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The Murder of Moriah Wilson · Legally Brunette

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Speaker 1: Hi, guys, welcome to an episode of Legally Brunette. I
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Speaker 1: will be your host today Emily Simpson with my co.
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Speaker 2: Host Shane Shane.
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Speaker 1: Okay, before we get started on this episode, which, by
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Speaker 1: the way, we are going to talk about the murder
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Speaker 1: of Mariah Wilson. I don't know if you guys have
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Speaker 1: seen it. It is new on Netflix. I couldn't wait
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Speaker 1: for it to come out. I actually, you know how
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Speaker 1: on Netflix you can do like the reminders, because I
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Speaker 1: kept seeing advertise on Netflix and I wanted to watch it,
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Speaker 1: so I had to do a reminder. So I watched
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Speaker 1: it like as soon as it came out. So interesting
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Speaker 1: and intriguing. Can't wait to talk about it. But before
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Speaker 1: we get into it, I just wanted to ask you,
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Speaker 1: has Megan Markle done anything recently that has angered you?
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Speaker 2: No. I have not read any headlines yet for Mega.
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Speaker 1: Mark Okay, and I would have to say that the
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Speaker 1: majority of dms I get now are people agreeing with
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Speaker 1: how much they dislike he along with you. Yeah. So anyway,
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Speaker 1: if you have any other updates.
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Speaker 2: On an eye out.
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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so let's go into this Anna Mariah,
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Speaker 1: she goes by Moe to her close friends and family.
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Speaker 1: Wilson was a twenty five year old professional cyclist who
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Speaker 1: was fatally shot on May eleventh of twenty twenty two
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Speaker 1: at a friend's home in Austin, Texas. Investigators determined that
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Speaker 1: Caitlyn Armstrong, who was a yoga instructor and realtor, followed
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Speaker 1: Wilson home and shot her three times. Her motives were
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Speaker 1: rooted in jealousy over Mariah's romantic involvement with Caitlyn's boyfriend
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Speaker 1: and fellow cyclist, Colin Strickland. The case drew widespread attention,
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Speaker 1: considering Mariah's promising career in cycling and the circumstances of
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Speaker 1: her death. Netflix released a documentary about her case. It
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Speaker 1: was just released I think it was just a couple
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Speaker 1: of days ago, in twenty twenty six, titled The Truth
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Speaker 1: and Tragedy of Mariah Wilson. Had you heard about this
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Speaker 1: case before, No, not until you mentioned it to me.
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Speaker 1: All right, So we're going to get into it. We're
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Speaker 1: going to go through a little bit of a timeline,
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Speaker 1: go back in time. So let's go back to the nineties, which,
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Speaker 1: by the way, is my favorite decade. Do you have
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Speaker 1: a favorite.
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Speaker 2: Decade of all of your five, all of.
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Speaker 1: My five decades the.
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Speaker 2: Nineties, that's the number one.
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Speaker 1: Yes, I would like to go back. So. Anna Mariah
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Speaker 1: goes By Moe was born on May eighteenth and nineteen
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Speaker 1: ninety six in Littleton, New Hampshire, and she grew up
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Speaker 1: in Kirby, Vermont. She was born into a very athletic family.
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Speaker 1: Her dad was one spot away from competing in the
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Speaker 1: Olympics for skiing when he was younger. Anne Mariah attended
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Speaker 1: Burke Mountain Academy, which was a specialized school for skiers,
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Speaker 1: and later Dartmouth College, graduating with an engineering degree in
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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. I do know originally she wanted to become
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Speaker 1: a professional skier. I think that's why most of those
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Speaker 1: kids go to this like elite ski school. But she
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Speaker 1: had several injuries I believe, and even had some torn
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Speaker 1: acl or something like that, so ended up giving up
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Speaker 1: on a skiing career. But she ends up becoming a
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Speaker 1: professional gravel and mountain bike racer.
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Speaker 2: That's so funny. One it's like, oh, I'll just have
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Speaker 2: to set aside a potential skiing career and I'll just
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Speaker 2: be a pro biker.
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Speaker 1: Well that just means she's just I know she's athletic,
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Speaker 1: supremely athletic. I didn't know exactly what gravel biking meant,
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Speaker 1: and I meant to look it up, but I assume
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Speaker 1: it just means not mountain biking. It means road gravel.
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Speaker 2: Well probably or not asphalt.
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Speaker 1: She gained national recognition and won major events such as
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Speaker 1: the Sea Otter Classic and Belgian Waffle Ride. That sounds that.
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Speaker 2: Sounds It's not what you think. It sounds very delicious,
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Speaker 2: the Belgium, the.
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Speaker 1: Belgian Waffle Ride, Yes, and the sea Otter Classic. She
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Speaker 1: had a brief romantic relationship in late twenty twenty one
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Speaker 1: with another professional cyclist. His name was Colin Strickland, and
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Speaker 1: he also he's a part of this Netflix documentary, but
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Speaker 1: I don't know if he's like wants to be a
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Speaker 1: part of it, because he is in it, but not reluctant. Well,
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Speaker 1: I just think based upon everything that happens, which we'll
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Speaker 1: get into, I think he emotionally, psychology psychologically, has a
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Speaker 1: lot of issues with his role in all of this,
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Speaker 1: and so they show him in it, but he's he
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Speaker 1: seems aloof and distant, but we'll get into that. So
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Speaker 1: she ends up having this on again off again relationship,
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Speaker 1: not with him. She has a brief romantic relationship with
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Speaker 1: Colin in late twenty twenty one. I guess they meet
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Speaker 1: at some kind of race, and she's very well known.
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Speaker 1: She's been winning a lot of things lately, so I
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Speaker 1: think he's on her radar. I think he asks her
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Speaker 1: to go to lunch or something, and he says, like
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Speaker 1: the first time they meet up, it's very platonic. They
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Speaker 1: just talk about her career and things like that. But
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Speaker 1: he has a girlfriend at home named Caitlyn Armstrong, and
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Speaker 1: I think they have kind.
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Speaker 2: Of did she know they were going to meet?
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Speaker 1: I doubt she had any idea about it, but they
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Speaker 1: end up they meet, he says. When they initially meet,
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Speaker 1: they're just talking about, you know, Mariah's career and where
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Speaker 1: she wants to go and all these things and how
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Speaker 1: he can help her. But he does have a girlfriend
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Speaker 1: at home, so Colin circling and Kaitlyn Armstrong. They let
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Speaker 1: later reconcile, but Caitlyn allegedly became very very jealous of Mariah,
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Speaker 1: worrying about her friendship with Colin, so Colin even changed
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Speaker 1: Mariah's name in his phone in case Kitlyn. Ever looked
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Speaker 1: through it.
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Speaker 2: Have you changed he changed it to to like changed
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Speaker 2: had he changed.
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Speaker 1: Any names in your phone?
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Speaker 2: No?
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Speaker 1: No, no, so you don't have like like John Smith.
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Speaker 1: But it's really some some girl. It's so easy to
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Speaker 1: do that, Like you could just change someone's name to
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Speaker 1: just a male name.
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Speaker 2: God, the kids. We're watching Darman the other day, Like
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Speaker 2: those YouTube videos are like kind of produced videos. Name,
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Speaker 2: you should have a good moral, Like right, I liked
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Speaker 2: Darman and he learned. Yeah, like fifteen minute videos with
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Speaker 2: actors because it's fifteen minutes. They get straight to the point, right,
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Speaker 2: and yeah, it's kind of cheesy.
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Speaker 1: Right, Well, they're targeting kids, so they have to keep
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Speaker 1: it at fifteen minutes.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so I just because anyway, So this is
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Speaker 2: guy he's cheating on his wife and he gets she
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Speaker 2: picks up his phone because it beeps when he gets
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Speaker 2: home from work or whatever. Yeah, she looks at it
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Speaker 2: and had all these hearts, and it was like, hi,
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Speaker 2: my love. You know, lunch was so romantigble or whatever.
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Speaker 2: But it was the name of the contact was the office? Yeah,
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Speaker 2: it was the office. Yeah. She's like, why is the
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Speaker 2: office sending you hearts? Like that was the best he
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Speaker 2: could come up with the office.
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Speaker 1: The office. I like that one. Do you have any
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Speaker 1: contacts that you're called the office? No?
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Speaker 2: I don't, all right.
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Speaker 1: According to law enforcement, Caitlyn express violent sentiments about Mariah beforehand,
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Speaker 1: telling one of her friends that if she ever found
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Speaker 1: out Colin was talking to another girl, she'd quote kill them,
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Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. They interview a friend of Caitlyn,
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Speaker 1: and Kaitlyn's friend in this documentary says that she had
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Speaker 1: a conversation with Caitlyn at some point where Kaitlyn had
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Speaker 1: made reference to Colin. If Colin ever cheated on her,
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Speaker 1: she would kill them or whatever. I don't know. I
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Speaker 1: don't know if that predetermines that you would actually do that,
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Speaker 1: because I feel like that's something that women would say,
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Speaker 1: Like if someone said to you, what would you do
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Speaker 1: if you found out Shane was cheating on you, I'd
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Speaker 1: say I'd kill him. Yeah, But that doesn't mean that
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Speaker 1: I would actually thinks I guess, But I mean, I
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Speaker 1: don't know what woman wouldn't say something like that if
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Speaker 1: they found out that their spouse or boyfriend was cheating
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Speaker 1: on them. All right, let's get to May of twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty two. So Mariah is in Austin, Texas, preparing for
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Speaker 1: an upcoming race. She has a close friend named Cash,
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Speaker 1: who is also in the documentary, and she she's actually
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Speaker 1: a large part of it because she was very integrated
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Speaker 1: into this whole scenario. So so Mariah goes and stays
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Speaker 1: at Cash's house. She meets Colin earlier that same day,
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Speaker 1: and they swam together and have dinner. There's actually they
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Speaker 1: show in the documentary. They show footage, security footage of
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Speaker 1: them together at a restaurant, you know, an outdoor restaurant.
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Speaker 1: They're sharing a meal. I guess they went swimming earlier
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Speaker 1: in the day. Then Mariah goes back to Cash's house afterwards.
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Speaker 1: That's where she's saying. Police later determined that Mariah is
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Speaker 1: shot three times, twice in the head and once in
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Speaker 1: the chest and dies from her wounds at Cash's home.
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Speaker 2: Do we know what number encountering this was? They met once?
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Speaker 2: I saw two.
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Speaker 1: I think they only met maybe twice, and I think
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Speaker 1: maybe there were some text messages between the two of them.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't what I would call a relationship, but a date. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I would say it was. I would say they went
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Speaker 1: on a date, but Colin was living with Caitlin at
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Speaker 1: the time and did not tell Caitlyn. He lied to
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Speaker 1: Caitlin and said that he was going out to run errands,
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Speaker 1: but he ended up meeting up with Mariah having launched
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Speaker 1: going swimming together. And then he's the one that dropped
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Speaker 1: Mariah back off at Cash's house. So he drops Mariah
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Speaker 1: off at Cash's house. I think it was like around
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Speaker 1: eight forty five PM or something like that. I don't
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Speaker 1: remember the exact time, but by I think it was
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Speaker 1: like nine to fifteen PM is when she was shot.
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Speaker 1: And they know exactly when she was shot because the
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Speaker 1: house next door has a security system on it that
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Speaker 1: picks up the gunshots and her screams, so you can
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Speaker 1: actually hear.
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Speaker 2: Did they play that in the documentary audio?
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Speaker 1: No, they showed video of Caitlin's car circling Cash's house
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Speaker 1: because she she looped many, many, many times, so they
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Speaker 1: caught her car on surveillance, like over and over repeatedly,
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Speaker 1: they could actually you know, track it.
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Speaker 2: She had no business being there.
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Speaker 1: Right, So the police know that Colin Strickland was the
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Speaker 1: last person to see or hear from Mariah before her death,
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Speaker 1: so obviously they're going to go to him and start
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Speaker 1: questioning him because they with her. He had dinner with
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Speaker 1: her right and they went swimming, so they have that
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Speaker 1: on surveillance video. They know he was the last person
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Speaker 1: to see her. He's also the one that drops her
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Speaker 1: off right before she's murdered. All right, They bring Kaitlin
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Speaker 1: into the police station for questioning, but she asked to
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Speaker 1: leave and they do not have enough evidence to hold
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Speaker 1: her there.
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Speaker 2: How were they quickly? How did they what made them?
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Speaker 2: I know Caitlin circled and everything the house. How did
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Speaker 2: they connect her? Like? What was the first connection? They
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Speaker 2: had to reach out to her.
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Speaker 1: Because they knew Colin was with Mariah. They know that
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Speaker 1: Colin dates Caitlin. They know that at Colin's house, Caitlyn
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Speaker 1: lives there and she drives like this black suv. I
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Speaker 1: think it's like a like a jeep Cherokee or something.
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Speaker 1: They pulled the surveillance video of Cash's house and they
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Speaker 1: that there's a black suv.
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Speaker 2: That quickly they pulled her in for questioning after the murder.
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Speaker 1: I think it was within days, like they put this.
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Speaker 1: They put this all together pretty quickly. Okay, So they
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Speaker 1: see that when they go talk to Colin they see
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Speaker 1: I think they bring Collin in, but they think they
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Speaker 1: also go to his house. And when they go to
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Speaker 1: his house, they see that there's a black jeep Cherokee
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Speaker 1: or something there. Then they connect he says that's his
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Speaker 1: girlfriend's car. Then they have all this. They pull all
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Speaker 1: the surveillance video of the neighborhood and they see that
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Speaker 1: car circling around Cash's house.
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Speaker 2: Well, he's still not at this point. I'm sure he's
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Speaker 2: not ruled out as a suspect because he's could have
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Speaker 2: taken her car purposefully right to go kill his uh.
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Speaker 1: But they bring Kitlyn into the police station. I think
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Speaker 1: it's interesting because they show they actually show the video
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Speaker 1: of bringing Kitlyn into the interrogation room. This is where
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Speaker 1: I was actually bothered by the police officer because she
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Speaker 1: starts asking her questions and Caitlyn sits there and says nothing.
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Speaker 1: She doesn't answer, she doesn't say a word. M Then
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Speaker 1: she keeps asking her more questions. She's like, you just
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Speaker 1: have to give us our side of the story, and
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Speaker 1: they did that whole It wasn't bad cop, good cop,
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Speaker 1: but it was like bad guy good guy, where they're like,
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Speaker 1: we're talking to Colin right now, over here.
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Speaker 2: I think I hate the absolute most that cops say
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Speaker 2: because I think it's I think it's actually dumb for
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Speaker 2: them to say it. But is when they say I'm
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Speaker 2: just trying to figure out what's going on here, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: because I'd be like, well, I don't give a crap,
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Speaker 2: go figure it out on your own, Like I'm not
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Speaker 2: here to help you with your puzzled thoughts.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, this is exactly they say that.
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Speaker 2: It drives me nuts. Yes, they should say, there's allegations
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Speaker 2: against you, and unless you want to say your side
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Speaker 2: of the story, we're just going to go with the allegations.
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Speaker 1: Well that's basically what she says. So she basically tells Caitlin, Hey,
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Speaker 1: we have Colin and he's in another room and he's
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Speaker 1: telling us one story, so you should talk because you
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Speaker 1: need to tell us your side of the story.
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Speaker 2: It's a little bit better.
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Speaker 1: But she says nothing. Then she said I need an
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Speaker 1: attorney or something that I don't know the exact verbige.
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Speaker 1: I wish I went back and actually let me.
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Speaker 2: I think I remember seeing some of the scenes when
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Speaker 2: you were watching. She did not say like I want
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Speaker 2: an attorney, and that's typically what you need to say
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Speaker 2: I want my attorney. I want a attorney.
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Speaker 1: She said something to the effect of like I think
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Speaker 1: I need an attorney, or I should an attorney.
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Speaker 2: That's like questioning it, like should I call an attorney?
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Speaker 2: I don't know, do you have anything to hide? The
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Speaker 2: thing is, though, I'm just trying to figure out what's
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Speaker 2: going on here, I know.
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Speaker 1: But then the police officer continues questioning her after she
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Speaker 1: says that, and in my mind, I'm thinking, if you
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Speaker 1: have a really good defense attorney, and she says anything
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Speaker 1: after that, you can argue that she unequivalently asked for
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Speaker 1: an attorney, and then everything that she says beyond that
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Speaker 1: point could be dismissed. So it wasn't smart for the
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Speaker 1: police officer to continue to.
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Speaker 2: Question because I waited the police officer didn't respond to her,
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Speaker 2: like throwing out the idea of an attorney. They shouldn't
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Speaker 2: say like well, I don't know do you need one?
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Speaker 2: Well I don't know, do you want to call one? Well,
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Speaker 2: you know, shouldn't say anything. She just went into a
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Speaker 2: question after that, like she almost didn't know what to say.
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Speaker 2: And that's different because now you're not even addressing it.
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Speaker 2: Now you're like giving them the impression that they can't
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Speaker 2: get one because you're not even responding to one.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just kept thinking, probably not smart to continue questioning.
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Speaker 1: So she answers anything that defense attorney is going to
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Speaker 1: get the video of this and then they're going to
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Speaker 1: try to have it all thrown out anyway, So she
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Speaker 1: ends up leaving basically not answering any questions. She does
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Speaker 1: allude to needing an attorney. She gets up, she walks out,
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Speaker 1: so they get nothing from Caitlin. Surveillance footage from a
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Speaker 1: neighbor's house identified Kitln's black cheeps circling the house before
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Speaker 1: coming to a stop. You can hear yelling coming from
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Speaker 1: inside the house, and finally you hear the three gunshots
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Speaker 1: are heard. So you can hear Mariah scream.
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Speaker 2: But you don't know what's being said, right, No.
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Speaker 1: I believe she was shot in a bathroom in the
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Speaker 1: back of the house, like in a bathroom, so.
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Speaker 2: Kitlyn close to the front door.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, so she was She had been in the
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Speaker 1: home for like twenty thirty minutes, so she was probably
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Speaker 1: doing her nighttime. Yeah, she came.
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Speaker 2: Home, Mariah had yes, yes, okay, yeah, so then.
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Speaker 1: I came home from the date was in the house,
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Speaker 1: she was in the bathroom. She was probably getting ready
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Speaker 1: for bed or something. I'm assuming because it doesn't look
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Speaker 1: like there was any kind of break in that the
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Speaker 1: door was probably on the lost.
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Speaker 2: My next question, so she just but she just got
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Speaker 2: in herself. Yeah, so she got lucky if the door
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Speaker 2: was open. I mean, obviously she didn't plan on that.
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Speaker 2: So you're saying it seems like she walked in herself, Caitlin,
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Speaker 2: and then went all the way to where Mariah was
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Speaker 2: in the bathroom.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, there's no video of what actually happened.
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Speaker 2: I thought maybe it was like she chased her into
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Speaker 2: the bathroom after answering the door.
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Speaker 1: I don't think so, because I don't think you can
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Speaker 1: hear any of that. I think you just hear the
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Speaker 1: three shots and screams. So I think she just walked
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Speaker 1: into the house until she found her.
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Speaker 2: Front door in the evening, Like you come home and
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Speaker 2: you know.
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Speaker 1: I don't know because I grew up in Ohio and
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Speaker 1: I'm telling you we never locked our doors.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're also a kid. I'm talking like an adult. No,
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Speaker 2: my mom never locked our doors. Our house was never
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Speaker 2: mom I'm talking about I'm talking about Middle America.
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Speaker 1: I don't know, this is Texas. I don't know. Maybe
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Speaker 1: she just came home and I don't know. Maybe it's
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Speaker 1: not her house, so maybe it wasn't her normal routinely.
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Speaker 2: I don't people don't lock their doors. I get it.
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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like to me, that seems like a
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Speaker 2: normal thing. You would lock your doors because she live alone.
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Speaker 1: So police analyzed phone records and the GPS timeline data.
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Speaker 1: This is on Caitlin's car, So I guess I don't
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Speaker 1: know a lot, but I guess you with with cars
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Speaker 1: that have GPS, you can actually pull where the mapping
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Speaker 1: of where the car has gone. Probably, So really, if
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Speaker 1: you're going to commit crimes, you shouldn't you need to
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Speaker 1: use an old car. You need a burner carr, don't
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Speaker 1: need one of these high tech cars with GPS systems
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Speaker 1: and all this black box info that can say like
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Speaker 1: how fast you were going and are exactly you need
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Speaker 1: a burner car. So the police they analyzed the GPS.
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Speaker 1: They actually in the trial it shows for the jury
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Speaker 1: they draw like a map and it shows how many
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Speaker 1: times around around. Yeah, it's they basically refer to her
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Speaker 1: as like stalking her bekaind of like she.
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Speaker 2: Just drove down this way and then went to seven
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Speaker 2: to eleven and then back. It's like she wasn't going
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Speaker 2: around and around around exactly.
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Speaker 1: She she circled the home numerous times until she finally
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Speaker 1: parked like I think in an alley or something back
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Speaker 1: behind the house. So it showed the whole GPS tracking showed,
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Speaker 1: you know, on a map, all the circles that she
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Speaker 1: made around the house. They noticed that she essentially stalked
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Speaker 1: Mariah and Colin, circling Maria's neighborhood multiple times until he
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Speaker 1: dropped her off. Police recovered firearms from Caitlin.
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Speaker 2: And Collins circling before she got home too, like she
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Speaker 2: was waiting, Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Like lying in wait, like she knew where she was
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Speaker 1: coming home to. She knew he was going to drop
18:01
Speaker 1: her off there. Eventually she was circling.
18:04
Speaker 2: Okay, your female answer this question? What you'r a female?
18:10
Speaker 2: This question? Why would she kill her and not him?
18:15
Speaker 2: Because she's obsessed with him to keep him.
18:17
Speaker 1: They lived together, They had a As far as I
18:20
Speaker 1: can tell, it seemed like they kind of had a
18:21
Speaker 1: volatile relationship with a lot of breakups and get back
18:24
Speaker 1: together type of situations. But they had a business together
18:27
Speaker 1: and he refurbished trailers and she did all the financial work.
18:32
Speaker 2: So they were kind of tied together that way.
18:34
Speaker 1: Yes, and he actually gave her forty thousand dollars to
18:39
Speaker 1: invest into that business, which we'll get to later. But
18:44
Speaker 1: so I think, and I mean, she's she's obviously obsessed
18:48
Speaker 1: with him and the relationship business with a person to
18:52
Speaker 1: go into business.
18:52
Speaker 2: He's not a person to go So you should have
18:55
Speaker 2: done a background check.
18:56
Speaker 1: On her, Yeah, but nothing would have come up. She
18:57
Speaker 1: hadn't murdered anybody before. What's going to come up on
18:59
Speaker 1: a background chat question?
19:01
Speaker 2: Would you kill someone if you found them cheating?
19:05
Speaker 1: So police recovered firearms from Kaitlyn and Collins home. Caitlyn
19:08
Speaker 1: had a nine millimeter handguns. Then it significantly matched the
19:12
Speaker 1: spent casing found at the crime scene. So there's another
19:15
Speaker 1: thing she was not. She she did not plan very.
19:18
Speaker 2: Well because she didn't even she's not a suspect she
19:21
Speaker 2: did it.
19:22
Speaker 1: She didn't even pick up the shell casings. She just
19:25
Speaker 1: walks in the front door, walks to the bathroom, shoots
19:29
Speaker 1: the girl three times, leaves the shell casings behind, gets
19:33
Speaker 1: in the car that she drove around a million times
19:36
Speaker 1: that she got on surveillance and then that has the
19:38
Speaker 1: whole GPS tracking system show sure.
19:43
Speaker 2: Hello.
19:45
Speaker 1: On May seventeenth of twenty twenty two, a first degree
19:49
Speaker 1: murder warrant is officially issued for Kaitlin Armstrong and connection
19:52
Speaker 1: with Moe Wilson's killing. All right, So after the warrant
19:56
Speaker 1: is issued, authorities are unable to locate Katelyn, and this
20:00
Speaker 1: is when the story gets really interesting, so they issue
20:03
Speaker 1: a warrant out for her arrest, but they later realize
20:07
Speaker 1: that they can't find her.
20:08
Speaker 2: She has disappeared, so I now remember this.
20:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, they do really se that she flew to Newark,
20:15
Speaker 1: New Jersey, which is where her sister lives, So they
20:17
Speaker 1: think that she flies there to find her sister or
20:20
Speaker 1: to hang out with her sister to be with.
20:22
Speaker 2: That's flying to her sister's hometown, yes.
20:25
Speaker 1: But then she's not there and they can't find her
20:30
Speaker 1: anywhere else. So what she's done is she used her
20:34
Speaker 1: sister's passport to fly out of the country and though
20:38
Speaker 1: I guess she flies through multiple states before finally flying
20:41
Speaker 1: on to Costa Rica, So I guess they track her
20:45
Speaker 1: sister's passport to finally figure out that she that she
20:49
Speaker 1: traveled to So they're.
20:50
Speaker 2: Like, there was documentation of her flying to her sister's
20:53
Speaker 2: home town or state, and then there's documentation of her
20:57
Speaker 2: sister leaving the state. So they're putting that together, so like, Okay,
21:01
Speaker 2: we can't see her, but we see her sister.
21:03
Speaker 1: So I guess the sister was not charged with anything
21:08
Speaker 1: because she claimed that she did not know that her
21:11
Speaker 1: sister was going to take the passport and leave the country.
21:14
Speaker 1: But I wish they would have talked more about the
21:16
Speaker 1: sister and the documentary. I felt like that was a
21:18
Speaker 1: large missing piece of.
21:20
Speaker 2: Information, whether she's involved or not. Of course she's gonna
21:23
Speaker 2: say I'm not involved.
21:25
Speaker 1: No I know, and I get that, but I wish
21:27
Speaker 1: they would have. I just wish they would have gone
21:29
Speaker 1: into a little bit more detail about the sister and
21:31
Speaker 1: her role and if she wasn't charged, why she wasn't.
21:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I hear they did this saying the fact
21:36
Speaker 2: that they didn't, that's not enough for me. The questions
21:40
Speaker 2: are still there. Was she involved? I mean, yeah, I
21:43
Speaker 2: get it, she said she wasn't, but right, come on.
21:45
Speaker 1: So Caitlin spends forty three days on the run primarily
21:49
Speaker 1: in Costa Rica using false identities. I thought it was
21:53
Speaker 1: interesting that they so they send like a task force
21:55
Speaker 1: to Costa Rica. They know she's in Costa Rica, but
21:58
Speaker 1: they can't find her.
22:00
Speaker 2: Volunteers are like, i'll go, I'll go, I'll go.
22:02
Speaker 1: So there's people. So there's this whole force in Costa
22:06
Speaker 1: Rica looking for her, and they almost give up. They
22:09
Speaker 1: cannot find her in Costa Rica.
22:10
Speaker 2: It is walk up and down the streets a woman.
22:13
Speaker 1: I don't know, I would think so, But while she
22:16
Speaker 1: is in Costa Rica, I thought this was really interesting.
22:19
Speaker 1: She undergoes plastic surgery surgery in Costa Rica to alter
22:23
Speaker 1: her appearance and look more like her sister.
22:26
Speaker 2: And I guess that's why it maybe, in other words,
22:28
Speaker 2: more like her passport, more likesport her new passport.
22:31
Speaker 1: Right, So, I don't understand why she undergoes surgery to
22:34
Speaker 1: look more like her sister, because I'm sure she knows
22:38
Speaker 1: at this point that they know she sold her sister's passport. No,
22:42
Speaker 1: how would she think that because she's hiding in Costa Rica.
22:45
Speaker 1: I'm sure that she knows that they're probably English. She
22:47
Speaker 1: thought she outsmarted them. So you don't think she has
22:49
Speaker 1: any idea that there's anybody in Costa Rica looking for her?
22:52
Speaker 1: Oh all right, well would she because she's hiding there.
22:56
Speaker 1: It's not like she's openly walking around Costa Rica. I
22:59
Speaker 1: mean she they they're in Cooaster Rebia because they couldn't
23:02
Speaker 1: find her. You think she was hiding even further? Yeah, No,
23:06
Speaker 1: I think it's hard. It was laning in the country
23:07
Speaker 1: and there's just walking around saying we've seen this woman.
23:09
Speaker 1: Her surgeon is doctor Jorge Badilla, and he actually was
23:13
Speaker 1: on an episode of Dateline and he said that Caitlin
23:17
Speaker 1: underwent and estimated six thousand dollars worth of plastic surgery,
23:20
Speaker 1: including lip fillers, rhino plastic, and a brow lift.
23:25
Speaker 2: So her sister has bigger lips and a smaller nose.
23:29
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, First of all, six thousand dollars worth of
23:32
Speaker 1: surgery is not a lot. I feel like that's a
23:36
Speaker 1: very minimal amount of money to do.
23:38
Speaker 2: Like, that's a lot of classic surgery on your face.
23:40
Speaker 2: Slip filler is just lip filler, right, like this inject it? Yeah,
23:44
Speaker 2: and then.
23:45
Speaker 1: But a but a browlift.
23:47
Speaker 2: The browlift was the surgeon.
23:48
Speaker 1: And a nose job of six thousand dollars. That's a deal. Yeah,
23:53
Speaker 1: that's a deal. But I don't know. I don't know.
23:55
Speaker 1: I anyway, I don't know if she the lipfiller kills
24:00
Speaker 1: me though. That's the funny part. She's like, I want
24:01
Speaker 1: to look like my sister because I have to elude
24:03
Speaker 1: the police. But please make sure right if you fill
24:05
Speaker 1: my lips. Us Marshals are finally able to locate Caitlin
24:09
Speaker 1: after placing an undercover ad seeking a yoga instructor. I
24:12
Speaker 1: thought that was hilarious.
24:13
Speaker 2: That's part like, wait, how long is she in Costa Rica?
24:16
Speaker 1: She's there for like forty three days and they can't
24:18
Speaker 1: find her. But she has this background as a yoga instructor.
24:22
Speaker 1: So they make a false advertisement at a yoga studio.
24:26
Speaker 2: I guess.
24:27
Speaker 1: So they make a false ad at a yoga studio
24:30
Speaker 1: that says looking for a yoga instructor, and she comes
24:34
Speaker 1: and applies for the job, and that's how they catch her.
24:38
Speaker 1: I mean, this woman's been.
24:39
Speaker 2: Hiding of a task force.
24:41
Speaker 1: Well that's the part where I'm like, Okay, so she
24:44
Speaker 1: eluded the police. She ends up in Costa Rica. She
24:46
Speaker 1: has plastic surgery. No one catches her while she has
24:49
Speaker 1: plastic surgery. No, but then she shows up for a
24:52
Speaker 1: yoga instructor job and they nab her. So that's how
24:55
Speaker 1: they find her. On June twenty ninth of twenty twenty two,
25:06
Speaker 1: Caitlin is arrested at a hostel in Santa Teresa, Costa
25:09
Speaker 1: Rica and later extradited back to Texas. Then we get
25:13
Speaker 1: to July twenty first of twenty twenty two.
25:17
Speaker 2: So she was going to work in Costa Rica. Yeah,
25:19
Speaker 2: I guess she was just going to be like she
25:21
Speaker 2: was going to just stay there as a resident.
25:23
Speaker 1: And be a yoga and story.
25:24
Speaker 2: Then why I look like her sister?
25:26
Speaker 1: Because then she doesn't look like herself.
25:27
Speaker 2: I don't know she is in Costa Rica.
25:30
Speaker 1: I don't know what her long term goal is here.
25:32
Speaker 2: Do we know that she was trying to look like
25:33
Speaker 2: your sister or she just want to live fill her
25:36
Speaker 2: I know it. I don't know, but oh, I'm serious.
25:40
Speaker 2: So you don't know she used her passport in order
25:42
Speaker 2: to leave the country and it worked, yes, but do
25:45
Speaker 2: you know we don't know that she was trying to
25:46
Speaker 2: look like her sister and come back, well not come back.
25:49
Speaker 1: I think maybe she was just trying to look like
25:52
Speaker 1: her sister, so she doesn't look like herself.
25:55
Speaker 2: Oh, I guess, well she's also like, so she goes
25:57
Speaker 2: down to Costa Rica and she's like, I changed my looks, yeah,
26:00
Speaker 2: and I might as well get some lip filler while
26:02
Speaker 2: I'm out right. And then she's like, and I might
26:04
Speaker 2: as well look like this passport that I have here, right,
26:06
Speaker 2: because other wayse I have no identity, right, Okay, So
26:09
Speaker 2: it wasn't like so, yeah, she was trying to look
26:12
Speaker 2: like her sister.
26:12
Speaker 1: I don't I guess I don't, hope. So again, so
26:15
Speaker 1: she used the six thousand dollars, but the six thousand
26:17
Speaker 1: dollars came from the forty thousand dollars that Colin had
26:20
Speaker 1: given her to invest in the business that they had together.
26:24
Speaker 1: So I believe I think she took all the forty
26:26
Speaker 1: thousand and that's when she ran. So she had that
26:30
Speaker 1: access to that money.
26:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she spent sixty six thousand of it. Yeah
26:35
Speaker 2: on plastic surgery.
26:36
Speaker 1: Yes. So she's arraigned. This is in July twenty first.
26:40
Speaker 1: At twenty twenty two, she is arraigned in Travis County,
26:42
Speaker 1: Texas on a charge of first degree murder and pleads
26:45
Speaker 1: not guilty Her trial begins October thirtieth of twenty twenty three,
26:50
Speaker 1: So prosecutors argue that jealousy over Mariah's connection with Colin
26:55
Speaker 1: Strickland is her motive. Caitlin's defense team focused on challengelenging
27:00
Speaker 1: the prosecution's evidence and narrative, though they did not present
27:04
Speaker 1: an alternate suspect.
27:06
Speaker 2: Wait, wait a minute, So if she's going to live
27:08
Speaker 2: in Costa Rica, you're still we are back in Ti.
27:11
Speaker 2: She's gonna live in Costa Rica?
27:13
Speaker 1: Okay?
27:14
Speaker 2: I mean, was she not going to be with her boyfriend? Like,
27:17
Speaker 2: what was the plan there with that relationship?
27:19
Speaker 1: No? I think she took the forty thousand and left.
27:21
Speaker 1: I mean she just murdered someone earlier. I asked, why
27:25
Speaker 1: did she kill her instead of her boyfriend?
27:28
Speaker 2: Right? I mean she shouldn't kill anyone anyway, But why
27:30
Speaker 2: she You think if she's mad and she doesn't like
27:32
Speaker 2: this affair, she's killed the boyfriend and then go to
27:36
Speaker 2: Costa Rica Because maybe she says she killed the girl,
27:38
Speaker 2: that let's the boy live and then she flees to
27:42
Speaker 2: Costa Rica.
27:43
Speaker 1: Yes, because she can have plastic surgery, teach yoga for
27:46
Speaker 1: a while, and then she can reach out to him
27:49
Speaker 1: and ask him to join her in Costa Rica and
27:51
Speaker 1: they could live happily ever after.
27:54
Speaker 2: That.
27:54
Speaker 1: I don't know.
27:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, I know why she left the
27:56
Speaker 2: three cases behind. Why because she's like, I'm going to
27:59
Speaker 2: Costa Rica. I don't I'm gonna get lip filler exactly.
28:02
Speaker 2: They'll never catch me. Doctor Lora is next week.
28:04
Speaker 1: Yes, so the prosecution's key evidence and arguments. They presented
28:10
Speaker 1: evidence linking Armstrong's registered firearm to the same shell, casings
28:14
Speaker 1: from the scene and ballistic matches supported the conclusion that Yeah,
28:22
Speaker 1: and I think Colin bought it for her, and I
28:24
Speaker 1: don't know how long they had it. I think he
28:26
Speaker 1: had a gun and she had gone because I do
28:27
Speaker 1: remember in the documentary he says that they have two guns.
28:31
Speaker 2: Was Texas?
28:32
Speaker 1: It is Texas. Digital evidence the GPS and phone data
28:35
Speaker 1: were used to track Armstrong's movements on the day of
28:38
Speaker 1: the killing. There was also the surveillance video we talked
28:41
Speaker 1: about that the footage placing Armstrong's vehicle near the crime
28:45
Speaker 1: scene around the time of the shooting was shown to
28:47
Speaker 1: the jury, and then the audio and the crime scene
28:51
Speaker 1: reconstruction was shown to the jury. In some quurt does.
28:54
Speaker 2: She make any effort other than go to Costa Rica.
28:58
Speaker 2: She probably thought she had this full proof plan just
29:02
Speaker 2: her her go to Costa Rica. Yeah, and that's the
29:06
Speaker 2: movie Fletch show you Chase remember that. Yeah, he he
29:11
Speaker 2: was hired to kill Yes. But anyways, but the guy
29:14
Speaker 2: that says I want you to kill me because I
29:16
Speaker 2: have cancer and I'm dying. Oh yeah, he really is
29:19
Speaker 2: a plan where no, actually, when you come and come
29:22
Speaker 2: at night to kill me, I'm going to kill you
29:24
Speaker 2: Fletch and burn your body and take your passport and
29:28
Speaker 2: flee the country. Oh and he was going to take
29:30
Speaker 2: his someone that had a similar build to him. Oh yeah,
29:36
Speaker 2: Well she watched that episode.
29:38
Speaker 1: Well maybe I don't know where Costa Rica comes in
29:41
Speaker 1: in the lip filler.
29:42
Speaker 2: But well, because she took someone's passport and she was
29:45
Speaker 2: going to be like, I'm going to be this person.
29:46
Speaker 2: That guy took Fletch's passport and said I'm going to
29:48
Speaker 2: be this person.
29:50
Speaker 1: In some courtroom presentations, prosecutors played audio from surveillance that
29:54
Speaker 1: included the sound of the gunshots and evidence about the
29:56
Speaker 1: sequence and proximity of the shots.
29:58
Speaker 2: I mean, basically, you.
29:59
Speaker 1: Could just do a whole reconstruction for the jury, you
30:01
Speaker 1: put all the timeline together of where she's on surveillance
30:04
Speaker 1: with Colin at launch and swimming, and then that shows
30:07
Speaker 1: him drop her off. At this time, it shows Kitlin
30:10
Speaker 1: circling the house.
30:11
Speaker 2: So her whole plan was, I don't need to do
30:13
Speaker 2: anything to try to cover up my crime because I'm
30:16
Speaker 2: just gonna go to coastreak right.
30:17
Speaker 1: Friends, law enforcement officials, forensic experts, and cycling community members
30:21
Speaker 1: provided testimony about Mariah Wilson's life, her relationship with Colin Strickland,
30:26
Speaker 1: and Kitlyn Armstrong's behavior before and after the shooting. The
30:32
Speaker 1: defense attempted to suppress certain evidence, including statements made by police,
30:36
Speaker 1: by arguing they were obtained without proper miranda warnings. These
30:40
Speaker 1: motions were rejected, and the defense questioned the interpretation of
30:44
Speaker 1: the evidence and suggested there were gaps in the case,
30:47
Speaker 1: but no compelling alternate theory of the crime was effectively
30:50
Speaker 1: offered to the jury.
30:52
Speaker 2: They could even come up with them.
30:53
Speaker 1: I know, I feel like she should have just like
30:56
Speaker 1: tried to.
30:56
Speaker 2: Her defense streams probably insulted. They're like do you even try?
31:00
Speaker 2: I know, like, how do we even give you know?
31:04
Speaker 1: They did bring her her bicycle into court, which I
31:09
Speaker 1: think was I think it was very emotional for her
31:12
Speaker 1: friends and family to see her bike done.
31:14
Speaker 2: Just bring some element of well.
31:17
Speaker 1: It's because it was part of the evidence that was
31:19
Speaker 1: that was presented because I guess after Caitlyn shot her,
31:24
Speaker 1: she grabbed her bike, took it out of the house,
31:26
Speaker 1: and threw it in some bushes, and yeah, I think
31:30
Speaker 1: it was just I think, yeah, I think, yeah, I
31:34
Speaker 1: think she just hated this girl so much and was
31:36
Speaker 1: like so bothered that she had anything to do with
31:39
Speaker 1: her man that she killed her and then grabbed the
31:42
Speaker 1: thing that she loves the most in life, her bike,
31:45
Speaker 1: and threw it into the bushes. So basically, they extracted
31:48
Speaker 1: DNA from the bike and it had her her DNA
31:53
Speaker 1: on the bike, but they brought the bike into the
31:56
Speaker 1: courtroom as evidence, and then I remember the defense attorney
31:59
Speaker 1: was arguing that, like, there was no DNA from his
32:03
Speaker 1: client found on like the center of the bike where
32:06
Speaker 1: you would have picked it up. I mean, that was
32:07
Speaker 1: the best argument he could come up with. So after spot, yeah,
32:14
Speaker 1: it wasn't where someone would normally pick up the bike.
32:17
Speaker 1: So I was like, wow, why did she take a
32:20
Speaker 1: plea deal or something? I don't like, I mean try
32:24
Speaker 1: to you know, to go from first degree down to
32:26
Speaker 1: I don't know, manslaughter or something, but said she wants
32:30
Speaker 1: a trial. After hearing the evidence and arguments, the twelve
32:33
Speaker 1: person jury deliberated for only a few hours before reaching
32:35
Speaker 1: a verdict. They probably just sat around for a few
32:38
Speaker 1: hours because they were like, we can't just like, we
32:41
Speaker 1: can't just go back out, so let's just like, let's
32:44
Speaker 1: just hang out here for a little bit. A jury
32:46
Speaker 1: finds Caitlin Armstrong guilty of first degree murder after deliberating
32:50
Speaker 1: for several hours. You know, the first degree murder, it's
32:54
Speaker 1: which is premeditated. It's so easy to look at the premeditation.
32:58
Speaker 1: There was the gun, it was the dry around. I
33:01
Speaker 1: mean it was it was planned. You know, there were
33:03
Speaker 1: multiple times where she could have.
33:06
Speaker 2: Handled plastic surgery before she even killed this lady.
33:09
Speaker 1: You think, yeah, you think she called a doctor and
33:13
Speaker 1: in Costa Rica and scheduled the plastic surgery before she
33:16
Speaker 1: shot her.
33:17
Speaker 2: What do you think You think it was a walk in? Yeah,
33:19
Speaker 2: just went to Costa Rica and then walked into plastursion.
33:22
Speaker 1: She was there for forty something days.
33:23
Speaker 2: She could have did she have the surgery.
33:25
Speaker 1: I don't know what day she had a consultation. I
33:27
Speaker 1: don't know what day she had the surgery. But I'm
33:29
Speaker 1: just saying she I doubt that she pre planned the
33:32
Speaker 1: surgery that much.
33:33
Speaker 2: Oh you're gonna okay, you're gonna give her credit.
33:35
Speaker 1: Well, that just seems like she I don't know.
33:39
Speaker 2: So you think, Okay, do you think she pre planned
33:41
Speaker 2: to go to Costa Rica before she pulled the trigger?
33:44
Speaker 1: No? I think she pulled the trigger because she hated
33:47
Speaker 1: this girl so much and she couldn't think about anything else.
33:50
Speaker 2: So then she thought, oh crap, I better go to
33:52
Speaker 2: Costa Rica.
33:53
Speaker 1: No, she thought, oh crap, I better leave the country.
33:56
Speaker 2: But you don't think you're saying that you believe she
33:59
Speaker 2: thought of leaving the country after she committed the crime.
34:03
Speaker 1: Yes, because I don't think she thought she would get caught.
34:05
Speaker 1: I don't think she understood how easy it would be
34:08
Speaker 1: to catch her. So I think after they brought her
34:12
Speaker 1: in and questioned her so soon, and she said I
34:16
Speaker 1: think I need an attorney or I want an attorney
34:18
Speaker 1: or whatever, and she left, that's when she had to
34:20
Speaker 1: hatch a plan to leave the country.
34:24
Speaker 2: Kaylan Armstrong, this matters, By the way, but.
34:26
Speaker 1: We're just clarious. Kaylan Armstrong is sentenced to ninety years
34:30
Speaker 1: in prison, eligible for parole after thirty years. I don't
34:33
Speaker 1: even think she should be eligible for parole. I'm sorry
34:36
Speaker 1: that will someone when you can't deal premeditated she was
34:39
Speaker 1: convicted of, yes, but she's eligible for parole after thirty years,
34:43
Speaker 1: which I disagree with. She just she has been in
34:45
Speaker 1: prison for life. Yeah, because you tell me that you're
34:50
Speaker 1: the kind of person that can't deal with some jealousy.
34:53
Speaker 1: That that's how, that's how you take matters into your
34:55
Speaker 1: own hand. You can't deal with jealousy. You murder someone, right,
34:58
Speaker 1: and then remeditate it premeditated murder, and then you leave
35:01
Speaker 1: the country and you elude police for as long as
35:04
Speaker 1: possible to live a different life, and then you should
35:08
Speaker 1: be eligible for pearol and thirty years. I disagree with that.
35:10
Speaker 2: I strongly disagree with that. They should premeditate her. You know, death,
35:17
Speaker 2: what put her to? Put her down?
35:19
Speaker 1: Put her down?
35:20
Speaker 2: She had a dog, You don't think so you don't
35:22
Speaker 2: think she should get the death penalty.
35:24
Speaker 1: No, I said she should either get the death penalty
35:29
Speaker 1: or life without pearol. An that's what I'm saying, anyone
35:32
Speaker 1: who cannot deal with jealousy in a relationship and stalk
35:37
Speaker 1: someone and so easily and circles their house and then
35:42
Speaker 1: walks into their home and fires a gun three times
35:45
Speaker 1: at their face, well twice in her head and once
35:48
Speaker 1: in her chest, and then calmly walks out and goes
35:51
Speaker 1: the bike out and tosses the bike in the bushes,
35:54
Speaker 1: and then goes into the police station and sits there
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Speaker 1: and doesn't say a word.
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Speaker 2: Hatches a plan put her down like a dog.
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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty four, Mariah's family files a wrongful death
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Speaker 1: lawsuit against Caitlyn Armstrong. A judge awards them fifteen million
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Speaker 1: in damages to cover emotional distress and to prevent Armstrong
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Speaker 1: from profiting off of her crime. You know, I don't
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Speaker 1: I understand why you would want to file a wrongful
36:22
Speaker 1: death lawsuit just because you are hurt and angry. But
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Speaker 1: when you get a judgment for fifteen million in damages,
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Speaker 1: you're not How are you going to get fifteen million
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Speaker 1: dollars from this girl? I mean, that's never going to happen,
36:34
Speaker 1: and she.
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Speaker 2: Was already sent I don't think homicides covered a homeowner's
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Speaker 2: insurance policy.
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Speaker 1: There's no money, no, I mean she had forty thousand,
36:43
Speaker 1: she spent six because classic surgery.
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Speaker 2: There might be personal reasons too, just maybe principle and
36:48
Speaker 2: because you can. It's probably such an easy win, right
36:51
Speaker 2: because you already have a criminal conviction, so to go
36:53
Speaker 2: get a civil conviction or a civil judgment is pretty
36:57
Speaker 2: easily done. And maybe if there's right or things later
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Speaker 2: down the road, or should she buy a lottery ticket
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Speaker 2: or something or inherent something.
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Speaker 1: I guess she can't ever tell her story or do interview.
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Speaker 2: If you can't anyway, you can't profit off crying. But
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Speaker 2: I don't know how that works.
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Speaker 1: But no. The family also forms the Mariah Wilson Foundation
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Speaker 1: to support cycling and youth sports causes. You know, her
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Speaker 1: her mom in the trial, it showed her mom. I
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Speaker 1: guess it was probably at the sentin same phase where
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Speaker 1: her mom went up, you know, because you could do
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Speaker 1: a victim impact statement. Her mom spoke. It was it's
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Speaker 1: so emotional to see family members and how they're affected.
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Speaker 1: It's so sad when a young life is taken. So,
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Speaker 1: I mean, this girl was just riding her bike. She
37:40
Speaker 1: was such a nice person. It really, they'd really just
37:43
Speaker 1: talk about how kind she was, and she was just
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Speaker 1: so into sports, and she was athletic, and all she
37:47
Speaker 1: did was go to lunch with this guy. I think
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Speaker 1: there was some text messages, and I'm sure she was
37:52
Speaker 1: maybe interested in him. But you know. In April of
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, the documentary which is what we've been
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Speaker 1: talking about, The Truth and Tragedy of Mariah Wilson, It
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Speaker 1: premiered on Netflix, exploring her life, career, and the events
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Speaker 1: surrounding her murder. The case remains one of the most
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Speaker 1: widely discussed murders in recent years, given its connection to
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Speaker 1: the cycling community and the dramatic manhunt that followed. You know,
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Speaker 1: also at the end of the documentary, they do show
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Speaker 1: Colin Strickland. He doesn't talk much, but he does. They
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Speaker 1: show him kind of tinkering around in his garage and
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Speaker 1: he does he doesn't cycle anymore, he abandoned that and
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Speaker 1: he says something.
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Speaker 2: Of that related to this.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, you can tell he's not emotionally or mentally. Oh,
38:40
Speaker 1: that was another thing I was going to talk about.
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Speaker 1: He did testify in court and he you could tell
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Speaker 1: he did not want to be there. He like his
38:50
Speaker 1: head was low. He didn't want to talk. It was
38:53
Speaker 1: I think it was hard for him to answer questions.
38:56
Speaker 1: But I think it was just because from my perspective,
38:59
Speaker 1: it seemed like the internal guilt that he had over
39:02
Speaker 1: the whole situation was eating him alive. Because he says
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Speaker 1: at the end of this documentary. He doesn't say a lot,
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Speaker 1: but he does say something to the effect of, if
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Speaker 1: he could go back in time, he would have never cycled.
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Speaker 1: He would have never like, there were so many things
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Speaker 1: that he would have never done because.
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Speaker 2: He's probably going on a date while he's with his
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Speaker 2: lady living.
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Speaker 1: Right, well, right, I mean, I think he holds so
39:25
Speaker 1: much guilt within himself because even though he didn't pull
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Speaker 1: the trigger, and I mean, yeah it was.
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Speaker 2: He be It's like survivor's guilt. That's like, you didn't
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Speaker 2: do anything wrong, but you certainly don't well argue. I mean,
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Speaker 2: he was kind of a he wasn't He certainly had
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Speaker 2: no reason to foresee murder, right other than the fact
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Speaker 2: that his living girlfriend said she would kill and she
39:48
Speaker 2: ever cheated.
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Speaker 1: She was crazy and they had a volatile relationship. But
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Speaker 1: I don't know if it was actually instruction, well, I
39:53
Speaker 1: don't know if it was ever to the extreme that
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Speaker 1: he actually I don't think he was ever on any
39:56
Speaker 1: kind of notice that she would do what she did.
40:01
Speaker 1: He obviously knew she was jealous because he was changing
40:03
Speaker 1: the name in his phone and he was lying to her.
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Speaker 2: So he was no, no, no, yea, he was no,
40:10
Speaker 2: not because she was jealous. A guy would do that
40:13
Speaker 2: because he's being secretive and cheating. Yeah, it's not a
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Speaker 2: matter of like, my girlfriend's cool with me hanging out
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Speaker 2: with other girls. I don't need to change the name
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Speaker 2: in my phone. That's on him. That's on him. Yes,
40:25
Speaker 2: I was doing something wrong.
40:26
Speaker 1: I'm saying he's a douchebag, but he's only guilty of
40:28
Speaker 1: it being a douchebag, not a murder not a murderer.
40:31
Speaker 1: But anyway, at the end of the documentary, he basically
40:34
Speaker 1: like he just it seems like he pulled away from
40:37
Speaker 1: life like it didn't seem like he was very social.
40:40
Speaker 1: I don't think he of friends. He doesn't cycle.
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Speaker 2: Anymore because he has some moral character on like Caitlin.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's.
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Speaker 2: He feels awful for the tragedy exactly. Okay, I looked
40:52
Speaker 2: it up quickly. Okay, what date was Mariah murdered. Do
40:57
Speaker 2: we remember the date.
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Speaker 1: I have to go back and look at the time.
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Speaker 2: Actually, it's May eleventh, I have right here in front
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Speaker 2: of me. All right, it's quizzing you. It says that
41:06
Speaker 2: she it's very quickly after the murder, she sold her vehicle,
41:12
Speaker 2: and she withdrew money, and she used cash only, and
41:16
Speaker 2: she obtained obviously the passport, then flew to Puerto Rican,
41:20
Speaker 2: Puerto Rican, corduroy Rico, Costa Rica, Costa Rica. Yeah, so
41:25
Speaker 2: it was believed that she whether she planted in her head,
41:27
Speaker 2: I don't know, but she definitely took all the steps
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Speaker 2: necessary after the murder to flee to Costa Rica and
41:33
Speaker 2: buy like a passport or a ticket beforehand.
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Speaker 1: No, that's what I'm saying. I don't think she thought
41:38
Speaker 1: she was going to be caught coffee, Yeah, because I'm
41:40
Speaker 1: telling you, I think she was such she had she
41:42
Speaker 1: was such a narcissist and has such an.
41:43
Speaker 2: Ego sozoned in on the murder instead of anything else.
41:46
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think.
41:46
Speaker 2: And then when they pulled her in a couple days
41:48
Speaker 2: and they probably pressed her pretty hard, She's like, I
41:49
Speaker 2: want an attorney. Yeah, she probably went to an attorney.
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Speaker 1: I doubt it. I think no, I think her plan.
41:54
Speaker 1: I think once they pulled her into that interrogation room
41:57
Speaker 1: and she was a suspect, she began to I think
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Speaker 1: she and she said, I'm not answering any questions and
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Speaker 1: I need an attorney or whatever it was that she said,
42:03
Speaker 1: and she left. I think the minute she left is
42:05
Speaker 1: when her head was spending and she was like, how
42:07
Speaker 1: do I gotta get money and I gotta get out
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Speaker 1: of the country and how am I going to do that?
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Speaker 1: And that's what she did. Yeah, all right, guys, thank
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