Latest / Luke's English Podcast / Joe Rogan Experience _2351 - James McCann
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- 0:03Speaker 1: Check it out.
- 0:03Speaker 2: But Joe Regan Experience Train My Day, Joe.
- 0:07Speaker 3: Rogan podcast by night, all day, my pleasure.
- 0:16Speaker 2: It's a joy.
- 0:17Speaker 3: It's a joy to have you, sir. I've been having
- 0:20Speaker 3: a good time hanging out with you at the club.
- 0:21Speaker 2: So it's been great. Felt like we got this is
- 0:23Speaker 2: very ah man, I'm trying not to spin out. I
- 0:27Speaker 2: have watched this on a phone before. This is great.
- 0:30Speaker 3: Well, it's weird for me that it's weird for people,
- 0:32Speaker 3: because to me, it's still the same thing. It's just
- 0:35Speaker 3: sitting down talking to people. I've gotten so used to it.
- 0:38Speaker 3: Even when it's like Trump or Elon or some fucking
- 0:43Speaker 3: huge cultural figure, it's still.
- 0:45Speaker 2: At least one time.
- 0:46Speaker 3: I spun out a bunch of times in the early days.
- 0:49Speaker 3: I still spin out every now and then, like uh,
- 0:52Speaker 3: you know, like like Mel Gibson's on the podcast. That's
- 0:56Speaker 3: really Mel Gibson, Mike Tyson. That's another one.
- 0:59Speaker 2: Yeah, he was was this where he said he became
- 1:01Speaker 2: a rict when he wanted to beat people up.
- 1:04Speaker 3: That was in California.
- 1:06Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, that.
- 1:07Speaker 3: Was a classic.
- 1:08Speaker 2: It's a classic old time great moment.
- 1:12Speaker 3: He was. He was scaring the ship out of me.
- 1:16Speaker 2: Man I spent out. When I first got to the
- 1:17Speaker 2: club I was going. It was every week I would die.
- 1:20Speaker 3: It's weird. Right.
- 1:21Speaker 2: When I first met Adam Egot, I went, I know,
- 1:25Speaker 2: mister Egot, I've seen you denied the Holocaust.
- 1:31Speaker 3: Not really, we should be real clear.
- 1:33Speaker 2: No, he was just.
- 1:35Speaker 3: It's a norm McDonald bit.
- 1:37Speaker 2: He features in that book a lot.
- 1:39Speaker 3: Well, Adam's an amazing guy. Yeah, he's the reason. He's
- 1:42Speaker 3: one of the reasons why I went back to the
- 1:44Speaker 3: store when I was banned from the store for seven years.
- 1:47Speaker 3: Adam King for seven years. Yeah, well I banned myself
- 1:51Speaker 3: for seven years. They banned me. They were gonna ban
- 1:52Speaker 3: me for like a few weeks. I'm like, fuck, yeah,
- 1:54Speaker 3: you like, nay, what did you do? This is the
- 1:58Speaker 3: whole carlosman Sea thing.
- 1:59Speaker 2: They ban you for that. Yes, you won the qudte
- 2:02Speaker 2: of public opinion on that.
- 2:03Speaker 3: Well, not only did I not really get banned, the
- 2:06Speaker 3: guy who banned me was eventually fired. He was the
- 2:08Speaker 3: manager there. But Mitzi gave me a spot that night.
- 2:12Speaker 3: It's like, before they called me to tell me I
- 2:15Speaker 3: was banned, Mitzi was going through a lot of health problems, right,
- 2:18Speaker 3: you know, Mitzy was. I was very close with her,
- 2:21Speaker 3: so I called her when the whole men see a
- 2:23Speaker 3: thing happened, and I said, listen, this is this guy's
- 2:25Speaker 3: been a problem. It's a real issue. People are worried
- 2:28Speaker 3: about doing material in front of him. Yeah, like this
- 2:31Speaker 3: is a giant problem. And you know, I told her
- 2:34Speaker 3: the whole thing with the video, and she's like, all right,
- 2:37Speaker 3: well just keep away from them. What time do you
- 2:40Speaker 3: want to go up tonight? And I said when do
- 2:42Speaker 3: you want me to go up? And she said how
- 2:43Speaker 3: about ten thirty or whatever it was? And I said,
- 2:45Speaker 3: thank you, okay, I love you. Bye. We said bye,
- 2:49Speaker 3: And then like fucking an hour or two hours later,
- 2:52Speaker 3: I get a call from this manager telling me that
- 2:56Speaker 3: I'm banned from the store for two weeks. And I
- 2:59Speaker 3: was like, what, I go for two weeks for? I
- 3:03Speaker 3: go listen to me right now, I'm not coming back.
- 3:05Speaker 3: I go, I'm not coming back. And you're making a
- 3:08Speaker 3: decision that's gonna fuck this club up because you're choosing
- 3:13Speaker 3: to take the side of plagiarism, yes, over someone who's
- 3:16Speaker 3: exposing it, like the agents won't expose it. They're making
- 3:19Speaker 3: a shit ton of money, and if the comedy store
- 3:22Speaker 3: is not going to side with the artists. I'm like, listen,
- 3:25Speaker 3: this is the same conversation I had with my agent.
- 3:27Speaker 3: I lost my agent too for that.
- 3:31Speaker 2: I feel like that those are both important moments in
- 3:33Speaker 2: that like everybody seems to have a problem with their
- 3:37Speaker 2: agent five them, but also the number of people who
- 3:39Speaker 2: have been banned from comedy clubs.
- 3:40Speaker 3: I was.
- 3:41Speaker 2: Brian Simpson has told me about how he got banned
- 3:43Speaker 2: for ages when he was homeless. Who there was like, yeah,
- 3:48Speaker 2: he got people club store.
- 3:50Speaker 3: He was he had some sort of an issue with
- 3:54Speaker 3: someone there. And this was like when Brian wasn't Brian
- 3:58Speaker 3: Simpson from Netflix. Yeah, it's like Brian Simpson up and
- 4:02Speaker 3: coming door guy that people go, oh, that guy's funny.
- 4:04Speaker 3: But like, if you get a run a foul with
- 4:08Speaker 3: certain dism trying.
- 4:09Speaker 2: To avoid I did this in Australia a lot.
- 4:10Speaker 3: You ran a foul.
- 4:11Speaker 2: I was a problem and I couldn't work in certain
- 4:16Speaker 2: cities for some time just because I was, I think unpleasant.
- 4:20Speaker 3: What were you doing wrong?
- 4:21Speaker 2: You know? I started comedy, I would go around telling
- 4:23Speaker 2: people that they socked and I should quit. And I
- 4:25Speaker 2: went to like the head of the Melbourne Comedy Festival.
- 4:27Speaker 2: I was. I was in the comedy competition. There was
- 4:29Speaker 2: like my fourth gig, and I was like, you're picking
- 4:32Speaker 2: all the wrong people to win. These are what these
- 4:33Speaker 2: guys are better, and it just anyway we grow all that.
- 4:38Speaker 2: I was also eighteen and I was, yeah, oh I
- 4:41Speaker 2: get it very No, it's a lot of feud. It's
- 4:43Speaker 2: a lot of telling people that they socked. Well.
- 4:44Speaker 3: When you enter into comedy, you know a lot of
- 4:47Speaker 3: times people treat it weirdly like sports, you know, like
- 4:51Speaker 3: they talk shit playing basketball, so they try to talk
- 4:53Speaker 3: shit doing comedy and it's like it's weird.
- 4:57Speaker 2: I've gotten better at it. I think I've purged it
- 4:59Speaker 2: from but sometimes.
- 5:01Speaker 3: Well, it depends on the environment you're in. If you're
- 5:03Speaker 3: in an environment where a lot of people are doing that,
- 5:05Speaker 3: it's not fun.
- 5:06Speaker 2: But this is I find it easy here because people
- 5:08Speaker 2: are I don't want to I don't want to say
- 5:10Speaker 2: that everyone in Australia is bad at comedy. There are
- 5:12Speaker 2: many great comics, but I could not, for the life
- 5:15Speaker 2: of like. There there were times where it's like, oh,
- 5:16Speaker 2: this could be helpful for your career to get in
- 5:19Speaker 2: with someone and have them god, And it's like I
- 5:21Speaker 2: just hated everybody's comedy that I meant and hung out with,
- 5:26Speaker 2: and people who were great would often leave or not
- 5:29Speaker 2: be around.
- 5:30Speaker 3: Australia is kind of a difference.
- 5:31Speaker 2: We've got great people out there, but we listen.
- 5:33Speaker 3: You got Jim Jeffries. Yes, I think you're the funniest
- 5:36Speaker 3: guy that's ever come out of Australia.
- 5:37Speaker 2: Well believe that now we have Barry Humphries will never
- 5:39Speaker 2: be better. Okay, you know Barry Humphries. No, the first
- 5:43Speaker 2: you tried to make act.
- 5:45Speaker 3: I think we watched a clip once in the green room,
- 5:47Speaker 3: but you know the problem is the green room is
- 5:49Speaker 3: so loud.
- 5:50Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 5:51Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 5:52Speaker 2: Watcher was the man. He would dress up like Dave Medna,
- 5:54Speaker 2: who's in the seventies is conservative man, dress up like
- 5:57Speaker 2: a housewife, like a very dowdy drag act. And it
- 6:00Speaker 2: was like super funny. Really broke through in the UK,
- 6:02Speaker 2: and then the festival turned their back on him. He
- 6:04Speaker 2: started the Melbourne Comedy Festival and then he made some
- 6:07Speaker 2: like trans Remark and Hannah Gadsby. I think it was like,
- 6:11Speaker 2: I'm not taking this award in his name.
- 6:13Speaker 3: Okay, changed the award Funny Australia.
- 6:16Speaker 2: I lose out to Hannah as well. You forget about Hannah.
- 6:18Speaker 2: Hannah was a great club act. I tell this to
- 6:20Speaker 2: people all the time. No one wants to believe it.
- 6:23Speaker 3: Well, listen, man, it's just she did a different thing.
- 6:26Speaker 3: A lot of people got mad at that, but I
- 6:28Speaker 3: don't get mad at things that are not for me.
- 6:30Speaker 3: It's not it's pointless.
- 6:32Speaker 2: I think it was like a revolutionary act for Americans
- 6:35Speaker 2: because you don't have comedy festivals in the same way here.
- 6:37Speaker 2: But like everyone in Australia was doing the I Got
- 6:40Speaker 2: Raped show or that I Wanted to commit suicide show.
- 6:43Speaker 2: Oh really, yeah you show? You know, everyone does an hour.
- 6:45Speaker 2: That's the only way you can. There's only five cities,
- 6:47Speaker 2: so the comedy festivals are the only way you can
- 6:49Speaker 2: really break through and make money. There's five clubs and
- 6:51Speaker 2: once you've done touring them, you've got nothing. So everybody,
- 6:53Speaker 2: you have to have a new hour every year. There
- 6:56Speaker 2: was the man. There's been some great I was molested
- 6:59Speaker 2: shows chat at Corey White for one of the greatest.
- 7:02Speaker 2: I was Malista shows ever who Dave Quirk had the
- 7:05Speaker 2: I had an a fair shot? That was great. Dad's
- 7:08Speaker 2: Got cancer, Big show, Big Shot Mom died when I
- 7:11Speaker 2: was young, so it's.
- 7:13Speaker 3: Sort of like more like a spoken word thing. Then
- 7:16Speaker 3: you would say stand up.
- 7:17Speaker 2: Comedy if you just no one's even people do all
- 7:21Speaker 2: the jokes they were at that year, which gets you
- 7:23Speaker 2: to like thirty five minutes. Then you tell a ten
- 7:25Speaker 2: minute very sad story then and then I finished my
- 7:30Speaker 2: chicken carry and I thought I'm ready to die. And
- 7:33Speaker 2: then then you bring it back with a gag at
- 7:34Speaker 2: the end and yeah, and that was like standard. Yeah,
- 7:39Speaker 2: it's still going on to this day. There's a lot
- 7:40Speaker 2: of that and I could never do it.
- 7:43Speaker 3: Yeah, you're I don't. I couldn't imagine you doing that.
- 7:46Speaker 3: You're so like funny heavy, like your your comedy is
- 7:50Speaker 3: very funny heavy. You know.
- 7:52Speaker 2: It feels important for comedy, fucking most important.
- 7:55Speaker 3: Yeah, it's fun to get interesting ideas out there, it
- 7:58Speaker 3: really is. It's to talk about interesting subjects, but it's
- 8:03Speaker 3: gotta be funny.
- 8:05Speaker 2: I mean when you have a theme.
- 8:06Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 8:07Speaker 2: Colin Quinn does this all the time, and it's great
- 8:09Speaker 2: he does like that. Oh yeah, I've got any therapy show,
- 8:11Speaker 2: rich blues, think History of America or New York is great.
- 8:15Speaker 3: He's a genius at it. He's probably the best at
- 8:17Speaker 3: it about like telling interesting subject matter, using interesting subject matter,
- 8:23Speaker 3: telling you things you didn't know with comedy. He yeah,
- 8:26Speaker 3: and highlighting the ridiculousness of it all.
- 8:28Speaker 2: He was at the club and that was that was crazy.
- 8:31Speaker 3: It's great.
- 8:32Speaker 2: It's just a time is usually like time is dragging
- 8:34Speaker 2: on when people are on stage and you check, hell
- 8:36Speaker 2: it's gone. Even if it's great and you go, I
- 8:38Speaker 2: thought we were at the twenty minute mark. It's been
- 8:40Speaker 2: six minutes or something disappears.
- 8:42Speaker 3: Really blew me away. Is Jimmy Carr? Yeah, Oh my god,
- 8:46Speaker 3: he was so on when he was here. He was
- 8:49Speaker 3: doing new stuff, yeah with the pages, but the polish,
- 8:55Speaker 3: Like while he's doing the new stuff, he's so good
- 8:58Speaker 3: off the cuff that even if the new stuff was
- 9:01Speaker 3: going sideways, he figured out a way to turn it around.
- 9:04Speaker 3: I wish and would address it and like, oh, he
- 9:07Speaker 3: was so good.
- 9:07Speaker 2: He's he teaches it too.
- 9:12Speaker 3: He teaches it. He has a program that they actually
- 9:14Speaker 3: ran at the Mothership for up and coming comedy, teach it.
- 9:17Speaker 2: I'm always glary of that.
- 9:19Speaker 3: I don't think you could teach comedy necessarily, but I
- 9:22Speaker 3: think you could teach You could learn how he does it,
- 9:25Speaker 3: and you can learn how certain people do it. And
- 9:27Speaker 3: I think some of that you can apply.
- 9:30Speaker 2: And comedy heroin Yeah, and put your hair right over
- 9:34Speaker 2: your face.
- 9:35Speaker 3: I think you can. What you can do, though, is
- 9:37Speaker 3: teach work ethic. Yeah, And I think that's half the battle.
- 9:41Speaker 3: Half the battle is just sitting down and actually writing.
- 9:45Speaker 3: And everyone comes up with an excuse. It's like a
- 9:48Speaker 3: cold plunge. Everybody comes up with an excuse whether they
- 9:51Speaker 3: don't want a cold plunge. And everybody comes up with
- 9:53Speaker 3: an excuse why they don't write in front of a
- 9:55Speaker 3: computer or on a piece of paper. They always write
- 9:58Speaker 3: only on stage.
- 9:59Speaker 2: I mean doing the same thing over and over again.
- 10:01Speaker 2: Was I for I don't know seven eight years. At
- 10:04Speaker 2: the start, I struggled to do it. I had no
- 10:06Speaker 2: I had like five bad hours of comedy. And it
- 10:10Speaker 2: wasn't until I probably impregnated my wife. It was like,
- 10:13Speaker 2: I should I should make sure it's a good five
- 10:17Speaker 2: really boil us down through a good five minutes. So
- 10:19Speaker 2: I'm in real trouble.
- 10:20Speaker 3: Well, sometimes it's something like that has to happen in
- 10:23Speaker 3: your life where you really take it seriously. Because we
- 10:25Speaker 3: all know comics that like we started with, We're like,
- 10:28Speaker 3: oh my god, this guy's gonna be huge. Yeah, And
- 10:30Speaker 3: for whatever reason they didn't put in the work, they
- 10:34Speaker 3: fucked off. They self sabotaged.
- 10:36Speaker 2: Every town you go to this the guy who, yeah,
- 10:39Speaker 2: is gonna be big.
- 10:40Speaker 3: I think if we can encourage more people, we can
- 10:43Speaker 3: make less of that. And I think we can give
- 10:45Speaker 3: more people a chance because I think we all could
- 10:48Speaker 3: have been that person who quit.
- 10:50Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 10:51Speaker 3: And I know in the beginning I thought about quit
- 10:53Speaker 3: a bunch of times. One of the things that helped
- 10:55Speaker 3: me not quit is I tore my acl okay, so
- 11:00Speaker 3: I couldn't train or compete anymore. Yeah, because I was
- 11:03Speaker 3: still like kind of on the fence of whether I'd
- 11:06Speaker 3: go back to fighting or because I was terrible at comedy.
- 11:09Speaker 3: I was I was like good every now and again.
- 11:11Speaker 3: Away from you, I was like, Okay, I can't fight anymore.
- 11:15Speaker 3: I need to get surgery. I gotta take this seriously.
- 11:18Speaker 3: And I got to really pick one thing and I
- 11:21Speaker 3: completely stopped competing. So it was like a year into comedy.
- 11:26Speaker 3: So that was an important thing. Like I needed a
- 11:29Speaker 3: thing where I was like, Okay, I've got no options now,
- 11:32Speaker 3: Like I can't just enter into a kickboxing tournament and say,
- 11:34Speaker 3: fuck comedy, this is too hard. Yeah, and it's just
- 11:38Speaker 3: there was. It was a weird thing. It was like
- 11:40Speaker 3: I had to make a complete mind shift from someone
- 11:43Speaker 3: who didn't care at all about other people's opinions, someone
- 11:46Speaker 3: who was like, I will show you. I will show you,
- 11:49Speaker 3: like I don't give a fuck what you think. I
- 11:51Speaker 3: will show you too. I have to get you to
- 11:54Speaker 3: like me. Yeah, I have to be fun, not just
- 11:56Speaker 3: funny with my friends, but I have to figure out
- 11:58Speaker 3: how to make these people my friends, where I was
- 12:00Speaker 3: always very stand offish with new people. It was a
- 12:02Speaker 3: weird thing to try to adjust a comedy well.
- 12:05Speaker 2: Also, if you can't make it work, you have to
- 12:07Speaker 2: stop at some point.
- 12:08Speaker 3: Oh you have to if you can't make it work yet.
- 12:10Speaker 3: But I didn't make it work sometimes I just had
- 12:13Speaker 3: to figure out what was consistent when I was making it.
- 12:17Speaker 3: That's a real Yeah.
- 12:19Speaker 2: I don't know how. I mean, so few people get
- 12:21Speaker 2: past at a club. I know it's hard because you
- 12:24Speaker 2: have to come back and do it a couple of
- 12:25Speaker 2: times if weeds to be But I see people have
- 12:27Speaker 2: a like a one off, great one and then you go, wait, did.
- 12:30Speaker 3: That go oh, dude. There's a girl that I saw
- 12:32Speaker 3: once in nineteen ninety No, nineteen ninety five or six,
- 12:39Speaker 3: that's what it was, nineteen ninety five or six. She
- 12:41Speaker 3: did a set in the belly Room and it was
- 12:45Speaker 3: one of the funniest sets I've ever seen in my life.
- 12:47Speaker 3: It was like I was watching a female Sam Kennison.
- 12:51Speaker 3: I was like, this girl is on fire, like this
- 12:54Speaker 3: is insane. And then never happened. I don't know what happened.
- 13:00Speaker 3: I don't know. People just never really get it together.
- 13:03Speaker 3: They whatever the fuck they pulled off that time, they
- 13:07Speaker 3: can't do again. Lightning in a bottle. But it was
- 13:10Speaker 3: in there, like it's in there. That comedy was in there.
- 13:13Speaker 3: It was like if this person with the right encouragement
- 13:15Speaker 3: could have been fucking huge. Man.
- 13:18Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember I saw my friend Amos on that day.
- 13:21Speaker 2: His girlfriend broke up with him and he went and
- 13:23Speaker 2: did he meant he was booked for ten and he
- 13:25Speaker 2: did like twenty five. Ah, and he was just heart broken.
- 13:28Speaker 2: He was just complaining about being devastated, and it was
- 13:30Speaker 2: all the things that were wrung with his comedy beforehand
- 13:32Speaker 2: were like gone. He was used to be like unpleasant
- 13:36Speaker 2: in people's face. And then he was like free and
- 13:39Speaker 2: likable and good. It's like, oh, you can't engineer to
- 13:41Speaker 2: be broken up with every show. You can't. You can't
- 13:45Speaker 2: engineer that, right, you shouldn't.
- 13:47Speaker 3: Well, that was Kennison in the early days, right, Curly
- 13:51Speaker 3: Kennison in the early days was all about like how
- 13:53Speaker 3: you know, like meeting the devil, and the Devil's like,
- 13:55Speaker 3: oh you've been married. Yeah, this is all fucking newdie
- 13:58Speaker 3: and you know it's all old hat to you were
- 14:00Speaker 3: torture the souls.
- 14:02Speaker 2: I never had it.
- 14:03Speaker 3: Oh you're married twice, like remember that bit.
- 14:05Speaker 2: I never Kennison. The first time I realized that he
- 14:08Speaker 2: was a big thing was when that poster went up
- 14:10Speaker 2: backstage at the Mothership. Oh really, yeah, we didn't we
- 14:13Speaker 2: didn't get him. Wow, we didn't get him. We didn't
- 14:15Speaker 2: get I mean maybe some people got them. We got
- 14:17Speaker 2: run White because he was on Comedy Central, so I
- 14:20Speaker 2: had seen his special like a bunch of times. That's
- 14:23Speaker 2: crazy in terms of American comics. I didn't get Kinnison.
- 14:25Speaker 2: I didn't get who. Well, we got Chappelle because we've
- 14:28Speaker 2: got Chappelle, Shaw, you must have got Hicks. People around
- 14:32Speaker 2: me had Hicks, but I was late the Hicks because
- 14:35Speaker 2: the men who loved Hicks were not right, do you
- 14:39Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like you go, there's something good here,
- 14:40Speaker 2: but it's gonna I'm gonna have to come back to
- 14:42Speaker 2: it with it.
- 14:42Speaker 3: Well, he was so good and so unique in the
- 14:47Speaker 3: kind of comedy that he did and so smart that
- 14:49Speaker 3: it made a bunch of guys try to be like him.
- 14:51Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, there's many such cases, guys who are great
- 14:55Speaker 2: but they destroy Dude, there's a lot of little Casey
- 14:58Speaker 2: rockets running around think they don't have to write anything, and.
- 15:01Speaker 3: That one of the all time great I mean, if
- 15:04Speaker 3: you one of the all time greats is Richard Jenny.
- 15:08Speaker 3: I mean, he's an all time great. And when I
- 15:11Speaker 3: saw him in like the nineteen eighties, he did a
- 15:15Speaker 3: club I guess I was probably ninety ninety one, maybe
- 15:19Speaker 3: east Side Comedy Club. He did four different hours, and
- 15:23Speaker 3: the MC wanted to quit comedy after a MCED Forum
- 15:25Speaker 3: of the Weekend. He said it did four different hours,
- 15:28Speaker 3: a different hour on Friday night, first show, different hour,
- 15:31Speaker 3: second show, different hour, first show, Saturday night, different hour.
- 15:35Speaker 3: All of them murdered and he said it was insane
- 15:38Speaker 3: and he goes I wanted to quit comedy. He saw
- 15:41Speaker 3: Hicks and he said to me, like we were hanging
- 15:44Speaker 3: out together. He's like, God, I got it. I wish
- 15:46Speaker 3: it makes me want to do more of that. You know,
- 15:48Speaker 3: I feel like sometimes I'm not doing enough of That's like, wow,
- 15:51Speaker 3: that's crazy.
- 15:52Speaker 2: You know Ken Dodd, you know that. He was a live,
- 15:56Speaker 2: a Puddlian comedian, I think. But he would come out
- 15:57Speaker 2: and he would do his new hour and people like
- 16:00Speaker 2: clap and say thank you, and then he would he
- 16:01Speaker 2: would say, right, I'm gonna do the hour I did
- 16:03Speaker 2: last time I was in town. You can leave if
- 16:05Speaker 2: you want, but I'll do the second hour is the
- 16:07Speaker 2: hour he did the year before, and then he'd do
- 16:09Speaker 2: the hour that he did the year before that. And
- 16:11Speaker 2: he'd just do hour after hour until the whole until
- 16:13Speaker 2: like if people had enough they could get up and
- 16:15Speaker 2: walk away. Wow, but he'd be there for like seven hours.
- 16:18Speaker 2: Jesus Christ, you stuff hated it.
- 16:20Speaker 3: Chappelle used to do that. He used to pull up
- 16:23Speaker 3: to the laugh Factory and do like a nine hour set.
- 16:25Speaker 2: Yeah, he's still doing it.
- 16:28Speaker 3: I think him and Dane Cook had like a battle
- 16:30Speaker 3: to see like who could do the longest set.
- 16:33Speaker 2: I mean, I saw I got to go to.
- 16:35Speaker 3: I don't think Dave was like trying to battle, but
- 16:37Speaker 3: I think Dad took the title.
- 16:39Speaker 2: Shane took me to his the y S Firehouse, the
- 16:41Speaker 2: club that Dave has set up in. Yeah, it was
- 16:45Speaker 2: on his birthday and he did three hours, and he
- 16:48Speaker 2: bombed at his own birthday. And he kept saying, I
- 16:51Speaker 2: can't believe I'm bombing at my own club on my birthday.
- 16:55Speaker 2: But then in the middle there was a guy with
- 16:56Speaker 2: a coat and he just did maybe forty five minutes
- 16:59Speaker 2: about this guy's cod of crab work on just that.
- 17:02Speaker 2: It was magical. The whole thing flew. He could release
- 17:05Speaker 2: an hour on this guy's coat. I think he's recording
- 17:07Speaker 2: everything that he's building a vault. I think I think
- 17:10Speaker 2: he's got a Prince vault, a Prince vault. Yeah, like
- 17:13Speaker 2: have Prince. I think Prince would just put it and
- 17:17Speaker 2: I think he's got he must have how is in
- 17:19Speaker 2: the vault.
- 17:20Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got a whole system for how he creates comedy.
- 17:23Speaker 3: It's very unique. He goes on stage and he has
- 17:26Speaker 3: some subjects and he just fucks around and he gets
- 17:28Speaker 3: a little drunk. Yeah, gets a little high, and he's
- 17:31Speaker 3: so funny that some of those things will wind up
- 17:35Speaker 3: being bits. Yes, and then he takes those bits and
- 17:37Speaker 3: then he like he has all of them recorded, So
- 17:40Speaker 3: it's just constantly stock and he goes on stage almost
- 17:43Speaker 3: every night.
- 17:44Speaker 2: I there's nothing in my vault. Everything I've gotten I got,
- 17:49Speaker 2: Like every time I go out there, I've gotten nothing.
- 17:51Speaker 3: Isn't that a great example? Like not everybody has the
- 17:54Speaker 3: option to just go on stage and rant for three hours. Yeah,
- 17:57Speaker 3: but isn't it educational to any young comics? It says? Okay,
- 18:01Speaker 3: who do people consider to be the greatest comic alive?
- 18:05Speaker 3: Most people would say Dave Chappelle. And Dave Chappelle is
- 18:08Speaker 3: working harder than anybody. Yes, it's not a coincidence. Like
- 18:11Speaker 3: he's effortlessly funny, yes for sure, brilliant, yes for sure,
- 18:15Speaker 3: but also works every night like there's something to that,
- 18:19Speaker 3: and works every night and does long sets like every night,
- 18:22Speaker 3: like he's always he's always, he's always getting better.
- 18:28Speaker 2: Before I came to America, I would do like I
- 18:31Speaker 2: would do it an hour a month and be very
- 18:33Speaker 2: happy with that. And this was enough to get me
- 18:35Speaker 2: right to go. H not going every night is it's
- 18:39Speaker 2: also hard to go every night like you do not
- 18:41Speaker 2: you have a good time once you're at then avoid
- 18:45Speaker 2: the comedy.
- 18:45Speaker 3: You gotta avoid that feeling, right, So it's a it's
- 18:49Speaker 3: a mental collapse. It's you know, familiarity breeds contempt. It's
- 18:54Speaker 3: not just in relationships, it's in anything you do. And
- 18:58Speaker 3: that's where you have to reset your mind. Right. So,
- 19:02Speaker 3: like when you start to feel that coming on, like
- 19:03Speaker 3: I can't believe you have to do another set. Fuck,
- 19:05Speaker 3: I don't want to do a second show. You have
- 19:08Speaker 3: to remember what it was like when you had nothing,
- 19:11Speaker 3: and you have to remember what it was like when
- 19:13Speaker 3: you would go to open mic night and just you
- 19:15Speaker 3: wouldn't the weren't on the list, you didn't make the list,
- 19:18Speaker 3: but you just wanted to go on stage so bad.
- 19:20Speaker 3: You wanted to go on stage so bad, and you
- 19:22Speaker 3: wanted to like, I gotta figure this thing out.
- 19:25Speaker 2: You gotta have you Johnny Cash moment sitting backstage at
- 19:27Speaker 2: the falalsehom Prison.
- 19:28Speaker 3: Yeah, are about to go do a second sold out show.
- 19:33Speaker 3: It's silly, you should be so pumped. It's just a
- 19:36Speaker 3: familiarity thing. It's just a mind fuck. But you can
- 19:39Speaker 3: get over mind fucks man. You can get over them
- 19:42Speaker 3: if you understand what they are and just recalibrate the
- 19:45Speaker 3: way you engage with it.
- 19:47Speaker 2: I'm figuring out a way to recalibrate that doesn't kill
- 19:49Speaker 2: you in the long run.
- 19:50Speaker 3: Is it good?
- 19:51Speaker 2: Like I know some people, you mean, cocaine, people get
- 19:55Speaker 2: like fucked up or just play a video game all
- 19:57Speaker 2: week and then they can get back and do it.
- 19:59Speaker 3: You don't have to. Oh, you don't have to do
- 20:01Speaker 3: those things.
- 20:01Speaker 2: I think you've got to do something. You've got to
- 20:03Speaker 2: go for a nice walk. Yeah, I started swimming.
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- 21:19Speaker 2: That's my love right to swim?
- 21:20Speaker 3: Oh you were telling me that.
- 21:21Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm all about I've got nothing and I
- 21:23Speaker 2: go on stage. I try and talk about how much
- 21:24Speaker 2: I love the pool. I got nothing. Three where I
- 21:27Speaker 2: stand there and go is it swimming beautiful? You'll Then
- 21:30Speaker 2: I say nothing, and I white does happened? After that?
- 21:33Speaker 2: I go and talk about the next thing.
- 21:36Speaker 3: Well, it's you know, one of those exercises that because
- 21:39Speaker 3: you're moving against the resistance of the water, it doesn't
- 21:42Speaker 3: damage your joints.
- 21:43Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's like.
- 21:45Speaker 3: It feels like therapeutic even though it feels like exercise.
- 21:49Speaker 2: You can get yourself tied if you want. You can
- 21:51Speaker 2: slow it down. Oh yeah you can.
- 21:52Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's fun. I swim up my dog and
- 21:56Speaker 3: I like in a pool. Me and the dog swim
- 21:59Speaker 3: in the pool. He's the he's the funniest. He's such
- 22:03Speaker 3: a great dog.
- 22:03Speaker 2: I did find your dog Instagram account? Are you running
- 22:06Speaker 2: the dog Instagram account?
- 22:07Speaker 3: My wife friends? Okay, but he's he's so great that
- 22:10Speaker 3: like he won't swim unless you're swimming, like he knows
- 22:14Speaker 3: he's not supposed to just randomly jump in the pool
- 22:16Speaker 3: because then he comes in the house fucks everything up.
- 22:19Speaker 3: So he only is allowed to swim when we tell
- 22:21Speaker 3: him swim, And so he sits there like are we
- 22:23Speaker 3: fucking swimming tonight? Yeah, And then we finds out we're swimming,
- 22:26Speaker 3: like oh ship with swimming, and he just jumps off
- 22:30Speaker 3: the side of the pool. Salt pool, saltpool, Yeah, I
- 22:33Speaker 3: think it's saltpool. If it's not supposed to.
- 22:36Speaker 2: Be, it's not. I can float in that. I cannot
- 22:38Speaker 2: float in the chlorine pool. And that brings me great?
- 22:40Speaker 2: Why not my legs sink down? Oh, I have no bomb.
- 22:44Speaker 3: Have you ever done a float tank?
- 22:46Speaker 2: Never? Oh my god, I'm afraid of what would be
- 22:48Speaker 2: in my Brian.
- 22:49Speaker 3: You need to find out. No dig around, so beautiful,
- 22:55Speaker 3: dig around dog, I mean for five minutes. Just push
- 23:02Speaker 3: it down and get back to work at the factory.
- 23:05Speaker 3: It really does.
- 23:05Speaker 2: I'm a big believer. And push it down and keep moving.
- 23:08Speaker 3: Hey, there's something to be said.
- 23:09Speaker 2: I mean you explode at some point.
- 23:10Speaker 3: Well, the opposite is not good, right, if you're constantly
- 23:14Speaker 3: dwelling on your problems all the time, that's that's worse.
- 23:17Speaker 2: I was someone was I got. I got circumcised at
- 23:21Speaker 2: like thirty two because that is christ well it's name.
- 23:24Speaker 2: But it was a beautiful experience. I enjoyed it. I
- 23:26Speaker 2: had a nice time.
- 23:27Speaker 3: Did you get a rabbit of sucker deck?
- 23:29Speaker 2: I thought about it. I thought I could leave that
- 23:31Speaker 2: in as an option. But also it's fine, by the way.
- 23:34Speaker 3: From different, I'm not making a joke.
- 23:36Speaker 2: They do suck that. Sometimes they have a tube. Sometimes
- 23:39Speaker 2: they have a special tube.
- 23:40Speaker 3: Yeah, and sometimes they don't know something. Given kids herpies and.
- 23:44Speaker 2: Being children do die yeah from it? Yeah, it's grim,
- 23:48Speaker 2: but circumcision in general, I'm in favor. Why because I
- 23:51Speaker 2: had I know, it was like before and I was like, after,
- 23:53Speaker 2: it's not a big deal. This is there are people
- 23:55Speaker 2: When I'm saying, people make it the whole.
- 23:56Speaker 3: Line of one.
- 23:58Speaker 2: Yeah, I've experienced both as an adult people.
- 24:00Speaker 3: I think most people would not want their dick to
- 24:01Speaker 3: be cut for no real reason other than aesthetics. And
- 24:05Speaker 3: people are like, oh, profents AIDS, shut the fuck up.
- 24:09Speaker 2: I got to go to the AIDS Memorial Garden in
- 24:11Speaker 2: San Francisco.
- 24:12Speaker 3: Yeah, did you show them you a new dick?
- 24:14Speaker 2: Well, people definitely would. It's a lot of nooks and
- 24:16Speaker 2: crannies in the age. More like they've built the perfect
- 24:18Speaker 2: place to have six with a man in the age.
- 24:21Speaker 3: It's perfect.
- 24:22Speaker 2: Someone's definitely gotten AIDS at the AIDS Memorial. Guy, do
- 24:24Speaker 2: you think so I'm fucking away and they're gone. I
- 24:26Speaker 2: knew there was something I was supposed to remember now
- 24:29Speaker 2: I have AIDS. It was very good. It's a beautiful park.
- 24:31Speaker 2: San Francisco is lovely.
- 24:34Speaker 3: Have you ever listened to people like what is that
- 24:39Speaker 3: guy's name? The guy that we had on the podcast
- 24:41Speaker 3: a long time ago, Peter Dusburg. No, she want to
- 24:44Speaker 3: go on the ultimate rabbit hole.
- 24:46Speaker 2: What was he doing? Is he in a park?
- 24:48Speaker 3: No, Peter Dusburg doesn't believe that HIV causes AIDS.
- 24:52Speaker 2: I've heard about this, it's the treatment.
- 24:54Speaker 3: Peter Dusburg is uh. He's a professor of professor biology,
- 24:59Speaker 3: University cal When you're Berkeley tenured, and he's done like
- 25:05Speaker 3: groundbreaking work on cancer. It's like considered to be a
- 25:08Speaker 3: brilliant guy. Consider to be a brilliant guy. So in
- 25:11Speaker 3: the eighties, when all this was going on with AIDS,
- 25:13Speaker 3: his assertion was that there was a thing that people
- 25:16Speaker 3: were not factoring in is that almost all all of
- 25:20Speaker 3: the people who developed AIDS were hardcore partiers, hardcore drug
- 25:25Speaker 3: users in the gay community, and no one wanted to
- 25:29Speaker 3: address that. And he was saying, no, this is destroying
- 25:32Speaker 3: their immune system. And then HIV shows up. He goes
- 25:35Speaker 3: HIV is a weak virus. He goes in most people.
- 25:39Speaker 3: And when I had read what he said, and I
- 25:41Speaker 3: don't know if this is true. Maybe we could find
- 25:43Speaker 3: out that babies, if they're born they test positive for
- 25:46Speaker 3: HIV without any treatment at all, are HIV negative within
- 25:50Speaker 3: a certain amount of time and so it all sounds nuts,
- 25:54Speaker 3: right because you don't.
- 25:56Speaker 2: Just know why mortal evidence for that, because like African countries,
- 25:58Speaker 2: you would go healthcare would be bad, malnutrition would be.
- 26:01Speaker 3: Well, this is the thing. Are they really testing for
- 26:03Speaker 3: HIV when they say these people have AIDS? And is
- 26:06Speaker 3: there other possible factors that could cause this immune thing?
- 26:10Speaker 3: And if you're dealing with like it's all coming out
- 26:12Speaker 3: of this gay community where there are a lot of partying,
- 26:14Speaker 3: there's a lot of drug using, a lot of wild
- 26:16Speaker 3: fucking and these guys are burning it at pearl fins
- 26:20Speaker 3: and when you do that, sometimes you fucking die. Sometimes
- 26:23Speaker 3: your immune system gets crashed. Now, clearly I'm not fucking
- 26:27Speaker 3: smart enough to know if he's right or if everyone
- 26:30Speaker 3: else in the world is right. Yeah, because it's literally
- 26:33Speaker 3: that right. It's like, well, there's a bunch of people
- 26:37Speaker 3: that agree with them and silently agree with him. There's
- 26:40Speaker 3: a bunch of people. It's actually covered in RFK. Junior's
- 26:44Speaker 3: book on Fauci because it has to do with Fauci.
- 26:47Speaker 2: Faci was in charge then, yes.
- 26:49Speaker 3: Like he was, Yes, he was the one that was
- 26:51Speaker 3: giving people AZT right, So AZT was a cancer medication
- 26:55Speaker 3: that was killing people quicker than cancer was. It was
- 26:57Speaker 3: a chemotherapy. And not only is it chemotherapy, this is
- 27:01Speaker 3: the only time during the AIDS crisis where a chemo
- 27:03Speaker 3: therapy was prescribed permanently because chemotherapy. The the agreement is like,
- 27:11Speaker 3: I'm gonna take this poison that's going to destroy my body,
- 27:15Speaker 3: but it's gonna kill the cancer. Yeah, and then when
- 27:17Speaker 3: the cancer is dead, I'm gonna get healthy again. Right,
- 27:19Speaker 3: you don't hook on grapy, you don't stay on.
- 27:22Speaker 2: No one's getting an extra and it's a super strong one.
- 27:25Speaker 3: And you know, there was a lot of people that
- 27:27Speaker 3: took AZT when they were asymptomatic, like they didn't even
- 27:31Speaker 3: have any of the symptoms, they just tested positive for HIV.
- 27:34Speaker 3: And this is back when Kerrie Mullis, the guy who
- 27:36Speaker 3: invented the PCR test. He's like famously on record saying
- 27:41Speaker 3: like this is no way to test for diseases and
- 27:43Speaker 3: Fouchi doesn't know what the fuck he's doing. And it's
- 27:47Speaker 3: the same guy that was in charge during the whole
- 27:49Speaker 3: COVID thing, and you like that is the craziest conspiracy
- 27:52Speaker 3: that HIV doesn't cause AIDS. But what he's saying is
- 27:56Speaker 3: HIV as president is present and people with already compromised immunesystems,
- 28:00Speaker 3: and that this unique factor that they're all hardcore drug
- 28:05Speaker 3: users was never taken into consideration.
- 28:08Speaker 2: Well they, I mean certainly with COVID they didn't take
- 28:10Speaker 2: it into accountable. Well, they've fat people and weak people.
- 28:12Speaker 3: The thing is, you got to look at it from
- 28:14Speaker 3: a profitability standpoint. And I know this is super cynical
- 28:17Speaker 3: and sounds disgusting, but if you have a actual disease
- 28:21Speaker 3: that you can prescribe medication for, that's valuable. If you
- 28:26Speaker 3: have a bunch of people that are doing something that's
- 28:29Speaker 3: super healthy that's killing them and you don't have a solution,
- 28:32Speaker 3: that's not valuable.
- 28:33Speaker 2: Well they figured it out with fat people. They've got the
- 28:35Speaker 2: Ozmpic and people are just on the Ozmpic forever.
- 28:38Speaker 3: But do you know zempic is like the number one
- 28:40Speaker 3: most profitable medication in the country.
- 28:42Speaker 2: I believe it.
- 28:43Speaker 3: But what is that true that I make that up?
- 28:45Speaker 3: I think that's true if they're all doing Sometimes I
- 28:47Speaker 3: see things on TikTok and I was like, this is
- 28:48Speaker 3: China for.
- 28:49Speaker 2: So some of them look great? Oh yeah, I mean
- 28:51Speaker 2: I know people in Ozympic who are.
- 28:54Speaker 3: Doing it not thinking about it. Never, no, not, no way.
- 28:58Speaker 2: I'm a comfortable level of fat and America. No one
- 29:02Speaker 2: has ever called me fat in Australia at this body
- 29:05Speaker 2: all the time.
- 29:06Speaker 3: Really, yeah, they're all fucking healthy over there. You guys
- 29:08Speaker 3: got a hike everywhere.
- 29:09Speaker 2: I think the food is better the food. I think
- 29:12Speaker 2: I've for sure. I became lactose intolerant when I came
- 29:14Speaker 2: to America because I had raw milk and then I
- 29:19Speaker 2: vomited green bile for a couple of days.
- 29:21Speaker 3: You raw milk here.
- 29:22Speaker 2: I had like a gallon of raw milk in.
- 29:24Speaker 3: A day, so raw milk, not pasteurized not.
- 29:28Speaker 2: I got it from the farmer's market. The guy looked
- 29:30Speaker 2: really strong and healthy. I want that cool.
- 29:34Speaker 3: Intolerant, and I like the.
- 29:35Speaker 2: Milk so much. I like to believe it wasn't that,
- 29:37Speaker 2: but it was.
- 29:37Speaker 3: Maybe it was too much of it.
- 29:40Speaker 2: I think I got some sort of weird bacteria, but
- 29:41Speaker 2: I was yeah, green bile both ends.
- 29:45Speaker 3: Really yes, right now, you're destroying the raw milk industry.
- 29:49Speaker 3: I'm still handed. I would like it.
- 29:51Speaker 2: Also, it was the most beautiful milk I've ever had.
- 29:54Speaker 2: I don't want to be negative about rural milk. If
- 29:56Speaker 2: you can have it and it doesn't do that to.
- 29:57Speaker 3: You, I think you hit the raw milk I have.
- 30:00Speaker 2: It's like drinking a secret.
- 30:01Speaker 3: I think raw milk should be like raw meat. Leave
- 30:04Speaker 3: me alone, Leave me alone. I know how to cook
- 30:06Speaker 3: a steak, right, you don't. You don't tell me how
- 30:08Speaker 3: to cook a steak. You let me buy raw milk.
- 30:10Speaker 3: Let me buy it. Yeah, if you let me buy
- 30:13Speaker 3: raw meat, let me buy raw milk. Shut the fuck up.
- 30:15Speaker 3: Now are you saying that it's killing people? Okay, where's
- 30:18Speaker 3: your evidence? And is pasteurization and homogenization, which does make
- 30:23Speaker 3: it more shelf stable and make it so that you
- 30:27Speaker 3: could you know, you can keep it in the refrigerator
- 30:28Speaker 3: for a long time and it's still fine. You know
- 30:30Speaker 3: it has an expired by date. Yes, raw milk goes
- 30:34Speaker 3: bad quick. So should you drink the bad raw milk? No?
- 30:36Speaker 3: Definitely not. But is there anything This.
- 30:38Speaker 2: Is probably on how much you should.
- 30:40Speaker 3: Have super beneficial about drinking the raw milk. Well, there
- 30:43Speaker 3: seems to be a lot of evidence as long as
- 30:45Speaker 3: it doesn't have bacteria in it. Okay, Well, how do
- 30:48Speaker 3: you prevent that? Well? I feel like we can do that.
- 30:51Speaker 2: See this, I don't think this especially, that's the problem.
- 30:54Speaker 2: Vute it from a guy's muddy van.
- 30:56Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
- 30:56Speaker 2: And then as I was vomiting and shitting, I was like,
- 30:58Speaker 2: this doesn't feel natural.
- 30:59Speaker 3: You got to get it from a reputable farmer. But
- 31:02Speaker 3: from a reputable farm they exist. There's like a whole
- 31:05Speaker 3: website where you can find raw milk because people are
- 31:08Speaker 3: raw milk nuts, which is also what turns me off
- 31:11Speaker 3: to raw milk.
- 31:13Speaker 2: I with for about six hours, I thought I had
- 31:16Speaker 2: the greatest inside anybody had ever had. This is the
- 31:18Speaker 2: special milk. We should all be having.
- 31:20Speaker 3: It until it could start blowing out your body. Maybe
- 31:22Speaker 3: you just drank too much.
- 31:23Speaker 2: I did. Everyone else in the family was fine. My wife,
- 31:26Speaker 2: my kids said a little had a little bit.
- 31:28Speaker 3: Yeah, drink too much. I mean, if you drink too
- 31:30Speaker 3: much of anything, you'll get diarrhea. And think about like
- 31:32Speaker 3: how much you're dealing with, how much like milk, fat
- 31:36Speaker 3: and how much liquid you can get diarrhea.
- 31:40Speaker 2: Just from that of adust on the milk.
- 31:42Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I wouldn't have a.
- 31:43Speaker 2: Milk problem before then on the pasturaised milk.
- 31:45Speaker 3: So now you have a milk problem. Everything.
- 31:49Speaker 2: Oh a big, heavy, weird.
- 31:51Speaker 3: So it gave you lactose and tolerance.
- 31:53Speaker 2: It happened. I like the milk so much. I don't
- 31:55Speaker 2: want to blame the milk, but I will say it
- 31:57Speaker 2: happened at the same time.
- 31:58Speaker 3: Okay, so is it's But from then on, are you
- 32:03Speaker 3: getting lactose and tolerant every time you drink raw milk
- 32:06Speaker 3: or regular.
- 32:06Speaker 2: Milk regular milk? Maybe maybe my body got used to
- 32:09Speaker 2: the beautiful raw milk. Would have a hard time selling
- 32:12Speaker 2: that to the wife. We're getting the raw milk back
- 32:14Speaker 2: in the house.
- 32:15Speaker 3: Yeah, that might be it, dude, I know that sounds crazy,
- 32:17Speaker 3: but that might be it. Like your body might prefer
- 32:21Speaker 3: real milk and now that it's real milks. Yeah, it's
- 32:25Speaker 3: like fuck you with this boiler with bread.
- 32:28Speaker 2: But I think this happened. I mean something, something's happening
- 32:31Speaker 2: with the bread in America. It's like like Hans Felwall.
- 32:34Speaker 3: I don't personally have any problem with homogenized and pasteurized milk.
- 32:37Speaker 3: Like when I drink it doesn't make me feel bad.
- 32:39Speaker 3: I don't feel great, but I will do it if
- 32:42Speaker 3: I like cookies and milk. But cookies and milk, yeah,
- 32:45Speaker 3: but I don't think that you should be able to
- 32:48Speaker 3: tell people that they can't sell raw milk. I think
- 32:50Speaker 3: you should tell people if you're gonna sell raw milk,
- 32:53Speaker 3: it has to meet some certain standards. Sure, you have
- 32:56Speaker 3: to have certain standards of how you cool it, what
- 32:58Speaker 3: you're doing, making sure everything's clean, everything has to be inspected.
- 33:02Speaker 3: But they do that with other stuff. That's what's USD.
- 33:05Speaker 2: Definitely put together by big business to crush small people.
- 33:08Speaker 3: But they do it that way anyway. With meat, This
- 33:11Speaker 3: is my point. Yeah, there's USDA inspections. So you have
- 33:14Speaker 3: to make sure that the processing place is clean, everything's
- 33:16Speaker 3: supposed to be.
- 33:18Speaker 2: And then even then they still do they're like you know,
- 33:20Speaker 2: for like a burger used to be one cow and
- 33:22Speaker 2: they grind that bit up and that's like a thousand
- 33:24Speaker 2: cows coming together.
- 33:25Speaker 3: Right. I don't think there's laws against that, right, I
- 33:27Speaker 3: think I don't. I think that if you the cow
- 33:31Speaker 3: thing is a weird thing, like when you're getting burgers
- 33:33Speaker 3: that have like a thousand cows, and it is a
- 33:36Speaker 3: weird thing. But I mean it is just meeked, right, It's.
- 33:40Speaker 2: I think those standards are put there by the big corporated.
- 33:42Speaker 2: Like I was thinking about like housing zones and districting,
- 33:46Speaker 2: Like in Australia, the median house prices a million dollars.
- 33:49Speaker 2: It's you just you can't buy now. One in my
- 33:52Speaker 2: generation is buying a hum. It's a week. There's so
- 33:55Speaker 2: much land. There's a lot of stuff. You should just
- 33:57Speaker 2: be able to like whip up is slim with the
- 34:00Speaker 2: with your bros. You go to a valley where no
- 34:02Speaker 2: one is, you're living a that would be better to
- 34:04Speaker 2: some extent, rather than like renting in a horrible thing
- 34:08Speaker 2: forever you go. Used to be able to just like
- 34:09Speaker 2: build a horrible thing. You know, there was no building regulations.
- 34:14Speaker 2: Sometimes a ceiling would collapse and people would die.
- 34:16Speaker 3: But do you think that's better to have no regulations?
- 34:19Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 34:20Speaker 3: Really yes, But that's how like stadiums collapse on people
- 34:24Speaker 3: in third world.
- 34:25Speaker 2: Country, No doubt bad things will also happen.
- 34:27Speaker 3: No, that's a dumb idea.
- 34:28Speaker 2: I'm not saying no regulation, all right, I'm going to
- 34:30Speaker 2: walk back no regulations, okay, but it would be nice
- 34:32Speaker 2: if the regulation was somehow written just with the safety
- 34:36Speaker 2: in mind and not so that I mean they are insane,
- 34:38Speaker 2: Like there are buildings up now that are perfectly safe
- 34:41Speaker 2: that wouldn't pass code. If they were built today, you
- 34:42Speaker 2: couldn't build them again.
- 34:43Speaker 3: Now, why wouldn't they pass code?
- 34:45Speaker 2: Because they do things like, you know, the door has
- 34:47Speaker 2: to be this far away from the stairs, the ceiling
- 34:50Speaker 2: has to be this height, and he's eight fire beeping detectors. Yeah,
- 34:56Speaker 2: and the same way that you know, like you can't
- 34:58Speaker 2: cut hair without getting a degree. You need like a
- 35:01Speaker 2: certificate to be a hairdresser. And they go, this is
- 35:03Speaker 2: to make hair cutting safer, but like people were cutting
- 35:07Speaker 2: hair without.
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- 36:40Speaker 3: Okay, cutting hair is not is big an issue. I
- 36:42Speaker 3: think we should go back to the houses, right, go ahead, Like,
- 36:45Speaker 3: if you want to save lives, you you want houses
- 36:50Speaker 3: that you can escape in the case of a fire.
- 36:52Speaker 3: And if you don't hoolutely, if you don't hold the
- 36:54Speaker 3: builder accountable, the person who's making that house, even if
- 36:58Speaker 3: they're making it for themselves, then sell that house to
- 37:01Speaker 3: someone else most likely, and that person will not be
- 37:05Speaker 3: in a house that's necessarily the safest it could be.
- 37:09Speaker 3: It just makes sense.
- 37:09Speaker 2: It would result in big problems.
- 37:11Speaker 3: It makes sense. But it makes sense. No, no, no,
- 37:14Speaker 3: no no, it makes you You have to listen. When
- 37:17Speaker 3: I was a kid, I grew up in construction sites.
- 37:18Speaker 3: My father was an architect, my stepdad was an architect. Yeah,
- 37:21Speaker 3: when I was really young, I got to see like
- 37:25Speaker 3: real shitty construction. How dangerous it is when people like
- 37:29Speaker 3: fuck around don't follow code. How many like shady guys
- 37:33Speaker 3: do a bad job, how many people try to like
- 37:35Speaker 3: use lesser materials than they're supposed to be used. It's constant.
- 37:39Speaker 3: And if you don't have regulation, you people, you put
- 37:42Speaker 3: people's lives at stake.
- 37:44Speaker 2: I didn't think it has the same problem with regulation
- 37:46Speaker 2: here because you guys seem to be able to build
- 37:48Speaker 2: houses like houses.
- 37:50Speaker 3: Well, we have a lot of regulations though, like.
- 37:55Speaker 2: With people, there's a way to do it in a
- 37:57Speaker 2: way that is just the help industry make house prices high.
- 38:00Speaker 3: Well, that's true too. Both things can be true. I
- 38:04Speaker 3: think there there's definitely people that take advantage of regulation,
- 38:08Speaker 3: and there's definitely people that most likely stifle other business's
- 38:12Speaker 3: growth through promotion of regulation. That's probably true too. But
- 38:17Speaker 3: also like for some stuff, like for safety stuff and homes,
- 38:20Speaker 3: you fucking need regulation because if you sell it to
- 38:23Speaker 3: my mom and she doesn't know how anything works and
- 38:25Speaker 3: then the house catches on fire, because yeah, it's just
- 38:29Speaker 3: do it the right way. They know how to do
- 38:31Speaker 3: it the right way. People have established a system. Now
- 38:33Speaker 3: there's a bunch of shit that's arbitrary that gets aesthetic
- 38:36Speaker 3: and I'm not in favor of that. Yeah, when people
- 38:38Speaker 3: get to decide what, you know, the front of your
- 38:41Speaker 3: house should look like or what color you painted.
- 38:44Speaker 2: I mean, you can make something safer forever though, and
- 38:46Speaker 2: there's no limit, there's no like, there's no zero that
- 38:49Speaker 2: you can reach of safety. Yeah, but it comes with
- 38:52Speaker 2: the effort, goes up to the extent where it's not.
- 38:54Speaker 3: But you hit a reasonable level and then you stop.
- 38:56Speaker 3: And that's what the regulations need.
- 38:58Speaker 2: I mean, I think with driver's licenses, you should have
- 39:00Speaker 2: some test for competency to drive a car. It should
- 39:05Speaker 2: be something yea when I mean when in Australia, when
- 39:07Speaker 2: I was trying to I didn't get my license. I
- 39:08Speaker 2: was like twenty seven because it took for it, like
- 39:10Speaker 2: you've got to get one hundred hours registered, you got
- 39:13Speaker 2: to do a weird test. I got a driver's license
- 39:14Speaker 2: in Ohio, where I don't think road fatalities are that
- 39:18Speaker 2: much higher than the rest of the well. And you know,
- 39:20Speaker 2: you're get in the car, you drive around the block,
- 39:21Speaker 2: the guy goes, you know how to operate this vehicle?
- 39:24Speaker 2: We're going to say, it's not going to cost you know,
- 39:26Speaker 2: a thousand dollars, and it's more straightforward. There's like there's
- 39:30Speaker 2: a balance to be gotten to be gotten ryot And.
- 39:34Speaker 3: I think you're a hundred percent right.
- 39:35Speaker 2: I relish in America that you're closer to the freedom
- 39:38Speaker 2: side of things, definitely much more than Australia's.
- 39:42Speaker 3: And you got to see that during the pandemic too.
- 39:44Speaker 3: But the the thing is like there's a difference between
- 39:48Speaker 3: overregulation and wild west right, there's like a fine yeah line,
- 39:53Speaker 3: there's like a there's a comfortable middle, and I think
- 39:56Speaker 3: that middle has to be fought for because I think
- 39:59Speaker 3: it really is important and to have people that are
- 40:01Speaker 3: actually experts at their jobs to make sure that someone
- 40:04Speaker 3: builds a house correctly, go and look and make sure
- 40:07Speaker 3: you do. But then again, you open the door the
- 40:10Speaker 3: possibility that inspect your guy's a douchebag, and then he's
- 40:13Speaker 3: got a chip on his shoulder and he's got a
- 40:14Speaker 3: big fucking ego and people bribe him, and you know,
- 40:17Speaker 3: there's there's always a possibility of that kind of stuff
- 40:20Speaker 3: happening too. Where people love to have control over people.
- 40:23Speaker 3: They love to tell you can't build. They love to
- 40:26Speaker 3: tell you you got to repaint your house because it's
- 40:28Speaker 3: the color doesn't match our community.
- 40:31Speaker 2: How do you check that? How do you like? What
- 40:33Speaker 2: is the other than like everyone having a gun and
- 40:34Speaker 2: getting ready to a shimmering level of violence and.
- 40:38Speaker 3: You got to fight back before they ever get to
- 40:40Speaker 3: that point. It's real hard to regain ground once someone
- 40:43Speaker 3: takes ground with like ridiculous legislation, like look, they've been
- 40:47Speaker 3: trying to legalize weed in this country for fucking fifty
- 40:49Speaker 3: years and it's they barely put a dent in it level.
- 40:54Speaker 3: They've only done it on a state level. But the
- 40:55Speaker 3: point is, it's like, once you lose rights, Like if
- 41:00Speaker 3: they tried to if marijuana was illegal just like alcohol,
- 41:02Speaker 3: and all of a sudden they tried to make it illegal,
- 41:05Speaker 3: people would ride in the streets like what are you doing.
- 41:08Speaker 3: You can't do that because it wouldn't make sense. People
- 41:11Speaker 3: be furious. But once it's done, even if it's the
- 41:14Speaker 3: same exact situation, the same exact data, the same exact
- 41:18Speaker 3: safety profile, the same exact number of people using it
- 41:21Speaker 3: in the country, Yeah, it's just it's been it's been
- 41:25Speaker 3: fucked because it got put into this weird position.
- 41:27Speaker 2: But you guys, you got prohibition somehow, you got alcohol
- 41:32Speaker 2: taken off the streets for.
- 41:33Speaker 3: Yeah, but it was it was bad, bad and it
- 41:36Speaker 3: lasted a long time, and it led directly into marijuana prohibition. Yeah,
- 41:40Speaker 3: same exact people.
- 41:41Speaker 2: You just need to find something to have prohibition against it.
- 41:43Speaker 3: How about cortel prohibition? How about that? You know, how
- 41:46Speaker 3: about ventanyl? Don't stop thinking about things. But then you
- 41:50Speaker 3: find out like oh wait a minute, wait a minute, minute,
- 41:52Speaker 3: there's a lot tied to this. It's like the alcohol
- 41:54Speaker 3: lobby doesn't want marijuana to be legalized, so they fight
- 41:57Speaker 3: against it and they get politicians that are on their side. Hey, Ralph,
- 42:00Speaker 3: you're going to vote for this issue on our side
- 42:03Speaker 3: right away?
- 42:04Speaker 2: Ralph came over, Ralph, Ralph Nader.
- 42:06Speaker 3: No, no, no, not that guy. He doesn't do that.
- 42:09Speaker 3: But you know that's that's part of the problem too. Man.
- 42:11Speaker 3: It's like there's a lot of money involved in keeping
- 42:13Speaker 3: it illegal and she's like Jesus Christ.
- 42:16Speaker 2: But at least you can have I think America is
- 42:18Speaker 2: one of the only countries that primaries. You can actually
- 42:20Speaker 2: like get into a political party and if there's enough
- 42:23Speaker 2: will you can do something.
- 42:25Speaker 3: Wouldn't even allow it for the Democrats to primary for
- 42:29Speaker 3: the last election.
- 42:30Speaker 2: There was not even residential level. They're more uptight, but
- 42:32Speaker 2: on like they got the super delegates and they got
- 42:36Speaker 2: secret emails and it's not good. But the fact that
- 42:38Speaker 2: you could even have a system to fuck up is
- 42:42Speaker 2: I think unique to him. Like in Britain, Stick with Us,
- 42:45Speaker 2: the party picks who the person is and if you're
- 42:48Speaker 2: in the party you get a huge benefit. You can't
- 42:50Speaker 2: have like a grassroots you can't have like the branch
- 42:53Speaker 2: of the party going, we're putting forward a guy who's
- 42:55Speaker 2: we're going to primary somebody. You really can primary people
- 42:57Speaker 2: in America.
- 42:58Speaker 3: Yes, you can't, sort a not for president, not last time.
- 43:03Speaker 3: And they don't let certain people in the primaries, like
- 43:05Speaker 3: they're keeping RFK Junior out of the primaries.
- 43:08Speaker 2: Yes, and then running as an independent is that's not
- 43:11Speaker 2: very bad, but that's not good to it. I'm not
- 43:13Speaker 2: saying you're living up to the standard he set, but
- 43:15Speaker 2: you're also the only ones who there's even like people go,
- 43:18Speaker 2: we should be able to do it.
- 43:19Speaker 3: People wanted Trump to lose so badly they were willing
- 43:22Speaker 3: to throw democracy out the window. That's kind of what
- 43:26Speaker 3: it is, I mean kind of what it is. If
- 43:29Speaker 3: that was coming from the Republican side, people would have
- 43:31Speaker 3: been outraged.
- 43:32Speaker 2: To do it in the name of democracy was very
- 43:35Speaker 2: weird wild. And then also I remember one of the
- 43:37Speaker 2: so orwelling it. So my first week here, there was
- 43:39Speaker 2: a Biden speech where he was talking about it how
- 43:41Speaker 2: like violence has no He's like hopping on about January
- 43:43Speaker 2: sixth and stuff, and he was saying violence has no
- 43:46Speaker 2: place in the American system. But then the example he
- 43:48Speaker 2: gave was the American Revolution, Like I think that gets
- 43:52Speaker 2: you're meant to have. I think Benjamin Franklin wanted everyone
- 43:54Speaker 2: having an armed uprising every like twelve years or something
- 43:58Speaker 2: to wipe the slate clean. You're meant to that's part
- 44:01Speaker 2: of democracy. Ah, do you know about Castra?
- 44:04Speaker 3: What about him?
- 44:05Speaker 2: I've just I'm in a big Wikipedia wormhole about Castro.
- 44:08Speaker 2: I didn't know that he hit that he was a
- 44:10Speaker 2: communist until he wasn't a communist or he kept that quiet.
- 44:14Speaker 2: He was like a middle class revolutionary and then his
- 44:17Speaker 2: brother was a comedy, but he was like he didn't
- 44:20Speaker 2: come out and say he was a communist until later,
- 44:22Speaker 2: and the CIA helped him. I've been riding Castros helped him.
- 44:25Speaker 2: It looks like the CIA might have been. And then
- 44:27Speaker 2: towards the end they said, we got to get out
- 44:29Speaker 2: of this. This is not good. They really they changed horses.
- 44:33Speaker 3: Jesus.
- 44:34Speaker 2: They were really involved on both sides, but they were
- 44:36Speaker 2: do we do that everywhere? There's one there's one I
- 44:41Speaker 2: that you might have done. Gough Whitlam might have been
- 44:44Speaker 2: taken out by the CIA.
- 44:45Speaker 3: Gee.
- 44:46Speaker 2: No, he was. He was also a problem and people
- 44:49Speaker 2: were quite happy to have him go. But the governor
- 44:50Speaker 2: General man bro I don't have to go into too
- 44:54Speaker 2: much detail. Is look at Pine Gap. You have a
- 44:56Speaker 2: military base in Australia, and he wanted to like get
- 44:59Speaker 2: rid of of it or get off American energy subsidies
- 45:02Speaker 2: or something, and all of a sudden he was removed.
- 45:05Speaker 2: Oh boy, and we haven't rocked that boat again.
- 45:08Speaker 3: We are so good at that.
- 45:10Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 45:10Speaker 3: Between us and the Israelis, the Israelis do the wildest assassinations,
- 45:15Speaker 3: like did you see the one of them that they
- 45:16Speaker 3: did with the Iranian generals. Let's see to make sure
- 45:18Speaker 3: that this is true, Jamis, I.
- 45:20Speaker 2: Can get my visa re moved for criticizing his realm.
- 45:22Speaker 3: No, no, no, it's this.
- 45:24Speaker 2: I'm impressed by their beautiful assassination.
- 45:26Speaker 3: This is not this is not criticism. This is saying like,
- 45:29Speaker 3: this is one of the most gangster things I've ever
- 45:30Speaker 3: seen in my life. They made a fake phone call
- 45:33Speaker 3: to all these military leaders and said everybody's got to
- 45:36Speaker 3: meet at the bunker, and then they blew the bunker up.
- 45:39Speaker 2: That's very goodfather. Then it's gangster as fuck.
- 45:43Speaker 3: H And then you add that to the pagers. They
- 45:46Speaker 3: sent pagers out like didn't they send him out like
- 45:48Speaker 3: a long time in advance.
- 45:49Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. And they got in on the
- 45:52Speaker 2: supply side of it, like they made the pages.
- 45:57Speaker 3: I mean, you think about how incompetent some forms of
- 46:00Speaker 3: our government are, yeah, and then how good they are
- 46:04Speaker 3: at killing people that they want dead.
- 46:06Speaker 2: If they could do that pretty hard in the Midwest,
- 46:08Speaker 2: that would be great for people.
- 46:10Speaker 3: The same level of it. Well, that's not Cia, that's
- 46:13Speaker 3: the masade, but that's the same level of intent or
- 46:15Speaker 3: the idea for whoever does it over in Israel. But
- 46:17Speaker 3: the same level of intensity with other things, you could
- 46:20Speaker 3: dominate the world.
- 46:22Speaker 2: I mean, we could get a train going, we could
- 46:25Speaker 2: find actual fix it all the high speed rail in Texas.
- 46:28Speaker 2: I believe in it.
- 46:29Speaker 3: Imagine if they took that same kind of ingenuity and
- 46:31Speaker 3: tried to fix poverty in America.
- 46:33Speaker 2: Brian Simpsons said it good. He was on stage for
- 46:35Speaker 2: the Bottom of the Barrel and he knocked, like someone
- 46:37Speaker 2: knocked the barrel over and they all had to pick
- 46:39Speaker 2: it up, and he goes, that's the one thing that
- 46:40Speaker 2: could go wrong. We should really fix that. We're never
- 46:43Speaker 2: going to It's like America. We have the resources to
- 46:46Speaker 2: make sure that it never happens and we want.
- 46:50Speaker 3: Yeah, no, we won't. But it's we put all of
- 46:52Speaker 3: our effort into making shit that kills people quicker. That's
- 46:55Speaker 3: like the most amount of money, the most amount of
- 46:58Speaker 3: effort other than consumer.
- 47:00Speaker 2: I would say, also, sport is it at some weird,
- 47:03Speaker 2: very high level here, because that's war. It is try
- 47:07Speaker 2: it is a very militarized society. Everyone's getting ready to Yeah, yeah,
- 47:13Speaker 2: I mean football is just military strategy.
- 47:15Speaker 3: Have you ever seen Serbians play basketball?
- 47:18Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I've seen clips of that.
- 47:20Speaker 3: I've seen cps strung together, Serbian crowds play basketball. Big
- 47:25Speaker 3: if that shit doesn't feel like war the way the
- 47:27Speaker 3: crowd is responding, the cheering, the fucking enthusiasm. Like, dude,
- 47:31Speaker 3: I watch it all the time just for inspiration.
- 47:33Speaker 2: There as the only guys other than black guys who
- 47:35Speaker 2: can compete in it's the only whites who are contributing
- 47:38Speaker 2: to basketball at this point is the Yugoslavian.
- 47:41Speaker 3: Yeah, the giant whites from a warlike culture.
- 47:43Speaker 2: Yeah. Sometimes as he gets through, we've had like two
- 47:46Speaker 2: uzzies breaking well.
- 47:48Speaker 3: Serbian fighters are terrifying. The dudes from like the Caucaus region,
- 47:52Speaker 3: Like all the guys who are like daggers Georgia animals.
- 47:57Speaker 2: I couldn't get it to work, dude.
- 47:59Speaker 3: Someone just ented something or posted something about the UFC's
- 48:03Speaker 3: top pound for pound list, and six of them are
- 48:06Speaker 3: from the Caucasus region. Six of them.
- 48:09Speaker 2: It seems high. Also, sometimes that's like a genetic like
- 48:13Speaker 2: all the like marathon runners tend to be from one
- 48:16Speaker 2: mountain in Kenya.
- 48:19Speaker 3: There's the elite of the elite.
- 48:21Speaker 2: Yeah, like people go, black people are good at marathon running.
- 48:23Speaker 2: But then when you brought it down, it's like, okay,
- 48:25Speaker 2: but ninety percent of them are from Kenya, and then
- 48:26Speaker 2: ninety percent of those people are from one mountain in Kenya.
- 48:29Speaker 2: Whether like the air is very thin.
- 48:32Speaker 3: Oh, so they have adapted.
- 48:33Speaker 2: There's a book called Taboo, which is about race difference
- 48:37Speaker 2: in the in like all sports, and they break and
- 48:40Speaker 2: they're like you're dislikely to you know, you can't be
- 48:44Speaker 2: a white corner. Now there is one, I think, but
- 48:46Speaker 2: like that there are. It's very rare. It's very strange,
- 48:49Speaker 2: and some of its social stuff, but a lot of
- 48:51Speaker 2: it is like I was reading a thing about Mexicans
- 48:56Speaker 2: can't get knocked out.
- 48:57Speaker 3: That's not true.
- 48:58Speaker 2: No, there must be some but there's like some gene
- 49:00Speaker 2: that is very common in the Mexican population that makes
- 49:03Speaker 2: it less likely that you'll be knocked out. What really,
- 49:06Speaker 2: I think that's why they have lots of boxes. I'm
- 49:11Speaker 2: I'm half for something I ran on Wikipedia late at night.
- 49:13Speaker 3: Wouldn't that be crazy if they have such a history
- 49:15Speaker 3: of boxing, that boxing has somehow or another gotten into
- 49:18Speaker 3: their genes to have strong chins?
- 49:19Speaker 2: Well came first? Yeah?
- 49:21Speaker 3: Right? The chicken ot the am right and you cann
- 49:23Speaker 3: actually Mexican man the specific gene act N three. So
- 49:28Speaker 3: a video and how Mexicans are so good at boxing.
- 49:30Speaker 3: Mexican's produced two hundred and nine champions. That's pretty incredible.
- 49:34Speaker 3: Video explains how Mexicans supposedly have a gene that has
- 49:36Speaker 3: the act N three, which determines endurance, end or strength
- 49:40Speaker 3: one or the other. I was wondering, is there any
- 49:42Speaker 3: truth to this? What's the answer?
- 49:44Speaker 2: This is about what I need to believe. Something is
- 49:46Speaker 2: a Reddit post from four years ago.
- 49:49Speaker 3: If you look down there is this just one person's post.
- 49:52Speaker 3: Did someone answer them? Well?
- 49:53Speaker 5: I didn't want to get into the answers because you
- 49:55Speaker 5: never know that's where like his point, you never know
- 49:56Speaker 5: where this goes right. I was just gonna start there
- 49:59Speaker 5: and then start.
- 50:01Speaker 3: Let's find out if there's anything too that that's fascinating.
- 50:04Speaker 3: But I would wonder because if like you think about
- 50:06Speaker 3: like the history of boxing, Yeah, boy, Mexico has such
- 50:10Speaker 3: a history of boxing. And also there's a high level poverty.
- 50:15Speaker 3: So whenever the high level of poverty, there's a lot
- 50:17Speaker 3: of sports where you don't need a lot of money
- 50:19Speaker 3: to play them. Soccer's one, ye, boxing is another one.
- 50:22Speaker 3: You just need gloves and you could just fuck around
- 50:25Speaker 3: and guys to be good if I.
- 50:27Speaker 2: Getting so, I was doing a bit about this and
- 50:28Speaker 2: I could never get it to like really fly. But
- 50:30Speaker 2: like Kyrgyzstan, they have a wife wrestling. You wrestle a
- 50:34Speaker 2: woman into a van. If you want to marry a
- 50:36Speaker 2: woman in Kyrgyzstan, you like today, Yeah, they call it
- 50:39Speaker 2: ala kachu and there's a big Wikipedia page on that.
- 50:42Speaker 2: But you've got to get this lady in the van
- 50:44Speaker 2: against her will, and then once she gets in the van,
- 50:46Speaker 2: she's so ashamed that she marries you. But like, the
- 50:49Speaker 2: one sport they're good at at the Olympics is women's
- 50:51Speaker 2: freestyle wrestling. They're great at that. So what came first
- 50:55Speaker 2: the medals of the event. Did they have to get
- 50:57Speaker 2: good at wrestling because men kept putting him in vans?
- 50:59Speaker 2: Or were they so good at wrestling the men we like,
- 51:01Speaker 2: let's let them show off their beautiful skills.
- 51:03Speaker 3: That's a really good question. I would imagine they were
- 51:07Speaker 3: fending off men for a long a long tops of
- 51:09Speaker 3: they had a developed technique.
- 51:11Speaker 2: I assume it was a horse before it was a van. Jesus,
- 51:14Speaker 2: you can wrestle because they only got the van quite light.
- 51:17Speaker 2: There's no way anyway, that's one day. I'm going to
- 51:20Speaker 2: make that fly.
- 51:21Speaker 3: If it's a part of your culture, I would you know, Jesus, Yeah,
- 51:25Speaker 3: bride kidnapping Jesus Christ.
- 51:29Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of advice. We are breaking the law,
- 51:32Speaker 2: says Mediev.
- 51:33Speaker 5: But everyone understands the tradition and you can't change it.
- 51:36Speaker 3: Wow, member of a local government, a small village outside
- 51:38Speaker 3: of Kerg's capital, how do you say that, but everyone
- 51:45Speaker 3: here understands is a tradition and you can't change it.
- 51:47Speaker 3: Oh Okay. Mediev kidnapped his wife Elmira more than ten
- 51:52Speaker 3: years ago. He's one of many Kirk's men who have
- 51:55Speaker 3: gotten married through the Central Asian practice of bride kidnapping, and.
- 51:59Speaker 2: They go like eighty percent of the time it's consensual,
- 52:02Speaker 2: like they but then twenty percent of the time you're
- 52:05Speaker 2: just ratling a woman into a van against their will.
- 52:07Speaker 3: So there are consensual kidnappings where two people know each
- 52:10Speaker 3: other and it's kind of role playing. There's full on
- 52:13Speaker 3: off the street abductions. Unfortunately they both look the same.
- 52:17Speaker 2: You really want to saipher with it.
- 52:18Speaker 3: For that whoa It could be hard to tell if
- 52:20Speaker 3: the girl you see crying for her mom and clawing
- 52:23Speaker 3: the faces of her abductors is merely acting at her
- 52:26Speaker 3: part for her boyfriend and his family's sake, or is
- 52:29Speaker 3: actually on her way to being married against her will,
- 52:31Speaker 3: Like what the fuck?
- 52:33Speaker 2: Very important to be able to tell the difference. I
- 52:35Speaker 2: would say, I don't want to pass judgment on the
- 52:37Speaker 2: people of Kugystan.
- 52:38Speaker 3: This is the thing about the world. If you go
- 52:42Speaker 3: back like six thousand and seven thousand years ago, it
- 52:45Speaker 3: was all like that.
- 52:47Speaker 2: You can get back to one hundred years ago and
- 52:48Speaker 2: everyone that were footbinding in China, they're having beautiful doing it.
- 52:52Speaker 2: They didn't know they can't still be binding the faith
- 52:54Speaker 2: photos of it. They still footbinding in China.
- 52:57Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know how widely practiced it is.
- 52:59Speaker 3: They're older late yeah, and the when they stopped, but
- 53:02Speaker 3: I don't think it was that long ago. Like there's
- 53:04Speaker 3: people that are alive right now that have those.
- 53:05Speaker 2: Well, I'm for it. You don't want some filthy peasant
- 53:08Speaker 2: foot on your wife. You want to humble, graceful bro.
- 53:12Speaker 3: You better keep those socks on.
- 53:13Speaker 2: I was written the best.
- 53:14Speaker 3: Those feet are weird.
- 53:16Speaker 2: They look like they folded in on them.
- 53:18Speaker 3: It's so painful to water.
- 53:21Speaker 2: I think it's Cameroon. They do chest bind like they
- 53:24Speaker 2: flatten the woman's when she starts getting breast, they like,
- 53:27Speaker 2: you flatten the breast. But what's weird is that it's
- 53:29Speaker 2: the Christian progressive people who are doing it, because the
- 53:32Speaker 2: culture is once a woman has breasts, she has to
- 53:34Speaker 2: get married and she has to come out of school.
- 53:36Speaker 2: So because you love your daughter, you iron the boobs
- 53:39Speaker 2: down so that she doesn't have to get married for
- 53:42Speaker 2: a couple of years. Isn't that funny?
- 53:45Speaker 3: Jesus Christ.
- 53:46Speaker 2: They should put an end to it.
- 53:48Speaker 3: Oh, last shoe factory making Lotus shoes closed in ninety nine.
- 53:53Speaker 2: Wow, there could be some Michael Jordan Lotus shoes.
- 53:58Speaker 3: Loatus shoes. Oh my god, So when did this start?
- 54:04Speaker 5: Twelve hundreds or something like that.
- 54:06Speaker 3: Wow, the twelve hundred. That lady's faith. Look at that
- 54:10Speaker 3: lady's foot, Look at that. That is so crazy.
- 54:13Speaker 2: You see, I just see beauty.
- 54:15Speaker 3: I just see I see painful pinky toes. How is
- 54:18Speaker 3: that lady ever gonna take like an aerobics class. Look
- 54:21Speaker 3: look how it's become the part of the bottom of
- 54:23Speaker 3: her foot. That's so crazy. How badly does that fuck
- 54:27Speaker 3: with your bag?
- 54:28Speaker 2: It's so big on that screen. I've never seen him before.
- 54:31Speaker 3: Bro, those feet are busted.
- 54:34Speaker 2: Up, but the comedy's stamped it out.
- 54:36Speaker 3: Mostly can't work.
- 54:40Speaker 2: No, you gotta be Yeah, you can't by taking the
- 54:43Speaker 2: great glorious revolution. Oh the loadus shoes that have beautiful shoes,
- 54:48Speaker 2: that's so crazy. You can't buy them strike the shop.
- 54:52Speaker 3: You never know. I have the same thing. No, that's
- 54:54Speaker 3: a brand name. That's a brand name.
- 54:56Speaker 2: You walk into your house until O. J. Simpson merchandise
- 54:58Speaker 2: and foot band loaded shoes.
- 55:01Speaker 5: It's pretty good.
- 55:04Speaker 3: That's hilarious. What a fucked up practice.
- 55:07Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of them.
- 55:08Speaker 3: Yeah, what about the one where women put plates in their.
- 55:11Speaker 2: Lips, in the lip, the neck extension I have, the
- 55:14Speaker 2: ring neck extension.
- 55:15Speaker 3: Ring neck extensions don't even make sense, Like how does
- 55:19Speaker 3: that work? Like if you take it off, will your
- 55:23Speaker 3: head fall off? Like do you have anything? Do you
- 55:26Speaker 3: have any muscles left to support your head? I would
- 55:28Speaker 3: doubt it, Like you have to keep that on for
- 55:30Speaker 3: the rest.
- 55:30Speaker 2: I don't think they're meant to be that long.
- 55:32Speaker 3: No, I think, Bro, that's fucking insane. That's insane.
- 55:36Speaker 2: Just one guy saw a giraffe? Can we do that?
- 55:40Speaker 5: Oh?
- 55:41Speaker 3: This is at a photoshop? Is that photoshop? That that's
- 55:44Speaker 3: really legit?
- 55:45Speaker 2: But there's a young lady doing Okay, that can't.
- 55:47Speaker 3: Be that can't be real. That can't be real. That
- 55:50Speaker 3: lady's head is fifteen, that's like.
- 55:51Speaker 2: That last one is like AI, guys.
- 55:54Speaker 3: Bro, that's so dark, that's so weird, Like I don't
- 55:58Speaker 3: like that at all. Yeah, oh, don't show me. Oh
- 56:04Speaker 3: they just keep piling those things on and fitting them.
- 56:09Speaker 3: What a weird thing to do to your neck? Man?
- 56:13Speaker 2: What we do we inject lips?
- 56:15Speaker 3: Bro? That's crazy. She's got a towel under her chin.
- 56:18Speaker 2: But they could be watching it being like you know
- 56:19Speaker 2: in America, they chop off a little boy's penis and
- 56:22Speaker 2: they turn it into a pretend vagina. Isn't that sick
- 56:24Speaker 2: and wrong?
- 56:25Speaker 3: Well, they probably do that there too, and I would
- 56:27Speaker 3: agree with them.
- 56:28Speaker 2: That's a very important part of our culture.
- 56:29Speaker 3: I wonder if they do do it. You know, I
- 56:33Speaker 3: heard someone in the green room was saying the other
- 56:35Speaker 3: day the reason why there's so many lady boys in
- 56:38Speaker 3: Thailand was because being homosexual was illegal.
- 56:43Speaker 2: Wasn't it legal everywhere?
- 56:45Speaker 3: This person that said it is just they said it
- 56:47Speaker 3: in passing. I don't know if it was true, and
- 56:49Speaker 3: I was. I meant to google it, and I totally
- 56:50Speaker 3: forgotten until now.
- 56:51Speaker 2: I mean, it could be. I'm pretty sure it was
- 56:55Speaker 2: illegal all over the place and no one else was
- 56:57Speaker 2: doing that. No one else said that that's true. Kill reaction.
- 57:00Speaker 3: Well, you know that's the thing about what is that
- 57:05Speaker 3: fuck Turing? Alan Turing?
- 57:06Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 57:07Speaker 3: Alan Turing was the guy who invented the.
- 57:09Speaker 2: Turing test, and he was gay and they and.
- 57:11Speaker 3: They fucking poisoned them. They gave him like hormone blockers.
- 57:15Speaker 2: It was it just because he was gay. Yeah, there
- 57:17Speaker 2: were so many gay British guys though, Yeah, but he
- 57:20Speaker 2: was like a long history of like Oscar Wild, everyone
- 57:23Speaker 2: knew he was gay, and it was only when he
- 57:24Speaker 2: went after a guy's son that I think they went,
- 57:26Speaker 2: oh yeah, I think he went after a guy's young son.
- 57:29Speaker 3: Well, they could always target you for it, though.
- 57:31Speaker 2: If they want to get you for something else, they will, Yeah,
- 57:33Speaker 2: they use that. I think Byron was off.
- 57:35Speaker 3: But he was like hospitalized. Legality of same sex activity, private, adult,
- 57:41Speaker 3: consensual and non commercial sodomy was decriminalized in Thailand in
- 57:46Speaker 3: nineteen fifty six. However, same sex attraction and transgender identities
- 57:51Speaker 3: were still seen as socially unacceptable. In many cases, those
- 57:55Speaker 3: the gender expression or behavior falls out of social norms
- 57:58Speaker 3: are less likely to be tolerated or except.
- 58:01Speaker 5: So what happened just this year the they've allowed same
- 58:06Speaker 5: sex marriage and I.
- 58:08Speaker 2: Have allowed adoption from this year. But it's very late
- 58:12Speaker 2: to it because I think a lot of gay couples
- 58:13Speaker 2: have been going there to get children for a long time,
- 58:16Speaker 2: and now they're saying you can have them here. That's
- 58:19Speaker 2: a big that's not spoken about, is the the rent
- 58:24Speaker 2: womb and the kind of bizarre I'm against it.
- 58:27Speaker 3: It's very strange, the idea of a surrogate is very odd,
- 58:30Speaker 3: like you're having a baby, but it's not really you
- 58:32Speaker 3: having the baby. Like, Okay, I get it. If someone
- 58:34Speaker 3: can have a baby, the couple wants to have a baby,
- 58:36Speaker 3: they hire a surrogate. I get it. It's your jeans,
- 58:39Speaker 3: it's your baby, but it's still.
- 58:41Speaker 2: But also this, I mean, I know Elon has like
- 58:44Speaker 2: a lot of kids with different ladies, but then I mean,
- 58:46Speaker 2: that's the public one. He's like one of the only
- 58:49Speaker 2: public facing billionaires. There's got to be guys out there
- 58:51Speaker 2: who like I'm getting I'm getting ten thousand kids. I'm like,
- 58:56Speaker 2: take my come and move it out across. I'm going
- 58:59Speaker 2: to be Genghist with science.
- 59:00Speaker 3: Well, guys have done that. That are doctors.
- 59:03Speaker 2: They just put their ocome. Yeah, as a guy who's
- 59:08Speaker 2: there's maybe a thousand siblings in Adelaide.
- 59:11Speaker 3: Every time guys get a chance, they do Itgacy has
- 59:14Speaker 3: a long history, dating back to ancient times, with the
- 59:16Speaker 3: real examples found in Babylon in the Bible. While traditionally
- 59:19Speaker 3: involved natural conception, modern surrogacy, including artificial insemination and in
- 59:24Speaker 3: viture fertilization, has been developed through scientific and legal advancements. Okay,
- 59:28Speaker 3: but The thing is, it's like they're just playing with words.
- 59:32Speaker 3: Hold on, let's go back, because they're saying surrogacy for
- 59:36Speaker 3: someone having sex with someone and getting them pregnant and
- 59:39Speaker 3: having a baby. That's not surrogacy. You got a pregnant
- 59:41Speaker 3: with that's a mistress.
- 59:43Speaker 1: You.
- 59:43Speaker 3: Yeah, you got another lady pregnant. That's all that is.
- 59:46Speaker 3: So what we think of is surrogacy is you taking
- 59:50Speaker 3: an embryo and inserting it into another woman's womb. Right, Yeah,
- 59:54Speaker 3: that's a completely new thing. And I think that's very
- 59:58Speaker 3: weird because.
- 59:59Speaker 2: Someone in like Wives of Soldiers.
- 1:00:00Speaker 3: The other one's like in agreement, like if your wife
- 1:00:03Speaker 3: can't get pregnant, but she wants to have a baby,
- 1:00:05Speaker 3: and she says, listen, if you fuck my best friend,
- 1:00:07Speaker 3: she'll have the baby and then we'll take care of
- 1:00:10Speaker 3: the baby. Yeah, and I know that I can't have babies,
- 1:00:12Speaker 3: but you you know, if that's if you guys are
- 1:00:17Speaker 3: that kind of swingers and you're down with that, and
- 1:00:19Speaker 3: that's that's up to you.
- 1:00:20Speaker 2: That feels different from this science.
- 1:00:22Speaker 3: Not surrogacy. You just had a baby with a different human.
- 1:00:24Speaker 2: No, sorry, sarrogacy seems right bad and wrong. I'm I'm
- 1:00:28Speaker 2: I'm digging in.
- 1:00:29Speaker 3: Well, bro, it's gonna go to artificial wombs, all right,
- 1:00:32Speaker 3: that's gonna be the new one. And whether that's twenty
- 1:00:35Speaker 3: years from now or fifty years from now, you're gonna
- 1:00:37Speaker 3: be able to make a baby outside of a human body,
- 1:00:40Speaker 3: it's gonna get real freaky.
- 1:00:42Speaker 2: We gotta be we gotta draw a hot wine.
- 1:00:43Speaker 5: Pulled this up. I was the IVF thing. Maybe a
- 1:00:46Speaker 5: weird thought. I'm a little stone thought, but it's not possible.
- 1:00:49Speaker 5: How Jesus was born was that they didn't have any
- 1:00:51Speaker 5: sort of way, like forgot about it.
- 1:00:55Speaker 3: It could be could be the day you had that technique.
- 1:00:58Speaker 2: Jimmie was the Holy Spirit.
- 1:01:00Speaker 5: I know what they say.
- 1:01:01Speaker 3: I'm just but like, yeah, well, well, for sure, they
- 1:01:05Speaker 3: could have inserted sperm intour without her having sex. They
- 1:01:11Speaker 3: could have been pregnant.
- 1:01:12Speaker 2: I think there's like dolphins that can do it. If
- 1:01:14Speaker 2: dolphins are on their own for a long time, then
- 1:01:16Speaker 2: an egg can fertilize another egg. It doesn't happen often,
- 1:01:20Speaker 2: but there are examples of it.
- 1:01:21Speaker 3: Really, Yes, that's nuts.
- 1:01:25Speaker 2: I think I believe that I've read that. You sure
- 1:01:28Speaker 2: I've said that loudly and confidently at a party before
- 1:01:31Speaker 2: it might have been.
- 1:01:33Speaker 3: So crazy that a mammal could do that inside of them,
- 1:01:38Speaker 3: they can.
- 1:01:39Speaker 2: I think it's like a couple examples of auto insemination.
- 1:01:43Speaker 3: So it's like one of the eggs has so much
- 1:01:44Speaker 3: gigs in it that it leaks out.
- 1:01:46Speaker 2: You get a very butcher egg. Yeah, you get a
- 1:01:48Speaker 2: trans egg.
- 1:01:49Speaker 3: You get maybe one of the eggs is male and
- 1:01:51Speaker 3: it just gizz is on the other egg.
- 1:01:53Speaker 2: You know, it's early develop it.
- 1:01:55Speaker 3: Yes, just like comes out of maybe jizzu is like
- 1:01:59Speaker 3: in some of them out the box.
- 1:02:01Speaker 2: I think there's virgin birth in nature. It's not common,
- 1:02:04Speaker 2: there's a lot.
- 1:02:04Speaker 3: But definitely these animals switch genders that the animals like,
- 1:02:09Speaker 3: especially like primitive reptilian type fucking weird animals. Yeah, they can.
- 1:02:14Speaker 3: There's there's certain animals that can switch their genders.
- 1:02:17Speaker 2: I think sea ladies have a penis.
- 1:02:20Speaker 3: I think so get that. You know hyenas have a penis.
- 1:02:23Speaker 3: Females no, I didn't bigger than the males just for shore. No,
- 1:02:27Speaker 3: they dominate the males. That they're bigger than female hyenas.
- 1:02:32Speaker 3: That they're one of the rare matriarchal mammals. So the
- 1:02:36Speaker 3: females are bigger than the males. They have more testosterone
- 1:02:40Speaker 3: than the males, and they have bigger dicks, and they
- 1:02:43Speaker 3: hold the males down. Jay, you want some of this pussy,
- 1:02:46Speaker 3: And then the male has to take his little dick
- 1:02:48Speaker 3: and stick it inside of her. Big dick.
- 1:02:50Speaker 2: Big, and that lady dick just slapping against his belly.
- 1:02:53Speaker 3: Yeah, you want to hear him worse. Sixty percent of
- 1:02:55Speaker 3: all hyaenas that are born suffocate to death during childbirth
- 1:03:00Speaker 3: coming out of that dick because they're coming out.
- 1:03:02Speaker 2: They're coming out of the dick.
- 1:03:03Speaker 3: Uh huh.
- 1:03:04Speaker 2: The vaginas on the tip of the dick.
- 1:03:06Speaker 3: No, it's it's really a vagiant. Come on, it's a vagina.
- 1:03:09Speaker 3: But it's like, can we ya, Oh, it's it's bananas.
- 1:03:13Speaker 3: It's bananas.
- 1:03:14Speaker 2: I want it because I called it.
- 1:03:15Speaker 3: They call it like a faux penis.
- 1:03:17Speaker 2: I think last time Shane came on here, I think
- 1:03:19Speaker 2: you guys were talking about the transpenises and then he
- 1:03:22Speaker 2: just kept texting me the transpap He's horrible swack up
- 1:03:26Speaker 2: in the middle of the night.
- 1:03:27Speaker 3: The skin graft scars and you're like, what am I looking?
- 1:03:30Speaker 2: Why is it so much bigger than mine? Why can't
- 1:03:33Speaker 2: you have a humble penis. I've got to say. Wow.
- 1:03:36Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, so female hyenas have this giant fake
- 1:03:39Speaker 3: dick and ah yeah, it's huge.
- 1:03:42Speaker 2: They have to put their pain. That's why they have
- 1:03:45Speaker 2: to put their dicks in.
- 1:03:46Speaker 3: Exactly, and that's how the babies come out of that,
- 1:03:48Speaker 3: and a lot of the babies die on the.
- 1:03:50Speaker 2: Way out, which destroy the hyenas.
- 1:03:52Speaker 3: Sixty I think I think that's the number. Let's make
- 1:03:55Speaker 3: sure that that's the correct number. I'm pretty sure it is.
- 1:03:57Speaker 2: I think it's people will be furious.
- 1:03:59Speaker 3: Suffocate during childbirth, and then on top of that, like
- 1:04:04Speaker 3: then they fight over who gets the nipple and some
- 1:04:07Speaker 3: of them get killed.
- 1:04:09Speaker 2: Well, that's why they so unhappy all the time. Oh,
- 1:04:11Speaker 2: the lion king.
- 1:04:12Speaker 3: They're just in the most ruthless environment and they're not
- 1:04:15Speaker 3: the biggest animals.
- 1:04:17Speaker 5: All right, that's the mother dying.
- 1:04:22Speaker 3: Oh, nine to eighteen percent the mother dies. Jesus Christ,
- 1:04:27Speaker 3: that's crazy. She imagined eighty percent of the women dying
- 1:04:33Speaker 3: because they're giving birth. Yeah, sixty percent of all spotted
- 1:04:36Speaker 3: hyaena cubs uh dye in the early stages of life,
- 1:04:40Speaker 3: especially from the first litter. Some scientific observations placed a
- 1:04:44Speaker 3: survival rate of firstborn cubs at around forty percent or less.
- 1:04:47Speaker 2: Wow, siblicide is huge.
- 1:04:50Speaker 3: Siblicides a very huge. They fight to the death over
- 1:04:53Speaker 3: like little nipples.
- 1:04:56Speaker 2: And like step dads are uncome will in the endome.
- 1:04:59Speaker 3: Well that that's also why female hyaenas I think are bigger.
- 1:05:03Speaker 2: I predict.
- 1:05:04Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they're there to because the men hyaenas
- 1:05:06Speaker 3: are bitches and the men probably eat the babies. Because
- 1:05:10Speaker 3: that happens in other community like that happens in bears
- 1:05:13Speaker 3: in the bear world, female tigers or female bears. Rather
- 1:05:17Speaker 3: the reason why when you stumble upon a female bear,
- 1:05:20Speaker 3: she's ready to fuck you up. Like this the worst
- 1:05:23Speaker 3: thing that can happen in the woods. You stumble upon
- 1:05:24Speaker 3: a female bear with their cubs, you're in real trouble.
- 1:05:27Speaker 3: If you stumble upon a male and he might he
- 1:05:31Speaker 3: might not have any interest in you at all. But
- 1:05:33Speaker 3: if you stumble, if you're too close to the cubs,
- 1:05:35Speaker 3: if like she is in front and the cubs are
- 1:05:39Speaker 3: behind and you're behind them is run away, bro. You
- 1:05:43Speaker 3: might not have the time. She might just come for you,
- 1:05:46Speaker 3: and you can't do a goddamn thing about it because
- 1:05:49Speaker 3: she's dealing with male grizzlies eating her cubs all the time,
- 1:05:53Speaker 3: so she's always on ten.
- 1:05:56Speaker 2: I mean, if we got to use Yosemite, should we
- 1:05:57Speaker 2: bring a gun?
- 1:05:59Speaker 3: You shouldn't go oh off trail for sure, right, you
- 1:06:02Speaker 3: shouldn't go off trail. You should definitely bring bear spray
- 1:06:04Speaker 3: if you're any But Yosemite is in California, right, I
- 1:06:08Speaker 3: fucked this up before Yellowstone has the grizzlies, Yosemite has
- 1:06:13Speaker 3: the black bears. Black bears generally aren't as dangerous as
- 1:06:17Speaker 3: grizzly bears.
- 1:06:18Speaker 2: I think grizzly bears in California.
- 1:06:20Speaker 3: No, there's not, even though it's the flag, the state flag. Yeah,
- 1:06:23Speaker 3: it's the bear on the flag.
- 1:06:24Speaker 2: The flags.
- 1:06:25Speaker 3: Well, they killed too many people, and they killed them all.
- 1:06:29Speaker 2: But they've got coyotes still running around.
- 1:06:31Speaker 3: Coyotes don't really kill people, though they kill your cats
- 1:06:33Speaker 3: and dogs. Mountain lions occasionally kill people, but grizzlies were
- 1:06:37Speaker 3: killing a lot.
- 1:06:37Speaker 2: I feel like you guys have way more animals that
- 1:06:39Speaker 2: kill people than we do. Oh yeah, for sure, people
- 1:06:41Speaker 2: talk about our animals with them. We've got a snake
- 1:06:43Speaker 2: and we've got a spider.
- 1:06:44Speaker 3: No, but you want to watch that for you've got
- 1:06:45Speaker 3: saltwater crocodiles, motherfucker.
- 1:06:47Speaker 2: But if you stay away from the crocs, what are
- 1:06:49Speaker 2: you talking about? You just just keep away from final
- 1:06:52Speaker 2: with Queensland, but they are.
- 1:06:54Speaker 3: So you have to avoid a whole part of your
- 1:06:56Speaker 3: country because it's infested by monsters.
- 1:06:58Speaker 2: We were happy to give that well to the Japanese.
- 1:07:00Speaker 2: We made a deal that if the Japanese invaded, we'd
- 1:07:02Speaker 2: let them have the saltwater crocodile part of the country.
- 1:07:04Speaker 2: Have you seen is Bob Cata. This is like our
- 1:07:06Speaker 2: best clip from a politician. He's talking about gay marriage
- 1:07:10Speaker 2: and he turns it into talking about crocodiles. No Ah,
- 1:07:14Speaker 2: Bob Cadat crocodile is my favorite. He wins his fine
- 1:07:18Speaker 2: North Queensland seat every year. He's not in any party,
- 1:07:20Speaker 2: but he's like, let a thousand blossoms bloom.
- 1:07:24Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean, you know people are entitled to
- 1:07:31Speaker 3: the sexual proclimities.
- 1:07:34Speaker 2: I mean, let there be a thousand blossoms blooms. So,
- 1:07:40Speaker 2: but I ain't spending any time warrant because in the meantime,
- 1:07:44Speaker 2: every three months a person is torn to pieces by
- 1:07:47Speaker 2: a crocodile in North Queensland. He's the man he needs
- 1:07:52Speaker 2: more power in our government.
- 1:07:54Speaker 3: That's just the person is torn apart by a crocodile
- 1:07:57Speaker 3: in North Queensland.
- 1:07:58Speaker 2: Yeah, true, I believe it, Jesus Chris. There's a lot
- 1:08:02Speaker 2: of a lot of people.
- 1:08:03Speaker 3: There's a lot of everything.
- 1:08:05Speaker 2: The ocean as well.
- 1:08:07Speaker 3: I want you imagine that. Yeah, what if every three
- 1:08:10Speaker 3: months someone got killed by a were wolf? Would you
- 1:08:12Speaker 3: still go out at night?
- 1:08:14Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 1:08:16Speaker 3: Yes, every three months someone gets killed by a werewolf
- 1:08:20Speaker 3: in your town.
- 1:08:21Speaker 2: I mean, how many people died on the roads every day?
- 1:08:24Speaker 3: I understand, but there's something uniquely terrified about getting eaten.
- 1:08:28Speaker 2: The crocs never got Steve Owin. That was the that
- 1:08:31Speaker 2: was the raise. I'm more upset by the raise.
- 1:08:33Speaker 3: Well he got to handle the crocs. What's that for?
- 1:08:36Speaker 5: Destins? Twenty twenty and nine non fatal times?
- 1:08:38Speaker 3: See it's bullshit, but that's not.
- 1:08:40Speaker 5: Something You just didn't die. You got ripped apart though.
- 1:08:43Speaker 3: Nine. Yeah, but that's not three. That's not like what
- 1:08:46Speaker 3: he was saying.
- 1:08:48Speaker 2: Come down, he was what was his number?
- 1:08:50Speaker 3: He was?
- 1:08:51Speaker 2: I said three a month?
- 1:08:52Speaker 5: Said also seven years, every three months, every three months,
- 1:08:55Speaker 5: every three months.
- 1:08:56Speaker 2: We might have clamped down on it.
- 1:08:57Speaker 5: That's only four a year.
- 1:08:58Speaker 3: Yeah, but also there's.
- 1:09:02Speaker 2: The city, you know, walking through the city and gone
- 1:09:05Speaker 2: the crocs guy coming in.
- 1:09:06Speaker 3: Yeah, but if you go anywhere near a lake and
- 1:09:08Speaker 3: you make the wrong kind of vibrations.
- 1:09:10Speaker 2: Yeah, they were very I went to cans once and
- 1:09:12Speaker 2: they were all very scared.
- 1:09:13Speaker 3: They come out so quick, they come out so quick.
- 1:09:16Speaker 2: But what a beautiful way to dot if you have to.
- 1:09:18Speaker 3: Not beautiful, he was eating by Tillian Evil. The last
- 1:09:23Speaker 3: moments of your life will be horrible energy that you
- 1:09:26Speaker 3: will pass on to the cosmos. You will die in
- 1:09:29Speaker 3: the most horrific way possible.
- 1:09:32Speaker 5: On two pieces of paper.
- 1:09:33Speaker 2: Yeah, well he's over plans.
- 1:09:35Speaker 3: These are all the people that have been cans cans
- 1:09:39Speaker 3: Cape Cape York. There's a lot of non fatals in there.
- 1:09:45Speaker 2: No one, you know, we don't have it. We've got
- 1:09:47Speaker 2: cans that would be the biggest city up.
- 1:09:49Speaker 3: What are those as large as the nile crocodiles, the
- 1:09:52Speaker 3: saltwater crocodiles.
- 1:09:54Speaker 2: I don't know how big non crocodile is. I think
- 1:09:57Speaker 2: they just at an alligator for the first time. They're
- 1:09:59Speaker 2: not as scary.
- 1:10:00Speaker 3: Well you got to see a big one, dude. Lady
- 1:10:02Speaker 3: just got killed in Orlando by one last week.
- 1:10:04Speaker 5: Water larger, more vicious.
- 1:10:06Speaker 3: Saltwaters are larger than the Niles. Bro, you have the
- 1:10:09Speaker 3: most aggressive crocodiles.
- 1:10:11Speaker 2: In the world, got them, and we got It's a lot.
- 1:10:15Speaker 3: You have the most aggressive dinosaur in the world in
- 1:10:20Speaker 3: your country.
- 1:10:21Speaker 2: That's why to get one would be an honor.
- 1:10:24Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:10:26Speaker 2: I'd like to.
- 1:10:28Speaker 3: Get together with some special forces dudes and kill those
- 1:10:30Speaker 3: motherfuckers from the air. Okay, everybody thinks you have to
- 1:10:33Speaker 3: keep them around. You got to keep them around. Yeah,
- 1:10:36Speaker 3: I think maybe we keep three in a zoo and
- 1:10:38Speaker 3: everybody else is dead. Beautiful, turn them into shoes.
- 1:10:41Speaker 5: About the cage of death, what's that You can get
- 1:10:44Speaker 5: into a cage?
- 1:10:45Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good cage. That's a cave. You'd be fine.
- 1:10:50Speaker 1: No, no, no, people, why do you want to do that?
- 1:10:53Speaker 1: I don't want to do Jesus. That is such a monster,
- 1:10:56Speaker 1: such a heartless monster. If that thing opened up somehow accidentally,
- 1:11:01Speaker 1: it would love to eat you.
- 1:11:03Speaker 3: What is wrong with people?
- 1:11:06Speaker 2: He's trying to get in there.
- 1:11:08Speaker 3: Look at that thing.
- 1:11:09Speaker 2: It's so big.
- 1:11:11Speaker 3: They're so terrifying, dude. I mean, it is a fucking monster.
- 1:11:15Speaker 3: And that's not even a big one. Man. I have
- 1:11:18Speaker 3: a friend. His name is Jim Shockey and he's a
- 1:11:20Speaker 3: professional hunter who lives in Canada. And uh, they sent
- 1:11:25Speaker 3: him to Africa to shoot crocodiles because they were killing
- 1:11:28Speaker 3: so many people in this one village. And he said
- 1:11:30Speaker 3: when he got there, there was this one particular big
- 1:11:33Speaker 3: croc that was there. There was just killing everybody. Everybody
- 1:11:37Speaker 3: was like missing a foot, everybody had one arm.
- 1:11:39Speaker 2: Like for real the jewels, but for crocodile.
- 1:11:41Speaker 3: Yeah, he said, it was crazy. It's like so many
- 1:11:43Speaker 3: people in this town had been bitten by crocodiles. So
- 1:11:47Speaker 3: they had developed a system where they put posts in
- 1:11:50Speaker 3: the ground in the water so that they knew the
- 1:11:53Speaker 3: crocodiles couldn't get into that, right, So what the crocodiles
- 1:11:56Speaker 3: did was go around it and sneak into the water
- 1:11:59Speaker 3: when the people weren't.
- 1:12:00Speaker 2: Their impressive beauty. Have you sayen in India when they
- 1:12:02Speaker 2: get like a puma in the village and everyone's standing
- 1:12:04Speaker 2: on the roof and the puma's like running around the
- 1:12:06Speaker 2: streets and throwing it on it.
- 1:12:08Speaker 3: Yeah, nuts.
- 1:12:10Speaker 2: Is that it's a big crat Philippines.
- 1:12:13Speaker 5: Oh my god, it's over twenty feet.
- 1:12:15Speaker 3: Oh is that a saltwater one.
- 1:12:16Speaker 2: It looks bigger because they're very small people.
- 1:12:18Speaker 3: But that's so big, dude, that's so big. That's such
- 1:12:22Speaker 3: a dinosaur.
- 1:12:24Speaker 2: And then we tended to handbags and shoes.
- 1:12:26Speaker 3: Thank god, I went down a rabbit hole the other
- 1:12:29Speaker 3: It's so funny that people want to keep them around.
- 1:12:31Speaker 3: I know. I'm like, I want to be real clear,
- 1:12:33Speaker 3: I don't want them to go extinct, for sure. There's
- 1:12:36Speaker 3: mostly just fucking around here.
- 1:12:37Speaker 2: They shouldn't be in residential.
- 1:12:39Speaker 3: It is weird that we tolerate a certain amount of monsters.
- 1:12:44Speaker 2: It's weird to reintroduce them. Seems nutty. Oh, when people
- 1:12:48Speaker 2: are bringing the wolves back.
- 1:12:49Speaker 3: Bro the thing they're doing in Colorado is so stupid
- 1:12:52Speaker 3: because this is what they did. Okay, Colorado took these
- 1:12:54Speaker 3: wolves from Oregon, Yeah, that had been preying on cattle,
- 1:12:58Speaker 3: and then they moved them into Colorado where they prayed
- 1:13:02Speaker 3: on cattle. And then the people whose cattle they were
- 1:13:06Speaker 3: praying on got pissed off, so they took a bunch
- 1:13:08Speaker 3: of them and removed them and put them in Pitkin
- 1:13:11Speaker 3: County over by Aspen where they prey on cattle. It's
- 1:13:16Speaker 3: the dumbest thing. Everyone's like, oh, it's going to be industry. No,
- 1:13:20Speaker 3: they're dumb. They don't know what they're doing. It's wildlife.
- 1:13:22Speaker 3: It's ballot box wild No, it's the governor. The governor
- 1:13:27Speaker 3: and his husband wanted to do it this way. They
- 1:13:29Speaker 3: wanted to reintroduce wolves, like but wolves were already on
- 1:13:32Speaker 3: their way to being reintroduced to Colorado. They were doing
- 1:13:34Speaker 3: it naturally. There's wolves. There's a pack of wolves that
- 1:13:37Speaker 3: was established that had already made their way into Colorado.
- 1:13:39Speaker 3: Colorado boils borders Wyoming. Wyoming has wolves, So they were
- 1:13:43Speaker 3: getting wolves.
- 1:13:44Speaker 2: Is this a tourism thing or they just like.
- 1:13:46Speaker 3: They just look, there's some there's some like real thought
- 1:13:52Speaker 3: that could be put into whether or not an ecosystem
- 1:13:55Speaker 3: should be balanced with the proper amount of predators. And
- 1:13:58Speaker 3: if you the human were responsible for killing off this
- 1:14:02Speaker 3: one major predator that was in this ecosystem, Yeah, that
- 1:14:06Speaker 3: seems irresponsible, and maybe we can bring that animal back
- 1:14:11Speaker 3: and it would balance out the system. This is the
- 1:14:13Speaker 3: thought process. The problem with that is these animals have
- 1:14:17Speaker 3: become accustomed to just killing cattle. They did it in
- 1:14:20Speaker 3: Oregon than they did in Colorado, and then they're doing
- 1:14:22Speaker 3: it where they are now, and everybody wants to pretend
- 1:14:24Speaker 3: it's not happening. Yes, they want to pretend they didn't
- 1:14:26Speaker 3: do that. They didn't do a giant fuck up. These
- 1:14:28Speaker 3: are not wild wolves that are going to go out
- 1:14:31Speaker 3: and hunt down elk and make the population smaller. No,
- 1:14:35Speaker 3: they're used to preying on cattle, so they're killing cows
- 1:14:39Speaker 3: all the time.
- 1:14:40Speaker 2: A lot of people who want to hunt, right, Like,
- 1:14:43Speaker 2: there are people who want to take out the animals
- 1:14:44Speaker 2: that the wolves would have taken out.
- 1:14:46Speaker 3: Well, yeah, but you you should have a balance, you
- 1:14:49Speaker 3: should have mountain lions. It's like the wild can't. You
- 1:14:53Speaker 3: can't sterilize certain aspects of the ecosystem because they're dangerous
- 1:14:57Speaker 3: to you. But what you shouldn't do is take these
- 1:15:00Speaker 3: animals and then move them into an area where nothing
- 1:15:04Speaker 3: is prepared. The ranchers aren't prepared. No one warned them.
- 1:15:08Speaker 3: They moved them to that area without letting anybody know.
- 1:15:11Speaker 3: One of my friends has a ranch there. They release
- 1:15:14Speaker 3: some of the wolves on his property, and these wolves, now,
- 1:15:18Speaker 3: all of a sudden, wolves that are used to killing
- 1:15:20Speaker 3: cattle are killing cattle down there.
- 1:15:22Speaker 2: Yeah, because it would be way easy.
- 1:15:23Speaker 3: They're easier. They're all together they don't run away, they
- 1:15:27Speaker 3: stand still and you kill the cat.
- 1:15:29Speaker 2: They're like in Britain they got rid of all the.
- 1:15:31Speaker 3: Wolves, the wolves everywhere. Yeah, there's a reason why they
- 1:15:36Speaker 3: did it is because wolves are like the most intelligent.
- 1:15:39Speaker 3: They're like psychic super predators. They're the most intelligent of
- 1:15:42Speaker 3: all predators. They're the only predator that we have in
- 1:15:45Speaker 3: North America that hunts in a pack, and they're big.
- 1:15:49Speaker 3: You're dealing with one hundred pound plus animal that hunts
- 1:15:52Speaker 3: in the back.
- 1:15:53Speaker 2: They're bringing back the die wolf as well.
- 1:15:56Speaker 3: Well, so that's different.
- 1:15:57Speaker 2: Okay, this is not to put it.
- 1:16:01Speaker 3: They're not going to put it in the wild, all right.
- 1:16:03Speaker 3: They brought it back to show that this this gene
- 1:16:07Speaker 3: editing that they do for animals is legitimate. So to
- 1:16:10Speaker 3: do that, they reproduced an animal from the genes of
- 1:16:14Speaker 3: one of them. What was it. What were the numbers, Jamie,
- 1:16:16Speaker 3: One was like fifty thousand years old and one was
- 1:16:19Speaker 3: like seventy thousand years old. When Best Shapiro was in here,
- 1:16:22Speaker 3: the lady who's like the head geneticist, Yeah, brilliant woman.
- 1:16:26Speaker 3: She was explaining it all to us, and it's just
- 1:16:28Speaker 3: the whole thing is bananas. So they essentially didn't even
- 1:16:31Speaker 3: know what they were gonna look like until they came out.
- 1:16:33Speaker 2: Is the hope that we get the dinosaurs, well that
- 1:16:36Speaker 2: kind of built Jurassic Park.
- 1:16:38Speaker 3: That's gonna come if they have DNA from a dinosaur.
- 1:16:41Speaker 3: I don't think they do. I don't think it's possible.
- 1:16:44Speaker 3: I think it's too degraded when it's that old that
- 1:16:46Speaker 3: you don't find like. But maybe they'll find some.
- 1:16:48Speaker 2: The Tasmanian devils, definitely, they're always trying to bring that back.
- 1:16:52Speaker 3: No, the Tasmanian tigers, sorry, the Tasmanian devils.
- 1:16:54Speaker 2: The devil is there around.
- 1:16:56Speaker 3: That's a weird one because they get cancer from biting
- 1:16:58Speaker 3: each other. They get face cancer.
- 1:17:00Speaker 2: They all have weird I mean, all the Koalas have chlamydia.
- 1:17:04Speaker 3: Do they really?
- 1:17:05Speaker 2: Yeah, it's probably from silas As. They're very cute, they're
- 1:17:08Speaker 2: very what's the uh, it's the dogong of the land.
- 1:17:14Speaker 3: Those Tasmanian devils. They bite each other in the face
- 1:17:17Speaker 3: and they get these horrible face deformities. It's like it's
- 1:17:20Speaker 3: like communicable cancer. It's like cancer that they transfer to
- 1:17:24Speaker 3: each other. It's really weird.
- 1:17:27Speaker 2: Before we got there, I.
- 1:17:28Speaker 3: Don't think it has anything to do with us. I
- 1:17:30Speaker 3: don't think that's I think it has something to do
- 1:17:32Speaker 3: with like whatever the fuck is in their mouth? You know.
- 1:17:35Speaker 3: It could be just all the horrible ship that they eat. Yeah,
- 1:17:39Speaker 3: and then they bite each other and their teeth are
- 1:17:42Speaker 3: probably rotten and disgusting. I don't know, Like, find why
- 1:17:45Speaker 3: do Tasmanian tiger or devils rather give each other cancer?
- 1:17:49Speaker 3: Let's find out what they.
- 1:17:53Speaker 2: And we could let them know what are we going
- 1:17:54Speaker 2: to brush their teeth?
- 1:17:56Speaker 3: Gonna can't do anything unless you can come up with
- 1:17:58Speaker 3: a medication that's oposite from happening, like an antibiotic or something.
- 1:18:02Speaker 3: I just don't understand, like how cancer can be communicable
- 1:18:05Speaker 3: like that, Like you can just transfer it by biting?
- 1:18:09Speaker 3: Seems crazy.
- 1:18:11Speaker 2: Yeah, if you if you got covet in a tumor,
- 1:18:13Speaker 2: you wouldn't get cancer.
- 1:18:14Speaker 3: Would you? Okay? Devil facial tumor disease it's a contagious
- 1:18:18Speaker 3: fatal cancer that primarily affects the face and the mouth
- 1:18:22Speaker 3: area of Tasmanian devils. Disease has significantly impacted the wild population,
- 1:18:27Speaker 3: posing a serious threat to or survival. What is it?
- 1:18:31Speaker 3: DFTD is a transmissible cancer meaning it spreads through the
- 1:18:34Speaker 3: transfer of living cancer cells, primarily via biting.
- 1:18:38Speaker 2: They didn't notice till the nineties. Wow.
- 1:18:40Speaker 3: The tumors usually start as lesions or patches in the
- 1:18:43Speaker 3: mouth and on the facing grow into large, disfiguring masses.
- 1:18:46Speaker 3: The disease is almost universally fatal.
- 1:18:48Speaker 2: Whoa, So we must have done this. But if it's
- 1:18:52Speaker 2: not in the nineties and now they're going extinct because
- 1:18:54Speaker 2: of it.
- 1:18:55Speaker 3: But that does happen with animals sometimes.
- 1:18:57Speaker 2: But that feels like weird timing that they would get
- 1:18:59Speaker 2: in by for a hundred thousand years and then two
- 1:19:01Speaker 2: hundred years after whit he gets to.
- 1:19:03Speaker 3: The But that's it's possible, right, Yeah, Yeah, it's good
- 1:19:08Speaker 3: to be cynical.
- 1:19:09Speaker 2: We about the name a football team after.
- 1:19:10Speaker 3: Them, Crazy Animal. You ever hear the sounds they make? No,
- 1:19:15Speaker 3: let's play that play the sounds of Tasmanian Devil. They
- 1:19:19Speaker 3: sound so cool, like he was my favorite character for
- 1:19:22Speaker 3: sure in the Warner Brothers cartoons, The Tasmanian Devil. It's
- 1:19:25Speaker 3: spin around.
- 1:19:27Speaker 2: It was fine. When I found out it was at university.
- 1:19:31Speaker 2: People kept going like, he's black. Do you know he's black?
- 1:19:33Speaker 3: Bugs? Bunny's black.
- 1:19:34Speaker 2: That's like a big thing that he was a black
- 1:19:35Speaker 2: coded character. He's always like relaxed. Oh and he's got
- 1:19:39Speaker 2: a cool plan that he's working on. He's like a
- 1:19:40Speaker 2: zootsuit guy from the twenties.
- 1:19:43Speaker 3: Yeah, let me hear some of this.
- 1:20:02Speaker 2: Yeah, it look devil was an easy name to pick.
- 1:20:07Speaker 2: No points for the guy who came up with that.
- 1:20:11Speaker 3: I mean, if you called it anything else, I would
- 1:20:13Speaker 3: be disappointed.
- 1:20:14Speaker 2: I may say, have beautiful shying animals. I missed the trees.
- 1:20:19Speaker 2: I got to go through California and the gum trees again.
- 1:20:23Speaker 2: I'd say, gum trees in forever.
- 1:20:24Speaker 3: Look at that.
- 1:20:25Speaker 2: That's so nice.
- 1:20:27Speaker 3: What a ferocious little fucker.
- 1:20:28Speaker 2: Something gets in the blood where it's like, that's what
- 1:20:30Speaker 2: I think an animal should look like.
- 1:20:31Speaker 3: You know what I saw I close recently for the
- 1:20:34Speaker 3: I think maybe the first time a wolverine.
- 1:20:37Speaker 2: Are they real?
- 1:20:38Speaker 3: Yeah? No, the real animal. Yeah, it was at a
- 1:20:41Speaker 3: huge No, it's a badger. It's in the badger family,
- 1:20:45Speaker 3: I think. But I saw one like this nature preserve
- 1:20:48Speaker 3: when I was on the road. It was pretty interesting. Man.
- 1:20:50Speaker 3: You see those little fuckers like they're unbelievably ferocious. They
- 1:20:55Speaker 3: scare bears off of carcasses and they weigh like fifty pounds.
- 1:20:59Speaker 2: But they're at This is the year that I've seen
- 1:21:00Speaker 2: the most animals because I've I've got kids and we
- 1:21:02Speaker 2: travel around and I go. I've been to like eight
- 1:21:04Speaker 2: zoos this year.
- 1:21:05Speaker 3: Oh cool, if it's.
- 1:21:06Speaker 2: A lot of zoos, but there, man. Did you know
- 1:21:09Speaker 2: in New York they had a guy at the zoo.
- 1:21:11Speaker 2: They had a human zoo.
- 1:21:13Speaker 3: What is he'd fighting here? Jamie?
- 1:21:14Speaker 2: Yes, wait, that's the wolverine.
- 1:21:16Speaker 3: Yeah, the wolver If we get the animal.
- 1:21:18Speaker 2: Fight videos, wolver I think he pissed himself while that
- 1:21:21Speaker 2: was happening.
- 1:21:22Speaker 3: Of course, he probably pisses himself all over the bloys
- 1:21:24Speaker 3: just probably make himself more ferocious. Like the wolf gets
- 1:21:29Speaker 3: ahold of them. I've seen mountain lions get ahold of
- 1:21:31Speaker 3: them and they don't kill them. They're like unbelievably durable.
- 1:21:35Speaker 2: You ever watched the Bird and the Fish that goes
- 1:21:37Speaker 2: on for like the burden the fish. It's like a
- 1:21:39Speaker 2: heron trying to get a small fish. And they played
- 1:21:42Speaker 2: in slow motion. They put classical music behind it. Animals
- 1:21:45Speaker 2: trying to get away from it. That's that big.
- 1:21:47Speaker 3: Oh, I've watched a lot of those animals trying to
- 1:21:49Speaker 3: get away.
- 1:21:49Speaker 2: F Yeah, animals, Yeah, running fast across the wilderness. You
- 1:21:52Speaker 2: want them to get away.
- 1:21:53Speaker 3: So you're animals. You have a lot of weirdness going
- 1:21:57Speaker 3: on over there, right, because you have kangaroos. Some times
- 1:22:00Speaker 3: they get like an infestation, right.
- 1:22:02Speaker 2: Yeah. Then they go up in a helicopter and they
- 1:22:03Speaker 2: gun down the cheese kangaroos.
- 1:22:06Speaker 3: They used to kill the kangaroos back in the day.
- 1:22:09Speaker 2: I don't think anything was killing them. So how did
- 1:22:13Speaker 2: they get to see if they might have just been
- 1:22:15Speaker 2: less arable land, maybe they had like less to eight Oh,
- 1:22:19Speaker 2: I assume they would starve. But like, I don't think
- 1:22:21Speaker 2: anything kills the EMUs. We lost a lot of big predators.
- 1:22:25Speaker 3: Uh, the predators are dingoes.
- 1:22:28Speaker 2: But dingos came dingoes I think came from India.
- 1:22:31Speaker 3: Yeah. But here's the thing, man, some kangaroos are like
- 1:22:34Speaker 3: six feet tall. They're fucking huge, but they on.
- 1:22:37Speaker 2: They bother you. There's that one video the guy with
- 1:22:39Speaker 2: the dog.
- 1:22:39Speaker 3: But you know what I'm saying is good luck to
- 1:22:42Speaker 3: the dingo. Yeah, these fuckers get big.
- 1:22:45Speaker 2: Well, they're impactsto dingos are yeah, Oh so I think
- 1:22:48Speaker 2: they're impacts.
- 1:22:49Speaker 3: Well, they probably don'thunt the big males either, right, Look
- 1:22:52Speaker 3: at all.
- 1:22:53Speaker 2: Fuck missus, do you yeah?
- 1:22:56Speaker 3: What do you miss the most?
- 1:22:57Speaker 5: Oh?
- 1:22:58Speaker 2: I missed the football, I missed the.
- 1:23:00Speaker 3: Look at the accent, Look at all these fucking.
- 1:23:03Speaker 2: I remember that. That doesn't usually happen. We don't usually
- 1:23:06Speaker 2: get together and mom like colts. It was during COVID
- 1:23:10Speaker 2: when everyone was inside, there was like kangaroos came back
- 1:23:12Speaker 2: into the town. They were jumping about, So.
- 1:23:15Speaker 3: It was a mob of kangaroos that.
- 1:23:16Speaker 2: Was That does look like a mob. You'll see him.
- 1:23:18Speaker 2: You'll go on like a nature walking. You'll just see
- 1:23:19Speaker 2: a kangaroo in the distance, just looking at you.
- 1:23:22Speaker 3: Jeez.
- 1:23:22Speaker 2: But they're like, you know, they seem friendly and mysterious
- 1:23:25Speaker 2: and then they jump away.
- 1:23:27Speaker 3: So was there like more dingoes all over Australia at
- 1:23:29Speaker 3: one point in time.
- 1:23:30Speaker 2: I think we clamped down at some clamp. There was
- 1:23:34Speaker 2: that lady who lost a baby and she said a
- 1:23:37Speaker 2: dingo got it, and no one believed her. And now
- 1:23:39Speaker 2: they think the dingo maybe got that baby. But also
- 1:23:42Speaker 2: the dingoes are all in there. I've never seen a dingo.
- 1:23:44Speaker 3: Imagine dango eating your baby and nobody believes you. Yeah,
- 1:23:48Speaker 3: isn't that crazy. Not only is it horrible that a
- 1:23:51Speaker 3: dingo eat your baby, but then you alive, you killed
- 1:23:54Speaker 3: your baby, all right.
- 1:23:55Speaker 2: My favorite one is the poet Ted Hughes. He's made
- 1:23:57Speaker 2: to Sylvia Plath. He comes home, she's killed her self
- 1:24:00Speaker 2: in the oven. Very sad for just cald herself in
- 1:24:03Speaker 2: the oven. I don't think he came home. He'd left
- 1:24:04Speaker 2: her by that point for another woman. She gased herself
- 1:24:06Speaker 2: in the oven. Then he the moment. I think it's
- 1:24:09Speaker 2: the woman that he runs away with a couple of
- 1:24:11Speaker 2: years later, she also kills herself in the family oven,
- 1:24:15Speaker 2: his second wife. So like from the outside people in
- 1:24:18Speaker 2: the British literary establishment's not going I think he's killing
- 1:24:21Speaker 2: his wives in the oven. You can't have a second
- 1:24:24Speaker 2: oven suicide. That's that's for me. Why it's the type situation.
- 1:24:29Speaker 3: Well, you could if the second wife obsessed about the
- 1:24:33Speaker 3: death of the first wife.
- 1:24:34Speaker 2: Yes, to the point, boy, you'd be careful with wife
- 1:24:36Speaker 2: number three. You'd say, we're going electric oven.
- 1:24:41Speaker 3: Well, these are ex wives, right.
- 1:24:43Speaker 2: Yeah, once there. I think he was still married to
- 1:24:45Speaker 2: the second one. Oh, okay, he didn't have to leave her,
- 1:24:48Speaker 2: but he so while.
- 1:24:49Speaker 3: They were married. She acts herself like that. Yeah, yeah,
- 1:24:52Speaker 3: well that guy's probably got shitty choice and ladies.
- 1:24:54Speaker 2: He I believe it so cool the second one in
- 1:25:01Speaker 2: the same way.
- 1:25:02Speaker 3: Yeah, that's an issue. You'd be like, this keeps coming up.
- 1:25:05Speaker 2: Maybe I'm doing something wrong.
- 1:25:07Speaker 3: Yeah. Like that's the thing about like the Clinton body count.
- 1:25:10Speaker 3: People go, if fifty one of your friends commit suicide,
- 1:25:13Speaker 3: very like something's going on. That's a that's a giant number.
- 1:25:17Speaker 3: Most people don't have fifty one close associates whack themselves
- 1:25:21Speaker 3: in strange ways.
- 1:25:22Speaker 2: Some people are unlucky.
- 1:25:24Speaker 3: One of one of the guys hung himself from a
- 1:25:26Speaker 3: tree by extension cords and then shot himself in the
- 1:25:31Speaker 3: chest with a shotgun.
- 1:25:33Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's a hard work He was probably a
- 1:25:35Speaker 2: good part of the DNC operation. You didn't want to
- 1:25:39Speaker 2: leave it to chance. Yeah, the mysterious suicide key. It's
- 1:25:42Speaker 2: hard not to get into the I try not to
- 1:25:44Speaker 2: have a conspiratorial mindset because I get unhappy.
- 1:25:47Speaker 3: Well, we already talked about what Israel did. They made
- 1:25:49Speaker 3: the fake phone call.
- 1:25:52Speaker 2: Because it was impressive. I thought it was cool, right,
- 1:25:55Speaker 2: it is cool, But the beepers they came out and
- 1:25:56Speaker 2: they said we did it.
- 1:25:57Speaker 3: Both of them are cool, but it's a conspiracy. They
- 1:26:00Speaker 3: conspired to whack somebody.
- 1:26:01Speaker 2: Conspire.
- 1:26:02Speaker 3: Yeah, and they did it and they pulled it off. Well.
- 1:26:04Speaker 2: They also they were getting like the last Nazis for
- 1:26:09Speaker 2: a while.
- 1:26:09Speaker 3: Oh yeah, hunt them down fifty years later, sixty years later,
- 1:26:14Speaker 3: hunt them down.
- 1:26:16Speaker 2: Yeah, you think they'd managed to clear up amas Quicker.
- 1:26:19Speaker 3: It's one of the weirdest thing you ever see that
- 1:26:20Speaker 3: show Hunting Hitler or Finding Hitler.
- 1:26:23Speaker 2: Nah, Okay, I've seen shows like that on the History Channel.
- 1:26:26Speaker 2: I don't know if I've seen that one with.
- 1:26:27Speaker 3: Jim Kennedy was on it. And they all went down
- 1:26:30Speaker 3: to Argentina and one of the things you find in
- 1:26:33Speaker 3: Argentina is like entire towns where people speak German.
- 1:26:36Speaker 2: Yeah, and so what the Italians too, well yeah right
- 1:26:40Speaker 2: Miss Looney's guys.
- 1:26:41Speaker 3: Yeah, and so they found all these photographs of like
- 1:26:44Speaker 3: SS soldiers and the walls in people's houses, like there's
- 1:26:47Speaker 3: a television show about it.
- 1:26:48Speaker 2: We have a we have a German town in Australia
- 1:26:51Speaker 2: where they say it as a pub with like Nazi
- 1:26:53Speaker 2: stuff on the wolves. I've never seen it, but the
- 1:26:55Speaker 2: Germans there's like there's a Bavarian town where everyone's nice
- 1:26:59Speaker 2: and relaxed in it, and there's like a Prussian town
- 1:27:01Speaker 2: where people but also sometimes you will go around to
- 1:27:04Speaker 2: like a German guy's house, like they've got an old
- 1:27:06Speaker 2: German family, and then you look overrom the mantelpiece and
- 1:27:08Speaker 2: there's that knife there. It's a very special knife. It's
- 1:27:12Speaker 2: like we can't get rid of it. That's Grandpa's knife.
- 1:27:14Speaker 3: The weird thing is like they have full towns down
- 1:27:18Speaker 3: in Argentina that practice Octoberfest. Yeah, they put on the Leederhosen,
- 1:27:22Speaker 3: the whole deal, like it's a German town.
- 1:27:24Speaker 2: I think there's something about the black population disappeared. I
- 1:27:30Speaker 2: don't know if this is I think it might be Argentina.
- 1:27:31Speaker 2: They had like a big black population and then over
- 1:27:34Speaker 2: one hundred years people go, I don't know where they
- 1:27:36Speaker 2: are anymore, but they're not here now. And I think
- 1:27:40Speaker 2: it coincides with that. Maybe it was before the Nazis
- 1:27:42Speaker 2: got there. But that's a weird that's a weird rabbit hole.
- 1:27:45Speaker 2: There's not a lot about it. So many rabbit holes.
- 1:27:48Speaker 2: Some people say like they just integrated and.
- 1:27:50Speaker 3: And what whitened up?
- 1:27:52Speaker 2: Like it's kids after kids, and you can't see it,
- 1:27:54Speaker 2: but like what they had a big black population, then
- 1:27:57Speaker 2: it am I right? I need that one.
- 1:27:59Speaker 3: I don't want to just.
- 1:28:02Speaker 2: But like it disappeared, and.
- 1:28:04Speaker 3: This is Argentina. It could be your black gener side
- 1:28:08Speaker 3: of the true history of the whitening of Argentina.
- 1:28:11Speaker 2: Thank you, travel a ribside. I've never heard of that website,
- 1:28:14Speaker 2: but I assume it's a WHOA.
- 1:28:19Speaker 3: Today, many Argentinas hold the erroneous belief that Argentina neither
- 1:28:23Speaker 3: participated in the slave trade nor witnessed the presence of
- 1:28:27Speaker 3: Afro Argentinians, as if they had left the country naturally.
- 1:28:31Speaker 3: Such misconceptions persist despite historical evidence. Former Argentine President Carlos
- 1:28:38Speaker 3: Menem once shockingly declared in Argentina blacks do not exist.
- 1:28:43Speaker 3: That is a Brazilian problem.
- 1:28:47Speaker 2: No one's bringing that up.
- 1:28:49Speaker 3: WHOA Less than two centuries ago, black individuals compromised over
- 1:28:53Speaker 3: a third of Argentina's population in eighteen hundred.
- 1:28:58Speaker 2: That seems like a question. That seems like someone should
- 1:29:01Speaker 2: find out what happened there.
- 1:29:03Speaker 3: Holy shit, Holy shit, man. The factors beyond behind the disappearance,
- 1:29:14Speaker 3: sudden and profound disappearance of black Africans from Argentina is
- 1:29:17Speaker 3: attributed to a confluence of factors.
- 1:29:21Speaker 2: The eighteen seventies, though first is.
- 1:29:23Speaker 3: The War against Paraguay, spanning from eighteen sixty five to
- 1:29:26Speaker 3: eighteen seventy. Thousands of black individuals fought in the military
- 1:29:29Speaker 3: during these conflicts and other wars, resulting in significant losses.
- 1:29:33Speaker 3: The fatalities led to a considerable gender gap within the
- 1:29:36Speaker 3: African population, prompting unions between black women and white men,
- 1:29:41Speaker 3: which effectively diluted the black populace. In addition, many Afro
- 1:29:46Speaker 3: Argentines sought refuge in more welcoming political climates in neighboring
- 1:29:50Speaker 3: Brazil and Uruguay.
- 1:29:52Speaker 2: You don't lose a third of the population by it,
- 1:29:55Speaker 2: Like that's.
- 1:29:55Speaker 3: Like they're saying, all of them, yeah, Like there's no
- 1:29:58Speaker 3: way these factors would make all all of them go away.
- 1:30:00Speaker 3: Another devastating factor was the outbreak of yellow fever in
- 1:30:03Speaker 3: Buenos Aires in eighteen seventy one, which claimed the lives
- 1:30:06Speaker 3: of numerous locals. But still, wouldn't it be like purpor here?
- 1:30:09Speaker 3: It is, But many sources point to a far darker
- 1:30:12Speaker 3: and more sinister force at work, a covert genocide orchestrated
- 1:30:16Speaker 3: by Domingo Falstino Sarmento, who served as Argentina's president from
- 1:30:21Speaker 3: eighteen sixty eight to eighteen seventy four and played a
- 1:30:24Speaker 3: pivotal role in decimating the Afro Argentine population. Okay, so
- 1:30:30Speaker 3: it is a genocide.
- 1:30:31Speaker 2: Yeah, but this was about one hundred years before. I thought, wow,
- 1:30:37Speaker 2: but then no one, no one's going after Argentina for.
- 1:30:39Speaker 3: These I didn't even know about it.
- 1:30:42Speaker 2: That, like America is a racist country, the ricis history. Shit,
- 1:30:45Speaker 2: why is no one talking about Brazil slavery? Brazil had wait,
- 1:30:49Speaker 2: Brazil was like I think they kept doing it for
- 1:30:52Speaker 2: twenty years as well. They were, it was huge, and
- 1:30:57Speaker 2: then everyone just acts like Brazil is a cool place
- 1:30:59Speaker 2: to go by the beachin relax, maybe ease.
- 1:31:02Speaker 3: Have you ever seen The City of God? No City
- 1:31:05Speaker 3: of God is about the favelas in Brazil in Rio
- 1:31:09Speaker 3: and it is. It makes Eddie Bravo say this that
- 1:31:12Speaker 3: it makes boys in the hood looks like Sesame Street.
- 1:31:15Speaker 3: It really does, Like if you watch that movie, it's
- 1:31:18Speaker 3: so violent and so crazy and apparently when you talk
- 1:31:21Speaker 3: to people from Brazil, particularly from the favelas, yeah, it's
- 1:31:24Speaker 3: actually accurate. Like there were gangs of kids like this,
- 1:31:28Speaker 3: there were like young ten eleven year old kids. They're
- 1:31:29Speaker 3: getting murder every day. They had guns, They're moving drugs
- 1:31:34Speaker 3: and getting money and like young they still have it.
- 1:31:40Speaker 3: It's still an issue. I mean they've done their best
- 1:31:41Speaker 3: to try to like the you know, the soldiers will
- 1:31:44Speaker 3: like do raids into the favelas at times, especially when
- 1:31:49Speaker 3: someone does something crazy.
- 1:31:50Speaker 2: But I always said positive things about slums before. There's
- 1:31:53Speaker 2: negative things to having slims as well. I would just
- 1:31:55Speaker 2: like that be more more housing.
- 1:31:58Speaker 3: Yeah, housing would be good, but good housing would be better,
- 1:32:02Speaker 3: and there's enough money. There's enough money to do that.
- 1:32:05Speaker 3: It's like you just have to we have to prioritize,
- 1:32:08Speaker 3: like what are we spending money on.
- 1:32:09Speaker 2: I mean we shut we shut Australia down for like
- 1:32:12Speaker 2: two years. No one was doing anything.
- 1:32:14Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys want nuts.
- 1:32:15Speaker 2: If you ever lead the world in something bad, that's
- 1:32:18Speaker 2: I think a bad sign once you have the longest lockdown.
- 1:32:21Speaker 3: What is it about Australians as a culture? Yeah, that
- 1:32:26Speaker 3: allowed them to be kind of ordered around, like we
- 1:32:30Speaker 3: love rules. Is that what it does?
- 1:32:32Speaker 2: I think about this a lot because it's i mean
- 1:32:35Speaker 2: like driving in America feels wild and for it like,
- 1:32:38Speaker 2: no one's doing the speed limit. If you do the
- 1:32:40Speaker 2: speed limit on the freeway, it feels way more dangerous
- 1:32:42Speaker 2: than going five over. We have cameras every you can't
- 1:32:46Speaker 2: If you go one two miles over the speed limit
- 1:32:48Speaker 2: in Australia, you get a fine. They've recorded you. You're
- 1:32:50Speaker 2: in and we don't push back. I have no idea
- 1:32:52Speaker 2: why other than because people don't like it overall. People
- 1:32:56Speaker 2: don't want to go through the bureaucracy. But maybe there's
- 1:32:58Speaker 2: no we have no like animating sense of freedom that
- 1:33:02Speaker 2: people should be free. It's like I think if the
- 1:33:05Speaker 2: motto here is don't tread on me, we've got pull
- 1:33:07Speaker 2: your fucking head in. You hear that quite a lot.
- 1:33:10Speaker 2: You pull your head in. What are you fucking doing?
- 1:33:13Speaker 2: Pull your head pull your fucking head in. Like get in,
- 1:33:15Speaker 2: get in line, go with the flow, do what you
- 1:33:17Speaker 2: meant to do. And for a while, I guess we
- 1:33:19Speaker 2: were also prosperous for a long time, and that worked
- 1:33:23Speaker 2: if you just like laid low and you did what
- 1:33:25Speaker 2: you know, You went to school, you went to UNI.
- 1:33:27Speaker 2: The government's going to pay for your UNI. You get
- 1:33:29Speaker 2: a you got a nice job, you get a big,
- 1:33:31Speaker 2: beautiful suburban family home. Don't buck the system. You don't
- 1:33:34Speaker 2: have to do anything crazy. And as that falls apart
- 1:33:37Speaker 2: now which is former a part quickly rents out of
- 1:33:41Speaker 2: control of the inflation is so much worse. It's all,
- 1:33:44Speaker 2: you know. The immigration is like kind it's silly, like
- 1:33:48Speaker 2: we're not building houses in line with that. And so
- 1:33:53Speaker 2: it's like, I don't know, a lot of comics are
- 1:33:55Speaker 2: moving overseas, like in a way that no one moved
- 1:33:58Speaker 2: overseas when I was for the first ten years I
- 1:34:00Speaker 2: was doing comedy. I think a couple guys went to
- 1:34:02Speaker 2: the UK and that was it. And now Aaron Chen's here,
- 1:34:06Speaker 2: like Freeman's here, Amos Gills here.
- 1:34:07Speaker 3: What do you think is the big motivator to what
- 1:34:11Speaker 3: was the biggest thing that was a problem over there?
- 1:34:13Speaker 2: That post COD? I mean COVID was COVID radicalized a
- 1:34:16Speaker 2: lot of people.
- 1:34:17Speaker 3: So what it was just to kind of control they
- 1:34:19Speaker 3: put down on you guys.
- 1:34:20Speaker 2: It was And then the I mean, there's so much opportunity.
- 1:34:25Speaker 2: People keep saying the cost of living's going up in America,
- 1:34:28Speaker 2: and it is, but it's like still, it's wacky that
- 1:34:31Speaker 2: eggs are only three seventy or something that's so cheap
- 1:34:35Speaker 2: for eggs for us?
- 1:34:36Speaker 3: Really? Yeah? How much our eggs over there more substantial? Yeah? Yeah,
- 1:34:42Speaker 3: like how much give me?
- 1:34:43Speaker 5: I don't know.
- 1:34:43Speaker 2: I'm buying free range eggs because my wife insists on it.
- 1:34:47Speaker 2: But still I would I think if you didn't, if
- 1:34:48Speaker 2: you did, like a milk to milk, egg to egg,
- 1:34:51Speaker 2: you dominate. Interesting, America has so far to go before
- 1:34:55Speaker 2: it gets to be a revolutionary. Fourteen a dozen, whoa, oh,
- 1:35:01Speaker 2: fourteen bucks a dozen.
- 1:35:02Speaker 3: You guys pay for eggs, that's great?
- 1:35:04Speaker 2: Oh man, it's if you've got coals. And I mean
- 1:35:06Speaker 2: the dollars. The dollars is a bit different, so.
- 1:35:09Speaker 3: There's less opportunity. Things are more expensive. And also there's
- 1:35:12Speaker 3: I mean, but what about COVID radicalized a lot of people.
- 1:35:15Speaker 2: I've locked in your house for I mean, it's literally
- 1:35:17Speaker 2: in Melbourne. We were in Melbourne when it kicked off,
- 1:35:19Speaker 2: my wife and I and we had a newborn child
- 1:35:22Speaker 2: and she was pregnant with the next one, and they
- 1:35:24Speaker 2: said we're walking everyone down for six weeks. You can't
- 1:35:27Speaker 2: leave your house, and it was we had better not better.
- 1:35:30Speaker 2: We had like strongest state by state regulation, so if
- 1:35:33Speaker 2: you moved back, we were from Adelaide in South Australia.
- 1:35:36Speaker 2: They said it was two weeks if you came from
- 1:35:37Speaker 2: in the state, So we just drove all night and
- 1:35:39Speaker 2: got out, but then watched his people. It's like a
- 1:35:41Speaker 2: three hundred day lockdown. Jesus, you couldn't do it. Was
- 1:35:45Speaker 2: one of the only places you could do shows was
- 1:35:46Speaker 2: in Adelaide. We did have I like Josh Stepps, he
- 1:35:49Speaker 2: seems great. I saw him on here. Took like about
- 1:35:51Speaker 2: the I think you confronted him about the concentration camps
- 1:35:54Speaker 2: and it's like, yeah, we had camps where we concentrated people.
- 1:35:57Speaker 2: I don't know what else you meant to call that. Yeah.
- 1:36:00Speaker 3: Yeah. We had a disagreement too about milecarditis, and it
- 1:36:03Speaker 3: was interesting. It's like you would get all these different
- 1:36:05Speaker 3: Now it's like firmly established as a higher risk of
- 1:36:08Speaker 3: myocarditis for young people that took it, but back then
- 1:36:11Speaker 3: it was really confusing, and I was like, why did
- 1:36:13Speaker 3: I read articles that said it was a higher risk,
- 1:36:15Speaker 3: And then he brought one up that said there was
- 1:36:18Speaker 3: more of a risk getting milcard iis from COVID itself,
- 1:36:21Speaker 3: which really didn't make any sense even in the argument,
- 1:36:23Speaker 3: because back then we didn't know that it not only
- 1:36:26Speaker 3: doesn't protect you from getting the virus, it doesn't even
- 1:36:29Speaker 3: protect you from spreading the virus, so you still get it,
- 1:36:31Speaker 3: so you still have a chance if that's true. But
- 1:36:33Speaker 3: it turns out when I talked to doctor Asim Mahatra,
- 1:36:38Speaker 3: who is he's a part of this whole Maha thing too,
- 1:36:41Speaker 3: and he was another doctor that was initially pro vaccine
- 1:36:44Speaker 3: and eventually just realized there was a bunch of horseshit
- 1:36:48Speaker 3: going on with all of it. He said, they that's
- 1:36:50Speaker 3: not what they measured. They were measuring treponin levels. They
- 1:36:54Speaker 3: were measuring like what happens when you get sick, and
- 1:36:57Speaker 3: that yeah, those levels are higher in viral infection. And
- 1:37:01Speaker 3: he was saying that that's not indicative of what true
- 1:37:04Speaker 3: mildcarditis is, which is an enlargening of the heart and
- 1:37:07Speaker 3: the scarring of the heart tissue. It's like, yeah, it's
- 1:37:09Speaker 3: a different thing they're looking for. They're elevating the number
- 1:37:12Speaker 3: of people that are getting it from COVID by doing
- 1:37:14Speaker 3: it this way.
- 1:37:15Speaker 2: He was saying, Oh, I can see why you like,
- 1:37:19Speaker 2: it's hard to lose trust in the establishment, Like you
- 1:37:22Speaker 2: want to believe that the people running the medical side
- 1:37:25Speaker 2: of things, and who is setting all the rules have
- 1:37:27Speaker 2: your interest at hot and you should listen to.
- 1:37:28Speaker 3: Them, pecially if you're in certain social circles. Right, Yeah,
- 1:37:32Speaker 3: So if you're in certain social circles where people are
- 1:37:34Speaker 3: very pro science and very logical and rational and they
- 1:37:38Speaker 3: are all in agreement of one thing, you don't want
- 1:37:41Speaker 3: to be cast out of that social circle. You don't
- 1:37:42Speaker 3: want to be thought of as being a fool, and
- 1:37:45Speaker 3: so you don't want to have any opinion that's opposing
- 1:37:47Speaker 3: what is this consensus narrative amongst these people.
- 1:37:51Speaker 2: It's also I mean, it's nice to be in that
- 1:37:52Speaker 2: group because you get to you get to live in
- 1:37:54Speaker 2: a world where the government cares about you and they
- 1:37:56Speaker 2: know what they're doing. And this politician and a suit
- 1:37:59Speaker 2: like there was a yeah, but you got to know,
- 1:38:01Speaker 2: the realm for personal expression of politicians was tiny for
- 1:38:03Speaker 2: a long time because it was you, well, you know,
- 1:38:05Speaker 2: that's what you want. Trump splung this up. But I remember,
- 1:38:07Speaker 2: like Howard Dean did a weird scream and his career
- 1:38:11Speaker 2: was that's what it took back in the day to
- 1:38:13Speaker 2: ruin your candidacy. Yeah, how about it is I had
- 1:38:16Speaker 2: to keep that illusion going that like, these are very
- 1:38:18Speaker 2: competent people who will not make a weird noise at
- 1:38:20Speaker 2: the wrong time.
- 1:38:21Speaker 3: For sure. That was all they would need to latch
- 1:38:23Speaker 3: onto and then they would like throw it in everybody's face,
- 1:38:25Speaker 3: would be all over the news and it would be over.
- 1:38:27Speaker 2: Yeah, there was no internet, you know what I mean.
- 1:38:30Speaker 2: Isn't that a nice world?
- 1:38:31Speaker 3: To that world?
- 1:38:33Speaker 2: Like that fifties world of like, ah, you can, We've
- 1:38:35Speaker 2: got a man in a white coat and he knows
- 1:38:38Speaker 2: what's up. You don't have to do all the it's
- 1:38:40Speaker 2: taxing to try and figure out how disease works.
- 1:38:43Speaker 3: Oh it's yeah, it's not fun. It's not fun to
- 1:38:46Speaker 3: not trust anyone and always want to read like hundreds
- 1:38:51Speaker 3: of different articles on any complex subject to try to
- 1:38:54Speaker 3: get an understanding of who's telling the truth who's.
- 1:38:58Speaker 2: And the cost for getting it wrong is you know,
- 1:38:59Speaker 2: like if you get nineteen things right and one thing wrong,
- 1:39:02Speaker 2: they just go, you're a fucking idiot.
- 1:39:04Speaker 3: Yeah, But I think the key is like you have
- 1:39:06Speaker 3: to say why you got it wrong and then express
- 1:39:10Speaker 3: yourself like I get things wrong, but I'll tell you
- 1:39:13Speaker 3: why I got it wrong, and then I won't lie
- 1:39:16Speaker 3: and I'll tell you what I know now. So if
- 1:39:17Speaker 3: I know now that something's different than what I thought,
- 1:39:20Speaker 3: I definitely always say it and I always say I
- 1:39:22Speaker 3: was wrong about this. And this is why, like get
- 1:39:24Speaker 3: it out. You got to get it out because it's important.
- 1:39:27Speaker 3: Like the whole thing is, we're trying to figure out
- 1:39:30Speaker 3: what the fuck is actually going on, and when you're
- 1:39:32Speaker 3: looking at like really complax, like you get into something
- 1:39:35Speaker 3: like the Kennedy assassination. Yeah, which is like one of
- 1:39:38Speaker 3: the big ones in this country because the's a lot
- 1:39:39Speaker 3: of people are like, oh, let it go, let it go,
- 1:39:41Speaker 3: and then there's a lot of other people go no, no, no,
- 1:39:43Speaker 3: no no no no no no no no no no
- 1:39:44Speaker 3: no no no. This shows you how they did it
- 1:39:48Speaker 3: in nineteen sixty three. And they've evolved, and anything that's
- 1:39:51Speaker 3: alive that's still a part of the systems are all
- 1:39:54Speaker 3: still there. Yeah, for sure, they're just way better at
- 1:39:57Speaker 3: doing that. And they've learned how to not use a
- 1:39:59Speaker 3: man bullet and you know, non fucking you know the
- 1:40:02Speaker 3: Grassy Knoll and not kill all the witnesses. You know,
- 1:40:05Speaker 3: they learned how to do stuff.
- 1:40:07Speaker 2: Some of them. They got a lot who is So
- 1:40:08Speaker 2: it's like so Jack Ruby kills. I'm gonna get a
- 1:40:13Speaker 2: lot of this wrong. Lee Harvey Oswald, Jack Canedy kills.
- 1:40:16Speaker 3: We have a photo of it right out there, right
- 1:40:18Speaker 3: when he's shooting.
- 1:40:18Speaker 2: But then when he's under a rist. They're like two
- 1:40:20Speaker 2: journalists who come and interview him, and I think one
- 1:40:23Speaker 2: of them kills him.
- 1:40:25Speaker 3: Jolly West, Jolly West ahead of the UK. Yeah, yeah,
- 1:40:29Speaker 3: Jolly West visits him and he goes insane. He'd never
- 1:40:32Speaker 3: had any history of mental illness, Jolly West. He sees
- 1:40:35Speaker 3: Jews burning in Hell and he's going crazy. He's high
- 1:40:38Speaker 3: because he was a Jewish man, so he thought he
- 1:40:40Speaker 3: was They were coming for him. He's hiding underneath the
- 1:40:42Speaker 3: fucking bench, you screaming. He went completely. They dosed him
- 1:40:46Speaker 3: with acid. Yeah, this is the the MK ultra people.
- 1:40:49Speaker 2: I think a journalist who talked to him before he
- 1:40:52Speaker 2: died got killed by a some sort of gay karate chop.
- 1:40:57Speaker 2: It was like a gay it was like a gay
- 1:40:59Speaker 2: journalist and.
- 1:41:01Speaker 3: Chop him.
- 1:41:02Speaker 2: And I think he took a man home for a
- 1:41:03Speaker 2: sexual encounter and then he was karate chopped to death.
- 1:41:06Speaker 2: I think that's the official explanation.
- 1:41:07Speaker 3: It's a very rare thing to karate chop a man
- 1:41:09Speaker 3: to death. That's a weird choice. Why did they know
- 1:41:14Speaker 3: it was a karate chop unless they have a video.
- 1:41:15Speaker 2: I think that's the medical examiner said.
- 1:41:18Speaker 3: Okay, that medical examiners know what they're talking about. It
- 1:41:21Speaker 3: probably just stomped him.
- 1:41:22Speaker 2: Do you think, well, who's the Manson family? The Manson? Yes,
- 1:41:26Speaker 2: he was dodged with some sort of.
- 1:41:29Speaker 3: And I'm sorry if you've heard this before, ladies and gentlemen,
- 1:41:32Speaker 3: but the book Chaos by Tom O'Neil is amazing, amazing.
- 1:41:37Speaker 3: He's Greg fitzimmons old neighbor. So Greg, who's at the
- 1:41:41Speaker 3: Mothership this weekend, Who's awesome, one of my best friends
- 1:41:43Speaker 3: and I've been friends with. I started doing comedy with
- 1:41:46Speaker 3: him one week apart when we did open.
- 1:41:47Speaker 2: Mike Night does See a Busting guys Will Yes.
- 1:41:49Speaker 3: Known him forever. He's awesome. So he and hilarious comic too.
- 1:41:53Speaker 3: I think it's all sold out. But he was next
- 1:41:56Speaker 3: door to this guy and this guy was a journalist,
- 1:42:00Speaker 3: nice guy. They became friends. He's saying, I'm writing this
- 1:42:02Speaker 3: thing about Manson. It was supposed to be for a magazine.
- 1:42:05Speaker 3: It was supposed to be like twenty fifth anniversary with
- 1:42:08Speaker 3: the Manson family killings. But he starts finding all these inconsistencies,
- 1:42:11Speaker 3: and he keeps going further and further down the rabbit trap,
- 1:42:14Speaker 3: and he thinks the prosecutor's full of shit and there's
- 1:42:16Speaker 3: some sort of a connection to the government. He's like,
- 1:42:18Speaker 3: what the fuck is going on here? So he doesn't
- 1:42:20Speaker 3: meet the deadline, so he keeps going and so then
- 1:42:22Speaker 3: gets a book deal, and it's going on and on
- 1:42:24Speaker 3: and on and on and on for twenty fucking years.
- 1:42:28Speaker 3: For twenty years, this guy studies nothing but the Manson case.
- 1:42:31Speaker 3: He's got stacks and boxes, he's been interviewing people, and
- 1:42:35Speaker 3: then he puts together this book with help. He had
- 1:42:38Speaker 3: to get someone to help him organize it because he
- 1:42:40Speaker 3: was so deep in the weeds. He's got enough for
- 1:42:41Speaker 3: another book. I mean, a pure obsessive, but a brilliant guy.
- 1:42:45Speaker 3: And this book, Chaos. It outlines all of the MK
- 1:42:49Speaker 3: ultra involvement in the Manson family and all the different
- 1:42:53Speaker 3: things that they were doing at the time with the
- 1:42:55Speaker 3: CIA mynd control experiments. So they were running.
- 1:42:57Speaker 2: Brothels, which they did definitely seem that have undred percent Yeah, all.
- 1:43:01Speaker 3: One real lady Dorothy kill Gallen reporter cloaked in controversy
- 1:43:07Speaker 3: to read this okay? Dorothy kill Gallen is best known
- 1:43:10Speaker 3: for a column, The Voice of Broadway in the New
- 1:43:13Speaker 3: York Evening Journal, which was published in over one hundred
- 1:43:16Speaker 3: and forty papers, and for her role as the game
- 1:43:19Speaker 3: show panelist the nineteen fifties television program What's My Line.
- 1:43:22Speaker 3: She was hailed by The Post as being the most
- 1:43:24Speaker 3: powerful female voice in America. Kill Gallan spent a vast
- 1:43:28Speaker 3: majority of her career cloaked in controversy, most notably surrounding
- 1:43:31Speaker 3: her investigative work into the John F. Kennedy assassination. As
- 1:43:36Speaker 3: a longtime skeptic of the Warrant Commission, a study conducted
- 1:43:38Speaker 3: by the United States government into who killed JFK? As
- 1:43:41Speaker 3: well as who killed Leehavey? Won't we know? Who killed?
- 1:43:44Speaker 3: Leejavey Oswald JFK supposed assassin. Kill Gallen dove deep into
- 1:43:48Speaker 3: the controversy, some may even argue too deep. Kill Gallen
- 1:43:51Speaker 3: was under suspicion that Oswald did not commit his crimes alone,
- 1:43:55Speaker 3: and published several articles reflecting this belief. Jack Ruby, who
- 1:43:59Speaker 3: allegedly killed Lee Oswald on November twenty fourth, nineteen sixty
- 1:44:02Speaker 3: three was only interviewed by one reporter throughout the trial,
- 1:44:05Speaker 3: Dorothy Killed Gallen. Since her interview with Ruby, many noted
- 1:44:09Speaker 3: that kill Gallen carried a file with her at all times.
- 1:44:13Speaker 3: It remained under lock and key when not physically in
- 1:44:16Speaker 3: her hands, According to those close to her, kill Gallan's
- 1:44:19Speaker 3: file continued to grow throughout the investigation. In a conversation
- 1:44:24Speaker 3: with her lawyer Jim Garrison prior to that's the guy
- 1:44:27Speaker 3: who prosecuted That was in the movie. Kevin Costner played
- 1:44:33Speaker 3: him in the JFK movie. Prior to a trip to
- 1:44:39Speaker 3: New Orleans with Dorothy later inexplicably canceled, he remembers her saying,
- 1:44:44Speaker 3: I'm going to break the real story and have the
- 1:44:47Speaker 3: biggest scoop of the century. Kill Gallan's first trip to
- 1:44:49Speaker 3: New Orleans was planned two weeks prior to her death,
- 1:44:51Speaker 3: when her husband, Richard Colmar, found her with files missing
- 1:44:56Speaker 3: by her hairdresser in a bedroom she never slept in,
- 1:44:59Speaker 3: dressed she would never wear, to bed, reading a book
- 1:45:02Speaker 3: she had finished, and disliked wearing glasses she didn't need
- 1:45:06Speaker 3: for reading. The initial autopsy report of Brooklyn Medical Office
- 1:45:09Speaker 3: as opposed to the office in Manhattan, where she lived,
- 1:45:13Speaker 3: found her cause of death to be a lethal combination
- 1:45:15Speaker 3: of alcohol and barbituates. The report later amended to note
- 1:45:19Speaker 3: that the barbituate originally found second all, a sleeping pill
- 1:45:23Speaker 3: for which she had been prescribed, was in fact a
- 1:45:26Speaker 3: combination of two tweet tu in all and nembootah, which
- 1:45:31Speaker 3: she did not have access to. Although her death was
- 1:45:34Speaker 3: eventually ruled a suicide, kill Gallen's husband noted that when
- 1:45:37Speaker 3: she returned from a taping of What's My Line early
- 1:45:40Speaker 3: that evening, she appeared chipper.
- 1:45:43Speaker 2: Well, a lot of people do seem chipp before they
- 1:45:45Speaker 2: got they decided.
- 1:45:47Speaker 3: Yeah. A researcher by the name of Mark Shaw investigated
- 1:45:50Speaker 3: kill Gawen's death found that she was under surveillance by
- 1:45:52Speaker 3: the FBI through the Freedom of Information Act. Friends of
- 1:45:56Speaker 3: kill Gallan recall her expressing fear for her life leading
- 1:45:59Speaker 3: up to her death, and she supposedly even purchased a gun,
- 1:46:03Speaker 3: a rather uncharacteristic thing. Further, Yeah, they whacked her, Yeah,
- 1:46:06Speaker 3: they whacked her.
- 1:46:07Speaker 2: Yeah, They've got a finished release.
- 1:46:09Speaker 3: In a recent release of the JFK files on October
- 1:46:12Speaker 3: twenty six, twenty seventeen, a file entitled entitled Dorothy Kilgallon
- 1:46:17Speaker 3: by Richard Nixon was released, but its contents remained sealed
- 1:46:21Speaker 3: due to reasons of national security.
- 1:46:25Speaker 2: They whacked her, Yeah, that was there a gay karate
- 1:46:29Speaker 2: choppout and I make that up.
- 1:46:30Speaker 5: I didn't see that.
- 1:46:33Speaker 3: They whacked her. They whacked her.
- 1:46:34Speaker 2: It seems likely.
- 1:46:35Speaker 3: Yeah, she was digging into the investigation. Look, you know
- 1:46:42Speaker 3: when you talk to like, I talked to Oliver Stone
- 1:46:43Speaker 3: about it multiple times, and Oliverstone, despite his advanced age,
- 1:46:48Speaker 3: is still brilliant, and his recall is incredible. His recall
- 1:46:52Speaker 3: in the assassination. He's obsessed with that assassination. So he
- 1:46:56Speaker 3: can tell you, like who was involved and who did this?
- 1:46:58Speaker 3: And Alan Dallas and this and that Warren Comission report,
- 1:47:01Speaker 3: and then it goes back. The rabbit hole just goes
- 1:47:03Speaker 3: so deep. It goes all the way. It goes all
- 1:47:07Speaker 3: the way to Richard Nixon, because it goes all the
- 1:47:09Speaker 3: way to Gerald Ford, who was on the Warren Commission's report.
- 1:47:12Speaker 3: And when they kicked Spiro Agnew out, they got Spirou
- 1:47:15Speaker 3: Agnew on you know, corruption, It kicked him out. They
- 1:47:19Speaker 3: put in Gerald Ford, and then they kicked Richard Nixon
- 1:47:22Speaker 3: out with the Watergate thing, which I always thought was
- 1:47:26Speaker 3: Richard Nixon got caught being a crook. But that's no,
- 1:47:30Speaker 3: he was not a crook. An intelligence agency plot. The
- 1:47:33Speaker 3: whole thing was Tucker Carlson lays it out.
- 1:47:36Speaker 2: Yeah, this Nixon reputation is starting to come back.
- 1:47:40Speaker 3: Well, you know, Nixon, there's a lot of stuff that
- 1:47:44Speaker 3: he did. It's not good. Jim Cothie wrote, decided to
- 1:47:48Speaker 3: write a book about the assassination of John F. Kennedy. However,
- 1:47:50Speaker 3: he died on the twenty first September nineteen sixty four.
- 1:47:53Speaker 3: And see that a man broke into his Dallas apartment
- 1:47:55Speaker 3: and killed him by a karate chop to the throat.
- 1:47:58Speaker 2: That could happen to anybody. That's a real thing that
- 1:48:01Speaker 2: happens over the time.
- 1:48:02Speaker 3: This this is the thing, like, how do they know
- 1:48:04Speaker 3: they didn't just strangle him to the throat, Like if
- 1:48:06Speaker 3: you have damage to your throat, if you don't see
- 1:48:09Speaker 3: the guy karate chopping.
- 1:48:10Speaker 2: Them, Well, it does seem like a weird flourish for
- 1:48:11Speaker 2: the sacred police to put it.
- 1:48:13Speaker 3: But that's like one of those things that you would say, Kathy,
- 1:48:16Speaker 3: just it seemed like a man broke in his apartment.
- 1:48:18Speaker 3: That Tom Howard, Tom Howard died of a heart attack
- 1:48:21Speaker 3: aged forty eight, nineteen sixty five. Who's Tom Howard? Oh?
- 1:48:26Speaker 3: Oh his attorney. Okay, okay, and they both died. They
- 1:48:34Speaker 3: definitely heart attack. They definitely could give you a heart attack.
- 1:48:39Speaker 2: The karate ate held ate. That's the one detail that
- 1:48:44Speaker 2: really staged.
- 1:48:45Speaker 3: Oh you sure, you can't tell. I've seen so many
- 1:48:47Speaker 3: guys get beat up and you can never tell what
- 1:48:50Speaker 3: hit them.
- 1:48:50Speaker 2: It could have been a very long bruise across the
- 1:48:53Speaker 2: big forearm, shin, shin to the neck. Easy people went.
- 1:48:58Speaker 2: People didn't have that sort of kicking it bill. Sure
- 1:49:00Speaker 2: they in the West at that time.
- 1:49:01Speaker 3: Sure some people did. Yeah, there was people that trained
- 1:49:04Speaker 3: like an assassin. If you were going to be assassin,
- 1:49:06Speaker 3: you would learn Muay Thai. Yeah, there was like legit,
- 1:49:08Speaker 3: muy tiger does have a knife. Yeah. But if I
- 1:49:11Speaker 3: wanted to make it look like it was like a
- 1:49:14Speaker 3: it was.
- 1:49:14Speaker 2: A bachelor flat. Is that why I thought it was
- 1:49:16Speaker 2: some sort of.
- 1:49:18Speaker 3: A cause of exphyxiation from a broken bone at the
- 1:49:21Speaker 3: base of his neck, apparently the result of a karate chop.
- 1:49:25Speaker 3: You know, I'm suspicious. I think they probably thought of
- 1:49:28Speaker 3: it as a karate chop because this is how people
- 1:49:30Speaker 3: thought back then. But I would imagine that was like
- 1:49:32Speaker 3: a baton on the neck where you choke, you got it.
- 1:49:34Speaker 2: There was a time, I know in Austin powers karate
- 1:49:36Speaker 2: chop is like a cool thing. At least sixties people
- 1:49:38Speaker 2: just went ahead of about karate.
- 1:49:39Speaker 5: I think I was accidentally shot by the police a
- 1:49:42Speaker 5: few hours before.
- 1:49:42Speaker 2: That can happen.
- 1:49:44Speaker 3: That can happened, Jesus christ Man. When you read stories
- 1:49:49Speaker 3: like this, like if you're not a conspiracy theorist, you're like.
- 1:49:52Speaker 2: It was the karate chop that made me think it
- 1:49:54Speaker 2: was something had gone wrong. Karate CHOP's the only thing
- 1:49:58Speaker 2: that drew me in. I was happily signed up with
- 1:50:00Speaker 2: the rest of the official narrative.
- 1:50:01Speaker 3: Dude, I've seen a lot of guys get car shopped in.
- 1:50:03Speaker 2: There narrow five.
- 1:50:05Speaker 3: None of them died. My dad is like, a big
- 1:50:08Speaker 3: that's not what breaks your neck.
- 1:50:09Speaker 2: My dad really like, he really believes the jfk assassination
- 1:50:12Speaker 2: happened the way they said it to. And he went
- 1:50:14Speaker 2: to he had a whole trip of it to Dallas,
- 1:50:16Speaker 2: and he went up to the building. He was like,
- 1:50:18Speaker 2: he could have done it. He could have done it
- 1:50:19Speaker 2: from you. Well, here's that's so, I've never really dug
- 1:50:22Speaker 2: into it.
- 1:50:22Speaker 3: Well here's the thing. He could have shot JFK in
- 1:50:25Speaker 3: the head from the book depository. Yeah, anybody says any
- 1:50:29Speaker 3: different has never shot a rifle. It wasn't that far.
- 1:50:32Speaker 3: It was I think it was one hundred and forty yards.
- 1:50:34Speaker 3: If you have a scope and you have an accurate rifle,
- 1:50:36Speaker 3: one hundred and forty yards is not a long shot.
- 1:50:39Speaker 3: And if you have practiced and you know how it's
- 1:50:43Speaker 3: going to go down, and you're prepared, you're going to
- 1:50:45Speaker 3: know exactly where he's going to be. You're going to
- 1:50:47Speaker 3: have the crossair on him, you pull the trigger, you
- 1:50:49Speaker 3: hit him in the head, and you might be able
- 1:50:51Speaker 3: to get off a couple of shots. And some people
- 1:50:53Speaker 3: have been able to recreate the three shots and they
- 1:50:56Speaker 3: think that he got off three shots, and that's impossible.
- 1:51:00Speaker 2: Created.
- 1:51:00Speaker 3: Yeah, people have done it.
- 1:51:01Speaker 2: They closed down Central jealousy.
- 1:51:03Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no, no no. They shot off
- 1:51:05Speaker 3: three rounds from a car Kano rifle in that same
- 1:51:08Speaker 3: period of time. They didn't do it there, but they
- 1:51:11Speaker 3: did it. It showed Look, you can shoot three times
- 1:51:14Speaker 3: in the amount of time that it took.
- 1:51:15Speaker 2: Him to drive. But this is the problem with any
- 1:51:16Speaker 2: conspiracy theories that like, well, you got to look at
- 1:51:19Speaker 2: it all of it. There are a bunch of things
- 1:51:20Speaker 2: that don't. Yeah, there are like a thousand conspiracy theories
- 1:51:23Speaker 2: about JFK. Yet some of them and then some of
- 1:51:27Speaker 2: them hold up.
- 1:51:28Speaker 3: It was My point though, is that that is undeniable.
- 1:51:31Speaker 3: But it's also undeniable. There was a lot of people
- 1:51:33Speaker 3: that reported that they hurt gunshots from the Grassy Knoll. Yeah,
- 1:51:36Speaker 3: there's also the whole magic bullet theory, which is total horseshit.
- 1:51:40Speaker 3: That's the most horseshit theory that's ever been promoted.
- 1:51:43Speaker 2: There was like an eye bullet that dissolved inside.
- 1:51:45Speaker 3: Of no do you know in the magic bulle they
- 1:51:47Speaker 3: one bullet cost a whole ton of injuries. Now this
- 1:51:51Speaker 3: is what they had to do. Okay, there was a
- 1:51:53Speaker 3: guy that got shot in the underpass. Yes, so there
- 1:51:56Speaker 3: was an underpass and a ricochet hit the granite the
- 1:52:00Speaker 3: curbstone and he got hit in the head. So he
- 1:52:02Speaker 3: got fucked up and he had to go to the hospital.
- 1:52:05Speaker 3: And then they found the impact and they found the bullet,
- 1:52:07Speaker 3: so they knew that this accounted for one of the shots. Ye,
- 1:52:10Speaker 3: it missed, So then they had account for two different
- 1:52:14Speaker 3: entry holes on Kennedy and entry hole in Connolly. So
- 1:52:22Speaker 3: Connolly was shot in the wrist, so in the thigh
- 1:52:25Speaker 3: as well, So it had you had to say that
- 1:52:27Speaker 3: one bullet did all this damage in both people, and
- 1:52:31Speaker 3: then there was the head shot because you have the
- 1:52:33Speaker 3: third bullet. So they had came up with one wacky theory.
- 1:52:37Speaker 3: And they found this bullet in pristine condition on the
- 1:52:40Speaker 3: gurney in when they went to visit in the hospital.
- 1:52:45Speaker 3: So why when they had JFK's gurney in the hospital
- 1:52:48Speaker 3: they magically found this pristine bullet.
- 1:52:52Speaker 2: This is like when the passports full out of the
- 1:52:54Speaker 2: plane on nine to eleven.
- 1:52:55Speaker 3: Yeah, almost as ridiculous. But this one is so ridiculous
- 1:52:59Speaker 3: because you have the physical evidence of the bullet, which
- 1:53:01Speaker 3: is impossible. It's impossible for a bullet to shatter bone,
- 1:53:06Speaker 3: go through two different people, leave more residue, like more
- 1:53:09Speaker 3: bullet fragments were in Culinary's Connolly's wrist than we're missing
- 1:53:14Speaker 3: that bullet. That bullet supposedly went through two different people,
- 1:53:18Speaker 3: shattered bone.
- 1:53:19Speaker 2: On bolt them and that's a special bullet as.
- 1:53:23Speaker 3: A person who's shot guns before. That's horseshit. That's not
- 1:53:27Speaker 3: what happens when a bullet hits bone. So it's supposed
- 1:53:30Speaker 3: to have gone through his back his tie hole. Yeah,
- 1:53:36Speaker 3: like right where his thy nod is, goes into Connolly's
- 1:53:39Speaker 3: wrist and then goes into his thigh, shatters his wrist,
- 1:53:43Speaker 3: leaves fragments in his wrist, the wound left in the thigh,
- 1:53:47Speaker 3: and then they find this magical, perfect bullet, pristine condition
- 1:53:52Speaker 3: on the gurney in the hospital. Was it Connolly's gurney
- 1:53:59Speaker 3: that they found it or or JF case. I might
- 1:54:02Speaker 3: might have got it wrong. I might have been Connoway's
- 1:54:04Speaker 3: gurney that they found the bullet on. But either way,
- 1:54:07Speaker 3: listen to me, shut the fuck up.
- 1:54:09Speaker 2: No, look, I usually stop at this point because I
- 1:54:11Speaker 2: want it to happen.
- 1:54:12Speaker 3: Anybody who said that's what happened, shut the fuck up.
- 1:54:15Speaker 3: And then there's also the problem of the bullet hole
- 1:54:18Speaker 3: in his neck. Now they're trying to attribute that as
- 1:54:21Speaker 3: an exit wound, but the thing is in the there's
- 1:54:26Speaker 3: two different autopsies, the autopsy from Dallas and then there
- 1:54:31Speaker 3: was the autopsy from Bethesda, Maryland, and the discrepancy was
- 1:54:34Speaker 3: the one in Bethesda, Maryland. I believe called it a
- 1:54:37Speaker 3: tracheotomy scar or tracheotomy cut, so like they opened him
- 1:54:41Speaker 3: up to put a trake in. The only reason why
- 1:54:42Speaker 3: they would do that is they don't want to attribute
- 1:54:44Speaker 3: that to a bullet that hit him in the front
- 1:54:45Speaker 3: of the neck. I think there was a bunch of
- 1:54:48Speaker 3: different people that were trying to figure out, how do
- 1:54:51Speaker 3: we make it so that it was only this one guy,
- 1:54:54Speaker 3: Lee Harvey Oswald might have bullet trigger. He might have
- 1:54:57Speaker 3: been part of it.
- 1:54:57Speaker 2: He does kill the policeman light.
- 1:55:00Speaker 3: I believe, so, I believe they most people believe he
- 1:55:03Speaker 3: did that. Yeah, yeah, and well he he already knew
- 1:55:05Speaker 3: that he was on the run at that point in time, right,
- 1:55:07Speaker 3: and then when he gets arrested, he says, I'm a patsy.
- 1:55:10Speaker 3: I'm a patsy. Okay, maybe maybe maybe he was involved,
- 1:55:14Speaker 3: Maybe he didn't pull the trigger. Maybe somebody else who
- 1:55:16Speaker 3: was a real expert marksman, because if you if you
- 1:55:18Speaker 3: he wasn't that good, like people say he wasn't a
- 1:55:21Speaker 3: good marksman, but let me tell you.
- 1:55:23Speaker 2: Something that had been He was like damn grinded to
- 1:55:25Speaker 2: my Hey.
- 1:55:26Speaker 3: Yeah, but here's the thing, about shooting rifles. All right,
- 1:55:29Speaker 3: when you're talking about like five hundred yards, you're talking
- 1:55:32Speaker 3: about really long shots where you're required to be prone
- 1:55:35Speaker 3: and lay perfectly still. Yeah, yes, I would say you
- 1:55:38Speaker 3: really want to be an elite marksman to do that.
- 1:55:41Speaker 3: And there's a lot of technique involved in training, and
- 1:55:43Speaker 3: they're very meticulous about their preparation, their breath work, and
- 1:55:46Speaker 3: it's like a very intense thing because you can't move
- 1:55:49Speaker 3: at all. You have to be like so precise. But
- 1:55:51Speaker 3: one hundred and forty yards not far. It's not that far.
- 1:55:54Speaker 2: That's like with the Trump thing, they said a child
- 1:55:55Speaker 2: could have done it, when.
- 1:55:58Speaker 3: If he had a scope, that kid could have a scope. See,
- 1:56:00Speaker 3: the Trump thing was fucked because that guy was using
- 1:56:02Speaker 3: iron sights. So iron sights are that's it's like standard,
- 1:56:06Speaker 3: they don't you can adjust them slightly, but like towards
- 1:56:09Speaker 3: your side, the closer to the shooter. There are two
- 1:56:12Speaker 3: posts and at the end there's one post and the
- 1:56:15Speaker 3: the the like the scoop from the upper post, it
- 1:56:18Speaker 3: lines in he did have a scope. Oh so why
- 1:56:24Speaker 3: did they say that he didn't? Forever But there was
- 1:56:28Speaker 3: a photograph of it.
- 1:56:29Speaker 5: So this photo down the corner and with my cursor
- 1:56:31Speaker 5: doesn't have a scope.
- 1:56:32Speaker 3: Right, Okay, but here's the thing. I'm pretty sure there
- 1:56:37Speaker 3: was a photograph of it laying on the roof and
- 1:56:40Speaker 3: it didn't have a scope. And this is why, and
- 1:56:43Speaker 3: this is not my theory. This is all the people
- 1:56:45Speaker 3: that I know that are in like the tactical world
- 1:56:47Speaker 3: that have talked to me about this. They were saying
- 1:56:49Speaker 3: that he had iron sights. See if you can find
- 1:56:51Speaker 3: it if they show a photo of the actual rifle.
- 1:56:57Speaker 2: And then there's just nothing about this that's come out
- 1:56:59Speaker 2: since then.
- 1:57:00Speaker 3: So if he had, if he had a scope, that's
- 1:57:01Speaker 3: even crazier that he missed because that's a chip shot.
- 1:57:06Speaker 3: It's not a hard shot. It's you're one hundred and
- 1:57:08Speaker 3: forty yards. You have an accurate rifle. So let's see
- 1:57:14Speaker 3: scoom bit on. That kind of does look like he
- 1:57:16Speaker 3: has a scope. Go back to that again.
- 1:57:21Speaker 5: A lot of these pictures from the just talking of
- 1:57:23Speaker 5: it though, or using a picture of a gun without
- 1:57:25Speaker 5: a scope to confuse people.
- 1:57:27Speaker 3: So interesting. Okay, so it's hard to tell. But go
- 1:57:31Speaker 3: to the top one again and make that larger. No,
- 1:57:34Speaker 3: the one that's in the right hand side. Yeah, Okay, Okay,
- 1:57:38Speaker 3: that looks a little bit like a scope to me.
- 1:57:40Speaker 3: There's something above the barrel at the middle point of
- 1:57:43Speaker 3: the gun. It doesn't look flat. It looks like there
- 1:57:46Speaker 3: might be a scope. Okay, which is even crazier that
- 1:57:49Speaker 3: he missed then, because this guy is shooting from a
- 1:57:52Speaker 3: very close distance. But he probably fucking panicked. He's a
- 1:57:54Speaker 3: twenty year.
- 1:57:55Speaker 2: Old, so he turns his head just at the right
- 1:57:57Speaker 2: miraculous hit.
- 1:57:58Speaker 3: Yeah, But the thing is, that's not an expert marksman.
- 1:58:01Speaker 3: He did train a lot though. That was the other thing. Like,
- 1:58:03Speaker 3: there's a lot of people that trained in firearms with
- 1:58:06Speaker 3: that kid, so they knew that someone either told him
- 1:58:09Speaker 3: to do that or he was preparing by himself to
- 1:58:12Speaker 3: do that.
- 1:58:12Speaker 2: Why has nothing come out of it?
- 1:58:13Speaker 3: It bro you would think, because I think that mk
- 1:58:17Speaker 3: ultrashit keeps going. I think that it's like that Aerosmith song.
- 1:58:20Speaker 3: Train kept rolling, Oh not long. I think it just
- 1:58:24Speaker 3: keeps going. I don't think they stopped. I think someone,
- 1:58:27Speaker 3: whether it's our government or another government or some giant
- 1:58:32Speaker 3: business interest, someone probably talked that kid into doing that,
- 1:58:37Speaker 3: gave him the resources. He had five different phones, his entirety,
- 1:58:41Speaker 3: his entire home was professionally scrubbed. There was no silverware
- 1:58:45Speaker 3: in his home when they searched his home.
- 1:58:47Speaker 2: I mean, it's weird that there wasn't more. I know,
- 1:58:50Speaker 2: there was like a guy at the golf course, and
- 1:58:51Speaker 2: it was like a third guy maybe, but the temperature
- 1:58:55Speaker 2: in the country at that time was no one was
- 1:58:58Speaker 2: like actively coming out and bag the damns. Weren't coming
- 1:59:01Speaker 2: out and saying someone's got to kill this guy, but
- 1:59:03Speaker 2: they were going this is an insane Might not.
- 1:59:06Speaker 3: Just be the Dems switch. You have to understand it's
- 1:59:09Speaker 3: probably business interests. If you're in another country, okay, and
- 1:59:15Speaker 3: this guy's actively campaigning saying that he's gonna raise tariffs
- 1:59:19Speaker 3: and he's gonna call you. We're gonna make China pay,
- 1:59:21Speaker 3: We're gonna make Russia pay, everyone's gonna pay. If you're
- 1:59:26Speaker 3: in some you know, military controlled country that's gonna lose
- 1:59:30Speaker 3: trillions of dollars because this guy's gonna make everybody pay. Yeah,
- 1:59:34Speaker 3: you might hire someone to do something.
- 1:59:36Speaker 2: Well, this is why he goes vance immediately out. This
- 1:59:38Speaker 2: is why I put together the theory. Someone else must
- 1:59:42Speaker 2: have done it, but you pick someone who seems scarier
- 1:59:45Speaker 2: than you, right, you go, well, if you kill me,
- 1:59:47Speaker 2: you get him.
- 1:59:48Speaker 3: You think Vance is scary.
- 1:59:49Speaker 2: I think at the time he seemed like the furthest
- 1:59:53Speaker 2: right protectionist candidate that Trump could have picked from on
- 1:59:57Speaker 2: the VP least.
- 1:59:58Speaker 3: I don't think he really is, though, I don't know
- 2:00:00Speaker 3: what he is. He's pretty reasonable when you have a
- 2:00:02Speaker 3: real conversation with him. He's definitely conservative. He's pretty reasonable,
- 2:00:06Speaker 3: but he's also like a no nonsense, no bullshit guy
- 2:00:09Speaker 3: who is not He doesn't lack in compassion.
- 2:00:13Speaker 2: But he was the like he was not the easiest.
- 2:00:16Speaker 3: He was young.
- 2:00:17Speaker 2: Electorally, there were other people he could have gone with
- 2:00:19Speaker 2: would have been young.
- 2:00:20Speaker 3: He's very religious. You know, there's a lot of aspects
- 2:00:23Speaker 3: of that that make people uncomfortable. The young one is
- 2:00:25Speaker 3: pretty big, you know, along like some young guy being
- 2:00:29Speaker 3: the fucking president of the world.
- 2:00:30Speaker 2: When was the last time it was like Teddy Roosevelt.
- 2:00:33Speaker 2: Kennedy was what he was like late forties, but he's
- 2:00:37Speaker 2: around a long time.
- 2:00:40Speaker 3: He was handsome, and heah pretty young. He didn't look
- 2:00:43Speaker 3: like an old leader. He didn't look like Eisenhower, you
- 2:00:46Speaker 3: know what I mean. Yeah, he didn't look like Ronald Reagan.
- 2:00:49Speaker 2: But he was the war, and that added like when
- 2:00:52Speaker 2: you got to have you been to the Fredericksburg Pacific
- 2:00:55Speaker 2: War Museum. No, it's great, it's a two hour drive,
- 2:00:58Speaker 2: it's tremendous. But like they they have a mural at
- 2:01:01Speaker 2: back for all the presidents since that war. And everyone's
- 2:01:05Speaker 2: in World War Two, Like that's the It's not that
- 2:01:07Speaker 2: America is looking for an old guy. It's like who
- 2:01:10Speaker 2: it's everyone is somehow until like Clinton, everyone is a
- 2:01:15Speaker 2: World War two event.
- 2:01:16Speaker 3: You got to think back then, everybody signed up for
- 2:01:19Speaker 3: the war.
- 2:01:20Speaker 2: Yeah, Like but generationally America didn't want to move on
- 2:01:23Speaker 2: from the World War Two guys. That was like a
- 2:01:25Speaker 2: comforting right what it was?
- 2:01:27Speaker 3: Also, World War Two was the last just war in
- 2:01:31Speaker 3: their eyes, like we had to defeat the Nazis. Yeah,
- 2:01:34Speaker 3: we had to stop the takeover of evil in the world.
- 2:01:37Speaker 3: And then you got to the Vietnam War and it's like, wait,
- 2:01:40Speaker 3: what's going on here?
- 2:01:41Speaker 2: This is not Korea, seems more Korea.
- 2:01:45Speaker 3: Well, there's a lot of people that would disagree with you,
- 2:01:49Speaker 3: you know, but Korea is also you know, there's North
- 2:01:51Speaker 3: Korea's fighting South Korea, North Korea's communists, but.
- 2:01:54Speaker 2: It doesn't have the same light Korea doesn't occupy the same.
- 2:01:56Speaker 3: No, it doesn't have the same spot in people's heads.
- 2:01:59Speaker 2: And then really, it's not one war that everyone's getting
- 2:02:02Speaker 2: behind after that.
- 2:02:03Speaker 3: No, no, there's not one. And you know, most people
- 2:02:08Speaker 3: are reeled down on a war right now for for
- 2:02:10Speaker 3: good reasons.
- 2:02:11Speaker 2: You know.
- 2:02:13Speaker 3: It's like, are we fucking for real still doing this?
- 2:02:16Speaker 3: You know, And this was one of the things that
- 2:02:19Speaker 3: Trump campaigned on. It's no more wars, yeah, And that
- 2:02:22Speaker 3: scares the shit out of people, you know, because then
- 2:02:24Speaker 3: right away we're involved in this Imran thing.
- 2:02:26Speaker 2: Like but you know, I'm so easily taken in there,
- 2:02:32Speaker 2: like I was. I was terrified. I was like, oh,
- 2:02:34Speaker 2: I don't want to be a war.
- 2:02:35Speaker 3: This is terrible.
- 2:02:36Speaker 2: And then as soon as the bombs are dropped and
- 2:02:38Speaker 2: Trump comes out and he goes, we're very strong, I'm like, ooh, yeah,
- 2:02:42Speaker 2: it's so easy to get whipped up into a fervor.
- 2:02:44Speaker 3: There's there's some truth to that, right, And there's some
- 2:02:46Speaker 3: truth too. Maybe it wouldn't be the best thing in
- 2:02:48Speaker 3: the world if they developed a nuclear program and ad
- 2:02:51Speaker 3: nuclear weapons and use them on Israel. But then you know,
- 2:02:54Speaker 3: you say, well, were they really close to doing that? Well,
- 2:02:57Speaker 3: then you find out that net Yao has been saying
- 2:03:00Speaker 3: been close to doing.
- 2:03:00Speaker 2: That for like fifteen years, and Tulsi's saying they have
- 2:03:03Speaker 2: no information on it.
- 2:03:05Speaker 3: Yeah, but the thing is like, what do we know?
- 2:03:07Speaker 3: You know, if they don't let inspectors in, what do
- 2:03:09Speaker 3: we know? Yeah, you know, it would be I have
- 2:03:12Speaker 3: to see both sides.
- 2:03:14Speaker 2: To pull together over something. I found. Someone sent me
- 2:03:16Speaker 2: the like that Reagan towards the end of his term
- 2:03:19Speaker 2: just kept giving speeches about how he wanted there to
- 2:03:21Speaker 2: be an alien invasion. Yes, and he said, if only
- 2:03:25Speaker 2: there was some alien force, that we could all get
- 2:03:27Speaker 2: together again against the aliens. Yeah, but it is that
- 2:03:30Speaker 2: seems like America is ready for that some coming together.
- 2:03:34Speaker 2: I can see that if you were in charge, you
- 2:03:35Speaker 2: wanted to have civil unity, you would want there to
- 2:03:38Speaker 2: be something like a war. Well, pull people back together.
- 2:03:40Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of value and in having
- 2:03:43Speaker 3: no civil unity. I think there's a lot of value
- 2:03:46Speaker 3: in keeping us at each other's throats. This is what
- 2:03:49Speaker 3: I always trying to tell people. Most of us are
- 2:03:50Speaker 3: in the middle most. Most of us, especially after you
- 2:03:54Speaker 3: get to a certain age, you realize a lot of
- 2:03:56Speaker 3: fucking things that people do it's because you know, they're
- 2:04:00Speaker 3: allowed to do it, and it's stupid and it fucks
- 2:04:03Speaker 3: their life up, and maybe you should get your shit together. Also,
- 2:04:06Speaker 3: there's a lot of poor people that need help, and
- 2:04:08Speaker 3: the idea that you're going to cut that off from
- 2:04:10Speaker 3: them is kind of fucked up and uncharitable and Unamerican. Yeah,
- 2:04:14Speaker 3: but also there's people that take advantage of those programs
- 2:04:16Speaker 3: and they stay them forever and it kind of fucks
- 2:04:19Speaker 3: up the whole community. And oh that's true too. Okay,
- 2:04:22Speaker 3: So how do you set the standards and what do
- 2:04:24Speaker 3: you do and how do you do it? But most
- 2:04:25Speaker 3: people socially are very much in the middle. Like most
- 2:04:30Speaker 3: people want gay rights and civil rights and women's rights
- 2:04:34Speaker 3: and trans rights. We want rights. We want everybody to
- 2:04:37Speaker 3: be free.
- 2:04:38Speaker 2: Everybody wants to you, but get something. Check you just
- 2:04:42Speaker 2: check the way rights on something.
- 2:04:43Speaker 3: It's rights are important.
- 2:04:44Speaker 2: Like people say abortion rights and then people say gun rights. Yeah,
- 2:04:47Speaker 2: Like that's how you know if the media is in
- 2:04:50Speaker 2: favor of that thing or not. When it's coming up.
- 2:04:51Speaker 2: If they say rights, then they go this should be
- 2:04:54Speaker 2: Like abortion rights were conflicted in Roa v. Wade. They
- 2:04:57Speaker 2: just it didn't exist. Beforehand, they said there was a
- 2:05:00Speaker 2: I mean, maybe people can pass that, people can legislatively
- 2:05:04Speaker 2: have abortion on the books. But that's not what happened.
- 2:05:06Speaker 2: The Supreme Court just said, we infer that there's a
- 2:05:09Speaker 2: right to privacy somewhere in the Constitution. We're not going
- 2:05:13Speaker 2: to be clear about where that is, and so the
- 2:05:14Speaker 2: judiciary can just make it happen.
- 2:05:16Speaker 3: M Well, that's how it got overturned, right.
- 2:05:18Speaker 2: Yeah, because what can be done by the judiciary can
- 2:05:21Speaker 2: be overturned by the judiciary. And there's heaps of stuff
- 2:05:23Speaker 2: in America that just like the Supreme Court decided it
- 2:05:26Speaker 2: was going to happen. No one came in like gay
- 2:05:27Speaker 2: marriage was just a Supreme Court thing.
- 2:05:30Speaker 3: They just I think that's kind of also the will
- 2:05:33Speaker 3: of the people. Like most people are like let them
- 2:05:35Speaker 3: be married, Like what's the problem, Like how does that
- 2:05:37Speaker 3: fuck with your life?
- 2:05:38Speaker 2: But like California votes votes it in and then votes
- 2:05:41Speaker 2: it out again.
- 2:05:41Speaker 3: Right, Well, here's what's hilarious. Up until twenty thirteen, Hillary
- 2:05:45Speaker 3: Clinton was openly stating I don't think Barack Obama.
- 2:05:49Speaker 2: I think he said he was against it for the
- 2:05:50Speaker 2: first time.
- 2:05:50Speaker 3: Yeah. I think it was twenty thirteen where Hillary finally
- 2:05:55Speaker 3: said choose in favor of gay marriage. But they used
- 2:05:57Speaker 3: to always like, if you've ever seen those videos of
- 2:06:00Speaker 3: Hillary being more maga than Trump about the border, Oh
- 2:06:04Speaker 3: my god, she would be Queen Maga. She would be
- 2:06:07Speaker 3: she would have a diamond encrusted make America great again hat,
- 2:06:11Speaker 3: she would be the president if she was running today.
- 2:06:13Speaker 3: And I'm not bullshitting. I am not. I think not
- 2:06:16Speaker 3: bullshitt I.
- 2:06:17Speaker 2: Think it's a Sam Talent bit, right. I don't know
- 2:06:18Speaker 2: if he's still doing it, but he was going like
- 2:06:20Speaker 2: if Kamala had come out and said the wood retarded,
- 2:06:22Speaker 2: she would have won.
- 2:06:23Speaker 3: That's so, yeah, Sam Talent's funny.
- 2:06:26Speaker 2: But he yeah, there was, there's I mean, the Damns
- 2:06:29Speaker 2: were always against the It like the progressive wing takes
- 2:06:33Speaker 2: over the work. Thing happens at some point. But like
- 2:06:36Speaker 2: Biden was that saying super predators.
- 2:06:38Speaker 3: Bro, the Democrats were the ones who wanted.
- 2:06:41Speaker 2: To keep slavery, some of them the southern Democrats.
- 2:06:45Speaker 3: Okay, but understand yeah, yeah that the the Republicans are
- 2:06:48Speaker 3: the ones that we're trying to free the slaves. It's
- 2:06:50Speaker 3: like things just get weird and get reversed. So now
- 2:06:53Speaker 3: the Democrats are anti free speech if it's hate speech, yeah,
- 2:06:57Speaker 3: and disinformation and misinformation and mall in formation and this is.
- 2:07:01Speaker 2: All right, this is the Castro speech, that this is Castro.
- 2:07:05Speaker 2: So they ban it. The revolution takes over in Cuba.
- 2:07:07Speaker 2: They ban a film. They haven't had to ban a
- 2:07:09Speaker 2: film up to that point, but they banned the first film.
- 2:07:11Speaker 2: And Castro comes and gives like a two hour speech
- 2:07:14Speaker 2: to the intellectuals explaining why they're going to start banning movies.
- 2:07:17Speaker 3: What was the film?
- 2:07:18Speaker 2: It was called PM. It was it was just a
- 2:07:21Speaker 2: film about like poor black people having a good time.
- 2:07:24Speaker 2: It doesn't seem like there's a lot of political content
- 2:07:27Speaker 2: in the movie, but it gives this like it's this long, beautiful,
- 2:07:30Speaker 2: like two three thousand words up the top going I'm
- 2:07:33Speaker 2: listening to you and you're listening to me, and isn't
- 2:07:35Speaker 2: that great that we have a conversation. And then just
- 2:07:37Speaker 2: out of nowhere, he goes, the revolution's in control, and
- 2:07:41Speaker 2: your freedoms are not. You don't have a right to
- 2:07:44Speaker 2: make whatever film you want. We're going to decide, and
- 2:07:46Speaker 2: people are clapping and going for it. But if you like,
- 2:07:48Speaker 2: if you take revolution and sub that out for progress
- 2:07:51Speaker 2: or safety or anti racism. People would totally get behind that.
- 2:07:54Speaker 3: Yes, And this is what everyone who's been sounding the horn,
- 2:07:58Speaker 3: you know, including guys like Constant and Kissing from Trigonometry
- 2:08:02Speaker 3: and Jordan Peterson and people that understand the history of Marxism,
- 2:08:06Speaker 3: They're like, this is how it always comes. It comes
- 2:08:08Speaker 3: in the guise of doing the greater good for the
- 2:08:10Speaker 3: people and letting the state control things. This is what
- 2:08:13Speaker 3: happened in North Korea. That's how they all lost their farms. Yeah. Yeah,
- 2:08:16Speaker 3: but it come in and then they it centralized power
- 2:08:18Speaker 3: and then everybody has to shut the fuck up because
- 2:08:20Speaker 3: that's how people operate.
- 2:08:21Speaker 2: I think from a like, if you have a materialist
- 2:08:23Speaker 2: worldview of the universe that makes sense, I can see
- 2:08:27Speaker 2: how you would you would get there. Like, it's a
- 2:08:28Speaker 2: weird thing to say God has given you a right
- 2:08:31Speaker 2: to express yourself and to hang out with who you want.
- 2:08:33Speaker 2: This is like a week. This is this is why
- 2:08:36Speaker 2: it has to be in the dec It's other in
- 2:08:38Speaker 2: the Declaration of the Constitution. But like, these are God
- 2:08:40Speaker 2: given rights and they're self evident. Yeah, because you would
- 2:08:42Speaker 2: if you were designing a utopia, which is what every
- 2:08:44Speaker 2: revolutionary wants to do. You're saying, we're fixing society with
- 2:08:47Speaker 2: fixing human nature. Right, there's nothing that would intrinsically make
- 2:08:52Speaker 2: you say people have a right to say whatever they want,
- 2:08:56Speaker 2: like that has to come from somewhere. That's like a
- 2:08:58Speaker 2: that's a weird it's beautiful a lot to come from
- 2:09:00Speaker 2: such might.
- 2:09:01Speaker 3: It comes from being under the brutal heel of a
- 2:09:03Speaker 3: dictator for the entire country.
- 2:09:06Speaker 2: But then as soon as they have a revolution they
- 2:09:08Speaker 2: take that away. You know, you use the weapon of
- 2:09:10Speaker 2: your masta. The revolutionaries, having been under batista and repressed
- 2:09:13Speaker 2: and not all to see what they want, they come
- 2:09:15Speaker 2: to parent they go, yeah, we're going to be doing
- 2:09:16Speaker 2: that now. That's what the guy in power gets to do.
- 2:09:18Speaker 2: But to say the state is sating that this is
- 2:09:21Speaker 2: like a beautiful strange.
- 2:09:23Speaker 3: Well, isn't there any different out? Yes, this is, But
- 2:09:25Speaker 3: isn't there a difference between taking over an existing country
- 2:09:28Speaker 3: like Cuba that had been around for a long time. Yeah,
- 2:09:31Speaker 3: a communist regime taking over versus the establishment of a
- 2:09:35Speaker 3: place like the United States, which is an exercise, like
- 2:09:39Speaker 3: an experiment really in self government that's never been achieved before.
- 2:09:43Speaker 3: And it's not a coincidence that it's the newest country
- 2:09:46Speaker 3: in terms of like superpowers, and yet it's the one
- 2:09:48Speaker 3: that's achieved the most in terms of cultural impact, artistic impact,
- 2:09:53Speaker 3: intellectual impact. It's a hard argument that United States hasn't
- 2:09:57Speaker 3: achieved more than anybody. I mean, the fucking nuclear bomb
- 2:09:59Speaker 3: was created here, you know, shut your mouth, right, Allegedly,
- 2:10:03Speaker 3: we went to the moon. I don't think we did,
- 2:10:04Speaker 3: but allegedly. But you know, also a lot of assassinations,
- 2:10:11Speaker 3: a lot of like overturning governments in other countries, a
- 2:10:14Speaker 3: lot of shit. Yeah, it's not good, But the point
- 2:10:17Speaker 3: is like this is the most free place and the
- 2:10:19Speaker 3: most shit gets done.
- 2:10:22Speaker 2: I mean, I don't disagree with that at all.
- 2:10:24Speaker 3: And I think this is the progress that the human
- 2:10:28Speaker 3: civilization goes through. It realizes it's suppression ultimately is bad
- 2:10:31Speaker 3: for everybody. It's bad for GDP, bad for like, it's
- 2:10:35Speaker 3: bad for patriotism, it's bad for everything. Yeah, it's bad
- 2:10:38Speaker 3: for people's appreciation of each other. It's it's hard to
- 2:10:41Speaker 3: govern when people are fucking angry. And and then the
- 2:10:45Speaker 3: breakoff civilizations always seek more freedom. Yeah, you know, I
- 2:10:49Speaker 3: think we got to try one more time with Greenland.
- 2:10:52Speaker 3: Give it a guy, I think if Trump takes Greenland
- 2:10:55Speaker 3: and global warming is real, that's the spot.
- 2:10:59Speaker 2: Well, Canada have to become a state, and then there's
- 2:11:01Speaker 2: a lot of good land up there.
- 2:11:02Speaker 3: Our friend who went up to Greenland and when stag
- 2:11:05Speaker 3: hunting or caribou hunting, they hunt cariboo in Greenland. It
- 2:11:09Speaker 3: was beautiful, man. The area they were out was fucking gorgeous.
- 2:11:12Speaker 3: It was incredible. It's like these these insane hills and
- 2:11:17Speaker 3: these herd of cariboo come through and there's just so
- 2:11:20Speaker 3: many caribou. It's so beautiful. Yeah, it's so clean. They're
- 2:11:23Speaker 3: just they're camping.
- 2:11:24Speaker 2: Yah. Chick fil amup there, get a freeway in a
- 2:11:27Speaker 2: Chick fil A.
- 2:11:28Speaker 3: You ever have caribou?
- 2:11:29Speaker 2: I can't compete with Chick fil a chicks.
- 2:11:31Speaker 3: You don't know what you're talking about. I don't know.
- 2:11:33Speaker 2: I've never had cariboo. I want to go back this
- 2:11:34Speaker 2: thing of like, yeah, America has done a great deal.
- 2:11:37Speaker 2: It's very free, but they're like the rate of change
- 2:11:39Speaker 2: in the culture is also unparallel. Like you look at
- 2:11:42Speaker 2: the Egyptians and they're doing the same pictures for thousands
- 2:11:46Speaker 2: of year. The feet all point in the same way,
- 2:11:48Speaker 2: and we don't mess with the artistic style. We like
- 2:11:50Speaker 2: the medieval era. There's like a there's a homogeneity through
- 2:11:53Speaker 2: time and a culture that gets passed on. If you
- 2:11:55Speaker 2: look at America of the last seventy years, it's wacky.
- 2:12:00Speaker 2: Like a couple nights ago, I was watching like the
- 2:12:04Speaker 2: number one song in America consecutively on YouTube, so like
- 2:12:07Speaker 2: they played twenty seconds from that number one song and
- 2:12:09Speaker 2: then the next number one song, and early on it's
- 2:12:11Speaker 2: all like, guys in suits, gone, my baby, she's so beautiful,
- 2:12:15Speaker 2: I love her. I'm going to take her to a dance.
- 2:12:17Speaker 2: And then by the end it's like, you know, I'm
- 2:12:19Speaker 2: a fisty ass and kill someone with my wife. Like
- 2:12:23Speaker 2: it's there's a huge shift. Like all the institutions ostensibly
- 2:12:28Speaker 2: the same, the way people vote, the way people go
- 2:12:30Speaker 2: to school, the actual culture that's inhabiting all those things
- 2:12:33Speaker 2: is like radically changing all the.
- 2:12:35Speaker 3: Time, all the time. Yeah, And there's a bunch of
- 2:12:37Speaker 3: different factors, right, So you have the nineteen fifties factor,
- 2:12:41Speaker 3: you know, which was like Elvis on television and Buddy
- 2:12:45Speaker 3: Holly and all these people. Then the drugs come in,
- 2:12:47Speaker 3: and then drugs come in, and so they were probably
- 2:12:50Speaker 3: doing drugs back then too, but just probably not the
- 2:12:52Speaker 3: good ones. And then the nineteen sixties psychedelics. So the
- 2:12:55Speaker 3: nineteen sixties you get Hendrix, you know, you get the Doors.
- 2:12:59Speaker 3: You get the doors.
- 2:13:00Speaker 2: When the Beatles and the Doors in the Stones come there,
- 2:13:02Speaker 2: it's like, here are the first cool people ever, first.
- 2:13:04Speaker 3: Cool people ever. And so then that all dries up
- 2:13:07Speaker 3: when they pass the laws in the nineteen seventies through
- 2:13:10Speaker 3: the Nixon administration to kill the civil rights movement and
- 2:13:13Speaker 3: to kill the anti war movement. You make everything illegal.
- 2:13:16Speaker 3: Then you get the cocaine era. So cocaine ruins music.
- 2:13:19Speaker 3: The nineteen eighties is like, there's some great music in
- 2:13:21Speaker 3: the eighties, but there.
- 2:13:23Speaker 2: Is a great album.
- 2:13:24Speaker 3: There's a lot of horseshit in the eighties too. There's
- 2:13:26Speaker 3: still still brilliant artists. There's always going to be brilliant artists,
- 2:13:28Speaker 3: but there's a lack of that psychedelic progression that Hendrix.
- 2:13:32Speaker 2: It definitely shifts into a weird everything gets weird, white everything,
- 2:13:36Speaker 2: it's weird. Yeah, And the eighties late eighties they figured
- 2:13:39Speaker 2: it out. They figured out how to appropriate the counterculture
- 2:13:41Speaker 2: thing and put a corporate look on it.
- 2:13:44Speaker 3: Well, it was cocaine. They killed, they killed the psychedelics,
- 2:13:48Speaker 3: and it entered into an area of cocaine. Like you
- 2:13:53Speaker 3: see movies get real weird. Yeah, a lot of movies
- 2:13:55Speaker 3: are like like real stupid, like they don't make any sense,
- 2:13:58Speaker 3: the dumbest shit. And then you go back to like
- 2:14:00Speaker 3: nineteen sixty three and you see the Hustler. He said, Okay,
- 2:14:03Speaker 3: why were they so good back then? Why were some
- 2:14:06Speaker 3: man of these movies?
- 2:14:07Speaker 2: It's late twenties. Yeah, early Frank Keppra just watches like
- 2:14:10Speaker 2: a normal modern film. There's some great movies, man, But
- 2:14:13Speaker 2: when you started comedy was this early nineties eighty eight,
- 2:14:17Speaker 2: so you they would have been a period like it
- 2:14:20Speaker 2: seems like cocaine was big in American comedy circles for
- 2:14:22Speaker 2: a time.
- 2:14:23Speaker 3: It was treated.
- 2:14:24Speaker 2: Yeah, but it disappeared at a sitting.
- 2:14:26Speaker 3: It doesn't disappear everywhere. There's some places that are still.
- 2:14:29Speaker 3: They love the coke.
- 2:14:30Speaker 2: I don't run into active drug addicts very often, well
- 2:14:34Speaker 2: people do.
- 2:14:35Speaker 3: They don't last. The weed comics last, The fucking coke
- 2:14:40Speaker 3: comics don't last.
- 2:14:41Speaker 2: Heroin people keep going, well, so they don't. Yeah, but
- 2:14:44Speaker 2: the red hot chili papers look great. They've been they're clean.
- 2:14:47Speaker 3: I think they're clean for a long time.
- 2:14:49Speaker 2: I think they did back in from times you think so,
- 2:14:51Speaker 2: I don't know. I think I have to by the
- 2:14:52Speaker 2: way I think they But they were a heroin band
- 2:14:54Speaker 2: for ages. Yeah, Iggy Pop, I don't know if he's
- 2:14:56Speaker 2: still on heroin. But he's looking Oh he's terrible. He
- 2:15:00Speaker 2: looks so but he looked that way thirty years ago.
- 2:15:02Speaker 2: He's like, that was scoopy. He looked like a well he.
- 2:15:04Speaker 3: Looked, but he looked old thirty years ago. But he
- 2:15:06Speaker 3: had like he was lean and he moved around on
- 2:15:09Speaker 3: stage with his shirt off. But now he looks like
- 2:15:11Speaker 3: he's barely walk Yeah, it's like something's wrong with it.
- 2:15:13Speaker 2: You see the ICDC one that was like, last week.
- 2:15:17Speaker 3: You gotta se Iggy Pop first, how bad? I told it.
- 2:15:19Speaker 2: He popped like ten years ago and he was great.
- 2:15:21Speaker 3: He's great.
- 2:15:22Speaker 2: No, dude, I had to kick a woman in a
- 2:15:24Speaker 2: mush pit. I was. He was dragging people. He was saying,
- 2:15:27Speaker 2: come on stage, everybody.
- 2:15:28Speaker 3: In One of my favorite green room songs is Passenger. Yeah,
- 2:15:31Speaker 3: fucking great song man.
- 2:15:32Speaker 2: After the shot, I couldn't listen to Passenger before a show,
- 2:15:35Speaker 2: but to say it really.
- 2:15:37Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, I'm a passenger.
- 2:15:41Speaker 2: But do he look like now? Is he is this
- 2:15:43Speaker 2: twenty twenty three?
- 2:15:44Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 2:15:44Speaker 2: Is he still just good in the face?
- 2:15:46Speaker 3: No, No, look, he's still killing it. It's just he
- 2:15:48Speaker 3: has a hard time getting around. It looks like there's
- 2:15:50Speaker 3: something right.
- 2:15:52Speaker 2: It does look like he's got spine biffitting that.
- 2:15:54Speaker 3: I think he's got something wrong with his hip or something,
- 2:15:56Speaker 3: which is super common, especially for performers who dance around
- 2:16:00Speaker 3: on stage crazy. Yeah. Oh yes, Oh so he's having
- 2:16:05Speaker 3: a hard time moving, still killing it, but like, let
- 2:16:09Speaker 3: me hear some of.
- 2:16:10Speaker 2: That chickat after that, bring up the ic DC at
- 2:16:13Speaker 2: the moment, it's very It's just he's still got something.
- 2:16:31Speaker 3: He's got it. He's still iggy pop. But yeah, his
- 2:16:33Speaker 3: body's struggling. And like I know a lot of guys
- 2:16:36Speaker 3: like Ted NuGen had to get both his knees replaced
- 2:16:38Speaker 3: because he was jumping off amplifiers. Yeah, Maynard from Tool,
- 2:16:43Speaker 3: he had to get his hip replaced. His hip was
- 2:16:45Speaker 3: fucked up.
- 2:16:45Speaker 2: It's when Neil Diamond had the right plan. Just standing
- 2:16:48Speaker 2: there there just sing your beautiful songs. You can do
- 2:16:50Speaker 2: that forever.
- 2:16:51Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good move.
- 2:16:52Speaker 2: Uh Now, they all get it's hard.
- 2:16:54Speaker 3: Man. You're bouncing around on the stage all the time,
- 2:16:57Speaker 3: stomping the ground like Anthony Keatis's knees all fucked up.
- 2:17:00Speaker 3: Man ah, he like I went to see someone looks great,
- 2:17:03Speaker 3: he's great. He killed it. We went to see the
- 2:17:04Speaker 3: Chili Peppers when they were in town, and then afterwards
- 2:17:06Speaker 3: he's got an icis. I feel bad? You know he's
- 2:17:09Speaker 3: still on stage. They don't notice it.
- 2:17:11Speaker 2: Every time someone says they don't like the Chili Peppers,
- 2:17:13Speaker 2: I distressed them.
- 2:17:14Speaker 3: Immediately sucked My kiss is a fucking great.
- 2:17:17Speaker 2: That whole album is start to finish.
- 2:17:19Speaker 5: I found a different video ACDC the shirts. I think
- 2:17:21Speaker 5: that one video is solid. It's just kind of weird.
- 2:17:25Speaker 2: Thing was all right, there's one he looks in this one.
- 2:17:29Speaker 3: Twenty five.
- 2:17:29Speaker 5: Yeah, there was a viral video going around where they
- 2:17:32Speaker 5: looked a little slow.
- 2:17:33Speaker 2: And now he's still got it. I take it back,
- 2:17:39Speaker 2: but this is I mean, if you were a classical composer,
- 2:17:41Speaker 2: you just get to be old and wear your big
- 2:17:43Speaker 2: padded wig and keep running till you're eighty. As a
- 2:17:46Speaker 2: rock star, a big part of it is that you
- 2:17:48Speaker 2: physically threatening and that women want to have sex with
- 2:17:51Speaker 2: you right like this is.
- 2:17:52Speaker 3: This has seen? Have you seen Mick Jagger's girlfriend?
- 2:17:55Speaker 2: H yes, she's a beautiful baby.
- 2:17:59Speaker 3: She's so she's so hot, she's so hot, and she's
- 2:18:02Speaker 3: like thirty or something like that, and he's two thousand.
- 2:18:06Speaker 2: I got to meet al Pacino's baby mama.
- 2:18:08Speaker 3: But we gotta see the pictures of Mick with the
- 2:18:10Speaker 3: girl with the lady.
- 2:18:11Speaker 2: Look at this, Yeah, this is the one.
- 2:18:13Speaker 3: What's up?
- 2:18:13Speaker 2: This is the one that went viral. But he's just
- 2:18:18Speaker 2: stomping on stage and that's the way he said.
- 2:18:19Speaker 3: Oi, I'm here. Ac DC urged to retire after recent
- 2:18:31Speaker 3: concert footage goes viral. Assholes here.
- 2:18:41Speaker 2: He does seem tired. I don't think he should have
- 2:18:42Speaker 2: to retire, but.
- 2:18:45Speaker 5: Still play a long set. You probably all right.
- 2:18:48Speaker 2: That's our greatest export, that's for sure. We've never done
- 2:18:52Speaker 2: anything that great before since.
- 2:18:54Speaker 3: Listen, guys get old. It's hard to come up with
- 2:18:56Speaker 3: the full power oys when you hit that age. But
- 2:19:00Speaker 3: what was the point? Oh, Mick Jagger and.
- 2:19:02Speaker 2: His new girl was fly honey.
- 2:19:03Speaker 3: Oh, she's so hot and he's at least a million
- 2:19:07Speaker 3: years old? He how old is he? Yeah?
- 2:19:09Speaker 2: I got to see him like ten years ago and
- 2:19:10Speaker 2: he seemed all damn but he was still griving.
- 2:19:12Speaker 3: Oh dude. I saw him in town as well. I
- 2:19:14Speaker 3: saw him at the Circuit of the Americas. They did
- 2:19:17Speaker 3: this gigantic outdoor concert. It was fucking incredible. Look at her,
- 2:19:20Speaker 3: Ba bam Son, what's up now, dude? She's so hot
- 2:19:27Speaker 3: and she's like, I can't believe I'm with Mick Jagger.
- 2:19:30Speaker 3: That's what talent does.
- 2:19:31Speaker 2: He seems happy as well. He seems grell.
- 2:19:33Speaker 3: I would imagine that would make you happy.
- 2:19:36Speaker 2: I mean, but then she's talking about a young woman
- 2:19:39Speaker 2: things and you just want to read the Financial Times
- 2:19:41Speaker 2: and pace and I don't know.
- 2:19:42Speaker 3: Man, maybe maybe that's why so good. Still, maybe he
- 2:19:45Speaker 3: stays young.
- 2:19:46Speaker 2: Still.
- 2:19:47Speaker 3: They fucking killed it, man. They killed it at Coda
- 2:19:49Speaker 3: al Pacino.
- 2:19:51Speaker 2: She was backstage and I had another kid.
- 2:19:52Speaker 3: I got another one, Yeah, yeah, another one.
- 2:19:55Speaker 2: I got dragged away when I met her because people
- 2:19:56Speaker 2: thought I was gonna ask weird stuff.
- 2:19:58Speaker 3: So this is a new gal. Oh boy, he's eighty five.
- 2:20:02Speaker 2: Holy, he still looks good.
- 2:20:07Speaker 3: What do you want me to do?
- 2:20:08Speaker 2: He's got a great hat.
- 2:20:09Speaker 3: I mean, wow, she's hot.
- 2:20:12Speaker 2: It does start to look like you're Oh. They split.
- 2:20:14Speaker 2: I think that's the one I'm in.
- 2:20:15Speaker 3: That was the one that he's split with. But he's
- 2:20:17Speaker 3: got another one. Wow, good for him.
- 2:20:22Speaker 2: He loves breaden he still had. They're doing it.
- 2:20:24Speaker 3: Listen, don't give Elon shit. Don't give him shit.
- 2:20:27Speaker 2: I just like it down in the old fashioned way.
- 2:20:29Speaker 2: I like the Genghis Khan written his way across the state.
- 2:20:34Speaker 2: I fear also like Elon didn't. Probably he's one of
- 2:20:36Speaker 2: the only billionaires who allows himself to be seen and
- 2:20:39Speaker 2: judged and thought about. But if we had a list
- 2:20:41Speaker 2: of the top one hundred richest people in the world,
- 2:20:43Speaker 2: we would know.
- 2:20:45Speaker 3: Eight of them.
- 2:20:47Speaker 2: Like, these are the hidden figures who are doing that?
- 2:20:49Speaker 3: Well, the real richest people in the world are probably
- 2:20:52Speaker 3: the oil sounds. Yeah, because they don't even have to
- 2:20:55Speaker 3: tell you how much money they have.
- 2:20:57Speaker 2: Yeah. Once they're building an ice Yeah, what a tobogganing
- 2:21:03Speaker 2: room in the desert?
- 2:21:07Speaker 3: Bro, they they're building that that the line? Have you
- 2:21:10Speaker 3: seen that?
- 2:21:11Speaker 2: Like, yeah, it's going to be nice.
- 2:21:13Speaker 3: Maybe I have so much money they can make it nice. Yeah,
- 2:21:16Speaker 3: Look what they did at Dubai. You ever see those
- 2:21:18Speaker 3: time last photos of Dubai?
- 2:21:20Speaker 2: But they didn't even put you can't even go to
- 2:21:23Speaker 2: the toilet in that in the bers Khalifa? What do
- 2:21:25Speaker 2: you mean they didn't put like it's so big they
- 2:21:28Speaker 2: couldn't get plumbing to work it, so they have like
- 2:21:31Speaker 2: trucks come along and pick up the poo from downstairs
- 2:21:33Speaker 2: every day and have to drive it out. It seems
- 2:21:36Speaker 2: like a fake.
- 2:21:38Speaker 3: Something needs to be fired. Somebody's probably killed.
- 2:21:40Speaker 2: Someone has has been quietly chopped into pieces.
- 2:21:43Speaker 3: Right, they've got because how are you going to fix that?
- 2:21:46Speaker 3: The bird Khalif is like how many stories? It's too
- 2:21:49Speaker 3: big and it's all buckets and shit being carried.
- 2:21:52Speaker 2: I believe I could be getting that wrong, but someone
- 2:21:53Speaker 2: told me that they have like semi trailers that come
- 2:21:56Speaker 2: by in the morning.
- 2:21:57Speaker 3: Is it a hug?
- 2:21:58Speaker 2: I take it back, I got one wrong. I was
- 2:21:59Speaker 2: right about the foot binding I should write about.
- 2:22:02Speaker 3: Which will probably edit that out so they don't kill you.
- 2:22:04Speaker 2: No, it's right. Hey, I know I love the Kingdom
- 2:22:08Speaker 2: of Soud. I'm a big fan. I could be got
- 2:22:11Speaker 2: on comprom at, so easily send me a new car.
- 2:22:15Speaker 2: I'll say great thingies about the regime. No one has
- 2:22:18Speaker 2: come to me, not even someone selling dick pills or nothing.
- 2:22:21Speaker 3: Get to that.
- 2:22:21Speaker 2: Let it's uh, I don't see.
- 2:22:25Speaker 3: I come on bro, more and more appearances like this
- 2:22:27Speaker 3: and it'll all happens.
- 2:22:29Speaker 2: I'd be doing gamb I'll be doing draft Kings.
- 2:22:31Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go, and I think I could.
- 2:22:35Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out what companies I would have
- 2:22:36Speaker 2: on my podcast and it wouldn't.
- 2:22:38Speaker 3: But do you gamble at all?
- 2:22:40Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't like the companies. I like, you know, regular, regular,
- 2:22:45Speaker 2: but your money for this it's ruined footy in Australia, everybody.
- 2:22:49Speaker 2: I think we're that now I will I will write
- 2:22:51Speaker 2: on this with Australia's the highest per capita gambling losses
- 2:22:54Speaker 2: in the world and we've beat Singapore. We shouldn't beating
- 2:22:57Speaker 2: the Asian countries. Asians should have gambling?
- 2:23:00Speaker 3: Is that because you don't have to read in any
- 2:23:02Speaker 3: other place?
- 2:23:02Speaker 2: So you went I think so, I think everything is
- 2:23:04Speaker 2: so safe that it's like I've got to lose everything
- 2:23:06Speaker 2: on this.
- 2:23:06Speaker 3: You go crazy on that one thing.
- 2:23:08Speaker 2: We gambling, Yeah, because booz is expensive. But then the
- 2:23:13Speaker 2: way that they advertise on you you always have to
- 2:23:16Speaker 2: see the lion. You can't watch a game of football
- 2:23:17Speaker 2: with someone because they go. They don't just want their
- 2:23:19Speaker 2: team to win anymore. They want like this guy to
- 2:23:21Speaker 2: get twenty seven disposals and the second goal of the game.
- 2:23:24Speaker 2: It's like, just I want to watch footy, but gambling
- 2:23:28Speaker 2: is very exciting.
- 2:23:28Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a thing like that in MMA too. You know,
- 2:23:31Speaker 3: it's a it's a big factor in MMA.
- 2:23:33Speaker 2: I think like if your guy gets you know, he wins,
- 2:23:36Speaker 2: but by submission, then you're upset because he didn't knock
- 2:23:38Speaker 2: the other guy out and you lost money.
- 2:23:39Speaker 3: There's like the Drake thing too, because Drake spent he
- 2:23:42Speaker 3: he bets like the record big money on the UFC
- 2:23:46Speaker 3: And did he bet on Charles Oliver or Ilio Tilporia.
- 2:23:50Speaker 2: That was nutty. I wish that also, it was that
- 2:23:54Speaker 2: was the first one of those.
- 2:23:55Speaker 5: So I met you you bet two hundred grand Charles.
- 2:23:58Speaker 3: Yeah. See that's they called Drake.
- 2:24:00Speaker 2: Kurtis bets on cuts down.
- 2:24:03Speaker 3: Yeah, Drake's UFC betting history returned zero dollars.
- 2:24:08Speaker 5: Who is he not Krismen who comes to the UFC
- 2:24:11Speaker 5: overall though he's up a million bucks.
- 2:24:12Speaker 3: Oh all time from his public UFC bets. From his
- 2:24:15Speaker 3: public ones over twenty five bets, he's wagered thirteen point
- 2:24:18Speaker 3: four to five million dollars returning fourteen point four eight.
- 2:24:22Speaker 2: Yeah, but everyone, he's.
- 2:24:23Speaker 3: Won ten out of those twenty five bets, losing fifteen times.
- 2:24:27Speaker 2: You got public when you win.
- 2:24:28Speaker 3: Interesting.
- 2:24:29Speaker 2: It's a guy who comes back to the office on Monday.
- 2:24:31Speaker 3: But look at that, he's only one forty percent of
- 2:24:34Speaker 3: the time. His average UFC bet size is five hundred
- 2:24:37Speaker 3: and thirty eight K. That's interesting, though, because he's only
- 2:24:41Speaker 3: won forty percent of the time. He just bets big
- 2:24:43Speaker 3: when he's sure and so he's ahead. His biggest single
- 2:24:48Speaker 3: loss was Adasanya to beat Alex Pereira in twenty two,
- 2:24:53Speaker 3: the one that uh Pereira won. The first one single
- 2:24:58Speaker 3: bet victory was John Jones over Cyreal Gone successfully us
- 2:25:03Speaker 3: predicting John Jones to win by submission. Interesting hand on, But.
- 2:25:07Speaker 2: This is a whole website dedicated to it. He could
- 2:25:10Speaker 2: have sit this out.
- 2:25:11Speaker 3: No, No, it's it's commonly.
- 2:25:13Speaker 2: No, he's betting on cricket. Yeah, why is he betting
- 2:25:15Speaker 2: on cricket?
- 2:25:16Speaker 3: He likes to bet, dude, he's richest. Face gets his
- 2:25:19Speaker 3: jollys off like throwing large numbers at.
- 2:25:21Speaker 5: Three bets on cricket returning two point sixty five. Mili
- 2:25:25Speaker 5: so he's a three for three, so he knows what
- 2:25:27Speaker 5: he's doing. He's making money.
- 2:25:30Speaker 2: Yeah, but you always bet on the Royals in the cricket.
- 2:25:32Speaker 3: Well, if you're gonna bet though, betting on sports where
- 2:25:35Speaker 3: you actually know the game, yes, that's a smart thing
- 2:25:38Speaker 3: to bet on. Like I bet, if I bet on fighting,
- 2:25:43Speaker 3: I bet I'd be right sixty percent of the time.
- 2:25:45Speaker 2: They'd be a you'd have a deal with they'd say,
- 2:25:47Speaker 2: don't you do you?
- 2:25:48Speaker 3: Oh no, you can't. The UFC won't let you. But
- 2:25:51Speaker 3: that was only recent. Man, that was recent because there
- 2:25:54Speaker 3: was an accusation that one of the trainers had been
- 2:25:56Speaker 3: posting on some website and uh that they knew that
- 2:26:01Speaker 3: this guy was injured and the guy lost in the
- 2:26:04Speaker 3: first round and there's a bunch of money that's not
- 2:26:06Speaker 3: on him losing in the first round because he had
- 2:26:08Speaker 3: a blown out.
- 2:26:08Speaker 2: And I think there was a footy player in Australia
- 2:26:10Speaker 2: who was betting on himself to kick goals, which was
- 2:26:13Speaker 2: like not like you have to. He was backing himself
- 2:26:15Speaker 2: and it was like fifteen dollars or something. He was
- 2:26:16Speaker 2: very small, but he just got in trouble for that.
- 2:26:19Speaker 2: He got in trouble for that, even though they betting
- 2:26:20Speaker 2: on themselves, he's been on himself to do well.
- 2:26:22Speaker 3: I think if you bet on yourself to win, that
- 2:26:24Speaker 3: should be legal.
- 2:26:25Speaker 2: It seems I bet on the Eurovision Song contest, that's
- 2:26:27Speaker 2: my go to.
- 2:26:29Speaker 3: Fighters have made like personal bets with each other, like
- 2:26:32Speaker 3: I'll bet you think that's first. Yeah, that's what makes
- 2:26:34Speaker 3: it more exciting.
- 2:26:35Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's definitely room for if there's room for
- 2:26:38Speaker 2: someone to throw it, that's an issue.
- 2:26:40Speaker 3: That is an issue, you're an issue with fighting Eurovision
- 2:26:42Speaker 3: is a good bit. If you found out that a
- 2:26:43Speaker 3: fighter bet against himself, like oh god, or the trainer
- 2:26:47Speaker 3: bet against the fighter, which has happened before. That has
- 2:26:50Speaker 3: happened before. It was like anonymous back in the day,
- 2:26:53Speaker 3: like in the old boxing days, like people could throw
- 2:26:56Speaker 3: fights and you know, yeah, that shit happened all the
- 2:26:58Speaker 3: time on the waterfront. That's why Yep, yep, yep, nope,
- 2:27:02Speaker 3: Mylon Brando. Yeah, that also that that is happened in MMA,
- 2:27:08Speaker 3: especially in Japan. In Japan in the early days, there
- 2:27:11Speaker 3: was a lot of fixed fights and you could kind
- 2:27:13Speaker 3: of tell some of them. You watch them, you're like,
- 2:27:15Speaker 3: oh my god, it's fixed. But it was be like
- 2:27:17Speaker 3: fit because a lot of the Japanese stars originally in
- 2:27:20Speaker 3: Pride came from the world of pro wrestling, yes, where
- 2:27:23Speaker 3: they had determined outcomes, and so some of these guys
- 2:27:26Speaker 3: were stars, and there's a few fights that they had
- 2:27:28Speaker 3: as stars were it was a fixed fight.
- 2:27:30Speaker 2: But like that that logan pull Mike Tyson fight, Yeah,
- 2:27:34Speaker 2: he could have knocked him out earlier and clearly was
- 2:27:38Speaker 2: choosing not to. I mean, he bows to him at
- 2:27:39Speaker 2: the end.
- 2:27:40Speaker 3: It seemed to me like sparring. Yeah, when I watched it,
- 2:27:44Speaker 3: which you know, look I paid for it. They got me.
- 2:27:47Speaker 3: I thought it was going to be a real fight.
- 2:27:49Speaker 3: But I'm not mad because I'm just happy that Mike
- 2:27:51Speaker 3: Tyson made a ton of money. Yeah, and I'm happy
- 2:27:53Speaker 3: for Jake Paul that he made it. And look, if
- 2:27:55Speaker 3: you decided not to try to hurt Mike Tyson at
- 2:27:57Speaker 3: fifty eight years.
- 2:27:58Speaker 2: Old, sure, but some guy out there who had a
- 2:28:01Speaker 2: million dollars on.
- 2:28:02Speaker 3: That's the problem. That's why. Look, maybe it was a
- 2:28:04Speaker 3: real fight. Maybe that's just the level that they both
- 2:28:06Speaker 3: fight at, but you know, it seemed it seemed a
- 2:28:11Speaker 3: little suss.
- 2:28:13Speaker 2: You know, I meant that in the Green room, I think,
- 2:28:16Speaker 2: and we couldn't get it, couldn't get it going.
- 2:28:18Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think that, you know, at the end
- 2:28:20Speaker 3: of the day, that's okay. It doesn't bother me. It's
- 2:28:23Speaker 3: a different that's a different situation than someone like Terence
- 2:28:28Speaker 3: Crawford fighting Canelo Operas. And I don't think that that
- 2:28:30Speaker 3: fight's legit. If I saw that and I didn't think
- 2:28:32Speaker 3: it was legit, I'd be furious, Like, you guys are
- 2:28:34Speaker 3: in your prime. He's the best fighters on planet Earth.
- 2:28:37Speaker 3: We're finally going to get to see you guys box
- 2:28:39Speaker 3: and you threw a fight. But that's not what's going on,
- 2:28:41Speaker 3: you know, Mike Tyson, Jake Paul was the most heavily
- 2:28:44Speaker 3: wagered fight in years. Okay, that's a problem. That makes
- 2:28:47Speaker 3: it a problem. My opinion is I just want to say, Okay,
- 2:28:52Speaker 3: someone calls me to court, I'm a fucking idiot and
- 2:28:55Speaker 3: I don't know nothing, and don't take my advice.
- 2:28:58Speaker 2: I'll take my opinion. I love the Israeli government.
- 2:29:01Speaker 5: I love it.
- 2:29:01Speaker 3: Nothing to do with them. That was Jake Paul promoting it.
- 2:29:04Speaker 3: You know. It's just like, but that doesn't doesn't bother me.
- 2:29:07Speaker 2: It's compromising. The sport and that's like bad. It's just
- 2:29:10Speaker 2: like if I bet on it, watching it, watching it
- 2:29:13Speaker 2: with people who have who are so in on it.
- 2:29:15Speaker 2: And then also the like man the sports betting apps
- 2:29:19Speaker 2: they've like they introduced like chat apps in them in Australia.
- 2:29:22Speaker 2: So it's like they're trying to take the place of
- 2:29:23Speaker 2: social media companies where you go together and you meet
- 2:29:25Speaker 2: your friends. Like betting should be exciting enough with that
- 2:29:28Speaker 2: having a weird they're just trying to drawings.
- 2:29:30Speaker 3: They're just trying to make money, right, so they're trying
- 2:29:31Speaker 3: to draw you in any way they can. Yeah. Yeah.
- 2:29:35Speaker 3: When I was first starting to work for the UFC,
- 2:29:38Speaker 3: I bet. I bet a bunch of times because uh,
- 2:29:41Speaker 3: and then I thought like I probably shouldn't do this,
- 2:29:43Speaker 3: but I couldn't. I was thinking I was justifying in
- 2:29:45Speaker 3: my head. I was like, I can't affect the outcome
- 2:29:47Speaker 3: and it wasn't all. There was no rule.
- 2:29:49Speaker 2: It doesn't matter how you're cooling it, it's not gonna.
- 2:29:51Speaker 3: I'm not going to change. And also like I like
- 2:29:54Speaker 3: the fights and I'm not going to bet that much anyway.
- 2:29:56Speaker 3: But then my business partner on it and I Aubrey,
- 2:29:59Speaker 3: he he would bet on things. I would tell him
- 2:30:02Speaker 3: to bet on. He was up like eighty percent at
- 2:30:04Speaker 3: one time. Because in the early days, like in the
- 2:30:07Speaker 3: early like two thousands ish, when they're bringing in guys
- 2:30:11Speaker 3: from like Japan and Russia, there was a lot of
- 2:30:14Speaker 3: dudes that I knew about that the bookmakers didn't know about,
- 2:30:18Speaker 3: you know, like where Like like when Anderson Silva came
- 2:30:21Speaker 3: over to America, I was like, bet the house, bet
- 2:30:24Speaker 3: everything on Anderson. I mean bet everything. Because Chris Leban,
- 2:30:29Speaker 3: who's a great fighter, is taylor made for that style.
- 2:30:31Speaker 3: And Anderson is one of the nastiest strikers that's ever
- 2:30:34Speaker 3: competed in the sport. He's so good and so accurate,
- 2:30:37Speaker 3: and he just ran through Chrisleban in the first round.
- 2:30:40Speaker 3: I was like called it. Because there's certain fights where
- 2:30:43Speaker 3: you like, this guy's special, like Ilio Taporia, Like if
- 2:30:46Speaker 3: Ilia Taporia is fighting a regular guy, like, bet the
- 2:30:49Speaker 3: house on the Spaniard, bet the house, like that guy's special.
- 2:30:54Speaker 3: There's like when Alex Pereira first came to the UFC,
- 2:30:56Speaker 3: I was telling everybody, bet the house on the Brazilian.
- 2:31:00Speaker 3: I'm like, if he touches you, you go into orbit. Yeah,
- 2:31:03Speaker 3: Like he's just different.
- 2:31:04Speaker 2: This is a different guy, and you just have to
- 2:31:06Speaker 2: know about that before the bookis.
- 2:31:07Speaker 3: Yea, yea yeah. But people knew about Pereira sort of,
- 2:31:11Speaker 3: but they didn't have a lot of evidence of him
- 2:31:13Speaker 3: being that good in MMA. They had one fight in
- 2:31:15Speaker 3: the LFA. There was another fight before that where he
- 2:31:17Speaker 3: lost by submission. I think maybe he had one other win,
- 2:31:21Speaker 3: but it was the kickboxing. So I'm a big kickboxing fan.
- 2:31:24Speaker 3: And in kickboxing he was a two division world champion
- 2:31:27Speaker 3: in Glory, which is like the elite kickboxing league. But
- 2:31:31Speaker 3: the thing wasn't that he was winning, it was how
- 2:31:34Speaker 3: he was winning. Yeah, he was flatlining people.
- 2:31:37Speaker 2: You have to have actually watched the fight.
- 2:31:38Speaker 3: Ye get that, you'd have to watch. You have to
- 2:31:40Speaker 3: also be able to critically analyze his movements. They're just different.
- 2:31:46Speaker 3: He's just doing something. He moves different than people. And
- 2:31:49Speaker 3: the way when he hits guys, it's like, holy shit, man. Yeah,
- 2:31:53Speaker 3: they can all knock each other out. They're all elite fighters.
- 2:31:56Speaker 2: I watched that Olive verifyt and I was Knight's team
- 2:32:02Speaker 2: in uh in San Jose. Someone says, this man's the
- 2:32:05Speaker 2: man who knocked him out. He's like this punch is incredible.
- 2:32:08Speaker 2: No one knows this. Like within that they were all
- 2:32:11Speaker 2: saying like, this is an easy and Oliver's gonna lose
- 2:32:14Speaker 2: because if this man's and then when he hits him
- 2:32:16Speaker 2: in the head, you go because he knocks him out
- 2:32:18Speaker 2: on the first punch and then catches him on the
- 2:32:20Speaker 2: second and hits him twice after that. But it's like
- 2:32:22Speaker 2: if you just well, I don't know about fighting, and
- 2:32:24Speaker 2: then watching that, I couldn't believe he was knocked out
- 2:32:25Speaker 2: fro him. It didn't look like it should have had
- 2:32:28Speaker 2: that impact.
- 2:32:29Speaker 3: Oh it should for sure. Yeah, when you watch the
- 2:32:31Speaker 3: punch being delivered in slow motion, it looks everything like
- 2:32:34Speaker 3: a knockout punch. He throws his punches with so much conviction,
- 2:32:39Speaker 3: there's so much torque, and they're so perfect.
- 2:32:41Speaker 2: Like his whole body pace is coming in.
- 2:32:43Speaker 3: It's the the coordination of the mechanics of his movements.
- 2:32:48Speaker 3: It's like that's a big part of He also has
- 2:32:50Speaker 3: very big fists, but that's a big part, especially for
- 2:32:53Speaker 3: one forty five, and even in one fifty five, like
- 2:32:56Speaker 3: he's undersized compared to like guys like Roofie who's like
- 2:33:00Speaker 3: six two. It's like some elite guys that are big
- 2:33:02Speaker 3: in that weight class, but the way he delivers his punches,
- 2:33:06Speaker 3: it's like you just can't get hit by him.
- 2:33:08Speaker 1: Man.
- 2:33:09Speaker 3: He's got so much commitment and so the timing is
- 2:33:12Speaker 3: so perfect. When he went blam with that right hand, Yeah,
- 2:33:16Speaker 3: I added everything on it. No one's eating that shot,
- 2:33:19Speaker 3: no one, no one. He's got the what Farasa Hobby
- 2:33:22Speaker 3: likes to call the touch of death. It's a perfect
- 2:33:25Speaker 3: name for it because like he hits guys, they're just done, man,
- 2:33:28Speaker 3: They're done.
- 2:33:29Speaker 2: That seems.
- 2:33:30Speaker 3: He's got the greatest three fight win streak in the
- 2:33:33Speaker 3: history of the sport. He knocks out Alexander Volkanowski, Max
- 2:33:39Speaker 3: Holloway and then Charles Olivera. It's the greatest three fight
- 2:33:42Speaker 3: win streak in the history of the sport.
- 2:33:44Speaker 2: Volkowski's currently the champ, so he is.
- 2:33:46Speaker 3: Now doing He came back, but that's at forty five though. Okay,
- 2:33:50Speaker 3: so he went up to fifty five. So Volkanovsky's a
- 2:33:52Speaker 3: champ because he abandoned the belt at forty five because
- 2:33:55Speaker 3: he wanted to pursue the belt at fifty five. He
- 2:33:56Speaker 3: didn't want to make weight at ilia, didn't want to
- 2:33:59Speaker 3: make one forty five more so it felt it's too
- 2:34:00Speaker 3: draining for his body and he'd be even better at
- 2:34:03Speaker 3: fifty five. Turns out he's right, he's even better at
- 2:34:06Speaker 3: fifty five. Like Charles Lavera is really good man. Really
- 2:34:10Speaker 3: good for him was to starch him like that with
- 2:34:14Speaker 3: essentially one punch is it's extraordinary. But he called it,
- 2:34:18Speaker 3: which is even crazier.
- 2:34:19Speaker 2: He said, I'm gonna knock him out with you Hi, knock.
- 2:34:21Speaker 3: Him out in the first round. And he also he
- 2:34:23Speaker 3: had a celebration for his victory the night before the fight,
- 2:34:27Speaker 3: so he went to a restaurant. He's standing on a bench.
- 2:34:29Speaker 3: They're cheering.
- 2:34:32Speaker 2: It worked.
- 2:34:32Speaker 3: I mean, listen, if you're that good and.
- 2:34:34Speaker 2: He's gonna fight the Scassa Thescassa kept saying yeah, Gas
- 2:34:39Speaker 2: kept going I want him and then knights to him
- 2:34:40Speaker 2: and going like he thinks he wants him, he doesn't
- 2:34:42Speaker 2: want him.
- 2:34:42Speaker 3: It'll probably happen eventually because they hate each other and
- 2:34:45Speaker 3: it'd be very marketable. I don't know if it's going
- 2:34:47Speaker 3: to happen.
- 2:34:48Speaker 2: Next this fist you're calling it, I'm stutting that. My
- 2:34:50Speaker 2: brother watches it a lot.
- 2:34:52Speaker 3: There's a lot of really good guys at one fifty five. Though,
- 2:34:54Speaker 3: if you wanted to look, if you wanted to do
- 2:34:56Speaker 3: it according to like, who deserves the shot, it would
- 2:35:01Speaker 3: be in my mind it would be either Justin Gaigie,
- 2:35:03Speaker 3: who is a very compelling argument for deserving the shot.
- 2:35:07Speaker 3: He was the interim champion, beat the shit. He essentially
- 2:35:11Speaker 3: like changed the progression of Tony Ferguson's career like that
- 2:35:15Speaker 3: one just beat him down. Man. It was a brutal,
- 2:35:20Speaker 3: brutal fight. And then you know, I mean, he's got
- 2:35:23Speaker 3: so many victories. He just beat Phaziv again after getting
- 2:35:26Speaker 3: knocked out by Holloway. He's one of the best of
- 2:35:28Speaker 3: the best. And you know he's fought for the title
- 2:35:31Speaker 3: before he fought Uh, he fought Kabeb. He's fucking really
- 2:35:37Speaker 3: good man. But what would start and he's a big
- 2:35:39Speaker 3: star and he also deserves it. The other guy would
- 2:35:41Speaker 3: be Armand Serukian. Armand Sarukian was supposed to fight Islam
- 2:35:45Speaker 3: for the title but got a back injury supposedly during
- 2:35:49Speaker 3: because of the weight cut. He had a particularly brutal
- 2:35:51Speaker 3: weight cut and his back locked up to the point
- 2:35:53Speaker 3: we couldn't even fucking move, and so they had to
- 2:35:55Speaker 3: call the fight. Yeah, and so then they brought in
- 2:35:57Speaker 3: Hanatamikano and he fought for the title like last minute placement.
- 2:36:01Speaker 3: So Sarukian is elite. He's as good as it gets.
- 2:36:04Speaker 3: He could be a world champion. And so if if
- 2:36:08Speaker 3: I wanted to do it according to not marketability, but
- 2:36:12Speaker 3: rather like who deserves it, it would be either Gaygee
- 2:36:14Speaker 3: or Sarukian.
- 2:36:16Speaker 2: Houseman, does that come into it as opposed to the marketability, don't?
- 2:36:19Speaker 3: I don't do that, man, That's the thing. It's like,
- 2:36:21Speaker 3: I'm not involved. I would not be the right guy
- 2:36:23Speaker 3: for the business. Yeah, because like I would, I would.
- 2:36:27Speaker 3: I'm kind of a purist. I feel like if you're
- 2:36:29Speaker 3: the number one contender, you get the shot. That's how
- 2:36:31Speaker 3: I feel. But I also don't know if I agree
- 2:36:35Speaker 3: who the number one contender is all the time. I
- 2:36:37Speaker 3: think like that should be up for debate, Like it's
- 2:36:40Speaker 3: very subjective, like who decides, like what victories count for
- 2:36:43Speaker 3: more or who would be more compelling to fight for
- 2:36:46Speaker 3: the title, who deserves it? Like some guys have to
- 2:36:49Speaker 3: fight a ton of guys and then other guys like Pereira,
- 2:36:51Speaker 3: he got a shot at Adasanya, like just a few fights.
- 2:36:54Speaker 2: In Yeah, but this is what then kills. This hurts
- 2:36:57Speaker 2: boxing is when like you have a champ who just
- 2:37:00Speaker 2: repeatedly takes on people that they can walk over to extend.
- 2:37:03Speaker 2: There's a little bit of that history, but because of
- 2:37:05Speaker 2: the UFC is old. Yeah, it's one thing.
- 2:37:07Speaker 3: The UFC makes you fight the big fights. And if
- 2:37:11Speaker 3: you don't want to fight the big fights, like John
- 2:37:12Speaker 3: Jones didn't want to fight Tom aspinall, like, then they
- 2:37:15Speaker 3: can strip it. Well, he didn't, didn't strip him. John
- 2:37:18Speaker 3: just retired. But I think John just decided to retire legitimately.
- 2:37:21Speaker 3: I think he's you know, he's partying a lot. He
- 2:37:24Speaker 3: had a long career and he's the greatest of all time. Like,
- 2:37:26Speaker 3: at a certain point time you have to say enough.
- 2:37:28Speaker 3: And at thirty seven as the heavyweight champion, retiring undefeated,
- 2:37:32Speaker 3: that's probably a good move. You know, he's got one loss.
- 2:37:35Speaker 3: But it's a bullshit.
- 2:37:36Speaker 2: Have you seen those lights Muhammad Ali interviews where he's
- 2:37:38Speaker 2: going back, he's going back again, and people are begging him,
- 2:37:42Speaker 2: you don't have to do this. It's over. It's fine
- 2:37:44Speaker 2: that it's over. You're the greatest, that's fine, money man.
- 2:37:47Speaker 2: How did he not have any money because he got
- 2:37:50Speaker 2: ripped off.
- 2:37:51Speaker 3: He got ripped off. Man, he got ripped off. And
- 2:37:53Speaker 3: a lot of these like wild impulsive dudes, they spend
- 2:37:55Speaker 3: all their money, like Tyson spent hundreds of millions. Yeah,
- 2:37:59Speaker 3: he bought tiger and shit, he was joking around about it.
- 2:38:01Speaker 3: He had Lamborghinis and tigers and mansions. You know a
- 2:38:04Speaker 3: mansion in Ohio that he just abandoned. Well, it's and
- 2:38:08Speaker 3: like you could go, like there was an online tour
- 2:38:10Speaker 3: of this mansion, and you can go and like online
- 2:38:13Speaker 3: like someone broke into the mansion took photos of it
- 2:38:16Speaker 3: and everything.
- 2:38:16Speaker 2: There's a guy who did that with Kanye's mansion in
- 2:38:19Speaker 2: la Recently, there's an Aussie. He's written a book about
- 2:38:22Speaker 2: John Saffran, who's one of that best. Yeah, he wrote
- 2:38:25Speaker 2: a book about trespassed. He wrote a book about squatting
- 2:38:28Speaker 2: in Kanye's mansion. He's like, you could just come in
- 2:38:30Speaker 2: through the shrubs at the back and I finished the
- 2:38:32Speaker 2: book seating in Kanye's house. He was always doing wild stuff.
- 2:38:35Speaker 3: He was.
- 2:38:36Speaker 2: He was a filmmaker. He like ran naked through the
- 2:38:38Speaker 2: streets of Jerusalem. I think Jesus, what else did he
- 2:38:41Speaker 2: got crucified in the Philippines.
- 2:38:43Speaker 3: Crucified like on a cross.
- 2:38:45Speaker 2: Yeah, like at East did they they ritually they really
- 2:38:47Speaker 2: drive nails three hands, But they crucified people in the Philippines.
- 2:38:50Speaker 3: Yeah, he did that.
- 2:38:51Speaker 2: He did that. He went and got for the end
- 2:38:53Speaker 2: for the season finale of one of his shows. He
- 2:38:54Speaker 2: got crucified in the Philippines.
- 2:38:55Speaker 3: Oh my god, what a fucking nut.
- 2:38:57Speaker 2: He's wild, He's very exciting. What's his name, John Saffran, Yeah,
- 2:39:01Speaker 2: he is the man.
- 2:39:02Speaker 3: He has a good podcast.
- 2:39:04Speaker 2: He stole a lot of Eurasian women's underpants to see
- 2:39:07Speaker 2: if he liked the smell of them better.
- 2:39:08Speaker 3: Oh fuck this guy? Why stealing chicks underwear?
- 2:39:12Speaker 2: And then he like he took other underpants that were
- 2:39:14Speaker 2: not Eurasian to see if he was attracted to Eurasian
- 2:39:17Speaker 2: friends underpants.
- 2:39:18Speaker 3: Jewish Australian comedian journalist. That's a lot. Yeah, I spent
- 2:39:22Speaker 3: a week living in one of West homes in Los Angeles.
- 2:39:25Speaker 3: This what do as if Kanye didn't hate Jews enough?
- 2:39:29Speaker 2: Well, I've never heard him speak on this. I've never
- 2:39:31Speaker 2: heard him speak on John.
- 2:39:34Speaker 3: That the Jewish guys that goes squatted in his house.
- 2:39:37Speaker 3: I think he was like that hilarious.
- 2:39:39Speaker 2: No, he's wild.
- 2:39:42Speaker 3: Yeah, he was crazy.
- 2:39:44Speaker 2: Now he's writting books, but he's yeah. His documentary series
- 2:39:46Speaker 2: were great. He was in a show called Race around
- 2:39:48Speaker 2: the World and everyone else would like take it very seriously.
- 2:39:50Speaker 2: They had like six aspiring filmmakers.
- 2:39:52Speaker 3: You know what the nuttiest spending of money was was
- 2:39:55Speaker 3: Evander Evander Holyfield, who was the heavyweight champion of the world.
- 2:39:59Speaker 3: He made the biggest fucking house. It was an insanely
- 2:40:04Speaker 3: huge house and then uh, I think he sold it
- 2:40:07Speaker 3: to Rick Ross the wrapper, but it's the house is insane.
- 2:40:11Speaker 2: I don't know how much it cost.
- 2:40:13Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know how much it cost. I
- 2:40:15Speaker 3: would I don't even want to guess. But it's craziest
- 2:40:18Speaker 3: house I've ever seen in my life. It's like a
- 2:40:20Speaker 3: house that you would say, if I'm the baddest motherfucker
- 2:40:22Speaker 3: on Earth, I don't want the baddest fucking house on Earth.
- 2:40:25Speaker 3: He's a Vander Holyfield.
- 2:40:27Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 2:40:27Speaker 3: You don't know who Vander Holyfield is. Oh my god,
- 2:40:29Speaker 3: one of the greatest heavyweights of all beat Mike Tyson.
- 2:40:34Speaker 3: Vander Holyfield beat Mike Tyson when he was Tyson. He
- 2:40:37Speaker 3: knocked him out.
- 2:40:38Speaker 2: He stopped him and then he went.
- 2:40:40Speaker 3: And then Mike Tyson bit his ear off. It was
- 2:40:42Speaker 3: the second the earbiting guy. That was the second That
- 2:40:45Speaker 3: was after Tyson beat him up in the first fight,
- 2:40:47Speaker 3: and the second fight he bit his ear.
- 2:40:48Speaker 2: Was he losing the second fight?
- 2:40:50Speaker 3: Tyson was losing? Okay, that's right, yeah, but show show
- 2:40:53Speaker 3: vander Holyfield's house. Look at this place bro forty four thousand,
- 2:40:59Speaker 3: two hundred thirty four square feet and has one hundred
- 2:41:02Speaker 3: and nine rooms, including one hundred and thirty thirty five
- 2:41:06Speaker 3: foot excuse me, one hundred and thirty five seat theater,
- 2:41:09Speaker 3: a bowling alley, and a dining room that accommodates one
- 2:41:12Speaker 3: hundred people. Where is it so large? They named the
- 2:41:16Speaker 3: highway on which it sits a vander Holyfield Highway. That's crazy,
- 2:41:20Speaker 3: that's it.
- 2:41:21Speaker 2: That's I thought it would be bad.
- 2:41:23Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, it's gorgeous. It cost two
- 2:41:26Speaker 3: hundred estimated worth of two hundred and thirty million in
- 2:41:31Speaker 3: ninety four.
- 2:41:32Speaker 2: That the wood paneling in ninety four.
- 2:41:35Speaker 3: Around that time, he had an estimate excuse me, around
- 2:41:38Speaker 3: that time, he had an estimated worth of two hundred
- 2:41:40Speaker 3: and thirty million. Uh, it's it's an amazing house. I
- 2:41:44Speaker 3: mean it's fucking spectacular. And now Rick Ross, the rapper,
- 2:41:47Speaker 3: lives there, which is like the perfect wrapper house I
- 2:41:49Speaker 3: spend it on. But see if you can give it. Oh,
- 2:41:52Speaker 3: it's gorgeous, it's and it's a giant piece of land too.
- 2:41:55Speaker 3: I think it's one hundred one hundred and five acres.
- 2:41:59Speaker 3: See if you can said it an image of it
- 2:42:00Speaker 3: from the Yeah, that one way you see, Like, look
- 2:42:02Speaker 3: at that Georgia Jabson. If you're a vander Holyfield, that's
- 2:42:06Speaker 3: kind of how you want to live in when you're
- 2:42:07Speaker 3: the baddest motherfucker alive. Look at that place, so beautiful.
- 2:42:11Speaker 2: I get hung up. Yeah, the yachts, I like looking
- 2:42:16Speaker 2: at the super yachts. Look looking at Jeff Bezosuper.
- 2:42:19Speaker 3: Oh they're nuts. But this house is fucking incredible.
- 2:42:21Speaker 2: You'd feel so lonely across by buffaloes and you have your.
- 2:42:25Speaker 3: Friends living there. Yeah, but you have buffaloes. That's cool.
- 2:42:30Speaker 3: He's got his own buffaloes. That dope as fuck. That's
- 2:42:33Speaker 3: such a rapper move, have your own buffaloes on your property.
- 2:42:37Speaker 3: I love it. Rick Ross thanks his neighbors for helping
- 2:42:40Speaker 3: him return his buffaloes, buffalos just hanging out. They wandered over,
- 2:42:47Speaker 3: helping him return his wander buffaloes. He had to hire
- 2:42:49Speaker 3: some cowboys to bring his animals back home.
- 2:42:53Speaker 2: Yeah, no one needs that.
- 2:42:55Speaker 3: Why not? Maybe you do, Maybe if you become fucking
- 2:42:58Speaker 3: huge and you start doing arena in America. And he
- 2:43:00Speaker 3: developed an insane amount of money and a sudden you
- 2:43:02Speaker 3: got your.
- 2:43:02Speaker 2: Rafts at your house and I hadn't say that, What
- 2:43:06Speaker 2: the fuck?
- 2:43:06Speaker 3: I thought you weren't going to go full Rick Ross?
- 2:43:08Speaker 2: No, I mean I would. I feel very lucky that
- 2:43:12Speaker 2: I got to open for Shying and he lives very humbly. Yeah,
- 2:43:16Speaker 2: but you're like Matt still drives his old car.
- 2:43:18Speaker 3: You getting a big fancy cut, You're gonna go crazy.
- 2:43:20Speaker 3: I would like a roll for Shane lives humbly, but
- 2:43:22Speaker 3: he's also got a Mercedes S Class.
- 2:43:24Speaker 5: He This is Mike Tyson. They got abandoned Giant TV.
- 2:43:29Speaker 5: Somebody broke Yeah, they broke the mean, it was abandoned
- 2:43:31Speaker 5: for a long time. They broke all the ship.
- 2:43:33Speaker 3: That's crazy. So people just would break into his house
- 2:43:35Speaker 3: when he wasn't there. So did he just leave it
- 2:43:38Speaker 3: there or did he.
- 2:43:40Speaker 5: Just well, I mean, he probably trying to sell it
- 2:43:42Speaker 5: and no one bought it, so that makes it abandon
- 2:43:44Speaker 5: you know.
- 2:43:45Speaker 2: I think Michael Jordan's house, he selled it a lost
- 2:43:47Speaker 2: because of everything he'd done to it.
- 2:43:49Speaker 5: Some guy just actually bought it.
- 2:43:50Speaker 2: And second in Airbnb he tried to take the shoe
- 2:43:52Speaker 2: gate off. He'd like the gate was a pair of
- 2:43:54Speaker 2: Jordan's with him.
- 2:43:55Speaker 3: That house is only worth one point one million. That's
- 2:43:58Speaker 3: how crazy After it's for that's a steal. Oh after
- 2:44:00Speaker 3: it's out for how much work you have to do
- 2:44:02Speaker 3: to fix it? Back, bro, if I lived in that
- 2:44:04Speaker 3: town and I found out Mike Tyson's house is for sale,
- 2:44:07Speaker 3: I'd be like, let's go. There's been a lot of
- 2:44:09Speaker 3: let's go, you think so in Ohio in the abandoned
- 2:44:12Speaker 3: abandon mansion. But I'll just use some siege. I'll clear that.
- 2:44:16Speaker 2: Out of there. Someone did sage last night backstage.
- 2:44:19Speaker 3: He left.
- 2:44:20Speaker 2: There was an odor backstage last night, and I came
- 2:44:22Speaker 2: up stage and yeah, burned sage. I didn't know there
- 2:44:27Speaker 2: was a big stage.
- 2:44:27Speaker 3: If someone evil in the room, I.
- 2:44:29Speaker 2: Think someone might have just I won't I won't name
- 2:44:32Speaker 2: who it was, but someone might have lifted a terrible smell.
- 2:44:36Speaker 2: I think someone was That.
- 2:44:38Speaker 3: Definitely happens in that room. It was a lot of
- 2:44:39Speaker 3: people eating weird food that gets delivered to that room.
- 2:44:43Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I oh, Man Camp Patison, I don't
- 2:44:47Speaker 2: want to I should have said just a guy. I
- 2:44:49Speaker 2: shouldn't have edited as camp Paison when No, when he headlined,
- 2:44:53Speaker 2: he bought like he brought like enough fried chicken for
- 2:44:56Speaker 2: fifty people and it was just me and he's in hole.
- 2:45:00Speaker 2: It was like one of the first times I was
- 2:45:01Speaker 2: hanging out with all black people in America.
- 2:45:03Speaker 3: Just quietly was he Gusses? Did they get it from Gusses?
- 2:45:06Speaker 2: It was like, no, I don't know where it was from.
- 2:45:08Speaker 2: It was huge and it was beautiful, and I thought
- 2:45:10Speaker 2: I didn't know we had to do that in headlining.
- 2:45:13Speaker 2: Do we have to get food for everybody?
- 2:45:14Speaker 3: No, definitely you can. If you ever want a headline
- 2:45:18Speaker 3: there there will order your food.
- 2:45:20Speaker 2: Well, man, I have had good meals in their green room.
- 2:45:23Speaker 3: Yeah, we too. We get Terry Black's delivered. We'd have
- 2:45:27Speaker 3: not a damned chance, not a damn chance Burgers.
- 2:45:29Speaker 2: Brian Simpson ordered ramen and didn't want to eat the eggs,
- 2:45:32Speaker 2: and as I looked at me funny for eating it.
- 2:45:34Speaker 2: He said, I don't want these, and I said, I
- 2:45:36Speaker 2: eat them.
- 2:45:37Speaker 3: Why not.
- 2:45:37Speaker 2: There's also it's kind of a food. There's a pizza
- 2:45:39Speaker 2: place next door's Chick fil a way down the road.
- 2:45:42Speaker 3: It's a really good taco truck up the street too, and.
- 2:45:44Speaker 2: The diddy dog is good. There's a lot of things
- 2:45:46Speaker 2: in vans, but I am more suspicious of eating out
- 2:45:49Speaker 2: of trucks and vans now than I used to be. Enough.
- 2:45:52Speaker 2: What I like is the Mexican's doing the weird hot
- 2:45:54Speaker 2: dogs with like what They've got huge onions and capsicum.
- 2:45:59Speaker 3: Oh yeah, hot cescary, I love.
- 2:46:03Speaker 2: I just like those men with like a thousand things
- 2:46:06Speaker 2: on a little hot plate. There's less of them now
- 2:46:08Speaker 2: there than they used to be. Well, who can say why.
- 2:46:10Speaker 3: I hope they can't come back. Let's see.
- 2:46:15Speaker 2: It's a That was what I'd always like. There was
- 2:46:19Speaker 2: always a contingent of the American, like people chatting on
- 2:46:22Speaker 2: cable news who would say that illegal immigration wasn't a
- 2:46:24Speaker 2: huge thing and that people were inflating the numbers. And
- 2:46:27Speaker 2: then when I got here and no one warned me,
- 2:46:30Speaker 2: but I was like setting up a house and I
- 2:46:31Speaker 2: went to a home depot in the morning, and it
- 2:46:33Speaker 2: was like it was like one hundred and fifty guys
- 2:46:37Speaker 2: just out there. This, I mean, this is old hat
- 2:46:39Speaker 2: and Americans don't talk about it anymore because you've just
- 2:46:41Speaker 2: all known for decades this is what happens at front
- 2:46:44Speaker 2: of a home depot.
- 2:46:45Speaker 3: Especially LA. If you go to LA, it was it
- 2:46:48Speaker 3: was way higher numbers in LA. I think Texas actually
- 2:46:50Speaker 3: has some pretty high numbers too, though. They just they
- 2:46:53Speaker 3: have to figure out a pathway to citizenship for these
- 2:46:56Speaker 3: sacks and amnesty for people that have been here in.
- 2:46:58Speaker 2: Estalliuh pet me in the front door is a bitch, Yeah,
- 2:47:01Speaker 2: it's And also.
- 2:47:03Speaker 3: A lot of those people are good people, good people,
- 2:47:05Speaker 3: hard workers.
- 2:47:06Speaker 2: What I liked is that the Humbrase that front of
- 2:47:08Speaker 2: the hum depot, a lot of them were like pro
- 2:47:10Speaker 2: American gea, like big American hats and told eagle shits
- 2:47:13Speaker 2: and things. It's like, I'm going to be the most
- 2:47:15Speaker 2: pro American.
- 2:47:16Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, they just need a pathway. Let's make sure
- 2:47:18Speaker 3: that they're not cartel members and criminals and murderers.
- 2:47:21Speaker 2: It seems easy.
- 2:47:22Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems like it's doable. And it's also they're valuable,
- 2:47:26Speaker 3: like these are people that come over here with ambition
- 2:47:29Speaker 3: and that's what this country wants.
- 2:47:32Speaker 2: So like, I think if you polled Americans, like huge
- 2:47:35Speaker 2: numbers of people would support that.
- 2:47:37Speaker 3: I agree.
- 2:47:38Speaker 2: So why doesn't Anybody's good question? Why can't anybody get
- 2:47:41Speaker 2: it together?
- 2:47:41Speaker 3: Well, the thing is it was I think it's an
- 2:47:44Speaker 3: over correction because it was so bad for the last
- 2:47:46Speaker 3: four years where they had an open border. Yeah, they
- 2:47:48Speaker 3: were encouraging people to come in, they were encouraging people
- 2:47:51Speaker 3: that were helping people, they were moving people to swing states.
- 2:47:54Speaker 3: The problem is when you.
- 2:47:56Speaker 2: Have I wish the fedimen one where he was going, Yeah,
- 2:48:00Speaker 2: I mean, what's what you gotta do?
- 2:48:01Speaker 3: Yeah, it's is crazy. It's crazy because the thing is,
- 2:48:04Speaker 3: it affects elections in more ways than one, even if
- 2:48:07Speaker 3: they can't vote. It affects the amount of congressional seats. Yeah,
- 2:48:10Speaker 3: dependent upon the population, regardless of whether that population is
- 2:48:13Speaker 3: legal or illegal. So if you have twenty million people
- 2:48:16Speaker 3: in a place, you get a certain amount of congressions.
- 2:48:18Speaker 2: Godless.
- 2:48:19Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's where things get weird. That's the
- 2:48:22Speaker 3: reality of politics in America. And they wanted to stop that,
- 2:48:26Speaker 3: and the Democrats did not. Democrats wanted that to keep going.
- 2:48:29Speaker 3: That was one of the things that Trump ran on.
- 2:48:32Speaker 2: But then also he gets in he's like, can we
- 2:48:33Speaker 2: get the white seth Africans out of here immediately? Can
- 2:48:36Speaker 2: we move a million white seth Africans to Arizona too?
- 2:48:39Speaker 3: Right, because like what you're bringing them in, but you're
- 2:48:41Speaker 3: not bringing the persecuted Mexicans in, Like.
- 2:48:45Speaker 2: It seems like a pathway would be. But it's also
- 2:48:47Speaker 2: like the things I had to.
- 2:48:48Speaker 3: Do to Africa thing is nuts man, the South Africa thing,
- 2:48:51Speaker 3: the killing of the farmers, like people want to deny
- 2:48:54Speaker 3: that that exists.
- 2:48:54Speaker 2: I have seen the rally to kill the ball, kill
- 2:48:58Speaker 2: the farming it I was saying. Because I was saying,
- 2:49:04Speaker 2: I said, right with his cold dead eyes, he's a
- 2:49:08Speaker 2: spooky cat. Yeah, I forget his name. He's uh yeah, Yeah,
- 2:49:12Speaker 2: they got some things to sort.
- 2:49:14Speaker 3: Indeed, well, listen, sorry in America, that's a terrible not
- 2:49:19Speaker 3: to go out on. Johnny Johnny Bone said, I just
- 2:49:22Speaker 3: re entered the testing pool that lasted about two weeks.
- 2:49:25Speaker 3: Figured we keep everyone's options open.
- 2:49:27Speaker 5: A lot of the fighters are tweeting right now they're
- 2:49:28Speaker 5: very excited about fighting on the White House lawn.
- 2:49:30Speaker 3: Oh, that's right, fight on the White House six, White
- 2:49:35Speaker 3: House lawn. I knew about it. I kept it under
- 2:49:37Speaker 3: my hand for months.
- 2:49:39Speaker 2: Sorry, people, they're gonna fight in the Rose.
- 2:49:41Speaker 3: God, they're gonna fight on the White House lawn. Twenty
- 2:49:44Speaker 3: thousand people, twenty five thousand connors in. It's the Yeah.
- 2:49:48Speaker 5: He says he's gonna be the president of Ireland by
- 2:49:50Speaker 5: that next year.
- 2:49:53Speaker 2: He's chosen. No, we had time to run. Yeah, but
- 2:49:56Speaker 2: the world's weird.
- 2:49:57Speaker 3: McKenna. I have you to death, brother, Thank you for
- 2:49:59Speaker 3: being here. Thank you so I appreciate. It's been awesome
- 2:50:01Speaker 3: having your round the right time. You're you're a fucking
- 2:50:03Speaker 3: great guy.
- 2:50:03Speaker 2: And I said anything crazy, I mean it.
- 2:50:05Speaker 3: You're very very funny too. And if anyone hasn't seen you,
- 2:50:07Speaker 3: you stand up, go see. I can't recommend you enough.
- 2:50:10Speaker 2: You've changed my life. Can I say something touching at
- 2:50:12Speaker 2: the end? Okay, all right? I was, I mean, I
- 2:50:15Speaker 2: was poor, no opportunities. I got past it that club
- 2:50:20Speaker 2: and it's revolutionized. I get to pay my rent on time,
- 2:50:23Speaker 2: I get to do comedy often and people are nice
- 2:50:26Speaker 2: about it. This is it's been very very strange, and
- 2:50:30Speaker 2: I couldn't have done it if you had seen that
- 2:50:31Speaker 2: club up.
- 2:50:32Speaker 3: I appreciate that very much. And that's the whole reason
- 2:50:34Speaker 3: why we set it up the way we set it
- 2:50:35Speaker 3: up in the first place. Wanted to make it a
- 2:50:37Speaker 3: place where that can happen. And like I said about
- 2:50:40Speaker 3: like open micros that are good, they just never saw
- 2:50:42Speaker 3: a path and couldn't figure it out. I think we
- 2:50:45Speaker 3: can save some of those people in the future, you know,
- 2:50:47Speaker 3: I think we could make we can lessen the attrition rate,
- 2:50:50Speaker 3: and we can make better comics. Yeah, and make it
- 2:50:53Speaker 3: a real supportive community, which is what we're really doing.
- 2:50:56Speaker 3: And you know that was the whole goal of the place,
- 2:50:59Speaker 3: just to make the best club possible, and the best
- 2:51:01Speaker 3: club possible has to have development. You have to have
- 2:51:04Speaker 3: people coming up that are really good. It's like that's
- 2:51:07Speaker 3: the key that a lot of these like improvs and
- 2:51:10Speaker 3: stuff they miss.
- 2:51:11Speaker 2: They don't have like a night where you can just
- 2:51:13Speaker 2: a bunch of people are doing fifteen minutes.
- 2:51:15Speaker 3: They don't develop a local community, and so they only
- 2:51:17Speaker 3: rely on the headliners to come in on the weekend
- 2:51:19Speaker 3: and the rest of the shows you have various headliners
- 2:51:21Speaker 3: do one night or two nights or something like that,
- 2:51:23Speaker 3: which is fine occasionally, but the reality is you want
- 2:51:27Speaker 3: a vibrant development community, and if you don't have that,
- 2:51:31Speaker 3: you're not gonna get new talent. You're only gonna have
- 2:51:33Speaker 3: import talent every week.
- 2:51:34Speaker 2: There's three cities in all of America where you can
- 2:51:37Speaker 2: reliably do it too. Yeah, this has changed.
- 2:51:41Speaker 3: Yeah, and.
- 2:51:42Speaker 2: Shane brought me over here. I want to shut him
- 2:51:45Speaker 2: out because I was in Ohio. I was having a
- 2:51:48Speaker 2: good time.
- 2:51:49Speaker 3: But that was no.
- 2:51:52Speaker 2: There was nothing happened for me. And then the fact
- 2:51:54Speaker 2: that there is a place that you can come and
- 2:51:55Speaker 2: if you're gonna work hard and do it well, I mean,
- 2:51:58Speaker 2: that's insane.
- 2:51:58Speaker 3: It's awesome. Ah.
- 2:52:00Speaker 2: I don't want to go on about it.
- 2:52:00Speaker 3: We're happy to have you, brother.
- 2:52:02Speaker 2: I'm very touched. Thank you, God brace you.
- 2:52:03Speaker 3: Tell everybody your instagrams that can follow you.
- 2:52:06Speaker 2: At j D F McCann The James Donald Fools McCann
- 2:52:09Speaker 2: Catamaran Plan. That's a great podcast that everybody should check out.
- 2:52:14Speaker 2: I think it's of poems. That's it, Okay, all right, hey,
- 2:52:17Speaker 2: thanks
- 2:52:18Speaker 3: Thank you, bye everybody.