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- 0:26Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles punched their ticket Super Bowl fifty nine,
- 0:29Speaker 1: reports started at the Saints plan to interview Eagles offensive
- 0:33Speaker 1: coordinator Kellen Moore up in Philadelphia. Obviously, he's got a
- 0:38Speaker 1: lot of matters to attend to, and lo and behold
- 0:40Speaker 1: is exactly what happened. The Saints hopped on a plane.
- 0:42Speaker 1: Saints brass hopped on a plane. They went up to
- 0:44Speaker 1: Philadelphia and Monday night interviewed Kellen Moore. As a matter
- 0:48Speaker 1: of fact, Our Ross Jackson from Louisiana Sports dot Net
- 0:51Speaker 1: filed his report at twelve twenty five a m. So
- 0:55Speaker 1: that interview was Monday night and into Tuesday morning with
- 0:59Speaker 1: kell More. But the Saints have since completed that interview
- 1:03Speaker 1: in person. So now we know Anthony Weaver, the Dolphins
- 1:06Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, Mike Kafka the Giants offensive coordinator, and Kellen Moore,
- 1:12Speaker 1: the Eagles offensive coordinator, are the three candidates that have
- 1:15Speaker 1: completed in person interviews, in addition to Darren Rizzy, the
- 1:19Speaker 1: Saints interim head coach. So that's the four. The expectation
- 1:23Speaker 1: is that former coach Cowboys coach Mike McCarthy will have
- 1:26Speaker 1: his in person interview with the New Orleans Saints later
- 1:29Speaker 1: this week. However, there was a report on Monday evening
- 1:33Speaker 1: that the Saints were quote not enamored with McCarthy in
- 1:37Speaker 1: the early conversations that they've had, so we'll see what
- 1:40Speaker 1: may manifest there. You know, I find it interesting with
- 1:43Speaker 1: Kellen Moore because he is now the odds on favorite
- 1:47Speaker 1: to become the Saints' next head coach, and Kellen Moore
- 1:52Speaker 1: does check the boxes that I had kind of imposed
- 1:59Speaker 1: early in this process where I said I wanted the young,
- 2:03Speaker 1: offensive minded coach with no ties to the Saints organization
- 2:08Speaker 1: and preferably from the Shanahan McVeigh tree. So you don't
- 2:12Speaker 1: get that component of it directly, but you do get
- 2:17Speaker 1: all the other check marks there. Kellen Moore is a young,
- 2:20Speaker 1: offensive minded coach who's never been a head coach before,
- 2:23Speaker 1: and he has obviously been the play caller in Dallas
- 2:27Speaker 1: and now is the play caller in Philadelphia. I don't
- 2:29Speaker 1: know that necessarily anything that went wrong or maybe didn't
- 2:32Speaker 1: go right, Perhaps the way to say it in Dallas
- 2:37Speaker 1: was his fault necessarily, But he was outstaff for twenty
- 2:40Speaker 1: twenty two, spent one season with the Chargers in twenty
- 2:43Speaker 1: twenty three. Of course, Brandon Staley was not retained, so
- 2:47Speaker 1: he was looking for a job and now in Philadelphia
- 2:50Speaker 1: for this season. It certainly helps in Philadelphia when you're
- 2:53Speaker 1: calling plays and you can turn around and hand the
- 2:54Speaker 1: ball to Saquon Barkley. As Paul told us yesterday, good
- 2:58Speaker 1: running back gets a lot of arts. You can hand
- 3:01Speaker 1: the ball to Saquon Barkley, get throw it to Devonte Smith,
- 3:03Speaker 1: AJ Brown, Dallas Goddard. It's a good offense. I don't
- 3:07Speaker 1: suspect that it's too hard to call plays with all
- 3:10Speaker 1: with all that talent, it would be a decidedly different
- 3:12Speaker 1: experience calling plays in New Orleans with this hodgepodge of
- 3:16Speaker 1: average to bad for the New Orleans Saints. But again,
- 3:20Speaker 1: Kellen Moore looks like he is now the front runner
- 3:22Speaker 1: to get that job. One thing Ross Jackson mentioned here
- 3:25Speaker 1: on Monday that was interesting is the longer this goes
- 3:30Speaker 1: the more likely it is that they hire someone else.
- 3:33Speaker 1: Because the truth is, if they wanted to hire Kellen Moore,
- 3:36Speaker 1: like if they were blown away with that interview, hire now,
- 3:41Speaker 1: you couldn't formally announce it until after the Super Bowl,
- 3:44Speaker 1: but you could have you know, Saints likely to hire
- 3:49Speaker 1: Kellen Moore and that would be the deal. But the
- 3:51Speaker 1: longer this goes on, it tells you they want to
- 3:53Speaker 1: talk in person with Mike McCarthy. Maybe it is Cliff
- 3:56Speaker 1: Kingsbury that they want to have a conversation with his
- 4:00Speaker 1: well that his season's over in Washington. I guess when
- 4:05Speaker 1: I look at Kellen Moore, he does, as I said,
- 4:09Speaker 1: check a lot of those boxes. But I don't know
- 4:11Speaker 1: if that's the necessary wow factor that you might have
- 4:15Speaker 1: gotten with some other coaches or candidates. I went back
- 4:21Speaker 1: and checked. So there were some early odds for who
- 4:25Speaker 1: would be the next Saints head coach, and I went
- 4:27Speaker 1: back and looked. On December the nineteenth, So this is
- 4:30Speaker 1: a little more than a month ago. On December the nineteenth,
- 4:33Speaker 1: there were sixteen names that had odds to be the
- 4:37Speaker 1: Saints head coach. Kellen Moore was not one of the sixteen.
- 4:43Speaker 1: Little more than a month ago, he wasn't even on
- 4:47Speaker 1: the list five days ago. Five days ago there were
- 4:56Speaker 1: seven names on that list. Now, Joe Brady was at
- 4:59Speaker 1: the top of the list, and of course then on
- 5:01Speaker 1: Saturday night, Joe Brady withdrew from consideration. Of the seven names,
- 5:08Speaker 1: Kellen Moore was sixth of the seven when it came
- 5:11Speaker 1: to odds. So all that to say, at no point
- 5:15Speaker 1: during this process until now has Kellen Moore been been
- 5:19Speaker 1: or perceived to have been the favorite to land this job.
- 5:23Speaker 1: But as we know, you didn't land Aaron Glenn, Joe
- 5:26Speaker 1: Brady pulled out of the process. So the guys who
- 5:29Speaker 1: we all thought were at the top of your list
- 5:31Speaker 1: aren't going to be there. So what do you do next?
- 5:35Speaker 1: I mean, you got to hire someone you know. But
- 5:38Speaker 1: I would also say, are you rushing with Kellen Moore?
- 5:44Speaker 1: Like did one game against the Washington Commanders all of
- 5:48Speaker 1: a sudden dramatically elevate his starts? Where you go yep,
- 5:51Speaker 1: that's our guy. And I don't know that I could
- 5:54Speaker 1: definitively say that the longer this goes on, the thing
- 5:59Speaker 1: that becomes more appealing to me is the is the
- 6:02Speaker 1: thing that I've floated a few times that I don't
- 6:04Speaker 1: think the Saints are actually going to consider, but I
- 6:07Speaker 1: do think would be the best path forward here, which
- 6:10Speaker 1: is to retain Darren Rizzy for one year. Now, you
- 6:14Speaker 1: don't retain Darren Rizzy and tell him he's being hired
- 6:16Speaker 1: for one year, and you don't go into it with
- 6:19Speaker 1: that intention, because what if he has a great season, awesible,
- 6:23Speaker 1: then he keeps the job. But when I look at
- 6:27Speaker 1: the Saints, there's just so much that's very obviously going
- 6:33Speaker 1: against New Orleans here, and a lot of it that
- 6:36Speaker 1: could be rectified. For twenty twenty six, you would have
- 6:41Speaker 1: I mean, you have no dead money on the books
- 6:43Speaker 1: right now for twenty twenty six. You have a sixty
- 6:48Speaker 1: million dollars in cap space for twenty twenty six. Now
- 6:50Speaker 1: that it's gonna change because you're gonna have to do
- 6:51Speaker 1: some contract restructuring and that number is gonna come down,
- 6:54Speaker 1: but you're gonna be closer to even or could potentially
- 6:58Speaker 1: be closer to even twenty twenty six on the salary cap.
- 7:05Speaker 1: I think you'll probably have a top five pick because
- 7:07Speaker 1: you're gonna be really bad in twenty twenty five. And
- 7:11Speaker 1: so the same way that the Raiders hired Antonio Pierce
- 7:15Speaker 1: and fired him after one season and got Pete Carroll,
- 7:18Speaker 1: or New England hired girod Mayo internally fired him after
- 7:22Speaker 1: one season, landed on Mike Frabel, maybe the same thing
- 7:25Speaker 1: Dallas is doing right now, Brian Schottenheimer. I will see
- 7:29Speaker 1: if maybe next year they're in the market again. I
- 7:35Speaker 1: just think a year from now, the Saint's job is
- 7:37Speaker 1: more attractive to a potential candidate. So why not have
- 7:42Speaker 1: Darren Rizzy be, in essence, a lame duck coach, a
- 7:47Speaker 1: sacrificial lamb to just steer the ship into this storm
- 7:51Speaker 1: that's coming in twenty twenty five, and then when you
- 7:54Speaker 1: find calmer sees in twenty twenty six, you go hire
- 8:00Speaker 1: your speedboat captain, whoever's going to take you, and take
- 8:02Speaker 1: that thing you hope to the moon. I don't think
- 8:06Speaker 1: that's what Mickey Loomis and the Saints Brass we're thinking
- 8:08Speaker 1: right now, but that seems like a more plausible option,
- 8:13Speaker 1: playing a long term game instead of thinking you're going
- 8:15Speaker 1: to get this right for twenty twenty five. Because I
- 8:18Speaker 1: don't know that Kellen Moore is the guy the Saints.
- 8:22Speaker 1: It feels like they'd be settling. You got to hire somebody.
- 8:26Speaker 1: So Kellen Moore, okay, when five weeks ago he wasn't
- 8:32Speaker 1: even on your list, and now he's the guy. Look,
- 8:34Speaker 1: that can reveal itself through the process. So we'll see
- 8:40Speaker 1: what ultimately they do. We'll see if Cliff Kingsbury agrees
- 8:43Speaker 1: to an interview, if the Saints want to interview, and
- 8:45Speaker 1: if they do in fact interview Mike McCarthy, Kellen Moore
- 8:50Speaker 1: just said no Kingsbury. Oh Kingsbury okay, right now? Yeah, Okay,
- 8:55Speaker 1: Kingsbury Okay. So Kingsbury is a no go. So you're
- 8:58Speaker 1: not going to go forward with Cliff Kingsbury. So that's
- 9:01Speaker 1: another name off your list. I don't know how realistic
- 9:03Speaker 1: that was to begin with, but now theory be down
- 9:09Speaker 1: to those two more McCarthy, Rizzy or Weaver Kafka who've
- 9:16Speaker 1: already interviewed. I mean, that's not exactly a list that
- 9:21Speaker 1: instills a ton of confidence in what direction your organization
- 9:24Speaker 1: might be heading. So if it is Kellen Moore, it's
- 9:28Speaker 1: what it is, we'll talk about it when it happens.
- 9:30Speaker 1: But if it happens, but I am, I am leaning
- 9:35Speaker 1: more and more toward the feeling of, hey, look retain Rizzy,
- 9:42Speaker 1: go into the tank for a year, just take your medicine,
- 9:45Speaker 1: go through the storm, understand what it's going to be,
- 9:48Speaker 1: and then next year you'll be in a healthier situation
- 9:52Speaker 1: to find the right person long term who could hopefully
- 9:56Speaker 1: bring you back to being a competitor or in a contender.
- 9:59Speaker 1: But it ain't right now, and I don't know that
- 10:00Speaker 1: it's Callin Moore.