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Overtime - Marshall's New Era: Discussing Cornelius Jackson's Hiring · Let's Talk with Carl Lee

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  The opinions expressed on this program do not necessarily reflect the opinions of WVRC Media,
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  It's management, employees, or sponsors. This is Overtime, a weekly
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  moment of off the Cup commentary on everything from sports and politics to observations about
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  everyday life from NFL all pro Carl Lee. Welcome to Overtime. Hello,
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  ladies and gentlemen. This is Carl Lee, and this is our overtime,
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  and I have my two delegates still here with me, and we're going to
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  talk a little bit about Marshall basketball and coach Jackson, their new coach who
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  also I guess coached at West Virginia State then played at Marshall as well.
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  So I'll take from the Huntington native, tell us, how does how does
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  Huntington feel in this transition, because it was a little it was a little
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  touch. It was I mean, you had a big name coach that yeah,
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  they kind of you know, had to had to walk away that that
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  seemed to be a little bit of a tough situation. So I'll I will
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  start off the same first and foremost, regardless of any social gas he might
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  have made. Addressing the first comment, I think coach Huggins is a great
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  basketball coach. But I also think no, he was talking about Huggins being
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  hired. Is that who you were talking about? No, Jackson and then
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  and then the coach that was I thought you were referencing that people were upset
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  that we didn't give Huggins a look. Oh no, no, no,
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  no, okay, no, is that an issue? Though it's not an
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  issue I just heard you know everyone. Well, let me just say this.
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  I can't I can't imagine. Yeah, I don't think. I can't
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  imagine him doing that. And a W b U coach that has that hit,
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  Oh, who's gonna do that? You think? So what WOW mean
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  about think about his departure in Morgantown, Well, he would love to have
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  the opportunity to go to the other in state school. I had to build
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  them up and to say, look what I'm doing. Okay, but but
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  where I was going, I'm gonna go ahead. But where I was going
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  with that is we passed on Huggins before. So if anybody was upset,
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  then we didn't give him opportunity. They should have been upset years ago when
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  we didn't get him the opportunity because we had we would have had I'm almost
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  for certain we could have had Michael Beasley, Bill Walker, maybe even Patrick
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  Passon OJM. We would have won a national championship in Huntington for sure.
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  Now, I like all my coaches, right, I'm a huge fan of
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  of of of Donnie Jones. I thought he was super good for the program,
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  obviously a coach dantoni fan and some others. But I wanted to get
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  the record straight. Her people are like, oh, why didn't we look
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  at Huggins. I saw a couple of means, Well, you should have
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  been mad back then because he delivered a national championship if we had hired him
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  back then. But I digress. I think that Corny is the right hire
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  at the right time. I also think that it's a seamless transition because he's
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  one of d'antoni's guys. And so if there's any supporters in my city of
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  Huntington of D'Antoni, whether you get a double down for Corny because this is
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  what coach Dan wanted, right. So so I don't you know, I
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  would find it hard to believe if there would be any waffling from any D'Antoni
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  supporters to to not support Corny but from a basketball iqis very very sharp.
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  I think that he's going to be run a tight ship and have some upgrades
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  in recruiting. You know, from a basketball standpoint, I think d'antoni's a
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  really good coach. Now some people might disagree with me there, but I
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  just think with Corny at the helm, and I'm sure he's gonna have Adam
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  Williams, who's a Canall County kid, help him do a lot of the
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  heavy lifting with the recruiting, and I think it's it's just going to be
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  really good. I really do. Is it's part of this too, is
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  could the could this be part of age and the ability to go out and
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  relate if that's such, If that's the right word to relate to the recruits
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  for today, is coach Jackson? Would he be better at that than Dan
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  Tony would at fifth point? I think he's going to take a different approach
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  and I think that's going to yield some high dividends. Yeah, I think
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  it's a I think it's a new way of recruiting now. I think,
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  you know, going into high school kids living room and doing the whole sales
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  pitch. That's not necessarily what's happening now, Like now you have to be
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  a little more sophisticated where you're actually dipping in that transfer portal and you're finding
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  those veterans and having the right mix of veterans and freshmen to sort of to
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  get a good balance like what Yukon Hurley's doing in Yukon So and you said
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  something earlier on the show before, you were talking about, you know,
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  building that structure. That chemistry is about keeping those same guys all together.
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  But in this situation, you're saying, he's gonna have to go out and
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  maybe get that group. I think, or is that group? That group?
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  They're already So we gotta have some more Jimmies and Joe's okay, we
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  definitely gotta have more depth coming off the bench. I just think just taking
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  a fresh look at at how we recruit uh and and the type of kid
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  that we're recruiting to be able to compete in the Sun Belt. I think
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  the Sun Belt is vastly similar to Conference USA. You've got to have some,
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  you know, really strong athletes that know the game. But you know,
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  you know, historically, especially when we were in Conference USA, we
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  did really good at having a good mix of high school kids and JUCO kids
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  playing at a high level. You know, if you look at the division,
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  one you know, sort of recipe right now is to have you a
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  start or two, get you in the transfer portal, but also get you
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  some really good d two kids. And I think that Corny with his staff
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  is going to be able to capture that. But I also cost some people
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  that it might not be overnight, and so we should extend him the same
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  patients that we would any other coach. And I think too when you could
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  you mentioned age, I think now you're in a position as a coach where
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  it's twenty four hour, three sixty five recruiting because, for example, if
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  Marshall did get that freshman or that maybe they got somebody who just transferred in
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  and who had a year under their belt and that kid turned out to be
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  an absolute stud and you know, maybe he was some conference player of the
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  year, got him to the tournament. If that kid wants to actually stay
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  in college, he may be looking for a bigger and better opportunity. So
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  you're constantly recruiting now, whether it's JUCO transfer portal or you know, high
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  school. So it's it's a different level now, gonna say commitment. But
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  it's a different job now than what it was. Well, yeah, because
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  you got at any given day, you've got somebody new in the coming and
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  going. Yes, yes, And I think but one of the one of
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  the concerns that I have about one of the concerns I have about the portal
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  is the guy who the guy who enters the portal and the guy that I
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  pull from the portal. My fear is him heading back to the portal like
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  the most you know, it's not what I want. He's heading back to
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  the portal. That is what it is. And I think you just got
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  to be prepared for that. I mean, you don't think you I mean,
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  you can't overthink that. Well, well a situation with you, Yeah,
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  it just it just is, it's just it's it's just because I can't.
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  I've never I was in in an era where like when you were on
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  a team, like like you were on that team. I said, I
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  swore I was gonna like I was gonna retire a biking literally the next season
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  that because I was only gonna play one more season and I was going to
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  retire and I was gonna like, you know, cool, I played my
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  entire career for the Vikings and I'm gonna retire from it, lo and behold,
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  they end up cutting me. I ended up going to the Saints.
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  And I knew I only had you know, well, I didn't really know,
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  but I found out I only had one more season left in the body.
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  But but and I hated the idea of, you know, I appreciate
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  the Ats and you know, Jim Moore and all that kind of stuff,
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  but I would have loved to have played my entire career for the Vikings and
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  and left from there. So I see, like a loyalty kind of a
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  thing is my structure. So I get that. And and and being a
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  little bit, you know, a little bit younger than you and hollis all
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  right, but neither here nor there. I totally get that era of loyalty.
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  And I, you know, call myself a very old school. However,
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  I would challenge you that do you think your line of thinking would be
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  the same if you were in a era right now where the financial opportunities are
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  far greater than what they used to be. And I think that has led
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  to some of the decision making amongst athletes. Uh and and and sort of
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  saying Hey, you know, you know I have I have learned through the
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  greats, Yeah, that you have a finite time to play this game and
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  to capture an amazing opportunity. From a wealth standpoint, I am going to
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  do what I need to do. And we are also on the heels of
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  a lot of things that's happened in society that from the top one could argue
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  that maybe they're in it for themselves, which we didn't have as much media
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  back then. And there's been a lot of situations I say I over the
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  past five years. We don't have the time to go through all of them,
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  but I think we know what we're talking about from an ownership standpoint versus
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  the player. There might be a a little bit more education out there.
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  Then again, you know, while I do want to be loyal, I
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  do understand that this man that cuts my check is all about his bottom line.
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  So it might be sort of foolish in me to not at least recognize
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  my bottom line and maybe another opportunity outside of a financial aspect could lie somewhere
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  else. You've hit the nail on the head. I mean, I was
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  listening to some comments Nick Saban was saying, and I was totally disgusted by
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  what he was saying, as though, like these kids shouldn't be able to
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  cash in on their nil and their you know, athletic prowess, because if
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  we look at the transfer portal, you look at NIL, you look at
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  the problem, particularly with the men's side of college athletics football basketball specifically,
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  this was done by the NC DOUBLEA. They could have handled this. I
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  mean, if it's twenty twenty four now, so prior to nil, if
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  you're talking, I would say five years ago, if you'ld have gave these
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  kids twenty five hundred bucks a month two thousand that had been straightened, they
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  wouldn't have been complaining. You wouldn't have heard a peep. We wouldn't have
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  been here now. And I think that you could have even quashed even used
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  that his levers to quash the whole transfer thing. So this is their doing,
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  This is their fault, and they're the reason why we're here, and
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  you know, just to put a button in it. And I think that
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  having a newer, younger coaches such as coach Jackson, who's coach at the
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  Division two level, the Division IE level, I think he is in a
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  better position from my estimation to navigate these new waters that we find ourselves in.
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  And I'm pretty sure because one of the good things about when you speak
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  about his youth is again relatable. Yeah, you know. And again one
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  of the reasons why, and I'll close on it here, one of the
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  reasons why I can't, I could never really see myself really ever coaching again,
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  is simply because the reality of what I know how how that works doesn't
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  apply. Na, coach, You're just gonna have a million status. We
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  got you, okay, we got no, no, no no, we
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  need to find the team that's going to get it. All right, ladies
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  and gentlemen. That's uh. That's my two delegates today and I appreciate their
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