Latest / Mac & Bone Podcast / Mac & Bone Show - Adam Gold Interview
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- 0:21Speaker 1: Oh, God. It's so week one, baby. It is so
- 0:24Speaker 1: week one.
- 0:24Speaker 2: Finley and I trying to counterpoint negative Panther fans. I
- 0:30Speaker 2: just don't get it, man. We had the best season
- 0:32Speaker 2: bone in nine years last year. Had a moment at
- 0:35Speaker 2: the bank that I will never forget. Yeah, we didn't
- 0:38Speaker 2: win it, but holy crap, the way we pushed the Rams,
- 0:40Speaker 2: a team we beat in the regular season.
- 0:43Speaker 1: How do you, we add Lloyd, we add Phillips.
- 0:45Speaker 2: How are you not coming into this season feeling like,
- 0:48Speaker 2: can we take another step? We've taken steps each year
- 0:51Speaker 2: under Canales. Can we take another one? Instead, we got
- 0:55Speaker 2: these fans out there like a bunch of damn stick
- 0:57Speaker 2: in the mud Eeyores.
- 0:59Speaker 1: I mean, it's ridiculous.
- 1:00Speaker 2: It's like, y'all, I keep, if you had that attitude
- 1:04Speaker 2: during the rule era, during Frank Reich, during the early
- 1:08Speaker 2: years of David Tepper, that's the appropriate attitude, right? I
- 1:12Speaker 2: just don't get why you have yourself back to this
- 1:14Speaker 2: humdrum negative self-sadness, self-pitying crap.
- 1:20Speaker 3: Some of these texters make Eeyore seem like Richard Simmons.
- 1:23Speaker 2: By the way, I believe— God, we got to fire
- 1:26Speaker 2: you up this week, fools!
- 1:27Speaker 3: Were all three of us mad at a different texter
- 1:29Speaker 3: during the break in our own little world? Mac had
- 1:31Speaker 3: somebody over there.
- 1:32Speaker 1: Finney was.
- 1:33Speaker 2: Finney and I double teamed this guy. In the battle royal, Finney, oh,
- 1:35Speaker 2: you two were on the same guy. And Finney was
- 1:37Speaker 2: the safety over the top. I pressed him, and then
- 1:39Speaker 2: Finney came over the top and said, no, you don't, sir.
- 1:42Speaker 3: I heard both you guys typing your keyboards hard. I
- 1:44Speaker 3: didn't know what was going on.
- 1:45Speaker 4: I want to fight this guy in a parking lot
- 1:48Speaker 4: at a bank.
- 1:49Speaker 5: All right.
- 1:49Speaker 4: I want to give him the address and beat this
- 1:51Speaker 4: dude's ass.
- 1:51Speaker 1: Well, I didn't know how to do all that now.
- 1:55Speaker 4: I mean, I'm so, I'm tired of, we backed our
- 1:59Speaker 4: way into the playoffs.
- 2:00Speaker 6: No one 10 years from now is going to remember
- 2:03Speaker 6: that the record shows that the 2025 Panthers made the playoffs.
- 2:07Speaker 4: That's all that matters.
- 2:09Speaker 6: And Oh, by the way, the roster today, better than
- 2:12Speaker 6: the one that lost to the Rams in the playoffs
- 2:14Speaker 6: back in January.
- 2:15Speaker 3: It's okay.
- 2:16Speaker 4: To be excited as a sports fan.
- 2:18Speaker 3: Go off, King.
- 2:19Speaker 1: Is it a defense mechanism? Anyway, we'll talk.
- 2:21Speaker 2: We got all week to try to analyze, psychoanalyze our
- 2:24Speaker 2: fellow Panther fans here in the Queen City.
- 2:26Speaker 3: I didn't even step outside for a minute.
- 2:28Speaker 1: We got all week to do this.
- 2:29Speaker 2: I don't know if it's a self-defense, like a defense mechanism.
- 2:32Speaker 2: I don't know what it is. Anyway, we'll talk through
- 2:35Speaker 2: it this week here. We will try to get you
- 2:37Speaker 2: all fired up for the game. Uh, let's bring in
- 2:40Speaker 2: Adam gold right now, who just wants to deal with
- 2:42Speaker 2: his storylines in the triangle bone, like investigations into football programs,
- 2:47Speaker 2: not a fan base that is worried about the season after, uh,
- 2:51Speaker 2: winning the division. Adam gold joins us 99, nine to
- 2:55Speaker 2: fan in Raleigh. And of course, weeknights here on WFNZ
- 3:00Speaker 2: at seven o'clock Goldie.
- 3:01Speaker 1: How you feeling, man? What's going on?
- 3:03Speaker 5: I am feeling well. I totally understand sitting out wanting
- 3:09Speaker 5: to talk college football. Completely get that.
- 3:12Speaker 4: We're 1-0, Dodie. We're the best team in the triangle. Whoa, easy.
- 3:16Speaker 3: You know what?
- 3:18Speaker 5: Well, you're not. Duke is better, but still. Because they're
- 3:22Speaker 5: also 1-0. And by the way, 35 carries for Nate Shepard.
- 3:28Speaker 5: That's child abuse.
- 3:31Speaker 2: They work at him early, man. They got a bunch
- 3:33Speaker 2: more games to go against tougher teams. That was interesting.
- 3:36Speaker 5: That was just nutty. I sort of get what you
- 3:42Speaker 5: guys are saying about the Panthers, though. There's an unusual
- 3:46Speaker 5: amount of negativity there. around a team that I think
- 3:52Speaker 5: the reason for that is the preseason didn't go well. Yeah. Right.
- 3:56Speaker 5: The preseason didn't go well. And I didn't think the
- 3:59Speaker 5: defense looked all that good. I think the defense will
- 4:01Speaker 5: be better, but there's a lot of things that I
- 4:03Speaker 5: didn't like about the preseason, but it's just the preseason.
- 4:08Speaker 5: I want to see it during the regular season before
- 4:10Speaker 5: I make a judgment on it. I'm so I'm sort
- 4:12Speaker 5: of like, uh, I'll wait and see what I see
- 4:16Speaker 5: first before I lose my mind.
- 4:18Speaker 1: I think that's fair.
- 4:19Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that offensive tackle concerns aren't fair.
- 4:23Speaker 2: I mean, we're missing our two starters from last year's team.
- 4:26Speaker 5: I think it's the interior of the offensive line that's
- 4:29Speaker 5: the real problem for me.
- 4:30Speaker 1: Interior? You're not talking about the guards, are you? So
- 4:33Speaker 1: you're talking about Fortner?
- 4:35Speaker 5: Well, they've got to be– those two dudes, they weren't
- 4:39Speaker 5: really healthy in the preseason. Those two dudes have got
- 4:41Speaker 5: to stay healthy. If they don't, it's over. Their offense
- 4:45Speaker 5: will suck if Hunt and Lewis do not remain healthy.
- 4:50Speaker 5: Their offense will suck.
- 4:51Speaker 2: Goldie, I'm glad to see you aren't knee-jerk reacting, though.
- 4:53Speaker 2: You know what I mean? You're angry about injuries that
- 4:57Speaker 2: haven't even occurred yet. Anyway, Hunt's health, Damian Lewis has
- 5:04Speaker 2: missed like one game a year pretty much for like
- 5:07Speaker 2: five games straight. I'll take that. That's pretty solid. Robert
- 5:10Speaker 2: Hunt is the one whose health I worry about. But Goldie,
- 5:14Speaker 2: we're not here to talk about our defending division champs.
- 5:17Speaker 2: We're here to talk about the Chapel Hill off the
- 5:19Speaker 2: field train.
- 5:20Speaker 1: Wreck, sir. All right.
- 5:21Speaker 2: That's what we're here to talk about. What do you
- 5:23Speaker 2: think about this WRAL piece that they put out at
- 5:27Speaker 2: the end of last week, kind of detailing that? where
- 5:30Speaker 2: the investigation is headed. Like, do you feel, and I
- 5:33Speaker 2: hate it for Tariel fans because they finally get some
- 5:35Speaker 2: momentum with the win in Ireland. And now here's another
- 5:38Speaker 2: off the field thing. Although I do think Lombardi resigning
- 5:41Speaker 2: is good news for the program, but like, does this,
- 5:44Speaker 2: does this investigation make you think, Oh no, this like,
- 5:47Speaker 2: even if Belichick wins a few games, this could, this
- 5:50Speaker 2: could chase them out of there.
- 5:52Speaker 1: What do you think?
- 5:54Speaker 5: Look, I think if they play reasonably well, I think
- 5:56Speaker 5: they'll come back for year three and, I think there's
- 6:00Speaker 5: a lot of things at play here. First of all,
- 6:02Speaker 5: this is not a WRAL investigation. This is a UNC
- 6:06Speaker 5: investigation in which somebody or multiple people within the administration
- 6:12Speaker 5: are leaking the questions that are being asked. So this
- 6:17Speaker 5: is not like Pat Welter and Brian Murphy knocking on doors.
- 6:22Speaker 5: This is not Pablo Torre finds out here. And I'm
- 6:27Speaker 5: not trying to slight those guys because they have been
- 6:30Speaker 5: they've received information and now they are asking questions. But
- 6:33Speaker 5: this was a UNC investigation into the H.R. violations that were,
- 6:38Speaker 5: you know, that Michael Lombardi was accused for accused of.
- 6:41Speaker 5: On top of that. Remember when they said it was
- 6:45Speaker 5: a witch hunt and they have nothing on him, otherwise
- 6:48Speaker 5: they would have fired him already? And then he resigned? Okay.
- 6:53Speaker 5: Maybe Tom Mars got out over his skis a little bit.
- 6:57Speaker 5: Maybe Michael Lombardi wasn't completely truthful with his attorney. We'll
- 7:00Speaker 5: see where it goes from here. But look, there have been...
- 7:05Speaker 5: all sorts of crazy rumors. I don't want to get
- 7:07Speaker 5: into the rumors because that's not fair to anybody, not
- 7:10Speaker 5: to mention if you're wrong, you expose yourself. But everything
- 7:15Speaker 5: that has been posed by WRAL are questions that are
- 7:19Speaker 5: being asked by the investigators that UNC is paying. And look,
- 7:25Speaker 5: what happened yesterday at that press conference, I got no
- 7:28Speaker 5: problem with both parties. No problem. Like, I mean, should
- 7:32Speaker 5: Bill Belichick have answered some of the questions that he
- 7:35Speaker 5: can answer? Yeah, absolutely. But anybody that ever thought he
- 7:40Speaker 5: was going to is nuts. So Pat Welter asked the
- 7:45Speaker 5: questions that needed to be asked in the way he
- 7:47Speaker 5: needed to ask them. He left it like, Bill, you
- 7:50Speaker 5: should answer this question. And Bill just went, basically, we're
- 7:52Speaker 5: on East Tennessee State. Yeah. And that's fine. That's exactly
- 7:56Speaker 5: what he was going to do. But the questions have
- 7:58Speaker 5: to be asked. Carolina fans getting mad at that. Just
- 8:01Speaker 5: get out of here.
- 8:01Speaker 3: Well, that's been my thing has been Welter and the report.
- 8:06Speaker 3: They didn't open up and start the stuff with UNC.
- 8:09Speaker 3: That was done, to your point, by them. They're just
- 8:12Speaker 3: reporting on what was found.
- 8:14Speaker 1: They're talking to the people who have been questioned.
- 8:16Speaker 3: This wasn't an RAL special report where they went inside
- 8:19Speaker 3: and found stuff. It was like, Lombardi was on leave
- 8:21Speaker 3: for a reason, guys. It wasn't like they got him
- 8:24Speaker 3: on leave. Like, oh, they found this out.
- 8:26Speaker 1: He's on leave.
- 8:26Speaker 3: He was on leave, and they're trying to figure out
- 8:29Speaker 3: why he's on leave.
- 8:30Speaker 2: Yeah, and the investigation went from Lombardi to the entire program,
- 8:33Speaker 2: which ain't good news.
- 8:35Speaker 5: Steve Belichick's on medical leave. They haven't told us of
- 8:38Speaker 5: a medical condition. Is he dealing with cancer? Is he
- 8:41Speaker 5: dealing with some heart murmur? Whatever. We don't know what
- 8:46Speaker 5: the deal is. So it makes more sense— that maybe
- 8:50Speaker 5: this is drug-related, maybe he is in a rehab. I
- 8:55Speaker 5: honestly do not know. But when they leave it with
- 9:00Speaker 5: no information, and that's a Bill Belichick thing, well, then
- 9:03Speaker 5: you leave yourself open to everything that comes with that,
- 9:06Speaker 5: and you can't be surprised when that stuff happens.
- 9:09Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. Goldie, how do you think this plays
- 9:11Speaker 3: out with Dabo and his future at Clemson?
- 9:14Speaker 5: I don't know. Well, as long as Pat Welter and
- 9:18Speaker 5: Brian Murphy don't get involved, I think Dabo's probably okay. Look,
- 9:22Speaker 5: that was about as embarrassing as you're going to get
- 9:27Speaker 5: in college football. I mean, everybody I talk to, I
- 9:31Speaker 5: ask the same question heading into the season. Give me
- 9:35Speaker 5: a surprise team in the ACC. Roddy Jones, Eric McLean,
- 9:40Speaker 5: even Wes Durham, they all say, Clemson could be good.
- 9:44Speaker 5: And I'm like, man, they stunk with nine NFL draft
- 9:49Speaker 5: picks last year. I don't I don't play the post
- 9:54Speaker 5: the offseason roster game. I really don't. Because you just
- 9:59Speaker 5: don't know. let me see you when you play maybe
- 10:02Speaker 5: LSU is a national championship team I'm going to allow
- 10:05Speaker 5: for that so it looked worse than it could have
- 10:07Speaker 5: been but boy did Clemson look dysfunctional.
- 10:11Speaker 1: They did, man.
- 10:12Speaker 2: Oh, it was, I mean, just outclassed in a trench.
- 10:14Speaker 2: They had 74 yards before that last 71-yard drive that
- 10:18Speaker 2: nobody stayed up for. Like, they had a 71-yard touchdown drive.
- 10:22Speaker 2: Nobody stayed up for it. Nobody watched it. They had
- 10:24Speaker 2: 74 yards before that. Goldie, they had zero rush yards
- 10:27Speaker 2: when that final drive nobody watched started.
- 10:30Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 10:30Speaker 2: Like they, I think, God, they got manhandled, but I
- 10:33Speaker 2: do tend to agree. And there were some textures that
- 10:36Speaker 2: were ripping me for this yesterday. I do like, I
- 10:39Speaker 2: still think Clemson can have an all right season, but
- 10:43Speaker 2: that shouldn't be good enough. But I also think they
- 10:46Speaker 2: have a problem in these openers. They can't compete with
- 10:49Speaker 2: these sec schools anymore. They've lost eight straight, but I
- 10:52Speaker 2: also think LSU, like, I think they're the goods, man.
- 10:56Speaker 2: I thought that that might've said more about LSU on Saturday.
- 10:59Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 11:00Speaker 5: I think it probably, I think it said something about both.
- 11:04Speaker 5: But yeah, I think LSU is a national champ, might
- 11:06Speaker 5: be a national championship contender. And Clemson is a good,
- 11:13Speaker 5: let's see, they're like the Aston Villa of the ACC.
- 11:17Speaker 5: I don't think they're good enough to play all the
- 11:19Speaker 5: way at the top, but I think they could finish
- 11:22Speaker 5: fourth or fifth and maybe make Europe.
- 11:24Speaker 2: And incidentally, Ashton Villa has not scored a goal all season.
- 11:28Speaker 2: Very similar to the struggling early season Clemson offense the
- 11:31Speaker 2: last few years.
- 11:33Speaker 3: People are laughing at Goldie doing the Michael Jackson when
- 11:36Speaker 3: he got asked about Dabo there. What was that noise
- 11:38Speaker 3: you made there, Goldie?
- 11:39Speaker 5: I don't know. Did I make a noise?
- 11:42Speaker 1: There was some high-pitched laughter at Dabo's expense.
- 11:46Speaker 5: It's actually cool here in Oxford, North Carolina.
- 11:50Speaker 1: Okay, okay. I wasn't laughing at that. It was a
- 11:53Speaker 1: little chilly, a little chilly. All right, Goldie, you are
- 11:55Speaker 1: the man. I love it, baby.
- 11:57Speaker 2: I love it. Keep it up, and everybody, make sure
- 12:00Speaker 2: you listen to Goldie. Weeknight, 7 o'clock here at WFNZ.
- 12:04Speaker 2: His dog also has a lot to say about football
- 12:07Speaker 2: in the background.
- 12:08Speaker 1: I love a dog. I love a dog who gets
- 12:09Speaker 1: fired up when you talk football, Goldie. That's cool.
- 12:12Speaker 5: Yeah, Earl's more of a European football fan, though.
- 12:16Speaker 2: He did really get fired up when you mentioned the promotion.