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- 0:00Speaker 1: And nine Ignition six five four.
- 0:08Speaker 2: Three two one zero.
- 0:12Speaker 3: All Engine running, Good evening, everybody.
- 0:22Speaker 4: This is Kelson and I'm going to start this show
- 0:24Speaker 4: a little bit different today because this week, or last
- 0:29Speaker 4: week actually, the wrestling world recognized the passing the six
- 0:34Speaker 4: year anniversary of the passing of Hanna Kamira. She took
- 0:40Speaker 4: her own life after online bullying, intense online bullying. And
- 0:46Speaker 4: if anybody who knows me knows this about me for sure,
- 0:52Speaker 4: there is nothing that I dislike more than a bully,
- 0:57Speaker 4: bullies or cowards, and they attack people who cannot defend
- 1:02Speaker 4: themselves and people who should not have to defend themselves. Now,
- 1:08Speaker 4: Hannah never wrestled in aw She did, however, wrestle I
- 1:13Speaker 4: believe it was in twenty eighteen in Rigam Honor, and
- 1:15Speaker 4: once she passed, ringa Honor did a really nice tribute
- 1:19Speaker 4: to her, and I encourage everybody to go and watch that.
- 1:24Speaker 4: Now every year they do a Hannah Kamara tribute show.
- 1:28Speaker 4: They just did one last week. And one of the
- 1:32Speaker 4: things that is interesting is that even though somebody like
- 1:35Speaker 4: Mercedes Monet never wrestled Hannah Kamura that I know of,
- 1:41Speaker 4: she still did a tribute to Hannah Cakmira in wrestling gear.
- 1:48Speaker 4: That's special. I'm sorry, that is special. That shows you
- 1:52Speaker 4: how much she was loved. But that's not the only
- 1:56Speaker 4: aw wrestler to pay tribute to Hannah Kamiera in a
- 1:59Speaker 4: lot a lot of people, even wrestling fans like Hannah
- 2:03Speaker 4: Kamura fans like me, almost missed it. But there was
- 2:07Speaker 4: a big tribute to Hannah Kamura at Double or Nothing
- 2:12Speaker 4: by another or other than the ae W Men's World Champion.
- 2:19Speaker 4: MJF were Hannah's colors neon. If you looked at him
- 2:25Speaker 4: when he was walking through the back, his robe literally
- 2:30Speaker 4: was glowing, which Hannah did. Hannah's did as well, So
- 2:38Speaker 4: I give MJF all the credit in the world. That
- 2:43Speaker 4: was special. A big star like MGF and the biggest
- 2:47Speaker 4: stage did a great job with that. Thank you, MJF.
- 2:51Speaker 4: That's I want to just put up this photo. This
- 2:53Speaker 4: is Mercedes Monet with Hannah Kamura's mom. If you look
- 2:58Speaker 4: at the T shirt, it says he the hate absolutely.
- 3:02Speaker 4: When Hanna kamer died six years ago, I believe it
- 3:05Speaker 4: was the day before Double or Nothing and during Double
- 3:09Speaker 4: or Nothing, and I believe it was during or just
- 3:11Speaker 4: before the I think it was Hakarroshida and Nila Rose
- 3:16Speaker 4: match aw put Hannah's image up on the big screen.
- 3:22Speaker 4: The crowd instantly got silent out of respect, and Excalibur
- 3:28Speaker 4: paid a small tribute to Hannah Kamura on that occasion,
- 3:33Speaker 4: and he ended his little speech with something that rings
- 3:38Speaker 4: true and I want if this reaches one person more
- 3:43Speaker 4: what Excalibur said, then this whole little intro was worth it.
- 3:49Speaker 4: Excalibur closed his tribute to Hannah Kamura by saying something
- 3:55Speaker 4: to the effect up and I believe this is the
- 3:57Speaker 4: exact quote he just said. Please be nice to want them. Yes, sir,
- 4:02Speaker 4: it's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for
- 4:05Speaker 4: ignition with the Awvan podcast team. We just saw Double
- 4:10Speaker 4: or Nothing on Sunday. We're going to talk about it
- 4:14Speaker 4: quite a bit tonight, and wow, I'm sure we all
- 4:17Speaker 4: have a lot to say about it. Don't want to
- 4:19Speaker 4: put any words in anybody's mouth, but I want to
- 4:22Speaker 4: throw it over the valerie right now because this isn't
- 4:27Speaker 4: her backyard.
- 4:27Speaker 5: Yes it is Montreal. Be prepared. I wrote a tweet
- 4:33Speaker 5: after I after I went, after I came back from
- 4:38Speaker 5: Dynasty in Vancouver, and I said, please, please, please, Tony,
- 4:42Speaker 5: please bring a w back to Montreal, Please have us
- 4:46Speaker 5: a pay per view, and we finally, finally going to
- 4:49Speaker 5: have one and exactly two months at the Bell Center,
- 4:54Speaker 5: home of the greatest team on national hokying, the Montreal
- 4:59Speaker 5: Get Indiens, Go, Habs Go. It's going to be fantastic.
- 5:04Speaker 5: So tickets will be on sale on June first, But
- 5:09Speaker 5: the pre cell is in exactly two days on the
- 5:13Speaker 5: twenty eighth of May, at around ten am local time.
- 5:18Speaker 5: So if you want to come to Montreal, you are welcome.
- 5:23Speaker 4: Is ten am your local time? Is that Eastern time.
- 5:26Speaker 5: So there's a pre cell on the twenty eight like
- 5:29Speaker 5: a VIP pre sale like what I read really really quick.
- 5:34Speaker 5: But the general and mission will be on June first.
- 5:37Speaker 4: Bellarie you ever bet you? Wow? Have you ever been
- 5:41Speaker 4: to a wrestling show at the Bell Center in Montreal?
- 5:45Speaker 6: Never?
- 5:46Speaker 4: Okay? I was wondering if you could give us a
- 5:49Speaker 4: little hit about the setup, but I guess you can't
- 5:51Speaker 4: because it's going to be you too, So that's great.
- 5:54Speaker 4: It's a new experience.
- 5:56Speaker 5: The Bell Center is the biggest arena in the NHL.
- 6:03Speaker 5: There's twenty one thousand people that could be in it.
- 6:08Speaker 5: And when there's the hockey game because now the Montreal
- 6:11Speaker 5: Canadians are in the Eastern Conference. It's sold out, so
- 6:16Speaker 5: there's twenty one thousand people in there, so.
- 6:20Speaker 4: That'd probably probably be more for well, no, not necessarily
- 6:23Speaker 4: because they don't have the stage in a hockey game,
- 6:25Speaker 4: so it probably would be a little bit less, probably
- 6:27Speaker 4: around sixteen thousand maybe because they'd be blocking off, like,
- 6:34Speaker 4: you know, a quarter of the arena, I'm sure. But
- 6:37Speaker 4: then you'd gain more because there's no floor seats in hockey.
- 6:40Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 6:40Speaker 4: Wait, wouldn't that be fun?
- 6:42Speaker 5: That would be But no, there's no floor and there's
- 6:46Speaker 5: no floor in the for the hockey for the hockey match.
- 6:51Speaker 5: But I'm thinking there's probably gonna be fifteen thousand people,
- 6:58Speaker 5: but I'm crossing my fingers. But if I were, if
- 7:03Speaker 5: I were, if I were told, I would have gone
- 7:06Speaker 5: a little bit north to Laval, which is speedball Mike's
- 7:12Speaker 5: baby hometown. At plas Bell. There's ten thousand people that
- 7:18Speaker 5: could easily filled up that building. And I went there
- 7:22Speaker 5: in twenty nineteen for a WWE show and we were
- 7:28Speaker 5: probably about five six seven thousand people and it was
- 7:32Speaker 5: not a nountelevised event for Christmas.
- 7:35Speaker 4: So okay, great, well, thanks Aval. We're gonna move on.
- 7:41Speaker 4: But before we move on, I want to give some
- 7:44Speaker 4: shout outs to the people in the chat. Conrad at
- 7:47Speaker 4: EPW show, be sure to watch his a are you
- 7:50Speaker 4: doing an aw dynamite collision review show tomorrow night or
- 7:57Speaker 4: you can hold off until Thursday, Conrad. But Conrad says,
- 8:00Speaker 4: good evening, Uh, MJF and Sore Sabers span over here,
- 8:06Speaker 4: happy for Montreal. Matt Lopez, Hi, good evening everyone. How
- 8:10Speaker 4: you doing Matt? And fly Boys? Five boy Rex? He said,
- 8:15Speaker 4: what's going Brev? What's going on? Fly Boy? Thanks for
- 8:19Speaker 4: joining us. Keep going in the chat. We'll try to
- 8:21Speaker 4: break in and uh and uh show you know what's
- 8:25Speaker 4: going on, you know, talk about what's going on and
- 8:28Speaker 4: getting you guys involved. But for right now, we are
- 8:31Speaker 4: going to move on.
- 8:32Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll hijack this for a second. First of all,
- 8:35Speaker 1: I want to poke a little fun at you right now.
- 8:37Speaker 1: The last time I checked, the Hurricanes are beating so
- 8:42Speaker 1: we'll see. We'll see how that plays out.
- 8:45Speaker 4: That's that's.
- 8:50Speaker 7: In the first game.
- 8:51Speaker 4: It was fantastic they did.
- 8:55Speaker 1: God forbid an American takes hockey away from Canadians. I'm
- 8:58Speaker 1: not going to do that to yet. I was trying
- 9:00Speaker 1: to summon a wild rounds either, because I know him
- 9:02Speaker 1: and I are both big hockey fans. We got our
- 9:05Speaker 1: little farm team up here with him and I catch
- 9:07Speaker 1: a couple games a year, but we wanted like speaking
- 9:09Speaker 1: about interesting arena's, new arena's new setups. Let's talk about
- 9:13Speaker 1: Double or Nothing like Louis Armstrong Arena. That little tennis
- 9:16Speaker 1: joint that they had was fantastic. It was a really
- 9:19Speaker 1: cool setup. It looked like a much bigger production that
- 9:21Speaker 1: I also want to throw out there that AAW. You know,
- 9:24Speaker 1: Double Nothing twenty twenty six. It's the second highest biggest
- 9:28Speaker 1: non WWE US gate ever at one point five six
- 9:32Speaker 1: million trailing. You know, just all in Texas twenty twenty five.
- 9:36Speaker 1: Big things for AEW. You know, Tony Kahn said he
- 9:40Speaker 1: was profitable this year, so obviously they're not worried about
- 9:42Speaker 1: money right now. And you know, it'd be cool to
- 9:44Speaker 1: see them there next year. It was just really a
- 9:46Speaker 1: fantastic venue all in all. You know, I'm going to
- 9:49Speaker 1: open it up to you guys and not do what
- 9:50Speaker 1: I normally do and hijack this pod. But it was
- 9:52Speaker 1: a fantastic pay per view. We got a lot of
- 9:55Speaker 1: really cool things out of it, a couple of really
- 9:57Speaker 1: cool title changes. Obviously, my boy it went over. Really
- 10:01Speaker 1: happy to see that rip Darby alban Alan. But I'm
- 10:04Speaker 1: really curious to hear what you guys actually thought about
- 10:06Speaker 1: the pay per view. I'm assuming it's somewhere along the same.
- 10:10Speaker 4: I do want to break in here, Shan, just a
- 10:12Speaker 4: caution everybody that we are going to be talking about MJF,
- 10:16Speaker 4: Kevin Knight, and Tecla at length. We have segments already
- 10:21Speaker 4: you know, installed for them, so try not to talk
- 10:24Speaker 4: about those matches so much as far as in depth
- 10:28Speaker 4: right now, because we will get into those later. But
- 10:32Speaker 4: go ahead, what did you guy? I'm curious what if
- 10:35Speaker 4: you had to give a grade and there's net how
- 10:38Speaker 4: you doing that? If you had to get a grade
- 10:40Speaker 4: right now for double or nothing, what would it be?
- 10:45Speaker 7: Hey plus? For me, I thought this was the show
- 10:47Speaker 7: of the year. I enjoyed every match, like every match
- 10:52Speaker 7: was at least good, but not a lot of them
- 10:57Speaker 7: were freaking fantastic.
- 11:00Speaker 4: I'm interested here with the excuse me wrong. So one second,
- 11:04Speaker 4: I really want the people in the chat to also
- 11:06Speaker 4: give their grades go ahead.
- 11:08Speaker 6: Wrongs, Chris, I agree with you. I didn't think there
- 11:13Speaker 6: was a single match where I was like, eh, whatever.
- 11:18Speaker 6: My prediction going in was that Samoa Joe versus will
- 11:23Speaker 6: Osprey was gonna be matched to the night. That's no
- 11:26Speaker 6: disrespect to Okata and Takashia, but I just felt like
- 11:30Speaker 6: Samoa Joe and will Osprey could just put on an
- 11:35Speaker 6: absolute classic, and they did. But then we got to
- 11:40Speaker 6: Cashadow Kyle. I was like, what is that? Just to
- 11:46Speaker 6: touch on that valid redemption, that's gonna be Aw's second
- 11:53Speaker 6: of three pay per views in Canada because they're also
- 11:56Speaker 6: doing Wrestle Dream in Toronto at scot Your Bank Arena.
- 12:02Speaker 6: And also there's no way they would run a pay
- 12:06Speaker 6: per view at the Leval Rockets Arena in Laval. There's
- 12:10Speaker 6: no way, all.
- 12:11Speaker 4: Right, Well, anybody else with A with a grade?
- 12:14Speaker 7: And I.
- 12:17Speaker 6: Do, yes, an a valerie?
- 12:24Speaker 4: Okay, who else?
- 12:27Speaker 2: I will give them an A, especially for zero hour
- 12:31Speaker 2: and you all know why.
- 12:34Speaker 4: That must have been the part of the show I
- 12:36Speaker 4: turned off. Anyway, anybody else with a grade?
- 12:40Speaker 6: Yes?
- 12:42Speaker 1: I asked here straight off? This is this is a
- 12:45Speaker 1: contender for pay per View of the Year.
- 12:46Speaker 4: Acrossers and Conrad has joined us. Welcome Conrad. Conrad. Before
- 12:53Speaker 4: we go any further, if you turn your mic on
- 12:55Speaker 4: what time on Thursday will you be doing your AW
- 12:59Speaker 4: Dynamite AW Collision review or do you not know yet?
- 13:04Speaker 8: It'll be Thursday at seven pm.
- 13:06Speaker 4: Thursday at seven pm at EPW show on YouTube. Great show.
- 13:12Speaker 4: Give it a listen. It's highly interactive. Fly Boy Rex
- 13:18Speaker 4: on the chats that I give it an A solid
- 13:20Speaker 4: matches and the pacing of the show is good. Couldn't
- 13:23Speaker 4: agree more, couldn't agree more? I give it an A plus.
- 13:26Speaker 4: I thought some of the matches actually overperformed. They exceeded
- 13:31Speaker 4: my expectations. Was there any matches, guys that you felt
- 13:38Speaker 4: didn't quite meet your expectations? Were anything? Was there anything
- 13:41Speaker 4: to yet.
- 13:41Speaker 5: Disappointed in versus Athena?
- 13:44Speaker 6: Yeah, you thought it.
- 13:45Speaker 4: Could be better? What disappointed you? Was it something that
- 13:50Speaker 4: happened in the match was.
- 13:51Speaker 5: What I expected because I picked Athena to win against Mina.
- 13:56Speaker 5: But I don't know it felt I don't. I don't,
- 13:59Speaker 5: I don't. I can't put my finger on it. It's
- 14:03Speaker 5: just it wasn't for me. But I want to see
- 14:07Speaker 5: Athena more in a w.
- 14:09Speaker 7: I mean she's right, well.
- 14:13Speaker 4: Well she won, so she's definitely going to be backed,
- 14:15Speaker 4: ye you know pretty soon, and we're gonna be talking
- 14:19Speaker 4: about the wildcard. What do we who's going to be
- 14:21Speaker 4: the wildcard? A little bit later on in the show
- 14:23Speaker 4: and the owen Hart Women's Tournament. You know, what disappointed
- 14:26Speaker 4: me a little bit was that there was this hot
- 14:29Speaker 4: blonde in the crowd and it turned out to be Lucasaurus,
- 14:34Speaker 4: and I mean it was just like swing and then.
- 14:37Speaker 1: You know, but.
- 14:42Speaker 4: And the worst and the worst part about it to
- 14:44Speaker 4: me was that the hop lot spits.
- 14:49Speaker 7: I know, I.
- 14:54Speaker 4: Am hanging my head in shame. Yes, I I why.
- 15:00Speaker 7: Told me I need to wash my mouth. I am trying.
- 15:03Speaker 6: I did see it.
- 15:05Speaker 4: I blame Shane, you know, for his uh terrible influence.
- 15:15Speaker 4: I blame I Toby Tanaka. That's It's just as simple
- 15:18Speaker 4: as that.
- 15:19Speaker 1: Oh my lord, oh Jesus, well.
- 15:28Speaker 7: That is.
- 15:28Speaker 4: But for those who are watching YouTube, Shade is beat
- 15:33Speaker 4: red right now. He is he is. He looks like
- 15:37Speaker 4: he looks like an apple took over his body.
- 15:44Speaker 1: For context, I sent Kelson. So they started putting up
- 15:49Speaker 1: the hall in w w E Hall of Fame inductees,
- 15:52Speaker 1: and someone made one for Tomaka and I popped it
- 15:56Speaker 1: in another wrestling community just like she's the best Japanese
- 16:00Speaker 1: tell they hits the mat like, okay, yeah, that wasn't
- 16:02Speaker 1: a lie. But I'm done.
- 16:06Speaker 4: I'm done, and I'm being honest. I my virginity must
- 16:13Speaker 4: be coming out because I have no clue who it is,
- 16:15Speaker 4: who that is? So and I'm being serious to great,
- 16:20Speaker 4: I have no no clue. I'm gonna google it when
- 16:23Speaker 4: we get off, and Shane, I'm maybe coming to your
- 16:26Speaker 4: house with the with the whip, but I'm just going
- 16:28Speaker 4: to say that right now.
- 16:30Speaker 1: You know what, shame on all of shame on all
- 16:32Speaker 1: of you guys are all perpose And who's gonna ask
- 16:43Speaker 1: me to check my heart? Who's checking that guy's hard drive?
- 16:47Speaker 7: How about that.
- 16:51Speaker 6: Actually saves?
- 16:58Speaker 4: Yes? That was that was Brillian and Chris. Yeah, what
- 17:00Speaker 4: about that? I mean everybody, I've watched a lot of
- 17:04Speaker 4: reviews on YouTube and a pretty much every one of
- 17:08Speaker 4: them is saying that that was the match of the night.
- 17:10Speaker 4: Do you guys agree?
- 17:13Speaker 7: Yeah, I honestly can say I considered a Match of
- 17:19Speaker 7: the Year contender.
- 17:21Speaker 4: The year is young, the year is young, But yeah,
- 17:24Speaker 4: I can't. I can't argue with you. That was he
- 17:28Speaker 4: I mean, just the storytelling, the emotion that they conveyed
- 17:32Speaker 4: toward each other. I mean, you can it do seething
- 17:35Speaker 4: and then say his full name.
- 17:37Speaker 7: Chris, Kyle Herbert, Walker, Comato Fletcher. Wait wait, I'm messed up,
- 17:44Speaker 7: pro Star Kyle Herbert, Walker, Kitty Bonport, Tomato Fleser.
- 17:51Speaker 4: Exactly, there you go.
- 17:55Speaker 6: The way they executed that was absolutely perfect. I love
- 18:01Speaker 6: that they saved it for after the match. I didn't
- 18:04Speaker 6: want there to be any in match Shenanigan. Just let
- 18:10Speaker 6: the two of them make absolute magic and my good
- 18:18Speaker 6: That's all I can say.
- 18:20Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that was actually done perfectly. I mean
- 18:24Speaker 4: I was look, I'm gonna say this, and I mean
- 18:28Speaker 4: this kind of a little bit off topic, but I
- 18:30Speaker 4: want to go back to the first two matches, which
- 18:33Speaker 4: of course includes Ocada Takeshta. I said right from the beginning,
- 18:37Speaker 4: when those first two matches of double or Nothing were over,
- 18:40Speaker 4: I was like, that was better than anything to ww
- 18:43Speaker 4: Weed that I have seen has put together this year,
- 18:47Speaker 4: just those two matches, and we still had the rest
- 18:50Speaker 4: of the show to go. The beginning of that show
- 18:54Speaker 4: was brilliant, absolutely brilliant, and EXGW wrestlings here said s up,
- 19:01Speaker 4: sup back at you, thanks for joining, and uh do
- 19:07Speaker 4: you agree with me?
- 19:08Speaker 7: There?
- 19:08Speaker 1: Do mean?
- 19:08Speaker 4: Do you think that those first two matches were just.
- 19:15Speaker 7: So?
- 19:19Speaker 1: It's straight up delivered on a year of storytelling in
- 19:22Speaker 1: one direction almost two years of storytelling, and the other
- 19:25Speaker 1: was a little bit predictable because we kind of knew
- 19:27Speaker 1: it was headed, but man did it. It was so
- 19:31Speaker 1: well done, especially.
- 19:34Speaker 7: That opening MAK was so freaking good. I was like,
- 19:37Speaker 7: how is the rest of them going to follow this?
- 19:39Speaker 6: And then.
- 19:41Speaker 7: Like all our stuff take.
- 19:44Speaker 6: Honestly surprised they opened with the I quit match. That's
- 19:48Speaker 6: not what I predicted or expected, but I definitely liked it.
- 19:55Speaker 6: My thought on that was as much as I wanted
- 19:58Speaker 6: Coping Cage to be Tag Team Champions just because of
- 20:04Speaker 6: my fantasy booking, I actually wanted FDR to retain because
- 20:08Speaker 6: I have a crazy multi team ladder match at all
- 20:13Speaker 6: in FTR versus The Young Bucks versus The New Day
- 20:18Speaker 6: versus The Rascal versus the Motus City machine Guns in
- 20:23Speaker 6: a ladder match for the ae W World Tag Team Championship. Again,
- 20:30Speaker 6: I want all disrespect to coping cage. But just for
- 20:34Speaker 6: those reasons, I wanted FTR to retain. But cop and
- 20:39Speaker 6: Cage winning, I have no issue with it.
- 20:42Speaker 7: Hey just make it a sixth man ladder match with coat.
- 20:46Speaker 6: If if you want to do that, sure, go ahead.
- 20:49Speaker 4: Okay. The valerie said that the match that she felt
- 20:52Speaker 4: was that didn't I don't. I don't want to use
- 20:55Speaker 4: the word week is didn't hit as well for her?
- 20:57Speaker 4: Was that fair to say? Does anybody else have a
- 21:01Speaker 4: match that didn't hit exactly right for them? I do,
- 21:06Speaker 4: I I kinda. The Moxley O'Reilly match didn't do it
- 21:12Speaker 4: for me as much as the other matches did it. LD,
- 21:18Speaker 4: hold on your jests. I have muted you multiple times.
- 21:21Speaker 4: You're making a ton of noise over there. Sounds like
- 21:26Speaker 4: they're putting putting glass in a in a tumbler and
- 21:30Speaker 4: shaking it. Keep stabuted, please, Yeah, was so what I
- 21:42Speaker 4: would say Moxley O'Reilly. It was a good match, don't
- 21:45Speaker 4: get me wrong, It just didn't have anything special in
- 21:48Speaker 4: it to me, and and frankly, we how many times
- 21:51Speaker 4: have they've wrestled already? It's kind of like a repeat
- 21:53Speaker 4: a little bit. I don't know, you know, but I
- 21:56Speaker 4: wasn't complaining about it. It's just that this just seemed
- 21:59Speaker 4: like the it was really not a whole lot new
- 22:01Speaker 4: and we've seen it before. Taking nothing away from the match,
- 22:04Speaker 4: because it was a great match, it's just that seemed
- 22:07Speaker 4: like I'd seen it before. That's all.
- 22:09Speaker 7: Anybody else, I guess I could say the women's or way,
- 22:13Speaker 7: It just there were a lot of moments that felt
- 22:17Speaker 7: kind of clunky and like they weren't they were almost
- 22:21Speaker 7: fighting against each other and like not wanting not really
- 22:25Speaker 7: working with each other. There were just some weird moments
- 22:28Speaker 7: that felt like one wanted to go this way and
- 22:31Speaker 7: the other was like, no, I'm going this way. And
- 22:33Speaker 7: it's just overall it was a good match. It's just
- 22:37Speaker 7: there were a few moments where I'm like, that was awkward.
- 22:40Speaker 4: Well, to be fair, when you put four people of
- 22:42Speaker 4: any caliber in the ring together, you're always going to
- 22:45Speaker 4: have a chance for four times the amount of misspots
- 22:51Speaker 4: and screw ups, which did not happen in this match.
- 22:54Speaker 4: It did seem a little bit uh, you know, slow
- 22:59Speaker 4: at time. I guess I don't know, but I think
- 23:02Speaker 4: they pulled it off really well. I'm gonna go to
- 23:04Speaker 4: Conrad Conrad. Is there anything in double or nothing that
- 23:07Speaker 4: didn't hit quite right for you still be in a
- 23:09Speaker 4: great match, but you know not, it didn't just stand
- 23:14Speaker 4: out as much as some of the other matches. I
- 23:16Speaker 4: guess Conrad's not here.
- 23:17Speaker 8: Oh there is no I'm here. What match were you
- 23:20Speaker 8: referring to? I'm getting a little issue here.
- 23:22Speaker 4: With Adie match any match? Is there any match a
- 23:26Speaker 4: double or nothing that you felt that maybe didn't hit
- 23:30Speaker 4: as hard as some of the other matches.
- 23:33Speaker 8: I think it's really tough to say that because I
- 23:35Speaker 8: think everything landed on the mark. If your worst match
- 23:38Speaker 8: of the night is John Moxley and kylo'illy or Athena
- 23:42Speaker 8: versus Mina, I mean, I still think it was a
- 23:44Speaker 8: good night no matter what I think overall, I hear
- 23:48Speaker 8: people saying, like the greatest show of all time for
- 23:50Speaker 8: AW and I'm not quite there yet. But yeah, I
- 23:55Speaker 8: thought it was a fantastic show, and I thought it
- 23:56Speaker 8: was a great show for the energy that it needed.
- 23:59Speaker 6: Calsin, I got disagree with you about John Moxley and
- 24:02Speaker 6: Kyle O'Reilly because for me, that was one of the
- 24:06Speaker 6: better matches of the night. It was a match of
- 24:09Speaker 6: the knight contender. For me, the only gripe I had
- 24:13Speaker 6: with it is that it was the same stipulation as
- 24:17Speaker 6: what they did with Takesha, with the whole no time
- 24:20Speaker 6: limit thing. I would have kept the Continental rules in
- 24:25Speaker 6: place and the one stipulation I would have put on
- 24:30Speaker 6: it because Kyle had beaten Moxley twice via submission, just
- 24:37Speaker 6: making a submission match. But the match overall, I thought
- 24:42Speaker 6: they told an excellent story with them both going for
- 24:46Speaker 6: submissions and in the end Moxley just wore out Kyle
- 24:52Speaker 6: with the ankle and that proved to be the difference.
- 24:57Speaker 7: Yeah, very much like it was a kind of slow build,
- 25:01Speaker 7: more technical match, which I can understand that's not for everyone.
- 25:06Speaker 7: Like I love that style of wrestling, So for me
- 25:09Speaker 7: it was an amazing match. But I know, Helsin, that's
- 25:12Speaker 7: not really your favorite, so it makes sense you didn't
- 25:16Speaker 7: enjoy it as much I did.
- 25:19Speaker 4: But I want to stress that I stressed that I
- 25:22Speaker 4: did enjoy it. It's just that I thought the other matches,
- 25:25Speaker 4: of all the great matches, and I'm not counting the
- 25:29Speaker 4: Stadium Stampede because that was not really a match that
- 25:32Speaker 4: was just a showcase for comedy basically, but of all
- 25:38Speaker 4: the matches that one kind of I can't believe I'm
- 25:41Speaker 4: gonna do this. I really can't, but I'm gonna put
- 25:45Speaker 4: this up anyway. If this knucklenut like aw or nothing
- 25:51Speaker 4: everybody did, because JD from New York is a villain
- 25:57Speaker 4: the blank err and uh, and even he liked it.
- 26:05Speaker 4: It's funny because some people kind of trashed him on Reddit,
- 26:09Speaker 4: not on Reddit, for on Twitter for doing this, and
- 26:11Speaker 4: he's like, I can't win. Well, look when you run
- 26:13Speaker 4: your mouth and make yourself look like an idiot constantly,
- 26:18Speaker 4: when you finally say something that's nice about something that
- 26:21Speaker 4: everybody likes, you know in the fandom, you're gonna catch
- 26:26Speaker 4: out twice a day. Yeah, he's a broken clock that
- 26:32Speaker 4: the hands don't move at all and you can't see them.
- 26:37Speaker 4: But I do want to go ahead and move on
- 26:40Speaker 4: to uh, to the actual some of the matches specifically
- 26:46Speaker 4: on the show, and I want to start with this,
- 26:49Speaker 4: the absolute Angel MGF, who saved us from what could
- 26:54Speaker 4: have been the worst World Championship Raine ever, could have
- 27:00Speaker 4: easily exceeded John Moxley's reign had it not ended at
- 27:05Speaker 4: double or nothing, because I personally don't think I could
- 27:09Speaker 4: have stomached Darby Allen Wrestling every show from here until
- 27:15Speaker 4: what's the next pay per view forbidden Door. I couldn't
- 27:18Speaker 4: take it, And everybody that in this in this place
- 27:22Speaker 4: knows what I feel. But I want to know specifically
- 27:25Speaker 4: what you guys thought of the match and ultimately, did
- 27:28Speaker 4: you feel like the wheels fell off for Darby Allen
- 27:31Speaker 4: sufficiently that this was the end?
- 27:36Speaker 7: Yeah? I thought it was a really good match, and
- 27:39Speaker 7: they told a good story of Darby just being so
- 27:43Speaker 7: worn down and beaten and just fighting as hard as
- 27:47Speaker 7: he freaking could. But m JF everyone for ditch that
- 27:53Speaker 7: he is a damn good wrestler, Like they just think
- 27:58Speaker 7: about what he does on the mic and his talking,
- 28:00Speaker 7: but like he is really good inside the ring, and
- 28:04Speaker 7: you can't go against the guy like MJF when you're
- 28:08Speaker 7: at fifty percent like Darby was.
- 28:11Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to say a load of clown, he says,
- 28:13Speaker 4: after doing everyone in the chat XGW Wrestling or XGW Wrestling,
- 28:19Speaker 4: That is right. When you have a full card of
- 28:21Speaker 4: Maine Eveentors ain't so bad. That's the truth.
- 28:25Speaker 1: Hey, Chris, you and I are agreeing on a lot
- 28:27Speaker 1: of things today. I actually want to expand on your
- 28:30Speaker 1: comment on MJF. I'm going to give this dude the
- 28:32Speaker 1: whole entire bag. His aerial interview a couple about a
- 28:37Speaker 1: week and a half ago was absolutely insightful. He is
- 28:40Speaker 1: the complete package, poor wrestler. He's not the best wrestler
- 28:43Speaker 1: AW has on their roster, but in terms of everything else,
- 28:46Speaker 1: he's just the complete package. I would dare I say
- 28:49Speaker 1: he's probably one of the most well routed professional wrestlers
- 28:53Speaker 1: and professional wrestling today.
- 28:54Speaker 7: Barnunn, Oh, yeah, agree with that. I honestly think he's
- 28:59Speaker 7: one of the best well rounded. I could put them
- 29:03Speaker 7: up against, you know, quite a bit of like all
- 29:07Speaker 7: time greats.
- 29:08Speaker 6: Yeah, you would make a match with a Mott somehow Entertayday.
- 29:13Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm curious to know. I'm curious to know. Sorry, Rawlins,
- 29:17Speaker 4: but I'm curious to know. Rollins. You can answer this first,
- 29:21Speaker 4: but I want everybody to give a shot to answer this.
- 29:24Speaker 4: Did anybody think that MGF was going to lose this
- 29:27Speaker 4: match going out to double or nothing?
- 29:30Speaker 6: No, because they leaned so heavily into the bald stuff.
- 29:35Speaker 6: But Chris and Shane, I want to piggyback off of
- 29:38Speaker 6: what you both were just saying, because it's not just
- 29:44Speaker 6: the mic work that is so good with him, it's
- 29:49Speaker 6: the n ring storytelling, specifically with Darby, the fact that
- 29:56Speaker 6: they're feud and their entire stor relationship whatever word you
- 30:02Speaker 6: want to use, is centered around one of the most
- 30:07Speaker 6: basic moves even the wrestling book, the headlock takeover. They
- 30:13Speaker 6: have made it like such a figure that you want
- 30:18Speaker 6: to watch, like the fact, and that's a credit to
- 30:24Speaker 6: both m JF and Darby.
- 30:28Speaker 1: Rot simple idea, like an effective wrestler could make the
- 30:33Speaker 1: most insignificant move their greatest weapon. It's credit to both
- 30:38Speaker 1: of them.
- 30:38Speaker 6: I mean, can't what I'm saying.
- 30:41Speaker 1: I'm a Darby hater, always had been a Darby hater,
- 30:43Speaker 1: and I'm never going to stop being a Darby Heator hater.
- 30:45Speaker 1: That's just me. Don't ask why I could talk that
- 30:47Speaker 1: this will be a seven hour pod if that's the case.
- 30:49Speaker 1: But you know, and JFF is just good. You just
- 30:53Speaker 1: can't say he's not Darby. Allen is serviceable if you're
- 30:57Speaker 1: into his style of wrestling, which I love art style,
- 31:00Speaker 1: strong style. But I mean, everything he's doing is and
- 31:05Speaker 1: he proved it at the pay per views. A Bully clone.
- 31:08Speaker 7: Yeah, if I had to pick one wrestler to build
- 31:11Speaker 7: a company around right now.
- 31:14Speaker 4: Absolutely absolutely, He's got the right talent, he's got the
- 31:18Speaker 4: right age, he's got the right mindset. Look, and I
- 31:21Speaker 4: want to make one thing clear. I do not dislike
- 31:24Speaker 4: Darby Allen. I was thrilled that he became world champion.
- 31:28Speaker 4: I just don't want to see anybody at MGF, anybody
- 31:34Speaker 4: on any wrestling roster, wrestling the main event every single show.
- 31:40Speaker 4: This was the big problem I had with Orange Cassidy
- 31:43Speaker 4: and his international title run. People love that. Don't interrupt
- 31:49Speaker 4: me when you when I look at Orange Cassidy. I
- 31:54Speaker 4: went into that International time of title run loving Orange
- 31:58Speaker 4: Cassidy one of my all time favorite wrestlers. Bye, I
- 32:01Speaker 4: don't know. Not even halfway through that run, I was
- 32:05Speaker 4: sick and tired of seeing Orange Cassidy on every single show.
- 32:11Speaker 4: That is overdoing it. It is oversaturation. No wrestler should
- 32:15Speaker 4: have that. I am sorry. It does not work.
- 32:19Speaker 1: Wow, Rollins, you made Kelson you dad voice. Way to go, dude.
- 32:24Speaker 4: Yeah, you're welcome.
- 32:26Speaker 1: I love I love both of you.
- 32:27Speaker 4: Guys. Go to your room.
- 32:32Speaker 6: I'm already in by your room.
- 32:34Speaker 1: God, we'll go to the other one.
- 32:38Speaker 6: To the other.
- 32:39Speaker 4: Room, but not to us room.
- 32:44Speaker 1: Oh god? So where where where does Kelston? Where does
- 32:48Speaker 1: MGF go from here? Do you think he's got like.
- 32:56Speaker 7: Come out he needs? I have.
- 33:00Speaker 4: I said last week that I was convinced that hang
- 33:02Speaker 4: Man Addam Page was going to come out and shave
- 33:04Speaker 4: his head. I still think that this is going to
- 33:06Speaker 4: happen tomorrow night on Dynamite Collision, MJF is speaking, that
- 33:13Speaker 4: would be a perfect time for for Hangmanana Page. When
- 33:16Speaker 4: you asked who, what's going to happen? Shane, that's what
- 33:24Speaker 4: I think is that happened. Uh, our friend, our good friend,
- 33:27Speaker 4: Wolf is in the chat and he said, I love
- 33:29Speaker 4: that Orange Cassidy run. The story was up becoming The
- 33:33Speaker 4: story was about becoming a workhorse through the fatigue, and
- 33:36Speaker 4: everyone wants to work with him. Everyone could I agree
- 33:41Speaker 4: everything with the story. You hit hit the dail on
- 33:43Speaker 4: the head on with the story, but I got the fatigue.
- 33:48Speaker 4: You know. I'm sorry. Darby Allen's run was reminding me
- 33:53Speaker 4: way too much of Orange Orange Cassidy's run. And I
- 33:58Speaker 4: did watch the last two Darby Allen matches because they
- 34:00Speaker 4: were pointless to me. To me, they were hurting the
- 34:03Speaker 4: wrestlers that he was wrestling against. At least with Orange
- 34:07Speaker 4: Cassidy's run, he was wrestling against mid carters. Darby Allen's
- 34:13Speaker 4: wrestling against people who had a legitimate shot. For the
- 34:16Speaker 4: most part, a legitimate shot is world champion material.
- 34:21Speaker 7: Can I ask this sort of weird question, no, go ahead,
- 34:29Speaker 7: Have you watched much anime?
- 34:32Speaker 5: No?
- 34:33Speaker 7: Okay, See, I think that might be kind of where
- 34:38Speaker 7: this fundamental difference of the whole not liking the fighting
- 34:42Speaker 7: champion thing comes from, because, like I had, I did,
- 34:46Speaker 7: I've watched a lot of animate and especially like the
- 34:49Speaker 7: battle anime type, so I love seeing just crazy fights
- 34:54Speaker 7: sometimes just for the sake of crazy fights.
- 34:59Speaker 4: But Chris, look at the because I don't want to
- 35:01Speaker 4: talk about anime on this podcast, but I do appreciate
- 35:04Speaker 4: a fighting champion. A fighting champion is somebody that wrestles
- 35:08Speaker 4: for the championship against legic contenders, which Darby Allen did.
- 35:13Speaker 4: But he was doing it every week, which was pointless.
- 35:17Speaker 4: It was absolutely pointless, people said, But he had to
- 35:20Speaker 4: wrestle Untie the wheels came off, so that you know,
- 35:23Speaker 4: he was at a disadvantage when he went into this
- 35:26Speaker 4: into the bout with and Jeff Darby. Allen's a small guy.
- 35:30Speaker 4: He's always at a disadvantage. There's only like a couple
- 35:34Speaker 4: of wrestlers, Sir Petico and John Cruise to be specific,
- 35:38Speaker 4: law who's smaller than Darby Allen. Every other man man
- 35:42Speaker 4: and some of the women on in theaw roster are
- 35:45Speaker 4: all bigger than Darby. I'm sorry, it just did not
- 35:52Speaker 4: make any sense. He's at a disadvantage to begin with.
- 35:55Speaker 7: Yeah, but who doesn't love an underdog like that's what
- 35:59Speaker 7: he is? A body?
- 36:04Speaker 4: I understand that. But look when you have somebody who
- 36:07Speaker 4: throws their body all over the place on Wednesday night
- 36:11Speaker 4: and then can come out on sun on Saturday night
- 36:14Speaker 4: and wrestle basically like nothing happened, That's that runs the
- 36:19Speaker 4: story to me. I do want to go back to
- 36:22Speaker 4: the chat. I want to go back to the chat
- 36:24Speaker 4: real quick, because the chat is going going strong. Clown said,
- 36:29Speaker 4: I do think there needs to be a better long
- 36:31Speaker 4: term planning when it comes to the blowoff matches or
- 36:36Speaker 4: for a long term blood feuds happening in commission towns
- 36:39Speaker 4: where you can't bleed or go into the crowd. Conrad said, Uh,
- 36:45Speaker 4: it's all opinion, and you know what opinions are like,
- 36:48Speaker 4: but I enjoy hearing everyone's perspective. Uh XGW Wrestling says
- 36:54Speaker 4: true clown, uh wolf that says, I just want good story.
- 36:59Speaker 4: Part of what makes wrestling great as finding new ways
- 37:03Speaker 4: to tell the same story we all know and love. Well,
- 37:07Speaker 4: if I agree with you one hundred percent, the Darby
- 37:09Speaker 4: Allen way was the same as the Orange cast away,
- 37:13Speaker 4: only worse.
- 37:14Speaker 6: Hey, Chris didn't. Ruth mentioned on Dynamite Slash Collition last
- 37:21Speaker 6: week that he wanted to challenge the winner of MJF
- 37:26Speaker 6: Darby for the title on this week's episode.
- 37:30Speaker 7: Well, he said Darby Allen. He didn't specifically say the
- 37:34Speaker 7: winner because he knows mj im im going to expect
- 37:37Speaker 7: that challenge.
- 37:39Speaker 4: Yeah, this is right. This was specifically addressed at Darby.
- 37:44Speaker 4: So yeah, if Darby had won, we would have seen
- 37:47Speaker 4: Darby versus Ruche. I'm sure what MGF comes out tomorrow,
- 37:52Speaker 4: Maybe Ruth comes out and challenges him.
- 37:53Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I can definitely say that happen.
- 37:56Speaker 6: Do you think we still end up getting that Rus
- 37:58Speaker 6: versus Darby Allen match at some point?
- 38:01Speaker 7: Though? I think at some point it will happen, But
- 38:04Speaker 7: I don't see it happening in the relative future, right
- 38:10Speaker 7: in the next couple of months or so.
- 38:12Speaker 4: Right, I don't think it's a priority at all. Ruce
- 38:14Speaker 4: versus MGF would be bored of a priority.
- 38:17Speaker 6: Didn't they do that recon Like when MJF came back
- 38:21Speaker 6: or something? They did that TV program between MJF and Rush.
- 38:27Speaker 4: I don't remember, to be honest with you, No disrespect
- 38:31Speaker 4: to Bruce or MGF, but I just don't remember it.
- 38:34Speaker 6: It was like MJF had just made his comeback and
- 38:38Speaker 6: they did a program between them. I think they had
- 38:41Speaker 6: a match to open Dynamite and was commercial free. I
- 38:46Speaker 6: want to say they did.
- 38:48Speaker 4: You know Rollins the match, you know instead of Rush.
- 38:53Speaker 4: I think the match that you may see for Darby
- 38:57Speaker 4: Allen is going to be the match between dark be
- 39:00Speaker 4: On and Kevin Knight.
- 39:01Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 39:01Speaker 2: I had a question about that, go for it, Okay.
- 39:06Speaker 2: So Kevin Knight did what he did and now he
- 39:09Speaker 2: looks like he may be a heel. How is that
- 39:13Speaker 2: going to affect his relationship with Speedball? What do you
- 39:18Speaker 2: all think it's going to happen there?
- 39:20Speaker 7: Well?
- 39:20Speaker 4: Did you see the interview backstage? Not really an interviewed?
- 39:23Speaker 4: Not really of it yet either, it was just kind
- 39:24Speaker 4: of a reaction from Speedlog. No, he was not happy,
- 39:31Speaker 4: to put it mildly.
- 39:36Speaker 5: El Ell, you know what I'm seeing because I watched
- 39:44Speaker 5: Speedball's blog and he was mad as hell and he
- 39:48Speaker 5: was speechless, speechless, speechless. I want to see Kevin Knight
- 39:53Speaker 5: and Speedball Mike Bailey in Montreal.
- 39:56Speaker 2: I would love to see that.
- 39:58Speaker 4: Yeah, that was all.
- 40:01Speaker 5: Speedball did. Did a tweet promoting the promoting the show
- 40:06Speaker 5: in Montreal, and he said, I'm trying to figure it
- 40:11Speaker 5: out that he wants everybody that pays good ticket to
- 40:17Speaker 5: see to see a good wrestling show. And I'm crossing
- 40:21Speaker 5: my fingers that I would see Speedball Mike Bailey again.
- 40:25Speaker 5: That would be my third time in a year that
- 40:28Speaker 5: I'm seeing Speedball live and I can't wait. Perfect place,
- 40:34Speaker 5: especially in Montreal. You will see the chance, you will,
- 40:38Speaker 5: you will hear it.
- 40:39Speaker 4: Yeah, it's that's definitely a good match to have at a
- 40:42Speaker 4: pay per view, that's for sure.
- 40:44Speaker 6: See. To me, it feels like Kevin Knight's get a
- 40:47Speaker 6: team up with a certain mogul because if you remember
- 40:54Speaker 6: a couple what was it a couple months backs, were
- 40:58Speaker 6: basically said to have a Knight if you want to
- 41:01Speaker 6: get to the top of the mountain, you can't be
- 41:05Speaker 6: a good guy. Good guys don't make it to the
- 41:09Speaker 6: top around here.
- 41:12Speaker 4: Honestly, I'm gonna say this Rollins, and I don't know
- 41:16Speaker 4: if anybody agree with me, but it seems like anytime
- 41:19Speaker 4: that there's a black wrestler that changes a little bit
- 41:22Speaker 4: of their allegiance, I guess is the best way to
- 41:26Speaker 4: put it, there's always somebody to say, oh, he should
- 41:28Speaker 4: be in the Hurt Syndicate. I don't want to see
- 41:31Speaker 4: Kevin Knight and the Hurt Syndicate, not right now.
- 41:36Speaker 7: Or technically faces.
- 41:37Speaker 4: Yeah, they they definitely are. How about Bobby Lashley having
- 41:41Speaker 4: the best time of his life. He was great, He
- 41:46Speaker 4: had a blast. It was fun watching him have fun. Yeah,
- 41:51Speaker 4: you could tell he had fun.
- 41:53Speaker 6: Just to know. I didn't say anything about Kevin Knight
- 41:56Speaker 6: joining the Hurt Syndicate. I said he teams up with
- 41:59Speaker 6: Swell No.
- 41:59Speaker 4: No, I was just saying that is a broad thing.
- 42:01Speaker 4: If you go on social media, it's like, and it's
- 42:05Speaker 4: the same with Kevin Knight as it is with any
- 42:07Speaker 4: black wrestler who changes allegiance or looks like they're changing allegiance.
- 42:12Speaker 4: They immediately say, oh, he should go to the Hurt Syndicate,
- 42:15Speaker 4: to the point where MVP said, just because they're black
- 42:18Speaker 4: doesn't mean they're coming to the Hurt Syndicate. I mean
- 42:20Speaker 4: he literally said that, you know, yeah, Hurt Syndicate is
- 42:24Speaker 4: recruiting a fourth member, but MVP pretty much said that
- 42:28Speaker 4: the member doesn't have to be black, and you know,
- 42:33Speaker 4: maybe good maybe it'll be somebody like Willow Nightingale.
- 42:39Speaker 6: I would love to see Kevin Knight and Swear Strickland
- 42:42Speaker 6: together though. I think that would be absolutely fantastic. I'm
- 42:48Speaker 6: not saying like, have them become the tag team champions,
- 42:52Speaker 6: but if you just have them together, good Lord, that
- 42:58Speaker 6: would be us see television. To me, I would absolutely
- 43:05Speaker 6: love that Swerve has already gotten to the top of
- 43:08Speaker 6: the mountain and he could be like the mentor to
- 43:13Speaker 6: Kevin Knight. I would love it.
- 43:16Speaker 4: Yeah, that I wouldn't. I wouldn't mind that at all.
- 43:18Speaker 4: I wouldn't mind Kevin Knight being in the Hurt Syndicate either.
- 43:23Speaker 4: It's just one of those things that my point was
- 43:25Speaker 4: is that just because you're black and you're out there
- 43:28Speaker 4: doesn't mean you need to be in the Hurt syndicate,
- 43:30Speaker 4: because that's something that's been happening on the social media
- 43:34Speaker 4: a lot, you know, and it's the truth to the
- 43:36Speaker 4: point where MVP actually addressed it.
- 43:39Speaker 1: I gotta say, people, Chris christ weare probably for like
- 43:45Speaker 1: the fifth time, we're probably on the same page. It's
- 43:48Speaker 1: like in w W it's an old Vincent mcvince mcman thing.
- 43:51Speaker 1: He puts the Latinos with Latinos, the Japanese people at
- 43:53Speaker 1: the Japanese people.
- 43:54Speaker 4: I don't want.
- 43:55Speaker 1: To say the blacks at the blacks. I just said it,
- 43:57Speaker 1: but I mean, I mean, that's just how wrestling was
- 44:00Speaker 1: booked for so long. And I hate to say it,
- 44:01Speaker 1: but it's just unfortunately, just the nature of the game.
- 44:05Speaker 7: Yeah, I was gonna say, it's like when people were
- 44:07Speaker 7: always like, oh, it's a new Black groups, they're the
- 44:09Speaker 7: new nation of domination. Hey or hey, they're similar.
- 44:15Speaker 1: We got a new l f I or l w O.
- 44:18Speaker 1: We got a new we got a new they even
- 44:21Speaker 1: took the they even put the hey, they even put
- 44:24Speaker 1: the vikings together. Come on, now, go.
- 44:26Speaker 4: Ahead, Conrad, let's let's hear what you have to say.
- 44:29Speaker 8: No, No, I was just gonna I wrote in the
- 44:30Speaker 8: chat already people used to do the same thing. Anytime
- 44:32Speaker 8: a wrestler would be he should join the nation of domination.
- 44:35Speaker 8: Why can't Owen Heart join the Nation of domination. It's fine,
- 44:39Speaker 8: it's clear and try to do stuff differently. That's what
- 44:44Speaker 8: I like about the down callis family. It's just a
- 44:46Speaker 8: group of different people.
- 44:47Speaker 1: Or yeah, I mean it's important to have diversity everywhere.
- 44:53Speaker 4: True True used Media says her Schindikett isn't really heal.
- 44:57Speaker 4: Wolf says Aminada would fit did so well with the
- 45:01Speaker 4: hurt said to get I agree, but there's several other
- 45:03Speaker 4: women that would fit in with the Hurts indicate as well.
- 45:06Speaker 4: True Muse Media said, we're naming black wrestlers. It's hard
- 45:09Speaker 4: to get out of that mindset. It really is. It's
- 45:11Speaker 4: it's a proven fact, it really is. I do want
- 45:15Speaker 4: to move on, though, because we've got quite a bit
- 45:18Speaker 4: still to talk about. I want to talk about the
- 45:22Speaker 4: AAW Women's Champion and if I can find the graphic
- 45:25Speaker 4: that would be wonderful. Tecla and the MVP of Double
- 45:32Speaker 4: or Nothing was by far Techla's push up. Rob did
- 45:34Speaker 4: a great job. I don't know how to help. I
- 45:37Speaker 4: swear to God, I was holding my breath at times,
- 45:40Speaker 4: going please God, don't let this be an R rated show,
- 45:43Speaker 4: you know, because it was wardrobe malfunction was about to happen.
- 45:47Speaker 4: Good job, Ra. Did anybody see, by the way, kind
- 45:51Speaker 4: of off topic, did anybody see Techla posing with her mother?
- 45:56Speaker 4: If you go on Techla's Instagram, there's pictures and there's
- 45:59Speaker 4: picture elsewhere both heard or mother or mother is you know,
- 46:02Speaker 4: obviously older, not old, but older than Tecla, and they're
- 46:08Speaker 4: both standing like shoulder to shoulder, flipping the bird like
- 46:10Speaker 4: mom like daughter. You know, they're flipping off the camera
- 46:14Speaker 4: or whoever is there, you know, but you know, look,
- 46:17Speaker 4: Techla won this match. He's on quite a run. The
- 46:20Speaker 4: question is, you know we're gonna be talking about the
- 46:25Speaker 4: owen Hart. You know that's for all in, But we've
- 46:29Speaker 4: got other stuff going. We got quite a while before
- 46:32Speaker 4: all in. So what's next for Tecla tech Techla? Jess
- 46:37Speaker 4: you may be say it, yeah, but what's next for
- 46:41Speaker 4: Tecla heading into the time, the weeks whatever before all in?
- 46:48Speaker 4: Anybody have any ideas?
- 46:50Speaker 7: Honestly, I got nothing, and that's it feels weird. I
- 46:56Speaker 7: feel like she's just kind of waiting for whoever wins
- 47:00Speaker 7: the Owen.
- 47:02Speaker 4: Well, I do have something, but I want to hear
- 47:05Speaker 4: if anybody else.
- 47:05Speaker 6: Says she, I sorry.
- 47:11Speaker 5: She She dodges a question about Mercedes in a in
- 47:18Speaker 5: a podcast somewhere that she did like a probably maybe
- 47:22Speaker 5: a week or two ago. She's teasing a match with Mercedes.
- 47:26Speaker 5: So I'm guessing if we're talking about the Owen, that
- 47:30Speaker 5: the wild card is Mercedes and she wins it for
- 47:33Speaker 5: the second year in a row, which would be fantastic
- 47:36Speaker 5: because she's my pick. I would I would love to
- 47:40Speaker 5: see her with tech Lime. I mean, oh, it would
- 47:43Speaker 5: be fantastic.
- 47:44Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I agree with you, Bellerie, but I don't
- 47:48Speaker 4: think it's going to happen. Anybody else have any ideas.
- 47:52Speaker 4: I think Rollins you were going to say something.
- 47:56Speaker 6: Yeah, Techless Tyringe has been good but not great. It's
- 48:01Speaker 6: clear they were gonna do Tony Storm as like the
- 48:05Speaker 6: big feud, but since that's not happening, it feels like
- 48:11Speaker 6: they're just trying to find something for her. That's why
- 48:15Speaker 6: I think this match even happened at double or nothing.
- 48:19Speaker 6: So I can't quite get behind Teca right now, just
- 48:25Speaker 6: because it feels like she's missing that true dance partner.
- 48:31Speaker 6: But I think we will get that at all in. However,
- 48:35Speaker 6: it will not be Mercedes. It's gonna be the falling Goddess,
- 48:40Speaker 6: the forever ro Oh Women's Champion, Athena.
- 48:46Speaker 4: Before all in or at all in, at all in. Okay,
- 48:49Speaker 4: but we got two months before all in. We're not
- 48:52Speaker 4: gonna wait. Tech was not gonna sit on her hands.
- 48:55Speaker 4: We got for the door coming up before all in.
- 48:59Speaker 4: So I mean, there's got to be something to me.
- 49:01Speaker 4: Let me tell you what my idea is. Everybody knows
- 49:04Speaker 4: by now that Tecla got fired from stardom. Why did
- 49:08Speaker 4: she get fired from stardom? Because when she had a
- 49:12Speaker 4: match against Sayaka Carra at Russell Quingdam last year, if
- 49:20Speaker 4: it was a stipulation match, if Techla lost, she had
- 49:24Speaker 4: to join Cosmic Angels. Now, Techla's her gimmick was the
- 49:31Speaker 4: idol killer. She was going after it a cute, squeaky
- 49:34Speaker 4: voiced girls in uh in the uh in, the in
- 49:42Speaker 4: in stardom and a Conrad I see your hand really raised.
- 49:45Speaker 4: I'll get to you in a second. But the other
- 49:48Speaker 4: stipulation was that if Tecla won the match, she would
- 49:52Speaker 4: get a match with Stardom president Taro Taro Acatta. Tecla
- 49:57Speaker 4: lost the match to Sayaka Carrara. Then she attacked Tero
- 50:02Speaker 4: Okatta and that led to her she refused to join
- 50:04Speaker 4: Cosmic Angels, and that led Tero Okatta to fire Techla.
- 50:11Speaker 4: They've got addit gone and they've gone at it. There
- 50:14Speaker 4: was a like a Tony Kahan Techla Tero Cotta Twitter
- 50:19Speaker 4: war going on for a second where Techla was going
- 50:23Speaker 4: after both Tero Cotta and Tony Khan was trying to
- 50:26Speaker 4: step in to stop it. It was great. Uh. And
- 50:29Speaker 4: that at American Dream twenty twenty six, which just happened
- 50:32Speaker 4: like a month ago, Techla threatened to Tero Cotta. She
- 50:36Speaker 4: showed up, snuck up behind Tero Cotta and threatens This
- 50:40Speaker 4: story is not over. The other thing is is that
- 50:42Speaker 4: who is the who is the champion, the world champion
- 50:46Speaker 4: right now and start them? It's not Saya Kamatani, It's
- 50:50Speaker 4: Sayaka Karara, the woman who got Techla fired. It's a
- 50:54Speaker 4: ready made match for Forbidden Door, a rematch between the
- 50:59Speaker 4: world champion to start them and the world champion of
- 51:03Speaker 4: a w Techler versus sayakak Go ahead, Conrad I guess
- 51:09Speaker 4: he's not there. He must be having I think he's
- 51:12Speaker 4: having technical issues. But does anybody else have any ideas
- 51:16Speaker 4: with technic? I was, I don't want to go.
- 51:23Speaker 7: I don't want to look.
- 51:24Speaker 4: I don't want to look forward to it all in
- 51:26Speaker 4: because like I said, it's two months away. We got
- 51:28Speaker 4: Forbid Door before that.
- 51:29Speaker 7: It's definitely a good idea for Forbidden Door and would
- 51:32Speaker 7: make sense and you can even do the whole you know,
- 51:35Speaker 7: sticulation like Techla doesn't maybe doesn't want to have them,
- 51:39Speaker 7: he doesn't care about that anymore, and left something is
- 51:43Speaker 7: on the line. But Chris, she just.
- 51:48Speaker 4: Went in to Startom last month and and threatened ter Ocnna,
- 51:54Speaker 4: So obviously still it's still on her mind. Obviously she
- 51:57Speaker 4: spent she's been talking on a w TV about her
- 52:02Speaker 4: getting fired or not getting fired from Stardom.
- 52:05Speaker 7: Well, she doesn't care about the match with Cara unless
- 52:10Speaker 7: there's something on the line. So she says, if she wins,
- 52:14Speaker 7: she gets five minutes with Terror. That's what I'm saying.
- 52:18Speaker 7: That's the easy way to make it and not have
- 52:21Speaker 7: the titles on the line.
- 52:23Speaker 4: Right. I do think that in that match, if they
- 52:26Speaker 4: do run that match at Forbid Door definitely absolutely does
- 52:30Speaker 4: not need to be a world title match, because we
- 52:33Speaker 4: all know if it's a world title match, Like if
- 52:35Speaker 4: Techla puts her title on the line, Carra doesn't necessarily
- 52:39Speaker 4: have to put her title online, but the Techla puts
- 52:41Speaker 4: her title online, it's a foregone conclusion. There's no way
- 52:44Speaker 4: the tech was gonna lose the title.
- 52:47Speaker 7: Yeah, can I jump? So that gives you a speculation
- 52:51Speaker 7: with the non title, Yeah, go.
- 52:53Speaker 4: Ahead, Valanie.
- 52:54Speaker 5: I'm not familiar with stardom, like I said a few
- 52:56Speaker 5: weeks back, but if the other girl that you you know,
- 53:02Speaker 5: Nelson put the title on the line, why not why
- 53:06Speaker 5: not having Tekla beat her for both titles and then say,
- 53:12Speaker 5: you know she she loves saying bitches and and and
- 53:17Speaker 5: she's the president of stardom and say come come, come
- 53:22Speaker 5: get me. If you want me to go to stardom,
- 53:25Speaker 5: pay me big box and I will go and I
- 53:27Speaker 5: will defend.
- 53:28Speaker 4: Well, she aspired from stardom, so she's not invited back.
- 53:32Speaker 4: The problem with what you're putting the title on the line, Valerie,
- 53:36Speaker 4: is that when an ae W title is on the
- 53:40Speaker 4: line in Forbidden Door, the winner in the match, it's
- 53:43Speaker 4: before gone conclusion. There is no way at AW Star
- 53:47Speaker 4: is going to lose at AW title to anybody from Japan.
- 53:50Speaker 4: There's just no way. It's not gonna happen. That's why
- 53:54Speaker 4: I am not a fan of Forbidden Door, because this
- 53:56Speaker 4: is a glorified exhibition matches, and I don't like do
- 54:00Speaker 4: japan Pro Wrestling's wrestling style. I do like the women's
- 54:04Speaker 4: Japanese the Joshi style, but you know, to me, you know,
- 54:08Speaker 4: and again this is just my opinion, and I respect
- 54:10Speaker 4: everybody else's opinion. I do not enjoy Japanese wrestling, Japanese
- 54:15Speaker 4: men's wrestling to some extent. I do enjoy some of
- 54:19Speaker 4: the matches and when you got like Kenny Omega and
- 54:23Speaker 4: Kazutsko O Kata and stuff like that, but like when
- 54:26Speaker 4: you had it forbidden To or Nigel McGinnis and Zach Saber,
- 54:29Speaker 4: I have never seen a Zach Saber Junior match that
- 54:32Speaker 4: I didn't fall asleep at some point during the match.
- 54:34Speaker 4: Because his matches, his matches are from my I don't
- 54:40Speaker 4: enjoy Chris even alluded to this earlier. I don't enjoy
- 54:43Speaker 4: technical wrestling. I never did and I never will. I
- 54:46Speaker 4: don't like the pure style. I don't like technical wrestling.
- 54:51Speaker 4: Brian Danielson, who did he didn't Brian Danielson take on
- 54:55Speaker 4: Zachabon as well. Yeah, it was unwatched. I I zone out.
- 55:01Speaker 4: I just cannot get into it. I just don't I
- 55:05Speaker 4: and I and I respect that, I just don't like it.
- 55:08Speaker 4: It's just not my style. I want to see action.
- 55:11Speaker 4: I don't want to see finger holds. Seriously, that was
- 55:14Speaker 4: the that was that was the big That was the
- 55:16Speaker 4: big moment last year Forbidden Door, Zach Saber Junior, Digel
- 55:20Speaker 4: McGinnis in a terrifying finger hold? Am I wrong? Am
- 55:25Speaker 4: I wrong? I don't want to see that. That's not
- 55:28Speaker 4: the big move for tonight. I'm sorry.
- 55:31Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 55:34Speaker 4: Yeah. Like if you gave me a free ticket to
- 55:37Speaker 4: go see a new Japan pay per view in my
- 55:42Speaker 4: you know, ten minutes from my house, I would actually
- 55:45Speaker 4: probably not go because I just wouldn't enjoy it. I
- 55:47Speaker 4: would enjoy myself. I would not enjoy myself. I just
- 55:50Speaker 4: don't enjoy that style of wrestling. Again, I respect the
- 55:53Speaker 4: people who do it's that's not not saying I hate
- 55:56Speaker 4: it and I don't, you know whatever, I it's just
- 55:59Speaker 4: not my thing, you know, I, you know, I can't.
- 56:06Speaker 4: It's like binge watching Dalton Abby to me, which I
- 56:10Speaker 4: would never do. You know, It's just that's that's the
- 56:14Speaker 4: true description. But I mean that I respect the wrestlers.
- 56:20Speaker 4: I just don't enjoy the red. That's it. I just
- 56:21Speaker 4: don't enjoy the style of wrestling, that's all. I'm clear.
- 56:24Speaker 4: I am absolutely not saying that they suck, you.
- 56:28Speaker 9: Know, so yeah, you know, but I do enjoy, like,
- 56:32Speaker 9: you know, the Gape kids, the Findley's, you know, the
- 56:37Speaker 9: dogs kind of thing.
- 56:39Speaker 4: I do enjoy that. But when you get just your
- 56:41Speaker 4: basic Japanese male wrestlers, I mean, the women run roughshot.
- 56:47Speaker 4: I mean they can't hold the candle to the women
- 56:49Speaker 4: as far as entertainment, as far as I'm concerned, that's
- 56:52Speaker 4: you know, that's just my opinion. But does anybody else
- 56:54Speaker 4: have any idea of what's next for Tecla Mi Baker?
- 57:02Speaker 1: Is the wildcard?
- 57:04Speaker 4: We're gonna get to that. We're gonna get to the
- 57:06Speaker 4: wildcard pretty soon. As a matter of fact, let's uh what,
- 57:09Speaker 4: let me let me find that. I am just all
- 57:12Speaker 4: thumbs today. Let's go to the wildcard, the wildcard, the
- 57:17Speaker 4: Owen Hart. Of course, we have that wildcard who's gonna
- 57:20Speaker 4: be the wildcard? Because the who they would be taking
- 57:25Speaker 4: Willow's place, and Willow was wrestling who Alex windsor.
- 57:29Speaker 7: Windsor Yeah windsor so Shane.
- 57:36Speaker 4: You think it's gonna be Britt Baker.
- 57:38Speaker 1: No, it's not gonna be. He's gonna be Mercedes Mode. No, no,
- 57:43Speaker 1: don't say hell no. Man, I I I listen. I
- 57:46Speaker 1: We used to have this guy in this pod name
- 57:47Speaker 1: Elf Sutton. I love to death. He's still active in
- 57:49Speaker 1: the server. Biggest Britt Baker hater in the world. A
- 57:52Speaker 1: lot of us have been Britt Baker haters because there
- 57:54Speaker 1: is some validity for her teeth gate keeping the women's
- 57:57Speaker 1: locker room at a W and obviously issues behind the
- 58:00Speaker 1: scenes with some bigger talents. But honestly, like it's been
- 58:04Speaker 1: too long and if she and she's she's in limbo
- 58:07Speaker 1: right now, and I get to that she has a
- 58:09Speaker 1: whole ass other job as a dentist and she doesn't
- 58:11Speaker 1: need a W But like, I don't know, man, give
- 58:14Speaker 1: her her day in court. At least give her the
- 58:15Speaker 1: opportunity to come back and do something.
- 58:18Speaker 5: She's got a word and she screwed it, screw complete.
- 58:24Speaker 4: But yeah, she did.
- 58:27Speaker 1: She didn't have chemistry. You cannot put that on her.
- 58:29Speaker 1: Mercedes was at the time, Mercedes wasn't having great matches.
- 58:33Speaker 1: She was not what she was bringing so many eyes
- 58:36Speaker 1: into the division. Mercedes coming into AW is fantastic.
- 58:39Speaker 4: She has.
- 58:39Speaker 1: She literally rehelped rebuild that locker room. But like, are
- 58:43Speaker 1: you guys gonna seriously take it away from Britt that
- 58:47Speaker 1: that she didn't carry it herself for at least the
- 58:50Speaker 1: first two years that she wasn't on screen?
- 58:51Speaker 6: Come on, now, when Britt was the world champion, she
- 58:56Speaker 6: had excellent matchis Are you kidding me?
- 58:59Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 58:59Speaker 6: I mean, I'm yeah a lot.
- 59:04Speaker 4: But rawlins. I think what you have to keep in mind, though,
- 59:07Speaker 4: is that the women's division when Britt Baker was AW
- 59:11Speaker 4: World Champion. And I'm asking you the you you this specifically,
- 59:15Speaker 4: would you agree that the women's division now is much more,
- 59:21Speaker 4: much better, more accomplished than it was when Britt Baker
- 59:24Speaker 4: was champion?
- 59:25Speaker 7: Yes?
- 59:26Speaker 6: But why why are we like taking away from what
- 59:30Speaker 6: Brit did?
- 59:32Speaker 4: No, I'm not saying that. I absolutely do believe that
- 59:36Speaker 4: Britt Baker was the right woman at the right place
- 59:40Speaker 4: at the right time in AW. Back in you know,
- 59:43Speaker 4: the early part of the twenty twenties. She's not at
- 59:46Speaker 4: that place right now. And Shane, by the way, I've
- 59:50Speaker 4: also heard reports. I don't know how you are, but
- 59:52Speaker 4: brit Baker is no longer a practicing dentist, at least
- 59:55Speaker 4: not full times. He's just living off her a nice
- 1:00:00Speaker 4: uh AW contract.
- 1:00:01Speaker 1: Money, collecting a paycheck and not working like everybody else
- 1:00:05Speaker 1: in a w.
- 1:00:10Speaker 6: Sorry, Shane, I've cald Shane, I've told you this, and
- 1:00:15Speaker 6: I think I've said it on this podcast. I liked,
- 1:00:19Speaker 6: I really liked the feud between Britt Baker and Mercedes Monette,
- 1:00:24Speaker 6: leaning up to all in the way they were one
- 1:00:27Speaker 6: upping each other, and I thought the promos battles they
- 1:00:32Speaker 6: had were fantastic. Did the match live up to the
- 1:00:37Speaker 6: feud itself. No, it did not, I will admit that.
- 1:00:42Speaker 6: But I thought the actual feud leading up to the
- 1:00:47Speaker 6: match was great. You can't take that away from either
- 1:00:52Speaker 6: one of that.
- 1:00:52Speaker 1: Hold On, yeah, yeah, of Chris, hold On, hold on, now,
- 1:00:57Speaker 1: I look, these two women did not have working chemistry
- 1:01:01Speaker 1: together other than occasionally behind a microphone. If you remember
- 1:01:04Speaker 1: the contract signing, it was weird. It was not not weird.
- 1:01:08Speaker 1: It just didn't seem like these two women were given
- 1:01:11Speaker 1: enough time to let the bun coke in the oven
- 1:01:13Speaker 1: for lack of better expression. But in terms of Britt Baker,
- 1:01:16Speaker 1: I'm a Cleveland Browns fan. She's a Pittsburgh Steeler. For
- 1:01:19Speaker 1: all intents and purposes, I should loathe her existence, and
- 1:01:21Speaker 1: I do for the most part. To be honest, I
- 1:01:23Speaker 1: don't think that I I Kelseon, I agree with you.
- 1:01:26Speaker 1: Right now might not be her time, but I believe
- 1:01:28Speaker 1: that she deserves her day in court. That's all I'm saying.
- 1:01:31Speaker 4: Well, I want to kind of go in a different
- 1:01:33Speaker 4: direction right now because the topic is who is going
- 1:01:38Speaker 4: to be the wildcard in the owen Hart Cup Tournament.
- 1:01:42Speaker 4: We spent the last ten minutes talking about somebody that
- 1:01:44Speaker 4: we all agree is not going to be the wildcard
- 1:01:46Speaker 4: in the owen Heart Tournament. We have clown saying Ruby,
- 1:01:53Speaker 4: soho if it's a signed talent, unsigned talent SDL, her
- 1:01:58Speaker 4: husband is already there. Conrad says, I have a different name,
- 1:02:05Speaker 4: but he didn't say what the name was, and UH,
- 1:02:08Speaker 4: go for it.
- 1:02:11Speaker 8: No, I was just gonna say, I think that it
- 1:02:12Speaker 8: could be a Dakota Kai. I think that she's been
- 1:02:15Speaker 8: gone for a little bit of time, and I think
- 1:02:17Speaker 8: she's going by the name Charlie. I could see them
- 1:02:20Speaker 8: giving her a try out here.
- 1:02:22Speaker 4: Sure about Kyrie saying I don't no, no, she's not
- 1:02:28Speaker 4: going to be I had it written down. I believe
- 1:02:31Speaker 4: it's July twenty third, is when her ninety is up.
- 1:02:36Speaker 4: All in, Yeah, all in is a possibility forbidden door.
- 1:02:39Speaker 7: No, but I think it'd definitely be all in the.
- 1:02:46Speaker 4: Valerie.
- 1:02:47Speaker 5: I'm gonna say to Tsha's wife, ki Yuki Saka, you
- 1:02:52Speaker 5: don't what.
- 1:02:54Speaker 4: You know what you look at wild Cards, Well, look
- 1:02:58Speaker 4: back at the recent his of Wildcards, the recent history.
- 1:03:01Speaker 4: We've had a few surprises Wildcards. But we've all speculated,
- 1:03:09Speaker 4: and there's been speculation on social media it's going to
- 1:03:11Speaker 4: be this name, that name, and it never pans out.
- 1:03:14Speaker 4: It's somebody that's already there, maybe somebody who's coming back
- 1:03:18Speaker 4: from a very short injury. But I fully expect it
- 1:03:22Speaker 4: to be the wild card to be somebody that's already there.
- 1:03:25Speaker 4: Could be like Queen Aminada, Zeta Steel, somebody like that.
- 1:03:32Speaker 4: I do believe it's going to be somebody like that.
- 1:03:36Speaker 7: I feel like it needs to be Mercedes, just because
- 1:03:39Speaker 7: they've already the downs Toby Storm, and now they've lost
- 1:03:42Speaker 7: Willow like they need Mercedes to come back, like they
- 1:03:47Speaker 7: need that big name.
- 1:03:49Speaker 8: I can see Mercedes becoming champion in between two depends
- 1:03:54Speaker 8: on what they want to do. I could definitely see
- 1:03:56Speaker 8: it happening, though.
- 1:03:57Speaker 5: Well, don't forget there's the TBAs title to be to
- 1:04:00Speaker 5: be decided.
- 1:04:01Speaker 4: Yeah, we're we're going to talk about that next as
- 1:04:05Speaker 4: a matter of fact, But does anybody else have any
- 1:04:08Speaker 4: wildcards that they have in mind? I don't think it's
- 1:04:11Speaker 4: going to be any of the Japanese wrestlers, simply because
- 1:04:16Speaker 4: we already have two Japanese wrestlers in the Owen and
- 1:04:18Speaker 4: I think three is a little much and an eight
- 1:04:20Speaker 4: woman roster. However, Tommy left left Marrigold and she's at
- 1:04:30Speaker 4: stardom now, so that's big because Tommy was the ace
- 1:04:35Speaker 4: of Marygold and marror Gold isn't hurting right now. Good,
- 1:04:40Speaker 4: you know, I don't want any any of these women
- 1:04:42Speaker 4: to lose their jobs. But Rossia Gala is a YI
- 1:04:48Speaker 4: so but NotI. The Roses going to wrestle a match
- 1:04:51Speaker 4: in Marygold. So maybe Tony Conen and Rosia Gwa made
- 1:04:55Speaker 4: up or something I don't know, but uh true true
- 1:05:01Speaker 4: mused media says, having Monet win twice in a row
- 1:05:04Speaker 4: isn't a good look. I can kind of see your point,
- 1:05:07Speaker 4: I do. I think we've got to establish somebody new.
- 1:05:11Speaker 4: That's my wish is that somebody new. Whether it's Serie
- 1:05:15Speaker 4: from Stardom, Azuki from Stardom, could those are very good,
- 1:05:20Speaker 4: you know options, but I personally don't want to see
- 1:05:25Speaker 4: somebody that's there. Persephone is an absolute perfect choice for this,
- 1:05:30Speaker 4: for the owen Hart to win the Owen Heart. I
- 1:05:32Speaker 4: really do, and I do agree with Conrad when he says, siri.
- 1:05:38Speaker 4: You know true muse media said Persephone, and Conrad said sire.
- 1:05:44Speaker 4: But let's move on to what Valerie had brought up,
- 1:05:49Speaker 4: and that is who is going to be the next
- 1:05:55Speaker 4: TVs champion? And it's weird. Shane. Weren't you the one
- 1:05:58Speaker 4: that said to Koda Kai uh for the wild card? No?
- 1:06:02Speaker 1: I said, uh.
- 1:06:05Speaker 4: Okay oh, Conrad secret Dakota Kai. Because if you if
- 1:06:11Speaker 4: you look at the silhouette, if you look at the silhouette,
- 1:06:15Speaker 4: doesn't that look like the Dakota Kai? It really does?
- 1:06:19Speaker 4: It really does? It went in all actuality, this is
- 1:06:22Speaker 4: the second time I've used this person as a silhouette
- 1:06:25Speaker 4: one of our who is this gonna be thing? There's
- 1:06:28Speaker 4: actually a friend of mine. I just took a you
- 1:06:30Speaker 4: took a picture of her, and I just made it
- 1:06:32Speaker 4: a silhouette and I slapped it on here. So but
- 1:06:36Speaker 4: I was like, man, she looks like Da Coda Kai
- 1:06:38Speaker 4: when she's you know, a shadow.
- 1:06:43Speaker 6: When Alex windsor versus wildcard matches happening, is that happen
- 1:06:48Speaker 6: for sure? Happens tomorrow?
- 1:06:50Speaker 4: You know what? As far as I know leading up
- 1:06:53Speaker 4: to this podcast, I haven't checked it during the podcast,
- 1:06:56Speaker 4: But as far as I know, the two owen Heart
- 1:06:59Speaker 4: matches is uh, the one onwen Heart match on uh
- 1:07:03Speaker 4: a double or nothing for the women's side were the
- 1:07:09Speaker 4: only ones that have been announced. But we're talking about
- 1:07:12Speaker 4: the TBS Championship right now, which has which has nothing
- 1:07:15Speaker 4: to do with the Owen Hart. But I wanted to
- 1:07:17Speaker 4: answer your question, but I haven't heard anything about about that,
- 1:07:21Speaker 4: so he.
- 1:07:24Speaker 1: Yeah, thinking about the TBS, remember like three years ago
- 1:07:28Speaker 1: when something like this would happen and there'd be a tournament,
- 1:07:31Speaker 1: and then they stopped doing that and now we want
- 1:07:34Speaker 1: tournaments back.
- 1:07:35Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think they're not have two tournaments though, right, Yeah.
- 1:07:38Speaker 7: No they're not. Who you think I want a four
- 1:07:41Speaker 7: way elimination match between four former what are there four
- 1:07:45Speaker 7: former ABS champions?
- 1:07:47Speaker 1: Yeah? Jay Cargill is coming back to make an appearance.
- 1:07:51Speaker 4: Well yeah, well who are who who other than who
- 1:07:55Speaker 4: are the who are the TBS champions that are still
- 1:07:58Speaker 4: in the company. Uh, you've got for Mercedes, you've got
- 1:08:04Speaker 4: Chris Statlander, Julia Hart, Shidah was never TBS champion.
- 1:08:09Speaker 7: That Lander, Julia Hart, Mercedes Monette.
- 1:08:13Speaker 4: Of course, Willow Night, Gale, but she's injured.
- 1:08:16Speaker 7: Yeah, those are literally only one, two, three, four. Only
- 1:08:21Speaker 7: five women have held the title.
- 1:08:23Speaker 4: Okay, did somebody old it twice?
- 1:08:27Speaker 5: Then?
- 1:08:27Speaker 4: Is that where you're so there's only four women that
- 1:08:30Speaker 4: held the title.
- 1:08:31Speaker 7: No, No, there's been six champions. Five women have held it. Champion,
- 1:08:38Speaker 7: the other the the other.
- 1:08:39Speaker 4: One said that it could be a four way match.
- 1:08:43Speaker 7: Yeah, Jay Cargill, looks she's in w w E. So
- 1:08:46Speaker 7: there's only.
- 1:08:49Speaker 4: Chris stat Lander was the second, Julia Hart was the third,
- 1:08:52Speaker 4: Willow Knight and Gale was the fourth. Okay, because that's
- 1:08:57Speaker 4: how what you said. You said there were six, there's
- 1:08:58Speaker 4: only five, you know, all right. So yeah, but okay,
- 1:09:07Speaker 4: but Jake Cargo is no longer with the CA. Okay,
- 1:09:09Speaker 4: I get what you're saying now, Yeah, so but dakoona
- 1:09:13Speaker 4: Kai would be a really good choice here, now that
- 1:09:16Speaker 4: I got the picture up. Yeah, you know, I don't
- 1:09:21Speaker 4: know how I feel about this, Peter, But Peter says,
- 1:09:25Speaker 4: I think they do a Battle Royal for the TBS Championship.
- 1:09:28Speaker 4: I don't think the TBS Championship should be decided by
- 1:09:31Speaker 4: a Battle Royal. I like the if they did it,
- 1:09:35Speaker 4: they could do like a five woman's four women whatever
- 1:09:39Speaker 4: eliminator match, meaning whoever gets pidded is out. Then they
- 1:09:42Speaker 4: do another one the next week, you know, and until
- 1:09:46Speaker 4: you get two on two and do that, it's not
- 1:09:48Speaker 4: really a tournament, but it's something different, all right.
- 1:09:52Speaker 7: You know, I don't know a survival series if you will.
- 1:09:58Speaker 4: But but I go right back to my standby. There's
- 1:10:02Speaker 4: two of them, uh and and they're best friends. I
- 1:10:05Speaker 4: think that Queen Amanada and sky Blue are perfect for
- 1:10:10Speaker 4: for the TPS Championship. I really put it on Amanada,
- 1:10:16Speaker 4: to put it on Amanada, but sky Blue deserves it
- 1:10:18Speaker 4: a lot more, you think so, in my in my mind,
- 1:10:22Speaker 4: she seems like.
- 1:10:23Speaker 1: Really busy with big a third wheel in a in
- 1:10:26Speaker 1: a three pack faction. Well it got really quiet. Yeah no,
- 1:10:31Speaker 1: I mean like she's wrestling, but like I'm God miss,
- 1:10:36Speaker 1: I'm back to being old me talking all the big stuff.
- 1:10:38Speaker 1: I mean, like her micro work hasn't really improved too much.
- 1:10:41Speaker 1: Her entering is just the same as it was two years. Amanada,
- 1:10:44Speaker 1: every time she's on in the ring is evolving, her style,
- 1:10:48Speaker 1: evolving her presence. She's cutting better promos, so I Kelson,
- 1:10:52Speaker 1: we usually see ey'd eye a lot of things. I
- 1:10:54Speaker 1: do not think that belt should go on sky Blue
- 1:10:55Speaker 1: anytime soon.
- 1:10:57Speaker 4: But here's the reason. I remember, I'm the one who
- 1:10:59Speaker 4: brought up Queen Domanada, of course, but the only reason
- 1:11:02Speaker 4: I don't think, the only reason I think Queena maybe
- 1:11:06Speaker 4: sky Blue over Queen Amanada because I don't know. Queen
- 1:11:08Speaker 4: Amanada is one dalthy. She's only been in like one
- 1:11:13Speaker 4: match this year, and she came back from injury, wrestled
- 1:11:17Speaker 4: one match and disappeared off the face of the earth again.
- 1:11:20Speaker 7: He's been wrestling on well also, Shane.
- 1:11:24Speaker 6: If you remember, prior to her free injury against Tina
- 1:11:30Speaker 6: sky Blue with getting a bit of a punch. So
- 1:11:34Speaker 6: a good way to continue that push would be to
- 1:11:38Speaker 6: give her that TBS champion again.
- 1:11:40Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, no no, I disagree with that completely. No,
- 1:11:43Speaker 1: you earn that position by putting in the reps. But
- 1:11:46Speaker 1: you also have to be you know, skilled enough to
- 1:11:50Speaker 1: build a fan base, attal base. You need to be over.
- 1:11:52Speaker 1: Being over is a lot of things, and I just
- 1:11:54Speaker 1: don't think sky Blue is it. If she wanted to
- 1:11:56Speaker 1: cut her teeth right now, she needs to get kicked
- 1:11:58Speaker 1: back to ROH and be on our OHTV as much
- 1:12:01Speaker 1: as possible, as much as often as possible. I really
- 1:12:05Speaker 1: think that she needs to work on her promos too.
- 1:12:08Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I'm saying with sky Blue. You know,
- 1:12:13Speaker 4: I personally think Zeta Steele is better than sky Blue
- 1:12:16Speaker 4: in almost every single you know thing. She's a better
- 1:12:19Speaker 4: on the mic, she's better in the ring. But sky
- 1:12:23Speaker 4: Blue is a workhorse, and that's what you need because
- 1:12:27Speaker 4: it's an open challenge, you know, it's an open challenge belt.
- 1:12:30Speaker 4: So if sky Blue is definitely the type of person
- 1:12:32Speaker 4: to get in there and and do like, you know,
- 1:12:35Speaker 4: four or five matches in four or five weeks, you know,
- 1:12:40Speaker 4: maybe somebody else wouldn't be able to do that. Plus
- 1:12:43Speaker 4: you don't know what the contracts are like, you know,
- 1:12:45Speaker 4: some of them may have only so many appearances every
- 1:12:48Speaker 4: month kind of thing. You know, it's weird. But anyway, look,
- 1:12:52Speaker 4: I do want to wrap this up, and you know,
- 1:12:56Speaker 4: so that Shane go to bed. He says he's over
- 1:12:59Speaker 4: there yawn and his little you know what of Yeah,
- 1:13:04Speaker 4: but anyway, this has been ignition from the aw Fana
- 1:13:07Speaker 4: podcast team. Tomorrow night three, it's a three hour dye
- 1:13:11Speaker 4: to my collision, right am I? Right? Yeah, yeah, So
- 1:13:16Speaker 4: we're going to have a live chat on the discord.
- 1:13:19Speaker 4: The link to the discord will be in will be
- 1:13:23Speaker 4: in the in the uh in the description of this podcast.
- 1:13:28Speaker 4: We are also doing a live chat on Reddit. I
- 1:13:33Speaker 4: will be on Reddit. I will not be on Discord
- 1:13:35Speaker 4: for the live chat. But please whatever you like, visit
- 1:13:42Speaker 4: one hell go to both.
- 1:13:44Speaker 7: Our our reddit.
- 1:13:47Speaker 4: I mean our discord was on fire for double or nothing.
- 1:13:53Speaker 4: It was absolutely on fire and it was just so good.
- 1:13:59Speaker 4: It was so right. And do me a favor. We
- 1:14:02Speaker 4: are I've been working a little bit with Reddit on
- 1:14:08Speaker 4: a new project that they're doing, aw fan Hub and
- 1:14:14Speaker 4: maybe like seven other subreddits and all of Reddit were
- 1:14:17Speaker 4: invited to participate in this pilot program and I got
- 1:14:20Speaker 4: it installed on on aw fan ub. Right now, it
- 1:14:24Speaker 4: is not fully functional yet, meaning that I've I have
- 1:14:29Speaker 4: yet to do things that need to be done. But
- 1:14:32Speaker 4: a couple of things you can do you can do.
- 1:14:35Speaker 4: You can create your own trivia for AW so that's fun.
- 1:14:41Speaker 4: There's already been like four or five of them made,
- 1:14:43Speaker 4: and there are questions. Are hard, They're really hard, and
- 1:14:48Speaker 4: I'm awful at it. Here I am doing a podcast,
- 1:14:52Speaker 4: you know, and I'm not an expert at AW by
- 1:14:54Speaker 4: any means, shape or form. But you will be able
- 1:14:56Speaker 4: to create your own memes on the subreddit. You'll be
- 1:15:00Speaker 4: able to do and this is one I think that
- 1:15:02Speaker 4: I am most excited about, which I will be working on.
- 1:15:06Speaker 4: It will be ready tomorrow and it's called a w
- 1:15:09Speaker 4: fan Hub bingo. If you've heard somebody say, well that
- 1:15:14Speaker 4: wasn't on my bingo card, now it will be or
- 1:15:17Speaker 4: it could be. Basically, what it is is you will
- 1:15:19Speaker 4: get a five by five bingo board on the subreddit.
- 1:15:24Speaker 4: Everybody gets a different one. There's twenty five bingo slots
- 1:15:28Speaker 4: and a five by five board. There's one hundred and
- 1:15:31Speaker 4: twenty five possibilities, and it'll be things like Oconna flips
- 1:15:37Speaker 4: off the crowd from within the ring. If he does it,
- 1:15:40Speaker 4: you fill in the slot all time. John Moxley bleeds,
- 1:15:45Speaker 4: that's actually one of them that I'm going to be doing.
- 1:15:47Speaker 4: I'm going to be filling that out. I'll be ready
- 1:15:48Speaker 4: tomorrow afternoon and I will put it on everywhere. You'll
- 1:15:53Speaker 4: see it advertised on Twitter, Instagram and everything, because it's
- 1:15:57Speaker 4: gonna be fun. It's gonna make people pay attention maybe
- 1:16:01Speaker 4: where others wouldn't, because as soon as something happens, it's
- 1:16:04Speaker 4: on your Bigo card. You click on it, you fill
- 1:16:06Speaker 4: out the Bingo card, and you win. Now what do
- 1:16:09Speaker 4: you win? Right now? It's just in the testing phase.
- 1:16:12Speaker 4: Probably do two of them, because it could take a
- 1:16:14Speaker 4: couple of weeks, three weeks, even a month for somebody
- 1:16:16Speaker 4: to fill out a big O card because some of
- 1:16:18Speaker 4: them are common stuff and some of the stuff is
- 1:16:21Speaker 4: gonna be a little bit out there but not impossible,
- 1:16:25Speaker 4: you know what I mean. But eventually the per first person,
- 1:16:30Speaker 4: you know, I'm shooting for maybe like all in Week
- 1:16:33Speaker 4: or something, maybe Forbidden Door, But I don't think it's
- 1:16:36Speaker 4: gonna be that soon to probably be a little bit
- 1:16:37Speaker 4: after Bridden Door maybe even Redemption that that month. Whoever
- 1:16:43Speaker 4: wins gets big Go. The first three people to get
- 1:16:45Speaker 4: Bingo win an aw T shirt from Shop aaw. Let's
- 1:16:51Speaker 4: just have some fun. Just have some fun. That's what
- 1:16:54Speaker 4: it's all about. It's just about having fun, you know,
- 1:16:57Speaker 4: watching the show. Hey, that's on my Bigo card. Click
- 1:17:00Speaker 4: the button and you and you fills it in for you,
- 1:17:03Speaker 4: you know, and it's it's just something silly and fun.
- 1:17:07Speaker 4: You know. There's also going to be new prediction polls
- 1:17:09Speaker 4: where even draws are an option. So if you're one
- 1:17:15Speaker 4: of those people like me who thinks every match it's
- 1:17:17Speaker 4: going to be a draw in the Continental Classic, this
- 1:17:21Speaker 4: is going to be right up your alley, you know.
- 1:17:22Speaker 4: So yeah, so the reddit is going to be have
- 1:17:27Speaker 4: some cool new features on it. It really is. Also
- 1:17:30Speaker 4: there's a showcase thing. So for example, you take who
- 1:17:35Speaker 4: is the best we just talked about who's the best
- 1:17:37Speaker 4: TVs Champion? Right you and you had the had a
- 1:17:43Speaker 4: community ranks them just by uploading them, and it changes
- 1:17:47Speaker 4: the graphic. It'll rank them biographics. It's pretty cool. But
- 1:17:53Speaker 4: we've been working hard on that and hopefully we will
- 1:17:56Speaker 4: be just some of the stuff will be ready tomorrow.
- 1:18:01Speaker 4: Like I said, I've already got the Tribua up, I've
- 1:18:03Speaker 4: already got the live chat up, and we'll see what
- 1:18:06Speaker 4: goes on from there. So please join us on discord again.
- 1:18:10Speaker 4: The link will be in the description of this video
- 1:18:13Speaker 4: and on your audio side as well, and then join
- 1:18:19Speaker 4: us on the reddit because aw fan hub is really
- 1:18:23Speaker 4: really going strong and with our partnership, our great partnership
- 1:18:27Speaker 4: with Conrad and Everything Pro Wrestling and the Everything Pro
- 1:18:30Speaker 4: Wrestling podcast again that it's going to be seven pm
- 1:18:34Speaker 4: Thursday night with their Dynamite review. Is that correct, Conrad?
- 1:18:36Speaker 4: I believe that you said seven pm. Those shows are
- 1:18:40Speaker 4: a lot of fun. And listen to guys, I know, Chris,
- 1:18:42Speaker 4: you've been in those shows before. Oh yeah, a lot
- 1:18:46Speaker 4: of then they are. I mean, there are tons of fun, Shane.
- 1:18:49Speaker 4: If you want to see how it's done, go watch that,
- 1:18:52Speaker 4: honestly and go on YouTube chat and they will talk
- 1:18:56Speaker 4: to you. They will literally let you know that they
- 1:19:01Speaker 4: see you like we try to do, but they do
- 1:19:04Speaker 4: it better, you know, they really do. And it's a
- 1:19:08Speaker 4: lot of fun. And sometimes you even get to your
- 1:19:10Speaker 4: Conrad saying you know, sorry how you know? Yeah, I know,
- 1:19:16Speaker 4: well exactly. But anyway, that's our show for tonight. Thank
- 1:19:20Speaker 4: you for listening or watching everybody. We will see you
- 1:19:24Speaker 4: as we always are on Tuesday nights eight forty five
- 1:19:28Speaker 4: Eastern time. Join us. Just join us, that's all you
- 1:19:32Speaker 4: have to do. You could be part of the podcast team.
- 1:19:34Speaker 4: You could join us in the YouTube chat and just
- 1:19:38Speaker 4: hang out and talk to us in there. So forty
- 1:19:42Speaker 4: aw fan podcast team. This is Kelson.
- 1:19:45Speaker 6: Good night, Addy Kingston, good night, Orange Cassidy, good.
- 1:19:51Speaker 4: Night, good night, Lusus, night night thing.
- 1:19:59Speaker 6: Don't let the bad bugs bight.
- 1:20:02Speaker 4: That's that's nightmare fodder right there. Machine. Yeah, good night everybody.