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Domonique Foxworth on Jalen Hurts OUT, The absurd Brian Flores report, Cowboys in Crisis | 10.15 · The Right Time with Bomani Jones

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  Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to the right time.
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  Speaker 2: We got Dominique Foxworth on right after this. After we
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  Speaker 2: had taped, we got the news that Jalen Hurts is
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  Speaker 2: going to be out this week playing against the Panthers.
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  Speaker 2: That's who they're playing against. We thought they was going
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  Speaker 2: to lose anyway, but he has, Ryan, it's called a
• 0:21
  Speaker 2: superficial blood clot.
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  Speaker 3: Superficial blood clot in his calf. All right.
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  Speaker 1: I don't really know what that means. I just know, man,
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  Speaker 1: they are cooked, Jack.
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  Speaker 3: They're cooked. Potentially no Jalen Hurts. No Jalen Hurts. Jalen
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  Speaker 3: Hurts is out. Potentially no Devonta Smith and Saquon Barkley
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  Speaker 3: this week.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and Landon Dickerson. Is he back?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I know he said something about how they
• 0:40
  Speaker 2: need to go talk to Howie and Nick about his contract.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Lane Johnson on the roster, even though he said
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  Speaker 3: he retired.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we got that situation.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, man, along with everybody else being hurt in some
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  Speaker 2: form or fashion with that team. So how funny would
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  Speaker 2: it be if the Eagles won? Like we're saying they're cooked.
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  Speaker 2: Can you imagine how much it would suck to be
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  Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts? Who is that they bring it out? Is
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  Speaker 2: that Tanner McKee?
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  Speaker 3: It is Tanner McKee.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The name Tanner McKee sounds like 13 for 29 for
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  Speaker 2: 111 yards with a touchdown and three interceptions. There's a
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  Speaker 2: classic backup quarterback line. That's what he's got there. They're
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  Speaker 2: having a rough year, man.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's all we got. That's it.
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  Speaker 3: Damn.
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  Speaker 1: Just wanted to make sure you guys knew that we
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  Speaker 1: knew that Jalen Hurts was....
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  Speaker 2: My name is Beaumontie Jones. Thanks for listening wherever you
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  Speaker 2: give us four stars. I'm inclined to believe you are
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  Speaker 2: a hater. It is Fox Word Friday somewhere. Dominique Fosworth,
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  Speaker 2: what's going on?
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  Speaker 1: What's up, brother?
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  Speaker 2: Yo, shout out to whoever, I forget who it was
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  Speaker 2: that cooked that one up, but that was a winner.
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  Speaker 1: It's Fosworth Friday somewhere. We get to retain the alliteration
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  Speaker 1: while also being a little clever and cheeky. You know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 4: Where is it Friday, though?
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  Speaker 2: That is a great question that I will now ask
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  Speaker 2: the computer.
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  Speaker 1: Where is it Friday?
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  Speaker 4: Because somebody, there is a country somewhere that is still
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  Speaker 4: experiencing this, and it's.
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  Speaker 1: Like, why is he saying it's not Friday?
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  Speaker 2: I will say this, that if I'm not mistaken, at
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  Speaker 2: this moment, it's like 11.30 p.m. in Vietnam, but it
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  Speaker 2: says that right now it is Friday in.
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  Speaker 2: The eastern part of Australia, New Zealand, some of Russia,
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  Speaker 2: and some of them little islands like Fiji.
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  Speaker 1: And when you release this, it'll be Friday more places.
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  Speaker 1: That's right. It'll be Friday more. I think we need
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  Speaker 1: to recommit. Right.
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  Speaker 2: It's Foxworth Friday in Asia. That's what it is. We
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  Speaker 2: got y'all out. Thank you for saving our country. You
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  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying? All you boys over there in Okinawa,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying? Over there in Korea, making
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  Speaker 2: sure that nobody step too far over the line.
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  Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying? Yeah, they holding down that DMZ.
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  Speaker 2: Hold it down.
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  Speaker 1: That's right. That's right. Shout out.
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  Speaker 2: No, I was going to say shout out to somebody
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  Speaker 2: that it don't even really apply to.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we got to educate ourselves a little more on
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  Speaker 4: all of that.
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  Speaker 1: I got to be a little closer. Shout out to me,
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  Speaker 1: the cops.
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  Speaker 4: There we go.
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  Speaker 1: There we go. There we go. I was about to
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  Speaker 1: say they all be on soccer, but I'm like, nope, nope, nope, nope.
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  Speaker 1: They met in school. And they met in school. Like,
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  Speaker 1: Japanese could have worked. We'd be over there, too.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You know?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, after we told them y'all can't have no army,
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  Speaker 2: the least you could do is let them borrow yours.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I guess when you drop an atomic bomb
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  Speaker 4: on somebody, they got to agree to whatever. Hold on.
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  Speaker 5: Hold on.
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  Speaker 1: Dominique.
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  Speaker 4: Two of them.
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  Speaker 1: Two Atomic Bombs.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: I apologize.
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  Speaker 2: Fuck.
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  Speaker 1: That shit's crazy. That really is crazy to look back on.
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  Speaker 1: They were like, whoa, that was crazy. Get the big one. That.
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  Speaker 4: Who.
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  Speaker 1: We got football coming up.
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  Speaker 4: We do.
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  Speaker 1: We do. And we're going to talk about the upcoming football.
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  Speaker 2: But it's a couple of football things that have happened
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  Speaker 2: this week that I want to talk about. And the
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  Speaker 2: first one is one that I haven't seen that many
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  Speaker 2: people talk about on television this week.
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  Speaker 1: And it's kind of a big one.
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  Speaker 2: And it is these documents that got leaked from the
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  Speaker 2: Brian Flores lawsuit. Now.
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  Speaker 1: You and I have talked about this. I say it
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  Speaker 1: on here.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to say it's complicated for me in
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  Speaker 2: real life, but there is like a bottom line for me,
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  Speaker 2: which is I don't care what they come up with.
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  Speaker 1: I would not hire Brian Flores under any circumstance. However,
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  Speaker 1: somebody would.
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  Speaker 2: One would think in theory he's really, really good at
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  Speaker 2: being the head coach of the defense right now. They
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  Speaker 2: won more games in Miami than anybody would have expected, right?
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  Speaker 2: It's reasonable that somebody, even if he is a big
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  Speaker 2: old jerk, pop up with the allegations of the schism.
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  Speaker 2: And then we got some schism paperwork. And this is
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  Speaker 2: the part that jumped out of this memo.
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  Speaker 1: And it was from a search firm.
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  Speaker 2: The search firm was working for the Raiders as they
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  Speaker 2: were evaluating Flores. Obviously, the Raiders did not hire him
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  Speaker 2: to be their head coach. And this is what it says.
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  Speaker 2: Polished and a good presenter. despite growing up in Brownsville, Brooklyn, parentheses,
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  Speaker 2: same as Mike Tyson. He was able to build a
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  Speaker 2: strong friendship with a billionaire son, which gave him opportunities
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  Speaker 2: to socialize and learn how to build relationships with white-collar
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  Speaker 2: and upper-class individuals. Okay, I have a couple of points
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  Speaker 2: to make on that part. Number one, it is amazing
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  Speaker 2: how phrasing And people trusting you can allow you to
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  Speaker 2: say certain things. Because one of the things that I
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  Speaker 2: absolutely pointed out about Flores when this lawsuit came down,
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  Speaker 2: and this is something you don't really catch until you
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  Speaker 2: live here for a while, which is these boys wind
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  Speaker 2: up going to these private schools. And you never know
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  Speaker 2: what friends they have. You never know what game they
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  Speaker 2: managed to pick up. They know somebody like Brian Flores,
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  Speaker 2: who I think went to poly prep. He knows some people,
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  Speaker 2: and he figured out some things, right? However, this right
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  Speaker 2: here doesn't sound no different than when Danny Ferry said
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  Speaker 2: Luol Deng had a lot of African in him still, right?
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  Speaker 2: Which is to say, these cats was like, hey, hey, hey,
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  Speaker 2: he talk a good game, but don't get it twisted.
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  Speaker 1: He still wanted him.
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  Speaker 2: And that is, why would you write that down? Danny
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  Speaker 2: Ferry didn't even.
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  Speaker 1: Write it down. Somebody was taping him, and he didn't
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  Speaker 1: even know it.
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  Speaker 4: I have... There's so many things that jump out from
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  Speaker 4: this to me. I don't even know where to start,
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  Speaker 4: but obviously... None of this stuff is surprising except for
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  Speaker 4: that they wrote it down. And because like the unique
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  Speaker 4: experience and I know we we have this belief that
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  Speaker 4: anybody can make it to anywhere from in America. And
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  Speaker 4: it's but it's still really rare to jump the socioeconomic
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  Speaker 4: the number of socioeconomic classes.
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  Speaker 1: As I have or have.
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  Speaker 4: Or other like athletes and entertainers and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 4: Like climbing the ladder is not a thing that really happens.
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  Speaker 4: Like you don't, you don't do the Calvin where you,
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  Speaker 4: you first are cooking fries and next thing you know, you,
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  Speaker 4: you own a bunch of franchises.
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  Speaker 1: Like that's not, it happens, but it's not something that
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  Speaker 1: happens regularly. Now I'm washing lettuce. Yeah. I say, was
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  Speaker 1: it Calvin? I think it was Calvin.
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  Speaker 2: Calvin was the McDonald's commercial, but Coming to America, which,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, let you know what happens to the
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  Speaker 2: white dudes, too. I started off on floors just like you.
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  Speaker 2: Now I'm washing lettuce.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's a... It happens to white dudes, too,
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  Speaker 1: is a good thing.
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  Speaker 4: Because, like, I... I feel like I have learned so
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  Speaker 4: much about the way things actually work because I believe
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  Speaker 4: I was like naive and the.
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  Speaker 1: Whole hard work, work your way up bootstraps.
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  Speaker 4: Like I wasn't someone who would preach that, but I
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  Speaker 4: was like naive to believe that it was possible because
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  Speaker 4: like my unique experience. And then I got older and
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  Speaker 4: looked around and was like, no matter how hard anybody worked,
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  Speaker 4: they couldn't have done what I did unless they were
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  Speaker 4: bored with some of the things that I had.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And then once I like get out of school or
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  Speaker 4: get out of football and go to business school and
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  Speaker 4: then get out into the professional world, I start to
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  Speaker 4: realize how important relationships are, which prior to that, because
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  Speaker 4: I grew up in football, I'm like the best man.
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  Speaker 1: You just got to be good.
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  Speaker 4: Like, yeah, there's some politics, but if you can run
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  Speaker 4: a full three, they're going to find you and somebody
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  Speaker 4: going to give you a check.
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  Speaker 1: Like, right.
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  Speaker 4: And then you learn about all this other stuff and
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  Speaker 4: then they put it normally.
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  Speaker 1: No one says it explicitly.
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  Speaker 4: But that line is something that a lot of people
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  Speaker 4: live by and think about and care about is like,
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  Speaker 4: all right. Essentially, what they're saying is he wanted them,
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  Speaker 4: but he know how to act right. Yeah. Right.
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  Speaker 1: But I guess.
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  Speaker 2: But actually, is it he's one of them, but he
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  Speaker 2: knows how to act right or he knows how to
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  Speaker 2: act right?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. But he's one of them.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I took it as the latter.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 1: But I guess my point is that stuff always exists.
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  Speaker 1: You don't put it in writing.
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  Speaker 4: And, you know, if you understand, because I feel like
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  Speaker 4: I look back on a lot of conversations I had
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  Speaker 4: in my life and people were speaking a different language
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  Speaker 4: than I understood. If you understand a language, someone will
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  Speaker 4: make it clear to you that he wanted him. but
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  Speaker 4: he know how to act or he know how to
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  Speaker 4: act but he wanted them they'll make it clear to
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  Speaker 4: you it's some other terminology that's not.
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  Speaker 6: As explicit as that they're like even despite being from
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  Speaker 6: brownsville and then the wording like are you saying that
• 9:49
  Speaker 6: mike tyson is from brownsville or mike tyson know how
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  Speaker 6: to act it's a little confusing.
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  Speaker 2: So i will also make a point that they got
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  Speaker 2: one of the people from the Dolphins and this is
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  Speaker 2: where I think it's going to get the Dolphins in
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  Speaker 2: trouble is the dude that was like he's the worst
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  Speaker 2: hire we ever made or one of the worst hires
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  Speaker 2: that we ever made which I don't think you're allowed
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  Speaker 2: to tell people when they call you about a job
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  Speaker 2: like it doesn't matter if it's true you're just supposed
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  Speaker 2: to be like hey man I don't even know what
• 10:15
  Speaker 2: to tell you big dog you're not supposed to say
• 10:18
  Speaker 2: that part I will say though it seemed that did
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  Speaker 2: not seem like they were saying that because he was black.
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  Speaker 2: It sounded like they were saying that because they really
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  Speaker 2: didn't like him. Omar Kelly from Miami Herald, he's been
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  Speaker 2: very clear about this on Twitter. He's like, hey, man,
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  Speaker 2: he doesn't know how to talk to people. That seems
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  Speaker 2: to be his issue is he doesn't know how to
• 10:38
  Speaker 2: talk to people. But I would like to take a
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  Speaker 2: brief moment to say this about Brownsville, Brooklyn. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if you have ever looked at the notable people
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  Speaker 2: section for Brownsville, Brooklyn, but there are very few things
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  Speaker 2: that are more entertaining to me Then when you go
• 10:51
  Speaker 2: to the notable peoples of a place that clearly experience
• 10:55
  Speaker 2: a measure of white flight, like it's like Aliquippa, Pennsylvania,
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  Speaker 2: where Mike Ditka and Pistol Pete were from. But so
• 11:01
  Speaker 2: was Darrell Rivas and Sean Gilbert, Tony Dorsett, all those guys.
• 11:05
  Speaker 2: And you can kind of go through and peep the day.
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  Speaker 2: This is listed in alphabetical order. So I am just
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  Speaker 2: going to just rattle off names to you from Brownsville, Brooklyn,
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  Speaker 2: and let you know. A documentary on Brownsville, Brooklyn might
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  Speaker 2: be totally fascinating. For those of you who don't know,
• 11:21
  Speaker 2: you may hear a lot about gentrification in Brooklyn. Maybe
• 11:24
  Speaker 2: they got to Brownsville. I find it highly unlikely. That's
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  Speaker 2: where M.O.P. is from, that is where Mike Tyson's from.
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  Speaker 2: You get to East New York, like you get to
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  Speaker 2: the Eddie Up All-Stars out there.
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  Speaker 1: It's way out there. Here are the people that Brownsville,
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  Speaker 1: Brooklyn has produced, going somewhat in alphabetical order, because I
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  Speaker 1: would not have started this list with Master Ace, but
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  Speaker 1: I guess they think that Ace is Master Ace's last name,
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  Speaker 1: so it starts with Master Ace. Master Ace. Born to roll,
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  Speaker 1: Master Ace, just for those who don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Lyle Alzado. Mayor Eric Adams. Riddick Bowe. Shannon Briggs. Andrew
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  Speaker 2: Dice Clay.
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  Speaker 1: We weren't expecting that one, were you? Five-ish Finkel from
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  Speaker 1: the television show Picket Fences. Brian Flores. John Forte, former,
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  Speaker 1: used to rap with the Fugees.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And, you know, did a little time.
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  Speaker 2: But another one of those guys, because if I'm not mistaken,
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  Speaker 2: it was Carly Simon who bailed him out of jail
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  Speaker 2: because he went to prep school with her kids. Told you,
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  Speaker 2: the New York dudes, man, you never know. World Be Free.
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  Speaker 2: Nelson George. Marty Glickman. Arnold Greenberg, the co-founder of Snapple.
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  Speaker 2: Henry Hill. Of Goodfellas fame.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Red Holzman. Moe, Curly, and Shemp. But not Larry.
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  Speaker 1: Of the Three Stooges. Zab Judah. Oh, they got a
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: lot of fighters. Well, that should tell you something. Big
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  Speaker 1: Daddy Kane. This is why they scared Brian Flores.
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  Speaker 2: Big Daddy Kane. Larry King. Meyer Lansky. And yes, we're
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  Speaker 2: only at the L's. M.O.P., O.G.C., Helter Skelter, Willie Randolph,
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  Speaker 2: former second baseman of the Yankees, longtime MLB manager, the RZA,
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  Speaker 2: Al Sharpton, Allie Sherman, Hall of Fame NFL coach, Jimmy
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  Speaker 2: Smits from L.A.
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  Speaker 1: Law at NYPD Blue, Bernadette Stannis. What movie was that?
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  Speaker 1: Pink Cadillac. That's what she was in. A rapper named
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  Speaker 1: Sparky D.
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  Speaker 2: Nice. Mike Tyson. Pearl Washington. Otis Wilson of the 85 Bears.
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  Speaker 2: And last but not least, Howard Zinn.
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  Speaker 1: Note of history. He could have said Brian Flores was
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: from there. Like, Howard Zinn. They had all these options.
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  Speaker 1: He could have been just like Larry King. That's why
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  Speaker 1: he talks so good. That was the option. Nope. Mike Tyson.
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  Speaker 4: That's bad. Larry is from Philadelphia, by the way, in
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  Speaker 4: case you were wondering.
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  Speaker 6: Oh.
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  Speaker 4: Of the Three Stooges.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.
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  Speaker 2: That's right, because they dropped Shemp and picked up Larry.
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  Speaker 2: I wonder if Schimpf was bitter about that.
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  Speaker 4: How could you not be? I can't look up and
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  Speaker 4: see that. How big of stars were they back then?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the fact that we know about them to
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  Speaker 1: this day.
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  Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. It must have been huge. They
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: were like Miley Cyrus or bigger than that. I was
• 14:47
  Speaker 4: thinking about Taylor Swift. That's the name that I meant,
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  Speaker 4: but the other one came out. My bad.
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  Speaker 2: Hold on.
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  Speaker 1: No, no. This is interesting.
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  Speaker 4: Damn.
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  Speaker 1: Curly died before he turned 50? Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Shemp died at night. Oh, Curly and Shemp were brothers.
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  Speaker 2: I wonder if Shemp was like, you know, like not
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: showing up on time.
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  Speaker 4: Of all the surprising places that these shows end up,
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  Speaker 4: Three Stooges? Yes. I was not expecting three Stooges analysis
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  Speaker 4: this morning.
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  Speaker 1: Shemp went solo. He had a contract dispute, and he
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  Speaker 1: went solo. Shemp to Bobby Brown. Under three Stooges. Too
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  Speaker 1: hot to handle, too cold to hold.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: You know? The Bobby Brown.
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: The other thing about the Brian Flores part is I
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: find myself not as... gung-ho as i used to be
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: about he black we gotta we gotta look like you
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  Speaker 4: gotta get it done because i feel less good about
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  Speaker 4: people making it that i or individuals reaching some higher
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  Speaker 4: playing than i do about like something more, I don't know,
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  Speaker 4: something more systemic as far as addressing this. I feel
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  Speaker 4: less like I was in Denver when Obama was running.
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  Speaker 4: That felt like something. I was like, oh, we doing,
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  Speaker 4: it felt like we a part of the civil rights movement.
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  Speaker 4: And then you look up and like, nah. Like, That
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: was tight for Barack.
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: Now, I also want to be clear about something, though,
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: with Flores that I do think is important.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: It does seem clear that they was messing with him. Yeah.
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: Like there's there's no. And that's the part that matters there.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: He's not the only jerk that's out there. There are
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: other jerks. There are other jerks that get jobs and
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: very few have demonstrated themselves to be as accomplished as him.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: He's the only guy to leave that Belichick nest. And
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: make something of himself, really. Other than Nick Saban. Who
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: can you think of from the Patriots time that you
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: really look at? Does Bill O'Brien count? I guess he
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: wasn't bad. He was okay.
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: I think some people will give him Vrabel, even though
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: he's not technically part of the coaching tree. But he's
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: really never developed, which makes you want to re-inspect that dynasty.
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: It's like, how? How would nobody come out of there
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: and be any good?
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: Well, maybe, just maybe, Bill Belichick is just that cold.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: The other argument, of course, is Tom Brady's just that cold,
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: but I saw what it was before Brady became Brady.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: Belichick might just really be that dude.
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: I don't mean that to say that we should reinspect
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: it like being more judgmental. I mean that to say
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: it might be more interesting because we throw it in
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: there as a dynasty like the other ones, but all
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: the other dynasties had like offshoots. Like if you think
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: of the 49ers and the Cowboys, those, they had coaches
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: and like the whole NFL, like the Denver Broncos and
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: the way everyone plays offense today is all like derivative
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: of like Bill Walsh and Mike Shanahan and like all
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: that stuff. Like you can find, you can still find
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: people who reference like the old Cowboys and how they
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: do things like right down to the, the way you
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: value draft picks like that. There's nothing like that from Belichick, right?
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: That is interesting.
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: Get your quarterback to take a discount? What's the lasting
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: principle that you got from this? It's like get out
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: of contracts early maybe?
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: Well, I guess part of the problem with your style
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: is I have no style, is that you have no style,
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: and so nobody necessarily jumps on and adapts.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: But you're right.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: There is, and I guess people who are a little
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: more football nerdy than me, like what's the style? What
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: is the thing that people look at and say that's
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: the Bill Belichick impact?
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: I mean, I guess maybe it is just the flexibility
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: and adaptability that they show. Maybe the fact that there
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: is no style.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: Some shit that can't nobody else do.
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: Like that's that's what it comes down to is. Yeah,
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: you could try it. You know, speaking of things that
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: you could try. Cowboys are trying something that everybody seems
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: to try, at least at some point.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: And I'm actually thinking about this.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Dominique, I feel like you may not have ever been
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: in one of these because you made a point of this.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Dominique is like, I have always been on good teams.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: And since he's always been on good teams, that means
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: that Dominique has never had to attend.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: A players only meeting.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: Those of you who go back to the right time
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: from when we was on the radio know me and
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Shannon love nothing more than when the word gets out
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: that it is a players-only meeting. Has the players only
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: meeting ever fixed the problem? And by the way, it's
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: the Cowboys defense.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: I've been fortunate not to be at a players only
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: meeting and it is the Cowboys defense. That is the problem.
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: And last week, the offense didn't show up, but I
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: think that happens from time to time. You can get
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: over it, but when it rains, it pulls. like you
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: mentioned I've never been in one of those like serious
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: players only meetings about the season I've been in players
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: only meetings about beef where there was like a locker
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: room where they're like, let's get together and let's clear
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: the air. Right. That sort of thing. And it's like
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: a position only if you have some issue within your position.
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: So like, that's not something that goes away and their
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: fights and all that sort of stuff.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Sometimes the players only meeting, but it's.
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: The problem is it's the, the effort is to address
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: something in one day that you've had a problem with
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: for many days now, and it goes all the way
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: back and you can't really fix it because all that
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: the players only meeting is about is like, let's recommit,
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: let's address the culture. Like, don't give up on the season.
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: We need to be in early and out late. Like,
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: this is our lives that are on the line here.
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: Our livelihood that's on the line here. Fuck them coaches.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: They're going to work somewhere else. I don't care. They
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: all got friends. They'll be fine. This is on us.
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: We don't know what they're doing, what they're not doing,
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: but we got to get this right. This is all
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: we care about. You put film out there. This is
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: the guy.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Like, it's all that stuff. And it's like, you know what?
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: This is stuff we should have been doing.
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: It's gotten out of hand. It's a problem now. It's
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: like a it's a cultural thing.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: Which you feel like can't be changed in one night.
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: But sometimes I think the best move or the outcome
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: of players only meetings in like hiring a new coach
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: or firing a coach is like it gives you a
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: reason to believe. For a second, it's like, oh, now
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: we got Petten up in here. Things are going to
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: be better, right? Oh, we traded for Quinn and Williams
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: last year.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Things are going to be better.
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: And I think oftentimes things.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Do get better for a week or two.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like the players-only meeting is either the
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: best news that a coach can get or the worst
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: news that a coach can get.
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: Oh, hold on. Let me cut you off right there.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: News.
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure that all players-only meetings– Or not.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: It's sent from upstairs.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I think sometimes it's like we can't get through
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: to them. Hey, big dog. It's time to press that button.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. And so that's a great point, right? So
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: let's look at it.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: For purposes of this discussion, we will start with an
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: assumption that this came from the players themselves.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Okay? Either A, as coach.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: You've done what you were supposed to do, and now
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: they got to be accountable and take care of things,
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: and you're glad that they are showing that level of responsibility.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Or option B, it is the player saying, what'd he know?
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: And that's the worry that you have because they win
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: a guy. So the Cowboys have a first-year defensive coordinator
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: named Christian Parker.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: And, you know, to be honest, room for the brother.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, this is
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: your chance, you know?
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: They win a guy, Mike Pettin, who is a very
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: interesting guy because he had spent two years as the
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: head coach for the Browns and said, I never want
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: to do that ever again. Very well-regarded defensive mind. And
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: they brought him in to help out Christian Parker, which
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: I think is a cool thing. I don't look at
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: that as a bad sign for Parker as much as
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of other people do.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: He's new to the gig.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: Apparently, if they see that he's struggling in some way,
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: I'd much rather the team say they're doing something to
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: support him rather than to just completely bail on him
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: under these circumstances.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: I get that. However, yeah.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: They're also saying that they are saying it's your fault.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: And the players taking this to players only is saying
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: maybe he'll be able to help us. But right now
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: he can't and he ain't.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: I think that where I slightly disagree with you is
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: I get your point. And the problem is for him,
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: they've determined that this to me suggests we can't start
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: over right now, but we're going to start over soon.
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: So like the problem with bringing Mike Patton in is
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: best case scenario.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: Shit solved.
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: And who gets the credit? What are you here for? Right. Why?
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Why are we paying you more than we paying him?
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Why are you even here?
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: Right. So like there's he's still in it. And if
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: shit don't get better, Patton, Patton in a good spot.
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: Shit don't get better. Well, it's because I wasn't here
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: during training camp. He was teaching my principles. He just
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: ain't have me here to make sure. So why don't
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: you hand that on over to your boy? Like that
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: to me, that's a bad spot for him to be in.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Remember when the Milwaukee Bucks was asking Doc Rivers for
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: advice and then fired that coach after like three weeks?
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: And who did they hire? You're damn right. You're damn right. Well, yeah.
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: Doc, talk about people who know how to play the game, boy.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Yes, he does. Doc Smoove. Yes, he does. Yes, he does.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: And honestly, man, once the word gets out that you
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: know how to play the game, you would think that
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: people would know.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Not to think that he could play. Nope, still goes.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Still goes. But let me ask you this. What do
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: you think is the problem that the Cowboys have on defense?
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: Everything.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Everything?
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: I would say it's not everything at once, which is
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: a harder thing to address. It's a bunch of different
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: things at different times. And that's one of the things
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: that we underappreciate about football, about how the complexity leads to.
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: breakdowns right so like you can look pretty bad like
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: your linebackers could look bad if your defensive tackles are
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: are being selfish and shooting gaps so make your linebackers
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: look bad because your d tackles will be in the
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: backfield but they're not in their gap and they've allowed
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: the double team to bypass them and get to the
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: second level Right. So like there's so many things like that,
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: that you'll see situations where that happens. And then you
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: see situations where the linebackers get the wrong read. You
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: can tell that they're supposed to like fill a gap
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: or spill a block and they choose not to or
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: they're not choose not to. They like have a brain fart,
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: but it's not the same thing every time. Then you
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: see in the secondary, sometimes there's a blown coverage and
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: sometimes they just get beat. Like that's one of the
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: problems I think that we don't talk about is like
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: you're going to lose.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: But when you have a.
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: Reputation and something is hanging over your head, it's a
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: different feeling when you lose a play. It's like, Oh,
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: here we go again. But the problem is you're the
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: rules are designed and you're playing against NFL guys is
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: that sometimes they're just going to make a play. And
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: then sometimes you're like, man, we suck at defense. The
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: problem when you suck at defense is when they make
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: a play, it begins that psychological avalanche and begins the
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: writing and the talking and all that stuff that ends
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: up multiplying all the things. Because even if players say
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: they don't listen, somebody listened, somebody in that building listen
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: and they care and it influences the way that you're
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: treated and the way that you prepare.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you this brother. I'm glad that
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: you gave that answer to me of everything. Cause it
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: reminds me once I was in graduate school, quite honestly,
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: getting my ass whooped. And I went to my macro
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: economics professor to ask him a question about the homework
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: that he had given us. And I mean, I'm going
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: to be honest with you, man. I ain't really in
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: the business of diagnosing nobody, but his lack of social
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: skills probably had a name. I mean, I can't say
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: that for certain, but he probably had a name. So
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: I go in there to talk to him. This motherfucker
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: looking at the computer screen the whole time. He'll never
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: look at me. I'm trying to talk my way through
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: whatever it is. And I'm not taking it personally. It's
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: obvious that this is much bigger than me, right?
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, University of Chicago, PhD, all this stuff, right?
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: So I'm going through all this, da-da-da, and I explain
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: to him. And I really did think I was cooking.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: And the man said to me, and I.
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: Quote, well, it seems that you are off on one thing,
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: and that one thing is everything.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: And I remember I stopped, and I took a minute,
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: a beat, and I looked at him, and I was like,
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: how's that going to help me do this homework?
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: What are next steps? Where do we go from here? Not, no, okay, well,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: let's start with this one. Nope, it's just like, so
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: what are you off on? All of it, dawg. Every
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: single bit of it. so hard to imagine for.
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: You like obviously that which is humanizing it is great
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: and all that but it's also intimidating i can't imagine like.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: Buddy i don't know buddy i was a long year
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: man i was drowning man i was drowning on.
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: I badly want some other explanation like you were heartbroken
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: or there was some tragedy in your.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: Life year two year two was drowning in the heartbreak
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: year year one the the point was for them to
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: drown you and heartbreak you.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: That was what the whole... I was not alone, right?
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: We were all in there just like... Oh, my God. Dude,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: I remember that year. It was the year that College
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Dropout came out.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: And I was listening to College Dropout all the way
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: to school every day to try to get some motivation, man.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: Try to get myself to.
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: Where I needed to be. Shit, man. The man might
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: not have been all that socially adept.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: But he's a hell of an entertainer. Yeah. He milked
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: that moment. I'm going to tell you this.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: That's the first time anybody ever called that man entertaining.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: Just so you know. I will say I did pass
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: that class and pass that qualified exam. I did turn
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: up on the other side of that, but I couldn't
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: believe what he said that to me.
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: This is 23 year old me. Yeah. You know what?
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• 33:31
  Speaker 1: are back with Dominique Foxworth. Hey, we got a good
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Thursday night game.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: We can't be certain that we're going to get so
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: many of those, but we got the Seahawks and we
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: got the Broncos. And, you know, quite honestly, it wouldn't
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: be a good idea for either of those teams to
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: lose that game. Like, I feel like the loser of
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: this game cannot win their division. They're going to be
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: playing on the road for the whole playoffs.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: And neither of those teams.
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: It's the funny thing about these teams this year is
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: it feels like, and I guess it last year was
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: true too. Whoever gets the buy is going to be
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: the person who gets the chance to win.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: And now that there's only one buy, like it's hugely important.
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: These early season games that the Rams have been dropping
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: and that the Seahawks dropped last week and the Broncos
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: been dropping. Like we're not going to be talking about
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: them at the end of the year, but those are
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: going to be the ones I think that end up
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: deciding who gets that buy and who ends up representing
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: their conference at the Super Bowl and obviously these are
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: different conferences but it feels that way because everyone is
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: so feels so flawed right like all these teams that
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: we think are great and maybe of course teams change
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: and they get better but all the teams that we
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: think have a real chance have like a significant flaw
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: that is gonna get exposed and when I talk I
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: forgot what show I was on some show yesterday talking
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: about how we erase the the like bailout game from
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: everybody's playoff run. But if you think about every team's
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: playoff run, the one thing that is their weakness at
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: some point, they step up and it's normally like a
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: quarterback who's your strength is going to throw enough interceptions
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: that you should lose the game, but your defense that
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: you thought wasn't that good or your special teams get
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: a great return or you end up getting a bunch
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: of turnovers. So last year it was Sam Donald can't
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: cook like that. So we got to hide them one
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: game against the Rams, Sam Donald with ape shit. And
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: that's all they needed, right? The rest of the games,
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: he didn't do nothing. So I see that for these
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: teams and the team that has one fewer game that
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: they have to actually like, gamble that that team is
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: likely gonna make it to the super bowl and that
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: those games are decide are being decided right now and.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: I think even if it doesn't get to the point
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: of the bye week just winning the division or being
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: you know playing that home game in the wild card
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: round or having the home game the next round like
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: if you get the number two you're gonna get that
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: the loser of this game is probably going to end
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: the week three games behind the division leader oh right
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: um The Chiefs are playing the Chargers. The 49ers are
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: playing the Commandos. I would assume that both those home
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: teams who are undefeated are going to win those games.
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: I'm excited about the 49ers-Commandos game because, sorry, it's just
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: a little bit of a plug. I'm doing the... simulcast
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: where we do like the playbook thing so i'll be
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: on there with brian hoyer i think breaking down the
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: x's and o's so if you get tired of troy
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: and joe.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: I ain't even know this till right now boy we
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: done a whole presentation up there for you you know
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: what i'm.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Saying go go check dominique fosworth out breaking down the
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: plays with uh with hoyo there.
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: You go i'm uh i'm particularly excited about that linebacker
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: sunny styles i think he the second coming of fred Warner.
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: I've been watching a lot of them lately. We'll be
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: looking at it. I don't think they're going to beat
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: the 49ers.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Another conversation.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: I made to this point with RJ Young on Wednesday.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: Arville Reese and Sonny Styles make me think Ryan Day
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: is really bad at his job.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: Buddy that's the only conclusion i can.
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: Draw buddy is it him the same thing could be
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: said of dabble sweeney like these boys that was at
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: clemson balling out this year in the league all the
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: rookies balling out it's just yeah they recruiting and coaching
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: are two different things and ryan day get them boys
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: in there but reese and styles and then put downs
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: on top of it How did anybody score?
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: They did have downs.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: Or is the grander indictment not of Ryan Day but
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: of Matt Patricia? Matt Patricia can't even coach an NFL
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: defense when they playing in college. He got an NFL
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: team against a college team. And it still ain't going right.
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: That's like– It's like Ed Ogeron not winning the title
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: that one time. Like, he got those type of players
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: on the defensive side of the ball. Yeah. That's what
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: it looked like to me.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: Hey, shout out to Ed Ogeron, by the way. A
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: whole lot of people might have found a way to
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: mess that up. Ed Ogeron did not. In fact, Ed Ogeron,
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: every day when somebody explained to him what Ryan Day got.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: To, he don't. Right? Like, what is he? What's really hood? Like,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: what are we talking about? Show me.
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: He know how to talk to people. That's what it
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: comes down to. It's right there. It makes people feel
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: more comfortable. Ed Ogeron is like.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: No, the problem is that when things start going wrong
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: for Ed Ogeron, it confirms your priors.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: That's the issue.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: That's the issue for Ed Ogeron. Hey, I give Ed
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: Ogeron credit for this, too. Ed Ogeron got the job
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: he always wanted. He reached the mountaintop at that job
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: he always wanted.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: It's cool. Ed over there helping Lane out right now.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: Ed wasn't about to be going out in the middle
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: of nowhere. Ed wasn't about to be going to Louisiana Lafayette,
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: Louisiana Monroe. Nope, nope, nope.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: Ed was like, how much money you going to give
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: me to leave? Where do I sign? I'm going to
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: just go fishing and eating crawfish and talking unintelligibly.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Ed O figured it out.
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: But, yeah, you named a bunch of games that were
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: really interesting. I only stopped down on one in order
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: to hype myself up. What are the other games that
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: you want to talk about?
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Okay, let me ask you this. Do you think that
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: there's a chance that the Texans can recover this season?
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: Not really. Because there shouldn't be, right? Like, they're down 0-4. 0-4.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: They won last week. Stroud has been better than he
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: was when we saw him at the end of last year.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: They just went in and... acquired a receiver. Names don't
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: really matter. That's the details, shmeetails. But I don't know.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: I don't feel as great about Jacksonville, the record notwithstanding,
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: especially after they pulled that one out of their keister
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: against that depleted, Eagles team that they played against last week.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: But if they can get themselves into a wild card situation,
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: I still feel like it's a defense you don't want
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: no parts of.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: Though they haven't played that well this year.
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: That's the thing. And looking back at them, you're right.
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: They haven't played as well as we expected, but I
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: don't think they're bad. Like there's no reason for me
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: to believe like they don't need to have a players
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: only meeting. There's no reason for me to believe that
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: things don't break a little bit better in their direction
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: defensively for the rest of the season. That's like a
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: regression of the mean, the opposite way of how we
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: normally talk about it. But that's the real thing, too,
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: because their mean is different from other people's mean. And
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: right now they've been below it. without like a glaring issue.
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: And it's not quite clear to me. I think people,
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: their defense is more straightforward. It's less like complicated as
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: Brian Flores is, or it appears less complicated as like
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: Brian Flores' defense is, which there are pros and cons, right,
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: with everything. So the straightforward defense is one that is
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: easier to scheme against, but... we can whoop your ass
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: at just about every position, so we're good there. The
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: Brian Flores scheme defense is like, yeah, sometimes you can't
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: rely on a coach to outsmart everybody every week. Sometimes
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: it's going to catch up to you, and you like
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: to have that one player or a couple of players
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: that are just like, the scheme don't matter because I'm
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: so much better than them.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: So they're pros and cons to both, and I think Flores' defense.
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: will regress to the mean negatively in some ways and
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: I think the Texans will regress to the mean positively
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: and get more interceptions and turnovers and stuff that they
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: created last year but the question is is it too
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: late Because there were a couple of games that they
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: had a chance to win earlier in the season, and
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: they lost them. And they're going to continue to be
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: those type of games, and they're going to be some
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: that they deserve to lose. Have they put themselves in
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: too deep a hole to pull out? Because I don't
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: think this team can't compete. If we just dropped them
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: in the playoffs today, I'd feel like they have a
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: chance to make a run, and most teams wouldn't want
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: to play them. But given the hole they put themselves in,
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: the question is, can they play flawlessly the rest of
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: the season?
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: We got Dallas Green Bay on Sunday night. There is
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: a chance that Green Bay will be 4-2 at the
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: end of this game. That doesn't feel right.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's not.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: It's like as bad as they look, any time I
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: put my eyes on them, as bad as they look,
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: they come out of this at 4-2, even though they
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: can't block people.
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they're in great shape. They are in a division,
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: luckily for them, where all the teams have enormous flaws.
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: The Vikings seem like Kyler may address their biggest flaw.
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: He may not.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: It's only maybe. It's only maybe. Yeah.
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: I mean, the question is, can he play mediocre and
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: occasionally show a flash of great? That's the question. And
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: that feels more likely than, like, say, the Bears' defense
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: or the Lions' defense is going to, like, be consistently good.
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: So that's the benefit is they could make it into
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: the playoffs. But one of the problems with some of
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: these teams, especially teams that have great quarterbacks, like a
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: really good quarterbacks, like love is when you've been there
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: for long enough, the expectation is more than just make
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: the playoffs. And I don't think against good teams, they
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: are going to play well in the playoffs. So they
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: might sneak into the playoffs or they might win the
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: division and not sneak in, just walk right into the playoffs.
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: And I feel like they aren't good enough up front
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: or on defense, even when they get, um, micah back
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: to to beat anybody.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: But even with that in mind neither of us is
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: entertaining the possibility that the cowboys are going to win
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: that game they're.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: Not gonna get you huh.
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I gave up on them week one when I
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: saw their defense because.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: You bailed immediately because I, you know what it was.
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: And like, I know we try to pretend like all
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: of us are unbiased and whatever, but like, nah, I
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: was hurt emotionally. I spent the off season drinking a Kool-Aid.
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: Y'all spent the whole off season drafting and trading and
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: signing and, and hiring. And you told me that your
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: focus was going to be on defense and, Week one,
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: week two, I'm going to need you to show me something.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: Because that's all we cared about. That's all. You focused
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: on it all year. And then you was bad. And
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: so a little of me was just pissed that I
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: was so dumb.
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: And I turned out to be right. My emotions led
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: me to the right answer because them boys ain't serious.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: That's right over there.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: That's where I am on Kyler Murray. I really put
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: a lot on the line.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: I really did. I stepped out here. It's not looking like.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: It's not looking like I made a great decision because
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: it's not looking like that.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: You mentioned Curly earlier being from Philadelphia.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: I know he's dead, but that doesn't mean he's not
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: on the Eagles right now because they got a bunch
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: of dudes that can't play in the game. They got
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: a hole too deep full of people that can't play
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: in the game, and they're going to play against the Panthers. And,
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's on the board that they could get
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: rolled at the crib where those people have no appreciation
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: for context.
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Their offense is where all the injuries are, the
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: most significant injuries. This is one of those things where, like,
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: I would say most of the time that you can't
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: hit a switch. Apparently Jalen Carter can. So my choice
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: for whether the Eagles win or lose any game for
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: the rest of the year is if someone could get
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: me on the phone with Jalen Carter before the game,
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, what you thinking?
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: All pro today or no? Because that's how.
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: Easy he made it look in the Jacksonville game. And
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: I know they lost that game, but it was like,
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: why you ain't been doing this?
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: Right. Jumped up and be like, who's this guy?
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question about Jalen Carter. And
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: I want to make sure I look this up properly. Okay.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: Jalen Carter was the ninth pick in the 2023 draft.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: He went after Bryce Young, CJ Stroud, Will Anderson, Anthony Richardson,
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: Devon Witherspoon, Paris Johnson, Tyree Wilson, B.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: John Robinson.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: What in the world was in that file? What did
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: people tell them about this guy? Because I know if
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: you need a quarterback, you take a quarterback, whatever it is,
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: but And I know obviously there's the drag racing situation,
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: but they don't look past way worse than that in
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: this league for a dude as cold as he is.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: Like the Raiders, that boy is a Raider. And they
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: took the wrong guy. Tyree Wills, that was a terrible decision.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: They took a dude from Alaska over a dude from Florida.
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: At the time, I was confused by it. And I
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: have fewer connects than I have now. And I was
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: asking people because I was like, this don't make sense.
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: And like, to your point, I was like, yeah, that
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: was bad. But like, that's that hasn't scared people away
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: from this type of talent. And then you would hear
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: like the. Yeah, there would be like. nothing was firm
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: enough for you to, like, feel comfortable talking about. So
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: people would, like, suggest things about his personality and his
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: work ethic and stuff like that. And it was like, well,
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: you ain't going to put your name on it. Like,
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: I ain't going to be out here repeating this. So
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: I was the whole time like, why is he sliding?
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: And I remember saying, like, at nine, the Eagles got
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: him still at a draft. He's going to dominate this league.
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: And then he does sometimes and then he doesn't sometimes.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know why? Because it's just a little too
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: easy for him, dog. Yeah.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: Like, why don't you do this all the time? Why
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: don't you do anything all the time? Why don't you
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: have the same thing for breakfast every day?
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: That's a fair point.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: Sometimes you just need a little bit of a change.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: The thing with him also is I wish I knew
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: more about him personally because all I got is that
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: look on his face.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: And that's a defensive lineman there, brother.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: They put him on offensive line one time and they
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: were like, he doesn't really seem interested in this.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: Nah. He has no interest in pass protection.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: Like, I bet he love getting out there pulling, you
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying? Like, scoping out DBs, taking them down,
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: but you're just going to stand around and keep people safe?
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: Nah, nah, nah.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: That's not what my relationship with safety is.
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't know if this is true or not,
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: but this has been my experience. The history, the path
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: for D linemen, it rarely, especially those type of league-changing
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: super athlete, like, it rarely involves any O-line.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: It normally involves skill positions.
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: Like you go from.
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: Running back to D line because you kept growing and
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: other kids didn't, you go from tight end to D line, right? Like,
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: and of course in high school, you might play both ways,
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: but D lineman or D lineman, but they normally come
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: from somewhere else. They, and sometimes D lineman get moved
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: over to offensive line. Cause they don't got whatever that,
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: that nasty streak is, but it's so rare that, I mean,
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: I guess tackles are athletic enough to probably do it
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: if they wanted to, but there's the disposition thing and
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: the height thing. But yeah, they normally come from more
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: explosive positions. They don't come from... That's a great point.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that is a great point. You don't just
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: turn them over to the other side.
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: Sometimes you go the other way. Sometimes you take a
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: D-line and like... you don't want to kill enough.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: I always wonder like when Nick Saban had our guy
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: Swagoo go from playing tight end to play a defensive line,
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: if he ever had any reservations. And we just say
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: that because Marcus is such a great dude. We all
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: love him.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: Um, Yeah. But you know, Marcus.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: But he's like, like you said, have to be nice,
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: have to be kind. I don't think he has to
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: tell himself those things. I think he does that naturally.
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: No, I think you're right.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: I also think.
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: That I think it's about the capacity. I think for
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: some people, the ability to turn it on and turn
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: it off is something that they have managed to control.
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: And it's not fake. It's like, this is a part
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: of me. I think when I talk about D-line and O-line,
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: and of course, this is generalization. It's not true of everyone.
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: I think it's more about capacity. And now let me
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: ask you something. You know him well.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: I know him really well.
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: Do you think he got the capacity?
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't test it.
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: I promise you yeah i promise you yeah yeah okay
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: i don't.
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: I don't want to i don't want to put my
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: man in a bad situation let me just tell you
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: yes yes One of my favorite.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: Marcus stories is I was in the office one day,
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: and I can't remember why, but somebody had left some
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: glasses on the counter. And somebody asked if those glasses
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: were mine. And they're like, number one, you've never seen
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: me with glasses. Number two, them glasses was like yay wide.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: Them glasses was like as wide as a television. There
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: was no question who those glasses belonged to. Those were
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: Marcus Spears glasses. There was no doubt.
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: And he's the nicest guy. But yeah, I know. He's
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: still for Baton Rouge. Exactly. Exactly.
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: And again, he moved from tight end from basketball star.
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: He was they never put that man at tackle a guard.
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: You better stop it.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: Yo, that's a great point. That's why it's surprising because
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: he was seen to be to be the guy of, hey,
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: we move. We just kick you down to play tackle.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: That very often happens with like five star tight end
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: type players. Eric Winston. is an example of a guy
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: like that, right? You just slide them down and then
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: they like, it's so crazy to be the Darnell Washington
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: that never at any point did they say, how would
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: you like to play tackle? It feels like it would
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: make a lot more money for him.
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: I'm still saying that.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: I don't understand why he's not a tackle. I don't
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: get it either. Like, go ahead and whatever diet that
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: you want, you can get off of it.
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: You can eat whatever you want to eat now and
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: make a whole lot more money. I don't get it
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: because he clearly has that athleticism. Maybe there's something else
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: there that's not worked on at Washington is the enormous
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: tight end for the Steelers, who was at Georgia before.
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: And they'd be saying he 360, but. 260, there's no chance.
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: I mean, they say 260.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: He's 290 at the least.
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: He would be an incredible tackle. Do you remember Eric Green?
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: Eric Green used to play tight end for the Steelers
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: in the early 90s, and he was basically the same
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: size as Darnell Washington, except he was a better receiver.
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: He was like 6'5, 280. I wonder what Darnell.
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: So Darnell Washington may not have the quick twitch because
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: the way he plays, when the way he blocks DBs
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: and the way he runs with the ball, he got that...
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: That demeanor, it seems, that would work on the other
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: side of the ball, too. But, like, tackle?
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: Go ahead and slide on down one step and get
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: that money.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: Clearly somebody's thought about this before we had, right? Like,
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: everything we're talking about here.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: It's not like, you know, heard Bomani and Dominique talking
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: on the show. And I was just wondering, maybe we
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: need to kick Darnell inside. Just see how it goes.
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember the draft saying it. And I projected, like,
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: they're going to slide him down the tackle. I guarantee it.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: They have it.
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: They just like letting him stiff on 190-pound defensive.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: Backs for whatever reason. That man out there. He don't
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: belong in our neighborhood, man. I see you standing up
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: for the squad. You know what I'm saying? Like, you
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: ready to call 5-0. We got to get this man
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: off the streets. He's cheating.
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: Like, we already have to deal with 250, 260-pound guys. Like,
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: we're not supposed to have to deal with a 300-pound
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: guy with the ball in his hands. Yes.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: Last thing.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: I have been a little bit surprised. I was going
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: to ask about the Giants, but a little worried about
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: them another day. I understand that Washington blew that game,
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: and it was a collective failure in the way that
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: they blew that game.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: At the end.
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: I have been shocked how long that topic, though, has
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: persisted in the media.
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: They get to play the 49ers. Yep. Like, what are
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: they going to do now?
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: It's such bad luck, too, is that you got the
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: standalone isolated game immediately after that topic. So like the
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: lead up to the game is going to be conversations
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: about what happened in the previous game.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: The 49ers.
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: I mean, they just beat the Seahawks, the Super Bowl champs.
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: That's fine. But that ain't interesting. Y'all did something that
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: ain't never been done before. We're going to be talking
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: about that. We talked about it till Wednesday, maybe even
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: a little bit on Thursday this week. Now we're going
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: to let you we're going to let you off the hook.
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: Until Monday, after Monday morning, after we're done talking about
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: the Sunday games, we're talking about y'all all the way
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: up and through that kickoff of that game, and don't
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: you dare get into a unique end-of-half or end-of-game situation.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: How about just don't have no delay a game, period?
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: They in such a lose-lose.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: They in such a lose-lose. Also, throwing this out here,
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: We talked about the Chiefs playing the Chargers. I believe
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: that the Chargers have a bye week after this game.
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: So if they go to 0-6, somebody's got to get fired, right?
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: Like Mike McDaniel is going to be over there with
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: y'all at the desk, right?
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he would fit in.
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: He seemed like he got some things to say. Yeah,
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: something's going to have to change, man.
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: By the way, people in our job, I get this,
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: where they don't feel good about calling for somebody's job.
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: Getting fired is not the problem with getting fired. Yeah.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: It's not about the job. It's about the check.
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: A job with no check? There's a word for that.
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: A check with no job?
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: There's a word for that. Fun employment. Been there. Love it.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: That first month after you got your check but you
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: ain't got to go to work is great. It's when
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: that check don't come. Now we got a problem. So
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: I ain't got no shame about this. If they go
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: to 0-6, somebody's going to lose their job.
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's definitely not going to be the quarterback.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: I assume.
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: The head coach, they will wait. So it sounds like
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: you're right. It's going to be Mike.
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, somebody has to answer for this. On
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: some level, someone has to answer. I can't believe how
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: bad they are.
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: I don't know how a team with expectations, too. Walking
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: into the building every week. It's got to be impossible.
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: It's so demoralizing. I remember what it felt like to
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: walk in after one loss. It would feel terrible. Maybe
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: you get used to it. You probably do get used
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: to it to some extent, but you have some expectations
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: that you're just going to kick off the year with
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: six in a row and no answers.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: It's not like we're waiting for something to change. They
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: are currently three games behind their entire division. Everybody has
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: three more wins than they do including the Raiders. Three
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: games behind the whole division. And they about to drop
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: their sixth one. Well, how about this?
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: It ain't going to get no better, because I don't
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: know if you've seen the rest of that schedule. Rams, Texans, Ravens, Jets, Patriots, Bucs, Raiders, 49ers, Dolphins, Chiefs, Broncos.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: I'm counting a couple of wins there.
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: And all the teams that we say we think they're
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: going to beat, they just as sorry as them.
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: There's no hope, man.
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: They'll steal one at some point that we don't expect
• 57:58
  Speaker 4: them to win. They better hope it's this week. Everybody
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: playing right now.
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: This is Super Bowl, man. This is to keep everybody
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: in the building.
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: I think I'm going to go watch that game with Nick.
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: The only way that I would call the Chargers winning
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: that game is it would just be funny.
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: That's the only thing I got. If that happened, it
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: would be funny to watch, but I would leave halfway
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: through the fourth quarter. I don't like to be there
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: when it go real bad.
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: I just never forget.
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: I sent Nick's wife a text during the Super Bowl
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: in February 2021 where the Buccaneers blew the Chiefs' doors off,
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: and I was like, is he okay?
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: And the answer I got was no.
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: That was it. oh you got no more color she
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: ain't got time for color.
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: No no no no no i think she was too
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: busy just trying not to hear that noise damn like
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: that's a house that's a house full of people that
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: aren't nearly as into this.
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah i mean sometimes i miss the highs of it
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: don't miss the lows of it Nah, nah.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: I ain't going to lie to you, old boy.
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: I can't tell you enough about how much better I
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: felt with America's team. The America's team started the game
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: off real slow against the Cardinals last week.
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: I was salty.
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: I was sending people to Bosco. Man, they started putting
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: up them points. Can I just say it? Can I
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: just throw it out here? Just saying for right now.
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: Jared Goff.
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: Putting up MVP numbers.
• 59:30
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: He's putting up MVP numbers. I know a lot of
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: y'all out here talking about Brock Purdy. Look what Jerry
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: Goff got to work with over there.
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: Jerry Goff, we got to go out here and score
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: 50 points a game just to have an opportunity. Brock
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: Purdy ain't got to worry about that. Jerry Goff got
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: the weight of the world on his shoulders. He throw
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: the ball to J-Mo. You never know what that boy
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: might do. He might put that thing on the ground
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: and try to hump it. We've seen him do it before.
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: He might go on the sideline and go check his
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: cow sheet. For all I know, it's on the board.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: Anything can happen.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: Did I tell you I had the distinct pleasure of
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: introducing that clip to Randy Moss?
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: No, you did not. Yeah. What did Randy Moss think
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: upon seeing that?
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: He just started cracking up. Because it started because Jamar
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 4: Chase was doing that celebration and And I was saying
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: what I thought it was, which is what it actually was.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: And other people were saying other things. And then the
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: next week, he got hit with a fine. And I
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: was like, yeah.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: I was like, at least it wasn't as bad as
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: with J-Mo, because I assume everybody remembered that. He was like,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: what did J-Mo do?
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: Like, watch this.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: What was so funny about the J-Mo clip was I
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: forget it. I think it was Laporta that was right
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: there and saw it. It was like, oh, no. He's
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: going to start humping the ground. Like, imagine watching another
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: grown man about to hump something and you have no
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: other choice but to wrap your arms around him. Yeah.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: Like, oh, no.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: Better be than the flow. Hey, man, stakes is high. But, hell,
• 1:01:06
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• 1:01:15
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