Latest / Foul Territory / Griffin Jax’s favorite stats, Air Force days
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- 0:00Speaker 1: There's plenty of times I've gone out there and my
- 0:02Speaker 1: name doesn't get announced until I'm about to throw the
- 0:04Speaker 1: first pitch. You know, it's almost like just like a reliever,
- 0:07Speaker 1: we're forgotten about until you know.
- 0:08Speaker 2: We're on the mountain.
- 0:13Speaker 3: Twin super reliever Griffin Jack joining us right now on
- 0:16Speaker 3: FT Griffin. Great to have you on. Thanks for waiting
- 0:19Speaker 3: for a quick moment. Here has the off season going, man?
- 0:22Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks guys for having me. It's been a good
- 0:25Speaker 1: off season, you know, kind of went and down. I
- 0:26Speaker 1: head to Florida here in a couple of weeks, but
- 0:28Speaker 1: it's been a good one.
- 0:31Speaker 4: Where are you based? Where are you based in the
- 0:32Speaker 4: off season?
- 0:33Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 0:33Speaker 4: Where you're at?
- 0:34Speaker 2: We live in Phoenix, which is unfortunate because I gotta
- 0:37Speaker 2: go to Florida for spring.
- 0:38Speaker 4: Oh that's a great thing for you. Lucky love, very lucky,
- 0:41Speaker 4: very lucky. You get to come to God's Gone Fort Myers,
- 0:44Speaker 4: I know for misery.
- 0:46Speaker 3: There's been a sushie spot there. Yeah, I don't remember
- 0:49Speaker 3: the name, but there's a good one, good sushi spot.
- 0:51Speaker 4: For there's one good sushi spot. Charis. You can hit
- 0:54Speaker 4: that every other day. When's last time you were in
- 0:56Speaker 4: four Myers. It's grown like amazingly.
- 0:58Speaker 3: I've been in four Myers fifteen times in the last
- 1:01Speaker 3: three years.
- 1:01Speaker 4: It's gotten so much bigger. Actually, when I was there
- 1:03Speaker 4: twenty five years ago, there was nothing. There was pots
- 1:05Speaker 4: right by the stadium, the Chicken Wing bar.
- 1:07Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, got pots. Fuh Yeah. It's done a lot
- 1:12Speaker 2: different from twenty sixteen for sure.
- 1:15Speaker 5: But Griffin, when you first came on, and people will
- 1:18Speaker 5: have to rewind this, you were going like this right
- 1:21Speaker 5: when first came on. Are you at that point in
- 1:23Speaker 5: the off season where you're like, all right, man, like
- 1:25Speaker 5: I'm starting to throw, like I'm kind of always giving
- 1:28Speaker 5: myself a little soft tissue massage. Are you at that point?
- 1:31Speaker 5: Are you like, I'm good, Like I don't need to
- 1:34Speaker 5: I don't need to be hucking the rock right now.
- 1:38Speaker 1: I think I'm just at that point in life, just
- 1:41Speaker 1: waking up and it's not feeling as good as it
- 1:43Speaker 1: used to know, But whatever you gotta do to throw.
- 1:47Speaker 4: Okay, well it reliever. Listen, you're a reliever. Throws some
- 1:50Speaker 4: tiger bomb on that thing had the orange sleeve and
- 1:53Speaker 4: let's go baby.
- 1:54Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I got a good concoction.
- 1:58Speaker 4: When you make your own yeah, that's what I want
- 2:01Speaker 4: to make.
- 2:04Speaker 2: You know how the training room has all the different
- 2:06Speaker 2: sprays and creams.
- 2:07Speaker 1: I basically just go down the line and whatever I see,
- 2:09Speaker 1: I throw on the arm.
- 2:15Speaker 4: Say that again, because it just shoulder. You do the
- 2:19Speaker 4: whole arm, just shoulder.
- 2:20Speaker 2: H whole arm, shoulder, shoulder to the wrist.
- 2:25Speaker 4: Have you bottled it?
- 2:26Speaker 5: Because I know some guys will go like a little
- 2:29Speaker 5: anti inflammatory cream, a little light a cane, a little
- 2:34Speaker 5: and bottle it, and so they always have their own.
- 2:36Speaker 5: Or do you just go down? Do you just go
- 2:38Speaker 5: down like a buffet and just take a little bit
- 2:41Speaker 5: of each.
- 2:42Speaker 1: I can't do the light of cane because I need
- 2:44Speaker 1: to feel my arm. I don't like the feeling of
- 2:46Speaker 1: or I guess the lack of feeling, uh, the numb
- 2:49Speaker 1: I'm not good with. And I guess it just depends
- 2:51Speaker 1: on where we are in the season. But yeah, it's
- 2:53Speaker 1: basically just starting. We got this thing called cookie cream
- 2:56Speaker 1: and that's amazing. And then yeah, some anti flame toy
- 3:00Speaker 1: cream for sure, and usually by the time I'm sweating
- 3:02Speaker 1: and it gets activated, I'm ready to go.
- 3:06Speaker 4: Now do you go to the bullpen in like the
- 3:08Speaker 4: fifth inning?
- 3:09Speaker 2: A guy Duran and I go down to the fourth.
- 3:16Speaker 4: What do you do? I I always want to know
- 3:20Speaker 4: what the pitchers do the first three innings because what
- 3:22Speaker 4: do you I mean, I'm out there grinding and you
- 3:24Speaker 4: guys are in there in a massage chair watching TV,
- 3:28Speaker 4: sipping you know, selzer water and having bond bonds. But
- 3:32Speaker 4: we're out there grinding for the first three dings. Tell
- 3:35Speaker 4: me what you do. Well.
- 3:36Speaker 1: Part of it is sort of respect for the position
- 3:38Speaker 1: players because they need to get their treatment, you know,
- 3:40Speaker 1: pregame and and you know, before the game starts. So
- 3:44Speaker 1: I'm waiting until they're all out until the first inning
- 3:46Speaker 1: to sort of get my hands on with the trainer.
- 3:49Speaker 1: But you know, it's some stretching, some rolling out, some
- 3:52Speaker 1: extra activation stuff.
- 3:56Speaker 2: Okay, Griffin had a good year.
- 3:58Speaker 4: I had a great year.
- 3:58Speaker 3: Left great And also how Dari pitches the Yeah he does,
- 4:03Speaker 3: but how Dari Kratz He had ten staves last year. Okay,
- 4:07Speaker 3: he did some closing as well.
- 4:08Speaker 4: Yeah he's not he did. He's not the closer.
- 4:11Speaker 5: He's not the clote Griffin, are you the closer for
- 4:14Speaker 5: the Minnesota Twins?
- 4:17Speaker 2: Uh?
- 4:18Speaker 5: No, thank you, that's.
- 4:20Speaker 4: It, thank you. I know he had saved anybody go ahead. No, no, no,
- 4:26Speaker 4: I was gonna wait because Mike thing is, Duran comes in,
- 4:29Speaker 4: they have like this cool thing that comes on this
- 4:31Speaker 4: they turn off the lights and everyone goes crazy. But
- 4:34Speaker 4: for that time when Duran was out and Griffin was closing,
- 4:38Speaker 4: did they have like airplanes fly over because of the
- 4:41Speaker 4: Air Force thing. I mean they have like they were
- 4:43Speaker 4: dropping bombs and stuff like what did they do a
- 4:45Speaker 4: cool thing for it?
- 4:47Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 4:47Speaker 1: I had a decent, you know show, But anything besides
- 4:51Speaker 1: his is you know, child's play. I basically had like
- 4:54Speaker 1: advertisements plane. But I'm warming up coming after him, so
- 4:59Speaker 1: U Yeah, it's funny, like there could be a couple
- 5:02Speaker 1: of games where he would throw the eighth and I
- 5:03Speaker 1: might go out there for the ninth and you get
- 5:05Speaker 1: his lights out fireworks show for the eighth and then
- 5:08Speaker 1: I go out and it's just kind of yah.
- 5:12Speaker 2: So this is a discussion.
- 5:14Speaker 5: This discussion we had and AJ completely disagreed with me.
- 5:18Speaker 5: I think all relievers should have their own display. Do
- 5:21Speaker 5: you agree or disagree that you should have your own
- 5:24Speaker 5: whatever you want, whatever it is that you would like.
- 5:28Speaker 1: I think every reliever should have at least like a
- 5:30Speaker 1: walkout song, and every stadium operator is different kind of
- 5:34Speaker 1: just like with the pitch clock, Like there's plenty of
- 5:37Speaker 1: times I've gone out there and my name doesn't get
- 5:39Speaker 1: announced and tell I'm about.
- 5:40Speaker 2: To throw the first pitch.
- 5:41Speaker 1: Like there's just other stuff going on, promotions, games being
- 5:45Speaker 1: played in the stands, like sometimes you know, it's almost
- 5:48Speaker 1: like a just like a reliever, we're forgotten about until
- 5:51Speaker 1: you know we're.
- 5:51Speaker 2: On the mountain.
- 5:53Speaker 4: Okay, so let me ask this then, So just to
- 5:55Speaker 4: add to crafts, let's say your starter goes out and
- 5:58Speaker 4: has a bad start. Right, you're still in the recliner
- 6:00Speaker 4: in the third inning, Okay, but you got to bring
- 6:03Speaker 4: in that long guy and you guys already down six
- 6:05Speaker 4: or seven and nothing. Do you think that guy should
- 6:08Speaker 4: haven't because he's a reliever. Should he have an entrance
- 6:10Speaker 4: like here comes the guy to give me five minutinges
- 6:13Speaker 4: im possibly gets into triple A after the game.
- 6:16Speaker 1: No, not necessarily like a light show or any sort
- 6:20Speaker 1: of show, but you know, maybe just like a.
- 6:22Speaker 2: Song he likes.
- 6:24Speaker 4: I can get on board with a song, but like
- 6:25Speaker 4: the light show should be for the.
- 6:27Speaker 3: Yeah, my thing though, is okay, for sure, I'm with you,
- 6:29Speaker 3: I'm gonna sure, But I'm gonna meet in the middle.
- 6:32Speaker 3: Here there's a big difference between Duran's incredible entrance and oh,
- 6:39Speaker 3: here comes the eighth inning guy who sometimes also is
- 6:42Speaker 3: racking up saves two depending on the situation, and he's
- 6:45Speaker 3: been lights out for us, right and should be this
- 6:47Speaker 3: fierce intimidating entrance, And it's.
- 6:49Speaker 4: Like, all right, let's play twins trivia? Is it a
- 6:52Speaker 4: B or c oh?
- 6:53Speaker 3: And Griffin Jackson's like, I think there should be a
- 6:56Speaker 3: little something for you. You know that it might not
- 6:59Speaker 3: touch the Durana entrance, but I do think they can.
- 7:01Speaker 1: They threw some together at the end of the year,
- 7:03Speaker 1: and it definitely it makes me feel a little bit
- 7:05Speaker 1: better for sure. But towards the beginning it was it
- 7:08Speaker 1: was a little different.
- 7:10Speaker 4: It should have been for Griffin Jackson because it's true
- 7:12Speaker 4: or false. Griffin jacks hates the taste of water. True
- 7:15Speaker 4: or false?
- 7:15Speaker 2: Cut huh slander true?
- 7:19Speaker 4: Oh, from last time, I'm telling you. I told him
- 7:22Speaker 4: last time we had him on. They have a big
- 7:24Speaker 4: thing that they told us about Griffin Jackson was he
- 7:26Speaker 4: hates the taste of water. I asked him last time
- 7:28Speaker 4: and he said no, he just got tired of it
- 7:30Speaker 4: because he was in the Air Force and he just
- 7:32Speaker 4: had to drink so much water he grew tired of it.
- 7:34Speaker 4: But I mean that would be a true, great true
- 7:36Speaker 4: or false question because I would to go with true,
- 7:38Speaker 4: and Griffin just told me false.
- 7:41Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 7:42Speaker 3: I don't know if that's necessarily intimidating. But here's okay,
- 7:46Speaker 3: I want to get nerdy on a stat question for
- 7:48Speaker 3: one moment. Here, what's the what is the go to
- 7:51Speaker 3: stat these days for relievers, not for indicators, but more
- 7:56Speaker 3: to show productivity. I'm curious, like, is it strand percentage?
- 8:00Speaker 3: Does e RA plus play which yours was insane this
- 8:03Speaker 3: past season? You know, like, what's a stat that you
- 8:05Speaker 3: look at because I think sometimes e RA for leavers
- 8:09Speaker 3: can get you know, pretty wonky depending on what happened
- 8:12Speaker 3: with you know, somebody that came in after you or whatever.
- 8:17Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, ERA is one of those ones you
- 8:19Speaker 1: kind of gotta like throw over your shoulder as a reliever,
- 8:21Speaker 1: just because if you have one bad game or week like,
- 8:24Speaker 1: your ERA can be torched. So fip's definitely important for
- 8:29Speaker 1: that kind of like get you guys know, it kind
- 8:31Speaker 1: of takes the randomness out of the game.
- 8:33Speaker 2: I mean, now, that stat strand percentage is huge.
- 8:37Speaker 1: I think punch out rate K percentages is ginormous, Like
- 8:41Speaker 1: you need to especially as a back end guy. You
- 8:43Speaker 1: got to be punching guys out. Let's see what else
- 8:47Speaker 1: is important. I mean with percentage, chase all that stuff
- 8:52Speaker 1: that just kind of shows like how good your stuff
- 8:54Speaker 1: is in the middle of the zone. And if they're
- 8:57Speaker 1: missing strikes, if the swing of missing strikes, you know
- 8:59Speaker 1: you've got good stuff.
- 9:01Speaker 4: All right? What about holds? Because we've had we've had
- 9:03Speaker 4: relievers come on here and say, well, if I'm not
- 9:05Speaker 4: getting saves, I need holds. So is hold something that
- 9:07Speaker 4: you look at and say, all right, I got a
- 9:09Speaker 4: hold here?
- 9:11Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean for me because if I'm not getting saves,
- 9:13Speaker 1: and that's you know, sort of like the next best thing.
- 9:16Speaker 1: But uh, you know, we all know that holds aren't
- 9:20Speaker 1: as valuable as saves.
- 9:23Speaker 4: True. True, that's what you paid. That's why you don't
- 9:26Speaker 4: get an entrance in the closer? Does that's it?
- 9:29Speaker 2: That's right, that's what I need.
- 9:33Speaker 5: Need an entrance to get paid. It'll come up in arbitration.
- 9:35Speaker 5: Why does this guy not have a cool song or
- 9:37Speaker 5: cool entrance? We shouldn't pay him as much. That's what
- 9:41Speaker 5: they're gonna hold they all right, So tell us, tell
- 9:48Speaker 5: us what's going through your mind, the feelings that you
- 9:51Speaker 5: had on September eleventh, with with your family, with the flyover,
- 9:56Speaker 5: with everything that happened in that game. How cool was
- 9:58Speaker 5: that for you?
- 10:00Speaker 2: Yeah, it was incredible.
- 10:01Speaker 1: I mean, that was probably one of the most nervous
- 10:04Speaker 1: games I've ever pitched him, just because I had so
- 10:06Speaker 1: much family there.
- 10:07Speaker 2: It was almost like my debut again. But I think
- 10:11Speaker 2: I was just more nervous than my brother, who on
- 10:14Speaker 2: that picture he's to my right, to the to the
- 10:16Speaker 2: right of my wife.
- 10:18Speaker 1: And just to experience that not only like as a fan,
- 10:23Speaker 1: but you know, as a player on the field was
- 10:25Speaker 1: really special. And then this video is my other brother,
- 10:28Speaker 1: his twin, who flies a different plane but throughout the
- 10:31Speaker 1: first pitch. So it was just a really surreal moment,
- 10:34Speaker 1: big day for my family. And I don't know if
- 10:37Speaker 1: I'll ever experience something like that ever again on the field.
- 10:41Speaker 4: So wait, are you the only loser brother that doesn't
- 10:43Speaker 4: fly planes? I mean, what that.
- 10:46Speaker 1: Was my That was my joke at one of my
- 10:48Speaker 1: brother's weddings. I hadn't getten called up yet. And they're
- 10:51Speaker 1: both badass pilots, and I'm like, I'm kind of like
- 10:54Speaker 1: the runt of the family. Like I'm just a minor
- 10:56Speaker 1: league pitcher at this point. So now I can say
- 11:00Speaker 1: it's a little different. But uh, five six years ago,
- 11:03Speaker 1: that was my that was my joke.
- 11:05Speaker 4: Who's the cooler thing in the Air Force?
- 11:08Speaker 2: Say that again?
- 11:11Speaker 4: Who is a cooler job.
- 11:15Speaker 2: Out of my two brothers?
- 11:17Speaker 5: No between you you or your two brothers being a
- 11:21Speaker 5: fighter pilot?
- 11:23Speaker 1: Oh man, I mean if you ask those guys, they
- 11:26Speaker 1: think they pilots are, you know, just as egotistical as
- 11:29Speaker 1: Major League baseball players are. So they're kind of like
- 11:33Speaker 1: the alpha dogs of the military. So they would definitely.
- 11:36Speaker 2: Say them and I will agree, like what they do
- 11:39Speaker 2: day in, day out, like is not for the week.
- 11:42Speaker 1: Like you know, you're deployed from your family for months
- 11:45Speaker 1: sometimes years, like you're in danger zones, you're getting shot at,
- 11:48Speaker 1: So it'd be wrong to.
- 11:50Speaker 2: Not say that they got a harder job.
- 11:53Speaker 4: Okay, So two things, What did you do in the
- 11:55Speaker 4: Air Force if you're not a pilot, what was your
- 11:57Speaker 4: what was your role in the Air Force since you
- 11:59Speaker 4: went to the Air Force Academy.
- 12:02Speaker 1: Yeah, I man, I had just a very unique upbringing
- 12:07Speaker 1: in the military. So to make a long story short,
- 12:11Speaker 1: when I went to the academy, the ruling was, anybody
- 12:14Speaker 1: that gets drafted or professional contract gets a chance to
- 12:17Speaker 1: go play pro and sort of delay their service. So
- 12:20Speaker 1: that was the understanding that I had. It comes to
- 12:22Speaker 1: the point where I get drafted, twins knew that I'm
- 12:25Speaker 1: about to walk across the stage and I get told, hey,
- 12:29Speaker 1: you've got to do a minimum of two years service.
- 12:32Speaker 1: So at that moment, I had no idea like what
- 12:35Speaker 1: the future held if baseball is even gonna be a
- 12:36Speaker 1: possibility after that, because you know, you guys know, taking
- 12:38Speaker 1: two years off of regardless, like, it's just incredibly hard
- 12:42Speaker 1: to come back after that.
- 12:43Speaker 2: So for for.
- 12:47Speaker 1: A minute of time after that, they had me doing
- 12:51Speaker 1: like secretary stuff for my colonel. I was planning holiday parties.
- 12:54Speaker 1: I was even p monitor for a little bit in
- 12:58Speaker 1: my unit because I didn't have like a real Air
- 13:01Speaker 1: Force job or a title, so they just didn't really
- 13:03Speaker 1: know what to do with me. So they were kind
- 13:05Speaker 1: of just throwing, you know, some BS.
- 13:06Speaker 2: Jobs at me.
- 13:08Speaker 1: And thankfully, like seven months later they told me that
- 13:11Speaker 1: I was going to be released and be able to
- 13:13Speaker 1: go play and resume pro bawl got it?
- 13:17Speaker 5: Nice?
- 13:17Speaker 4: Sor right? So, what are your brothers? What's your family's
- 13:20Speaker 4: call signs? Sorry? Er, what's your family's call sign? What's
- 13:24Speaker 4: your call sign going to be? I mean listen as
- 13:27Speaker 4: a veteran of a Blue Angels flight, I mean they
- 13:29Speaker 4: made a call sign for me. It was didn't pass
- 13:31Speaker 4: out or didn't vomit? Yeah, So what are your brothers
- 13:34Speaker 4: and your sister in law's call sign? And what would
- 13:36Speaker 4: your call sign be?
- 13:38Speaker 2: So I only know.
- 13:41Speaker 1: One of my brother's call signs, and it's an acronym.
- 13:44Speaker 1: I forget what it stands for. I mean what the
- 13:47Speaker 1: letters are, but if it's the story behind it, like
- 13:50Speaker 1: call signs have stories behind them. And his call sign,
- 13:53Speaker 1: whatever it is I can't remember, is basically because he
- 13:55Speaker 1: adopted a dog when he was in Korea and his wife,
- 13:59Speaker 1: who it's the same plane, the F thirty five Hers
- 14:02Speaker 1: is her call signs Goldie because she peter pants and
- 14:06Speaker 1: the cockpit in the air.
- 14:08Speaker 5: All right, there's some wait does that does that fall
- 14:14Speaker 5: under your Does that fall under your duties as p monitor?
- 14:18Speaker 4: Somebody that peed their pants in the cockpit because you
- 14:21Speaker 4: said you were No I was, did I hear you?
- 14:23Speaker 1: Right?
- 14:23Speaker 2: I was basically CDT. You know, I was in the
- 14:25Speaker 2: I was going in the bathroom with him, making sure like, hey,
- 14:28Speaker 2: there's no there's no foul play here in your drug test. Uh,
- 14:32Speaker 2: that kind of stuff.
- 14:33Speaker 4: You were that guy.
- 14:35Speaker 1: You were that guy, the guy that was anything else
- 14:37Speaker 1: for me to do. So they just they were giving
- 14:39Speaker 1: me all the jobs that no one wanted to do.
- 14:41Speaker 1: I had to buy snacks for everybody I had. You know,
- 14:44Speaker 1: it was it was a rough seven eight months.
- 14:47Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. You were the guy from CDT that
- 14:50Speaker 4: would show up my house call you, Hey, are you home? Yes,
- 14:53Speaker 4: all right, we'll be your house in thirty minutes. Hope
- 14:55Speaker 4: you ate breakfast? Yes? Wow, yeah all right. Basically yeah,
- 15:00Speaker 4: I'm sorry for that.
- 15:01Speaker 3: Nobody's nicer to the test monitors than in MLB when
- 15:04Speaker 3: they're coming to test because you know, you know the
- 15:08Speaker 3: deal exactly. Well, that's a good way to finish. Hey,
- 15:11Speaker 3: great to have you on. Really appreciate the time. Thanks
- 15:13Speaker 3: for waiting for us for a little bit. Obviously we
- 15:15Speaker 3: got backed up, yes, but always great to have you man.
- 15:17Speaker 2: This was fun, that's right. I appreciate you. Fella's talk
- 15:20Speaker 2: soon