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- 0:00Lewis Bender: It would have been a tremendous regret to have never tried; much worse than trying and failing.
- 0:11Lewis Bender: Much worse.
- 0:13John Simboli: That's the voice of Lew is Bender, founder and CEO of Intensity Therapeutics.
- 0:19John Simboli: Listen in now to hear my conversation with Lew at the Intensity headquarters in Westport, Connecticut.
- 0:25John Simboli: I'm John Simboli.
- 0:27John Simboli: You're listening to BioBoss.
- 0:28John Simboli: This afternoon.
- 0:31John Simboli: I'm in Westport, Connecticut at the headquarters of Intensity therapeutics with Lew bender, founder and CEO of Intensity.
- 0:38John Simboli: Lew, welcome to BioBoss.
- 0:40Lewis Bender: Good afternoon, John.
- 0:41Lewis Bender: Thank you for coming today.
- 0:43John Simboli: How did you find yourself at Intensity?
- 0:44Lewis Bender: I've had a very diverse career over my time since college.
- 0:50Lewis Bender: I've done a lot of different things and lived in different countries and worked in different industries, not just health care.
- 0:57Lewis Bender: And I learned a lot from each of them and I effectively was able to apply some learnings from all aspects of my life to arrive at what I hope to be a very helpful and effective treatment for patients with cancer.
- 1:11John Simboli: And along those lines.
- 1:12John Simboli: Some of the CEOs I've spoken with said,"Yeah, I kind of knew what I wanted to do from early on." And I'd say more than half of them and more than half the founders have said,"No, I couldn't see this coming." Do you fall into either of those categories?
- 1:26Lewis Bender: I don't think when I started my career I could see this coming, that I would come up with an innovative idea to treat cancer.
- 1:35Lewis Bender: But I did see myself as an entrepreneur and I've always wanted to be an entrepreneur.
- 1:44Lewis Bender: It just took me a long time to finally become an entrepreneur, but I always saw myself in some sort of leadership role in that regard.
- 1:52John Simboli: What was it about being a leader or being an entrepreneur that was attractive?
- 1:56John Simboli: Can you remember from those early stages when you said," Yeah, that's what I want to do?
- 2:00John Simboli: Do you remember what it was?
- 2:01Lewis Bender: Well, again, leadership, you know, you don't think"I'm going to be a leader", but you think"This is what I want to do.
- 2:08Lewis Bender: And I have a vision." And I think if you are enthusiastic and you have a vision and you want something to be done, by default, you become a leader.
- 2:20Lewis Bender: And then how good of a leader you are and how effective you can be and how successful you can be stems from your character and what you believe in and how you treat people.
- 2:32Lewis Bender: So you don't go out saying, I'm going to be a leader today.
- 2:35Lewis Bender: You go out saying this is what I want to do.
- 2:38Lewis Bender: And let me explain it to people and hope that they come on board with you.
- 2:44John Simboli: How did you decide you wanted to found this particular company rather than, for instance, take your idea and take it someplace else where there might be a structure in place you could grow it within that?
- 2:54Lewis Bender: Look, you know, you can't bring an idea to some big company.
- 2:59Lewis Bender: Expect them to take you seriously.
- 3:01Lewis Bender: You have to come with data and results and patents something that's g oing t o convince them there's something valuable here.
- 3:09Lewis Bender: So it was never a question that once I had the idea, I had to find ways to create the value that would allow it to be interesting to people and pharmaceutical companies.
- 3:22Lewis Bender: There's no way you could just go with this idea without any, you know, proof of concept, let's say and be a t all taken seriously.
- 3:33Lewis Bender: So you really have to go out and generate the information that's necessary to convince people that you've got something of value.
- 3:40John Simboli: When you first identified that thing that you wanted to take forward and that line of thinking and that scientific approach, and you began to talk to people who might be a part of it, let's say early round investors or others, do you remember what it was, did they say,"Oh, Lew,, that's brilliant?
- 3:56John Simboli: Or did they say"What is that?
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- 3:58Lewis Bender: The people that didn't know anything, who first funded me, who had no bias for or against and just knew who I was—my, my friends and my family—when we showed them the first set of data, they looked at the data for what it said.
- 4:13Lewis Bender: If you talk to the experts or the people who sort of know, they didn't like it at all, they thought it was an old tired idea that had been tried and failed multiple times and wouldn't take the time really to understand and learn what it was that I had really developed that was different than what they thought it was.
- 4:36Lewis Bender: So the people who knew me the best were the ones who really invested and believed in it.
- 4:46Lewis Bender: And the people who knew the industry the best and didn't know me were the ones who were the most skeptical and didn't want to be bothered with something from somebody that wasn't, you know, in the supposedly cancer realm.
- 5:00Lewis Bender: So it's interesting actually when you think about it that the people who knew me trusted it and the people who didn't know me but knew what they thought they knew didn't.
- 5:11Lewis Bender: You know there's going to be skepticism.
- 5:13Lewis Bender: Why is this different than the 15 times where intratumoral delivery has failed before?
- 5:18Lewis Bender: I'm not seeing the big picture is what humans tend to want to do when it's easiest to, you know, you've got 50 things on your plate and you really want to just get an understanding and move on.
- 5:32Lewis Bender: So it's not unexpected.
- 5:33Lewis Bender: That's the way the world works and you just got to deal with it and you can't get upset and you can't.
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- 5:36Lewis Bender: You just got to find ways to work around the problem.
- 5:40John Simboli: There must have been an easier thing to do at that point in your life than to say, I'm going to start a biopharma company.
- 5:45Lewis Bender: I always wanted to be an entrepreneur and I came to the point where I was at the twilight of the opportunities.
- 5:54Lewis Bender: If I didn't do something when I did it, it would have been very to ever do something.
- 5:59Lewis Bender: And I knew I had an idea that.
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- 6:00Lewis Bender: I'm a pretty good engineer, pretty good chemical engineer and I knew that the physics was with me on this technology.
- 6:08Lewis Bender: Ans having that desire and knowing that it was going to be something that's not going to get easily recognized right away, I had no choice because it wouldn't have been easy to do anything other than try it.
- 6:21Lewis Bender: Because you can't come to the end of your life as you've heard me say, thinking you might have had a highly effective treatment for cancer that could have helped hundreds of thousands, if not more, people and never did anything about it.
- 6:35Lewis Bender: It would have been a tremendous regret to have never tried much worse than trying and failing much worse.
- 6:43Lewis Bender: So there was really no choice.
- 6:44Lewis Bender: It was either do it now‚ something that I've always wanted to do and never did.
- 6:49Lewis Bender: Try and fail or never try.
- 6:51Lewis Bender: And I was frankly terrified of never trying.
- 6:54John Simboli: What's a typical day for you?
- 6:56Lewis Bender: What I have to do every day is figure out how to raise the capital to get us to the next level.
- 7:01Lewis Bender: How to continue the programs, how to look at the data, where should we go?
- 7:05Lewis Bender: What does this mean?
- 7:06Lewis Bender: Should we change it?
- 7:07Lewis Bender: Because what we do is not the way drugs are done.
- 7:10Lewis Bender: It's just not the way drugs are typically dosed.
- 7:13Lewis Bender: We have a totally different approach to dosing.
- 7:15Lewis Bender: We have a totally different approach to treating cancer.
- 7:19Lewis Bender: We have to train the doctors, we have to train the sites, we have to train the patients, even, to understand what it is we have.
- 7:25Lewis Bender: And we have to learn ourselves.
- 7:27Lewis Bender: So I'm constantly thinking about how I can communicate better to all of my constituencies.
- 7:32Lewis Bender: What we do and what it is we should do differently to make what we do better.
- 7:40Lewis Bender: So that's a little different.
- 7:42Lewis Bender: This is not, you know, giving IV solution—we don't have that.
- 7:46Lewis Bender: We don't have a dosing based on your height and weight.
- 7:48Lewis Bender: We dose based on the tumor and the cancer and the severity of the disease.
- 7:52Lewis Bender: So it's very different.
- 7:54Lewis Bender: And so we have to do things differently.
- 7:56Lewis Bender: And I"m fortunate that I have a great board and a great set of investors so I can focus on the aspects of what's unique to us.
- 8:05Lewis Bender: The reality of what I'm facing on a day to day to do something that no one's ever done before.
- 8:11Lewis Bender: No one's ever done it well.
- 8:12Lewis Bender: No one's ever done it successfully, that what we're trying to do.
- 8:16John Simboli: Lew, what's new at Intensity Therapeutics?
- 8:18Lewis Bender: 2019 was a great year.
- 8:20Lewis Bender: Without doubt, we achieved some wonderful things.
- 8:23Lewis Bender: We got a fast track designation from FDA for a lead drug for triple negative breast cancer, a highly unmet medical need.
- 8:31Lewis Bender: We signed a very big collaboration with Merck.
- 8:33Lewis Bender: We published with the National Cancer Institute, a joint peer review publication.
- 8:37Lewis Bender: We were selected by the Society of Immunotherapy of Cance, one of the most important cancer organizations, medical organizations, for a podium presentation.
- 8:48Lewis Bender: We've started our study with Merck.
- 8:53Lewis Bender: We've dosed the cohort, the safety cohort.
- 8:56Lewis Bender: Safety looks very good.
- 8:57Lewis Bender: We're having, real good discussions with the doctors.
- 9:01Lewis Bender: The enrollment now is accelerating dramatically.
- 9:04Lewis Bender: Doctors are seeing results with their patients, really good results.
- 9:08Lewis Bender: I mean, the cancers are being shut down, shut down in a number of people.
- 9:11Lewis Bender: Now that we can dose a reasonable dose, we can treat people, we're dosing people with immunotherapies where we know in mice it's synergistic.
- 9:20Lewis Bender: We've got other pharma companies interested in partnering with us.
- 9:24Lewis Bender: It's a great time because I talked to some of these patients, I've met some of these patients and I can see the benefit of what we're doing for these patients on a daily basis.
- 9:37Lewis Bender: And the more patients that we treat, the more people we help.
- 9:42Lewis Bender: And then the more the people get helped, the more doctors put patients in.
- 9:46Lewis Bender: So I think it's a very exciting time for us because we're now at the point where you give this drug into tumors and those tumors, we can see a lot of them now, are dying.
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- 9:56Lewis Bender: don't necessarily go away, but they don't look like they grow and a lot of them shrink.
- 10:03Lewis Bender: So we're seeing a benefit to people and that's very satisfying and we're moving into now later stage development, into phase two studies,, later this year.
- 10:12Lewis Bender: Hopefully additional cancer types will be treated.
- 10:19Lewis Bender: So it's a very exciting time to finally see the culmination of this work starting to really help a lot more patients.than it was when we were dosing very low amounts.
- 10:30Lewis Bender: So it's very satisfying and it's very exciting and it's very new.
- 10:35John Simboli: What is it about your approach that distinguishes it from the way other people tried to take on cancer?
- 10:42Lewis Bender: What we do today is you look at cancer as both a regional disease where you can see the tumors and a systemic disease where you can't see the cells or the tumors that are in the body somewhere.
- 10:54Lewis Bender: So you have this local aspect of it and you have this whole body systemic aspect of it.
- 11:02Lewis Bender: And I think as an engineer you have to treat the big that you can see and you have to treat the small.
- 11:07Lewis Bender: And the big is being treated by, surgery, radiation, ablation where you melt it away or freeze it away.
- 11:16Lewis Bender: And the small is being treated by chemotherapy, targeted therapy or immunotherapy.
- 11:20Lewis Bender: And they're not synergistic per se.
- 11:23Lewis Bender: They don't really work together.
- 11:27Lewis Bender: They work on each component.
- 11:28Lewis Bender: And what we try to do is to make that local approach synergistic with that systemic approach so we try to kill the tumor in a way that they can be now recognized by the immune system.
- 11:40Lewis Bender: We're bringing together the two ways of treating cancer that are discoordinate.
- 11:45Lewis Bender: Patients in our study don't have these horrific side effects.
- 11:49Lewis Bender: They go home the same day that they got treated.
- 11:51Lewis Bender: The tumors stop.
- 11:54Lewis Bender: There's an immune activation going on in many cases and if you can do that effectively and understand it better, I think we're going to have a new era in cancer treatment where it'll be a chronic disease for most people, not a death sentence.
- 12:07Lewis Bender: And the fear, the fear of the disease being equal to the fear of the treatment will both go away.
- 12:15Lewis Bender: You can get people to not fear the disease and not fear the treatment.
- 12:19Lewis Bender: That's the goal.
- 12:20Lewis Bender: Better results without the fear.
- 12:23Lewis Bender: That's what we're trying to do.
- 12:24John Simboli: A certain number of people are going to say,"Oh, I get that Lew, I'm interested.
- 12:28John Simboli: I would like to talk more with you." And a certain number of people are going to come back and say,"Oh, I heard you say".
- 12:33John Simboli: .
- 12:33John Simboli: .
- 12:34John Simboli: , and it actually wasn't what you intended them to hear.
- 12:37John Simboli: But people filter things in funny ways.
- 12:39John Simboli: When they get it filtered and you have to come back and help them,"No it's actually this." What is that conversation like?
- 12:46Lewis Bender: The biggest perception when we tell them what our drug is is, Oh, it's just chemotherapy, old rotgut chemotherapy.
- 12:57Lewis Bender: And while we're using those agents, this is not chemotherapy as your grandmother knew it.
- 13:02Lewis Bender: This is an attenuation of a tumor in a way that keeps its three- dimensional confirmations.
- 13:09Lewis Bender: The diffusion that we bring to the chemotherapy throughout the tumor kills it in a way that makes it still look like cancer or is better looking as cancer.
- 13:19Lewis Bender: And that attenuated tumor converts into a highly recognizable site for the immune system.
- 13:26Lewis Bender: So I try to explain that when they see the product, they don't think chemotherapy, they see the product, they think tumor attenuation, immune activation.
- 13:37Lewis Bender: Attenuation and activation, not poisoning throughout the whole body.
- 13:44Lewis Bender: That's where I'm constantly trying to communicate and to make sure that people understand that what we're doing uses similar elements to what they're familiar with, the agents themselves, but in a completely different way than what's ever been done before.
- 14:01John Simboli: What is it about your approach that allows the immuno response to unmask or to defeat the way that the cancer can evolve or hide itself?
- 14:12Lewis Bender: Well, if you remember, cancer comes from your own cells.
- 14:16Lewis Bender: So the immune system is trained not to harm your own tissue, most times.
- 14:21Lewis Bender: So the idea is try to make the cancer more recognizable to the immune system because the body is normally trained not to attack itself.
- 14:33Lewis Bender: So right now the immunotherapies work mostly in people who have certain markers in their cancer that are high in these particular markers, whatever they are.
- 14:45Lewis Bender: And we're trying to get the cancer to be non-cloaked and recognizable to the immune system as something that's foreign.
- 14:56Lewis Bender: Because there are enough differences in the cancer, in the way it looks and the way it's shaped, the way it grow—that we can, I think, exploit with our technology in order to make it train the immune system more effectively The immune system will go after things in the body and if we can get it to the point where the immune system now is going after the cancer because it's attenuated and no longer cloaking as well, but still looks enough like cancer that's still living elsewhere in the body, we can get this immune response in people that will, I think help a large number of people who no longer, who do not benefit from classical immunotherapy, which is now kind of where all the research is going.
- 15:39Lewis Bender: So the idea—better recognition effectively is what we're trying to achieve.
- 15:43Lewis Bender: To prevent the immune system from being blocked by the cancer.
- 15:49John Simboli: I can imagine someone hearing that and saying, it almost sounds too good to be true.
- 15:53John Simboli: How come someone else didn't do that?
- 15:54John Simboli: I'm sure you've been asked that.
- 15:56John Simboli: How do you answer that?
- 15:58Lewis Bender: I don't know if it sounds too good to be true.
- 15:59Lewis Bender: It's like, show me, more is the attitude.
- 16:01Lewis Bender: But the data speaks for itself and that's what you have to do.
- 16:07Lewis Bender: You have to generate data to convince not just the FDA but the physicians that this is going to benefit their patients, that this is going to give them longer life with better quality of life.
- 16:21Lewis Bender: And it's just that's the data we have to generate.
- 16:24Lewis Bender: It's a show me type of attitude and that's what we're trying to do.
- 16:28Lewis Bender: So I think the idea is we're going to generate the data.
- 16:32Lewis Bender: There's a real good mechanistic reason why this works.
- 16:37Lewis Bender: We've published that and now we're testing it.
- 16:39Lewis Bender: And the data is, it works well, i doesn't work well, or something in between.
- 16:44Lewis Bender: But in between is good enough to get a product that's going to help people.
- 16:49Lewis Bender: And works really well, we'll be a blockbuster product that will help a lot of people and shift the use away from these methods that are not working that well into methods that work well.
- 17:01Lewis Bender: That's the nature of our business and that's everything that you do.
- 17:04Lewis Bender: You generate the data and eventually it comes to the point where the skepticism goes away.
- 17:10Lewis Bender: It has to go away because if it works and helps people, the people are going to want it.
- 17:16Lewis Bender: The doctors are going to want it and everybody else will have to follow along because people are desperate for better solutions.
- 17:21Lewis Bender: The patients with whom I've spoken are desperate for help and their families are desperate and their caregivers are desperate and their doctors are desperat.
- 17:31Lewis Bender: And a better idea will overcome any skepticism or any doubt, but y ou g ot t o generate the data to do it.
- 17:38Lewis Bender: There's no doubt about that.
- 17:40John Simboli: A scientist was asked about the process of finding the thing that he could take forward.
- 17:46John Simboli: He said it, for me, he said, I think, for many scientists, it's not a Eureka thing—I suddenly get it.
- 17:54John Simboli: It's more like"That's funny.
- 17:56John Simboli: That's odd." Do you recall any moments like that as you were thinking about just where,"Huh?"
- 18:00Lewis Bender: I didn't really have that.
- 18:04Lewis Bender: I thought when these immunotherapies were coming that the problem was they can't recognize the cancer.
- 18:10Lewis Bender: And I knew from my experience before that I had a way of killing, I believed, killing tumors in situ by using a diffusion technology.
- 18:19Lewis Bender: So I didn't have this aha moment on the invention, but we had an aha moment when we were looking at the data with the National Cancer Institute.
- 18:32Lewis Bender: And it was like, you know, these tumors continue to go down after three weeks of use, where the drug's half-life is like 20 minutes to an hour and we stopped dosing in three days.
- 18:46Lewis Bender: Why are they continuing to go down?
- 18:48Lewis Bender: And the thinking was, I thought,, are we getting an immune response, just with our drug alone?
- 18:56Lewis Bender: The answer was yes, but that was kind of a"Huh?" Because I didn't really think it would be that potent of stimulating an immune response by not acting on the immune system.
- 19:08Lewis Bender: It's simply gives the immune system a target to go after.
- 19:11Lewis Bender: That was kind of an aha moment because we, at that point we said, well maybe we're seeing immune activation without these immune activating agents being necessary.
- 19:24Lewis Bender: So that was kind of a big aha moment when we started to see that.
- 19:28Lewis Bender: And we've started testing for it.
- 19:30Lewis Bender: And sure enough, we see immune activation without immune activating agents being necessary.
- 19:36Lewis Bender: And then when you add them, they catalyze the immune activation that we already have generated on our own And that could be very exciting if it starts to translate now in people.
- 19:48Lewis Bender: Because we are seeing for our drug alone, in humans, immune activation.
- 19:52Lewis Bender: In several patients we see un-injected tomors going away.
- 19:56Lewis Bender: Distal, very far away from where we injected in many, many cases.
- 20:02Lewis Bender: So that's, that's pretty exciting, that if we had an aha moment, it would be that this is stimulating the immune system without acting directly on the immune system.
- 20:15Lewis Bender: I remember rushing up, my wife was in her sewing room and I said,"Look at this data!"She's like,"What the hell are you talking about?
- 20:22Lewis Bender: Go away, why are you bothering me" I said," Look, it was good and now it's bad and now it's good and now it's bad!" So that's pretty exciting.
- 20:30John Simboli: What can you tell me about the pipeline and how it helps to differentiate who Intensity is?
- 20:35Lewis Bender: I think the pipeline starts off, with most companies, is their first product.
- 20:39Lewis Bender: Then you start to see applications in more than one cancer type.
- 20:42Lewis Bender: So this drug has worked in many, many different cancer types.
- 20:45Lewis Bender: So we're working with our drug in combination with Merck's product, Keytruda.
- 20:51Lewis Bender: We hope to bring on some others and we hope to use it as a monotherapy.
- 20:55Lewis Bender: In addition, we are understanding a lot more about the mechanism by which our drug works and what we might need to do and so we have research going on to build the next, better, Intensity Therapeutics product.
- 21:08Lewis Bender: We have a series of experiments in process.
- 21:11Lewis Bender: We've generated some early data already and we're excited about the fact that we can improve upon our product alone and that's what we're looking to do.
- 21:21Lewis Bender: And hopefully we'll have identified a candidate by the end of the year that we could then bring into further clinical trials.
- 21:27Lewis Bender: So we'd have two very potent agents coming in with new patent life and all this other thing.
- 21:33John Simboli: What kind of partners are a good fit to Intensity?
- 21:36Lewis Bender: There are partners that help us do research, so we partnered with the National Cancer Institute right away when I started this company because I know I didn't have the cancer expertise and they did, it's in their name.
- 21:49Lewis Bender: So, the National Cancer Institute, you figure they know what they're doing and they do, and they did.
- 21:56Lewis Bender: So they were really spectacular in helping, basically, a guy try to pursue an idea and a dream.
- 22:04Lewis Bender: So that's a partner of immense value.
- 22:08Lewis Bender: My staff partner, Ian Walters, he came on and helped us get into the hospitals.
- 22:20Lewis Bender: The hospitals then partnered with us, did tests of an idea, an intratumoral idea.
- 22:25Lewis Bender: So they were our partners there The first hospital that dosed a patient was Princess Margaret.
- 22:30Lewis Bender: We've partnered with USC, we've partnered with Johns Hopkins, we've partnered with Columbia,.
- 22:35Lewis Bender: We've partnered with UMASS.
- 22:37Lewis Bender: We partnered with the Fox Chase Cancer Center who allowed us to talk to some of their patients.
- 22:42Lewis Bender: So all of these are partners and we've partnered with Merck now.
- 22:47Lewis Bender: We have discussions with other big companies.
- 22:50Lewis Bender: Merck has the leading drug in cancer right now, Keytruda, tremendous product.
- 22:56Lewis Bender: We're grateful that decided to help us help patients by combining their expertise with ours.
- 23:04Lewis Bender: So, you know, partnering is a continuum, as you advance what you're doing.
- 23:13Lewis Bender: And so, you know, I partnered with the NCI and the research with Ian, with Merck, with the hospitals, with the doctors and hopefully with more companies, with investors—all of whom I consider my partners and my board.
- 23:25Lewis Bender: They're all partners and we're all trying to do this to do the same thing, which is to help patients and doctors treat patients and their families in a more humane and more effective way.
- 23:38John Simboli: With all the time that's going into understanding the data and, and working with your academic and hospital partners and pharma partners—with all the time that goes into the thinking about your approachh, do you allow yourself, do you still have time at this point rather than whenever months, years from now to think,"I think I can do some good.
- 24:02John Simboli: I think I can really change one life and maybe many lives for the better." Do you have that opportunity or are you're so focused on just.
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- 24:10Lewis Bender: Oh no, no.
- 24:10Lewis Bender: I'm blessed to have been able to meet some of the people we've helped and spoken to them.
- 24:15Lewis Bender: We had a patient who was about to have his arm and shoulder amputated, over two and almost two and a quarter years ago.
- 24:22Lewis Bender: He still has his arm and shoulder.
- 24:24Lewis Bender: I think it's already something that is beyond my wildest dreams of where I ever thought this would go.
- 24:32John Simboli: And do you think that in your hopes it will be a few people whose lives have been changed beyond belief?
- 24:38John Simboli: Or do you think it could be, potentially, more than a few?
- 24:42Lewis Bender: Where medicine is going and where we're hoping to lead it to, it will get to a point where cancer is a chronic disease.
- 24:52Lewis Bender: The average age will move up from 72 at age of death, now, as I believe to way beyond that.
- 24:58Lewis Bender: And younger people will not die.
- 25:02Lewis Bender: People can go to weddings for their kids.
- 25:05Lewis Bender: They can see their kids grow up.
- 25:07Lewis Bender: Men, women, fathers, mothers, brothers, sisters.
- 25:10Lewis Bender: That the age of a cancer death will be remote and old if it happens.
- 25:18Lewis Bender: That's my dream and that's what we're going to work towards.
- 25:23Lewis Bender: And I believe that will happen.
- 25:24Lewis Bender: I do believe it.
- 25:26John Simboli: Founders and CEOs who've been on BioBoss—some work here in Connecticut some in Boston, some Cambridge, some in Europe.
- 25:35John Simboli: It's somewhat unusual to be able to build something like this right here in Westport and I'm sure you had felt at some point, maybe you would go someplace else with it, but you succeeded in building what your belt built right here.
- 25:51John Simboli: Do you find satisfaction in creating, something not only potentially profound, but something that's right here in this community?
- 25:58Lewis Bender: I've lived in Connecticut almost 25 years.
- 26:01Lewis Bender: My mother's from New Haven.
- 26:02Lewis Bender: My parents' graves are here in Connecticut.
- 26:05Lewis Bender: I had a job in Massachusetts and I commuted for five years and didn't want to really move because I like my community.
- 26:16Lewis Bender: It's a nice place to live.
- 26:18Lewis Bender: So, you know, I like Connecticut, I love Connecticut.
- 26:20Lewis Bender: I like living in Connecticut, but as the CEO of Intensity Therapeutics, my objective is to get patients the care and the drug that they need to live better lives.
- 26:31Lewis Bender: And if that happens in some other state, then that's where I'll go to.
- 26:34Lewis Bender: To be where the best chances are for success are going to be.
- 26:38John Simboli: Thanks for speaking with me today, Lew.
- 26:40Lewis Bender: John, I really enjoy every interaction you and I have.
- 26:44Lewis Bender: I find it to be very thought provoking and enjoyable.
- 26:49John Simboli: Lew Bender told me it would have been a tremendous regret to have never tried.
- 26:53John Simboli: Much worse than trying and failing.
- 26:55John Simboli: Lew''s" Give it a shot" approach has two drivers.
- 26:59John Simboli: One is"How could you let people down who suffer from cancer?" The other is his passion for leadership.
- 27:06John Simboli: As Lew says,"You don't think'I'm going to be a leader', but you think"This is what I want to do.
- 27:13John Simboli: And I have a vision." A vision for a future where people with cancer will have less fear of their disease and less fear of the treatment.
- 27:19John Simboli: A vision for cancer to become a chronic disease where younger people will not die from cancer, where they can see their kids grow up and someday go to those kids' weddings.
- 27:32John Simboli: As Lew says,"That's my dream and that's what we're going to work towards, and I believe that will happen.
- 27:38John Simboli: I do believe it." And I believe that Lew believes.
- 27:43John Simboli: I'm John Simboli.
- 27:43John Simboli: You're listening to BioBoss.