Latest / Frightmares / Ep. 141 - Alligator (1980)
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- 0:43Speaker 1: It's so annoying because Scary Movie five is the only
- 0:46Speaker 1: one to start doing the Roman numerals.
- 0:49Speaker 2: Oh interesting, but I thought, so.
- 0:52Speaker 1: What even happens in fucking Scary Movie five?
- 0:54Speaker 2: I don't remember.
- 0:55Speaker 1: I don't. I don't remember because I thought the shack
- 0:57Speaker 1: thing was from that movie.
- 1:00Speaker 2: Well, no, that's when they because that's when they made
- 1:01Speaker 2: fun of Saw as a scary movie four.
- 1:03Speaker 1: It took them that many movies to make fun of Saul.
- 1:07Speaker 2: I mean they well, when did four come out?
- 1:10Speaker 1: Four came out? Okay, four came out. Damn four came
- 1:13Speaker 1: out in two thousand and six. So that makes sense
- 1:16Speaker 1: because Saw was like two thousand and five. Yeah, good grief.
- 1:19Speaker 1: So Scary Movie two thousand, Scary Movie two two thousand
- 1:22Speaker 1: and one, Scary Movie three two thousand and three, and
- 1:25Speaker 1: then three years later, in two thousand and six, we've
- 1:26Speaker 1: got Scary Movie four. Holy shit. I thought those movies
- 1:30Speaker 1: were older than that.
- 1:33Speaker 2: It's still pretty old. I mean the two thousand.
- 1:36Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that is old. I just for some reason,
- 1:38Speaker 1: I don't know why I thought that. I don't know.
- 1:41Speaker 1: I thought Scary Movie four was much older than two
- 1:44Speaker 1: thousand and six. Apparently not. We're talking about Scary Movie
- 1:48Speaker 1: because me and Spencer are going to watch a Shack
- 1:50Speaker 1: double feature today, yep, including Steel, which is a movie
- 1:55Speaker 1: I've never even heard of that you laid upon me
- 1:58Speaker 1: and I was like, holy shit. And uh Kazam, not
- 2:03Speaker 1: to be confused with Shazam that people think what's his
- 2:06Speaker 1: face was inod Sinbad was in No Kazam with Shaquill
- 2:10Speaker 1: O'Neil and Steele. I am very excited to watch this
- 2:13Speaker 1: dumpster fire. It's gonna be terrible. It's gonna be three
- 2:16Speaker 1: hours of just tom foolery. Yep, pretty much, but I'm
- 2:20Speaker 1: excited for it. But yes, Shack appears with doctor Phil
- 2:22Speaker 1: in the beginning of Scary Movie four where he cuts
- 2:26Speaker 1: off the wrong foot.
- 2:27Speaker 2: And then make fun of Shack for trying to do
- 2:30Speaker 2: free throws because he can't do that to save his life.
- 2:32Speaker 1: And that was probably the most meta joke ever because
- 2:34Speaker 1: he's so terrible at free throws that he did that,
- 2:37Speaker 1: and uh, yeah, that was good. I pretty much stopped
- 2:41Speaker 1: watching though after Scary Movie three, because that.
- 2:44Speaker 2: I stopped with. So I saw Scary Movie four into
- 2:48Speaker 2: theaters and about twenty minutes in I walked out.
- 2:50Speaker 1: Four.
- 2:51Speaker 2: Yeah, I did I never finished four.
- 2:53Speaker 1: Really, Yeah, it was so bad. Yeah. In my opinion,
- 2:57Speaker 1: Scary Movie three is always gonna be my favorite because
- 3:00Speaker 1: it's the most ridiculous. It's just so silly and the
- 3:03Speaker 1: hat joke in that movie where the officer's hat gets
- 3:06Speaker 1: bigger and bigger. Plus Charlie Sheen is in that, and
- 3:09Speaker 1: that's before he went crazy and with the whole tiger
- 3:11Speaker 1: blood crazy shit. I don't know, Scary Movie three is
- 3:15Speaker 1: always my favorite.
- 3:16Speaker 2: The only thing I really liked was Scary Movie four
- 3:18Speaker 2: is when they were doing the Saw bits, they actually
- 3:20Speaker 2: used the same bathroom that they did in the first Saw.
- 3:23Speaker 1: Did they really?
- 3:24Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean so, I thought that was kind of cool,
- 3:28Speaker 2: like for I guess authenticity sake.
- 3:30Speaker 1: Interesting.
- 3:31Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought that was a cool little to bit.
- 3:33Speaker 2: I never finished the movie, Like, I just know that
- 3:34Speaker 2: they did that.
- 3:35Speaker 1: Well, joke's on you, motherfucker. We're going to finish that
- 3:37Speaker 1: ship one of these days.
- 3:39Speaker 2: We'll see, we'll see.
- 3:41Speaker 1: I can't even remember what happens in uh Scream or
- 3:44Speaker 1: Scream Saw Scary Movie five. I'm pretty sure that's the
- 3:47Speaker 1: one where Charlie Sheen is like a giant boner and
- 3:49Speaker 1: he falls out of the world of World.
- 3:52Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, because three is so one is
- 3:56Speaker 2: this is obviously scream yeah, and the matrix because that's
- 3:59Speaker 2: a horror.
- 4:01Speaker 1: And then two was to take my strong hand or
- 4:04Speaker 1: whatever he saw.
- 4:05Speaker 2: His house Haunted Hill is what they make fun of, yeah,
- 4:08Speaker 2: with some other like non horror movies like Charlie's Angels
- 4:10Speaker 2: for some reason. And then three was signs and the Ring.
- 4:16Speaker 2: The Ring brought the Hulk and the whole like randomly
- 4:19Speaker 2: was in that one.
- 4:19Speaker 1: Right maybe that was no, the Hulk was not that.
- 4:22Speaker 1: That one was signed and the ring and eight mile, yeah,
- 4:27Speaker 1: eight mile. And then four was to have a dream.
- 4:30Speaker 1: What's that to have a dream?
- 4:32Speaker 2: Four was saw I'm thinking five is like world over
- 4:35Speaker 2: the World. There's one of them. I don't remember which one,
- 4:37Speaker 2: but uh, where this guy grows, you know, gets bigger.
- 4:40Speaker 2: There's as a hulk and then he like you know,
- 4:42Speaker 2: they'd make a stupid dick joke.
- 4:43Speaker 1: Like yeah, that's what I'm saying. Charlie Sheen's dick gets
- 4:46Speaker 1: like huge.
- 4:46Speaker 2: That's probably five.
- 4:47Speaker 1: And then he like falls out of the like out
- 4:49Speaker 1: of like a balcony and then like lands on his
- 4:51Speaker 1: penis or something like that. I think that was five.
- 4:54Speaker 1: I never watched it the trailer again. I really, I
- 4:57Speaker 1: really stopped watching after three because three was my favorite.
- 4:59Speaker 1: I tried four. I was like, nah, I'm good.
- 5:02Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh finish. I mean to one was thought
- 5:06Speaker 2: I thought was pretty good too. I thought was honestly stupid,
- 5:08Speaker 2: like it was already a step down for two in
- 5:10Speaker 2: my opinion. Yeah, but I continued it.
- 5:12Speaker 1: But like I said, three is my favorite. It's it
- 5:15Speaker 1: will always be funny. It's so silly and stupid. Plus
- 5:18Speaker 1: you have you know, you've got Anna Faris and Regina Hall.
- 5:22Speaker 1: I mean they're I'm pretty sure actually Regina.
- 5:24Speaker 2: Hall, they're they're they're all of them, is she?
- 5:27Speaker 1: I can never remember who's in what. But then you
- 5:30Speaker 1: also have that hilarious opening with Pam Anderson and other
- 5:33Speaker 1: chick I can't remember Jenny McCarthy. They're they're doing the
- 5:37Speaker 1: whole ring thing that like, U, yeah, that was great.
- 5:40Speaker 1: That was so silly. Then you have Simon Rex's George
- 5:43Speaker 1: who plays you know, the the eight Mile Rapper. I
- 5:46Speaker 1: don't know. That one to me was just like peak
- 5:47Speaker 1: comedy of the two thousands. But yeah, four and five,
- 5:51Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I'm good and thank god they're not
- 5:54Speaker 1: doing any more of those because uh it's played out
- 5:57Speaker 1: at this but Jesus Christ, Scary Movie five is twenty thirteen. Yeah,
- 6:02Speaker 1: holy crap, that's what ten years ago. Wow, this only
- 6:07Speaker 1: has okay, so check it out. So Steele and Kazam
- 6:09Speaker 1: have a three point zero out of ten. This one
- 6:12Speaker 1: has a three point five out of ten on IMDb,
- 6:15Speaker 1: so we're not so this is barely better than Kazam.
- 6:19Speaker 1: That's what we're dealing with today. Oh my god, I
- 6:21Speaker 1: can't wait. This is episode one forty one. By the way,
- 6:25Speaker 1: I'm your host, Austin Proctor. That is your co host,
- 6:27Speaker 1: Spencer Laffer mab Hello, Hello, we are talking about Alligator today.
- 6:32Speaker 1: But of course we always have to preface these podcasts
- 6:35Speaker 1: with some sort of tom foolery aka Scary Movie and
- 6:40Speaker 1: the Shack double feature. So uh, we should just we
- 6:43Speaker 1: need to talk about Steele real quick, because this is
- 6:45Speaker 1: a nineteen ninety seven movie where Shaquill O'Neil's playing a
- 6:51Speaker 1: superhero yep, yeah, and he's all dressed up literally in
- 6:55Speaker 1: steel correct and he's protecting the you know, he's protect
- 6:58Speaker 1: it's literally The description is justice, safe Streets, and Payback.
- 7:02Speaker 1: That's the first three words or the first three like
- 7:05Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it of the letterbox description
- 7:09Speaker 1: and I'm not sure what this word is right there
- 7:12Speaker 1: the metallurgist, Yeah, metallurgist John Henry vows to claim them
- 7:19Speaker 1: all when a renegade military reject puts new super weapons
- 7:23Speaker 1: in dangerous hands. Like this movie sounds so ridiculous, I
- 7:27Speaker 1: can't believe I've never heard of this. Yep, this movie's
- 7:30Speaker 1: just been hiding because it was so bad. Like I
- 7:33Speaker 1: tell you.
- 7:33Speaker 2: Before the podcast, I don't know why, and I just
- 7:37Speaker 2: always remember renting it for blockbusters, like I want to say,
- 7:40Speaker 2: almost weekly or monthly, like I would always just I
- 7:42Speaker 2: was obsessed with it and it's not and I knew
- 7:44Speaker 2: it wasn't good to begin with. But you know, when
- 7:45Speaker 2: you're little, like you don't know what's good or what's bad.
- 7:47Speaker 1: Really, that's the thing. When you're a little kid, you're
- 7:49Speaker 1: just looking to be entertained. You don't know what's good
- 7:52Speaker 1: and bad. Like I loved Kazam as a kid. I'm
- 7:55Speaker 1: sure today it's gonna shatter my world for how shitty
- 7:58Speaker 1: it is. And I'm okay with that. But you know,
- 8:01Speaker 1: when movie when you're a kid Yeah. Again, you're just
- 8:03Speaker 1: looking to be You're looking for fun things on the
- 8:05Speaker 1: screen and to be entertained. You don't really care about dialogue,
- 8:07Speaker 1: you don't care about plot, you don't care about anything
- 8:10Speaker 1: when you're in this instance, I would have been seven
- 8:12Speaker 1: years old when this came out. Yeah, so yeah, this
- 8:16Speaker 1: movie looks crazy. I just I'm just surprised. I've never
- 8:19Speaker 1: even heard of it. I figured at some point in
- 8:21Speaker 1: my life this would have crossed my path, but it
- 8:23Speaker 1: has not.
- 8:24Speaker 2: It's not one of those movies that people will talk about.
- 8:26Speaker 1: No, it's not, and for good reason, because it's got
- 8:29Speaker 1: a one point four on.
- 8:31Speaker 2: Let forgot about it till I don't know about a
- 8:33Speaker 2: month ago. I was just scrolling through HBO Max and
- 8:35Speaker 2: I saw that, and the like opened the memory of
- 8:37Speaker 2: my brain.
- 8:38Speaker 1: Yeah, unlucky core memory exactly. And we came or you can't.
- 8:42Speaker 1: I don't know who came up with the idea last
- 8:45Speaker 1: Thursday or you okay, you came up with the idea
- 8:49Speaker 1: where like because like we wanted to do a different
- 8:51Speaker 1: double feature this week, We're like, let's not do horror movies,
- 8:53Speaker 1: let's just do something different, And you were like, what
- 8:57Speaker 1: about watching steel and I was like, what is Steel?
- 9:00Speaker 1: And I was like, Oh, that looks good. Let's just
- 9:01Speaker 1: double feature Shack movies because apparently he's done these two.
- 9:05Speaker 1: Actually let me see while I'm here, because he was
- 9:09Speaker 1: in the Lego movie.
- 9:10Speaker 2: Yeah, a Shack.
- 9:14Speaker 1: As Shack. Apparently he's done a lot of things. He
- 9:19Speaker 1: was in uh Hube Halloween that Oh.
- 9:23Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he was saying a couple Yeah, he was
- 9:25Speaker 2: the cop okay.
- 9:26Speaker 1: And then he was in Grown Ups two, Jack and
- 9:28Speaker 1: Jill House, Bunny Blended Scary Movie four, Like we talked
- 9:31Speaker 1: about good Burger. Yep, Freddy got fingered, he got Game
- 9:36Speaker 1: What Men Want? The Smurfs two Win in Rome, Uncle
- 9:39Speaker 1: Drew Kazam Stee. I mean, holy shit, this is so
- 9:43Speaker 1: many movies.
- 9:43Speaker 2: He's got a weird about of movies.
- 9:45Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure most of these are cameos. Not
- 9:48Speaker 1: like them, not leading roles. Cuzam and Steel are like leading.
- 9:53Speaker 2: Roles, Uncle Drew.
- 9:55Speaker 1: Uncle Drew was a leading Hey that has a two
- 9:57Speaker 1: point six Yeah.
- 9:58Speaker 2: It's actually about a bunch of older uh players.
- 10:01Speaker 1: Oh that came out a couple of years ago. Came
- 10:03Speaker 1: out twenty eighteen.
- 10:04Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, that's the leading role.
- 10:06Speaker 1: So he's still doing shit.
- 10:08Speaker 2: He look at him and Hubble Halloween. I would and
- 10:11Speaker 2: watch it. I didn't watch that movie, but he played it.
- 10:13Speaker 2: He played like a copper or whatever, so like he
- 10:15Speaker 2: had a like he had a side role.
- 10:18Speaker 1: But it was you know why Adam Sandler did that movie? Right? No?
- 10:23Speaker 2: Really, probably like a few to somebody or I'm sure.
- 10:26Speaker 1: Yeah, he because after he did Uncut Gems, he tweeted
- 10:29Speaker 1: he says, if I get snubbed at the oh yeah,
- 10:31Speaker 1: that's right. He literally said, if I get snubbed at
- 10:34Speaker 1: the Oscars for this movie, I'm gonna make the dumbest
- 10:36Speaker 1: piece of shit. Well I'm paraphrasing at this point. And
- 10:39Speaker 1: that's why he made hub Halloween because he got snubbed.
- 10:43Speaker 1: And honestly, yeah, he really should have won something for that.
- 10:46Speaker 1: I agree, maybe not an Oscar, but he should have
- 10:48Speaker 1: won something because like he was phenomenal on that. Yeah,
- 10:51Speaker 1: because you know Adam Sandler, he's known for being that guy.
- 10:56Speaker 2: But his his the little bit of dramas that he does,
- 10:58Speaker 2: he kills it.
- 10:59Speaker 1: Yeah he does. Then I feel.
- 11:00Speaker 2: Like I'm not afraid to say it, but like and
- 11:04Speaker 2: rain over me. That man made me cry every time
- 11:07Speaker 2: that I watched that movie. It's a it's about a
- 11:09Speaker 2: movie where he loses his family. Like he's going to
- 11:12Speaker 2: the airport to pick up his family and realizes it's
- 11:14Speaker 2: one of the planes that went down in nine to eleven.
- 11:16Speaker 1: Oh really, I've never seen that one.
- 11:19Speaker 2: I've never seen that him Live Tyler don Chietel, good cast.
- 11:23Speaker 2: But basically it's it's him dealing with it without a
- 11:26Speaker 2: bottle or any type of pills, just him cold turkey
- 11:29Speaker 2: and uh there's a scene where he talked to it
- 11:32Speaker 2: to his therapist Playboy Live Tyler, and he's reliving it
- 11:36Speaker 2: and you could just see it in his face and
- 11:38Speaker 2: I break down like a little bit every time.
- 11:40Speaker 1: Every time, every time. And that's what's That's what's funny
- 11:45Speaker 1: about people like him who get type cast into those
- 11:48Speaker 1: kind of goofy, silly roles, is he has a range.
- 11:51Speaker 1: He can do other things. But it's like it's almost
- 11:54Speaker 1: like people don't don't want to see him do that.
- 11:56Speaker 1: They're like, no, go back to being slapstick and funny.
- 11:59Speaker 1: I don't like serious role. But you have you seen
- 12:02Speaker 1: Uncut Gems? Oh?
- 12:03Speaker 2: Yeah, I own it.
- 12:04Speaker 1: I love that movie. Yeah, that movie is fantastic. He
- 12:05Speaker 1: did a great job, to.
- 12:06Speaker 2: Be honest, He's the reason why I saw that movie. Yeah,
- 12:09Speaker 2: same like like like other other than that, Like, I mean,
- 12:11Speaker 2: the plot was cool well when once you watch the movie,
- 12:14Speaker 2: but like if you took Out of Sailor out of
- 12:16Speaker 2: the trailer and just played that trailer, I would have
- 12:18Speaker 2: not been interested at all.
- 12:20Speaker 1: Yeah, I was interested because I wanted to see him
- 12:22Speaker 1: do something well and it was a twenty four Well.
- 12:24Speaker 2: Actually I did like I did also kind of like
- 12:27Speaker 2: the director because they did good times and I love Yeah,
- 12:30Speaker 2: so I was intrigued that way. But I think what
- 12:33Speaker 2: more pulled me in to actually see it theatrically than
- 12:35Speaker 2: waiting for you know, see it later on life was
- 12:37Speaker 2: Adam Sailor in another drama. I'm always in for that,
- 12:40Speaker 2: like him that Spannglish, run over Me in Pumps, Drunk Glove.
- 12:45Speaker 2: To me, those are probably his four best movies. And
- 12:49Speaker 2: they're all dramas. Yeah, don't get me wrong, like Canny
- 12:51Speaker 2: Gilmour and Stuff's great, but like you Got a Die Clown,
- 12:56Speaker 2: I mean, those are classics. But like to me, if
- 12:58Speaker 2: he came up to me and as me what I
- 13:00Speaker 2: thought his favorite movies were, I'd like, these are my
- 13:02Speaker 2: top four and all of them were none of them
- 13:04Speaker 2: are comedies.
- 13:05Speaker 1: None of those are you know I performance wise.
- 13:08Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, perform was like if you asked me
- 13:10Speaker 2: like like that way, I'd be like, yeah, but I'm
- 13:11Speaker 2: like but movie wisely, you know, happy.
- 13:13Speaker 1: Of course the billionaires.
- 13:15Speaker 2: Yeah, but like punk Struck, glove Is was his first,
- 13:19Speaker 2: I believe his first drama.
- 13:20Speaker 1: That was. Yeah, that was way back in the early
- 13:22Speaker 1: two thousands.
- 13:23Speaker 2: I was directed by Paul Paul Anderson.
- 13:27Speaker 3: Okay, which Paul Anderson, not the resident evil guy, the
- 13:30Speaker 3: actual drama guy, the one who did the one who
- 13:32Speaker 3: directed The Master and There Will be Blood Paul Thomas
- 13:35Speaker 3: and Paul Thomas Anderson back and yeah, that was back
- 13:38Speaker 3: in two thousand and two.
- 13:39Speaker 2: That was his I believe that was his first like drama,
- 13:41Speaker 2: and damn he killed it.
- 13:43Speaker 1: Was holy movie. That's a four point.
- 13:45Speaker 2: It's a great fucking movie. Whoa spanklish Out of the
- 13:48Speaker 2: four honest is probably the weakest for me, just because
- 13:51Speaker 2: it's it's it's uh, it's just a typical like family
- 13:54Speaker 2: drama movie. But he still killed it, like as as
- 13:57Speaker 2: an as acting in the drama.
- 13:59Speaker 1: Yeah, that was and four directed by James L. Brooks.
- 14:03Speaker 1: Like I said two point seven online.
- 14:05Speaker 2: I still really liked it. But out of those four,
- 14:06Speaker 2: I guess that would be his weakest drama.
- 14:08Speaker 1: But like, I think that's the I've seen Punch Drunk Love.
- 14:11Speaker 1: I just didn't realize it had that high of a
- 14:12Speaker 1: rating because I've watched it ages ago. But I think
- 14:15Speaker 1: Banglish is the only one that I haven't seen. Oh
- 14:18Speaker 1: that's god, that's two hours and ten minutes too. Isn't
- 14:22Speaker 1: Drew Barrymore in that one too?
- 14:23Speaker 2: No?
- 14:24Speaker 1: No, tay Leoni, I'm sorry, Taylon.
- 14:26Speaker 2: Barrymore is actually not in any of his dramas.
- 14:30Speaker 1: No.
- 14:31Speaker 2: No, she's only been in like the romantic comedies.
- 14:34Speaker 1: Oh that's what I'm thinking of, because she was in
- 14:35Speaker 1: fifty First Dates, and then she was in She's also
- 14:38Speaker 1: the wedding singer, the wedding singer, and then there was
- 14:40Speaker 1: there wasn't there one more? There's one more that she
- 14:42Speaker 1: was in, uh Blended, Yes, Blended.
- 14:45Speaker 2: I actually didn't like Blended. I was hyped for it
- 14:48Speaker 2: because of the duo was back like like ooh, the
- 14:51Speaker 2: you know, they're great the duo, And then I watched it,
- 14:53Speaker 2: I'm like.
- 14:53Speaker 1: Eh, yeah, that one, uh because yeah, because Blended was
- 14:58Speaker 1: okay twenty fourteen, think, oh man, what was what was
- 15:01Speaker 1: the one I just talked about? Oh my god, fifty
- 15:04Speaker 1: First Dates. That's a classic I love, and he's not.
- 15:07Speaker 1: I mean, I would say that's probably one of his
- 15:09Speaker 1: more first serials. He was still kind of you know.
- 15:12Speaker 2: I didn't really like fifty First Dates really. Yeah, So,
- 15:16Speaker 2: like I've seen it a few times just till you know,
- 15:19Speaker 2: you know, when you watch a movie the first time,
- 15:20Speaker 2: you're like sometimes you're like, so then you won't watch
- 15:22Speaker 2: it later on in life again, you know, things could
- 15:24Speaker 2: change because it's happened before the play of things. Oh yeah,
- 15:27Speaker 2: But I just every time I watch it, I feel
- 15:29Speaker 2: the same way, and I'm just like, it's not a
- 15:31Speaker 2: bad movie, and I won't like like bash it. I
- 15:34Speaker 2: just I just didn't. I wasn't it just what's the
- 15:39Speaker 2: word I'm looking for. I just wasn't into it.
- 15:42Speaker 1: I guess you like the premise, the acting, or I.
- 15:46Speaker 2: Don't know what. I could not pinpoint, Like I said,
- 15:48Speaker 2: it's not a bad movie, and I won't and I
- 15:49Speaker 2: won't bash it as such. I just every time I
- 15:52Speaker 2: watch it, I feel the same way, and it's not
- 15:54Speaker 2: like a good way.
- 15:56Speaker 1: Interesting. I wonder what causes that I couldn't tell you. Yeah,
- 16:00Speaker 1: I mean everyone's gonna react to movies differently, not everyone's
- 16:03Speaker 1: gonna like top not. Yeah, Punch Trunk Love is one
- 16:09Speaker 1: I need to rewatch because it's been so fucking long. Yeah,
- 16:12Speaker 1: but okay, well, since we're talking about Paul W or
- 16:14Speaker 1: sorry not even Paul Thomas Anderson. Other movies he's done.
- 16:19Speaker 1: We've got Licorice Pizza, there will be Blood Magnolia, Boogie Knights.
- 16:24Speaker 1: So that's what he's done. Because there's Paul Thomas Anderson,
- 16:27Speaker 1: there's Wes Anderson, and then there's W. S Anderson. Yeah,
- 16:32Speaker 1: what the fuck? So because Paul W. S Anderson is
- 16:35Speaker 1: the guy who did Event Horizon and Resident Evil movies. Yeah,
- 16:39Speaker 1: so I always get those confused all the time. It's
- 16:42Speaker 1: goddamn Anderson names. So this is obviously now we're doing
- 16:46Speaker 1: the this is the just the Adam Sandler podcast at
- 16:48Speaker 1: this point. Welcome and thank you. But now there's a
- 16:52Speaker 1: that's we We've got to do that at some point,
- 16:54Speaker 1: We've gotta we've gotta like double features some Adam Sandler
- 16:57Speaker 1: more serious roles, because yeah, I feel like he kind
- 16:59Speaker 1: of gets he kind of gets snubbed with those uh
- 17:02Speaker 1: serious acting roles because he's he can actually do it,
- 17:05Speaker 1: and he does it very well. And if you haven't
- 17:08Speaker 1: seen Uncut Gems, holy shit, that movie is one of
- 17:10Speaker 1: the most stressful movies I've seen from so stress from
- 17:13Speaker 1: A twenty four since Green Room, Like Green Room was
- 17:17Speaker 1: extremely stressful, and then I watched Uncut Gems and I
- 17:20Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, I didn't think it could
- 17:23Speaker 1: get more stressful than that. So yeah, A twenty four
- 17:26Speaker 1: always kills it with their movies, And I think you're
- 17:28Speaker 1: right though, if if he wasn't in that movie or
- 17:31Speaker 1: I don't think I would have been in it.
- 17:33Speaker 2: Like yeah, I just don't think it would have. I mean, like,
- 17:35Speaker 2: like the premise was was simple. I mean, I'm not
- 17:38Speaker 2: gonna like give it away just in case somebody wants
- 17:40Speaker 2: to like see it, like like you know, blindly or whatever,
- 17:42Speaker 2: but like, but you know, since we've both seen it,
- 17:44Speaker 2: we know it. Like the premise was just so simple.
- 17:46Speaker 2: It just didn't seem like it didn't seem like there
- 17:49Speaker 2: was much of a movie there. But then yeah, I'm like, Okay, well,
- 17:51Speaker 2: we have these directors who clearly can do can do something.
- 17:56Speaker 2: I wanted to see what else they can do, because
- 17:57Speaker 2: I've only this, it was only the second movie I've
- 17:59Speaker 2: seen them do. And then you get Adam Sailor in
- 18:02Speaker 2: another serious role and I'm like, I'm in, like I
- 18:05Speaker 2: was in from that, I'm like, okay, cool, and then yeah,
- 18:08Speaker 2: I fucking love that movie.
- 18:09Speaker 1: Yeah, because let's see, I'm just curious to see what
- 18:12Speaker 1: else they've done.
- 18:13Speaker 2: We've got I think that Good Time.
- 18:15Speaker 1: So far, well they've got jeez, I'm sure these are all.
- 18:18Speaker 1: They've got a whole like twenty five movies, but I'm
- 18:20Speaker 1: sure most of these are shorts because even oh, they
- 18:25Speaker 1: have another movie called Heaven Knows what. I don't know
- 18:27Speaker 1: what that's about. But yeah, they haven't done too many
- 18:30Speaker 1: actually theatrical movies. From what I can see, it looks
- 18:33Speaker 1: like all of these are shorts. Yeah, for the most part.
- 18:35Speaker 1: But yeah, Good Time was another movie where you know
- 18:39Speaker 1: that that was Robert Pattinson starring, and everyone you know
- 18:43Speaker 1: has that idea in their head of Pattinson. We talked
- 18:45Speaker 1: about this about the Batman, how like he can't you
- 18:47Speaker 1: know ever, you know, he kind of got tarnished because
- 18:49Speaker 1: he was in Twilight. Twilight, but it's like once I
- 18:53Speaker 1: saw so I did. I did all the twenty four
- 18:55Speaker 1: movies from like the earliest release latest release, and I
- 18:58Speaker 1: saw him in Rover the Rover with Guy from Momento
- 19:02Speaker 1: Guy Peers, and I was like, oh, that was the
- 19:04Speaker 1: first movie I had seen him man outside of Twilight,
- 19:06Speaker 1: and I was like, holy shit, this guy can act.
- 19:08Speaker 1: And then of course getting into the later catalog of
- 19:10Speaker 1: A twenty four, I saw him in Good Time and
- 19:12Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, I like this guy. This guy
- 19:14Speaker 1: is good. And yeah, so I just like how these guys,
- 19:17Speaker 1: you know, Adam Sandler and Robert Pattinson come from different
- 19:21Speaker 1: like they started from different places, but they can they
- 19:24Speaker 1: can also do other things. You got to give actors
- 19:27Speaker 1: credit when they you know where credit is due, you.
- 19:30Speaker 2: Know, talking about Twilight, both Robert Pattinson and Christma Stewart both.
- 19:35Speaker 1: That's really yeah, that was their start. Really.
- 19:37Speaker 2: Oh Robert Patson was on Harry Potter.
- 19:39Speaker 1: No, I know, but I'm saying, like, really Twilight really
- 19:42Speaker 1: kind of like and that's what.
- 19:43Speaker 2: I was getting at, Like, so we had Christian Stewart
- 19:45Speaker 2: in Panic Room, yeah, as a kid, as a kid,
- 19:47Speaker 2: and then the next thing we see her in is Twilight,
- 19:50Speaker 2: and then we had Robert Patinson as a kid in
- 19:51Speaker 2: Harry Potter and the next thing we see him and
- 19:53Speaker 2: this in Twilight, and then after that they both went
- 19:55Speaker 2: on to an actual, I want to say, normal career
- 19:57Speaker 2: because Twicet it's not normal. They both killed it and
- 20:00Speaker 2: everything they've done.
- 20:01Speaker 1: They both killed yeah, and everything they've done since then.
- 20:03Speaker 1: Kristen Stewart, and it's Kristin or is it Kristen Kristin?
- 20:07Speaker 3: Sure?
- 20:08Speaker 2: Is it? I go? Honestly, sometimes I say it.
- 20:11Speaker 1: I can never remember.
- 20:12Speaker 2: But one of my personal favorites of Kristen Stewart, yeah,
- 20:17Speaker 2: Chris is a I don't know if it's A twenty four,
- 20:21Speaker 2: but it's called Personal Shopper.
- 20:23Speaker 1: No, that's not an A twenty I don't think.
- 20:25Speaker 2: So that's one of my favorite movies. At first, it's
- 20:27Speaker 2: an independent film. It's like I know what it's about,
- 20:31Speaker 2: but like I don't, like, I can't say what's really
- 20:33Speaker 2: about without spoiling it unless I'm office well.
- 20:36Speaker 1: And she was also in a brand new movie this
- 20:38Speaker 1: year called Spencer Funny Enough hahuh, Yeah, that I'd never seen.
- 20:42Speaker 1: But it's about NA say, it's about killed it. Yeah,
- 20:45Speaker 1: intended Jesus sorry the way hold on. That was personal Shopper,
- 20:52Speaker 1: Personal Shopper. Here we go. Yeah, that was from Geez.
- 20:54Speaker 1: I was from twenty sixteen. So it's about a personal
- 20:56Speaker 1: shopper in Paris refusing to leave the city until she
- 20:59Speaker 1: makes content with her twin brother who previously died there.
- 21:02Speaker 1: Her life becomes more complicated when a mysterious person contacts
- 21:05Speaker 1: her via text message. I've never seen that one. I
- 21:08Speaker 1: highly recommend.
- 21:09Speaker 2: I heard it was good and it's one of my
- 21:11Speaker 2: favorites of hers, like hands down, Yeah, one of my
- 21:14Speaker 2: favorite of movies of hers. She I really loved the
- 21:18Speaker 2: movie Spencer, but I liked her role in it well,
- 21:21Speaker 2: and that she played a really good Diana.
- 21:24Speaker 1: That came out last year, and that was a Neon film,
- 21:26Speaker 1: And if you know Neon, Neon's done movies like Parasite
- 21:28Speaker 1: and stuff like that, so they it's like a twenty
- 21:30Speaker 1: four you know what I mean, Like they do a
- 21:32Speaker 1: lot of good independent films. And that was something I
- 21:34Speaker 1: always saw and didn't even realize she was in it
- 21:37Speaker 1: until like months after I saw it on the amc
- 21:41Speaker 1: app and I was like, oh my god, that was
- 21:43Speaker 1: Kristen Stewart. Holy shit. So yeah, it's not Hulu if
- 21:46Speaker 1: you want to watch it, Oh yeah, it is right there.
- 21:48Speaker 1: I just saw that, as you said that on IMDb.
- 21:51Speaker 2: That's actually where I watched it, because I didn't catch
- 21:53Speaker 2: it in the theaters like I wanted to, and I
- 21:54Speaker 2: saw us on Hulu when they start watched it. I
- 21:56Speaker 2: thought it was very.
- 21:56Speaker 1: Good and I had no idea it was a biopic
- 21:58Speaker 1: about about Princess Diana until again, like months after, I
- 22:02Speaker 1: saw the name Spencer because I saw this as the
- 22:06Speaker 1: cover on AMC and I'm like, okay, I just didn't
- 22:09Speaker 1: realize that. I didn't realize that was Kristen Stewart at all.
- 22:12Speaker 1: So yeah, it's just funny where all these like these
- 22:14Speaker 1: people get their start and then they just completely go
- 22:16Speaker 1: and do different things and they killed I don't know
- 22:19Speaker 1: if you saw Happiest Season with Kristen Stewart, it was.
- 22:23Speaker 1: It's a Christmas movie that came out in twenty twenty.
- 22:25Speaker 2: I don't, I might have, I don't. It does not
- 22:27Speaker 2: ring in any bills.
- 22:28Speaker 1: It's a rom com where she's in a relationship with
- 22:30Speaker 1: another woman and she her I can't remember whose family,
- 22:33Speaker 1: but one of the families is kind of you know, conservative,
- 22:36Speaker 1: so they don't.
- 22:37Speaker 2: Seen I've heard so good streaming anywhere.
- 22:40Speaker 1: It's on Hulu. I think it's a Hulu original. And
- 22:42Speaker 1: also Dan Levy is in that from uh, what's this
- 22:47Speaker 1: goddamn show? He's in Dan Shit's Creek. Okay, yeah, you
- 22:50Speaker 1: know Eugene Levy's son, So he's in that playing her
- 22:52Speaker 1: best friend. And that's yeah, She's Creek is great, yes,
- 22:56Speaker 1: but yeah, it's a really good one. Also, Mackenzie Davis
- 22:58Speaker 1: is in that one too, and that she plays the
- 23:00Speaker 1: love interest. She's from Terminator, you know, Blade Runner, all
- 23:03Speaker 1: that stuff. So yeah, Happiest Season is great. And that's
- 23:06Speaker 1: another It's it is a comedy, but it is more.
- 23:08Speaker 1: It is also like a romance drama. And it's another
- 23:11Speaker 1: one that Chris and Steward just absolutely kills. So all right,
- 23:15Speaker 1: we've gone down a lot of rabbit trails. Holy shit,
- 23:17Speaker 1: this has been great. This is why I like doing
- 23:19Speaker 1: the podcast with you. We start, we start talking about
- 23:21Speaker 1: Shaquille O'Neal, and we end up with I don't even
- 23:23Speaker 1: know where, but we should probably Oh you know what, No, no,
- 23:27Speaker 1: there's one more thing we have to get into. We
- 23:29Speaker 1: have to know I have to know you saw Morevius yes,
- 23:33Speaker 1: yesterday correct or whenever last night? Go just go what happened?
- 23:39Speaker 1: How was it?
- 23:40Speaker 2: One word?
- 23:41Speaker 1: Oh god? No?
- 23:42Speaker 2: No, worst than than the Netflix Daredevil.
- 23:47Speaker 1: I heard it's worse than Suicide Squad.
- 23:51Speaker 2: Oh man, let's I was going with Marvel. I was
- 23:53Speaker 2: just doing Marvel movies. I was, I was, I wasn't
- 23:56Speaker 2: Squads DC.
- 23:56Speaker 1: No, no, no, I know. I just heard it was worse.
- 23:58Speaker 2: I gave it a two and didn't like it.
- 24:01Speaker 1: Oh and there's.
- 24:02Speaker 2: One thing, one thing I liked about the entire movie,
- 24:06Speaker 2: and it was overplayed and it really pissed me off.
- 24:11Speaker 2: They they, you know they, I mean, you see the
- 24:14Speaker 2: part of this in the trailer, so like it's not
- 24:15Speaker 2: really a spoiler unless you haven't seen the trailer anyways,
- 24:17Speaker 2: But honestly, with this movie, who the fuck cares? Because Sony,
- 24:21Speaker 2: first of all, in the trailer, one of the mid
- 24:24Speaker 2: credits scenes are in the actual trailer. Oh yeah, they've
- 24:28Speaker 2: already fucked that up.
- 24:29Speaker 1: That's kind of weird.
- 24:30Speaker 2: Sony and the director before the red carpet premiere spoiled
- 24:34Speaker 2: ninety percent of the movie before the even premiere because.
- 24:35Speaker 1: They didn't give a shiti.
- 24:38Speaker 2: So that alone tells you is it going to be good?
- 24:40Speaker 1: No? Well, and it also got pushed eight times, eight.
- 24:43Speaker 2: Times, I believe, which which was which is now on
- 24:45Speaker 2: the record because on New Mutants had seven geez And
- 24:49Speaker 2: in my head, I'm like, you gotta push this many
- 24:50Speaker 2: times and we still get this shit. Maybe you had
- 24:52Speaker 2: plenty of time to retweak some stuff, so so let
- 24:55Speaker 2: me so. The only thing that I really liked about
- 24:58Speaker 2: it was the the sonar that they did with.
- 25:03Speaker 1: It, because oh the location.
- 25:04Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought that was cool, but they overplayed it.
- 25:07Speaker 2: First of all, the movie's an hour and forty four,
- 25:08Speaker 2: so take out ten minutes of credits. Movies like an
- 25:10Speaker 2: hour and third, which is fine, but this movie definitely
- 25:13Speaker 2: would have benefited for another fifteen to twenty minutes. Oh wow,
- 25:16Speaker 2: easily interesting, very because so I'm just gonna I'm not
- 25:21Speaker 2: gonna like say many scenes. I'm just gonna give you
- 25:23Speaker 2: words to describe this movie, which is how I felt
- 25:25Speaker 2: when it was over. Obviously the word no U. So
- 25:29Speaker 2: we got lazy, formulaic, and predictable. And for a Marvel movie,
- 25:35Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, Marvel movies are kind of predictable and
- 25:37Speaker 2: formulaic at this point, but like as an ordinar story.
- 25:41Speaker 2: It like as an order story for somebody hasn't been
- 25:43Speaker 2: introduced yet. It shouldn't have been that. Yeah, like what
- 25:48Speaker 2: I mean lazy? I mean it's literally like somebody wrote
- 25:51Speaker 2: this script half asleep and just called it a day
- 25:53Speaker 2: and said, let's film it.
- 25:55Speaker 1: Which is funny because the man who wrote it is
- 25:57Speaker 1: a man named Daniel Espinoza. And he also did Life,
- 26:01Speaker 1: which I haven't seen but heard was pretty bazy, Yeah,
- 26:04Speaker 1: which I heard was very good.
- 26:05Speaker 2: And that's unfortunate because of how good that movie was.
- 26:08Speaker 1: And also a movie called safe House with Ryan Reynolds
- 26:11Speaker 1: which was also awesome, Yeah, which I also heard was good.
- 26:13Speaker 1: So don't know what happened with the writing on this
- 26:16Speaker 1: because you've done two other things that are well received.
- 26:20Speaker 2: Well okay, so so well well obviously with Marvel movies
- 26:25Speaker 2: and stuff Disney or Old No, this is actually Sony,
- 26:28Speaker 2: but like they're more critiqued than the other two movies
- 26:33Speaker 2: would be, like they're more like somebody wants more creative
- 26:36Speaker 2: control because it's a superhero film type of thing versus
- 26:38Speaker 2: the other two were just movies to be made, like
- 26:41Speaker 2: safeouseide Dezel Washington, Ryan Reynolds, It was a it was
- 26:45Speaker 2: an action year. I mean it was a it was
- 26:46Speaker 2: by the book's action movie, but it was a lot
- 26:48Speaker 2: of fun because of the actors involved in it. And
- 26:50Speaker 2: then Life was.
- 26:52Speaker 1: Again another crazy bailed movie. You've got Jake Jillen Hall,
- 26:56Speaker 1: You've got Rebecca Fergus and Ryan Reynolds.
- 26:58Speaker 2: To be honest, like, and people still to this day
- 27:00Speaker 2: and I believe it, like it's a prequel Divenom. And
- 27:03Speaker 2: when you watch the Life, if you watch the movie,
- 27:04Speaker 2: you kind of understand that.
- 27:05Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never seen it. I've never seen that.
- 27:07Speaker 2: I mean, it's not a prequel Divenom, but like a
- 27:09Speaker 2: lot of people still say like it is because of
- 27:12Speaker 2: the things that that Life's about, Like it's a I
- 27:14Speaker 2: mean the whole movie is shot in space, in the spaceship.
- 27:17Speaker 1: Like I love space movies. Those are some of my favorite.
- 27:20Speaker 2: Oh it's a great it's a great movie. I highly
- 27:22Speaker 2: recommend it.
- 27:22Speaker 1: Now. Don't get this confused with High Life, which is
- 27:25Speaker 1: another a twenty four movie with Robert Pattinson. Those are
- 27:28Speaker 1: different movies, and that's what I got. I got those
- 27:30Speaker 1: confused multiple times because of that, you know, they're they're
- 27:33Speaker 1: near the same movie. But yeah, high Life. That is
- 27:36Speaker 1: a twenty four Robert Pattins in Life, Jake Jillenhall, Ryan Reynolds,
- 27:40Speaker 1: joint yep.
- 27:41Speaker 2: But like morvious, like they had me for about the
- 27:43Speaker 2: first twenty five minutes, like in a good way. I'm like, Okay,
- 27:46Speaker 2: we got something interesting, like I think it's going on
- 27:49Speaker 2: and literally shotgun it like like the villain was garbage,
- 27:52Speaker 2: like you saw it coming a mile away, and then
- 27:54Speaker 2: it was just it was so anti climactic, like there
- 27:56Speaker 2: was there was the most i'mactic seen in that movie
- 28:01Speaker 2: was a scene where a batcher just flying around.
- 28:03Speaker 1: Yeah. And it's really funny because I've seen all over TikTok.
- 28:06Speaker 1: They're like my initial reaction before Morbius. I'm ready to go,
- 28:09Speaker 1: and then they get back in their car or back
- 28:11Speaker 1: to home, they're like, just no.
- 28:13Speaker 2: One of my favorite ones. Us people are like, yeah,
- 28:16Speaker 2: so I came home to somebody broke into my house
- 28:18Speaker 2: and let and they didn't take anything, but they left
- 28:20Speaker 2: two Morebius tickets. Said I'd rather go to jail.
- 28:25Speaker 1: I'd rather not see that movie.
- 28:27Speaker 2: So it's it's not good.
- 28:29Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's funny because we've seen the trailer. I've
- 28:31Speaker 1: been literally watching that trailer for I swear at this
- 28:34Speaker 1: point of goddamn year, if not more, if not more,
- 28:38Speaker 1: and me and Gabby every time we have to go
- 28:40Speaker 1: to the theater and see it, we're just like I
- 28:41Speaker 1: will always go to the bathroom at that point, but like,
- 28:43Speaker 1: I don't need to see this. Taking trailer even.
- 28:45Speaker 2: The two mid credits scenes, which one of them spoiled
- 28:48Speaker 2: already in the trailer, was ridiculous, but like they don't
- 28:51Speaker 2: even they don't even feel like mid credits scenes. They
- 28:53Speaker 2: just feel like, oh, here's some deleted scenes that were
- 28:55Speaker 2: off the table, let's just play it. Like they felt
- 28:57Speaker 2: that they didn't even feel real all the whole production,
- 29:01Speaker 2: just like the CGI was wonky.
- 29:03Speaker 1: It was just yeah, two point zero out of five
- 29:06Speaker 1: on letterbox. So that's gonna be a movie. I will
- 29:09Speaker 1: wait till it comes to digital.
- 29:12Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a free Yeah, that's a whatever movie. And Hobnessly,
- 29:16Speaker 2: if someone spoils that movie for you, it's really not
- 29:18Speaker 2: that's that big.
- 29:18Speaker 1: I'm not gonna care. Does it have any impact in
- 29:22Speaker 1: the MCU at all? Yes it does. Yes, So I
- 29:26Speaker 1: didn't like I need to see it then.
- 29:28Speaker 2: I mean I can easily just it's literally the end
- 29:31Speaker 2: credit scene is the only thing that has anything to
- 29:33Speaker 2: do with anything. I mean, obviously they're introducing Morbius, and
- 29:35Speaker 2: I feel like he might be introduced, like he might
- 29:38Speaker 2: they might put him in blades somewhere because so funny enough,
- 29:40Speaker 2: in the original Blade with with Wesley Snipes, a deleted
- 29:44Speaker 2: ending had the character Morbius in it. Oh yep, oh
- 29:48Speaker 2: so one of So the only really significance of this
- 29:51Speaker 2: movie to the MCU is one of the end credits
- 29:54Speaker 2: scenes describing something. But that's really it, Like you, like,
- 29:57Speaker 2: if you took out the end credit scene and just
- 29:58Speaker 2: saw this movie, it wouldn't have anything to do with anything.
- 30:02Speaker 2: That's a shame, except for introducing Morbies as a character.
- 30:05Speaker 1: As a person.
- 30:06Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that that was really it. So like I
- 30:08Speaker 2: could literally tell, like I'm not gonna do it all
- 30:10Speaker 2: over the podcast, but like, if you want to know,
- 30:11Speaker 2: I can literally.
- 30:12Speaker 1: Sorry, probably will I don't. I don't care about this movie.
- 30:14Speaker 1: I haven't yet, all right, I haven't cared about it
- 30:17Speaker 1: for quite some time. But yeah, that's what I wanted
- 30:20Speaker 1: to know. I wanted to hear. I've been hearing it
- 30:22Speaker 1: all over TikTok, all over social media. That it's just
- 30:24Speaker 1: not good. And I'm gonna obviously, i'll take your word
- 30:28Speaker 1: over social media because we have very similar tastes. As
- 30:31Speaker 1: that's gonna show talking about this fucking movie here.
- 30:34Speaker 2: I just think Jared Leto should I mean, I like
- 30:36Speaker 2: him as an actor, but he should stay away from comic movies.
- 30:38Speaker 1: He should just yeah, he should just stop.
- 30:40Speaker 2: Because because he's now screwed up a DC movie. Well, okay,
- 30:43Speaker 2: that movie is already screwed up, but he he didn't
- 30:46Speaker 2: bring anything better to the table for that movie. And
- 30:48Speaker 2: then also this movie.
- 30:49Speaker 1: No, no, just double no. Yeah. All right, on that note,
- 30:54Speaker 1: let's talk about a movie that's actually significant and fucking amazing,
- 30:58Speaker 1: and that is Alligator, the topic of this episode. This
- 31:02Speaker 1: movie was released in nineteen eighty on November fourteenth of
- 31:05Speaker 1: that year in the USA. Rated R for mild sex
- 31:09Speaker 1: and nudity, severe violence and gore, mild profanity, one use
- 31:14Speaker 1: of the word fuck that is that you get you
- 31:16Speaker 1: get one fuck, mild alcohol, drugs and smoking, and moderate
- 31:20Speaker 1: frightening and intense scenes. We've got a run time of
- 31:23Speaker 1: an hour and thirty one minutes. Listed as a horror
- 31:26Speaker 1: sci fi thriller, which I find interesting because what part
- 31:29Speaker 1: of this is sci fi? Honest? The size the gator.
- 31:33Speaker 1: I mean, but like even then, like that's it.
- 31:35Speaker 2: All it could take is one little part because because
- 31:37Speaker 2: that's the plot of the movie basically, now, all it
- 31:40Speaker 2: could take is one little like like subplot and be
- 31:42Speaker 2: like yeah, cause I'm sure sure there's other like I mean,
- 31:45Speaker 2: I'm sure, you know, like Chucky or something's considered sci
- 31:48Speaker 2: fi somewhere, one of them.
- 31:49Speaker 1: Maybe, I don't know. I just thought it was funny.
- 31:51Speaker 2: Sci fi in the sense that you know, a gator
- 31:53Speaker 2: that size is not a real thing.
- 31:56Speaker 1: I mean, that's true. I don't think there's a thirty
- 31:58Speaker 1: six foot gator anywhere that I know of.
- 32:00Speaker 2: I mean, Lake Placid, money would be considered sci fi
- 32:02Speaker 2: thinking about it, But I don't know. O, son of
- 32:05Speaker 2: a bitch, let me check it out, because it's the
- 32:07Speaker 2: only other movie I can think of a gator being
- 32:09Speaker 2: fucking huge.
- 32:10Speaker 1: Action comedy horror.
- 32:13Speaker 2: Sorry, I could see that, though, I can see the
- 32:15Speaker 2: comedy because Betty White.
- 32:16Speaker 1: Oh Betty White, she's a goddamn national treasure, said too soon,
- 32:20Speaker 1: she went too soon. We've got this directed by a
- 32:24Speaker 1: man named Lewis Tigue, who has directed thirty things, including
- 32:28Speaker 1: Kujo and Kat's. I definitely a good choice for this
- 32:32Speaker 1: because you know, if you know anything about Kujo, you
- 32:34Speaker 1: know it's about a you know, it's well, it's a
- 32:36Speaker 1: giant dog. But I mean he's really just a Saint Bernard,
- 32:38Speaker 1: I think. But he's definitely a big dog. So that
- 32:41Speaker 1: was a good, good, uh good choice. On directors, We've
- 32:44Speaker 1: got it written by a man named John Sales Stiles.
- 32:48Speaker 1: I can't I don't know how to pronounce your name. Uh.
- 32:50Speaker 1: He did a screenplay and story, and then a man
- 32:52Speaker 1: named Frank Ray Perelli did the story as well. John
- 32:56Speaker 1: has thirty nine acting credits. Also, he also did the
- 32:59Speaker 1: screen play for the original Piranha and Howling, which are
- 33:03Speaker 1: both Jodante joints. But I think the Howling is Jodontae.
- 33:06Speaker 1: I know Purana is Jodante. I'm pretty sure the Howling
- 33:08Speaker 1: is Jodante as well. Frank has fifteen writing credits and
- 33:12Speaker 1: has only done nothing that I recognized besides Alligator, so
- 33:15Speaker 1: good for him. Music by a man named Craig Huxley.
- 33:19Speaker 1: He only has ten composer credits, and I saw nothing
- 33:22Speaker 1: else that I recognized. But this is where it gets
- 33:26Speaker 1: interesting because He has ninety seven credits in the music
- 33:28Speaker 1: department and has worked on movies like Apocalypse Now, Poulter Guys, Friday,
- 33:32Speaker 1: The Thirteenth, Part three, Psycho two, Aliens, Back to the
- 33:37Speaker 1: Future two and three total Recall seven, Austin Powers two
- 33:40Speaker 1: and three, so Spy Who Shagged Me? And Goldmember and
- 33:43Speaker 1: Doctor Sleep. Pretty wide range of stuff there. So, yeah,
- 33:48Speaker 1: he didn't compose them, but he did minor things like
- 33:50Speaker 1: synthesizers for Apocalypse Now or whatever. So he was in
- 33:54Speaker 1: the music department doing things on these movies, which is
- 33:56Speaker 1: really kind of cool. That's why I really like diving
- 33:59Speaker 1: into this stuff because you can see who's done what,
- 34:01Speaker 1: and it's just really interesting how much this guy's done.
- 34:04Speaker 1: I mean, from Apocalypse Now to Doctor Sleep. That's just
- 34:07Speaker 1: so cool. Cinematography by a man named Joseph Man Jean
- 34:11Speaker 1: or Man John. However you say that, I don't know.
- 34:14Speaker 1: He has thirty two credits for cinematography and has done
- 34:17Speaker 1: things like I Drink Your Blood uncredited, although I've said
- 34:21Speaker 1: this before. It's funny how they will say uncredited because
- 34:24Speaker 1: you're still credited as being uncredited. Yeah, so it's kind
- 34:27Speaker 1: of weird. He also did he with a dp on Squirm,
- 34:31Speaker 1: The Sword and the Sorcerer Alone in the Dark, which
- 34:33Speaker 1: is something that we've reviewed ye Neon Maniacs, and the
- 34:37Speaker 1: sequel to this movie, Alligator to the Mutation, So Cool Beans,
- 34:41Speaker 1: starring a man named Robert Forrester as David Madison, who
- 34:45Speaker 1: I didn't even fucking know passed away in twenty nineteen.
- 34:48Speaker 1: I had no clue. I saw his like, you know,
- 34:53Speaker 1: like the year from and two, and I was like,
- 34:54Speaker 1: oh my god, I guess I just must have missed that.
- 34:57Speaker 1: But this man has one hundred and eighty nine acting credits.
- 35:00Speaker 1: He's done so many things, ranging from Jackie Brown to
- 35:03Speaker 1: the remake of Psycho Me Myself and Irene and Mulholland Drive.
- 35:08Speaker 1: Dude lived a good life acting and this was one
- 35:10Speaker 1: of his earlier things, obviously because this was from nineteen eighty,
- 35:14Speaker 1: but yeah, he did a lot of stuff. Then we've
- 35:17Speaker 1: got Robin Reiker, the heart throb of this movie, as
- 35:20Speaker 1: Marissa Kendall, who has one hundred acting credits, this being
- 35:23Speaker 1: her first movie. Actually, she only did about three or
- 35:26Speaker 1: four things in television before this, and this is crazy
- 35:29Speaker 1: because she hasn't done a lot of tea or a
- 35:31Speaker 1: lot of movies, but apparently she was in Fucking Brink,
- 35:35Speaker 1: the Disney Channel skating movie that I hold so close
- 35:38Speaker 1: to my heart. I don't know if you've ever seen that.
- 35:40Speaker 1: It's literally it's a Disney Channel original movie about rollers,
- 35:44Speaker 1: about rollerblading and like competitions and shit. Apparently she is
- 35:47Speaker 1: in that. Her name is Madison Brinker, so I guess
- 35:50Speaker 1: she's the mom. I'm gonna need to rewatch that now
- 35:52Speaker 1: because I didn't realize she was even in that. She
- 35:55Speaker 1: was also in a movie from twenty nineteen called Psycho
- 35:57Speaker 1: Granny directed by Rebecca McKendree, who is a great director.
- 36:01Speaker 1: I have not seen that movie, but now I'm going
- 36:04Speaker 1: to watch it because I love Robin Reger. She's great.
- 36:07Speaker 1: But yeah, she really does primarily TV shows and does
- 36:11Speaker 1: not have a lot of like movie credits. She's been
- 36:13Speaker 1: in all sorts of things from like The Think, the
- 36:15Speaker 1: Bold and Beautiful to like other stuff as well, But like,
- 36:19Speaker 1: I wish she did more TV because she was fucking
- 36:21Speaker 1: great in this. I loved her in this movie. Then
- 36:24Speaker 1: we have Michael Gazo as Chief Clark, who has sixty
- 36:27Speaker 1: seven acting credits, done things like The Godfather Part two,
- 36:30Speaker 1: Cannonball Run two and Last Action Hero. And then we've
- 36:34Speaker 1: got Dean Jagger as Slade. He has one hundred and
- 36:37Speaker 1: thirty two acting credits. He started working in the late
- 36:40Speaker 1: nineteen twenties. Yeah, all the way through nineteen eighty five.
- 36:44Speaker 1: This was the third to last film he did, and
- 36:46Speaker 1: the only thing I recognized that he did from that
- 36:49Speaker 1: time was White Christmas from nineteen fifty four. Okay, so
- 36:52Speaker 1: the man acted for nearly fifty years. Good for him,
- 36:55Speaker 1: that's crazy. And then he passed away I think in
- 36:58Speaker 1: the eighties or nineties. But I mean, dude, I went
- 37:01Speaker 1: back to I was scrolling down through his IMDb. I'm like,
- 37:03Speaker 1: nineteen twenty nine, Like Jesus Christ, I'm not going to
- 37:06Speaker 1: recognize any of this shit. But I mean, yeah, he's
- 37:09Speaker 1: got a whole bunch of credits for that. Definitely a
- 37:12Speaker 1: good actor. So we've got an estimated budget of one
- 37:16Speaker 1: point five million and a worldwide box office gross of
- 37:20Speaker 1: question Mark. I'm not sure if this had a theatrical release.
- 37:23Speaker 1: I don't know. I couldn't find anything that said or
- 37:27Speaker 1: hinted to this having a theatrical release. I'm not sure.
- 37:30Speaker 1: I mean, it was nineteen eighty so not all. I mean,
- 37:33Speaker 1: like looking around, like around when we get to the
- 37:35Speaker 1: stuff that came out around the same time, there's not
- 37:37Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that was notable that came out
- 37:40Speaker 1: around the same time. So I have no idea. This
- 37:43Speaker 1: movie was filmed in La of course, and correct me
- 37:47Speaker 1: if I'm wrong though, because we watched that little snippet
- 37:49Speaker 1: with Brian Kranstay. They used real Stewards to film.
- 37:52Speaker 2: I don't know if there's every scene, but a lot
- 37:54Speaker 2: of a lot of the uh, like a lot of
- 37:57Speaker 2: the A lot of scenes they used actual like man
- 38:00Speaker 2: man sewers.
- 38:00Speaker 1: Yeah, like actual sewers in LA which I.
- 38:03Speaker 2: Know they built a little like set wise too, but
- 38:06Speaker 2: like a lot of like a lot of like the
- 38:09Speaker 2: just walking through the sewers were actually like.
- 38:10Speaker 1: The actual sewers, yes, which is crazy. Save money, It
- 38:14Speaker 1: saves some money. It makes me appreciate the movie more
- 38:16Speaker 1: because like you didn't have the enemy, especially with the
- 38:18Speaker 1: budget of one point five million, they're not building all
- 38:20Speaker 1: those sewers down there that would take so much cash. Yeah,
- 38:24Speaker 1: you can actually watch this now on Amazon because before
- 38:28Speaker 1: the four K came out that we bought from Scream Factoring,
- 38:31Speaker 1: this was nowhere I couldn't find it anywhere, but apparently
- 38:33Speaker 1: I did double check. You can rent this on Amazon
- 38:35Speaker 1: between two ninety nine and three ninety nine, depending on
- 38:38Speaker 1: quality you have HD and you know SD, or you
- 38:41Speaker 1: can buy it from eight ninety nine to nine ninety
- 38:43Speaker 1: nine as well, depending on quality. But nothing, nothing is
- 38:46Speaker 1: going to compare to the four K that we got
- 38:48Speaker 1: from Screen Factory.
- 38:50Speaker 2: I don't know nothing, but it looks great.
- 38:52Speaker 1: That movie looks so good. The first time we watched
- 38:54Speaker 1: it was at your house, and I just remember about
- 38:56Speaker 1: ten minutes in being like, why does this why there's
- 39:00Speaker 1: no point, there's no reason for this movie that no
- 39:02Speaker 1: one's really ever heard of. It's a very under like underrated,
- 39:06Speaker 1: like no one's really talking about Alligator from nineteen eighty,
- 39:10Speaker 1: but like, why does this look better than movies that
- 39:12Speaker 1: have come out recently? Like it was gorgeous.
- 39:15Speaker 2: Yeah, they did a really good four K scan.
- 39:17Speaker 1: And even in the even in the you know, the
- 39:19Speaker 1: sewers and stuff like that. Typically, when in darker settings,
- 39:22Speaker 1: you're gonna get more grain, especially with the older movies,
- 39:24Speaker 1: especially with older movies, but this movie, like the Blacks
- 39:26Speaker 1: are black, like the Blackest it was clean. It's so
- 39:29Speaker 1: clean it clean. So you can get that from Amazon
- 39:32Speaker 1: for twenty nine to forty six currently, or directly from
- 39:35Speaker 1: screen Factory for probably a little bit more. I don't
- 39:37Speaker 1: know how, but Amazon tends to be a little bit
- 39:39Speaker 1: cheaper with their screen factories, which again I don't know
- 39:43Speaker 1: how that works, but I would suggest just buying the
- 39:45Speaker 1: four K. If you have a four K player and
- 39:47Speaker 1: a four K TV.
- 39:48Speaker 2: Well, the four K comes with with the Blu Ray
- 39:49Speaker 2: as well. So even if you buy the four K
- 39:51Speaker 2: and you don't have a four K Blue you used
- 39:53Speaker 2: to watch in Blu ray, which is a comes from
- 39:54Speaker 2: a four K scan.
- 39:55Speaker 1: Well, I saw in mind it's three discs, it's four K,
- 39:58Speaker 1: and then they had the theatrical and then they have
- 40:00Speaker 1: the television versions.
- 40:01Speaker 2: Is the theatrical, the theatrical is the is the Blue ray,
- 40:06Speaker 2: and then the theat and then the extended or whatever.
- 40:08Speaker 2: It's just DVD I believe.
- 40:10Speaker 1: Okay, so that makes a lot of sense then, but yeah,
- 40:12Speaker 1: I would suggest just getting the four K. It is
- 40:14Speaker 1: absolutely magnificent and actually played into my rating because it
- 40:18Speaker 1: looked so good. I was just so impressed by how
- 40:20Speaker 1: it looked. Movies that came out around the same time.
- 40:23Speaker 1: We've got Motel Hell, which we've reviewed. Weird movie for sure,
- 40:29Speaker 1: The Awakening, Raging Bull, Flash Gordon, and Popeye, which I've
- 40:34Speaker 1: never seen Popeye from the eighties?
- 40:36Speaker 2: Is that that's the one whe Robin Williams plus Popeye.
- 40:38Speaker 1: Right, Robin Williams, Yeah what Yeah?
- 40:42Speaker 2: He was Popeye.
- 40:43Speaker 1: That's a I mean, I can't think words. I guess
- 40:48Speaker 1: that makes sense, but it's also kind of an odd choice. No,
- 40:52Speaker 1: am I wrong? If you watched the movie now Popeye
- 40:55Speaker 1: nineteen eighty.
- 40:56Speaker 2: Pretty sure Rob Williams was just play Popeye.
- 40:58Speaker 1: Oh my god, Shelley Duvolve plays fucking olive Oil. Yeah,
- 41:04Speaker 1: Robin Williams is Popeye. Shelley Duval is Olive Oil or
- 41:08Speaker 1: you know, oyl anybody else Paul Dooley, you know that
- 41:13Speaker 1: the name sounds familiar? Oh my god, got a two
- 41:16Speaker 1: point eight. It wasn't. That's so funny. And this was
- 41:21Speaker 1: Oh I wonder when this came out? Was this because
- 41:23Speaker 1: this was night so Shining came out in nineteen eighty
- 41:25Speaker 1: as well. I wonder if this was prior to or
- 41:29Speaker 1: after the Shining because I know Shelley look shows the dates.
- 41:32Speaker 1: I know Shelley Duvall. Of course, you know, after the
- 41:34Speaker 1: Shining was just completely fucked up from Kubrick.
- 41:37Speaker 2: So they probably just filmed. She probably filmed Popeye first,
- 41:41Speaker 2: or or maybe like Popeye, maybe had a Stascle run
- 41:43Speaker 2: while she was filming Shining.
- 41:45Speaker 1: June thirteenth, nineteen eighty for The Shining. And I mean
- 41:49Speaker 1: obviously this came out around the same time as you know, November.
- 41:53Speaker 2: So they're probably shooting at the same time.
- 41:55Speaker 1: December twelfth night. So yeah, so Popeye was shortly after
- 42:00Speaker 1: The Shining. Oh wow, that's crazy. I had no idea
- 42:04Speaker 1: this movie existed. And let alone. Oh that's Rain, That
- 42:09Speaker 1: is Rain, son of a bitch yep. Wow. Okay, so
- 42:12Speaker 1: now I absolutely have to watch this. Robin Williams and
- 42:14Speaker 1: Shelley Duvall all right, cool, So.
- 42:16Speaker 2: That's interesting that these movies, these are the tough of
- 42:18Speaker 2: movies that came out. Think because we were talking about
- 42:20Speaker 2: theatrical runs. Reggie Bull clearly got a theatrical run.
- 42:23Speaker 1: Flash Gordon had to have got a theatrical run.
- 42:26Speaker 2: Oh, the Weakening for sure.
- 42:27Speaker 1: I don't know about Moto.
- 42:29Speaker 2: I don't know about Moto hell, but like Popeye, did
- 42:31Speaker 2: I know all the all of them, but Moto. Hell,
- 42:33Speaker 2: I'm pretty positive I got theatrical runs, so like maybe
- 42:36Speaker 2: Elegator did, and we.
- 42:38Speaker 1: Just you know, yeah, I just didn't see any of it,
- 42:41Speaker 1: like a small run. Yeah, I just didn't see any
- 42:43Speaker 1: information on what it grows in theaters. But you know,
- 42:46Speaker 1: that could have been something like, you know, because I'm
- 42:48Speaker 1: sure this was I don't know, one point five million.
- 42:50Speaker 1: That does seem like a lot for nineteen eighty but
- 42:52Speaker 1: that definitely seems like a much lower budget because we
- 42:56Speaker 1: just did we just talked about April Fool's Day, last episode,
- 42:59Speaker 1: and I think the budget and that was five million,
- 43:01Speaker 1: and that was from nineteen eighty six. Yeah, so that
- 43:03Speaker 1: is you know, that's nearly a fifth of the budget,
- 43:06Speaker 1: you know, like a third of the budget that this had.
- 43:09Speaker 1: I'm curious to see this. This will be the telling
- 43:12Speaker 1: factor right here, to see what the what the budget
- 43:14Speaker 1: was on the Shining, which I'm sure, okay, the Shining
- 43:17Speaker 1: was nineteen million dollars, no, I know, but I'm saying,
- 43:21Speaker 1: when you think about it Shining, ninety million, this one
- 43:23Speaker 1: point five So this was more of I'm sure like
- 43:25Speaker 1: an indie film or what you would label as an
- 43:27Speaker 1: indie film. Back in that time, we.
- 43:29Speaker 2: Got like a like a select theaters in like California
- 43:32Speaker 2: and New York type of thing.
- 43:33Speaker 1: Yeah, because you know this movie, really I hadn't I
- 43:35Speaker 1: heard about it like a year or two ago, and
- 43:38Speaker 1: I couldn't find it anywhere, and I've been dying to
- 43:40Speaker 1: watch this movie. And finally when they when Scream Factory
- 43:43Speaker 1: announced they were doing the four K, I was like
- 43:45Speaker 1: beyond excited because I'd been trying to track down a
- 43:48Speaker 1: copy of this movie for so long. So yeah, it
- 43:51Speaker 1: just must have been a movie that really didn't get
- 43:52Speaker 1: a lot of love or a lot of attention back then.
- 43:55Speaker 1: And you know that's what Screen Factory does. They love
- 43:58Speaker 1: the the cult movies, Yeah, and they love doing blu
- 44:01Speaker 1: rays of them, so in four k's. And I'm really
- 44:04Speaker 1: happy they decided to do to do the four K
- 44:06Speaker 1: of this movie because it does look so good. I'm
- 44:08Speaker 1: sure blue rays would have looked fine, but.
- 44:11Speaker 2: Well it's it's a four K, so it's not gonna
- 44:13Speaker 2: look bad.
- 44:14Speaker 1: I know, But I'm just saying, I'm just I'm happy
- 44:16Speaker 1: that they actually did the four K as opposed to
- 44:17Speaker 1: the the blu ray quality. Yeah, because we all know
- 44:20Speaker 1: those those fucking Doby Blacks are just amazing. So yeah,
- 44:26Speaker 1: I guess this's just maybe, you know, like you're saying,
- 44:28Speaker 1: it probably just had like maybe a limited theatrical run.
- 44:31Speaker 1: I don't know. I have no I was I was
- 44:33Speaker 1: not alive in this time. I have no I have
- 44:35Speaker 1: no other knowledge besides what I'm getting from IMDb. Yeah,
- 44:39Speaker 1: but nonetheless, yeah, I definitely recommend getting the four K
- 44:43Speaker 1: because this movie is such a gem and it's actually
- 44:45Speaker 1: I told you before we went on air, this movie
- 44:47Speaker 1: has actually gone up and ratings since the last time
- 44:50Speaker 1: I checked. It was a three to two before the
- 44:52Speaker 1: four K came out. Now it's a three three and
- 44:54Speaker 1: like they like, the stats are just are just keep
- 44:57Speaker 1: going up on this movie. So we definitely got to
- 44:59Speaker 1: get into the what's going on here? Did you have
- 45:02Speaker 1: any sort of any like any of the stuff we
- 45:04Speaker 1: got here? Do you have any specific horror moments that
- 45:06Speaker 1: you liked?
- 45:06Speaker 2: There wasn't much of a I mean, there wasn't much
- 45:08Speaker 2: horror moments in this movie, to be quite honest.
- 45:10Speaker 1: Okay, well I have I did. I did manage to
- 45:12Speaker 1: fill out everything besides favorite kill because a lot of
- 45:15Speaker 1: the kills were off screen and I guess my horror
- 45:17Speaker 1: moment can be roped into the kill. But my favorite
- 45:20Speaker 1: horror moment was when the cop crashed the car, hops
- 45:24Speaker 1: out of the cop car, and the gators on the street.
- 45:29Speaker 2: I was gonna say that is my favorite kill. Yeah,
- 45:31Speaker 2: so I'll just because because like.
- 45:34Speaker 1: There's not a lot of horror moments.
- 45:36Speaker 2: It's more just silly.
- 45:37Speaker 1: It's more just silly and but you know, yeah, so
- 45:40Speaker 1: we'll we'll just say that a favorite horror moment and
- 45:42Speaker 1: kill is the cop who's who gets his leg ripped off. Uh.
- 45:45Speaker 1: My favorite character obviously Marissa Kendall. Fucking just She's just
- 45:49Speaker 1: I just like watching her on screen. She's just so
- 45:52Speaker 1: like just gentle and calm about everything.
- 45:55Speaker 2: Everything but everything like earlier she she was handling like
- 45:58Speaker 2: a venomous snake.
- 45:59Speaker 1: Yes, she's okay, she's just such. She's just so I
- 46:03Speaker 1: don't know, like the whole movie was kind of just
- 46:05Speaker 1: chaotic because she's just there to be like the calming,
- 46:08Speaker 1: just like presents. So that's my favorite character, I assume,
- 46:11Speaker 1: agree with you. Yeah, my my least favorite character I didn't.
- 46:14Speaker 1: So I didn't have a least favorite character.
- 46:16Speaker 2: I did.
- 46:17Speaker 1: Oh, go for it. Oh fucking Kemp, Yeah, Kemp.
- 46:23Speaker 2: Here is such a dishart for this guy to make
- 46:27Speaker 2: a look out to be bad for some reason. Why.
- 46:29Speaker 1: So I just so I didn't have a least favorite character,
- 46:32Speaker 1: but I did have like a least favorite thing, and
- 46:34Speaker 1: it was just the blankets, like Slade Pharmaceutical Company, because
- 46:39Speaker 1: they were pieces of ship, taking dogs, murdering them and
- 46:43Speaker 1: then giving them away to the guy who fed them
- 46:45Speaker 1: to the fucking gate, Like what this ship.
- 46:47Speaker 2: They so they don't bark him.
- 46:49Speaker 1: Yeah, So Slade Pharmaceutical as a whole fuck all of them,
- 46:53Speaker 1: I don't like you at all. So that was my
- 46:55Speaker 1: least favorite I guess thing from this.
- 46:57Speaker 2: That's like they kind of play a character in the
- 46:59Speaker 2: movie because that's a big plot point of the movie.
- 47:01Speaker 1: So yeah, all counter does just like least favorite pieces
- 47:05Speaker 1: of shit in the movie. I didn't have a favorite line.
- 47:08Speaker 1: Oh you did? What is it? What is it?
- 47:11Speaker 2: Okay? So at the beginning of the movie when when
- 47:13Speaker 2: when the dad takes the alligator to flush the toilet, Yeah,
- 47:17Speaker 2: the mom is yelling, what are you got to tell?
- 47:19Speaker 2: I forgot her name? The redheads name. Yeah, but he goes,
- 47:23Speaker 2: we'll just we'll just say Dode just like the hamster
- 47:26Speaker 2: and he just and it just doesn't. And she's over
- 47:27Speaker 2: your chasing them above above the like like they're just running,
- 47:32Speaker 2: Like she's chasing in the bathroom watching him flush down
- 47:34Speaker 2: the toilet and it just do. It's like, what are
- 47:36Speaker 2: you going to tell her? We'll just tell her to
- 47:38Speaker 2: DoD just like the hamster.
- 47:39Speaker 1: Like wow, like wow, rude, what did you do to
- 47:41Speaker 1: the hamster flushing down the toilet? Apparently? Uh? My favorite
- 47:46Speaker 1: is My favorite line was when everyone's outside the lake
- 47:50Speaker 1: looking for the gator, throwing grenades into the fucking lake
- 47:54Speaker 1: and there's this guy selling little gators. She's like, shake him,
- 47:56Speaker 1: see him wiggle, take him home to make you giggle.
- 47:58Speaker 1: And I'm just like, that was funny as shit. Such
- 48:02Speaker 1: a stupid line. Let's get into the summary here and
- 48:05Speaker 1: then we'll talk about this movie. Got perfect amount of
- 48:08Speaker 1: time left, so IMDb summary. Pat Baby Alligators flush down
- 48:12Speaker 1: a toilet and survives in the sewers. Twelve years later,
- 48:15Speaker 1: it grows to an enormous size thanks to the diet
- 48:18Speaker 1: of discarded laboratory dogs injected with growth hormones. Just like
- 48:22Speaker 1: you said, now humans have entered the menu, and this
- 48:27Speaker 1: movie starts so aggressively with the gator show. Yeah, when
- 48:31Speaker 1: they're every it's like it's like a if you're from
- 48:33Speaker 1: Florida and you know Gatorland, you know they go out
- 48:35Speaker 1: and do like stunts with gators where they do all
- 48:37Speaker 1: this shit. But it just starts immediately, like this guy
- 48:40Speaker 1: is in the water and the gator just fucking attacks them. Yeah,
- 48:43Speaker 1: blood goes everywhere. The crowd is like in an uproar.
- 48:46Speaker 1: But then we cut to the fucking family buying a
- 48:49Speaker 1: baby gator for the daughter, which is not a thing.
- 48:52Speaker 1: You can't do that. Maybe in the eighties it was
- 48:54Speaker 1: a thing, but I don't think you can just go
- 48:56Speaker 1: buy a little tiny baby gator because she she you know,
- 49:00Speaker 1: she picks one out of the thing after she just
- 49:03Speaker 1: witnessed a gator mall this guy she went.
- 49:06Speaker 2: But she was calm with it all.
- 49:07Speaker 1: She was totally fine. She's like, i'll name you ramone.
- 49:09Speaker 1: She takes him home, and that is very short lived because,
- 49:13Speaker 1: like you just said, the.
- 49:14Speaker 2: Dad like just takes I don't even know why. He's
- 49:17Speaker 2: just like all of a sudden, Like the next scene,
- 49:19Speaker 2: like you see the gater in the tank and just
- 49:20Speaker 2: here yelling and the dad takes the gator runs up
- 49:23Speaker 2: the stairs, and the mom was yelling, what are you
- 49:25Speaker 2: gonna be able to flush it down the toilet? We're
- 49:26Speaker 2: gonna just tell her, Yeah, exactly what I just said earlier.
- 49:29Speaker 2: We'll just tell her what happens is like the hamster, like,
- 49:31Speaker 2: what the fu?
- 49:32Speaker 1: Yeah there, And I even looked on like the synopsis
- 49:34Speaker 1: on IMDb to make sure he didn't miss anything, and
- 49:37Speaker 1: the synopsis is like he flushes gator down toilet for
- 49:39Speaker 1: some reason, and I'm like, yeah, what was the reason.
- 49:41Speaker 2: There was no reason.
- 49:42Speaker 1: There was no inciting incident to be like, oh, we
- 49:44Speaker 1: need to flush the thing down there.
- 49:46Speaker 2: Like the one scene, uh, they buy the gate for
- 49:48Speaker 2: the daughter. The next scene, Getor gets flushed on the toilet. Yeah,
- 49:50Speaker 2: like what.
- 49:51Speaker 1: She's like talking to Ramon and he comes in, bursts
- 49:53Speaker 1: and just picks up, flush down the toilet, Gooche throws
- 49:56Speaker 1: it into the toilet, swirls down. You get a really
- 49:58Speaker 1: cool shot of that. H But yeah, you're like, all right,
- 50:01Speaker 1: So the first like i'd say, six minutes, eight minutes
- 50:04Speaker 1: are just so aggressive and just like why are we
- 50:07Speaker 1: going to zero from like zero to one hundred real quick?
- 50:11Speaker 1: Because then you flash forward twelve fucking years and we
- 50:14Speaker 1: meet David Madison who's Robert Forrester, and he's buying a puppy,
- 50:17Speaker 1: which they don't ever bring that puppy up again that
- 50:20Speaker 1: I can remember. He buys that puppy in the beginning.
- 50:23Speaker 1: And then that's it, Like, where the fuck did that
- 50:25Speaker 1: dog go? I don't remember seeing that dog. It didn't
- 50:28Speaker 1: go down the sewer, I know that. But he gets
- 50:31Speaker 1: a like a beep on his pag er and he goes,
- 50:33Speaker 1: you know, he heads out, and then they get he
- 50:34Speaker 1: gets called to the uh like city water filtration or
- 50:39Speaker 1: whatever where they find that arm. Yeah, there's just a
- 50:41Speaker 1: guy's fucking arm in the sewer or that washes up
- 50:45Speaker 1: in the city filtration. And you know, he's kind he's
- 50:48Speaker 1: like obviously very confused. I would be too if I
- 50:51Speaker 1: just found an arm in the city's water filtration, because
- 50:54Speaker 1: that means the water's probably contaminated at that point with
- 50:58Speaker 1: human being grossness. And then that's when you see the
- 51:02Speaker 1: guy at the pet store. He's like driving his fucking
- 51:04Speaker 1: van around luring dogs into his like his van, and
- 51:07Speaker 1: you're like, what the fuck is going on? And then
- 51:09Speaker 1: you see him go to Slade pharmaceutical and he brings
- 51:12Speaker 1: the dogs to the to the guy the what would
- 51:14Speaker 1: you call like a scientist researcher, because he's like dissecting
- 51:20Speaker 1: a dog on the table and he's like, we need
- 51:22Speaker 1: more puppies. It's like, what about cats? I got cats? No, no, no, no,
- 51:25Speaker 1: we need puppies. And then he's like, you can take
- 51:27Speaker 1: the ones that are left over, just fucking dogs and
- 51:31Speaker 1: bags literally just like you know, like hefty bags of
- 51:35Speaker 1: dogs that he takes out and then brings them down
- 51:39Speaker 1: into the sewer in a fucking shopping cart and dumps
- 51:42Speaker 1: them into the sewer. And then one of the dogs
- 51:46Speaker 1: doesn't make it into the water. So what does he do.
- 51:49Speaker 1: He goes down there, yeah, kicks it in and then
- 51:52Speaker 1: starts to like try to push it further into the sewer,
- 51:55Speaker 1: and then the allegator comes up behind him and gooshes him. Yep. Yeah,
- 51:58Speaker 1: and that's when you get the first glimpse of Okay,
- 52:00Speaker 1: so there's this huge alligator down there and he's just
- 52:03Speaker 1: killing people, even though you know, I thought the rule
- 52:06Speaker 1: was don't bite the hand that feeds you. Yeah, but
- 52:08Speaker 1: he definitely got gooseh immediately. So you have this weird
- 52:12Speaker 1: subplot of this this guy running a pet store, getting
- 52:16Speaker 1: dogs off the street, bringing them to Slay Pharmaceutical for
- 52:18Speaker 1: testing that once those dogs are disposed of, taking them
- 52:21Speaker 1: down to feed this alligator. And that's pretty much it.
- 52:23Speaker 1: He's the Betty White of this movie. Yeah, until he
- 52:26Speaker 1: gets eaten.
- 52:27Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 52:30Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's it's very it's very odd that. And
- 52:34Speaker 1: then after that, of course the guy dies, So there's
- 52:36Speaker 1: no other explanation on that. Who's feeding the gator? No,
- 52:39Speaker 1: one's feeding the gator. Yeah, And this is where we
- 52:42Speaker 1: see Madison going back to the water filtrations like plant
- 52:47Speaker 1: or whatever you want to call it, and he finds
- 52:48Speaker 1: the guy's leg, I think, and he somehow determines that
- 52:52Speaker 1: the leg is not the same from the hand because
- 52:55Speaker 1: this guy cuts his fingernails differently, And you're like, that's
- 52:58Speaker 1: a weird astute observation, And I guess that's.
- 53:00Speaker 2: I mean, that's why he's a detective.
- 53:02Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I guess that's why you're a detective.
- 53:05Speaker 1: So they they know that they they the limbs have
- 53:07Speaker 1: not come from the same people. And then we and
- 53:10Speaker 1: then we get fucking Kemp. Kemp, the guy you hate
- 53:13Speaker 1: the most, grilling this guy at one of like a
- 53:17Speaker 1: like a press conference.
- 53:18Speaker 2: The press conference about these murders, and then all of
- 53:21Speaker 2: a sudden he's like, oh, by the way, let me
- 53:23Speaker 2: be an asshole, what happened to your party? You got stabbed?
- 53:26Speaker 1: Right?
- 53:26Speaker 2: And then there's a puzzling not show yourself.
- 53:29Speaker 1: Out of nowhere. We're talking about the alley. We're not alligator.
- 53:33Speaker 1: We're talking about the you know, the the disappearing dogs,
- 53:36Speaker 1: the the the body parts that are winding up and
- 53:38Speaker 1: the sewers and ship like that. And he's like, oh, yeah,
- 53:40Speaker 1: what happened to your partner? Like what a dig thing
- 53:42Speaker 1: to say that?
- 53:43Speaker 2: There's no has nothing to do with any plot, like
- 53:46Speaker 2: no plot points, Like there's nothing to it. It's not
- 53:48Speaker 2: like they flash back to him having PTSD or anything
- 53:50Speaker 2: with this.
- 53:51Speaker 1: Yeah, they never referenced that part of them, Like, they
- 53:53Speaker 1: never referenced the like the guy that got killed at
- 53:56Speaker 1: the hotel or his partner that got killed at the hotel. Besides,
- 53:59Speaker 1: when can't bring and he brings it up I think
- 54:01Speaker 1: two times, yeah, at least two times, and you're like, bro,
- 54:05Speaker 1: fuck off, why do you have this indebta against me? So, yeah,
- 54:08Speaker 1: you find out he lost a partner in a hotel
- 54:10Speaker 1: incidental is shooting or something like that. I really did
- 54:14Speaker 1: have to mention though, I love the wipes they used
- 54:16Speaker 1: in that one scene the Star Wipe Star. We both
- 54:20Speaker 1: were just like, oh, fucking fancy uh when they were
- 54:24Speaker 1: going through like you know, the newspapers and stuff like that,
- 54:27Speaker 1: that was fucking great. Uh. So at this point, Madison's like, Okay,
- 54:31Speaker 1: I need someone to come check out the sewers with me.
- 54:34Speaker 1: Something's going on, that's why all these body parts are
- 54:37Speaker 1: winding up in the filtration system. He brings the rookie
- 54:40Speaker 1: with them because no one else will else.
- 54:42Speaker 2: Everyone's like, oh boozy, But he's like, oh go.
- 54:45Speaker 1: Yeah because everyone I guess, I guess at this point
- 54:47Speaker 1: they're like, oh, you've had a partner die yeah, which
- 54:50Speaker 1: was five fucking years ago.
- 54:52Speaker 2: Yeah, Like like like, shit happens one time, one time.
- 54:54Speaker 1: It was one time, and it wasn't my fault, and
- 54:56Speaker 1: even the chief was like, it's not your fault. Don't
- 54:58Speaker 1: let these people get into your head. But no one
- 55:00Speaker 1: wants to volunteer to go with Madison except for the rookie.
- 55:03Speaker 1: Rookies like, I'll go, yeah, but I need some boots
- 55:06Speaker 1: because I just polished my shoes and shit, and he's
- 55:08Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, I got you, got you whatever.
- 55:11Speaker 1: And then this is the weirdest part of the movie.
- 55:13Speaker 1: And it's like you said before we went on the show,
- 55:15Speaker 1: because this establishes nothing until the end, until the end.
- 55:18Speaker 1: And it's the guy that comes in with the uh
- 55:21Speaker 1: the clock bomb, the fake bomb. He comes in saying like, oh,
- 55:27Speaker 1: I'm confessing to killing these people. I'm here to kill
- 55:31Speaker 1: every one of you guys, and Madison's like, yeah, okay.
- 55:34Speaker 1: So he acts like he's like gonna walk out the door,
- 55:36Speaker 1: then turns around and grabs him and they realize it's
- 55:39Speaker 1: just a radio. The fuck guy, You're getting booked now
- 55:43Speaker 1: because of that. Yeah, right, so yeah, then this is
- 55:47Speaker 1: when Madison and the rookie go down into the sewers.
- 55:50Speaker 1: They're looking for something anything they can find to figure
- 55:54Speaker 1: out why body parts of people are being like, you know, like,
- 55:58Speaker 1: why why am I finding legs? And the sewits are
- 56:00Speaker 1: in the in the filtracing system, and I really found
- 56:03Speaker 1: this funny because they get separated. Yeah, and then you
- 56:09Speaker 1: know he's looking for I think his name was, what
- 56:11Speaker 1: the fuck was his name? I can't remember the rookie's name.
- 56:13Speaker 1: I'm just gonna call him rookie. They get separated somehow.
- 56:16Speaker 1: He's calling out for the rookie, calling out for their rookie.
- 56:18Speaker 1: And then it's really cool because they recreate the shot
- 56:21Speaker 1: of the beginning of the movie where the pet store
- 56:23Speaker 1: owner gets goosed by the alligator, and they recreate the
- 56:26Speaker 1: same thing because it's the same spot where he got eaten.
- 56:29Speaker 1: But then it's just the fucking rookie that comes out
- 56:31Speaker 1: and the grabs, yeah, grabs Madison's ass, and you're like,
- 56:34Speaker 1: what the fuck, Like, what are you doing?
- 56:36Speaker 3: Guy?
- 56:37Speaker 1: But then that's when they run into the mat and
- 56:39Speaker 1: I think, I think this is the first time you
- 56:41Speaker 1: actually see the gator.
- 56:43Speaker 2: I think, yeah, yeah, because because it was just POV
- 56:46Speaker 2: when when the petner get killed.
- 56:48Speaker 1: Yeah, because you literally see the giant chompers that come
- 56:51Speaker 1: out around the corner in front of the rookie and
- 56:53Speaker 1: they're like holy shit in Madison see like, oh holy fuck.
- 56:56Speaker 1: And then you know they run over there because Madison
- 56:59Speaker 1: I think he like, I think the alligator whips whips
- 57:01Speaker 1: his tail and knocks the rookie over. Yeah, and Madison
- 57:04Speaker 1: comes and run over and then grabs a rookie. They
- 57:07Speaker 1: they book it down the sewer, alligators in hot pursuit
- 57:11Speaker 1: and they try to escape through that manhole cover but
- 57:14Speaker 1: it's like they can't open it. They can't open it,
- 57:17Speaker 1: and Madison's above him while the rookies below him. And
- 57:20Speaker 1: then rookie just gets fucking dragged.
- 57:22Speaker 2: Yep, it just killed, just killed.
- 57:25Speaker 1: It was awesome because you know his feet can. I
- 57:27Speaker 1: love the shot of like the POV coming up to
- 57:29Speaker 1: the manhole because you can see his feet hanging out
- 57:31Speaker 1: and then it just alligator bites his feet, pulls him
- 57:33Speaker 1: down and drags him out.
- 57:34Speaker 2: It feels and I'm sure this is gonna come up
- 57:36Speaker 2: with trivia, but like it just feels which I mean,
- 57:39Speaker 2: we already know this too, but uh, it just feels like,
- 57:42Speaker 2: you know, a Jaws inspiration, Like the way they do
- 57:45Speaker 2: with the POV shots and then the music and then
- 57:47Speaker 2: the way they they like the kills do happen. It
- 57:50Speaker 2: just feels like, you know, somebody watched Jaws, loved it,
- 57:52Speaker 2: wanted to do it with a different type of.
- 57:53Speaker 1: A different type of thing. Well. It's funny too, because
- 57:57Speaker 1: even the first kill the gator does in the sewers,
- 58:00Speaker 1: it's like d D. Dunt.
- 58:01Speaker 2: Yeah, like they do a rip off like a Wish
- 58:04Speaker 2: version of the Jaws.
- 58:05Speaker 1: Yeah, they really lean into that theme of Jaws, which
- 58:09Speaker 1: is which is really cool. So yeah, after that, Madison
- 58:13Speaker 1: wakes up in the hospital and he's like very confused obviously,
- 58:18Speaker 1: as you would be, because the last thing you remember
- 58:20Speaker 1: is being in the sewers and the nurse is like, yeah,
- 58:22Speaker 1: you just popped out of the manhole cover yelling alligator
- 58:24Speaker 1: and he's like okay, cool. So he like puts all
- 58:26Speaker 1: his fucking clothes on the nurse like you can't leave.
- 58:28Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, I'm going because my partner or whatever,
- 58:31Speaker 1: you know, the rookie is missing. Obviously we know he's dead. Yeah,
- 58:36Speaker 1: it's very easy to see he got eaten by a
- 58:38Speaker 1: fucking alligator. Yeah, but this is when we get introduced finally,
- 58:43Speaker 1: about I think about thirty five thirty five minutes in
- 58:45Speaker 1: is when we get introduced to Marissa Kendall, who's like,
- 58:50Speaker 1: what would you describe her as, She's like a like
- 58:52Speaker 1: an animal expert at like a university.
- 58:55Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, because because the because the snake she's
- 58:58Speaker 2: dealing with, She's like to even mention like, yeah, they
- 59:01Speaker 2: belonged to the university.
- 59:02Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's right. They do say that, and she's
- 59:04Speaker 1: literally you see her getting venom out of some sort
- 59:07Speaker 1: of rattlesnake or something, and it's just so nonchalant, like
- 59:10Speaker 1: you said earlier, just so, uh, I'm just here, I'm
- 59:12Speaker 1: doing my job. So they talked to her and she's like,
- 59:16Speaker 1: there's no way a gator could be down there. It
- 59:18Speaker 1: would starve in it within a week, Like there's no sunlight.
- 59:21Speaker 1: It's just no possible way for an alligator to be
- 59:23Speaker 1: down there. And I love that no one is believing
- 59:26Speaker 1: what's going on. Every single person that Madison tries to
- 59:29Speaker 1: tell about this alligator, the chief Kendall, everyone, no one's
- 59:32Speaker 1: believing this shit. And this is probably my favorite part
- 59:36Speaker 1: of the movie because Kemp gets his comeupance. Yes, do
- 59:40Speaker 1: you want to say? What happens?
- 59:41Speaker 2: I honestly I forgot so so you go.
- 59:44Speaker 1: But fuck that guy, Yeah, fuck that guy. So the
- 59:46Speaker 1: reporter Kemp, who's all over Madison about everything he learns
- 59:51Speaker 1: from I can't remember who, but I think one of
- 59:52Speaker 1: the nurses that you know, Madison was telling her about
- 59:56Speaker 1: the alligator. So this motherfucker is like, I'm gonna go
- 59:59Speaker 1: investigate in this sewers with my camera.
- 1:00:01Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's right.
- 1:00:02Speaker 1: Yeah, goes down there like a stupid piece of ship
- 1:00:06Speaker 1: and then it gets attacked almost immediately and dies. And
- 1:00:09Speaker 1: I think that was one of my favorite moments of
- 1:00:12Speaker 1: the movie because he has the camera in his hand
- 1:00:14Speaker 1: and he's getting attacked and he's you know, flashing pictures,
- 1:00:17Speaker 1: and that whole attack scene with the flashing pictures was
- 1:00:20Speaker 1: just such a cool touch.
- 1:00:21Speaker 2: That reminds me a little of the scene in uh
- 1:00:24Speaker 2: Saw No Oh, I was going to go in the
- 1:00:28Speaker 2: first Collector when uh or was it the Collection one
- 1:00:32Speaker 2: of those two to where where like you see you
- 1:00:35Speaker 2: see Arkin walking and they get those flashes and all
- 1:00:37Speaker 2: of a sudden, like you see the Collector getting closer
- 1:00:40Speaker 2: and closer.
- 1:00:41Speaker 1: Oh shit, oh yeah yeah, yeah, I don't.
- 1:00:44Speaker 2: Remember which one it was.
- 1:00:45Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it was the first one though, one
- 1:00:47Speaker 1: of those bitches.
- 1:00:48Speaker 2: But yeah, like that, I love those type of scenes.
- 1:00:50Speaker 2: Were like we're like, you know, every every flash something
- 1:00:53Speaker 2: something news on the screen, like you're like, oh nice,
- 1:00:56Speaker 2: like y when they do that. I mean some people,
- 1:00:57Speaker 2: you know, electic.
- 1:00:59Speaker 1: They can't enjoy it, like we well, yeah, if anyone
- 1:01:01Speaker 1: has a reaction to that. Of course, yeah they can
- 1:01:03Speaker 1: when they.
- 1:01:03Speaker 2: Do that, because it builds the suspense and you're like, ooh,
- 1:01:06Speaker 2: what's gonna happen, Like, oh, there he is, Oh he's
- 1:01:08Speaker 2: a closer.
- 1:01:08Speaker 3: Fu.
- 1:01:09Speaker 1: Yeah. The same thing happens in the first song with.
- 1:01:11Speaker 2: Adam when oh yeah, well yeah but one yeah.
- 1:01:15Speaker 1: So yeah, that was a really cool, really cool scene
- 1:01:17Speaker 1: that they use there. So yeah, Camp, it gets murderlated
- 1:01:20Speaker 1: real quick. And then that's when you know, Madison gets
- 1:01:23Speaker 1: a phone call about how Camp is missing, and then
- 1:01:26Speaker 1: somehow they were able to get his camera, develop the
- 1:01:28Speaker 1: pictures and they show them to you know, they're hoping
- 1:01:32Speaker 1: that Marissa will believe them now because they actually have
- 1:01:34Speaker 1: literal photo evidence of a giant alligator. And then this
- 1:01:39Speaker 1: is when every news station you get like cuts of
- 1:01:41Speaker 1: news stations covering this reporter is dead. You know, we've
- 1:01:44Speaker 1: got these pictures. There's an alligator loose in the in
- 1:01:46Speaker 1: the sewers. So that's when really everyone starts believing, Okay,
- 1:01:51Speaker 1: there's something down there. We have to fucking go and
- 1:01:54Speaker 1: find this thing. And this is when the movie literally
- 1:01:56Speaker 1: just evolves into chaos. You've got swat teams, you've got
- 1:01:59Speaker 1: police officer setting up perimeters with fucking bazooka's assault rifles. Yeah, sandbags,
- 1:02:04Speaker 1: barbed wire. Like every fucking team in the city is
- 1:02:08Speaker 1: going into these major entry points of the sewers trying
- 1:02:10Speaker 1: to find this fucking alligator. And it's crazy because everyone
- 1:02:14Speaker 1: in the sewers too, is making the most noise imagined.
- 1:02:17Speaker 2: Trying to get the alligators attention.
- 1:02:18Speaker 1: We talked about this, We're like, I feel like that
- 1:02:20Speaker 1: would work, but also scare it away, because an alligator
- 1:02:23Speaker 1: is more scared of you than you are of him
- 1:02:25Speaker 1: when you think about it. But to a certain degree.
- 1:02:28Speaker 2: Later on in the movie, you find out when they're
- 1:02:29Speaker 2: just throwing charges in the lake, uh, we find out that,
- 1:02:34Speaker 2: you know, the sound actually attracts the gator. So that's
- 1:02:36Speaker 2: why they're making those sounds, is to try to attract
- 1:02:39Speaker 2: the gator.
- 1:02:39Speaker 1: I know they were trying to attract it, but I
- 1:02:41Speaker 1: feel I just feel like it would push it away
- 1:02:43Speaker 1: because like, that's a lot of loud noises. I don't know,
- 1:02:45Speaker 1: I'm not gonna deal with that shit.
- 1:02:47Speaker 2: What I really like about that scene too, actually is
- 1:02:49Speaker 2: when you find out that uh I already forgot her name,
- 1:02:52Speaker 2: but the red head Marissa. You find out she was
- 1:02:55Speaker 2: the kid with the gator with just a little subtle
- 1:02:58Speaker 2: like ie gator once when the dead flushes.
- 1:03:01Speaker 1: Yeah, because at this point they all they're all setting
- 1:03:03Speaker 1: up like right outside the sewers in the water, and
- 1:03:06Speaker 1: she shows up to try to assist them, and then
- 1:03:09Speaker 1: that's when she mentions what you just said, and you're like, oh,
- 1:03:11Speaker 1: so you're the girl from the beginning of the movie.
- 1:03:13Speaker 2: Which cool, which which you know, makes a lot of
- 1:03:15Speaker 2: sense of why she's so calm, because she's clearly calm
- 1:03:17Speaker 2: when he was at the beginning when he saw the
- 1:03:19Speaker 2: dude get multi.
- 1:03:19Speaker 1: Yeah, gator. So that was a really nice little touch,
- 1:03:22Speaker 1: like a little twist that I never saw coming, nor did.
- 1:03:25Speaker 2: They need to do that, but they gave you the
- 1:03:27Speaker 2: full circle. I'm like, oh, okay.
- 1:03:28Speaker 1: But it makes sense though, because she's you know, she
- 1:03:30Speaker 1: deals with reptiles and snakes and stuff like that. So
- 1:03:32Speaker 1: it was really cool that she obviously had an affinity
- 1:03:35Speaker 1: for like, you know, like reptiles as a kid, grew
- 1:03:38Speaker 1: into a job where she does that now and now
- 1:03:40Speaker 1: she's on the case trying to hunt this gator. Not
- 1:03:42Speaker 1: even and they don't bring it up after that she
- 1:03:44Speaker 1: doesn't know that this is the gator that was flushed
- 1:03:46Speaker 1: down the drain. Yeah, there's no mention of it. It's
- 1:03:48Speaker 1: just funny that you're like, oh, you're the kid from
- 1:03:50Speaker 1: the beginning. So cool. And everyone searches for quite some
- 1:03:55Speaker 1: time down in the sewers. No one can find anything,
- 1:03:58Speaker 1: and they all come back out like the the mainsor
- 1:04:01Speaker 1: entrance and then like, yeah, there's nothing there. So they think,
- 1:04:03Speaker 1: all right, I don't know what's going on. I don't
- 1:04:05Speaker 1: know if there's what's happening, but we can't find anything.
- 1:04:08Speaker 1: And that's when Madison and the Chief leave kind of
- 1:04:10Speaker 1: in like like an annoyance, are like, yeah, we gotta
- 1:04:12Speaker 1: get out of here. There's nothing going on. But this
- 1:04:15Speaker 1: is by far my favorite like just shot of the
- 1:04:18Speaker 1: movie because right as they pass those kids in the
- 1:04:21Speaker 1: street playing baseball, you see this shot of like this
- 1:04:25Speaker 1: kid above a manhole cover and the ground starts to
- 1:04:28Speaker 1: kind of bow up and bow up, so the kid
- 1:04:30Speaker 1: moves and then the fucking alligator just burst through, like
- 1:04:34Speaker 1: fucking Jack Nicholson in the shining through the door. Just
- 1:04:37Speaker 1: here I am. And it was just such a cool
- 1:04:41Speaker 1: shot because that's when we see the cop and this
- 1:04:44Speaker 1: is a weird scene. I don't know if you felt
- 1:04:45Speaker 1: the same way. But the cop speeding down the road
- 1:04:49Speaker 1: almost he narrowly avoids the kid, plows into the car,
- 1:04:54Speaker 1: car gets set on fire, and then he starts to
- 1:04:56Speaker 1: hop out of the cop car and then the gator.
- 1:04:58Speaker 1: That's when the gator comes, And that's our favorite kill
- 1:05:01Speaker 1: horror moment, Like what was he going to? Was he
- 1:05:04Speaker 1: responding to a car? Like why was he flying down
- 1:05:07Speaker 1: the road?
- 1:05:08Speaker 2: Maybe he was responding to that gator.
- 1:05:10Speaker 1: The gator, I guess, yeah, because because they.
- 1:05:12Speaker 2: Weren't far from the like the cops weren't far from
- 1:05:14Speaker 2: the scenes, so maybe once that happened, something like they
- 1:05:16Speaker 2: he heard that he heard like a destruction, like not
- 1:05:19Speaker 2: necessarily the gator, but they heard something like something abnormal.
- 1:05:22Speaker 1: So that's why I guess. So yeah, because he plows
- 1:05:25Speaker 1: into the cars, tries to get out of the car,
- 1:05:27Speaker 1: gator bites his leg off, then fucks off end of
- 1:05:29Speaker 1: the night, which was just awesome. And I think the
- 1:05:32Speaker 1: car he hits like explodes or something says, so catches
- 1:05:37Speaker 1: on fire out I don't fucking know. Uh. And then
- 1:05:40Speaker 1: this is when we see the gator slowly moving into
- 1:05:42Speaker 1: the canal, and Marissa's telling Madison and the Chief like,
- 1:05:45Speaker 1: Gator's gonna look for water. He's expended a lot of energy,
- 1:05:48Speaker 1: he needs to rest, blah blah blah blah blah. And
- 1:05:52Speaker 1: then this is that whole scene where everyone's around that
- 1:05:54Speaker 1: lake and the fucking fucking officers are just throwing grenades
- 1:05:58Speaker 1: to try to bring him to the surface. That doesn't work,
- 1:06:01Speaker 1: and they bring in that fucking alligator expert or whatever,
- 1:06:06Speaker 1: like Colonel Brock, who reminds me of what's his face
- 1:06:09Speaker 1: from Lake Placid? Oscar? What's the guy's name? The he's
- 1:06:15Speaker 1: a Hispanic actor. What's his fucking name from Lake Placid?
- 1:06:20Speaker 3: Oh?
- 1:06:21Speaker 1: What's his name? Hold on, I'm thinking not Oscar, Oliver
- 1:06:25Speaker 1: Oliver Platt. Okay, yeah, it's he's like, he's like that guy.
- 1:06:29Speaker 1: I think he's Hispanic Oliver Plaid.
- 1:06:32Speaker 2: Not Hispanic.
- 1:06:33Speaker 1: I thought he was.
- 1:06:34Speaker 2: I mean, he could be.
- 1:06:34Speaker 1: I have no idea whatever. I might have been mistaken
- 1:06:37Speaker 1: for some reason. I thought he was a Spanic. Anyways,
- 1:06:39Speaker 1: so he reminds me of Oliver Oliver Platt because Oliver
- 1:06:41Speaker 1: Platt and Lake Placid is like, you know, the alligator
- 1:06:43Speaker 1: expert that they come to like save the day or whatever.
- 1:06:47Speaker 1: But he reminds me very much so of him, and
- 1:06:50Speaker 1: he's not in very much of the movie, but I
- 1:06:51Speaker 1: kind of don't. I just don't like Colonel Brock. He's
- 1:06:54Speaker 1: kind of kind of a douchebag. Yeah, that's just my
- 1:06:56Speaker 1: opinion of him, kind of a weirdo, kind of full
- 1:06:58Speaker 1: of himself. But then yeah, this is when okay, and
- 1:07:02Speaker 1: you told me why he got fired, why Madison got fired.
- 1:07:06Speaker 1: But at this point, for some reason, and I guess
- 1:07:08Speaker 1: I missed it, but Madison gets fired from the police
- 1:07:11Speaker 1: station by his chief and the chiefs like, get out
- 1:07:14Speaker 1: of my hands. But it was because you said.
- 1:07:17Speaker 2: So so this, so, so you know, they're obviously uh
- 1:07:20Speaker 2: him and I can't remember her name, Jesus the redhead, Marissa,
- 1:07:25Speaker 2: Marissa Jesus So yeah, Madison, Marissa. They're they're investigating. So
- 1:07:30Speaker 2: he goes back to Slade uh Industries or whatever it's
- 1:07:34Speaker 2: called to talk to that.
- 1:07:35Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's like, yes, Slade. I think it's
- 1:07:36Speaker 1: Slade Industries or pharmaceutical.
- 1:07:38Speaker 2: So and so he says something in particular that you know,
- 1:07:43Speaker 2: triggers more of a response than than anything else. And
- 1:07:46Speaker 2: then the researcher goes straight to Slade. The next scene
- 1:07:51Speaker 2: and you see Slade on the phone with somebody you
- 1:07:52Speaker 2: don't know who saying like we have a problem or something.
- 1:07:56Speaker 2: And then the next scene is the chief telling Madison
- 1:07:58Speaker 2: he's fired his hands. So it's a very subtle thing.
- 1:08:01Speaker 2: But like because he rocked the boat or like shook
- 1:08:04Speaker 2: the tree, whatever you want to go it don't rock
- 1:08:05Speaker 2: the boat. But basically, you know, he was just doing
- 1:08:08Speaker 2: his job when he pushed too far to you know,
- 1:08:11Speaker 2: to somebody who's important.
- 1:08:13Speaker 1: Which is interesting because that means to me that the
- 1:08:17Speaker 1: Slade Industries or whatever has some sort of hold on
- 1:08:20Speaker 1: the police chief and that whole establishment.
- 1:08:23Speaker 2: I wouldn't as to say the police chief, but I'd
- 1:08:25Speaker 2: say I'd say, I'd say, you know, the police because
- 1:08:30Speaker 2: the chief did say he was out of his hands.
- 1:08:31Speaker 2: Because if because if if he was and on it,
- 1:08:34Speaker 2: he wouldn't mentioned I couldn't do anything about it. He
- 1:08:37Speaker 2: would he would just be like this is how it is,
- 1:08:39Speaker 2: Like he would he would make it look like he
- 1:08:40Speaker 2: was guilty, yeah, but he wasn't. He's like this, this
- 1:08:42Speaker 2: is how it's.
- 1:08:43Speaker 1: Going to be.
- 1:08:43Speaker 2: Out of my hands. I mean, and I mean he
- 1:08:46Speaker 2: knew he knew Medisine wasn't gonna stop doing what he
- 1:08:48Speaker 2: was doing, of course not. Yeah, but he's still he
- 1:08:50Speaker 2: hears his hands were tied because his higher ups told him.
- 1:08:53Speaker 1: So yeah, and that's where we'll leave it once he
- 1:08:55Speaker 1: gets fired, because yeah, then eventually, you know, Madison kind
- 1:08:58Speaker 1: of goes rogue, so he pairs up with Marissa. Yeah.
- 1:09:01Speaker 2: So it does kind of seem that Slate Industries or
- 1:09:04Speaker 2: whatever is, you know, the big corrupt place of the like.
- 1:09:09Speaker 1: It seems like they have a foothold over like the
- 1:09:11Speaker 1: entire community somewhere. Yes, they've they've got some sway somehow
- 1:09:15Speaker 1: because of what they do. Yeah. So but yeah, this
- 1:09:18Speaker 1: movie ends in a very explosive way, no pun intended,
- 1:09:22Speaker 1: but absolutely at the same time, and you get az
- 1:09:25Speaker 1: you actually get a crazy scene at a wedding to
- 1:09:28Speaker 1: once the way. Yeah, so good this movie. Seriously, I
- 1:09:31Speaker 1: knew it was going to be good, but I didn't
- 1:09:33Speaker 1: I didn't think I would expect to like it as
- 1:09:34Speaker 1: much as I did. To my knowledge, there's no mid
- 1:09:38Speaker 1: or post credit scene. There's not some good taglines, though
- 1:09:43Speaker 1: I picked out four from like the eight that there was,
- 1:09:45Speaker 1: So we've got beneath those man holes, a man eaters waiting.
- 1:09:48Speaker 1: He's up from the sewers and nobody's safe. At first,
- 1:09:52Speaker 1: no one believed, but now no one will ever forget that.
- 1:09:55Speaker 1: That's probably the best one. And then the silliest one.
- 1:09:58Speaker 1: It's thirty six feet long ways two two thousand pounds,
- 1:10:00Speaker 1: lives fifty feet below the city. No one knows it's
- 1:10:04Speaker 1: down there except the people it eats. Boom love it.
- 1:10:09Speaker 1: So let's get into some trivia real quick here. So Ramone,
- 1:10:13Speaker 1: as the Gators name, was the oft malfunctioning animatronic alligator
- 1:10:17Speaker 1: used in the film was later donated to the Florida
- 1:10:20Speaker 1: Gators as a team mascot. Ramone made several appearances before
- 1:10:24Speaker 1: games and during halftime. Nice. So that's fucking cool. The
- 1:10:28Speaker 1: shot of the Swat team emerging from the sewers looks
- 1:10:30Speaker 1: so real that people actually thought there were terrorists and
- 1:10:33Speaker 1: some called the police, which makes sense because yeah, that
- 1:10:36Speaker 1: did look convincing. Brian Cranston actually worked on the movie
- 1:10:41Speaker 1: as a production assistant for the special effects department, and
- 1:10:44Speaker 1: there's a very very cool featurette with him and it's
- 1:10:50Speaker 1: only him, yeah, talking to the camera about his time
- 1:10:53Speaker 1: on set, and it is. We watched that after we
- 1:10:55Speaker 1: watched the movie for the first time, because I obviously
- 1:10:58Speaker 1: rewatched it today because I love this movie so much,
- 1:11:01Speaker 1: and it was it was a very interesting little like
- 1:11:03Speaker 1: you know, like mini yeah, mini featurette. It was so cool.
- 1:11:06Speaker 1: So I suggest, you know, obviously getting the four K
- 1:11:09Speaker 1: and so you can actually so you can watch this
- 1:11:11Speaker 1: as well.
- 1:11:11Speaker 2: But it was that's funny because it's actually on the
- 1:11:13Speaker 2: Blu ray.
- 1:11:13Speaker 1: Well, I'm just saying to get the h get the
- 1:11:15Speaker 1: screen factory, because that's the only way you're gonna see
- 1:11:17Speaker 1: the new yeah, the new little uh you know, featurette.
- 1:11:20Speaker 1: So that was extremely cool. Just like you said earlier,
- 1:11:23Speaker 1: this film was inspired by Jaws, and like that film,
- 1:11:26Speaker 1: the mechanical villain quote unquote often malfunction, much like Steven
- 1:11:30Speaker 1: Spielberg had to do on Jaws. Lewis t either shot
- 1:11:33Speaker 1: around the alligator to build suspense or shot a regular
- 1:11:36Speaker 1: alligator on miniature sets, which is plainly obvious in some shots. Yep, yes,
- 1:11:40Speaker 1: there was a couple of shots. Thro I was like,
- 1:11:41Speaker 1: all right, yes, makes sense.
- 1:11:43Speaker 3: Uh.
- 1:11:44Speaker 1: And then last but not least, Joe Dante was offered
- 1:11:46Speaker 1: the job of director but turned it down, And that's
- 1:11:48Speaker 1: that's funny because was it the writer. Yeah, the writer
- 1:11:54Speaker 1: John Sales or Solas, whatever his name is, you know,
- 1:11:57Speaker 1: worked on Piranha and The Howling, which again I know
- 1:12:01Speaker 1: Piranha was Joe Dante, and I think Howling is as well,
- 1:12:05Speaker 1: So that's kind of interesting. A couple of goofs here
- 1:12:09Speaker 1: at the wedding, when Slade and the mayor run to
- 1:12:11Speaker 1: the limousine to get away from the alligator, the driver
- 1:12:13Speaker 1: is standing by the door as if everything is normal,
- 1:12:16Speaker 1: despite everyone panicking around him. And then I actually noticed
- 1:12:21Speaker 1: this one too. In the first shot of the alligator's
- 1:12:23Speaker 1: eyes at the very beginning of the movie, the entire
- 1:12:26Speaker 1: crew is reflected. You can see the whole crew filming
- 1:12:29Speaker 1: the gator. I thought that was pretty interesting. Got a
- 1:12:33Speaker 1: six point zero out of ten on IMDb, and then
- 1:12:37Speaker 1: it has a three point three out of five on Letterboxed.
- 1:12:41Speaker 1: Uh yeah, three point three out of five. I gave
- 1:12:43Speaker 1: this a four and a half. Same. It was probably
- 1:12:46Speaker 1: the easiest four and a half I think I've ever
- 1:12:48Speaker 1: given the movie. It was fucking brilliant for a nineteen
- 1:12:51Speaker 1: eighties movie. Literally, nineteen eighty fucking brilliant movie. Yeah, I
- 1:12:57Speaker 1: love every second of this movie. It's not watered down,
- 1:13:00Speaker 1: it's not too long. If anything, I probably could have
- 1:13:02Speaker 1: used a couple more minutes from it, you know what
- 1:13:04Speaker 1: I mean. But at it, like you know, at an
- 1:13:06Speaker 1: hour and a half, perfect runtime, great special effects, the
- 1:13:10Speaker 1: four K looks beautiful, great you know, performances all around
- 1:13:14Speaker 1: from every single actor, and it was just it's just
- 1:13:16Speaker 1: a lot of fun.
- 1:13:17Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:13:18Speaker 1: I know, I know the second one's not nearly as
- 1:13:20Speaker 1: good because it doesn't have nearly as good of ratings,
- 1:13:22Speaker 1: but I am still excited to watch it just to
- 1:13:24Speaker 1: see how silly and goofy it is. But we can't
- 1:13:26Speaker 1: recommend this movie enough. Watch it however you want. It
- 1:13:30Speaker 1: doesn't matter. But at the end of the day, just
- 1:13:32Speaker 1: watch this movie. It's so much fun because we've explained
- 1:13:35Speaker 1: a lot of it, but there's it's still the ending.
- 1:13:37Speaker 1: The last thirty minutes of this movie is just utter chaos. Yeah.
- 1:13:40Speaker 1: Once the alligator leaves the sewers, it just everything turns
- 1:13:43Speaker 1: into chaos. So yeah, that is alligated from nineteen eighty
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- 1:14:17Speaker 1: Corey will be back next week doing a movie that
- 1:14:19Speaker 1: I don't want to say, because again I don't like
- 1:14:21Speaker 1: giving away the movies. But it's gonna be a fun topic.
- 1:14:23Speaker 1: I'm very excited to do this. Uh So, until then, guys,
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