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- 0:03Speaker 1: Bueno, como esta?
- 0:04Speaker 2: Oh, oh, oh, here's Mike and Bo. You guys are
- 0:07Speaker 2: the most entertaining sports program in the world.
- 0:12Speaker 1: Drop it, Bo. Drop it, baby.
- 0:14Speaker 3: No, no, stop twerking. You and I are a couple eating,
- 0:16Speaker 3: like Lady and the Tramp. You're the lady on the tramp.
- 0:19Speaker 1: Yeah, come on. Come on, baby. I wish I was Boopy.
- 0:23Speaker 1: Boopy McClain, man. That's a great name.
- 0:25Speaker 4: All aboard.
- 0:41Speaker 5: Good Monday morning, Charlotte. Welcome aboard. Here we are again.
- 0:44Speaker 5: Here we are again on the win-loss, win-loss. Actually, it's loss-win,
- 0:49Speaker 5: loss train once again. And this one comes at the
- 0:53Speaker 5: hands of the damn Cleveland Browns of all teams.
- 0:56Speaker 1: We will discuss it.
- 0:58Speaker 5: Do we just forget about last week's win now and
- 1:01Speaker 5: start raging again? What do we blame it on? What
- 1:05Speaker 5: the heck happened to the offense and Bryce Young? Is
- 1:09Speaker 5: it as simple as saying injuries? That feels too excuse-y.
- 1:13Speaker 5: We'll talk about the controversial roughing call as well. We'll
- 1:16Speaker 5: get into all this stuff today here on the Mac
- 1:20Speaker 5: and Bone Show. Injury updates, too, because there's a ton
- 1:23Speaker 5: of them, and we only know so much. Right now,
- 1:25Speaker 5: the JC Horn one does not sound good, but we'll
- 1:29Speaker 5: talk through it here together on the Mac and Bones.
- 1:33Speaker 5: I'm sure we won't take it out on each other
- 1:34Speaker 5: at all. No, we will talk through this together. We
- 1:37Speaker 5: got a college football weekend to recap. Huge win for
- 1:41Speaker 5: Wake Forest. We'll talk about that a bunch. NC State
- 1:45Speaker 5: fans like, do you like that win over App State?
- 1:48Speaker 5: If you're an App State fan, you've got to be
- 1:49Speaker 5: thrilled to be entering conference play. That team showed some
- 1:52Speaker 5: damn fight. And there is just another week and another
- 1:56Speaker 5: mess at South Carolina. And I can tell you this
- 1:59Speaker 5: right now, Bone Man, I will not try to tell
- 2:01Speaker 5: you and Gamecock fans you shouldn't be upset this week.
- 2:05Speaker 1: I will definitely not do that. No, I do. Good morning,
- 2:08Speaker 1: first of all.
- 2:09Speaker 3: Yeah, I think a new low was reached after I
- 2:12Speaker 3: said on Friday for that particular team. I said, hey,
- 2:16Speaker 3: the thing you got to go in there and beat Bama, hey,
- 2:18Speaker 3: that's high living. But can you compete? Can you look
- 2:22Speaker 3: the part? Can you look like you did a couple
- 2:24Speaker 3: years ago? Even if you lose, can you look the part?
- 2:28Speaker 3: And NAMAC went the complete opposite way. And I don't
- 2:30Speaker 3: think I've seen them look that bad in terms of– mistakes, coaching.
- 2:35Speaker 3: We'll talk about it. But that was not exactly what
- 2:38Speaker 3: I was suggesting. Damn near every member of the secondary
- 2:41Speaker 3: needs to be absolutely ridiculed. That was a pathetic secondary performance.
- 2:46Speaker 3: And oh, by the way, Dylan Stewart's now suspended indefinitely
- 2:49Speaker 3: because he acted a fool on the field and then
- 2:51Speaker 3: on the sidelines with his coaches.
- 2:53Speaker 5: So we'll talk about it all today here on the
- 2:55Speaker 5: Mac and Bone Show. We've got other stuff going on.
- 3:00Speaker 4: U.S.
- 3:00Speaker 1: President's Cup team.
- 3:01Speaker 5: They made us wait until the final day. To put
- 3:04Speaker 5: a rally together from three down to beat the internationals.
- 3:09Speaker 5: And Scotty Scheffler just shows how nice of a guy
- 3:12Speaker 5: he is. No doubt about it. And Kyle Larson. It
- 3:16Speaker 5: could be happening, y'all. It could be happening. Gets the win,
- 3:21Speaker 5: his second win in four Chase races. A little drama, too.
- 3:25Speaker 5: A little drama gets passed after leading the whole damn
- 3:28Speaker 5: race by Chase Briscoe and then passes him back.
- 3:32Speaker 1: Charlotte FC with a loss.
- 3:34Speaker 5: We will console ourselves by listening to Willie P screaming
- 3:37Speaker 5: about the referees.
- 3:38Speaker 1: I like it. I enjoy that. Because, Willie P, you
- 3:41Speaker 1: are all of us, brother. That was atrocious. I've got
- 3:44Speaker 1: to be honest.
- 3:44Speaker 3: MLS may have the worst refs in all of sports,
- 3:47Speaker 3: which is a heavy competition. Does that include the WWE refs? No,
- 3:51Speaker 3: they're doing their job. They might be similar. I feel
- 3:54Speaker 3: like they're doing their job.
- 3:55Speaker 5: But anyway, let's talk about what everybody wants to talk about.
- 3:59Speaker 1: I named the episode back like Friends episodes. Hello, Joy. Goodbye, Joy.
- 4:05Speaker 5: Oh, man. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. And listen, they were
- 4:09Speaker 5: all kinds of banged up. There's no doubt about it.
- 4:12Speaker 5: But it's hard not to feel like you should still
- 4:14Speaker 5: find a way to win a football game against the
- 4:16Speaker 5: damn Cleveland Browns. And they did not do it. And
- 4:20Speaker 5: I could not believe how bad the offensive line was,
- 4:23Speaker 5: whether it was the run blocking in the first half.
- 4:26Speaker 5: when we had 10 carries for 18 yards, or whether
- 4:30Speaker 5: it was the pass protection throughout the whole game. Sumer Sports, Bone,
- 4:35Speaker 5: there's all kind of different, you'll hear all kind of
- 4:36Speaker 5: different numbers of pressure percentages we allowed. None of them
- 4:40Speaker 5: are good at all. Sumer Sports has it at 63%
- 4:45Speaker 5: of Bryce's dropbacks he was pressured. That is the highest
- 4:49Speaker 5: pressure number of the season, and it really looked that bad.
- 4:54Speaker 3: Yeah, just could never get it going. Look, we knew
- 4:57Speaker 3: that there was some defensive talent.
- 5:00Speaker 1: On the Browns.
- 5:01Speaker 3: They've been bad for so long that they've amassed a
- 5:04Speaker 3: lot of high-end defensive talent, even without Myles Garrett. But
- 5:08Speaker 3: if you are a team, Mac, that we think has
- 5:10Speaker 3: turned that corner... I wouldn't even say just even a
- 5:15Speaker 3: good offensive team, a consistent offensive team, a team that
- 5:19Speaker 3: is better than they've been, you find a way to
- 5:23Speaker 3: get that done against Cleveland. The game was right there,
- 5:26Speaker 3: and they couldn't do it. So now you're thinking the
- 5:29Speaker 3: Panthers are not a bad football team, but.
- 5:33Speaker 1: Are they turning the corner? Are they good enough?
- 5:36Speaker 3: To compete not only with those teams in the South
- 5:39Speaker 3: that we'll talk about, because it is a bad division,
- 5:42Speaker 3: but we want them to progress further. Are they good
- 5:44Speaker 3: enough to progress further and take on the other teams
- 5:48Speaker 3: that are better than just the teams in the NFC South?
- 5:51Speaker 5: We had three guys, according to PFF, give up six pressures.
- 5:54Speaker 5: Robert Hunt. Monroe Freeling and Rasheed Walker. You look at
- 5:58Speaker 5: our tackle play over the last two weeks. These are
- 6:01Speaker 5: PFF numbers. They're not gospel, right? But it's some sort
- 6:04Speaker 5: of guidance of how people are performing. Rasheed Walker and
- 6:09Speaker 5: Monroe Freeling. Walker has given up 12 pressures. And Monroe
- 6:15Speaker 5: Freeling has given up 10 over the last two weeks.
- 6:18Speaker 5: That is absolutely pathetic. I just just point blank period
- 6:21Speaker 5: is someone that looks at these numbers every week and
- 6:24Speaker 5: obsesses over them. That is absolutely horrible for a two
- 6:28Speaker 5: game span. And to me, that was the biggest part
- 6:32Speaker 5: of the game.
- 6:33Speaker 1: Right there.
- 6:34Speaker 5: And listen, Mason Graham's been having a great start to
- 6:36Speaker 5: the season. And it was a couple of twists and
- 6:40Speaker 5: stunts that got him his two sacks where he was
- 6:42Speaker 5: being passed off. And either Robert Hunt or Luke Fortner
- 6:45Speaker 5: in each case did not pick him up. But other
- 6:49Speaker 5: than that, Jared Verst, Jared Verst is a good player.
- 6:51Speaker 5: Jared Verst had one pressure in the first two games
- 6:53Speaker 5: of the season. Had like six yesterday. Was absolutely destroying
- 6:58Speaker 5: Rasheed Walker. That offensive line was absolutely terrible. I think
- 7:03Speaker 5: our coaching staff was slow to adjust to the pressure that.
- 7:06Speaker 1: We were getting.
- 7:07Speaker 5: And they finally adjusted Bone on that touchdown drive when
- 7:10Speaker 5: they started moving Bryce.
- 7:12Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
- 7:12Speaker 5: Get them away from the pressure. It's like, oh, look
- 7:14Speaker 5: at this. Bryce is dealing because you're getting them outside.
- 7:17Speaker 5: You're getting away from the pressure. And then we get
- 7:19Speaker 5: the ball back after giving up that touchdown and giving
- 7:22Speaker 5: up the lead for the second time in the fourth
- 7:25Speaker 5: quarter of this game. And we don't move Bryce at all.
- 7:29Speaker 1: He's just a.
- 7:30Speaker 5: Sitting duck back there in the pocket. So I don't
- 7:32Speaker 5: really understand that either. There's, there's obviously you lose a
- 7:36Speaker 5: game like this and it was ugly as hell, but
- 7:38Speaker 5: you know how badly I would have taken an ugly win.
- 7:42Speaker 5: You know how much I would have praised their fight
- 7:44Speaker 5: resolve and you're injured and you had to figure it out.
- 7:47Speaker 5: And Bryce was battling through an injury himself. And I
- 7:50Speaker 5: would have praised the crap out of it.
- 7:52Speaker 3: It would have been considered a really gutty win, and
- 7:54Speaker 3: it would have shown that they can win in different ways.
- 7:57Speaker 3: Last week, the offense, although the defense with Devin Lloyd,
- 8:00Speaker 3: of course, was great, but it would have shown that
- 8:03Speaker 3: they can win when the offense is rolling, and they
- 8:06Speaker 3: can win an ugly game. Winning in different ways is important. But,
- 8:10Speaker 3: of course, that's storyline now out the window because, check
- 8:12Speaker 3: my notes here, they did not win the game yesterday.
- 8:15Speaker 1: No. By the way, Icky might get a contract extension
- 8:18Speaker 1: by not playing this year. Yeah.
- 8:20Speaker 3: We said in the preseason, hey, they're not getting the
- 8:23Speaker 3: run going. Is that because Icky's not in there? Now
- 8:26Speaker 3: I'm watching the regular season wondering how much of this
- 8:29Speaker 3: run game, not only the commitment to it, but how
- 8:32Speaker 3: much of them is Icky in the run game right now.
- 8:33Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 8:34Speaker 5: I mean, they were trying to run against a team
- 8:35Speaker 5: that came in 31st in the league in yards per
- 8:38Speaker 5: carry allowed. um they of course are not the worst
- 8:41Speaker 5: run defense that would be us even after yesterday yesterday
- 8:44Speaker 5: was our best run defense before into the season and
- 8:48Speaker 5: it still felt like cleveland's struggling run game did too
- 8:51Speaker 5: much on us deshaun watson looked like caleb williams too
- 8:55Speaker 5: much like the defense did a lot of good things
- 8:57Speaker 5: there was a five series stretch in the middle of
- 9:00Speaker 5: this game bone where we were where our defense allowed
- 9:03Speaker 5: the offense three points by three points to get back
- 9:07Speaker 5: in the there was a five series stretch bone where
- 9:10Speaker 5: the Browns had two yards total. So, I mean, like,
- 9:13Speaker 5: and by the way, the 10 points that were given
- 9:15Speaker 5: up in the first half were because of short fields.
- 9:18Speaker 5: Cause we went for it on fourth down and didn't
- 9:21Speaker 5: convert it. And I don't want to criticize it too much.
- 9:24Speaker 5: I try to not criticize canal is too much because
- 9:28Speaker 5: of all the fourth down success last year. I don't know, bro,
- 9:32Speaker 5: about on your own 40 yard line. In a 3-0
- 9:35Speaker 5: game where your defense is playing pretty well and the feeling,
- 9:39Speaker 5: I think everybody should have got the feeling at that
- 9:41Speaker 5: point in the game, Bo, when we went for it
- 9:44Speaker 5: in the second quarter from our own 40. I think
- 9:46Speaker 5: everybody should have probably got the feeling, oh, this is
- 9:48Speaker 5: an ugly defensive grind them out game where points are
- 9:52Speaker 5: at a premium and field positions at a premium. I
- 9:56Speaker 5: know hindsight's 2020, but I was thinking this when we
- 9:59Speaker 5: did it, are we sure this is a good idea?
- 10:01Speaker 5: Because if not, you give them the ball at the
- 10:03Speaker 5: freaking 40 when field position and points are gold. How
- 10:08Speaker 5: about you punt it all the way down to the
- 10:09Speaker 5: other end, play defense. Are they driving the entire field? Um,
- 10:13Speaker 5: so cause it gives, it's just, that was killer dude.
- 10:16Speaker 3: Cause what it does is I wouldn't say it's panicking
- 10:19Speaker 3: because there are times when teams— It did feel panicky.
- 10:21Speaker 1: It felt like our great offense ain't getting it going.
- 10:25Speaker 3: Not only is it panicky, but it also, when you
- 10:27Speaker 3: don't get it, it gives the other team life. It
- 10:30Speaker 3: gives them hope. The stadium all of a sudden starts
- 10:32Speaker 3: to believe, oh, they're in panic mode. We got a
- 10:36Speaker 3: chance today. And this is the NFL. There's not much difference, honestly,
- 10:40Speaker 3: between a lot of these teams. And when you start
- 10:42Speaker 3: to give a team hope like that, That's trouble, and
- 10:44Speaker 3: that's what they ran into yesterday.
- 10:46Speaker 5: You gave them hope, and you gave them seven points,
- 10:47Speaker 5: which in that game is mammoth. At that point, I
- 10:51Speaker 5: thought everybody should be able to feel like there ain't
- 10:53Speaker 5: many points being scored. By the way, Bone, if we
- 10:56Speaker 5: convert that to our own 40, the way our offense
- 10:59Speaker 5: was struggling, they're guaranteed we're getting down there in scoring range.
- 11:02Speaker 5: It's just like the risk-reward. Again, I ain't going to
- 11:05Speaker 5: kill Dave too much about going forward on fourth down,
- 11:07Speaker 5: but in a game like that, you've got to read
- 11:09Speaker 5: the game. What type of game it is. And are
- 11:11Speaker 5: we better off punting, playing defense, winning the field? We
- 11:14Speaker 5: did not win the field position battle yesterday and things
- 11:17Speaker 5: like that are part of it. Matter of fact, those
- 11:19Speaker 5: two failures on fourth down the first half are probably
- 11:21Speaker 5: why we lost the field position battle. So that's frustrating
- 11:25Speaker 5: to me too. I think Dave's got to get the
- 11:26Speaker 5: business on that. And there's just, there's so much blame
- 11:30Speaker 5: to go around. Bryce was certainly not at his best,
- 11:34Speaker 5: but it's hard to, like, it does feel like the
- 11:36Speaker 5: pressure got to him, Bone, even when like he wasn't
- 11:41Speaker 5: fully pressured, if that makes any sense. Like I'm thinking
- 11:44Speaker 5: of the throw on third down and around the red
- 11:48Speaker 5: zone in the second half where he escapes. Of course
- 11:51Speaker 5: he was pressured, but he escapes to the left. He
- 11:53Speaker 5: has John Metchie wide to F open. Like that, that's just,
- 11:56Speaker 5: that's a layup and he throws it low and misses them. Like,
- 12:00Speaker 5: it just feels like whether he was sped up on
- 12:02Speaker 5: or just kind of.
- 12:03Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
- 12:04Speaker 5: Bothered a little bit by the pressure, but I've seen many,
- 12:07Speaker 5: I've seen, you know, excellent quarterbacks bothered by pressure in
- 12:12Speaker 5: a game like that when it's that intense.
- 12:14Speaker 1: Like, ridiculous, man.
- 12:16Speaker 3: I think he was bothered by the pressure. I also
- 12:17Speaker 3: don't think he was 100% to move like Bryce likes
- 12:21Speaker 3: to move at times. I think that was the problem.
- 12:24Speaker 3: He still moved good. I thought we were winning on
- 12:26Speaker 3: that last possession. We stopped them, Mac. They went for
- 12:29Speaker 3: it on fourth down. They got stopped. I thought, oh, man,
- 12:32Speaker 3: this is where Bryce is going to thrive. I thought
- 12:34Speaker 3: they're going to go down here and they're going to
- 12:37Speaker 3: pull this thing out. And then the way the offensive
- 12:41Speaker 3: line performed, it was one of those drives you could
- 12:42Speaker 3: tell right away, uh-oh, there's not enough time, and this
- 12:45Speaker 3: isn't going anywhere. And then Bryce's last throw to Waller,
- 12:48Speaker 3: which was way shorter than it needed to be because
- 12:50Speaker 3: he had.
- 12:51Speaker 1: To get rid of the ball.
- 12:51Speaker 3: But I thought we had a chance until the first
- 12:54Speaker 3: play of that drive, and I realized, uh-oh, this isn't going.
- 12:57Speaker 1: You can often tell.
- 12:58Speaker 3: Early in those drives if you're going to be able
- 13:00Speaker 3: to do something or not, and I knew right away, uh-oh,
- 13:02Speaker 3: this is not ending well.
- 13:04Speaker 5: I thought the drive where we were going to win
- 13:05Speaker 5: it is the one before that. Minute 48, all three timeouts.
- 13:11Speaker 5: Let's go, baby. We just drove down. We just seem
- 13:13Speaker 5: to have figured their defense out. And like I said,
- 13:16Speaker 5: in that drive, we did not move Bryce at all
- 13:18Speaker 5: when that's what works so successfully on the first touchdown
- 13:21Speaker 5: drive of the game before that. So I didn't really
- 13:23Speaker 5: understand that. I don't know if like your play action boots,
- 13:26Speaker 5: you felt like wouldn't work because they didn't think you
- 13:28Speaker 5: were going to run the ball, but we did still
- 13:29Speaker 5: have three timeouts, 148. That's a lot of time. That
- 13:32Speaker 5: drive went nowhere bone. That drive went four and out.
- 13:35Speaker 5: That's the one where I thought, dude, we going to
- 13:37Speaker 5: get them. And we didn't, I thought the D you know,
- 13:41Speaker 5: I guess we didn't know the ball was intercepted because
- 13:44Speaker 5: the Fox crew had no freaking idea until four minutes later.
- 13:48Speaker 5: I guess, was it better that we didn't know it
- 13:51Speaker 5: was intercepted? Will Lee made a great play on Deshaun
- 13:55Speaker 5: on what ended up being the roughing on Okereke.
- 13:59Speaker 1: Tipped the ball. Caleb Evans picks it off.
- 14:02Speaker 5: And we didn't even know it was picked off because
- 14:04Speaker 5: Fox didn't tell us for four minutes later.
- 14:07Speaker 1: Great play by Evans also, who got no mention of
- 14:09Speaker 1: his play either.
- 14:09Speaker 5: So now the penalty bone, now the penalty gated an
- 14:13Speaker 5: interception that might have, you know, we would have had
- 14:15Speaker 5: to get a first down, but might have come close
- 14:18Speaker 5: to sealing that game for us.
- 14:19Speaker 3: And I know people are mad. I just, I have
- 14:22Speaker 3: to be honest, man.
- 14:23Speaker 5: I don't have it in me to rage about that
- 14:25Speaker 5: call because of the stupid way football works now. And
- 14:28Speaker 5: I shouldn't say stupid. You're trying to protect football. You know,
- 14:32Speaker 5: they're trying to protect the brains of these quarterbacks. But
- 14:35Speaker 5: I mean, not all contact to the face is created equal.
- 14:40Speaker 5: And my man went straight Neymar. I mean, Deshaun Watson.
- 14:43Speaker 5: And again, if my quarterback flopped to get a call
- 14:46Speaker 5: to wins the game, I take it, baby.
- 14:49Speaker 1: I'd take it. I'd praise the hell out of him.
- 14:50Speaker 3: But it's annoying when you're on the other side because
- 14:52Speaker 3: he sold that thing big time. That's two games where
- 14:56Speaker 3: roughing the passer penalties and the two losses have greatly
- 14:59Speaker 3: impacted the outcome of the game. The one with Derrick
- 15:01Speaker 3: Brown changed a lot of that for the Bears game.
- 15:05Speaker 3: And this one, look, man, these guys, it's hard to
- 15:08Speaker 3: stop yourself. We're going to have to figure out a way.
- 15:11Speaker 3: to stop that, especially the guys like Derrick Brown and
- 15:14Speaker 3: Jalen Phillips.
- 15:15Speaker 1: Look, man.
- 15:16Speaker 3: This was Okereke that got called.
- 15:18Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it was Okereke.
- 15:18Speaker 3: Although Phillips might have tapped him with the hand, too.
- 15:21Speaker 3: Phillips got him in the face. Okereke got him up
- 15:23Speaker 3: in the face with his shoulder. I understand it's very
- 15:25Speaker 3: difficult and it's refereed weird. But we've got to figure
- 15:28Speaker 3: out a way to maybe not hit the quarterback in
- 15:30Speaker 3: those spots.
- 15:31Speaker 5: It's almost like you've got to be cognizant of it.
- 15:35Speaker 5: And it sucks because they did such a good job
- 15:36Speaker 5: on that play, too. Because Deshaun, who escaped too much,
- 15:39Speaker 5: he escaped on that same drive on a third and three.
- 15:42Speaker 5: But if you watch it, Phillips rushes inside, does an
- 15:46Speaker 5: amazing job, Bone, beating him outside there. And Okereke does
- 15:51Speaker 5: a great job closing and affecting the pass. But it's
- 15:54Speaker 5: just like you got to find a way in 2026
- 15:58Speaker 5: with this version of the NFL, for better or worse,
- 16:01Speaker 5: you got to find a way to your point to
- 16:03Speaker 5: stay off them.
- 16:04Speaker 1: I will get to the good news, though, Bone.
- 16:06Speaker 5: There was good news later in the day because I
- 16:09Speaker 5: wasn't feeling the NFL right after we lost that game. Like,
- 16:13Speaker 5: I was just, the Panthers, you've said it before, too.
- 16:16Speaker 5: The Panthers ruin 4 o'clock games for me sometimes when
- 16:20Speaker 5: we freaking lose.
- 16:21Speaker 3: Or sometimes when they're playing it for. Once I realize, Bone,
- 16:26Speaker 3: hold on now. We might get a double dip of
- 16:29Speaker 3: losses here. And sure enough, the Saints blow an 11-point
- 16:33Speaker 3: lead in the second half.
- 16:34Speaker 1: They were being crowned on Twitter.
- 16:36Speaker 5: I mean, Tyler Shuck and the Saints up 11 over
- 16:39Speaker 5: the Raiders and being crowned. And it was killing me.
- 16:42Speaker 5: And they blow that lead three turnovers in the fourth quarter.
- 16:45Speaker 5: And the Raiders are 3-0, which is amazing in its
- 16:48Speaker 5: own right. But the key for us is the Saints lost.
- 16:51Speaker 5: And then you had the Bucs not only losing bone
- 16:54Speaker 5: after giving up a gazillion sacks to Brian Flores, who
- 16:57Speaker 5: blitzes about 98% of the time.
- 17:00Speaker 1: In Minnesota. Minnesota's 3-0, too.
- 17:03Speaker 5: But the Bucs lose that game, and Baker Mayfield left
- 17:06Speaker 5: it with a thumb injury.
- 17:08Speaker 1: He was screaming on the ground, man. He was, man.
- 17:10Speaker 5: You could tell he was in pain. And they called it,
- 17:13Speaker 5: Bowles called it a dislocated thumb, but they're doing an
- 17:15Speaker 5: MRI today.
- 17:16Speaker 1: So we'll see, man. We'll see what's up. But that's
- 17:18Speaker 1: his throwing hand thumb, too.
- 17:20Speaker 3: Four o'clock NFC South losses, followed by America's team losing
- 17:25Speaker 3: in Brazil.
- 17:26Speaker 1: Oh, that was fun, too. That gave us a lot of...
- 17:29Speaker 1: A lot of late afternoon joy. That was fun.
- 17:31Speaker 5: A little afternoon delight. The way the Cowboys lost too
- 17:34Speaker 5: was hilarious. Seven seconds left in a game they just tied.
- 17:38Speaker 5: First of all, they couldn't score a touchdown to take
- 17:40Speaker 5: the lead. Then they kick a field goal with seven
- 17:43Speaker 5: seconds left to tie it. The Ravens heave a pass
- 17:46Speaker 5: down the field to Flowers. He catches it. They're able
- 17:51Speaker 5: to stop the clock. Kick the field goal from 56
- 17:56Speaker 5: freaking yards and to beat the Cowboys.
- 17:59Speaker 1: God, that was funny. That really was. I don't know
- 18:02Speaker 1: what happened to my Dallas Cowboys down there in Brazil.
- 18:06Speaker 3: We are not Brazil's team. We are America's team. Oh,
- 18:09Speaker 3: my God. So we're tied for first. We're tied for
- 18:14Speaker 3: first with the Saints and the Falcons.
- 18:15Speaker 1: Don't look down.
- 18:16Speaker 3: The Falcons are the first place tied. And the Sunday
- 18:18Speaker 3: night game was good. Bucks dead last, 0-3. The Sunday
- 18:21Speaker 3: night game was great last night.
- 18:22Speaker 1: Rams-Broncos. You made it up for that all day? Yeah,
- 18:24Speaker 1: I watched.
- 18:25Speaker 3: That was an unbelievable finish in that game.
- 18:26Speaker 1: My gracious.
- 18:27Speaker 5: I saw what happened at the— Excuse my language. I
- 18:29Speaker 5: saw what happened at the— I saw– Bone is corny.
- 18:35Speaker 5: I'm telling you, Bone, you're the dad joker without the kids, man.
- 18:41Speaker 5: You are born to be a dad joker. But anyway,
- 18:44Speaker 5: all right, let me get to the game because I
- 18:46Speaker 5: fell asleep, Bone. First of all, 16-0 Rams at the half.
- 18:50Speaker 5: Broncos come back with two touchdowns, two two-point conversions tied
- 18:53Speaker 5: at 16. Rams take a 19-16 lead with about eight
- 18:57Speaker 5: minutes left. I fall asleep at this point. I wake
- 19:01Speaker 5: up and they're doing the post game show and the
- 19:03Speaker 5: score is 30 to 26. I'm like, how did that
- 19:06Speaker 5: much stuff happen in the fourth quarter bone?
- 19:09Speaker 1: Take it away.
- 19:10Speaker 3: I mean, the, the Rams had a chance at the
- 19:12Speaker 3: end through an INT into the end zone that would
- 19:16Speaker 3: have won the game.
- 19:17Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 19:17Speaker 3: It's a, you talk about the tale of two halves there,
- 19:20Speaker 3: 30 points by Denver after halftime to win 30 to
- 19:23Speaker 3: 26 Rams now fall to.
- 19:27Speaker 1: To one and.
- 19:28Speaker 3: Two on the season so that's a little bit interesting
- 19:30Speaker 3: although they do have help on the way miles garrett
- 19:32Speaker 3: down the line and of course puka is not in
- 19:35Speaker 3: there davante adams davante adams back was torching sirtan last
- 19:40Speaker 3: night you don't often see that i had to see
- 19:42Speaker 3: his final numbers Devontae Adams had 137 yards last night.
- 19:44Speaker 3: He's been balling without moving. And a lot of them
- 19:47Speaker 3: were on Sertan, which is crazy to think about. But, yeah,
- 19:51Speaker 3: Denver 2-1 now. But the finish of that game was
- 19:55Speaker 3: the last two Sunday night games, Chiefs-Colts and Denver and
- 19:59Speaker 3: the Rams. A lot of times I'll fall asleep during
- 20:01Speaker 3: those games. I've been awake for those. Those have been
- 20:03Speaker 3: some good football games that night.
- 20:04Speaker 1: Great games. But when that Sunday night— The Panthers and
- 20:08Speaker 1: the Lions. Oh, yeah. Aren't we excited?
- 20:10Speaker 5: I feel the excitement in Charlotte right now, Bone. Who
- 20:13Speaker 5: the heck's going to play? Who the hell could play
- 20:16Speaker 5: in the game? And are we excited? Listen, the game
- 20:20Speaker 5: was amazing. There was a Matthew Stafford pick six by
- 20:22Speaker 5: Hufanga in there.
- 20:24Speaker 1: Who had the game?
- 20:25Speaker 5: Who had the game ceiling pick two. Like, it was
- 20:27Speaker 5: back and forth, but Daddy was snoozing. When Daddy's tired
- 20:30Speaker 5: at 52, Daddy is tired at 52, Bonesy.
- 20:34Speaker 1: All right? I'm 52. I'm an old, decrepit man. Thank you.
- 20:40Speaker 1: Thank you. But it was a damn thriller.
- 20:42Speaker 3: When we come back, college football weekend recap. A bad
- 20:46Speaker 3: loss and plenty of drama for the Gamecocks. A huge
- 20:50Speaker 3: program win for Wake Forest. Clemson State and Duke get
- 20:54Speaker 3: W's as well. And the Charlotte offense was downright offensive.
- 20:58Speaker 3: Sports Radio 92.7.
- 21:39Speaker 2: Again, we're a third of the way through the football
- 21:42Speaker 2: season right now, and we were here two years ago,
- 21:46Speaker 2: and we were 3-3 after this game.
- 21:48Speaker 1: We responded the right way.
- 21:49Speaker 2: I have zero doubt that this team, now that we're 2-2,
- 21:53Speaker 2: will respond the right way. I said it, I think,
- 21:56Speaker 2: last week to you guys, how we respond, and we'll
- 21:59Speaker 2: define what this team is about. Double down on that,
- 22:03Speaker 2: how we respond tonight. We'll certainly define what this team
- 22:06Speaker 2: in this 2026 season.
- 22:09Speaker 1: Is about.
- 22:09Speaker 2: But, you know, we've got a big one next Saturday night,
- 22:12Speaker 2: or next Saturday afternoon, back in Columbia against a really,
- 22:16Speaker 2: really good, you know, Kentucky team.
- 22:17Speaker 1: And it won't get easier in this league. We know that.
- 22:22Speaker 2: And we've got a good football team. We've got good coaches.
- 22:25Speaker 2: We've got good players. We've just got to get a
- 22:28Speaker 2: lot better this week.
- 22:29Speaker 1: Let's go, baby. You got it, baby.
- 22:31Speaker 7: Rally them.
- 22:32Speaker 1: There you go.
- 22:33Speaker 5: That's Shane Beamer Saturday night after the route loss to Alabama,
- 22:39Speaker 5: trying to rally the troops. He has zero doubt that
- 22:43Speaker 5: they will have a response, a good response, Boney, against
- 22:46Speaker 5: Kentucky next week. That has to be the last thing, Bone,
- 22:51Speaker 5: that you and Gamecock fans want to hear. Is him
- 22:55Speaker 5: rallying the troops for the umpteenth time. You can only
- 22:58Speaker 5: go to the well with that so many times. And
- 23:01Speaker 5: he has gone to that well, Mac, more than Timmy
- 23:03Speaker 5: went to the well to go find Lassie back in
- 23:05Speaker 5: the day. Like repeatedly, like every single week he goes
- 23:08Speaker 5: to the same well. No one wants to hear it.
- 23:11Speaker 5: How about show us? Stop telling us the team will
- 23:15Speaker 5: be better and actually get the team better. Because it's
- 23:18Speaker 5: one thing if they actually performed at a high level
- 23:21Speaker 5: and lost a competitive game.
- 23:22Speaker 1: The other day.
- 23:23Speaker 3: Why are you trying to rally the troops after we
- 23:25Speaker 3: saw one of the most disorganized, poorly coached efforts, poorly
- 23:29Speaker 3: played games we've seen in a very long time?
- 23:32Speaker 1: It's one thing to go in there and lose.
- 23:34Speaker 3: There's no shame, Mac, for South Carolina to lose because
- 23:37Speaker 3: there's going to be a lot of losses on that
- 23:39Speaker 3: schedule when you're South Carolina. It's just a fact of
- 23:42Speaker 3: the matter. But when you're not competitive and you're embarrassing
- 23:46Speaker 3: and things are happening that's either self-inflicted or just controllable
- 23:51Speaker 3: things that you have lost control of, that's when I
- 23:54Speaker 3: have a problem with it right there.
- 23:55Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's.
- 23:56Speaker 5: And for him to like think anybody wants to hear,
- 23:59Speaker 5: I have zero doubt we're going to respond.
- 24:01Speaker 1: Really?
- 24:02Speaker 5: Like you responded tonight. Like that would be a great
- 24:04Speaker 5: follow up question. I don't know if he was asked
- 24:06Speaker 5: to follow up on that. But coach, how do you
- 24:08Speaker 5: have zero doubt you respond next week? Because this was
- 24:10Speaker 5: a pathetic response to last week's 16 point blown lead.
- 24:14Speaker 1: And you're right. Do you think the players want to
- 24:16Speaker 1: hear it anymore?
- 24:16Speaker 5: The fans definitely don't want to hear it anymore. And
- 24:19Speaker 5: I know you were telling me that Pete Nakos from
- 24:22Speaker 5: On3 was reporting that it could be done for Beamer
- 24:26Speaker 5: if they lose to Kentucky next week. And then you
- 24:29Speaker 5: throw in, Bone, the Dylan Stewart suspension after he gets
- 24:35Speaker 5: multiple penalties. One was a roughing. That's in the flow
- 24:37Speaker 5: of the game. The other one, you're punching a dude
- 24:39Speaker 5: after the play. But I think everybody agrees that... It's
- 24:43Speaker 5: about the way he reacted to trying to be coached
- 24:47Speaker 5: that was the biggest problem, and I'm sure that's why
- 24:49Speaker 5: he was suspended. I mean, not only was this dude
- 24:52Speaker 5: ignoring Beamer and giving flack back to Beamer when Beamer's
- 24:56Speaker 5: yelling at him, then ignoring him, but there's an assistant
- 24:59Speaker 5: coach that is trying to get him out of the
- 25:01Speaker 5: game to sub someone back in.
- 25:03Speaker 1: He is refusing to come out of the game, dude.
- 25:05Speaker 3: Mack, the drama to play count. For Dylan Stewart, it's incredible.
- 25:10Speaker 3: Think about how much drama he caused. Ford, the player
- 25:15Speaker 3: for Bama, says he got punched three times in the
- 25:17Speaker 3: game by Dylan Stewart. He wouldn't come out of the game.
- 25:20Speaker 3: He's now suspended. Mack, he was on a pitch count
- 25:23Speaker 3: of 12 during the game. He was only playing 12 plays.
- 25:27Speaker 3: Has a guy, Mack, ever caused more damage in a
- 25:30Speaker 3: 12-play pitch count than Dylan Stewart did? Not really against
- 25:33Speaker 3: the other team. Besides throwing punches in there. My dad said,
- 25:36Speaker 3: why does Beamer always look so disheveled and like out
- 25:40Speaker 3: of sorts on the sidelines here's what my dad compared
- 25:42Speaker 3: him to mac he looks like your neighbor that can't
- 25:45Speaker 3: ever get his lawnmower started i've been there before man
- 25:49Speaker 3: it gets really frustrated his hands on his hips he's
- 25:51Speaker 3: looking up like shane beamer back is that neighbor that
- 25:54Speaker 3: can't get his lawnmower going i know man he is
- 25:57Speaker 3: he doesn't seem to have an answer stuff he's looking
- 25:59Speaker 3: around for help and you talk about how little stewart
- 26:01Speaker 3: has given you lenora seller's who threw a brutal pick
- 26:05Speaker 3: six for a third-year starting quarterback just to be completely
- 26:08Speaker 3: duped by a defensive player who jumped out there right
- 26:12Speaker 3: into the path of the throw.
- 26:13Speaker 1: Think about all the money. That was one of Sellers'
- 26:15Speaker 1: better throws this year. Think about hitting right in the numbers.
- 26:17Speaker 5: Think about all the money that y'all spent on Stewart
- 26:20Speaker 5: and Sellers and your return you're getting. Hell, you might
- 26:23Speaker 5: have been better off just letting them both walk and
- 26:25Speaker 5: spending that money elsewhere. And again, they were moving the ball.
- 26:29Speaker 3: To start the game. They moved the ball. You thought, oh, OK, well,
- 26:32Speaker 3: maybe this is one of those competitive outings. And then
- 26:35Speaker 3: it just, I mean, the wheels to the cockaboos just
- 26:40Speaker 3: completely fell off.
- 26:41Speaker 1: Dude, you're right.
- 26:42Speaker 5: It was not like the coverage in the secondary, by
- 26:45Speaker 5: the way, was a complete abomination. Guys getting absolutely abused.
- 26:50Speaker 5: Keelan Russell just hitting them deep over and over and
- 26:52Speaker 5: over again. And then there was the pick six.
- 26:54Speaker 1: But you're right.
- 26:55Speaker 5: It started when they had two really good drives and
- 26:59Speaker 5: missed a field goal on the first one. And then
- 27:01Speaker 5: they try to get cutesy on the fourth and one.
- 27:04Speaker 5: They did the thing where Sellers goes. It looks like
- 27:07Speaker 5: he walks over from under center or from where he's
- 27:10Speaker 5: set up, asking the coaches something. And tight end tries
- 27:14Speaker 5: to sneak in.
- 27:14Speaker 6: There, Boat.
- 27:16Speaker 1: And the tight end gets stuffed.
- 27:18Speaker 5: It's like, maybe you should have just snuck it with
- 27:21Speaker 5: your 235-pound quarterback, maybe.
- 27:23Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Maybe you shouldn't have brought
- 27:25Speaker 1: someone else in there. God, man. It was ugly. And
- 27:28Speaker 1: you're right.
- 27:29Speaker 5: Beamer has that dazed look on his face.
- 27:32Speaker 1: And it's just... It's.
- 27:34Speaker 3: $ 28 million now if they get rid of Shane Beamer.
- 27:38Speaker 3: Buyout is now $ 28 million. Excuse me. It's, yeah, $ 28
- 27:42Speaker 3: million now if they wait until December... It's $ 22 million.
- 27:46Speaker 1: It's really.
- 27:47Speaker 3: I mean, it's $ 6 million in the buyout world, all
- 27:50Speaker 3: that much. I don't know if that means anything.
- 27:51Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess not. It's not that big
- 27:54Speaker 1: of a difference. No, and that's pretty low.
- 27:56Speaker 5: I know this sounds crazy, that $ 22, $ 28 million to
- 28:00Speaker 5: fire a coach is low, but y'all know what I'm
- 28:02Speaker 5: talking about, right? Dabo's up there at $ 57, $ 60 million.
- 28:06Speaker 5: Mike Norvell's at $ 51 million. It's not as low as
- 28:10Speaker 5: Doran or Belichick, who would cost after the season $ 10 million,
- 28:13Speaker 5: but it's more doable than those others. And then that
- 28:16Speaker 5: insult to injury, Little old damn Clemson. Little old damn
- 28:20Speaker 5: Clemson has found something here, man.
- 28:23Speaker 1: Little old Clemson.
- 28:25Speaker 5: It wasn't the prettiest win in the world, Bone, against Cal,
- 28:28Speaker 5: but they got it done on Friday night, a game
- 28:31Speaker 5: that now feels like it was played two years ago, Bone.
- 28:33Speaker 5: We've watched so much football since then. But credit to
- 28:37Speaker 5: the Clemson Tigers for getting it done, getting that dub
- 28:40Speaker 5: out there. This defense has been ugly statistically through the
- 28:45Speaker 5: first three weeks.
- 28:46Speaker 1: They did a hell of a job. on JKS. They did.
- 28:50Speaker 5: I mean, just an amazing job defensively, and they're starting
- 28:53Speaker 5: to get the running game going now.
- 28:56Speaker 3: That was an impressive showing to go on the road
- 29:01Speaker 3: on a short week after the big home win.
- 29:04Speaker 1: That's not easy to do.
- 29:06Speaker 3: Sometimes in college football, the toughest thing is to get
- 29:10Speaker 3: your team back ready to go on the road again
- 29:13Speaker 3: and play. Like, look at not the same caliber of opponent, right?
- 29:17Speaker 3: But that's why I thought Ole Miss was in trouble
- 29:19Speaker 3: last week. Not that Ole Miss can't beat Florida a
- 29:22Speaker 3: lot of times they play, but I thought situationally... Yeah,
- 29:25Speaker 3: you called that. You called that blowout. That was a
- 29:27Speaker 3: tough spot for Ole Miss. I thought that was a
- 29:29Speaker 3: tough spot for Clemson, and it turns out they overcame it.
- 29:32Speaker 3: That's a very mature win, I thought, for Clemson on
- 29:35Speaker 3: Friday night. And again, they got Miami this week. They
- 29:38Speaker 3: could get Shalama-bammed.
- 29:39Speaker 1: There's no... what I mean?
- 29:40Speaker 5: There's no doubt about it. Miami is not fully healthy,
- 29:44Speaker 5: but they could get Shalama banned. But this Clemson team,
- 29:46Speaker 5: I think we meet just as guilty. We're kind of
- 29:50Speaker 5: writing them off. Oh, geez. It's going to be a
- 29:52Speaker 5: long season. Look at the resolve they showed in the
- 29:54Speaker 5: second half against Carolina. Look what they did against Cal
- 29:57Speaker 5: on the road. 10.30 Eastern time start. Those games aren't easy. So,
- 30:02Speaker 5: you know, the staff's doing a little coaching. Give them
- 30:05Speaker 5: some credit for that.
- 30:06Speaker 1: I know it took a little bit of an adjustment.
- 30:07Speaker 3: Have you been into the Friday night college football? I've
- 30:11Speaker 3: kind of adapted to it. I kind of like the
- 30:15Speaker 3: way it is. I kind of like the Friday night games. Now,
- 30:17Speaker 3: this week... You mentioned it on Friday. We got Pittsburgh
- 30:21Speaker 3: at Virginia Tech on Friday night. So a huge game
- 30:24Speaker 3: in the ACC.
- 30:25Speaker 5: And then I get to watch Penn State lose on
- 30:27Speaker 5: Friday night for the second time in six days.
- 30:29Speaker 1: I didn't want to have to say that.
- 30:31Speaker 5: After blowing a 17-point lead to Wisconsin, that crap-ass quarterback.
- 30:36Speaker 1: I wasn't going to.
- 30:37Speaker 3: I wasn't.
- 30:37Speaker 1: Trying to necessarily go there, but I think we just
- 30:40Speaker 1: went there. I can't help it, man. That was infuriating.
- 30:44Speaker 5: That's right up there with the Panthers loss. All right,
- 30:47Speaker 5: so Wake deserves love today, Bone.
- 30:49Speaker 1: Hell yeah.
- 30:49Speaker 3: When we do Pump to Piss, I know Wake, I
- 30:52Speaker 3: know you aren't the biggest fan base in the dang state,
- 30:55Speaker 3: but I hope every damn 8 o'clocker when we do
- 30:57Speaker 3: that topic, Bone, chimes in because the pride you should
- 31:00Speaker 3: have with your program, And everyone, stop trying to steal
- 31:05Speaker 3: Jake Dickard, all right? South Carolina fans, stop it. Flounder,
- 31:08Speaker 3: I saw y'all on Twitter trying to get Dickard to
- 31:10Speaker 3: North Carolina.
- 31:12Speaker 1: Wink fans, have their moment, all right?
- 31:14Speaker 3: And plus, I need to see what his buyout looks
- 31:17Speaker 3: like for South Carolina here.
- 31:18Speaker 1: I need to see what's going on with this guy.
- 31:20Speaker 1: What a coach. I love this dude.
- 31:22Speaker 5: His energy and passion, the emotion he showed about his
- 31:25Speaker 5: wife losing her dad and having to be home alone
- 31:28Speaker 5: while he was coaching a game.
- 31:30Speaker 1: I mean, I just love this guy.
- 31:31Speaker 5: And there is no doubt, Moen, you could totally see
- 31:34Speaker 5: why players play for that dude. And I'm sorry to
- 31:37Speaker 5: do this, Finney, y'all had a bye week, but how
- 31:39Speaker 5: evident is it? How much better coach Wake Forest is
- 31:42Speaker 5: than North Carolina when you watch Gio Lopez? The boobs
- 31:47Speaker 5: at North Carolina last year tried to fit him into
- 31:50Speaker 5: a damn pro system that brought out the worst in him.
- 31:52Speaker 4: And you mean that literally like Belichick's physique?
- 31:54Speaker 1: Exactly.
- 31:56Speaker 5: And they're better offensively now with Petrino. I can't imagine
- 31:58Speaker 5: they'd be that clueless with him with Petrino. But it's like,
- 32:02Speaker 5: what the hell were y'all doing for a guy that
- 32:04Speaker 5: is the greatest ever? But this is also the same
- 32:07Speaker 5: guy late in his career. Bill Belichick turned Matt Patricia
- 32:10Speaker 5: into an offensive coordinator. So I don't know. I don't
- 32:13Speaker 5: know what's hitting him late in life, but he's done
- 32:14Speaker 5: some dumbass things. But at Wake, they know how to
- 32:17Speaker 5: use him. They literally have his South Alabama offense coordinator there,
- 32:21Speaker 5: Rob Azell. And I mean, and it's Gio, Carlos Hernandez.
- 32:26Speaker 5: How good is that kid? He gets better every week.
- 32:29Speaker 5: He's unbelievable, man. And the defense, how many plays did
- 32:33Speaker 5: the defense make, including, I'll include it because it was
- 32:36Speaker 5: starting defensive lineman, Gabe Kershke, who had the block field
- 32:39Speaker 5: goal to end the game.
- 32:41Speaker 1: You know, what a win at Louisville, man. Just a
- 32:44Speaker 1: massive win.
- 32:44Speaker 3: Now Louisville, by the way, has a couple of losses
- 32:47Speaker 3: and we thought they were a playoff team. They have
- 32:49Speaker 3: the Ole Miss loss to start the year, now they
- 32:51Speaker 3: lose to Wake. So we need to start monitoring them.
- 32:54Speaker 3: They're probably out of this thing. Well, I'm going to,
- 32:56Speaker 3: I'm good. They certainly can't lose anymore.
- 32:58Speaker 5: I'm going to monitor them this weekend as they absolutely
- 33:01Speaker 5: obliterate their next opponent out of anger.
- 33:04Speaker 1: And who is that opponent? Oh, NC State.
- 33:07Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, it's NC State. What a horrible timing to
- 33:10Speaker 5: be playing. Wake got good timing for Louisville, right? And
- 33:13Speaker 5: they made the most of it. I'm not saying State
- 33:15Speaker 5: would have, but like now State has to play them
- 33:18Speaker 5: bone when they're going to be furious. The way Wake
- 33:20Speaker 5: shut down that running game up front, too, was amazing, man.
- 33:24Speaker 5: Can I say something about where Jake Dicker came from?
- 33:27Speaker 5: Also Washington State, right? That's also where Tony Bennett came from.
- 33:31Speaker 5: And both those hires, we thought, how are those guys
- 33:33Speaker 5: going to do on the East Coast? Not really sure
- 33:36Speaker 5: about those guys.
- 33:36Speaker 1: Well, sure.
- 33:37Speaker 3: Lo and behold, I think if you're an ACC school,
- 33:40Speaker 3: you might want to just go look at who Washington
- 33:42Speaker 3: State has as their coaches.
- 33:43Speaker 1: That's a good question.
- 33:43Speaker 5: I don't know who's coaching out there, Finney, but that's
- 33:45Speaker 5: a very good point by both.
- 33:47Speaker 6: Clown Shoes Kyle's calling his shot Monday, 638.
- 33:52Speaker 4: NC State will beat the Birds.
- 33:54Speaker 1: Here's the problem.
- 33:55Speaker 5: Kyle, they're going to have to play 60 minutes to
- 33:57Speaker 5: win that game. And it seems like, Bone, they're not
- 33:59Speaker 5: full-time workers. It seems like they're part-time workers. The first half,
- 34:03Speaker 5: they're obliterating App 28-7.
- 34:06Speaker 3: And I'm like, this is a statement. Pun slightly intended,
- 34:10Speaker 3: but dumb. Well, we thought they would. I thought they
- 34:14Speaker 3: would come out looking like that, honestly. I thought they
- 34:17Speaker 3: would put it on App, but then things happened.
- 34:19Speaker 5: I mean, I thought they'd win by two touchdowns or more,
- 34:25Speaker 5: and they were putting it on them, physically dominating, which
- 34:27Speaker 5: they did in the run games, both run games. You
- 34:29Speaker 5: could see their superiority on the trenches. But credit to
- 34:33Speaker 5: App State. If I'm an App State fan, I'm absolutely
- 34:35Speaker 5: thrilled with the fight that they showed. They scored 21 straight.
- 34:40Speaker 5: They completely out-coached State on that Onside kick. I mean,
- 34:43Speaker 5: Dave Doran over there befuddled. I don't even know if
- 34:46Speaker 5: he knew that was legal to do. And so that's
- 34:49Speaker 5: the thing with State. Yeah, they finished him off. They
- 34:51Speaker 5: finally realized, OK, we got to go back and put
- 34:53Speaker 5: this game on the ground and finished him off on
- 34:55Speaker 5: the ground on that touchdown drive. But I like that
- 35:00Speaker 5: game to me would have me feeling way better as
- 35:03Speaker 5: an app state fan than an NC State fan.
- 35:05Speaker 1: No app state.
- 35:06Speaker 3: We said going in all the pressures on state apps
- 35:09Speaker 3: app season is not determined by that game. It's going
- 35:12Speaker 3: to be determined by what they do the rest of
- 35:13Speaker 3: the way. So, yeah, if you're app, you're thinking, man.
- 35:16Speaker 3: Starting to see signs that, hey, we might not be
- 35:19Speaker 3: fully app yet, but we are on the way. Dale
- 35:22Speaker 3: Wallach is doing a really good job there at App State.
- 35:24Speaker 3: That gives you a lot of hope for the rest
- 35:25Speaker 3: of the way.
- 35:25Speaker 1: He is.
- 35:26Speaker 3: His team is so much better than last year. And
- 35:28Speaker 3: that'll start conference play. Oh, my God.
- 35:30Speaker 1: Yes, he is.
- 35:31Speaker 3: Because they have had trouble running it, and they had
- 35:34Speaker 3: trouble running it on Saturday.
- 35:35Speaker 1: And that kid takes the game into his own hands, man.
- 35:38Speaker 1: Can I also say that.
- 35:39Speaker 3: Look where Lenora Sellers is two years removed from Dow Loggins.
- 35:44Speaker 3: And now look at Singleton and how well he's performed
- 35:47Speaker 3: with Dow Loggins. Maybe there was a little Dow Loggins
- 35:50Speaker 3: magic in 2024 with Lenora Sellers.
- 35:53Speaker 1: I don't think people are talking about that enough. And
- 35:55Speaker 1: obviously Shula.
- 35:56Speaker 3: People think Shula reprogrammed him to be horrible for eternity. Yeah,
- 35:59Speaker 3: you look at Lenore's regression, and yet Singleton is playing
- 36:04Speaker 3: at a high level. Well, it makes you wonder how
- 36:06Speaker 3: much of the loss of Dow Loggins has hurt Lenore Sellers.
- 36:11Speaker 1: Definitely. When we come back here.
- 36:13Speaker 3: On the Mac and Bone Show, Sounds of the Weekend,
- 36:16Speaker 3: you're going to hear Dave Canales react to the loss.
- 36:20Speaker 3: Todd McShay weighs in on the Dylan Stewart suspension, and
- 36:23Speaker 3: you have to stick around for two of our favorites,
- 36:26Speaker 3: Willie P going off on referees and Jameis Winston doing comedy.
- 36:31Speaker 3: Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ.
- 36:47Speaker 8: This is it, Hank Brown. A defining Iowa moment. Weights
- 36:53Speaker 8: in the wings. Can he snatch it? Empty in the backfield.
- 37:01Speaker 8: Hits his back foot.
- 37:02Speaker 4: Throws to the end zone.
- 37:03Speaker 2: Back shoulder.
- 37:05Speaker 7: Is he caught?
- 37:06Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
- 37:07Speaker 6: Oh, my God.
- 37:07Speaker 1: He caught it.
- 37:08Speaker 5: Oh, my God.
- 37:09Speaker 1: He caught it.
- 37:10Speaker 5: Yes.
- 37:10Speaker 1: Western Michigan and the college football world.
- 37:13Speaker 3: Iowa has your back.
- 37:16Speaker 1: That is amazing.
- 37:17Speaker 5: That is the college radio broadcast of Iowa's thrilling last second,
- 37:24Speaker 5: last play, pass victory over Michigan. And I believe all
- 37:28Speaker 5: of America, Bone, were Hawkeyes on Saturday night. That broadcast,
- 37:32Speaker 5: I imagine that's how Willie sounded as a college broadcaster
- 37:36Speaker 5: right there.
- 37:36Speaker 1: I honestly thought that was Willie at first.
- 37:39Speaker 3: Michigan, not only do you lose at the end, You
- 37:42Speaker 3: get beat by the pass by Iowa.
- 37:44Speaker 1: Of all things, Iowa passing their way down the field.
- 37:47Speaker 5: How about the fact that you get beat not only
- 37:49Speaker 5: on the last play of pass, right, but you also
- 37:52Speaker 5: get beat because of the clock stopping because one of
- 37:55Speaker 5: your guys got injured.
- 37:56Speaker 1: You know how mad I'd be at that dude if
- 37:58Speaker 1: I was his teammate?
- 37:59Speaker 5: Bro, you couldn't just roll your ass off the damn
- 38:01Speaker 5: field or something. But anyway, yes, it felt fitting. It
- 38:05Speaker 5: felt like karma. It felt a bit fitting. Meanwhile, Western Michigan,
- 38:10Speaker 5: the whole world's going to forget about them because they
- 38:12Speaker 5: were blasted by Boise State. The whole thought that, oh,
- 38:16Speaker 5: they could be a playoff team and the committee might
- 38:18Speaker 5: look at.
- 38:18Speaker 1: What they did. No, no, that ain't happening.
- 38:21Speaker 3: Now, Iowa gets game day on Saturday for the first
- 38:23Speaker 3: time in 20 years as they host Ohio State.
- 38:26Speaker 2: Iowa.
- 38:27Speaker 5: One more shot, kid. Come on, baby. What you got
- 38:30Speaker 5: for us? That Jeremiah Smith fellow doesn't look like any
- 38:33Speaker 5: kind of problem at all, Iowa. Go handle him, man.
- 38:35Speaker 3: That Illinois DB is still trying to find him on
- 38:37Speaker 3: that one touchdown he had where.
- 38:39Speaker 1: He kept zigging and zagging.
- 38:41Speaker 3: He is.
- 38:42Speaker 5: He gets better every week, dude. How about the catch
- 38:44Speaker 5: in the end zone where he somehow got a foot down?
- 38:47Speaker 3: Um, all right, let's get, speaking of Willie P, um, uh,
- 38:50Speaker 3: comparing the college kids passion to the P man, Charlotte.
- 38:54Speaker 5: FC loses one nil on a damn goal that was
- 38:59Speaker 5: so clunky in the box on a corner where it
- 39:01Speaker 5: bounces around. I thought it went off a dude's arm
- 39:03Speaker 5: and should have been a damn handball. That was one
- 39:05Speaker 5: of many things bone. The referees did that pissed me off. Um,
- 39:09Speaker 5: they sent off Tim Rehm. Tim Rehm got Westie literally
- 39:12Speaker 5: in the final seconds of the match bone. Um, Got
- 39:14Speaker 5: a yellow for a play and then a yellow for
- 39:16Speaker 5: the send. Boom, you got a red. So now he
- 39:18Speaker 5: can't play next match. There was a situation with the
- 39:21Speaker 5: Chicago goalie where he takes out Pepe on the box.
- 39:24Speaker 5: No freaking call. That should be a penalty. It was absurd.
- 39:28Speaker 5: And right after that one. where the goalie took out Pepiel,
- 39:31Speaker 5: the P-man started ref raging, Bone. And it was glorious, P.
- 39:36Speaker 1: This is it. A steal by Pepiel.
- 39:39Speaker 3: He got uphanded by the goalkeeper.
- 39:41Speaker 1: Nothing given.
- 39:43Speaker 2: How?
- 39:48Speaker 3: Pep stole it from the goalkeeper, and he got uphanded,
- 39:51Speaker 3: and there was no foul.
- 39:53Speaker 1: Now Maxie left side. Maxie dispossessed. How is that not
- 39:57Speaker 1: a foul?
- 39:58Speaker 2: Once again, Zinkernagel, middle of the park.
- 40:01Speaker 4: Zinkernagel takes a shot, saved by Kalina.
- 40:04Speaker 8: Yeah, we're taking another look at this foul committed by Cohen.
- 40:07Speaker 8: He takes out Biel on his back.
- 40:10Speaker 4: That is a foul there.
- 40:12Speaker 1: That is completely unmissed. How is that not a penalty?
- 40:15Speaker 1: They didn't even look at it.
- 40:17Speaker 2: That's just one that's a stonewall penalty.
- 40:20Speaker 1: I have no idea what... What the heck is he
- 40:23Speaker 1: looking at?
- 40:23Speaker 7: He's got the best seat in the house!
- 40:27Speaker 4: And now Pep is knocked down by Benbo Kazi. What
- 40:30Speaker 4: do you have to say?
- 40:32Speaker 1: Oh, man.
- 40:35Speaker 4: The only call he's gotten right is the offside today.
- 40:37Speaker 1: Oh, that's right. We scored a goal in Tiger Smalls.
- 40:40Speaker 1: But that was right.
- 40:40Speaker 3: That's only a snippet of audio. I don't want to judge.
- 40:43Speaker 3: I don't think Willie liked those referees the other day.
- 40:45Speaker 1: It was amazing. I would like a collab of maybe
- 40:48Speaker 1: Willie and the Iowa kids. The Iowa kids. college kids
- 40:53Speaker 1: and Willie on a broadcasting. That would be, let's do it.
- 40:55Speaker 5: Let's do it. The refs deserved every bit of that.
- 40:58Speaker 5: Chris Penso was freaking horrendous. It was horrible to watch.
- 41:01Speaker 5: It was annoying. And I'm so glad Willie screams at them.
- 41:04Speaker 5: The combination of him and Anna is just unintentional comedy
- 41:08Speaker 5: because she is trying to call it down the middle.
- 41:11Speaker 3: And hey, maybe this is a good call, Willie. We can't,
- 41:14Speaker 3: she kept telling him we can't blame the refs for
- 41:15Speaker 3: this loss. And Willie, you can tell just, he doesn't,
- 41:18Speaker 3: but you can tell he wants to yell back.
- 41:20Speaker 1: Yeah, we can blame the refs for the loss.
- 41:22Speaker 5: You know he wants to. But anyway, the refs were terrible,
- 41:26Speaker 5: but Charlotte FC, I got a great idea. How about
- 41:29Speaker 5: you actually start trying to push in the attack with
- 41:32Speaker 5: a sense of urgency before you give up a goal?
- 41:35Speaker 5: How about you actually in the first half act like
- 41:38Speaker 5: you'd like to get a shot on goal?
- 41:40Speaker 1: But anyway.
- 41:41Speaker 3: With the levels that his voice hits and... They're going
- 41:45Speaker 3: after the referees, Matt. Can I start calling Willie Squawk Harrelson?
- 41:49Speaker 3: That is a lot of Hawk Harrelson going after the umpires.
- 41:56Speaker 1: What kind of call is that? Oh, no doubt. No doubt.
- 41:59Speaker 5: We got to get to some Panthers here, and we will.
- 42:01Speaker 5: Seven o'clock, we're going to get. It going all Panther
- 42:04Speaker 5: hour in the seven o'clock hour, by the way, as
- 42:07Speaker 5: we vent our frustrations over the loss. But let's get
- 42:10Speaker 5: to Dave Canales here talking about the injuries bone, because
- 42:13Speaker 5: that's going to be I have to be honest with you.
- 42:16Speaker 5: I think I'm more upset about the worried about the
- 42:19Speaker 5: injury situation than the loss itself, if that makes any sense.
- 42:23Speaker 5: And some of you might be like, might yell at me,
- 42:26Speaker 5: like Willie yelled at the refs for that. But the
- 42:28Speaker 5: injury situation right now is very unnerving. Thank God there's
- 42:31Speaker 5: a bye week in week five, but we got to
- 42:34Speaker 5: play Detroit next week. And this is Canalis, um, uh,
- 42:37Speaker 5: talking about the injuries.
- 42:39Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 42:39Speaker 7: Uh, JC got a quad on the touchdown play at
- 42:42Speaker 7: the end. So we're going to have to evaluate that
- 42:44Speaker 7: and see where he's at, but he, he was not
- 42:46Speaker 7: going to be coming back in. Um, Coker, his quad
- 42:49Speaker 7: lit up on him a little bit. And so, um, the,
- 42:53Speaker 7: the pain wasn't really going away. We're testing the strength
- 42:55Speaker 7: and we decided we couldn't put him back out there
- 42:57Speaker 7: in that, in that condition. Uh, D Lou was able
- 42:59Speaker 7: to come back in and finish. Um, who else did
- 43:02Speaker 7: you ask about?
- 43:03Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 43:03Speaker 7: Mike Jack got a groin, uh, kind of chasing across
- 43:06Speaker 7: the field, uh, hit the ground weird. Um, so we're
- 43:09Speaker 7: going to have to take a look at that, uh, this, this, uh,
- 43:11Speaker 7: week as well.
- 43:12Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 43:13Speaker 3: Not exactly excited, Matt, to, uh, have to monitor Horn
- 43:16Speaker 3: and Mike Jack this week in particular when you're going
- 43:19Speaker 3: up against a Lions offense that you're going to need
- 43:22Speaker 3: those guys. And it's also a game, I do think,
- 43:26Speaker 3: like Chicago, where you're going to have to score some
- 43:29Speaker 3: points with the Lions.
- 43:30Speaker 1: And that's why you worry about D. Lou and Coker.
- 43:33Speaker 3: So it would be one thing, Mac, if the Panthers
- 43:35Speaker 3: were healthy and good to go for the Lions. All right, well,
- 43:39Speaker 3: forget the Browns game. Get focused on the Lions. But
- 43:42Speaker 3: with those guys that are hurt, that's a lot of–
- 43:45Speaker 3: that's going to be a.
- 43:45Speaker 1: Stressful week right there. By the way, he didn't even
- 43:47Speaker 1: mention it. Your quarterback's hurt.
- 43:48Speaker 5: He gutted through it, but he went into the tent–
- 43:51Speaker 5: You know he wasn't right. I'm sure it affected some
- 43:53Speaker 5: of the throws. Canales said that afterwards. So you've got
- 43:56Speaker 5: that going on, too. As far as the corners go,
- 44:00Speaker 5: I mean, I'm almost– that's why– that's another reason why
- 44:04Speaker 5: I wanted that game so bad yesterday, regardless of how
- 44:07Speaker 5: ugly it was, because I'm almost mentally feeling like we're
- 44:10Speaker 5: going to be too wounded against Detroit to win. I'm
- 44:12Speaker 5: sure by the end of the week I'll come around, Boney,
- 44:16Speaker 5: on it. But like right now, as I'm watching that game,
- 44:20Speaker 5: I'm thinking, shoot, you are going to be a wounded
- 44:23Speaker 5: bunch for the Sunday night football game.
- 44:26Speaker 1: The good news is find a way to win this one.
- 44:28Speaker 6: That's the good news is Detroit's just as equally wounded
- 44:31Speaker 6: as you are. Two wounded football teams.
- 44:34Speaker 5: Has Detroit gotten more hurt since the two safeties went
- 44:38Speaker 5: out to start the season and Cade Mays went out?
- 44:40Speaker 1: Are there new injuries to add to those?
- 44:43Speaker 3: I'd have to look. I know the safeties are out,
- 44:45Speaker 3: but I'd have to look. I didn't know if Fit
- 44:47Speaker 3: knew the way Fit was commenting there.
- 44:48Speaker 1: Because, Fit, what.
- 44:50Speaker 3: We're doing is we're doing the preseason training camp, even
- 44:53Speaker 3: pre-training camp injuries going all the way back to Icky
- 44:56Speaker 3: in the playoff game, and we are adding to them.
- 44:59Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
- 45:00Speaker 5: There are injuries, but we don't even talk about it anymore.
- 45:04Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like Brazel, but it's like
- 45:06Speaker 1: Nick's Gordon. We don't really talk about it.
- 45:08Speaker 5: Like the amount of dudes that are currently injured, either
- 45:11Speaker 5: from the past or now is Astra freaking nomical. And
- 45:16Speaker 5: that game was there. We gritted it out. We fought
- 45:19Speaker 5: our asses back ugly as it was. And here's the
- 45:22Speaker 5: thing that kills me. The defense was so good. Like
- 45:26Speaker 5: the first half, I don't put any of those 10
- 45:28Speaker 5: points on them. That was on failing on fourth down
- 45:30Speaker 5: and deciding to go for it on fourth down one time.
- 45:32Speaker 1: At your freaking 40.
- 45:34Speaker 5: But the defense then is amazing, Bone, until they have
- 45:38Speaker 5: to finish the game off. Twice the defense gave up
- 45:41Speaker 5: leads once we got leads. You know, it's like, God, man.
- 45:44Speaker 3: The one guy that's been added to it here outside
- 45:46Speaker 3: of Mays and Branch and... Joseph. It's Avante Maddox. One
- 45:51Speaker 3: of their corners got hurt last week. Yeah, that secondary's
- 45:54Speaker 3: all banged up. So it's not... It's not necessarily on
- 45:57Speaker 3: their offense outside of Mays. It's a lot of their
- 46:00Speaker 3: secondary guys. But we have Jalen Coker to go up
- 46:03Speaker 3: against these guys. And by the way, when someone locates T-Mac...
- 46:05Speaker 3: Pacheco's also out, too, one of their running backs.
- 46:07Speaker 5: When someone locates T-Mac, make sure he gets back to
- 46:10Speaker 5: Charlotte safely. He went missing yesterday. I believe Denzel Ward
- 46:13Speaker 5: kidnapped him and took him from the premises.
- 46:16Speaker 1: Holy crap. That was highly disappointing. Very disappointing.
- 46:20Speaker 4: And, Mac, that's the evolution, I think, for him. If
- 46:23Speaker 4: wide receiver won.
- 46:26Speaker 4: I don't know what the conversation is like with your
- 46:28Speaker 4: offensive coordinator, with Bryce. At some point, you go tell them,
- 46:32Speaker 4: you force feed me the ball. I'm going to go
- 46:34Speaker 4: make a play or two.
- 46:35Speaker 5: You also need to get open as well.
- 46:37Speaker 1: Yes. But, you know, luckily other guys did step up.
- 46:40Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, great job by Bryce and Tremaine.
- 46:42Speaker 1: Tremaine, the tight ends.
- 46:44Speaker 5: Titans at 128 yards receiving on 11 catches between the three.
- 46:46Speaker 6: You could argue Tommy Trimble is the most improved play.
- 46:50Speaker 1: On this roster. Are you stealing Mark Schlereth's bit?
- 46:53Speaker 4: I'm stealing nothing.
- 46:54Speaker 1: He said the exact same thing.
- 46:56Speaker 4: I'm stealing nothing from that jackass.
- 46:58Speaker 1: What an absolute joke of.
- 47:00Speaker 4: A broadcast that was just made by Fox.
- 47:02Speaker 1: You repeated the exact same thing. No, I said it first.
- 47:04Speaker 1: I said it first, he said it on TV.
- 47:06Speaker 3: Can we get some comic relief from Jameis?
- 47:08Speaker 5: Due to time constraints, Fitty, let's play the post-game Jameis.
- 47:12Speaker 5: Not to be confused with the pre-game Jameis that also
- 47:15Speaker 5: had America laughing. This is after the Giants pick off
- 47:20Speaker 5: a pass from Cam Ward, sealed it. They won ugly,
- 47:23Speaker 5: but it's much better than ugly loss. 12-7 win for
- 47:26Speaker 5: the Giants, and this is Jameis dedicating the game as
- 47:29Speaker 5: only he can to the injured Jackson Dart.
- 47:33Speaker 1: There was no doubt on the sideline that it was
- 47:36Speaker 1: going to happen.
- 47:37Speaker 2: Obviously, we are Alberta's keeper winning this game for Jackson.
- 47:42Speaker 4: 12 points, six times two.
- 47:46Speaker 8: It's for you.
- 47:48Speaker 1: That's 12. Six times two.
- 47:54Speaker 4: It's for you.
- 47:54Speaker 1: God, that dude.
- 47:58Speaker 3: That dude is just an American treasure. He had like
- 48:00Speaker 3: five or six things he did. Yeah, we could have
- 48:02Speaker 3: played a whole lot. The one before the game. We
- 48:04Speaker 3: got to play that by the end of the show.
- 48:05Speaker 3: How about Scataboo Mag was missing most of his helmet decals.
- 48:10Speaker 3: He got hit in the head so many times yesterday,
- 48:11Speaker 3: his helmet was just falling apart.
- 48:12Speaker 1: That tracks.
- 48:13Speaker 3: That definitely tracks. When we come back, the Panthers lose
- 48:15Speaker 3: an ugly one to the Browns. What and who do
- 48:18Speaker 3: you blame for the loss?
- 48:19Speaker 1: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.