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Modern Day Fairytales · Boozy Banter with Friends

• 0:18
  Leyla Zmeskal: Hello and welcome to boozy banter,
• 0:20
  Diane Black: With friends.
• 0:21
  Leyla Zmeskal: I'm Leyla.
• 0:22
  Trisha Smith: I'm Trisha.
• 0:23
  Diane Black: I'm Diane.
• 0:24
  Leyla Zmeskal: Grab your favorite spirit and join us because shits about to get real.
• 0:37
  Leyla Zmeskal: Hello.
• 0:39
  Trisha Smith: Hi. Getting back in the swing of things.
• 0:43
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yes we are. I know it seems like we haven't done this in over a week and a half maybe.
• 0:50
  Trisha Smith: Yeah. But no it's been just literally days.
• 0:55
  Leyla Zmeskal: Days see? Oh the old age, comes on to you
• 1:04
  Trisha Smith: Getting a little bit of the old timers?
• 1:06
  Leyla Zmeskal: Eh, whatcha say sonny? I know it's terrible,
• 1:12
  Trisha Smith: But it's December.
• 1:15
  Leyla Zmeskal: Ho, ho, ho.
• 1:17
  Trisha Smith: I've been waitng for a long time for this.
• 1:20
  Leyla Zmeskal: With all of the things that involve Christmas.
• 1:24
  Trisha Smith: 335 days I've been waiting. I hope that's the right number.
• 1:28
  Leyla Zmeskal: Oh my god. I'm looking at you like wow, Trisha that's pretty amazing.
• 1:34
  Trisha Smith: 365 days a year,
• 1:36
  Leyla Zmeskal: Right.
• 1:36
  Trisha Smith: 31 days in December.
• 1:38
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah,
• 1:38
  Trisha Smith: It's actually 334 sorry.
• 1:42
  Leyla Zmeskal: Damn, look at you doin quick math.
• 1:43
  Trisha Smith: I know I'm doing the math after drinking.
• 1:46
  Leyla Zmeskal: You must be a smarty.
• 1:48
  Trisha Smith: No, I think the Bourbons like turned me into a Rain Man.
• 1:53
  Leyla Zmeskal: You have mixed up a fantastic cocktail to start December.
• 1:58
  Trisha Smith: It is delicious.
• 2:01
  Leyla Zmeskal: It's so good.
• 2:02
  Trisha Smith: But like I was just saying I'm gonna have to hurry up and get on with my story because this is a very potent
• 2:10
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yes when you read the ingredients off.
• 2:13
  Leyla Zmeskal: Technically, it's potent.
• 2:15
  Trisha Smith: There's no technically about it, this is no have one mi
• 2:19
  Leyla Zmeskal: It has drops of bitters.
• 2:23
  Trisha Smith: Drops. It has four teeny tiny droppers, like drops from a dropper,
• 2:31
  Leyla Zmeskal: Of bitters.
• 2:32
  Trisha Smith: Yes,
• 2:32
  Leyla Zmeskal: And times two, or is that.
• 2:34
  Trisha Smith: That's total.
• 2:36
  Leyla Zmeskal: Oh, yikes.
• 2:39
  Trisha Smith: But it is yummy.
• 2:39
  Trisha Smith: So our drink today is a chocolate old fashioned.
• 2:46
  Leyla Zmeskal: Holy Biscuits.
• 2:48
  Trisha Smith: It's really good.
• 2:49
  Leyla Zmeskal: So good.
• 2:51
  Trisha Smith: I mean, anytime you can do a little chocolate, but yeah, this isn't. I mean, this is. This is good.
• 2:58
  Leyla Zmeskal: It's so good.
• 2:59
  Trisha Smith: So,
• 3:00
  Leyla Zmeskal: Tell us what's in it?
• 3:02
  Trisha Smith: Ah, it's got one of our favorite bourbons, Town Branch.
• 3:06
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yep,
• 3:07
  Trisha Smith: In there and which, on its own is delicious.
• 3:12
  Trisha Smith: But we did mix it with. Is it valid? tins? ballotine volitans.
• 3:18
  Trisha Smith: I'm not a like, I don't drink that. I hear a lot of people ask me about it. Because I guess it's kind of hard to find now.
• 3:24
  Leyla Zmeskal: But it's funny because every time I go into my local ABC, I see the chocolate and I also see the sea salt caramel one, right.
• 3:32
  Trisha Smith: But yeah, it's the Balladins Chocolate Whiskey.
• 3:35
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah,
• 3:36
  Trisha Smith: And it is delicious.
• 3:39
  Leyla Zmeskal: Pair that with some bourbon and some,
• 3:43
  Trisha Smith: A couple drops of chocolate, bitters. And, uh, and I put a couple drops of spice cherry bitters. You can use the cherry or you can do the orange, whichever, and I'm not a big citrus person. So I put the cherry and it is so good. It's, it's so this is like a chocolate milkshake for adults. But no cream cream.
• 4:09
  Leyla Zmeskal: Also, you took melted chocolate and you lined the rim. You kind of like smeared it. So every time you take a sip of your drink, you're getting chocolate. There's no heat, no nothing. No heat from the bourbon, no heat from the whiskey. Nothing. It is so smooth, so smooth. And that chocolate rim fools you because you're not thinking that you're drinking a heavily alcohol drink, which I mean clearly it's all alcohol. But that damn chocolate rim tricks your mind into because it's so smooth, right? It's delicious.
• 4:55
  Trisha Smith: I mean, it's about a little over three ounces of between the two between the whiskey and the bourbon, but of course I doubled it.
• 5:04
  Leyla Zmeskal: Well it looks so small in the glass.
• 5:07
  Trisha Smith: It did, either we gotta get smaller glasses or I gotta make bigger portions and that's what I did.
• 5:12
  Leyla Zmeskal: This is just a simple traditional rocks glass.
• 5:16
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah, even I was looking at like, really? Yeah. What are we gonna do? We're gonna do shots, which I'm okay with shots. You know?
• 5:27
  Trisha Smith: Have you ever seen me do a shot of anything? Never.
• 5:31
  Leyla Zmeskal: Oh my god. I don't think I've ever seen you do a shot.
• 5:33
  Trisha Smith: Exactly. I just I'm a sipper.
• 5:36
  Leyla Zmeskal: I'll do a damn shot.
• 5:37
  Trisha Smith: Well, you know, I like to say I'm a sipper. I've been known to chug, but not shots.
• 5:47
  Leyla Zmeskal: I'll do a shot.
• 5:47
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah,
• 5:51
  Trisha Smith: We already know Diane does her shots.
• 5:53
  Leyla Zmeskal: Diane's a shooter,
• 5:55
  Trisha Smith: Diane's a shooter.
• 5:55
  Trisha Smith: But yeah, not me.
• 5:58
  Leyla Zmeskal: Damn.
• 5:59
  Trisha Smith: I can't do it. So anyways, so today, I know we usually figure out you know.
• 6:08
  Leyla Zmeskal: What were watching and what we're reading.
• 6:11
  Trisha Smith: You know what we did just watch. And I mean, it's not on anymore. But we went back and pulled it up on Hulu. And we watched the series of The Exorcist.
• 6:25
  Leyla Zmeskal: We did.
• 6:26
  Trisha Smith: That was good.
• 6:28
  Leyla Zmeskal: I thoroughly enjoyed the we watched the first season together, right. And I thoroughly enjoyed that.
• 6:35
  Trisha Smith: It was so good.
• 6:35
  Trisha Smith: And that all came about because we listened to a podcast called inside the exorcist. And it's by Wondery. And that was excellent.
• 6:50
  Leyla Zmeskal: Oh, that was so good.
• 6:50
  Trisha Smith: So creepy. And such a good just the whole how
• 6:53
  Leyla Zmeskal: Oh, absolutely.
• 6:54
  Leyla Zmeskal: it came about, about the director about the author of the book. And the he was also the screenwriter. And it was so good. And after we listened to that, I told Leyla, I said, ave you seen the series? We've een the movie, but have you seen the series? She hadn't. So we pu led that up? And we were obses ed?
• 7:17
  Trisha Smith: Two, three episodes a night.
• 7:19
  Leyla Zmeskal: Well, they're short. So it's easy to go through a couple a episodes.
• 7:21
  Trisha Smith: No commercials.
• 7:21
  Trisha Smith: Like 45 minutes. Yeah. And then
• 7:23
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah, when you got home you started listening or watching the season two.
• 7:30
  Trisha Smith: Yeah, which is not like a continuation,
• 7:33
  Leyla Zmeskal: Nope.
• 7:34
  Trisha Smith: Mostly like they have the same, mostly the same.
• 7:38
  Trisha Smith: It's got characters,
• 7:39
  Leyla Zmeskal: It has the main characters, but also has a few references that continue on.
• 7:42
  Leyla Zmeskal: Like it's still the same kind of you know, some of the things still from the first season are still present in the second season. Not very many though. So don't get your hopes up. But I like season two and I'm after watching the complete season two, which I also binge watch that as well. I was so disappointed that because they left it open for a whole other season.
• 8:10
  Trisha Smith: I don't know why they canceled it. It was so good and so different. I mean if I have to watch, I don't watch them. But if I have to see one more show about firefighters, detectives, hospitals,
• 8:25
  Leyla Zmeskal: I can't do the hospitals.
• 8:26
  Trisha Smith: I mean, come on.
• 8:26
  Trisha Smith: Yeah, a law firm. I mean, how many freakin shows do you need?
• 8:31
  Trisha Smith: So ridiculous.
• 8:36
  Leyla Zmeskal: And there's no hot people in them at all. If it was firefighters taking off their shirts battling brush fires, shirtless with just suspenders in their little firemen pants that,
• 8:47
  Trisha Smith: Rescuing a puppy,
• 8:49
  Leyla Zmeskal: Kitten from the tree,
• 8:50
  Trisha Smith: Kitten, I don't know what firefighters do clearly,
• 8:55
  Leyla Zmeskal: Firefighters rescue cats from trees Don't hate me because I said that okay. That's in my mind. They do.
• 9:04
  Trisha Smith: Right.
• 9:04
  Leyla Zmeskal: Shirtless.
• 9:04
  Trisha Smith: But they yeah, it's all their relationship drama,
• 9:08
  Leyla Zmeskal: And they're all cute, they all have washboard stomachs and muscles.
• 9:14
  Trisha Smith: You need to watch a Hallmark movie,
• 9:20
  Leyla Zmeskal: Of my god.
• 9:21
  Trisha Smith: We just talked about Hallmark movies and how if you lived in one it would never be cold.
• 9:26
  Leyla Zmeskal: You suckered me into one. I can't believe how easily I was suckered into one.
• 9:31
  Trisha Smith: Because it's purely make believe.
• 9:34
  Leyla Zmeskal: I couldn't believe it. I was like, holy shit. I'm suckered into this Hallmark movie.
• 9:38
  Trisha Smith: The girl never wore a coat. She did not lose her family,
• 9:44
  Leyla Zmeskal: Lodge.
• 9:44
  Trisha Smith: It was a lodge this time. Not a farm was a,
• 9:47
  Leyla Zmeskal: Family lodge,
• 9:48
  Trisha Smith: Family lodge, because miraculously a will appeared and she got to own it outright,
• 9:55
  Leyla Zmeskal: Right because her parents are taking care of her and when they died they did have have a clause in there for like life support that would pay off the lodge.
• 10:04
  Trisha Smith: Life Support?
• 10:07
  Leyla Zmeskal: Life insurance.
• 10:08
  Trisha Smith: Right,
• 10:09
  Leyla Zmeskal: That paid off the lodge, and all the money that she's been paying so far, she's gonna get back with interest. So not only did she get the family lodge, but also apparently she's got a hefty chunk of change coming her way.
• 10:22
  Trisha Smith: Because she lives in a Hallmark movie.
• 10:24
  Leyla Zmeskal: And she got the cutsey cutsey guy.
• 10:27
  Trisha Smith: Who was kind of a dirtbag to begin with. But then he changed his ways because he fell in love.
• 10:33
  Leyla Zmeskal: Well, he saw, he saw all the good the lodge does for people in the spirit of Christmas changed as to size to small hearts. Hey, Trisha. Hey Trisha,
• 10:47
  Trisha Smith: What,
• 10:48
  Leyla Zmeskal: Did you know guys have three knees?
• 10:52
  Trisha Smith: How,
• 10:53
  Leyla Zmeskal: A right knee, a left knee and a weenie? You're
• 11:03
  Trisha Smith: Thank you.
• 11:04
  Trisha Smith: welcome.
• 11:06
  Leyla Zmeskal: All right.
• 11:07
  Trisha Smith: I know, I've met some pretty big weenies though.
• 11:10
  Trisha Smith: They don't need a left knee. Not that, hey wait.
• 11:16
  Leyla Zmeskal: Even I'm like holy shnikies,
• 11:18
  Trisha Smith: Not those kind of weenies.
• 11:24
  Leyla Zmeskal: Again my brain.
• 11:24
  Leyla Zmeskal: I'm like, Whoa,
• 11:27
  Trisha Smith: I gotta remember who I'm talking to.
• 11:31
  Leyla Zmeskal: You know what I tried to do last night? I tried to make dinner, like a special dinner.
• 11:35
  Trisha Smith: Why?
• 11:36
  Leyla Zmeskal: Well because I wanted to. I wanted to do something I never did before. I wanted to make alligator.
• 11:42
  Trisha Smith: Oh,
• 11:43
  Leyla Zmeskal: Turns out all I had was a crock pot.
• 11:46
  Trisha Smith: Oh my god. Leyla
• 11:49
  Leyla Zmeskal: You fell right into that one.
• 11:51
  Trisha Smith: Shut it. Did you see my face?
• 11:52
  Leyla Zmeskal: Why? All right.
• 11:52
  Leyla Zmeskal: That's all I had. I just had two for you today. And I was able to get in both of them. Season Three is gonna be so good.
• 12:02
  Trisha Smith: Oh my God, you bought a book and everything.
• 12:04
  Leyla Zmeskal: I did buy a book.
• 12:04
  Leyla Zmeskal: I can't wait.
• 12:05
  Trisha Smith: No, I should hide it.
• 12:07
  Leyla Zmeskal: You should not.
• 12:08
  Trisha Smith: Did I hide it?
• 12:09
  Leyla Zmeskal: You better not.
• 12:10
  Trisha Smith: I should, I should try.
• 12:12
  Leyla Zmeskal: I'm gonna get Don to like send jokes to me.
• 12:14
  Trisha Smith: Don't even.
• 12:15
  Leyla Zmeskal: Oh, yeah,
• 12:16
  Trisha Smith: Then I gotta get it from both you. And then every now and then he's got to chime in with his,
• 12:23
  Leyla Zmeskal: I'll be like. Hey Don, I can't say this to her.
• 12:25
  Leyla Zmeskal: But you can. Like I'll share them with Don. All right, what you got for me today?
• 12:31
  Trisha Smith: Urban legends.
• 12:33
  Leyla Zmeskal: I love urban legend.
• 12:35
  Trisha Smith: I do too. But I'm only doing it because I got suckered into a couple,
• 12:40
  Leyla Zmeskal: That happens with urban legends.
• 12:42
  Trisha Smith: Like I thought they were real. But they're not real. They're completely fake.
• 12:47
  Leyla Zmeskal: Wait, is there any, there has to be some kind
• 12:48
  Trisha Smith: Not all the time,
• 12:49
  Leyla Zmeskal: Really.
• 12:49
  Trisha Smith: So urban legends are defined as a type of of truth to it for it to become an urban legend though, like whether it's a story that's been like the telephone game that's folklore that's comprised of stories circulated as true.
• 12:56
  Trisha Smith: been blown completely out of proportion, there has to be some some small semblance of like a true event.
• 13:14
  Leyla Zmeskal: All right, well, you proved me wrong.
• 13:16
  Trisha Smith: They're usually something that happened to a friend of a friend or a family member. And they're often with horrifying or humorous elements.
• 13:26
  Trisha Smith: But today, I'm only focusing on what would be considered horrifying.
• 13:34
  Leyla Zmeskal: Oh because I enjoy the humorous ones too.
• 13:38
  Trisha Smith: But I yeah, I'm gonna skip over the humorous jump straight, but it is what you make of it. Because there are some stories that now as adults, we're like, Oh, my God, that's so you know? Yeah. You know what I mean? It's all perspective.
• 13:52
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah, someone falls down. You know, that's funny to me.
• 13:56
  Trisha Smith: Sure, it is.
• 13:58
  Leyla Zmeskal: I mean, I'll see if you're okay, but it's funny.
• 14:01
  Trisha Smith: So we were, we were out one day, and the lady fell off her stool.
• 14:08
  Leyla Zmeskal: Oh my God, she did fall off her stool.
• 14:10
  Trisha Smith: You didn't laugh?
• 14:10
  Trisha Smith: I will give you bonus points for that. But I had what 10 minutes earlier said we can't sit at a high top because I will fall off the stool and she came waltz in and sat down and two seconds later fell off her stool.
• 14:25
  Leyla Zmeskal: She even laid there on the ground for a damn good 30 Damn seconds, enough for the girl across the way, that was behind the counter to come out from the counter and walk over to see if she's okay.
• 14:35
  Trisha Smith: Right. And she was laughing which is why I'm laugh.
• 14:38
  Leyla Zmeskal: Do you know what her friend did?
• 14:40
  Trisha Smith: Laughed at her.
• 14:41
  Leyla Zmeskal: She sat in the damn stool, looked down at her and said she's cut off. She hasn't had anything all day to day but she's cut off.
• 14:51
  Trisha Smith: She didn't even get up and help her.
• 14:53
  Leyla Zmeskal: There were no fucks given right then. She's like this is why I can't take you anywhere.
• 15:01
  Trisha Smith: I can relate some times, because if I had fallin off my stool. You want to just sat there and looked at me a little bit. Oh my god, are you okay? And as soon as I said, Yes, you will not been able to talk for 10 minutes, cause you be laughing so hard, I know these things.
• 15:21
  Leyla Zmeskal: Well, the time well think of the time that you have. You had the hard time taking the pill.
• 15:27
  Trisha Smith: I almost died, almost die.
• 15:34
  Leyla Zmeskal: It was like the teeny little tinist little, what was it a vitamin or an aspirin or something?
• 15:39
  Trisha Smith: It was an eye or anti inflammatory? That's the shoulder thing. Yeah. And I was trying to take the NA, the inflammatory pill, whatever. And I can't take pills. I just can't do it. So I'm like prepared to die. And I go to take it and actually start to die. And Leyl looks at me and busts out l ughing, sh
• 16:12
  Leyla Zmeskal: If she's if she's coughing, she's breathing.
• 16:14
  Leyla Zmeskal: That's what they teach you.
• 16:15
  Trisha Smith: Oh, my God.
• 16:15
  Trisha Smith: Anyhow.
• 16:18
  Leyla Zmeskal: Anyhow,
• 16:19
  Trisha Smith: I started looking into the urban legends, because twice now, twice, I've heard about stories that were I know, so creepy and weird. And I got super excited about them. And then I found out they weren't true.
• 16:32
  Leyla Zmeskal: Oh, man,
• 16:33
  Trisha Smith: I know
• 16:34
  Leyla Zmeskal: Nothings more of a bummer?
• 16:35
  Trisha Smith: Right. People think they are. Which is? That's what's fascinating to me. How many? I mean, I don't know how many times we've heard something. It's like, oh, let me check the Googles immediately.
• 16:46
  Trisha Smith: And people are just like taking other people in their word, which I'm like, doesn't matter who it is, they could still be?
• 16:55
  Leyla Zmeskal: Well, I don't know anything like that, that's going on now a days.
• 16:59
  Trisha Smith: Shut it, So really, urban legends are just modern day fairy tales. Stories like Little Red Riding Hood, or Goldie Locks were originally spread by word of mouth as cautionary tales, which is how many of our current urban legends began and why they vary from place to place. Kind of a cool connection there. Even the current urban legends can take on completely different spins, because of books and movies nowadays, so I mean, there's a movie called Urban legends. Do you remember?
• 17:38
  Leyla Zmeskal: That's right.
• 17:39
  Trisha Smith: Yeah.
• 17:40
  Leyla Zmeskal: What is it like the 80s, 90s?
• 17:43
  Trisha Smith: It was from the 90s. Yeah, I think,
• 17:46
  Leyla Zmeskal: I think I seen that, but God, it's been so long ago.
• 17:48
  Leyla Zmeskal: Right.
• 17:48
  Trisha Smith: Right now, we all know about popular urban legends, So most of us know about Bloody Mary. You know,
• 17:56
  Leyla Zmeskal: I think we talked about it,
• 17:57
  Trisha Smith: We talked about it in our games episode.
• 18:01
  Leyla Zmeskal: I think that was episode 13. of season one. The games people play.
• 18:06
  Trisha Smith: Yeah, there's also the spider bite, where a spider or an ant will bite you and lay eggs and your skin and then explodes out? Yeah, that can't happen. But it is an urban legend that it can spiders get to a lot of people I think that's why the idea of a spider biting you and laying its eggs under your skin. So yeah, so the hook man.
• 18:30
  Leyla Zmeskal: Oh, look, man,
• 18:31
  Trisha Smith: you know you guy in a girl drive their car. You know and park?
• 18:38
  Leyla Zmeskal: Some lovers lane.
• 18:39
  Trisha Smith: Yeah, and then they hear a screeching sound. So the guy gets out. And yeah, you know the hook man gets them Okay. Which you know that's a tale about,
• 18:50
  Leyla Zmeskal: I thought they made a movie about that.
• 18:52
  Trisha Smith: They probably did.
• 18:52
  Trisha Smith: They probably did. So in your that's like one of those don't go up to wherever you go to do the things with your boyfriend because the hook man will get Yeah, freaky foods,
• 19:03
  Leyla Zmeskal: Freaky foods?
• 19:04
  Trisha Smith: So like, do you remember I think it was probably the 90s Like when or late or early 2000s where they start posting pictures of like, the weird deformed chicken and they're like, Oh, this is really what KFC is serving.
• 19:18
  Leyla Zmeskal: Oh, yeah.
• 19:19
  Trisha Smith: Or, Pop Rocks, in your soda will make your stomach explode.
• 19:25
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yes.
• 19:26
  Trisha Smith: Yeah.
• 19:26
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yes. So if you swallow apple seeds, then a tree will grow inside your stomach.
• 19:31
  Trisha Smith: Right. Right. So again, urban legend, because your stomach won't explode. If you have soda and pop rocks you might have you might be uncomfortable.
• 19:42
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah,
• 19:43
  Trisha Smith: You know, it's not gonna explode.
• 19:45
  Leyla Zmeskal: Right.
• 19:45
  Trisha Smith: So organ harvesting. Yep, you go out on a date and then you go then you wake up the next morning. You're in a hotel covered in ice because somebody took your kidney.
• 19:56
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yep, yep.
• 19:57
  Trisha Smith: And then chain letters, which that started like in I don't even know. I remember that in the 80s. So but they were physical letters,
• 20:04
  Leyla Zmeskal: And now they're email.
• 20:06
  Trisha Smith: Now they're emails that if you don't forward this, you're gonna have bad luck.
• 20:09
  Leyla Zmeskal: For the next 29 years.
• 20:11
  Trisha Smith: Forward or die.
• 20:11
  Trisha Smith: Yeah. So those are, those are some that we're all familiar with. Right. So I'm going to tell you about the two stories I heard that technically are urban legends. They're not real at all, but they're presented as real and they were really fascinating. And I thought they were real. I mean, I legitimately thought they were real. Okay. All right. So the first one starts near the town of Leesville, Louisiana, where there was once a haunted attraction, called, The Farmer Graves Haunted Orchard.
• 20:49
  Leyla Zmeskal: Never heard of it.
• 20:50
  Trisha Smith: I've never heard of it either. There's a reason for that. In 2014, they created a new attraction that appeared to be nothing more than a rundown shack from the outside.
• 21:04
  Trisha Smith: And inside, there were only floor to ceiling mirrors on the walls all set up at certain angles and facing each other.
• 21:12
  Leyla Zmeskal: Okay,
• 21:13
  Trisha Smith: Like a funhouse mirrors weren't curved. They were just set up a weird angles, right? It's unclear what the intent of the attraction was supposed to be. But it was said to be inspired by the Clive Barker Hellraiser movies from the 80s.
• 21:33
  Leyla Zmeskal: I remember those,
• 21:34
  Trisha Smith: Right. This all becomes the basis for the weird and paranormal things that began to happen there and earn the room the name, The Devils Toy Box.
• 21:45
  Leyla Zmeskal: Oh, okay. All right.
• 21:48
  Trisha Smith: So the main story is that people couldn't stay in the room more than five minutes, with the average only being a minute or so before mysterious symptoms began to set in.
• 22:00
  Trisha Smith: Ranging from nausea, headaches, trembling, dizziness, muscle pain, hallucinations, and seizures. The longest.
• 22:09
  Leyla Zmeskal: Wow.
• 22:09
  Trisha Smith: I know, right?
• 22:09
  Trisha Smith: That's a lot of that's, yeah, the longest anyone ever stayed in the devil's toy box was allegedly 4 minutes. 37 seconds by a 52 year old father of three named Roger Heights,
• 22:25
  Leyla Zmeskal: Roger Heights had no fucks to give.
• 22:27
  Trisha Smith: Exactly. But upon exiting, he supposedly entered a near vegetative state and never spoke again.
• 22:36
  Leyla Zmeskal: Did his wife put them up to that? Little did we know Roger was complete asshole.
• 22:39
  Leyla Zmeskal: That was a present from his wife.
• 22:44
  Trisha Smith: You know, I have some people I'd like to send into the devil's toy box. I'm gonna say that. It was said that if someone stayed in the shack too long, it would make them stark raving mad, and even drive them to suicide. Tales tell of people running screaming from the room. Or I've seen ghosts and demons while inside. And if you stayed in there long enough, the devil himself would appear to you. There were even reports of people going in and never coming out, never to be seen again.
• 23:16
  Leyla Zmeskal: How does that happen?
• 23:17
  Trisha Smith: I don't know, listen to the rest of the story.
• 23:19
  Leyla Zmeskal: All right.
• 23:19
  Trisha Smith: With all of this going on. The owners of the farmer graves haunted orchard, a middle aged couple named Will and Darlene Saywer had the attraction shut down. But the devils toy box still sits out there abandoned. Sightings of shadow people and strange creatures lurking in the woods around it were reported by people trespassing on the property. Some say the shack was burned down by a young man named John Tyler. After he found it and experienced the strange effects. There was a lot of discussion about if this place was real. And if so why it was driving people mad. Some people speculated that the mirrors were somehow attracting paranormal energy and opening doorways that shouldn't be opened. We've heard about that,
• 24:08
  Leyla Zmeskal: We've heard about that.
• 24:09
  Trisha Smith: Right. There have been claims of creating smaller versions of the devil's toy box, and you can even find instructions for making one online.
• 24:20
  Leyla Zmeskal: I feel like of course you can,
• 24:22
  Trisha Smith: I feel like Diane, you know, she'd be like Why? Why would you don that.
• 24:26
  Leyla Zmeskal: Why would you do that? Why?
• 24:28
  Trisha Smith: After all that, and even claims by some paranormal investigators that they had actually been there and investigated the shack. It turns out, the story is completely made up,
• 24:40
  Leyla Zmeskal: Of course it is,
• 24:41
  Trisha Smith: By author Joel Farrelly from the website Thought Catalog. Apparently they had added a creepy category to their site similar to Reddits no sleep thread that has stories that seem to be true. So he wanted to create a new urban legend. He says he was completely shocked to see how far his stir story had spread, posted and reposted and believed by so many people as real that he was compelled to admit it was fiction, because it seemed to be getting out of hand. But even after doing so, even after telling people, it's all BS,
• 25:19
  Leyla Zmeskal: Oh good lord.
• 25:23
  Leyla Zmeskal: people have continued to insist it's real. And tell stories of their experiences at the devil's Toy Box.
• 25:32
  Trisha Smith: So it's like, so where are you going? I think it's weird that people are like, it's completely not true. But I've been there.
• 25:40
  Leyla Zmeskal: Really? Have you seen what's freakin happen in in today's world? People will believe anything as fact and run with it. If it's something that is possibly interest them, and some slightest way, oh, God, it's real. Oh, God it's true.
• 25:59
  Trisha Smith: I just think it weird that people even after they know, yeah, even after they know. It's who this guy is like, Dude, I wrote that. And they're like, but I went there. It's like, what are you on?
• 26:12
  Leyla Zmeskal: I think it's fairly cool that the guy was like, Hey, I wonder. Let's just throw this out there. And I wonder like, where it goes,
• 26:20
  Trisha Smith: Right.
• 26:21
  Leyla Zmeskal: Like, that would be something I would do.
• 26:22
  Trisha Smith: Yeah,
• 26:23
  Leyla Zmeskal: Just to say. And then at first you'd have fun with it and go can you believe the people that are buying this.
• 26:31
  Leyla Zmeskal: But like, that guy would get to a point where you're like, holy crap, it's it's starting to get out of hand and you have to let people know that all right, are you know what this was just, it was just a story. I just wanted to see how far it would go and,
• 26:44
  Trisha Smith: There is no haunted attraction. The people that created it aren't even real. You know, I just like I made this up and people are still looking for it. I mean, it's just a lot. And to have paranormal investigators being like, yeah, we want to do,
• 27:00
  Leyla Zmeskal: Paranormal investigators actually encounter true paranormal things I would have to say a very, very, very slim number.
• 27:10
  Trisha Smith: Right? I think it's few and far between. I mean, why I feel like so many people have started doing that themselves like right why they're searching because I think and when you do watch any of these shows, which I watch very few of these,
• 27:26
  Leyla Zmeskal: They find something every show.
• 27:28
  Trisha Smith: They find something every show and it's always very minimal. It's always very minimal. I mean, I walk out in my yard in the middle of the night. Going to bed at night I think I hear things that I know are nothing.
• 27:43
  Leyla Zmeskal: Well I don't know you think you might have some hing in your house Trisha. Now I've never spent the night in our house. So I don't know for ure. Like I've never had exper ences here, ah wait, I did have we did,
• 27:58
  Trisha Smith: Here?
• 27:58
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yes inside this recording room. Remember where the scratching on the carpet and I was where I'm looking at you,
• 28:05
  Trisha Smith: We thought it was the cat, but it wasn't the cat.
• 28:07
  Leyla Zmeskal: And I'm looking at you like what is she doing over there? And I heard the scratches on the carpet.
• 28:12
  Leyla Zmeskal: Alright, that was weird. And it literally sound like somebody's like scratching the carpet.
• 28:17
  Trisha Smith: Right. Yeah,
• 28:18
  Leyla Zmeskal: That was a little weird.
• 28:19
  Trisha Smith: That was weird.
• 28:19
  Trisha Smith: Yeah, my daughter was gone so there was nobody else upstairs and we couldn't find the cat I thought it was a cat out so the door but yeah, cat so,
• 28:27
  Leyla Zmeskal: But outside your door is not carpeted. Just the bedroom is carpeted.
• 28:31
  Trisha Smith: That's right.
• 28:31
  Leyla Zmeskal: Is the closet carpeted?
• 28:33
  Trisha Smith: It is.
• 28:33
  Leyla Zmeskal: Okay. But it didn't sound like it was in the closet.
• 28:38
  Trisha Smith: Right. Right.
• 28:39
  Leyla Zmeskal: sounded like it was close to you.
• 28:40
  Trisha Smith: It was like around here.
• 28:42
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah,
• 28:42
  Trisha Smith: I thought I really thought it was the cat.
• 28:44
  Leyla Zmeskal: I thought it was you. I thought you were doing something because you were like messing with something and, and I keep looking like is that Trisha? Is that Trisha making the noise? And then I the last time I heard I was like that aint fuckin Trisha. So was there something else? I don't know.
• 29:01
  Trisha Smith: I do have a lot of odd things happening. Yeah, unexplained. But you know, I mean, I've never looked for anything either. So,
• 29:09
  Leyla Zmeskal: Tight, right.
• 29:11
  Trisha Smith: So anyways, yeah, that was that's, a
• 29:13
  Leyla Zmeskal: A good one.
• 29:14
  Trisha Smith: That was you know, I when I first read about I was so excited. I'm like, this is super creepy. And then when I found out,
• 29:20
  Leyla Zmeskal: I mean, we did name like the devil's toys.
• 29:22
  Trisha Smith: I mean, of course somebody wrote it's too good. So the second story that I got super excited about,
• 29:30
  Leyla Zmeskal: Okay,
• 29:30
  Trisha Smith: We actually learned about from someone we met on a road trip we recently took.
• 29:37
  Trisha Smith: What?
• 29:38
  Trisha Smith: Yeah, so,
• 29:40
  Leyla Zmeskal: I'm curious. I'm very curious about this one.
• 29:42
  Trisha Smith: On this road trip.
• 29:42
  Trisha Smith: We met a fascinating woman named Diana.
• 29:47
  Leyla Zmeskal: I did meet Diana.
• 29:49
  Trisha Smith: You did, and,
• 29:51
  Leyla Zmeskal: Diana, you know who you are.
• 29:53
  Trisha Smith: We're calling out, so she shared some of her experiences being clairvoyant.
• 30:00
  Leyla Zmeskal: She did.
• 30:00
  Trisha Smith: Right, while we were there, and then she followed up in an email.
• 30:04
  Leyla Zmeskal: Oh, she did write us an email?
• 30:05
  Trisha Smith: She did.
• 30:07
  Leyla Zmeskal: Diana, I didn't read your email. I'm gonna read it right now. I mean, not right now but when were done I'm going to read it. Thank you
• 30:13
  Trisha Smith: She you suggested we visit the Dent schoolhouse in Cincinnati.
• 30:19
  Leyla Zmeskal: She totally talked to me about that school house that night. And I was like, Please, could you just could you just send me an email because I won't remember it.
• 30:28
  Trisha Smith: Yes, she did.
• 30:29
  Leyla Zmeskal: Oh my god,
• 30:30
  Trisha Smith: Right. So she said, the next time we're in the area, we have to check it out.
• 30:33
  Leyla Zmeskal: The next time we're in area, we're totally looking you up and we're doing some shit.
• 30:38
  Trisha Smith: So while she was unsure of the actual history of the building, she did say she felt it was truly haunted when she visited. Let me just tell you a little bit about the building and then, you know, go on from there. So this is the story. Most people know about the Dent schoolhouse. The Dent Public School, opened in 1894 was one of the finest in the area, the best teachers and staff. It was highly successful.
• 31:08
  Trisha Smith: But in 1942, several students known for being troublesome mysteriously vanished and were last seen at the school.
• 31:17
  Leyla Zmeskal: That's almost like the Jacksonville schoolhouse.
• 31:19
  Trisha Smith: And that's exactly what I got. Right. So the Dent police investigated and concluded they must have run away because you know, they were troublemakers.
• 31:29
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah.
• 31:30
  Trisha Smith: Two years later, another four students disappeared. Rumors started to spread that the disappearances had something to do with the school. Despite the missing children, the school stayed open. But in 1952 three more students disappeared.
• 31:48
  Leyla Zmeskal: So that's a total of 4, 5, 6, 7, 8.
• 31:51
  Trisha Smith: We're up to, when I say several students, they didn't say,
• 31:56
  Leyla Zmeskal: Several to me is two,
• 31:58
  Trisha Smith: Several is more than two. two was a couple,
• 32:02
  Leyla Zmeskal: Oh whatever.
• 32:04
  Trisha Smith: But, but 4 students disappeared, and then another three, so let's say 10.
• 32:08
  Trisha Smith: So we're up to 10. Let's just say
• 32:12
  Leyla Zmeskal: Alright, fine.
• 32:13
  Trisha Smith: Students and staff began to complain about a strange smell coming from the basement.
• 32:21
  Leyla Zmeskal: Okay, hold on.
• 32:21
  Leyla Zmeskal: How many years was it from the first set of kids disappearing?
• 32:26
  Trisha Smith: So 1942 to 1952.
• 32:26
  Trisha Smith: So in 10 years, 10 estimate, an estimate of 10 kids.
• 32:34
  Leyla Zmeskal: And the smell is just now popping up?
• 32:37
  Trisha Smith: No, strange smell coming from the basement.
• 32:40
  Trisha Smith: Charlie McCaffrey, the school janitor said it was just the pipes clogging up.
• 32:45
  Leyla Zmeskal: It's always the janitor, janitor was the culprit in the Jacksonville school.
• 32:50
  Trisha Smith: Exactly. And after a few weeks, the smell subsided, rumors began to circulate about Charlie being involved with the disappearances. A few years later, a lot of few years going on here.
• 33:04
  Leyla Zmeskal: You know, a good story takes time Tricia,
• 33:06
  Trisha Smith: in 1955. Another seven students vanished and now we're up to 17.
• 33:12
  Leyla Zmeskal: All right.
• 33:13
  Trisha Smith: Now and the complaints about the smell coming from the basement began again.
• 33:17
  Leyla Zmeskal: Okay.
• 33:18
  Trisha Smith: It was so bad that children were passing out in class. Parents rally together and stormed the Dent Public School, busting through the doors and proceeding straight to the basement. What they found was a shocking and grisly scene.
• 33:35
  Trisha Smith: The basement was covered with the decaying remains of the missing students. Bodies were sealed in barrels that was part of the original ones they couldn't smell in my opinion.
• 33:48
  Leyla Zmeskal: I think they would have been decayed and boney right now.
• 33:51
  Trisha Smith: Wedged behind the brick walls and left decaying in various tubs throughout the room. A search for the janitor went on for over two weeks, but he was never found. The school was closed shortly after. And the building is now said to be haunted with the spirits of the children taken care of by the janitor.
• 34:13
  Leyla Zmeskal: That's what Diana said.
• 34:15
  Trisha Smith: It's rumored he came back several years after the school closed. But his body was never found. His Spirit supposedly still cleans the building and takes care of trespassers trying to sneak into his basement. Dun dun dun, dun.
• 34:34
  Trisha Smith: Okay, so here are the facts.
• 34:37
  Leyla Zmeskal: Give me the facts.
• 34:39
  Trisha Smith: That I could find.
• 34:40
  Leyla Zmeskal: Okay.
• 34:41
  Trisha Smith: Okay. They were all from the Cincinnati Enquirer archives.
• 34:46
  Leyla Zmeskal: Oh, okay.
• 34:46
  Trisha Smith: The school was built in 1894. Yes, but it actually closed in 1949. Wow.
• 34:50
  Trisha Smith: Six years before the parents stormed the building and to move to a new building nearby, the building was sold at auction in 1951 and turned into a Tool and Machine shop called Suburban Machine Company and stayed in business until the 1980s. The letters of that business can still be seen on the brick of the building today.
• 35:20
  Leyla Zmeskal: Oh, okay.
• 35:21
  Trisha Smith: But do you want to know what it is today?
• 35:23
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah,
• 35:23
  Trisha Smith: It's a haunted house.
• 35:24
  Leyla Zmeskal: Okay. Diana said that, bought it and turned it into a haunted house.
• 35:28
  Trisha Smith: Right. It opened in 1997 when the above story was created for the attraction.
• 35:36
  Leyla Zmeskal: Wow, that's been a long time.
• 35:38
  Trisha Smith: Right? Right. So,
• 35:40
  Leyla Zmeskal: That's a long running attraction,
• 35:41
  Trisha Smith: Right? 20 plus years.
• 35:43
  Leyla Zmeskal: That's pretty good for an attraction.
• 35:45
  Trisha Smith: Right? It's supposed to be one of the best haunted houses in the United States.
• 35:51
  Leyla Zmeskal: Really?
• 35:53
  Trisha Smith: What's surprising, is that so many people believe you know, that story that I just told you. is true. They're like, Oh, yeah, all these kids died here. But yeah, the Dent School House website claims it really happened. And every story you read trying to research the events shows, just when I set other websites, you know, they're just repeating what the new owners have put out, but there are no records no relatives of any of the missing children.
• 36:26
  Leyla Zmeskal: Okay,
• 36:27
  Trisha Smith: No newspaper stories. Absolutely nothing to corroborate the story of the murders. And no evidence whatsoever. Anyone named Charlie Macfree, but you know, it attracts 30,000,
• 36:43
  Leyla Zmeskal: Oh my goodness,
• 36:44
  Trisha Smith: Visitors a year.
• 36:46
  Leyla Zmeskal: Holy shnikies.
• 36:47
  Trisha Smith: Right. They are open for Halloween from September through October 31.
• 36:50
  Trisha Smith: They offer a lights on day so that kids can go through and trick or treet and not be scared. They have a lights out event during November where you go through in pitch black.
• 37:03
  Trisha Smith: That's supposed to be terrifying. People say they won't do it in the pitch black.
• 37:10
  Trisha Smith: And then they even have a holiday themed haunted house called, A Christmas Nightmare.
• 37:16
  Leyla Zmeskal: Oh, how adorable.
• 37:17
  Trisha Smith: In December some of their attractions include Krampus.
• 37:22
  Leyla Zmeskal: That is awesome, Holy shnikies that's awsome.
• 37:27
  Trisha Smith: They also offer a behind the scenes tour and a and ghost tours.
• 37:31
  Trisha Smith: Nice.
• 37:32
  Trisha Smith: So you can check them out at fright site.com So but Thank you Diana,
• 37:40
  Leyla Zmeskal: Thank you.
• 37:40
  Trisha Smith: Yeah, for giving us another location to check out it just sounds really cool and interesting. And like she said she did not know the the real history of the building. But from what she's felt when she's been in there, she said there's definitely some hauntings or some presence in there. It's definitely haunted. And it's been around since 1894. So
• 38:01
  Leyla Zmeskal: There's there I mean, something that old you know.
• 38:05
  Trisha Smith: Has some kind of residual energy I'm not sure.
• 38:07
  Leyla Zmeskal: You know what there might have been some like somebody died or something in there. You know, who knows especially if it's a tool shop for that long.
• 38:16
  Leyla Zmeskal: Right.
• 38:17
  Leyla Zmeskal: Tools equals accidents you know, you never know You just never know about those things but,
• 38:21
  Trisha Smith: But if you go to that website fright site.com And We'll in touch, Right.
• 38:25
  Trisha Smith: you click on the history of the Dent Schoolhouse, it shows like they made it seem so real down to a wanted poster for the the
• 38:32
  Leyla Zmeskal: Remember what we talked about.
• 38:38
  Leyla Zmeskal: janitor and he looks so creepy.
• 38:38
  Leyla Zmeskal: I mean they made it just sound o so, Diana, thank you so much or giving us this little tidbit.
• 38:49
  Leyla Zmeskal: We will hopefully we'll see ou s
• 38:55
  Trisha Smith: Absolutely,
• 38:56
  Leyla Zmeskal: You never know.
• 38:56
  Trisha Smith: Yeah. All right.
• 38:56
  Trisha Smith: That's it that's all I got for you.
• 39:00
  Leyla Zmeskal: That's it. Let's go make one of these delicious cocktails.
• 39:03
  Trisha Smith: Let's go do it.
• 39:05
  Leyla Zmeskal: I have one sip away for empty.
• 39:08
  Trisha Smith: Yeah, this is definitely a sip it around your fireplace cocktail because you're ass aint getting up to go anywhere after drinking a couple of these.
• 39:17
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah, double the recipe though because it was just piss you off that you have to get up and make another one so soon.
• 39:21
  Trisha Smith: This is a definitely a date cocktail because I've done nothing but lick the edge of this thing. I'm just saying right there. Maybe I should just stop now. Anyway, until next time, cheers.
• 39:36
  Leyla Zmeskal: Cheers.
• 39:37
  Leyla Zmeskal: Hey, like what you hear.
• 39:39
  Diane Black: Check us out on Instagram.
• 39:40
  Trisha Smith: Or send us a message at Boozy Banter With friends.com.
• 39:44
  Leyla Zmeskal: Thanks for listening.
• 39:45
  Trisha Smith: Until next time.
• 39:46
  Diane Black: late-a.