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"Fair Treatment" (Tuesday August 26, 2025, Hour 4) · First Thing Today with Joe Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Is that what we want to live in where you
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  just occupy every city because of so called prime First.
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  Speaker 2: Thing today on the Talk media Network by Joe Thomas,
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  the second most famous Thomas and Charlotte Smith, George.
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  Speaker 3: Said, steal me stem you have a day at least
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  for work when the sun comes up, drops a.
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  Speaker 4: Kid to scoop on the way. Joey has everything, a dreamer.
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  Speaker 5: All the jers is seven, No one that Joe's allis smiled.
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  Speaker 6: He on the eggs ce.
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  Speaker 7: Joe, bless you for letting me be of service to you.
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  Speaker 4: I want to be Joe.
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  Speaker 7: You can get with us after we tell you the news.
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  I want to hear how the news is impacting you.
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  Speaker 8: Where you are at four three four eight eight two
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  four two one seven eggs you can traditional phone call
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  but also text message that number.
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  Speaker 7: It's become like wildfire.
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  Speaker 8: I guess I shouldn't say that with the fires going
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  on in Napa and Oregon, but it's caught on dramatically.
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  The contacting by text message emails come into JT in
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  the morning radio at gmail dot com. The voice you
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  heard was Adam Kinsinger, who had been a Republican and
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  an Illinoisian and so Jake Tapper, working on his next
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  book on how he's ignored one whole side of a story,
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  decided to have. I mean, if it worked once, why
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  not work it again? Had Kensinger on to talk about
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  this fanciful story. And we reported to you yesterday that
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  a leak from inside the Pentagon claimed to the Washington
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  Post in their Pentagon Papers section that they were working
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  on a plan to deploy the National Guard into Chicago.
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  Of course, now everyone's got to have a reaction.
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  Speaker 4: JB.
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  Speaker 8: Pritzker and Adam Kinsinger and everyone else, Rod Bologoyevitch have
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  a response to this at all. But you have to
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  listen a little bit to Jake Tapper. This is a
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  guy who's been yelled at a few times by lawyers
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  regarding the rhetorical swaw.
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  Speaker 9: Violent crime in Chicago, the governor pointed out, is down
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  dramatically from last year, at least according to statistics.
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  Speaker 8: It is at least according to statistics and the governors.
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  So I'm not saying that crime is down, but the
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  governor and statistics are down.
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  Speaker 9: Statistics, and it is of course still pretty high.
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  Speaker 7: Well, but it is really high, you know, because he
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  knows that what's coming next, right, as.
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  Speaker 10: It is in most major cities.
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  Speaker 9: Chicago's mayor as is, sending in the military is not
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  the best way to help produce crime in Chicago. You
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  represented Illinois. Is there any benefit to sending in the
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  National Guard or any facets of the military, And what
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  would a better approach be if President Trump were truly
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  sincere in your view, in his desire to bring crime
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  down in these cities?
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  Speaker 7: Again, more qualifiers?
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  Speaker 8: Is President Trump if he's just since here in your view,
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  I'm not saying anything. Oh, he's so punchy from the
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  reaction to the book, and I'm sure you know the
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  CNN brass is all over him like proverbial white on Rice.
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  We'll get into Kinzinger's response, but I just wanted to
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  just we're having an impact on some of the news
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  desks because there they realize they just can't say whatever
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  crazy stuff pops in their head anymore and get away
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  with it like they used to. I mean, granted, you
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  have that panel on CNN five Loonies and Scott Jennings,
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  which I think, yeah, we ever found out is that
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  the official name of it five Loons and Scott or something.
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  It's like five loons in Scott is the panel and
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  they say stuff like I believe schools should be indoctrinating centers,
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  and it's just crazy. Well it's our world. It's just
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  crazier than it has been. But we'll get into all
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  of that coming up for you. Also, more folks here
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  Speaker 7: Read all about it.
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  Speaker 8: I'll have more posts and blogs coming from it online
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  coming today. But our first things this morning, two candidates
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  for the governor of our flagship state of Virginia. We're
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  both asked about redrawing states congressional districts. This in the
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  wake of Texas's vote to redraw their districts, California's pending
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  vote in November to authorize redrawing of their districts in
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  a Democrat party way, and a judge in Utah ordering
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  the legislature to redraw their congressional maps before mid term
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  election season. As a matter of fact, they have to
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  have a draft of a remedial congressional map redrawn by
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  September's end of this year. State lawmakers have signaled the
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  plan to appeal the ruling by Judge Diana Gibson, which
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  said that she found that state legislators the state legislature
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  had unlawfully jerry mander districts in favor of Republicans. Now
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  does that mean if you did it in favor of Democrats?
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  Speaker 7: Who would be okay? Stay tuned.
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  Speaker 8: Meanwhile, the two gubernatorial candidates in Virginia were queried about
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  this and both said no win. Some Earl Sears, current
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  Virginia Lieutenant governor, said I think we are fine, but
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  you know, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it.
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  Abigail Spanberger equally vague by saying short answer no, but
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  I've been watching with interest what other states are doing.
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  Cracker Barrel says, maybe we could have done a better job.
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  when facing the rebuke from their rebranding and changing their logo.
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  Kilmar Garcia may not be headed to Uganda yet, his
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  lawyers said he hasn't had chance to talk to him,
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  so he's been denied access to counsel. Did anyone on
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  January sixth get access to council?
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  Speaker 7: And how soon?
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  Speaker 8: Inquiring minds fifty four percent of registered voters, according to
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  the Harvard Center for American Political studies and a poll
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  they had conducted by the Harris Group said they approve
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  of President Trump's actions in Washington, d c. With a
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  national guard fighting crime, including twenty eight percent of the
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  Democrats they asked.
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  Speaker 10: JB.
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  Speaker 8: Pritzker said Trump is a want to be dictator, an
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  arrogant little man, probably before seeing the results of the
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  in a lot of places that we you know, we
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  the presenting station for their tour in my flagship area.
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  Speaker 11: Uh.
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  Speaker 7: There.
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  Speaker 8: There's a lot of work too to doing that too,
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  millions of dollars over all that time.
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  Speaker 7: So we'll get into that.
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  Speaker 8: More live coverage here from the State Policy Network and
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  the annual meetings here State Politics. Chip Rogers, Uh and working.
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  We talked a little bit about unions yesterday and some
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  big court wins against unionism. They're coming up to ship
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  Rogers sticking by with us here at the French Quarter
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  Read all about it. I am one of the writers
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  the Virginia Institute for Public Policy. A do tank, not
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  just a think tanks, a do tank. Mac McDonald, our
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  sports director, lots going on in.
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  Speaker 7: The sports world. Mac, What's up? Okay, Joe?
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  Speaker 1: Here are the stories we are following on this Tuesday.
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  Since the first week of college football is upon us.
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  Even though week zero is still a thing, the Labor
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  Day weekend has more juice than normal, with a slew
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  of games Thursday and Friday. Saturday starts at three day
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  stretch with headliners. Number one Texas is on the road
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  to play number three Ohio State at noon. Number eight
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  Family is in Tallahassee to meet Florida State. Number nine LSU.
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  Number four Clemson will play the Tiger Bowl in Death
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  Valley Saturday night and Sunday. Number six Notre Dame will
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  be in South Beach for a scrum against number ten Miami.
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  The colleague athletic landscape has changed for sure. Department revenues
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  are up two hundred and twelve percent from the past
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  eighteen years. Expenses grew two hundred ten percent during the
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  same time period. Coaching salaries up three hundred seventy percent.
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  Let the games begin.
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  Speaker 8: Amen to that, Mac it's always Why has it always
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  come down to money? Because brothers got to eat. So,
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  Chip Rogers, tell us about this court victory you had
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  against unionism that just came down last week.
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  Speaker 7: Well, you know, I find a couple of things up.
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  Speaker 8: Your story reminds me of every time I've talked about
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  how much we pay federal employees. I get the but
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  we want the best and brightest, which is always one
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  of the big cun jobs out there there, Chips.
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  Speaker 7: So what did you do?
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, thanks for that. So a federal court held that
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  the adjudication of a charge of discrimination can now go
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  directly to federal court if in fact, you are a
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  federal employee. Before this ruling, you had to go through
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  the federal system, which yielded really no results whatsoever for
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  the person who was alleging the discrimination. And you know,
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  there are millions and millions of federal employees, and so
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  you have to recognize that at some point there's going
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  to be some forms of discrimination, and that can you know,
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  the entire gamut from sexual discrimination to racial discrimination to
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  religious discrimination. These things clearly happened. It's the same way
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  they happen in society. But unfortunately federal employees didn't really
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  have a chance to have their case adjudicated because of
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  all the cases that were brought, are understanding that only
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  two of them were ever successful, and so the courts
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  properly held that. Listen, these are folks who have rightfully
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  have a claim that they should be able to go
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  to federal court with. And so you're going to see
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  folks now going to court to hold those unions accountable
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  to make sure they're not being discriminated against. And at
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  a time where the news reports, especially in and around
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  anti semitism, are all over the place, you know there
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  needs to be a remedy when a union gets out.
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  Speaker 7: Of line, you know, without question. And so Chip.
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  Speaker 8: Reminds me, apocryphal though it may be, of FDR's statement
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  regarding federal or government unions, Well.
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  Speaker 10: They didn't until now. And that's why this is such
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  a landmark ruling, because you know, it really recognizes that
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  someone who's discriminated against in the workplace should have their
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  day in court. There has to be a remedy for that,
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  and heretofore, the structure that was created did not provide
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  that remedy. You can't tell me that of all those
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  cases that only two people actually had a legitimate case
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  given that there are millions of employees through the years.
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  So the court did the right thing here. And most
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  importantly what this does is that it holds folks accountable.
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  Because imagine, if you are an employer and you can
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  pretty much or in this case, a union, and you
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  can pretty much do whatever you want to your union
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  members and have no fear that you're going to have
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  to go to court over it, well then you have
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  license to do again whatever you want. This puts that
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  check there that there are certain behaviors, particularly in and
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  around discrimination, that are not acceptable. And if you're a
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  union discriminating against your union members, whether it be you know,
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  some form of anti Semitism or anything along those lines,
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  you need to be held accountable.
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  Speaker 8: Well, and I think that flies in the face of
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  what I think the average American is going to sit
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  there and say, well, the whole point of a union
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  is to protect you from that. And over time, maybe
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  you know, it's just a group of humans, and eventually
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  a group of humans, as you said at the on
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  Sense Chip, there's going to be animosities, there's going to
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  to be jealousies, there's going to be rivalries, that. You know,
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  any big organization is going to be prey to. But
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  if you if you always look the other way just
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  because the word union is involved, you're just begging for it.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, you are begging for it. And they shouldn't have
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  a license to operate outside the scope of what every
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  other employer has to do. But I think as you
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  see unions become more and more engaged in political activity,
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  this was the type of thing that was going to
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  come out of that. Unions, unfortunately, have decided that they're
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  going to take their members' money and put that into
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  political campaigns, sometimes radical political campaigns. I mean, we see
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  right now that the unions, many of the unions in
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  New York City, are financially supporting a gentleman who has
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  made endless anti Semitic statements. And yet just think if
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  you're a Jewish employee in those unions and your money
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  is literally going to fund this guy. I mean that's
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  just fundamentally wrong.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, without question, should you're talking about Zohan mad money there,
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  Chip Rogers and the battle with unionism. I don't know
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  if we're at a point where maybe it's outlived its usefulness,
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  it's jumped the shark.
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  Speaker 7: You know however you want to put it or not.
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  Speaker 8: I want to get into that with you coming up
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  a live coverage from the State Policy Network. These incubators
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  of democracy, as they say, but big ruling against unionism,
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  especially government unions, and the waning size of the private
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  union landscape is driven these unions to look for I
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  guess it's assme the federal state, but I mean even
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  unions that run hotels and things like that are trying
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  to get federal and state employees onto their roster because
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  you know, you can't put you can't put the employer
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  out of business if it's the government you hope.
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  Speaker 10: It has the.
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  But a question for you, Chip, it has the union movement,
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  certainly from where you stand, you know outlived its usefulness.
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  I mean, you see companies, even as mundane as Walmart,
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  the Walmart and the employees every single time say no,
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  we get treated very well. And we see more and
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  more American companies say, you know, union's getting turned down
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  Speaker 10: Yeah. What's interesting is we've kind of seen union membership
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  go in two different directions and the private sector. To
• 29:33
  your point, union membership across the United States is less
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  than ten percent. Is that one of its lowest points
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  in history. However, on the public sector, it is continuing
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  to grow. And you know, I don't know if it's
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  that the public sector attracts the type of person who
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  ideologically wants to be any union, but you look across
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  the US and now amongst public sector workers, you know
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  on the federal side, are part of a union, and
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  that that's a little bit of a arming situation, especially
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  given that they're working for the taxpayer and they're being
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  paid for by the taxpayer. To then unionize may not
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  be getting the taxpayer the best return on investment. But
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  it has been a major shift and that private sector
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  and increasingly public sector jobs are.
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  Speaker 8: Chip Rogers is on with us for Americans for fair treatment,
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  as you can tell somebody who works very hard to
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  imano way where you're rewarded for your efforts, not because
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  to get this much money.
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  Speaker 7: Regardless of what you do in your day.
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  Speaker 8: Right there, you are talking about how the public sector
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  unions have grown, and whether it's apocryphal or not, whether
• 30:53
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  that has always it's been associated with it is that
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  the employer is in no way, shape or form going
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  going to have that pressure. And so whether FDR actually
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  Speaker 10: Well to your point about a private sector not even
• 31:24
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  Speaker 7: Hey, Virginia is still a right to work state.
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  Speaker 10: Hang in there and please stay with it. Yeah, but
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  those type of jobs may track someone who ideologically is
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  the government. I mean, the problem that it creates, as
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  Speaker 7: So is there a good fix?
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  Speaker 8: Or is because I can see, you know, the panic
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  Speaker 8: You know, does you know it just become a too
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  Speaker 8: And they also run the peril of immediately or very
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  of them are the same as the fifty wealthiest Americans now.
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  Speaker 7: I have not, but I know the place.
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• 35:54
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  Speaker 8: Well, and the economics of that works out because you know,
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  that's where the merit based system that you're talking about
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  really works. I really appreciate your visit chip. Are you
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  Speaker 10: Hands, shaking hands and meeting more people yet.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, thank you very much.
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  you lived under a rock, didn't you, mister Thomas. It's amazing.
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  You know, you talk about these people who wind up
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  in music radio and all I grew up and all said,
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  you know, yeah, that wasn't me.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, I was not.
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  Speaker 8: My parents loved you know, Billie Holliday, and they had
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  all the jazz stuff, which you know I used to
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  love about coming to New Orleans.
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  Speaker 7: And I walked past a restaurant last night on Canal
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  Street and you know, wide open.
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  Speaker 8: You know, there's a typical stereotypical restaurant here in New
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  Orleans in the French Quarter. All the windows kind of
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  open up. They become sort of an outdoor indoor hybrid thing.
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  And I hear guitar playing and I'm like, oh, cool,
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  there's live music. Let me see what's going on. The
• 45:36
  guy's playing James Taylor, and I love James Taylor. My
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  oldest son is named Taylor. And I will leave it
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  to your imagination as to why, but not in New
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  Orleans and I'm sure James Taylor has done some amazing
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  shows and you know he will, you know. And it
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  wasn't even Steamroller. I mean, if he was doing Steamroller blues, okay,
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  because it's that's not only a James Taylor song. It's
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  certainly one James had made famous.
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  Speaker 7: But you know, we've got the midvunkin early burning Funker.
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  Speaker 8: Sure fine, but it wasn't it was one of his
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  you know, big hit songs. It was just crestfallingly disappointed,
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  just like where's the jazz, where's the where's the blues?
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  One restaurant I ate at the first time I came
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  to New Orleans, which albeit was in the late nineties,
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  is now a Capital One bank. You know, a lot
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  of French Quarter isn't what it was once before. It's
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  I don't know, and some of it has become very much.
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  And we go down to Virginia Beach. We have a
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  great affiliate down there in Norfolk, w t a r
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  that we've I have never visited, but I know they're
• 46:54
  they're there and they're listening. And we go down to
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  Virginia Beach frequently. And you go walk along a boardwalk
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  and walk along the boulevards, and they are all the
• 47:04
  T shirt shops with the with the window magnets and
• 47:08
  all that kind of stuff, and like, oh, okay, great,
• 47:13
  you know that's and that's what New Orleans is kind
• 47:15
  of turning into, at least from my standpoint there. And
• 47:21
  but you know, the conference is great, and the people
• 47:25
  are cool and hanging out with them. They're emails, got
• 47:28
  emails here, Charles writes in marilynd manned Kilmar Orbrego Garcia
• 47:35
  and his languages so young Kilmar won't know the language.
• 47:41
  They're in Uganda, So we ask what is the official
• 47:47
  language of Uganda and Africa Dot UPenn dot edu tells us. Actually,
• 47:58
  Charles's email, which clips from Africa dot UPenn dot edu.
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  Speaker 7: Yu Kanda's official language is wait for it, wait for.
• 48:14
  Speaker 8: English, which which, to be fair, I don't think Kilmar
• 48:18
  speaks all that well, but he did speak well enough
• 48:20
  to explain to the Tennessee State trooper that he had
• 48:23
  he wasn't doing human trafficking, despite it looking like he
• 48:27
  was doing human trafficking. He was just taking people to
• 48:31
  work where he went to. Mary Uh writes into four
• 48:36
  three four eight eight two four two one seven joke
• 48:39
  can you go back to the Latin you and doctor
• 48:42
  Clark were talking about. You said there was another expression
• 48:46
  for the Virginia logo, and I didn't get a chance
• 48:50
  to write it down, but I thought it was very good. Well,
• 48:54
  first off, my shallowness knows no depths. When you tell
• 48:59
  me something we did was good, I will respond to it.
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  So the Virginia slogan on Virginia's flag is six semper tyrannus,
• 49:09
  thus unto tyrants, regarding our overthrow of the tyrants. Well,
• 49:14
  you know, after a while, kind of fun. So you know,
• 49:18
  doctor Kuig was trying to think of of a reverse
• 49:21
  tyrant kind of slogan, and I thought of return of
• 49:24
  the tyrants is reddit tannorum tyrannorum reddit tyrannorum. But moreover,
• 49:31
  if you look at the way things go in these
• 49:33
  planning commissions and these zoning boards and all these places
• 49:38
  where I mean, you might get fifty people at your
• 49:41
  local city council meeting, maybe a couple hundred bigger city,
• 49:46
  a minor percentage of the actual population, yet they will
• 49:54
  drive the vote because they're present. And in many cases
• 49:58
  you'll have one or two of the population dictating terms
• 50:03
  to the other ninety five to ninety eight because they
• 50:07
  showed up at the planning commission. And if you want
• 50:10
  to know what democratic capitalism is, go to a planning
• 50:14
  commission or a zoning board meeting and listen to the
• 50:17
  people say, yeah, I don't think we should have a
• 50:20
  hotel with a bistro in it, because I think we
• 50:24
  already have too many of those. And nobody on the
• 50:27
  planning commission ever thinks to say, hey, and are you
• 50:30
  at all related to the owner of the other hotel
• 50:33
  slash bistro in the area.
• 50:37
  Speaker 27: Oh no, we just went to college together and we're
• 50:40
  fraternity brothers. But we're not related at all. And so,
• 50:45
  but that's that's democratic capitalism. We all get to vote
• 50:48
  on what you get to spend your money on or where,
• 50:54
  so give. With that in mind, I thought a better
• 50:57
  Latin expression would be, you know the translation of the
• 51:01
  phrase we are the tyrants and you tell me? It
• 51:05
  seems like your your email or your text message is
• 51:08
  indicative of the fact that you like this idea we
• 51:12
  are the tyrants.
• 51:13
  Speaker 8: Now, no sumus Tyranni. There's a slogan for your state flag,
• 51:20
  you know, no Sumus Turrani. Maybe that's the new flag
• 51:25
  of New York State. No sumus TEIRRANI with a picture.
• 51:29
  Now in Virginia's case, we have a warrior, a female warrior.
• 51:33
  By the way, you want to talk about woke, Virginia
• 51:36
  was woke two hundred years ago. We had a female warrior.
• 51:39
  We know this because her top is partially off. Yeah,
• 51:43
  there's there is full frontal nudity on Virginia's flag. Just
• 51:48
  warning you kids, and I just don't want you to
• 51:51
  be shocked by it. But a female warrior with a
• 51:57
  sword unsheathed like her chest and standing on some cesarean
• 52:04
  type tyrant on the ground has been fallen by her battle.
• 52:11
  See my idea for the flag is a whole bunch
• 52:13
  of people in you know Roman Togas standing on a
• 52:18
  pile of other people saying we are the tyrants. Such
• 52:22
  are the musings of a misspent mind. I hope you've
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  Speaker 7: Until tomorrow. So long and thanks for all the fish.
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