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WWE Money in the Bank, AEW Grand Slam France & More | POISONRANA LIVE 10/11/26 · Poisonrana

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[SPEAKER_00]: Poison Rana.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hello.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hello, hello, hello.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Brain-harington here with Davie Portman for Poison Rana.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Live.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You found us in your podcast app.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wherever you get your podcast and it's Sunday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: October 11th.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Spooky season and full effect, maybe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're going to talk about some money in the bank because Davie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We are live on youtube.com slash at poison round a pod.
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[SPEAKER_00]: YouTube room, how are we doing?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hello, all the frogs and friends worldwide out there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Drop us a little, little like, a little follow, a little subscribe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All the little things go a long way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Appreciate everyone out there, whether you're new listeners, old listeners want to say shout out to anyone who showed up to our money in the bank watch party downtown Toronto at the national in the well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We had quite the, quite the fun time as always.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: yeah, really happy with this one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think, you know, we do the big four.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We always know rumble and mania are big sell.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I even think sometimes since moving to two nights, it kind of not everyone wants to go to both nights of a summer slam or a mania.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I wasn't know how
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[SPEAKER_00]: What to expect with this one, and Toronto showed up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks, given weekend.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of people are away with families and stuff, but we had our own family going up the national.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And had a great time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The drinks are flowing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe too much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The pizza coming out of that oven all nice and good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Rises, raffles, Ober, Congolines, and the like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a great time at the national.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely, yes, if you're in the Toronto area, GTA area, give us a follow and check out because we will be doing some some other events including our first ever pro wrestling trivia night
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, Wednesday, November 4th.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We will be hanging out at party put downtown Toronto.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to do some trivia and then we're going to all get together and watch blood and guts, more information to come on that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, we're going to do a whole trivia night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We kind of like to sometimes mix in the trivia with our watch parties and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So this time we're officially doing like a pub quiz night, but it's about wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, during the pandemic, I think we were the trivia kings.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we were doing all of our, like, YouTube and Twitch, like, paper views where we're doing all our trivia games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think we're gonna incorporate some of those things that we learned during the pandemic in person live for this event.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's gonna be a lot of fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: trivia is going to start around 7pm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to be doing a lot of kind of more traditional questions before the event starts and then we'll be watching a W Dynamite blood and guts with the sound on and then we're going to be sprinkling some more trivia throughout those pesky commercial breaks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the action never stops.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and then we'll be crowning a winner.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Some prizes will be given out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm really looking forward to this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Party part on Duncan Street.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's Duncan and Adelaide in Toronto.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, be there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll be putting out more information on poisonrunner.ca for how to get involved, how to register your team, how to get tickets.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But really excited about this one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We thought about doing trivia before and just wondering how it's going to work and these guys approached us and asked if we want to do it, so we were like, oh yeah, let's do it and I'm really excited yeah if you've come or you've seen on our socials are wrestling events are always fun even if you
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know are used to watch a wrestling by yourself with a big group of people whether it's friends strangers soon to be friends big group of people all do in the wrestling chance and I don't know just feel like a nice little community and doing a trivia night around wrestling should be pretty fun I know I've seen in Toronto there's trivia nights on everything sims in trivia night fluffy trivia night breaking bad trivia night so
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[SPEAKER_01]: trivia trivia night i've seen that other people have done wrestling in fact many many years ago me you john in ways we went to one and we were like is it weird we're at a WWE trivia night and then we won
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like we felt, we didn't, we didn't know how we felt about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like is it cheating that the four wrestling nerds who specifically do a lot of podcasting about wrestling, the wrestling trivia night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So this time we're hosting it and it's going to be a lot of fun, stay tuned for more information, but if you're in the Toronto area, I would love to see you and come out and play because we're going to have some prizes and some fun stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We had a raffle yesterday, someone went home with the undisputed
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[SPEAKER_01]: WWF Championship, talking the triple H1, the Hulk Hogan one, the WWF scratch logo on it, not the Eddie Guerrero, JBL, WWE one, no, no, no, WWF.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Someone went home with that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The stone cold vest, a DX, suck at Jersey, all the classic hits.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We have a ton of fun with these wrestling events.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I guess war games would be the next one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: after this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Survivor series.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I guess so.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think well it's quite a tight turn over isn't it with money in the back being late in the year this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I think we're going to angle to do a Survivor series watch party at national best thing to do is give us a follow if you haven't already at Poison Rana pod on all socials and Poison Rana.ca is where we put the links to
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the events will always keep on coming.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know that when we were across the pond for all in, they announced the Liverpool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: paper view.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I've seen that our friends at grapple are doing an event in Liverpool during AEW Dynasty weekend.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So anyone out there who's thinking of maybe going to Dynasty, I know that's months and months away, but shout out Beno and grapple because they'll be doing a little bit of a get together there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if in case you're planning or thinking of going, our friends will be doing a little get together.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe that will entice you to buy a flight or
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[SPEAKER_01]: Train ticket or whatever it else to get your your butt on over to some dynasty.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The top lads, the grapple boys and we got the chance to meet a lot of the grapple listeners as well when we were at all in and know you're going to be with a great bunch of people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're at the outpost in Liverpool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're calling it all outpost and to get your tickets for that, go to grapple.bigcartel.com to support the boys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just missed JP.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just wish we could still be hanging out with him right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't heard back from him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was like a, he was like a mystical wizard showed up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He got me really, got me really elevated on that will last friend that disappeared into the night.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know this is a very sort of 2026 term to use at the kids are all using, but he's side quests a lot, doesn't he?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's sort of, he just sort of floats in, like spins around like a tornado as a big grin on his face and then disappears and he's elsewhere, trying to get stuff out of his bag at the hotel constantly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: something something I'll be in drug lords or something, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, shout out shout out JP and grapple.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, yeah, I love I love seeing like the wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: events and stuff like obviously we've done a whole bunch of different ones but seeing like when we go to different towns and cities for wrestling WWE events or a w events and seeing like the indie shows now pop up for like almost mini WrestleMania weekends in your city wherever you go with like all the independent wrestling people doing like
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[SPEAKER_01]: trivia nights, you know, those was the switch in disco and like all those like music kind of in like wrestling themed things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it is it is cool to see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we definitely love having fun doing these live events and everything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I appreciate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But again, you can follow along and be there and spirit with the power of the internet and social media.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Give us a follow and check out all the stuff
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[SPEAKER_01]: to talking about money in the bank that took place last night from New Orleans.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, maybe also have a little chance to talk about some grand slam friends.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And whatever else is going on in the world of wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mentioned you should click that subscribe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We did do a free show just this week in honor.
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[SPEAKER_01]: of Pack, Adrian Neville, Ben Satterley, we did a huge podcast covering the life, the legacy and the career of Pack, and we looked at the best.
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[SPEAKER_01]: of his matches.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Some of the best matches of his career, including matches against Sami Zayn, El Generico.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I could just keep listing all the different characters he just wrestled with.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We talked about Will Osprey, Kenny Omega, and so much more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We look at all the best moments, memories, and these awesome matches we even made a little playlist for you to follow along at home, watch, and then listen to us talk all about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But
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[SPEAKER_01]: We made this show absolutely free.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We want to honor pack in the one way we know how and that's hurting out about pro wrestling and all the love and power to the Saturday family and
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[SPEAKER_01]: Check it out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we did a good job as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think, best match ever, often one of the longest shows we do, but I think it's one of those shows that we kind of finished, we look at the clock and go, geez, we went to in a half hours, and I think that just shows how much we enjoy watching this guy's work and talking about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, how do you pick just seven matches to talk about?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think we picked some good ones.
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[SPEAKER_00]: absolutely getting a lot of good feedback so far so it's our way of saying thank you and tribute to Pack and we hope you give it a listen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Give it a listen check us and check it out on YouTube drop your favorite pack memories or moments or anything just sharing the life and the legacy of Pack and it was a lot of fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously we know his recent years in AEW we've
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[SPEAKER_01]: But we got to look at some like PWG and some dragging gains, some stuff, maybe we weren't too familiar with, but you should definitely get familiar and go back and watch these matches and then listen to us talk about it and celebrate his life and legacy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So pulling out for pack, love your pack.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was a great great episode to go through and look back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously it was
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[SPEAKER_01]: bittersweet to do so but uh if you've not seen some of his old matches like specifically the the ricochet dragging gates stuff with pack or the elginarico pwg stuff with pack oh my god just incredible yeah incredible work that this guy did and put his body on the line for our entertainment and i'll never forget that meant so
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[SPEAKER_01]: Alright Pete's Pack.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That shows out for free.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We do have tons of other shows.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This upcoming Tuesday night will be live right after NXT on post wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll talk all about the build to Halloween havoc coming out in a few weeks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But
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[SPEAKER_01]: We have a Patreon dot com slash poison ronna five bucks a month to get access to all the shows that we do including tons of retro wrestling we do a show called was next where we go back through NXT this week oddly enough is Adrian Neville versus Tyler Breeze for the NXT championship from August 14th 2014 episode of WWE NXT.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Also on that show, Sasha Banks versus Bailey on a random episode of NXT winner gets a shot at Charlottes NXT Women's title and so much more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would say this is a good hopping on point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're new to us or you've never given wasnext a try, I think this was a great week to watch.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One of my favorite NXT episodes to date as we've been going on this journey.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Some really good stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You had the the lucha dragons as well, not called that quite yet, but the lucha dragons versus bacon Murphy, full-density turning on his partner, sassurin,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Bailey and the NXT Championship main event.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a fun one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I really enjoyed this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it is available in YouTube to watch just type type in NXT August 14th, 2014.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Give it a watch and give us a listen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, uh, was next is a great show, but obviously with the recent passing of pack, it makes things a little, a little interesting, and again, bittersweet, because where we are at, he is the champion, and going through all those different stories and this match with Tyler Breeze leading to the fatal four-way match from NXT, and it will be quite the ride going back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, uh, if that's something for you, check out was next to series we do on a Patreon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We also love Spooky season at the end of the month.
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[SPEAKER_01]: For Halloween every year, for free, we release a Halloween movie review.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We've been reviewing the entire franchise.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We will be looking at Rob Zombie's Halloween this year, for free.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But we got lots of other spooky stuff, including on our Patreon, 50th Anniversary of a Stephen King horror iconic horror movie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: carry, which maybe you're watching the new series, maybe you're thinking about watching the new series.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, go back, watch carry, and then listen to us talk all about Sissy Spasik, Evil John Travolta and Pig's Blood.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, prom.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and we're going to be continuing the horror anniversary trend this week as we're talking about Jeff Goldbum in the fly a 40th anniversary of this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, another horror classic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Look at that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're we're swinging big with these
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[SPEAKER_01]: Plastic horror movie reviews on our Patreon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know October is one of our favorite times to look at the scary and spooky stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, uh, we're going to get mad fly and talk about Jeff Goldblum.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But coming a mad fly essentially.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Have you have you seen the original?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the old one, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Vince and Mike, long time ago, a long, long time ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I might throw that on tonight, you know?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I might try and do a little double feature with this, so I can compare the two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do love this movie with Jeff Goldblum.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a big Jeff Goldblum fan, fan, I think, that's fair to say, but I do love this movie, and I haven't watched it, it may be like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: 5 to 10 years or something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's gonna make for a good review.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 40th anniversary of the fly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This week on our Patreon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then eventually we will be doing a retro Halloween havoc.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll put up a tadpole and get you guys to pick which one we should do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So tons of wrestling, tons of movie reviews, 5 bucks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We are tuned to penipodcasters.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You want to check out our content patreon.com slash poison rung.
15:41
[SPEAKER_00]: What's it last year's Halloween Habit that absolutely broke us?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel there's been two WVP views around 99,000.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For me, this is some of the worst shit we have ever seen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We reviewed some bad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've never been going fucking loopy during one of these reviews.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember what it was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: terrible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of bad old WCW and it can make for great content and reviews and stuff, but sometimes it's such a, like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Such a drag to try to get through some of the bad stuff in those old shows, but I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's still fun to go back and watch and how lean how they go is It's got that like nostalgic thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like that NXT brought the name back and instead we need to bring back hog wild Don't you think hog wild do it do it at the bike rallies, too?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just do it outside Booker G on commentary
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure you'll get an interesting crowd for sure, but fuck it, why not?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm here for it, a little.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes these shows uh, you know, somethings don't age well, but they're good time capsules to to realize how.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Attitudes are in certain places and times in world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why not?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, bring it back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Bring back hog wild.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Road wild?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What did they call it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hog wild?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's hog wild?
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[SPEAKER_00]: They did both and they did a road wild out of a wild.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think maybe I'm right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I just remember the crowd being
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[SPEAKER_01]: racist, questionable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So tons of content, patreon.com slash poiser on a poison run, that's a for links of everything that we do tons of shows to come out and tons of stuff to talk about, I guess we should start today with some money, some dollar dollar bills, a milli money in the bank.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we go to the smoothie king,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Center through the thing sent a one of the best arenas I Is it it's got the best name.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll give them that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's got a fantastic name like So some you know, I kind of I kind of appreciate a dumb condo not Serena just that the silly sounding ones I don't want finance, you know Ford financial field fuck off with that like the the ATM arena or whatever But smoothie king come on smoothies great and
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[SPEAKER_00]: With the smoothies are great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What is though that like I'm sorry like any I guess Americans Excuse my Canadian ignorance is smoothie king a chain
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like when you get like two juice poop.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We've got like boosters or whatever it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Booster juice like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So smoothie king is an American smoothie chain from Texas.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've learned something that we don't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We have boosters.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not the name of an actual king called smoothie who listed you all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was sick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That'd be so sick, but the smoothie king, we have the slush puppy thing and like Kingston or something I think, but yeah, not or maybe that said Barry forget, but still not as good as the smoothie king, we still have slush puppies back home as well, slush puppies that those are better than smoothies, but maybe we still always at the bowling alley, right, yeah, you get blue or red, you get blue or red, you get blue or red, you get blue or red, you get blue or red, you get blue or red, you get blue or red, you get blue or red, you get blue or red, you get blue or red, you get blue or red, you get blue or red, you get blue or red, you get blue or red, you get blue or red, you get blue or red, you get blue or red, you get blue or red, you get blue or red, you get blue or red, you get blue or red, you get blue or red, you get blue or red, you get
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[SPEAKER_01]: you do a little twist I like a little mix a little twist through yeah I can't just pick one no greedy so we go to New Orleans for some smoothie king center here and we kicked things off with our money in the bank and if he's not finishing the show Brock Lesnar taught him you open it
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[SPEAKER_00]: and get the fuck on how do they have to hear me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you know what, I had a pressure and I think something I miss, you know, we're going to talk about a retro WCWP view this month and these reviews are often long for us to do and it's not because the match is along.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just there are so many segments throughout the show and there's so many like little backstage things interviews and yeah, we always bang on about the
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[SPEAKER_00]: the commercials, but I think something I'm missing from WWE paper views, especially, is a bit of that backstage stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a bit of a pretty much interview as someone's getting ready in the locker room, a little angle throughout the show or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It really is just,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Long entrance match commercial, long entrance match commercial times five isn't it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And with Roman opening the show, I'd have liked a little scene of like human ademps, politicking this because it is money in the bank.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the most dangerous night of the year to be a champion because you could get cashed in on and the champion going first, it kind of
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[SPEAKER_00]: Protect Sim from a cash in in the show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so just just add a little detail here of Roman, you know, being like, I've I've got to kick off this show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can you can let the boys mate event in the latter match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think everyone was thinking that like, oh, wait.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Are they doing this purposely because in storyline, like, if you're opening, then no one's had no one has the briefcase yet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Therefore, no one can cash in on you while you're out there in the ring even after.
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[SPEAKER_01]: your match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I will agree that we do get the classic, you know, I always remember like Sunday night heat starting in angle that leads and bleeds into the paper view and that's kind of what you refer to of these like show-long story arcs that we do see don't get me wrong in WWE and AEW, but
21:18
[SPEAKER_01]: You kind of answered your question while describing what we were watching because you go long entrance match commercial break.
21:28
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this WWE paper views in 2026, that is it.
21:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe you're lucky to get a match in there.
21:38
[SPEAKER_01]: While watching a paper view, like the whole thing to me feels like a commercial.
21:43
[SPEAKER_01]: This one may be not so much because there wasn't the mug dog, and I think now sarcastically or ironically, I wanted to see the mug dog, and I felt short-change that he didn't come out during a match tonight, or climb the brief to go for the briefcase or anything, but this...
21:59
[SPEAKER_01]: the WWE like thing, the formula, it works on me and you do these watch parties because then as soon as it goes to the commercials we mute it and then we talk and we do games and raffles and all that stuff.
22:11
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's great because we know as soon as this thing hits we've got like 10 12 minutes of just doing fuck all.
22:18
[SPEAKER_01]: So
22:19
[SPEAKER_00]: When you watch WB show the next day, we, we have after some sort of wild hardcore match where they've got a clean up the ring.
22:27
[SPEAKER_00]: We might have 60 seconds to it.
22:29
[SPEAKER_01]: And we try to do a scalavera try to do a rundown.
22:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay everybody, thanks for coming, we got Raffles and the next match is a, so it's like WWE, it's like when you watch the show live, it's a bit of a like.
22:40
[SPEAKER_01]: long haul of this the breaks and stops and just feels like such a long now again I'm coming from somewhere I don't sit down on a Sunday afternoon and watch like five hours of football I can't do that I won't do that it's tough for me to watch like a three hour movie in a full sitting but if it's really good I'll do it don't get me wrong I love it but
23:01
[SPEAKER_01]: When it's these long shows, WWE, I feel like I know now so many friends and our wrestling world who, if you still love WWE, you probably, you might wait to start the show on a delay or watch it later because you can get through it so quickly on the next day without these long interventions.
23:19
[SPEAKER_00]: It definitely lends itself to watching with people.
23:23
[SPEAKER_00]: So you can talk in the breaks and things like that.
23:25
[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, uh, all like just keeping busy, you know, cooking your dinner whilst watching it sitting down during the matches and going down to the convenience store to pick up the milk.
23:36
[SPEAKER_00]: You forgot during the break.
23:37
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't even need to pause the show.
23:39
[SPEAKER_01]: You can you can literally leave your house and come back and it'll still be in this like break music thing that at least we get here in Canadian Netflix, the the music.
23:48
[SPEAKER_01]: it is it is quite like wow there's five matches now mind you like they had some time on these five matches so I it they gave you wrestling and content but still does feel like these PLEs every month is like just these long drawn out almost like a Monday night
24:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, but we did kick things off at 6 p.m. Now this also through some of our viewers off because we tried to tell people coming to our watch party.
24:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, reminder, this is not a 6 p.m.
24:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Doors.
24:28
[SPEAKER_01]: This is a 6 p.m. Eastern start time.
24:31
[SPEAKER_01]: And we had quite a few people thinking they were showing up early at 5.45.
24:36
[SPEAKER_01]: or 6 p.m. or 6.01 or 6.15.
24:39
[SPEAKER_01]: And they all came in being like, what the fuck?
24:42
[SPEAKER_01]: What is this?
24:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Why is this already on?
24:44
[SPEAKER_01]: And when I explained it started at 6, they then asked, but why is Roman wrestling right now?
24:50
[SPEAKER_01]: And I had to also explain, I don't know, but he is.
24:53
[SPEAKER_01]: So people were rushing in to make sure they caught the opening matchup of Roman Reigns and LA night.
25:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I
25:02
[SPEAKER_01]: everyone wanted LA night to win, but everyone knew it just wasn't going to happen.
25:09
[SPEAKER_01]: But bless them for trying and keeping our attention.
25:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought there was some great nearfalls in this match.
25:15
[SPEAKER_01]: They teased us with this huge burning hammer, which I know we've seen LA night do before, but Roman reigns kicks out of the burning hammer and then he kicks out of the blunt
25:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Superfisher, it is in virtual Pro 2 when I play.
25:34
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I always think with moves, you have to think like,
25:40
[SPEAKER_00]: The reason why it's some people finish with the DDT and others use it as a transitional move is that, right?
25:45
[SPEAKER_00]: First, using it as a finisher has just mastered it more.
25:48
[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe he hasn't quite mastered it like Kabashi Habashi, he wants for his trauma, which I thought his one out of nowhere in this match looked very nice.
25:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, the cat's from what was at the Superman Punchle, the superhero he did into it, I thought, look great.
26:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like Roman Reigns is not by any means one of my favorite wrestlers, but this year I think he's actually had some really good Yeah, matches.
26:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I feel like he's delivered on the big matches that feel like he needs to deliver.
26:20
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not saying this was my match of the year or anything like that, but it was a solid wrestling match.
26:26
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking.
26:27
[SPEAKER_01]: They went almost 27 minutes.
26:28
[SPEAKER_01]: That's very long for Roman Reigns match up.
26:32
[SPEAKER_01]: And I would say like
26:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, everyone just wanted LA night, you knew we were going to get those false finishes and I thought they delivered on those big moments of making you believe first but second that LA could actually do this so I'm typically a Roman hater, but this year like his matches have been at least feel like a step up in an actual content in ring and I think the story here is LA night proved that he can be a
27:01
[SPEAKER_01]: a world title contender main event or like I do think his time will eventually come I don't know if it's going to be the next boy who cried wolf situation where I wanted to send me zane to win the WWE title for like 20 years and he finally did and I'm like nah cool well will that be the same case for fans when they finally go no no wait wait don't say good can be a main event it's a little too late though and will that be the
27:30
[SPEAKER_01]: really like him and I do think he should and maybe will be a WWE champion one day.
27:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like I
27:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel this would have been a good time to do it.
27:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Because you've got enough time to get the title back on Roman.
27:45
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you can have this 946 story that he's involved with as well.
27:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Be maybe the cause or like, you know, distraction that he can go off and sort of finish that story before getting that championship back around the time of the rumble and you're still good for Mania.
28:04
[SPEAKER_00]: We've had the epic.
28:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Roman reign before we don't necessarily need him to have this long one again, and I thought, you know October's as good a time to put it on an L.A. night as any time, and I this was my match the night this this singles match.
28:22
[SPEAKER_00]: I do think I think Roman's been interesting because he you know
28:28
[SPEAKER_00]: When he was a babyface, the character just wasn't connecting with people, there was a lot of rejection, it was Vince at his worst, a lot of the time.
28:38
[SPEAKER_00]: But he was a bit more of a dynamic in-ring performer because he was a babyface and it allowed him to be that.
28:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Then you had the whole long heel rum which
28:50
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it was pandemic, it was cinematic here, right?
28:52
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a lot of talking, a lot of walking around and playing to the camera, stalling, heel tactics, all of that.
29:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, now because he's a bit of this hybrid and he's able to.
29:06
[SPEAKER_00]: because he's not relying on the bloodline and stuff like that.
29:10
[SPEAKER_00]: He's able to be a bit more of an exciting performer again, but has that cashier now with the audience where they're not rejecting him.
29:17
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it's allowed him to have some excellent matches this year with the likes of Penta and Punk.
29:23
[SPEAKER_00]: And now L.A. Knight.
29:25
[SPEAKER_00]: And
29:26
[SPEAKER_00]: I was surprised that the 946 stuff didn't happen during the match and I actually thought it could have led for another big nearfall for LA night, but I think this match especially kind of was there to show and it was in story as well that Roman can do this all on his own.
29:45
[SPEAKER_00]: This is now him proving I can have a title reign as champion without all the other bullshit.
29:50
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think
29:55
[SPEAKER_00]: like his in-ring gets underrated, sometimes from people.
29:57
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not saying he's the best in-ring worker in the world, but I also think, I hear people saying, oh, he's just a promo in a catchphrase, and that's it.
30:05
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't think that's fair.
30:07
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think we caught on to that with the Cameron Grimes feud in NXT, where they had some pretty good matches.
30:13
[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought this match really allowed him to flourish.
30:17
[SPEAKER_00]: As I mentioned, that bonfire's trauma out and nowhere,
30:22
[SPEAKER_00]: him hitting the spear as well.
30:23
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought there were some well crafted nearfalls in this.
30:26
[SPEAKER_00]: The crowd was so hot for LA night at the beginning as well, which was a pretty cool moment in itself, where hopefully some heads backstage are turning and going, okay, this guy can hang in a main event, and he is still after all this time, and all these losses still over with this crowd.
30:46
[SPEAKER_00]: There's only so many more times you can get away with this, but I agree, I think Romans haven't had a great year.
30:51
[SPEAKER_00]: He's not wrestling much, but when he is, he's putting the work and he's having a shift and I really enjoyed this one and this was for me my highlight of the show was this opening match.
31:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't think it was a bad match.
31:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I liked it.
31:07
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I put it up next to the punk or the Seth matches this year, but like you said I do think this would probably, I mean, it's the only singles match on the show that was for a title, right?
31:33
[SPEAKER_01]: I liked it, I still like Roman all these years of being the like shoved down your throats and it finally worked and got people like super into this character.
31:44
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's still like, it's good, but I wouldn't, if this is the match of the show, I'm like, okay, then,
31:54
[SPEAKER_01]: fucking turned the rest off because it didn't get any better for me after this one.
31:59
[SPEAKER_01]: So I would agree that this was my match of the show.
32:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I do think L&I can be rehabbed and he still is a big star.
32:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Seeing him look like, look, pen to loss that match in Mexico City and they went, oh.
32:10
[SPEAKER_01]: maybe he does work and look at tonight's outcome in his match so like maybe the same thing with the latest he's going to win it as a heel isn't he yeah yeah that's the thing that's like saying he's going to join this nine four six four share and and have a heel run and see from the streets
32:27
[SPEAKER_00]: It's, yeah.
32:28
[SPEAKER_00]: It would just be lovely to see them capitalise on one of these people when they're when they're white hot.
32:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Organically hot, yeah.
32:36
[SPEAKER_00]: I understand, I understand why you didn't sacrifice the Roman rain with Sami at Elimination Chamber in Montreal, even though that was such a great moment you could have done it.
32:46
[SPEAKER_00]: They had their plans were coding and they what that was the story they wanted to tell.
32:51
[SPEAKER_00]: I think now, I think there definitely is room to do a bit of a title switch and hot potato with it a little bit before we're into Mania season.
33:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely, this is kind of a downtime, right?
33:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Like this is not quite on to the road to WrestleMania and it still feels like he's a character you could have put it on him and then you could flip flop it, I don't know, but the crowd seemed to really be into him and I do think his time will come, but there's too many
33:20
[SPEAKER_01]: in these kitchen sometimes and maybe just sometimes it doesn't work out.
33:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes sometimes someone's got a rat on their head in the kitchen and uses that to cook instead and it's working out better.
33:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, film.
33:35
[SPEAKER_00]: And you can check out our Ratsitui review in the archives of our picture.
33:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I saw someone the other day at a Halloween like market thing was wearing a raccoon
33:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Like a raccoon.
33:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I love raccoons.
33:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, two girls at work.
33:54
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like the other day I say any plans tonight and they went we're having Rats night tonight.
34:00
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, excuse me.
34:01
[SPEAKER_00]: No, and you heard rat night and I was like, what's rat night?
34:05
[SPEAKER_00]: She's like, you know, rat night where you You get a bottle of wine and you sit down and you watch rat to Ian washed flushed away back to that.
34:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow
34:14
[SPEAKER_00]: What?
34:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Get your rat out.
34:16
[SPEAKER_00]: She said it like I was, yeah, like, come on.
34:19
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
34:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Winning money in the bank for the women's contract, Tiffany defeating J.C. Jane, Lash legend, Lolavice, Roxanne Perez, and Sol Ruka in uh, I mean, these money in the bank, TLC, ladder matches, all these kinds of things.
34:57
[SPEAKER_01]: They're always the car crash type matches, right?
35:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Like the big crazy spots and then a lot of setting up and stuff in between.
35:05
[SPEAKER_01]: But this one was
35:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, there was some spots in this that looked like they went awry, a little wrong.
35:18
[SPEAKER_01]: And thankfully, I mean at this point, we haven't heard about any serious injuries and everyone seems okay, but there could have been some crazy injuries coming out of this match when you watch that.
35:29
[SPEAKER_00]: What was it, Lola and JC and like in the back pack, was she and like a dog on the ladder and then the ladder like slides out of the ring and they just come it made quite a spectacular spot, but wasn't the intended result.
35:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I hope they're okay after that one because that was.
35:49
[SPEAKER_01]: have the could have been so bad like that in a lot of match before and could have been a lot less than it could have been so bad like you said I watched it so many times now including like fan footage of different angles and it's like it's like they're supposed to fall backwards onto that ladder and maybe it was supposed to crash through it or something but instead they both bounce and then bounce out of the ring
36:09
[SPEAKER_01]: And you can see their professional shout out, uh, low-livice and JC Jane, who, you know, only have been on the main roster for only a little while, but you could see that they are trained professionals, kids.
36:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't try this shit at home because you could see, low-lost specifically was the arms were out no matter what, like, China block, because you just mid-air, like falling.
36:30
[SPEAKER_01]: And I, I hate to say it, but,
36:34
[SPEAKER_01]: thank goodness for her bump because I think that's what saved her.
36:37
[SPEAKER_01]: I literally seen her butt bouncing off the rungs and it slowed her down from falling and hitting the ground on her neck and her head and everything.
36:46
[SPEAKER_01]: So, low of ice, very nice.
36:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to say, I think Lola's been good, so far on the main roster.
36:55
[SPEAKER_00]: She hasn't necessarily
36:59
[SPEAKER_00]: particularly exciting introduction, you know, like her promo isn't great.
37:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and she hasn't necessarily been put right in a story like you've had been taking packs leaping involved with live in Charlotte.
37:12
[SPEAKER_00]: She's kind of just been there, but I think her wrestling style has got herself over.
37:18
[SPEAKER_00]: And
37:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Like we've said, and this is silly comparison, but what we said on the departure where when he moved up to main roster, you could see people in the crowd being like,
37:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't know who this guy is and then he does those front flips and it's like whoa whoa who is this guy and I've heard that sort of same audio reaction from the crowd with Lola in her matters on the main roster where she comes in and it's just another woman in the women's division and then she does her really quick kicks and her back face and things and people like whoa whoa this is different this is good and I I think she's been connecting and I I've enjoyed her work so far on the main roster
37:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I agree like we've we've liked her in NXT and we got to see the evolution of her and I do think they will have a big star on their hands with her eventually if all things go right.
38:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I like all the women in this match.
38:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean this is an NXT showcase.
38:11
[SPEAKER_01]: We've literally watched every single woman in this match come through NXT and talk about them for years months in WWE NXT.
38:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Here they are in a ladder match, which can be quite scary with a bunch of different people and crazy spots falling off flat.
38:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Where do you learn to fall off a 20-foot ladder?
38:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Unfortunately, I did not like this match.
38:33
[SPEAKER_01]: It was too carcassie.
38:34
[SPEAKER_01]: It was too messy, too... Bachi, sorry.
38:38
[SPEAKER_01]: It was just a little too crazy and not in a good way.
38:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought there was so many moments I hate to single her out, but Lash legend just
38:47
[SPEAKER_01]: look like she was moving in slow motion in certain parts.
38:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Even the finish where it was Tiffany hitting her with the briefcase and it was just so controlled.
38:57
[SPEAKER_01]: You could just see every you can almost hear them going beat for beat of war walking through the spots in certain things.
39:03
[SPEAKER_01]: And I just I didn't think this match connected with me.
39:06
[SPEAKER_01]: And
39:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I've had, it's cool that Tiffany won because you could go with the story with her and Chelsea green, but I think it would have been a little bit more interesting with Roxanne, but I just don't think she's at that position yet.
39:19
[SPEAKER_01]: She's not at that height yet, which eventually you can heat her up for that live program for Mania, maybe.
39:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's judgment say stuff, which is the slowest of burns, the whole time that faction's been around, it's been such a slow burn, think the slow burn of thin leaving the group, the slow burn of pre-s leaving the group, rear, et cetera.
39:41
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think a lot of us can see that that's the direction they're going to go.
39:47
[SPEAKER_00]: You're eventually going to have Roxanne chasing live for the title, obviously the title is back on live.
39:54
[SPEAKER_00]: I just think a lot of people were hoping this was a bit of a move from first gear to fifth gear and let's speed through this a little bit and sort of push the story forward quicker.
40:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Certainly I felt at the national.
40:09
[SPEAKER_00]: the crowd wanted rocks, they seemed all behind rocks here, even someone who's pretty popular like Soul Ruka was getting booed in our room when she was up to win the briefcase because I think there was a moment where everyone was out and you know she hits that soul snatcher and we think oh is this soul winning this, rocks was definitely the most popular where we were and it sounded like it from the arena as well on TV, it sounded like she was the favorite in this.
40:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it's the lack of reps, like I know you're not necessarily going around doing ladder matches at how shows, but just the familiarity of all.
40:49
[SPEAKER_00]: working with people, the same people every day at how shows and things that when you come to one of these clusterfuck of matches that are, you know, we're coming up with all these ideas backstage of certain spots to do.
41:03
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a bit more smoothness with how you work with each other because I felt both this and the men's ladder match.
41:10
[SPEAKER_00]: There were so many contrived spots that just made
41:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I think punk and Owens, I could tell in this, I'll get to that when we get to that when we get to that.
41:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd say, yeah, we're still on this one.
41:24
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, but it was to echo my point of just being like so many of these spots make no sense, like so many times people could grab a free case where instead they're going for a dive.
41:36
[SPEAKER_00]: But so many times ladders out of position, Tiffany's scary swan tom to the outside.
41:43
[SPEAKER_00]: She had the the ladder
41:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, normally, if you're doing a swan ton, you're like climbing up the rungs.
41:49
[SPEAKER_00]: So you're when you kick off, it's the legs of beneath you like this, but she was sideways on it.
41:55
[SPEAKER_00]: So as soon as there's there's nothing to kick because you kick and you're tipping the ladder backwards.
42:00
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what happened here because she got zero spring and it wasn't the women were out position to capture.
42:06
[SPEAKER_00]: She just we've seen her do it before and we see her fly forwards for these swamps ons and just so lucky there.
42:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Like you see the replay and she does tuck her chin right at the end to like save her head, but that was an nasty spot.
42:22
[SPEAKER_00]: And
42:23
[SPEAKER_00]: And then sort of you mentioned last she tried to spot with rocks and I'm pretty sure they did this on a tag which was like a like rocks I think going for a satellite or a tornado DDT or something and then last she's meant to catch her for her lash extension attempt but then rocks continues to swing around and like finishes the DDT and they tried this in a
42:51
[SPEAKER_00]: there are things you die in out, you know, like it's a ambitious sequence and it would look cool if they could pull it off, but they're the stuff you do at your small house shows in Corpus Christie, not attempting on paper view and there were just too many moments in this match like that.
43:09
[SPEAKER_00]: There's always going to be that car crash element and it's part of the fun of these ladder matches, but you at the end of the day, you don't want to come out of it thinking,
43:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Is everyone okay?
43:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Is anyone hurt from this?
43:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Like we just know what we're matching is performative and we don't have to see injuries and things.
43:26
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I'm speaking for our big giant group of people watching together.
43:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think anyone came.
43:32
[SPEAKER_01]: It got so quiet.
43:34
[SPEAKER_01]: When Tiffany won, people were like, oh yeah, but everyone was like, that was a bit of a rough watch.
43:40
[SPEAKER_01]: You're saying, these car crashes thing is part of the like, oh, are they actually heard or oh, she okay from doing these daring stunts and things?
43:47
[SPEAKER_01]: I just, I don't mean to offend, and everything is just, this was a sloppy match.
43:53
[SPEAKER_01]: This was very sloppy match, and people were all over the place, and it looked like things didn't connect when they were trying to, and I'm, just being respectful as I can.
44:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was not a good match.
44:04
[SPEAKER_01]: That's, I'll leave it at that, but Tiffany Winning, we had the moment after at the post thing where you had Chelsea Green come out, and they were like hugging and dancing around,
44:15
[SPEAKER_01]: People were spilling out of our bar at this and then everyone stopped to be like, wait, are they doing it on this post show?
44:21
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, no, they're not going to do this outside the smoothie king arena.
44:25
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to do this on TV when all the cameras are rolling.
44:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you think they normally sort of like to cash in one of the briefcases pretty early?
44:34
[SPEAKER_00]: And then and then keep the other one for a little longer.
44:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you see this being the early one like just.
44:42
[SPEAKER_00]: just get to this feud quickly or do you see a long drawn-out thing?
44:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, uh, I kind of want them to keep it for a little bit.
44:52
[SPEAKER_01]: It's nice to have the money in the bank briefcase longer than the action money in the bank event, which seems like at least one is always cashed in, right?
45:01
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think they could do this one pretty soon.
45:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe at Crown Jewel, you know, you get the champion
45:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't hear about it on the show last night.
45:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
45:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Oddly enough, which is weird.
45:14
[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe they do it then, because I don't necessarily see Chelsea and Tiffany as a Mania program, but I don't see any opponents for Tiffany, if for Chelsea right now on SmackDown.
45:29
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really any meaningful feud so you can get into.
45:33
[SPEAKER_00]: So I can see them getting to this one pretty quickly
45:37
[SPEAKER_00]: And then maybe, when Ria's ready to come back, you have a heel Tiffany against Ria, which we haven't really seen, be done.
45:44
[SPEAKER_01]: You say the word, I think that's an issue.
45:46
[SPEAKER_01]: You said the word meaningful.
45:48
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like that is an issue I have with WWE stories.
45:51
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like a lot of these stories don't matter.
45:54
[SPEAKER_01]: And they move on to the next thing, and it's like, I feel like that with a lot of the feuds and characters in WWE current day.
46:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like they don't give me a reason to care or have like merit or I know there is long-term storytelling and they do go and do things but certain times I'm like what is the point of this few?
46:16
[SPEAKER_01]: What is the point of this this match?
46:18
[SPEAKER_01]: And you're saying like Chelsea doesn't have
46:20
[SPEAKER_00]: meaningful stories right now I mean this is the story right right yeah is is that that's what I mean I I think that's the one we get to pretty quickly and I I can see pen to holding his briefcase for a while as a call your shopping yeah yeah exactly yeah exactly
46:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, so that was the women's one.
46:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Tiffany wins.
46:44
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see what happens with that briefcase.
46:46
[SPEAKER_01]: We went from that match to Bronson read, taking on Ober, Femi, one on one.
46:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, Bronson read, looking completely different.
46:57
[SPEAKER_01]: They said he's lost even more at weight.
46:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Now he looked at a completely different person.
47:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Very felt.
47:02
[SPEAKER_01]: The whole point of the tsunami splashes that he's this like giant Godzilla King Kong doing a splash.
47:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Roman Reigns doing a frog splash and it's not quite the tsunami cannonball in a pool that maybe it once was.
47:20
[SPEAKER_01]: This was cool seeing Obo throw him around, but he's not as big so it's not as impressive when he's throwing just a more normal sized Bronson.
47:30
[SPEAKER_00]: This photo here is from www.com and
47:35
[SPEAKER_00]: It looks photoshop because look how tiny Bronson read looks he looks tiny to me he looks a lot tiny I don't I know this is an angle thing like over this kind of a little bit more in front but he looks really small here Yeah, it's cool to see oh I get the big what the throw and the fall from grace and then you have the Judging sorry the vision day or copy paste judgment date doesn't matter
47:59
[SPEAKER_01]: It didn't do a whole lot for me.
48:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I felt like a raw thing, but seeing the visuals of him throw Bronson around I think is what people were really into, at least.
48:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, it's similar to...
48:12
[SPEAKER_00]: to Gunther in a way where he's lost all this way and for the, the man, good for him.
48:19
[SPEAKER_00]: You look healthier like you're, you've put the work in, you've got in shape and it's same with Bronson here, like it's long term, it's going to be so much better for you, but from a just.
48:32
[SPEAKER_00]: wrestler or a thing, they both have lost something in this weight loss.
48:38
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, I think I think Ober could have thrown around the old Johnson read.
48:43
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, but it's it is a little less impressive.
48:47
[SPEAKER_00]: I still had fun with this one.
48:48
[SPEAKER_00]: It will say that when meaningful again, didn't feel particularly meaningful.
48:52
[SPEAKER_00]: It definitely felt just another drama.
48:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Stop along the way of this
49:00
[SPEAKER_00]: distraction before we move over on to bigger things.
49:04
[SPEAKER_00]: But there's still fun in seeing overfemmy throw people around.
49:08
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he just oozes charisma.
49:11
[SPEAKER_00]: I think his promos have been great.
49:13
[SPEAKER_00]: And I enjoy him when every is on the screen.
49:16
[SPEAKER_00]: So looking forward to him taking it up to the next level.
49:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully that Roman feud at Mania is the direction we're going.
49:23
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm looking forward to that, especially the kind of trap record Romans had this year.
49:31
[SPEAKER_00]: huge and and I think the the crowd at a mania for overgoing for the title could be awesome but yeah that there was something like moon salt from Bronson is always impressive from a big lad to do in that but yeah it felt it felt a little bit the wrong way round right because Bronbrake kind of feels the the main guy in the vision and you normally would want to
49:56
[SPEAKER_00]: escalate, right?
49:57
[SPEAKER_00]: You start with Austin theory, then you go to Bronson read, then you go to Bronson breaker.
50:02
[SPEAKER_00]: It felt a little backwards, but I guess injury timelines and stuff is, is a fact to there as well.
50:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Like Oberromans, the biggest thing they can do now.
50:11
[SPEAKER_01]: They burn through punk and Cody in it.
50:13
[SPEAKER_01]: didn't feel big, didn't feel good, just disappeared, and I don't want to see it ever again.
50:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I'm done with it, and I'm sure let go back to it, but Oba and Roman is the big money match now for WWE in 2026, 2027, like that is the one, even the most casual of casual fans who know WWE simply through TikTok or Instagram, know who Roman reigns is and know who
50:40
[SPEAKER_01]: and they haven't fought yet so we knew we do need to go to that match and that probably will be the program for WrestleMania for me personally CM Punk and Kevin Owens is the big few that WWE should put all the the chips into and all the the thing but that's on the other show so they got some big like if i'm booking WrestleMania that's my main event of one of the nights
51:01
[SPEAKER_01]: as well would be pumpkin and ohens where we're at right now maybe we'll get it sooner than WrestleMania but I would say those are the two really big juicy programs for WWE fans to maybe sink their teeth into that does have some meaning to it oba's the next big thing they're calling him straight up like the game I think they're just going to put it with Paul Hayman it seemed to work with some other people I don't know
51:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if it's a red hearing.
51:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, obviously that's the thing they're doing with Paul Hayman being disappointed with how the vision has been doing.
51:36
[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, he's, you don't know if it's tough love.
51:41
[SPEAKER_00]: His sort of disappointment in them is to motivate them or if he genuinely is gonna team up with Uber.
51:48
[SPEAKER_00]: It's probably, knowing, hey, man, it's probably just grew out but because over-really doesn't need poor aim at the guy can talk and I think it's more impressive him being on his own.
52:00
[SPEAKER_00]: So I can see that being a, hey, man, eventually, screwing over, but for who, like, to benefit who, I'm not, I'm not sure.
52:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, uh, this was a fine match.
52:13
[SPEAKER_01]: It just was really to showcase Obathemy and his strength and what taking to brass nucks to the face and still kicking out.
52:20
[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, I was whatever.
52:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Bronson Bronson's been, he's a good, he's a good laki.
52:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess in this vision thing, but he's never really had a match or, like, other than what he was squashing Seth with those tsunamis.
52:35
[SPEAKER_01]: I just feel like he's always kind of at this,
52:39
[SPEAKER_01]: possible decent level when it comes to his in-ring stuff.
52:43
[SPEAKER_01]: It's always just kind of I don't see him as a top guy.
52:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Whereas I see, I do see Brombraker as being a guy who can be a world champion at some point.
52:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Bromson, I don't really, I don't really see that.
52:55
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's good and you set it out him, but I just don't, he's missing that one thing I think to make him a top guy.
53:03
[SPEAKER_01]: And I hate to say that he just, I'm happy that he's, you know, healthy and working and jacked and looking great, but it does take away from what he wants, what he brought to the table in the world of wrestling, I guess, but remember, he fought Ocata, never forget people will still bring it up.
53:21
[SPEAKER_01]: He's Ocata.
53:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's probably the last time yet.
53:25
[SPEAKER_01]: good match.
53:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, I'm being mean to WWE today, but I'm saying it how I feel.
53:32
[SPEAKER_00]: It's wet.
53:34
[SPEAKER_01]: So we go to our next match.
53:37
[SPEAKER_01]: This definitely, uh, continues this event in great ways.
53:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Triple threat for the women's championship.
53:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Live Morgan defeating Stephanie Vicarre and Becky Lynch in a triple threat to claim back.
53:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Reclaim her women's title from Stephanie.
53:54
[SPEAKER_01]: What did you think of this triple threat, Natch?
53:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I, I fell.
54:01
[SPEAKER_00]: kind of my same point of, I feel these women need, well, just the, not just the women, just the whole roster need more reps with each other, because I, I actually quite liked the work between Becky and Stephanie when they were going at it.
54:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought they had some good moments in this match.
54:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, not love.
54:22
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not a live hater.
54:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I, I think live has come a long way.
54:26
[SPEAKER_00]: And I, I do
54:31
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't love this match.
54:33
[SPEAKER_00]: As I said, I think the Becky and Stephanie stuff, which we haven't really seen them in a singles match, that was the stuff I was like, oh, this is this could be a good singles match down the line.
54:45
[SPEAKER_00]: But again, there are some ambitious spots in here with sort of like three way setup stuff that didn't quite work and little bit of sloppiness in this as well.
54:55
[SPEAKER_00]: And I live probably makes the most sense.
54:59
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think Stephanie's lit the world on fire with this title run.
55:04
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think Becky Lynch needs a title run right now.
55:07
[SPEAKER_00]: So live does make the most sense if you wanna tell that rock's and story.
55:14
[SPEAKER_00]: we have seen live as the champion, what this is the fourth time, we've seen it quite a bit.
55:19
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not particularly exciting, and I didn't think this match was great.
55:23
[SPEAKER_01]: You said if it was Becky and Stephanie one on one, that was part of the match you liked, when it was just them fighting, right?
55:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I agree, completely.
55:34
[SPEAKER_01]: I did not like this match.
55:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I disagree with you about live, and this kind of,
55:40
[SPEAKER_01]: adds to my fire of the flame of like I don't necessarily see it with her.
55:45
[SPEAKER_01]: I can see why you would put her on TV as a character completely just when it comes to the wrestling man like this was
55:54
[SPEAKER_01]: probably my least favorite match of the show and going into it.
55:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I was going to think I thought yes be a fun match I've I've liked Stephanie Vicarcin's coming to WWE.
56:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I think she's been impressive I just I didn't think much of this and I I don't know why you would go back to live when you just did the flip on the house show with the care just recently Is it to try to add some like something to this story which
56:20
[SPEAKER_01]: At this point, you would imagine live is gonna move away from the care and Becky Lynch, right?
56:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, but then where do they go?
56:27
[SPEAKER_01]: What's is Roxanne the program for live at WrestleMania?
56:32
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
56:33
[SPEAKER_01]: I think so.
56:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think that's where they should go.
56:36
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, maybe a down point on the show.
56:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it just maybe some of the spots were just a little too ambitious with then trying certain things.
56:46
[SPEAKER_01]: And it just,
56:48
[SPEAKER_01]: It's it is lived for me.
56:50
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the problem.
56:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I know she's got her fans, but it was a little apparent in this that it was a little slippery.
56:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Those ropes are slippery.
56:59
[SPEAKER_01]: So live retains.
57:01
[SPEAKER_01]: We go from that to our main event of the evening.
57:04
[SPEAKER_01]: The men's were not world championship.
57:07
[SPEAKER_01]: The men's chance to be a world champion.
57:18
[SPEAKER_01]: We have CM Punk, Javon Evans, Kevin Owens, trick Williams with Lil Yaddy, and the winner, Tenta who climbed that ladder and grabbed that briefcase, and is now the man with no fear and senior money in the bank, but I have a question.
57:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, um, I, look, it's, this guy's not crashing through a real ambulance.
57:59
[SPEAKER_00]: I, it's, again, what this is, this is scripted entertainment and I, I, I don't necessarily have a problem with that element of it.
58:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Like they, they wanted to do a,
58:10
[SPEAKER_00]: a big four and just the spot was stupid because of the positioning of the ladder.
58:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Now it looked like Javan was setting it up for this spot.
58:21
[SPEAKER_00]: So they have this crazy tool ladder which is to be in the middle of the ring and tip and he can make this big leap through the ambulance.
58:31
[SPEAKER_00]: But he first positioned it in the wrong position.
58:35
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think Bron could see that and took him out and then tried to reposition it.
58:41
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think Breaker was like, I don't want this guy to die.
58:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's make this as safe as possible and have it as close to the ropes as we can.
58:51
[SPEAKER_00]: But it just made it completely,
58:54
[SPEAKER_00]: implausible like why are you putting the ladder there and why would you've on I know he's he's young and and you know not not as smart as some of the others but still like you
59:07
[SPEAKER_00]: You realize, if you're six feet away from the title, let you can't reach it.
59:12
[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought that just made it at, like with the women's, just so many spots where we're setting things up that are clearly for a stunt.
59:23
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think you need to give me some sort of believability about why everything is, is where.
59:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't have an issue of people falling through gimmick stuff.
59:37
[SPEAKER_00]: to hurt themselves or die or anything and I do think in the arena it probably looks very like that was high that was a big leap you did But I just sort of so stupid how it was set up and just took me out of it so many times in this match where I'm going Why would you do that why your hands literally on the briefcase why you jumping why you setting up a ladder there why you
1:00:07
[SPEAKER_00]: And, and I think I felt that CM Punk and Kevin Owens in this match, who, you know, they're not the guys doing the, the big bumps and nor should they at this stage in their team.
1:00:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Did he take a bump in this match?
1:00:22
[SPEAKER_01]: He was, but they was Marty Scroll in that ladder match at MSG.
1:00:27
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, yeah, I'm doing.
1:00:28
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not winning the match.
1:00:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
1:00:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm doing one ladder bump, and that's okay.
1:00:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Which is fine, dude.
1:00:33
[SPEAKER_01]: They shouldn't.
1:00:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, if punk at 47 years old or however old it is, inches himself in the ladder match, at this time, like, no, there's no point.
1:00:42
[SPEAKER_00]: But I actually thought they were the only two in this match that bought some logic into it.
1:00:48
[SPEAKER_00]: And they were actually playing the stipulation of the ladder match, which is,
1:00:54
[SPEAKER_00]: climb the ladder grab the briefcase and and I even felt on the the promo on Smackdown that they had where you know we always saw that this was a vent special where it's the go home show and everyone sat on top of the ladders cutting a promo and it's so stupid and I felt that they
1:01:12
[SPEAKER_00]: They pitched this idea or we want the visual of Sami Owens and punk on top of these ladders, but, and I could see them possibly backstage going, that's stupid, and they actually tried to do it in a way, which made logical sense in the promo of why punk's doing his promo climbing the ladder and saying, you know, I've done this twice before, and then Owens
1:01:42
[SPEAKER_00]: goes to meet him.
1:01:43
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought they made sense of that, that daft gimmick in the Gole Home show, and I thought in this match, they were the only two, actually logically playing the stipulation, whereas everyone else, the Javan just looked like a complete moron, so many times in this match, which is a shame, because I like him, and he's so young and so talented, but
1:02:07
[SPEAKER_00]: He looked like a moron in this match.
1:02:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Love the spear on the outside.
1:02:11
[SPEAKER_00]: That was good.
1:02:13
[SPEAKER_00]: But just too much hoakiness in this where it just, yeah, it's just setting up.
1:02:19
[SPEAKER_00]: There's no logic in it at all.
1:02:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Didn't do it for me.
1:02:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Happy Penta won.
1:02:24
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that was a great move.
1:02:26
[SPEAKER_00]: They're capitalizing on his momentum since that Roman match.
1:02:29
[SPEAKER_00]: And doing that really successfully.
1:02:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Part from that, China left me cold.
1:02:35
[SPEAKER_01]: really happy pen to one.
1:02:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's the right choice.
1:02:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Our chat last week we were like, oh, like our heart says pen to just because of how hot he organically got over.
1:02:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Like easily the coolest mother fucker in wrestling.
1:02:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Like just look at it and yeah, he busted out the Joker pen to you know, that's his that's his demon.
1:02:56
[SPEAKER_01]: That's his fin baller demon.
1:02:57
[SPEAKER_01]: That's Kenny Ovegan, the Tokyo don't.
1:02:59
[SPEAKER_01]: When he's joker Penta, shit's getting real.
1:03:02
[SPEAKER_01]: So he said, I think it was the post show.
1:03:04
[SPEAKER_01]: He mentioned that he's tried to do joker Penta and WWE, but we know they can be a little, little sus when it comes to trademarks and copyrights and stuff like that.
1:03:15
[SPEAKER_01]: And, uh, well,
1:03:18
[SPEAKER_01]: They finally let him do it because of the colors.
1:03:20
[SPEAKER_01]: They said the green matches, the colors of the paper of your scheme, the purple and the green stuff.
1:03:25
[SPEAKER_01]: So he used it and wouldn't you know it.
1:03:28
[SPEAKER_01]: First time he dresses as Joker Penta in the Fed, he wins.
1:03:32
[SPEAKER_01]: the money in the bank briefcase.
1:03:34
[SPEAKER_01]: So just saying, they should let them do joke or pen to a few more times.
1:03:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Love, see.
1:03:38
[SPEAKER_00]: So he did do the makeup, right?
1:03:40
[SPEAKER_00]: So it was like, if you know you know like, we're going, oh, that's joke or pen to it.
1:03:46
[SPEAKER_00]: If you've never seen him wear this before, you go, oh, cool.
1:03:50
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a cool, like, New Orleans, Mighty Grower inspired pen to outfit.
1:03:54
[SPEAKER_00]: So it worked.
1:03:55
[SPEAKER_01]: but Joker Penta always cool to see.
1:03:58
[SPEAKER_01]: But now I got that out of the way.
1:04:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Hated this match.
1:04:02
[SPEAKER_01]: This is, you said, Devon is, is Garrett, it would be like 22, 23 years old.
1:04:08
[SPEAKER_01]: In K-F-A-Y's, I guess it's his young age that makes him look so stupid in this match.
1:04:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Cause the briefcase is there.
1:04:16
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'd better go and set up the ladder over there.
1:04:19
[SPEAKER_01]: And you had commentary, you had commentary who I rewatched this spot back today.
1:04:24
[SPEAKER_01]: The commentary, Corey Graves Blessing, is like, he might as well be miles away from it.
1:04:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, it's so dumb.
1:04:33
[SPEAKER_01]: I did not like the spot of him going through a fucking ambulance.
1:04:36
[SPEAKER_01]: This is already a ladder match.
1:04:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Plus we already got the Brinkstruck at the front.
1:04:40
[SPEAKER_01]: So do something with that.
1:04:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Why did you need to incorporate
1:04:43
[SPEAKER_01]: and ambulance into this.
1:04:44
[SPEAKER_01]: We've already seen ambulance matches in WWE.
1:04:47
[SPEAKER_01]: I hate all the stupid WWE shit they do in their matches and all they did all of it in this.
1:04:55
[SPEAKER_01]: You had the best of WWE stupid shit in this match.
1:04:59
[SPEAKER_01]: You had Lil Yati, you had the ambulance even Javan coming back opening the door.
1:05:05
[SPEAKER_01]: They fucked that up.
1:05:06
[SPEAKER_01]: brown breaker was like, oh, and the camera's right on him.
1:05:10
[SPEAKER_01]: So he just looks so bad.
1:05:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.
1:05:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I fucking hated this.
1:05:15
[SPEAKER_01]: And it reminded me of why every time I watched a WWE paper review of P.O.E.
1:05:20
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, fuck, stake.
1:05:21
[SPEAKER_01]: What?
1:05:22
[SPEAKER_01]: This is just not for me.
1:05:23
[SPEAKER_01]: It feels like this was made for kids to watch this.
1:05:27
[SPEAKER_01]: And go, mom, dad, can you buy me?
1:05:30
[SPEAKER_01]: The ambulance money in the bank play set, because that's what this felt like.
1:05:33
[SPEAKER_01]: This fall a commercial for the toy set that's coming out for Christmas.
1:05:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, there was some cool spots in this.
1:05:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought the best parts of this match were CM Punk and Kevin Owens fighting.
1:05:44
[SPEAKER_01]: It reminded me of that.
1:05:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Trio's match a few weeks ago where every time Swirman hangman every time they touch the crowd.
1:05:52
[SPEAKER_01]: We're just like you don't give a fuck about anything else right now We just want to see you fight.
1:05:56
[SPEAKER_01]: It felt like that when punk and Owens would get entangled up and stuff So I do think the big money feud at least for me the one thing salvage Please coming out of this WWE is go forward with the CM Punk Kevin Owens feud and
1:06:10
[SPEAKER_01]: whether you go to the next paper view or the the rumble or I don't know what but we I think there's a juicy story between these two because they're very similar.
1:06:18
[SPEAKER_01]: They're very vocal They're very good on the mic and they're big characters that people have invested years into so I do think there is some money and some great stories And you set meaningful stories with CM Punk and Kevin Owens, but everything else in this match may I really dislike like just the the
1:06:37
[SPEAKER_01]: The stupidity of that whole ambulance should, I just like, it's awful.
1:06:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, it's, again, like, yes, he's 22.
1:06:45
[SPEAKER_00]: He's, there's, there's stuff, you know, you can buy as a wrestler, like, oh, when you grow old, you'll understand to do this and do this.
1:06:55
[SPEAKER_00]: But,
1:06:56
[SPEAKER_00]: You're 22, you're not two years old.
1:06:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Like if I need to change a light bulb, I'm not going in the other room.
1:07:04
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not setting the ladder up by the bathroom to change a light bulb.
1:07:08
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm setting it up under the fucking light.
1:07:10
[SPEAKER_00]: And then he kind of goes, oh, so far I think I could be five years old and realize that that's what I have to do.
1:07:17
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm not buying the, and maybe some people were saying, I think the idea was for him to,
1:07:26
[SPEAKER_00]: he was gonna try and jump and grab the title.
1:07:30
[SPEAKER_00]: And if that was the case, he didn't sell that enough, right?
1:07:35
[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't look at the title and sort of point and be like, okay, if I can I do this and swing the arms or whatever, he didn't do that.
1:07:42
[SPEAKER_00]: It was just,
1:07:43
[SPEAKER_00]: was just stupid.
1:07:46
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that ladder was that ladder was stupid because it was so big it it just he had to clear the ring to try and set this thing up and there was it just grinded to a hole as he's trying to put up this ladder.
1:07:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not mad at the you say like I'm not mad we've seen in wrestling years of wrestling like of spots that are
1:08:05
[SPEAKER_01]: falling off of things.
1:08:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Hell in the cell.
1:08:08
[SPEAKER_01]: If I can blood and get whatever it is, we've seen hokey stupid things.
1:08:12
[SPEAKER_01]: But why did you need to do that?
1:08:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, who came up in the production meeting?
1:08:16
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what this six, there's already six people in this match.
1:08:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Seven, including Lil Yati, but you know what it really needs is an ambulance.
1:08:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's bring in a spot where you go through the roof of it.
1:08:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, were they recently watching?
1:08:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Summer slam 04 jbl undertaker all we needed was someone to walk across this thing and have it Into the top like Rikishi hell in a cell right, right.
1:08:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's just bring out a random rock ahead Yeah, oh, we need to pull the cell down so we'll bring up a truck and that just happens to be hay in the back
1:08:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not even, look, I like certain aspects of this match.
1:08:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I just said, Penta Winning, fucking sick.
1:08:58
[SPEAKER_01]: That's awesome.
1:08:58
[SPEAKER_01]: And going forward, I hope he is a baby face that like calls his shot.
1:09:03
[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe make it a, make it rumble, the paper of you matched.
1:09:06
[SPEAKER_01]: He called, he wants a title shot.
1:09:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I would love to see Penta as World Champion in WWE.
1:09:11
[SPEAKER_01]: It just makes so much sense.
1:09:12
[SPEAKER_01]: He's got to be one of the biggest merch movers, biggest new fresh faces characters.
1:09:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, since coming into WWE, he's,
1:09:19
[SPEAKER_01]: and ticked all the boxes that you would need to become a big superstar.
1:09:24
[SPEAKER_01]: And I just think there is money to be made.
1:09:26
[SPEAKER_01]: The other thing, Kevin Owens and CM Punk.
1:09:28
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not the biggest CM Punk guy, especially in 2026.
1:09:31
[SPEAKER_01]: But there's some great storytelling there with the stuff going on with Kevin and Sammy and all that stuff.
1:09:37
[SPEAKER_01]: So really enjoyed that.
1:09:38
[SPEAKER_01]: But everyone else in this match, I just...
1:09:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I came out of it, not liking them as much as I did before the match, and I think whoever came up with the, let's do this big ambulance thing with these boards of wood and javang going through it.
1:09:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that was one of the dumbest things I've seen in a long time and we have seen the mug fucking root beer dog.
1:10:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I would have preferred that in this match.
1:10:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I was laughing at this of like, who is this for?
1:10:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Is this for five year olds?
1:10:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it is.
1:10:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm reminded today.
1:10:10
[SPEAKER_01]: It is for it.
1:10:11
[SPEAKER_01]: This is a children's TV show because it felt like that.
1:10:15
[SPEAKER_01]: They're like the spot of him going through it is just so ridiculous.
1:10:21
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the height was impressive.
1:10:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you look at the still, of course.
1:10:25
[SPEAKER_00]: You look at the still of him mid-air.
1:10:26
[SPEAKER_00]: And whatever he's landing on, that's impressive.
1:10:29
[SPEAKER_00]: But that, I think it's clear, like, that's why it's done.
1:10:33
[SPEAKER_00]: I think you get, there are matches where there are moments that happen in the match that seem to make sense in the match.
1:10:40
[SPEAKER_00]: And you're like, wow, that was spectacular.
1:10:42
[SPEAKER_00]: And you can put it in your highlight, reels and the opening of Raw video game, whatever.
1:10:48
[SPEAKER_00]: And then, but then there are spots that are set up purely with that in mind.
1:10:53
[SPEAKER_00]: And this was that, you know, it's a, it's a spot that it's going to be in Javans, highlight real the still of him falling through the sky.
1:11:00
[SPEAKER_00]: But the way it made zero sense, why we're doing this.
1:11:05
[SPEAKER_00]: It just takes me out of it like I know this isn't real.
1:11:08
[SPEAKER_00]: I know it's sorry.
1:11:09
[SPEAKER_00]: I know it's scripted.
1:11:10
[SPEAKER_00]: It predetermined all that, but you've got to try and make me believe.
1:11:14
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you've got to try and make me believe that these people are actually trying to grab this briefcase.
1:11:19
[SPEAKER_00]: They're not just trying to get like fucking
1:11:24
[SPEAKER_00]: likes on a video clip.
1:11:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, it just, yeah, yeah, like punk and Owens were the only one that felt like they were, like they've actually watched ladder matches, like they watched Owen, sorry, Sean and Razor or like, you know, they, they know that you have to climb this thing to win.
1:11:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I'm getting it going, man, I'd love a one on one ladder match between these guys.
1:11:49
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they do, you know, when Jericho and Sean had theirs and they're like, we want to take it right, one ladder used to be one ladder.
1:11:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Like let's, let's, let's make it as logical sense of this as we can.
1:12:00
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm watching it going, man, I just want to see these two.
1:12:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Go at it.
1:12:04
[SPEAKER_01]: That's how I felt.
1:12:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I, I really liked the triangle ladder match a few weeks ago at all out because even if it's the young bucks, which they've totally been guilty in the past of like, oh, should we climb and win?
1:12:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Now let's do like 450s and so on.
1:12:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:12:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
1:12:21
[SPEAKER_01]: But they have gotten older and they've evolved.
1:12:23
[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't do that in that last match.
1:12:25
[SPEAKER_01]: They did things that made sense.
1:12:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Whereas this one is Javan Evans just like bless him.
1:12:30
[SPEAKER_01]: He did you you're getting those cool shots in the crazy stunts and all that stuff, but If it all does it make sense then like what's the point of it is kind of where where I'm at.
1:12:40
[SPEAKER_01]: So I was very disappointed evergreen tweet I was disappointed with this WWE paper view because yeah every time it's like oh
1:12:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't get what I wanted out of it.
1:12:53
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's not because of the decisions of the stories of people winning or losing, cool.
1:12:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm really happy that Penta won.
1:13:00
[SPEAKER_01]: That's awesome.
1:13:01
[SPEAKER_01]: That's maybe the one positive coming out of this.
1:13:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Every, maybe the other decisions live don't really care.
1:13:07
[SPEAKER_01]: LA night would have been cool, but was it needed, I guess.
1:13:10
[SPEAKER_01]: But a very unlike,
1:13:15
[SPEAKER_01]: What's the opposite of spectacular?
1:13:17
[SPEAKER_01]: It was just uninspiring.
1:13:19
[SPEAKER_01]: It felt like just another one of these Chuggin' along WWE PLEs and are they even doing the next one?
1:13:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it even happening?
1:13:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Are they even gonna be allowed to go travel for these shows?
1:13:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I'm not trying I'm trying not to be so hard on this show.
1:13:36
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not the worst thing I've seen.
1:13:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't get me wrong.
1:13:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Probably just probably worse this year was wrestle polo's of this year.
1:13:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I forget I just feel like that's coming out last year.
1:13:44
[SPEAKER_01]: No, there's one coming up.
1:13:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I just feel like even when it's a big gimmick of the latter match, which I don't know is the
1:13:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Money in the bank thing played out.
1:13:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Have they ran its course on coming up with good ideas for not only the briefcase holders, but the actual match like with ambulances and all this weird shit.
1:14:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, but uh, yeah thumbs down.
1:14:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.
1:14:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Where are you at?
1:14:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:14:10
[SPEAKER_00]: No, not really, like, thumbs towards the bottom, like I, you know, I still respect these people, like these are dangerous matches they're doing.
1:14:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
1:14:19
[SPEAKER_00]: And I, I, I'm not going to go too hard on the ambulance spot because because you just said, right?
1:14:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's, it's, has it run its course?
1:14:27
[SPEAKER_00]: We see this match all the time, like you're constantly thinking what, what can we do to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to
1:14:35
[SPEAKER_00]: make this like do do something we haven't seen do a different like so I don't mind people taking a swing at things like I didn't love that triangle ladder match like it was it was fine I can remember nothing from it like two weeks later I'm going to remember this ambulance spot whether I like to or not like at least that is something when you go in years time
1:14:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Money in the back 2026.
1:14:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, that was the one where Japan had a ginormous ladder and positioned it wrong and fell through a wooden ambulance.
1:15:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, but...
1:15:07
[SPEAKER_00]: I enjoyed Roman L.A. Knight, like I thought the show was off to a hot start and couldn't care less about the rest of it.
1:15:15
[SPEAKER_00]: And it just feels some of these paper views.
1:15:19
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd still like even if it's just a little midcard ICUS title thing or a tag tag title match or something.
1:15:29
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd like at least one more match on these cards.
1:15:31
[SPEAKER_00]: It almost feels like
1:15:35
[SPEAKER_00]: we're rushing to get this show out the way.
1:15:37
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, we've got money in vain.
1:15:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's get it done.
1:15:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's get out of here.
1:15:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's start it like today with us.
1:15:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, can we start at one today instead of two?
1:15:45
[SPEAKER_00]: So I can celebrate Thanksgiving with my family.
1:15:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's get this done.
1:15:49
[SPEAKER_00]: It feels like this with these PLEs.
1:15:51
[SPEAKER_00]: It's used to be a teclop.
1:15:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Then it was seven o'clock.
1:15:54
[SPEAKER_00]: It's bucket.
1:15:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's just start it at five.
1:15:56
[SPEAKER_00]: So we can all go home.
1:15:58
[SPEAKER_00]: It feels like they're trying to get it out the way, which is,
1:16:03
[SPEAKER_00]: I shouldn't be feeling when I'm watching what's in a paper for you.
1:16:06
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he was like that every time.
1:16:09
[SPEAKER_01]: It feels like there's commercials with some things in between.
1:16:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Is what it feels like just saying it how I feel is a lot of these things.
1:16:19
[SPEAKER_01]: If I didn't have, if we didn't watch this like with a giant group, I probably would have hated this even more if I was just watching this by myself.
1:16:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Because then I'd be like, what is, why am I watching?
1:16:28
[SPEAKER_01]: I probably will watch it on Saturday night, but like watching with people, you could understand when we're all reacting in similar ways.
1:16:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, oh, oh, oh, oh, even the ambience thing.
1:16:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Everyone was standing up like, oh, oh, okay, it looked cool, but everyone was screaming, I hear people in the crowd, like, why are you setting up the ladder there?
1:16:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Even these kids in the front row were like,
1:16:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, when I was young, when the first money in the bank took place, me and my brothers who were half brothers were a lot younger, had like this doctor's play kit like Fisher Price or whatever, so my brother took this fake briefcase and like hung it up.
1:17:11
[SPEAKER_01]: in our basement.
1:17:12
[SPEAKER_01]: So then we had our ladder match where we had to fight and then go and physically grab it.
1:17:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Even my eight-year-old brother was like, oh, I have to grab it here.
1:17:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Not over there.
1:17:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyways, well happy Pente one.
1:17:26
[SPEAKER_01]: That's cool.
1:17:26
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you see?
1:17:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's let's quickly like does he cash in on a paper view?
1:17:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Does he say, hey, roll, rumble, or hey, elimination chamber, or hey, I want my shot.
1:17:37
[SPEAKER_00]: I, like, he has it for a year, right?
1:17:40
[SPEAKER_00]: So there's no rushing with this thing.
1:17:43
[SPEAKER_00]: You could even have him put it on the line in matches to just keep him relevant and make, you know, have him, I'm not saying lose it, but defend it, maybe, to keep him busy.
1:17:57
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he should be a call your shot.
1:18:01
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd like it to be against Roman, like that would be cool, but I think when he calls his shot, he should win it.
1:18:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, if over Roman is the plan,
1:18:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I mean, maybe it's holding this on till way after Mania, uh, but I think it should be sort of like, Rob Van Dam did in East Germany, where it's, it's calling it for home ground advantage, you know, whether that's Mexico or San Francisco or something, you know, like that should be the,
1:18:32
[SPEAKER_00]: San Jose.
1:18:33
[SPEAKER_00]: That should be like when he's doing it.
1:18:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Unless it's like I don't think we SmackDown is bloated right now in a good way with with people going after Sami's title.
1:18:46
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's been we saw it with the DMJF when that really worked in AEW when you've got a lot of people after the same thing.
1:18:55
[SPEAKER_00]: But we don't need I don't think we need Penta added to that mix on SmackDown yet
1:19:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I see the live, sorry, the Tiffany Taschenbeings soon.
1:19:07
[SPEAKER_00]: I see this being way into next year.
1:19:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
1:19:10
[SPEAKER_00]: That would be helpful on this.
1:19:11
[SPEAKER_01]: I just, I do hope that they, they do go with him.
1:19:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's got to be one of the coolest guys.
1:19:17
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like obviously Ober should be your big, big focus and maybe he's the one to beat Roman, et cetera, et cetera.
1:19:23
[SPEAKER_01]: But this guy is just waiting in the wings for
1:19:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, he's got to be one of the biggest merch movers.
1:19:31
[SPEAKER_01]: He's got to be one of the biggest characters on TV.
1:19:33
[SPEAKER_00]: They used to keep everybody dust with this briefcase.
1:19:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
1:19:36
[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to make it look pimped out.
1:19:37
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I do think that was the one plus of like, I think we are calling.
1:19:43
[SPEAKER_01]: It's got to be punk or Owens probably winning, because there's a history of Samian on that.
1:19:46
[SPEAKER_01]: But this was totally left field.
1:19:48
[SPEAKER_01]: But we were saying our heart wanted pented a win.
1:19:50
[SPEAKER_01]: So that was the one plus.
1:19:52
[SPEAKER_01]: The destroyer looked good on Braun.
1:19:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
1:19:55
[SPEAKER_01]: That was cool.
1:19:55
[SPEAKER_01]: So good for Penta.
1:19:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Happy for it.
1:19:58
[SPEAKER_01]: So there you go.
1:19:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Money in the bank agreed to agree.
1:20:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Let us know in the comments section.
1:20:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Was it thumbs up or thumbs down for you?
1:20:05
[SPEAKER_01]: What did you like what didn't you like?
1:20:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe you didn't like the whole show, but we didn't get the mug group beer dog this time.
1:20:13
[SPEAKER_01]: I was pretty pissed maybe next time Where else do we want to talk about before we get out of here?
1:20:19
[SPEAKER_01]: There was a Grand slam
1:20:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, across the border, across the end, across the world, AEW Grand Slam France.
1:20:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Bonsoir, Bonsoir, whatever, they kept saying, Bon, how do you say good luck?
1:20:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, Bonsoir, Bonsoir's, Bonsoir's like, Renee kept saying it to people, and I was like, she's saying good luck.
1:20:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I understand French as it can be.
1:20:46
[SPEAKER_00]: I just, I've been a Paris a bunch, but I haven't really been since I've been an adult.
1:20:51
[SPEAKER_00]: So, I do know next time I go to Paris, and it's pretty easy to get to you from London.
1:20:56
[SPEAKER_00]: You can literally take the train, but I've got to visit the arc, D'Orcada.
1:21:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Ocada got a whole arch named after him, which is great.
1:21:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I like to Ocada's promo from this thing.
1:21:11
[SPEAKER_01]: I've really liked Ocada's character in AEW, and I think I was worried about it at first, but I think, kind of secretly one of my favorite characters of this just...
1:21:24
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, just a smiley face, middle finger, raising.
1:21:30
[SPEAKER_00]: They've made him, they've made him walk from American TV.
1:21:33
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it's been very successful.
1:21:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, they've done with our work.
1:21:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:21:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I really do.
1:21:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I do think that is something that has worked.
1:21:41
[SPEAKER_01]: It could have been so easy.
1:21:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I think me and you were guilty of like, fuck it, go to WWE.
1:21:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see the robes and the rainmaker pose and everything.
1:21:49
[SPEAKER_01]: trying something completely new here with this that this heel character and I do genuinely like it.
1:21:57
[SPEAKER_01]: So eight of you grand slam, we had some some great matches.
1:22:01
[SPEAKER_01]: The crowd are really hot for this in the Adidas Center.
1:22:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Mmm, Adidas.
1:22:08
[SPEAKER_01]: We had coffee, don't call him Kingston, taking on Bandito for the ROH World title.
1:22:15
[SPEAKER_01]: That sentence alone is crazy.
1:22:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Coffee Kingston challenging for the Ring of Honor World title on AWTV against Bandito.
1:22:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just a second.
1:22:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think we're still during like bit of a honeymoon period where I think yeah.
1:22:32
[SPEAKER_00]: any graphic with especially coffee I feel because he's like he's been in was in WWE forever right like any graphic you have coffee with anyone feels weird in a good way so yeah I was all for this
1:22:49
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been really loved the trio's stuff that they've been doing, especially that last one at the paper, you stole the show.
1:22:55
[SPEAKER_01]: It has been announced that it's a rematch at Russell Dream next week, and it's a two out of three false trio's match.
1:23:01
[SPEAKER_01]: So potentially another show, Steve, you're there and very excited that one.
1:23:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I thought this was a really fun match and they did a good job of obviously Bandito retaining, but they continuing the feud of these three and specifically Hangman and Swerve.
1:23:16
[SPEAKER_01]: The walkout during this match where you had Swerve come out and Hangman come out and like the crowd just
1:23:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Eat it up.
1:23:23
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know kind of like punk and Owens and kind of like Roman and Oh, but it's like, yeah, we know we're going to go back to this match and we want this match like as soon as we can, but at the same time.
1:23:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm okay with us not getting it right now.
1:23:41
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
1:23:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, if I'm WWE, I probably wouldn't book Kevin Owens and Sam Funk on the next paper view.
1:23:47
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd probably make you wait for a little bit more.
1:23:49
[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe that's something they'll do with Hangman and Swerv.
1:23:52
[SPEAKER_01]: But, uh, Kofi with the WWE handcuffs off.
1:23:56
[SPEAKER_01]: He's doing some crazy stuff.
1:23:58
[SPEAKER_01]: in the ring that that that stomp that he he's borrowed from was it Trevor Lee seen camograms yeah he really has a must a while but like it's it but now yeah this one this one looked really good here uh so bandito hits the 21plex there was there was an SOS into the turn buckle and Austin Creed on the the outside was like see
1:24:21
[SPEAKER_01]: That's new stuff.
1:24:21
[SPEAKER_01]: We got new stuff here in a since coming to aid up because we've never seen them do the SOS into the term buckle.
1:24:27
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I don't like you say it's we're still in this like, wow, look at these new toys here in in a w, but bless coffee.
1:24:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's been around for like 20 years and he's still going so cool to see that.
1:24:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Samoa Joe beat Jack Perry.
1:24:44
[SPEAKER_01]: For the clockwork carnage match, I know you are really bummed that Jack Perry's not going to be in the clockwork carnage match, but I was kind of like, oh, this is probably gonna be a match where I might.
1:24:58
[SPEAKER_01]: kind of be watching on my phone while I surf like Twitter or Amazon or whatever, but I kind of got into it.
1:25:04
[SPEAKER_01]: So Mojo is whooping this boy's ass.
1:25:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought on TV here.
1:25:08
[SPEAKER_01]: So I obviously think the right guy one, but as much as I think maybe in the back of my head, I give Jack Perry shit, he usually is pretty fun when it comes to his matches.
1:25:17
[SPEAKER_01]: And I thought he played the part here, getting beat up by Joe.
1:25:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I still, I, I appreciate what.
1:25:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Jack Perry's been trying, you know, for quite a few years now, like breaking out of being just the the Tarzan boy, which worked so well with Jurassic Express, but at some point you have to evolve out of it.
1:25:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Similarly to like Bailey couldn't always be the hugger, even though all these years later, we all still think that's the best version of Bailey, but realistically she's a she's a grown-ass woman now.
1:25:52
[SPEAKER_00]: She shouldn't have this, like, can't really make that gimmick work,
1:25:58
[SPEAKER_00]: There is something a little tri-hard I find with Jack Perry in these in these promos where and in his matches where he's trying to be a tough guy, but you know, dropping an F bomb or spitting or whatever and I just don't quite buy it.
1:26:14
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's a good wrestler and I thought there were some fun moments in this match.
1:26:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Joe's always great.
1:26:20
[SPEAKER_00]: That walk away spot gets me
1:26:24
[SPEAKER_01]: not only it's like a tope or something but having it from the mood so I thought was very funny there was some good stuff but yeah yeah I didn't I didn't love this match the right person one in Joe entering clockwork carnage yeah more more on that because we we know some matches announced this week or that uh I thought this next match was crazy Kyle Fletcher and Darby Allen I think anytime
1:26:50
[SPEAKER_01]: super into what they've been doing, but now they're against each other, which is I don't know if these guys should be able to be allowed to wrestle each other.
1:26:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm nervous.
1:26:59
[SPEAKER_01]: The next, both these guys, M.O.
1:27:02
[SPEAKER_01]: is, how far can I push myself for the entertainment?
1:27:07
[SPEAKER_01]: And I get worried when I watch you, either of these guys wrestle.
1:27:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean that in the most respectful, I love these two and I was screaming at my TV when he did the the backdrop like 450 thing onto a table.
1:27:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, Darby's insane.
1:27:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Then there was like a brainbuster off the top as well.
1:27:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I was
1:27:31
[SPEAKER_00]: That's like you have other matches and you're backstage and you're putting together this match.
1:27:36
[SPEAKER_00]: They go, okay, what should we do?
1:27:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's do traditional.
1:27:38
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll lock up.
1:27:39
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll push you into the ropes, drop down, leap frog.
1:27:42
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll grab a wrist lock.
1:27:43
[SPEAKER_00]: You can flip out on that.
1:27:44
[SPEAKER_00]: You can apply a wrist lock to me.
1:27:45
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll roll out of that and then we'll have a stalemate.
1:27:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Cool.
1:27:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:27:50
[SPEAKER_00]: How do you want to start this match, Darby?
1:27:51
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
1:27:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Pick me up and throw me head first in the guard railing.
1:27:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Cool.
1:27:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's do it.
1:28:00
[SPEAKER_01]: have what we do a drop down into an avalanche brain buster that's like okay sure sure I will say a nice little like not to the the Derby sting thing is Derby hits the coffin drop twice
1:28:21
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's from the setup from the Scorpion Death Drop, uh, Death Lock, you know what I mean?
1:28:26
[SPEAKER_01]: So it kind of makes the move almost part of a setup for his finish, which I really want.
1:28:30
[SPEAKER_00]: And, and also just, uh, we're talking about believability, you know, I think Darby, you look at him and,
1:28:40
[SPEAKER_00]: He's undersized, and he's against a big guy in Carl Fletcher, but the way he wrestles just makes so much sense.
1:28:48
[SPEAKER_00]: And all the spots in this match, none of them looked set up.
1:28:53
[SPEAKER_00]: We weren't getting into position because we're gonna do something crazy.
1:28:57
[SPEAKER_00]: They just happened.
1:28:58
[SPEAKER_00]: And I love this finish.
1:28:59
[SPEAKER_00]: It's Darby, like the way he wins matches is by just enduring all this pain and capitalizing on as soon as he gets that,
1:29:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Sly in, you know, you said he managed to lock in the scorpion deathlock and then, oh, you're right by the ropes.
1:29:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to run up as quick as I can.
1:29:18
[SPEAKER_00]: One coffin drop.
1:29:19
[SPEAKER_00]: You're still down.
1:29:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Hit you with the second.
1:29:21
[SPEAKER_00]: It makes sense.
1:29:22
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that we saw that during his volatile rum, just he, I always believed Arby, you know, and even when he's against monsters twice his size, like I believe that this guy can beat him.
1:29:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I also think he's stepped up and we've seen him at the media and just the way he carries himself now.
1:29:45
[SPEAKER_01]: He seems like he's like this evolved person.
1:29:48
[SPEAKER_01]: He's so happy.
1:29:51
[SPEAKER_01]: He's become one of my favorites.
1:29:52
[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, he's been one of our favorites since the beginning of AEW.
1:29:56
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's kind of cool to see the evolution of him and how he stays true to himself.
1:30:01
[SPEAKER_01]: And like I said, these two just have death wishes, but for my entertainment, I love to watch it.
1:30:07
[SPEAKER_01]: This is a crazy match.
1:30:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't even know this match was added.
1:30:10
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I watched the show in the graphic was like, yeah, this match is next.
1:30:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I don't know if I'm prepared for this and I don't know if I was with some of the, like, rematch this shit down the line
1:30:20
[SPEAKER_01]: I love Kyle Fletcher so much.
1:30:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's going to be a great world champion when that time comes, but incredible athletes these two.
1:30:28
[SPEAKER_01]: We had Mercedes Monet, depending against Queen Aminata in Paris, France here, fun little match, but I don't think anyone necessarily believed Queen Aminata was going to be the one to take it from Mercedes just since she, she just wanted Mercedes got that swag.
1:30:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Smart booking though with Queen Aminada, you know, from Papua New Guinea, so speaking French fluently, and I believe she was doing some of the media rounds and had a good reaction here in front, so people were behind her in this match.
1:30:59
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel she's
1:31:01
[SPEAKER_00]: bit of an LA night in the way in this company like I think she's great.
1:31:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I think she's so different from the rest of the roster and her strikes look great.
1:31:11
[SPEAKER_00]: I think she has a presence about her and I really wish she'd
1:31:17
[SPEAKER_00]: have a bit of a run, maybe with the TBS title or something, because I think she always is put into these positions where it's match graphic and you know exactly who's winning and it's not Queen Aminada.
1:31:30
[SPEAKER_00]: But she always puts on a great match and I don't know when her contract is up, but I really hope they make a play to keep her here and push her elevate her, because I think she's fully capable of being one of the women in the top of the division.
1:31:46
[SPEAKER_01]: She, she could be.
1:31:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, if they, if they were to maybe put some stalker effort into her, like they could say, I think she gets over or organically over the less she's been this, this, you know, good hand this
1:32:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Jabra to the stars essentially you said she does lose a lot, but she's been at least featured Punchy.
1:32:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Like she's one of the people that was sort of you know buried in the middle of a rampage or a collision and then you go, oh Who is this and she's she's putting over the other person, but it's she's always being fantastic I think and I've been loving Mercedes and the stuff with tech like that's a big match up to to look forward to next week But the main event
1:32:27
[SPEAKER_01]: because Uchka O'Kada will ask for the A.W.
1:32:29
[SPEAKER_01]: World Championship.
1:32:31
[SPEAKER_01]: What the hell was this crowd singing?
1:32:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Some French song to will ask for it.
1:32:34
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what it was, but they loved it.
1:32:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, they sang phenomenal.
1:32:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Didn't they?
1:32:40
[SPEAKER_00]: The AJ Styles song.
1:32:43
[SPEAKER_00]: They sang that a few times, especially when Osprey's last flash.
1:32:47
[SPEAKER_00]: But there was something else they were singing and waving their hands.
1:32:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
1:32:51
[SPEAKER_00]: I should figure it out.
1:32:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, card is always great for a gift because him him walking away.
1:32:56
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like fuck this these people don't sin as I'm having a match and just in the on the ramp Oh, kind of dancing.
1:33:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.
1:33:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it broke so sorry.
1:33:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this was great.
1:33:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Every time these two have tangled we know it's been pretty magic and I thought this was a fantastic main event
1:33:14
[SPEAKER_01]: kind of similar.
1:33:15
[SPEAKER_01]: We were just saying like no one's buying clean Ammonata beating Mercedes.
1:33:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought the same thing.
1:33:20
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, come on.
1:33:21
[SPEAKER_01]: We just went through Wembley all this stuff, Osprey ain't losing this to Okada on a Dynamite in France, but it's still made for a great match and these two have.
1:33:32
[SPEAKER_01]: awesome chemistry.
1:33:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Really hot crowd, some crazy sequences.
1:33:36
[SPEAKER_01]: You mentioned that like stiles clashed stuff, all the different counters, these two really know each other well.
1:33:42
[SPEAKER_01]: The rain makers, the big rainmaker kick out, even a stormbreaker kick out here where I thought it was over and then he...
1:33:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Kicks out of it, so he's like, all right, I guess I'll have to elbow you in the face again.
1:33:54
[SPEAKER_01]: So he does that and retains the AW championship.
1:33:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we could easily go back to this match down the line.
1:34:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I know we've seen it quite a few times in New Japan, but seeing it here in the AW world for the first time, it delivered.
1:34:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, sorry, they wrestled.
1:34:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, right, right, right.
1:34:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Classic semi final.
1:34:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Was it?
1:34:14
[SPEAKER_01]: That was a better one.
1:34:15
[SPEAKER_01]: That was obviously a better one.
1:34:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, but this was still really good.
1:34:18
[SPEAKER_00]: So anocarder one, that one didn't it?
1:34:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Because he, that's right, based on the final line.
1:34:24
[SPEAKER_00]: So one piece now in AEW, I think you can revisit this with going through their history a bit more and having something a bit more meaningful down the line.
1:34:34
[SPEAKER_00]: But what I respect with AEW is you had two matches on this show that really you look at the graphic and you think, all right.
1:34:46
[SPEAKER_00]: We should probably be having some sort of Schmars finish here, some some way of protecting the loser in the match, because top stars in Okada and who's international champion and Carl Fletcher, who's positioned very highly as well.
1:35:00
[SPEAKER_00]: And they're not afraid to beat them, you know, and that's fine.
1:35:06
[SPEAKER_00]: You can tell stories out of losses and it's okay for your top guys to win Matt to lose matches against other top guys.
1:35:12
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't always have to do the DQ or the distraction or the time limit to all or whatever.
1:35:19
[SPEAKER_00]: And I respect it with both the Derby match and this is a card match on this show.
1:35:23
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a sport to them.
1:35:26
[SPEAKER_01]: I know this is a fake show and it's a TV show and this and that.
1:35:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like you have Man City versus Arsenal.
1:35:39
[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't always just end in a one-one draw.
1:35:41
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you have you have people got lose teams upset and win and lose and everything.
1:35:46
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I don't think this hurt Alcada like Alcada in Australia.
1:35:50
[SPEAKER_01]: There's some crazy stuff.
1:35:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I was thinking of that.
1:35:55
[SPEAKER_01]: the whole thing into the style's clash, but the O'Conna goes for his pat and a dropkick and Osprey counters it into a sit-out-liger bomb.
1:36:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, they just clearly know the story as I know you so well, you taught me everything, yeah.
1:36:07
[SPEAKER_01]: You knew, right?
1:36:07
[SPEAKER_01]: So I would love to see this down the line.
1:36:10
[SPEAKER_00]: This didn't reach the sort of that G1 match they had, or even the continental classic.
1:36:19
[SPEAKER_00]: But it still went over these two tie-ups.
1:36:21
[SPEAKER_00]: They know each other so well, and they waited on something great.
1:36:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I said about the Derby Fletcher, like any time O'Cotta or Ospreys in a match, I'm usually gonna watch it.
1:36:30
[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, good stuff.
1:36:34
[SPEAKER_00]: I enjoyed this show.
1:36:35
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it was, there wasn't much story progression or anything like that, but it felt non-canon.
1:36:42
[SPEAKER_00]: It did feel non-canon and I think they've been in a tricky spot this last month with obviously the two tribute shows we've had really as well as this paper view and sorry this like grand slam event in Paris and a tight turnaround with the next
1:37:04
[SPEAKER_00]: I think most fans realize it and can kind of forgive that there hasn't been much build to anything.
1:37:11
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we just had what Moxley and Davis announced because Davis and Doyle beat the death riders.
1:37:17
[SPEAKER_00]: And that just felt a little like thrown together and matched graphic and up, but I kind of give them a pass this month with everything that's obviously happened.
1:37:26
[SPEAKER_00]: And the wrestling still fantastic.
1:37:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, this week felt like the story story stuff wasn't necessarily something, but you got a lot of the great wrestling.
1:37:35
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think for their first show in France, the crowd were so hungry for it.
1:37:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I think A.W.
1:37:42
[SPEAKER_01]: should do way, stop going to fucking Chicago and Corpus Christi or ever.
1:37:49
[SPEAKER_01]: to other places in the world.
1:37:51
[SPEAKER_01]: If my AW is somewhat of a success and you're seeing, like, I would imagine, and I know he said this, and I think some some pressurms, probably something we heard him say.
1:38:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Clearly, numbers somewhere, we're showing him some people in France, we're watching.
1:38:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe we should do a show there.
1:38:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's sold really well, and they were really hot.
1:38:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm, we're also, they're watching us.
1:38:11
[SPEAKER_01]: and go there.
1:38:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Stop going to Chicago and these places like the rest of dream is in Florida.
1:38:17
[SPEAKER_01]: It's in Orlando and looking at restal ticks.
1:38:20
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not sold that great.
1:38:22
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
1:38:23
[SPEAKER_01]: It's now mind you.
1:38:24
[SPEAKER_01]: It's sold more than whatever bound for glory has tonight.
1:38:26
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's not necessarily saying, wow, this is a hot sell out thing.
1:38:30
[SPEAKER_01]: It's because they keep going these places that these people see these characters all the time.
1:38:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Think of when they go to a France here Orange Cassidy coming out.
1:38:40
[SPEAKER_01]: This is the first time these people are ever watching him.
1:38:43
[SPEAKER_01]: So of course they're going to lose their minds doing the the whole stick to people who may
1:38:50
[SPEAKER_01]: we've seen these characters time and time and time but when you go to these new places it's like a whole new thing it's like a band finally playing a city they've never played of course those people are gonna scream the lyrics out of these songs because they've never fucking been able to before so yeah i would love to see a european tour uh japan show paper view something just go to these other places because the fans are there and they're not necessarily
1:39:18
[SPEAKER_01]: in America in Chicago or Texas or wherever they keep going.
1:39:23
[SPEAKER_01]: So it was really refreshing to see like, you know, when we were in a London for all in, we ran into some French guys who were talking about like how excited they were that AW was finally coming and all that.
1:39:34
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like that.
1:39:34
[SPEAKER_01]: That's so cool to see like we're lucky enough that we do get a lot of stuff here in Toronto and Indie wrestling and all that stuff and we're not far away from a quick flight to New York or wherever else that gets a ton of shows.
1:39:48
[SPEAKER_00]: these fans were a rabbit for and I remember when AJ and Cody fought at that show the phenomenal and all that like same thing they're like fuck we don't ever get this so it's cool that we do so I enjoy I mean I think Germany makes a whole lot of sense to run there we've seen and don't absolutely Italy crowds big I think I think Germany makes a whole lot of sense just because they've got quite they've always had a bit of a thriving independent scene as well so you have the sort of
1:40:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Smart fans, if you will, who I would imagine, would be big into AEW.
1:40:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, absolutely.
1:40:23
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm always for them trying new places and getting those hot crowds.
1:40:28
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, even when they came to London, it was a bit of a sprite, like our London on Terry, right?
1:40:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, the real London.
1:40:36
[SPEAKER_00]: like we we were I just remember being in that that pub and the bartenders like hey are you going to the wrestling like everyone's already left and we're like oh everyone's gone to the ring of on a tape boom beforehand okay and it just shows how how much they wanted to see it.
1:40:55
[SPEAKER_01]: how much they wanted to see wrestling that never comes to their town so when it does it's like, yeah, I want to go out and support.
1:41:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I do want to see the Ring of Honor trio's champions.
1:41:04
[SPEAKER_01]: I do want to see the Orange Cassidy wrestle on collision.
1:41:07
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like when they keep going to the same places, it's that's why people leave or and not stay for certain things or well, I've already seen it before.
1:41:15
[SPEAKER_01]: What are they offering this time that I didn't get the last time?
1:41:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Whereas you're going to completely new place, it's untried a territory, you know?
1:41:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Elvis should have toured the world and he didn't and then he died.
1:41:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so Trap take your art all around the world while you can even if it's silly for a wrestling that we all love But I like this show.
1:41:35
[SPEAKER_01]: It did feel like a non-cannon.
1:41:37
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll say the wrestling on AW always does deliver for me
1:41:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't say I'm very excited for a paper view which is next weekend and definitely doesn't feel like it's a paper view next weekend.
1:41:49
[SPEAKER_01]: It feels like it's just going to be one of these grand slams.
1:41:53
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like the card as of now looks pretty good.
1:41:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm excited to watch it and I'm sure it'll be great and we will talk about it next week.
1:42:00
[SPEAKER_01]: But Mercedes versus Tecla.
1:42:03
[SPEAKER_01]: is announced.
1:42:04
[SPEAKER_01]: We got the young bucks versus Kevin Knight and Kyle Fletcher, a rematch from a few weeks ago, but I know that would be an awesome tag match.
1:42:12
[SPEAKER_01]: John Moxley, Mark Davis, Swerve and the new level versus the good the bad in the handsome in a two out of three falls trios match.
1:42:21
[SPEAKER_01]: We got the brawling birds versus Rathlander, and we got on Draw Day versus Champa.
1:42:27
[SPEAKER_01]: That sounds pretty good.
1:42:27
[SPEAKER_01]: That's an NXT rematch.
1:42:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, didn't champ a beat on dry day for the NXT championship or no, that was ours to black No, be on dry day.
1:42:38
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, he beat on dry day on dry day be drew drew and black drew beat on dry day.
1:42:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe and then champ took it from him
1:42:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like that's I had no idea that had been added.
1:42:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we've had we've had pretty much no build to this show.
1:42:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Even take on Mercedes is kind of built for all out that didn't happen.
1:43:00
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, so it's yeah, it's we've not but as I said with the whole stuff with pack, like I think you can kind of forgive like the lack of build for this one.
1:43:10
[SPEAKER_00]: But then use kind of that's the first time I've heard this card sort of
1:43:15
[SPEAKER_00]: said like everything that's happening.
1:43:17
[SPEAKER_00]: That's how it's great.
1:43:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Like there's some really good matches there.
1:43:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Like we know the trio's match two out three falls.
1:43:24
[SPEAKER_00]: The last one was fantastic.
1:43:26
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure that's going to deliver again.
1:43:27
[SPEAKER_00]: What is it?
1:43:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Box versus Fletcher and Knight.
1:43:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Like that's good.
1:43:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Mark Davis is always fun to watch.
1:43:34
[SPEAKER_00]: It's very much a look at the match graphic, and okay, Lowell, John Moxley wins, but I'm sure that's gonna be a lot of fun.
1:43:41
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the intrigue in this cluster of the main event, the where we can pretty much predict, I think, with some matches and else what it's gonna be.
1:43:51
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think I'm quite actually looking forward to this.
1:43:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Now I've seen the card, I think it does look like it could be a pretty fun event.
1:44:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Look, every time they have a paper view, I'm like, oh, I don't like how they did the story here and then I watch and I'm like, the wrestling was stellar.
1:44:10
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's usually a rinse repeat.
1:44:11
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm not even gonna be like, ah, but obviously with trippy shows and tours and stuff, they have maybe lost a little of the build to the show that maybe some people don't even know it's happening next week and you might watch this show every week and they kind of go, oh, hey, by the way, it is.
1:44:28
[SPEAKER_01]: next week so uh... the clockwork carnage match uh... it's looking like and less miren read beats alcada this week uh... or a sosten beats ricochet or brine and cage beats to cached uh... or if josh alexander beats copem i really do wonder who's gonna make it into this clockwork carnage match oh and darby versus etchisara
1:44:53
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's it's all the champions are putting qualifying matches.
1:44:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh for fuck sake, though It's cuz diabetes TNT will cope isn't it's national.
1:45:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry.
1:45:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Andrade is not in the match Copies in a champion Obviously or Carter is who else do we say Josh technically is I guess but not in either Yes, but still yeah, yeah, I think I think I'm actually quite looking forward to seeing how this
1:45:20
[SPEAKER_00]: gimmick works, and I think now we know pretty much what so we're having.
1:45:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Osprey, Joe, speedball, Okada, Koep, Okada, Takeshida, Darby, and who have I missed?
1:45:35
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's it.
1:45:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Busy eight.
1:45:37
[SPEAKER_01]: We need one more.
1:45:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Osprey, Joe, Okada, speedball, Ricochet, Takeshida, Koep, Ricochet.
1:45:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, yeah, that sounds nuts and I think some combinations there sound really fun And I'm kind of glad cops in this as well because I think there's some interesting hey Josh could win him getting to work some people Just could win just could win.
1:45:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Carter cope.
1:45:59
[SPEAKER_01]: That's this is what's gonna set up.
1:46:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Carter V cope at the Tokyo dome That's what sets the same thing Yeah, I'm I'm kind of looking forward to it.
1:46:09
[SPEAKER_00]: I think this could be a could be a fun thing fun match
1:46:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, the stipulation is different.
1:46:14
[SPEAKER_01]: We know they're trying something new.
1:46:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Osprey's made it clear.
1:46:18
[SPEAKER_01]: He's done this in his Eve promotion.
1:46:20
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like he's kind of brain child here.
1:46:22
[SPEAKER_01]: But the people in it, I'm sure it'll be good.
1:46:25
[SPEAKER_01]: I just think it's clearly Osprey retains kind of situation as maybe the one thing.
1:46:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, okay, I think I would have preferred if you did a story going into Ocada versus Osprey as the paper view matchup.
1:46:41
[SPEAKER_00]: this match will deliver or even feels like this, this lens itself more to, you know, a little while ago when MJF was championed and everyone's done it.
1:46:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:46:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Like this feels like if you were to announce this match for SmackDown with, you'd go, yeah, that makes sense because there's seven people who are after Sammy's title right now makes a whole lot of sense.
1:47:10
[SPEAKER_01]: He's been MIA.
1:47:12
[SPEAKER_01]: He lost to Kyle Fletcher and then's been off doing new Japan and DDT.
1:47:16
[SPEAKER_01]: He's one of the rare triple contracts right now.
1:47:20
[SPEAKER_01]: He's working three different companies and trying to like flying back and forth from Japan and this and that.
1:47:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Like dude is working a lot.
1:47:28
[SPEAKER_01]: So bless him and he's got to be one of the best wrestlers alive on this planet.
1:47:32
[SPEAKER_01]: However, K-Fabes, looking at wind's losses all that stuff, he's been gone from this show, and the last time we saw him, he lost.
1:47:43
[SPEAKER_01]: And the time before that, he lost.
1:47:46
[SPEAKER_01]: So why is he getting a title shot?
1:47:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Why, why is he getting a title shot?
1:47:51
[SPEAKER_01]: No offense to Ocada.
1:47:52
[SPEAKER_01]: You just lost to the champion.
1:47:54
[SPEAKER_00]: He's not getting a title shot.
1:47:56
[SPEAKER_00]: He's, he's got a face brand cage to prove it, right?
1:47:59
[SPEAKER_01]: No offense to cope.
1:48:01
[SPEAKER_01]: You just lost your tag team title.
1:48:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Why would you all of a sudden be going after,
1:48:07
[SPEAKER_01]: the world title.
1:48:08
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a few things I'm questioning here.
1:48:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just saying, I know this match is going to be great.
1:48:14
[SPEAKER_01]: But the TNT champion should maybe be defending his title and not going for another championship.
1:48:21
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just nitpicking here.
1:48:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
1:48:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I can do the same to WWE.
1:48:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I can do the same to WWE.
1:48:25
[SPEAKER_01]: There's things that make me go.
1:48:27
[SPEAKER_01]: But why did you end up that way?
1:48:31
[SPEAKER_01]: But at the end of the day, I'm sure the people are going to do it.
1:48:33
[SPEAKER_00]: I think sometimes, so, you know, AW tried doing a ranking system and people should on that.
1:48:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I feel sometimes it's you just, yeah, I think you'd also go, you can go the opposite.
1:48:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Why are you having, like,
1:48:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Why would you not have the champions in this?
1:48:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I know from a like story point of view, like, yeah, they should all be defending their titles, but if you're the champion, if you're holding a title and you've been defending that, you're proven to be one of the best in the company, why would you not get a shot at the world title?
1:49:05
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, it's just a lot of the champions you can go.
1:49:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Criticize it either way, like it's, and sometimes it's just,
1:49:14
[SPEAKER_01]: it's wrestling, you know, it's, of course, do we need every single little thing explained and sometimes they do and we criticize it for overexplaning or whatever, but I'm sure I'm sure there's paper like the cycles are always spotty and there's some, some head scratching, but then when the, when the show actually happens, it's usually pretty good.
1:49:33
[SPEAKER_01]: So,
1:49:35
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd say the last one was the last one.
1:49:37
[SPEAKER_01]: All that was, all right, wasn't necessarily like holy shit, like we saw at all in or like we saw at, fuck, what was it, double or nothing this year?
1:49:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Like those were just, I think that's a problem.
1:49:49
[SPEAKER_01]: When he shows it just so good that everything else is like, oh, well, this was just okay.
1:49:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Where is WWE?
1:49:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my, WWE's the opposite.
1:49:56
[SPEAKER_01]: They put on shitters every fucking month and then you go, well, this one wasn't that bad.
1:50:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Had LA night in Roman reigns.
1:50:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's the opposite where it's like, oh, well, this shows sucked because the last one was just so good.
1:50:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I think next week, when we talk about it, it will be praising the chaoticness of the carnage, maybe possibly if I wrap my head around understanding it by next Saturday.
1:50:19
[SPEAKER_01]: But next Sunday, we'll go live, what, 2 p.m. Sunday around, probably, and we'll talk all about Wrestle Dream and everything else coming out of the world of wrestling.
1:50:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll look at that time.
1:50:36
[SPEAKER_00]: I know I'm working to next Sunday.
1:50:37
[SPEAKER_00]: So Mike sounds good early one again, but no worries.
1:50:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Either either either one or two next Sunday watch this face.
1:50:44
[SPEAKER_00]: One final thing I wanted to get your thoughts on.
1:50:48
[SPEAKER_00]: When is Necro but you're showing up to be the GM of.
1:50:53
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
1:50:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, should we ask him when he shows up to the man Luchin next month?
1:51:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Has he been advertised?
1:51:03
[SPEAKER_01]: What?
1:51:05
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
1:51:08
[SPEAKER_00]: I can see all this.
1:51:09
[SPEAKER_01]: G.C.W Law Bookham.
1:51:11
[SPEAKER_01]: So I guess someone else has to.
1:51:17
[SPEAKER_01]: I will learn more this this upcoming Thursday.
1:51:21
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if he's wrestling.
1:51:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Did he ever really wrestle this Thursday?
1:51:25
[SPEAKER_01]: He's had that.
1:51:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
1:51:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
1:51:28
[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
1:51:29
[SPEAKER_01]: He's he's got a milk the dark side, right?
1:51:33
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a star again from the dark side episode I him versus loads of Metacose in a handicap match What what
1:51:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Why is he getting a legend steal like what the fuck is he never wrestled for WWE?
1:51:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Did they look at his political views in his Twitter and they were like, you're signed you're hired also
1:51:58
[SPEAKER_00]: You fit, uh, all I can imagine, like, I imagine this has something to do with probably the next video game.
1:52:05
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we had new jacks who's involved, the game will to a go.
1:52:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe that's something and especially, like, I mean, it'll be cool if rather than just a playable character, you know, when you have that story mode where in the past they've had it where you start in the
1:52:24
[SPEAKER_00]: You have to have a match against Necrop Butcher in some dingy fucking bingo hall or something.
1:52:29
[SPEAKER_00]: You imagine that big I get Joe in there too, but yeah.
1:52:32
[SPEAKER_00]: All I can imagine is Nick Khan was a fan of that Dark Side XO guy.
1:52:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't really think like before this year, when were people last talking about Necrop Butcher?
1:52:45
[SPEAKER_00]: And like he did enter the new cycle again with that Dark Side XO and things.
1:52:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm seeing him do a lot more like he's announcing indie dates now.
1:52:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure if he's actually wrestling, but places are advertising him for certain things.
1:53:01
[SPEAKER_01]: And I, a little bizarre, but hey, people want to go and meet these people while they're still alive.
1:53:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I, I, I guess the dark side definitely added people who think people who knew about it and then remember, oh, yeah, I did fuck with that before or people who had no idea and are like, what is this?
1:53:18
[SPEAKER_01]: So,
1:53:20
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess there's interesting.
1:53:21
[SPEAKER_00]: You could last wrestled, he last wrestled two weeks ago.
1:53:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I know he's been back wrestling since this star side.
1:53:26
[SPEAKER_00]: So he's wrestled like literally twice as many matches as Roman Ryan's has wrestled this year.
1:53:35
[SPEAKER_01]: We need Joey Janello versus Necro.
1:53:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't know if we need it, but we do, you know what I mean?
1:53:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:53:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Our friend's demand, Lucha, have announced that he's going to be, like, I wonder if demand book that match.
1:53:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Joey Janello versus Necro butchered.
1:53:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:53:49
[SPEAKER_01]: This upcoming Thursday, in Toronto, Parkdale, Thursday night.
1:53:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Gringo Logo versus Marco Stunt for the premier manned Lucha championship.
1:53:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm very excited about that.
1:54:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Our friends at Demand Lucha always put on a fun time.
1:54:03
[SPEAKER_01]: You will catch us there this Thursday in Toronto.
1:54:07
[SPEAKER_01]: If you're in the Toronto area, please check them out.
1:54:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Wherever you are, support your local indie, even if they bring in Necro butcher.
1:54:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Support your local indie.
1:54:15
[SPEAKER_01]: I see who the the local Sudbury Ontario champion is and uh good.
1:54:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
1:54:22
[SPEAKER_01]: No one's booking him here.
1:54:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess.
1:54:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, isn't NXT in Sudbury the subcoming weekend this week.
1:54:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:54:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
1:54:29
[SPEAKER_00]: We're choosing Kitchener and Subbury.
1:54:31
[SPEAKER_01]: The same night as Demand Lucha in Toronto, NXT is at the Kitchener Auditorium and we're it's the Thursday night wars here.
1:54:39
[SPEAKER_01]: We're choosing Demand Lucha over NXT.
1:54:44
[SPEAKER_01]: They have announced Kevin Owens is going to show up at the Gatno NXT show.
1:54:49
[SPEAKER_01]: I think on Friday or Sunday or something like that so
1:54:51
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a nice little extra bonus there to see him in his area, but there you go.
1:54:58
[SPEAKER_01]: We will talk to you all again, this upcoming week, we have our fly review, 40th anniversary spooky season.
1:55:05
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1:55:05
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1:55:06
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