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LYNETTE HOOKER'S ONLY DAUGHTER SPEAKS OUT AFTER GRISLY UPDATE · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace overboard, A beautiful young mom,
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  Speaker 1: Lynette Hooker, disappears at sea with her husband Tonight. Lynette
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  Speaker 1: Hooker's only daughter speaks out after a grizzly update regarding
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  Speaker 1: her mother. I means he graces. This is Crime Stories.
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  Speaker 1: I want to thank you for being with us. He
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  Speaker 1: was going, I don't have a wife. That's all performative.
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  Speaker 1: That's all performative. Your wife dies, drowns, that is missing,
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  Speaker 1: and you act like that.
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  Speaker 2: You go from being sad to like normal and talking normal.
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  Speaker 3: That's not right.
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  Speaker 2: Humans don't work that way.
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  Speaker 1: Joining us tonight is a very special guest that we
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  Speaker 1: have seen from Afar, we have prayed for, we have
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  Speaker 1: thought about during all these days that her mother, Lynette
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  Speaker 1: has been missing. Carly Aylesworth joining us tonight, Carly, thank
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  Speaker 1: you for being with us.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for having me.
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  Speaker 1: I've got so many questions for you, but I'll just
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  Speaker 1: start at the beginning. When did you learn your mom
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  Speaker 1: was missing? How did you find that out?
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  Speaker 3: Brian texting me saying call me at around nine eight
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  Speaker 3: thirty at night. My grandma called me prior to that,
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  Speaker 3: but I was napping so I.
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  Speaker 2: Didn't pick up, but then he said call me.
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  Speaker 3: I said, oh, two of my family members need me
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  Speaker 3: to call them.
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  Speaker 2: Something is happening.
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  Speaker 3: So I answered, and I put it on speakerphone, and
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  Speaker 3: Steve was right next to me and he heard the
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  Speaker 3: whole thing too, And Brian just said, hey, your mom
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  Speaker 3: fell overboard. I threw her a life preserver, but she
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if she got it. She's been missing
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  Speaker 3: since last night around seven thirty. And Steve immediately stood
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  Speaker 3: up and was like, something is off, something is sketchy
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  Speaker 3: from that phone call.
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  Speaker 2: And I was still in shock.
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  Speaker 3: I was just sitting there, like, what how do you
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  Speaker 3: lose my mom?
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  Speaker 1: Carly. You stated just then that hey, Brian Hooker, your
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  Speaker 1: mom's husband. It's your stepfather, right, yep, you stated, he
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  Speaker 1: said he threw her a life preserver.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's not even a life preserver. It's something
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  Speaker 3: that you kneel on or sit on. It's like for gardening,
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  Speaker 3: you something you kneel on, and it doesn't keep one
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  Speaker 3: hundred and fifty pound person afloat, so it's not technically
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  Speaker 3: a life preserver.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and that's why when you said he
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  Speaker 1: said he threw her a life preserver, because to my memory,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't have any notes about it in front
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  Speaker 1: of me. He said he threw her a seat cushion,
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  Speaker 1: but he told you he threw her a life preserver. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and look, I've dived all over the world before I
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  Speaker 1: had the twins. I gave it up because I thought
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  Speaker 1: it was too dangerous. But you're right, Carly. A seat
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  Speaker 1: cushion can be that thick that is not going to
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  Speaker 1: hold anybody up in the water, much less in waves.
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  Speaker 1: He said had started, Yeah, exactly, but he told you
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  Speaker 1: life preserver when we're talking.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was supposedly found like four hundred feet
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  Speaker 3: from the dinghy when it washed up to short when
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  Speaker 3: he washed up to shore in Marsh Harbor.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: It's just all subjective at the moment.
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  Speaker 1: That's really interesting, Carly. Now I understand what you're saying,
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  Speaker 1: and I agree with you, But could you explain why
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  Speaker 1: you don't think that's true.
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  Speaker 3: I don't believe that it would wash up right next
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  Speaker 3: to you, but my mom suddenly washed the other way.
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  Speaker 2: It just doesn't make.
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  Speaker 1: Sense exactly, that's my thinking. I'm not tied in wave
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  Speaker 1: and current expert. But if he washed that way and
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  Speaker 1: the dinghy washed that way, and the seat cushion washed
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  Speaker 1: that way. Then why didn't she wash that way? And
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  Speaker 1: your mom was an experienced sailor, she knew what to
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  Speaker 1: do if she fell overboard.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and where she fell in at we Steve and
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  Speaker 3: I went and like retrace their steps.
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  Speaker 2: That day, and she could have swim a couple.
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  Speaker 3: Of feet to the side, up to shore and stood
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  Speaker 3: up in the water. It was really shallow. It's like
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  Speaker 3: a giant sandbar in between the islands. So I'm just wondering,
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  Speaker 3: why was she swimming away from the dinghy and why
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  Speaker 3: didn't she try to get back on it. Why did
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  Speaker 3: she grab the key on her way out? It doesn't
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  Speaker 3: make any sense.
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  Speaker 1: They see. That's another thing we've been talking about, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm so glad you brought it up, Curly. So let's
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  Speaker 1: just go with your stepfather's story, Brian Hooker's story that
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  Speaker 1: she quote bounced off the dinghy. I still don't know
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  Speaker 1: how she bounced off, but I'll get to that. You're
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  Speaker 1: saying if she fell in in the spot where he described, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: let's see that control and let's see that Matt that
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  Speaker 1: he sent instead of outing being out looking for Lynette
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  Speaker 1: he was on the phone gabbing with friends for hours
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  Speaker 1: on end, putting his story out there and sending maps.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if my child or husband fell overboard, I
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  Speaker 1: would not be on a conference call on speaker with
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  Speaker 1: my friends trying to get my story. I'd be looking.
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  Speaker 1: But you're hearing Curly Illsworth. This is Lynette's daughter, her
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  Speaker 1: only biological daughter, and she's speaking there. Look, Carly's saying
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  Speaker 1: that where her mom allegedly fell off the dinghy, she
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  Speaker 1: only would have to swim a few feet and stand
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  Speaker 1: up on a sandbar. That's all she had to do.
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  Speaker 1: Is that what you're saying, Carly?
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  Speaker 2: Yep? Pretty much.
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  Speaker 3: And they found two life jackets in the dinghy when
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  Speaker 3: he washed up the shore, So why he didn't put
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  Speaker 3: one on and then jump.
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  Speaker 2: In to go give her the other one doesn't make
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  Speaker 2: sense to me either.
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  Speaker 1: See I did not know that, Carly. That's important. There
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  Speaker 1: were two life jackets still on the dinghy unused.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: Do you know where they were? Were they in Plaine View?
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  Speaker 1: They were they in a chest, a safety chest? Where
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  Speaker 1: were they?
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  Speaker 3: Eric?
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  Speaker 2: Just out on the floor.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my stars? Oh okay, wait, there's two life this
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  Speaker 1: lying in the floor and he did not throw one
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  Speaker 1: to her and put one on and jump in.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, his thought was to throw the seat cushion to her.
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  Speaker 3: He's an ex marine. I feel like he should be
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  Speaker 3: more on his toes of when these type of situations.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just trying to take in. You know, in three minutes,
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  Speaker 1: I've already learned more from you than I have from
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  Speaker 1: him in weeks. Okay, let me get back to You're
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  Speaker 1: just giving me so much information and none of it
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  Speaker 1: is good for him. Two. Why fast? Right there in
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  Speaker 1: the dinghy.
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  Speaker 3: My stepsister, his daughter, Rosie, told me, asked. She told
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  Speaker 3: me that she asked him if they were fighting when
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  Speaker 3: this all happened, and he didn't respond.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, hold on, I'm gonna have to start a flow chart.
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  Speaker 1: I'm getting so much information. Hold on, So, Brian Hooker
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  Speaker 1: tells his bio child Rosie, Well, he didn't tell her anything.
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  Speaker 1: She asked her, you arguing at the time, and he
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  Speaker 1: said nothing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: What else did you say to Rosie?
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  Speaker 2: Uh? He didn't.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think he said much to her. He mostly talked.
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  Speaker 3: He talked to us in a group chat with her,
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  Speaker 3: just to us three and was like, I wish I
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  Speaker 3: could be there for you guys, but I.
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  Speaker 2: Have to be here searching for her. This lady can
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  Speaker 2: take care of you guys, So that's she.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how much she's talked to him because
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  Speaker 3: she's still distraught because she was close to my mom too,
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  Speaker 3: so she's.
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  Speaker 2: Doesn't She doesn't want to believe any he did anything
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  Speaker 2: to her because that's her dad. So I get that.
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  Speaker 2: But at the same time, with what we know, it's
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  Speaker 2: just not adding note.
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  Speaker 1: With us tonight, carly Aylsworth, this is Lynette Hooker's only
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  Speaker 1: biological daughter. I do not know how you have the
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  Speaker 1: composure I admire it to speak. I wonder, if you're
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  Speaker 1: in a state of shock, do you believe there's any
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  Speaker 1: chance your mom is still alive.
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  Speaker 3: There's still a string of hope that she's just on
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  Speaker 3: an island somewhere living it up, needing a break from life.
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  Speaker 3: So without a body, it's kind of hard to like
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  Speaker 3: for me to have much closure right now. I still
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  Speaker 3: have so many questions as to what happened, a lot
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  Speaker 3: of what ifs.
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  Speaker 2: Why did that happen? Why did not this happen? It's
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  Speaker 2: just hard.
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad you have your boyfriend stayed with you. What
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  Speaker 1: was his reaction when your dad, your stepfather, called and
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  Speaker 1: told you your mom's missing. And let's see, he said
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  Speaker 1: that happened at seven thirty the night before. And when
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  Speaker 1: did he call.
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  Speaker 2: You nine thirty the next day at night.
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  Speaker 1: Nine thirty am? M oh my goodness. Okay, hold on,
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  Speaker 1: So we're talking about twenty six hours later.
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  Speaker 2: Yep?
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  Speaker 1: Did you ask him why he waited over a day
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  Speaker 1: to let you know?
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  Speaker 3: I was in shock when he called me, so I
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  Speaker 3: didn't really say much. I was like, okay, just trying
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  Speaker 3: to soak it all in. But as soon as I
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  Speaker 3: go off the phone, Steve got up and was like,
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  Speaker 3: that was sketchy.
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  Speaker 2: Something's off.
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  Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace. Tell me one more time
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  Speaker 1: exactly what he said on that nine point thirty PM
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  Speaker 1: call the day after your mom went overboard? What exactly
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  Speaker 1: did he say?
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  Speaker 2: He called me and was like, hey, your mom fell overboard.
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  Speaker 3: I try to throw a life to preserve birds or her,
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  Speaker 3: but I don't know if she got it.
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  Speaker 2: She drifted the other way.
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  Speaker 3: So I paddled to shore, and he said he washed
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  Speaker 3: up to shore at like four thirty in the morning
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  Speaker 3: the next morning. And so then he's like, but we're
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  Speaker 3: gonna come up and see you soon. So we're hoping
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  Speaker 3: that we're gonna see you. And I was like okay,
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  Speaker 3: and then he started talking about it again and quickly
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  Speaker 3: hung up, hung up on the phone, and I was like,
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  Speaker 3: what just happened? And Steve got up like that was Sketchyes,
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  Speaker 3: that was like that doesn't add up, like, and he
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  Speaker 3: was also trying to console me, but he was also
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  Speaker 3: like that, I don't believe the story as soon as
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  Speaker 3: you said it, so it was sketchy from the start.
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  Speaker 1: So he says she fell in. He threw her a
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  Speaker 1: life preserver. She went one way, and he paddled the
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  Speaker 1: other way.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it took him nine hours to get to shore.
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  Speaker 2: To Mart's harber.
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  Speaker 1: He said, he paddled the other way away from your mother.
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  Speaker 2: Because the wind was pushing it.
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  Speaker 1: I guess, okay, I just want to make sure, he
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  Speaker 1: said he paddled the other way.
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  Speaker 3: He just paddled with the wind, which is the other
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  Speaker 3: direction that she supposedly drifted away.
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  Speaker 2: I guess.
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  Speaker 1: And it took him nine hours.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So to him, the current was going one way,
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  Speaker 3: but the wind was going the other way. But I've
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  Speaker 3: talked to a captain there and when I went to
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  Speaker 3: the Bahamas and they said that they swam where he
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  Speaker 3: paddled in two and a half hours, So the fact
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  Speaker 3: that it took him nine hours doesn't add up.
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  Speaker 1: What happened after that phone call with your stepfather? When
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  Speaker 1: did you hear from him again? Uh?
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  Speaker 3: Immediately after the phone call, I called my dad and
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  Speaker 3: I was like, you will never believe the news I
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  Speaker 3: just got. He's like, I'm sure I can't because my
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  Speaker 3: grandma called him because she.
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  Speaker 2: Couldn't get a hold of me.
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  Speaker 3: And he's like, I was like, my mom's missing, and
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  Speaker 3: he goes, I know. We talked about it for a
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  Speaker 3: minute and he was like, I wasn't your number mom's
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  Speaker 3: number one fan, but this is messed up, Like I
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  Speaker 3: care about her because that's your mom.
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  Speaker 2: So it was yeah, that's immediately what I did after.
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  Speaker 1: When did you hear from him again? Cary?
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  Speaker 2: Oh?
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  Speaker 3: He left me some voicemails and that they found the
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  Speaker 3: life preserver that he threw to her and that they
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  Speaker 3: can search a smaller area now and left me a
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  Speaker 3: couple texts brought the group chats with Rosie and I,
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  Speaker 3: but I haven't responded. I don't plan to respond right
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  Speaker 3: now with the facts that I have and my gut feeling.
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  Speaker 1: So after that, you were included on some grape texts,
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  Speaker 1: What did they have to say.
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  Speaker 3: He was just saying how he wishes he could be
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  Speaker 3: there for us and we'll get through this this lady
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  Speaker 3: to take care of us if we need.
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  Speaker 2: To, and just that he needs to be there right now.
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  Speaker 1: Searching, what do you make of that evening's events. I
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  Speaker 1: guess that you're learning about through the media, that they
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  Speaker 1: went to have dinner at the inn, that they had
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  Speaker 1: drinks there, that they left around seven seven point thirty.
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  Speaker 1: Almost immediately when they got in the dinghy, the waves
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  Speaker 1: kicked up to two or three foot swells, and that
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  Speaker 1: shallow area that she quote bounced off the dinghy and
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  Speaker 1: was never seen again. What part of that does or
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  Speaker 1: does not make sense to you?
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  Speaker 3: Well, the Atlantic side, I can see you having that
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  Speaker 3: big old waves because I was there and I saw
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  Speaker 3: the waves are pretty big.
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  Speaker 2: But on the leeward side it's like glass.
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  Speaker 3: It's not even no waves, And there's a channel that
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  Speaker 3: you go down because the boats need to be deep
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  Speaker 3: enough and so and then it's only like so wide.
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  Speaker 2: It's like fifty feet wide.
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  Speaker 3: Twenties. I don't know, not that wide, and she could
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  Speaker 3: have swam to the side and stood up.
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  Speaker 2: It's only a couple of feet outside the channel, so
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  Speaker 2: I don't see how their condition swim. Yes, and she
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  Speaker 2: used to run all the.
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  Speaker 3: Time, ran half marathon in a twenty five k so
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  Speaker 3: she was pretty fit.
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  Speaker 2: She could swim. They've done this for ten years, so
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  Speaker 2: she knows all about the water.
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  Speaker 1: So when was the last time you actually spoke to.
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  Speaker 2: Your mom Friday around dinner time?
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  Speaker 1: And what did she have to say? What was her
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  Speaker 1: frame of mind?
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  Speaker 2: She seemed fine to me.
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  Speaker 3: I asked her for advice and she was helping me
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  Speaker 3: with that, so she you were just Yeah, she'd more
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  Speaker 3: confide in my grandma about like relationship problems.
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  Speaker 2: And money and all that.
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  Speaker 3: So she just she only tells me like when she
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  Speaker 3: thinks she's going to break up with him and leave him.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, Carly, tell me about if you know about them,
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  Speaker 1: their relationship and money problems.
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  Speaker 3: So I know that they don't touch my mom's retirement
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  Speaker 3: right now because she's not fifty nine and a half.
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  Speaker 3: So they've been taking out of Brian's so I don't
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  Speaker 3: know how much he has. I don't know, like what
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  Speaker 3: his financials are. I know my mom has life insurance,
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  Speaker 3: but it's only fifteen thousand from AT and T where
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  Speaker 3: she retired, So I don't know if they took out
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  Speaker 3: another life insurance. I ask my lawyer, but he's looking
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  Speaker 3: into it.
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  Speaker 1: So so they're living all of your mom's retirement is
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  Speaker 1: sitting there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, she has like well over six.
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  Speaker 1: Hundred k, yeah, that she has built up over all
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  Speaker 1: the time that she worked at AT and T.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And like the fact past last two years she
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  Speaker 3: was working a few years she was dumping like one
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  Speaker 3: thousand dollars each.
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  Speaker 2: Paycheck every other week into her retirement.
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  Speaker 3: So I know it's pretty high.
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  Speaker 1: And you know another thing about that, Curly is I
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  Speaker 1: think AT and T has a plan where they match
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  Speaker 1: not the full amount you put in, but up to
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  Speaker 1: a certain percentage, like five percent or ten percent, they
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  Speaker 1: match what you saved. A lot of big corporations have that.
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  Speaker 1: So what she was putting in there was matched to
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  Speaker 1: some extent, most likely by AT and T. And that
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  Speaker 1: really adds up two grand a month from her and
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  Speaker 1: then just let's say eight hundred two a grand from
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  Speaker 1: AT and T a month the whole time she's banking
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  Speaker 1: it in that retirement plan. That's a lot of money
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  Speaker 1: saved up, so well over half a million dollars yep.
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  Speaker 1: And I assume that he, Brian Hooker, is the benefit
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  Speaker 1: as the recipient of that upon her death.
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  Speaker 2: So my grandma said, my mom wanted hurt.
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  Speaker 3: My mom wanted to change the beneficiary to me the
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  Speaker 3: last time they broke up two years ago, but she
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  Speaker 3: doesn't know.
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  Speaker 2: If my mom ever got around to doing that.
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  Speaker 1: There have been reports that he took out a quarter
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  Speaker 1: of a million dollar life insurance policy before your mom
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  Speaker 1: went missing. Do you know anything about that?
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  Speaker 2: I do not.
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  Speaker 3: I asked my lawyer if you could look into it,
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  Speaker 3: but I haven't heard from him yet because I asked
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  Speaker 3: him on the weekend, so I think he's still looking
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  Speaker 3: into it.
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  Speaker 2: I still have to check back up with him.
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  Speaker 1: Let that Hooker's only daughter, Carly Aylesworth joining us tonight. Carly,
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  Speaker 1: when and why did you decide you had to go
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  Speaker 1: to the Mahamas yourself?
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  Speaker 3: I just wanted to retrace their steps, get more answers.
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  Speaker 2: On like what happened, and I felt like that was.
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  Speaker 3: A very I answered a lot of questions, but like
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  Speaker 3: it just arose more questions.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: Of why did that happen? Why didn't this happen?
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: This, it's like a cascade of coincidences happened.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Let me ask you, Carling, when you went down to
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: the Bahamas, what did you do.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: The first day we flew to Nassauce.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: We stayed the night there and I got my hair
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: braided by a lady in the streets. And then the
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: next day we flew to marsh Harbor. I did an
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: interview with Dateline and then I talked to the Bahamian
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: police for about three and a half hours. They hand
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: write everything, so it took a while, but I was
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: happy to either answer any questions. They didn't tell me anything.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: They just wanted to know my side of their relationship
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: and what I knew. And then I went and then
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: somebody offered us a boat ride to go on to
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: soulmate their sailboat.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: And then I got a couple of items that's so
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: I can remember my mom.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: I had her l necklace on right now that she
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: used to weigh all the time.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: I got some of her headbands.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: I got a picture frame I painted for her, and
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: something that was sewn for her.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: In a Buddha so she loves Buddha.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: Then I went to bed like right after that exit
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: that day exhausted me.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: I got fourteen hours of sleep, and.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: Then the next day we took a ferry to Hopetown
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: where she was last seen and we went to the
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: Abaco Inn and the general manager did show us videos
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: of her last moments there, but they didn't send He
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: didn't send them to me because he wants to respect
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: the investigation.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: So I said okay, And so I just have.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: A faint memory of the videos. The videos aren't in
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: four K or anything, so it was fuzzy. You couldn't
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: really see details. And there is a picture of them
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: at the pool at six thirty four pm. That was
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: the last like noted thing about them. So we talked
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: to the lady there at the Abaco In and she
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: was really nice.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: She helped a lot.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: She asked somebody if they had cameras on their house
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: that was right next to Abaco In. They said no,
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: and then she got us a boat ride and so
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: we went to the floating bar that they went earlier
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: in that day and we asked questions and they said
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: nothing was unusual about them, just getting drinks. And then
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: there's rumors that they went to Firefly, so we didn't
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: go there.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: There's nothing. Nobody remembers them. There's no cameras there.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: And then we went to and then we looked where
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: she fell in. The whole thing is like a giant samdbar.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: She could have swam a couple of feet and then
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: stood up, so I don't see how she could have
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: flown away and drowned.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Is it true that your stepdad, Brian Hooker knew you
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: were coming down and he left anyway just before you
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: got I'm sure.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: He did because I told the reporters that I was
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: coming down there, So I'm sure he knew and he
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: bolted right before I got there.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: What do you mean by right before you got there?
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: I don't remember if it was a couple hours before
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: I landed in the Bahamas or it was the day before.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: It's a little blurry right now. A lots happens, but
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: I do know right before I got there, he left,
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: and I he called my dad and I was like,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: he left? Can you believe that? And he's like, no,
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: I cannot guess. Is wild.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Were you surprised he left?
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: Because one day he's saying, I'll never stop searching for
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: her and crying on camera, and then leaves the very
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: next day, which to me, that just shows his character
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: on how much his word means and just who he
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: is as a person. You're gonna go see your mom
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: who's been ill. She's been ill for a while with
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: chronic kidney failure. So I'm not saying like, don't see
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: your mom, but with what's going on right now, why
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: leave now?
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: I've got a question about that, and then I'm going
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: to circle back to everything that you did in retracing
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: the steps of your mom. I find that very odd
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: because my mom, who lives with me, she's ninety four,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: has been in chronic kidney failure. I know for a
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: fact since twenty sixteen. Sometimes when we take her to
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: the kidney doctor, her kidney function is like forty seven,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: which is good, really good if you're ninety four. Sometimes
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: it's twenty seven, and I make her special food that's
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: supposed to help your kidneys, and it goes right back up.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: So you can be in chronic kidney failure for a
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: really long time. I know, for ten years. Did he
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: really go to her bedside?
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: I know he flew her to Atlanta, but where you
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: went after that is I don't know for certain, but
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: I think it's in California.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Where's mom?
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Okay, you think the mom is in California. Do you
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: have any indication she's in the hospital.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think he's in the hospital because she
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: was going to get a kidney transplant, but she declined,
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: so I don't think she's going to the hospital.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Okay. Have you spoken to him since he turned tail
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: and left?
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: No, he hasn't even reach showed either.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Okay, you mentioned that he was crying on camera. I looked.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: I replayed it over and over and over. I heard
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: a lot of sniveling and when he would act like
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: he was crying and suddenly have a coughing fit. But
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: I never saw a single tear.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, neither to die.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Okay. I was wondering if is that just me? You
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: mentioned that your mom, Lynette, spoke to your grandmother, her
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: mother about their relationship problems. You told me about them.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: You mentioned money problems too. What were their money problems
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: and what were their relationship problems? And why did they
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: stay together?
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: I don't know why they stay together. I do know
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: that my mom bought a plane ticket like five days
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: after I was visiting them to go all one way
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: ticket to Florida to my grandma she's in the middle there,
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: to go back to her house. I didn't know that
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: she bought the plane ticket until all of this happened,
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: but she.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Never got on the plane. She stayed. I don't think
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: she wanted to go through another divorce.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: I think she loved him, but she didn't love that
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: side of him that he can get.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Very anarchy and smart, assy and just like kicking on
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: her kind of.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: And she even mentioned to me when I was there,
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: she didn't like how he gets twenty drinks and gets very.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: Emotional, remain very emotional.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: I just think like when you're drinking, your emotions get
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: amplified a little more like spiral. Like she bought like
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: a bath set like a rug and a curtain with
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: the little holders on it, and he was like making
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: fun of her kind.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: Of about it, and why did you buy that?
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: Blah blah blah, and she's like, what do you mean,
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: And that's when she mentioned she didn't like how he
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: gets when he drinks. But he can be really great
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: and a great and he talks to everybody and very uncharming,
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: or he can beat that, so he's just like two
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: sides to him.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: What do you make of claims of domestic abuse of
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: him beating her?
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: I do believe that happened because she told me two
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: years ago that he choked her and was threatening to
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: kill her and throw her overboard, and she said he
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: choked her so bad that she felt something like pop
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: in her neck. So and then that's when she packed
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: her bag and left, and that she only left him
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: for like a couple of months. She went back to him, sadly.
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: I don't know why she went back. I think she's
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: always known that she needs to leave him, but she
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: cares about him a lot, and he can be a
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: great person. Like he's been there a lot for me
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: and always gave me advice too, because I was in
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: a group chat with him and my mom, so I
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: got along with him for my mom. Really, I always
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: didn't want her to be with him. Every time they
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: broke up, I was like advocating for her to stay
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: away because it feels like he like tried to like
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: take her away and like made herself the house. And
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: I know that she wanted to do that eventually, but
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: I don't think that she was like ready to do
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: it yet. I think it was just like she was
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: tired of being bored at work because nobody has phones anymore.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: So it's just, Yeah, did you see the photo of
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: the bruises all along her lower back?
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: I know her friend had that picture. I didn't see
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: that until after all this happened. Like, she doesn't really
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: tell me much about what goes on in the relationship
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: until after she thinks she's gonna leave him. So I
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: just hear from my grandma and from Rachel, her friend.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Why were they having so many money problems?
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: Carly, I think like since he was taken out of
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: there his retirement, but not hers, I think maybe that
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: might be it. I know when she left him, she
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: was going to go back to work at the post office.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: Maybe she was thinking about it. She was applying, she says.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: When she's not with him, she feels like she needs
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: to go back to work for a little bit.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: Because she retired at forty nine.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: So she could have stayed a little harder.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: But yeah, it's just.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: Why did he retire? Why isn't he working?
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: He got fired from at and t Uh. The bosses
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: didn't really cared for him because he was a union
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: Steward and just like to yell at them and make
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: him cry. He was bragged about making them cry a lot.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: So I don't think the managers there really cared for him,
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: and then they started micromanaging him and eventually got him fired.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, question to you, do you believe he left to
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: go see his mother.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: I do believe he did, but I don't think she's
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: like passing away anytime soon.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: So was that a way for him to get out
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: of the Bahamas.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: I don't think he wanted. A part of me feels
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: like he didn't want to face Steve and I I'm
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: glad he left those because I did not want to
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: run into him.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: I did not. I didn't want to say something and
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: I regret or something.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: You said. You got to go on to the soulmate.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: What did you observe? And where is the boat now?
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: It's still on the morning ball at Conkin.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: It's a hotel there and they have morning balls out
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: in the water, and they they originally put their boat
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: there so they could use the bathrooms.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: In the pool and the bar.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: There's great and so then they moved their boat next
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: to elbow Keep and then after she disappeared, he moved
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: the sailboat back to Conkin, so that was confusing why
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: he didn't leave the boat right where it was so
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: his missing wife knew where to look.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace. What do you make of
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: the police decision in the Bahamas to let him go?
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: I wish they would have kept them longer, but I
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: guess they have to follow their rules. There's just not
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: enough evidence right now, especially without finding the body. I
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: guess when he was in custody, he would only answer
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: four out of ninety four questions, so he didn't really
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: give out any information.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: Okay, hold on, he only answered four out of ninety
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: four questions. Please put to him.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: How did you find that out?
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: A reporter asked people, and she told me so, it's
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: not definite. I don't know for sure. It's just hearsay,
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: but that's what I was called.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: I still don't understand, Carly, how your mom quote bounced
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: off the dinghy? Did he explain that he didn't really?
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: I didn't really talk to him. I just heard the
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: recording that somebody else posted about how he dropped the
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: anchor and let off a flare, which was funny because
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: he only met that after I brought.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: It up, like, why didn't he do that?
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: And I guess one flare was expended, but it just
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: nobody saw it. So and all the captains that we
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: talked to said, if we see a flair, we are
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: there in less than five minutes. So and it was
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: a Saturday night and everybody's out on their boat, out
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: in the water on their boat. So it's just confusing
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: that nobody saw it.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: Somehow.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: In on the leeward side, it's not very it's very calm,
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: there's not much wind.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: It's all on the Atlantic side.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: So the fact that there was that big old waves
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: on that side of the island, I don't believe it's true.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: I did talk to a captain and he said he
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: was working that night and he doesn't remember the waves
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: being that bad. He said it was windy, yes, but
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: not to the point where someone can just bounce out.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: How do you know one flare was expanded?
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: I saw an interview from with Ken with another reporter
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: or a podcaster, and he said that one flare was
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: expended in the.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: Dinghy because some reports are that none of the safety
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: equipment had been used at all, including the flares, and
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: he stated he put off two flares.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's so many different variations of this story that
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: he keeps saying, So.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: I think I hope he just messes up one time.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: And I don't know how far away from the shore,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Carly did your mom allegedly fall off the dinghy.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: She fell off right at the end of the channel,
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: so it's pretty like maybe fifty feet.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: She only had to swim a couple of feet to
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: stand up.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: And fifty feet in all, five zero fifty feet from
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: sure just about and just a few feet to stand
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: up on the sandbar.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Do you think there is any way under the sun
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: your mother would be alive somewhere hiding from you.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm hoping for. I hope she's still alive.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: I hope she's happy, and I hope she's okay.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: But do you think that makes any sense? Would she
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: hide from you maybe as a way to hide from him.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: No, I feel like she would at least reach out
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: to my grandma because her they're really close, So I
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: feel like she would have at least contacted my grandma,
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: And I know my grandma would have told I don't
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: honestly know. Maybe they would have kept it a secret,
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: but I know my grandma wouldn't be this distraught also
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: if she knew her daughter was alive.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: So I don't when you say your grandma would not
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: be this distraught if she believed Lynette was still alive.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: What do you mean, like.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: If my mom contacted her.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: I feel like I feel like my grandma would let
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: me know because this is like a big deal.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: I don't think she would want me to be burting
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: this bad if she knew that she was alive. But
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: None of us have heard from her. I sometimes even
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: call her just this see if she would pick up.
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: But nothing, there's nothing.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: You still call her number sometimes I do that too.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Sometimes I call my dad's cell number. It's not going
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: to pick up, I know that, but I do it anyway.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know why we do that.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: Carly slowly to Hole.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: I forgot to ask you something. What can you tell
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: me about your mom's Apple watch being found on the cellmate?
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: I don't she didn't really wear her watch when I
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: went out to visit in February. But what I heard
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: is that Brian handed the Coast Guard and the Bahamian
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: police the watch from the book.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: How about her cell phone.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: That was in the dry bag with the passports, and
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: they haven't found the dry bag.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: And that was retrieved. They have not found the dry bag,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: you know what. I heard that earlier, but it didn't
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: make sense to me that he could leave the country
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: without a passport.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: I think he got an expedited one.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: Well, that answers that. So both passports and her cell
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: phone were in the dry bag and that's lost.
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, A part of me feels like it was around
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: her wrist or something and she disappeared with it.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: Did that have the kill switch in it too?
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: He said that the spare one was in her dry bag,
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: but never mentions the one that they were using, or
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: she grabbed it on our way.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: See, that's where I'm confused. Did they have two with
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: them or so? What happened to the original one?
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: If the spare one was in her dry bag, that's
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: I'm confused about that.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: You're right, And why would she have her passport with
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: her and go overboard with it? Are you saying she
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: had it attached to her wrist?
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm thinking.
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: Because they haven't found it, it would have been floating.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: That's the use of what dry bags are for. But
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: I don't know if they haven't found.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: It, guys, Carly has established a go fund me to
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: fund her own search for her mother and lawyer's fees. Carly,
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: where can we find your go fund me?
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: I posted it on all my social media platforms. I
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: made sure it was public on Facebook, so if you
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: search me on Facebook, you'll see it in my Instagram.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: I have it in my TikTok a sleepy underdash ponyo.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: If you want to look that up. I'm gonna have
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: to do it for either searching for my mom or
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: lawyer fees in the future because this is ridiculous.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Carly for being with us tonight. Guys,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: you can find her go fund me. If you want
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: to help, go to her go fundme. You can look
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: it up on Google. There it is Lynette Hooker, missing
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: in the Bahamas. Sleepy underscore panyo. Everyone. If you know
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: or think you know anything about the disappearance of this
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: beautiful mom, Lynette Hooker, please dial two four two three
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: hundred eight four seven seven repeat two four two three
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: hundred eight four seven seven. We remember an American hero,
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: Deputy Sheriff Douglas Hannah wassh dot County Sheriff's Oklahoma, killed
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: in the line of duty, leaving behind two sons without
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: a dad, Kellen and Kyler. American hero Deputy Sheriff Doug
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: was Hannah Nancy Grace, signing off goodbye friend. Mm hmm