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Halloween Week: The Worlds Most Haunted Forest Hoia-Baciu · Wicked and Grim: A True Crime Podcast

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  Speaker 1: It is day number six, which means tomorrow is the
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  Speaker 1: day we are all waiting for All Hallows Eve. So
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  Speaker 1: let us bask for one more day and the anticipation.
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  Speaker 1: Shall we with a story of grand mysteries. Thus far
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  Speaker 1: you've heard tales of murder, the paranormal, witches, and legends
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  Speaker 1: both true and false alike. But now it is time
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  Speaker 1: to dive into the history and the law of the
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  Speaker 1: world's most haunted forest. Ladies, gentlemen, they's and m's. My
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  Speaker 1: name is Jacko, your master of ceremonies for Halloween Week,
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  Speaker 1: and allow me to introduce you to your hosts of
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  Speaker 1: wicked and grim who will.
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  Speaker 2: Present you your tale. Here they are Ben and Nicol.
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  Speaker 3: Happy Halloween Eve.
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  Speaker 2: It's All Hallow's Eve Eve. I have a feeling it
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  Speaker 2: made that joke last year. Okay, well is confused.
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  Speaker 3: It did for a minute there, but it is still
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  Speaker 3: Happy Halloween Eve.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Happy Halloween Eve. Yes, But then Halloween is also
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  Speaker 2: known as All Hallows Eve. Yes, so this is the
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  Speaker 2: Eve of All Hallows Eve. Gosh, it's a double eve.
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  Speaker 2: It's a double negative. I guess I get it.
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  Speaker 3: I am way too tired for complicated shit right now, though.
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  Speaker 2: It's not even ten thirty right now, and Nicole's like,
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  Speaker 2: I should have been in bed an hour ago.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I was planning to go to bed at.
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  Speaker 2: Like eight, And yet you call me an old man.
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  Speaker 3: Well I'm a little bit sleep deprived right now.
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  Speaker 2: Douche too, shit, I mean, both our bit. But it's
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  Speaker 2: worth it because I mean, yeah, as you mentioned already,
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  Speaker 2: we are moving our tiny home, we are doing Halloween week.
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  Speaker 2: We're just having a grand old time here though. Yeah, stressful, but.
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot on the go. But you know what,
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  Speaker 3: I thrive sometimes when there's lots on the go.
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  Speaker 2: It's almost like it challenges you, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I like being busy.
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  Speaker 2: So it's better than sitting around just like wasting away.
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  Speaker 3: But I feel like once we're kind of like settled
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  Speaker 3: in our new place, that we're gonna waste away for
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  Speaker 3: like a whole month and just oh, probably stare at
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  Speaker 3: each other and just.
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  Speaker 2: Watch hockey, eat young food. Oh and there's ooh I
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  Speaker 2: saw this today. There is we were tagged in it. Actually,
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  Speaker 2: there is a series coming out on Netflix or say
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  Speaker 2: not Netflix on Prime Video. It's called The Sticky and
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  Speaker 2: a premiere is on December sixth, And it's a fictional
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  Speaker 2: drama series as far as my understanding, not following the
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  Speaker 2: exact events. So it's like, you know, it's a series
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  Speaker 2: based on loosely the Maple Syrup.
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  Speaker 3: Heist, right you mentioned this.
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  Speaker 2: It looks like a cross between Yellowstone and Fargo basically
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  Speaker 2: in my opinion.
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  Speaker 3: And when is this coming out?
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  Speaker 2: December sixth? Okay, so this is not an advertisement. We're
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  Speaker 2: just stoked to this because we've covered the Maple Syrup
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  Speaker 2: Heist on this yeah before, and it's a good it's
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  Speaker 2: hilarious and it's like infamy in Canada and just all
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  Speaker 2: around awesome. Yeah, but we also have some awesomeness that
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  Speaker 2: we're covering today.
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  Speaker 3: Oh and what's that?
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  Speaker 2: It is the world's most haunted forest.
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  Speaker 3: Oh a forest, A full dangour.
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  Speaker 2: Whole ass forest like woods, you know.
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  Speaker 3: Wow. Yeah, And I just wanted to tie something really quick.
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  Speaker 3: Oh is we had well Alex messaged us about when
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  Speaker 3: we did the what is that called again, when we
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  Speaker 3: do the.
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  Speaker 2: Like Urban Legends, Yes, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: About how his mom had a wound in her head
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  Speaker 3: that ended up having megos.
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  Speaker 2: Oh really yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So and this is like Prince George because you made
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  Speaker 3: a comment about, oh, this is why we live in
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  Speaker 3: Prince Seorge or oh yeah, and yeah, so good luck.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, like having a wound and then that
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  Speaker 2: wound being susceptible to sex is one thing, but then
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  Speaker 2: just insects laying in your ear and creating the wound.
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  Speaker 3: I know, but still she he had said that his
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  Speaker 3: mom like the head felt her head felt itchy. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 3: but like didn't really think much of it. But then
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  Speaker 3: at one point she itched it and like thought like
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  Speaker 3: flakes of skin were coming off, but it.
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  Speaker 2: Was like bugs.
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  Speaker 3: Bugs. Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 2: That would have been horrifying.
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  Speaker 3: I know, I feel so bad about that. That would
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  Speaker 3: just be the worst. Like I think I would just
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  Speaker 3: be like, okay.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and it's not like it's not like I'm thinking.
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  Speaker 2: That's like a horrible situation, like doing me wrong. It's gross.
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  Speaker 2: But like when I picked that urban legend, the reason
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  Speaker 2: why I picked that one is because there's stories of
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  Speaker 2: like spider eggs and or like baby spiders popping out
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  Speaker 2: of like a boil on someone's face. Oh oh god,
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  Speaker 2: there's urban legends like that out there, and I thought
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  Speaker 2: this was akin to it, and I knew it was true.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm like, maybe I'll get you with that, but
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  Speaker 2: I clearly didn't. Yeah, but anyways.
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  Speaker 3: Anyway, let's stop talking about bugs and like, yeah, let's.
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  Speaker 2: Talk about a haunted forest instead.
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  Speaker 3: Is that better?
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  Speaker 2: All right? So, nestled in the heart of Transylvania, Romania,
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  Speaker 2: Hoya bought you the forest. That's what it's called. Hoya
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  Speaker 2: bout you. I hope I pronounced that correctly. Now, this
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  Speaker 2: is a place of mystery and myth, both alike. And
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  Speaker 2: you'll understand why once we get into the story and
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  Speaker 2: why I'm saying mystery myth. Honestly, it's all of it.
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  Speaker 2: There's paranormal, there's mystery, there's myth, there's legend. Like everything
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  Speaker 2: you can think of, this forest has it. It's known
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  Speaker 2: for its chilling reputation as the most haunted forest in
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  Speaker 2: the world. Located near klajew Nipoco Nipoca my apologies in
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  Speaker 2: northwestern Romania, this two hundred and fifty Hector Woodland isn't
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  Speaker 2: famed for Dracula's legacy. I will say that though, as
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  Speaker 2: one might expect. Instead, Hoya boat bought you, bought you,
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  Speaker 2: Hoya bot you. I'm gonna butcher it. I know, I am,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm gonna keep trying. It has earned its name
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  Speaker 2: for itself as Romania's Bermuda Triangle. It's drawn in the curious,
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  Speaker 2: the brave, and the paranormal enthusiasts who are intrigued by
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  Speaker 2: its eerie atmosphere and the strange phenomena that occur within it. Now,
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  Speaker 2: the Hoya Batchu Forest has captivated the world with tales
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  Speaker 2: of bizarre occurrences, unusual plant life, and inexplicable energies. This
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  Speaker 2: isn't a forest like any other. It's very trees seem
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  Speaker 2: to defy the rules of nature. They twist and curve
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  Speaker 2: in unsettling spirals, reaching outward and curving around something before
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  Speaker 2: shooting straight up. So you see, like when you look
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  Speaker 2: at trees in the forest, right and they're all just
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  Speaker 2: shooting upwards. Well yeah, yeah, there's sections in this forest
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  Speaker 2: where all the trees almost do like a semicircle and
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  Speaker 2: then go up really yeah, almost as if they're like
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  Speaker 2: sprouting up and around and like caught in some like
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  Speaker 2: invisible graph that grip that we can't see or something.
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  Speaker 3: Well it could it just be the type of tree though. No, Okay, here,
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  Speaker 3: I'm just I'm gonna probably just be like a skeptic.
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  Speaker 2: Of all this. That's totally fine, be a skeptic. But
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  Speaker 2: honestly that what makes it even more strange is all
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  Speaker 2: these trunks appear to twist exclusively in a clockwise direction. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: this phenomena has baffled researches, researchers and botanists alike and
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  Speaker 2: has yet to be been explained.
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  Speaker 3: That is actually quite odd. I guess when you think
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  Speaker 3: about it, it is like.
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  Speaker 2: They've conducted a lot of experiments, a lot of studies
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  Speaker 2: on these tree growth patterns. Uh, they just haven't been
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  Speaker 2: able to figure out why or what's causing this at all.
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  Speaker 3: Huh.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of weird.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's almost like I feel like it. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I want to see a photo, but like you could
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  Speaker 3: sit on it, like it's like a little chair that
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  Speaker 3: it creates for you.
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  Speaker 2: And then most not quite here and you know, I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna I'm going to probably lose my spot, but I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to get off my script here and I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to show you a photo. Hoya, vot you.
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  Speaker 3: T creeze. I bet you anything too. They've probably taken
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  Speaker 3: like seedlings or whatever from it.
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  Speaker 2: I guess you could sit on those.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, that looks real cool.
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  Speaker 2: It's almost like an upside down question mark. Yeah, if
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  Speaker 2: you guys are listening and you and you're not driving
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  Speaker 2: or something like that. Of course I give this a
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  Speaker 2: Google because it's it's wild.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that actually looks really cool.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, some of speculated, of course, the environments, stressors
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  Speaker 2: or soil compositions as possible explanations, but have been done
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  Speaker 2: and they haven't found anything. Now, perhaps the most famous
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  Speaker 2: and disturbing feature of the Hoyabochu's landscape is the dead
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  Speaker 2: zone quote unquote that has held within the center of it. Now,
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  Speaker 2: this is a barren, near perfect circle within the forest,
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  Speaker 2: covering approximately three quarters of an acre, where no vegetation grows.
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  Speaker 2: Even the heartiest of plants avoid this part of the forest,
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  Speaker 2: and soil samples again have been taken from the area,
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  Speaker 2: yielding no clues as to why nothing thrives in this spot.
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  Speaker 3: Holy shit. Yeah, okay, remember I was like, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 3: be a skeptic, Yes, skeptic that none of this shit
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  Speaker 3: makes any sense.
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  Speaker 2: No, it doesn't. It's and we're just getting started.
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  Speaker 3: And that's sorry, Like an acre or.
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  Speaker 2: Three quarters of an acre, so almost an acre.
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  Speaker 3: Shit just doesn't grow there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there is like a little bit of grasp,
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  Speaker 2: that's it. Like no willows, no trees, no flowers, no wheat,
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  Speaker 2: like nothing.
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  Speaker 3: It's just like willows grow frickin' anywhere. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So it's as if the land itself has rejected life
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  Speaker 2: in the spot, creating an ominous break in lush greenery
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  Speaker 2: that surrounds it. Over the years, this dead zone has
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  Speaker 2: become a hot spot for paranormal activity as well. Visitors
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  Speaker 2: have reported everything from strange orbs, lights floating through the air,
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  Speaker 2: sensations of disorientation, and sudden chills within the center. Okay, wow,
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  Speaker 2: so how skeptic are you right now? Of the way
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  Speaker 2: about you?
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  Speaker 3: For well, at this point, I would still i would
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  Speaker 3: still visit the forest, so like I'm skeptical, but not
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  Speaker 3: like I'm still skeptical. I'm like, shit's going down there,
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  Speaker 3: but I'm not like terrified that I wouldn't go and
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  Speaker 3: visit it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, okay, not.
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  Speaker 3: Like that other shit that you talked to about.
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  Speaker 2: Fair enough the other day, fair enough now. So the
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  Speaker 2: experiences of those who have dared to enter the dead
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  Speaker 2: zone are varied from person to person, but yet at
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  Speaker 2: the same time, they're all very unsettlingly similar kind of
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  Speaker 2: Some report feeling an intense sensation of being one watched,
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  Speaker 2: while others describe hearing unexplainable sounds or experienced disorientation. Perceptions
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  Speaker 2: of time and space kind of almost seem to get
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  Speaker 2: messed with while you're in there, Like what time is it? Oh,
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  Speaker 2: it's like half an hour's gone by. I thought it
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  Speaker 2: was like fucking fifteen minutes, Like things like that or something. Right. Also,
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  Speaker 2: stories of electronic devices malfunctioning, cameras suddenly refusing to work,
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  Speaker 2: or photos that have been taken suddenly vanishing from people's
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  Speaker 2: devices are also to recur.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, that's wild.
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  Speaker 2: Many visitors leave convinced that the area holds a very
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  Speaker 2: unique and possibly evil energy withinside of it.
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  Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 2: Now we are just scratching the surface of this forest too.
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  Speaker 2: So beyond Hoya Bochu's unique landscape and the spectral beauty,
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  Speaker 2: of course, because I mean, let's be honest, those trees
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  Speaker 2: look kind of freaking wild, it holds a lot more untold,
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  Speaker 2: in strange secrets. Among them are old legends that have
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  Speaker 2: been passed down from generations of occurrences, and one of
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  Speaker 2: the most famous is a tale of a shepherd and
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  Speaker 2: his flock. So, as the story goes, this shepherd set
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  Speaker 2: off into the forest one evening, leading over two hundred
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  Speaker 2: sheep through the dense woodland. His plan was simple, a
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  Speaker 2: quick journey through the forest to the other side, where
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  Speaker 2: fresh fields waited. But as the night began to settle
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  Speaker 2: and he and his flock failed to return, concern quickly
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  Speaker 2: grew in the nearby village as the hours turned to nightfall.
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  Speaker 3: And you said it was like two hundred.
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  Speaker 2: Sheep, two hundred sheep, Okay, So it's not like a
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  Speaker 2: dude and a sheep.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, like a couple of sheep or whatever. That's a lot.
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  Speaker 2: It's a man and a flock more than a flock. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And these are, like I'm presuming, because you can't have
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  Speaker 2: sheep of varying color, but most commonly they're generally very
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  Speaker 2: light colored white. Right, they're going to stand out when
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  Speaker 2: you look through the forest. Right. But the villagers, they
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  Speaker 2: they were concerned that none of them returned, and they
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  Speaker 2: were familiar with his routine, you know, coming back from
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  Speaker 2: the forest or some things at certain times, all this
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  Speaker 2: sort of stuff, and he wasn't back, so they decided
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  Speaker 2: to organize a search party. They combed the forest from
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  Speaker 2: edge to edge, scouring the paths he would have likely taken,
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  Speaker 2: because I mean, everyone there kind of knows the pass
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  Speaker 2: in the area, right, hoping for any sign of his presence,
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  Speaker 2: a footprint, a stray sheep tracks, or something marking their trail.
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  Speaker 2: Yet they found nothing, not a single clue hinted at
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  Speaker 2: where the shepherd and his large flock could have gone.
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  Speaker 2: It was as if though he and two hundred sheep
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  Speaker 2: simply vanished.
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  Speaker 3: Oh man, see, I have trouble believing that one though.
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  Speaker 3: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Now, this is kind of an urban legend told over centuries, okay,
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  Speaker 2: where the facts are in this there's nothing to prove
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  Speaker 2: any of it, but it is an infamous story attached
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  Speaker 2: to this forest.
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  Speaker 3: Like, I believe it happened, but I have trouble believing
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  Speaker 3: that it was like two hundred sheep, you know, like
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  Speaker 3: maybe you know how the game of telephone, maybe it
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  Speaker 3: was actually like twenty but still still that's some weird
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  Speaker 3: shit for twenty sheep to be gone and this person.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, now, this disappearance, of course, shook the community,
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  Speaker 2: giving rise to stories of supernatural things and occurrences within
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  Speaker 2: the forest. The villagers believe that the forest was actually
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  Speaker 2: guarded by spirits, ancient protectors who could enforce the forest's
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  Speaker 2: domain over those who entered without respect. Some said that
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  Speaker 2: the shepherd might have crossed an unseen boundary, perhaps violating
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  Speaker 2: the spirit's domain by leading his flock through the sacred grounds.
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  Speaker 2: This idea drew on a widely held belief in Transylvania
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  Speaker 2: that forests hold potent guardian spirits who take swift retribution
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  Speaker 2: when their land is disrespected. Others speculate that the shepherd
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  Speaker 2: may have stumbled upon something far stranger than that, which
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  Speaker 2: hard to believe in its own, but something that they
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  Speaker 2: call a quote thin place where the veil between world's weekends,
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  Speaker 2: allowing unsuspecting individuals to slip through into another realm or universe,
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  Speaker 2: which would explain the disappearance why they were never seen from.
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  Speaker 3: But it wouldn't necessarily explain the no tracks and stuff.
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  Speaker 3: You think there would still be some that's true.
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  Speaker 2: Huh Okay, I mean, I guess, depending depending on how
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  Speaker 2: I mean. I don't think any of us could really
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  Speaker 2: comprehend at this point, because science only gets so far,
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  Speaker 2: but I don't think it depends on how the parallel
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  Speaker 2: worlds and realms.
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  Speaker 3: Mix, you know, Yeah it does.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, But many believe that he and his flock may
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  Speaker 2: have inadvertently crossed into this otherworldly space, vanishing from the
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  Speaker 2: Nome world without a trace forever. And a more ominous
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  Speaker 2: theory among the locals suggest that the forest, with its
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  Speaker 2: eerie dead zone and spiraling trees, requires a sacrifice to
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  Speaker 2: sustain its mysterious energy. As such, locals are very careful
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  Speaker 2: when entering the forest and are aware of the risk
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  Speaker 2: that those of those who tread inside arrogantly within the shadows.
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  Speaker 2: Some believe that the forest actually chooses who may and
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  Speaker 2: may not pass, while some are just simply taken without knowing. Now,
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  Speaker 2: this is legends. These are legends that we're talking right now, right, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but it's still now. The story of the Shepherd is
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  Speaker 2: among one of the oldest tales associated with Hoy About You,
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  Speaker 2: yet it's one of many mysterious disappearances associated with the forest.
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  Speaker 2: Another well known story, another legend, centers on a young
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  Speaker 2: girl who vanished within the four Steps. This girl, according
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  Speaker 2: to local accounts, wandered into Hoy About You and didn't
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  Speaker 2: return home, sparking yet another desperate search. Frantic with worry,
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  Speaker 2: villagers formed search parties and scoured the forest, determining are
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  Speaker 2: determined to bring her back. But despite their exhaustive efforts,
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  Speaker 2: the girl was just nowhere to.
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  Speaker 3: Be found, just gone as well.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, just like the shepherd before her, she seemed to
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  Speaker 2: have vanished without a trace.
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  Speaker 3: See that's kind of scary shit there. Like I say,
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  Speaker 3: I'll go visit this, but like, how do you know
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  Speaker 3: that you're not going to just be the next sacrifice?
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  Speaker 3: You know?
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  Speaker 2: Right, it's like a very evil dead scenario where the
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  Speaker 2: trees like grab her at the beginning and stuff. That
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  Speaker 2: could be very much what happens. Yes, right, I mean
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  Speaker 2: the likelihood obviously is not there, but huh, the history
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  Speaker 2: might suggest otherwise.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, and just back to the trees too for one
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  Speaker 3: brief second, because I kind of mentioned this, but I'm
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  Speaker 3: imagining too they've like taken seedlings or something from these
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  Speaker 3: trees and grown them elsewhere, I assume. So they probably
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  Speaker 3: haven't done that, I assume, So huh, otherwise it would
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  Speaker 3: just explain that it's just a species type of tree. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So, but as far as I'm aware, botanist, scientists, everyone
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  Speaker 2: has like done samples they make and it just does
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  Speaker 2: not Yeah, it doesn't explain anything. Hmm Okay, Now time
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  Speaker 2: went on with this little girl who has never found. However,
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: decades later, an eerie twist would come to this story.
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  Speaker 2: As the story goes, or as the legend goes, the
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  Speaker 2: young girl reappeared at the forest edge one day, as
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: I mentioned, decades later, unchanged by time. She looked just
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: as she had on the day that she disappeared, her
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: clothes just as pristine is. When she first entered the forest.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: She was reportedly dazed, struggling to remember where she'd been
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: or how much time had passed. When questioned, she could
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: recall nothing beyond the moment she stepped into the Forestly, shit,
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: could you imagine if that's like a legitimate story.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: Well, and like if that's your kid, right, like so
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: long has passed and then they just like are back
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: like the same, like it just time didn't go exactly.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: Oh man.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Now, I do want to kind of point out a
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: little bit of a parallel with like abduction stories. You
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: have full abductions tales and stuff. There are people who
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: are like they can't account for hours it's like they're
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: in their car, they see a bright light, and all
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: of a sudden, they're back in their car and the
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: clock is like twelve hours past or like four hours past,
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: and like time is gone. They don't know what the
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: fuck happened?
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: Right, but not like decades.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Decades is very extreme, of course, but I just want
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: to point out those similarities.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: Huh. But then yeah, like again, maybe this is slightly true,
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: but like not to the point where it was decades
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: or something, right, Yeah, so yeah, oh.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: Man, Okay, you're getting a little more skeptical of if
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: you would step into this forest.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: I think I still would. Okay, I think I still would.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Well. This incident cemented the belief for locals that the
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: forest could quote trap individuals in some kind of suspended reality,
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: distorting time, or even transporting them to another realm, as
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: I mentioned already with the Shepherd, and skeptics argued that
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: these stories are little more than superstition, most likely changing
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: over the years. You know, as we're already talking about
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: people retell the stories, they grow each time throughout centuries, right,
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: because these stories are old, and visitors may enter the
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: forest also listening to these things and excited to go
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: visit such a forest, and so their prime for encounter
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: of strange events, and they might experience maybe a placebo
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: effect when they walk through the forest, which leads them
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: to interpret ordinary events and experiences into the paranormal. Right,
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: like I mentioned, when you're in the dead zone, Oh,
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: only fifteen minutes is past? Or sorry, only like a
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: half an hour's past? I thought it was only fifteen minutes. No,
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: maybe you just actually lost track of time.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: Right, Well, yeah, if you're in a new place, that
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: can happen if you're kind of like fascinated and looking
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: around and stuff, right.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Exactly now, In all these they are though, just stories.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, of course, except for the trees and the
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: dead zone being a bit like the plant life is weird,
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: right yeah, But they're just stories. These are legends. It's
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: just people's imaginations and stuff. However, such reasoning, as I mentioned,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: doesn't explain things like the dead Zone. But there are
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: other events that push Hoyabochu into the international spotlight, and
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: ones that are actually rooted in fact.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: Oh okay, we're not done here.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: Oh we're not done here. So this event occurred on
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: a clear sunny day in August nineteen sixty eight when
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: military technician Emil Barney ventured into the forest with his
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: girlfriend and a few friends. Now a Meil was known
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: for his skeptical nature, and he had no expectations of
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: anything unusual happening that day. They're just off for a
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: walk in the woods. Yet, in an unexpected turn of events,
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: his girlfriend noticed something unusual, something hovering above the top
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: of the trees. He walked over and he took a
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: look with her, and he spotted it too. There was
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: a large metallic disc shaped object glinting in the sunlight,
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: hovering silently over the forest canopy. Emil fortunately had his
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: camera with him and he acted quickly, capturing four photographs
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: of the object before it sped away, vanishing into the distance.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: The photos are some of the clearest and most compelling
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: of an alleged UFO taken at the time. It attracted
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: international attention as the images quickly made their way into newspapers,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: igniting public curiod and drawing UFO and enthusiasts and researchers
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: to the forest.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: Oh so they actually have these photos, these photo you
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: can google right, it exists.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: They're on Google right now.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: Okay, here, I was thinking you were going to tell us, Ay,
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: they mysteriously disappeared or something, but they're real.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: They're out there.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: Oh gosh, okay, we're also looking that up.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Then, so many people were very skeptical. Of course, I mean,
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: who isn't when it comes to UFO sightings, right, But
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: the clarity of these images and his background in scientific
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: field lent the sightings of lent it credibility. Basically, you
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: have this person with this background, scientific military background and
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: very clear images. It's like, Okay, you're not just like
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: a modern day instagrammer on your iPhone who takes a
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: blurry photo of sasquatch running through the forest. It's clearly
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: your friend in a gorilla suit, like, not one of
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: those situations. You know, there's some credibility to this. UFO
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: researchers were intrigued by the idea that way about you
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: my actually be an extraterrestrial hub or even a portal.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: As many mentioned before, Hey, these parallel worlds. What if
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: this parallel world is actually an opening or a door
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: for these extraterrestrials or these beings to come through. Now,
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: the photographs also attracted their shriff skepticism, some of who
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: argued that the images could be hoaxed, or a trick
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: of the light, or an atmospheric anomaly. Some claim it
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: was likely even a weather balloon, which is a classic
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: yeah UFO quip or quote or however you want to
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: say it, or even a photographic error. But investigations were
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: conducted to identify any possibility of explanations regarding weather balloons, aircrafts,
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: or anything else that could be in the sky that day,
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: but there was no record or any concrete evidence ever
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: found of something in the sky. Even the negatives were analyzed,
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: yet no tampering was found to be done. Okay, Emil
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: had not altered the images.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: Well yeah, and because you had said this was like
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: nineteen sixty eight, right, because so nowadays, you know, it's
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: so easy to like photoshop images or it is or
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: punk something in there. But back then it really wasn't correct.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: But that doesn't mean it's still not feasible to hoax something.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: Well yeah, or it's it's something it looks it's something else,
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: but then looks like this, you know.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Right, Honestly, all you have to do is have a
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: friend throw a trash can lid, like a silver lid
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: through the sky and you take a blurry photo of it.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: I've seen some videos on how to hoax these things,
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: and one way of.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: Doing it, yeah, gosh.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Another one you can just sit in your vehicle and
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: you can like tape a quarter or a dime or
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: something on your windshield and now you have a like
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: little floating metallic disc in the sky. There's ways of
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: doing it, I guess yeah, because you're not tampering with negatives,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: you're not photoshopping. There's actually something in the image. If
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: it's blurring out of focus, you can't tell. But the
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: thing with these they're they're rather sharp for UFO images,
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: I will.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: Say, right.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: So. Theories about why Hoyabochu might attract extraterrestrial interests have
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: continued to evolve over the time. Some suggest that the
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: forest's unique electromagnetic anomalies could act as a beacons or
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: on the UFO or other worldly entities. Others speculate that
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: an ancient source of energy may be hidden within the forest,
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: calling extraterrestrial visitors. Some theories go even further, reaching back
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: into the history of the forest legends regarding interdimensional gateways, portals, realms, YadA, YadA, YadA.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: But the forest dead zone is often seen as a
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: potential point of entry for these mysterious visitors. This dead
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: zone almost seems to be the hub for most of it. Now,
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: beyond these UFO sightings, Hoybochu's forest experiences so many more
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: unsettling phenomena that extend beyond the realm of extraterrestrial theories,
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: and visitors to the forest frequently report all kinds of
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: experiences and events from within the forest. There's a pervasive
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: feeling of being watched. It's very common. There's an inexplicable
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: wave of anxiety many people experience. Many people emerged from
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: the forest with scratches, bruises, or marks on their skin,
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: unable to recall how they got them or where they
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: came from. Man This has led some to believe that
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: the forest might be haunted by spirits of past inhabitants
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: or unfortunate souls lost within the trees. Now, with the
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: forest's rich history dating back to six five hundred BC,
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: when it was the site of Romania's first and oldest settlement,
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: evidence of ancient human presence has been uncovered there, and
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: some speculate the forest bears the residual energy of those
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: who lived and died within its boundaries at the time,
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: So you have ancient spirits from these ancient civilizations potentially
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: wandering or trapped there.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: Holy shit. Okay, I feel like it was. If it's
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: just spirits for some reason, I feel like I would
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: still visit. But this whole UFO shit, I think I'm out.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Do you think you're out now?
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: Kind of because I don't know, just like alien stuff
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: kind of freaks me out a little.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, well, let me keep going here because it
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: keeps going. Okay, there's ghostly apparitions, there's flickering orbs and
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: strange lights, voices, and they've all been reported. People claim
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: to hear sounds of hooks, whispering, laughter, or even distant
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: screams of a phantom with no visible source. Some visitors
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: even report seeing spectral faces in person, or capturing ghostly
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: images and orbs and photos that weren't visible of the time.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Adding to the mystique is the tale that witches once
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: gathered within the forest, using it as a site for
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: rituals and spell work.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: M hm. That makes sense now.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: According to some local lore, these gatherings left dark energies
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: lingering in certain areas, particularly around the center clearing of
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: the dead zone. Local say these energies can still be
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: felt by those who dare to approach, as if the
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: land itself were marked by century old rituals. Now. There
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: is also a reported hum, a low rhythmic sound that
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: occasionally echoes through the forest with no apparent source. Some
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: visitors describe feeling disoriented when they hear it, or others
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: feel the need to be drawn to it, as if
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: they need to venture deeper into the forest upon hearing it,
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: almost as if the forest itself is calling them.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just going to say that. Yeah.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: All the strange stories surrounding Hoyabochi's forest have woven a
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: very complex of supernatural lore, layered with accounts of UFO sightings,
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: ghostly encounters, chilling sensations, things all around that just cannot
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: be explained. What we do know is that the forest
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: draws in those with the taste for the unknown, tempting
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: them to venture deeper into its dark secrets. Between all
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: the tales and the legends, Hoyabocu's continues to uphold its
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: reputation as the world's most haunted forest.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: Okay, so question, yes, can anyone just go and visit
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: this forest, Like, is it just like open there.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: I believe so. Yeah, there's like bike paths and hiking trails.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: Yah, huh yeah, Okay.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's abnormal to go there, but I
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: do think people who go there do respect it. And
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: I think going there at night is another story. Sure
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: you can go there, but I think people are much
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: why or careful.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah. No, if I went there, I think I would
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: definitely make sure that, you know, you had that feeling
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: of respect.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: Oh, definitely, which are to be fair, I think we
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: should do that with nature regardless, to be fair, to
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: be fair. But yeah, you kind of want to protect
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: your own ass on this one just a little bit,
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, huh.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: So that's the story of Hoya Vot you the world's
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: most haunted forest. Like I said, we could go on
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: a deep dive about this because, like I said, it
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: just keeps going. There's there's ghosts, there's UFOs, there's apparitions,
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: there's legends, there's portals, there's realms. The list is everything
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: supernatural and paranormal occurs in this forest.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: Would you go there? Yes, one hundred percent, yes, huh Okay.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: What is that place? Is it like area fifty one
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: or something. Am I getting you, okay fifty one because
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: no one, like, I mean, there's very few I'm sure
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: know what is actually going on in there, correct. So
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: I feel like if this place, this forest is actually
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: like a hub for aliens or extraterrestrials or whatever, okay,
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: that they would like close it off or something. You know.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: That's just where my brain goes.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Not necessarily because I think with Area fifty one, well,
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Area fifty one is a military base for the United
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: States of America, but people theorize there's other things that
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: go on there now that might we really don't know that.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: We don't. We don't know. It's a military base, that's
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: what we do know. And people speculate that, hey, I mean,
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: maybe there's reverse engineering going on with alien crafts and
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: that's what they're doing there. Others speculate that, hey, like
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: aliens and UFOs and stuff land there, and that's like
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: the I don't know, the meeting base. I guess there's
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: there's hundreds of hubs around the world where there's sightings
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: of UFOs frequently, there's crop circles frequently. There's a lot
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: of places where it's like you can go there and
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: probably see a fucking UFO if you wait a week
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: or something, wait long.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: Enough, because it isn't abnormal for the crop circle or
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: where it happens for it to happen again in the
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: same kind of spot, right, Like that's happened to people I've.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Always right, Yeah, there's farmers who have crop circles pop
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: up repeatedly.
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: Oh and it's just like a piss off. That's like
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: waste and money.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: I know, it's just like my fucking corn. Goddamn, it
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: just planted that.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: Huh wow, so interesting.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so job you would not go there because of
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: the UFO reports, say, yeah.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: That's what's making me question it a bit, because I
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: just like, I don't know. My thought is like, what's
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: I'm just not gonna put myself in that situation.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: You don't want to get probed, no, or just.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: Like abducted or you know, And I don't know. That's
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: just that scares me a.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Little fair enough, I don't know, if you asked me,
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Earth has kind of fucked it. It's not sounding so
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: bad to get away from for a while, you know.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: Gosh, so maybe that shepherd and his sheep were just like, oh,
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: this is better let's just stay.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Maybe who knows, maybe he's the one abducting people now,
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: oh man?
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, huh okay, well done than usual.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Tomorrow is officially Halloween, which is the last day of
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Halloween Week. Hopefully you guys are liking this so far,
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: and we're gonna we're gonna end it with a well,
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: I don't want to give anything away. I got a
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: good one for you. I'll just put it.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: That way, Okay, yeah, so until tomorrow.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: Until tomorrow, well we got to bring Jackoe of course.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: Of course.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, yackill stay wicked.