
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: that needed to be said, and I'll get into the
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: Fox broadcast too. I didn't need to I didn't need
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: to get European to death after the game.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, don't tell me that, even if it's true, Lovey Stuholden,
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: don't tell me that.
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: What a run for the US. Yeah No, I don't
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: need to hear that right now.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: If they didn't get to this point, it would have
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: been the even more of a colossal faith. Yeah yeah,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: all right, we'll hear from Carl Lloyd next.
• 19:07
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• 19:10
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• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Colombia coming up here at one o'clock. They all take
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: on our The winner takes on Argentina in the quarterfinals.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: So US loses. We'll get to some baseball and some
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: of the things coming up later. We want to wrap
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: up this next couple segments. So Carli Lloyd, the Great
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Carli Lloyd from the US women's national team.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Is on the panel. Not nearly enough for my good.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: I want more of her.
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: In my opinion, she's the best US women's player of
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: all time.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: And she might be the best analyst. She's the US
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: right fantastic.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: She's really good, really good, really really good, far better
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: than every person that's not from this country.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Decided to trash our country on Fox last night.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: Finally they gave her a chance to speak, and she
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: said what a lot of us were thinking, allegedly, your
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: best player is anything but that.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: No.
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: Look, you know it's a.
• 20:06
  Speaker 7: Bit of a downer for us being out here now
• 20:08
  Speaker 7: after this loss, but I just I felt like they
• 20:11
  Speaker 7: lost the game before they even stepped out under the pitch,
• 20:14
  Speaker 7: and I'm not sure why, and I don't know the reasons,
• 20:17
  Speaker 7: but just from the beginning, just chasing tentative scare just
• 20:21
  Speaker 7: not confident on the ball, and I think big time players.
• 20:26
  Speaker 7: You wanted some of those big time players.
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: To step up in big moments.
• 20:31
  Speaker 7: And I gotta be honest, you know, it was a
• 20:32
  Speaker 7: bit disappointed with Christian Bulisik. I think whether he wants
• 20:35
  Speaker 7: to be the star of this team or not, we
• 20:38
  Speaker 7: didn't see enough of from him in this particular game,
• 20:41
  Speaker 7: and really the whole World Cup, little glimpses here and there.
• 20:44
  Speaker 7: But you know, look, aside from this loss, I think
• 20:49
  Speaker 7: on the brighter storyline, it's been.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: A fantastic World Cup.
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: This team has united the country.
• 20:56
  Speaker 7: They have you know, gotten American fans call in love
• 21:00
  Speaker 7: with them, and there is a bright feature. But this
• 21:03
  Speaker 7: is just a real disappointing loss to go out on here.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean she's right in a sense, they did
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: they did unite the country. It's and they gave us
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: a lot of fun for the last three or four weeks, right,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: But it goes out with an absolute dud, And you know,
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: your best players have to be your best players.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: And if Christian polistic is.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, we I know what she's saying, Like, you know,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he wants to be this, he
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: has to be, you know. And if you don't want
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: to be just turned down the invitation to play for
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: the national team, give that spot to somebody else because you, you,
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: quite frankly, are maybe one of.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: He's the most talented player in US history. And it
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: was talented doesn't mean the best.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: And maybe the softest. Yeah, I hate that urnam in
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: sports because a lot of times we talked about this
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: and I always laugh people that player soft talking about
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: a hockey player or football player in a contact sport,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, really like that's they aren't as maybe
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: hardened as some guys on the on the field or
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: ice or whatever. But soft is kind of a hard
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: a harsh term. He's soft.
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: There's different ways to look at it.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: He's soft, He's he's just soft, mentally soft, mentally soft,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: physically soft, doesn't compete, doesn't make a difference. And you're
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: telling me he's the and I'm asking you this in
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: all sincerity. You're telling me he's the most talented player
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: we've had, I think, so yeah, wow, well then I
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: have no confidence this team's, this program can move forward.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Like if that's the if that's the gold standard for talent,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: you can be talented. Maybe a hard maybe unfair because
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: he's gonna go down as one of the best of
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: all time. But but damn man, what Messi did today. Yeah,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: that's the difference. Like like he just he reached down
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: and said.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: He and he was playing poorly in this game. Lionel
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: Messi was, and you know, I hate to, you know,
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: compare everything to Argentina, but it's just one right after
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: the other. Right they they started the game just as
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: bad as the US did in this one when they
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: were down to zero to Egypt, a worse team than Belgium,
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: by the way, defending world champions, and they still they
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: showed fight and they clawed back. They were not taking
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: a loss as an answer, and you didn't see any
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: of that from the US. And the most disappointing thing
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: for me Ian is how big the gap was in
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: the US's level of play in the Round of sixteen
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: game versus every other game up until then. The US
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: the reason why everyone had quote unquote fallen in love
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: with this team. Why everyone thought that this team felt different,
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: it felt better than you know, we've ever really been,
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: to be honest, is because of how they played in
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: those first four games. They absolutely dominated Paraguay, a team
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: that beat Germany and took France to the brink. They
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: beat Australia, who could have easily made it to the
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: round of sixteen as well. They lost to Turkey using
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: all their subs, but still were able to claw back
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: in that game multiple times, right, and then to show
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: the fight the tactical awareness to after you get a
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: red card see off a game in a knockout stage
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: match again against Bosnia in the round of thirty two,
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: it felt like this team had something different, and in
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: their biggest moment, they wilted and they looked completely different,
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: like like they just forgot what they were all about
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: for the entirety of that match. So I just don't
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: know why there was such a big difference in their level.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: So let me throw this at you and and our
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: listeners as well. Four nine, four to five one Did
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: last night ruin it for you? As far as your
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: perception and how you feel about the US soccer team?
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Did it ruin for Did one match ruin it for you?
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Four nine, four to five one. I'll be honest right
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: now today, not even twenty four hours removed my answers.
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: Yes, it's hard to say. It's hard to say.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: No. My answer is yes, yeah, I thoroughly enjoyed it
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: over the last few weeks.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: Did you feel like it was different before that game?
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I did. I thought I thought that the coaching
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: had made a difference. I've told I told you my
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: concerns though. I mean, I think I asked.
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: You you're on a goalkeeper all along.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Also I was also on ream, was I not? I
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: asked you about him and Jacksonville, and you guys both said, well,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: they're the two MLS players. That's so like that kind
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: of just come up with that yesterday, and you know,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: I like, but I thought you could overcome that. Yeah,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: I thought you could get there. And listen, there's you know,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: there's there's a there's questions about you know, every player
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: on every team that's going to the quarterfinals. There's like,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: oh what about this guy? There's gonna be a week link.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: You're always gonna have weak links. But for me, yeah,
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: just I think the the it's not just the result.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: I could live with the loss yesterday. It's how they
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: got there, und I totally agree, and that's what ruined
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: it for me. That's what that's what just soured me
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: on this experience. I agree, it's unacceptable effort.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: If you had lost two to one battle till the end,
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: uh just were one play short or something like that,
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: I would feel Honestly, I feel like I would feel
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: completely different. Yes, devastated, but still like in my mind,
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: I'm like looking back, like, hey, we have something to
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: build on for the future here because of how freaking
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: bad it was and how they just no one showed
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: up and it felt like no one was ready for
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: the big moment.
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: That's why it hurts that much more.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: You know, Carli Lloyd, who's a two time FIFA Player
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: of the Year, not just US FIFA, like like one
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: of the best players in the history of the game,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: and she said, I don't know why. I can't understand
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: why they came out flat basic, So that that just
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: tells it. That's on those guys. I think they I
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: think I just think they got complacent. I think they
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: I think they read the headlines. You know, hey we're
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: gonna you know, we're they they were, they had become
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: a really big deal in this country in a very
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: short amount of time.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: People didn't know their names, and they did.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: They drank the kool aid, and I think they just
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: became They lost their edge, is what they did. They
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: lost their edge because the lord, wow, if you did
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: that in high schools, so there's a damn good chance
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: you'd get pulled. And they put the backup in even
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: at that backup prize, they didn't do it in this game.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: Even if the backup's a twelve year old freshman, I
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: don't care. That's just an awful agree. But they didn't
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: want to play the ball to him. Yes, that's on
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: the coach too, Like if you because you're in today's
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: soccer you're playing with eleven. Yes, you're not playing with ten. Right,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: he used to be playing with ten. Now you play
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: with eleven and you're not playing with eleven with him.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: But I just think get the bigger issue. Then there's
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: the whole thing yesterday. I just I'll get into this
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: real quick. Actually I'll do the next segment. I think
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: for the most part, Fox did a pretty good job.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: I thought they did our country a massive disservice. Last night,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: and I know you guys are doing the post game.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: I should have switched over, but the hell, but I
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: think they did it. I think they did our country
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: a massive disservice yesterday. Well, I'll wrap up the hour
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: and then move on to baseball next.
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: Now back to Ian Furness on your home for the
• 27:52
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• 28:03
  Speaker 1: All right, Uh, we spend a little bit of time
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: tomorrow on some bigger picture things, including our city. And
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: now that we put a wrap on the Seattle events here,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: we'll do that tomorrow.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: I just to put a ball on things. First of all.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: Four on that is the to come a dotch text line,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: a lot of good text coming. Did did last night
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: ruin your perception of how you felt about the US
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: men's soccer team?
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: I one thing I just want to Our women's team
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: is elite, elite.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and the Women's World Cup is next year, right,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: and there's talk about it. I think the next one's
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: twenty thirty one is here or is in the States,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: I believe, or it's going to be worth check. But yeah,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: there's talking about games being played here. If they're not
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: being played here, there's a problem. There's just a problem, period.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: But they the Women's the Women's World Cup, they are
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: US Mexico because they haven't announced the venues yet. So yeah,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: they need to be here. There needs to be games here, period,
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: and a story. I just don't even shoulting made a consideration.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: I know there's a couple of trolls out of Portland
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: that are chirping today about Seattle. That's fine you first, yeah,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: I'll off to show you the guys that cover the
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: timbers and the rain or the thorns and all that.
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: What are they saying, Well, the only time.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: You see a full looming field is a Seahawk game
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: or the US men's national team. Like, well, first of all,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: I think the Sounders average ten thousand more per game
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: than you guys do. Yeah, so you can just pounce
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: in and if you're gonna start bringing up NWSL numbers,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: I have no time for you. But uh, Fox, I
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: think is done a decent job so far with the covers.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: It's a massive undertaking. Whether it's our station as the
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: flagship for the Huskies of the Kraken or Fox the
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: flagship for soccer in this country. Remember, they're taking a
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: world feed, but their broadcasts are here. They're not for
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: the rest of the world. They're not for Canada or
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Belgium or they all have their own people doing during shows.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: As mad as I was last night at the result,
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: the last thing I needed. I did not need to
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: have basically three non Americans and Alexi Lawless for the
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: first twenty minutes of the postgame show reacting to it.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: That's the last thing I needed. Where's Rob Stone, Where's
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Landon Donovan, Where's Carly Lloyd? Where's Clint Dempsey? And while
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: we waited for everyone to trash the US, which that's fine,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: I want I want to trash the US.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: I don't want you, as a foreigner, to trash the US.
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: Hello.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: That's why, that's how it works. I can trash people
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: in my house. You can't. Just a massive disservice. I
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: don't need to hear whatever her name is, Rebecca Lowe,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: what's her name? I don't need to hear her. Where's
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: Rob Stone? Worse, I wanted to hear Clint Dempsey, Landon Donovan,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Carl Lloyd, Alexi Lawless period of story, US Legends Americans USA.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Can you imagine having a Husky postgame show? And and
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: all right, you know, here we go. H Kenny Wheaton
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: is on here with uh, with Dennis Dixon. Dennis, what
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: do you think of the Husky's performance or worst yet?
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: How him on a pregame show? Let's hey, let's check in, right, Hey, hey,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: Dennis Dixon, Demand Williams is suspended, but the NCAA overturned it.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: What do you think of that?
• 31:29
  Speaker 8: Well?
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's just egregious. And okay,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: that's the Husky Football Network. You would never do that. Yeah,
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: you trashing your own team on your broadcast is weird,
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: very weird.
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, let's bringing John Lunn for the Seahawks pre game.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: Exactly, John, what do you think?
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  Speaker 9: Uh?
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: You know, Devin Witherspoon was suspended, but President Trump gave
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: a call. So John, what do you think should they?
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  Speaker 9: Oh?
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: I think it's just awful decision.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, that's the Husky that's the Seahawks pregame show
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: with John Lund longtime San Francisco host.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, Actually, you know what, he would actually
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: like it because he's a closet Seahawks fan.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: I'm still he actually he actually would say nice things.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: He'd say a lot nicer things. The only good thing
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: about the post game. On a much lighter note, oh
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: my god, I felt bad. They have Levigne and Mayofski
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: doing the local stuff. Oh yeah, Aaron and Aaron. First
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: of all, that's hard because someone tossed back all right, Aaron,
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: back to you and they both stood there and they
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: which one which one. Couldn't hear anything. They didn't have
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: headsets on. They just had a little IFB in there.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: That's impossible. You can't hear anything. My man, Ethan's out there.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Mcgreel's like he's They told him to interview random guy.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: He enters the he found the drunkest person that went
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: to the game and interviews him. I was entertained by it.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: It was the highlight of the night.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: Interview. Let's go to Ethan. Who you got?
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: I got a drunk guye with me? Okay, let's go
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: to you right now. Let's go to Ethan. You're on Hey,
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: I'm here with drunk guy. What do you think of
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: the game? And oh, Jack Sparrow standing behind you, Well,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: where'd that guy come from? That was the only entertaining
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: part of the broadcast was drunk guy getting interviewed and
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: then tossing back to back to you erin well which erin?
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: I'm more both gonna stand here. I was like god,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: the train wreck though of the Europeans trash in our
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: country afterwards was the worst, and I just I didn't
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: get what they were doing. We deserve better, as a guy,
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: let our guys trash our guys, because honestly, it should
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: have been a game of that magnitude that should have
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: been all hands on deck, all us and especially with
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: what happened, I want to hear what Landon had to say.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: I want to hear Clint Dempsey had to say. Carl
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: Lloyd Alexi Lawless gets drowned out by dipstick.
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: From France or wherever he's from, Sierry Henri.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: I'm done with him, like he gets drowned out by him,
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: which is probably pretty hard to do, but he does.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: Just a bad night, you know what, No more thinking
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: about matter, Just a bad night all the way around.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: For me, it just it ruined.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: The US World Up experience, and the story didn't Now
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: it did not ruin the World Cup experience for me. Like,
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: I'm I'll be totally honest with you. I'm distracted here.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: I don't even have juice on this game. I have
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: no juice on this game. Normally I would Columbia, but
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: I'm watching Oh. I want Columbia to win bad.
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: They have fun fans, fun teams.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: Well in Switzerland decided they wanted to pile on.
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: I forgot about that.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: For the first time in the history of Man's non neutral.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: They decide that they're gonna take a side. Okay, you
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: take Belgium side. Go Columbia. Hopefully the cartels got them
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: jacked up. We got some Hopefully the blow was full
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: in a BC place beforehand.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: We got the white powder going. Cut that stuff up.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: Let's go.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: And beat the hell out of that team with the
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: stupid white cross and pound sand.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: Done with you, guys. I'm done with Henry. It's not okay.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: I could deal with him.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: He just he's got kind of the Charles bar You
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: have a blind like lot. Alexei Wallas tries to be
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: that guy sort of with outspoken stuff.
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: Just looks at him like, what are we doing here?
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Here's the Barkley doesn't care. He just doesn't care. He
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: doesn't know any players, whether it's the NCAA term of
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: the m. He doesn't know any. He knows like five guys.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: He doesn't care. That's kind of that. I just think
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: it's it's like, okay, what'd you say? I don't care
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: entertaining all right, we're doing with soccer for now, four nine,
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• 35:30
  Speaker 1: We'll transition over to a little baseball. Mariners start a
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: series against the Marlins tonight. They go, uh Miami for
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: a couple and then they had to beautiful Tampa at
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: Bay take on the Rays. I'm checking the standings real quick.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: You'll be pleased to know both team's pretty good.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: What do you got?
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  Speaker 1: Belgium last night of the Round of sixteen World Cup
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  Speaker 1: is over for the US. Earlier today, Argentina completed an
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  Speaker 1: incredible comeback down to nil and the seventy ninth minute
• 36:13
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  Speaker 1: to that. Let me shout out to you guys real quick.
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  Speaker 1: I listened yesterday at four point thirty to the pregame
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  Speaker 1: show that you and Jackson and Danny Jackson did pre
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: Fox broadcast of the game, and then you guys obviously
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: did stuff halftime in postgame. I just just a tip
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: of the cap to both you Jackson and Danny Jackson
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: that was in it.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: Listen.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: The amount of preparation was evident. The passion you guys
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: have for the sport but also just for the broadcast
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  Speaker 1: came through on the radio and flying colors. We're in
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: a tough world sometimes in the world of radio these days.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: All our good friends. Shout out to our friends north
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: of the border. Sports Net six point fifty went bye
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: bye today, the last remitting sports radio station in Vancouver, BC.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: A lot of us here on the station. Greg myself,
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: I think Softy too did stuff for guys like Halfred
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: and Bruff and others up there. Thomas Trantz tough world,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: that we live in these days. Good radio sometimes it's
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: hard to find. You guys did great radio. You think
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: any good radio. Yesterday you did great radio, and you've
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: done all the tournament. It continues, by the way through
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: the rest of the World Cup. But last night was
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: special because you guys were at Jimmy's on First doing
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: a pregame show for the US team on American Radio USA.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: God bless, and you're doing that for about one hundred
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: plus stations across the country. It sounded awesome. Jimmy's in
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: the background was cool.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: As Jackson and you both mentioned, just steps outside Seattle
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: Stadium aka Loominfield. I just thought you guys covered every
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: base needed from lineups like Belgium did't even put the
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: best lineup on the field. I know, I said it's
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: gonna be doing with soccer, But what's going on there?
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: I think they thought they went younger and more athletic,
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: and it showed they you know, were faster in the
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: game and they're kind of older generational players that they have.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: They could bring off the bench and cut off the game,
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: which is what happened.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: Or just put a fourth goal in just for fun. Yeah,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: just for fun off brand soccer Lebron. When Lebron comes in,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: I'm watching with a couple of airlines. I know I
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: was allowed to come like football players. And he comes
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: in and they're like, what the hell Lebron James is
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: playing soccer? This guy whatever his name is, Yeah, he's
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: a he's a beast man.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: Holy cow. Yeah.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: Cat comes in there and' like, yeah, I'm gonna score
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: for By the way, okay again, I know you were done.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: I'm not. Can't they just fix the timing?
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: Oh god?
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: Now it didn't matter because the US was god awful.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: No, yeah, there has never been less stoppage time in
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: a World Cup game this tournament. Then the four minutes
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: we got, which was more than enough for goal number
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: four to be scored, but really a four minute, like
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: four minutes stoppage time.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: I mean, let me ask you this. If there was
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: twenty minutes, do you think the US scores.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: Well, not after they scored the four, if they went
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: But it's like, I think, honestly, they're so mentally that
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: US team was so obviously so this is this is
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: just an assessment and an assumption, but I think it's
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: backed up by what we saw. They're so mentally fragile, fragile, Yeah,
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: that I do believe. I think there was something to
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: looking up. I'm I mean there's been a minimum five.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, because it's automatically three for the water breaks, right,
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: don't stop the clock.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: And they scored a goal. Yeah, and it's four. Yeah
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: you look, you look over a goal four?
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: What I think at that point that like we're done.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, we're probably done anyway, but we're really done now.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: And then they score a moment like a minute later
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: or so whatever probably thought that, right, have a kickoff
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: when they probably probably thought that from the start. After
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: we'll we went a great job by you and John,
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: thank you, and we showed up. It was our World Cup.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: No broadcast tonight, right, No, that's her last game's being
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: played right now next on Thursday, Thursday.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: Okay, France Morocco. Good game, France Morocco. Big game. And
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: then you guys will continue doing all that for the country.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: And yeah, I think we I think we have all
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: four quarter finals, both semifinals in the finals, so.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: Okay on ninety three, I think yeah, yeah, I know,
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: because I got a day off or two, which.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: I look at you thrilled about I don't get one,
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: but no, you don't.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: You go back to work. Listen, I'd say you get
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: time off. I say, maybe you get some some like
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: Softy gets time off during hockey season. Yeah, but in
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: that football season, Thursday, that football season, A lot of seasons. Yeah,
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: he gets all those times off. I'd say hockey season,
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: but a lot of times you're working hockey season.
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: So I get a week off after the World Cup.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: So I'm excited, very good, Okay, all right, Mariners. Mariners
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: have a great tough road trip coming up. No, Julio
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: more than likely. I heard Gary hill on earlier and
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: that at all with Greg Bell didn't make the trip.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: He may end up being showing up in Miami. They
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: may try to get him on the field against Tampa.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: I think you know, Greg brought up a really good
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: point with Julio. It's like, well, concussion head whatever, why
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: wouldn't you just send him out?
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: And this is not.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: Me point this out. If just in case Justin Hollander
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: is listening, this is not an indictment on the training staff.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: He's kind of surprised, wouldn't you if he plays against Tampa?
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: Like when you just let's just get this guy ready
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: to go like the second half. But Gary had a
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: great point, and I think it is worth mentioning the
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: standings are so bunched up and we all know what
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: starts to look like in August and September, right, how
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: like every game doesn't matter, And I don't want to
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: be the hypocrite because you and I talk about this
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: all the time. Anders those games in April and may
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: count the same as the games in July, August and
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: September do. So you do want your best players out there,
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: and you'd want Julio out there, but we'll see him,
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: and Gary didn't seem to be too optimistic about seeing
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: him before they all our break And that's fine because
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: dom Canzone just keeps hitting the ball and other guys.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: So you're you're okay, and that playing well in his
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: instead one of one of the best moves ever.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so too, Like they picked Robless up
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: off of Waivers and and let me just double check here,
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: Washington Nationals. Yeah really, like, how do you just cast
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: that dude to side? He has has Victor Robles not
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: been a contributor every every day since he's been here,
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: the only time he doesn't contributes when he's hurt. Yeah,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: Now he does get hurt a lot, he does, but
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: not his fault. Like I mean, I go back, was
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: it last year the long recrashing the wall in San
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: Francisco and people kind of give him a hard time
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: about it.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: I'm like, no, he'sying.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: We just spent an hour talking about lack of compete
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: from the US men's national team.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: He was playing yesterday, he would be flying around the
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: victor compete.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: Yes, he beats his ass off, but yeah, I mean
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: he's been great and all. And then I mean, listen
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: to the pitching staff over the last week six days.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: That's the pitching staff that I'm used to seeing has
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: been lights out right, just absolutely lights out. So they
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: got that big they got the big series coming up.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: We'll talk to Joe about that. Miami's good and they're
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: kind of surging lately as well. So it's a tough
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: one to get going on for there. For the Marrior's
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: hitting it. And I didn't get a chance to talk
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: to you about this yesterday All Stars only one and
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: it was Randy You okay with that?
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: I mean, if I'm talking like justice, like who deserves
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: to go? Randy definitely does. I don't know if anyone
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: else does. On offense at least. Yeah, we talked about
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: them all WAP. I don't think so. Yeah, I don't
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: have it an obvious like, oh, he deserves to be there.
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: You could give a shout for maybe maybe Brian Woob.
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: He's had a couple of bat outings.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: I don't think you can because of what he's done
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: on the road. Yeah, I think Bryce Miller, but he
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: hasn't pitched him, hasn't pitched him yet, So I mean
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: Bryce Miller. Bryce Miller has pitched like an All Star.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: He hasn't pitched enough. Yeah. It also makes me even
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: easier not to watch the game because I don't care
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: at all in terms of that game.
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: Well, there you go.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: But I think the odd thing is this. You have
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: a team that's leading this division. Yeah, is arguably the
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: most talented team, and it's not just this division, but
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: probably like the second or third most talented team in
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: base in the American League. And they got one All Star.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: Which here's what I wanted to bring this up. This
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: is a silver lining. Does that not tell you that
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: this team still has a lot left?
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, they a lot left.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: There's a very much a they have sleep walked through
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: the entire first half of the season. I know we're
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: passing that, which is its own issue in its own right, right,
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: but you can also expect there to be better things
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: to come, not just it would totally expect there to
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: be better things to come. And I think that's the key.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: And that's because when we talked about on Malliwop yesterday
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: and we got just kind of Molliwop got washed aside
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: a little bit by all the soccer conversation, rightfully, So
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: one of the things that we kind of just glossed
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: over was just that, like this team, if you would
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: have said back in March or spring training, hey, we're
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: going to get to the All Star break and the
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: Mariners are going to have one all starts Randio rose Arena,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: I'd be like, oh, and then they say what would
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: what what do you think the standings look like right now?
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: I'm I would have guessed at that point, probably maybe
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: we're the Maybe we're the A's are forty nine two
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: three four games out as fields are forty five and
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: forty eight, maybe like three four games under five hundred.
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: I'd say five hundred. Round was what you would expect, and.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: They're three games over. Yeah, I mean Col's not Col's
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: not an All star. Juio's not an All Star. And
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: none of your starting six pitchers in your rotation are
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: all stars. And I'm like, yeah, well they're not even
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: close to They're probably not even sniffing first place right now.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: And here they are game in a half up on Texas.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: So all right, we'll get to all that. Well, get
• 46:40
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  Speaker 1: And Josh and Joshian Newsletter joined US right now, as
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  Speaker 1: So big bigger's news for Joe she And what was
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  Speaker 1: bigger for you this week? The the wedding of the
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  Speaker 1: century in your town in New York City or men's
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  Speaker 1: national soccer team games.
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  Speaker 11: You know, it's funny because I would say, of both
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  Speaker 11: of those entities, Taylor Swift and US men's national soccer team,
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  Speaker 11: I pretty much feel exactly the same about both of them.
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  Speaker 11: Where it's like I have no animals me but I
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  Speaker 11: don't really care one way or the other. I like
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  Speaker 11: to shake it off as much as the next guy.
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  Speaker 11: And well, you know, I respect really good athletes, but
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  Speaker 11: soccer doesn't do a tounch for me. I've mostly been
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  Speaker 11: picking on the World Cup over the last couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 11: But yeah, it's just I would say neither. I would
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  Speaker 11: say Chris.
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  Speaker 2: Daughter up winning the Uh oh, there you go.
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  Speaker 11: That was probably got more of my attention.
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  Speaker 1: You know what, I kind of well, I love I
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  Speaker 1: love a little golf too, so I've got the Scottish
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  Speaker 1: Open this week as well, so our guy Joe she
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  Speaker 1: and joining us. Were you invited to the wedding? By
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  Speaker 1: the way, were you part of the Madison Square Garden continue?
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  Speaker 11: I turned it down to watch Chris.
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  Speaker 2: Good call. That's a good call. Probably in your partner,
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  Speaker 2: it's a really good call. That's awesome.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, I want to ask you about something. We haven't
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  Speaker 1: brought this up ands. I don't think we've brought this
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  Speaker 1: up in the last couple of days. The uh it's
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: one of those weird news items that kind of flies
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  Speaker 1: under the radar. But a bunch of Major League umpires
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  Speaker 1: are going to be done at the end of the season.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think that that is?
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  Speaker 1: Cebe Buckner obviously is in the crosshairs of a lot
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  Speaker 1: of you know, fans over the years, but as well,
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  Speaker 1: who had I think a really bad weekend last weekend
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  Speaker 1: right behind home plate? Do you think that is a
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  Speaker 1: direct result of the abs and we're starting to really
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  Speaker 1: see guys that are good and aren't good.
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  Speaker 11: I don't think it's that. When I looked at the names,
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  Speaker 11: and I can't say I look everybody up, but the
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  Speaker 11: names all work familiar to me, and what I would
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  Speaker 11: say is that means that they've been around a while.
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  Speaker 11: This seems more like an effort to clear out older
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  Speaker 11: umpires than necessarily doing it by quality of umpiring member.
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  Speaker 11: We only have ratings for ball strike calling, and I
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  Speaker 11: saw a lot of people. Oh, they were all fifty
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  Speaker 11: three and below. Right, But there's more to umpiring than
• 49:34
  Speaker 11: calling balls and strikes. There you know, you only calling
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  Speaker 11: balls and strikes once every four games. There are a
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  Speaker 11: lot of other things that go into being an umpire.
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  Speaker 11: I looked at this list and said, this is an
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  Speaker 11: effort to buy out older umpires to get younger, just
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  Speaker 11: something I'd wanted MLB to do for a long time.
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  Speaker 11: I proposed, god a thousand years ago, that MLB umpires
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  Speaker 11: be paid twe million dollars a year, but that if
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  Speaker 11: the job be ten years max, so that you wouldn't
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  Speaker 11: develop these guys who thought they were bigger than the game.
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  Speaker 11: I have grudges lasting for twenty twenty five years. Now.
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  Speaker 11: This isn't that, but it is does seem need an
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  Speaker 11: effort to say, look, we're gonna get a younger group
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  Speaker 11: of guys in here, and if that makes ABS easier,
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  Speaker 11: if that makes eventually moving to full ABS easier, I
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  Speaker 11: think that's a positive as well.
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  Speaker 2: I mean the guy's retiring c B. Buckner.
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  Speaker 1: I mentioned los Ds Brian o'nara, Lance Barksdale, Marvin Hudson,
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  Speaker 1: and Tony Randazzo.
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  Speaker 2: Andy Fletcher's the other one.
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  Speaker 1: When I saw the list, I knew, I knew Diaz,
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  Speaker 1: and I knew Cebe Buckner. I didn't know the other names. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I am very much more of a casual fan than
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  Speaker 1: say you are who does it for a living. But
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  Speaker 1: I started thinking about it feels like back this is
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  Speaker 1: a god, I'm gonna date myself, Joe'm gonna be that
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  Speaker 1: guy back in the day. Back in the day, didn't
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  Speaker 1: we know more of their names. But I think it's
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  Speaker 1: what you just said is because it felt like you
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  Speaker 1: knew the guy that was going to have a grudge
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  Speaker 1: or the guy that was going to be confrontational. Umpires
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  Speaker 1: have never had their names in the back of their jerseys.
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  Speaker 1: Hockey referees did for a while. Basketball referees we knew
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  Speaker 1: the football repe we never That's funny thing with the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the referee, you don't know anybody else. You
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  Speaker 1: don't have the line judge, the umpire, any of that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: But it feels like what you just said is very accurate,
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  Speaker 1: more so in the past with baseball, where we get
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  Speaker 1: to know these guys because it's like, Okay, that guy's
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  Speaker 1: going to go out with Earl Weaver, or that guy's
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  Speaker 1: going to go out with, you know, with Sparky Anderson
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  Speaker 1: or whatever. And I'm really dating myself now, I get that,
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  Speaker 1: But you know what I'm saying, Like, it does feel
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  Speaker 1: like there was a lot more of that grudges that
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  Speaker 1: were held for years.
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  Speaker 11: There were fewer of them too. I mean, there are
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  Speaker 11: best and we have more players now, we had fewer
• 51:30
  Speaker 11: umpires back in the eighties and seventies. Also, to umpires
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  Speaker 11: had a moment, and I guess you trace it to
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  Speaker 11: the Luciano books. Ron Luciano was an umpire in the
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  Speaker 11: late seventies. Ear ladies. Certainly you mentioned Weaver, so I
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  Speaker 11: know you.
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  Speaker 2: Know who he is.
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  Speaker 11: And he wrote a book that Empire Strikes Back, and
• 51:44
  Speaker 11: they did a couple of sequels to it, and he
• 51:46
  Speaker 11: became a bit of a car I want to say
• 51:47
  Speaker 11: he showed up in a maybe it was him or
• 51:49
  Speaker 11: somebody else showed up in a beer commercial and Miller
• 51:51
  Speaker 11: lighte commercial. You know Joe West used to get.
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  Speaker 2: At pub, Yes I do, Yeah, I remember the beer commercially.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah it was.
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  Speaker 11: They had a moment, I think, is how I would
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  Speaker 11: describe it. And yeah, you go back to what was
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  Speaker 11: it ninety nine when there was a lead a labor
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  Speaker 11: dispute and they all quit, and then they'll be basically
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  Speaker 11: said okay and moved on to another group of umpires.
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  Speaker 11: I think there was almost a toss shift there to
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  Speaker 11: where Okay, maybe these guys aren't that special, so we
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  Speaker 11: don't need to pump them up. There's no West or
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  Speaker 11: Luciano or even you know, maybe it a Doug Doug Geting,
• 52:20
  Speaker 11: So who's a Doug Harvey in today's game. There's just
• 52:23
  Speaker 11: no personality, and personally, I think it's a lot better.
• 52:26
  Speaker 11: A lot of people get mad at me because I
• 52:27
  Speaker 11: tend to dunk on umpires a lot, but I think
• 52:29
  Speaker 11: the umpire should be seen and not heard. Every time
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  Speaker 11: I see an umpire yell at a player, I think
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  Speaker 11: that guy's doing it wrong. That's what the money is for.
• 52:36
  Speaker 11: They want to yell at you, yell you, you take it,
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  Speaker 11: and you move on to the next call. You don't
• 52:41
  Speaker 11: see it a whole lot, but you will say you
• 52:42
  Speaker 11: see umpires like a player will mount something, walk them
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  Speaker 11: back to the dugout, and the umpire will like chase
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  Speaker 11: after him. And that's a level of behavior I really
• 52:50
  Speaker 11: don't like to see an umpire. So if we get
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  Speaker 11: a less recognizable group of umpires, I'm perfectly fine saying
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  Speaker 11: that's good.
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  Speaker 2: For the game. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we all remember Jim Joyce because of the
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  Speaker 1: unfortunate situation right that happened with him. The guy that
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  Speaker 1: I was kind of I thought might be on there,
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  Speaker 1: Bill Miller, has been an umpire since ninety seven in
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  Speaker 1: the American League. And the only reason I know him
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  Speaker 1: this is how old this guy is. I did a
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  Speaker 1: story on him his first year umpiring in the Northwest
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  Speaker 1: League up in Everett, when I was working at a
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  Speaker 1: TV station at Como TV in Seattle, and that would
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  Speaker 1: have been in like nineteen eighty nine.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sorry, nineteen ninety.
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  Speaker 1: I only know because it got an Emmy nomination, which
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  Speaker 1: we lost, one of my miny Emmy losses. But but
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  Speaker 1: Bill Miller like he's been a ount, he's sixty years old,
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  Speaker 1: like I'm Bill Miller.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, sorry, I was gonna say Bill Miller called nine strikes
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  Speaker 11: while he was telling that story.
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: He is that way right, like.
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  Speaker 11: He and Doug Eddings call everything a strike.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: He wants he's got dinner reservations. Man, he's got stuff
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  Speaker 1: to do. He's got to get out there. Well, he
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: got Jim Joyce and all that. So yeah, I just
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  Speaker 1: wondered that if there's any correlation with the abs, you know,
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  Speaker 1: because now it's a good point.
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  Speaker 2: I thought about this.
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  Speaker 1: You can probably be god almost like a like a
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  Speaker 1: baseball player in a sense.
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  Speaker 2: There's baseball players we know this.
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  Speaker 1: Hell, we had a shortstop here forever that couldn't hit
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: anyone elsewhere in ol Marvis Kel right, great fielder couldn't
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  Speaker 1: hit a lick. Now it became a better hitter as
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: the years went on. You could probably have a guy
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  Speaker 1: that's great in the field calling you know, outs on
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  Speaker 1: the bases right, whether it's a force out or a tag,
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: but maybe struggles behind home plate. That's a pretty hard job,
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: like you're doing something different every single night.
• 54:28
  Speaker 11: By the home play up fires, go to third base,
• 54:30
  Speaker 11: after they call the plate because that's the easiest thing
• 54:32
  Speaker 11: to do on a ball field. They are on a
• 54:33
  Speaker 11: whole lot of plays at third base, it's mostly fair
• 54:35
  Speaker 11: foul calls, and then they go to first, second in hall.
• 54:38
  Speaker 11: That's the rotation usually. I will say that, you know,
• 54:42
  Speaker 11: it's also about managing the gaming. Again, Wed to narrow
• 54:46
  Speaker 11: this down to how well you call balls strikes. But
• 54:48
  Speaker 11: there is something to the idea of magic game. It's
• 54:50
  Speaker 11: not as hard as it used to be in the
• 54:52
  Speaker 11: you know six, when guys would go after each other
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  Speaker 11: with baseball bats on the field, or fans would throw
• 54:57
  Speaker 11: glass bottles at the umpire. It's not like that anymore.
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  Speaker 11: But yeah, this is something to the idea of keeping
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  Speaker 11: the game moving, controlling the game rules. Things will come
• 55:05
  Speaker 11: up all the time. I mean, you know, there are
• 55:07
  Speaker 11: things that are going to go. This is why I
• 55:08
  Speaker 11: would never advocate for eliminating umpires in fact of anything.
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  Speaker 11: What I want to do is add umpires. I think
• 55:15
  Speaker 11: umpiring crews should be five men large, should be four
• 55:17
  Speaker 11: guys on the field and one guy in the booth.
• 55:20
  Speaker 11: And instead of going to New York, we have a
• 55:22
  Speaker 11: fifth umpire who buzzes down and we eliminate challenges, and
• 55:26
  Speaker 11: there's a fifth umpire in the booth with the job
• 55:30
  Speaker 11: of saying, hey, wait a minute, guys, we got to
• 55:31
  Speaker 11: look at this again. That's still the system I want.
• 55:33
  Speaker 11: I want more umpires, not fewer of them. And guys
• 55:35
  Speaker 11: could rote or you can either rotate through that or
• 55:38
  Speaker 11: you could turn that into a sinecure for veterant umpires.
• 55:40
  Speaker 11: I gets to forty five years old, Okay, now you
• 55:43
  Speaker 11: will have five years of the replay.
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  Speaker 2: Empire, would you? Okay? I like that.
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  Speaker 1: Now I'm curious as far as the replay system. It's
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: not the ABS system that the battery or the catcher uses,
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: but you would say, instead of instead of looking down
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: on a close play at the at first base or
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: a tag at second, instead of looking in the the
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: cutaway that comes from the camera crew. Okay, there's there's
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: Dan Wilson. Is he's looking back. He either says no,
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  Speaker 1: waves his hand no where he puts his hand on
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  Speaker 1: his ears and say replace. So instead of doing that,
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: you take it out of the manager manager's hands and
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: just put it upstairs completely.
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  Speaker 11: I don't think the players and managers should offic shape
• 56:16
  Speaker 11: the game. And that's why I'm against the challenge system.
• 56:18
  Speaker 11: That's why I've always been against the challenge the replay system.
• 56:21
  Speaker 11: I think the umpires or your you know your replay
• 56:25
  Speaker 11: system should officiate the game because I want to take
• 56:27
  Speaker 11: tactics out of the calling the game. In other words,
• 56:31
  Speaker 11: top of the first two outs, a guy is obviously
• 56:34
  Speaker 11: safe at first, but you don't want to burn your
• 56:35
  Speaker 11: challenge on it because challenges have a value and you
• 56:38
  Speaker 11: will well, I might need that in the seventh inning
• 56:40
  Speaker 11: or later. I want that completely out of the game.
• 56:42
  Speaker 11: Let's get the call right and not make it about leverage.
• 56:45
  Speaker 11: You know the play that everybody hates, the runner steel
• 56:47
  Speaker 11: second pops off the bed a little bit and he
• 56:51
  Speaker 11: ends up getting called out on replay because the umpire
• 56:53
  Speaker 11: didn't see it, but the replay does see it. Now
• 56:55
  Speaker 11: I don't have that big a problem with that because
• 56:58
  Speaker 11: you know slide better. Yeah, on a basis binary being
• 57:01
  Speaker 11: on a basis binary, either you're an auditor or you're not.
• 57:03
  Speaker 11: But the only reason that play gets looked at is
• 57:07
  Speaker 11: because of the challenge system. An umpire in the booth
• 57:11
  Speaker 11: whose responsibility is to the game as opposed to trying
• 57:15
  Speaker 11: to win the game, is just going to let that go,
• 57:17
  Speaker 11: it's going to say, you know what, that's not something
• 57:18
  Speaker 11: we should be revealing. I think that's that play that
• 57:22
  Speaker 11: everybody hates. Isn't a function of replay, It's a function
• 57:26
  Speaker 11: of the challenge system, because in a challenge system, you
• 57:29
  Speaker 11: don't really care about the call being right. You care
• 57:31
  Speaker 11: about the call being good for your team's.
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: I think soccer and FIFA could learn from that too.
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: I want to instead of using var every you know,
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: for stuff they're not supposed to use it for. Along
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  Speaker 1: the way, let's talk about when a perfect game should
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: be completed or a perfect game should be aborted.
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: Joe A. Should we talk about what happened last week
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: with the Marlins?
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, I think I'm on the wrong side of this
• 57:53
  Speaker 11: for a lot of people. I was perfectly fine with
• 57:55
  Speaker 11: the decision. Obviously you want to see a perfect game.
• 57:58
  Speaker 11: We're all baseball fans. But you know CLAYT. McCullough's responsibility,
• 58:01
  Speaker 11: the man Meyers manager isn't too Joe Shean or you
• 58:05
  Speaker 11: know baseball fans who, quite frankly, a lot of them
• 58:06
  Speaker 11: couldn't have told you who Uri Perez played for at
• 58:08
  Speaker 11: two o'clock in the afternoon. So a lot of people,
• 58:11
  Speaker 11: a lot of casuals and non baseball people jumping in
• 58:13
  Speaker 11: on this, but when you actually dig in on the specifics,
• 58:17
  Speaker 11: Euri Perez has never thrown more than one hundred and
• 58:19
  Speaker 11: two pitches at a start, So the fact that he
• 58:21
  Speaker 11: was at ninety two through seven innings isn't really great
• 58:23
  Speaker 11: information because he's going to need at thirteen innings, thirteen
• 58:26
  Speaker 11: pitches an inning. He's gonna need the other twenty six pitches,
• 58:28
  Speaker 11: which takes him up to one eighteen and that's if
• 58:30
  Speaker 11: everything goes well, you know, And I think taking him
• 58:32
  Speaker 11: out in the seventh is important because let's say you
• 58:34
  Speaker 11: send him out there for the eighth and there's a
• 58:37
  Speaker 11: bunch of foul balls and he needs sixteen pitches to
• 58:39
  Speaker 11: get through the ending. Now you're sending him out for
• 58:41
  Speaker 11: the ninth and one hundred and eight pitches in the
• 58:44
  Speaker 11: highest stress situation probably he's ever pitched him to try
• 58:46
  Speaker 11: to throw for a perfect game. That's why I think
• 58:48
  Speaker 11: the seventh inning was the right call. Perez lost a
• 58:51
  Speaker 11: little velocity in the seventh. He say his third start
• 58:54
  Speaker 11: coming off a leg injury. He had Tommy John surgery
• 58:56
  Speaker 11: two years ago, and again he's literally never thrown a
• 58:59
  Speaker 11: pitch in the eighth inning in his life, so everything
• 59:03
  Speaker 11: pointed to pulling him at you know, ninety two pitches
• 59:06
  Speaker 11: after seven innings. And I understand the frustration there, but
• 59:09
  Speaker 11: you know, this isn't a typical Marlins team either. They're
• 59:12
  Speaker 11: trying to get into the playoffs. They actually leave the
• 59:14
  Speaker 11: al card race at this point. They need fifteen more
• 59:18
  Speaker 11: starts out of yur Perez they need And even if
• 59:21
  Speaker 11: you know, let's say that the marginal well bake a
• 59:23
  Speaker 11: point here. The most risk any athlete is at is
• 59:27
  Speaker 11: when he's expending himself when he's tired. And if Perez
• 59:31
  Speaker 11: goes these extra two innings, he's sewing high stress innings
• 59:34
  Speaker 11: when he's tired. So the pitch count notwithstanding, it's just
• 59:37
  Speaker 11: that's when you're adding risk. How much risk would you
• 59:40
  Speaker 11: accept for Let's say, if I tell you if we
• 59:43
  Speaker 11: can quantify this, we're guessing. I know I'm making numbers
• 59:45
  Speaker 11: up here. Is it one percent? Is it two percent?
• 59:48
  Speaker 11: Keep in mind that his chance of actually getting the
• 59:52
  Speaker 11: perfect game was something along the lines of twenty five percent.
• 59:55
  Speaker 11: So how much injury risk is worth it? How much
• 59:59
  Speaker 11: bad performance in the future is worth it? To have
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 11: this guy complete the possibly can play a perfect game. Member,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 11: it's not guaranteed he's going to get a perfect game,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 11: So it's an attempt at it.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: I think that you know, we're even anders. Who was
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: it last week? Was it Gilbert that had a chance that.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 11: Came out, came out with a one hit right Miller?
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but he had a chance at a complete game?
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 8: Right?
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: I think which Marriers haven't had a complete game since
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty three? And I remember watching this and they
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: gave him a chance in the eighth inning. Was Miller
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: wasn't a Miller?
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah? It was Miller's Millier.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know they kind of gave him a
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: chance to get to the to the I did get
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: a complete game. And Joe, again, I'm referring to old
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: umpires in Earl Weaver a moment ago like that used
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: to just be commonplace. Now it's like, man, I got
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  Speaker 1: a complete game. That is a massive, massive deal. The
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  Speaker 1: game has changed, right, So, like those types of opportunities
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  Speaker 1: don't exist that often. But as you mentioned, and I
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: think this is what the Mariners are thinking right now
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: with a lot of things, is one or two games
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  Speaker 1: can make all the difference in the word, and you're
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: almost always thinking macro as opposed to micro.
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  Speaker 11: Right. And a lot of it is we don't develop
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  Speaker 11: pitchers to throw complete games. I did this thing maybe
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  Speaker 11: last winter where I looked at the Baseball Prospective's top
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  Speaker 11: one hundred prospect rankings, and most of these pictures didn't
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  Speaker 11: even throw one hundred and thirty X in the year.
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  Speaker 11: But you can't develop pitchers to throw two hundred INNX.
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  Speaker 11: You can't develop pitchers to throw into the eighth and
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  Speaker 11: the ninth if they're literally never doing in the minor leagues.
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  Speaker 11: We're not developing pictures to throw complete We're barely developed
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  Speaker 11: it to sevenaries at this point. I don't I think
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  Speaker 11: there's been this one outing of one hundred and twenty
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  Speaker 11: pitches this year, and I believe there were none last year,
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  Speaker 11: and that used to be like the number we looked at.
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  Speaker 11: Go okay, you know, one twenty. That's about where you're
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  Speaker 11: in trouble. No nobody even gets ver anymore. So a
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  Speaker 11: lot of this isn't I think some of the gruff
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  Speaker 11: of your fans will put it on the players. It's
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  Speaker 11: not on the players, it's on the organizations who are
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  Speaker 11: just not even remotely developing pictures to go. Like I said, Eerie,
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  Speaker 11: Perez has never pitched in the eighth inning of his life,
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  Speaker 11: and I Noah Schultz was like a top twenty five prospect.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 11: He's a White Sox left hander, and he didn't pitch
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  Speaker 11: in the fifth inning. A couple of years ago, he
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 11: did not go past four innings. I want to say
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  Speaker 11: it was twenty twenty four. It's just we're not. It's
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  Speaker 11: a development issue and part of it, I mean, this
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  Speaker 11: is a lot for your guys. At one thirty five,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 11: you're coming up on a brave but you know, it
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  Speaker 11: goes into the sense of teams know they have thirteen
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 11: pitchers on a roster, and by the way, they can
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  Speaker 11: sun those last two spots, so they know they can
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  Speaker 11: have they don't have to let guys pitch tired because
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 11: they have plenty of pitchers around. This is why my
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 11: my preference for this all along has been twofold one.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 11: You cap pittures at eleven on a game day roster,
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  Speaker 11: and you reduce the amount of times teams can send
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 11: guys up and down. Maybe you get three moves a
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 11: week or something, or you know, ten moves a month
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 11: or something along the line.
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  Speaker 8: Lunch.
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  Speaker 11: But you've got to force teams to start valuing endurance
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  Speaker 11: and volume or they're never going to do it. So
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 11: that's why Bryce Miller it's taken out of this game
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 11: because Bryce Miller is literally in territory he's never been
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 11: in before. You mentioned the marriage not having a complete
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 11: game in four years, that's because they're not training pitchers
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 11: to go the dinnst Do I need it to be
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 11: nineteen eighty again? No, Steve Carlton is not coming back.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 11: Two hundred things and ninteen that's not coming back. But
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 11: can we get back to where Aces made thirty five
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 11: stars a year and the top pitchers in the league
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 11: who are throwing children twenty five to jundred and the theaters.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 11: That's the game. I'd like to go back to, maybe
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 11: the mid two thousands. Justin Verlander. I want to say,
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 11: in two thousand and one, eleven is the last guy
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  Speaker 11: to throw two hundred and at the ends of the year?
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 11: And was it two years ago? Only four guys got
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 11: to two hundred. This all starts with the rules set.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 11: You've got to force teams to start using fewer pitchers,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 11: and the only way to do that is to put
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 11: rules in place that make.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: Them do that.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: By the way, I've since Prez pitched on Sunday Murders
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: will not see him this week, which is a good thing.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: The bad thing is argument can be made that the
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: hottest team in baseball right now may be the Florida Marlins.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: Tell us about these.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 11: Guys, Yeah, finally healthy. Perez is healthy. Of course, al
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 11: Kantara missed twenty twenty four and pitched that well last year.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 11: He's really he's gonnumber three now, he's not really an ace.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 11: They got a kid named Max Meyer who also missed
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 11: a lot of last year. He's back, and those three
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 11: guys are anchoring the rotation. They've had a lot of
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 11: injuries behind that. So the pitching staff behind that, I'm
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 11: not sure who you're catching in this series. I think
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 11: I think Meyer. Actually, yeah, yep, yeah, that's that is
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 11: a great, great matchup. You know, I stay up most
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 11: nights anyway, but I'm definitely gonna be locked in on
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 11: that one. Uh. And you look at this team. What
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 11: they've done this year is they've proved the offense. A
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 11: guy who was a Rule five pick of the Tigers
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 11: who they got in to trade a couple of years ago,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 11: Liam Hicks got most of the catcher's job. He's been fantastic.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 11: Xavier Edwards was a former Raised prospect they traded for.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 11: He's turning into a good player. The guy you want
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 11: to watch, though. Otto Lopez, who's bounced around with a
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 11: few teams, emerge with the Marlins back into twenty twenty four,
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 11: and he's just gotten better and better, and he's actually
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 11: leading the National League hit He's might be leading all
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 11: the major leagues and hitting right now. But it's not
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 11: just a slappy Luis Riston. He's got some good power,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 11: especially to the full side, hits, doubles, hits, some pops,
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 11: and his decent short stuffs. So he's really the star
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 11: of this team. The biggest difference between the Marlins this
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 11: year in previous years is that they can finally score
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 11: some months.
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  Speaker 1: I like talking to Joe she In every Tuesday because
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: I take something almost every Tuesday that you say, and
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: then I use it later in the week. I always
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: do get full attribution, or I use it on molliwat
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: Monday with Chris and Nathan, which I did yesterday. This
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: will probably yeah, those guys, by the way, this will
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: probably get me in trouble again. This is Joe Shean's
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: least favorite topic. I'm gonna bring it up yet again.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: I think I brought it up like three weeks ago
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: because it's Meyer the All Star nine to one tonight
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: against Brian Wu. Brian Wu on the road, Joe. We're
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: at now what nine games on the road for Brian Wu.
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  Speaker 1: Can we be concerned with Brian Wu on the road
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: yet or not?
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  Speaker 11: No, you can't. It's just not the way the it's
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 11: just not the way home. Road splits work on road
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 11: splits in a single season are noise.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So you here that enters, that's noise.
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  Speaker 4: Noise.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: He gets lit up tonight. We're getting Joe back on tomorrow.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: I'll ask him about the noise.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: Oh the same.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 11: I apologize. I thought I thought you guys were home.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: They are definitely yeah. No, they're definitely yeah. So you
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: don't have to stay up, buddy. It's a perfect for you.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: You know, it's perfect for you. You can watch Brian Wu.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: And here's the thing now that I say this, he's
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: gonna he's gonna be Brian Wu home.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: Brian Wu.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: HEAs in terms of his numbers tonight and Joe's gonna
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: sit there and say, see, Ian just a moron. It
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: makes no sense. Why does he bring this up every
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks? So I I will here's the.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 11: Thing, if I if I don't think nine game home
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 11: road splits are meaningful, I'm certainly not going to give
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 11: you crap over a one game home. So you gotta
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 11: be you got to be a stat nerd.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: You gotta be cons.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: I love it, Andrews. Are you concerned with Brian wu
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: on the road or do you dare say that I'll
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: stick with Joe on this one. I'll say it's noise,
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: good call, that's a good call.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: Stay out of this one.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: And just tapped out. He's like, I'm good. I'm on
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: the side of being right. I'm on I'm on Joe's side.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: All right, Well it is a big time it is. Well,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: he's got Columbia Switzerland on well, cups on Jay, He's
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: got Columbia Switzerland on right. He's actually, you know what,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: in his defense, Joe, he's anchoring. We have one hundred
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  Speaker 1: stations with iHeart across the country. And Andrews is the
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  Speaker 1: the pre and post game host for the featured game
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  Speaker 1: every night on the on the iHeartRadio app and across
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  Speaker 1: the country one hundred stations. He's he's kind of a
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: too big a deal right now to be on with us.
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  Speaker 2: I can tell you.
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  Speaker 11: today about the the MLB player's proposal last week, some
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 11: of the roster changes they want to make to keep
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 11: guys from getting You'll see this guy you got for
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 11: five in Things of Relief and get sent down because
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 11: the team wants the roster spot back because then I'm
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 11: not going to use that guy for a couple of days.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 11: So what about that? I wrote about the euro Forrest
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  Speaker 11: thing on Monday, because everybody's talking about that over the weekend.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 11: Sometimes right on the weekends. I did a thing about
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 11: I look through the box scores and come up with
• 1:08:04
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• 1:08:07
  Speaker 11: This isn't probably gonna help people in Seattle, but you know,
• 1:08:09
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• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: quarterfinal match next tuesdays, I believe. So yes, I have
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: a quarterfinal match of World Cup soccer. So Joe, you
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  Speaker 1: and I will talk in two weeks time, if that's.
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  Speaker 11: Okay Andrews, I can come on and talk about X
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  Speaker 11: writing and the number of balls kicked out over the
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  Speaker 3: The Yeah, well maybe in two weeks we'll have to
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  Speaker 1: Much over the next couple of months, to be honest
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: with you, because there just isn't a lot going on
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: in the world of hockey. There could be, there's still
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: that kind of like the NFL, there's that secondary phase
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: of free agency, guys getting signed. Claudus signed today, stuff
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: like that. Bill would like the cracking to do something.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: We all would come on hope the something the But
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: it's funny. On Friday a story came out which I knew.
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  Speaker 1: I was giving a heads up it was going to
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  Speaker 1: come out. I was kind of waiting to see it.
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  Speaker 1: So Friday night, Friday News stump it comes out, and
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  Speaker 1: of course it caused all kinds of stir I'm thinking
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  Speaker 1: to myself on Friday, I cannot wait to tackle this
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: and shoot holes in it on Monday. And then Monday happened,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: and we had a little thing called the US men's
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: national team taken on Belgium around a sixteen game. We
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: had Jimmy's on first, and I mean we barely got
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  Speaker 1: the fact that the MS were five to one on
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: during those three hours. We had Furious Felts on. By
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: the way, I would love to hear Furious Felts today.
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  Speaker 4: I want to hear his response to last night.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: I think a furious Feltz response to last night is
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: needed on the on the Talk back Line, if that's possible.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: Got Aside story broke on Friday Elliott Friedman and basically
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: he had it.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: Shane writes.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: Agent says Jason Bottle has agreed to move Shane this
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: summer to a team in need of a top young center.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: So this comes out on Friday. It's also in the
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: thirty two Thoughts podcast, this is going to happen. Elliott
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: Freeman reports, and everyone's like, Oh, it's got to be true,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: It's got to be true, blah blah blah. I I
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: hate doing this, but I had immediately tweet out. Curtis
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: was the first kind of quote it crabtree as it's
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: factually incorrect. Agents are something, and initially there's bother some
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: pushback and people like, oh, that's not true. Then on
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: the podcast that they did end the season, Elliott says, quote,
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  Speaker 1: it's not a guarantee from the cracking that right will
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: be traded. Wait a second, I thought you said it
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: was guaranteed you they promised to trade him, which I
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: told you was untrue. Common sense is not used in
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: today's reporting and insiders and all this, and I like
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: Elliott most of the time, but god, man, stop just
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: taking agents words for things. Use your own brain for
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: a second. I'm not just talking about him just period.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: Shane Wright may get moved. You can make an argument
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: that he should get shit again and it needs to
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: get moved. And I think not just for him or
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: for the crack, but for the team. It just it
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: has not worked out here for him now. Part of
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: it is at some point because the insinuation from all
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: the We got a couple idiot blog sites in this town,
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: like really bad that cover the cracking, like just clueless
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: and like this. Well it's lack of player development. See
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: player development is now the key word because wiki talked
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: about in the audit. So everyone points to Shane right,
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: player development and all this off three coaches in three years.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: You know, he's just he's regressing. Well, his numbers have regressed.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: He was on the second power plea, you know last year.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: At some point the common denominator might not be Hackstall,
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: Bilsma and Lambert.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe it's the player.
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  Speaker 1: Did we not just spend the first hour talking about
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: not so much the US coach but the players. Yes,
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: when are players responsible. Shane by all accounts, great guy
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: by all accounts, And I checked on this a little
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: bit yesterday. Works his ass off. It just hasn't worked.
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  Speaker 1: He just hasn't lived up to the expectations of a
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: high draft pick. But there was no guarantee. Never was
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: it said by the kracking Yeah, we're gonna we promise
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  Speaker 1: we'll trade him this summer. Because think about this for
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: a second. At what point when you say that, do
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: you lose all leverage if you're the GM immediately is
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: the answer? You lose that, You lose it immediately. If
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: everybody knows you have to trade somebody, you lose leverage.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: You lose leverage. They would never promise to do that.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: If it helps them, they will, but there was no
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: promise made. Now it comes out, oh yeah, well maybe
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: he will, but there's no promise made.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 4: Well, did GM ever promise to trade someone?
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: Two things that they wouldn't? But number two, why wouldn't you,
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: as a reporter or someone who's going to be an
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: aggregator whatever the hell they call that stuff like the
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: blogs we have here covering the crack in that just
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: take it for gospel that it's true. Why wouldn't you
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: use your own brain and think about what you just said. Anders,
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: I have no idea. You know what I wonder about Shane?
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: You coach you soccer, I did. How many kids have
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: you seen over the years? Hell, you probably played with
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: some that peak at a certain age and never get better.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: It's a problem with the NHL draft. Now I'm not listen.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: Shane may end up being a really good player someday.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: I hope he is. Again, I do hope he is.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: If it's not here, but the kid goes get He's
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: got special exemption to play in the Ontario Hockey League
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: as a fifteen year old. Normally you can't play in
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: that league till you're sixteen, and usually there's only a
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: handful of sixteen year olds at that level. But he's
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: at fifteen. He played and sixteen had put up good numbers.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: Mister Air with COVID twenty twenty, Ohl didn't play. What
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: if he just peaked really early and just didn't get better.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: That happens. It's a problem with the NHL draft probably
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: Major League Baseball draft. You draft seventeen eighte year olds,
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: sometimes they don't get better.
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  Speaker 3: I will say the one thing kind of going against
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 3: the crack, and in this narrative is the fact that
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 3: they haven't. Really it's not just Shane that hasn't panned out.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: Like fully, you could say Maddie yes to some extent,
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: but you still expect a little bit more from him.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: But they haven't always pointing to the number one pick
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: in the draft, he's a third line, three to third
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: PA defenseman only power yeah right.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, in that specific draft.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I just mean, like overall, I mean, I'm
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: saying like Maddy wasn't yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Mattie's better
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: than the guy went number one.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: It's not about like what players were available when you
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 3: made that pick. For me, it's about, Okay, what is
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 3: your track record with developing young talent at this point?
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: And right now?
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, they'll point to the fact they've had basically
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: at least one from every draft class playing in the NHL,
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: which is pretty good. Not every team can say that, right,
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: But none of them are all stars yet, right, So
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: I mean there's kind of a it's back and forth
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: a little bit maneguards.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: So yeah, anyway, I just want to get that out there.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: I just I hate that it's guys, stop believing everything
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: that the insiders tell you. Sometimes it's not true, and
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: sometimes you don't even have to have inside information. You
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: know it's not true. You just go Let me think
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: about common sense. Would John Schneider ever do that? When
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: you ever promise to trade? DK metcalf, I mean, like
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: when he's made trades. It's kind of come out of
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: the blue. Yeah, Like when Ross got traded. Were you
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: were here? Yeah, we're in the old side of the building.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: It's like what Yeah, because we knew there was a
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: thought of it. But it's like, whoa, DK, whoa, Hey,
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: where'd that come from?
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: Worked out pretty well, by the way, pretty well both times.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: We'll come back, John Line.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 8: Next.
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  Speaker 2: What the hell? The guy's an icon? Iconic is what
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: they call you right now? Iconic? John Lennon, how are you? Yeah?
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  Speaker 9: I can't give you some big news today, but I
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 9: may have some big news coming for you, big news.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: Well I can't tell you today, but it's coming. That
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  Speaker 2: is just that is just.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 9: No, it's not People have to stay around. They have
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 9: to stay around every Tuesday. Maybe next week I'll be
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 9: able to announce it to you.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: The worst part, here's the worst part. You already know this.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: I text you this earlier. We're off next week. We're
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: carrying soccer, so it's gonna be two weeks from now.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: So I mean, I gotta wait two weeks. Is that
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: the deal?
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: Or I'll just call you. I guess so I may
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: just call you. So all right, yeah, what what what? What?
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 8: What did you do to our soccer team?
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: Listen?
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 8: What did you do?
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: And I'm gonna I'm gonna read text message that I'm
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna text listen stop.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 9: It didn't play their worst game ever in in my city.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 8: They played their worst game ever in your city.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 10: That's the worst they've ever played, right, Yeah, it's up
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 10: there and this is and this is my this is
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 10: the text change exchange I have with one today nine
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 10: three in the morning.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: Good to go today, two o'clock. Your fans love you? Yes,
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: I said, no show next week. Soccer games on won't
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: be the US though. Quote, we suck, we do.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 6: I mean, look, you could be the biggest expert ever.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 6: You'd be Alexei Lawless or Plint Dempsey or any of
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 6: those people that were up there doing a fine job.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 6: And I don't care did the analyze ever you off?
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 9: We suck. If we are a proper soccer country, that
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 9: goaltender would never be let back in our country. And
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 9: we and if we could, we would fly them all
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 9: coach somewhere near the bathrooms preferably.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: That was awful thirty two.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 8: A proper soccer county beside.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: Ourselves, they freeze free New York.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 9: The seat doesn't go back, you know, the seat doesn't
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 9: go back to the bathrooms right there.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: I often get that seat anyway, John, That was like,
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: like that was one of the greatest blunders in US sports.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's Chris Webber time out?
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 6: Is that?
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: Chris? We like, if you think of the worst ones ever,
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: Chris Webber timeout.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: Is right, Like they had a shot to win that
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: game though, Yeah, that but that was a gold standard, right,
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: like like just individual screw up. That was as bad
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: as it gets. Chris Webber time out for Michigan yeah,
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: but that play last night. I don't know what else
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: comes close to Brown.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 9: Remember Fred Brown, Georgetown, James Worthy.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: That's right. Yeah, we're dating ourselves right now with the.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 9: Shot Fred Brown, not not the Sonic, not the super
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 9: sixth Man, Supersonic NBA Champion. I'm talking Fred Brown to Georgetown,
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 9: throwing it to James Worthy like they were only down
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 9: to one. I know you guys all talked about this,
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 9: but they're only down two one at the time. Yeah,
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 9: you know it looks bad at the end if you
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 9: watch it. But I mean, how many people, honestly yesterday
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 9: gathered and got together.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: I know I did.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 9: You went out and get a good time, Like you know,
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 9: we can win this thing. I was on the air
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 9: here in Phoenix yesterday. You know, I don't know anything.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 9: I'm yip yap, and we can beat these guys this
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 9: and that, and then to have that, I mean, my god,
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 9: like you said, it was a gas, just a buzz kills.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: We talked about this first out, like we were down
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: with the game, as you aftely pointed out, being here
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: in Seattle. Because of course it's our fault, it's your
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: fault here. It's either the city of Seattle's fault are
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: weird looking Mayor's fault or Trump's or Trump's fault. It's
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: Trump's fault. I mean your poison. Whose fault is it?
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: If of those three? Who you going with?
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: Oh boy, I.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 8: Don't want to make your say, I don't want to
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 8: make your.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: Show political, but there I will. Just I'll put it
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: this way.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 8: And we talked about this yesterday.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 9: Look, it was great that Balligan gets to play and
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 9: all that kind of stuff, but we all know this.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 9: We all know this is sports fans. There's a thing
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 9: whatever you want to call it, however term, whatever term
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 9: you use, I'll just use it. Use like sports juju,
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 9: whatever it is, like, we all have that feeling like
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 9: and and it's not necessarily this fault, but before the game,
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 9: everyone's creaming and crying and everybody's this is great.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: This is awesome.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 8: You know, people, finally you know this isn't like this
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 8: on our side.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 9: And then the only thing I said is, you know,
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 9: sometimes there's bad sports juju, and then maybe that's what
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 9: this is.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: Soccer. Soccer, Yeah, soccer guys came down.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, yeah, And so you know, i'd probably put
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 6: some of it on.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: That, you know, yeah, I just blame Seattle. I think
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: it's a season to blame Seattle, isn't it. I mean
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: that's what we do.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: Ye mean, that's what I would do. Sure, that's what
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: you did yesterday.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: I'm sure everybody everybody in the NFC West is like,
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: stupid lumen Field. Yeah it's lumen Field. Yeah that's the
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: problem right there. It's got to be Looming Field. But
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: Veil Mary Place, everything else, all the stuff that's happened
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: in that stadium, it's got to be our fault here.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I couldn't.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh god, I think that was a buzzkill, though,
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: was it?
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 8: Not?
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: Like you're sitting there like you mentioned, like how many
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: people like I know we did. You did, like let's
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: go like, let's have a little gathering. That's what makes
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: sports great. We're gonna watch us. And we mentioned this
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: ear you lose and you lose three two or two
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: to one, and you put up a fight and things,
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: it's a close game, and no problem, Like you're fine, right,
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: you live with that, Like maybe how Egypt lost today,
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: you wouldn't want that.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: I have a two nothing lead that you blow. But still.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: But then you can blame the officials because they'll complain
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: about the VNA R again and all that stuff.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 4: So they've already come out and said it's fixed.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you could do that.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, any of those options are better than just getting
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: your teeth kicked in. I mean that was you know
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: what I should have known what was going to happen.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: You want to talk about juju and as we saw it.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: Did you see the lady yesterday stomach tattooed Patriots fan?
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 4: Yes, we did.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: That's it. That was the That was the bad juju.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: This league like, first.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: Of all, first of all, soccer fans in person, my god,
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: Like it's the best looking crowd in sports. It's not
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: even not even like there's nothing that compares. It's seventy five.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 9: Million, like NFL fans compared to soccer fans in just terms.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: Of just physical looks. Oh my god. That couldn't be.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 9: It couldn't be any more different.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: I mean they're like NFL fans are you and me?
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: You know, it's like elephant man stuff. And then and
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: then you go you turn on a soccer man. She
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: turned on a soccer match and it's like where are
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: all the beautiful people? They're at a FIFA game they're like,
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: we had some. So we're we're enjoying the sites. Last night,
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: we're doing the show a Jimmy's, which is across right
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: now and there in the city district, so we're doing
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: the show down there, and we had a code word
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: eight time we said America or US say that means
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: like take a look outside.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 9: Uh.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: And it was just spectacular because we're just idiots. I am,
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: I'm the king idiot all a minute. I'm just like
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: an old dumb old man. But anyway, at one point,
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: lookalgo oh, and this woman's walking by and she's wearing
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: like a cut up New England Patriots jersey and it
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: and it's kind of like pulled up like a crop top.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: She's got larger beer belly than me with a full
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: on stomach tattoo, and we's she was lost.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: She was one hundred percent lost. Like which times kick off?
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: You mean?
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: Like for the soccer match? Is this is it Wednesday?
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: Is this September? Are we playing you guys? And the
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: opening game.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: Is no, no, not us Gate.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: But we once again we made fun of her. I
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: think she's just bad juju and I think that was
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: the problem.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: Ill blame. I'll blame God.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: I can't wait to see her again here in about
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: two months when she shows up again.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: Oh now I'm on time. Yeah, lord, well, what do
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: you hate?
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: One of the things I love about about this is like,
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: then we we're gonna draw the general conclusions right of
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: like what happened and all this. I want to I
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: want to go down a little bit different road because
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: we brought this up. I brought this up. Andrews coaches
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: soccer at a high level you soccer has when he's
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: not working here, and your son played baseball, if I'm
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: not mistaken, pretty high.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: Pretty high, high level.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, my favorite thing now is across the country. But
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: it's you sports. The reason we're not good at you sports,
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: and soccer is too expensive and blah blah blah and
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: all this stuff. Did that just start like with soccer
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: yesterday or hasn't that been going on since kids? Like
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: this is not a new thing.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 9: No, no, look, I hate to say this, like the
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 9: whole I told you so thing, but this is what
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 9: we do all the time.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 9: We get to a certain level, we get hyped up,
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 9: we disappoint people, and then you know, if we had
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 9: lost in a normal way. But yeah, this has been
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 9: going on for a long time. I think what people
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 9: don't understand is that even though it's not a really
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 9: expensive sport to play, but to get to the level
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 9: and Andrews.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: Can jump in here in time, but I mean to get.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 9: To the level that they're at, you know, the other
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 9: places this is.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: This makes it really easy on everybody.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 9: The reason why we you know, there's not international football.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 9: We're trying, but it's not. It's not an international sport.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 9: Now baseball as basketball is. Why are we so good?
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 9: Because all the basketball players from around the world want
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 9: to come here and play in the NBA.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: It's the highest level Major League Baseball.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 9: It's the same way Japanese players, Latin players, they want
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 9: to come here. That's where the ultimate game is. The
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 9: ultimate game is not here. The ultimate game is not
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 9: in the US.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: The olpimate game is in the Premier League.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 9: And again everybody knows this because Seattle is a great
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 9: soccer town. But I mean, those guys are making three
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 9: four hundred dollars. The Viking, the dude on Holland is
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 9: making like one hundred million dollars. I mean, he's unbelievable.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 9: We're never gonna have that here. But what we could
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 9: have is, you know, going out in a more graceful
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 9: fashion than we did, so we don't.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: For us.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 9: Sort is it's not like tennis or golf or you know,
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 9: any of those high brow you know sports that you
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 9: know you played.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 8: But I never could do that. You know, I'm not
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 8: a country club guy.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 9: You yea country club guy.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: You play a lot of golf.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 9: Uh, Like, soccer is generally a cheap sport to play,
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 9: but not at the level that you know. We're just
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 9: not ever going to dump that kind of money in,
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 9: are we.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 8: But Andrews would tell me we're not going to dump
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 8: that guy of money.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 3: I don't see it becoming something as important as it
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 3: is in other countries. But yeah, you're right that the
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 3: fact that you know, it not being the mecca of
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 3: soccer here in the US.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 4: It's over in Europe.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 3: But I look at once again, I'll look at the
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 3: world defending World champions Argentina. None of those players play
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 3: in Argentina. They play in Europe as well, right, But
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 3: it's the developmental systems from a youth level, right that
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 3: get them ready to play and at the top level
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 3: in Europe, so that when they come them back to
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 3: play for their national team. It's that much different. So
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 3: that's the difference between like the top nations and.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: Well but you like, but go back to the cost,
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: like because that's the big thing people are complaining about,
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: and you know, John just mentioned it. I think that
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: is the thing that you know, like the top like
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: the top players. The two worst players for the US,
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: especially last night, are the two guys that play in
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: the MLS. You know, the goalkeeper, the side. But but
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: that aside. Okay, so it's expensive to play for the academies,
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: your premier team. I mean, how much did you guys
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: spend zillions of dollars for George to play baseball growing up?
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: Right? Like a god?
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 9: Right?
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 8: Yeah yeah?
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 2: Even a bat cost me my entire salary for the year.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: I mean it's just like one bat. And I.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: Was like, all right, and he died a second one
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: halfway through, right, he needed a second bat at some.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 2: Point, like he could because he just hit so well,
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 2: my god, well, because.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 8: I tried to tell him.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 9: I tried to tell him earlier, like dude, you're not
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 9: going anywhere with athletics. You might want to talk about him,
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 9: which he does. But I'm like you're not going anywhere, Like,
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 9: I'll buy you the best bat money can buy, I guess,
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 9: and we can go all the academies and play all
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 9: the summer leagues.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: You know, you did it, you guys, you guys do it.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: You guys understand.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know what the answer result, Like, I don't
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: know what the answer is because like everyone's like, that's
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: the thing today, that's the narrative. I'm screaming, yelling about
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: how it's you know, it costs too much to play,
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, you know what, it costs a
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: lot to play a lot of different things. It shouldn't
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: be that way. We should open things up for kids
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: to play more.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: Uh. But then the other thing, we specialize in all
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 2: those things.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: But you know, I'm guessing the top soccer players in
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: Argentina Anders are probably not playing basketball.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: Right, No, they're not right, and they're probably playing well.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 9: Thing right is that we we do spend money in
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 9: a lot of different ways, but we're so diverse in
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 9: all the sports that we have that that soccer is
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 9: kind of you know, gets I don't know some.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: Of the left though.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 4: It gets lost the full time.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 9: Mean it just does. I mean, I hate to be
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 9: so simplistic about it, but I mean, I look, I
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 9: played actually there in Seattle. We were in southern California
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 9: and moved to Seattle for a brief period of time,
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 9: and I played in Edmunds. That I played, I was
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 9: a goalie on a travel team. That's how bad soccer
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 9: is in the US. I was a goalie when we
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 9: lived in Seattle on a travel team that went up
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 9: through Canada, and we were pretty good.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 8: But after that a few years later, it.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 9: Was like, oh, baseball and football, and you know, everybody
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 9: talks about this, but do we get the athletes, because
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 9: if we had the premier athletes, Like last night, I'm
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 9: watching Belgium. I don't know who number ten is, but
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 9: like he's a gray dude. It's like three feet tall.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 9: He looks like a dwarf run around out there, and
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 9: he's just schooling us, and shouldn't we have better.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 6: Athletes than that dude?
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 9: He looked like he was fifty And now he's putting
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 9: out to my wife and she was just you know who,
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 9: by the way, just gets into the games at this point,
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 9: Why is the clock going up?
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: Why extra time? I'm like, it's not the time to ask.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 8: To go a tangent, but like.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 6: He always comes downstairs at the time where it's.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 9: Like, look, man, it's a knockout round. I don't know
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 9: why the clock's going up. I don't want to tell
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 9: you about extra time. I don't know why they're kicking
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 9: the ball backwards. I know that's not the way of
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 9: the goal. Just just be patient here, will you.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: Patience? Patience is part of soccer. What are you say, Andrews, Well, yeah, anyway,
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: go ahead?
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean John's John's part. John's point about the athletes.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 3: I think everyone says, oh, if all the best athletes
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 3: played soccer would be the best.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 4: I don't think it's that simple.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 2: I really don't.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 3: It's it's it turns into a like how you develop them, right.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 3: I don't think it's a lack of athleticism that the
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 3: US is not the best team in the world. It's
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 3: the fact that they don't have the infrastructure of these
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 3: other countries at the youth level.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: And I think that's it, right, there's development. Well, I
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: just I think you can make an argument that John.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: You probably agree, having watched you know that baseball when
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: up until what he probably finished what five years ago
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: playing you know, the baseball, the travel ball is your son.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: But the best, the best athletes in the States are
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: not playing baseball either, like they're not right, Like the
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: best athletes are playing football, football, and basketball, and then
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: trickle down from there. Our best athletes aren't playing hockey.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: But we just want a gold medal. Yeah exactly, we
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: just want to go medal missipicks for the best or
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: the best of the world of that.
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 2: So they're doing so.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's on the federal maybe it's on the development,
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: maybe it's on whoever the governing body is. Because USA
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: Hockey seems to have figured it out, right, USA basketball
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: has it figured out, like maybe the women have it
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: figured out, although women's different because we invest more in
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: women's sports in most countries, but still like they've all
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: figured it out. I just you know, it was we
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: brought this up. We're gonna check our text coming over
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: the next segment. I just kind of thought last night
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: ruined my US world. I still like the games. I'm
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: watching Switzerland Columbia as we speak right now. I'll watch
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: as many games as I can. I love the World Cup,
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: but I thought it ruined my US experience just because
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: they were such no shows yesterday, like just absolute no
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: shows in that game. And it's probably what you said,
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: there's some bad juju. One team was motivated. The other
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: team probably felt like, hey, we got our guy. We've
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: seen this in sports all the time, right, you don't
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: expect a guy to play.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: Oh, he's hurt, he's not going to play.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, magically he comes out
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: there and plays, and the rest of the team kind
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: of sits back and relaxes a little bit.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 2: I think that's also what happened.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I just I think you hit it right on
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 9: the heads in that last part. It's like thirty million
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 9: people watch this thing. It's the most watched US soccer game.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 9: It was at five o'clock Pacific, eight Eastern. It fit
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 9: perfectly on. It was on our home soil. It was
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 9: in a great soccer city like Seattle, and they just
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 9: fell on their face. And for all the good things
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 9: that you know had been happening and all these kind
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 9: of things, you know, Fox has got to be sitting
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 9: there going come on, man, because here's the thing again.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 9: I know people in Seattle realize this, but look, man,
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 9: we've been to where we were last night. We didn't
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 9: there was nothing new, and then to lose in that fashion,
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 9: in just such a as you said, no show fashion,
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 9: I think I don't know.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 2: People would have to tell me.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 9: I think it tears down everything good that was built up.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 1: By the way, we play the Arizona Diamondbacks this year
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: in urnurse, do we pu enters?
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: Off the top of your head? Why, I just I
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: just stumbled across. Hang on, hang on, I'm looking for.
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 2: It at some point.
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: Right, let's see where are they at right now, Miami,
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: San Francisco.
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 2: I think they might have already seen them. Yeah, oh
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 2: that's right.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to get the kid on I
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: wanted to get. I want to get George lun from
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: Locked On, Locked On diamond Back.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 2: He's unbelievable.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 8: He is.
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 2: He is a kid. I'm looking the video right. He's
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 2: a good looking kid. Yeah, you get that. Got his
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 2: mom's look his mom's you know, not me.
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 9: I just wish he would shave that muscle.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 8: He looks like he's got a caterpillar in his lip.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 2: God, he's got a bad and that's the thing. Oh,
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 2: it's such a bad stash.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 9: And it's like seriously, it's like seventies bound the wow.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 2: Wow. It's just it's so bad.
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 9: It's such a bad porn stash and it's and you
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 9: know how kids aren't that age because you got him
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 9: too at that age, like you try to tell him
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 9: anything right now, and they think they've got the world
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 9: figured out and it's and I tell him, like, dude,
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 9: the stash is so bad. He goes, you don't know
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 9: anything about fashion, and you don't know about anything that's
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 9: in like this is cool, and all of his friends
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 9: have them and they're brutal.
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: Well, the good news is is I get that from
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: my kid, and then I get it from my daughter,
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: my son and my daughter, and then I come in
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: here and I get it from my producer who was
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: also fairly young as well, so Andrew to So I
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: get it. I get it from all sides, buddy, I
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: get it from all sides. So yeah, are you on
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: Are you on National?
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 2: What are you doing these days?
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 8: Yeah?
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 9: Rest of the week, I'll be doing the mornings on
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 9: it's usually the Drake col Show on. I think it's
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 9: on your sister station on West forty, and I'm doing.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 8: Lots of yeah, and we get tons of stuff, Like
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 8: I said.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 9: Especially Saurday and Sunday nights to do the shows late
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 9: night Pacific time?
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 8: Was it eight to midnight against specific.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 9: Again, we're all the you know, where you put the
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 9: real talent, and they we get tons of calls. Man,
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 9: we're getting tons of calls, especially this week because you know,
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 9: everybody was talking.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, this was what was cool about sports radio.
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 9: I will give him this credit every station, you know,
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 9: and I'm working on local national shows too, and we're
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 9: all talking soccer. You know, we were all talking soccer.
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 9: And it sucks because it ended in a better fashion.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 9: I think there would still be a discussion point. But
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 9: it's just so nasty that I like today, like I
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 9: did a local show, we didn't talk anything. I'm doing
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 9: national shows the rest of the week. I mean, we'll
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 9: bring it up maybe, but they had their chance, you know,
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 9: they had their chance.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, listen, we'll go check Linday. He loves
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: when people in Seattle check in with him, So go
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: check it out on Westwood One, front of.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 2: The Linny call tea.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 9: Man, I see a Seattle or a Seattle area call front.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 2: Of the line. Wow, how about that? See that's that's
• 1:37:06
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• 1:37:12
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• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: you can tell me what the big news. That's when
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: I call you later, all right. See, yeah, that's gentlemen. God,
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: can you what a tease? Big news coming up? Can't
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: tell you now, I can't tell you. Wow, that's pretty
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: rude on his part, quite rude. All right, we'll check
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: the text four nine, four to five one. I'm hoping
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: to get a Furious Felts call in on the talkback,
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: because Furious is furious. He's I haven't seen him today.
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: Have you seen him out there today? Nope, I can't
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: fathom where he's out right now.
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 4: He's just not even like angrily texting us like you
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 4: normally would.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: No, that's what's weird. I'm a little worried about Jackson.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: All right, maybe Furious will call in. We'll do that next.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, JR FM.
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  Speaker 12: That was an excellent monologue in you articulated exactly how
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 12: I feel.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: Okay, I think that was in regards to the US
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: soccer team.
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 2: Probably are you got one more?
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 9: Hey, guys, it's sad fake fears filters here and that.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 2: Was just awful, awful, awful.
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 7: I gotta no other words, guys, sad fake fears philps out.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: I'll see you in two thousand and thirty.
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 9: Go Mariners, Go Seahawks, and those importantly go Seattle.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 3: They didn't get actual Jackson or theorious Felts.
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: Today, No, we got fake Felts, fake Felts with the
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: Kevin Shockey heavy size through.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: Pretty good, It's pretty good when it was all said
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: and done, all right, four nine, four five one, here
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: we go two o six. Andrews has it exactly right.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: They weren't ready. They didn't look good. For the start.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: Fans were cheering. There would be USA chances would get
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: started to try and public the team. They look listless.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: The environment seemed great. This is from the c xeason
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: ticket Hohole results of the USA Australia game. There you
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: go next for I'm asking Greg too about that. He
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: said it wasn't as good as the Australia game. It's
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: just because I think I think, I think I give
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: Belgium credit for that.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 2: Well, and like because the US started so.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 3: Fast in that USA Australia game, like they were coming
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 3: off the win against Paraguay and the like I said,
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 3: the crowd gets behind what they're seeing, right, If they
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 3: see high energy on the field, they bring high energy
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 3: in the stands, right, They just the US didn't never
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 3: bring that. So it's like, what do we even cheer about.
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: Uh, let's see part of that match. Belgium looked old,
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: tired and slow. They put in their young fast pressing force,
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: told them to until they drip. They're only playing sixty minutes.
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: US wasn't ready and couldn't handle the pressure. Would you agree, Yeah, yeah,
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: two things can be right. Redacting the red card was
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: a joke. With the red card in the first place,
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: with jokes would evens out. Soccer has a problem with
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: horrible calls, flopping in all of it. Soccer's got a
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: lot of issues with the VAAR this year.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's always been an issue.
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: But it's like Egypt sideways today over their call. They
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: too had a goal taken off. They had a goal
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: taken off the board for a foul that was very
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: you brought it up, that was very NHL like, yeah,
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: where we've seen this in the NHL, where like a
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: goal is scored and everyone's celebrating and then like you
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: find out they're going to challenge it and you go, well,
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: what were they challenging? Oh, was an offside that happened
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: like a minute beforehand.
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 3: You know, this wasn't that bad because the foul happened
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 3: that the player then ran up the entire field and
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 3: then passed it and scored. So it was it direct
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 3: like it led directly to the goal, but it was
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 3: on the other side of the field, right, And that's
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 3: why Egypt's pissed off because they felt like it wasn't
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 3: in the correct passage of play. I've seen NHL where
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 3: it's like a minute later. Yeah, it's nuts, wild nuts.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: The United States was unprepared and uninspired, but there are
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: some other great sub stories in this tournament, the rise
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: of the African teams, all the mindos that came through
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: and gave exciting moment, especially Cape Verde outstanding goalkeeping. The
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: United State's notwithstanding because he's terrible, true and messy. Is
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: age performing this level and is still making a big difference.
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 1: So those are the stories and making this tournament so exciting.
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: I would agree with all that. I would agree with
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: all that. You and Jackson talked about the African Nations
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: and their rise up a little bit too right now, right, yep?
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: Then they got this guy too. Thankfully, I don't have
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: to pronunce like soccer anymore. I remember their World Cup
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: has two good games, one marginal game, another semi good game,
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: and a complete turd.
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 4: Hey, hey, you know what I understand.
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of people I just watch for the US,
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 3: and because of that fact, they couldn't they couldn't really
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 3: captivate that audience to make it even more than that.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 4: But it is what it is.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: That was the first game I've ever watched. It was
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: clear to me how much better Belgium was as a
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: team in the US definitely looked blackadaisical. I'm gonna say, like,
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: where were you for the first four games of the
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: tournament for the US.
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 3: I mean again, this is there's gonna be a lot
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 3: of people that watch that one and not the first four.
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 4: Right, It's just the way it.
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: Goes, okay, rip it on Seattle. We'll get to that tomorrow.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do that tomorrow. Tomorrow. Let's see, couldn't are
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: one are you couldn't one argue the price of baseball,
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: hockey and soccer limit the talent and limited explosure in America.
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: MLB isn't exactly killing it in popularity.
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 3: Yes, but the Americans are, if not the best, there
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 3: are at least top.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 4: Two or three.
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like we're in the conversation.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 4: We're talking about like outcome, not popularity here.
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like we're talking yeah, and I don't I'm not
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: going to use the World Baseball Classic as a measuring
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: stick because so many guys opted.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 4: Out the final.
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, and even then, USA has never
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: been a World Cup final. Yeah, no World Baseball Classic,
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: I would just also point out that there's a lot
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: of guys, including every Mariner starter, who didn't want to
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: play in that. Yeah, So you don't give that still
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: got to the final. You don't get the best of
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: the best, and it's still you're still really good. Yeah,
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: Like you're still really good. And I listen by no
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: means am I saying that you sports costs aren't out
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: of control. They are and I think that prohibits a
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: lot of kids from playing. I think in our country
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: we talked about this earlier. A lot of times kids
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: peak early, other kids develop late, yep, and you start
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: losing out on some what could be some talented players
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: in young people along the way. There's got to be
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: a better solution. If I had it, I would tell
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: you today. I just don't have it. Yeah, because it
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: still costs money.
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 3: It does, you know? It's incredibly expensive. Yeah, there's a
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 3: lot of pay to play that doesn't for the best
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 3: players in other countries France, England, wherever they they subsidize
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 3: the ability to have so anyone, no matter where you
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 3: are socioeconomically, can play and develop. Two six one loss
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 3: does not remove the joy that I found in this sport,
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 3: and I can't wait to continue to learn more. I'll
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 3: couple that with this one right above it. Kids are
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 3: still into it, so not ruined for me. Good, Yeah, good,
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 3: I will say anyone. I understand a lot of Peo
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 3: people that maybe this isn't your thing and you will
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 3: only watch for the US. That's totally fine, totally understand it.
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 3: For anyone who has any sort of interest and is
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 3: maybe kind of debating whether they want to continue watching
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 3: now that the US is out.
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 4: Please do.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 3: I highly recommend it because it only gets better from
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 3: here in terms of the sport itself.
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 2: Two oh six. Hey, guys, what's worse to lose like
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 2: we did or lose like Egypt did.
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 4: That's a good question.
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 2: God, they've both a really good question. I would say.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 4: I'd still take Egypt because you could because.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 2: You were entertained for eighty.
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 3: Nine minutes and you felt like you were the better team,
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 3: and months removed, Yes, you will still feel like it
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 3: was a missed opportunity, but you could say, hey, we
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 3: were the better team in that game.
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 4: There's a lot to build on.
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: I thought yesterday was just such a buzzkill, a total buzzkill,
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: Like there was just nothing entertaining about that match in
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: any way, shape or form. So I guess I would
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: say Egypt is. I would have rather be Egypt.
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's here's an interesting one. Ian US team
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 2: over rated?
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: Why did so many US soccer and Sports X was
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: rate the US so high when it is really in reality,
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: US is still a second class in soccer.
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 2: That's Ralph from Bellevue.
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 3: There is a lot of sentiment around that. I will say,
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 3: you're not alone and thinking that Ralph, that Fox and
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 3: the people around.
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 2: Do you believe the US underachieved I think by the
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 2: level of their talent.
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 3: No, I think they did exactly what kind of We
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 3: talked about this yesterday. Going into the tournament, I think
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 3: rut of sixteen was around the expectation. Of course, we
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 3: may have shifted that expectation after we saw the first
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 3: few games, but going into the tournament, I think if
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 3: you had lost in the round to thirty two, it's
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 3: a failure around at sixteen mah okay, quarterfinal would have
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 3: been a huge success. That's the difference in those three there. Yeah,
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 3: and again it's not the fact that you lost this game,
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 3: it's how it happened. That's what's so deflating and so
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 3: frustrating about this.
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: Two of six all Caps vary actual fan here didn't
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: ruin it for me, but the effort was atrocious. I'm
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: done with Polistic. He's better not get anymore in national endorsements.
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: That was the hard thing last night. I know you
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: guys were on the air. Yeah, I think in the
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: post game nonsense. There was probably four or five commercials
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: featuring Christian Polistic, and I'm watching it with my son
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: of a couple of his buddies that they're like yelling
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: like what are we doing?
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 4: Why are we doing that?
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 1: Why is this guy getting those endorsements like and you know,
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: making them look all cool and all this stuff, and
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: it's like, dude, you just.
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 2: Look he tapped out to straight up tap out.
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 4: Two six.
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 3: If Polistics the USA is top player, then things are
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 3: a lot worse than what we saw yesterday. He wasn't
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 3: just a non factor. He was a negative factor. And
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah again, if there will be a lot
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 3: of people that watched yesterday is maybe your first really
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 3: into it game. Pulistic still a good player, He's very talented.
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 3: He showed his quality in the first match against Paraguay.
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 3: Is probably the best player on the field. But the
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 3: fact that in the biggest moment you can't show up
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 3: is the biggest kind of knock against him. And that's
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 3: that's the issue. And unfortunately he didn't kind of do
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 3: anything to exercise those demons.
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: Two o six. Talking about what we're talking about, Joe
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: about the no hitter. A couple of days ago, I
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: watch highlights of Fernando valens Wail was no hitter in
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety. Vin Scully said, quote hundred seven pitches through eight,
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: so he should have plenty of ammunition left.
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 2: Only smokes. Times and pitchcouns have certainly changed. A fun fact.
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: Dave Stuart also through a no hitter that day, only
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 1: time in MLB history, two and no hitters with on
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: the same day. Joe mentioned this. It's just it's completely different.
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: It is completely completely different.
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, different world.
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: Shane Wright was full grown at fifteen, since a four
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 1: two five, and he bullied little gets with size not skill.
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 2: It's why I failed them.
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 1: They had no plans to draft him, were forced two
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: when he was there, so obviously skating and stick puck
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: skills really improved. But he's just got a top six
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 1: bodying out the skills will be a top four. Rather
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 1: than training for someone else's sake, They need to let
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: him play on his contract done. The turnover machine needs
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: to be moved. He has a good shot but cost
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: you two points every twenty scores. I don't know about that,
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: but you great year. I think Vince, I think Vince.
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 1: I think Vince could get moved. I mean Vince would
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: bring something back for you. I mean, they're that's redundant
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: with Mandean team.
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 3: But Derek and the two six Anders, why do't the
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 3: men attack the goal? So many wasted possessions there. That
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 3: is a sentiment from maybe not diehard soccer fans that
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 3: ask me that all the time possession is valued so
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 3: highly now that you kind of want to keep it
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 3: for as long as you possibly can, not just to attack,
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 3: but to avoid the other like keep it from the
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 3: other team from attacking you.
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, so you see that with Spain.
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 3: Spain are the Kings at this They win a lot
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 3: of one zero games, but they have eighty percent possessions,
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 3: so they never get scored on. So that's kind of
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 3: the idea there. I agree with you. It kind of
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 3: has gone overboard and the lack of directness has kind
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 3: of gone a little too far the other direction. So
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 3: I think Columbia team that's playing right now is a
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 3: team that kind of is a little throwback in that way.
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 3: They just go straight to the goal every single time,
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 3: and they're not super clinical. They missed a lot of chances,
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 3: but little at the goal. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: Hugh Millan says it constantly when you're dealing with mid
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: teenage males. Some hit period early, they stand up athletically
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 1: versus their peers at that time. Yeah, and Coe will
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 1: text that in about that about when I mentioned Shane, right,
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: maybe he peaked at fifteen or sixteen. I think it's
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: also why we have to be careful. It's twofold today
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: with our conversations.
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 2: One.
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: I do think that that may be the case of Shane.
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe not, who knows. I'm just that's
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: just a guess. I'll get still break out somewhere. But
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: there was no doubt when he was fifteen he was
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 1: thought to be the bea, all the end ault And
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 1: I think that the same thing with we're worried about
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: developing athletes in our country at any sport, Like when
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 1: we exclude kids by the time they're ten, eleven, or twelve,
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: you might be missing out on some really talented players
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 1: in any sport soccer, football, basketball, hockey, whatever. But Dick
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 1: joins us.
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 13: Next, Dick fainus here, ladies and gentlemen.
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 1: Last I saw him, he was in the Madhouse. It
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 1: was Jimmy's on first. You had furious felts with you
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 1: did all hell was breaking, which I'm I'm very surprised
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 1: that Andrews' clothes right now.
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 4: After earlier today.
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 2: With Argentina, I heard he went nuts after they scored.
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 12: I walked into the room and I kind of shielded
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 12: my eyes because I didn't want to look over to
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 12: my right for fear that I would see a naked Anderson.
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I close on, close off, closing, clothing optional.
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 4: I hope Dick after yesterday, that's right, that's right.
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 2: Well, you have your team still alive.
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 1: Jackson has Spain, right, that's his pick, and he's not
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: as attached emotionally to Spain.
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 2: I don't think as you are Argentine.
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 4: Well, now the US is out.
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 2: How is he doing today? Have you talked to him, Dick?
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 2: How is Joe Jackson? He's He's okay.
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 12: Yeah, he seems fairly normal right now. I haven't really
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 12: talked soccer with him yet. I've just talked about the
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 12: show with him.
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 2: So here's what you should Is he in there right now?
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 4: No?
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 2: No, not yet. Just start to show and say Christian
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 2: policitic reac.
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 12: It'll be part of our first segment at Freeze. We
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 12: are going to do a Freeze. It'll be an interesting round.
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 12: We're gonna have a roundtable between me and Hugh and Jackson.
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 12: So we'll have the the lay person in me, the
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 12: lay person in Hugh, and the freak show in Jackson,
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 12: all talking about what happened last night and what are
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 12: the ramifications and what does this mean? And is Christian
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 12: polisic a Is he a sympathetic figure or is he
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 12: a villain?
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 2: You know, like what's you know what we'll go in
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 2: there is definitely not sympathetic.
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 12: Yeah, you know, for me, it was it was fun
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 12: yesterday prior to the game, because you know, seeing it
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 12: at Jimmy's. You know, I took my scooter. I had
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 12: my scooter. She scooted all the way to the to
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 12: the storm facility. So I went all along the waterfront
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 12: like five miles.
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 2: How insane was It was awesome?
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 12: Yeah, Like I just every about minute, I was like
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 12: I need to pull over and take a picture.
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 2: I need to pull over and take a video.
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 12: So I kind of did like three or four posts
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 12: over the course like thirty minutes, like here's where I
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 12: am now, Here's where I am now, And just the
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 12: tens of thousands of people watching that game, and I
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 12: was at the big the barge when Belgium scored their
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 12: first goal and you couldn't really tell who scored.
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 2: Well, you knew that.
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 12: The US didn't score, and you knew that something. But
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 12: it was almost like a groan, like a oh it
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 12: was a penalty on America like it was like at
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 12: that time. It was just kind of like a like
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 12: like not he just like oh my god.
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 2: It was just it was like a h And I
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 2: was like, what happened?
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 5: Then?
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 12: I thought I heard John Strong say and it's one
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 12: nothing Belgium.
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 2: I was like, what, It's not good? And I tried
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 2: to fight my way through so I can see the
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 2: screen and it around sure is bleep. It was one
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 2: nothing Belgium.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 12: And I was like, well that was kind of a
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 12: weird reaction from like ten thousand people.
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 1: Was like because it was expected. They looked terrible from
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 1: the stit Well yeah they did.
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 2: You know what sick it too is?
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 1: As I was walking through the crowd, I ran smack
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: dab as I was heading to the link right link
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 1: link trail link link light rail is anybody even on
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 1: it D game? It was wild. Well I was before
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 1: the game, but I got to it at about two,
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 1: you know, about three twenty or so, and in the
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 1: old Union station there the train's coming from Bellevue in
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 1: and then the one coming from Lynnwood down like sardine.
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 2: Sorry, it reminded me.
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 1: Of when I was on the subway Super Bowl Week
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 1: back in twenty fourteen, like in taking the subway down
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 1: to the radio, row them back to you by yourself
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 1: going to Bellevue. No, there was a handful of people.
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 1: There are all people that are like, what's going on here?
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 1: Because you can tell like they work downtown. They take
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: it every day right there weren't any soccer fans. It
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 1: was just me, you know, and then a munch looked
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: like they work downtown. But it was wild because as
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 1: I'm walking out and the Belgium march of the match,
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 1: I ran smack dab into that and all the people
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  Speaker 1: are on. I was just thinking, We're just not used
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 1: to that stadium having a massive game, whether it's a
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 1: playoff game for the Seahawks or an NFC championship game,
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: MLS Cup, Cocky calf the champions say, what was the
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 1: one they won?
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 2: The big leagues? That stuff.
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 1: We're not used to having all that pre hype. And
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 1: then the team that we're rooting for having a dead
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: in that street. We really aren't. Like, we've been pretty
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 1: bus you mentioned it yesterday. They've won, they've won every
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 1: NFC Championship game, sounders buy and large. When they've played
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: a big game there, big match, they win, right, at
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 1: least showed up.
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 2: At least they show up. That's a good point.
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 12: Surprised to see the ratings, maybe I am Maybe I'm not.
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 12: It was much lower than I thought. But maybe it's
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 12: just because people saw how the US was playing and they.
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: Were like games over man, game was over all right.
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 1: So you got the roundtable early on with Tailor furious Felts.
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 2: That'll be fun.
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 12: Uh, you know, kid trying to keep Andrews. You might
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 12: need to stay in there for the first thirty matches
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 12: just to make sure he stays in our.
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 2: Control and doesn't swear or anything like that.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
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  Speaker 12: Mike DECURSI our good friend that doesn't college a great
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 12: job with soccer. He is a US men's national team
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  Speaker 12: writer for like thirty five years job. So he is
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 12: going to come on at four o'clock and give us
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 12: kind of the national perspective for what what all this means.
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 12: And we are efforting to get Brian Schmitzer because today
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 12: is his Tuesday that he comes on. I understand he
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 12: is flying down to San Jose right now, so hopefully
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 12: at six o'clock we will talk to the coach of
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 12: Seattle Sounders FC and get his take on what he
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 12: witnessed last night.
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 1: Well, all right, that's all coming up with Dick Faine
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 1: Jacksonville's humil inext for the.
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  Speaker 2: Mild mannered and marginally objectionable Inverness. This is paddle day,
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  Speaker 2: saying so long everyone,