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- 0:00Many of the gurus use it as cheap attention.
- 0:02They're trying to touch on a pain point that many operators
- 0:05have, and it's really an emotional thing.
- 0:07It's unfair to a great extent the level of Flack that OTAs are
- 0:10getting. OTAs like Airbnb and booking.com
- 0:14can be your friend. And for some of you, direct
- 0:17bookings are not worth the hassle.
- 0:20That's David Anthony Scott, a short term rental and branding
- 0:24expert who says direct bookings are not for everyone.
- 0:27Because guess what? Direct bookings come price.
- 0:30This is the House Planet podcast powered by Housefully.
- 0:39David, thank you for joining us on the House Planet podcast.
- 0:42Let's start with a statement that will probably raise a few
- 0:46eyebrows. Direct bookings aren't worth the
- 0:49hassle. What's your take?
- 0:51That's an interesting statement. I think that it's not.
- 0:56It's not worth being hassled by. It would be a more appropriate
- 1:02statement in the sense that it should be a more natural process
- 1:06than a quick fix or a sort of a fad where people are trying to
- 1:10sell it to you as a solution to your overall problem.
- 1:15But it's an interesting way of putting it that definitely
- 1:18provokes questions. So what do you think of the kind
- 1:23of the drive for direct bookings right now and all the stuff we
- 1:28see online about you need to get your guest to book direct.
- 1:31You always have to get, you know, direct bookings, you know,
- 1:33whatever your situation in short term rentals, do you think
- 1:36people are kind of like they're exaggerating a bit by how
- 1:40important it is? Not really.
- 1:42I just think it's a reflection of the maturation level in the
- 1:44industry. A few years back, there was an
- 1:48obsession with optimization of listings.
- 1:51And it's just a natural progression where people started
- 1:54thing in this industry with a side hustle and then they go to
- 1:58level 2 where they start to automate their emails.
- 2:01And now they're going to Level 3 where they are doing other
- 2:07stuff. And then now they're looking at
- 2:09direct bookings as a way to get away from the OTA dependency,
- 2:13which is a phase, but it's not a panacea.
- 2:19Direct bookings is not the magic bullet to make your business
- 2:23profitable. It's just been sold as a pin, as
- 2:29a pinpoint to a level of the market, I would say the operator
- 2:37who's at a certain stage in the market.
- 2:41Now let's have a look at it in a bit more detail then, because
- 2:43obviously people always say, oh, you know, direct bookings are
- 2:47cheaper. Are they cheaper?
- 2:50And when people say this, what are the costs?
- 2:54Do you think that they're they might not necessarily be
- 2:57thinking about? Well, they're not always
- 2:59cheaper. If you look at the just the
- 3:01credit card processing fees for example, that's like 3%.
- 3:05If you look at the risk premium adjustment, you'd be looking at
- 3:09a further 4% for that. So that's already 7% before
- 3:13you've done anything. So I'm talking about just
- 3:15covering yourself in case of anything because you know, OTS
- 3:17usually cover you to some extent.
- 3:21And then the benchmark for attracting through advertising a
- 3:28booking would be maybe 5 to 7% of, of, of gross of gross
- 3:33revenue from the booking. So when you Add all the things
- 3:36up, you're, you're talking about 14% already right off the bat,
- 3:39right? So it's comparable to where
- 3:41Airbnb is already. And so it's not this whole thing
- 3:45or you're giving away 15% to Airbnb.
- 3:48It's, it's just, isn't that right?
- 3:50It's, it's just much more complicated than that, as we're
- 3:52talking about now, the lifetime value of the guest, which is the
- 3:55most important thing. And people keep straying away
- 3:57from this, the argument and the about guest satisfaction and
- 4:02guest experience. And they're trying to look for
- 4:03these magic bullets and ways to scale up and make money and all
- 4:07that kind of thing and just keep moving away from the guests,
- 4:09which is where we should always be focusing in order to have a
- 4:12successful hospitality business and to have a lower guest
- 4:16acquisition cost in the end of the at the end of the day.
- 4:19And in relation to direct bookings, it's far from just
- 4:24building a website, right, You know, because if you work with
- 4:27APMS in particular, or maybe you, you could build a WordPress
- 4:31site or a Wix site pretty quickly, you could you're
- 4:34building a website is kind of the easy bit driving people to
- 4:37the website. That too could be very costly.
- 4:41Hugely, I mean just getting the traffic alone is it costs a lot
- 4:44if you now to advertise actually on Facebook or Google cost a lot
- 4:51because everybody organic reach is very difficult to get now
- 4:55because it's so saturated. And so the the these platforms
- 4:59are charging more to actually for you to to to get connect you
- 5:02with your ideal customer, your ideal guest.
- 5:05So it's very expensive and there's a lot that goes into it
- 5:09beyond just spending money on ads.
- 5:10You have to have good creative and you have to have good copy.
- 5:15You have to know the pain points.
- 5:16You have to create campaigns that are relevant and also to
- 5:21have pages, landing pages that convert and also funnels that
- 5:27connect the landing pages to sequences that help to nurture
- 5:30leads once they get into the system.
- 5:33So just sending traffic blindly to a website is really a a very
- 5:38costly way of trying to attract guests and in most cases it's
- 5:43really a waste of money. I often think of the time
- 5:47element as well, because a lot of people, they have a short
- 5:49term rental. If they just have one or two,
- 5:51generally it's a side hustle, it's an investment, It's
- 5:54something that might be their pension in years to come.
- 5:57And if they're working a full time job, say it's, you know,
- 6:00quite a well paid 1, let's say they're a lawyer or a doctor or
- 6:03some kind of professional spending all this time trying to
- 6:07develop direct bookings might be time wasted if your usual hourly
- 6:11rate is is so high. So you might get a few more
- 6:15direct bookings in a a little bit of Commission, but maybe you
- 6:17should spend that time, you know, doing your normal job.
- 6:20Absolutely. I mean, we didn't even factor
- 6:22that in the time that you, I mean, it was probably the most
- 6:24costly thing of all your, your personal time.
- 6:27So yeah, I mean, the way that the, the direct booking
- 6:33supplement pill has been sold is sort of like, you know, just a,
- 6:38you know, you take it and you're good.
- 6:39It's, it doesn't work. It's much more complicated than
- 6:42that, but it's a very seductive proposition.
- 6:46And how do you feel when people online criticize the OTAs, in
- 6:51particular Airbnb, over and over again?
- 6:53Do you think it's just a cheap bit of attention or or do they
- 6:58really mean it? Many of the gurus use it as
- 7:01cheap attention and they're, they're trying to touch on a
- 7:04pinpoint that many operators have.
- 7:07And it's really, you know, it's an emotional, it's an emotional
- 7:09thing. It's unfair to, to a great
- 7:12extent the, the level of Flack that OTAs are getting.
- 7:15Before OTAs, there was a system that was actually even harder
- 7:20for, well, it was impossible for an independent operator really
- 7:24to get into. You'd have to be at a large
- 7:25hotel in order to have a significant travel agency take,
- 7:30take you on and you'd have to fed them and take into your
- 7:32property and stuff like that. They'd completely ignore small
- 7:36operators. And so OT has actually allowed
- 7:39for this industry to actually even emerge.
- 7:44So and they are doing what they, I mean, obviously they are there
- 7:48are excesses where they are have been pushing their their power
- 7:53and their advantage a bit too far in some cases.
- 7:57But overall they are a friend, not a foe.
- 8:00They're not. They're not.
- 8:03We shouldn't be vilifying them. Quick pause before we continue.
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- 8:55OTAs then David, Airbnb and booking.com.
- 8:58I mean, they spend billions on marketing every year.
- 9:03So from your perspective, why is it unrealistic for individual
- 9:08hosts or even small property managers to even think about
- 9:12competing with that level of reach?
- 9:15Yeah, you cannot compete with them on what they do.
- 9:18They'll actually bid for your name and and show up high in the
- 9:22search rankings on Google for your property and you below it.
- 9:27But that's not where you should compete.
- 9:29You should compete where you understand your ideal guest on a
- 9:35on a more intimate level and advertise for the more the
- 9:40underlying things that the ideal guest is actually looking for in
- 9:43your area or of a property type such as yours.
- 9:49And that should be the under that should be where you're
- 9:51spending your advertising dollars.
- 9:53You cannot get to the top of search in Google using generic
- 9:59keywords. You have to use long tail
- 10:01keywords, bid on long tail tail keywords, and have campaigns
- 10:06that are catered to your ideal guest.
- 10:11And you, you have to understand your guest intimately, their
- 10:14underlying needs, pain points, and that's where you can
- 10:17compete. And yeah, otherwise forget it.
- 10:23When we think of that frustration aimed at the OTAs
- 10:26right now, we've touched on it a little bit before.
- 10:29The fees, the rules, the lack of control.
- 10:32I guess do you think some of the hostility towards platforms is
- 10:36more emotional than commercial? Absolutely.
- 10:41I mean, it's, you know, going back to the same point about the
- 10:46evolution, you know, you looked at Facebook groups with posts a
- 10:53few years back. They are, you know, they're
- 10:54arguing about like this, that they are having a camera on the
- 10:57hot tub. The kind of conversation that
- 11:01we're having is a reflection of the stage that we're at with the
- 11:04maturity of the hosts and sophistication of
- 11:06professionalization. And as there the cadre of hosts
- 11:12become more professional in general, you find that that kind
- 11:14of argument recedes. So I think overall, it's just a
- 11:18reflection of our lack of sophistication as an industry as
- 11:22a whole. And I'm not saying that in a
- 11:24condescending light, because I think that we have a lot of
- 11:28fantastic people out there who are leading the charge and
- 11:33actually making a huge difference.
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- 12:57Let's balance this a little bit then.
- 12:59In what scenarios do you think direct bookings make total sense
- 13:03and and what does a realistic direct booking strategy actually
- 13:07look like? Well, first of all, pick the low
- 13:09hanging fruit. I mean, your your repeat guests
- 13:12are you're a lot. You're the guests that love what
- 13:14you offer and have given you good reviews and you know,
- 13:19typically come back to your area.
- 13:22Those are the people you should be targeting first, making sure
- 13:25that you develop a direct relationship with them through
- 13:28obtaining their e-mail, nurturing, nurturing a, a
- 13:34relationship with them basically, and then getting them
- 13:36to book directly with you. And by the way, I mean, you can,
- 13:40you can start a direct booking system by with a, with a
- 13:43telephone number. You know, it's not, it's not
- 13:46science, not rocket science. It's just about developing a
- 13:48relationship. I was worked in hotels for, for
- 13:52a few years and top hotels and many bookings were taken by
- 13:55e-mail because some guests just prefer taking e-mail, doing
- 13:58e-mail. And so it doesn't have to be
- 14:00this high fluted sort of system where you know, you're, you're
- 14:04you're trying to check with the latest guru about how to do
- 14:07something like that. Just question about building a
- 14:09relationship and getting people to book directly with you.
- 14:11But just have your booking engine set up.
- 14:14Don't bother. Don't you don't have to get a
- 14:16fancy website with like lots of video and stuff like that.
- 14:20Typical. A typical booking engine is
- 14:22structured to get you booked because it follows the format
- 14:26that typically Airbnb would follow anywhere any of those
- 14:30online travel agencies would follow where you give them the
- 14:32information as quickly as possible so they can make a
- 14:34decision as quickly as possible. Your website is there to market
- 14:37your property, not necessarily to get you booked.
- 14:40So first thing is to understand distinction of your booking
- 14:43engine on your website. Your website's for marketing the
- 14:45booking engine is for getting helping a person to to quickly
- 14:50identify what they need and to book with you.
- 14:52So that's the best place to start.
- 14:55And then just try to run campaigns based on intent and
- 15:01understand your calendar and the demand that you will, your
- 15:06calendar will will, will attract.
- 15:08So you know your summer season, who's coming in summer, who's
- 15:12coming here there? How do you reverse engineer
- 15:15everything so that you can promote to the right guests at
- 15:17the right time? Who is worth being promoted to
- 15:21as a direct Booker and who is not?
- 15:23You know on what OTA channels should I use to get the other
- 15:28segments in? If somebody approached you and
- 15:31said, David, I've got a couple of properties and I'm sick of
- 15:35paying all these OTA fees and I've seen this option here to
- 15:39get a direct booking website and it's going to cost me 567000
- 15:42dollars, what would your advice to them be?
- 15:46You don't need a expensive website.
- 15:50Just start with the booking engine that this the property
- 15:53management system provides for you, which is usually included
- 15:58in the property management system fee.
- 16:00They're typically designed, as I said, to to to for people who
- 16:05want to take action. And so you get, you do that and
- 16:10you're good to go. I mean, although you, you get
- 16:13the, you get the data after that and then you build from the data
- 16:17that you have. Don't build a website 1st and
- 16:20then try to get the data, get the data 1st and then build a
- 16:23website around the data that you have.
- 16:25Otherwise you've wasted the money because the first thing
- 16:28that the website's supposed to do is to be able to speak to
- 16:31your ideal audience. And if you're just going to
- 16:33build a website to look pretty, because a lot of people want a
- 16:35pretty website for their own ego reasons.
- 16:37And if it doesn't convert this, no, it doesn't.
- 16:39You're wasting the money. If you were advising a host
- 16:44who's starting out, then would you recommend this hybrid
- 16:48approach? OTAs for demand, Direct for
- 16:51loyalty? And what does doing it properly
- 16:54look like from day one? Yeah, I'd start with OTAs for
- 16:59demand and direct for loyalty because you don't have any
- 17:01traffic yet. If you have traffic, which you
- 17:05know, if you have a good presence on social media and
- 17:09maybe strong blog or something source of traffic, then you
- 17:13know, you can invest a little bit more in a direct strategy
- 17:17with. But the to start with, just go
- 17:22for loyalty and that will pay for itself.
- 17:25The it's a way to start and that that should pay for itself.
- 17:29And then once you understand your guess and you keep going,
- 17:32you just put layers on top of that.
- 17:36Before we get to the final question, then just tell us a
- 17:38little bit about your journey in STR.
- 17:41And I know you're in Sweden right now where it's -6 so how
- 17:45on earth did you end up where it's -6?
- 17:47I thought Yorkshire was cold. I know, yeah.
- 17:50I actually, I was running a hostel in Jamaica in the 2011
- 17:58right to 2020 and migrated to the States in 2016, was running
- 18:04it from there and I was starting to get into SDRS as well.
- 18:09And I sold the hostel prior to COVID and then I was renting.
- 18:13I was leasing 2 hotels which was part of the same hostel group.
- 18:19But because of COVID, I just gave up the lease.
- 18:21There was nothing going on and I wanted to I started to consult
- 18:25for hotels because I developed my own way of running boutique
- 18:31properties and I'd done learned the branding from before, like
- 18:35from a marketing agency I started.
- 18:39But anyway, long on the short of it is that I ended up falling in
- 18:43love with a Swedish woman who's known my wife and I moved here
- 18:49in 2018 and I've been travelling in between here and the States
- 18:55since then and started a family and everything.
- 18:57So it's been a wonderful journey.
- 18:59I love this country. I love my Jamaica too, but I
- 19:02also love this country. And yeah, I just loved helping
- 19:06people make money with rentals or hospitality.
- 19:10I love the industry, I'm passionate about it and I just
- 19:14want to see it advance. And tell us about STR Booster.
- 19:19And I think you've written a book about this space as well.
- 19:23Yeah, actually I decided to write a book was about kind of
- 19:26about my, my, the lessons I've learned from my journey.
- 19:29And it's really about how brand psychology and, you know, help
- 19:36to drive direct bookings. STR Booster was designed to help
- 19:41short term rentals improve their earnings by giving them the
- 19:47tools and the frameworks that can really drive growth.
- 19:53So currently we have a all in one software solution which is
- 19:57designed to take the complexity out of marketing and to give
- 20:02hosts the freedom to scale while saving time that will afford
- 20:10them the focus to on the guest and bring building their brand.
- 20:16Superb. And we'll put the links to STR
- 20:19Booster in the show notes, of course.
- 20:21David, final question that if people take one thing from this
- 20:24episode, what should it be? Know your guest.
- 20:28Know your ideal guest. Have an ideal guest avatar.
- 20:32Understand the calendar and reverse engineer how you're
- 20:36going to get booked. Apply your distribution
- 20:42framework or method the methodology including direct
- 20:44bookings accordingly. Superb, David, it's been a real
- 20:48pleasure. Thanks for joining us on the
- 20:50Host Planet podcast. My pleasure, James, thank you
- 20:53for having me. All right, we'd love to hear
- 20:54from you. If you're watching on YouTube,
- 20:56drop a comment and tell us what's your best direct booking
- 21:00tip or your biggest OTA frustration.
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