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Anunnaki Coverup Dates Back to the Stone Age | Podcast 41 · Anunnaki Origins Podcast

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There is a interconnectivity to life and to technology and to
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research and to getting around cover ups which have been forced
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us to live in kind of like the Stone Age.
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You know, the idea that we're still pumping fluids out of the
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ground and burning them and creating huge problems for the
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atmosphere, etcetera, etcetera is archaic.
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It's not necessary, and I'm not talking just about the normal
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alternatives like wind and solar and whatever.
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I'm talking about sticking instrumentation straight into
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the torsion field itself and tapping off unlimited non
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polluting energy that you turn into electricity.
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And the cars don't care how you charge them.
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It's the source of the electricity which is a problem,
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not the end use. Is this the stuff that Art Bell
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was getting into this big antenna?
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Well, it's not even an antenna. It's something the size of a
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bread box that you'll someday buy and stick in your basement
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or in your apartment house. And it taps into the IT goes by
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several different names. The the mainstream name for it
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is the 0. .0 point energy. Of the vacuum, it's really
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tickling the torsion field. That's the Russian term for it
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because of Nikolai Kosarev's incredible research into
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torsion, meaning rotation. Remember anything in torsion is
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rotating, flexing. And one of the keys to tapping
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into this is rotation of mass in three dimensions.
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And then you process it artificially and you tap off the
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energy. And this has been part of the
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huge cover up because of oil lobbies, oil companies, oil
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monopolies, you know what they used to call special interests?
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Well, special interests are killing us in the planet and a
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huge number of people. And that's why it's got to
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change. And we think we've got now a
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handle on the breakthrough that will politically.
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And the only way it's going to change Howard is politically,
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politically change it. All right, well, that's the.
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This was the surprising news you told me about in an e-mail.
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Yeah, one of one of the one. All right, well, we'll get that.
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Yeah. I want to just update our
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listener on a couple of things because I've got new people
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joining this all the time. Right.
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I didn't. By the way, we'll be able to
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promote my show because a lot of this we're going to talk about
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this coming Sunday the 29th. It turns out that your show
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precedes my show. ITV show Yeah.
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Which is available all over the world through the Internet, the
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magic of the Internet. And so we'll tease what we're
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going to talk about on on your show, on my show.
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And then on my show, I show images and data and pictures and
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links and research. And we talked about with a
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panoply of of, you know, generalists, what this will mean
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for Britons, for American citizens, for the entire world
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and in the not too distant future.
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It'd be one thing, Howard, if we had to start from scratch and
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invent everything like Edison and the light bulb.
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No, all we got to do is open the doors and have all this secret
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technology that the so-called deep state has been hiding for
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decades out into the open and available commercially and can
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go to the races day after tomorrow.
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The transition can be swift and almost painless, except to the
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lobbyists and the oil companies who've been keeping us down on
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the farm. OK.
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Well, I've got a lot of questions about that for you,
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but I, I want to get to, to other stuff.
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OK, first of all, the, the definition, the introduction to
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you for people who've never heard you before.
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I mean, I've got the bio here from something I found online.
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And one of the things we've said before is, by the way, my
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listener, don't look at your Wikipedia entry because it will,
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it will seriously mislead you. But this is your bio.
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Richard C Hogan, former Space Science Museum curator, former
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NASA consultant, and, you know, great claim to fame during the
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Apollo missions, you were science advisor to the great
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Walter Cronkite at CBS and. There's one thing that.
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Was just the start of the story. You know, there's one thing we
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should add, it turns out, and I can't really, I haven't thought
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about this in so long, but I was doing some research the other
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day. It turns out that I actually
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have a small role, official role, under NASA in the Apollo
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program. I was officially part of the
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Apollo program. And let me tell you how it
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works. When I was at CBS one afternoon,
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a guy came up to me and he said, Mr. Hogan, I said, yes, he was
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kind of tall and, you know, wore one of those suits back in the
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1970s. He said, I need to talk to you.
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So we went into a a quiet office and he closed the door.
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And he says we would like you to write the Grumman Press book
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section on the moon and why we're part of it and part of
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Apollo and why we're building the lunar module.
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And I looked him and I said, what?
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And it turns out that's exactly what happened.
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So what we'll do after we tape this is that I'll send you a
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link to the actual Apollo the press book from the Grumman
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Aerospace Corporation, which describes in a whole chapter in
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the press book that went all over the world.
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Every press person on the planet covering the Apollo program had
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to read the press book, and they obviously read my section on why
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we were going to the moon. And, you know, as a writer,
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Howard, it it, you know, you look at your stuff very, very,
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very with slitted, narrow eyes because you always hate what you
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write. I got to say that after 50 some
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years, this damn thing still holds up.
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Did you get a name credit for this?
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Yeah, of course. My name's right on it.
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I'm in the table of contents. It's, it's no, it's all
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official. So I will send you that link.
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You'll put it up on wherever you your, your, your audience goes
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and listens to. But no, you can add to my credit
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that I had a little tiny part of the actual Apollo program in
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helping humans go to and return safely from.
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The moon, the world of science, the world of space exploration,
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The world of just about anything that's cool and interesting is
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always spurred forward by people who are not afraid to say
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controversial and unusual things.
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And. And that's what you've done over
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the years. But you.
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Mean square pegs in round holes. Yeah, I do.
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I'm, you know, I was trying to put it in a nice finessed
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English way, but that's exactly what we're talking about here.
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Now, when I said that you were coming on this show, I I posted
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it on Facebook. I got some messages and it's the
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usual divide between people who are loving the idea of hearing
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you again after, you know, a certain amount of time, and
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people who are saying that's the guy from the Face on Mars.
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What happened about that then? That was discredited, wasn't it,
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in 2023? Do you have anything to say
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about The Face On? Mars.
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Oh yeah, the face on Mars. The Sedonia region of Mars after
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its discovery and then suppression back in 1976 is
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literally and people can go and look up the statistics if they
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have the, you know, stomach to and the and the fortitude.
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It is the most photographed region by any and all space
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agencies that have ever gone to Mars with unmanned spacecraft on
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all the planet. If there's nothing there, boys
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and girls, why did NASA and the other agencies, the Chinese, the
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Russians, the Japanese, the Indians, why do they all take
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more pictures of the face on Mars and the surrounding
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pyramids than any other region of the planet?
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Answer. It's all real.
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It has incredible, profound meaning for humankind, and it's
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part of what they, the deep state, if you want to call it
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that, have been suppressing for, you know, over half a century
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because they dare not let us know.
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Because if they do, then everything will change, mostly
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for the better, and they will be out of power.
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And ultimately, it's all about power.
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Well, a lot of things these days I think are about power, hanging
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on to power and making the most of power for yourself, I think,
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he said controversially. But you know, there are those
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who will help. Controversial.
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It's it blames anybody can look at the TV screen and see all the
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strange, you know, stupid Patrick's going on.
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It's all about power. It's not about serving people.
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It's not about serving humankind.
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It's not about human progress. It's not about making, you know,
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haves out of have nots. It's all about power by those
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who can get it and keep everybody else from having it.
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You'd said that to me 10 years ago.
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Oh, I was bright eyed and bushy tailed.
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I might have said no, no, no, I can show you Emilia.
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And now I don't know. There's a big area of doubt in
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my mind, unfortunately. And I'm just hoping that I see
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things in the future that make me feel less that way.
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But let's not let's try and veer away from, you know, the the
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party political as much as we can.
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And it was me who took you down this one.
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But in terms of the face on Mars, is the face on Mars not
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just, as some people claim, the greatest example of pareidolia,
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that is your mind making an image where there isn't one that
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there has ever been. No, it's not.
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And it's very simple. I mean, I wrote several books on
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this, bestsellers, The Monuments of Mars, A City on the Edge of
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Forever, The Secret History of NASA.
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Just go find them, read them. You know, we track the research
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meticulously, step by step by step by all the normal tenants
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of science, logic, mathematics, you know, checking with
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independent researchers, other people looking at the same data,
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coming to the same conclusions. The Face on Mars and what it
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means is there for anybody who was got an open mind to look at.
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Now, there's been this incredible drum beat for decades
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against this research, not just by me, but by anybody who would,
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you know, look at this seriously, because if it's taken
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seriously, it changes everything when you go to another planet
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either in person, which no one's done that yet.
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But Musk is this coming up the rail.
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Look at what his technology is doing that everybody said was
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impossible. He's going to get humans to Mars
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decades before NASA or the Russians or the Chinese or
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whatever. I guarantee it.
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It's called the free enterprise system.
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Anyway, what's waiting at the end of that road that Musk is
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pioneering is non governmental humans, civilians who have will
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not have signed any Ndas. Those are non disclosure
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agreements who will be no under no legal compunction to not tell
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the truth. And when they landed Cydonia and
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start wandering around and picking up junk and stuff and
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bits of technology and go inside because these structures of
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Cydonia are huge artificial buildings, the Italian architect
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back in the 60s coined a term for these kind of structures.
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He called them archaeologies for architectural ecology.
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He even proposed in the same year that we went on the moon in
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69, that cities on the earth so that the countryside could go
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back to natural nature, replenish itself, that we don't
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mean, that we close in cities like New York and Los Angeles
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and London and Rome and whatever.
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And he called this process building a huge multi million
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person archaeology well with the unmanned spacecraft back in 76
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Viking look down and photograph from a couple 100 miles up these
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pyramidal structures arrayed in a amazing geometry next to this
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huge mile long 1500 foot high epige of a face we found on
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another planet where you would need it because the environment
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of Mars outside is terrible. You can't remember Elton John,
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Not the place to raise your kids.
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You need an archaeology for going to have millions of people
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living on Mars. You need them inside some kind
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of huge building. Well, these structures on Mars
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are raised in their stunning geometry are basically human
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made huge artificial city type structures now millions of years
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old and in ruin and decay. And that's what we tripped over.
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And the fight for the last, you know, 30-40, fifty years.
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I mean, I started this in about what back in 1983, the fight has
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been get to get the government to acknowledge what the data
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from the earliest missions have shown.
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And that's why I think we're on the verge of a major
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breakthrough because politically, we're now so close
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to everything changing because the artificial nature of someone
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constructing things on other planets is not just on Mars.
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It's all over the solar system, as we've seen from other NASA
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missions. But most important, it's right
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in our own backyard on the moon. And again, it's a private
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entrepreneur named Elon Musk and SpaceX and nine artists,
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including I think a couple from Britain, one who's a
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photographer, I'm not mistaken, who we're going to instruct in
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what to look for, what to photograph.
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And in the next couple of years when they make their turn around
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the moon in the Starship that Musk is building, they citizens
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who have not signed any Ndas are going to blow the doors off this
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incredible cover up. And then we are in a totally new
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paradigm. Assuming that's going to happen
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though, Musk is working with NASA at the moment, so why?
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Why would he? If he's going to be the person
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who's pioneering efforts are going to blow the lid on all of
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this stuff? He would be free to do that,
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would he? If he was working with NASAR and
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there was a cover up then then he would have to be part of it
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wouldn't? He, well, he's working on 2
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tracks, right? He has a contract with the
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Artemis program. They just sent the Artemis
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mission on the unmanned journey for 26 days, looping orbits
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around the moon and returning to Earth to test all that
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technology. He has a contract to develop the
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lunar Lander as part of Artemis. OK.
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He has a separate program, his own SpaceX, to take under
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contract now, 9 artists who have been selected whose names are
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now public, you know, public, public events.
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And they are going to go separately from NASA on a
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Starship, on a looping orbital mission around the moon and back
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to Earth sometime at the very end of this year, most likely
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because of the technological developments required, sometime
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in 2024, which is a good year, at least a year, maybe longer,
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ahead of the Artemis mission. So I think it's going to be 9
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civilians looking out the window and taking all kinds of imagery
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with digital cameras and sending it home on Twitter who just
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bought Twitter. Well, he did.
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He's having his problem, I saw. Twitter, Howard.
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So he has an iron proof, ironclad, bulletproof way to get
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the data all over the the human race and all over the world.
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And no one will be able to legally stop him or touch him.
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And that's his grand plan. And that's why he looks like
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he's crazy right now. No, he's crazy like a fox.
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He knows what's out there. How do I know?
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Because one night your audience should love this.
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He and Joe Rogan. You know who?
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Joe Rogan. The Joe Rogan Experience.
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Yeah, yeah, well, Joe Rogan and he sat for like half an hour
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talking about Richard C Oakland and my work.
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And Rogan even had a copy of one of my books to show on screen,
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which of course was all part of a plan.
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There are there, there are there are two forces at work here.
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There's the cover of Crowd and the I'll call it as Holloman did
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the limited hangout crowd. Must is in the limited hangout
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crowd, as is Rogan. The cover of crowd are NASA, the
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government, all governments, by the way, because they've all
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signed on to this. The British government, the
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Japanese, the Indians, the Russians, all of them.
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Otherwise it would be somebody else who blow the doors off.
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It's going to be civilians in Musk, civilian Starship, which
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is rather fascinatingly named, kind of ahead of its time.
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It's going to go, you know, looping around the moon, and
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we're going to provide them with the keys to how to see and
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photograph and indomitably record all the stunning
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artificial structures that are there.
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And we're going to debut all that this coming Sunday night on
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the other side of midnight. I'd, I'd love all of this to be
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exactly it is true and bona fide.
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I I want it to be so. But we'll, we'll see what
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happens. How come I haven't if if Musk is
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mounting this mission with the artists and stuff like that now,
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maybe I've just not been diligent as I should.
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Know that this this they've already selected the civilian
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astronauts. I did have somehow passed me by,
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maybe I didn't match it on pass on.
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Mail and in the London Times. Just Google Musk's nine and
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there are nine of them because it's spearheaded by a a A a
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genius multi billionaire Japanese recording artist.
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I forget his name, but Musk. Basically, he made the deal with
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Musk to take him and eight friends around the moon and then
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must let him in turn pick the other eight artists, which were
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announced just a few weeks ago, one of whom is a very
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illustrious British photographer.
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She has won awards, she's innovative.
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She's not of the normal stripe. In other words, you know, simply
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buying the government line, if we equip her with the right
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tools, which is the technology, the camera, the filter is most
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important and the and the wherewithal, the background to
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know what to look at, look for, there's no way they're going to
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keep her quiet. OK, I've got a, an article here
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from the Independent newspaper, which, you know, I, I like the
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way they write and stuff like this 2018 Elon Musk rocket
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company sending a Japanese billionaire and eight artists
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around the moon in the first private trip to our nearest
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neighbor. So I have mentioned this, but it
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was four years ago. It first appeared in the media.
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They've now picked the astronauts and he just the other
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day he had what was called a wet rehearsal of the Starship
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complete rocket and spacecraft it Boca Chico, TX.
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OK, so you're saying that this is how we're going to get a big
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surprise through this nation, A. Stunning breakthrough, unless
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the South Koreans, which have sent a 1500 LB unmanned
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spacecraft into lunar orbit and they have equipped it with
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cameras which are taking pictures of the glass domes on
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the moon even as I speak, and they're leaking them all over
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their website, but they're just not holding a press conference.
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They put out the images. They even briefed the press on
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the images and they don't say what the images show.
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And of course the world press these days are so damn dumb and
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stupid. Then less an authority figure
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stands in front of them and says this is what you're seeing.
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They haven't a clue as to what they're seeing.
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So, so how come, sorry, I'm jumping in here, but how come
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the Artemis missions, the SLS was developed for them, Orion
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we've just seen successfully test itself out.
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How come all of that stuff is going ahead on schedule as we
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say over here when there was another truth about the moon
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that is going to be blown wide open?
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I mean, how come these these two things are?
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Come together Howard, it last to come together, we're within
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months, not decades, not years, we're within months.
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If you consider 24 months, two years to be a reasonable time
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frame of months, we're within months of it all coming together
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and everybody knowing the question now is going to be who
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blows the doors off 1st? Will there be an official party
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line? Will it be civilians?
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Will it be totally unmanageable? Folks like us who's going to get
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to define the parameters of what is there, what it means and how
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it's going to change humankind. That's where the war is now
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because they've lost the cover up.
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In fact, I'm going to lay out on my show on Sunday how in 2024,
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in the summer of 2024, we have a total solar eclipse that
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literally crosses the country again and it's not going to
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cross. You know, we're not going to
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have an eclipse for the Americans, total solar eclipse
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for like decades afterwards. It's the last chance unless you
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want to travel somewhere. I'm going to lay out in the next
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several shows, because we can't do it all on Sunday, how
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ordinary civilians with ordinary optics, cameras, binoculars,
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telescopes can photograph these artificial structures on the
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moon with their own commercial technology.
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And we will have thousands of independent observers and
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photographers from Earth. We're going to give us a
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stunning preview of what the 9 civilians in Musk Starship lunar
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mission are going to see in the next couple of years.
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We're on the edge, you know, on the edge, Howard.
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I find it all very exciting. But I know that there will be
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listeners to this right now. And you know what I'm going to
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say, because I have said it before, you know, I find it
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exciting and I'd love to see this happen.
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And there will be people who will say, yeah, I'll believe it
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when I see it. Well, they'll see it.
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All they have to do is wait two years.
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Now a lot of people are going to do after we lay out how to do
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it. And it's really simple.
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We'll take these images during the eclipse and then they will
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because we have this social media conflagration all over the
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world. All these TikTok and Twitter and
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Facebook and all these ways to get information to other people.
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Once you get people verifying this independently at the
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civilian level, at the citizen level, at the democratic level,
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it's impossible for the powers that be to keep the, you know,
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thumb in the dam. The.
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Powers that be are still investing billions of our
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dollars and pounds in the explorations that we've gotten
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the helicopter up on Mars, the Artemis missions to the moon,
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and loads of other stuff including the James Webb Space
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Telescope. Why is all of that continuing
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when you say a big truth and a shocking 1 and a surprising 1 is
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about to be unveiled privately or by private means?
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Well, because it's a research is not one thing.
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It's a huge panoply of things. It's, you know, the web
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telescope can't even look at the moon because it can't look back
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toward the sun. It would, it would kill it.
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It would burn out the optics. So the web telescope has its
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role in a much larger research plan to educate and uplift
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humankind. The same with the helicopter on
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Mars. Why do you think they're been
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able to fly this thing so easily and for so long when all the
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forecast beforehand where it was going to maybe not even lift off
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the ground and then it certainly wouldn't last more than a month
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or so, like 3 or 4 flights didn't.
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Didn't you wonder why it's still going?
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Well, I, I think it's been a, a great success.
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I think they had a couple of issues with it, but it's been by
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and large. Question why I'm so?
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I, I don't know, I mean, I know that the most.
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Requirement is much more benign than we've been told.
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OK. So if that's hard to allow them.
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To fly lying about the Martian atmosphere, right?
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So that that's what's allowed them to, for example, the most
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recent missions where the helicopter have been to the
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upland areas, the hills, haven't they?
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Yeah, yes. Because the atmosphere of Mars
24:41
is 10 times denser than they've been telling us for the last 50
24:44
years. I had lunch with the guys name
24:48
was Kolori in the JPL cafeteria back in 1971.
24:56
This was after the 1965 mission of Mariner, Florida fly by Mars.
25:02
I actually did a whole program from the museum in Springfield
25:05
before I joined CBSI was the curator of astronomy and space
25:09
science at the Museum of Science there in Springfield.
25:11
And I set up an an international radio program which was
25:16
nominated for a Peabody. We didn't win and and the hours
25:21
and hours have went gone into the ether.
25:23
My friend Dick Bertel fortunately did a 30 minute edit
25:30
of this program from 1965 when Mariner 4 flew by Mars and we
25:36
have that on record as to what we forecast back then was going
25:41
to happen vis A vis Mars. Well, that mission, in addition
25:44
to taking 22 black and white images and flying past Mars at
25:48
6000 miles, it flew behind the planet as seen from Earth in a
25:53
special experiment that was designed to pass the radio
25:58
signal from the spacecraft through the atmosphere of Mars,
26:02
both as it went behind on one side and came out on the other.
26:06
Those are called occultations. And then they interpreted the
26:11
changes in the radio signal to reflect the atmospheric density
26:16
and pressure of the Martian atmosphere.
26:19
That was the stunning NASA cutting edge experiment in 1965
26:25
which was supposed to tell us to verify the density of the
26:30
Martian atmosphere and give us some indication of its
26:34
composition. And I now can prove that they
26:38
lied that from the get go NASA has been lying about the Martian
26:44
atmosphere because they didn't want anybody to ever imagine
26:47
that there could ever have been life on Mars and certainly not
26:50
people ever going to Mars, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
26:54
When this thing on begins to unravel, Howard, there is no
26:58
limit to the lies that we will find.
27:01
They've been telling all to keep us focused only on Earth and not
27:07
at all interested in what's out there, how it relates to our
27:11
history, who we really are, the things we used to do, the
27:15
stunning, incredible civilization that we used to to
27:19
be before we quote fell before we retreated to one planet and
27:25
have been calling our way back up from, as Arthur Clark used to
27:28
say, the primeval slime. All of that's going to come
27:32
rolling out of the closet because the days of the cover up
27:35
have run to their end. They've run out of things to do
27:38
to cover up everything because there's too much technology, too
27:42
many people leaking, and whole governments like the South
27:45
Koreans have sent a spacecraft to the moon now and they've been
27:49
leaking real images of what's really there and they just
27:53
haven't said anything because they're waiting, obviously, for
27:56
the appropriate political. Timing.
27:59
Now, if my more skeptical listener is shaking his or her
28:02
head right now, I just asked them to just think for a second
28:06
and you know, I have to be the ringmaster in all of this and
28:09
that that's my job. Just think for a second about
28:11
the astonishing stuff that has appeared in mainstream news in
28:14
the last couple of years that we did not think was likely or
28:17
possible. And ask yourself if such things
28:21
can happen, then who knows the extent to which the actual truth
28:27
of what is out there might differ from what we were taught
28:31
when we were kids. And you might, you might
28:33
surprise yourself. I want to ask you about one
28:35
thing, if I could quickly. I've got some questions from
28:38
from listeners here. Not, not very many of them
28:40
because it wasn't meant to be a question show, but Jonathan,
28:44
regular listener to this show. And Jonathan, I can't ask all
28:47
the questions that you sent because we would be here all
28:49
night, but I want to ask this one.
28:51
I've looked at this on your website today.
28:53
You did a show about it last year, almost exactly a year ago,
28:57
the Stonehenge transmissions. Now, I drove past Stonehenge
29:01
just before Christmas. I stayed in Devon with my dear
29:04
sister, and I drove past Stonehenge.
29:06
And I always have to have a little look at the stones.
29:08
I think they're very special for reasons that I don't think I'll
29:11
ever really understand. But did you send transmissions
29:14
from Stonehenge or receive transmissions there?
29:18
Yes, we did. And the gal that you need to
29:20
have on your show, Howard, is Maria Wheatley.
29:24
She's a Brit. She's not too far from you.
29:27
She's done all this archaeology for us.
29:29
We've been working with her for years.
29:31
She took a handheld transceiver into Stonehenge, into the middle
29:36
of Stonehenge. And we did several repeated
29:39
experiments both within and without sending and recording
29:44
what we got back. And their only problem is we
29:47
have them able to successfully decode more than a fraction of
29:51
the signals that we got back. We, we have a, we have a
29:55
colleague in, in Canada who's been working on decoding some of
30:00
this and he's been partially successful.
30:03
But by and large, it's a untapped field of research,
30:07
which is why we, we need more funding.
30:09
I mean, the enterprise mission is basically on a starvation
30:12
diet in terms of a funding. We started this hoping that
30:15
there will be people would stand up and help us.
30:18
And so far, no one has come forth either because they are
30:22
unbelieving of the premise, unbelieving of what our results
30:26
were that we talked about on the show many times and we actually
30:30
played some of the signals or simply they were, you know, kept
30:35
from supporting us. Because, again, this falls in
30:37
the category of those things where you're not supposed to ask
30:41
questions and certainly not supposed to get any answers.
30:44
I think at one point you used a Morse code demodulator or
30:47
decoder and actually received words that you believed were
30:51
from the Gnostic gospels. That was David who who
30:55
interpreted that way. The the actual numerical codes
30:59
were more believable to me. But again, this is a huge body
31:04
of research that is kind of laying fallow and in the last
31:07
year or so because we didn't have the wherewithal and the
31:10
right people didn't show up to help us.
31:13
But again, it hasn't gone away. You know, it's, it's not like we
31:16
we missed a window. It's.
31:18
Not like that you could do anytime.
31:20
Yeah, we, I believe we could. Well, we, we actually chose
31:23
certain key dates in the calendar like solstices and
31:27
equinoxes, because that's why Stonehenge was built as this
31:32
megalithic observatory, because in those parts of the calendar
31:37
year, the physics is different than in other times of the year.
31:41
And we were depending on the, on the theory that whoever is out
31:45
there, and there's a lot of folks out there, they know the
31:49
hyperdimensional physics that I've been talking about for a
31:52
very long time. And it would be the kind of like
31:56
the modus vivende to use that modality to talk to them as
32:02
opposed to just ordinary radio transmissions.
32:06
So that's why we picked Stonehenge.
32:08
And we picked Stonehenge because in an earlier experiment where
32:11
we sent electromagnetic transmissions to the moon from a
32:16
private observatory in Arizona, we got answers back in the form
32:21
of this radio code, quasi Morse code, which gave us the numbers
32:27
directly associated with Stonehenge.
32:30
So it was like whoever we were talking to was sending you basic
32:33
sending us to Stonehenge to continue the experiment.
32:36
So that's when we, you know, got Maria involved.
32:39
And you should have Maria on because she recorded everything
32:42
and she kept notebooks and logs. And so you would have a
32:45
fascinating view time. Send me those contact details,
32:48
I'd be very. Sent you her contact info as
32:51
soon as you're finished with the program, yes.
32:53
Now listen, I told you I got some questions and you know also
32:56
that there are skeptics. So some of the questions come I.
32:58
Love skeptics? Good.
33:00
Well, let's see if we're honest. Let's see.
33:02
Well, I there is no reason to doubt the honesty at all of the
33:06
people who ask these questions. 1 Richard.
33:09
I'll, I'll, I'll summarize the two of these together because
33:12
it's Richard and Phil. OK, Richard basically asks why
33:16
you've clung to beliefs based on old photographs that are just
33:19
bad photographs. And Phil is asking why don't you
33:22
just finally accept that the face on Mars is not real?
33:25
Well, it's it's a thing. I mean, it, you know, it exists.
33:28
Whether it's a face, I think has been the point in question.
33:31
But you know, 22 questions from two people from the same
33:35
perspective Here you're clinging to old beliefs based on bad
33:38
photographs and you feel basically asking, you know, when
33:41
it comes to the face on Mars, why don't you just give up?
33:45
Obviously, neither one of them have looked at our latest
33:47
research, and we published it freely on the Enterprise Mission
33:51
website and the The Other Side of Midnight website.
33:56
So it's not that I'm trying to make a buck on this.
33:58
I'm trying to change human history and put us back on the
34:02
path of progress as opposed to the path of suppression we've
34:06
been on. The most interesting images of
34:09
Cydonia curiously do not come from NASA.
34:13
They come from the European Space Agency, from ESSA, from
34:17
the Mars Express imagery in color that Newcomb early on took
34:24
like complete a mosaic, high resolution, stunningly high
34:29
resolution mosaic of the Sedonia region, including the face on
34:34
Mars. And it's on those images that
34:36
not only can you see details that are not available on the
34:40
NASA data, Gosh, I wonder why, but you see details in color.
34:45
And you see that at some point, some later high tech
34:50
civilization on Mars, after the original that built the face and
34:55
the pyramids, the later civilization put some kind of a
34:59
glass covering over it. And we can still see on
35:04
Newcomb's European Space Agency imagery remnants of the glass
35:11
because of the way glass scatters light and the color.
35:15
So I'm not dealing with only ancient images from Viking.
35:19
We have imagery, which is, I must say, the European data is
35:23
by far the best because it's by far the least censored.
35:27
And unfortunately, Newcomb is no longer with us.
35:30
He was the principal investigator of the German
35:33
camera, which is still functioning and still taking
35:36
breathtaking color imagery of Mars for the Europeans.
35:42
Now I'm here to be the ringmaster.
35:44
We've said that and we know, you know, I think my listener knows
35:47
that. But all I can say is that these
35:50
days we've got people you wouldn't have expected to say
35:53
things like this, saying things like, for example, I, I
35:56
interviewed on my TV show few weeks ago, Professor Harvey Loeb
36:00
postulate, postulating the possibility, you know, the man
36:03
behind the Galileo Project. Abby is avoiding me when I come
36:07
on my show. If you can talk to him, have him
36:09
come on the other side of midnight.
36:10
I'd love to talk to him because he and I were the two
36:13
independent scientists. You get Harvard.
36:15
I'm not at Harvard. Who said that?
36:17
Amua. Amua was an interstellar alien
36:21
extraterrestrial artificial probe, and I have data that Abby
36:26
does not have that he needs for his model because he
36:30
independently said that based on his research it was most likely
36:35
an interstellar artificial probe.
36:37
And he indeed was brave enough to come out and, you know,
36:40
suggest that he also suggested. Bravery.
36:43
Just telling the truth. They don't stand you up against
36:46
the wall and shoot you for telling the truth.
36:49
They do try to get you fired. They tried to get you
36:52
excommunicated. Defunded.
36:54
They tried to get you. Well, that's basically
36:56
excommunicated if you're a scientist who needs grants.
37:00
That's why we now have things like GoFundMe and Patreon and
37:04
whatever the people can fund research apart from institutions
37:10
and get answers that have lain dormant for decades because no
37:14
longer do we all have to feed like little piggies at the
37:18
federal through which governs all the research that they will
37:22
allow and this choose all research they don't want you to
37:26
know about. Read more letters.
37:27
I love the letters. As to questions, I think it's
37:31
Jonathan who said any thoughts on and this isn't one that I was
37:34
going to run past you, but let's let's do it just quickly.
37:38
I always raise my eyebrows and I'm always interested when the
37:41
scientists come out and tell us where the Doomsday Clock is now.
37:44
And as you might know, the Doomsday Clock a few days ago
37:46
edged itself even closer to midnight.
37:49
The Doomsday Clock is this representation of where we stand
37:53
as a human species vis A vis and in reference to our possible
37:58
demise as a species. And the Doomsday Clock has edged
38:01
itself a little closer to midnight.
38:04
I'm not sure how much closer, but you know, a significant
38:07
amount closer to midnight now because of all of the stuff
38:10
that's going down in our world. Have you got any thoughts on
38:13
that? Yeah, of course.
38:15
I mean, the reason the Doomsday Clock has been moved forward to
38:18
very close to midnight. And this started, you know,
38:22
after World War 2 with the development of the atomic bomb
38:25
here in New Mexico. I live north of the, you know,
38:30
the, the test site down at Alamogordo and South of the of
38:34
the, you know, Los Alamos, which is here in northern New Mexico.
38:38
The reason that the citizens for science, I forget who actually
38:44
is the institution now that runs the clock set it up is because
38:47
they looked at atomic weapons and immature human beings and
38:52
they said the two shall they'll never get together and
38:55
ultimately will make a fatal mistake.
38:57
And bingo, there goes there goes the neighborhood.
39:00
They have moved the clock back and forth, back and forth as the
39:03
Cold War had been flowed for decades and decades.
39:06
And now you have a major land war in Europe, the first time in
39:10
70 plus years, Ukraine. And you've got a major leader of
39:15
a major country, Russia, armed to the teeth with nuclear
39:19
weapons, 10s of thousands threatening every Thursday to
39:23
use them in a way that has not been, you know, except for North
39:28
Korea der toe gear for decades. So no wonder that the the guys,
39:34
you know, the scientists who are involved with the with the
39:37
so-called, you know, doomsday clock have said it almost to
39:40
midnight. So what's the solution?
39:43
The solution is to open the system from being a closed
39:47
system where we're all going mad just talking to each other, to
39:51
encompass the solar system and beyond our ancient heritage,
39:56
stunning technologies that make nuclear weapons obsolete, that
40:00
make, you know, coal and oil and fossil fuels obsolete.
40:04
They give us technologies to enhance humanity and to enhance
40:08
the earth, as opposed to pollute it and destroy it.
40:11
And who opened the box? So it gives us the technologies
40:15
to take people into other environments, give them a whole
40:19
new perspective on who human beings used to be, who they can
40:24
become again, and make people like Putin obsolete.
40:29
So you're saying that the key to World Peace is to lift the lid,
40:34
open the sarcophagus or whatever it might be, the storage
40:39
facility full of all of these secrets, which a lot of people
40:42
have claimed for a long time exists the secret to, you know,
40:45
everlasting energy that's there for us for free and all of those
40:50
other things to. Open much longer.
40:52
I mean, what can you do with just a, you know, 4 star and 10
40:55
or whatever? Human beings should live much
40:57
longer than we have been prescribed to live, OK, all
41:02
kinds of medical technology, all kinds of physics, all kinds of
41:05
fundamental research, all kinds of, you know, bringing the world
41:09
to where have nots have an equal chance with haves, where we're
41:13
not fighting over a few scraps like dogs under a table with a
41:17
feast on top that we can never get to.
41:20
But the most important thing, Howard, that connecting,
41:24
reconnecting with our history will, will give us is
41:27
perspective on the fact that every human being on this planet
41:32
is part of a family, a close knit family, infinitely closer
41:39
in relationship, in culture, in background, in perspective, in
41:44
humanity than what's out there. We need to restore the idea of a
41:49
human family and get over the idea that just because you're
41:53
Korean or Afghanistani or Russian or Hindu or Muslim or
41:58
whatever, you're the other and you must be hated and you must
42:02
be destroyed. We need something so big to
42:06
replace the idea that we're all separate fragments with war with
42:10
each other, with a common humanity in the face of
42:14
astonishing potentials that lie just at the moon and are just
42:20
now, with the next few months, within our reach once again.
42:26
So what is going to be the event that opens those floodgates and
42:30
releases this information? It's not one event.
42:33
It's a series of events. OK, I mean, it's already
42:35
started. The leaks have started.
42:37
The South Koreans have probably stunning images which you have
42:40
not seen or heard of or whatever.
42:42
Why? Because they haven't called a
42:44
press conference. We live in a world where unless
42:46
an official sits in front of a camera and says this is reality,
42:50
very few people will get on board.
42:53
And I think they're doing that because going back to Brookings,
42:56
remember the Brookings report that I've talked about, this
42:59
ancient 1950s study funded by the US government that basically
43:03
said that if humanity ever discovered that it wasn't alone,
43:07
it would destroy itself. I think for the same reason that
43:10
Biden has been tiptoeing around supporting Ukraine with weapons
43:15
that would really allow the Ukrainians to drive the invading
43:19
Russians off, you know, Ukrainian soil because of fear
43:23
of nuclear war, That they've been tiptoeing around the idea
43:27
of extraterrestrials because of Brookings.
43:30
That basically said, if human beings really are unfettered in
43:34
knowing that we aren't alone and that we have relatives out there
43:38
and there are really aliens, we will destroy ourselves.
43:41
I think that's been a lie that's been propaganda again to
43:45
propagate those in power who can be king of a closed Earth system
43:51
and will fall by the wayside once the system is open.
43:55
Why do you think the new director of NASA and NASA as an
43:58
organization is now taking an interest in UFOs?
44:03
Because he already knows they're real.
44:05
Remember Bill Nelson went into space.
44:07
Bill Nelson had the what was the, the book the guy in MIT Rd.
44:11
called the overview effect. Bill Nelson was a civilian
44:15
astronaut on a shuttle program. Remember that?
44:18
Now he's come back and he's head of NASA.
44:21
He is doing things behind the scenes to architect this
44:25
unveiling. If you if you look carefully at
44:28
the imagery from the Artemis Orion spacecraft mission.
44:32
I know that that was heavily commented on a few months ago,
44:36
yeah. Oh, it shows stunning glass
44:38
structure. You just have to know how to
44:39
look. In fact, it shows data that
44:44
supports Alan Bean's incredible so-called fantasy paintings of
44:51
his sojourn back during Apollo 12 when he and Pete Conrad
44:56
walked on the moon. You know that Alan Bean was an
45:00
astronaut, right? And when he came home, he became
45:02
this stunning, you know, fine artist.
45:06
And he painted hundreds and hundreds of paintings.
45:08
And they underwent a kind of transmogrification where we
45:13
started out, you know, with the landscapes being dead and Gray
45:16
and black and white and all that.
45:18
And then at some point back in the 1990s, all his luminar
45:23
paintings of him on all the crews prancing around on the
45:27
moon suddenly took on incredibly lyrical colors.
45:33
He called this his Monet moon. Why do you think Howard he did
45:38
that? I don't know, I might can't
45:41
guess. Because that's what he saw, and
45:44
the blocks and the suppression of his right brain went away all
45:51
over the blocks and suppression of his left brain.
45:54
And because he was an artist, whatever brainwashing the
45:58
astronauts went through, and I have documentation that they
46:02
were brainwashed, they were literally mind controlled.
46:05
So they didn't remember what they really saw and did.
46:08
It came through him because he was an artist at heart.
46:12
When he was in the, you know, naval flight school, he was
46:15
doing art. So they took an artist to the
46:18
moon. He comes home, his left brain is
46:21
suppressed because of the programming, but it came out in
46:24
his right brain art. And his art is stunningly
46:28
beautiful and incredibly accurate.
46:31
And on the other side of Midnight website, you should
46:34
give out our website outsideofmidnight.com.
46:37
I saw it. You should.
46:39
We've done the comparison of his lyrical paintings and the actual
46:43
Orion imagery and they look identical.
46:47
Alan Bean's work is going to go through the roof.
46:51
And we have had donated as a tax deductible contribution to the
46:56
Enterprise mission, one of Alan Bean signed prints signed by 24
47:03
of the Mercury, Gemini, Apollo and Shuttle astronauts.
47:08
And we're auctioning this off to the highest bidder, whoever
47:12
donates the most money to our Enterprise mission research to
47:16
get this now out into public at every level we can.
47:21
They will get this sign print, which is going to, you know,
47:25
escalate in price enormously as soon as everybody realizes, Oh
47:31
my God, Alan Bean, first artist, astronaut on the moon as part of
47:36
Apollo. It was trying from the 90s
47:39
onward till his day he died to tell us and paint the truth
47:44
about the real moon, which is a moon under incredible rainbow
47:48
glittering glass prism effects because of the refraction of
47:54
light from the sun through the layers of the domes.
47:58
Did he ever confirm that in his lifetime?
48:00
When I was giving my first major lunar briefing at the National
48:06
Press Club back in the early 90s in Washington, DCI had a
48:12
colleague who knew Alan Alan Bean.
48:15
First person was a friend and after the press conference my
48:20
friend went to Bean and said is hoagland nuts.
48:25
And Bean said to him, no he's not, but of course they would
48:30
have killed him if he told the truth back then.
48:33
Remember, they kill people. There's a huge litany of people
48:37
who have died under very bizarre, mysterious there's.
48:40
Certainly a lot of stuff to be read online about people around
48:42
the space program who have died and about look at that question.
48:47
You know the story of Pete Conrad, who was the commander of
48:50
Alan Bean on Apollo 12? Remind me?
48:54
Alan Bean and Pete Conrad landed on the Moon in November of 1969
48:59
in Apollo 12. Second mission after Apollo 11,
49:02
after Neil Armstrong. And decades later, Conrad was
49:08
going to give an address to a moon industrial conference in
49:13
Houston. And he loved to ride
49:15
motorcycles. And so he was out riding in
49:17
California a couple of days before the conference with some
49:20
friends. And he took a turn and he slid
49:23
off the edge and he took a tumble.
49:26
And his friends insisted that he go to a hospital to be checked
49:32
out. I mean, he was a veteran
49:33
motorcycle rider. Motorcycle riders know what to
49:36
do in on motorcycles so that, you know, it's like being an
49:39
Acrobat. You, you, you, you, you roll.
49:42
You kind of roll with it. You don't resist it.
49:44
You know, he was, he was a veteran, he was a fighter pilot.
49:47
He'd been in all kinds of incredible dangerous situations
49:50
during Korean, during, you know, that that thing after World War
49:54
2, they take him to the hospital, he goes in and he
49:58
dies, mysteriously dies. He should not have died.
50:06
What was he going to do? 2 days later at the Houston
50:08
Conference, he was he was reporting that he was going to
50:12
announce some kind of breakthrough that would make
50:15
industrialization of the moon and this transfer of power
50:22
upwards to the next level. That had never been announced
50:26
before and I think he was murdered now.
50:29
Can I? That's a very heavy thing too.
50:32
Of course it is. Remember, they tried to kill me,
50:35
Howard? They literally sat in a hotel
50:37
room in Florida. And in 19 you had a heart
50:40
attack. I was that was given a heart
50:42
attack through the wall by some technology and Robin rescued me
50:47
and some advice I had from an old timer decades before who
50:51
told me what to do if anybody ever tried to do this also
50:55
rescued me because I took steps in that hotel room before the
50:59
beam could finish its work. But they gave me a heart attack
51:03
afterwards in the hospital. The doctor said I don't know why
51:06
you had a heart attack. You're, you're in perfect
51:07
health, couldn't understand from the machines, from the analysis
51:12
of my veins, my cardiovascular system, my heart, why I should
51:17
have had a heart attack because it was induced well.
51:22
And I know you. You said that on many shows,
51:24
including some of mine. Yeah, many times before.
51:27
And, you know, I hear what you say.
51:29
I cannot verify what you said about that case, the case of
51:32
Conrad. You know, everything that I'm
51:34
reading here and I've got my computer with me is saying that
51:37
this was a tragic accident. But the the recounts also say
51:43
that he was wearing a helmet crash helmet at the time, which
51:46
you should do when you're on a motorbike and was driving to the
51:49
speed limit. So Alan looked at that and said,
51:53
obviously, well, I'm not going to come out and say what I saw,
51:56
so I'm going to do it in my paintings and his paintings.
51:59
Anyway. What we have this fundraising
52:02
campaign, we've got the sign print, 24 astronauts a a Bean
52:06
print, which is going to escalate in extraordinary value
52:10
as soon as the world realizes what Bean was trying to tell the
52:13
world, as will all of his other works, his other paintings, and
52:17
he was very prolific and they're stunningly accurate to what the
52:22
imagery shows. I've got on our on our other
52:25
side of midnight websites, a side by side comparison of a
52:29
astronaut photograph from Apollo 17 and then one of Bean's
52:34
paintings side by side. And if I didn't tell you which
52:39
was a painting and which was a photograph, you could not tell
52:44
which is which. And what did I do to the
52:47
official Apollo image of the surface of the moon?
52:50
You superimpose them. No, all I did was turn up the
52:53
color. The way NASA has been hiding all
52:56
this is they've been suppressing the color.
52:58
It's called desaturation. Now, why have they not been
53:02
merely made black and white images of the color images?
53:06
Because then that could be that, that that could be detected by
53:10
outside observers, by scientists and photo technicians.
53:15
So since 99.999% of people who look at these pictures never
53:20
touched them in an imaging program, they don't know how
53:24
they look at them as presented. And they appear to be very
53:28
colorful because you got red stripes on astronauts, you know,
53:33
space suits and whatever. But if you really turn the color
53:36
up and color balance it with a white balance, which is the suit
53:40
itself, bingo. You find that the moon is
53:43
incredibly colorful in the photographs from Apollo, as in
53:48
the imagery that that being painted in his paintings.
53:53
And sadly, he's not with us here now to ask about any of that,
53:56
which is unfortunately works. Lives.
53:59
On that is work lives on and you're going to be and I have a.
54:02
Feeling that there there was an agreement among all the
54:05
astronauts who were basically able to come out of their fugue
54:09
and their funk and their programming eventually.
54:15
And they realize what they would have been done to them.
54:17
And they realize what would happen if they spoke about it
54:21
out loud. Because they are only an
54:23
individual and the deep state has very long tentacles.
54:27
But they allowed being to be their spokesperson through his
54:31
art. That's why he ultimately went on
54:34
to represent not just his own mission, Apollo 12, but Apollo
54:39
11, you know, 1314151617. And I think he became the quiet
54:48
spokesperson for the real moon from the Apollo astronauts
54:52
because the paintings could, like Emily Dickinson, tell all
54:57
the truth, but tell it slant until the appropriate time.
55:02
And that time is now. We are on a countdown to people
55:06
being shocked by what is really on the moon and how they
55:11
themselves can verify it during the eclipse in 2024 from Earth.
55:17
They don't have to be 1 of the 9 civilian astronauts that Musk
55:21
has selected, but those people will get a special educational
55:26
archive from the Enterprise mission to prepare them for what
55:30
they're going to see when, as 9 privileged civilians, for the
55:35
first time in a very long time, they were going to get chance to
55:38
look down on the real moon. And we will outfit them with the
55:42
right optics and the right cameras and the right technology
55:46
so they can record what's really there and send it back to Earth
55:51
for all the world through Musk's own Twitter.
55:57
So will you regard that as being the the culmination of all your
56:01
work over the years and the vindication of things you've
56:04
been trying to say? What grief?
56:05
Howard just begins. Wouldn't you like to find the
56:09
libraries? Wouldn't you like to find what
56:11
our ancient ancestor were trying to say and do as they created
56:16
this architectural stunning set of stuff?
56:21
What their life was like, what their politics were like, what
56:24
they thought of God and the universe and other dimensions.
56:28
Everything. No, absolutely, totally.
56:30
And look. That's where things begin.
56:32
Because then the next mission, remember the Artemis program, is
56:36
to land human beings, men and women, to establish a permanent
56:41
lunar base at the South Pole, right?
56:45
Right. Which will encompass more than
56:48
just Americans, right? Well, if the South Koreans are
56:54
already playing and sending the right technology, the right
56:57
cameras to take the right pictures to show the ruins,
57:01
don't you think the South Koreans want to be part of the
57:03
base? I would suspect so, but this?
57:07
Don't you think their their main objective will be to find the
57:11
libraries? And I got to tell you, based on
57:13
the analysis of the imagery of the moon that we've looked at
57:16
all the way from Apollo all the way through the Japanese and the
57:20
Chinese missions, the most protected parts of the moon,
57:24
where we're likely to find stuff still available, is at the north
57:29
and the South Pole or on the far side.
57:33
It's difficult technologically with current rocket technology
57:37
to reach easily the far side, but you can reach the South
57:41
Pole, which is why that's where all the nations talking about
57:45
going back to the moon are talking about landing.
57:48
The problem is if you try to land at the South Pole without
57:51
knowing how to get through the remaining glass domes, you will
57:55
crash. Which is why the South Korean
57:58
mission, the spacecraft 1500 LB spacecraft carries a 33 LB
58:04
camera called a shadow Cam from NASA and they are photographing
58:09
the permanently shadowed craters at the Moon's South Pole for
58:13
Artemis. So they can obviously see where
58:16
the glass is and see where the holes are and land the
58:19
spacecraft through the holes in the Dome, of which there are
58:24
many. Because it's very, very ancient,
58:26
very eroded, very gossamer like in certain areas.
58:33
And it is possible to safely get down and back up, as Apollo
58:37
demonstrated by landing on the near side at the equator where
58:42
the glass is thinnest and most eroded and basically has the
58:46
consistency of cigarette smoke. But all we can do with this tick
58:51
is wait and see. And you know, I'm very.
58:54
Like hell we're not waiting at all.
58:56
And our campaign begins this coming Sunday evening. 10:00
59:01
Mountain time. 9:00 Pacific Time on Sunday night, the 29th on the
59:06
other side of midnight. Right, I'm trying to work out
59:09
the timings, but that is early hours of the morning in the
59:11
United Kingdom after my TV show. All right, just to conclude
59:15
this, a couple of things that I don't know whether you're going
59:17
to want to talk about this, but you know, I promised that I
59:20
would ask this listener called Tony in Spain, said that
59:24
apparently, and I haven't heard you saying this on the other
59:27
side a bit, but he's heard you saying that you've received
59:30
signs and signals from from your partner, the wonderful force of
59:34
nature who I knew Robin, Robin Falkov, Dr. Robin Falkov.
59:40
Tony wants to know, could you explain what happened?
59:42
Has this continued the signs and signals and did you pursue this
59:46
with with, I don't know mediums or people like that?
59:49
If you don't want to talk about this, that's fine.
59:52
I don't yet know how Howard to reasonably talk about it.
59:57
It's very private, obviously very emotional.
1:00:01
I didn't want to believe it in the beginning.
1:00:05
It tells me that she's out there somewhere.
1:00:08
And if she's out there, then everybody else who quote dies is
1:00:11
out there. This is why we need a paradigm
1:00:13
shift. I am sure our ancient ancestors
1:00:16
who built these stunning stuff all over the solar system knew
1:00:21
so much more about life and death and what really happens.
1:00:25
I'm coming to almost believe that we're living in an
1:00:28
environment where it's broken, where we don't really know what
1:00:33
reality is like because it's been artificially conscripted,
1:00:37
maintained. We're kind of like in some kind
1:00:41
of a, a, a, some kind of box, some kind of prison.
1:00:45
Did you ever read the works of Charles Fort?
1:00:49
You know that, Charles Fort. I've heard the name of.
1:00:52
That's all I've got to be. He was a 19 teens, twenties,
1:00:56
30s, a newspaper reporter who would collect all kinds of
1:00:59
anomalous stories from. Oh, as in the Fortian times?
1:01:02
As in the Fortian times. And, you know, well, he wrote a
1:01:05
book called The Book of the Damned having nothing to do with
1:01:09
heaven and hell, OK. In his purview, in his language
1:01:13
of the time, the damned were those things that humans are not
1:01:18
supposed to touch or know that are taboo, kind of like
1:01:22
censorship, kind of like now. And there's reality of the solar
1:01:26
system. And we're not supposed to know
1:01:28
because whoever makes those decisions says no, these are
1:01:31
this is how we keep, you know, human, human beings down on the
1:01:34
farm. Well, he wrote this book, the
1:01:36
Book of the Dam. And his conclusion, and
1:01:38
remember, he was a newspaper guy.
1:01:40
He was a generalist. Was that we were property that
1:01:44
some extraterrestrial force or agency or entity or entities
1:01:49
plural kind of thinks it owns humanity and it gives us spoon
1:01:55
feeds us little dribs and drabs of a much larger more
1:02:00
extraordinary reality. Well, over the last four years
1:02:05
since Robin passed away, she has been able to give me some signs
1:02:11
that that reality that much bigger.
1:02:15
This is what's really going on is actually true.
1:02:18
The problem is I cannot scientifically verify it.
1:02:23
So it becomes just another, you know, story and million stories
1:02:27
of the naked city. I, I, I, I can't get independent
1:02:31
scientific confirmation. I've been working on ways to do
1:02:34
that. And part of it is, is, is kind
1:02:38
of like looking at the totality of all the things that she has
1:02:42
created and caused to happen to see if I can translate this for
1:02:47
other people so that they can start seeing the same kind of
1:02:52
signs in their own lives. And I'm not talking about
1:02:55
mediums and channelling and past life regressions and all of
1:02:59
that. I'm talking about something
1:03:01
totally different. So I'm not really ready to talk
1:03:05
about the details publicly. I have given, you know, obvious
1:03:09
witness that this has been going on.
1:03:12
I know it's her. I know it's her weird, wacky
1:03:15
sense of humor. And I'll just have to leave it
1:03:19
at that. But, you know, it's, it's kind
1:03:21
of like an unfinished something with more details to come.
1:03:26
Well, I think there must be a lot of comfort to be had from
1:03:29
that and I believe we go on and. Bittersweet because she's not
1:03:33
here and it's so awful, but at least she's somewhere.
1:03:37
Exactly. And I think, you know, like I
1:03:40
say, there is some degree. This incredible wave of
1:03:46
pestilence that has overtaken the human race, all those people
1:03:50
are also out there somewhere. And I believe that part of what
1:03:56
opening the door to our ancient past, our ancient wisdom and
1:04:01
those ancient libraries are going to provide us is the fact
1:04:04
that there is a key to connecting these two realities
1:04:09
back together again. Because I'm coming to believe,
1:04:13
again, based on evidence that I can't detail because we don't
1:04:16
have the time right now, that these two worlds were
1:04:19
artificially sundered. And part of our mission as a
1:04:24
human species is to put them back together.
1:04:28
And the keys to that is what's lying on the moon.