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- 0:00Hello there, welcome back to
- 0:01Hydroponics Daily, your go-to podcast for everything soilless cultivation.
- 0:06I'm your host, Dr. Russell Sharp, and I am the founder of Utrema Limited,
- 0:10and we make premium fertilisers, novel biostimulants, and organic biopesticides.
- 0:17And I've been doing this for a number of years, almost decades,
- 0:21and so I know a lot about chemical formulations and organic product formulations.
- 0:25And one of the things that always surprises me is the use of non-few food-grade
- 0:30preservatives in fertilizer products.
- 0:32I think that people should be aware of this because you are not necessarily
- 0:37eating fertilizer, but you are putting them on plants and plants can take those
- 0:42up and come into contact with them.
- 0:44And if you're spraying them as foliar products, then they are going onto the
- 0:48produce that is going to be ate or smoked or drunk or things like this.
- 0:52So I think growers should be aware of and look at the preservatives that are in the products.
- 0:57It might be listed on the back of the label if you're in North America or
- 1:00it will be listed in the safety data sheet and if it's one
- 1:03of the terrible products that well not terrible if it's
- 1:05one of the products I'm mentioning today then you need to be aware of it some
- 1:09of them are terrible products others are I would use with caution and sparingly
- 1:15so at Utrema we have this philosophy that we only use food grade preservatives
- 1:20so that we know for two reasons really so that you can be.
- 1:24Assured that the product is safe when it's
- 1:27put on the crop and you eat the crop and the other reason is that we
- 1:30don't want too much microbial preservation in
- 1:33our products because when we add our fertilizers to the
- 1:36grow media we do want beneficial microbes to
- 1:40be able to grow so if you have a really strong and really high concentration
- 1:44of preservatives then you will wipe your beneficials out as well as the the
- 1:49microbes you don't want now preservatives need to be added to most fertilizer
- 1:53products because you need to stop the microbes from eating the product in the bottle.
- 1:58So if it contains any sort of organic matter, sort of like a plant extract or
- 2:02things like this, then you need to add a preservative just like you would in a processed food.
- 2:08Now there are preservatives and there are preservatives. So
- 2:11we use food grade preservatives at Utrema and we
- 2:14think that some of the really bad ones
- 2:17are used because people are cutting corners to reduce
- 2:20costs and also because they just don't know about what's
- 2:23the best option for formulating the product so i've
- 2:26got about six or seven products that
- 2:29i want to go through and i think you should be looking out for these on the safety data
- 2:32sheets or on the labels and just questioning where they
- 2:35are used and whether it's the right preservative to use or whether
- 2:38you should look for an alternative such as gold leaf or
- 2:41one part fertilizer that gets you from seed to harvest with
- 2:45just one bottle or liquid gold as it's called in the uk so what
- 2:47are my dirty dozen what are these products well the worst
- 2:50one i've ever come across is formaldehyde or formalin as
- 2:54it's sometimes called this is on the
- 2:57face of it doesn't look like a nasty chemical but it is carcinogenic and
- 3:01it is highly hazardous and it can cause immediate effects if you touch it or
- 3:07come into contact with it or heaven forbid ingest it it's used in some sort
- 3:11of ship deep easy for me to say sheep dip type of products so like contact.
- 3:19Disinfectants for animals, but should never be used in a fertilizer.
- 3:22And the worst case I ever came across was an organic biostimulant,
- 3:27a seaweed extract from, I think it was from the,
- 3:30Orkneys in Scotland, and they were using it to preserve a seaweed extract.
- 3:35It was classified as organic.
- 3:37And I was testing its pH because I was testing it against a range of other pH
- 3:40seaweed products that I was, including the ones that I was manufacturing at the time and still do.
- 3:45And I was testing it for its pH, got a drop on my finger, I wasn't wearing any
- 3:48gloves, I wasn't wearing a glove because it wasn't classified as hazardous and
- 3:51it was a seaweed extract so I thought it'd be fine half an hour later my finger
- 3:55has swollen up to twice the size.
- 3:57It's normal size hard to believe but very
- 4:01shocking and I was like oh I can't buy the seaweed extract and
- 4:04then read the small print on the back of the label and said preserve with
- 4:07something really high like 0.1% formaldehyde
- 4:10I was like what the heck and well long
- 4:14story short that company doesn't exist anymore because they
- 4:17should never have been using a carcinogen to preserve
- 4:20a seaweed extract so that's probably
- 4:24number one on my list then i've got quats
- 4:28that's with a q or quaternary ammonium compounds
- 4:31such as and this is going to be don't
- 4:35worry the scientific names are going out for a bit benzalkonium chloride
- 4:38that's the most common one this is the sort of chemical that you find
- 4:42in patio cleaners and mold removers
- 4:45for your walls find it in things like wallpaper
- 4:48paste really strong residual preservatives and
- 4:52fungicides these are not the sort of things that you should ever put on food
- 4:56although some people do some people use it for disinfecting hydroponic units
- 5:00and water and that's because it's cheap and it's residual and it's effective
- 5:04but if you it's a skin and irritant, it's toxic to aquatic organisms,
- 5:09it's highly toxic,
- 5:11and it doesn't biodegrade.
- 5:14So the quads don't biodegrade. And you'll often see.
- 5:17This product contains no quads on the back of cosmetics and things like this.
- 5:20So this shouldn't be going into... People are... These are almost banned in
- 5:24many cosmetic applications.
- 5:25Certainly banned to put into food itself. So shouldn't really be going into fertilizer.
- 5:30Seen a terrible product in hydroponics where it actually advertised the fact
- 5:34on the label. This contains quaternary ammonium compounds.
- 5:37Clean up your grow room with this and your grow media.
- 5:42And that was shocking, really. And that product didn't take off, thank God.
- 5:46Probably because it killed the plants as well so avoid anything
- 5:49that's got quads in if you're worried about
- 5:53any of the ingredients that you might be in a fertilizer
- 5:55or a biostelement or any additive just stick it into chat
- 5:58gpt and say is this safe to consume so
- 6:02take the cast number or the ec number or the chemical name stick it into chat
- 6:06gpt and say is this safe to consume everything on a gold leaf or as it's called
- 6:10in the uk liquid gold label and safety data sheet you'll find is a normal fertilizer
- 6:15ingredient so don't put like calcium nitrate or you know.
- 6:21Magnesium sulfate into chat gpt and say is
- 6:24this safe to consume because they're obviously the fertilizer ingredients the
- 6:27element elements but put the preservatives in and see
- 6:30if it's safe to consume so formaldehyde is
- 6:33the worst i've ever seen next up is quats or benzalkinium
- 6:37chloride or back 50 as it's often called
- 6:40these are formaldehyde is a sheep dip your quats
- 6:43are your patio cleaners and your mold removers and your wallpaper paste type
- 6:47products don't use them next up we've got copper sulfate it's a moderately toxic
- 6:54but still toxic heavy metal if you consume lots of it then you'll then you will
- 6:59have long-term health issues a lot of vineyard,
- 7:03great growers suffer from copper toxicity and the
- 7:06plants themselves suffer from it as well too much copper is bad for plants
- 7:09and using copper sulfate as a preservative is
- 7:12not a good idea can be used in certain organic systems for formulation but it's
- 7:18not the best option and there are other alternatives out there if you just ask
- 7:21so copper sulfate is a bad one then there's a couple of other ones that are
- 7:26i've seen used recently and i would just say these are not.
- 7:32They're not allowed to be used
- 7:35in food production and they're not allowed to be used in cosmetic
- 7:38production so if you had a mascara or
- 7:41a lipstick these wouldn't be allowed in them so if you're not allowed to
- 7:44put them on your face then you probably shouldn't put them in the fertilizer on your plants that
- 7:47you're going to eat as well so one of them is bronopol that
- 7:50contains bromine bromine is not an essential nutrient
- 7:53for plants so you don't need bromine there and that can released formaldehyde
- 7:57and form nitrazamines which are
- 8:00systemic hazards in humans so avoid
- 8:04bronopole if you can and then cathone a strong sensitizer known to cause allergic
- 8:10reactions and dermatitis in high concentrations so cathone and bronopole not
- 8:15allowed in food not allowed in cosmetics so really should be looking to avoid
- 8:20those in formulations if possible.
- 8:23If you need any more information wikipedia is
- 8:26a great option stick these compounds in there and also
- 8:28just put it into japp gpt and say is this safe to
- 8:31use in fertilizer is it safe to use in cosmetics if
- 8:35you know of any other preservatives that are used in fertilizer and
- 8:38you would like me to have a look at them i'm more than happy to do that
- 8:41and i can add that as an addendum is
- 8:44that the word on the end of the next podcast and
- 8:46talk about those ones as well so the other
- 8:49thing as well is why a lot of these synthetic pesticides are
- 8:53used is that often people are trying to fight they've produced
- 8:56a formulation produced a stable formulation and then their last thought before
- 9:00they commercialize it is how are we going to preserve it preserve it or they've
- 9:04put it on the shelf and realized it blows up because the microbes start growing
- 9:08on it and they think ah sugar how am i going to preserve this and so they're
- 9:12fighting that rather than thinking,
- 9:14has to be preserved with food-created preservatives first.
- 9:18That sort of afterthought and that means that you
- 9:21could have a product that's ph12 and you're thinking well oh sugar
- 9:25these food grade preservatives are not going to work at ph12 so
- 9:27we're going to have a product that does so they get to
- 9:30someone like croda and they say which is a
- 9:33chemical company and they say give us a preservative that will work at ph12 or
- 9:36give us a preservative that will work at ph2 when really
- 9:39you should be using high quality ingredients that are
- 9:42not with extreme ph i don't think there's many additives
- 9:46that need to be of an extreme ph anyway in hydroponics and
- 9:50seaweed extracts the best quality
- 9:53seaweed extracts are mildly acidic anyway and
- 9:56that's what you want your growing media to be humic acids
- 10:00silicons are going to be high pH but silicons
- 10:03don't need much preserving anyway humic acids maybe what
- 10:07else could we say on the topic of preservatives obviously
- 10:10if you don't include them then microbes can grow in them and they
- 10:14can themselves be toxic as well so can't do
- 10:17without preservatives unless we want to completely rewrite.
- 10:20It and use powdered products all the time you
- 10:24might be thinking why don't you use peroxide or chlorine to
- 10:28preserve the products and that's because things
- 10:31like peroxides and chlorines
- 10:35are very short time scale activity so they break down very very quickly hydrogen
- 10:41peroxide breaks down really quickly and that's why it's a good thing to sterilize
- 10:46your grow system with peroxides because it's not going to last it's going to
- 10:53break down to water and oxygen and so.
- 10:55That makes it a fantastic sterilizing agent but
- 10:58not a good preservative and same with chlorine chlorine breaks down and that's
- 11:04one of its issues you know i used to work for a company that stored lots of
- 11:08bleach and the bleach was constantly going off and degrading in quality because
- 11:13the chlorine breaks down and is released as chlorine gas.
- 11:15So that's why we look for alternatives.
- 11:18Silver silver nitrate is used in very low concentrations
- 11:22for antimicrobial antimicrobial action however
- 11:25silver messes with plant hormones
- 11:28so it should be avoided when you think about silver as
- 11:31the colloidal silver is used in feminizing
- 11:35spray in legal cannabis and breeding and
- 11:38things like this but use it at the wrong time and you could have
- 11:41serious issues with your plant hormones your ethylene levels and you
- 11:45could have all your leaves dropping off or you could have males turn into
- 11:48females and females turn into males and so
- 11:51yeah don't don't use silver nitrate for that reason also because
- 11:54it's it's residual as well so it's not
- 11:57going to go anywhere so that's another consider so um
- 12:00i'm not sure if i mentioned quat products are non-biodegradable and
- 12:03that's one of the main issues with their use especially as patio
- 12:06cleaners and in wallpaper places like
- 12:09this these are these are almost forever chemicals so they should be avoided
- 12:14that's been hydroponics daily for today hope you found it interesting if you
- 12:18disagree on anything let me know i know it's not going to be to everyone's taste
- 12:21this one and some people will strongly disagree because their products will
- 12:25contain some of these ingredients but.
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