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Wake Up and Love: Becoming Vessels of Grace · Deep Transformation

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  Welcome
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  to
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  today's
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  dialogue
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  with
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  the
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  remarkable
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  Miranda
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  Macpherson,
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  whose
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  extraordinary
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  biography
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  from
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  major
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  depression
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  as
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  an
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  adolescent
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  to
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  profound
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  awakenings
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  from
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  which
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  he
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  has
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  lived
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  and
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  taught
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  and
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  helped
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  so
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  many
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  people
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  to
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  deepen
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  into
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  their
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  own
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  true
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  nature,
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  to
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  awaken
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  to
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  our
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  being
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  and
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  to
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  contribute
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  with
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  grace
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  filled
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  joyful
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  lives.
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  Welcome
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  to
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  to
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  deep
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  transformation,
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  self,
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  society,
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  spirit,
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  life
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  enhancing
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  paradigm
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  rattling
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  conversations
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  with
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  cutting
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  edge
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  thinkers,
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  contemplatives
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  and
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  activists
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  with
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  Dr.
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  Roger
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  Walsh
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  and
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  John
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  Dupuy
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  join
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  us
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  in
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  the
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  evolutionary
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  fast
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  lane
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  as
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  we
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  take
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  a
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  deep
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  dive
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  into
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  transformational
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  practice.
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  Peak
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  experience,
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  profound
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  understanding,
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  powerful
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  contribution.
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  Feeling
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  the
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  welcome
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  of
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  our
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  own
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  in
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  breath,
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  the
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  natural
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  surrender
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  of
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  each
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  out
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  breath.
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  We
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  start
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  in
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  gratitude
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  that
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  we
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  are
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  here
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  together.
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  We've
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  been
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  brought
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  to
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  the
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  path
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  of
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  all
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  the
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  learning
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  and
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  the
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  stumblings,
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  the
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  liberation,
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  the
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  healing
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  and
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  the
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  wisdom
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  that
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  has
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  birthed
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  itself
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  so
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  far.
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  And
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  as
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  we
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  greet
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  this
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  moment
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  in
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  reverence,
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  let
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  us
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  remember
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  what
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  is
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  breathing
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  us,
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  what
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  is
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  bringing
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  forth
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  the
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  questions
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  we
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  grapple
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  with
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  and
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  the
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  grace
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  that
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  responds
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  and
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  emerges
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  as
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  we
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  listen.
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  So
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  let
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  us
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  listen
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  together.
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  And
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  as
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  we
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  listen,
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  we
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  listen
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  for
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  everyone.
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  We
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  listen
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  for
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  the
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  human
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  family.
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  We
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  listen
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  for
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  the
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  highest
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  possibilities
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  and
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  we
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  offer
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  it
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  all
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  back
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  with
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  love.
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  Those
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  were
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  the
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  beautiful
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  words
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  and
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  the
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  prayer
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  of
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  our
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  guest
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  today,
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  Miranda
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  Macpherson.
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  Miranda
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  is
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  an
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  interfaith
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  minister,
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  a
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  spiritual
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  teacher,
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  an
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  author,
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  has
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  many
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  roles
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  and
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  currently
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  leads
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  the
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  Living
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  Grace
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  Global
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  Sangha.
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  Quite
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  an
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  organization
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  and
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  quite
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  an
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  international
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  community.
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  She's
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  also
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  the
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  author
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  of
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  a
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  number
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  of
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  books,
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  my
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  favorite,
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  the
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  Way
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  of
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  Grace,
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  the
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  Transforming
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  Power
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  of
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  Ego
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  Relaxation.
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  And
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  she's
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  also
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  written
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  Boundless
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  Love
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  and
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  Meditations
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  on
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  Boundless
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  Love.
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  And
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  Miranda
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  is
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  also
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  a,
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  a
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  beautiful
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  musician,
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  wonderful
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  singer,
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  and
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  just
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  been
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  very
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  touched
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  by
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  her
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  work
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  and
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  her
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  music.
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  And
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  so
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  Miranda,
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  it's
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  a
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  gift
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  to
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  have
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  you
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  with
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  us
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  today
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  and
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  you're
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  one
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  of
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  the
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  few
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  people
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  we've
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  had
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  back,
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  so
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  I'm
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  very
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  honored.
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  It's
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  a
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  great
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  privilege.
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  Well,
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  it's
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  actually
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  our
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  delight.
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  You
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  know,
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  as
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  I,
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  as
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  I
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  was
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  reflecting
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  on
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  what
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  to
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  explore
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  with
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  you,
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  there's
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  so
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  much.
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  But
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  you
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  know,
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  as
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  I
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  reflected,
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  I
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  was
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  really
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  struck
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  by
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  your
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  spiritual
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  biography
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  because
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  you
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  have
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  a
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  very
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  remarkable
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  story.
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  In
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  some
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  ways,
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  you're
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  a
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  child
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  of
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  our
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  time,
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  having
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  explored
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  so
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  many
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  of
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  the
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  world's
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  traditions,
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  not
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  only
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  studied
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  them,
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  but
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  practiced
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  in
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  them.
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  But
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  you
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  started
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  your
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  spiritual
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  life
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  in
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  a
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  most
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  remarkable
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  way.
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  As
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  I
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  understand,
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  your
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  first
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  real
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  opening
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  was
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  as
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  a,
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  an
• 4:28
  early
• 4:28
  teenager
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  when
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  you
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  were
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  depressed.
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  Yeah,
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  I've
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  treated
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  a
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  lot
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  of
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  depressed
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  people.
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  I've
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  never
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  seen
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  anyone
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  have
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  the
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  kind
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  of
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  opening
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  you
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  Describe
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  this
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  is
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  fascinating.
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  Would
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  you
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  be
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  open
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  saying
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  more
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  about
• 4:41
  that?
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  Sure,
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  I'd
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  be
• 4:42
  happy
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  to.
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  You
• 4:44
  know,
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  I'm
• 4:45
  often
• 4:46
  asked,
• 4:46
  you
• 4:46
  know,
• 4:46
  what
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  brought
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  you
• 4:47
  to
• 4:47
  the
• 4:47
  spiritual
• 4:48
  path?
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  And
• 4:49
  we're
• 4:50
  all
• 4:50
  brought
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  to
• 4:50
  the
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  spiritual
• 4:51
  path,
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  usually
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  because
• 4:52
  we're
• 4:52
  on
• 4:52
  our
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  knees.
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  In
• 4:53
  some
• 4:53
  way,
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  we're
• 4:54
  suffering
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  in
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  some
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  way.
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  So
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  my
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  answer,
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  the
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  simple
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  version,
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  is,
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  well,
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  I
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  was
• 4:59
  suffering.
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  Only
• 5:01
  I
• 5:01
  was
• 5:01
  aware
• 5:02
  I
• 5:02
  was
• 5:02
  suffering,
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  which
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  is
• 5:03
  kind
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  of
• 5:04
  interesting.
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  I
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  remember
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  being
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  a
• 5:06
  kid
• 5:06
  and
• 5:08
  seeing
• 5:08
  things
• 5:09
  that
• 5:09
  did
• 5:10
  not
• 5:10
  make
• 5:10
  sense
• 5:11
  to
• 5:11
  me.
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  Like,
• 5:12
  it
• 5:12
  did
• 5:13
  not
• 5:13
  make
• 5:13
  sense
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  to
• 5:14
  me
• 5:14
  when
• 5:14
  people
• 5:15
  were
• 5:15
  mean
• 5:15
  or
• 5:16
  unkind
• 5:16
  to
• 5:16
  one
• 5:17
  another.
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  It
• 5:17
  hurt
• 5:17
  my
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  heart.
• 5:18
  And
• 5:18
  I'm
• 5:18
  like,
• 5:19
  why?
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  Something
• 5:21
  in
• 5:21
  me
• 5:21
  knew
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  this
• 5:22
  is
• 5:22
  not
• 5:22
  natural.
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  And
• 5:24
  whether
• 5:24
  that
• 5:24
  was
• 5:25
  happening
• 5:25
  within
• 5:25
  my
• 5:26
  family,
• 5:26
  within
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  my
• 5:27
  peers,
• 5:27
  or
• 5:28
  just
• 5:28
  as
• 5:28
  I
• 5:28
  looked
• 5:28
  out
• 5:29
  upon
• 5:29
  this
• 5:30
  world
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  that
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  when
• 5:32
  we're
• 5:33
  children,
• 5:33
  we're
• 5:33
  presented
• 5:34
  with,
• 5:35
  you
• 5:35
  know,
• 5:35
  this
• 5:36
  is
• 5:36
  the
• 5:36
  world,
• 5:36
  and
• 5:36
  this
• 5:36
  is
• 5:37
  how
• 5:37
  you
• 5:37
  be
• 5:37
  in
• 5:37
  it.
• 5:38
  And
• 5:38
  here
• 5:38
  are
• 5:38
  some
• 5:39
  modeling
• 5:39
  and
• 5:39
  examples
• 5:40
  and
• 5:41
  everything
• 5:41
  that
• 5:42
  I
• 5:42
  was
• 5:42
  shown.
• 5:43
  Something
• 5:43
  in
• 5:43
  my
• 5:44
  heart
• 5:44
  was
• 5:44
  just
• 5:44
  saying,
• 5:44
  this
• 5:45
  cannot
• 5:45
  be
• 5:45
  it.
• 5:46
  It's
• 5:46
  like,
• 5:47
  I
• 5:47
  jokingly
• 5:48
  call
• 5:48
  it
• 5:48
  my
• 5:48
  John
• 5:49
  McEnroe
• 5:49
  kind
• 5:50
  of
• 5:50
  tantrum,
• 5:51
  you
• 5:51
  know,
• 5:51
  you
• 5:52
  cannot
• 5:52
  be
• 5:52
  serious.
• 5:55
  So
• 5:55
  I
• 5:55
  think
• 5:56
  at
• 5:56
  the
• 5:56
  core
• 5:57
  of
• 5:57
  my
• 5:58
  young
• 5:59
  depression
• 6:00
  was
• 6:00
  a
• 6:01
  spiritual
• 6:01
  kind
• 6:02
  of
• 6:02
  tussling,
• 6:03
  you
• 6:03
  know,
• 6:04
  with
• 6:04
  the
• 6:05
  umpire
• 6:06
  who
• 6:07
  I
• 6:07
  didn't
• 6:07
  kind
• 6:08
  of
• 6:08
  like
• 6:08
  this.
• 6:09
  You
• 6:09
  cannot
• 6:09
  be
• 6:10
  serious.
• 6:11
  You
• 6:11
  cannot
• 6:12
  ask
• 6:12
  me
• 6:12
  to
• 6:13
  say
• 6:13
  yes
• 6:14
  to
• 6:14
  this.
• 6:14
  This
• 6:14
  doesn't
• 6:15
  make
• 6:15
  sense.
• 6:18
  And
• 6:18
  yet,
• 6:19
  you
• 6:19
  know,
• 6:20
  my
• 6:20
  own
• 6:21
  conditioning
• 6:21
  and
• 6:21
  so
• 6:22
  forth,
• 6:22
  there
• 6:22
  was
• 6:22
  no
• 6:23
  space
• 6:23
  to
• 6:24
  speak
• 6:25
  any
• 6:25
  of
• 6:25
  this.
• 6:25
  And
• 6:26
  perhaps
• 6:26
  I
• 6:26
  didn't
• 6:26
  even
• 6:27
  have
• 6:27
  the
• 6:27
  language
• 6:28
  anyway,
• 6:28
  or
• 6:28
  I
• 6:28
  didn't
• 6:29
  feel
• 6:29
  safe
• 6:29
  enough,
• 6:29
  or
• 6:30
  I
• 6:30
  didn't
• 6:30
  trust,
• 6:31
  and
• 6:31
  probably
• 6:31
  all
• 6:31
  of
• 6:32
  the
• 6:32
  above.
• 6:33
  But
• 6:34
  my
• 6:34
  response,
• 6:35
  I
• 6:35
  remember
• 6:36
  getting
• 6:36
  to
• 6:36
  a
• 6:36
  certain
• 6:37
  threshold,
• 6:37
  a
• 6:38
  tipping
• 6:38
  point,
• 6:39
  and
• 6:39
  something
• 6:40
  in
• 6:40
  me
• 6:40
  just
• 6:40
  says,
• 6:41
  I'm
• 6:41
  not
• 6:41
  playing.
• 6:43
  And
• 6:43
  my
• 6:44
  defense
• 6:45
  or
• 6:45
  response
• 6:45
  to
• 6:46
  that
• 6:47
  feeling
• 6:47
  like
• 6:48
  it
• 6:48
  was
• 6:48
  too
• 6:48
  much,
• 6:49
  the
• 6:50
  meaninglessness,
• 6:51
  the
• 6:51
  lack
• 6:51
  of
• 6:51
  love
• 6:52
  and
• 6:52
  kindness,
• 6:53
  the
• 6:53
  things
• 6:54
  that
• 6:54
  didn't
• 6:54
  make
• 6:55
  sense
• 6:55
  and
• 6:55
  that
• 6:56
  hurt.
• 6:57
  My
• 6:57
  response
• 6:58
  was
• 6:58
  to
• 6:58
  withdraw
• 6:59
  into
• 6:59
  myself.
• 7:01
  And
• 7:01
  I
• 7:02
  really
• 7:03
  just
• 7:03
  wanted
• 7:04
  to
• 7:04
  disappear.
• 7:06
  And
• 7:06
  eventually,
• 7:07
  you
• 7:08
  know,
• 7:08
  that
• 7:08
  led
• 7:08
  to
• 7:10
  being
• 7:10
  noticed
• 7:11
  that
• 7:11
  this
• 7:11
  young
• 7:12
  girl
• 7:12
  wasn't
• 7:12
  doing
• 7:13
  so
• 7:13
  well.
• 7:15
  And
• 7:15
  I
• 7:15
  was
• 7:16
  hospitalized.
• 7:16
  I
• 7:17
  was
• 7:17
  given
• 7:17
  the
• 7:17
  choice,
• 7:18
  a
• 7:18
  teenage
• 7:19
  psych
• 7:19
  unit
• 7:20
  or
• 7:20
  an
• 7:20
  adult
• 7:21
  one.
• 7:21
  And
• 7:22
  I
• 7:22
  said,
• 7:22
  adult.
• 7:23
  That
• 7:23
  was
• 7:23
  my
• 7:24
  choice.
• 7:25
  Big
• 7:25
  league.
• 7:26
  It's
• 7:26
  an
• 7:26
  interesting
• 7:27
  thing
• 7:27
  there,
• 7:28
  and
• 7:28
  I
• 7:28
  think
• 7:28
  that
• 7:28
  it's
• 7:29
  part
• 7:29
  of
• 7:31
  the
• 7:31
  awakening
• 7:32
  because
• 7:33
  it
• 7:33
  speaks
• 7:34
  to
• 7:34
  something
• 7:34
  in
• 7:35
  me.
• 7:36
  Was
• 7:36
  not
• 7:36
  interested
• 7:37
  in
• 7:39
  playing
• 7:39
  games
• 7:41
  with
• 7:41
  being
• 7:41
  here.
• 7:42
  I
• 7:42
  was
• 7:44
  really
• 7:44
  grappling
• 7:45
  deeply
• 7:46
  without
• 7:47
  any
• 7:47
  support
• 7:47
  or
• 7:48
  container
• 7:49
  or
• 7:49
  navigation
• 7:51
  with
• 7:51
  what
• 7:52
  is
• 7:52
  life?
• 7:53
  What
• 7:53
  makes
• 7:54
  sense?
• 7:55
  How
• 7:55
  can
• 7:56
  we
• 7:56
  really
• 7:56
  be
• 7:57
  Here
• 7:57
  in
• 7:58
  this
• 7:58
  human
• 7:58
  realm
• 7:59
  in
• 7:59
  a
• 7:59
  way
• 7:59
  that
• 8:00
  is
• 8:00
  meaningful
• 8:01
  and
• 8:01
  noble
• 8:02
  and
• 8:02
  beautiful
• 8:03
  and
• 8:03
  good
• 8:05
  and
• 8:06
  nothing
• 8:06
  that
• 8:06
  I
• 8:07
  had
• 8:07
  been
• 8:07
  presented
• 8:08
  with
• 8:08
  really
• 8:09
  was
• 8:09
  satisfying.
• 8:11
  And
• 8:11
  so
• 8:11
  I
• 8:11
  remember,
• 8:12
  you
• 8:12
  know,
• 8:13
  being
• 8:13
  pretty
• 8:13
  stubborn
• 8:14
  in
• 8:14
  my
• 8:15
  position
• 8:16
  and
• 8:16
  all
• 8:16
  of
• 8:16
  this.
• 8:17
  And
• 8:18
  thankfully
• 8:19
  I
• 8:19
  was
• 8:19
  never
• 8:19
  medicated.
• 8:20
  God
• 8:20
  bless
• 8:21
  my
• 8:21
  mother,
• 8:21
  who
• 8:21
  was
• 8:22
  a
• 8:22
  nurse
• 8:22
  who
• 8:22
  insisted
• 8:23
  I
• 8:23
  was
• 8:23
  not
• 8:23
  medicated.
• 8:25
  No
• 8:25
  one
• 8:25
  really
• 8:25
  knew
• 8:26
  what
• 8:26
  was
• 8:26
  going
• 8:26
  on
• 8:26
  with
• 8:27
  me.
• 8:28
  And
• 8:28
  I
• 8:28
  remember
• 8:28
  just
• 8:29
  being
• 8:29
  so
• 8:29
  withdrawn.
• 8:30
  I
• 8:30
  was
• 8:30
  lying
• 8:30
  on
• 8:30
  my
• 8:31
  bed
• 8:31
  one
• 8:31
  day
• 8:31
  and
• 8:32
  I
• 8:32
  was
• 8:32
  looking
• 8:32
  out
• 8:33
  at
• 8:33
  the.
• 8:33
  The
• 8:33
  plants
• 8:34
  that
• 8:34
  were
• 8:34
  just
• 8:34
  there
• 8:35
  outside
• 8:35
  my
• 8:36
  window.
• 8:37
  And
• 8:37
  I
• 8:37
  start
• 8:37
  to
• 8:38
  pray
• 8:39
  to
• 8:39
  a
• 8:39
  God
• 8:40
  I
• 8:40
  didn't
• 8:41
  know
• 8:41
  I
• 8:42
  believed
• 8:42
  in.
• 8:43
  As
• 8:43
  I
• 8:43
  said,
• 8:44
  I
• 8:44
  did
• 8:44
  not
• 8:44
  come
• 8:45
  from
• 8:45
  a
• 8:45
  religious
• 8:45
  family,
• 8:47
  so
• 8:47
  no
• 8:47
  one
• 8:48
  had
• 8:48
  put
• 8:48
  pressure
• 8:49
  on
• 8:49
  me
• 8:49
  to
• 8:51
  accept
• 8:51
  a
• 8:51
  view
• 8:52
  of
• 8:52
  God.
• 8:53
  And
• 8:53
  this
• 8:53
  is
• 8:53
  how
• 8:54
  you
• 8:54
  have
• 8:54
  to
• 8:54
  think
• 8:54
  and
• 8:54
  feel
• 8:55
  about
• 8:55
  it.
• 8:56
  But
• 8:56
  I
• 8:57
  remember
• 8:57
  praying
• 8:58
  and
• 8:58
  my
• 8:58
  prayer
• 8:58
  wasn't
• 8:59
  a
• 8:59
  very
• 8:59
  sacred
• 8:59
  prayer.
• 9:00
  It
• 9:00
  was
• 9:00
  a
• 9:00
  prayer
• 9:00
  of
• 9:00
  resistance.
• 9:02
  You
• 9:02
  know,
• 9:02
  beam
• 9:02
  me
• 9:03
  up,
• 9:03
  I'm
• 9:03
  done
• 9:03
  here.
• 9:05
  Only
• 9:05
  I
• 9:06
  think
• 9:06
  I
• 9:06
  exhausted
• 9:07
  myself
• 9:07
  in
• 9:08
  my
• 9:08
  own
• 9:08
  resistance
• 9:09
  and
• 9:10
  something
• 9:11
  broke
• 9:12
  through
• 9:14
  in
• 9:14
  my
• 9:14
  heart.
• 9:15
  And
• 9:15
  it
• 9:15
  felt
• 9:15
  like
• 9:16
  an
• 9:16
  explosion
• 9:17
  from
• 9:17
  within,
• 9:19
  an
• 9:19
  explosion
• 9:20
  into
• 9:22
  absolute,
• 9:24
  indescribable,
• 9:26
  boundless
• 9:27
  love
• 9:27
  and
• 9:28
  truth.
• 9:30
  And
• 9:30
  it
• 9:30
  was
• 9:31
  like
• 9:31
  being
• 9:32
  plugged
• 9:32
  into
• 9:32
  the
• 9:33
  mains
• 9:34
  and
• 9:34
  all
• 9:34
  of
• 9:34
  my
• 9:35
  questions
• 9:35
  were
• 9:36
  completely
• 9:36
  answered.
• 9:37
  And
• 9:38
  in
• 9:38
  that
• 9:38
  experience,
• 9:39
  I
• 9:40
  knew
• 9:41
  this
• 9:41
  is
• 9:41
  meaningful,
• 9:42
  this
• 9:42
  is
• 9:42
  more
• 9:43
  real
• 9:43
  than
• 9:43
  anything.
• 9:44
  This
• 9:45
  is
• 9:45
  the
• 9:45
  truth
• 9:45
  of
• 9:46
  who
• 9:46
  you
• 9:46
  are,
• 9:46
  who
• 9:47
  I
• 9:47
  am,
• 9:47
  who
• 9:48
  everything
• 9:48
  and
• 9:48
  everyone
• 9:49
  really
• 9:49
  is.
• 9:50
  And
• 9:50
  the
• 9:50
  purpose
• 9:51
  of
• 9:51
  life
• 9:51
  is
• 9:51
  to
• 9:52
  live
• 9:52
  this
• 9:52
  somehow,
• 9:53
  to
• 9:53
  live
• 9:54
  from
• 9:54
  this
• 9:55
  depth
• 9:56
  that
• 9:56
  is
• 9:56
  good
• 9:57
  and
• 9:57
  true
• 9:58
  and
• 9:58
  loving
• 9:59
  and
• 9:59
  makes
• 10:00
  sense.
• 10:01
  And
• 10:02
  of
• 10:02
  course,
• 10:02
  simultaneously,
• 10:04
  as
• 10:04
  the
• 10:04
  great
• 10:05
  yogis
• 10:05
  of
• 10:05
  the
• 10:05
  east
• 10:06
  taught
• 10:06
  us,
• 10:07
  you
• 10:07
  know,
• 10:07
  this
• 10:07
  is
• 10:07
  ananda.
• 10:08
  So
• 10:09
  it's
• 10:09
  simultaneously
• 10:10
  joy
• 10:10
  and
• 10:10
  bliss
• 10:11
  as
• 10:11
  well
• 10:11
  as
• 10:12
  love.
• 10:12
  It's
• 10:13
  not
• 10:13
  just
• 10:13
  love,
• 10:14
  and
• 10:14
  it's
• 10:14
  not
• 10:14
  just
• 10:14
  an
• 10:15
  interpersonal
• 10:16
  love.
• 10:16
  It's
• 10:16
  the
• 10:16
  very
• 10:16
  source
• 10:17
  of
• 10:17
  all
• 10:18
  of
• 10:18
  the
• 10:18
  love
• 10:18
  that
• 10:18
  we
• 10:19
  feel,
• 10:19
  of
• 10:19
  all
• 10:20
  of
• 10:20
  the
• 10:20
  joy
• 10:20
  that
• 10:21
  we
• 10:21
  feel.
• 10:22
  And
• 10:22
  it
• 10:22
  is
• 10:24
  just
• 10:24
  like
• 10:24
  this
• 10:25
  unstoppable
• 10:26
  river
• 10:26
  of
• 10:26
  nectar
• 10:28
  that
• 10:29
  has
• 10:29
  no
• 10:30
  top,
• 10:30
  bottom,
• 10:31
  middle,
• 10:31
  side,
• 10:32
  beginning
• 10:32
  or
• 10:32
  end.
• 10:35
  And
• 10:36
  so
• 10:36
  the
• 10:36
  impact
• 10:37
  of
• 10:37
  that
• 10:37
  on
• 10:38
  this
• 10:38
  13
• 10:38
  year
• 10:39
  old
• 10:39
  girl
• 10:40
  was
• 10:41
  all
• 10:41
  of
• 10:41
  a
• 10:41
  sudden
• 10:41
  she
• 10:42
  was
• 10:42
  all
• 10:42
  right
• 10:42
  to
• 10:42
  be
• 10:43
  here.
• 10:44
  It
• 10:44
  felt
• 10:45
  like,
• 10:45
  okay,
• 10:46
  I
• 10:46
  can
• 10:46
  be
• 10:46
  here.
• 10:46
  Okay.
• 10:48
  I
• 10:48
  had
• 10:48
  the
• 10:49
  meaning,
• 10:49
  I
• 10:49
  had
• 10:50
  something
• 10:50
  that
• 10:50
  was
• 10:51
  true
• 10:51
  and
• 10:52
  it
• 10:52
  was
• 10:52
  profound.
• 10:53
  And
• 10:53
  there
• 10:53
  was
• 10:54
  nothing
• 10:54
  that
• 10:54
  could
• 10:54
  ever
• 10:55
  convince
• 10:55
  me
• 10:56
  of
• 10:56
  anything
• 10:56
  other
• 10:57
  than
• 10:57
  this.
• 10:59
  So,
• 10:59
  you
• 10:59
  know,
• 11:00
  this
• 11:00
  profound
• 11:01
  experience
• 11:02
  of
• 11:03
  the
• 11:03
  grace
• 11:03
  of
• 11:04
  boundless
• 11:04
  love
• 11:05
  woke
• 11:06
  me
• 11:06
  up,
• 11:06
  put
• 11:07
  me
• 11:07
  on
• 11:07
  the
• 11:07
  path,
• 11:08
  showed
• 11:09
  me
• 11:09
  the
• 11:09
  direction,
• 11:10
  gave
• 11:11
  me
• 11:11
  the
• 11:11
  strength
• 11:12
  to
• 11:13
  go
• 11:13
  back
• 11:13
  into
• 11:13
  the
• 11:14
  life
• 11:15
  where
• 11:15
  there
• 11:15
  was
• 11:15
  a
• 11:15
  lot
• 11:15
  of
• 11:16
  difficulty.
• 11:16
  There
• 11:16
  was
• 11:17
  difficulty
• 11:17
  in
• 11:17
  my
• 11:18
  household,
• 11:18
  there
• 11:19
  was
• 11:19
  difficulty
• 11:20
  at
• 11:20
  school,
• 11:21
  it
• 11:21
  was
• 11:21
  not
• 11:22
  an
• 11:22
  easy
• 11:22
  time.
• 11:22
  And
• 11:23
  in
• 11:23
  fact,
• 11:23
  I
• 11:23
  would
• 11:24
  go
• 11:24
  as
• 11:24
  far
• 11:24
  as
• 11:24
  to
• 11:24
  say
• 11:25
  that
• 11:25
  the
• 11:26
  circumstances
• 11:27
  of
• 11:27
  my
• 11:27
  life
• 11:28
  were
• 11:28
  harder
• 11:29
  after
• 11:30
  that
• 11:30
  awakening
• 11:31
  than
• 11:31
  before
• 11:31
  it.
• 11:33
  But
• 11:33
  the
• 11:33
  difference
• 11:34
  was
• 11:34
  I
• 11:35
  knew
• 11:35
  absolutely
• 11:36
  unrefutably
• 11:39
  that,
• 11:40
  you
• 11:40
  know,
• 11:40
  I
• 11:40
  would
• 11:41
  get
• 11:41
  through
• 11:41
  this.
• 11:41
  I
• 11:42
  could
• 11:42
  get
• 11:42
  through
• 11:43
  this.
• 11:43
  But
• 11:44
  there
• 11:44
  was
• 11:44
  a
• 11:44
  meaning
• 11:45
  and
• 11:45
  a
• 11:45
  direction.
• 11:46
  That
• 11:47
  was
• 11:47
  what
• 11:47
  was
• 11:48
  so.
• 11:49
  So
• 11:49
  it
• 11:49
  gave
• 11:49
  me
• 11:49
  optimism,
• 11:50
  courage,
• 11:51
  strength,
• 11:52
  joy,
• 11:52
  tenacity,
• 11:54
  and
• 11:55
  a
• 11:55
  deep
• 11:55
  devotion
• 11:56
  to
• 11:56
  find
• 11:57
  out
• 11:57
  more
• 11:58
  about
• 11:59
  all
• 11:59
  of
• 11:59
  this
• 12:00
  that
• 12:01
  had
• 12:01
  come
• 12:01
  online.
• 12:02
  And,
• 12:03
  yeah,
• 12:03
  that's
• 12:03
  what
• 12:03
  put
• 12:03
  me
• 12:04
  on
• 12:04
  the
• 12:04
  path.
• 12:05
  Beautiful.
• 12:06
  You
• 12:07
  know,
• 12:07
  I
• 12:07
  think
• 12:07
  you've
• 12:07
  answered
• 12:08
  the
• 12:09
  question
• 12:09
  that
• 12:09
  was
• 12:09
  at
• 12:09
  the
• 12:09
  back
• 12:10
  of
• 12:10
  my
• 12:10
  mind,
• 12:10
  which
• 12:10
  I
• 12:11
  alluded
• 12:12
  to
• 12:12
  when
• 12:12
  I
• 12:12
  asked
• 12:12
  the
• 12:13
  question,
• 12:13
  which
• 12:13
  was,
• 12:14
  you
• 12:14
  know,
• 12:14
  I've
• 12:14
  seen
• 12:14
  so
• 12:15
  many
• 12:15
  people
• 12:15
  who
• 12:15
  are
• 12:15
  depressed,
• 12:16
  and
• 12:16
  I've
• 12:16
  never
• 12:16
  seen
• 12:17
  anyone
• 12:17
  have
• 12:17
  this
• 12:18
  kind
• 12:18
  of
• 12:18
  opening.
• 12:19
  And
• 12:19
  I
• 12:19
  think
• 12:20
  you
• 12:20
  pointed
• 12:21
  to
• 12:21
  some
• 12:21
  of
• 12:21
  the
• 12:22
  unique
• 12:22
  features,
• 12:23
  which
• 12:23
  was,
• 12:24
  curiously,
• 12:25
  it
• 12:25
  sounds
• 12:25
  like
• 12:25
  you
• 12:26
  were
• 12:26
  suffering
• 12:26
  an
• 12:26
  existential
• 12:27
  despair
• 12:28
  in
• 12:29
  your
• 12:29
  teens
• 12:29
  instead
• 12:29
  of
• 12:30
  in
• 12:30
  your
• 12:30
  30s,
• 12:30
  40s,
• 12:31
  and
• 12:31
  50s,
• 12:31
  as
• 12:32
  most
• 12:32
  people
• 12:32
  do.
• 12:33
  You're
• 12:33
  precocious.
• 12:34
  I
• 12:35
  was
• 12:35
  totally
• 12:35
  precocious.
• 12:36
  And
• 12:36
  I
• 12:36
  think,
• 12:37
  actually,
• 12:38
  I.
• 12:38
  I
• 12:38
  feel
• 12:38
  so
• 12:39
  grateful
• 12:39
  that
• 12:39
  that
• 12:40
  happened,
• 12:40
  even
• 12:40
  though,
• 12:41
  boy,
• 12:41
  it
• 12:41
  was
• 12:41
  hard,
• 12:42
  because,
• 12:42
  you
• 12:43
  know
• 12:43
  how
• 12:43
  we
• 12:44
  go
• 12:44
  through
• 12:44
  big
• 12:45
  things,
• 12:45
  and
• 12:45
  every
• 12:45
  human
• 12:46
  being
• 12:46
  goes
• 12:46
  through
• 12:46
  big
• 12:47
  things
• 12:47
  that
• 12:47
  are
• 12:48
  edgy,
• 12:49
  that
• 12:49
  from
• 12:49
  a
• 12:49
  shamanic
• 12:50
  perspective
• 12:51
  might
• 12:51
  be
• 12:51
  called
• 12:51
  a
• 12:51
  shamanic
• 12:52
  initiation
• 12:53
  that
• 12:54
  take
• 12:54
  us
• 12:54
  a
• 12:55
  little
• 12:55
  further
• 12:56
  than
• 12:56
  our
• 12:57
  edge.
• 12:57
  And
• 12:58
  there's
• 12:58
  an
• 12:58
  opportunity
• 12:59
  in
• 12:59
  that
• 12:59
  edgy
• 13:00
  space
• 13:01
  to,
• 13:02
  you
• 13:02
  know,
• 13:03
  for
• 13:03
  something
• 13:03
  to
• 13:03
  die
• 13:03
  and
• 13:04
  something
• 13:04
  new
• 13:05
  to
• 13:05
  wake
• 13:05
  up.
• 13:05
  And
• 13:07
  I
• 13:07
  just
• 13:07
  feel
• 13:07
  that
• 13:07
  that
• 13:07
  was
• 13:08
  divine
• 13:09
  grace
• 13:10
  saying,
• 13:11
  let's
• 13:11
  get
• 13:11
  this
• 13:11
  girl
• 13:12
  on
• 13:12
  the
• 13:12
  path.
• 13:12
  Let's
• 13:13
  save
• 13:13
  time.
• 13:13
  She's
• 13:13
  got
• 13:14
  some
• 13:14
  work
• 13:14
  to
• 13:14
  do.
• 13:15
  And
• 13:15
  let's
• 13:15
  just
• 13:16
  speed
• 13:16
  it
• 13:16
  up
• 13:16
  here,
• 13:17
  because
• 13:18
  in
• 13:18
  that
• 13:18
  fire,
• 13:19
  I
• 13:19
  got
• 13:20
  to
• 13:20
  be
• 13:21
  very
• 13:21
  close
• 13:22
  to
• 13:22
  all
• 13:22
  sorts
• 13:23
  of
• 13:23
  other
• 13:23
  forms
• 13:24
  of
• 13:24
  existential
• 13:25
  human
• 13:26
  crises
• 13:26
  and
• 13:27
  suffering.
• 13:28
  I
• 13:28
  got
• 13:29
  to
• 13:29
  be
• 13:29
  in
• 13:29
  a
• 13:30
  room
• 13:31
  with
• 13:31
  people
• 13:32
  who.
• 13:32
  Who
• 13:32
  had
• 13:33
  slit
• 13:33
  their
• 13:33
  wrists
• 13:34
  the
• 13:34
  night
• 13:34
  before
• 13:34
  and
• 13:35
  were
• 13:35
  just
• 13:35
  wheeled
• 13:35
  in
• 13:36
  from
• 13:36
  emergency
• 13:37
  now
• 13:37
  to
• 13:37
  have
• 13:37
  psychiatric
• 13:38
  treatment.
• 13:39
  I
• 13:39
  got
• 13:39
  to
• 13:39
  be
• 13:40
  up
• 13:40
  close
• 13:40
  and
• 13:41
  personal
• 13:41
  as
• 13:41
  a
• 13:42
  teenager
• 13:42
  with
• 13:43
  schizophrenic
• 13:44
  outbursts,
• 13:45
  with
• 13:45
  people
• 13:45
  in
• 13:46
  despair,
• 13:47
  with
• 13:47
  people
• 13:48
  coming
• 13:48
  off
• 13:49
  drug
• 13:50
  and
• 13:50
  narcotic
• 13:51
  addiction.
• 13:52
  And
• 13:52
  I
• 13:52
  was
• 13:52
  hanging
• 13:53
  out
• 13:53
  with
• 13:53
  them,
• 13:53
  going
• 13:54
  for
• 13:54
  walks
• 13:55
  with
• 13:55
  these
• 13:55
  people,
• 13:56
  being
• 13:56
  with
• 13:57
  them
• 13:57
  in
• 13:57
  my
• 13:58
  suffering
• 13:58
  in
• 13:58
  these
• 13:59
  fragile
• 14:00
  states
• 14:00
  that
• 14:00
  we
• 14:00
  were
• 14:01
  all
• 14:01
  in.
• 14:02
  And
• 14:03
  I
• 14:03
  am
• 14:03
  not
• 14:03
  afraid
• 14:04
  of
• 14:04
  those
• 14:04
  places.
• 14:05
  I
• 14:06
  feel
• 14:07
  so
• 14:07
  fortunate
• 14:08
  to
• 14:08
  have
• 14:08
  had
• 14:09
  direct
• 14:10
  encounters
• 14:11
  at
• 14:11
  such
• 14:11
  a
• 14:11
  formative
• 14:12
  age
• 14:13
  with
• 14:14
  all
• 14:14
  these
• 14:14
  different
• 14:15
  forms
• 14:15
  of
• 14:17
  human,
• 14:17
  spiritual,
• 14:18
  psychological
• 14:19
  suffering
• 14:20
  and
• 14:21
  what
• 14:21
  a
• 14:22
  soul
• 14:22
  is
• 14:22
  grappling
• 14:23
  with.
• 14:24
  You
• 14:25
  know,
• 14:25
  the
• 14:25
  things
• 14:26
  that
• 14:26
  they
• 14:26
  don't
• 14:27
  feel
• 14:27
  they
• 14:27
  have
• 14:28
  the
• 14:28
  strength
• 14:28
  or
• 14:29
  the
• 14:29
  capacity
• 14:30
  to
• 14:30
  face
• 14:31
  or
• 14:32
  the
• 14:32
  things
• 14:32
  that
• 14:32
  have
• 14:33
  happened
• 14:33
  to
• 14:33
  them
• 14:33
  that
• 14:34
  have
• 14:34
  been
• 14:34
  too
• 14:35
  much.
• 14:36
  And
• 14:36
  no
• 14:36
  one
• 14:37
  knowing
• 14:37
  how
• 14:37
  to
• 14:38
  ask
• 14:38
  the
• 14:38
  questions,
• 14:39
  how
• 14:39
  to
• 14:40
  be
• 14:40
  with
• 14:40
  you
• 14:41
  and
• 14:41
  just
• 14:42
  hold
• 14:42
  your
• 14:42
  hand
• 14:42
  and
• 14:43
  just
• 14:43
  be
• 14:44
  there
• 14:45
  and
• 14:46
  in
• 14:46
  the
• 14:46
  right
• 14:47
  moment,
• 14:48
  waiting
• 14:49
  for
• 14:49
  the
• 14:49
  right
• 14:50
  moment
• 14:51
  to
• 14:52
  just
• 14:52
  say
• 14:52
  something
• 14:53
  so
• 14:53
  homeopathic,
• 14:54
  like
• 14:55
  what's
• 14:55
  too
• 14:56
  much?
• 14:58
  What
• 14:58
  hurts?
• 15:00
  Or
• 15:00
  what
• 15:00
  do
• 15:00
  you
• 15:00
  feel?
• 15:02
  And
• 15:02
  I
• 15:03
  know
• 15:03
  from
• 15:03
  my
• 15:03
  own
• 15:03
  experience
• 15:04
  that
• 15:04
  often
• 15:04
  in
• 15:05
  those
• 15:05
  places
• 15:05
  there
• 15:06
  aren't
• 15:06
  words.
• 15:07
  You
• 15:07
  don't
• 15:08
  have
• 15:08
  the
• 15:08
  words,
• 15:08
  but
• 15:08
  you're
• 15:09
  feeling
• 15:09
  it.
• 15:11
  And
• 15:12
  I
• 15:12
  don't
• 15:13
  know.
• 15:13
  I'm
• 15:13
  probably
• 15:14
  sure
• 15:14
  I
• 15:15
  wouldn't
• 15:15
  know.
• 15:16
  I
• 15:16
  wouldn't
• 15:16
  have
• 15:17
  the
• 15:17
  capacities
• 15:17
  that
• 15:18
  I
• 15:18
  actually
• 15:18
  do
• 15:20
  to
• 15:20
  be
• 15:20
  with
• 15:20
  people
• 15:21
  very
• 15:21
  deeply
• 15:22
  on
• 15:22
  a
• 15:22
  soul
• 15:23
  level
• 15:24
  in
• 15:24
  these
• 15:25
  super
• 15:26
  important
• 15:26
  crucibles
• 15:28
  where
• 15:29
  spiritual
• 15:31
  and
• 15:31
  human
• 15:32
  is
• 15:32
  kind
• 15:32
  of
• 15:33
  crunching
• 15:33
  together
• 15:34
  in
• 15:34
  some
• 15:35
  very
• 15:35
  important
• 15:36
  way
• 15:37
  that
• 15:37
  I
• 15:37
  regard
• 15:38
  as
• 15:38
  a
• 15:38
  holy
• 15:39
  juncture.
• 15:41
  I
• 15:41
  really
• 15:41
  do.
• 15:42
  So
• 15:42
  I
• 15:43
  don't
• 15:43
  look
• 15:44
  at
• 15:45
  things
• 15:45
  with
• 15:45
  those
• 15:46
  clinical
• 15:46
  terms
• 15:47
  because
• 15:47
  my
• 15:47
  own
• 15:47
  experience
• 15:48
  says
• 15:48
  perhaps
• 15:49
  it's
• 15:49
  not.
• 15:50
  Perhaps
• 15:51
  there's
• 15:51
  more
• 15:51
  going
• 15:52
  on.
• 15:53
  Yeah.
• 15:53
  Let
• 15:53
  me
• 15:53
  reflect
• 15:54
  too.
• 15:54
  I.
• 15:54
  My
• 15:55
  first
• 15:55
  opening,
• 15:55
  when
• 15:56
  I
• 15:56
  was,
• 15:56
  I
• 15:56
  don't
• 15:56
  know,
• 15:56
  11
• 15:57
  or
• 15:57
  12
• 15:57
  years
• 15:57
  old.
• 15:57
  Pre.
• 15:58
  Adult.
• 15:58
  Wow.
• 15:59
  But
• 15:59
  it
• 15:59
  was
• 16:00
  the
• 16:00
  same.
• 16:00
  I
• 16:00
  think
• 16:00
  the
• 16:01
  questions
• 16:01
  you
• 16:01
  were
• 16:01
  asking
• 16:02
  were
• 16:02
  very
• 16:02
  noble
• 16:02
  questions
• 16:03
  like,
• 16:03
  what
• 16:04
  the
• 16:04
  f.
• 16:04
  God.
• 16:05
  You
• 16:05
  know,
• 16:06
  like,
• 16:06
  what
• 16:06
  is
• 16:06
  up?
• 16:07
  I
• 16:07
  was
• 16:07
  hurt,
• 16:08
  I
• 16:08
  was
• 16:08
  angry.
• 16:08
  I
• 16:08
  had
• 16:09
  one
• 16:09
  brother
• 16:09
  who
• 16:09
  was
• 16:09
  an
• 16:09
  infantryman
• 16:10
  in
• 16:10
  Vietnam,
• 16:11
  got
• 16:11
  wounded
• 16:12
  three
• 16:12
  different
• 16:12
  times.
• 16:12
  Is
• 16:13
  right
• 16:13
  in
• 16:13
  the
• 16:13
  middle
• 16:13
  of
• 16:13
  it.
• 16:14
  I
• 16:14
  think
• 16:14
  he
• 16:14
  was
• 16:14
  like
• 16:15
  18
• 16:15
  years
• 16:15
  old,
• 16:15
  19.
• 16:17
  All
• 16:17
  this.
• 16:17
  And
• 16:17
  I
• 16:18
  had
• 16:18
  one
• 16:18
  brother
• 16:18
  run
• 16:18
  off.
• 16:19
  My
• 16:19
  other
• 16:19
  brother,
• 16:19
  both
• 16:19
  older,
• 16:20
  run
• 16:20
  off
• 16:21
  to
• 16:21
  be
• 16:21
  a
• 16:21
  hippie
• 16:21
  and
• 16:21
  hate
• 16:22
  Asbury
• 16:22
  in
• 16:22
  New
• 16:23
  York
• 16:23
  and
• 16:23
  traveled
• 16:24
  the
• 16:24
  country.
• 16:24
  Did
• 16:24
  he.
• 16:25
  And
• 16:25
  I
• 16:25
  was
• 16:25
  left
• 16:25
  alone.
• 16:26
  And
• 16:26
  I
• 16:26
  didn't
• 16:27
  get
• 16:27
  it.
• 16:27
  You
• 16:27
  know,
• 16:27
  my
• 16:28
  parents
• 16:28
  were
• 16:28
  very
• 16:28
  Republican
• 16:29
  conservative.
• 16:30
  Not
• 16:30
  like
• 16:30
  Republicans
• 16:31
  today.
• 16:31
  But
• 16:31
  yeah,
• 16:32
  I
• 16:32
  get
• 16:32
  it.
• 16:32
  There's
• 16:33
  a
• 16:33
  big
• 16:33
  difference.
• 16:33
  And
• 16:33
  I
• 16:34
  was
• 16:34
  just.
• 16:34
  I
• 16:34
  was
• 16:34
  lost.
• 16:35
  And
• 16:35
  I
• 16:36
  had
• 16:36
  this
• 16:36
  big
• 16:36
  opening.
• 16:37
  One
• 16:38
  thing
• 16:38
  I
• 16:38
  didn't
• 16:38
  find,
• 16:39
  and
• 16:39
  I
• 16:39
  wanted
• 16:39
  to
• 16:39
  ask
• 16:39
  you,
• 16:40
  when
• 16:40
  you
• 16:41
  had
• 16:41
  this
• 16:41
  opening
• 16:41
  as.
• 16:42
  As
• 16:42
  a
• 16:42
  young
• 16:42
  woman
• 16:43
  and
• 16:44
  you
• 16:44
  asked
• 16:45
  the
• 16:45
  right
• 16:45
  question.
• 16:45
  The
• 16:46
  story
• 16:46
  of
• 16:46
  Parsifal
• 16:47
  has
• 16:47
  been
• 16:47
  a
• 16:47
  big
• 16:48
  part
• 16:48
  of
• 16:48
  my
• 16:48
  life
• 16:48
  and.
• 16:49
  And
• 16:49
  teaching
• 16:50
  and
• 16:50
  sharing.
• 16:50
  And
• 16:51
  as
• 16:51
  a
• 16:51
  young
• 16:51
  man,
• 16:52
  he
• 16:52
  finds
• 16:52
  a
• 16:53
  grill
• 16:53
  castle
• 16:54
  and
• 16:54
  then
• 16:54
  he
• 16:54
  loses
• 16:55
  the
• 16:55
  vision
• 16:55
  because
• 16:56
  he
• 16:56
  didn't
• 16:56
  ask
• 16:56
  the
• 16:56
  right
• 16:56
  questions,
• 16:57
  you
• 16:58
  know,
• 16:58
  and
• 16:58
  it
• 16:58
  seems
• 16:59
  like
• 16:59
  you
• 16:59
  were
• 16:59
  asking
• 17:00
  the
• 17:00
  right
• 17:00
  questions.
• 17:01
  And
• 17:01
  after
• 17:01
  this
• 17:02
  opening,
• 17:03
  this
• 17:03
  awakening,
• 17:04
  did
• 17:05
  you
• 17:06
  find
• 17:06
  mentors
• 17:07
  to
• 17:07
  help
• 17:07
  you
• 17:08
  to
• 17:08
  understand
• 17:09
  what's
• 17:09
  going
• 17:09
  on?
• 17:10
  Because
• 17:10
  I
• 17:10
  didn't
• 17:10
  for
• 17:11
  many
• 17:11
  years.
• 17:11
  I
• 17:11
  didn't
• 17:12
  for
• 17:12
  many
• 17:12
  years
• 17:12
  either.
• 17:13
  But
• 17:13
  you
• 17:13
  know
• 17:13
  what?
• 17:14
  One
• 17:14
  of
• 17:14
  the
• 17:14
  things
• 17:14
  I've
• 17:15
  learned
• 17:15
  about
• 17:16
  grace,
• 17:17
  you
• 17:17
  know,
• 17:17
  when
• 17:17
  it
• 17:18
  arrives,
• 17:19
  is
• 17:19
  that
• 17:19
  it
• 17:19
  always
• 17:20
  brings
• 17:20
  what's
• 17:21
  needed.
• 17:22
  And
• 17:22
  that's
• 17:22
  part
• 17:23
  of
• 17:23
  the
• 17:23
  mystery
• 17:23
  and
• 17:24
  the
• 17:24
  miraculous
• 17:25
  nature
• 17:25
  of
• 17:25
  it.
• 17:26
  And
• 17:27
  part
• 17:27
  of
• 17:27
  a
• 17:28
  bit
• 17:28
  of
• 17:28
  direction
• 17:29
  that
• 17:29
  came
• 17:29
  spontaneously
• 17:30
  somehow
• 17:31
  with
• 17:31
  the
• 17:32
  opening
• 17:32
  into
• 17:32
  boundless
• 17:33
  love
• 17:33
  was
• 17:34
  don't
• 17:34
  speak
• 17:34
  to
• 17:34
  anybody
• 17:35
  about
• 17:35
  this
• 17:35
  till
• 17:36
  you're
• 17:36
  an
• 17:36
  adult.
• 17:40
  And
• 17:40
  I'm
• 17:40
  very
• 17:40
  glad
• 17:41
  for
• 17:41
  that
• 17:41
  little
• 17:42
  piece
• 17:42
  of
• 17:42
  nugget
• 17:43
  because
• 17:43
  had
• 17:44
  I
• 17:44
  spoken
• 17:44
  to
• 17:44
  anybody
• 17:45
  about
• 17:45
  this,
• 17:45
  I
• 17:45
  probably
• 17:46
  wouldn't
• 17:46
  have
• 17:46
  been
• 17:46
  discharged
• 17:47
  a
• 17:47
  week
• 17:47
  later,
• 17:49
  for
• 17:49
  starters.
• 17:50
  And
• 17:51
  secondly,
• 17:51
  I
• 17:52
  knew
• 17:52
  they
• 17:52
  would
• 17:53
  not
• 17:53
  have
• 17:53
  understand
• 17:53
  it,
• 17:54
  and
• 17:54
  it
• 17:54
  would
• 17:54
  have
• 17:55
  been
• 17:55
  judged
• 17:56
  or
• 17:56
  dismissed
• 17:58
  or
• 17:59
  ridiculed
• 18:00
  or
• 18:01
  not
• 18:01
  met
• 18:01
  with
• 18:02
  what
• 18:02
  was
• 18:02
  needed.
• 18:03
  And
• 18:03
  it
• 18:03
  was
• 18:03
  too
• 18:03
  precious
• 18:04
  to
• 18:04
  me
• 18:04
  to
• 18:05
  risk
• 18:05
  that.
• 18:07
  So
• 18:07
  I
• 18:07
  didn't
• 18:08
  find
• 18:08
  any
• 18:08
  people
• 18:09
  that
• 18:10
  I
• 18:10
  could
• 18:10
  speak
• 18:10
  to
• 18:10
  about
• 18:11
  this
• 18:11
  until
• 18:11
  I'd
• 18:12
  left
• 18:12
  my
• 18:12
  family
• 18:13
  home
• 18:13
  and
• 18:13
  I
• 18:13
  was
• 18:13
  about
• 18:14
  7.
• 18:14
  Talk
• 18:14
  to
• 18:14
  your
• 18:14
  friends
• 18:15
  about
• 18:15
  it.
• 18:15
  I
• 18:15
  mean,
• 18:15
  you're
• 18:16
  nobody.
• 18:17
  Nobody.
• 18:19
  And
• 18:20
  then,
• 18:20
  you
• 18:21
  know,
• 18:21
  as
• 18:21
  soon
• 18:21
  as
• 18:21
  I
• 18:22
  was
• 18:22
  old
• 18:22
  enough
• 18:22
  to
• 18:23
  start
• 18:24
  looking,
• 18:24
  you
• 18:25
  know,
• 18:25
  I
• 18:25
  found
• 18:26
  I
• 18:26
  was
• 18:26
  growing
• 18:27
  up
• 18:27
  in
• 18:27
  Perth,
• 18:27
  Western
• 18:28
  Australia,
• 18:28
  which
• 18:28
  is
• 18:28
  like
• 18:29
  20
• 18:29
  years
• 18:29
  behind
• 18:29
  everywhere
• 18:30
  else.
• 18:30
  Roger
• 18:30
  would
• 18:31
  have
• 18:31
  some
• 18:31
  sense
• 18:31
  of
• 18:32
  that,
• 18:32
  being
• 18:32
  from
• 18:33
  a
• 18:33
  different
• 18:33
  part
• 18:33
  of
• 18:34
  Australia.
• 18:34
  But,
• 18:35
  you
• 18:35
  know,
• 18:35
  Western
• 18:35
  Australia
• 18:36
  is
• 18:36
  even
• 18:36
  further
• 18:37
  away
• 18:37
  from
• 18:37
  the
• 18:38
  rest
• 18:38
  of
• 18:38
  Australia.
• 18:38
  So
• 18:39
  it's
• 18:39
  kind
• 18:39
  of
• 18:39
  behind
• 18:40
  what
• 18:40
  it
• 18:40
  was
• 18:40
  when
• 18:40
  I
• 18:41
  was
• 18:41
  growing
• 18:41
  up
• 18:41
  there.
• 18:42
  So
• 18:42
  the
• 18:43
  only
• 18:43
  two
• 18:44
  things
• 18:44
  in
• 18:44
  town
• 18:45
  were
• 18:46
  the
• 18:46
  Osho
• 18:47
  Rajneesh
• 18:47
  bunch,
• 18:48
  and
• 18:49
  I
• 18:49
  was
• 18:50
  too
• 18:50
  shy.
• 18:50
  And
• 18:50
  the
• 18:51
  whole
• 18:51
  sexuality
• 18:52
  of
• 18:52
  all
• 18:52
  of
• 18:52
  that
• 18:52
  was
• 18:52
  way
• 18:53
  too
• 18:53
  overwhelming
• 18:54
  for
• 18:54
  me
• 18:54
  to
• 18:54
  get
• 18:54
  too
• 18:54
  close
• 18:55
  to
• 18:55
  it
• 18:55
  as
• 18:55
  a
• 18:55
  young
• 18:56
  girl.
• 18:57
  And
• 18:57
  then
• 18:57
  there
• 18:57
  were
• 18:57
  theosophical
• 18:58
  society,
• 18:59
  and
• 18:59
  that
• 19:00
  was
• 19:00
  more
• 19:00
  comfortable.
• 19:01
  So
• 19:01
  I
• 19:01
  could
• 19:01
  walk
• 19:02
  into
• 19:02
  this.
• 19:03
  I
• 19:03
  still
• 19:03
  remember
• 19:04
  it
• 19:04
  very
• 19:04
  vividly,
• 19:05
  you
• 19:05
  know,
• 19:05
  this
• 19:05
  house,
• 19:06
  you
• 19:06
  know,
• 19:07
  with
• 19:07
  all
• 19:07
  these
• 19:07
  dusty
• 19:08
  bookshelves.
• 19:09
  And
• 19:09
  I'm
• 19:09
  gravitating
• 19:10
  to,
• 19:11
  you
• 19:11
  know,
• 19:12
  I
• 19:12
  mean,
• 19:12
  it's
• 19:12
  all
• 19:12
  grace,
• 19:13
  really.
• 19:13
  I'm
• 19:14
  gravitating
• 19:14
  to.
• 19:15
  First
• 19:15
  thing
• 19:15
  I
• 19:16
  pull
• 19:16
  off
• 19:16
  the
• 19:16
  shelf.
• 19:17
  Ramakrishna
• 19:17
  Vivekananda,
• 19:18
  Anandamayima,
• 19:20
  Yogananda,
• 19:21
  all
• 19:21
  the
• 19:21
  Eastern
• 19:22
  sages.
• 19:23
  And,
• 19:23
  you
• 19:24
  know,
• 19:24
  then
• 19:24
  I
• 19:24
  picked
• 19:24
  up
• 19:24
  a
• 19:25
  bit
• 19:25
  of
• 19:25
  Guruji
• 19:25
  from
• 19:25
  Blavatsky
• 19:26
  and
• 19:26
  Seth
• 19:27
  Speaks,
• 19:27
  and
• 19:28
  that's
• 19:29
  what
• 19:29
  I
• 19:29
  was
• 19:29
  reading
• 19:29
  and
• 19:29
  getting
• 19:30
  into.
• 19:30
  And
• 19:31
  also
• 19:31
  I
• 19:31
  happened
• 19:31
  upon
• 19:32
  Jerry
• 19:32
  Jampolsky's
• 19:33
  Love
• 19:33
  Is
• 19:33
  Letting
• 19:34
  Go
• 19:34
  of
• 19:34
  Fear,
• 19:35
  which
• 19:35
  was
• 19:35
  beautiful
• 19:36
  because
• 19:37
  I
• 19:37
  remember
• 19:37
  reading
• 19:38
  that
• 19:38
  on
• 19:39
  my
• 19:39
  bed
• 19:39
  as
• 19:39
  a
• 19:39
  teenager
• 19:40
  and
• 19:41
  just
• 19:41
  putting
• 19:41
  it
• 19:42
  down
• 19:42
  every
• 19:42
  now
• 19:42
  and
• 19:42
  again.
• 19:43
  And
• 19:43
  it's
• 19:43
  starting
• 19:44
  to
• 19:45
  help
• 19:45
  me
• 19:45
  remember
• 19:46
  some
• 19:46
  of
• 19:47
  the
• 19:47
  implications
• 19:48
  of
• 19:49
  this
• 19:49
  love
• 19:50
  and
• 19:50
  to
• 19:51
  let
• 19:51
  that
• 19:51
  help
• 19:52
  me
• 19:52
  open
• 19:53
  my
• 19:53
  mind
• 19:53
  and
• 19:54
  my
• 19:54
  heart
• 19:54
  to
• 19:55
  the
• 19:55
  things
• 19:56
  in
• 19:56
  my
• 19:56
  family
• 19:57
  structure
• 19:57
  and
• 19:57
  the
• 19:57
  behaviors
• 19:58
  and
• 19:59
  that
• 19:59
  I
• 19:59
  didn't
• 20:00
  like
• 20:00
  and
• 20:00
  Found
• 20:00
  really
• 20:01
  painful
• 20:01
  and
• 20:01
  difficult.
• 20:02
  But
• 20:02
  it
• 20:03
  was
• 20:03
  really
• 20:03
  when
• 20:03
  I
• 20:03
  left
• 20:04
  my
• 20:04
  family
• 20:04
  home
• 20:04
  and
• 20:05
  I
• 20:05
  found
• 20:05
  a
• 20:05
  yoga
• 20:06
  teacher
• 20:06
  who
• 20:06
  happened
• 20:07
  to
• 20:07
  just.
• 20:07
  Again,
• 20:08
  it's
• 20:08
  all
• 20:08
  grace,
• 20:09
  you
• 20:09
  know,
• 20:09
  I
• 20:09
  found
• 20:09
  a
• 20:10
  real
• 20:10
  teacher
• 20:11
  who
• 20:12
  was
• 20:12
  amazing.
• 20:12
  And
• 20:13
  he
• 20:13
  only
• 20:13
  took
• 20:13
  eight
• 20:14
  students
• 20:14
  at
• 20:14
  a
• 20:14
  time
• 20:15
  in
• 20:15
  a
• 20:15
  class.
• 20:16
  And
• 20:16
  he
• 20:16
  was
• 20:17
  a
• 20:17
  direct
• 20:17
  disciple
• 20:17
  of
• 20:18
  our
• 20:18
  younger.
• 20:18
  And,
• 20:19
  you
• 20:19
  know,
• 20:19
  he
• 20:20
  was
• 20:20
  very
• 20:20
  strict,
• 20:21
  and
• 20:22
  we
• 20:22
  got
• 20:22
  adjusted
• 20:23
  in
• 20:23
  every
• 20:23
  pose
• 20:24
  and
• 20:25
  he
• 20:25
  could
• 20:25
  tell
• 20:25
  what
• 20:25
  was
• 20:25
  going
• 20:26
  on
• 20:26
  with
• 20:26
  you
• 20:26
  all.
• 20:26
  I
• 20:27
  mean,
• 20:27
  I
• 20:27
  still
• 20:27
  hear
• 20:27
  his
• 20:28
  voice
• 20:28
  anytime
• 20:29
  I
• 20:29
  do
• 20:29
  any
• 20:29
  hatha
• 20:30
  yoga.
• 20:31
  And
• 20:31
  I
• 20:31
  feel,
• 20:32
  remember
• 20:32
  him
• 20:33
  coming
• 20:33
  in,
• 20:33
  tapping
• 20:34
  my
• 20:34
  toe
• 20:34
  and
• 20:35
  reminding
• 20:35
  me,
• 20:36
  miranda,
• 20:36
  this
• 20:36
  is
• 20:36
  not
• 20:36
  gymnastics,
• 20:37
  this
• 20:37
  is
• 20:37
  yoga.
• 20:38
  There's
• 20:38
  no
• 20:38
  awareness
• 20:39
  in
• 20:39
  your
• 20:39
  toe.
• 20:39
  You're
• 20:39
  not
• 20:39
  present.
• 20:42
  And
• 20:43
  every
• 20:43
  class
• 20:43
  ended
• 20:44
  with
• 20:44
  pranayama.
• 20:46
  And
• 20:46
  it
• 20:46
  was
• 20:46
  amazing.
• 20:47
  It
• 20:47
  started
• 20:47
  to
• 20:47
  iron
• 20:48
  me
• 20:48
  out
• 20:48
  because
• 20:49
  I
• 20:49
  had
• 20:49
  a
• 20:49
  lot
• 20:49
  of
• 20:49
  trauma,
• 20:50
  as
• 20:50
  you
• 20:50
  can
• 20:50
  imagine,
• 20:52
  and
• 20:52
  a
• 20:52
  lot
• 20:52
  of
• 20:53
  material.
• 20:54
  I
• 20:54
  had
• 20:54
  to
• 20:54
  work
• 20:55
  through
• 20:56
  conflicts
• 20:57
  and
• 20:57
  suffering
• 20:57
  and
• 20:58
  trauma
• 20:58
  and
• 20:59
  just
• 20:59
  wounding.
• 21:00
  You
• 21:00
  know,
• 21:01
  most
• 21:01
  of
• 21:01
  us
• 21:01
  have
• 21:01
  from
• 21:02
  our
• 21:02
  childhood.
• 21:02
  I
• 21:02
  certainly
• 21:03
  had
• 21:03
  plenty
• 21:04
  of
• 21:04
  that.
• 21:05
  And
• 21:05
  I
• 21:05
  was
• 21:05
  very
• 21:06
  aware
• 21:06
  this
• 21:06
  needed
• 21:07
  to
• 21:07
  be
• 21:07
  addressed.
• 21:08
  Just
• 21:08
  because
• 21:08
  I
• 21:09
  had
• 21:09
  tasted
• 21:09
  this
• 21:10
  reality
• 21:11
  didn't
• 21:11
  mean
• 21:12
  I
• 21:12
  was
• 21:12
  capable
• 21:12
  of
• 21:13
  living
• 21:13
  it
• 21:13
  a
• 21:14
  long
• 21:14
  shot
• 21:14
  off.
• 21:15
  And
• 21:15
  I
• 21:16
  knew
• 21:16
  that.
• 21:17
  So
• 21:17
  I
• 21:17
  knew,
• 21:18
  okay,
• 21:19
  we
• 21:19
  need
• 21:19
  to
• 21:19
  get
• 21:19
  to
• 21:19
  work
• 21:20
  here.
• 21:21
  And
• 21:21
  I
• 21:21
  was
• 21:21
  motivated
• 21:22
  because
• 21:22
  as
• 21:23
  a
• 21:23
  young
• 21:23
  adult,
• 21:23
  I
• 21:23
  was
• 21:23
  starting
• 21:24
  to
• 21:24
  see
• 21:25
  things
• 21:25
  about
• 21:26
  what
• 21:26
  was
• 21:27
  coming
• 21:27
  out
• 21:27
  of
• 21:27
  me
• 21:28
  in
• 21:28
  my
• 21:28
  interpersonal
• 21:29
  relationships.
• 21:30
  Insecurities,
• 21:32
  judgment,
• 21:32
  self
• 21:33
  hatred.
• 21:33
  You
• 21:34
  know,
• 21:34
  that
• 21:34
  tough,
• 21:34
  crunchy
• 21:35
  material
• 21:36
  that
• 21:36
  we
• 21:37
  have
• 21:37
  to.
• 21:37
  What
• 21:37
  I
• 21:37
  call
• 21:37
  the
• 21:38
  meat
• 21:38
  sauce
• 21:38
  of
• 21:38
  the
• 21:38
  lasagna
• 21:39
  that
• 21:39
  we
• 21:39
  have
• 21:40
  to
• 21:41
  deal
• 21:41
  with,
• 21:41
  that
• 21:41
  we
• 21:42
  have
• 21:42
  to
• 21:42
  tackle
• 21:43
  in
• 21:43
  ourselves.
• 21:44
  And
• 21:44
  I
• 21:44
  went
• 21:44
  for
• 21:45
  it
• 21:45
  in
• 21:45
  my
• 21:45
  20s.
• 21:46
  I
• 21:46
  was
• 21:46
  very
• 21:46
  aware
• 21:47
  of
• 21:47
  all
• 21:47
  of
• 21:47
  that
• 21:47
  and
• 21:49
  what
• 21:49
  works,
• 21:50
  you
• 21:50
  know,
• 21:51
  what
• 21:51
  do
• 21:51
  I
• 21:51
  need?
• 21:52
  Yeah,
• 21:53
  and
• 21:53
  you
• 21:54
  are
• 21:54
  definitely
• 21:54
  a
• 21:55
  person
• 21:55
  of
• 21:55
  the
• 21:55
  times,
• 21:56
  having
• 21:56
  explored
• 21:57
  so
• 21:57
  many
• 21:58
  traditions.
• 21:59
  You
• 21:59
  know,
• 21:59
  I
• 22:00
  want
• 22:00
  to
• 22:00
  go
• 22:00
  back
• 22:00
  to
• 22:01
  that
• 22:01
  opening
• 22:02
  for
• 22:02
  a
• 22:02
  moment
• 22:02
  because
• 22:04
  you
• 22:04
  made
• 22:04
  sense
• 22:05
  of
• 22:05
  it
• 22:05
  for
• 22:05
  me
• 22:06
  and
• 22:06
  I
• 22:06
  think
• 22:06
  for
• 22:06
  all
• 22:06
  of
• 22:07
  us,
• 22:07
  in
• 22:07
  as
• 22:07
  much
• 22:07
  as
• 22:07
  you,
• 22:09
  this
• 22:09
  was
• 22:09
  not
• 22:09
  a
• 22:10
  typical
• 22:10
  teenage
• 22:11
  depression.
• 22:12
  This
• 22:12
  was
• 22:13
  really
• 22:13
  an
• 22:14
  existential
• 22:14
  crisis.
• 22:15
  But
• 22:16
  as
• 22:16
  I
• 22:16
  say
• 22:16
  that,
• 22:17
  I'm
• 22:17
  thinking,
• 22:17
  well,
• 22:18
  you
• 22:18
  know,
• 22:18
  there's
• 22:19
  element
• 22:19
  of
• 22:19
  existential
• 22:20
  crisis
• 22:21
  to
• 22:21
  many
• 22:22
  teenage
• 22:22
  depression.
• 22:24
  I
• 22:24
  think
• 22:25
  so.
• 22:25
  And
• 22:25
  especially
• 22:26
  for
• 22:26
  people
• 22:27
  now.
• 22:28
  I
• 22:28
  mean,
• 22:29
  God
• 22:29
  bless
• 22:30
  the
• 22:30
  young
• 22:30
  people,
• 22:30
  my
• 22:31
  goodness,
• 22:31
  you
• 22:32
  know,
• 22:32
  like,
• 22:33
  that
• 22:33
  was
• 22:33
  me
• 22:35
  in
• 22:35
  the
• 22:35
  mid
• 22:35
  early
• 22:36
  80s.
• 22:36
  Like,
• 22:37
  how
• 22:37
  much
• 22:38
  harder
• 22:38
  must
• 22:39
  it
• 22:39
  be
• 22:40
  to
• 22:40
  be,
• 22:41
  you
• 22:41
  know,
• 22:41
  that
• 22:41
  age
• 22:42
  now
• 22:43
  in
• 22:44
  this
• 22:44
  time,
• 22:45
  you
• 22:45
  know,
• 22:45
  with
• 22:46
  climate
• 22:46
  change
• 22:47
  and
• 22:48
  all
• 22:48
  things
• 22:48
  trump
• 22:49
  and
• 22:50
  the
• 22:50
  discord
• 22:51
  and
• 22:51
  the
• 22:52
  misinformation
• 22:53
  and
• 22:53
  AI,
• 22:55
  you
• 22:55
  know,
• 22:56
  people
• 22:57
  that
• 22:57
  developed
• 22:57
  it
• 22:58
  didn't
• 22:58
  think
• 22:58
  to
• 22:58
  build
• 22:59
  ethical
• 22:59
  codes
• 23:00
  right
• 23:00
  into
• 23:00
  the
• 23:01
  foundation
• 23:01
  of
• 23:01
  it
• 23:01
  from
• 23:01
  the
• 23:02
  get
• 23:02
  go.
• 23:02
  And
• 23:03
  who
• 23:03
  knows,
• 23:04
  you
• 23:04
  know,
• 23:04
  social
• 23:05
  media,
• 23:05
  I
• 23:05
  mean,
• 23:05
  just.
• 23:06
  It's
• 23:06
  so
• 23:06
  much
• 23:06
  harder
• 23:07
  now.
• 23:08
  Yeah.
• 23:08
  I
• 23:09
  just
• 23:09
  feel
• 23:10
  people
• 23:10
  like
• 23:10
  us
• 23:10
  right
• 23:11
  here
• 23:11
  and
• 23:11
  now
• 23:11
  we
• 23:12
  have
• 23:12
  absolute
• 23:14
  need
• 23:14
  to
• 23:15
  help
• 23:16
  in
• 23:16
  whatever
• 23:16
  way
• 23:16
  we
• 23:17
  can
• 23:17
  help
• 23:17
  the
• 23:18
  generations
• 23:18
  after
• 23:19
  us
• 23:19
  make
• 23:19
  it
• 23:19
  a
• 23:19
  little
• 23:20
  easier.
• 23:21
  They're
• 23:21
  going
• 23:21
  to
• 23:21
  have
• 23:21
  it
• 23:21
  harder
• 23:22
  in
• 23:22
  some
• 23:23
  ways.
• 23:23
  I
• 23:24
  think
• 23:24
  that's
• 23:24
  a
• 23:25
  great
• 23:25
  point.
• 23:25
  It's
• 23:25
  harder
• 23:26
  now.
• 23:26
  There's
• 23:26
  more
• 23:27
  stuff,
• 23:28
  you
• 23:28
  know,
• 23:29
  just
• 23:29
  all
• 23:29
  in
• 23:29
  our
• 23:29
  face.
• 23:30
  And
• 23:30
  it
• 23:30
  was
• 23:30
  hard
• 23:31
  enough.
• 23:31
  I
• 23:31
  was
• 23:31
  growing
• 23:31
  up
• 23:31
  in
• 23:32
  the
• 23:32
  60s
• 23:32
  and
• 23:33
  there's
• 23:33
  a
• 23:33
  lot
• 23:33
  of
• 23:33
  stuff
• 23:34
  going
• 23:34
  on,
• 23:34
  but
• 23:34
  it
• 23:34
  wasn't
• 23:35
  like
• 23:35
  it
• 23:35
  is
• 23:35
  today.
• 23:36
  Right.
• 23:37
  You
• 23:38
  know,
• 23:38
  I
• 23:38
  grew
• 23:38
  up
• 23:38
  Catholic
• 23:39
  and
• 23:39
  never
• 23:39
  dawned
• 23:40
  on
• 23:40
  me
• 23:40
  to
• 23:40
  go
• 23:40
  to
• 23:40
  a
• 23:40
  priest
• 23:41
  because
• 23:41
  I
• 23:41
  didn't
• 23:41
  think
• 23:41
  they
• 23:41
  would
• 23:41
  understand
• 23:42
  what
• 23:42
  had
• 23:42
  happened.
• 23:43
  Yeah,
• 23:43
  right.
• 23:43
  In
• 23:44
  a
• 23:44
  very
• 23:44
  Christ
• 23:44
  centric
• 23:45
  kind
• 23:45
  of
• 23:45
  thing,
• 23:45
  like
• 23:45
  reading
• 23:46
  New
• 23:46
  Testament
• 23:46
  or
• 23:47
  gospels.
• 23:47
  Anyway.
• 23:48
  And
• 23:49
  finally,
• 23:49
  when
• 23:49
  I
• 23:50
  was
• 23:50
  my.
• 23:50
  I
• 23:50
  guess
• 23:51
  I
• 23:51
  was
• 23:51
  mid
• 23:51
  to
• 23:51
  late
• 23:51
  teens,
• 23:52
  I
• 23:52
  found
• 23:52
  an
• 23:52
  autobiography,
• 23:53
  not
• 23:53
  an
• 23:54
  autobiography,
• 23:54
  biography
• 23:55
  of
• 23:55
  Saint
• 23:55
  Francis
• 23:55
  of
• 23:55
  Assisi.
• 23:56
  Oh,
• 23:57
  lovely.
• 23:57
  Oh,
• 23:58
  I
• 23:59
  could
• 23:59
  have
• 23:59
  talked
• 23:59
  to
• 23:59
  this
• 24:00
  guy.
• 24:00
  He
• 24:01
  would.
• 24:02
  Yes,
• 24:02
  he's
• 24:03
  my
• 24:03
  brother
• 24:03
  or
• 24:03
  something.
• 24:04
  I
• 24:04
  would
• 24:04
  have
• 24:05
  understood
• 24:05
  that.
• 24:05
  And
• 24:06
  that
• 24:06
  was
• 24:06
  a
• 24:06
  very
• 24:07
  pivotal
• 24:07
  point
• 24:08
  that
• 24:08
  I
• 24:09
  realized
• 24:09
  I
• 24:09
  wasn't
• 24:09
  completely
• 24:10
  crazy,
• 24:10
  that
• 24:10
  there
• 24:10
  was
• 24:11
  some
• 24:11
  kind
• 24:11
  of
• 24:11
  historical
• 24:12
  basis
• 24:12
  on
• 24:12
  people
• 24:12
  that
• 24:13
  had
• 24:13
  touched
• 24:14
  into
• 24:14
  God.
• 24:15
  Let's
• 24:15
  just
• 24:15
  use
• 24:15
  the
• 24:15
  G
• 24:16
  word
• 24:16
  for
• 24:16
  it
• 24:16
  because
• 24:16
  that's
• 24:16
  what
• 24:17
  it
• 24:17
  felt
• 24:17
  like.
• 24:17
  I'm
• 24:18
  all
• 24:18
  for
• 24:18
  using
• 24:19
  the
• 24:19
  G
• 24:19
  word.
• 24:21
  The
• 24:21
  big
• 24:21
  G.
• 24:22
  Yeah.
• 24:23
  Well,
• 24:23
  I
• 24:23
  mean,
• 24:23
  it's
• 24:24
  beautiful.
• 24:25
  I
• 24:25
  mean,
• 24:25
  really,
• 24:27
  we
• 24:27
  all
• 24:27
  mean
• 24:28
  different
• 24:28
  things
• 24:28
  and
• 24:29
  I
• 24:29
  think
• 24:29
  we
• 24:29
  all
• 24:30
  need
• 24:30
  to
• 24:30
  listen
• 24:31
  to
• 24:31
  what
• 24:31
  is
• 24:31
  the
• 24:31
  authentic
• 24:33
  language
• 24:33
  of
• 24:33
  our
• 24:34
  own
• 24:34
  soul.
• 24:34
  But
• 24:35
  I
• 24:35
  know
• 24:35
  that
• 24:35
  for
• 24:36
  myself
• 24:37
  when
• 24:37
  I
• 24:38
  hear
• 24:38
  the
• 24:38
  word
• 24:38
  God
• 24:39
  spoken
• 24:40
  of
• 24:41
  from
• 24:41
  the
• 24:41
  heart,
• 24:42
  from
• 24:42
  our
• 24:42
  sincerity,
• 24:43
  it's
• 24:44
  ecstatic.
• 24:44
  Just
• 24:45
  brings
• 24:45
  alive
• 24:46
  what
• 24:46
  is
• 24:46
  noble
• 24:47
  and
• 24:47
  pure
• 24:48
  and
• 24:48
  real
• 24:48
  and
• 24:49
  the
• 24:49
  place
• 24:49
  in
• 24:50
  our
• 24:50
  hearts
• 24:50
  where
• 24:51
  we
• 24:51
  know
• 24:51
  that,
• 24:52
  like
• 24:52
  what
• 24:52
  you're
• 24:53
  describing,
• 24:53
  John,
• 24:54
  like
• 24:54
  the
• 24:54
  teenage
• 24:55
  self
• 24:55
  encountered
• 24:56
  St.
• 24:56
  Francis.
• 24:57
  And
• 24:57
  like
• 24:57
  your
• 24:57
  heart
• 24:57
  goes,
• 24:58
  yes,
• 24:58
  yes,
• 25:00
  I
• 25:00
  know
• 25:00
  this.
• 25:02
  And
• 25:02
  so
• 25:02
  it's
• 25:03
  speaking
• 25:03
  to
• 25:03
  the
• 25:03
  parts
• 25:04
  of
• 25:04
  us
• 25:04
  that
• 25:05
  haven't.
• 25:06
  That
• 25:06
  maybe
• 25:06
  haven't
• 25:07
  had
• 25:07
  the
• 25:07
  support
• 25:07
  or
• 25:08
  the
• 25:08
  articulation
• 25:09
  or
• 25:09
  the
• 25:09
  mirroring
• 25:10
  or
• 25:10
  haven't
• 25:11
  yet
• 25:11
  happened
• 25:11
  upon
• 25:12
  it.
• 25:13
  But
• 25:13
  you
• 25:14
  know,
• 25:14
  like
• 25:14
  it
• 25:14
  says
• 25:14
  in
• 25:15
  the
• 25:15
  course
• 25:15
  in
• 25:15
  miracles,
• 25:16
  Roger,
• 25:16
  that
• 25:16
  you
• 25:16
  and
• 25:16
  I
• 25:17
  know
• 25:17
  and
• 25:17
  love
• 25:18
  dearly.
• 25:18
  That
• 25:19
  passage
• 25:19
  is
• 25:19
  one
• 25:20
  of
• 25:20
  my
• 25:20
  favorites
• 25:20
  that
• 25:21
  where
• 25:21
  it
• 25:21
  speaks
• 25:21
  about
• 25:22
  the
• 25:22
  forgotten
• 25:22
  song
• 25:24
  and
• 25:24
  it
• 25:24
  says,
• 25:25
  listen.
• 25:26
  Perhaps
• 25:27
  you
• 25:27
  catch
• 25:27
  a
• 25:27
  hint
• 25:28
  of
• 25:28
  an
• 25:28
  ancient
• 25:29
  state,
• 25:30
  not
• 25:31
  quite
• 25:31
  fully
• 25:32
  remembered,
• 25:33
  but
• 25:33
  like
• 25:34
  a
• 25:34
  song,
• 25:35
  the
• 25:35
  full
• 25:36
  melody,
• 25:37
  you
• 25:37
  don't
• 25:37
  remember
• 25:38
  in
• 25:38
  its
• 25:38
  entirety,
• 25:39
  but
• 25:39
  just
• 25:40
  a
• 25:40
  little
• 25:40
  wisp
• 25:41
  of
• 25:41
  the
• 25:41
  melody
• 25:42
  attached
• 25:42
  not
• 25:43
  to
• 25:43
  a
• 25:43
  person
• 25:43
  or
• 25:44
  a
• 25:44
  place
• 25:44
  or
• 25:44
  anything
• 25:44
  in
• 25:45
  Particular.
• 25:46
  But
• 25:46
  as
• 25:47
  you
• 25:47
  listen
• 25:48
  to
• 25:48
  this
• 25:49
  melody,
• 25:49
  it
• 25:50
  brings
• 25:50
  alive,
• 25:51
  awakens
• 25:52
  the
• 25:53
  memory
• 25:53
  of
• 25:54
  what
• 25:54
  you
• 25:54
  love,
• 25:55
  of
• 25:55
  what
• 25:55
  you
• 25:56
  are,
• 25:56
  of
• 25:57
  that
• 25:57
  which
• 25:57
  is
• 25:57
  more
• 25:58
  dear
• 25:58
  to
• 25:58
  you
• 25:58
  than
• 25:59
  anything
• 25:59
  in
• 26:00
  this
• 26:00
  world.
• 26:01
  And
• 26:01
  then
• 26:01
  it
• 26:01
  goes
• 26:02
  on
• 26:02
  to
• 26:02
  say
• 26:02
  listen.
• 26:03
  It
• 26:04
  invites
• 26:04
  you
• 26:04
  to
• 26:04
  listen.
• 26:05
  And
• 26:05
  then
• 26:05
  it
• 26:05
  speaks
• 26:06
  about
• 26:06
  the
• 26:07
  fear
• 26:07
  that
• 26:08
  we
• 26:08
  all
• 26:08
  have
• 26:09
  of
• 26:10
  remembering
• 26:11
  the
• 26:11
  whole
• 26:11
  song
• 26:12
  and
• 26:12
  the
• 26:12
  conflict
• 26:13
  that
• 26:13
  that
• 26:13
  inevitably
• 26:14
  brings
• 26:14
  up
• 26:14
  in
• 26:15
  us,
• 26:15
  of
• 26:15
  the
• 26:16
  fear
• 26:16
  of
• 26:16
  loss.
• 26:16
  The
• 26:17
  fear
• 26:17
  of
• 26:17
  loss,
• 26:17
  of
• 26:18
  what
• 26:18
  we
• 26:18
  know,
• 26:19
  of
• 26:19
  what
• 26:19
  we
• 26:19
  think
• 26:19
  we
• 26:20
  are,
• 26:20
  of
• 26:20
  all
• 26:20
  of
• 26:21
  our
• 26:21
  attachments
• 26:22
  and
• 26:22
  misunderstandings.
• 26:24
  That
• 26:24
  is
• 26:24
  our
• 26:25
  familiar
• 26:25
  way
• 26:26
  of
• 26:26
  navigating
• 26:27
  the
• 26:27
  world.
• 26:29
  And
• 26:29
  the
• 26:29
  cost
• 26:30
  of
• 26:31
  remembering
• 26:31
  the
• 26:31
  whole
• 26:32
  song
• 26:32
  and
• 26:32
  living
• 26:33
  it
• 26:33
  fully
• 26:34
  is
• 26:34
  the
• 26:35
  willingness
• 26:35
  to
• 26:36
  just
• 26:36
  say
• 26:37
  thy
• 26:37
  will
• 26:37
  be
• 26:37
  done.
• 26:38
  Like
• 26:38
  if
• 26:39
  I
• 26:39
  disappear.
• 26:40
  Okay.
• 26:42
  Right.
• 26:43
  And
• 26:43
  at
• 26:43
  a
• 26:43
  certain
• 26:44
  point,
• 26:44
  I
• 26:44
  kind
• 26:44
  of
• 26:45
  see
• 26:45
  all
• 26:45
  spiritual
• 26:46
  practice
• 26:46
  is
• 26:47
  just
• 26:47
  to
• 26:47
  build
• 26:47
  up
• 26:48
  enough
• 26:48
  musculature
• 26:49
  to
• 26:49
  nurture
• 26:49
  that
• 26:50
  inner
• 26:51
  knowing
• 26:51
  in
• 26:52
  there
• 26:52
  that's
• 26:52
  always
• 26:53
  there
• 26:54
  in
• 26:54
  the
• 26:54
  deep
• 26:55
  heart,
• 26:56
  to
• 26:56
  nurture
• 26:57
  it
• 26:57
  by
• 26:57
  paying
• 26:58
  attention,
• 26:59
  by
• 27:00
  letting
• 27:00
  ourselves
• 27:01
  feel
• 27:01
  the
• 27:02
  fact
• 27:02
  that
• 27:02
  we
• 27:02
  love
• 27:03
  it,
• 27:04
  that
• 27:04
  it
• 27:04
  does
• 27:04
  represent
• 27:06
  what
• 27:06
  is
• 27:06
  deeper
• 27:07
  and
• 27:07
  more
• 27:07
  meaningful
• 27:08
  and
• 27:08
  more
• 27:08
  noble
• 27:09
  and
• 27:09
  more
• 27:09
  real
• 27:09
  and
• 27:10
  more
• 27:10
  precious
• 27:10
  and
• 27:11
  more
• 27:11
  joyful.
• 27:12
  And
• 27:13
  that
• 27:13
  there's
• 27:14
  guidance
• 27:14
  in
• 27:14
  that
• 27:15
  knowing.
• 27:16
  And
• 27:16
  that
• 27:18
  as
• 27:18
  we
• 27:18
  nurture
• 27:19
  it
• 27:19
  through
• 27:19
  some
• 27:19
  kind
• 27:20
  of
• 27:20
  practice
• 27:21
  and
• 27:22
  listen
• 27:22
  to
• 27:23
  what
• 27:23
  nurtures
• 27:23
  it
• 27:24
  for
• 27:24
  us,
• 27:24
  and
• 27:24
  it's
• 27:25
  unique
• 27:25
  in
• 27:25
  each
• 27:25
  being,
• 27:27
  then
• 27:27
  ultimately
• 27:28
  it
• 27:28
  asks
• 27:29
  us
• 27:29
  for
• 27:29
  a
• 27:29
  full
• 27:30
  surrender
• 27:31
  and
• 27:31
  then
• 27:31
  a
• 27:32
  fuller
• 27:32
  surrender
• 27:32
  still,
• 27:34
  until
• 27:34
  there's
• 27:34
  no
• 27:34
  one
• 27:34
  left
• 27:35
  to
• 27:35
  care
• 27:35
  what
• 27:35
  happens.
• 27:37
  And
• 27:37
  then
• 27:37
  there's
• 27:37
  only
• 27:38
  God.
• 27:39
  Only
• 27:40
  God.
• 27:41
  Right.
• 27:42
  And
• 27:42
  then,
• 27:42
  well,
• 27:43
  how
• 27:43
  does
• 27:43
  God
• 27:43
  want
• 27:43
  to
• 27:44
  be
• 27:44
  here
• 27:44
  now?
• 27:45
  How
• 27:45
  does
• 27:46
  God
• 27:47
  want
• 27:47
  to
• 27:48
  show
• 27:48
  up?
• 27:49
  How
• 27:50
  does
• 27:50
  God
• 27:51
  want
• 27:51
  to
• 27:51
  contribute?
• 27:52
  How
• 27:52
  does
• 27:53
  God
• 27:53
  want
• 27:53
  to
• 27:53
  love?
• 27:54
  How
• 27:54
  does
• 27:54
  God
• 27:55
  want
• 27:55
  to
• 27:55
  listen?
• 27:57
  How
• 27:57
  does
• 27:57
  God
• 27:57
  want
• 27:58
  to
• 27:58
  act?
• 27:58
  What
• 27:59
  does
• 27:59
  God
• 27:59
  want
• 27:59
  to
• 27:59
  create
• 28:01
  that
• 28:01
  births
• 28:02
  beauty
• 28:02
  and
• 28:03
  truth
• 28:03
  and
• 28:03
  goodness?
• 28:05
  Because
• 28:05
  I
• 28:05
  don't
• 28:05
  know
• 28:05
  about
• 28:06
  you,
• 28:06
  but
• 28:06
  in
• 28:06
  my
• 28:07
  experience,
• 28:08
  there's
• 28:09
  nothing
• 28:09
  else
• 28:09
  to
• 28:09
  do
• 28:10
  here
• 28:11
  that
• 28:11
  makes
• 28:11
  any
• 28:12
  sense.
• 28:14
  Yeah.
• 28:15
  And
• 28:16
  that's
• 28:17
  statement
• 28:17
  just
• 28:18
  what
• 28:18
  you
• 28:18
  just
• 28:18
  said.
• 28:19
  Yes.
• 28:20
  From
• 28:20
  the
• 28:21
  perspective
• 28:21
  of
• 28:22
  openings
• 28:23
  such
• 28:23
  as
• 28:23
  you've
• 28:23
  had,
• 28:24
  it
• 28:24
  makes
• 28:24
  total
• 28:25
  sense.
• 28:25
  And
• 28:26
  it's
• 28:26
  also,
• 28:28
  unfortunately,
• 28:29
  a
• 28:29
  rare
• 28:30
  perspective.
• 28:32
  And
• 28:32
  may
• 28:33
  it
• 28:33
  become
• 28:33
  less.
• 28:34
  Less
• 28:34
  rare.
• 28:35
  Absolutely.
• 28:36
  And
• 28:36
  that's
• 28:36
  what
• 28:37
  wakes
• 28:37
  me
• 28:37
  up
• 28:37
  every
• 28:37
  morning,
• 28:38
  because
• 28:38
  I've
• 28:39
  had
• 28:39
  a
• 28:39
  pretty
• 28:39
  intense
• 28:40
  life.
• 28:40
  You
• 28:40
  know,
• 28:40
  it's
• 28:40
  been
• 28:41
  edgy,
• 28:41
  very
• 28:41
  edgy
• 28:42
  in
• 28:42
  many
• 28:42
  places.
• 28:43
  But
• 28:43
  it's
• 28:44
  often
• 28:44
  in
• 28:44
  these
• 28:45
  edgiest
• 28:45
  places
• 28:46
  that
• 28:46
  the
• 28:47
  biggest
• 28:47
  openings
• 28:48
  to
• 28:48
  another
• 28:49
  level
• 28:49
  and
• 28:49
  another
• 28:49
  possibility
• 28:51
  have
• 28:51
  become
• 28:52
  known.
• 28:52
  And
• 28:53
  then
• 28:53
  there's
• 28:53
  been
• 28:53
  a
• 28:53
  process
• 28:54
  of
• 28:56
  learning
• 28:56
  how
• 28:56
  to
• 28:56
  adapt
• 28:57
  to
• 28:57
  that
• 28:58
  new
• 28:58
  opening
• 28:59
  that
• 28:59
  feels
• 28:59
  like
• 29:00
  having
• 29:00
  no
• 29:00
  skin
• 29:01
  at
• 29:01
  all
• 29:01
  for
• 29:01
  a
• 29:02
  while.
• 29:02
  And
• 29:03
  then
• 29:04
  I
• 29:04
  always
• 29:05
  go,
• 29:06
  what
• 29:06
  happens?
• 29:07
  In
• 29:07
  my
• 29:07
  heart
• 29:07
  is
• 29:07
  always
• 29:08
  an
• 29:08
  innate
• 29:09
  knowing
• 29:10
  where
• 29:10
  I
• 29:11
  feel
• 29:11
  such
• 29:11
  a
• 29:11
  deep
• 29:12
  wanting.
• 29:12
  This
• 29:13
  for
• 29:13
  everyone.
• 29:14
  It's
• 29:14
  such
• 29:15
  this
• 29:15
  sense
• 29:16
  of
• 29:16
  being
• 29:16
  so
• 29:16
  blessed
• 29:17
  and
• 29:17
  so
• 29:17
  fortunate
• 29:18
  to
• 29:18
  have
• 29:18
  had
• 29:18
  this
• 29:19
  open.
• 29:19
  And
• 29:19
  I
• 29:20
  know
• 29:20
  it's
• 29:20
  not
• 29:20
  just
• 29:20
  for
• 29:21
  me.
• 29:21
  It's
• 29:21
  for
• 29:22
  all
• 29:22
  of
• 29:22
  us.
• 29:22
  It's
• 29:22
  for
• 29:22
  all
• 29:23
  the
• 29:23
  precious
• 29:23
  children
• 29:24
  of
• 29:24
  humanity
• 29:25
  and
• 29:25
  all
• 29:26
  the
• 29:26
  ones
• 29:26
  who
• 29:26
  will
• 29:26
  ever
• 29:27
  come.
• 29:28
  And
• 29:29
  so
• 29:29
  I
• 29:30
  then
• 29:30
  go,
• 29:31
  my
• 29:31
  mind
• 29:31
  comes
• 29:32
  in
• 29:32
  with
• 29:33
  a
• 29:33
  curiosity
• 29:34
  to
• 29:35
  what's
• 29:35
  the
• 29:35
  magic
• 29:36
  little
• 29:36
  key?
• 29:36
  And
• 29:37
  I
• 29:37
  backtrack
• 29:37
  over
• 29:38
  my
• 29:38
  own
• 29:38
  experience
• 29:39
  to
• 29:39
  go,
• 29:40
  is
• 29:40
  there
• 29:40
  anything
• 29:41
  that
• 29:41
  I
• 29:41
  did
• 29:42
  that
• 29:42
  might
• 29:43
  have
• 29:43
  helped
• 29:43
  that
• 29:43
  to
• 29:44
  happen?
• 29:45
  Yeah.
• 29:45
  Is
• 29:46
  there
• 29:46
  any
• 29:46
  practice?
• 29:47
  Is
• 29:47
  there
• 29:47
  any
• 29:47
  activity?
• 29:48
  Is
• 29:48
  there
• 29:49
  any
• 29:50
  emphasis
• 29:51
  in
• 29:51
  what
• 29:51
  I
• 29:51
  was
• 29:52
  chewing
• 29:53
  on?
• 29:53
  Right.
• 29:54
  In
• 29:54
  any
• 29:55
  way
• 29:55
  that
• 29:55
  was
• 29:56
  in
• 29:56
  some
• 29:56
  way
• 29:56
  supportive
• 29:57
  for
• 29:57
  that
• 29:57
  to
• 29:58
  happen?
• 29:59
  And
• 29:59
  I've
• 30:00
  seen,
• 30:00
  yes,
• 30:00
  there
• 30:01
  often
• 30:01
  is.
• 30:02
  Right.
• 30:03
  And
• 30:03
  then
• 30:03
  there's
• 30:04
  a
• 30:04
  whole
• 30:04
  part
• 30:04
  of
• 30:04
  it
• 30:04
  that's
• 30:05
  just
• 30:05
  grace
• 30:05
  itself.
• 30:06
  And
• 30:06
  we
• 30:06
  could
• 30:07
  talk
• 30:07
  about
• 30:07
  that
• 30:08
  because
• 30:08
  it
• 30:08
  is
• 30:09
  a
• 30:09
  dance
• 30:09
  of
• 30:10
  engagement,
• 30:11
  sincere
• 30:11
  engagement
• 30:12
  with
• 30:12
  practices
• 30:12
  and
• 30:13
  curiosity
• 30:14
  and
• 30:14
  interest
• 30:14
  and
• 30:15
  study.
• 30:16
  And
• 30:16
  then
• 30:17
  that's
• 30:17
  priming
• 30:18
  the
• 30:18
  pump.
• 30:18
  And
• 30:18
  then
• 30:18
  grace
• 30:18
  takes
• 30:19
  over.
• 30:20
  But
• 30:20
  then
• 30:21
  we
• 30:21
  have
• 30:21
  to
• 30:21
  integrate.
• 30:22
  We
• 30:22
  have
• 30:22
  to
• 30:22
  understand,
• 30:23
  what
• 30:23
  did
• 30:24
  that
• 30:24
  mean?
• 30:25
  Like,
• 30:26
  for
• 30:26
  every
• 30:26
  realization
• 30:27
  that
• 30:28
  has
• 30:28
  happened
• 30:28
  here
• 30:29
  in
• 30:29
  this
• 30:29
  location,
• 30:30
  I
• 30:31
  have
• 30:31
  had
• 30:31
  to
• 30:31
  go,
• 30:32
  what
• 30:33
  is
• 30:33
  the
• 30:33
  meaning
• 30:33
  of
• 30:34
  this?
• 30:34
  What
• 30:34
  is
• 30:35
  its
• 30:35
  wisdom?
• 30:36
  And
• 30:37
  how
• 30:37
  can
• 30:38
  that
• 30:38
  be
• 30:38
  lived
• 30:39
  in
• 30:39
  all
• 30:39
  the
• 30:39
  little
• 30:40
  areas
• 30:41
  of
• 30:41
  life?
• 30:42
  How
• 30:42
  can
• 30:43
  this
• 30:43
  be
• 30:43
  expressed
• 30:44
  and
• 30:44
  embodied
• 30:44
  in
• 30:45
  the
• 30:45
  deepest,
• 30:45
  most
• 30:46
  beautiful
• 30:46
  way
• 30:48
  so
• 30:48
  that
• 30:49
  the
• 30:49
  only
• 30:49
  impact
• 30:50
  this
• 30:50
  has
• 30:51
  is
• 30:51
  a
• 30:51
  blessing
• 30:52
  for
• 30:52
  others?
• 30:53
  Right.
• 30:53
  Given
• 30:54
  this,
• 30:54
  how
• 30:54
  can
• 30:55
  I
• 30:55
  serve?
• 30:56
  Yeah.
• 30:56
  But
• 30:56
  if
• 30:56
  we
• 30:56
  take
• 30:57
  the
• 30:57
  eye
• 30:57
  out
• 30:57
  of
• 30:57
  it.
• 30:58
  Yeah.
• 31:00
  There's
• 31:00
  your
• 31:00
  answer.
• 31:02
  Beautiful.
• 31:03
  And,
• 31:03
  Miranda,
• 31:04
  you've
• 31:04
  just
• 31:05
  synopsized
• 31:06
  three
• 31:07
  key
• 31:08
  phases
• 31:09
  in
• 31:11
  spiritual
• 31:11
  life.
• 31:11
  One
• 31:12
  is
• 31:12
  looking
• 31:13
  at
• 31:13
  how
• 31:14
  do
• 31:14
  we
• 31:14
  play
• 31:14
  quotes,
• 31:15
  our
• 31:15
  role
• 31:16
  in
• 31:16
  this?
• 31:16
  How
• 31:16
  do
• 31:17
  we
• 31:17
  facilitate
• 31:18
  the
• 31:18
  openings
• 31:19
  that
• 31:19
  you're
• 31:19
  describing?
• 31:20
  Second.
• 31:21
  And
• 31:21
  then
• 31:22
  the
• 31:22
  openings
• 31:22
  themselves.
• 31:23
  And
• 31:23
  then
• 31:23
  third,
• 31:24
  the
• 31:24
  process,
• 31:25
  which
• 31:25
  is
• 31:25
  often
• 31:27
  given
• 31:27
  short
• 31:27
  change,
• 31:28
  which
• 31:28
  is
• 31:28
  the
• 31:28
  major
• 31:29
  process
• 31:30
  of
• 31:30
  integration.
• 31:31
  Yeah.
• 31:32
  But
• 31:32
  I
• 31:32
  think
• 31:33
  for
• 31:33
  me,
• 31:33
  I'm
• 31:33
  looking
• 31:33
  at
• 31:34
  it
• 31:34
  not
• 31:34
  only
• 31:34
  for
• 31:35
  myself,
• 31:35
  but
• 31:36
  for
• 31:36
  others.
• 31:37
  Yeah.
• 31:37
  Because
• 31:38
  I
• 31:38
  know
• 31:39
  absolutely
• 31:40
  that,
• 31:40
  you
• 31:41
  know,
• 31:41
  when
• 31:41
  things
• 31:41
  open
• 31:41
  in
• 31:42
  me,
• 31:42
  it's
• 31:42
  not
• 31:42
  just
• 31:42
  for
• 31:43
  my
• 31:43
  benefit,
• 31:44
  it's
• 31:44
  for
• 31:44
  everyone's
• 31:45
  benefit.
• 31:45
  And
• 31:46
  that
• 31:46
  by
• 31:46
  whatever,
• 31:47
  you
• 31:47
  know,
• 31:48
  mystery.
• 31:48
  I
• 31:49
  happen
• 31:49
  to
• 31:49
  be
• 31:49
  a
• 31:49
  spiritual
• 31:50
  teacher.
• 31:50
  Since
• 31:51
  my
• 31:51
  20s,
• 31:51
  people
• 31:52
  have
• 31:52
  been
• 31:52
  coming
• 31:52
  to
• 31:52
  me
• 31:53
  asking
• 31:53
  for
• 31:53
  help
• 31:53
  in
• 31:54
  their
• 31:54
  process.
• 31:54
  I
• 31:55
  didn't
• 31:55
  intend.
• 31:56
  That
• 31:56
  wasn't
• 31:57
  a
• 31:57
  career
• 31:57
  choice.
• 31:57
  It's
• 31:58
  just
• 31:58
  thing
• 31:58
  led
• 31:59
  to
• 31:59
  another
• 31:59
  and
• 31:59
  people
• 31:59
  came
• 32:00
  and
• 32:00
  teachers
• 32:01
  asked
• 32:01
  me
• 32:01
  to
• 32:01
  do
• 32:01
  this,
• 32:02
  and,
• 32:02
  okay,
• 32:03
  here
• 32:03
  we
• 32:03
  go.
• 32:03
  One
• 32:03
  led
• 32:03
  to
• 32:04
  another.
• 32:04
  And
• 32:05
  then,
• 32:05
  this
• 32:05
  is
• 32:05
  the
• 32:05
  path.
• 32:06
  This
• 32:06
  is
• 32:07
  what
• 32:07
  my
• 32:07
  function
• 32:08
  is.
• 32:09
  And
• 32:09
  it's
• 32:10
  a
• 32:10
  great
• 32:10
  Blessing.
• 32:11
  And
• 32:11
  it's
• 32:11
  very
• 32:11
  challenging.
• 32:12
  And
• 32:12
  if
• 32:13
  I
• 32:13
  just
• 32:13
  sit
• 32:14
  with,
• 32:14
  I
• 32:14
  look
• 32:14
  at
• 32:14
  what's
• 32:15
  going
• 32:15
  on
• 32:15
  in
• 32:16
  the
• 32:16
  body
• 32:16
  of
• 32:16
  the
• 32:16
  people
• 32:17
  that
• 32:17
  come
• 32:17
  to
• 32:18
  me
• 32:18
  and
• 32:18
  I
• 32:19
  let
• 32:19
  myself
• 32:20
  see
• 32:20
  them,
• 32:21
  feel
• 32:21
  them,
• 32:22
  take
• 32:22
  in
• 32:23
  what
• 32:23
  they're
• 32:23
  grappling
• 32:24
  with,
• 32:24
  what
• 32:24
  isn't
• 32:25
  yet
• 32:25
  clear,
• 32:26
  what
• 32:26
  isn't
• 32:26
  yet
• 32:27
  available
• 32:27
  to
• 32:27
  them.
• 32:28
  And
• 32:28
  I'm
• 32:29
  interested
• 32:29
  in
• 32:29
  the
• 32:29
  intersection
• 32:30
  of
• 32:31
  what's
• 32:31
  available
• 32:31
  to
• 32:32
  me
• 32:32
  and,
• 32:32
  and
• 32:33
  what
• 32:33
  are
• 32:33
  they
• 32:33
  struggling
• 32:34
  with
• 32:34
  and
• 32:35
  what's
• 32:35
  the
• 32:35
  intersection?
• 32:36
  What's
• 32:36
  the
• 32:37
  magic
• 32:37
  little
• 32:38
  three
• 32:38
  part
• 32:39
  inquiry
• 32:39
  that
• 32:40
  is
• 32:40
  going
• 32:40
  to
• 32:40
  like
• 32:40
  open
• 32:41
  up
• 32:41
  that
• 32:41
  little
• 32:42
  door
• 32:42
  that's
• 32:42
  blocked,
• 32:43
  what's
• 32:43
  going
• 32:43
  to
• 32:44
  clean
• 32:44
  the
• 32:44
  window
• 32:44
  pane
• 32:45
  a
• 32:45
  little
• 32:45
  bit,
• 32:46
  clarify
• 32:46
  the
• 32:47
  confusion,
• 32:48
  what's
• 32:48
  going
• 32:48
  to
• 32:48
  soothe
• 32:49
  the
• 32:49
  suffering,
• 32:49
  what's
• 32:50
  going
• 32:50
  to
• 32:50
  help
• 32:50
  the
• 32:50
  system
• 32:51
  relax.
• 32:51
  So
• 32:51
  it's
• 32:52
  more
• 32:52
  receptive.
• 32:53
  And
• 32:54
  I've
• 32:54
  seen
• 32:54
  and
• 32:55
  learned
• 32:55
  so
• 32:55
  much.
• 32:56
  I
• 32:56
  mean,
• 32:56
  there's
• 32:56
  a
• 32:57
  whole
• 32:57
  body
• 32:58
  of
• 32:58
  practices
• 32:59
  and
• 32:59
  teachings
• 33:00
  and
• 33:01
  different
• 33:01
  kinds
• 33:02
  of
• 33:02
  practices,
• 33:03
  some
• 33:03
  of
• 33:03
  them
• 33:03
  inquiry
• 33:04
  practices
• 33:04
  and
• 33:05
  very
• 33:05
  specific,
• 33:06
  some
• 33:06
  of
• 33:06
  them
• 33:07
  devotional
• 33:07
  practices,
• 33:08
  ancient
• 33:08
  and
• 33:09
  contemporary,
• 33:10
  some
• 33:10
  of
• 33:11
  them
• 33:11
  meditation
• 33:11
  practice,
• 33:12
  some
• 33:12
  of
• 33:12
  them
• 33:12
  classical
• 33:13
  meditations.
• 33:14
  And
• 33:14
  often
• 33:15
  I'm
• 33:15
  just
• 33:15
  given
• 33:16
  meditation
• 33:17
  practices,
• 33:19
  it
• 33:19
  just
• 33:19
  pours
• 33:20
  through.
• 33:20
  And
• 33:21
  it's
• 33:21
  in
• 33:21
  response
• 33:22
  to
• 33:24
  that
• 33:24
  question
• 33:25
  that
• 33:25
  I'm
• 33:25
  sitting
• 33:26
  with
• 33:26
  is,
• 33:26
  well,
• 33:27
  how
• 33:27
  can
• 33:27
  more
• 33:27
  of
• 33:28
  us,
• 33:28
  how
• 33:29
  can
• 33:29
  this
• 33:29
  be
• 33:29
  replicated?
• 33:31
  How
• 33:31
  can
• 33:31
  the
• 33:31
  children
• 33:32
  of
• 33:32
  humanity
• 33:33
  grow
• 33:33
  up,
• 33:34
  clean
• 33:34
  up,
• 33:34
  wake
• 33:35
  up,
• 33:35
  show
• 33:35
  up?
• 33:36
  As
• 33:36
  Ken
• 33:36
  Wilbur
• 33:37
  so
• 33:37
  perfectly
• 33:38
  synthesized.
• 33:39
  There's
• 33:40
  some
• 33:40
  writers
• 33:40
  who
• 33:40
  think
• 33:41
  that
• 33:41
  in
• 33:41
  our
• 33:41
  times
• 33:42
  historically,
• 33:42
  more
• 33:42
  people
• 33:43
  are,
• 33:43
  are
• 33:44
  waking
• 33:44
  up
• 33:45
  than
• 33:46
  in
• 33:46
  the
• 33:46
  past.
• 33:47
  Do
• 33:47
  you
• 33:47
  find
• 33:48
  that
• 33:48
  the
• 33:48
  pressure
• 33:49
  of
• 33:50
  present
• 33:50
  times
• 33:51
  and
• 33:51
  the
• 33:51
  people
• 33:52
  that
• 33:52
  you
• 33:52
  work
• 33:52
  with
• 33:52
  and
• 33:52
  what
• 33:52
  you've
• 33:53
  seen
• 33:53
  that
• 33:53
  people
• 33:53
  are
• 33:54
  beginning
• 33:54
  to
• 33:54
  wake
• 33:54
  up
• 33:54
  on
• 33:55
  more,
• 33:56
  greater
• 33:56
  percentages?
• 33:58
  Well,
• 33:58
  I
• 33:58
  think
• 33:58
  it's
• 33:58
  both
• 33:59
  ends
• 33:59
  because
• 34:00
  I'm
• 34:00
  also
• 34:00
  someone
• 34:01
  who
• 34:01
  at
• 34:02
  this
• 34:02
  time
• 34:02
  in
• 34:02
  my
• 34:02
  life,
• 34:03
  I
• 34:03
  pay
• 34:04
  more
• 34:04
  attention
• 34:04
  to
• 34:05
  what's
• 34:05
  going
• 34:05
  on
• 34:05
  in
• 34:05
  the
• 34:05
  world
• 34:05
  than
• 34:06
  I
• 34:06
  ever
• 34:06
  have.
• 34:07
  And
• 34:08
  I
• 34:08
  regard
• 34:09
  watching
• 34:09
  and
• 34:10
  listening
• 34:10
  to
• 34:10
  the
• 34:10
  news
• 34:11
  as
• 34:11
  a
• 34:11
  spiritual
• 34:11
  practice.
• 34:12
  These
• 34:12
  days
• 34:14
  of
• 34:14
  staying
• 34:15
  grounded
• 34:15
  in
• 34:16
  my
• 34:16
  body
• 34:16
  and
• 34:16
  opening
• 34:17
  my
• 34:17
  heart
• 34:17
  and
• 34:18
  seeing
• 34:18
  all
• 34:18
  of
• 34:18
  the
• 34:19
  distortion
• 34:20
  and
• 34:20
  the
• 34:20
  ignorance
• 34:20
  and
• 34:21
  the
• 34:21
  conflict
• 34:21
  as
• 34:22
  humanity's
• 34:23
  prayer
• 34:23
  list,
• 34:24
  as
• 34:24
  the
• 34:25
  collective
• 34:25
  cleanup
• 34:26
  that
• 34:26
  we
• 34:26
  still
• 34:26
  have
• 34:27
  yet
• 34:27
  to
• 34:27
  do.
• 34:28
  And
• 34:28
  let's
• 34:28
  face
• 34:28
  it,
• 34:29
  there's
• 34:29
  rather
• 34:30
  a
• 34:30
  lot
• 34:30
  of
• 34:30
  that
• 34:30
  right
• 34:30
  now.
• 34:31
  And
• 34:31
  then
• 34:32
  I
• 34:32
  also
• 34:32
  see
• 34:34
  people
• 34:34
  of
• 34:34
  all
• 34:34
  different
• 34:35
  ages
• 34:35
  and
• 34:35
  stages
• 34:36
  of
• 34:36
  life
• 34:36
  like
• 34:37
  coming
• 34:38
  towards
• 34:39
  these
• 34:39
  teachings
• 34:40
  and
• 34:40
  loving
• 34:41
  it
• 34:41
  and
• 34:41
  having
• 34:41
  a
• 34:42
  wonderful
• 34:42
  time
• 34:42
  and
• 34:43
  taking
• 34:43
  joy
• 34:43
  in
• 34:44
  the
• 34:44
  process
• 34:44
  of
• 34:45
  decompressing
• 34:46
  out
• 34:46
  of
• 34:46
  date
• 34:47
  ways
• 34:48
  of
• 34:48
  being
• 34:48
  that
• 34:48
  are
• 34:49
  clunky
• 34:49
  and
• 34:49
  dense
• 34:49
  and
• 34:50
  don't
• 34:50
  work
• 34:50
  very
• 34:50
  well
• 34:50
  and
• 34:51
  never
• 34:51
  did
• 34:51
  and
• 34:52
  are
• 34:52
  interested
• 34:53
  to
• 34:53
  see
• 34:53
  what's
• 34:54
  possible.
• 34:54
  Who
• 34:55
  are
• 34:55
  we
• 34:55
  really
• 34:55
  and
• 34:56
  what's
• 34:56
  possible
• 34:56
  for
• 34:57
  me.
• 34:57
  What's
• 34:57
  possible
• 34:57
  for
• 34:58
  us
• 34:59
  and
• 35:00
  forming
• 35:00
  relationship
• 35:01
  with
• 35:01
  one
• 35:02
  another,
• 35:03
  becoming
• 35:03
  mighty
• 35:04
  companions
• 35:04
  to
• 35:04
  one
• 35:04
  another.
• 35:05
  So
• 35:06
  I
• 35:07
  don't
• 35:07
  really
• 35:07
  know
• 35:07
  to
• 35:08
  answer
• 35:08
  your
• 35:08
  question,
• 35:09
  John,
• 35:09
  because
• 35:09
  I
• 35:09
  think
• 35:10
  I
• 35:10
  see
• 35:11
  both
• 35:11
  equally.
• 35:13
  And
• 35:13
  it
• 35:14
  just
• 35:14
  brings
• 35:14
  me
• 35:14
  back
• 35:14
  to
• 35:15
  the
• 35:15
  now.
• 35:16
  And
• 35:16
  how
• 35:17
  can
• 35:17
  I
• 35:17
  be
• 35:17
  within
• 35:17
  all?
• 35:18
  How
• 35:18
  can
• 35:18
  I
• 35:19
  nurture
• 35:20
  the
• 35:20
  awakening
• 35:21
  of
• 35:21
  the
• 35:21
  others?
• 35:22
  How
• 35:22
  can
• 35:22
  I
• 35:23
  continue
• 35:24
  the
• 35:24
  cleanup
• 35:24
  and
• 35:25
  the
• 35:25
  growing
• 35:25
  up
• 35:25
  and
• 35:25
  the
• 35:26
  showing
• 35:26
  up
• 35:27
  in
• 35:27
  myself?
• 35:28
  Because
• 35:28
  I
• 35:29
  do
• 35:29
  see
• 35:29
  that
• 35:30
  it
• 35:30
  continues.
• 35:31
  It's
• 35:31
  not
• 35:32
  that
• 35:32
  we've
• 35:32
  cleaned
• 35:32
  up
• 35:32
  and
• 35:33
  then
• 35:33
  we
• 35:33
  move
• 35:33
  on
• 35:33
  and
• 35:33
  then
• 35:34
  we've
• 35:34
  grown
• 35:34
  up.
• 35:34
  No,
• 35:35
  there's
• 35:36
  more.
• 35:37
  There's
• 35:37
  always
• 35:37
  more
• 35:39
  evolution
• 35:40
  and
• 35:40
  openness
• 35:41
  and
• 35:41
  clarification
• 35:42
  and
• 35:42
  expansion
• 35:42
  and
• 35:43
  possibility
• 35:44
  because
• 35:44
  God
• 35:44
  is
• 35:44
  exponential.
• 35:46
  Yes,
• 35:46
  I'm
• 35:46
  not
• 35:47
  willing
• 35:47
  to
• 35:47
  bet
• 35:47
  on
• 35:47
  much
• 35:47
  in
• 35:48
  this
• 35:48
  life,
• 35:48
  in
• 35:49
  this
• 35:49
  game,
• 35:49
  but
• 35:49
  one
• 35:50
  of
• 35:50
  them
• 35:50
  is
• 35:51
  there's
• 35:51
  a
• 35:51
  lot
• 35:51
  more
• 35:51
  to
• 35:52
  it
• 35:52
  than
• 35:52
  I
• 35:52
  understand.
• 35:54
  If
• 35:54
  there's
• 35:54
  one
• 35:55
  thing
• 35:55
  that
• 35:55
  helps
• 35:56
  me
• 35:56
  more
• 35:56
  than
• 35:56
  anything,
• 35:58
  it's
• 35:58
  that
• 35:58
  lesson
• 35:59
  we
• 35:59
  both
• 35:59
  know
• 36:00
  and
• 36:00
  love
• 36:00
  in
• 36:00
  the
• 36:00
  course
• 36:00
  of
• 36:01
  miracles.
• 36:01
  Roger
• 36:02
  I
• 36:02
  do
• 36:02
  not
• 36:03
  know
• 36:03
  what
• 36:03
  anything
• 36:03
  is
• 36:04
  for.
• 36:05
  And
• 36:05
  so
• 36:06
  I
• 36:06
  was
• 36:06
  sharing
• 36:06
  with
• 36:06
  my
• 36:07
  students
• 36:07
  the
• 36:07
  other
• 36:07
  day
• 36:07
  in
• 36:08
  a
• 36:08
  teaching
• 36:08
  I
• 36:08
  gave
• 36:09
  called
• 36:09
  Trusting
• 36:09
  the
• 36:10
  Mystery.
• 36:11
  And
• 36:11
  I
• 36:12
  was
• 36:12
  saying
• 36:12
  to
• 36:12
  them,
• 36:13
  and
• 36:13
  I
• 36:14
  really
• 36:14
  do
• 36:14
  feel
• 36:14
  this,
• 36:15
  that
• 36:16
  although
• 36:17
  I
• 36:17
  want
• 36:18
  humanity
• 36:19
  to
• 36:19
  wake
• 36:19
  up,
• 36:20
  I
• 36:20
  want
• 36:20
  this
• 36:21
  to
• 36:21
  be
• 36:22
  that
• 36:22
  we're
• 36:22
  in
• 36:22
  the
• 36:22
  birth
• 36:23
  canal
• 36:23
  to
• 36:24
  a
• 36:24
  higher
• 36:24
  possibility
• 36:25
  collectively.
• 36:26
  The
• 36:26
  truth
• 36:26
  of
• 36:26
  the
• 36:26
  matter
• 36:27
  is
• 36:27
  I
• 36:27
  don't
• 36:27
  really
• 36:28
  know.
• 36:28
  I
• 36:28
  hope
• 36:29
  so.
• 36:29
  I
• 36:30
  might
• 36:30
  be
• 36:30
  wrong.
• 36:30
  There's
• 36:30
  a
• 36:31
  lot
• 36:31
  of
• 36:31
  evidence
• 36:31
  right
• 36:31
  now
• 36:32
  that
• 36:32
  that
• 36:32
  is
• 36:32
  wrong.
• 36:33
  We
• 36:33
  don't
• 36:34
  know.
• 36:34
  I
• 36:35
  do
• 36:35
  not
• 36:35
  know
• 36:35
  what
• 36:35
  anything's
• 36:36
  for.
• 36:36
  And
• 36:36
  that's
• 36:37
  not
• 36:37
  going
• 36:37
  to
• 36:37
  stop
• 36:37
  me
• 36:38
  showing
• 36:39
  up
• 36:39
  every
• 36:39
  morning
• 36:40
  in
• 36:41
  prayer.
• 36:42
  What's
• 36:42
  possible
• 36:43
  and
• 36:43
  what
• 36:44
  little
• 36:44
  part
• 36:44
  can
• 36:44
  I
• 36:45
  play
• 36:45
  in
• 36:46
  bringing
• 36:46
  forth
• 36:47
  what
• 36:47
  serves?
• 36:49
  And
• 36:49
  although
• 36:50
  I
• 36:50
  don't
• 36:51
  know
• 36:51
  whether
• 36:51
  human
• 36:52
  beings
• 36:52
  are
• 36:53
  going
• 36:53
  to
• 36:53
  be
• 36:53
  able
• 36:54
  to
• 36:55
  wake
• 36:55
  up,
• 36:55
  clean
• 36:56
  up,
• 36:56
  grow
• 36:56
  up,
• 36:57
  show
• 36:57
  up
• 36:57
  quickly
• 36:58
  enough
• 36:58
  for
• 36:59
  human
• 36:59
  life
• 36:59
  to
• 37:00
  be
• 37:00
  able
• 37:00
  to
• 37:00
  continue.
• 37:02
  That
• 37:02
  doesn't
• 37:03
  mean
• 37:03
  I'm
• 37:04
  going
• 37:04
  to
• 37:04
  stop
• 37:06
  doing
• 37:06
  what
• 37:06
  I
• 37:06
  can
• 37:07
  and
• 37:07
  being
• 37:07
  meticulous
• 37:08
  and
• 37:09
  looking
• 37:09
  at
• 37:10
  the
• 37:10
  choices
• 37:10
  that
• 37:10
  I'm
• 37:11
  making
• 37:11
  and
• 37:11
  how
• 37:11
  I
• 37:12
  live
• 37:12
  and
• 37:12
  the
• 37:13
  influence
• 37:13
  I
• 37:13
  have
• 37:14
  on
• 37:14
  others
• 37:15
  and,
• 37:16
  you
• 37:16
  know,
• 37:16
  doing
• 37:17
  what
• 37:17
  we
• 37:17
  can
• 37:17
  to
• 37:17
  be
• 37:18
  more
• 37:18
  impeccable
• 37:19
  in
• 37:19
  those
• 37:19
  choices
• 37:20
  and
• 37:21
  caring
• 37:21
  for
• 37:22
  our
• 37:22
  impact
• 37:23
  as
• 37:23
  we
• 37:23
  go
• 37:23
  along.
• 37:25
  So
• 37:25
  it's
• 37:26
  the
• 37:26
  both
• 37:26
  end.
• 37:27
  Beautifully
• 37:28
  said.
• 37:28
  And
• 37:30
  yes,
• 37:30
  given
• 37:30
  these
• 37:31
  extraordinary
• 37:32
  times
• 37:32
  in
• 37:32
  which
• 37:32
  there
• 37:33
  are
• 37:33
  unprecedented
• 37:35
  threats
• 37:35
  to
• 37:36
  our
• 37:37
  civilization
• 37:38
  and
• 37:38
  even
• 37:38
  our
• 37:39
  species
• 37:39
  and
• 37:39
  the
• 37:40
  planet.
• 37:40
  Of
• 37:40
  course
• 37:41
  there's
• 37:41
  a
• 37:41
  spectrum
• 37:42
  of
• 37:42
  attitudes
• 37:43
  people
• 37:43
  take
• 37:43
  from
• 37:44
  the
• 37:45
  doomers
• 37:46
  and
• 37:46
  collapsitarians
• 37:47
  to
• 37:48
  the
• 37:48
  techno
• 37:48
  utopians
• 37:49
  and
• 37:50
  despair.
• 37:51
  But
• 37:52
  I
• 37:52
  think
• 37:52
  you
• 37:52
  pointed
• 37:53
  to
• 37:53
  something
• 37:53
  that's
• 37:54
  really
• 37:54
  important
• 37:54
  that
• 37:55
  we
• 37:55
  don't
• 37:55
  know
• 37:55
  how
• 37:55
  it's
• 37:55
  going
• 37:55
  to
• 37:56
  turn
• 37:56
  out.
• 37:56
  But
• 37:57
  the
• 37:57
  question
• 37:58
  that
• 37:58
  we're
• 37:59
  left
• 37:59
  with
• 37:59
  is
• 38:00
  basically
• 38:00
  what
• 38:00
  can
• 38:01
  I
• 38:01
  do?
• 38:01
  Exactly.
• 38:02
  And
• 38:02
  right
• 38:02
  in
• 38:03
  the
• 38:03
  now
• 38:03
  because
• 38:04
  you
• 38:04
  know,
• 38:05
  despair,
• 38:05
  optimism,
• 38:06
  it's
• 38:07
  all
• 38:07
  past
• 38:07
  future,
• 38:08
  isn't
• 38:08
  it?
• 38:08
  And
• 38:10
  within
• 38:10
  that
• 38:10
  there
• 38:10
  is
• 38:11
  presumption
• 38:12
  that
• 38:12
  we
• 38:12
  know
• 38:12
  everything
• 38:13
  there
• 38:13
  is
• 38:13
  to
• 38:13
  know.
• 38:14
  And
• 38:14
  that's
• 38:14
  just
• 38:14
  simply
• 38:15
  not
• 38:15
  true,
• 38:16
  you
• 38:17
  know.
• 38:17
  And
• 38:17
  so
• 38:17
  I
• 38:17
  rest
• 38:18
  in
• 38:18
  that
• 38:19
  lesson.
• 38:19
  I
• 38:19
  do
• 38:19
  not
• 38:20
  know
• 38:20
  what
• 38:20
  anything
• 38:20
  is
• 38:20
  truly
• 38:21
  for
• 38:21
  it
• 38:22
  always
• 38:22
  brings
• 38:22
  me
• 38:23
  rest,
• 38:24
  refuge
• 38:25
  and
• 38:25
  it
• 38:25
  brings
• 38:25
  me
• 38:26
  right
• 38:26
  back
• 38:26
  to
• 38:27
  humility
• 38:28
  in
• 38:28
  the
• 38:29
  now.
• 38:30
  And
• 38:31
  what
• 38:31
  I
• 38:31
  know
• 38:32
  from
• 38:32
  experience
• 38:33
  is
• 38:33
  that
• 38:33
  is
• 38:33
  the
• 38:34
  posture
• 38:34
  of
• 38:35
  receptivity
• 38:36
  to
• 38:36
  exponential
• 38:37
  grace.
• 38:38
  Only
• 38:38
  when
• 38:39
  I'm
• 38:39
  willing
• 38:39
  to
• 38:39
  empty
• 38:40
  out
• 38:40
  of
• 38:41
  all
• 38:41
  my
• 38:41
  thoughts
• 38:42
  and
• 38:42
  opinions
• 38:42
  and
• 38:42
  presumptions,
• 38:43
  even
• 38:44
  if
• 38:44
  they're
• 38:44
  very
• 38:44
  informed
• 38:45
  ones.
• 38:46
  And
• 38:46
  I
• 38:47
  am
• 38:47
  willing
• 38:47
  to
• 38:48
  just
• 38:49
  open
• 38:49
  into
• 38:50
  the
• 38:50
  mystery
• 38:51
  of
• 38:51
  I
• 38:51
  don't
• 38:51
  know
• 38:52
  what
• 38:52
  anything
• 38:52
  is
• 38:53
  for.
• 38:53
  I
• 38:53
  don't
• 38:53
  even
• 38:54
  know
• 38:54
  what
• 38:54
  a
• 38:55
  hand
• 38:55
  is
• 38:55
  for.
• 38:55
  If
• 38:56
  you
• 38:56
  really
• 38:56
  go
• 38:56
  down
• 38:57
  into
• 38:57
  it,
• 38:58
  whatever
• 38:58
  the
• 38:58
  situation
• 38:59
  is,
• 38:59
  I
• 39:00
  don't
• 39:00
  know
• 39:00
  what
• 39:00
  it's
• 39:00
  for.
• 39:01
  It
• 39:01
  might
• 39:01
  be
• 39:02
  for
• 39:02
  a
• 39:02
  lot
• 39:02
  more
• 39:02
  than
• 39:03
  I
• 39:03
  think
• 39:03
  or
• 39:04
  I
• 39:04
  can
• 39:04
  even
• 39:05
  imagine
• 39:05
  or
• 39:05
  conceive.
• 39:07
  And
• 39:07
  so
• 39:07
  if
• 39:07
  I
• 39:08
  use
• 39:09
  that
• 39:09
  to
• 39:09
  help
• 39:10
  me
• 39:11
  be
• 39:11
  here
• 39:11
  now
• 39:12
  in
• 39:12
  all
• 39:13
  of
• 39:13
  it,
• 39:13
  the
• 39:13
  beauty
• 39:14
  and
• 39:14
  the
• 39:14
  horror
• 39:15
  and
• 39:15
  the
• 39:15
  things
• 39:16
  that
• 39:16
  are
• 39:16
  hard
• 39:16
  to
• 39:17
  bear
• 39:17
  and
• 39:18
  the
• 39:18
  hopes
• 39:18
  that
• 39:18
  we
• 39:19
  have
• 39:19
  that
• 39:19
  may
• 39:20
  or
• 39:20
  may
• 39:20
  not
• 39:20
  come
• 39:20
  to
• 39:21
  fruition.
• 39:22
  And
• 39:22
  I
• 39:22
  remember
• 39:23
  something
• 39:23
  deeper
• 39:24
  is
• 39:24
  in
• 39:25
  charge
• 39:26
  and
• 39:26
  has
• 39:27
  been
• 39:27
  in
• 39:27
  charge
• 39:28
  this
• 39:28
  whole
• 39:28
  time
• 39:29
  and
• 39:29
  knows
• 39:30
  what
• 39:30
  it's
• 39:30
  up
• 39:30
  to,
• 39:32
  then
• 39:32
  my
• 39:32
  job
• 39:33
  is
• 39:34
  to
• 39:34
  align
• 39:34
  with
• 39:35
  that,
• 39:35
  say
• 39:35
  yes
• 39:36
  to
• 39:36
  that,
• 39:36
  open
• 39:37
  to
• 39:37
  that,
• 39:37
  let
• 39:38
  that
• 39:38
  lead.
• 39:40
  Yeah.
• 39:41
  And
• 39:42
  your
• 39:42
  life
• 39:42
  has
• 39:43
  gone
• 39:43
  through
• 39:43
  a
• 39:43
  number
• 39:44
  of
• 39:44
  phases
• 39:44
  to
• 39:45
  bring
• 39:45
  you
• 39:45
  to
• 39:45
  this
• 39:45
  point.
• 39:46
  And
• 39:47
  we
• 39:48
  spoke,
• 39:48
  we
• 39:48
  began
• 39:48
  with
• 39:49
  talking
• 39:49
  about
• 39:49
  the
• 39:50
  remarkable
• 39:50
  opening
• 39:51
  you
• 39:51
  had
• 39:51
  in
• 39:51
  your
• 39:52
  early
• 39:52
  teens.
• 39:52
  But,
• 39:54
  and
• 39:54
  you've
• 39:54
  had,
• 39:54
  you
• 39:54
  know,
• 39:55
  you've
• 39:55
  done
• 39:55
  a
• 39:55
  lot
• 39:55
  of
• 39:55
  practice.
• 39:56
  There
• 39:56
  have
• 39:56
  been
• 39:56
  a
• 39:56
  lot
• 39:57
  of
• 39:57
  experiences
• 39:58
  and
• 39:58
  you've
• 39:58
  worked
• 39:59
  hard.
• 40:00
  And
• 40:00
  the
• 40:01
  other
• 40:01
  side
• 40:01
  of
• 40:01
  the
• 40:01
  work
• 40:02
  is
• 40:02
  as
• 40:02
  you
• 40:02
  emphasize,
• 40:03
  the
• 40:03
  grace
• 40:05
  and
• 40:05
  you
• 40:06
  had
• 40:06
  another
• 40:07
  really
• 40:08
  life
• 40:10
  changing
• 40:10
  and
• 40:10
  life
• 40:11
  orienting
• 40:12
  experience
• 40:12
  in
• 40:13
  Ramana
• 40:13
  Maharshi's
• 40:14
  cave.
• 40:14
  And
• 40:16
  quite
• 40:16
  a
• 40:16
  different
• 40:17
  quality
• 40:17
  from
• 40:18
  your
• 40:18
  earlier
• 40:18
  experience.
• 40:19
  Yeah,
• 40:20
  completely
• 40:21
  different.
• 40:21
  And
• 40:22
  you
• 40:22
  know,
• 40:22
  segueing
• 40:23
  from
• 40:23
  what
• 40:23
  we
• 40:24
  were
• 40:24
  speaking
• 40:24
  about.
• 40:24
  If
• 40:25
  I
• 40:25
  clung
• 40:27
  to
• 40:28
  the
• 40:28
  reality
• 40:29
  of
• 40:29
  boundless
• 40:30
  love
• 40:30
  being
• 40:31
  the
• 40:31
  only
• 40:31
  reality,
• 40:33
  the
• 40:33
  only
• 40:33
  way
• 40:34
  that
• 40:34
  reality
• 40:35
  or
• 40:35
  God
• 40:36
  with
• 40:36
  a
• 40:36
  capital
• 40:36
  G
• 40:37
  or
• 40:37
  capital
• 40:37
  R
• 40:38
  could
• 40:38
  be
• 40:38
  experienced
• 40:39
  and
• 40:39
  known,
• 40:40
  then
• 40:41
  it
• 40:41
  might
• 40:42
  not
• 40:42
  have
• 40:42
  been
• 40:42
  possible
• 40:43
  for
• 40:43
  something
• 40:43
  else
• 40:44
  to
• 40:44
  appear
• 40:45
  and
• 40:46
  educate
• 40:46
  me.
• 40:47
  There's
• 40:47
  a
• 40:47
  whole
• 40:47
  other
• 40:48
  universe.
• 40:50
  And
• 40:51
  so
• 40:51
  that
• 40:51
  happened.
• 40:52
  I
• 40:52
  kind
• 40:52
  of
• 40:52
  look
• 40:53
  at
• 40:53
  my
• 40:53
  life
• 40:53
  as
• 40:53
  BC
• 40:54
  before
• 40:54
  the
• 40:54
  cave
• 40:55
  and
• 40:55
  AC
• 40:55
  after
• 40:56
  the
• 40:56
  cave.
• 40:57
  Okay,
• 40:57
  right.
• 40:58
  So,
• 40:58
  you
• 40:59
  know,
• 40:59
  BC
• 41:00
  I
• 41:00
  was
• 41:00
  an
• 41:00
  interfaith
• 41:01
  minister
• 41:01
  and
• 41:02
  prayer
• 41:02
  and
• 41:03
  meditation
• 41:03
  was
• 41:03
  a
• 41:03
  central
• 41:04
  axis
• 41:04
  of
• 41:04
  my
• 41:05
  practice.
• 41:05
  But
• 41:06
  when
• 41:06
  I
• 41:06
  look
• 41:07
  back
• 41:07
  at
• 41:07
  that
• 41:07
  time,
• 41:08
  B.C.
• 41:09
  now,
• 41:09
  there
• 41:10
  was
• 41:10
  always
• 41:10
  a
• 41:10
  presumption
• 41:12
  that
• 41:13
  there
• 41:13
  were
• 41:13
  certain
• 41:13
  things
• 41:14
  in
• 41:14
  me
• 41:14
  that
• 41:14
  were
• 41:14
  impure,
• 41:15
  that
• 41:15
  needed
• 41:15
  to
• 41:16
  get
• 41:16
  out,
• 41:16
  that
• 41:17
  needed
• 41:17
  to
• 41:17
  not
• 41:17
  be
• 41:17
  there.
• 41:18
  And
• 41:19
  I
• 41:19
  realized
• 41:19
  that
• 41:20
  after
• 41:20
  the
• 41:21
  cave,
• 41:22
  where
• 41:22
  it
• 41:23
  was
• 41:23
  just
• 41:23
  this
• 41:24
  being
• 41:24
  absorbed
• 41:25
  into
• 41:27
  such
• 41:27
  a
• 41:27
  depth,
• 41:28
  the
• 41:29
  non
• 41:29
  conceptual
• 41:30
  that
• 41:30
  cannot
• 41:30
  be
• 41:30
  described,
• 41:31
  in
• 41:31
  which
• 41:33
  there
• 41:33
  is
• 41:33
  no
• 41:34
  one
• 41:34
  and
• 41:34
  no
• 41:35
  God
• 41:35
  and
• 41:36
  nothing.
• 41:37
  There's
• 41:37
  just
• 41:37
  nothing
• 41:38
  in
• 41:38
  no
• 41:38
  one.
• 41:38
  Right.
• 41:40
  No
• 41:40
  self,
• 41:41
  not
• 41:41
  even
• 41:41
  a
• 41:41
  concept
• 41:42
  of
• 41:42
  a
• 41:42
  no
• 41:43
  self,
• 41:44
  no
• 41:44
  witness,
• 41:46
  just
• 41:46
  pure
• 41:48
  being
• 41:49
  in
• 41:49
  its
• 41:51
  thunderous,
• 41:51
  unshakable,
• 41:53
  silent
• 41:54
  depth.
• 41:55
  Now
• 41:55
  I
• 41:55
  understand,
• 41:56
  you
• 41:56
  know,
• 41:56
  that's
• 41:57
  what
• 41:57
  Ramana
• 41:58
  Maharshi's
• 41:58
  transmission
• 41:59
  really
• 41:59
  is.
• 41:59
  You
• 41:59
  know,
• 41:59
  people
• 42:00
  ask
• 42:00
  me
• 42:00
  all
• 42:00
  the
• 42:00
  time,
• 42:01
  well,
• 42:01
  where
• 42:01
  can
• 42:01
  I
• 42:01
  read
• 42:02
  a
• 42:02
  book
• 42:02
  about
• 42:02
  Ramana?
• 42:03
  I
• 42:03
  said,
• 42:03
  well,
• 42:03
  you
• 42:03
  can
• 42:03
  read
• 42:03
  all
• 42:03
  the
• 42:03
  books
• 42:04
  you
• 42:04
  like,
• 42:04
  but
• 42:04
  that's
• 42:04
  not
• 42:04
  what
• 42:05
  it's
• 42:05
  about.
• 42:06
  Ramana's
• 42:06
  grace
• 42:07
  is
• 42:07
  Dakshinamurti
• 42:08
  Shiva
• 42:09
  teaching
• 42:09
  in
• 42:09
  silence.
• 42:09
  It's
• 42:10
  a
• 42:10
  transmission.
• 42:11
  And
• 42:11
  so
• 42:12
  that
• 42:12
  transmission
• 42:13
  absorbed
• 42:14
  me.
• 42:14
  I
• 42:14
  don't
• 42:15
  know
• 42:15
  how
• 42:15
  long
• 42:15
  I
• 42:15
  was
• 42:15
  in
• 42:15
  the
• 42:16
  cave
• 42:16
  really
• 42:17
  in
• 42:17
  terms
• 42:17
  of
• 42:18
  time,
• 42:18
  but
• 42:19
  what
• 42:19
  I
• 42:19
  do
• 42:19
  know
• 42:20
  is
• 42:20
  that
• 42:21
  it
• 42:21
  set
• 42:21
  off
• 42:21
  in
• 42:22
  motion
• 42:22
  profound
• 42:23
  changes
• 42:24
  that
• 42:24
  asked
• 42:24
  for
• 42:25
  a
• 42:25
  depth
• 42:26
  of
• 42:26
  surrender
• 42:26
  that
• 42:26
  was
• 42:27
  very
• 42:27
  total.
• 42:28
  And
• 42:29
  thankfully,
• 42:30
  there
• 42:30
  had
• 42:31
  been
• 42:31
  many
• 42:31
  years
• 42:32
  of
• 42:32
  practice
• 42:33
  and
• 42:33
  study
• 42:34
  and
• 42:34
  a
• 42:34
  spiritual
• 42:35
  musculature
• 42:36
  built
• 42:36
  up
• 42:36
  over
• 42:37
  the
• 42:37
  years
• 42:38
  that
• 42:40
  lends
• 42:40
  itself
• 42:41
  to
• 42:41
  a
• 42:42
  capacity
• 42:42
  to
• 42:43
  say
• 42:43
  yes,
• 42:43
  to
• 42:44
  just
• 42:44
  say
• 42:44
  okay.
• 42:45
  Even
• 42:45
  though
• 42:46
  it
• 42:46
  took
• 42:46
  everything,
• 42:47
  it
• 42:48
  took
• 42:48
  all
• 42:49
  things,
• 42:50
  all
• 42:50
  support
• 42:50
  structures,
• 42:52
  There
• 42:52
  was
• 42:52
  not
• 42:53
  one
• 42:53
  thing
• 42:53
  in
• 42:53
  my
• 42:54
  life,
• 42:54
  including
• 42:55
  my
• 42:56
  understanding
• 42:57
  of
• 42:57
  God
• 42:57
  and
• 42:57
  my
• 42:58
  prayer
• 42:58
  life,
• 42:58
  that
• 42:59
  it
• 42:59
  did
• 42:59
  not
• 42:59
  obliterate.
• 43:01
  That
• 43:01
  was
• 43:01
  the
• 43:01
  edgiest
• 43:02
  part.
• 43:02
  I
• 43:02
  couldn't
• 43:03
  pray
• 43:03
  anymore
• 43:04
  for
• 43:04
  a
• 43:04
  year.
• 43:06
  It
• 43:06
  was
• 43:06
  very
• 43:06
  awkward
• 43:07
  because
• 43:08
  the
• 43:08
  experience
• 43:09
  was
• 43:10
  like
• 43:10
  no
• 43:11
  words,
• 43:12
  no
• 43:13
  one
• 43:13
  to
• 43:13
  pray
• 43:14
  to,
• 43:14
  anything
• 43:15
  at
• 43:15
  all.
• 43:16
  All
• 43:16
  the
• 43:17
  spiritual
• 43:17
  concepts
• 43:17
  had
• 43:18
  been
• 43:18
  removed.
• 43:18
  And
• 43:19
  this
• 43:19
  is
• 43:20
  for
• 43:20
  someone
• 43:20
  who's
• 43:20
  leading
• 43:20
  an
• 43:21
  interfaith
• 43:21
  seminary,
• 43:22
  training
• 43:22
  other
• 43:22
  people
• 43:22
  to
• 43:22
  be
• 43:23
  ministers.
• 43:23
  You
• 43:23
  can
• 43:23
  imagine.
• 43:26
  Yeah,
• 43:26
  that's
• 43:26
  difficult,
• 43:27
  right?
• 43:27
  Being
• 43:27
  that
• 43:28
  erased.
• 43:30
  And
• 43:30
  of
• 43:30
  course
• 43:30
  it
• 43:30
  meant
• 43:31
  I
• 43:31
  had
• 43:31
  to
• 43:31
  let
• 43:31
  go
• 43:32
  of
• 43:32
  that
• 43:33
  function
• 43:33
  and
• 43:34
  hand
• 43:34
  it
• 43:34
  on
• 43:34
  to
• 43:34
  others
• 43:35
  because
• 43:35
  I
• 43:36
  could
• 43:36
  not
• 43:37
  put
• 43:37
  myself
• 43:37
  back
• 43:38
  into
• 43:38
  that
• 43:38
  square
• 43:39
  hole
• 43:39
  anymore.
• 43:40
  I
• 43:40
  was
• 43:40
  no
• 43:40
  longer
• 43:41
  a
• 43:41
  square
• 43:41
  peg.
• 43:42
  It
• 43:42
  wasn't
• 43:42
  possible.
• 43:43
  Yeah.
• 43:44
  So
• 43:44
  it's
• 43:44
  very
• 43:45
  deep.
• 43:45
  And
• 43:46
  then
• 43:46
  there
• 43:46
  was
• 43:46
  a
• 43:46
  big
• 43:47
  process
• 43:47
  of
• 43:48
  learning
• 43:48
  how
• 43:49
  to
• 43:49
  adapt
• 43:49
  to
• 43:50
  another
• 43:50
  level
• 43:50
  of
• 43:51
  intense
• 43:52
  vulnerability
• 43:53
  and
• 43:53
  openness.
• 43:55
  And
• 43:55
  my
• 43:55
  deepest
• 43:56
  yearning
• 43:57
  in
• 43:57
  all
• 43:57
  of
• 43:57
  that
• 43:57
  was
• 43:58
  how
• 43:59
  to
• 43:59
  function,
• 43:59
  how
• 44:00
  to
• 44:00
  be
• 44:00
  here
• 44:00
  in
• 44:00
  the
• 44:01
  world,
• 44:02
  how
• 44:02
  to
• 44:02
  navigate
• 44:03
  ordinary
• 44:03
  life
• 44:04
  without
• 44:04
  reconstructing
• 44:05
  an
• 44:05
  ego
• 44:06
  I
• 44:06
  really
• 44:06
  didn't
• 44:07
  know,
• 44:07
  like,
• 44:08
  and
• 44:08
  I
• 44:08
  had
• 44:08
  big
• 44:08
  things
• 44:09
  to
• 44:09
  deal
• 44:09
  with,
• 44:09
  like
• 44:10
  how
• 44:10
  to
• 44:10
  navigate
• 44:11
  the
• 44:11
  US
• 44:11
  Immigration
• 44:12
  system
• 44:12
  to
• 44:13
  get
• 44:13
  legal
• 44:13
  in
• 44:13
  America.
• 44:14
  As
• 44:14
  you
• 44:14
  know,
• 44:14
  Roger,
• 44:15
  that's
• 44:15
  not
• 44:15
  a
• 44:15
  simple
• 44:15
  matter,
• 44:17
  especially
• 44:17
  when
• 44:17
  you
• 44:17
  don't
• 44:17
  have
• 44:18
  a
• 44:18
  university
• 44:18
  doing
• 44:19
  that
• 44:19
  for
• 44:19
  you
• 44:20
  and
• 44:20
  you
• 44:20
  don't
• 44:20
  know
• 44:21
  anybody,
• 44:21
  which
• 44:22
  was
• 44:22
  my
• 44:22
  situation
• 44:24
  only
• 44:25
  you're
• 44:25
  hearing
• 44:25
  guidance
• 44:27
  come
• 44:27
  to
• 44:27
  the
• 44:28
  Bay
• 44:28
  Area,
• 44:28
  East
• 44:29
  North
• 44:29
  Bay,
• 44:30
  you
• 44:30
  know,
• 44:30
  very
• 44:30
  clear.
• 44:31
  So
• 44:32
  a
• 44:32
  lot
• 44:32
  of
• 44:32
  very
• 44:33
  complex
• 44:33
  practicalities
• 44:34
  had
• 44:35
  to
• 44:35
  get
• 44:35
  handled.
• 44:36
  Only
• 44:37
  I
• 44:37
  did
• 44:38
  not
• 44:38
  want
• 44:38
  to
• 44:39
  reconstellate
• 44:40
  as
• 44:40
  an
• 44:40
  ego
• 44:40
  self
• 44:41
  with
• 44:41
  all
• 44:42
  that
• 44:42
  stress
• 44:42
  and
• 44:42
  tension
• 44:43
  and
• 44:43
  insecurity
• 44:44
  and
• 44:44
  flapping
• 44:45
  around
• 44:45
  in
• 44:46
  order
• 44:46
  to
• 44:46
  navigate.
• 44:47
  So
• 44:48
  I
• 44:48
  learned
• 44:49
  a
• 44:49
  practice,
• 44:50
  and
• 44:50
  it
• 44:50
  was
• 44:50
  just
• 44:51
  three
• 44:51
  simple
• 44:52
  words.
• 44:53
  Okay,
• 44:53
  what
• 44:53
  now?
• 44:54
  What's
• 44:54
  needed
• 44:54
  now?
• 44:56
  And
• 44:57
  so
• 44:57
  this
• 44:58
  was
• 44:58
  nurtured
• 44:59
  by
• 45:00
  all
• 45:00
  my
• 45:00
  years
• 45:00
  of
• 45:01
  study
• 45:01
  in
• 45:01
  A
• 45:01
  Course
• 45:01
  in
• 45:02
  Miracles,
• 45:02
  which
• 45:02
  the
• 45:03
  text
• 45:03
  kind
• 45:03
  of
• 45:04
  leads
• 45:04
  us
• 45:04
  to
• 45:05
  make
• 45:05
  no
• 45:05
  decisions
• 45:06
  of
• 45:06
  yourself.
• 45:08
  Well,
• 45:09
  that
• 45:09
  actually
• 45:09
  is
• 45:10
  very
• 45:10
  practical,
• 45:10
  good
• 45:11
  advice
• 45:11
  because
• 45:12
  your
• 45:12
  ego
• 45:13
  self
• 45:13
  only
• 45:14
  knows
• 45:14
  what
• 45:14
  it
• 45:14
  knows.
• 45:15
  It
• 45:15
  only
• 45:16
  knows
• 45:16
  how
• 45:16
  to
• 45:17
  navigate
• 45:17
  life
• 45:18
  from
• 45:18
  the
• 45:18
  paradigm
• 45:19
  of
• 45:20
  being
• 45:20
  a
• 45:20
  separate
• 45:20
  somebody
• 45:21
  who
• 45:21
  thinks
• 45:22
  it's
• 45:22
  in
• 45:22
  charge,
• 45:23
  who
• 45:24
  thinks
• 45:24
  that
• 45:24
  it
• 45:24
  has
• 45:25
  to
• 45:25
  contract
• 45:25
  in
• 45:26
  order
• 45:26
  to
• 45:26
  do
• 45:26
  everything,
• 45:26
  who
• 45:27
  thinks
• 45:27
  it's
• 45:27
  the
• 45:27
  thinker,
• 45:28
  who
• 45:28
  thinks
• 45:28
  it's
• 45:28
  the
• 45:28
  doer,
• 45:29
  in
• 45:30
  which
• 45:30
  there's
• 45:30
  inevitably
• 45:31
  insecurity,
• 45:32
  anxiety,
• 45:32
  and
• 45:33
  a
• 45:33
  bunch
• 45:33
  of
• 45:33
  stress.
• 45:35
  So
• 45:36
  I
• 45:36
  have
• 45:36
  been
• 45:36
  interested.
• 45:37
  Well,
• 45:38
  is
• 45:38
  there
• 45:38
  a
• 45:38
  way
• 45:39
  to
• 45:39
  show
• 45:39
  up
• 45:39
  at
• 45:40
  my
• 45:40
  desk,
• 45:41
  right
• 45:41
  to
• 45:42
  complex
• 45:42
  tasks
• 45:43
  with
• 45:43
  my
• 45:44
  students,
• 45:45
  in
• 45:45
  the
• 45:45
  kitchen
• 45:45
  with
• 45:46
  my
• 45:46
  husband
• 45:46
  when
• 45:46
  we're
• 45:46
  having
• 45:47
  a
• 45:47
  debate
• 45:47
  about
• 45:47
  something
• 45:49
  as
• 45:49
  I'm
• 45:49
  watching
• 45:50
  the
• 45:50
  news?
• 45:50
  Is
• 45:50
  there
• 45:50
  a
• 45:50
  way
• 45:51
  to
• 45:51
  show
• 45:51
  up
• 45:51
  in
• 45:51
  all
• 45:52
  of
• 45:52
  that
• 45:53
  in
• 45:53
  a
• 45:53
  different
• 45:53
  way,
• 45:54
  from
• 45:54
  a
• 45:54
  deeper
• 45:55
  place
• 45:55
  that
• 45:56
  I
• 45:56
  do
• 45:56
  know
• 45:57
  from
• 45:57
  experience?
• 45:59
  And
• 45:59
  that's
• 46:00
  my
• 46:00
  ongoing
• 46:00
  inquiry.
• 46:02
  Stay
• 46:02
  tuned
• 46:03
  for
• 46:03
  part
• 46:03
  two,
• 46:03
  in
• 46:03
  which
• 46:04
  we
• 46:04
  dive
• 46:04
  deeper
• 46:05
  into
• 46:05
  some
• 46:05
  of
• 46:05
  Miranda's
• 46:06
  experiences
• 46:07
  and
• 46:07
  the
• 46:08
  teaching
• 46:08
  of
• 46:08
  she
• 46:09
  has
• 46:09
  to
• 46:09
  suggest
• 46:09
  how
• 46:10
  we
• 46:10
  can
• 46:10
  live
• 46:11
  most
• 46:11
  fully
• 46:12
  and
• 46:12
  express
• 46:13
  and
• 46:13
  contribute
• 46:13
  most
• 46:14
  effectively.
• 46:15
  Thank
• 46:15
  you
• 46:15
  very
• 46:15
  much
• 46:16
  for
• 46:16
  being
• 46:16
  a
• 46:17
  part
• 46:17
  of
• 46:17
  this
• 46:17
  conversation.
• 46:18
  We
• 46:18
  hope
• 46:18
  that
• 46:19
  you
• 46:19
  were
• 46:19
  moved,
• 46:19
  as
• 46:20
  we
• 46:20
  are
• 46:20
  moved,
• 46:21
  being
• 46:21
  part
• 46:21
  of
• 46:21
  it
• 46:21
  ourselves.
• 46:22
  We'd
• 46:23
  also
• 46:23
  like
• 46:23
  to
• 46:23
  say
• 46:23
  that
• 46:24
  this
• 46:24
  is
• 46:24
  being
• 46:24
  funded
• 46:25
  by
• 46:25
  Roger
• 46:26
  and
• 46:26
  myself.
• 46:26
  It
• 46:26
  comes
• 46:26
  out
• 46:26
  of
• 46:27
  our
• 46:27
  pockets.
• 46:27
  So
• 46:27
  if
• 46:28
  you
• 46:28
  would
• 46:28
  like
• 46:28
  to
• 46:28
  help
• 46:28
  us
• 46:29
  to
• 46:29
  mainly
• 46:30
  to
• 46:30
  get
• 46:30
  this
• 46:31
  podcast
• 46:31
  out
• 46:31
  to
• 46:31
  more
• 46:32
  people
• 46:32
  because
• 46:32
  the
• 46:32
  bigger
• 46:33
  audience
• 46:33
  have,
• 46:33
  which
• 46:33
  is
• 46:34
  still
• 46:34
  growing,
• 46:34
  but
• 46:34
  the
• 46:35
  more
• 46:35
  people
• 46:35
  we
• 46:35
  can
• 46:36
  reach
• 46:36
  and
• 46:36
  the
• 46:36
  more
• 46:36
  marketing
• 46:37
  we
• 46:37
  can
• 46:37
  do,
• 46:37
  the
• 46:38
  more
• 46:38
  positive
• 46:38
  effect
• 46:39
  we
• 46:39
  can
• 46:39
  have
• 46:39
  on
• 46:39
  the
• 46:39
  world.
• 46:40
  So
• 46:40
  we've
• 46:40
  done
• 46:41
  a
• 46:41
  couple
• 46:41
  of
• 46:41
  ways,
• 46:41
  but
• 46:41
  we'd
• 46:42
  like
• 46:42
  you
• 46:42
  to
• 46:42
  buy
• 46:42
  us
• 46:43
  a
• 46:43
  cup
• 46:43
  of
• 46:43
  coffee.
• 46:43
  Very
• 46:44
  simple.
• 46:44
  And
• 46:44
  I
• 46:44
  do
• 46:45
  that
• 46:45
  with
• 46:45
  podcasts
• 46:46
  that
• 46:46
  I
• 46:47
  support.
• 46:47
  And
• 46:47
  I
• 46:48
  find
• 46:48
  it's
• 46:48
  very
• 46:48
  satisfying.
• 46:49
  So
• 46:49
  thank
• 46:50
  you
• 46:50
  for
• 46:50
  your
• 46:50
  help.
• 46:50
  Thank
• 46:51
  you
• 46:51
  for
• 46:51
  your
• 46:51
  presence,
• 46:52
  and
• 46:52
  thank
• 46:52
  you
• 46:52
  for
• 46:52
  all
• 46:53
  you
• 46:53
  are
• 46:53
  and
• 46:53
  all
• 46:54
  you
• 46:54
  do.
• 46:54
  We
• 46:54
  love
• 46:54
  you.
• 46:59
  Sam.