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Stephen A. Smith vs. Max Kellerman: Who's right in their BEEF? · NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO)

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Let's do it. You're listening to Jabba and
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I'm looking skinny on this camera tonight.
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I don't know what it is. Maybe there's something going
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I don't know how long he's going to be here today he's taking
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to be joining us maybe a little bit later in the show job.
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But before we get into it, you're taking care of your son.
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Your son's moving back to school going on.
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We had a good first semester. He had his last final 1:00
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today. And it was, it was his toughest
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one, his biology one. He'd been, he'd been battling,
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ganging that one up, but still made the president's list of GPA
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stayed up. So proud of him for that.
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He's like, I'm just glad to get through this.
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And he goes, I squeaked it out. So yeah, getting that got him,
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got him back. He's running over to his mom's.
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Then of course, you know, Stops gets all of his stuff ready
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here. I got laundry money and a
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charger. And so, yeah, and then we're
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going to go grab some food and throw some laundry in.
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But I thought I'd stop and see the boys before kind of sit down
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and just get him settled. And then he's home for freaking
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seven weeks. So it's quick.
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Yeah, the brakes are a lot longer than they used to be.
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I don't Remember Remember when I was in college having a break
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that long and so. Yeah, even.
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When? I was in school, it was only
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like a month. Yeah, I mean, it's crazy.
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And and he's actually even going back early because their season
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starts, which and it's crazy too.
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He called me yesterday and he goes, dad, you want to be our
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interim coach? And I'm like, what what's going
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on? I guess they're they're pitching
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coach literally took a job in the same conference.
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And it's so funny. We have just literally talked
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about this and the Jayhawk League for junior college is is
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a great baseball conference. He's taking a head coaching job
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at Butler, which is in the same conference and literally is
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leaving. Like so he told him at their
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Christmas party and then he's leaving.
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So he's not even going to be there for spring.
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So he Carter's like, I don't know what's going on right now.
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And I was like, oh, let me apply, Let's see what happens.
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Let's see. But I'm like it.
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It was interesting so. Yeah, it's just been.
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Are you applying? I mean, I might as well.
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All they can tell me is like one thing my dad always said.
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It's like all they can tell you is no, right?
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So but we'll see. I mean, obviously, you know,
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he's down there. So those would be those would be
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interesting mountain visits with if I have to go talk to Carter,
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what's your son in between a rough inning or something.
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But so no, it's just nice to have him home.
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And it's just, it's, it's always, you know, it's he's 4
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hours away. So it's, it's, you know, when he
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when he makes those trips back, it's a little, little nervy for
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me, but he's made him plenty of times.
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But yeah, I got all of his clothes and stuff back.
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So, you know, it's going to be nice to have him home and, you
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know, just hanging out and and get a workout with him too,
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which is going to be really fun. We started throwing program and
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everything on Wednesday. I'm going to try and hop on.
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Yeah. Well, you're a big part of the
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show, so I was surprised that you popped on.
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At least I thought you were driving back from Hampton, so
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maybe you would just pop right on when you're driving because
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we've seen people do that before.
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Niffin loves to do that during the show.
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Java would have had to had to change his name to I Hate
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technology again a. 100%. So.
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All right boys, y'all have a good one.
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I'm going to run and we'll we'll see you soon.
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I'll TuneIn. There it is, Jabba Chamberlain
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ladies and. Gentlemen, I love you.
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Guys, we love him too. It's crazy because Jabba, he
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told me on Sunday morning that he would not probably make the
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show. He might sneak in here and
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there. So I was very surprised that he
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popped in as early as he did, but appreciate him and he now
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he's applying for a pitching coaching job.
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I, I over there in Hampton, a very interesting I, I, I don't
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see why he doesn't get the job. He's job at Chamberlain, but
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unless the coaching staff doesn't want it to mix father
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and son. I that sometimes happens and
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sometimes people and, and obviously coaching Staffs don't
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allow that. But hey, I I wish him nothing
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but the best and he gets to go down there and hang out with his
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son a couple of couple of weeks a year.
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Actually, what is it? Baseball season over there has
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got to be a couple of months, but whatever.
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All right. Ladies and gentlemen, we have a
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segment and we call this What's Beef?
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Do. You know what beef is?
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Do you know? What beef is which one are you
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afraid? I fight you both together if you
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want, I fight. You want 1 poor time behind the
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back. I fight you stand on one foot.
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I fight you with my eyes. Closed What are you scared?
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Watch your mouth. I see you.
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Guaranteed to be. I see you one more time.
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Was beef, beef, beef. Oh, right.
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Ladies and gentlemen, there's been a lot of beef going on in
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the media world. Max Kellerman.
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Yes, Max Kellerman is making his rounds and he made his rounds
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last week talking about the the back and forth banter on why it
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didn't work with Stephen A Smith.
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And first take five years with Stephen A Smith came to an end
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and Max Kellerman said this. So Stephen A, you're in a
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relationship with where you're doing a show together for how
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many years 4. 5. Five years.
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I didn't love how he handled the aftermath.
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You leaving where is basically like I told you the show would
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be better. I just thought because I think
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you're really talented now. You and I have known each other
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for a while. Whether it meshed as a show
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perfectly, I don't know the answer to that, but I just
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didn't think that was the right way to handle it.
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If you're doing a debate show and you're a competitive person,
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yeah, why would you want me as a partner?
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That's bad. You want to go 15 rounds every
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day with Ted Kellerman? That's just bad.
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You know, it's, it's embarrassing.
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You know, I have an idea. This is what I want to put on
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TVI want to spar Bud Crawford every day.
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For. 15 rounds and I want everyone to see it.
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Eventually you're going to say I don't want to do that anymore.
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That's what I could tell you from my point of view, yeah.
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And I also think that if you make a calculation that if you
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can be perceived as a solo act, really, that you can get paid at
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a certain level that you can't if you're not a solo act, then
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you'd like to be a solo act, or at least perceived that way.
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I have a lot of respect for Max Kellerman.
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I look up to Max Kellerman. I'm a boxing fan.
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I follow him. I've been following him since
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HBO. The guy's boxing knowledge is
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impeccable. I don't think there's anybody in
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the game that knows boxing more than Max Kellerman.
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I love everything about him, his personality, what he brings to
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the to the the station, everything that he did for ESPN
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at first take. I love the fact that they
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matched him up with Stephen A Smith, a younger Stephen A
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Smith. If you really look at it, one,
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Max Kellerman is one of the more intelligent people in the
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industry. The guy has a unique structure
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of personality and the way he brings out the product and and
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his product to the world. And a lot of different guys have
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said a lot of different things about Max Kellerman.
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Maybe sometimes he speaks too much or maybe he uses too many
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big words. What I love about Max Kellerman
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is he's honest. He tells you straightforward, He
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doesn't beat around the Bush. He gives you his take and he
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lets you know, know that that's his that's his way to attack it.
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And what he said about Stephen A Smith isn't a lie.
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Now Muhammad Kellerman, he's trying to compare himself to, I
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don't know, Muhammad Ali. I think that's ridiculous.
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I don't, I again, I'm not, I didn't grow up a Muhammad Ali
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fan. I didn't, I didn't watch
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Muhammad Ali fight. I was a Mike Tyson fan.
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I grew up in the heavyweight division.
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That was the guy I watched. And I was a Sugar Ray Leonard
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fan. Max Kellerman is my age.
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Max Kellerman and me are practically the same age.
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For him to bring up Muhammad Ali and compare himself to Muhammad
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Ali when he never really got a chance to really see him fight
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him fight live is ridiculous. If he said James Buster Douglas
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versus Mike Tyson that would have been more interesting when
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it came to his factor and the way he tried to compare him
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himself to Stephen A Smith. I do agree with Max Kellerman.
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Stephen A Smith was going to make more money if he was a solo
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act. And I do believe Stephen A Smith
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had his thoughts on keeping Max Kellerman in position to be
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comparable to himself. I think Stephen A Smith wants
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the cameras on him and Max Kellerman was taking the cameras
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off of him. And, and really their
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personalities are are very alike in very different, you know, in
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the same ways I Steven, and you're going to hear what Steven
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had to say about and he was making jokes about and cracking
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jokes about it. But I think Max Kellerman is
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straightforward, honest, and I don't think he fears what
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Stephen A Smith was going to say.
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He to me, planned to do this. He's he's waited all this time
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to speak about First Take and he waited for this particular time
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to drop this beef, this hammer on Stephen A Smith for everybody
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to check out. And Stephen A Smith had this to
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say. Did I hear correctly?
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Did we show what he called himself Muhammad Kellerman as in
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Muhammad Ali Kellerman? Muhammad Ali Kellerman?
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Oh my God. Oh I ain't going to lie to
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y'all. I have my researchers check and
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make sure that wasn't AI, that that wasn't that somebody just
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made-up, you know, I had to be. I had to double check that.
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I really, really did. I couldn't believe it.
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OK, If we were talking about boxing, you're absolutely right,
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because I don't know anybody that knows more boxing than
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that. He's extraordinary, no doubt
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about that. We're talking about first tape,
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though, and he took it someplace that all I want to say is, are
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you, are you really sure you want to go there?
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See, there's a lot of stuff that goes on behind the scenes.
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Are you sure you'll want to go there?
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Because I'm not unless you take me there.
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All right. Now he brought up boxing like I
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brought up boxing and if somebody came at me and said,
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well, Errol, you know about this and you know about that.
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You're, you're knowledgeable in all sports.
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So I, I can't really attack you on any of these, your comments
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about basketball or baseball or football or hockey, because, you
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know, I, I qualify for my conversations when it comes to
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sports for him to bring up Max Kellerman and when it comes to
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boxing. What do you know, Steven?
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Like, seriously, you're a basketball guy.
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You are a basketball writer. What do you know?
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You know football because you talk about, I don't know, the
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Dallas Cowboys and you're a Giant fan.
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What do you know about the Knicks?
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You talk about MMA like you know something about mixed martial
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arts. The only reason why you were
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going to and you were doing those things for ESPN is because
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you have a big contract with ESPN.
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What do you know? What do you know about football?
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If I asked you right now who is the starting off, What is the
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starting offensive line when healthy of the, I don't know, LA
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charges, could you give me at least four out of the five?
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The answer would probably be no, unless somebody's telling
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Stephen A Smith in his ear. I think Max Kellerman would
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know. Max Kellerman has a photographic
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memory. This guy is a genius.
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He remembers rounds of fights. He remembers how many punches
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were thrown in those rounds in those fights.
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I think what Max Kellerman said about Stephen A Smith is not too
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much, too much off the truth. Stephen A Smith didn't want Matt
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Kellerman there for one reason, because Max Kellerman was taking
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the cameras off of him. That's what it was.
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And it was and, and for some reason, Stephen A Smith wanted
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to make sure that he was center stage, that he was getting the
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money, that he was going to make the the the majority of the
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money. And if Max Kellerman in that
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contract was waived after five years, he would take, he would
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get the boatload of the money, the back end of the money and
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Stephen A Smith would have control.
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Then I, I don't know if anybody heard it.
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He brought up Skip Ellis and he said, well, the reason why we
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had the number one show in America was because Skip Ellis,
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all he was doing was filling in for Skip Ellis and that's why we
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were the number one show and he wasn't Skip Ellis.
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No, Max Kellerman wasn't Skip Ellis.
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But guess what, Stephen A, you're not Skip Ellis either.
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And for you to come out and bring up Skip Ellis, Skip Ellis
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left, went to Fox now hit. Was his show as complimentary as
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your show was over there? First take?
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No, but Max Kellerman did what he was supposed to do.
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He was supposed to go there and fill for one of the one of the
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greatest media personalities we've ever seen on first take
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cold pizza. And really he was the guy that
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structured this back and forth banter for ESPN.
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Matt it wasn't. I'm sorry.
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It was, it was, I'm sorry, Skip Ellis.
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That was really that transition that changed the industry for
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what it was. He brought in Stephen A Smith.
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And by the way, Stephen A Smith wouldn't be Stephen A Smith
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without Skip Ellis. So Stephen A Smith helped Max
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Kellerman. Skip Bayless helped Stephen A
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Smith. What is the difference and to
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compare and try to try to go back and forth on who knows
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more. I, I, if you would ask me right
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now who knows more about sports, Max Kellerman or Stephen A
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Smith. My money is on Max friggin
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Kellerman book that if I was sitting right here and I was
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judging back and forth banter when it comes to professional
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sports, college sports, any sport, I'm taking Max Kellerman
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over Stephen A Smith. And what's so and another thing
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that Max Kellerman said that I loved is he didn't want to he
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didn't want to have the same answers.
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So he always looked at a certain topic offset from what Stephen A
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Smith would say. Stephen A Smith was always the
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guy that was trying to attack and he was always trying to look
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at it in a different way at a different way of a fan.
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So a fan could, if a fan had a different objective or an
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argument to that particular subject that he would give them
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that view. And that's why he went off set
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on some of the things that he believed, even though he didn't
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believe it to be. He says media has become
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entertainment and entertainment has taken to has been and has
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chosen to take it to the next level.
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And he says that's what First Take was.
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And he says, yeah, I believe that the way First Take treated
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him and and treated well, I'm speaking for him, treated me.
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I felt like I was tossed to the side and pushed out because
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Stephen A Smith didn't want me there.
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So it's been beef, it's been banter.
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It's been a lot right now. And I I think it's to me,
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Stephen A Smith came out and said that if Max wants me to to
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come on a show at any time, I would do that.
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He's a good dude. He's a he's a kind, you know,
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personality and and I love the dude.
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He said, but to come out me, come at me like that on that
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show and and do it the way he did it was, you know, in his own
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words, wrong and and he laughed at it.
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He giggled at it. But this was good media work for
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for both of them. It helped Max Kellerman and it
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helped Stephen A Smith. I think that was it was
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perfectly planned. I don't even know.
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I would probably put some money on it that Max Kellerman reached
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out to Stephen A Smith before he did it.
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I, I really do believe that both these guys, I had some kind of
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connection behind this media work because it was picked at a
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perfect time, perfect time. It was like a Wednesday or
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Thursday in the middle of a week when nothing was going on, when
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a story needed to break. And that was the story that
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broke. So very interesting story.
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I got to give them both a little bit of credit.
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I think they've both changed the industry, made the industry more
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interesting to watch. I just I questioned the way
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First Take treated Max Kellerman at the end so.
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First of all, check out Errol's story about Stephen A Smith as
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well on the Worldwide Sports Radio Network website as well.
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And I just want to mention, I think besides, I think him
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saying Kellerman was saying like we had a story on a few years
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ago for the Yankees to trade Aaron Judge or something like
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that. I think besides that, I can't
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remember anything like that egregiously said compared to
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like all these other hot heads. We bash Nick, right all the
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time. And I had to block Skip Bayless
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on Twitter because of what he said about DeMar Hamlin.
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It was egregious. And Stephen A Smith said some
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dumb takes of his own and like, everyone's got him, but it seems
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like Kellerman and like there's a reason, I guess, for that
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genius. He is a genius, and even Stephen
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A Smith said. I think he's even smarter for
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himself. He's even smarter.
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He, he, he, he looks past so many different things.
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He's so intelligent. He, he in every single fight or
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every single statistic that he looks at to try to compare a
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game or a certain statistic for an athlete, he looks more deeper
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into the stat that other people probably wouldn't look at, you
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know, as a professional. So I, I just think that Max
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Kellerman's just an intelligent man.
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And I think Stephen A Smith was, you know, didn't like him
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because he was taking the cameras off of them, taking,
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taking the spotlight away from him.
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And now it gets to work with that dope Cam Newton, who has
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that worst quarterback opinions than anyone.
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Cam Newton's a whole nother level of stupidity, so.
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But hey, listen, it's a great story.
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I want, I know Fish reached out to me and said this is, this is
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a great beef story. I thought it was.
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I, I questioned the way it was picked and what time it was
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picked on how. And I think it was cleverly
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picked out for Max Kellerman to do it at the perfect right time
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to, to put this out there for media to talk about it.
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I think it, it was cleverly picked.
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It was, that's not the word. It was.
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It was very clever. For Max Kellerman to choose the
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time to put this out here, it took him over a year to put this
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out. Just think about it.
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And then he picks this on the Bill Simmons show to put this
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out here out there like that. And by the way, Bill Simmons and
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Stephen A Smith are very close. And that and it pissed Stephen A
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Smith off that he did it on the Bill Simmons Show and some of
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the takes that Bill Simmons had after the fact pissed off
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Stephen A Smith on the way. Bill Simmons brought it to it,
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you know, brought it to the fans attention.
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Said Errol. He said thanks for the free PR,
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Steven. That's that's basically how he
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put it on his show. He's not wrong.
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He's certainly not wrong about. That I thought it was very
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interesting. It was very, it was cleverly put
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out there by Max Kellerman. I think it was very clever.
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I think that Max Kellerman is one of the more intelligent.
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I would love to meet Max Kellerman.
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I never met Max Kellerman. I think he's a very clever guy.
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I think he knows what he's doing and I think this was perfect for
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him. This was better for him than it
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was for Stephen A Smith. I think Stephen A Smith knew
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that this was something that could drive and he just drove it
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even further. I think it was a great move by
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both guys. This is why they're they're very
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rich in their business and, and why they've gone as far as
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they've gone so far in the industry in such a fast way.
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So that's just my opinion. All right, Speedy stat of the
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week. The speedy well you may run like
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me, but you hit like out of the week.
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Another article to check out of Arrows that he just wrote as
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well is on the Kansas City Chiefs on their downfall and you
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can go check that out on the Worldwide sports.
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Radio. I put it together today.
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It took me about an hour and a half to put it together.
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It's very funny. Yes, check it out
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worldwidesportsradio.com and the Chiefs are where my stat ends up
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going. I was talking about a couple
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weeks ago when they played the Bills and how high their
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pressure rate was and now I'm going to jump into Sunday Night
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Football against the Texans. Patrick Mahomes ends with a -.54
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EPA per drop back, which is the worst in his career. 42.4
22:16
completion percentage is the worst in his career and 19.8
22:20
passer rating. That is a very Zach Wilson ask.
22:23
The Texans pressured Patrick Mahomes 18 times, high for the
22:26
most this season, and held Mahomes to just. 2.
22:30
Completions on 12 attempts for 40 yards when he was pressured.
22:34
I always say you can't blitz. Patrick Mahomes.
22:36
He knows how to counter it. And Texans know what to do
22:38
without blitzing. And what did they make it?
22:40
Work. This might be the best defense
22:42
I've seen since the Baltimore Ravens in 2000.
22:45
That's how good this defense is. They are fun, fast and they're
22:50
relentless. They are relentless and he was
22:55
running for dear life. Their their secondary is they
22:59
have two of the best safeties in the league.
23:01
Stingley is one of the best corners in the league.
23:03
I mean, they're so fast off the ball and let's.
23:05
Start the whip around, then right there with those Kansas
23:10
City Chiefs vote. Whip, whip, whip around.
23:17
All right, let's get it going here.
23:19
Since you wanted to go into, we might as well just get it going
23:22
with that game right off the bat.
23:25
In fact, I have it as two teams that basically lost their chance
23:29
of making the playoffs this week.
23:32
The Chiefs 20 to 10 fall to that Texans team.
23:36
The Texans are now 8 and 5A game behind Jacksonville for the
23:41
lead, tied with the Colts. Colts lost.
23:44
Daniel Jones will bring it up in a little bit.
23:47
Obviously the Chiefs defense just was very good, but Andy
23:53
Reid made a very curious 4th down decision when the game was
23:58
tied to go for it and instead they fail and they give up the
24:04
points. They don't come back from it.
24:07
The offense is not the same. The tackle situation still a
24:11
problem. Simmons from Ohio State is out.
24:14
He's on the IR. He was the guy that was supposed
24:16
to fix it. The reason why?
24:18
He hasn't looked good in the last couple of weeks.
24:20
Anyway, he's, he's hurt, you know, and they they're not,
24:25
they're not a playoff team, Meryl.
24:26
It certainly doesn't look like in the Cowboys.
24:28
If we thought we thought that they were better with all the
24:31
additions, the Lions smoked them.
24:33
That game wasn't close for a second.
24:35
I, I think the Texans, like I was saying, I think the Texans
24:38
are as good as I've seen it since the 2000 Ravens.
24:42
They're fast off the ball. They've got 2 amazing pass
24:45
rushers they can get. They can get up the middle in
24:48
the gaps. I've I've seen it, they, they're
24:50
secondary so fast. They have 4 competent
24:54
linebackers. They can get at you in many
24:55
different ways. They can stop the tight ends.
24:58
They could do everything. This is by far the best defense
25:01
in football. Everybody was talking about the
25:02
Broncos this year. This is the fastest, this is the
25:05
youngest. And I'm going to tell you this
25:07
right now, the Texans are as dangerous as any team right now.
25:11
And and not because of their offense, because their offense
25:13
is up and down. It's because of this defense,
25:15
because they can take the ball away at any time of the game.
25:18
They hit hard, they're mean and they're fast off the ball.
25:22
I, I've not, I haven't seen a defense this good since those
25:25
Ravens teams, even better than the Legion of Boom.
25:28
Yes, when everybody talks about those Legion of Boom, those
25:31
Seattle Seahawks teams, this defense is better than that
25:34
defense. That's how fun and and the
25:36
Chiefs had done I, I, you could see it in Patrick Mahomes, his
25:39
face. It's over.
25:41
Go check out my story. It's a great story.
25:42
It's very, very funny. Kelsey looks like his knee is
25:47
not the same. I don't I I don't know if Kelsey
25:49
comes back next year. Why would he his his wife or his
25:52
fiance is on tour. He's enjoying themselves.
25:55
She's got a new documentary out, which he's in now.
25:57
Why does he need to play football anymore?
25:59
He's him and his wife are going to be making billions.
26:02
And as far as the Cowboys concerned, we were over there
26:04
with the beef at in we were. Across a deal park.
26:10
We were in Deer Park and we were having fun with, you know, Jamie
26:14
Lee and the beef and he was, it didn't matter when the the
26:17
Cowboys had a chance to win the game.
26:19
He was like no confidence whatsoever.
26:22
Dak did what he can. I think Dak had a sensational
26:25
game. It wasn't Dak's fault on why
26:27
they lost. It was the defense.
26:29
The defense could not stop a lick and you saw it.
26:32
And I'm going to tell you this right now, the Lions, they're
26:36
good when they want to be and they're bad when they want to be
26:39
as well. I, I, I don't know what Lion
26:40
team you're going to get. So I, this isn't the same Lions
26:44
with what Johnson there and Aaron Glenn.
26:47
But this is still a competent Lions team.
26:49
And, and if they could get into the playoffs, they're going to
26:52
'cause they could cause a lot of problems with Green Bay and all
26:55
the other teams that are going to get into the playoffs as
26:57
well. I mean, it's so wide open this
26:59
year. This might be the the most wide
27:01
open season and cut in football and NFL football we've ever
27:05
seen. Yeah, the Lions in offense at
27:07
its peak is very interesting because it's hyper efficient.
27:10
I know on the weekend crunch, when Chaz comes on and does
27:12
money like Mani, he actually presented A stat to like most
27:15
points per how many yards you score on a play.
27:17
And the Lions are leading the league in a while for it because
27:19
obviously they're scoring touchdowns and fast drives
27:22
pretty much. And then it started to
27:23
disappear. They fizzled out against the
27:24
Eagles and a couple other bad games, a bad game against the
27:27
Packers on Thanksgiving, and now they found their offensive
27:29
groove again. Dallas, yeah, they're battling
27:31
tough, but again, they just don't have the talent to live
27:33
out. And on the defensive side of the
27:34
ball, they're still young. Houston, you're right, is very
27:37
interesting because them and the Broncos, both of these elite
27:39
defenses with a lot of questions on offense that the Texans
27:41
offense I think is worse with their offensive line and run
27:43
game compared to the Broncos. But they're both pretty average.
27:46
So it'll be an interesting battle.
27:47
But I think the Texans have two, two game changing offensive
27:51
players. I don't.
27:53
I don't think the Broncos do. No, no, the Broncos probably
27:56
don't have one individual game changing offensive player.
27:58
I would say the best unit is their offensive line and it's
28:01
just been top five in the league all year.
28:02
Houston, their offensive line and fish you were talking about
28:04
was really bad at the beginning of the year.
28:05
Now it's kind of gotten a little better with some of the young
28:07
players that they have. But this defense definitely
28:09
championship caliber. Our all we discussed in the in
28:11
the before the show probably like the Bills, the Broncos, the
28:15
Texans on the top three in what order it it the Texans are maybe
28:18
creeping closer to two than we think and the Chiefs yeah, even
28:21
if they do win out like the Jaguars are winning now and.
28:23
I'm telling you right now, this is the best defense I've seen
28:26
since the 2000 Ravens. That's how good it is.
28:29
Yeah, the Chiefs, even if they win out, I think the Jaguars now
28:31
having the head to head tiebreaker, they're not going to
28:33
lose out. Like there's so many scenarios
28:34
that have to go right for them now.
28:35
I didn't think it would happen this way, but.
28:37
Yeah, D'amico Ryan's don't ever look scared, no matter what the
28:40
game transitions into, because he knows this defense is it's
28:43
going to stop everybody. He knows it.
28:45
He sees it. Ryan's, it wasn't for Vrabel and
28:49
maybe Ben Johnson. He'd be getting a lot more
28:52
attention for coach of the year because what he's doing over
28:55
there after how they started, they how he basically coached up
28:59
a team. It's just great coaching.
29:02
And that's what I see Like when teams get better throughout the
29:04
year and they haven't added talent, that's because the
29:07
talent has been coached up to become better players, at least
29:10
better players in the coaches system so that they're playing
29:13
well together so that they can execute as a unit.
29:17
And some teams you can get a bunch of talent and they don't
29:19
execute. Look at this team that even that
29:22
offensive line has a bunch of guys.
29:24
You don't even you never heard of their names.
29:26
They're killing it. That team is really good because
29:29
they're really well coached. Bryan's might be a top five
29:32
coach in this league and we didn't even realize until like.
29:35
A week ago. Let's get into the game that I
29:37
thought was the top game that we can.
29:39
Speaking of Ben Johnson, he didn't win this one, but it was
29:42
a really good game throughout if you got a chance to watch it.
29:45
The Packers beat the Bears on Sunday 28 to 21 in this one.
29:52
Jordan Love, 17 to 25234, three touchdowns and a pick.
29:59
He did not have any other fumbles.
30:01
Christian Watson, 4 catches, 89 yards, 2 touchdowns.
30:04
He continues to look like a #1 receiver since returning from
30:08
the injury. Jaden Reed made his return as
30:11
well in this game. Got a little, got his feet wet.
30:13
Josh Jacobs another solid game averaging over 4.2 yards of
30:17
carry like he does his entire career.
30:20
Kayla Williams was good on good for the Bears. 2 touchdowns, 186
30:24
yards, 19 and 35. Running game was OK, just wasn't
30:28
enough to beat this Green Bay gauntlet.
30:31
And look, Jordan Love makes some throws that you're just like,
30:36
nobody's really supposed to go to throw the ball and complete
30:38
it when they're standing flat footed looking one way and
30:41
throwing it to their right and they just looking the other way.
30:44
He makes some really silly throws and you're just like,
30:46
what is he doing? And then you realize this guy so
30:48
good at football, he makes up ways to throw the ball.
30:52
Jordan Loves really good. I will say this, Caleb Williams
30:55
looks really good too. His escape ability all game
30:59
long, making plays on the run. I, like I said, reminds me a lot
31:04
like Aaron Rodgers. This kid is going to have many,
31:07
many years of really developing and growing into that position.
31:11
And when he does with Ben Johnson, I think this guy is
31:13
going to be a lead. I think in two years he's going
31:15
to be the best quarterback in the league.
31:16
That's the type of player that he is.
31:18
Jordan Love is sensational. They've got weapons.
31:20
I think the main thought is Jaden Reed's return.
31:24
I I think he's going to change the offense.
31:25
Everybody keeps talking about Christian Watson, but they've
31:28
been craving Jaden Reed. And now that Jaden Reed is back,
31:31
he's one of the better, more underrated slot wide receivers
31:34
in the league. He's going to open up the field
31:36
for guys like Jacobs, four guys like Watson.
31:39
This offense is going to be completely different now that
31:42
Jaden Reed is back. The defense has been back and
31:45
forth. I don't know if Green Green
31:47
Bay's defense was at its top level.
31:49
As a matter of fact, they looked very tired in the fourth
31:52
quarter. I thought the the Bears really
31:54
got them tired the running game. I I think the Bears are as
31:57
dangerous as any team going into the playoffs this year.
32:00
They can run the ball, they can throw the ball.
32:02
I I still think they're trying to figure out who they're at,
32:05
what their identity is. I, these guys that first of all,
32:08
these guys are meeting each other in two weeks again, and
32:11
then they're probably going to meet in the playoffs again.
32:13
So they might meet three times this year.
32:16
So we're going to see a lot of great football.
32:19
Caleb Williams, Jordan Love, and this is going to be here for a
32:22
very, very long time. I, I, it's just, it's great
32:25
football. I, I, there's nothing more to
32:26
say about it. Just two great teams.
32:28
Yeah, the Bears were kind of shorthanded as it was obviously
32:31
like you're saying, fish. No do and say DJ Moore has been
32:33
bad much of the year and he was limited in that game even
32:35
against if he Packer secondary. But their offensive line still
32:39
trying to deal with a lot of the injuries they had had a tough
32:41
time with the edge rushing in that game.
32:43
It's interesting because you were talking about Jordan
32:45
Lovefish and I think the Bears secondary now getting their guys
32:47
back with John, with Jaylen Johnson and Kyler Gordon did
32:49
hold their own for it. They made those catches very
32:52
tough. But Jordan loved the way he was
32:53
able to extend plays. It looked like what you saw in
32:55
his rookie year at the end of the season when he played like
32:58
probably the third best quarterback in the NFL and
33:00
Jacobs just did well enough against a run defense.
33:02
It's still been kind of iffy this year with the Bears.
33:04
Right, let's move on to the next big game and this one, I just
33:09
couldn't take my eyes off of it. It did not disappoint.
33:12
The Bills outlasted the Bengals 39 to 34.
33:16
Again, in a different world, Joe Burrows not hurt and this game
33:20
actually matters in the AFC standings.
33:22
It doesn't cuz the Bengals are such a dumpster fire.
33:25
So good they decided to fight with Trey Hendrickson just for
33:28
him to play basically half a season for $30 million for them.
33:32
And I think their other kid didn't do anything the first
33:35
round pick. It's it's embarrassing that they
33:39
have no defense, especially when their offense is so electric.
33:43
Some of the stats in this game are just just eye popping.
33:46
Burrow hasn't looked like he missed a beat. 25362844TDS was
33:52
picked off twice on back-to-back plays.
33:55
The first one was a pick 6 by a defensive end and the next one
34:00
was deflected by the other defensive end and picked off by
34:03
a linebacker. That was the difference in the
34:04
game. The Bengals had the lead most of
34:07
the way in this game. Josh Allen though, just will not
34:10
be denied. 222, sorry. 22 of 28 for 251.
34:15
Three touchdowns. He had a 43 yard touchdown run
34:19
to win at 9 carries, 78 yards in that score.
34:23
James Cook almost blew it with a fumble and going into the end
34:27
zone. That was a big early turnover.
34:29
T Higgins happy to have Mr. Burrow back.
34:33
Six catches, 92 yards, 2 touchdowns.
34:36
Dalton Kincaid comes back to the Bills.
34:38
Makes a difference offensively. He scores as well.
34:42
This was Josh Allen's game. This was the game that really
34:46
gives you the reasons why Josh Allen can make a run for a Super
34:50
Bowl this year. For the all the ups and downs
34:52
for Buffalo all season long and the turmoil with the injury
34:56
threes and and all of that, this team still has a chance.
35:00
I mean, Lamar Jackson might not be going to the playoffs.
35:02
Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrow, these are three of the top five
35:06
player quarterbacks in all of the NFL and all three of these
35:09
guys aren't going to make it into the playoffs and they're
35:13
all in the AFC. This bodes well for Josh Allen,
35:16
who could be the best quarterback going into this
35:19
year's playoff in the AFCII. Just think that's what really
35:23
was the transition. It was what Josh Allen did in
35:26
the fourth quarter. He needed to make the plays.
35:27
He made it. The defense made some plays in
35:30
the open field. Joe Burrow made some mistakes.
35:33
It was snowing, it was cold. The ball was bouncy because it
35:37
was cold outside and and and again it all fell in into the
35:42
Buffalo Bills hands and and the fans hands.
35:45
I think the fans had a lot to do.
35:47
The loud fans, the you know, the credible fans that they always
35:51
are. And, and again, it's Josh Allens
35:53
house and you heard it after the game with Josh Allen said about
35:56
the fans. If if it's not our fans are the
35:59
best in the world, It's the it's the best playing in front of all
36:02
these fans really gives me a reason to want to play and want
36:05
to win for the the fan base. So it says a lot about the the
36:09
player that he is. Yeah, a couple of key, key
36:11
takeaways too. I think you look at like them
36:12
getting the tight ends of all the way they did.
36:14
Kincaid has been up and down with injuries so far this year.
36:16
Dawson Knox really hasn't been great since he signed that
36:19
contract. He's been a good blocker, but
36:21
not the same receiver. They got both of them going if
36:23
the Bills. That was Knox's best game.
36:25
Yeah. And if the Bills are going to
36:26
take that to get to that Super Bowl, which has always been just
36:29
holding back just a little bit, they have to try to get that
36:32
more involved because the receiving depth has been kind of
36:33
up and down throughout the year. And then then the Coleman thing,
36:36
they needed to find somebody that was going to fill in for
36:39
the reps for Coleman because I think Coleman's done.
36:41
I don't think you're going to see a lot of Coleman for the
36:43
rest of the year. So now you're seeing Knox and
36:46
something that we weren't seeing all season long and a lot of
36:50
fantasy people were dropping knocks when some people were
36:53
saying, hey, maybe Knox gets 700 or 600, 150 yards all season
36:58
long. Now at the tail end of the
37:00
season because of Coleman, you're seeing more knocks.
37:02
And now you saw Knox's best game this year under the Buffalo
37:07
Bill. So I I think that was what
37:08
really stood out offensively was was Knox.
37:11
Shifting to the defensive side of the ball, too, I, I mean, I
37:14
might not make schematically the Play of the week fish, but like
37:16
you're looking at a corner blitz that Christian Benford did to
37:18
turn that into an interception. The awareness that he had to do
37:21
that and then run it back for a touchdown was very impressive.
37:24
And then his coverage numbers against Jamar Chase were insane,
37:27
too. That was a big reason as much as
37:28
the Bengals scored 34 points, maybe the Bengals win that game.
37:31
If Jamar Chase even plays like normal to what he is.
37:34
And Bedford, there's a lot of credit.
37:35
The bill secondary's been shaky much of the year, but it's not
37:37
because of him. You know, I always love coaches
37:39
that are like, hey screw, let's just bring more guys in his face
37:43
so he can't see what he's supposed to do on the play and
37:46
just have him get rid of it quick.
37:47
You never know what can happen. It's like the old, like drive
37:51
the arrow. It's like the old, like go to
37:52
the net. You never know what could happen
37:54
in hockey. I love that too.
37:57
You know, it's it's like, kind of like simple.
37:59
I feel bad for Joe Burrell. I do, because we know how
38:03
special he is. He can't stay healthy.
38:05
And does the Bengals in the offseason look to move him?
38:08
I mean, there are stories coming out that there are teams.
38:12
I'm just saying there has been. And these aren't fake stories
38:16
because they're multiple writers have written that maybe the
38:20
Bengals look to move him in the offseason and get some draft
38:23
stock for him because they're not winning with him.
38:26
I'm just saying. If they well, they're not
38:27
winning because they didn't spend a single dollar.
38:29
I'm just saying that's what I've been reading.
38:31
Let's go through some games a little bit more quickly.
38:35
These were both in. Please.
38:36
Blowouts the Vikings 31 Commanders Nothing.
38:41
Jaden Daniels gets hurt again in this one.
38:44
Why is he playing terrible? Why is he playing?
38:46
I don't. Think we're going to see him
38:48
again after this one. They don't have a running back
38:53
offensive line. You know what, Speedy?
38:57
It took Bobby Johnson a year, but he sufficiently destroyed
39:00
that offense over there in Washington.
39:03
We knew he could do it. We knew that he was one of the
39:06
worst offensive line coaches. They still remembered how to
39:09
play from their coach the previous year.
39:11
Now that his system's fully in their brains, they can't block a
39:14
soul. So the Giant when the Giants
39:17
face the the. They should kick the you know
39:20
what out of them. If they beat the commanders,
39:24
that's why they're going to have the 1st overall pick.
39:26
Could you stop with this first overall happen?
39:28
You know what the problem? They're right now.
39:30
If it ended today, they'd have first.
39:32
Pick. Yeah, well, they also Robin.
39:34
Johnson to screw him out of. Here's the problem, and you
39:37
giant fans need to understand something.
39:39
Teams aren't going to just lose just so they get the number one
39:42
pick. It doesn't happen.
39:44
If that was the case, The Jets should lose every single game.
39:46
They're not going to do that. I think I think you're right.
39:49
I think the commanders are freaking terrible right now.
39:51
And the. Giants and the Giants are better
39:52
than Vegas, too. They're better than Vegas, too.
39:55
They should win both those games.
39:56
The Giants should win both those games.
39:59
The Giants theoretically should have if they win those two
40:03
games, In the five games they should have won earlier this
40:05
season, they should have been a nine win.
40:07
Team. Yeah, they should have been.
40:08
Vying for the playoffs? What a fantasyland.
40:11
Banana land. Banana land.
40:13
Well. That's Jeff.
40:14
Banana land. That's Jeff.
40:15
There. No, we had the banana.
40:16
The other game was the Seahawks. I mean the Falcons urge Kirk
40:20
Cousins is done. I think that's pretty clear.
40:22
The Seahawks killed them. Sam Darnold 20 and 33
40:26
touchdowns, 2 of them the JSN. 7 catches, 92 yards, 2 touchdowns.
40:32
But like unstopped Cooper Cup had a touchdown.
40:35
Not even close. This team is a force to be
40:38
reckoned with men. Not really.
40:42
I I mean, obviously Seattle is a force to be reckoned with and
40:45
and again, the Commanders look like a shell of himself.
40:48
This is the same Commander's team that went to an NFC title
40:51
game against Philadelphia last year and now they're not even
40:55
going to come close to the playoffs and they could be a top
40:57
ten pick. It's crazy how everything can
41:01
change in one year with the NFL. It's the only sport how one team
41:05
could be one of the best teams and fall out so quick the year
41:09
after. It's unbelief.
41:10
Absolutely incredible. Yeah, it's even more so in the
41:13
NFC too. Like AFC is a little more parody
41:15
this year than it usually does, but usually it's usually a lot
41:17
of the same repetitive team. But the NFC this year, when you
41:20
look at the Vikings, Vikings were a 14 win team.
41:22
Could you remember honestly, and I don't, we don't need you to go
41:25
over and over and over again with the statistics, speed.
41:28
Could you remember a time where it is so wide open, where you
41:31
really can't make a prediction who's going to the Super Bowl
41:35
and who's winning the Super Bowl?
41:36
Yeah, it was probably like the last one I would have thought of
41:39
was probably 2015 when you look at that was the Broncos,
41:41
Panthers, Super Bowl. The Panthers were all banged up
41:43
that year, and the Broncos had no offense.
41:45
I mean, if you look at the NFC right now, I mean, you know
41:47
who's good, but are, are you going to bet on those guys?
41:50
Are you going to bet on the Rams after losing against Carolina?
41:52
You're going to bet on Seattle? They're a young team.
41:55
I, I don't know, I, I, I, I can't bet on any of these teams.
41:59
And in the AFC, forget about it. I'm not betting on any of those
42:02
teams. Yeah, and that's why I talk
42:03
about the turnover, too. Like Washington, maybe they were
42:06
played over their heads last year, but they came back down to
42:08
earth and Seattle was kind of unlucky to an extent last.
42:11
And if India, if Indianapolis is looking for a quarterback, I'd
42:15
be reaching right now, right now to Atlanta and trying to get
42:19
Kirk Cousins because that would make more sense than the garbage
42:22
that we're hearing. They can.
42:24
They need them for next year. Pendix ain't playing next year
42:26
either. Well, I.
42:27
We have been too late. But Kirk Cousins is not going to
42:29
be there next year either, so. I think they're going to keep
42:32
them there because they have them under contract.
42:34
I think he is guaranteed money sweetie.
42:35
Yeah, they might. They might be just like stuck
42:37
just predicament why I? Think they're screwed because
42:39
they're stupid, but that's a whole another story.
42:42
But. He tastes himself.
42:44
Here's some teams that these three games were stupid.
42:47
The the Cardinals. I mean, I think Gannon's done.
42:50
That team is a disaster. Kyler Murray's out for the
42:53
season for sets. Fine, I guess if you want a guy
42:56
who's going to put up stats on a team that doesn't win, the Rams
42:59
are just awesome. Some numbers in that game.
43:03
Blake Forum helping me win fantasy on a week that all my
43:06
running backs were on by weeks. Blake Corum, listen to this.
43:10
The the Michigan champion 12 carries, 128 yards, 2
43:14
touchdowns. Karen Williams, 13 carries, A1
43:17
more carry, 84 yards and a touchdown for him.
43:20
Just killing them on the ground. And if that wasn't bad enough,
43:23
Puka Nakua 7 for 167 and two touchdowns.
43:27
They could do it all. Man, that team is awesome.
43:30
The other two games, do we even really need to talk about them?
43:33
Daniel Jones tore his Achilles. I saw it happen.
43:37
I said it in our group chat as soon as it happened, he just
43:40
kind of threw his helmet down. But it was the other foot, so he
43:43
had the broken fibula on one leg and then he tears the Achilles
43:48
on the other. Just can't keep himself healthy.
43:51
Unfortunately. That guy he was doing to make a
43:53
bunch of money, now he's not going to make that money.
43:56
Sucks for him and The Jets. Brady Cook somehow ended up
43:59
playing because tie rods made of plastic apparently, and the
44:04
Dolphins murdered them. Dolphins are one win away from
44:07
500. Well, I will say this, Brady
44:09
Cook will be the starting quarterback moving forward for
44:12
the rest of the season. You will not see Justin Fields.
44:15
He will back him up. Tyrod Taylor should be done.
44:18
I mean, the hamstring four games left.
44:20
Why bring Tyrod Taylor back? I I don't think we're going to
44:23
see Tyrod. So I think it's going to be
44:26
Cook. I think The Jets are going to
44:27
ride with that for the rest of the season.
44:29
So and the Dolphins, you got to give McDaniel a little bit of
44:32
credit. Everybody was counting him out.
44:33
And this team slowly but surely is moving and and and might even
44:37
make the playoffs. As crazy as it may may seem,
44:40
they still on the they're on the cusp of possibly making the
44:43
playoffs. So it's an incredible story.
44:46
You lost Tyree kill or you traded away pieces at the trade
44:50
deadline and you're still in the conversation.
44:52
I've always liked McDaniel. I love that little mighty mouse
44:56
and I love everything about him. So I root him on every single
44:59
time. I think he's a hell of a coach
45:01
as far as the Rams are concerned, I expect him to be
45:03
the favorites to come out of the NFC.
45:05
Watching the Eagles in this game just tell me a lot and Justin
45:08
Fields, I mean, Justin Herbert looks like he's he's dealing
45:11
with a pain, but the Eagles are shell of what they were last
45:14
year. I, I'm going to tell you if the
45:15
Eagles lose this game, I, I know everybody keeps saying that the,
45:19
the Cowboys are done. I, I wouldn't say so the Eagles,
45:22
the Eagles have not looked good after for the last four weeks.
45:25
So I don't know as far as the Jaguars are concerned, the
45:30
Jaguars have played a lot better than I thought they were going
45:33
to be this year and they might make the playoffs.
45:34
They should make the playoffs. They's going to make the
45:36
playoffs because the AFC is so bad.
45:38
But I don't think they won the division.
45:39
I think the Texans are a better team.
45:41
They bought, they beat the Colts.
45:43
They lost. They they lost Daniel Jones
45:45
early in the game. I the Colts put up a fight, but
45:48
I think the Colts are done. They don't have a quarterback
45:50
now. They're going to depend too much
45:52
on their running game and Jonathan Taylor.
45:53
I think they're done. And I, The Jets might get
45:56
themselves a gem. They might get a they went from
45:59
maybe getting a pick at in the 30s or maybe the late 20s to
46:03
maybe a teens pick for Sauce Garner this year.
46:06
I mean, that's pretty good for the New York Jets.
46:08
Yeah, you definitely have to believe that because he's hurt
46:10
right now too. Sauce Garner.
46:12
And then we got Jonathan Taylor getting really worn down.
46:14
He hasn't really been the same since his bye week outside of
46:16
the Atlanta game and the no quarterback situation.
46:19
Yeah, I would believe in the Colts or don't.
46:20
I agree with you on the Texas. I trust him to win the division
46:22
more than the Jaguars. Miami.
46:24
You're right. Mike McDaniel will stay at this
46:25
point. Just hope to find out.
46:27
You hope to just find a confident GM because Chris Greer
46:29
was really running himself out of town and the Rams best team
46:31
in football, Cardinals, they're a.
46:32
Mess. I'll take Mike McDaniel any day,
46:35
any day as my offensive corner. Errol the Colts, man, it goes
46:40
from like the penthouse to the outhouse.
46:43
You realize they're working out 44 year old Bill of River.
46:46
Yeah, I know. Come.
46:47
Back as Riley Leonard is week to week with an.
46:49
End Yeah, he should have been on our show.
46:51
So they don't people, you know, maybe it would have saved.
46:55
His dobber in the. Dirt care for him, but they
46:58
don't got Anthony Richardson apparently isn't ready from
47:01
whatever surgery or brain surgery or whatever the hell
47:04
happened to that guy. Riley Leonards out, Daniel Jones
47:08
is out. Who are you putting a
47:10
quarterback? I mean, I think Tommy Cutlets,
47:13
they paid him to back up over there.
47:15
So you can't just find Cutlets just anywhere.
47:17
Indiana. That's that's why I.
47:19
Mean Mike White's available. As a brother, is there like an
47:21
older Mendoza brother or uncle we can get?
47:24
Over actually, Mendoza's brother is a quarterback that's going to
47:28
be taking over the quarterback reigns in Indiana after he goes
47:31
Yeah, he. Came in after the first place,
47:33
so Mendoza got lit up on the first play of the game, and then
47:36
they bring in the backup and it's like mini Doza.
47:39
Yeah, it's just like a mini. Mini looks just like him, looks
47:41
just like him looks. Similar to like Tua and baby Tua
47:46
when they were. Identical.
47:47
Identical. They really are.
47:50
All right, let's move forwards into this one, into two games
47:54
that really don't matter that much.
47:56
But I mean, the Bucks were upset by the Saints, which is
47:59
fascinating. Tyler Shuck played pretty well
48:02
in that game. He did look good.
48:04
He did look good. You.
48:05
Know at times, you know, like for him I guess.
48:08
Looks better than Chador. Well, I I would disagree with
48:12
that. You know, based off at least
48:14
that Shuck. Only 13 to 2144 in a pick, but
48:18
he ran for two touchdowns and he had a gutsy 5070.
48:21
Carries 55. Yards.
48:23
What's going on with the Bucks, man?
48:25
It's it's weird. The Bucks defense is shot and
48:28
their offense, you know, was just not really banging on all
48:32
cylinders. It took a while, but Abuka
48:34
doesn't look good. They're not like they're just
48:38
not either. Guys aren't open.
48:40
They say Evans might come back on Thursday.
48:41
They have a Thursday game. Oh, is he so?
48:44
They'll be they'll be for them. Bucky Irving's back but not
48:48
looking great yet. Thanks.
48:49
Just a banged up team this year. Tampa.
48:51
But the big story was the Titans get the SEC their second win of
48:56
the season. Cam Ward still look terrible.
48:59
They had two touchdown passes, 14 of 28117 and a pick.
49:04
Tony Pollard had a throwback game, 161 and two touchdowns on
49:09
the ground hit 2 long runs. But Chador in the loss and they
49:14
they lost because their coach went he had like the worst two
49:17
point play I've ever seen. Took Chador off the field for
49:20
that. Chador went 23 of 42.
49:22
Not great, but 364. Three touchdowns in a pick and
49:27
three carries for 29 yards and a rushing touchdown.
49:30
Who cares? Pretty darn good numbers stop 44
49:34
yards and a touchdown for the for these he.
49:36
Played the Titans. He played the Titans.
49:40
Stop this, Garb it. Is against the worst team in the
49:42
league stop. But apparently the Browns might
49:44
be right up there for the worst team in the league.
49:46
The only big news as far as positive stuff for the Browns I
49:50
would say. Besides, Shidor might not be the
49:52
worst quarterback in the league is Miles Garrett got his 20th
49:56
set in the game, and he's closing in on the NFL record of
50:01
22 and. 1/2 he's going to break it.
50:03
There's no question he's going to break it.
50:05
There's four games left he's absolutely going to break.
50:07
He'll probably break it in the next game.
50:10
As far as shudor Sanders and his numbers aren't so bad, it was
50:15
against the Titans. The Titans are not a good team.
50:18
Cam Ward I'm I'm interested to see what the Titans are going to
50:22
do in this year's draft. I know they drafted Cam Ward at
50:25
one do they might, maybe they might draft if they're sitting
50:29
there at three or two. Maybe they draft another
50:32
quarterback and then they trade Cam Ward in the offseason if
50:36
they think somebody is better than he is.
50:38
I don't know. But Cam Ward has not looked good
50:40
this year. He really hasn't.
50:42
So I don't know. I'm not going to say that to
50:44
Quinton Jammer. I don't want him to jump out of
50:46
his bands because I know it's his cousin.
50:48
So, but that's pretty funny, actually.
50:50
But yeah. And as far as the Saints are
50:52
concerned, I, I, I don't know what's going on with the Bucks,
50:55
but if Mike Evans is coming back, it's good for me in my
50:58
fantasy league. So I'll, I'll take it.
51:00
Yeah, bad for me in my fantasy league.
51:02
It's what you describe, Fischick, Buka, only nothing
51:04
disappearing. Baker Mayfield really not
51:06
looking like himself since he's come back from his injury.
51:08
And the offensive line really hasn't been following their own
51:11
either. And the running game, which I
51:13
know you were worried about a few weeks ago, Arrow actually
51:15
got it going in that game. But the passing game really
51:17
couldn't in the defense, struggling on.
51:19
So the Saints have been pesky this year at certain points
51:21
against some good teams. So interesting.
51:23
Tony Pollard was also on my bench for the Titans, and he got
51:26
28 points. And yeah, yeah, I think he only
51:28
got 13 all season. Those both those teams look
51:30
really bad right now. Like Miles Garrett.
51:32
Yeah, he should break it I think with 25 sacks at least.
51:36
Well, we'll see. We have one more set of games
51:39
left guys, and these were some good ones.
51:42
Steelers outlasted the Ravens controversial pull in that game
51:46
on a touchdown that was taken away from the Ravens looked like
51:49
likely had two feet down in the end zone with possession of the
51:52
ball on the third step, the defender knocks it out of his
51:55
hand. They say it was not a catch.
51:58
Tony Romo was literally explaining why it was a catch on
52:01
television as they were saying it was not a catch.
52:06
So, and Harbaugh today, John Harbaugh said that there's it's
52:12
as clear as mud what a catch is in today's NFL.
52:15
That's his quote. And then the Broncos again with
52:18
another unimpressive win against a crap team 24 to 17 over the
52:25
Raiders. Statistically, RJ Harvey seems
52:29
to be picking up right where Dobbins left off 75 yards and a
52:33
touchdown on the ground there, but really, nothing to write
52:37
home about. Bone Knicks just took what they
52:39
gave them 31 of 38 for only 212 yards.
52:43
That's a lot of dinking and Duncan, dude.
52:46
Yeah, here's what I'm going to say.
52:49
The Ravens are done. I think they're done.
52:51
The Steelers are going to win the division just because I I
52:54
don't know what's Lamar Jackson isn't healthy and that really
52:58
from one of the great defenses we've seen for a very, very long
53:01
time to being one of the worst defenses in the league this
53:04
year. It makes absolutely no sense
53:06
what happened to the Ravens this year.
53:08
And honestly, John Harbaugh should be on the hot seat,
53:11
absolutely should be on the hot seat right now after the season
53:14
as far as the Broncos are concerned with the Raiders.
53:17
The Broncos have been squeezing these wins out, squeezing.
53:22
And they obviously look better than the Raiders.
53:25
But the Broncos, if they don't put up, they don't start to put
53:29
up points and they depend too much on their defense, they're
53:32
going to have problems in the playoffs against these elite
53:34
teams, these better AFC teams. Because when you're giving the
53:38
Raiders an opportunity to stay in a game, it it kind of worries
53:41
you as a team that's competing for a Super Bowl.
53:45
Yeah, you wonder too, like sometimes they were dominating
53:47
for 3/4 and sometimes you see them, they get too conservative.
53:50
Sean Payton, we saw that at the end of this time with the Saints
53:52
too. Sometimes got got a little too
53:54
conservative with Drew Brees. They can't have that kind of
53:56
approach in the playoffs. They looked like they were
53:58
dominating for a while. Again, they still might be the
54:00
second or third best team in the AFC right now with the Bills, I
54:02
think with the Texans right now. But again, they are not going to
54:05
get there if they don't have an above average offense.
54:08
The Ravens, I fished it. I mean, you mentioned it.
54:10
I do think that should have been a touchdown.
54:12
Now the Steelers might have came back and drove the field too,
54:14
but I want I thought it was a bad call and I just annoying
54:17
when the referees decide these games.
54:18
But these two teams are both very ugly.
54:20
Whoever wins the division, it's going to be the fourth seed and
54:22
goes nowhere in the playoffs. Well, that's the whip around as
54:26
is just happening. The Eagles just took the lead on
54:29
a trick play pitch to Saquon. Yippie touchdown Skippy Saquon
54:34
Barkley finally putting up points.
54:37
What a travesty. What has happened to him this
54:39
year. And if you're a fantasy owner,
54:42
my God, everybody in fantasy was drafting him either first,
54:47
second or third. And Saquon Barkley's numbers to
54:50
guys like Bijon Robinson and all the other guys that was drafting
54:53
in front of him, just absolutely horrible.
54:56
I, if you're a fantasy owner, you should be very upset at
54:59
yourself drafting Saquon Barkley.
55:02
That's all. That's just my opinion.
55:04
And I love Saquon. I wish him nothing but the best,
55:06
but it's just horrible to see what's going on with the
55:09
Philadelphia Eagles. And I'm an Eagles fan, so I, I
55:11
don't, I don't like the way the Eagles have used them this year.
55:14
Their offensive coordinator is going to be fired.
55:16
And it shows you how important Moore was for that run last
55:20
year. He he's a lot better offensive
55:22
coordinator than people thought he was.
55:24
And, and you can see the difference of the way their
55:26
offense is being run this year. And you can see A.J.
55:28
Brown not happy. Saquon's happy right now.
55:30
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56:17
We're moving it to Thursday and and and by the way, in a new
56:20
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56:25
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56:27
Wednesday, we're spreading it out because the content will be
56:30
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56:35
who do we have on on Thursday all.
56:37
Right. Joining the show for the first
56:38
time on Thursday is Matt Gage at 9:00.
56:40
He is a relief pitcher currently with the San Francisco Giants.
56:43
He's played four years in Major League Baseball, played with the
56:46
Tigers and the Giants last year, also played with the Blue Jays
56:48
and the Astros in the past. In 2024, he was also briefly in
56:51
the Yankees farm system as well, as well as the Dodgers.
56:53
So he'll be joining us at 9:00. There you go, ladies and
56:56
gentlemen, if you're a baseball fan.
56:58
If you're not well, TuneIn to Matt Gage, we will go back and
57:02
forth. We'll banter a little bit about
57:03
baseball, his thoughts about San Francisco.
57:06
Do they land a big time free agent this offseason, maybe a
57:10
Pete Alonzo, who knows? Winter meetings are about to
57:14
begin, so I'm sure we're going to hear a lot from Brian Hoke
57:18
when he comes on the show as well.
57:19
So again, thank you to all the fans.
57:21
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57:24
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57:28
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