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Happy Hour #103: The Cheating Curve (SATC S2. Ep 6) · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to stephone
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Speaker 1: are back, y'all, were finally back to do another episode
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Speaker 1: of live watching, live, streaming, recording. What is it? What
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Speaker 1: is this reacting? I guess viewing one of those things.
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Speaker 1: I mean currently this is as being live because we're
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Speaker 1: here anyway while you're listening, we're back to viewing and
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Speaker 1: watching Sex and the City again. Annie coming into seeing
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Speaker 1: these episodes for the first time. That's part of the
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Speaker 1: delight of this because I did love and I do
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Speaker 1: love Sex in the City. It meant a lot to
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Speaker 1: me in my early twenties mid twenties. Of course it
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Speaker 1: was already out but watching it for myself and trying
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Speaker 1: to be one of those city girls, and I was not.
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Speaker 1: I was not. Just Sten. We've put that out there,
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Speaker 1: but welcome back, and we are doing it as a
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Speaker 1: part of our happy hour as we do so before
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Speaker 1: we start, Yes, we are not currently sponsored by whatever
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Speaker 1: we're talking about as our beverages. That might change because
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Speaker 1: things change and as change, and it's according to when
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Speaker 1: you listen to this, as we know, and if you
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Speaker 1: are drinking or whatever you're partaking in, do it responsibly.
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Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Be responsible? Um Anny, what
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Speaker 1: you sipping on? Well, I'm drinking my red wine number
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Speaker 1: box and uh we did record this this episode the
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Speaker 1: day after our last happy hour that's already out where
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Speaker 1: you were like, I'm sending you that link to the
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Speaker 1: red red Wine song and I did listen to it,
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Speaker 1: and I feel complete in some ways, So thank you
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Speaker 1: for that. You will. But yeah, I'm had time to
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Speaker 1: go helped and get anything else. I really pressed how
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Speaker 1: long this box wine has lasted? Well, there might have
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Speaker 1: been two bucks to Wineckery Rickery. I'm gonna be honest.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna start the new year honest. Okay, Okay, I
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Speaker 1: like it. Yes, Well, I am sipping on an actual
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Speaker 1: kind of like a lesser of I guess recipe for
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Speaker 1: kind of like a Cosmo, but not really a Cosmo.
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Speaker 1: We actually ended up getting ginger well with cranberry um,
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Speaker 1: the fancy kind, and I'm like, oh, I want to
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Speaker 1: drink that, and so I added some gin. My partner
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Speaker 1: who's like, I want to add this, added some bidders
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Speaker 1: to it. So I feel like it's an homage, but
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Speaker 1: it's definitely um, the lesser version of a Cosmo. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you know, kind there, but it's very tasty. Just so
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Speaker 1: you know, I'm delighted by it. So that is what
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Speaker 1: I am sitting on. But yes, we are back to
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Speaker 1: viewing Sex in the City, and y'all we are still
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Speaker 1: doing the audience participation. We've been seizing it. I swear
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Speaker 1: we're not trying to lead you on or guest like you.
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Speaker 1: As we have said at the end of this year
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Speaker 1: at the beginning of this year is always chaotic, uh,
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Speaker 1: and I'm sure it is for y'all as well. So
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Speaker 1: we've kind of rearranged some things. So for the finality,
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Speaker 1: we would do want to have a listener participation and
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Speaker 1: we've got your names if you already added it. If
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Speaker 1: you haven't and you're interested, you don't even have to
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Speaker 1: know anything about Sex in the City. Just join us.
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Speaker 1: We just have a good time. We write any we do.
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Speaker 1: And honestly, everybody who's entered, I'm like, maybe we should
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Speaker 1: just have them all on eventually. Maybe maybe we should
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Speaker 1: just one and one and one. People are like, I'm down,
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Speaker 1: let's do this. I'm down. Several people are I love
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Speaker 1: this episode. I love it so all of you all
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Speaker 1: die hard. I'm thank you for sticking with us. And
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Speaker 1: we're further behind than I thought. Annie. I thought we
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Speaker 1: were really close to the finale and we are not. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: we are. We are quite a bit of ways. Um.
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Speaker 1: A lot of times we do these in person and
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Speaker 1: bulk this one we're kind of we're doing differently, and
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Speaker 1: we're doing via the magic of the internet. So if
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Speaker 1: it's got to be interesting, Lag, that's why, you know. Um,
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Speaker 1: But I think because of that, when we do them,
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Speaker 1: it feels like we've done like seventeen even though we
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Speaker 1: only did three. Yeah, so yeah, we're a bit further
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Speaker 1: back than we thought we were. Several times there are
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Speaker 1: ninety four episodes to go, and well not to go
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Speaker 1: in total, and some yes yes, and apparently the second
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Speaker 1: season is coming around and just like that, so oh
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Speaker 1: my god, but yes, I digress. Let's get into it
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Speaker 1: as we do, Annie, can you it's been so long.
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Speaker 1: Can you do a summary of the past episodes of
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Speaker 1: season two? I will give it a shot shot. Okay,
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Speaker 1: So a lot of the themes in this season have
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Speaker 1: been Gary and Biggs broke up at the end of
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Speaker 1: season one, and so a lot of it has been
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Speaker 1: her navigating newly being single but still kind of having
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Speaker 1: feelings for this person and running into him and trying
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Speaker 1: to deal with what that is. I know, we have
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Speaker 1: the funeral episode recently, I think that was the last one,
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Speaker 1: and there was discussion around like kind of the social
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Speaker 1: scene and and funeral fashion and Charlotte being falling for
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Speaker 1: this guy and then realizing he kind of uses his
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Speaker 1: widow to get women, or that's what it's seemed like
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Speaker 1: the implication. Yeah, so I feel like there's been a
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Speaker 1: lot of Samantha getting kind of blocked out of the
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Speaker 1: social scene, and then I guess who it was leading
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Speaker 1: Ardo to Capiro was supposed to be there but it wasn't.
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Speaker 1: And then this is the season where Miranda kept getting
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Speaker 1: questioned about like, oh, you're by yourself. Oh you're trying
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Speaker 1: to get a place by yourself. What's going on here?
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Speaker 1: Just you know, continuing with the questions that a lot
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Speaker 1: of us can relate to in one way or the
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Speaker 1: other of relationships and what they mean or what does
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Speaker 1: it mean if you don't have relationship and how do
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Speaker 1: people view you? Yeah, yeah, very good. I like it
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Speaker 1: very good. All right, now I'm going to give you
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Speaker 1: the title and to try to make a guess on
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Speaker 1: what you think this episode is about, as we do,
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Speaker 1: and then I will rate you with nonsensical ratings at
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Speaker 1: the end. Maybe a great maybe number, maybe stars. I
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Speaker 1: don't know. So the title of this episode is the
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Speaker 1: Cheating Curve. Okay, well, I feel like every time I
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Speaker 1: do this, I don't really have any specifics, but I
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Speaker 1: would say, um that it's like kind of talking about
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Speaker 1: the versions of cheating, like which is worse, Like cheating
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Speaker 1: after you've been dating, like only for a long time
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Speaker 1: and maybe the other person doesn't view that is cheating
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Speaker 1: the situation, cheating when you've been in a long term relationship,
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Speaker 1: which is I guess gradations of which is worse in
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Speaker 1: cheating and what what some people define is cheating on
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Speaker 1: what some others might not define as cheating. M M.
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Speaker 1: And they go to a club, because I say that
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Speaker 1: every time they go to the club, Okay, I feel
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Speaker 1: like I've like salvaged getting nothing right when they go
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Speaker 1: to a clus that one they go to a club
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Speaker 1: and they go out and drink. Yeah, that's a nice prediction.
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Speaker 1: All right, let's begin any how about close you got
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Speaker 1: Let's do it or didn't get With Samantha, Miranda and
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Speaker 1: Charlotte all suitably occupied, I figured there was no better
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Speaker 1: time to make my escape. Carrie's being shady and runs away.
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Speaker 1: Did she lie? But I didn't dare tell any of
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Speaker 1: my friends where I was going, Oh, don't do plenty
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Speaker 1: to me. Oh yeah, she's being sexy and in the picture,
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Speaker 1: oh don't do it. You know they had that ending
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Speaker 1: the ball that damn Bolden. The bowling is what gets you.
9:03
Speaker 1: It gets you every time. Watch out, excuse me, Rowles.
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Speaker 1: We're just kissing. So Charlotte's that's the gas lighting right there.
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Speaker 1: We're like, we're just kissing. I'll see you in there
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Speaker 1: as it's not a big deal. Yeah, she walked in
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Speaker 1: on him with another woman kissing, and he said, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'm just kissing whatever, just kissing. Uh so I was
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Speaker 1: kind of right kissing cheating. Correct, Men's cheat for the
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Speaker 1: same reason the dogs licked their balls, because they can't.
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Speaker 1: Men cheat for the same reason as dogs licked their balls.
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Speaker 1: Such a line, and it's such a line, Well that
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Speaker 1: sounds very empowering that you're forgetting one important detail. God,
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Speaker 1: I hope so women cheat. Yeah, it is completely different
10:02
Speaker 1: because we don't go women cheat, it's completely different. I
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Speaker 1: don't think that's completely different. But also, is there an
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Speaker 1: implication when women cheat versus when men cheat, Like, is
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Speaker 1: there two different standards of acceptance slash non acceptance slash.
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Speaker 1: One's ah and the other one is the one woman?
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Speaker 1: What did the wife do or whomember the cheating? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: we've talked about that before, asked for the men or
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Speaker 1: men they're the victims, right are It's in their nature
10:29
Speaker 1: just like this conversation. Yeah, I can't help it. The
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Speaker 1: fact is, the act of cheating is defined by the
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Speaker 1: act of getting caught. One doesn't exist without the other.
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Speaker 1: It's defined by the act of getting caught. Samantha says,
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Speaker 1: it's not me characters, it's the same question. If you
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Speaker 1: hear a treat fall in the woods, the same thing,
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Speaker 1: that's the same question, right. Yeah, that's an interesting mind
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Speaker 1: set because that implies like, if you're happy and they're cheating,
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Speaker 1: then it doesn't matter, right, But I feel like there's
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Speaker 1: still the like there's still lying involved in that, a
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Speaker 1: lot of lying, and there was mistrust and there is
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Speaker 1: a break of commitment and all of that. Yeah, it's
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Speaker 1: like that's the difference between like a consensual polyamorous relationship
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Speaker 1: versus Right, so how do you feel? Oh, you got
11:29
Speaker 1: me all wet? I mean sweaty. I'm mean sweaty. That's
11:36
Speaker 1: such an odd caricature, Like it's a cliche hooking up
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Speaker 1: at the gym with your trainer, right, Yeah, Yeah, it's
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Speaker 1: one of those professions where it is it can be
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Speaker 1: awkward and kind of like somebody's touching your body. Because
11:51
Speaker 1: in that case as a personal trainer, I don't know,
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Speaker 1: it's just odd. Does that really need to be on?
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Speaker 1: Just really? Turns are not enough? Would you be okay
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Speaker 1: with your partner needing to have porn on during your
12:17
Speaker 1: intimate moment? Not all the time? I think we could
12:21
Speaker 1: discuss it, uh, but you would need like the fact
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Speaker 1: that he sprung it on her. I would not be
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Speaker 1: cool with that, especially depending on what it is, because
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Speaker 1: a lot of them is not great for women, right,
12:32
Speaker 1: and like what it entails, like I would be open
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Speaker 1: to it every now and then, Right, I think that's
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Speaker 1: the answer. Was like it could be an interesting way
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Speaker 1: of shaking things up and doing things and yeah, is inappropriate.
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Speaker 1: Of course we've talked about it with bridget even and
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Speaker 1: we've talked about it about the layer of whether or
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Speaker 1: not this porn is actually consensual, is it safe, the
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Speaker 1: level of all of that and what's being allowed and
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Speaker 1: was for the what may be revenge porn? Like like,
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Speaker 1: there's so much to that that we don't know. It
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Speaker 1: does feel really sticky. Yeah, oh sorry, sorry, sorry accidental.
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Speaker 1: I felt horrible. I had never lied to Miranda before,
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Speaker 1: but I was embarrassed to admit that I was seeing
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Speaker 1: big again. Do you feel about friends lying to you?
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Speaker 1: Not great? I have an example where I was like,
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Speaker 1: I know you're lying to me. I'm not gonna confront
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Speaker 1: you about it was about a guy, but I'm gonna
13:34
Speaker 1: give you some time to like come to terms and
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Speaker 1: after a certain time has passed, and there was nothing
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Speaker 1: really wrong with that relationship as far as I know,
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Speaker 1: I just didn't tell me about it. Interesting. Yeah, so
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Speaker 1: I'm like, I try to be forgiving in like early stages,
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Speaker 1: but it gets like a long time and right, yep,
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Speaker 1: and there better be a conversation about it later. Friendships, Okay,
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Speaker 1: Sam is hooking up with the gym guy who actually
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Speaker 1: said he's never hooked up with anybody before. Just remember
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Speaker 1: that and then to Samantha surprise and delight. So I
14:18
Speaker 1: kept right on shaving. And apparently he likes to shave
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Speaker 1: women's legs. I've never met anyone that wanted to do that. Also,
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Speaker 1: that would worry me too, Vies, that's not where it goes.
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Speaker 1: But yes, sure, I Look, we've got this physical, chemical
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Speaker 1: kind of connection that's hard to shake. So lay off. Okay,
14:49
Speaker 1: So now it's going to be a casual sex thing. Baby,
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Speaker 1: Well that's gonna work. Even I am not that naive,
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Speaker 1: not I'm really not the most sy movie anymore. She
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Speaker 1: doesn't like being confronted Harry Harry kind of So who
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Speaker 1: is the villain in the scenario? Is it the friends
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Speaker 1: or is it Carrie. There's a lot of those questions
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Speaker 1: up in the air, like was it always carry being
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Speaker 1: the villain? You know? I think that then I get
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Speaker 1: it on both sides a little. I think that it's
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Speaker 1: fair that they're like he was a jerk to you,
15:22
Speaker 1: why are you with him? And her kind of being like, oh,
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Speaker 1: it's chemical, and then filling the fences of them walking away, right,
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Speaker 1: But I can get her being carried knowing that that's
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Speaker 1: the response, right. I mean, we like we came to
15:38
Speaker 1: an agreement with several of the friends that were close
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Speaker 1: to if you have a concern about the person's partner,
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Speaker 1: you have one opportunity to let them know, and then
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Speaker 1: you gotta you accept and support. Like that was kind
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Speaker 1: of like, just make sure they know, but if you
15:52
Speaker 1: push it, you're gonna push them away and put them
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Speaker 1: in the situation. So you get the chance, but taking
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Speaker 1: the chance and moving on. It's an odd thing, but
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Speaker 1: I'm like, at least we know the type of thing.
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Speaker 1: Like I said, I actually recently had a conversation like this.
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Speaker 1: I wasn't really involved, but some of my other friends were,
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Speaker 1: and I watched it at play out and the friend
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Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I know it's not great that he
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Speaker 1: does this and this and this, but I like him.
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Speaker 1: And then we were all kind of like, but you
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Speaker 1: just said it's not great. Yeah, yeah, you just told us. Why, Well,
16:45
Speaker 1: there it is. You get two and a half stars
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Speaker 1: before yeah yeah, yeah yeah, because he definitely you definitely
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Speaker 1: got some some of that in I know that we didn't.
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Speaker 1: You didn't, in fact, her in the friendship cheating, And
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Speaker 1: that's a good conversation to off because is it cheating
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Speaker 1: to sneak around and not tell your friends about the relationship,
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Speaker 1: especially when it was an ex that no one likes,
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Speaker 1: right right. The cheating with the porn is that cheating
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Speaker 1: because there have been conversations of women saying that they
17:18
Speaker 1: felt like that was cheating someone who watches porn a lot. Yeah,
17:22
Speaker 1: I mean that's the thing the d TR like, um
17:26
Speaker 1: having that communication and sometimes, honestly, you figure those things
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Speaker 1: out through arguments, are through those things because you don't
17:35
Speaker 1: think to talk about them. But it is true that, um,
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Speaker 1: it's important to have those conversation if you think this
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Speaker 1: is going to be a serious thing, or if it's
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Speaker 1: something important to you. Hey, I realized that this, I'm
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Speaker 1: not comfortable with this or whatever it is. Those conversations
17:51
Speaker 1: are really key. Yeah, we heart communications here. But then
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Speaker 1: there's the other part with Charlotte hanging with the power lesbians,
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Speaker 1: and that coming back to the conversation is what are
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Speaker 1: the boundaries that assists straight woman should have or should
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Speaker 1: be required to have when it comes to lesbian relationships
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Speaker 1: and friendships. Yeah, I mean, like you said, I think
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Speaker 1: we should come back and talk about that. It's so
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Speaker 1: funny to me every time we watch one of these
18:21
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, Wow. I could talk about this forever,
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Speaker 1: because I know I have said in previous episodes kind
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Speaker 1: of what Charlotte said, I hope in a much less
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Speaker 1: offensive way. But like, I feel safer with women, but
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Speaker 1: I have dated women, but that is a part of it.
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Speaker 1: It's like, oh, all of this, like male gaze or
18:38
Speaker 1: male expectations, all that stuff is removed. Um. And that's
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Speaker 1: not to say that lesbian, queer whatever relationships are perfect
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Speaker 1: by any means, but I've expressed that too, But it's
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Speaker 1: not like it's not like I was like a straight
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Speaker 1: woman going in like I just get handlmen anymore, which
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Speaker 1: is kind of what she did, Yeah, which I know
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Speaker 1: is kind of a joke and I understand it, but
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Speaker 1: like actually doing it, it's a conversation we need to have,
19:08
Speaker 1: and I know that's sort of I feel like there's
19:10
Speaker 1: a similar dynamic with the you know, gay best friend
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Speaker 1: male Russian trope. With women, it's like you feel like, oh,
19:17
Speaker 1: there's no sexual tension, but I still have like this
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Speaker 1: sort of male presence. And I also would say, and
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Speaker 1: this might be just anecdotal, but I feel like when
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Speaker 1: straight women, I don't know, I don't want to I
19:32
Speaker 1: feel like people feel more comfortable to touch like gay
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Speaker 1: men are gay women in those spaces than it's like acceptable,
19:40
Speaker 1: like even if it's just like kind of a hand
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Speaker 1: on the shoulder or whatever, you know, right, consent always
19:47
Speaker 1: just right. So yeah, yeah. And then again part of
19:51
Speaker 1: the episode that we want to talk about and revisit
19:53
Speaker 1: as straight says people in gay safe spaces, which is
19:57
Speaker 1: not to say that it's not okay for them and
20:00
Speaker 1: it's not welcoming. It typically is, but like having like
20:03
Speaker 1: that conversation of uh, when a bachelorette party goes to
20:06
Speaker 1: a gage ship club, Um, what is it? And then
20:09
Speaker 1: the party being too wild and think they have the
20:11
Speaker 1: privilege to touch up on people and get up on
20:13
Speaker 1: stage on people, um, and then pretty much goes to
20:15
Speaker 1: the same if women visit uh women's shop clubs, and
20:19
Speaker 1: they do that too because they're like, no, no, I'm
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Speaker 1: like gay, It's fine type of conversation uh. And then
20:25
Speaker 1: overtaking that space and then taking away from safe spaces
20:29
Speaker 1: and then the queer bars where the queer people going
20:31
Speaker 1: to meet other queer people and then being slapped in
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Speaker 1: the face with them saying oh I'm straight, um, and
20:37
Speaker 1: feeling like you're in unsafe places where you're traumatized by
20:41
Speaker 1: being rejected as not a part of that society type
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Speaker 1: of thing. So there's a lot of conversations and that
20:46
Speaker 1: of course this was all jokey and fun and the
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Speaker 1: like the power of lesbians were the one power and
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Speaker 1: like had you know, had their own crew, which is amazing.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, it does bringing to the bigger scope of
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Speaker 1: the let's talk about this. Let's talk about why this
21:02
Speaker 1: becomes problematic and this becomes an issue, and how we
21:05
Speaker 1: should be aware of that and that, um when just
21:09
Speaker 1: because we want to do something, and especially if you're
21:12
Speaker 1: doing it as like I want to go to see
21:14
Speaker 1: something novel, right, it is really offensive. Yeah. Yeah, I
21:20
Speaker 1: think there's a lot too to revisit there, because I mean,
21:28
Speaker 1: it's if you are aware of those things and you're
21:30
Speaker 1: very cognizant, that's great, but it is I mean, even
21:33
Speaker 1: if it's like just the you know, you thought, hey,
21:37
Speaker 1: everybody here is queer, and I don't have to worry
21:39
Speaker 1: that like I'll be they'll be like, oh no, I'm straight,
21:42
Speaker 1: because it's hard to find other queer people sometimes all
21:45
Speaker 1: the time. So you know, I definitely that's something we
21:49
Speaker 1: should return to, and I think also there's been kind
21:53
Speaker 1: of a people using like saying like, oh, I'm kind
21:58
Speaker 1: of queer because I had this one experienced one. Right,
22:01
Speaker 1: I'm not like, I'm not judging anybody experiences change, but
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Speaker 1: some people use that in a way that I'm like,
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Speaker 1: you should not, right. There's definitely moments of like, are
22:11
Speaker 1: you doing this because you want to be seen as
22:13
Speaker 1: this and you want along in this, but you actually
22:16
Speaker 1: don't because like and not to judge because I don't
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Speaker 1: know the individual. And I will respect anyone who says that,
22:23
Speaker 1: who comes out and says whatever, and I'm like, okay,
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Speaker 1: cool for myself, even though I have conversations like this
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Speaker 1: person is super attractive, this woman is super like whatever,
22:32
Speaker 1: and I'm like, man, holy like all these things, and
22:34
Speaker 1: I do I generally compliment women more than I do men. Again,
22:38
Speaker 1: kind of that safety. Maybe I don't know um and
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Speaker 1: genuinely appreciate all of that aesthetic, but I still would
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Speaker 1: identify a straight because like, when it comes to relationships,
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Speaker 1: not because I've not had one, it's just not something
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Speaker 1: that comes to my mind to to have one, as
22:54
Speaker 1: if like that's what I'm interested in. Who knows that
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Speaker 1: might change when I'm mean a type of person, a
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Speaker 1: specific person that I'm attracted to. But like at this point,
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Speaker 1: I'm like, I think it's a little showy, like a
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Speaker 1: little um performative slash like attention sinking essentially because like
23:11
Speaker 1: you want to add one more thing to yourself and
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Speaker 1: and for those who are truly a part of that community,
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Speaker 1: is a slap in the face because they've had to
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Speaker 1: fight to get to that point, you know what I mean,
23:20
Speaker 1: Like that's um and to be to come out even um,
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Speaker 1: whether it is being bisexual, whether it is being a sexual,
23:27
Speaker 1: like all of these things are a thing that they
23:30
Speaker 1: had to fight their own battles for their their demons
23:34
Speaker 1: of uh accepting themselves and not talking about the even
23:39
Speaker 1: like outside world of it. That it feels like it
23:42
Speaker 1: would be a slap in the face to say, well,
23:45
Speaker 1: I think this woman when WO wants to attract us,
23:47
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say I'm whatever. Um, that seems really
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Speaker 1: offensive to right, And this is a very nuanced conversation
23:54
Speaker 1: because you never want to be like, well you are
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Speaker 1: not queer, and that there are issues of that within
24:02
Speaker 1: the queer community, right of like, oh I don't feel
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Speaker 1: comfortable saying I'm queer because I'm afraid that I will
24:08
Speaker 1: be judged within the community. But specifically kind of what
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Speaker 1: Charlotte was doing is what we're talking about, like oh,
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Speaker 1: well I'm not, but I feel like I am because
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Speaker 1: I like you all as friends or like that kind
24:21
Speaker 1: of thing. Or we've even seen politicians recently like be like,
24:25
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I'm queer and that people are like are you,
24:27
Speaker 1: But he's like that they just want the like attention
24:33
Speaker 1: for it, And that's again we I would never want
24:36
Speaker 1: to denigrate someone else's experience because I think there's plenty.
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Speaker 1: I know there's plenty of people who are queer and
24:43
Speaker 1: never been in a relationship one way or the other.
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Speaker 1: Who knows, but no, as they identify, and I absolutely
24:50
Speaker 1: applaud that. And I have nothing to say to you know,
24:53
Speaker 1: take away from that. But for you know, any of
24:56
Speaker 1: the Sanders. We know there are bad players in all
25:00
Speaker 1: of these conversations, unfortunately, and that's what we have to
25:05
Speaker 1: be aware of. Yeah, I mean it's a huge conversation. Um,
25:11
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25:13
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25:48
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25:50
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