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- 0:00Speaker 1: No, no, no.
- 0:00Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on. The cult of Chucky.
- 0:06Speaker 3: Why are we doing British weird?
- 0:09Speaker 2: It's not British. It's more Swedish.
- 0:12Speaker 3: It sounds like... That's true, yeah. That's true. That is
- 0:16Speaker 3: way more Swedish. It's like upper class Swedish.
- 0:18Speaker 2: I was trying to do it where they've learned English
- 0:21Speaker 2: really well.
- 0:22Speaker 3: Really well. Do you only hear Tien's accent?
- 0:27Speaker 2: Hello everyone and welcome to Thirsty for Gold! I, of course,
- 0:32Speaker 2: am your host, Milenko.
- 0:34Speaker 3: And I'm Alex.
- 0:35Speaker 2: Nice to meet you. And today we're talking about 2017's
- 0:39Speaker 2: Cult of Chucky.
- 0:43Speaker 3: We're talking about 2017's.
- 0:47Speaker 2: Don Manzini's Cult of Chucky.
- 0:51Speaker 3: David Kirshner's Chucky.
- 0:55Speaker 2: Who's David Kirshner?
- 0:56Speaker 3: He's the guy who created the puppet.
- 0:58Speaker 2: Billy the puppet?
- 0:59Speaker 3: No, Chucky the puppet. And subsequently, Bride of Chucky.
- 1:03Speaker 2: Bride of Chucky the puppet. Bride of Chucky the puppet.
- 1:07Speaker 3: Some of the weird stuff in the Don Mancini-verse. The
- 1:12Speaker 3: weird kind of... social commentary that he tries to weave
- 1:18Speaker 3: in dude it's so random it's so weird like like
- 1:21Speaker 3: i didn't i've never dated somebody who's so into guns
- 1:25Speaker 3: well i'm not a gun nut i believe it.
- 1:28Speaker 2: There's like it's it's like um it's funny because it's
- 1:32Speaker 2: like such obvious pov Yeah, this, like, opening date sequence
- 1:36Speaker 2: with just, like, Andy, embodied Andy, dude. Embodied Andy, who
- 1:42Speaker 2: is such a good actor, dude.
- 1:44Speaker 3: He is so good.
- 1:45Speaker 2: He's such a good actor.
- 1:46Speaker 3: He somehow grew into a way more plain-looking man. Because
- 1:50Speaker 3: he's such an impactful kid. But he, like, his acting
- 1:54Speaker 3: ability is kind of, like... Excuse me, what? You know
- 1:58Speaker 3: what I mean? It's, like, almost very secondary.
- 2:01Speaker 2: Dude, his, like, micro-expressions and, like... Very good. The way
- 2:05Speaker 2: he was, like, really listening and reacting in the scene. Like,
- 2:09Speaker 2: you can tell he's, like... It feels like he's from, like,
- 2:11Speaker 2: the Bryan Cranston school, you know? Of, like, show up. Like,
- 2:16Speaker 2: show up for the part.
- 2:17Speaker 3: Yeah, there are these... Just these, like... He's such a pro... Yeah.
- 2:21Speaker 3: For being somebody who's only been in these movies, to
- 2:26Speaker 3: be such a bro is very strange.
- 2:28Speaker 2: He's so good. And yeah, I mean, like, listen, I'm
- 2:31Speaker 2: on his side, dude. It's okay to own some guns.
- 2:33Speaker 2: It's okay to be, you know, like, I just, I
- 2:37Speaker 2: think it's, it's, it's interesting, like how there's like this,
- 2:42Speaker 2: what I love about it, dude, is actually it's in
- 2:45Speaker 2: keeping with the character so much that he's just like, no,
- 2:49Speaker 2: like I need to protect myself. Like, Andy, for a
- 2:53Speaker 2: guy who went to military school and was hunted by
- 2:56Speaker 2: a Chucky his whole life, there's 37... He went to.
- 2:58Speaker 3: Military school at nine years old? I mean, at 15
- 3:00Speaker 3: years old? 37 kills, like.
- 3:02Speaker 2: Around you?
- 3:02Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 3:02Speaker 2: Yeah, he's... Weird, dude.
- 3:09Speaker 3: I would immediately be like, no, I'm sorry. No, I
- 3:13Speaker 3: did Google you and I came here because you're a
- 3:16Speaker 3: freak show.
- 3:16Speaker 2: It's going to be a no for me, Doug.
- 3:18Speaker 3: And I wanted a story. I needed to tell my
- 3:20Speaker 3: girlfriend something. I needed to see exactly.
- 3:22Speaker 2: I'm a sex in the city type writer in this city.
- 3:26Speaker 2: Whatever city this is, Calgary, Winnipeg.
- 3:29Speaker 3: No, it's Winnipeg. Yeah.
- 3:31Speaker 2: It was so obviously Winnipeg to that overhead shower. It's like,
- 3:36Speaker 2: American city is that.
- 3:37Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. And the sort of... There is this
- 3:41Speaker 3: thing in the Mancini-verse as well, is, like, the scene
- 3:44Speaker 3: is done, and, like, she's like, no, this is too
- 3:51Speaker 3: much for me. There's, like, a full... There's a full
- 3:54Speaker 3: glass of wine on the table. There's, like... It's just, like,
- 3:57Speaker 3: they seem to have already ordered the food, and it's like, wait,
- 4:02Speaker 3: you're just leaving now? It's like... It feels like Don
- 4:05Speaker 3: Monsignor was like, I tell the audience when the scene
- 4:08Speaker 3: is over, and this is when it's over. You know
- 4:10Speaker 3: what I mean?
- 4:11Speaker 2: Absolutely.
- 4:12Speaker 3: This doesn't have to make sense. This is the first
- 4:15Speaker 3: time I've felt that in these movies, where some of
- 4:19Speaker 3: the stuff that's kind of brushed over in the other
- 4:22Speaker 3: ones is like, oh, it's brushed over out of convenience.
- 4:25Speaker 3: But it feels like a choice.
- 4:27Speaker 2: Yeah. Like, yeah, we do remember and we don't care.
- 4:32Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
- 4:33Speaker 2: Well, like, yeah. And that's, okay. That's what I wanted
- 4:37Speaker 2: to talk about. I need to rewind a bit for
- 4:39Speaker 2: a second, okay? And I need to talk to you
- 4:42Speaker 2: for a second about the last movie, okay?
- 4:44Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 4:44Speaker 2: Curse of Chucky. I think justice for Curse of Chucky
- 4:51Speaker 2: for two reasons, okay? I think that making an entire
- 4:56Speaker 2: movie that feels very self-contained and like lowers the stakes
- 5:02Speaker 2: this late into a series while then also tying it
- 5:05Speaker 2: back to the deeper lore of the movie and then
- 5:07Speaker 2: creating a sequel that continues that lore is like such
- 5:12Speaker 2: like a deep commitment to storytelling and like, like a
- 5:16Speaker 2: kind of like admirable swing in a way that like,
- 5:20Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't, care for it as much as
- 5:26Speaker 2: like it was like i admire the swing you know
- 5:28Speaker 2: what i mean like seeing this movie now and seeing
- 5:33Speaker 2: what this his idea of the story was a little
- 5:37Speaker 2: bit ruined it for me in a way like was
- 5:39Speaker 2: the other one yeah the other one the other one
- 5:43Speaker 2: but but knowing that and having that in mind I'm like,
- 5:48Speaker 2: I admire this movie so much.
- 5:49Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like you could have done what one
- 5:55Speaker 3: of those fan edits did with Prometheus and Alien Covenant.
- 6:00Speaker 3: Where it's like, if you combine these really good ideas
- 6:02Speaker 3: into one movie, it would feel so much better. It
- 6:06Speaker 3: almost feels like if they did the Evil Dead 2 thing... too,
- 6:10Speaker 3: where it's like they kind of recapped what happened in
- 6:12Speaker 3: this one, or in the last one, in this one,
- 6:15Speaker 3: you would just have a way more interesting story. Because
- 6:18Speaker 3: this is weird. It gets weird. It's very Boku Demolat.
- 6:25Speaker 3: It is Boku Demolat. I think....
- 6:29Speaker 2: So he arrives home. Okay, it is weird. It's weird.
- 6:33Speaker 2: It's so weird. And I admire the, like, big swing.
- 6:36Speaker 2: I admire, like, fucking, like, insane sadistic Andy.
- 6:41Speaker 3: It's also, like, it looks way better. Like, it's still budget,
- 6:45Speaker 3: but it looks way better. It feels way better, and
- 6:47Speaker 3: it doesn't have the.
- 6:49Speaker 2: It does look better.
- 6:50Speaker 3: It doesn't have the gothic stuff, which kind of, to me,
- 6:54Speaker 3: drags it down. This fully puts it in like, oh,
- 6:57Speaker 3: this is like now.
- 6:58Speaker 2: Well, listen, and I think this one also confirms that it's... Chucky.
- 7:10Speaker 2: because because it's direct to direct to video chucky yeah
- 7:15Speaker 2: and it has that kind of like saw look that
- 7:18Speaker 2: eventually saw kind of was like deeply.
- 7:21Speaker 3: A hundred percent yeah um and.
- 7:23Speaker 2: Which is okay it's like i'm not admonishing it for
- 7:26Speaker 2: it it just like feels like a certain kind of
- 7:28Speaker 2: like era and budget of filmmaking.
- 7:31Speaker 3: Like it's like oh digital cameras are so good now
- 7:33Speaker 3: that it can look like a real movie again yeah
- 7:36Speaker 3: whereas the other one is like digital cameras.
- 7:38Speaker 2: Are cheaper he kind of looks like Riker sometimes.
- 7:41Speaker 3: He looks a lot like Riker I think you're right
- 7:44Speaker 3: and he comes home and he's like drinking a beer
- 7:47Speaker 3: and is like he goes to his Kent Military Academy
- 7:51Speaker 3: poster and takes off the the portrait to that and
- 7:57Speaker 3: opens the safe and It's, dude, I was like, if
- 8:02Speaker 3: it sustains this, I think this is going to be
- 8:06Speaker 3: my favorite of the new ones. And it doesn't quite
- 8:09Speaker 3: sustain it. It doesn't quite.
- 8:11Speaker 2: Chucky, again, other than disemboweled head that's being tortured, Chucky,
- 8:16Speaker 2: I didn't like Boku Dabla, Chucky. I didn't like, like...
- 8:22Speaker 2: The idea of Chucky in this movie... This stuff?
- 8:26Speaker 3: Where I was like... Where he pulls out the head
- 8:29Speaker 3: and is like, oh, okay.
- 8:32Speaker 2: Him torturing the head is.
- 8:36Speaker 3: Amazing. It is amazing.
- 8:37Speaker 2: It is amazing.
- 8:38Speaker 3: It's amazing.
- 8:38Speaker 2: It's amazing because it's such a weird eventuality.
- 8:43Speaker 3: That makes sense. It feels like he lights a joint, too,
- 8:48Speaker 3: which is even better. And then he shares the joint.
- 8:50Speaker 3: It's amazing. I feel like.
- 8:52Speaker 2: And Chucky tries to bite him.
- 8:54Speaker 3: If I was.
- 8:58Speaker 2: Canonically likes weed, Chucky.
- 8:59Speaker 3: We know.
- 9:00Speaker 2: Oh, 100%. From part four, we know.
- 9:01Speaker 3: Well, like, the interesting thing to me about the, like,
- 9:05Speaker 3: Chucky head dynamic is that what would have made a
- 9:10Speaker 3: more interesting movie to me... I knew they were going
- 9:13Speaker 3: to continue the Nika stuff and some of the Andy
- 9:15Speaker 3: stuff and obviously the Tiff stuff, but.
- 9:19Speaker 2: But they made it make sense, dude.
- 9:20Speaker 3: They made it make sense.
- 9:21Speaker 2: The thing that you were like, wait, what is this?
- 9:24Speaker 3: And then... But... The interesting thing about this dynamic is
- 9:28Speaker 3: I kind of wish this was the whole movie.
- 9:30Speaker 2: Me too, dude. This was some of the most interesting stuff. Like,
- 9:34Speaker 2: having Andy, like, be able to, like, confront his demons
- 9:38Speaker 2: in such a direct way.
- 9:39Speaker 3: Yeah, like a literal way is very strange.
- 9:42Speaker 2: And, like, there's a kind of, like... Because it's the
- 9:45Speaker 2: beginning of the movie, there's a kind of win for
- 9:48Speaker 2: Andy that this feels like we know is going to be, like, robbed. Because, like,
- 9:52Speaker 2: it's still the beginning of the... 100%.
- 9:54Speaker 3: And then, but also, the neat thing about it is
- 9:57Speaker 3: that he's like, oh, but.
- 10:00Speaker 1: we never found out the redhead had the carpets match
- 10:03Speaker 1: the drapes you know it's the implication that Andy is
- 10:07Speaker 1: talking to the Chucky head about his.
- 10:12Speaker 3: Like, also makes it weird. That, like, that's... Because that
- 10:15Speaker 3: is the implication, right? Yeah, dude. That he's, like, telling
- 10:18Speaker 3: him about.
- 10:20Speaker 2: I mean, he's their friend to the end, dude.
- 10:23Speaker 3: That's what's amazing about it, is that it's like, yeah, dude.
- 10:26Speaker 2: But this, like... Just, like, fucking blowtorching his head.
- 10:32Speaker 3: Amazing. Amazing.
- 10:34Speaker 2: It was pretty insane, dude. It looked really cool.
- 10:37Speaker 3: It looked really... All of the....
- 10:40Speaker 2: The disemboweled head Chucky is the only good Chucky in
- 10:44Speaker 2: this movie. I don't like short hair Chucky.
- 10:47Speaker 3: I disagree. I like all the Chuckies. We'll talk about it.
- 10:52Speaker 2: We'll talk about it, dude. Do you like the guy Chucky?
- 10:56Speaker 3: I like the, yeah, the Agent Smith Chucky. The one
- 11:00Speaker 3: who escaped the Matrix and came into a body.
- 11:06Speaker 2: I can't wait to talk about all the different Chucky's.
- 11:09Speaker 2: All the different Chucky's.
- 11:11Speaker 3: Yeah, we gotta talk about all the different Chucky's.
- 11:14Speaker 2: All the different Chucky's.
- 11:15Speaker 3: We gotta talk about our main lead Chucky.
- 11:18Speaker 2: Which is Nika. Oh, yeah, yeah.
- 11:21Speaker 3: Okay.
- 11:22Speaker 2: Please, dude.
- 11:24Speaker 3: Not yet.
- 11:24Speaker 2: Nika, hold on.
- 11:25Speaker 3: This was.
- 11:26Speaker 2: Describe the face I'm doing, dude.
- 11:28Speaker 3: Okay. Um, it's sort of AP... AP Tilted.
- 11:36Speaker 2: Hold on, but also it's side face. You gotta say
- 11:39Speaker 2: it's side face.
- 11:40Speaker 3: It's side face, yeah.
- 11:42Speaker 2: That was her entire face in the whole movie.
- 11:45Speaker 3: 100%. I mean, that's her face, dude. She's got that
- 11:47Speaker 3: door and forehead, too.
- 11:48Speaker 2: She did side door and forehead.
- 11:50Speaker 3: She was so adorable. She had so much forehead acting.
- 11:53Speaker 2: It was great. Dude, it was like... The way she
- 11:56Speaker 2: had her hair up in kind of like a Joker style...
- 11:59Speaker 2: I love Nika. I love Nika. I love Nika in
- 12:02Speaker 2: this movie. Like, tragic Sarah Connor energy. I'm doing the face.
- 12:07Speaker 3: Speaking of Sarah Connor. Oh man, there's so much stuff.
- 12:09Speaker 2: All the different Chucky's. All the different Chucky's.
- 12:12Speaker 3: And this, so we get introduced to her again. She's getting...
- 12:16Speaker 3: Opening montage scene, dude. Oh yeah, the montage of all
- 12:19Speaker 3: the previous... All the different Chucky's. Don Mancini's Chucky. All
- 12:24Speaker 3: the Don Mancini's Chucky's. Um....
- 12:28Speaker 2: Nika Pierce ruled mentally insane. So we get some back
- 12:31Speaker 2: lore in newspapers. She's getting electrocuted.
- 12:34Speaker 3: She's getting electroshock therapied in a way that only a
- 12:37Speaker 3: Chucky movie could do where there's only like four people
- 12:40Speaker 3: in this hospital doing everything.
- 12:42Speaker 2: Chucky loves electrocution. Dude, also, this one definitely, definitely, this
- 12:48Speaker 2: movie loves Dream Warriors, dude.
- 12:51Speaker 3: 100%. Dude, Dream Warriors, Terminator 2, like there's full lines everywhere.
- 12:55Speaker 3: In this, out of Terminator.
- 12:57Speaker 2: Yeah, it's confirmed now.
- 13:00Speaker 3: It is confirmed now, 100%. Terminator, Chucky.
- 13:02Speaker 2: Terminator, Chucky. I mean, it does feel at this point,
- 13:07Speaker 2: it is that song. It is the realization of Chucky,
- 13:11Speaker 2: and it's just Chucky now. Yeah. It's everybody Chucky now. Everyone,
- 13:17Speaker 2: everybody Chucky.
- 13:18Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody Chucky for sure.
- 13:21Speaker 2: See, I can stab her foot with CGI blood that
- 13:26Speaker 2: comes out in one drip.
- 13:27Speaker 3: We're introduced to Dr. Foley, who I loved. I loved Dr. Foley.
- 13:33Speaker 3: The hair.
- 13:34Speaker 2: Rape face.
- 13:35Speaker 3: Such rape face energy.
- 13:36Speaker 2: Yeah. He's just like, I'm a rapist. I'm proud to
- 13:42Speaker 2: be a rapist. That's what he says.
- 13:45Speaker 3: And then, like, he's the main doctor head of this situation. But, again,
- 13:51Speaker 3: there's only, like, five people who work in this building
- 13:54Speaker 3: because of budget. Budget cuts, dude. Not to the movie.
- 13:57Speaker 2: Because of all the different... They had to do all
- 13:59Speaker 2: the different Chucky's, dude.
- 14:00Speaker 3: And then, like, he's, like, you use.
- 14:04Speaker 2: He's got, like, kind of, like, Richard Gere energy.
- 14:06Speaker 3: Definitely. Definitely. He's telling her... like recapping the murder stuff
- 14:15Speaker 3: being like you killed like five people yeah you you
- 14:18Speaker 3: wear chucky as a mask all the different chucky's as
- 14:22Speaker 3: a man.
- 14:22Speaker 2: It's true he's a he's like reminds me of like
- 14:26Speaker 2: the bill maher doctor from the left from freddie dude
- 14:30Speaker 2: oh yeah totally it's that he's good but but that
- 14:33Speaker 2: guy's more of a like a fucking loser simp this
- 14:37Speaker 2: this guy is like this guy's a fucking rapist dude Like,
- 14:41Speaker 2: at least that guy tried to have a little bit
- 14:44Speaker 2: of game, but he didn't succeed at it.
- 14:46Speaker 3: Well, he was, like, a little bit more normie than
- 14:49Speaker 3: this guy. This guy is, like, he knows what's happening.
- 14:52Speaker 2: This guy seems like he likes steampunk, dude. He's got, like,
- 14:55Speaker 2: the monocle.
- 14:56Speaker 3: I'm gonna transfer you to this low-stakes, low-effort prison. Schizophrenia
- 15:03Speaker 3: is an illness, and we're gonna make you better.
- 15:06Speaker 2: Oh, man, it's... It's so weird because, like, we know
- 15:10Speaker 2: that she's not, you know, that, like, everything that she
- 15:14Speaker 2: says happened to her happened to her, dude. And, yeah,
- 15:19Speaker 2: it's fucked. It's like a sad ending for Nika, you know?
- 15:24Speaker 2: It's a sad eventuality because, like, well, we know what's
- 15:26Speaker 2: going to happen to her. But because Chucky's the, like,
- 15:31Speaker 2: the main guy now.
- 15:33Speaker 3: Yeah, he's the main character again, kind of in the movie.
- 15:35Speaker 2: Kind of, like side main character.
- 15:38Speaker 3: But this is like.
- 15:39Speaker 2: Simulacrum Chucky.
- 15:41Speaker 3: But this also feels like I don't need a bunch
- 15:46Speaker 3: of the stuff that the other one did, that Curse
- 15:50Speaker 3: of Chucky did, where it was like, We have to
- 15:52Speaker 3: introduce all the characters. And then they, like, dump, they
- 15:56Speaker 3: lore dump so much at the end to be like,
- 15:59Speaker 3: this is why you're important to Chucky lore. And it's, like,
- 16:02Speaker 3: kind of back-lore-ifying.
- 16:03Speaker 2: Dude, I love this gay nurse that's like, I'm gay.
- 16:09Speaker 3: Yeah, Nurse Carlos. But it's very casually, like, my husband.
- 16:14Speaker 2: Because my husband did this.
- 16:16Speaker 3: My husband has MS.
- 16:17Speaker 2: This is the kind of thing that people watch and
- 16:20Speaker 2: say that it's woke and gay. This probably gets a
- 16:23Speaker 2: really high mark on the woke and gay meter.
- 16:26Speaker 3: Really? This is so much less than the other ones,
- 16:29Speaker 3: because it's just him mentioning.
- 16:31Speaker 2: I'm not saying that I believe that. I'm saying that
- 16:34Speaker 2: that's what other people think.
- 16:36Speaker 3: And, obviously, not just trans Chucky in this.
- 16:42Speaker 2: Well, like, Chucky's, like, we've established, like, all gender Chucky. Yeah, he's...
- 16:47Speaker 2: It's Chucky's everybody. Everybody is Chucky.
- 16:49Speaker 3: Everybody Chucky, yeah.
- 16:50Speaker 2: You don't realize, dude, that you've just created a million Chucky's.
- 16:55Speaker 3: It's true.
- 16:56Speaker 2: Andy, by shooting Andy in the neck.
- 16:57Speaker 3: It's real Charlie Kirk, dude. It's with the Chucky's.
- 17:01Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk!
- 17:03Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, he is... We are Charlie... We are
- 17:05Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk!
- 17:08Speaker 2: Dude, Charlie?
- 17:09Speaker 3: What's the main character in Star Wars' name?
- 17:12Speaker 2: Luke Skywalker?
- 17:13Speaker 3: Who created Star Wars? George Lucas? George Luke?
- 17:19Speaker 2: Kiss.
- 17:19Speaker 3: Yeah. He's the main character in Star Wars. He kissed
- 17:24Speaker 3: his sister!
- 17:25Speaker 2: Charles Lee Chucky Lee fucking Kirk? It's the Kirkification of Chucky, dude.
- 17:31Speaker 2: We've come to it.
- 17:33Speaker 3: Another Chucky, Nurse Carlos... uh leaves a uh.
- 17:39Speaker 2: Does he also no he doesn't become chucky he gets
- 17:41Speaker 2: disemboweled his.
- 17:42Speaker 3: Name is carlos oh he's oh that's right sorry yes
- 17:44Speaker 3: yes he kissed his sister as carlos estevez dude that's
- 17:48Speaker 3: the real.
- 17:48Speaker 2: Charlie sheen charlie sheen charlie kirk i got it dude.
- 17:52Speaker 3: I understand uh carlos leaves uh a little gum for
- 17:57Speaker 3: uh for Nika because he's like, he wants to be
- 18:01Speaker 3: a cool, cool nurse. Who's like, I'm a hard ass,
- 18:05Speaker 3: but with a heart of gold. Yeah.
- 18:07Speaker 2: And then he like, she waves at him later in
- 18:09Speaker 2: the common room and he's like, don't do it in
- 18:11Speaker 2: front of people. Um, and then she rolls over to,
- 18:16Speaker 2: to meet this like sissy space, like looking.
- 18:19Speaker 3: Wait, wait, hold on. You didn't, you didn't set up that. Uh,
- 18:23Speaker 3: Carlos also pulls out, uh, her niece's photo.
- 18:27Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
- 18:28Speaker 3: Alice. Alice. Hi, Alice. Want to make babies? It's definitely
- 18:32Speaker 3: a nod to that. It's a nod.
- 18:34Speaker 2: 100%. To all the different junkies.
- 18:36Speaker 3: But yeah, we get into the common room of this
- 18:41Speaker 3: hospital that's like, what is this hospital?
- 18:43Speaker 2: What is this for? It's like a weird institute.
- 18:45Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 18:46Speaker 2: It's like, I don't know. I don't know.
- 18:49Speaker 3: It looked it looked like saw reality it was very
- 18:53Speaker 3: sorry which again i prefer look at.
- 18:55Speaker 2: This lighting dude like it.
- 18:56Speaker 3: Looks so wherever all the windows are completely blown out
- 19:00Speaker 3: and like you can't see anything outside because it's all
- 19:02Speaker 3: studio and they wanted to be like super like all
- 19:06Speaker 3: the same all the time but angela comes up to
- 19:09Speaker 3: nika and she's like oh thank god dude.
- 19:12Speaker 2: She's got such mama energy oh it's great yeah it's
- 19:14Speaker 2: like Did you like Nikola Tesla?
- 19:18Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, dude, it's so Nikola Tesla. None of the
- 19:22Speaker 3: others can see me. I can see you.
- 19:26Speaker 2: I am mama. She's very, none of the others can
- 19:29Speaker 2: see me. But then we're like, we can see.
- 19:31Speaker 3: Don't be afraid. Oh! i'm not afraid good yeah it's
- 19:36Speaker 3: like good yeah.
- 19:37Speaker 2: Yeah it's very mama uh and and then multiple matt
- 19:41Speaker 2: kisses her he we get multiple personality disorder dude that was.
- 19:46Speaker 3: So outrageous he jumps into frame from the bottom of
- 19:50Speaker 3: the frame and kisses Angela on the neck or in
- 19:53Speaker 3: the head. It's very strange.
- 19:55Speaker 2: I've met people with this associative identity disorder. I know
- 19:58Speaker 2: like how it functions. Um, just movies that try and
- 20:03Speaker 2: like try the tooth with it without really understanding it.
- 20:06Speaker 2: It's just kind of feels like it's like, you know,
- 20:08Speaker 2: it's what, Like, sure, it's like a horror trope, right? Like,
- 20:13Speaker 2: to use multiple personalities, just like it is to use, like,
- 20:16Speaker 2: a variety of other things. But, yeah, like, it just
- 20:19Speaker 2: feels like in 2017, I'm like, I don't know, multiple personalities?
- 20:24Speaker 2: It's like, it just, like, none of the, like, the
- 20:27Speaker 2: way the mental health stuff is dealt with feels realistic.
- 20:30Speaker 2: I understand that Chucky movies have always done this of, like, just, yeah, yeah,
- 20:34Speaker 2: this is the reality we're in. And they've always treated
- 20:36Speaker 2: institutions like this. But, like, they've never dwelled on the
- 20:39Speaker 2: institutionalization part. And this time, we're just there. So, like,
- 20:45Speaker 2: I don't know. Like you said, we just see that there's, like,
- 20:48Speaker 2: two hospital people. It just feels budget. That's what it is.
- 20:51Speaker 2: It feels like... And the other one didn't?
- 20:53Speaker 3: No.
- 20:55Speaker 2: Like, dude, like, think about part one of Chucky.
- 20:58Speaker 3: No, but I'm talking about, like, Curse of Chucky.
- 21:02Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, that one did, too.
- 21:03Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 21:04Speaker 2: But it worked with its budget. In constraints, because it
- 21:07Speaker 2: was in one house. It was, you know.
- 21:10Speaker 3: I think it works better in this. Really? Yeah, I
- 21:13Speaker 3: think the story moves better. It's like, it gives an
- 21:17Speaker 3: arc to everything that's just like... Ah, you're right.
- 21:19Speaker 2: I got into a loop talking about multiple Matt. I just, like,
- 21:22Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know, are you... who are you
- 21:24Speaker 2: right now are you uh billionaire mark.
- 21:27Speaker 3: Zuckerberg oh that was so weird that was so weird
- 21:30Speaker 3: it was funny though then his acting was.
- 21:32Speaker 2: Very brent spiner acting like he was excited to be
- 21:35Speaker 2: different characters.
- 21:36Speaker 3: Dude such brent spiner acting and he's like now the
- 21:40Speaker 3: silly one yeah totally and then they bang and i'm
- 21:42Speaker 3: like all right okay cool i mean this.
- 21:44Speaker 2: Is cool yeah yeah like the way he's like banger
- 21:47Speaker 2: and they're showing it from like a like a stairwell
- 21:50Speaker 2: shot yeah I actually really love all of the, like,
- 21:54Speaker 2: weird perspective stuff in Chucky movies. I feel like they
- 21:58Speaker 2: use angles in such an interesting way.
- 22:00Speaker 3: Well, speaking of perspective stuff, Madeline and Claire are introduced
- 22:05Speaker 3: in the next scene where they're doing their Dream Warriors
- 22:10Speaker 3: sharing moment of introducing everybody and the new character. Ah, dude. And... Like,
- 22:16Speaker 3: the idea that Claire is like, what the fuck did
- 22:21Speaker 3: this lady do? She's fucking crazy. She murdered five people.
- 22:25Speaker 2: I really love this character. She's got such great energy. Like,
- 22:30Speaker 2: I think, like, she was just, you know, she wasn't
- 22:33Speaker 2: supposed to be there. Somebody misunderstood her and, like, you know.
- 22:36Speaker 3: And then multiple Matt is like, you burned your house down.
- 22:40Speaker 3: And she's like, I didn't kill anybody. Yeah.
- 22:45Speaker 2: I mean, that's true, dude. But this other woman did
- 22:47Speaker 2: kill someone, dude. We find out later. Her own child.
- 22:50Speaker 3: Her own child.
- 22:51Speaker 2: Which... Which we'll get to. Because the, like, surrogate parent
- 22:56Speaker 2: stuff in this was, like, really, like, a tragic storyline, dude.
- 23:00Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
- 23:01Speaker 2: It is.
- 23:02Speaker 3: And then Angela lifts up gently from the seat and
- 23:05Speaker 3: is like, um.
- 23:11Speaker 3: Because Nika is like, I hope she's doing okay to
- 23:15Speaker 3: the woman who killed her kid for Madeline. And Angela
- 23:20Speaker 3: is like, she's not okay. She's doing badly. And Nika's like,
- 23:27Speaker 3: who told you that? Chucky told me. Incepted, took something
- 23:33Speaker 3: and then made it her own. He called me on
- 23:37Speaker 3: the phone. I love Chucky still doing the calling people
- 23:40Speaker 3: on the phone, being like, give me some information. I....
- 23:47Speaker 2: Chucky's voice was so weird in this one. He felt
- 23:51Speaker 2: like he was doing this a lot.
- 23:54Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 23:54Speaker 2: He was doing a Mark Hamill, which is why I
- 23:58Speaker 2: think they eventually cast Mark Hamill.
- 24:01Speaker 3: Well, yeah, Mark Hamill does good. He was a good choice.
- 24:04Speaker 3: I was excited for him to do it.
- 24:05Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm excited to do Mark Hamill. Dude,
- 24:07Speaker 2: I'm so excited for Chucky's face in the next movie. Yeah.
- 24:11Speaker 3: It's not Mike Powers' face, that's for sure. It's a
- 24:14Speaker 3: weird new face, dude.
- 24:17Speaker 2: Um, but yeah, so.
- 24:20Speaker 3: So yeah, basically they, they get into each other's faces
- 24:26Speaker 3: and they confront each other.
- 24:27Speaker 2: But I like, I like how, I like how in
- 24:29Speaker 2: this scene, um, there's this thing about like, this is
- 24:34Speaker 2: the scene where she does incept them kind of with Chucky,
- 24:37Speaker 2: like her mere presence and starting to talk about Chucky
- 24:41Speaker 2: is getting everyone talking about Chucky, but Chucky is, starting
- 24:45Speaker 2: to do things just by virtue of her being in
- 24:47Speaker 2: minimum security. Right.
- 24:48Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 24:48Speaker 2: He's been waiting for this moment because, because, because we
- 24:52Speaker 2: don't know yet, dude, we don't know about all the
- 24:54Speaker 2: different Chucky's.
- 24:55Speaker 3: Well, then we're introduced to one variant where, uh, where Dr.
- 25:07Speaker 3: Foley brings out a Chucky and, Oh, well, can I
- 25:10Speaker 3: say first before you mentioned that, um, because I do
- 25:13Speaker 3: love that. Um, but I just want to say, I
- 25:16Speaker 3: do think that they really build up a nice relationship
- 25:19Speaker 3: between Angela and Madeline. Yeah.
- 25:22Speaker 2: I think like they showed that they really care about
- 25:25Speaker 2: each other in like a small scenes like this, like where,
- 25:27Speaker 2: how she's like comforting her and stuff. I just wanted
- 25:30Speaker 2: to comment on that, but, um, Oh no, shit. I'm
- 25:34Speaker 2: too far.
- 25:36Speaker 3: That's way too far. Um, Yeah, and he brings it out,
- 25:40Speaker 3: and this is kind of what I appreciated a lot
- 25:43Speaker 3: about the writing in this one versus the last one,
- 25:46Speaker 3: is that when he brings out the Chucky, which is
- 25:49Speaker 3: a terrible idea... it's such a terrible terrible but he
- 25:54Speaker 3: is a piece of shit so.
- 25:56Speaker 2: He's a piece of shit and he's an opportunist exactly
- 25:59Speaker 2: he mentions gleefully it which might also actually be a
- 26:02Speaker 2: silberman reference dude but he mentions gleefully like this is
- 26:05Speaker 2: gonna go either way i write this it's gonna go.
- 26:08Speaker 3: Great yeah oh totally yeah it's definitely so dr silberman
- 26:12Speaker 3: um Chucky is brought out and he's like, hi, hi,
- 26:16Speaker 3: I'm Chucky. Want to play? It's not, hi, I'm Chucky.
- 26:19Speaker 3: Want to play? Totally, dude. It's, hi, I'm Chucky. Want
- 26:22Speaker 3: to play?
- 26:23Speaker 2: Sludge pitch adjustment Chucky.
- 26:25Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 26:25Speaker 2: Pitch adjustment Chucky. Yeah.
- 26:27Speaker 3: And then he's like, you know, are you saying that
- 26:31Speaker 3: this is a coincidence? He's like, not at all. I
- 26:33Speaker 3: paid for a Chucky. They made 80 different variants.
- 26:36Speaker 2: It was 2% chance.
- 26:38Speaker 3: 2% chance, Chucky.
- 26:39Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
- 26:40Speaker 3: And then he bought it at Hot Topic, dude.
- 26:42Speaker 2: He did buy it at Hot Topic. He got, he
- 26:45Speaker 2: paid extra for a Chucky.
- 26:48Speaker 3: And then Madeline comes up and she's like, he's like,
- 26:51Speaker 3: what is it, Madeline? And she's like, he's my baby.
- 26:54Speaker 3: And she takes the Chucky and, like, cobbles it.
- 26:57Speaker 2: This is also very Mama Energy.
- 26:59Speaker 3: It is very Mama Energy.
- 27:00Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 27:01Speaker 3: 100%.
- 27:01Speaker 2: Catatonic, like, oh, no.
- 27:05Speaker 3: Deadeye had a terrible childhood. Tried to make our childhood better.
- 27:09Speaker 3: Ruined our childhood. Then tried to make us have kids
- 27:13Speaker 3: to ruin a third generation's childhood. Yeah.
- 27:20Speaker 2: I mean, her reaction to seeing the junkie is also like... Like...
- 27:24Speaker 2: Understandably like... Jesus Christ.
- 27:27Speaker 3: Yeah. And it's like... It's not... It wasn't a good idea. No.
- 27:37Speaker 2: It was a terrible idea.
- 27:37Speaker 3: It was a terrible idea. They all go to lunch
- 27:40Speaker 3: after this. They take five. And they go to lunch.
- 27:45Speaker 2: And then.
- 27:47Speaker 3: Claire comes up to Madeline and is like, your baby
- 27:49Speaker 3: is dead, okay? You know that. And then.
- 27:56Speaker 2: I love her. I love... Yeah, oh yeah, she's great.
- 27:58Speaker 3: She's great. And then she... But she takes... She rips
- 28:02Speaker 3: the Chucky away from her. Yeah. And then is like,
- 28:08Speaker 3: give him back. That's an interesting choice of pronouns. Yeah.
- 28:16Speaker 2: I mean, I think she's the most woke, dude.
- 28:21Speaker 3: That one? Yeah. Yeah, probably. Yeah.
- 28:24Speaker 2: Well, it's not Fiona. Nika.
- 28:28Speaker 3: No, definitely not.
- 28:36Speaker 2: Well, so Nika helps her get the Chucky back.
- 28:42Speaker 3: Yeah, she helps Madeline get her Chucky back. And, you know,
- 28:46Speaker 3: multiple Matt is like, you know, why are you trying
- 28:50Speaker 3: to take away her happiness? And it's like there is
- 28:53Speaker 3: something interesting about delusion in this in terms of, oh, yeah,
- 29:01Speaker 3: like there is really important things that you do have
- 29:04Speaker 3: to kind of know as reality. to be safe, but
- 29:10Speaker 3: also there are these spaces that are okay to have
- 29:13Speaker 3: a reality that's just yours, that you can be a
- 29:17Speaker 3: different kind of safe in. And that balance is really
- 29:21Speaker 3: interesting to me in this entire movie, because there are...
- 29:26Speaker 3: The idea of multiple Chuckies is cool to me.
- 29:32Speaker 2: It is.
- 29:34Speaker 3: it like because the level of magic that exists now
- 29:42Speaker 3: it makes sense to be like oh yeah like yeah
- 29:49Speaker 3: oh in the next scene we get introduced to you
- 29:52Speaker 3: finish your thought oh uh yeah it just it feels
- 29:54Speaker 3: like which part of the thought it doesn't matter let's
- 29:58Speaker 3: keep going okay.
- 29:59Speaker 2: Um Yeah, dude, I love this next scene with Jennifer Tilly. Like,
- 30:04Speaker 2: she's so amazing, and everyone's like, did anyone ever tell
- 30:07Speaker 2: you you look exactly like Jennifer Tilly?
- 30:09Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. I hear that all the time. I've been practicing.
- 30:14Speaker 3: She's so good, dude.
- 30:15Speaker 4: It's a little Bobby Hill, but... Thanks, dude. I'll take
- 30:22Speaker 4: that as a compliment. yeah, you're Alice's guardian.
- 30:27Speaker 3: Yeah. She just, you know, she's been living with us.
- 30:29Speaker 3: Like she's kind of like, I love, you don't seem
- 30:33Speaker 3: very motherly.
- 30:34Speaker 2: Jennifer Tilly, like, um, seeming like she just showed up
- 30:38Speaker 2: and she doesn't really care about anything that's going on is, is,
- 30:43Speaker 2: is really, I love that energy because like, it's like,
- 30:46Speaker 2: it's almost like she's better than everything that she's doing
- 30:49Speaker 2: at the moment. And she's just like, kind of like
- 30:52Speaker 2: existing in that space. Like it's, Every time we see her,
- 30:57Speaker 2: it's a reminder that, like, the movie does have, like,
- 31:00Speaker 2: an internal self-awareness.
- 31:02Speaker 3: Yeah, 100%.
- 31:03Speaker 2: And I think it's really, I think her sort of, like,
- 31:07Speaker 2: permeating them throughout this series is, like, really, like, I
- 31:12Speaker 2: don't know, strangely iconic.
- 31:14Speaker 3: She's kind of like a narrative arc anchor through the
- 31:20Speaker 3: four movies where it's like, oh, yeah, this is kind of,
- 31:23Speaker 3: crypto main character status uh and then she reveals that
- 31:27Speaker 3: alice is dead she's just like she does it so
- 31:31Speaker 3: casually because she's like oh you don't seem dangerous and
- 31:36Speaker 3: i thought you'd be taller well you don't seem very
- 31:39Speaker 3: motherly as nika responds uh and then it's so disturbingly
- 31:46Speaker 3: blunt how she's just kind of like how is alice
- 31:50Speaker 3: she's dead miss pierce I feel.
- 31:53Speaker 2: Like very shocked.
- 31:54Speaker 3: Dude.
- 31:54Speaker 2: Does that shock you?
- 31:56Speaker 3: Nika's face, if you just tap once a couple of
- 31:59Speaker 3: frames back, like, oh, there. Nika's face is so, like,
- 32:06Speaker 3: the acting. Also, the writing feels a lot better in
- 32:10Speaker 3: this movie.
- 32:11Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 32:11Speaker 3: It's a lot better in this one than the last one.
- 32:13Speaker 2: Than yours?
- 32:14Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 32:16Speaker 2: You mean, like, the dialogue? Dialogue, yeah.
- 32:19Speaker 3: The way it's written, the structure of the movie, it
- 32:21Speaker 3: just feels overall written better.
- 32:23Speaker 2: I think it's just functioning again in, in Chucky reality, right? The,
- 32:28Speaker 2: like the, the last one, like is the only one
- 32:31Speaker 2: that kind of like deviates from like mainstream Chucky reality. Yeah.
- 32:38Speaker 3: Yeah, totally.
- 32:39Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. Like, because Chucky, I
- 32:43Speaker 2: do associate it more with like wacky adventures, Chuck, you know,
- 32:46Speaker 2: you know.
- 32:46Speaker 3: Like, yeah, totally.
- 32:48Speaker 2: Um, Jennifer Tilly is so good.
- 32:50Speaker 3: Yeah. When, when, uh, what's his name? Dr. Foley is like,
- 32:54Speaker 3: I wish you would have told me before Miss Valentine. Uh,
- 32:58Speaker 3: and she, she's like, she's like, Oh, I'm sorry. And
- 33:03Speaker 3: then pulls out some tissue to pretend to cry. And
- 33:07Speaker 3: it's like.
- 33:10Speaker 2: And tells Nika that, that fucking Alice died of a
- 33:15Speaker 2: broken heart.
- 33:16Speaker 3: Yeah. So bizarre.
- 33:17Speaker 2: Very like, heartbreak he just like wants to crush this
- 33:20Speaker 2: person and then she's like and then she's like and
- 33:23Speaker 2: she brings a chucky.
- 33:24Speaker 3: In yeah she brings a good guy chucky and is
- 33:27Speaker 3: like oh alice loved this one and it's like what
- 33:32Speaker 3: why wouldn't you be immediately suspicious But it's Chucky reality
- 33:39Speaker 3: and it's fine. And she throws it back to Dr. Foley.
- 33:43Speaker 3: And Dr. Foley, the thing that I love about Dr.
- 33:45Speaker 3: Foley is how much of a piece of shit he
- 33:47Speaker 3: plays it, but also is like doing the right things
- 33:52Speaker 3: of being like, I wish you would have told me,
- 33:54Speaker 3: Miss Valentine. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 33:56Speaker 2: Because it is, like, yeah, he does react in defense
- 34:00Speaker 2: of his patient.
- 34:02Speaker 3: Yeah, totally. And then this scene, when they're walking down
- 34:05Speaker 3: the hallway with the two Chuckies, I thought this was cool, dude. Like,
- 34:09Speaker 3: this is, like, iconic stuff. It felt better to me
- 34:14Speaker 3: than the last one. It's, like, it's just well-directed. There's
- 34:17Speaker 3: a vision to this one that I felt like was
- 34:19Speaker 3: missing in the last one. Interesting, dude.
- 34:22Speaker 2: Well, it's an interesting reaction, because, like, I watched this
- 34:26Speaker 2: movie twice, and the first time, I'm actually glad we
- 34:29Speaker 2: didn't record the episode when we were supposed to, because, like,
- 34:32Speaker 2: I would have been way more, like, on a hate
- 34:35Speaker 2: train about this movie. Really? At that time, yeah. Yeah, like,
- 34:39Speaker 2: because I was, like, I was almost, like, okay. This
- 34:42Speaker 2: is dumb and there's no good ideas. But that's what
- 34:46Speaker 2: I thought, like, in relation to the last movie.
- 34:50Speaker 3: Which I thought was dumb and had no ideas. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 34:53Speaker 2: Which, it's interesting that we had, like, the same reaction.
- 34:57Speaker 2: Because I've softened to this upon the second watch. I
- 35:00Speaker 2: was like, no, it's like a really interesting, cool, big swing.
- 35:04Speaker 2: And I'm like, appreciate just that alone.
- 35:07Speaker 3: Like, the thing is.
- 35:09Speaker 2: I always say that I want movies to do things
- 35:11Speaker 2: like this, and then when they do, I'm like....
- 35:15Speaker 3: Well, like, I mean, our initial reaction, I'm assuming, to
- 35:18Speaker 3: the first scene where mushed-head Chucky gets, like, a full, like,
- 35:24Speaker 3: scene with Andy is, like, such an incredible choice that
- 35:28Speaker 3: I wish was the whole movie.
- 35:29Speaker 2: Dude, like... When I saw Andy, I was like, is
- 35:32Speaker 2: this movie going to just be about Andy?
- 35:35Speaker 3: That would be amazing. It makes me want to watch
- 35:37Speaker 3: the show.
- 35:38Speaker 2: I want to watch the show. I want to do
- 35:40Speaker 2: the show. You want to do an episode? Yeah, I
- 35:43Speaker 2: want to do an episode for each season. What, actually?
- 35:47Speaker 3: For each season. So there's three episodes for the whole season. Okay.
- 35:53Speaker 2: All right.
- 35:53Speaker 3: I mean... Because you want to do one episode for
- 35:55Speaker 3: three seasons?
- 35:56Speaker 2: No, it's crazy.
- 35:56Speaker 3: It's going to be hard. That would be way too hard.
- 35:59Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're right.
- 36:00Speaker 3: Because of all the different Chuckies. Speaking of all the
- 36:03Speaker 3: different Chuckies.
- 36:04Speaker 2: Something that I have to just say, dude, that I'm
- 36:06Speaker 2: sad is that we don't get Glenglenda in these movies.
- 36:09Speaker 3: I'm kind of just like.
- 36:11Speaker 2: Oh, no. Like, that's the only thing. Like, you bring
- 36:14Speaker 2: something like this, like, a huge, like, thing. You name
- 36:17Speaker 2: a movie Seed of Chuck. You make it about the child.
- 36:20Speaker 2: And then you don't ever have the kid show up again.
- 36:22Speaker 2: I know the kid is in the show.
- 36:27Speaker 3: I don't know that. You ruined that for me. I
- 36:30Speaker 3: don't know anything about the show. You don't know that? No.
- 36:32Speaker 2: Oh, I'm so sorry, dude.
- 36:33Speaker 3: No, it's okay. I assumed it was something like that.
- 36:36Speaker 3: It's even cooler, dude. I don't even want to tell you.
- 36:42Speaker 3: It was pretty hugely disappointing for me, too.
- 36:44Speaker 2: I have to just shout out that in every movie,
- 36:47Speaker 2: there's been a POV Chucky hand shot of him doing
- 36:50Speaker 2: a thing. Which is like, it is a visual that
- 36:54Speaker 2: always keeps on giving. It looks good. it gives you
- 36:58Speaker 2: that like Chucky perspective that you want.
- 37:01Speaker 3: But, but Chucky gets put into the, to Foley's office
- 37:04Speaker 3: where he does a little like eye turn. He's, he's
- 37:07Speaker 3: turned eyes and it's, it's very disorienting because you're like, wait,
- 37:11Speaker 3: Chucky's already mush face in, in the last one. How
- 37:15Speaker 3: are they going to make this work? There's three Chucky's so,
- 37:19Speaker 3: so far. And I'm like, ah, like, how are they
- 37:21Speaker 3: going to make this work?
- 37:23Speaker 2: Um, Can I just say that, you know, something I've
- 37:27Speaker 2: been sad about is that there hasn't been a Serbian
- 37:30Speaker 2: guy in the last movies, because like for a lot
- 37:34Speaker 2: of them, there was a Serbian guy.
- 37:36Speaker 3: It seems like there's a lot of Mexican-coded guys, because
- 37:40Speaker 3: the priest was in the last one, Carlos is in
- 37:43Speaker 3: this one.
- 37:43Speaker 2: Okay, but Carlos looks exactly like my friend Jexy, dude.
- 37:49Speaker 3: Oh my god, he does! Doesn't he look like you
- 37:51Speaker 3: know Jexy? Yes, he does!
- 37:53Speaker 2: I kept thinking, when he was getting killed, I.
- 37:58Speaker 3: Was like, I don't know Jexy. Yeah, he does. It
- 38:02Speaker 3: is a very thin guy, dark Serbian guy look. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 100%.
- 38:08Speaker 3: This is my favorite scene, the one coming up, where... uh.
- 38:11Speaker 2: Chucky's cherubic face chucky's.
- 38:15Speaker 3: Dude i love the face it looks like.
- 38:19Speaker 2: Those babies that mama has you know like those like
- 38:22Speaker 2: weird photorealistic yeah totally like the dolls and okay of
- 38:27Speaker 2: course this crazy one he's like hey i talked to
- 38:29Speaker 2: you on.
- 38:30Speaker 3: The phone hey i thought yeah where's nika Last door
- 38:35Speaker 3: on the right. Last house on the left, obviously.
- 38:36Speaker 2: He doesn't sound like that anymore. It's not quite the
- 38:41Speaker 2: way you're doing it. It's not quite right the way
- 38:44Speaker 2: you're doing it.
- 38:44Speaker 3: Let me see.
- 38:46Speaker 2: What?
- 38:47Speaker 3: What? I'm not going.
- 38:48Speaker 2: To hurt you. He's sillier, Chucky.
- 38:50Speaker 3: You fucking with me? You fucking with me?
- 38:53Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very Mark Hamill, Chucky. I'm not.
- 38:56Speaker 3: Tell you the truth, I'm happy to have the company.
- 38:58Speaker 3: Even if you aren't real. Okay. Let me explain something. Okay,
- 39:03Speaker 3: let me explain something to you. I am a vintage,
- 39:06Speaker 3: mass-marketed children's toy from the 80s. Standing right in front
- 39:13Speaker 3: of you. Holding a very sharp scalpel. No, you're not. Yes,
- 39:19Speaker 3: I am. I'm a schizophrenic. I see things. Oh, you're
- 39:25Speaker 3: the lady I talked to on the you're the crazy bitch.
- 39:27Speaker 2: On the phone is that what he says.
- 39:29Speaker 3: Yeah and sometimes i hear things too oh man and
- 39:33Speaker 3: then he's like you know what lady i'm gonna kill
- 39:36Speaker 3: you you're next and then he walks.
- 39:39Speaker 2: Away crazy, dude. It's terrifying.
- 39:42Speaker 3: Fucking cuckoo's nest.
- 39:44Speaker 2: Do you love the reference, dude?
- 39:45Speaker 3: Yeah, of course. It's all references now.
- 39:47Speaker 2: Because he was in one floor of the cuckoo's nest.
- 39:49Speaker 2: Of course, yeah.
- 39:51Speaker 3: And then, I... Loved this scene because of the fact
- 39:55Speaker 3: that Chucky comes into Nika's room after threatening Angela. And
- 40:00Speaker 3: then he sees the post of one of the wheelchair
- 40:03Speaker 3: posts torn off. And Nika has slid her own wrists.
- 40:08Speaker 3: And there's like a pool of blood. It's very Freddy, dude.
- 40:11Speaker 3: Very Freddy. Yeah, totally. That's what I liked about it.
- 40:14Speaker 3: Me too, me too. And he's sad. He's sad and
- 40:17Speaker 3: he's mad about it. And he fixes her for some reason.
- 40:21Speaker 2: He stitches her together, yeah. Because he's not so fast.
- 40:26Speaker 3: Yeah, and he writes it in the blood, which is great.
- 40:29Speaker 3: Because then.
- 40:30Speaker 2: He takes the wire? It's implied that it's one of
- 40:35Speaker 2: the wires from the wheel of the wheelchair that was
- 40:39Speaker 2: taken in order to be used as a knife or
- 40:42Speaker 2: stabbing weapon.
- 40:43Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. And what he does... Well, we'll get to
- 40:48Speaker 3: it in the next scene. But Nika wakes up, and
- 40:51Speaker 3: Carlos comes in, and he's like... He's like, Milenze. Yeah, exactly.
- 40:55Speaker 2: Desi Milenze.
- 40:56Speaker 3: Desi Milenze. Desi Nika. And he.
- 41:02Speaker 3: Is like, oh, do you need anything? Do you need water?
- 41:05Speaker 3: And she's like, can I have some privacy, please? After
- 41:07Speaker 3: she throws the pillow onto the blood that has Chucky's
- 41:12Speaker 3: blood starts.
- 41:12Speaker 2: But somebody's going to have to wash that blood eventually.
- 41:15Speaker 3: Yeah, totally. It doesn't make sense. Did you write not.
- 41:17Speaker 2: So fast in blood on the ground? Did you get period?
- 41:21Speaker 2: Near where you tried to kill your... Did you sew
- 41:23Speaker 2: your own arm back?
- 41:24Speaker 3: Yeah, sew your own. And then we see that Angela
- 41:28Speaker 3: has been put out In the way that Nico was
- 41:33Speaker 3: as well. And Chucky is also written, Chucky did it
- 41:37Speaker 3: in her blood, which I thought, this is what I
- 41:39Speaker 3: mean by like writing nuances.
- 41:40Speaker 2: Written in as your wife did.
- 41:45Speaker 3: Some events lead to other events happening in ways that
- 41:49Speaker 3: feel satisfying in a storytelling way. Totally.
- 41:54Speaker 2: And also in ways that feel familiar to this series.
- 41:57Speaker 2: More to the series.
- 41:58Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
- 41:59Speaker 2: Because like so much is now part of the Chuckyverse, right?
- 42:03Speaker 2: And I do think that these last movies do really
- 42:07Speaker 2: honor all of the material for better or worse. Sometimes
- 42:10Speaker 2: I think it's for worse.
- 42:14Speaker 3: Yeah, 100%. And then we get the next scene where
- 42:18Speaker 3: Andy is explaining to Dr. Foley how the Chucky doll is.
- 42:26Speaker 2: No, no, he's watching a video of explaining to Dr.
- 42:29Speaker 2: Foley that Chucky's alive. He's like, just watch this.
- 42:35Speaker 3: Yeah, just... Well, that's very impressive. That's very impressive. It
- 42:42Speaker 3: was really funny.
- 42:43Speaker 2: He's like, I'm sure it'll be great in a movie.
- 42:47Speaker 2: And Chucky's like, let's watch it again. He's like, happy
- 42:53Speaker 2: about it, dude.
- 42:55Speaker 3: I love this part. That one just never gets old.
- 42:58Speaker 3: Keep your fucking mouth shut. Honestly, this dynamic... You think
- 43:01Speaker 3: it's funny?
- 43:02Speaker 2: Yeah. It's a real, like, what is it, like, they're
- 43:05Speaker 2: in half bed, it's all bed.
- 43:08Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 43:10Speaker 2: It's like Waldorf and fucking, what's his name, and Gromit, dude.
- 43:13Speaker 3: Yeah. Maybe you belong in the booby hatch with Nika.
- 43:21Speaker 3: Maybe all of this really just is in your head.
- 43:24Speaker 2: I love, like, how fucking crusted Chucky is.
- 43:26Speaker 3: Yeah, it's great.
- 43:27Speaker 2: It's my favorite Chucky. The original head Chucky is my
- 43:31Speaker 2: favorite Chucky.
- 43:31Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, absolutely. He's definitely meant to be the coolest
- 43:34Speaker 3: and best one. He's my favorite Chucky. Yeah. And also,
- 43:38Speaker 3: it nicely converges letting you know that this is the
- 43:42Speaker 3: correct timeline. Yes. You know what I mean? It all, like,
- 43:45Speaker 3: leads back to, oh, no, this isn't the past. This
- 43:47Speaker 3: isn't the future. This is all happening... Within each other.
- 43:51Speaker 3: And that's cool. I like that. I do, too.
- 43:54Speaker 2: They have a next group session, dude.
- 43:55Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. And the next group session is where.
- 43:58Speaker 2: It's an emergency session because Angela has died.
- 44:01Speaker 3: Of course. Yeah, dude. And... Okay.
- 44:05Speaker 2: So, the thing that was, like, weird to me was here.
- 44:08Speaker 3: Of, like.
- 44:10Speaker 2: It makes sense later because we get a reveal that
- 44:14Speaker 2: the Doctor wants to be rapey. But in real life...
- 44:19Speaker 2: if they suspected that a patient had something to do
- 44:24Speaker 2: with someone's death, I don't think they'd just leave her there.
- 44:28Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, absolutely.
- 44:29Speaker 2: And I think there is a suspicion, right?
- 44:31Speaker 3: Yeah, 100%.
- 44:32Speaker 2: They talk about it in the thing, right?
- 44:35Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 44:35Speaker 2: How did this conversation unfold?
- 44:37Speaker 3: Tell me. Well, Claire is, in part, Claire being like,
- 44:43Speaker 3: Nika did it! And we get this sort of more
- 44:47Speaker 3: back lore of Claire being like, I was friends with Angela!
- 44:51Speaker 3: I wiped her ass! And it's like, aren't the nurses
- 44:54Speaker 3: supposed to be doing that?
- 44:55Speaker 2: Well, I feel like patients probably help each other.
- 44:59Speaker 3: Yeah, probably. I took care of that woman for the
- 45:01Speaker 3: past five years. And they did do a good job
- 45:04Speaker 3: at setting it up in the earlier scene because they
- 45:06Speaker 3: were like buddy-buddy.
- 45:07Speaker 2: 100%.
- 45:07Speaker 3: But If she was thinking of killing herself, I would
- 45:13Speaker 3: have known. That's what she says.
- 45:14Speaker 2: I don't know if I like Magic Matt's fucking acting, dude.
- 45:18Speaker 2: I feel like it's a little Brent Spiner.
- 45:19Speaker 3: It's so Brent Spiner, dude.
- 45:21Speaker 2: And I feel like when he's like... When he's like...
- 45:23Speaker 2: When he's Chucky.
- 45:24Speaker 3: You know what it is? It's... He bothers me in
- 45:28Speaker 3: the same way the priest bothered me in season two
- 45:31Speaker 3: of Fleabag. That guy? I like that actor a lot.
- 45:37Speaker 3: I think he's a really good actor. It's written in
- 45:40Speaker 3: a way that feels like he's performing what's written and
- 45:46Speaker 3: having to be a little bit, I need to pretend
- 45:48Speaker 3: to be different people, is hard. Occam's Razor. The simplest
- 45:55Speaker 3: explanation is usually the right one. It's Chucky. It feels like, yeah,
- 46:00Speaker 3: Chucky did it.
- 46:02Speaker 2: Everybody thinks Chucky did it now. Well, he does. He's
- 46:05Speaker 2: been pilled by her. And they bring another Chucky.
- 46:10Speaker 3: Yeah, Madeline walks in with another Chucky, and then both
- 46:13Speaker 3: of the Chuckies are like, Hi, I'm Chucky. Want to play? Hi,
- 46:18Speaker 3: I'm Chucky. Want to play?
- 46:19Speaker 2: You're doing the very consistent, slightly lower voice.
- 46:23Speaker 3: Register.
- 46:25Speaker 2: Adjusted register. Yeah, I think it's really cool, dude. I think,
- 46:31Speaker 2: you know, She wants him to prove that Chucky's not real.
- 46:38Speaker 3: Before that, actually, it's that we find out... Who brought
- 46:43Speaker 3: that other Chucky? Miss Valentine? Tiffany Valentine? The woman who's
- 46:48Speaker 3: married to Charles Lee Ray? And it's like... and then
- 46:52Speaker 3: who's charles lee ray he was a serial killer from
- 46:55Speaker 3: the 80s it's like all right no one no one
- 46:58Speaker 3: who's watching this is coming in for the first time.
- 47:02Speaker 2: Like you really don't need to reintroduce um but yeah
- 47:08Speaker 2: foley does the right thing and he's like he fucking
- 47:12Speaker 2: lights the fucking chunky hand on fire and it melts
- 47:15Speaker 2: into and like the way they're doing a close-up face
- 47:19Speaker 2: of just the, like, inanimate doll, but you know that
- 47:22Speaker 2: it hurts.
- 47:23Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 47:23Speaker 2: I know this hurts.
- 47:25Speaker 3: It's very Call to John. Dude, they had a Call
- 47:27Speaker 3: to John in this, too, where, like, what's-his-name gets stabbed
- 47:33Speaker 3: in the magic mic, magic mat, triple face mat, gets
- 47:39Speaker 3: stabbed in the eye, and it feels very Terminator. Oh,
- 47:42Speaker 3: totally Terminator.
- 47:43Speaker 2: It feels very... He also gets screw-you-benied.
- 47:45Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. I know this hurts.
- 47:52Speaker 2: Oh, man. All of the, like, tense close-ups, the Chucky's
- 47:57Speaker 2: glassy look, dude. And the fingers. No, keep going. She
- 48:02Speaker 2: wants him to keep going.
- 48:03Speaker 3: And the fingers get long, dude. And then as he moves,
- 48:07Speaker 3: the fingers also get, like, warpy and gooey. And then,
- 48:12Speaker 3: you know, Nikos obviously makes the point. They might have switched!
- 48:17Speaker 3: i think that's my favorite from from seat of chuggies
- 48:29Speaker 3: just the doll the combination of the doll the voice and.
- 48:32Speaker 2: The movements it's amazing dude oh.
- 48:36Speaker 3: And then brent spiner is now mark zuckerberg no um.
- 48:45Speaker 2: What was the thing we were watching recently where it's, like,
- 48:48Speaker 2: a reel where someone's talking about how, like, they played
- 48:52Speaker 2: a certain character in, like, three different ways? Like, as
- 48:54Speaker 2: Marty McFly, as, like... Oh, yeah. It was something Kay
- 49:02Speaker 2: sent us. I'm forgetting exactly what that was.
- 49:05Speaker 3: It's Zach Krieger, I think, doing an interview being, like,
- 49:10Speaker 3: be Marty McFly or... It was like using characters as
- 49:15Speaker 3: a shorthand to like what kind of energy you're bringing
- 49:18Speaker 3: to a character, which is fascinating. but it doesn't matter
- 49:23Speaker 3: Madeline gets let out to say goodbye to Angela and
- 49:32Speaker 3: Triple Matt doesn't get to go outside because his privileges
- 49:35Speaker 3: were revoked.
- 49:36Speaker 2: Yeah but Nika decides that she's going to create a diversion.
- 49:41Speaker 3: Bart, stop creating a diversion and get out of here.
- 49:44Speaker 3: And he does get out of here in order to
- 49:47Speaker 3: see if the other doll was actually another Chucky. And then,
- 49:53Speaker 3: this is what I like too, Claire takes the doll
- 49:57Speaker 3: from Foley's office and goes to throw it out into
- 50:01Speaker 3: the garbage. And she gets bitten by And she's like, Dr. Foley,
- 50:06Speaker 3: it's true.
- 50:06Speaker 2: I love how immediately she's just like, it's true.
- 50:11Speaker 3: And Dr. Foley immediately being like, what did you do
- 50:13Speaker 3: to yourself? And the fact that mass panic events can
- 50:20Speaker 3: happen like this, where it's like, oh no, this thing
- 50:22Speaker 3: is happening.
- 50:25Speaker 2: Dude, I love this next scene where Nika's watching this
- 50:29Speaker 2: horrifying scene play out where Triple Matt is running down
- 50:33Speaker 2: through the snow and he's going towards Madeline and she's
- 50:37Speaker 2: near an open grave which.
- 50:39Speaker 3: Is also really weird like they're burying the people who
- 50:43Speaker 3: were in the like wild choices would never happen but.
- 50:48Speaker 2: We see that Chucky whispers something to Madeline we don't
- 50:52Speaker 2: see his face move she just nears her ear to
- 50:55Speaker 2: Chucky and then and Nika's watching all of this play
- 50:58Speaker 2: out in horror as Chucky then turns to her and
- 51:01Speaker 2: gives her the finger and like snarls his face yeah
- 51:05Speaker 2: And she's like, Maddie, Madeline, screaming, and Madeline can't hear her, dude.
- 51:11Speaker 2: And then, what happens, dude? She fucking kicks over Triple
- 51:16Speaker 2: Matt into the grave with Chucky.
- 51:19Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. Which I find really interesting, because do you
- 51:24Speaker 3: think that chucky.
- 51:27Speaker 2: He had the plan to boku dembla him.
- 51:29Speaker 3: He did boku dembla him but also there's an implication
- 51:32Speaker 3: that he didn't boku dembla him or that the the
- 51:36Speaker 3: he just absorbed another personality and they be it's he's
- 51:40Speaker 3: still multiple personalities oh that's interesting because in the other
- 51:44Speaker 3: one when when the other ones are confronting him they're
- 51:47Speaker 3: like you're not real and he's like wait i am
- 51:51Speaker 3: a chucky Because at first he doesn't like being a Chucky.
- 51:55Speaker 2: Well, he like stops being a Chucky. Yeah.
- 51:58Speaker 3: Which is cool. I think that like multiple Matt just
- 52:02Speaker 3: absorbed like another personality. As Claire gets taken into, uh, get, uh,
- 52:10Speaker 3: tied up.
- 52:11Speaker 2: She gets, she gets baldered.
- 52:13Speaker 3: It's very balder.
- 52:15Speaker 2: And, and then she says something like, she says a
- 52:17Speaker 2: really weird line, like blood fuck you or something. She
- 52:21Speaker 2: says like a weird, like, I think it was like improvised. Wait,
- 52:25Speaker 2: let's see.
- 52:25Speaker 3: You blood fucking morons. Yeah. You blood fucking morons.
- 52:29Speaker 2: Which like I thought was like a really, yeah, yeah.
- 52:33Speaker 3: Balder.
- 52:34Speaker 2: And Jexy's there too. And, oh, man, all the veins
- 52:37Speaker 2: popping out of her neck. And then the contrast with
- 52:40Speaker 2: how her face looks when she's just, like, completely calm.
- 52:44Speaker 3: She's a good actress, dude. She's really good.
- 52:46Speaker 2: Do you think she's a Winnipeg actress, dude?
- 52:49Speaker 3: That I don't know, actually.
- 52:50Speaker 2: Seems like the cast local, dude. Which I think would
- 52:54Speaker 2: be cool.
- 52:55Speaker 3: I love, in the next scene, the split-screen stuff. I
- 52:59Speaker 3: love all of it.
- 53:00Speaker 2: The Spider-Man comic book?
- 53:02Speaker 3: Comic book, yeah. It's just, like, It ends with a
- 53:06Speaker 3: kind of... The screen splits apart. I love the screen
- 53:10Speaker 3: splitting apart. And then it's like, from Nika's perspective, the
- 53:13Speaker 3: Chucky doll climbing out of the... Or getting lifted out
- 53:16Speaker 3: of the grave. And then the implication is that multiple
- 53:21Speaker 3: Matt absorbed another Chucky. Yeah. And he gets pulled out
- 53:26Speaker 3: of the grave and gives like an evil face.
- 53:29Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. And they do a split screen, like, from
- 53:32Speaker 2: the half, too, of, like, a close-up of what's happening,
- 53:35Speaker 2: also a further away of what's happening.
- 53:37Speaker 3: Yeah, totally.
- 53:38Speaker 2: It's really cool, interesting filmmaking.
- 53:40Speaker 3: Well, it's interesting because it's, like, such a bizarre choice.
- 53:44Speaker 3: And then Claire is, like, still stuck. And also, Foley
- 53:48Speaker 3: makes such a weird... he makes such a weird throwaway
- 53:53Speaker 3: line where he's like, she'll be able to see and
- 53:56Speaker 3: feel everything, but she won't be able to move.
- 54:00Speaker 2: That is a weird line.
- 54:01Speaker 3: It's a crazy line.
- 54:03Speaker 2: Well, they need us to know, dude.
- 54:04Speaker 3: Yeah, totally. We need to know that Chucky's going to
- 54:07Speaker 3: kill this person in a very high stress situation.
- 54:10Speaker 2: This actor reminds me of the actor from the 90s. Dude,
- 54:13Speaker 2: look at his face. Do you know that, like here especially,
- 54:17Speaker 2: you know that guy who was in like What was it,
- 54:19Speaker 2: like Deep Blue Sea or one of those movies?
- 54:22Speaker 3: Thomas Jane?
- 54:23Speaker 2: Yes.
- 54:23Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Doesn't he look like him? I know
- 54:25Speaker 3: what you mean. Yeah.
- 54:26Speaker 2: He's got Jane forehead.
- 54:28Speaker 3: Definitely.
- 54:29Speaker 2: Definitely.
- 54:30Speaker 3: And they do this thing where there's like snow falling
- 54:33Speaker 3: and it's like a big glass... Well, because it's Winnipeg, dude. Yeah.
- 54:38Speaker 3: A big glass window on top of where Claire is.
- 54:41Speaker 2: A giant CGI skylight.
- 54:43Speaker 3: Yes, which I liked. I liked the look of it.
- 54:45Speaker 3: It was weird.
- 54:46Speaker 2: It was weird because it was like too big for
- 54:48Speaker 2: this room.
- 54:49Speaker 3: Totally.
- 54:49Speaker 2: It looked really cool. It looked kind of like how the.
- 54:57Speaker 2: Like panels of, of windows look on the like enterprise. Yeah.
- 55:02Speaker 3: A hundred percent. Yeah. Yeah. Totally.
- 55:03Speaker 2: Uh, and then Chucky running around and her like heart
- 55:07Speaker 2: rate going up was like a cool, like nice little
- 55:09Speaker 2: tense moment. Puppet Chucky, Puppet Legs Chucky.
- 55:13Speaker 3: He takes the compressed air and is like... Compressed air?
- 55:17Speaker 3: I wonder if that means what I think it means. Seriously,
- 55:21Speaker 3: I don't know. And then he shoots the compressed air
- 55:26Speaker 3: through the glass.
- 55:27Speaker 2: Cherubic face, Chucky.
- 55:28Speaker 3: It is very cherubic face. And the glass breaks... And
- 55:33Speaker 3: falls in the same way that in the fourth one,
- 55:37Speaker 3: the glass breaks from the mirror and it slashes everybody.
- 55:41Speaker 3: But it cuts her head off straight up.
- 55:44Speaker 2: Well, because it's giant panels of glass. It is a
- 55:47Speaker 2: giant glass panel that breaks into thick shards. And yeah,
- 55:54Speaker 2: her crying as she's about to die is very tragic.
- 55:58Speaker 2: And Chucky kind of looking up like this.
- 56:03Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 56:03Speaker 2: Like no shoulders, Chucky. Skinny bitch with no shoulders. Um, yeah, I, uh,
- 56:11Speaker 2: I love, I love her. Um, justice for, uh, what's,
- 56:15Speaker 2: what's her name again?
- 56:16Speaker 3: Claire.
- 56:16Speaker 2: Justice for Claire. Great character. And this like head that
- 56:21Speaker 2: they made like looks so much like her. Yeah.
- 56:24Speaker 3: It's not real. That's, that's just the CGI. Like they
- 56:27Speaker 3: put her in like a room, like, and they, they like,
- 56:31Speaker 3: Copy pasted her head off. Wow.
- 56:33Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks great.
- 56:34Speaker 3: Looks great.
- 56:35Speaker 2: Um, I, uh, love the visual also of this like
- 56:39Speaker 2: squirting blood body and like the, like snow slow motion
- 56:43Speaker 2: falling down and then cutting back to Nika's face. through this, though,
- 56:47Speaker 2: as she's, like, realizing and then screaming, no?
- 56:50Speaker 3: Yeah. And then we cut back to Andy looking at
- 56:53Speaker 3: Perez Hilton website from 2017. Well, hold on.
- 56:58Speaker 2: We'll get to that in a second, but I just
- 57:00Speaker 2: want to shout out this, like, little CGI drip of
- 57:04Speaker 2: blood that, like, side drops when she's lying on the ground.
- 57:08Speaker 2: Did you notice that?
- 57:09Speaker 3: I did notice that, yeah.
- 57:11Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of use of, like, visual, like... effects
- 57:16Speaker 2: in this like even just like this scene like it
- 57:19Speaker 2: like everything's very like treated you know like like the
- 57:23Speaker 2: colors the like yeah yeah but also i did clock
- 57:27Speaker 2: the prez hilton thing and i was like whoa dude
- 57:30Speaker 2: he was like you know to be in a movie
- 57:33Speaker 2: as like a funny bit but then like later on
- 57:37Speaker 2: you're like on the headlines because you did a like
- 57:39Speaker 2: a self-inflicted gory thing is kind of fucked dude fucked
- 57:43Speaker 2: parallel but uh we get another moment of this like
- 57:46Speaker 2: uh you know like uh fucking like mark's brother's routine
- 57:50Speaker 2: between uh the chucky head and uh and andy finds
- 57:56Speaker 2: opens a short hair chucky dude.
- 57:59Speaker 3: Well we get the real reveal that it's like you
- 58:01Speaker 3: thought i was the only one And then he's like, wait,
- 58:06Speaker 3: what are you doing? And Andy pulls out a short-haired Chucky.
- 58:09Speaker 2: He tells him about Boku Dembala. This is like modern
- 58:14Speaker 2: mullet Chucky, dude. He's short and spiky on top and
- 58:18Speaker 2: a little bit longer and poofy on the back, dude.
- 58:21Speaker 2: A little Mateo on the back.
- 58:22Speaker 3: It's very Mateo, yeah, 100%.
- 58:27Speaker 2: Dude, Andy's look.
- 58:29Speaker 3: Andy's great. Honestly, Andy, it should have been more Andy.
- 58:34Speaker 2: It should have been more Andy. And then we get
- 58:36Speaker 2: fucking Hypnosil.
- 58:39Speaker 3: Hypnosil, 100%.
- 58:41Speaker 2: He's like, listen, sometimes through hypnosis, hypnosis is in this movie.
- 58:47Speaker 2: We're going to do hypnosis.
- 58:48Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, it's treated in basically the same way as.
- 58:54Speaker 3: Nightmare but in nightmare the the the potato nose uh
- 59:00Speaker 3: bill maher guy adds so much credence to to.
- 59:04Speaker 2: Well because he's likable at least you know what i
- 59:06Speaker 2: mean so i'm.
- 59:07Speaker 3: Like this guy looks like a sleaze yeah and it's
- 59:10Speaker 3: because he seems like he's probably a really nice guy
- 59:13Speaker 3: i don't know.
- 59:13Speaker 2: About that dude hiboku devil is another chucky dude i
- 59:18Speaker 2: did what i i saw this on the dummies for
- 59:23Speaker 2: voodoo for dummies the website yeah it's website chucky um Yeah. And,
- 59:31Speaker 2: I don't know, he hypnotizes her.
- 59:33Speaker 3: Yeah, with like a glowing light, like a seizure-inducing light.
- 59:37Speaker 3: Now watch the pendulum. And then he pours a glass.
- 59:41Speaker 3: This is when I was like, oh, this is going
- 59:43Speaker 3: to get weird and creepy when he pours the scotch.
- 59:47Speaker 3: And he's like, what if I told you there were cameras,
- 59:51Speaker 3: hidden cameras everywhere that recorded your... It was so weird.
- 59:54Speaker 3: It was so weird. It was so off the wall.
- 59:56Speaker 2: Because like... We know that that's not true.
- 1:00:00Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:00:02Speaker 2: And, I don't know, is he implying that, like, wait,
- 1:00:05Speaker 2: is it true or is it not true?
- 1:00:07Speaker 3: It's not true. They never confirmed this. It felt so
- 1:00:11Speaker 3: out of place.
- 1:00:12Speaker 2: Well, because he, like, if that was true, then he
- 1:00:15Speaker 2: would see that there was a Chucky.
- 1:00:17Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. So, it's like, but he's trying to get
- 1:00:20Speaker 3: her to admit that it's her and that she did it.
- 1:00:25Speaker 3: So we would agree that you murdered those people in
- 1:00:28Speaker 3: the tapes. And it's very strange.
- 1:00:32Speaker 2: You can see yourself doing it, can't you? He's like
- 1:00:35Speaker 2: trying to incept that she did it.
- 1:00:37Speaker 3: Totally.
- 1:00:37Speaker 2: In her mind.
- 1:00:38Speaker 3: But it ends up just being a little confusing. And
- 1:00:41Speaker 3: also the implication is that.
- 1:00:43Speaker 2: There's bubbles in this fucking thing that he's like.
- 1:00:46Speaker 3: Anyways. He's also... He's like, oh, I'm glad that we've
- 1:00:52Speaker 3: done these sessions before. It feels a little weird because
- 1:00:55Speaker 3: it's like... Yeah.
- 1:00:55Speaker 2: It's a weird....
- 1:01:01Speaker 3: Choice it's a weird scene i like the scene but
- 1:01:03Speaker 3: and i like the idea and then fucking chucky smashes
- 1:01:07Speaker 3: a bottle on his head and he's like and they
- 1:01:09Speaker 3: call me sick this guy is diabolical.
- 1:01:14Speaker 2: That is a funny part but you gotta say the
- 1:01:16Speaker 2: part where she's like she's like she's he's interrogating her
- 1:01:19Speaker 2: and she's telling her all these things and she's telling
- 1:01:21Speaker 2: him all these things and then she's like And Chucky's
- 1:01:24Speaker 2: right behind you right now. And then he like goes
- 1:01:27Speaker 2: towards her face, ignores her and goes towards her face
- 1:01:31Speaker 2: and like forces her to kiss him. And he's like,
- 1:01:33Speaker 2: I fluff these sessions that where I've been molesting you.
- 1:01:38Speaker 2: And she's like, and, and then she, we, we get the,
- 1:01:41Speaker 2: the audience gets the satisfaction of this piece of shit.
- 1:01:43Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:01:44Speaker 2: Head caved in in the back. And then, yeah, and
- 1:01:47Speaker 2: then Chucky gives the, like, he's diabolical.
- 1:01:50Speaker 3: What a piece of work. I'm actually a little envious.
- 1:01:52Speaker 2: Admires him, dude.
- 1:01:58Speaker 3: Oh, and then, like, he picks up the glass and
- 1:02:01Speaker 3: is like, you know you want to do it. And, like... And.
- 1:02:04Speaker 2: She says she does. She acknowledges that she does, dude.
- 1:02:08Speaker 3: Yeah, 100%.
- 1:02:08Speaker 2: But we don't, we get a cut. And then she's, like,
- 1:02:10Speaker 2: just pulling herself on the ground and... Um, dragging herself
- 1:02:15Speaker 2: through the hallways. Um, but I think this is a
- 1:02:18Speaker 2: dream sequence because we get like dead Alice.
- 1:02:22Speaker 3: Is she dead?
- 1:02:23Speaker 2: Is it ever confirmed that she's dead?
- 1:02:25Speaker 3: No. Okay. So we might get an Alice lore drop
- 1:02:29Speaker 3: later in the series. Oh. There's going to be another movie, dude.
- 1:02:34Speaker 2: Another Don Mancini one?
- 1:02:35Speaker 3: Yeah. After three seasons, there's going to be another movie.
- 1:02:39Speaker 2: Wow. Even after the remake? He's ignoring the remake?
- 1:02:43Speaker 3: He's ignoring the remake. Of course. Why wouldn't you? But yeah,
- 1:02:47Speaker 3: we get a dream sequence where... I like this stuff.
- 1:02:50Speaker 3: I think this stuff is cool. It's the same actress.
- 1:02:52Speaker 3: They got Alice. Oh, hi, Alice. We want to make babies.
- 1:02:57Speaker 3: um and dude and chuck they got chucky three cut
- 1:03:01Speaker 3: up face.
- 1:03:02Speaker 2: Dude the fucking the like the drawing of like the
- 1:03:06Speaker 2: the shadow drawing of chucky loved it it looked so
- 1:03:09Speaker 2: much like uh um what's it called uh what's it
- 1:03:13Speaker 2: called oh my god sorry give me a second hook
- 1:03:20Speaker 2: peter pan it looks so much like peter pan the
- 1:03:22Speaker 2: shadow oh yeah 100 and then like It's like a life-size,
- 1:03:27Speaker 2: like an adult-sized Chucky. Like, very, like, fucking strogy.
- 1:03:35Speaker 3: It's so strange. I totally want to steal that effect
- 1:03:39Speaker 3: for a video. It feels.
- 1:03:40Speaker 2: It looks cool.
- 1:03:41Speaker 3: It looks cool. It very looks like 2000s nu metal. Yeah, 100%.
- 1:03:44Speaker 2: And then she opens her eyes, and she kind of
- 1:03:47Speaker 2: looks like, in this scene, she kind of looks like
- 1:03:49Speaker 2: Keanu Reeves in....
- 1:03:53Speaker 3: She just straight up looks like her. I can't see
- 1:03:55Speaker 3: anybody else but her dad. Like, she looks like a
- 1:03:57Speaker 3: hot lady version of her dad. I mean, her dad
- 1:04:00Speaker 3: was hot, too, when he was young.
- 1:04:02Speaker 2: But, like, she opens her eyes, and her heart rate
- 1:04:07Speaker 2: is rising. And she's got these, like, fucking, like, things
- 1:04:11Speaker 2: attached to her head, and it starts snowing from above her,
- 1:04:14Speaker 2: but it's still the dream sequence, dude.
- 1:04:18Speaker 3: And then she wakes up, and... Madeline is drawing a
- 1:04:21Speaker 3: picture of Chucky and. She's talking about Dr. Foley being
- 1:04:29Speaker 3: people being rude about being late and then.
- 1:04:34Speaker 2: OK, I have a question.
- 1:04:35Speaker 3: I have a question.
- 1:04:36Speaker 2: Do you think that the people, the humans that played
- 1:04:42Speaker 2: Chucky in this movie that played versions of Chucky in
- 1:04:45Speaker 2: this movie? Do you think that they got instructions on
- 1:04:50Speaker 2: how to play Chucky from Brad Dorff? Like, did they embody, like,
- 1:04:55Speaker 2: a Dorff? Because I don't know, like, anything about the
- 1:04:58Speaker 2: production of this. Like, I don't know, like, if they, like,
- 1:05:00Speaker 2: made those kinds of choices. It feels like Don Mancini
- 1:05:04Speaker 2: does have a lot of attention to detail.
- 1:05:06Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:05:06Speaker 2: So I feel like he might make a choice like that.
- 1:05:10Speaker 2: What do you think?
- 1:05:12Speaker 3: Well, I wasn't impressed with.
- 1:05:15Speaker 2: Fiona Dorff's Chucky?
- 1:05:16Speaker 3: No, I loved Fiona Dura.
- 1:05:20Speaker 2: It's amazing that she did her dad's last.
- 1:05:23Speaker 3: She just really did it good. She really did a
- 1:05:26Speaker 3: good job. I really didn't like when Triple Matt was like,
- 1:05:32Speaker 3: Nika's like, so what's your name today? It's not Mark.
- 1:05:35Speaker 3: And he's like, it's Charles. And it's like... No, he
- 1:05:39Speaker 3: wouldn't say it like that. He would be more like this!
- 1:05:43Speaker 3: It would be more like this! Oh, man, there's this one. Man,
- 1:05:50Speaker 3: you've got to look up. I think you've seen it before,
- 1:05:53Speaker 3: but there's this one monologue that Brad Dourif delivers in
- 1:05:58Speaker 3: The Exorcist 3. I watched The Exorcist 3.
- 1:06:00Speaker 2: Yeah, I watched it.
- 1:06:03Speaker 3: It's just like, and the microphone is peaking in the video. Sorry,
- 1:06:08Speaker 3: it's going to peak in this time.
- 1:06:11Speaker 2: I love that scene. I recently watched that movie. It's amazing.
- 1:06:14Speaker 2: yeah that scene.
- 1:06:15Speaker 3: And the like slightly deepened voice that they did for
- 1:06:18Speaker 3: him it's.
- 1:06:19Speaker 2: Amazing oh oh my god dude the indignation this piece
- 1:06:24Speaker 2: of shit doctor has to go up and he's and
- 1:06:27Speaker 2: she's like and she's like dr foley you're okay he's
- 1:06:30Speaker 2: like you assaulted me.
- 1:06:32Speaker 3: Like, I had a hell of a headache.
- 1:06:34Speaker 2: He's like indignant about it, but I'm not going to
- 1:06:36Speaker 2: tell anyone about it because I rape you. And it's like,
- 1:06:39Speaker 2: that's basically what he says. He's like, I'm going to,
- 1:06:42Speaker 2: he threatens her with like her own knowledge of.
- 1:06:45Speaker 3: Him raping her. You assaulted me. And it's like, you
- 1:06:49Speaker 3: assaulted me. What are you talking about? And she didn't. Yeah.
- 1:06:54Speaker 3: She didn't do it. Yeah.
- 1:06:55Speaker 2: She was drugged by you.
- 1:06:57Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:06:59Speaker 2: Yeah, dude. It's fucked.
- 1:07:00Speaker 3: I'm very concerned by this setback.
- 1:07:03Speaker 2: It's so, like, weird, like, controlling. And in the background scene,
- 1:07:07Speaker 2: we get, like, what's the mom's name?
- 1:07:12Speaker 3: Madeline. Madeline. And then she goes to give a boobie
- 1:07:16Speaker 3: to Chucky. And they mention it later. The Chucky's later
- 1:07:20Speaker 3: are like, you got to suck a titty.
- 1:07:23Speaker 2: Pros, dude.
- 1:07:24Speaker 3: And then Andy driving to the mental asylum. And then
- 1:07:29Speaker 3: he gets a call. Everybody just has each other's cell phones. Hey!
- 1:07:36Speaker 3: Who is this? Hey!
- 1:07:40Speaker 2: She's so casual.
- 1:07:42Speaker 3: Hey, Andy. Hello, Andy. It's Tiffany. Jennifer. Even I lose track.
- 1:07:50Speaker 2: It's funny because, like, um... I think, like, when people are, like,
- 1:07:55Speaker 2: crazy liars like that, it is, like, a manipulation tactic
- 1:08:01Speaker 2: to be so familiar.
- 1:08:02Speaker 3: Yeah, totally. Totally. And the cult is growing all the time.
- 1:08:07Speaker 2: The single word that Chucky told her to tell Andy is, Disembowel.
- 1:08:15Speaker 3: Yeah. I have a message from Chucky. You said you
- 1:08:20Speaker 3: know what it means.
- 1:08:21Speaker 2: She said the word as if she's never heard the
- 1:08:23Speaker 2: word disemboweled.
- 1:08:24Speaker 3: I know, totally. But Tiffany might not have. Who knows?
- 1:08:26Speaker 2: It's true.
- 1:08:29Speaker 3: See, this kind of adding in lore throughout is much
- 1:08:34Speaker 3: more interesting to me than youngified Charles Lee Ray. Old man.
- 1:08:43Speaker 3: Very old man at that point. Kind of sagging at
- 1:08:46Speaker 3: the shoulders. He's not this kind of old man with
- 1:08:50Speaker 3: the shoulders back. Upright. Stick up his ass military guy. It's,
- 1:08:56Speaker 3: I used to do drugs, kids. Melted junkie.
- 1:09:02Speaker 2: Yeah and then oh man.
- 1:09:06Speaker 3: Madeline goes to put the baby away and she's gonna
- 1:09:09Speaker 3: do what she did to her own baby which is
- 1:09:12Speaker 3: kill the.
- 1:09:12Speaker 2: Chucky she wants to smother she wants to smother it
- 1:09:15Speaker 2: was such a kind of like left field decision.
- 1:09:17Speaker 3: No but it's cool because of the fact that it's
- 1:09:20Speaker 3: like she loves it so much but loves it in
- 1:09:23Speaker 3: the same way that she tragically killed her own kid so.
- 1:09:26Speaker 2: It's like is it are we meant to believe that
- 1:09:29Speaker 2: he bit her boobie that's why there's like a little
- 1:09:32Speaker 2: blood stain where the nipple is is that what happened.
- 1:09:36Speaker 3: Is that true? I never noticed that. Oh my god,
- 1:09:38Speaker 3: I think you're right. Yeah. I think that is true.
- 1:09:43Speaker 3: I'm your friend to the end.
- 1:09:45Speaker 2: I never stopped loving you. It's kind of a sad scene.
- 1:09:48Speaker 3: It is. Mother is your best friend.
- 1:09:52Speaker 2: This very Marina-looking woman. And then she starts, but Chucky
- 1:09:57Speaker 2: closes his clenches of fists and wants to attack her,
- 1:10:00Speaker 2: but then she starts smothering Chucky. And Chucky is kind
- 1:10:05Speaker 2: of fighting back, but she's like almost successful in, well,
- 1:10:11Speaker 2: I don't know if she can kill a possessed Chucky.
- 1:10:15Speaker 3: What have you done to your baby, Madeline? Foley says.
- 1:10:19Speaker 3: And then... Because they're standing there.
- 1:10:21Speaker 2: That was weird.
- 1:10:22Speaker 3: It was so weird.
- 1:10:23Speaker 2: Were they cut to them standing there? And then.
- 1:10:25Speaker 3: But I loved the fact... Dude, something that I realized
- 1:10:29Speaker 3: I really love in People Are Crazy movies is moments
- 1:10:35Speaker 3: of lucidity that happens to crazy people in our lives, too,
- 1:10:40Speaker 3: where there's these genuine moments of lucidity and you're like...
- 1:10:46Speaker 3: Where you're like, no, what about that? Please stay that.
- 1:10:49Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Well, reality is like a
- 1:10:55Speaker 3: broken clock, dude. It's true.
- 1:10:57Speaker 2: Sometimes.
- 1:10:58Speaker 3: But sometimes with people that are in my life, I
- 1:11:02Speaker 3: yearn for that. And I'm like, just stay there. You
- 1:11:05Speaker 3: can stay there. You have the power, you know?
- 1:11:07Speaker 2: No, but they wouldn't be them, dude.
- 1:11:10Speaker 3: Maybe that's... Maybe then you're right. It is a doll.
- 1:11:14Speaker 2: They wouldn't be them. Nika's side face, dude. Nika's side
- 1:11:22Speaker 2: rolling in. She's very, like, I do feel like I
- 1:11:28Speaker 2: was really glad to see her as Chucky later because
- 1:11:30Speaker 2: I do feel like for the most of the movie,
- 1:11:33Speaker 2: she's a little one note.
- 1:11:34Speaker 3: Madeline? Yeah. No, Nika. Oh, Nika. Yeah, she is a
- 1:11:37Speaker 3: little bit one note. She does a good job at
- 1:11:43Speaker 3: she does a good job at at landing.
- 1:11:47Speaker 2: Really?
- 1:11:47Speaker 3: You think she's one? No, I don't know. I think,
- 1:11:49Speaker 3: I think she does a good job at the pivot,
- 1:11:51Speaker 3: you know, where she becomes a Chucky. Everybody's Chucky.
- 1:11:55Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:11:56Speaker 3: And then, but what's also kind of nefarious about Foley
- 1:12:00Speaker 3: is that he's like, you should apologize to the Chucky.
- 1:12:03Speaker 3: And it's like, you had the, she had the moment
- 1:12:06Speaker 3: of lucidity and you're like encouraging her to be in
- 1:12:09Speaker 3: a delusional moment.
- 1:12:11Speaker 2: That was, yeah, I know. And triple Matt as Chucky
- 1:12:16Speaker 2: is just kind of casually standing in the background. But
- 1:12:18Speaker 2: I do find that interesting now that you brought up
- 1:12:20Speaker 2: that like Matt might've been like weirdly faking being Chucky.
- 1:12:24Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:12:25Speaker 2: As like a defense mechanism for being scared to be
- 1:12:28Speaker 2: in that.
- 1:12:29Speaker 3: Situation, maybe. Yeah, totally.
- 1:12:31Speaker 2: Like break with reality, Matt, kind of thing. I don't know.
- 1:12:35Speaker 2: It's interesting because I didn't really think about it that way.
- 1:12:39Speaker 3: Yeah. And then her, Madeline, being like, oh, you just
- 1:12:43Speaker 3: wouldn't stop crying and crying. She was piercing her skull.
- 1:12:47Speaker 3: And the sound was like a sharp piece of glass
- 1:12:50Speaker 3: drilling into my head. It's like, oh, dude, that's brutal.
- 1:12:52Speaker 2: And then they have a funeral for a mini funeral
- 1:12:54Speaker 2: for Chucky. yeah um and she saves the little shoe
- 1:12:58Speaker 2: but it's a um it's a like a choking hazard
- 1:13:03Speaker 2: or whatever it's like a suicide watch yeah because like
- 1:13:08Speaker 2: i'm like you put her on you put her deliberately
- 1:13:10Speaker 2: in this like highly emotional state only to put her
- 1:13:14Speaker 2: on suicide watch later like And then.
- 1:13:17Speaker 3: When they're burying the... I don't know if you noticed this.
- 1:13:20Speaker 3: When they're burying the doll, they put a cross, but
- 1:13:23Speaker 3: there's already a tombstone. And I was like, I guess
- 1:13:27Speaker 3: this is for the Chucky doll?
- 1:13:30Speaker 2: I love that Jexy's watching this all go down with Nika.
- 1:13:37Speaker 2: And then later on, dude....
- 1:13:40Speaker 3: Andy finally gets the insane asylum.
- 1:13:44Speaker 2: And this, like, fucking dink cop is, like, visiting hours.
- 1:13:47Speaker 3: Are Monday to Friday, 10 to 4. This is very
- 1:13:53Speaker 3: also Terminator. Yeah. Because he punches him. He doesn't shoot
- 1:13:56Speaker 3: him in the legs.
- 1:13:57Speaker 2: But shooting Andy from, like, up above, you can just see, like,
- 1:14:01Speaker 2: he's such a, he's, like, such a small guy.
- 1:14:04Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:14:06Speaker 2: Like, I was just, like, it was shocking to see
- 1:14:10Speaker 2: him next to this cop.
- 1:14:11Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:14:11Speaker 2: Because he just, like, walks up to her.
- 1:14:13Speaker 3: Well, he's also just so normal. He's so normal. It
- 1:14:15Speaker 3: just seems like they brought him in and they were like, so, like,
- 1:14:18Speaker 3: what kind of, do you have any options for clothes?
- 1:14:20Speaker 3: It's like, oh, this is, I thought this was a
- 1:14:23Speaker 3: Chucky product. Oh, it is. We just don't have the budget.
- 1:14:25Speaker 2: We don't have, and also, we can't dress you.
- 1:14:29Speaker 3: I mean, he looks so normal. He looks normal. It's so, like,
- 1:14:32Speaker 3: he looks like a normal guy. And then he- He
- 1:14:34Speaker 3: kind of, it.
- 1:14:35Speaker 2: Gives, it's giving, like, buzz in Blue Ruin.
- 1:14:38Speaker 3: 100% buzz in Blue Ruin. Yeah. except not creepy.
- 1:14:42Speaker 2: But he shows up, though, because that moment where he
- 1:14:45Speaker 2: punches him, and then later when he's making the dead-eyed
- 1:14:49Speaker 2: face as he's being closed in, he's making choices. He's
- 1:14:52Speaker 2: definitely making choices. He's a really good actor. I'm very
- 1:14:57Speaker 2: impressed with his acting.
- 1:14:58Speaker 3: Yeah, totally. And Nika's in a room, it's all dark,
- 1:15:01Speaker 3: she's waiting for shit to happen, and another Chucky comes
- 1:15:07Speaker 3: out of the... Out of the ground. Yeah, it's disheveled hair.
- 1:15:16Speaker 2: Mud Chucky. Mud Chucky, yeah. Zombie Chucky.
- 1:15:20Speaker 3: And Nika gets stabbed with more of the truth serum
- 1:15:26Speaker 3: or whatever. And Cherub Chucky is like, nighty-night! And another
- 1:15:33Speaker 3: mysterious package with a short-haired Chucky comes in. to Dr.
- 1:15:38Speaker 3: Foley's office, and he's like, why am I getting so
- 1:15:42Speaker 3: many Chucky's? And what happened to his hair?
- 1:15:45Speaker 2: We're to believe that this Chucky was sent as a
- 1:15:52Speaker 2: sleeper cell Chucky because Andy knew that he would be
- 1:15:57Speaker 2: Boku Chuckied and that he would be the one to
- 1:16:00Speaker 2: choose to go to kill Andy and that Andy would
- 1:16:03Speaker 2: then be able to grab a gun from him.
- 1:16:05Speaker 3: Yes, yes. Pull his gun from his guts. I mean, interesting.
- 1:16:12Speaker 2: Interesting move.
- 1:16:13Speaker 3: It is an interesting move. Poku Dembola, dude. What do
- 1:16:21Speaker 3: you think of Short Hair Chucky, dude? I like Short
- 1:16:25Speaker 3: Hair Chucky. Me too. It's a very strange choice. It's
- 1:16:27Speaker 3: the first year of going from Turkey.
- 1:16:30Speaker 2: Yes, yes.
- 1:16:31Speaker 3: It's where the hair is still falling out. It's falling in, yeah.
- 1:16:34Speaker 3: And I liked this scene where.
- 1:16:36Speaker 2: But the scalp isn't sloshing around liquid anymore.
- 1:16:39Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. Oh, my God, dude. I really like
- 1:16:43Speaker 3: the scene where Madeline gets the shoe taken away because
- 1:16:47Speaker 3: of the laces. And then Chucky is in the room.
- 1:16:49Speaker 3: The laces were in. They were in. And Chucky comes
- 1:16:55Speaker 3: in and he's like, a mother's love never dies. Not
- 1:17:02Speaker 3: even when she kills it. Um, and then he, he
- 1:17:06Speaker 3: goes to hug her and it's kind of like a
- 1:17:08Speaker 3: weird sweet moment. Okay.
- 1:17:09Speaker 2: Okay.
- 1:17:10Speaker 3: Okay.
- 1:17:10Speaker 2: So yeah, because, because dude, we get a weird like
- 1:17:14Speaker 2: side lore drop that she has made a deal with
- 1:17:20Speaker 2: him to, for him to kill her so that he can,
- 1:17:25Speaker 2: so that she can die without suicide.
- 1:17:29Speaker 3: Yeah. So that she can go to heaven to see her.
- 1:17:32Speaker 3: It continues the lore of the previous movie of the
- 1:17:36Speaker 3: Catholic guilt. Not just the previous stuff, but the fact
- 1:17:40Speaker 3: that they mention that. They do a payoff for that
- 1:17:42Speaker 3: throughout the movie. Where it's like, I can't kill myself
- 1:17:44Speaker 3: because that's against my religion. And I can't do that
- 1:17:48Speaker 3: because I won't go to heaven to see my kid.
- 1:17:51Speaker 2: Interesting inclusion.
- 1:17:52Speaker 3: Yeah. And also when he says to her.
- 1:17:59Speaker 3: Will it hurt and he goes i'll do my best
- 1:18:03Speaker 3: it's like weird sinister psycho chucky which i love and.
- 1:18:08Speaker 2: Then he like slowly fingers her mouth.
- 1:18:11Speaker 3: Oh man the fingering the mouth.
- 1:18:13Speaker 2: It's amazing and like her like looking into his.
- 1:18:17Speaker 3: Eyes and kind of kissing the hand yeah and then.
- 1:18:20Speaker 2: He like fists her head and and rips out like
- 1:18:25Speaker 2: his own arm he written oh he rips out like
- 1:18:28Speaker 2: a plate from the back of her like i don't
- 1:18:30Speaker 2: know if it's like a piece of her like esophagus
- 1:18:32Speaker 2: it's like a like it looks like a sugar coating
- 1:18:36Speaker 2: yeah um and for some reason.
- 1:18:40Speaker 3: He like punches in the back of her head.
- 1:18:43Speaker 2: For some reason the sexy nurse gets a feeling that
- 1:18:46Speaker 2: she gets an intuition that uh a chucky killing is
- 1:18:50Speaker 2: happening and this mouth is being fisted and he goes
- 1:18:52Speaker 2: and like fully fits the the throat and the nurse
- 1:19:01Speaker 2: starts running it's intercut she starts running and he pulls
- 1:19:03Speaker 2: out the plate um it's so gross this plate um
- 1:19:10Speaker 2: and he like closes his eyes and closes his fists
- 1:19:13Speaker 2: and then he has his arm ripped out but he's
- 1:19:17Speaker 2: not turning into goo body.
- 1:19:21Speaker 3: Anymore yeah for some reason one one that one chucky
- 1:19:25Speaker 3: does turn into a goo body doll where he and
- 1:19:28Speaker 3: he pulls the gun out of it.
- 1:19:29Speaker 2: Is there a yeah he does he does but his
- 1:19:32Speaker 2: head turns into cake.
- 1:19:33Speaker 3: Dude That's true. Yeah, it is very cake.
- 1:19:36Speaker 2: No, I think it was cake. I think it was
- 1:19:37Speaker 2: actually cake.
- 1:19:38Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you think it was actually cake? Yeah, look
- 1:19:40Speaker 3: at it. Well, let's get to it. But multiple Matt...
- 1:19:44Speaker 3: He leaves the hand. Yeah, for some reason is just
- 1:19:48Speaker 3: out and about at night, just hanging out. And he's like, Dr. Foley.
- 1:19:54Speaker 2: And he's, like, giving lip to the fucking, like, staff. There's, like,
- 1:19:58Speaker 2: an all-staff meeting of, like, the three people that work there.
- 1:20:01Speaker 3: You mean the three people that work there?
- 1:20:02Speaker 2: And she quits, so there's two people that work there now.
- 1:20:06Speaker 2: It very much feels like the part in Part 3,
- 1:20:10Speaker 2: Child's Play 3, where, like, it feels like the kids
- 1:20:13Speaker 2: are running the fucking, like, military. And Jexy gets left
- 1:20:19Speaker 2: with this Chucky, with this, like, with the disheveled Chucky.
- 1:20:26Speaker 3: I mean, how much am I, like, looking at a
- 1:20:28Speaker 3: movie like this being like, what do I need to
- 1:20:30Speaker 3: suspend my disbelief? You know what I mean? It's just,
- 1:20:33Speaker 3: it feels like, you know, yeah, whatever. Let's just go
- 1:20:40Speaker 3: for it. And it's like this white brooms, like, what
- 1:20:43Speaker 3: is this building?
- 1:20:44Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, yeah. Jexy throws the Chucky away as Dr.
- 1:20:49Speaker 2: Foley walks into the office, discovering that Nika's in there.
- 1:20:52Speaker 3: And he's like, Nika.
- 1:20:54Speaker 2: What are you doing? How did you get in here?
- 1:20:56Speaker 3: And he's like, how did you guess? She goes, take
- 1:20:58Speaker 3: a fucking, how did you guess?
- 1:21:00Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:21:03Speaker 3: And there's the Chucky doll. Yeah, she's so over it.
- 1:21:06Speaker 2: It was Chucky. I like that it was Chucky has
- 1:21:11Speaker 2: become such a thing.
- 1:21:12Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:21:13Speaker 2: Like throughout the movies, it kind of becomes this weird mantra.
- 1:21:16Speaker 2: And that's why it is cult of Chucky dudes. Totally.
- 1:21:19Speaker 2: It was Chucky. And then so many Chucky's. And sleeper
- 1:21:24Speaker 2: cell junkie and people, everybody's junkie. Yeah, it's great.
- 1:21:29Speaker 3: And also the holding of, for Dr. Foley, holding this
- 1:21:34Speaker 3: vibe of like reality for himself too, where he's like, I'm.
- 1:21:39Speaker 2: Keeping the smugness, dude. He's got the big Bill Maher smarm.
- 1:21:42Speaker 3: Yeah. And it's like, either way, I'm going to get
- 1:21:45Speaker 3: a hell of a book out of this. And it's
- 1:21:49Speaker 3: like this level of.
- 1:21:51Speaker 2: She emulated herself so it looked like Chucky would do it. What?
- 1:21:54Speaker 3: Yeah, it makes no sense.
- 1:21:56Speaker 2: Why would she do that? He's like, either way, it's
- 1:21:57Speaker 2: going to make a hell of a book.
- 1:21:58Speaker 3: But the interesting part about it is knowing that this
- 1:22:02Speaker 3: person is somewhat delusional as well. There's this understanding that
- 1:22:06Speaker 3: weird shit is happening.
- 1:22:08Speaker 2: And he's not accepting it.
- 1:22:08Speaker 3: And he's not accepting it. And he's like, you're going
- 1:22:11Speaker 3: to go back to Lockmar tomorrow. Yeah.
- 1:22:14Speaker 2: The high security prison that she's just been sent from.
- 1:22:17Speaker 2: And he's like, and it's too bad because I could
- 1:22:19Speaker 2: have worked with you more one-on-one here. He's like sad
- 1:22:21Speaker 2: that she ruined his plan to rape her. Yeah. It's
- 1:22:24Speaker 2: really sinister.
- 1:22:25Speaker 3: And then he. takes red shoes out. This felt like weird.
- 1:22:29Speaker 3: He takes it like wedge pumps, dude. These red wedge
- 1:22:32Speaker 3: pumps and like kisses her feet, which is like, well,
- 1:22:35Speaker 3: he's got.
- 1:22:35Speaker 2: A foot fetish and they want to make it that
- 1:22:37Speaker 2: fetish people are evil, dude. Yeah. Um, but he takes
- 1:22:41Speaker 2: out her feet and like kisses her toe.
- 1:22:45Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:22:45Speaker 2: It puts on the shoe, dude. And yeah, just like, well,
- 1:22:48Speaker 2: I think it is. I think what it is, dude,
- 1:22:50Speaker 2: I think the reason they included this is like the
- 1:22:53Speaker 2: idea of like, controlling someone's feet who can't control their
- 1:22:57Speaker 2: own yeah like a power exchange of like he's more
- 1:23:01Speaker 2: like power lording of power over somebody um and yeah
- 1:23:06Speaker 2: and then like putting her in heels when she can't
- 1:23:09Speaker 2: walk is also like this like kind of like i
- 1:23:11Speaker 2: don't know like it's supposed to say something but then like.
- 1:23:14Speaker 3: And then she she spits in his face and then
- 1:23:16Speaker 3: chucky hits him over the head and he's like i
- 1:23:18Speaker 3: just can't can't with this guy i don't know whether
- 1:23:22Speaker 3: to kill him or take notes You know what it is?
- 1:23:28Speaker 3: You know what the voice thing is? It's like you
- 1:23:30Speaker 3: get to a point where you get really old and
- 1:23:33Speaker 3: it gets back into a different register again. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:23:38Speaker 2: He has to access the Chucky point differently.
- 1:23:40Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. Which is cool.
- 1:23:42Speaker 2: I mean, it's nice that he was able to make
- 1:23:44Speaker 2: it evolve. I never felt like Chucky didn't have personality.
- 1:23:51Speaker 2: I like the changing voice. We are seeing Chucky through time. Yeah. So, like,
- 1:23:57Speaker 2: you know, he might change, you know, like.
- 1:24:01Speaker 3: Yeah, totally. And then we get the reveal of all
- 1:24:04Speaker 3: of the Chuckies. He, like, spins her around being like...
- 1:24:07Speaker 3: We get.
- 1:24:07Speaker 2: Long fingers Chucky. We get short hair Chucky.
- 1:24:11Speaker 3: We get behooves Chucky.
- 1:24:14Speaker 2: We do.
- 1:24:14Speaker 3: We get... I can't believe they cancelled the show Hannibal Chucky.
- 1:24:17Speaker 3: He's been watching Hannibal, dude. A very contemporary reference at
- 1:24:21Speaker 3: that point.
- 1:24:22Speaker 2: Well, so do you think that the mechanics of this
- 1:24:24Speaker 2: Chucky magic, that they all... continue to share the same experiences?
- 1:24:29Speaker 2: Or when they're individual Chucky, are they now having their
- 1:24:33Speaker 2: own new, unique experiences, but they have the same root?
- 1:24:37Speaker 3: I think it's like hive mind stuff.
- 1:24:38Speaker 2: It's hive mind Chucky?
- 1:24:39Speaker 3: Yeah. I think it's very, I think it is hive
- 1:24:43Speaker 3: mind stuff. So they, they, they Boku Dambola, uh, the,
- 1:24:48Speaker 3: the short haired Chucky who goes obviously to kill Andy.
- 1:24:52Speaker 2: I like how he immediately makes an evil face as
- 1:24:55Speaker 2: soon as he comes to life. They're very, they are
- 1:24:58Speaker 2: very cute, dude. The cherubic Chucky's, especially when there was
- 1:25:00Speaker 2: three of them together. It also kind of makes it better.
- 1:25:05Speaker 2: It's kind of like a, an answer to the like manufacturedness.
- 1:25:09Speaker 2: Like if, if we got Michael power's face, Chucky, it
- 1:25:13Speaker 2: would be too much personality. Chucky, you know, this makes
- 1:25:17Speaker 2: more sense that there's more of them.
- 1:25:18Speaker 3: Yeah. Totally.
- 1:25:19Speaker 2: It's like cute, small vase.
- 1:25:22Speaker 3: I like the cute, small face. And they go, And
- 1:25:28Speaker 3: then fucking Jexi walks in and they all kill him.
- 1:25:32Speaker 2: They like fucking gross bubble balloon guts disembowel him.
- 1:25:39Speaker 3: 100%. And there's a lot of stabbing. It looks brutal. Yeah,
- 1:25:42Speaker 3: the like cutting open his stomach and the like steam
- 1:25:46Speaker 3: coming out. It was like, oh my God. The steampunk, dude.
- 1:25:50Speaker 3: And I love that all of them are like cherubic
- 1:25:53Speaker 3: face happy. Did you see the steam coming out?
- 1:25:56Speaker 2: They were, like, excited about it, yeah.
- 1:26:00Speaker 3: Yeah, them being, like, children and friends.
- 1:26:04Speaker 2: I love them being friends.
- 1:26:06Speaker 3: I want to kill Auntie. I earned it. You got to.
- 1:26:09Speaker 2: Suck a titty today. When he dies here, I'm like, oh, no, Jax.
- 1:26:12Speaker 2: He looks so much like him.
- 1:26:14Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:26:16Speaker 2: And he's like, no, that's it.
- 1:26:21Speaker 3: And then we get a little scene outside where the
- 1:26:24Speaker 3: the cop who got punched.
- 1:26:26Speaker 2: Did we talk about the like negotiation between the chuggies
- 1:26:30Speaker 2: of who's gonna get to like who's gonna get to
- 1:26:32Speaker 2: go kill andy.
- 1:26:34Speaker 3: Well he the the one that comes to life earns
- 1:26:37Speaker 3: it because he was the one who I think slit.
- 1:26:42Speaker 2: Well, no, cause they cut his hair.
- 1:26:43Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
- 1:26:44Speaker 2: They're like, Oh, well look at him. He's fucked up.
- 1:26:46Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:26:46Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:26:47Speaker 3: That's true.
- 1:26:47Speaker 2: His hair's all fucked up. Chucky likes his long hair, dude.
- 1:26:51Speaker 2: He doesn't want to have a short modern mullet.
- 1:26:53Speaker 3: Yeah, it's true.
- 1:26:56Speaker 2: And then the like long fingers, Chucky wants to take
- 1:27:00Speaker 2: care of Nico because she's the one that burned his fingers, dude. Yeah.
- 1:27:05Speaker 3: The cop goes outside to, uh, see a giant red car,
- 1:27:10Speaker 3: and he sees Tiffany, the doll, in the back. And
- 1:27:13Speaker 3: then Tiffany, the Jennifer Tilly, slices his throat.
- 1:27:17Speaker 2: Yeah, she's like the real slasher, dude.
- 1:27:21Speaker 3: Yeah, totally.
- 1:27:22Speaker 2: She likes, like, just the simple sliced throat. Like, she's
- 1:27:25Speaker 2: done it a bunch of times now.
- 1:27:27Speaker 3: Yeah, 100%. If I wanted you dead, you'd be tits
- 1:27:35Speaker 3: up right now. So, we get... I was never going
- 1:27:39Speaker 3: to kill you, Nika Chucky, which is very strange because
- 1:27:43Speaker 3: in the last one he was definitely going to kill her.
- 1:27:46Speaker 3: But whatever. It wouldn't be a Chucky movie if it
- 1:27:50Speaker 3: didn't change the lore slightly to benefit the new Chucky movie.
- 1:27:54Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, totally. I mean, that's like a running thing. Dude,
- 1:27:59Speaker 2: I have to shout out Jennifer Tilly's insane unhinged performance
- 1:28:04Speaker 2: in this scene where she's fucking licking the blood and
- 1:28:06Speaker 2: she does a kind of like, sloppy face she's not
- 1:28:10Speaker 2: afraid to be silly dude oh yeah but also her
- 1:28:16Speaker 2: the like the way in which she's like silly is
- 1:28:20Speaker 2: very unhinged in a way that like does kind of
- 1:28:23Speaker 2: anchor a serious murder reality in this yeah i don't
- 1:28:28Speaker 2: think the other chucky kills do as much.
- 1:28:31Speaker 3: Yeah that's fair uh and i like the idea of
- 1:28:36Speaker 3: long because long fingers chucky is explaining how there are
- 1:28:38Speaker 3: worse things than death which that i like because it's
- 1:28:41Speaker 3: like oh yeah he's been through quite a bit in
- 1:28:44Speaker 3: a way that's like uh would have a lot of
- 1:28:47Speaker 3: experiences in the nether worlds and stuff like that and
- 1:28:51Speaker 3: coming back to life and dying and that must be
- 1:28:54Speaker 3: fucking weird but Ade, Boku, Dembella. Boku, dude. Yeah, to Boku, dude.
- 1:29:02Speaker 3: To Boku.
- 1:29:03Speaker 2: Give me all the power, I beg of you, dude.
- 1:29:05Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:29:06Speaker 2: Give me all the power. Because this time he's going
- 1:29:08Speaker 2: to be Nika, dude. What do you think of Nika
- 1:29:13Speaker 2: turning into Chucky, dude?
- 1:29:14Speaker 3: Love it. I loved it. Her getting to stand again,
- 1:29:17Speaker 3: and her being.
- 1:29:20Speaker 3: Getting stabbed by Chucky, and then in the womb, losing
- 1:29:25Speaker 3: the ability of her legs, only to get invaded by him,
- 1:29:29Speaker 3: and then become a Chucky.
- 1:29:30Speaker 2: And then be able to walk again, yeah. Man, it's
- 1:29:35Speaker 2: so bizarre.
- 1:29:36Speaker 3: It's very bizarre. Also, like... The idea of the daughter
- 1:29:44Speaker 3: of the person, the actor playing the voice, there's something
- 1:29:50Speaker 3: very meta about it. Yeah, it's like, I would be
- 1:29:53Speaker 3: so weirded out seeing my daughter in a sex scene.
- 1:29:57Speaker 3: in a movie.
- 1:29:58Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
- 1:30:00Speaker 3: And then like to make out with Jennifer, Jennifer Tilly is, is,
- 1:30:05Speaker 3: is great, but it's like, that's weird too, but mostly
- 1:30:08Speaker 3: like the kind of thing of like, um, kind of
- 1:30:12Speaker 3: in inheriting this role from your dad too, is very strange.
- 1:30:17Speaker 3: It's very cool.
- 1:30:19Speaker 2: And she stands up, um, or Chucky stands up and
- 1:30:23Speaker 2: is able to like walk and she's like, hi, a duck.
- 1:30:26Speaker 3: Yeah. And then grabs her own titties and being like,
- 1:30:29Speaker 3: it's great to be able to possess other people. And,
- 1:30:34Speaker 3: but then he like kind of gets revenge, uh, on, on, on, uh,
- 1:30:40Speaker 3: Foley by being like, this is for Nika. And then
- 1:30:43Speaker 3: smashes his head. That's very satisfying.
- 1:30:46Speaker 2: That was like a very, like literally like so much dude,
- 1:30:48Speaker 2: like just like his head is like, just like pure
- 1:30:50Speaker 2: fucking mush. It looks like if they were trying to
- 1:30:57Speaker 2: fix him in the pit, if she was later on
- 1:31:01Speaker 2: on the shift, doing the night shift at the pit,
- 1:31:03Speaker 2: she would pull his face meat up.
- 1:31:06Speaker 3: Yeah, 100%. That's exactly what it is. But this movie, unfortunately,
- 1:31:12Speaker 3: has a similar problem as the last movie, which is like...
- 1:31:15Speaker 3: there's like 10 more minutes left and you're like, how
- 1:31:17Speaker 3: are you going to solve this? There's like a whole
- 1:31:19Speaker 3: other plot in this movie. Yeah. I don't know.
- 1:31:23Speaker 2: Like deciding where to end the story is maybe a
- 1:31:27Speaker 2: weird thing that I don't know. Like, I don't know.
- 1:31:30Speaker 2: He like, we get the reveal that triple Matt has
- 1:31:34Speaker 2: drilled the nurse and she's dead. And now like, he's like,
- 1:31:38Speaker 2: I killed her. And he's like, I'm Charles in your dreams, asshole.
- 1:31:44Speaker 2: She's like, yeah, she's like, she reveals here that he
- 1:31:47Speaker 2: was never Charles Lee Ray. Yeah.
- 1:31:53Speaker 3: Nobody calls me that. My friends call me Chucky.
- 1:31:55Speaker 2: And then he realizes that he's not Chucky.
- 1:32:01Speaker 3: And he's like, you're a fucking poser, which is hilarious.
- 1:32:04Speaker 2: Sick.
- 1:32:06Speaker 3: Oh man.
- 1:32:07Speaker 2: And not in the fun way like me. Chucky understands
- 1:32:11Speaker 2: the differences in types of crazy.
- 1:32:12Speaker 3: I'm just Malcolm. I'm multiple Malcolm.
- 1:32:17Speaker 2: Multiple Matthew.
- 1:32:20Speaker 3: But he says, I can still hear Chucky in my head,
- 1:32:23Speaker 3: which is really interesting.
- 1:32:24Speaker 2: Do you think he was slightly Boku Dembolad, but Chucky
- 1:32:26Speaker 2: wasn't able to break through because of the multiple personalities?
- 1:32:30Speaker 2: He's better able to compartmentalize.
- 1:32:32Speaker 3: I think so.
- 1:32:33Speaker 2: Does the Chucky possession work as like a, Is he
- 1:32:37Speaker 2: possessing your personality? Is he taking over your body? What
- 1:32:41Speaker 2: is it? Is that a Ratatouille situation?
- 1:32:45Speaker 3: It feels like Nika is eventually going to come back
- 1:32:47Speaker 3: and they're going to be like, she's broken free from
- 1:32:50Speaker 3: his spell or whatever.
- 1:32:52Speaker 2: That would be interesting if she was just Chucky now.
- 1:32:55Speaker 3: Yeah, it could be.
- 1:32:57Speaker 2: Because she gives very much like a, eventually starts giving
- 1:33:01Speaker 2: like a very much like a kind of like a
- 1:33:02Speaker 2: Joker performance.
- 1:33:04Speaker 3: Yeah, totally.
- 1:33:05Speaker 2: And, like, mixture of Jokers. Like, very, like, camp Joker.
- 1:33:10Speaker 3: Totally.
- 1:33:10Speaker 2: Also a little bit camp Riddler from the original Riddler.
- 1:33:14Speaker 3: And we'll never be able to find out about multiple
- 1:33:16Speaker 3: Malcolm because he gets... He gets screwed. Yeah, totally. It
- 1:33:22Speaker 3: seems like he actually gets the police officer in Terminator 2. Yeah,
- 1:33:28Speaker 3: where he's like... Totally, totally. Drills through his eye, through
- 1:33:34Speaker 3: the back of his head.
- 1:33:35Speaker 2: Yeah, it's brutal. Yeah, fucked up.
- 1:33:38Speaker 3: And we get... She does a good job. It's like
- 1:33:45Speaker 3: a really good job.
- 1:33:46Speaker 2: Yeah, well, she's been Boku Demolat, dude.
- 1:33:49Speaker 3: Yeah, and then laughing with the doll is so funny
- 1:33:53Speaker 3: and is so cute.
- 1:33:55Speaker 2: It's funny, though, like... Okay, so... Little Chucky, like a
- 1:34:01Speaker 2: little mullet Chucky shows up and reveals the card, dude.
- 1:34:08Speaker 3: Andy Barkley, as I live and breathe. I love it, dude.
- 1:34:12Speaker 3: And then he throws the knife, because canonically he can
- 1:34:15Speaker 3: throw knives, dude. That's true, yeah.
- 1:34:20Speaker 2: As I live and breathe. I love how ready Andy
- 1:34:23Speaker 2: is to, like, attack this Chucky.
- 1:34:25Speaker 3: Yeah, to fist this Chucky's body to get a gun out.
- 1:34:28Speaker 2: He's sleeper-celled.
- 1:34:33Speaker 3: And this is the end, fucker. This is the end, friend.
- 1:34:37Speaker 3: And he just keeps shooting this doll. He wastes the
- 1:34:41Speaker 3: bullets in this doll.
- 1:34:42Speaker 2: Look at this cake head. Look at the cake.
- 1:34:45Speaker 3: It's cake.
- 1:34:46Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:34:46Speaker 3: Look at it. Yeah, you're right. It is definitely cake.
- 1:34:51Speaker 2: You can see, like, cake chunks in it. It looks great, dude.
- 1:34:58Speaker 3: Wow.
- 1:34:59Speaker 2: What a choice. It's just blood starts everywhere, blood spattered everywhere,
- 1:35:03Speaker 2: and just, like, fucking goo. Yeah, it looks cool. I think, like,
- 1:35:09Speaker 2: anytime Andy, like, seeing him, like, rage out on Chucky
- 1:35:12Speaker 2: is always very satisfying for his childhood. For his lost childhood, dude.
- 1:35:17Speaker 3: Well, this is the.
- 1:35:18Speaker 2: It's a metaphor for how the movie industry robbed him
- 1:35:21Speaker 2: of his childhood.
- 1:35:22Speaker 3: Yeah. This is the interesting thing about this scene where
- 1:35:24Speaker 3: Nika sort of is explaining. It's like, oh, you kill me,
- 1:35:29Speaker 3: you kill her. But it's like, do we really know
- 1:35:32Speaker 3: that Andy knows her at all? That's what I'm like.
- 1:35:36Speaker 3: I don't know if Andy... I don't think... I think
- 1:35:38Speaker 3: Andy would just be traumatized to shit. I think he
- 1:35:40Speaker 3: would just be like... Yeah, totally.
- 1:35:43Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too. Well, because if he's the
- 1:35:45Speaker 2: kind of guy that's, like, kept a tortured head.
- 1:35:48Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like... I don't know.
- 1:35:50Speaker 2: Oh, man. Like, evil face Chucky going into regular doll
- 1:35:56Speaker 2: face Chucky was really well done.
- 1:35:59Speaker 3: The little snarls. And the, like, placing the dolls around. Nika's, like,
- 1:36:06Speaker 3: kind of setting the scene for everybody else. It's like, oh, yeah, like,
- 1:36:10Speaker 3: the Chucky's did it, which is very cool. And then
- 1:36:13Speaker 3: she comes out With her red scarf and cool jacket.
- 1:36:16Speaker 3: And the heels. And the heels. And she goes to
- 1:36:19Speaker 3: the red car, dude. Yeah, of course. You look great, Tiff.
- 1:36:24Speaker 3: I love that they're immediately, like, horny for each other. Yeah.
- 1:36:28Speaker 2: And they make out.
- 1:36:29Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:36:29Speaker 2: Well, I mean, it would make sense. She's attracted to
- 1:36:32Speaker 2: Brad Dourif's features.
- 1:36:34Speaker 3: Right? Yeah. She's basically getting young Brad Dourif.
- 1:36:37Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:36:38Speaker 3: It's very hot, dude.
- 1:36:39Speaker 2: It's nice. You look great, Tiff. It kind of feels
- 1:36:44Speaker 2: a little bit like she's doing a Natasha Lyonne impression.
- 1:36:47Speaker 3: Totally, yeah.
- 1:36:50Speaker 2: But which, like, Natasha Lyonne is basically Chucky.
- 1:36:53Speaker 3: Yeah, totally. And then Tiff is also laughing in the back,
- 1:36:57Speaker 3: like the doll is alive.
- 1:36:59Speaker 2: Implying that Tiff also is Boku Demolad. Liked being a
- 1:37:06Speaker 2: doll and a human being.
- 1:37:07Speaker 3: Yeah, and then they leave, and then we get another
- 1:37:10Speaker 3: post-credit sequence.
- 1:37:12Speaker 2: Okay.
- 1:37:12Speaker 3: In where.
- 1:37:13Speaker 2: Oh my god, dude.
- 1:37:14Speaker 3: Kyle! Hello, Kyle.
- 1:37:17Speaker 2: That was the gag of this movie.
- 1:37:19Speaker 3: Old Kyle. Old Kyle and being like, Andy sent me.
- 1:37:24Speaker 3: Because Chucky sent these people. Of course Andy would figure
- 1:37:29Speaker 3: out that he's sending people.
- 1:37:31Speaker 2: Wait, so Chucky, like Andy doesn't die though, right? No.
- 1:37:35Speaker 3: Andy just gets trapped in the mental institution. And we
- 1:37:42Speaker 3: get Gross, chucky face. Waiting. Which would be, like, a
- 1:37:47Speaker 3: different kind of torture. It's like... Having to be, like, doll-faced? Yeah,
- 1:37:52Speaker 3: having to be, like, a permanent.
- 1:37:54Speaker 2: But do you just, like, maybe go into dormant mode? Like,
- 1:37:57Speaker 2: do you just kind of go dormant for a while?
- 1:37:59Speaker 2: You just kind of, like, glaze over until... I don't know.
- 1:38:03Speaker 2: Time doesn't really matter. You're an inanimate object.
- 1:38:06Speaker 3: That's true, yeah. You're not getting older, necessarily. And then...
- 1:38:11Speaker 3: That's it. She pulls out a pair of pliers and
- 1:38:15Speaker 3: she's like, Andy sent me. And it's like, and he's like, Kyle?
- 1:38:19Speaker 2: I love that he recognized her and I love that
- 1:38:23Speaker 2: he was like surprised and said her name.
- 1:38:27Speaker 3: It's cool.
- 1:38:28Speaker 2: I mean, like, listen, dude. We were thirsty for lore,
- 1:38:32Speaker 2: and we got lore. Like, we got all the lore.
- 1:38:36Speaker 2: What did you think of the Kyle moment?
- 1:38:38Speaker 3: I thought it was great. I mean, like, I liked
- 1:38:41Speaker 3: the reintroduction of Andy and Kyle. This one makes me
- 1:38:46Speaker 3: really excited to watch the show. I'm going to watch
- 1:38:49Speaker 3: the show. That's going to be really fun.
- 1:38:52Speaker 2: Is the show the sequel to this? Yes. Oh.
- 1:38:56Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:38:58Speaker 2: So the show is the continuation of this storyline? Yeah.
- 1:39:03Speaker 3: They continue it even more? Yeah.
- 1:39:06Speaker 2: That's crazy.
- 1:39:06Speaker 3: There's no... There's soft rebooting sometimes, but there's no changing.
- 1:39:13Speaker 3: It's all in the universe. That's really interesting. Dude, I
- 1:39:15Speaker 3: will say... Consistency, dude. That's the thing. I was going
- 1:39:19Speaker 3: to say, this is the most consistent series we've had.
- 1:39:22Speaker 2: Ever. Ever.
- 1:39:24Speaker 3: I think this... Like, I'm going to give this a 7.
- 1:39:29Speaker 3: I need to give it a 6.5. Totally fair.
- 1:39:33Speaker 2: Because I did have a lot of trouble with it,
- 1:39:35Speaker 2: but I did really enjoy it.
- 1:39:36Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm going to give this a 7. I'm actually
- 1:39:40Speaker 3: going to give it a lot of Boku Demolas. I'm
- 1:39:43Speaker 3: going to Boku Demola this. Okay. And I think that
- 1:39:48Speaker 3: it's a pretty fun... series to talk about. And it's
- 1:39:53Speaker 3: a pretty enjoyable series to watch. Maybe most enjoyable. Yeah.
- 1:39:59Speaker 3: To watch. Yeah. Friday the 13th was a fucking slog.
- 1:40:04Speaker 3: There were some really cool moments. Jason goes to hell
- 1:40:08Speaker 3: is definitely my favorite.
- 1:40:09Speaker 2: There's definitely highlights for sure. Yeah. Um, Freddie, I mean,
- 1:40:14Speaker 2: Freddie's pretty, Freddie's a classic.
- 1:40:15Speaker 3: Yeah. Um, I actually might think that just in terms
- 1:40:20Speaker 3: of lore, um, This one's more consistent than Freddy.
- 1:40:24Speaker 2: It's definitely more consistent than Freddy lore.
- 1:40:26Speaker 3: But.
- 1:40:27Speaker 2: Freddy tries, but doesn't.
- 1:40:29Speaker 3: Succeed as much. Doesn't succeed as much, yeah.
- 1:40:30Speaker 2: Because this one has Don Mancini still in the helm.
- 1:40:32Speaker 3: Yeah, totally. So there's like one unique voice that's there always.
- 1:40:38Speaker 3: I will say Freddy is still my favorite series to watch. Uh,
- 1:40:45Speaker 3: and also the arc of Chucky becoming the main guy
- 1:40:52Speaker 3: without becoming kind of like, cause he's always a little goofy.
- 1:40:57Speaker 3: It feels like he's also the most consistent throughout the series. Um,
- 1:41:02Speaker 3: Freddie seems like he shouldn't have been as funny. He
- 1:41:06Speaker 3: doesn't earn being as funny as much as Chucky earns
- 1:41:09Speaker 3: being as funny.
- 1:41:10Speaker 2: I agree, I agree. Because the things around Freddy aren't
- 1:41:13Speaker 2: as funny as the things around Chucky.
- 1:41:14Speaker 3: No, it's like, I don't know, child molestation and murder.
- 1:41:19Speaker 3: It just feels a little bit less, like turning things
- 1:41:23Speaker 3: campy that are like, oh, that's a little bit weird.
- 1:41:26Speaker 2: With Chucky, it's like, that's the thing is like there's,
- 1:41:33Speaker 2: we don't really get what, why he is like a murderer,
- 1:41:38Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like he's just a murderous guy. Yeah.
- 1:41:42Speaker 3: It's just kind of all over, like all over the
- 1:41:44Speaker 3: place with him in terms of, it's consistently all over
- 1:41:47Speaker 3: the place where it's just like, I kind of just
- 1:41:49Speaker 3: like murder, you know? Whereas like, and they joke about
- 1:41:54Speaker 3: it in a way they've always kind of joked about it.
- 1:41:58Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know. I'm like struggling to
- 1:42:01Speaker 3: articulate it. But there's something about this series that felt
- 1:42:05Speaker 3: very energized and interesting.
- 1:42:08Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a willingness to engage with ideas in a
- 1:42:16Speaker 2: specific kind of way that, while limited in scope, seems
- 1:42:22Speaker 2: unlimited in possibilities.
- 1:42:24Speaker 3: Yeah, which is weird, because you'd think... Like, a dream
- 1:42:28Speaker 3: guy has unlimited possibilities, too. But this... I never thought
- 1:42:35Speaker 3: to watch them all at once. I've only kind of
- 1:42:37Speaker 3: watched them sporadically throughout and had different feelings at different times.
- 1:42:42Speaker 3: But watching it all at once, it was really a
- 1:42:45Speaker 3: fascinating kind of series, which I'm... we'll decide whether or
- 1:42:51Speaker 3: not we're going to do the, the.
- 1:42:53Speaker 2: The show. It's, it's a, it's a commitment. It's like
- 1:42:57Speaker 2: 19 hours of material.
- 1:42:59Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:43:00Speaker 2: Um, which like I'm down for, cause I am, I
- 1:43:02Speaker 2: am very curious about it. There's stuff, there's stuff that
- 1:43:05Speaker 2: I've revealed to myself that like, that I also revealed
- 1:43:08Speaker 2: to you, but I know more than you do, but, Um, like.
- 1:43:13Speaker 3: I'm really interested.
- 1:43:14Speaker 2: Stuff that I know is.
- 1:43:15Speaker 3: Yeah. Kind of really cool. Yeah. Yeah. So we'll see,
- 1:43:19Speaker 3: we'll see where we're at, but what did you think?
- 1:43:21Speaker 3: What did you think overall? Uh, overall?
- 1:43:23Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:43:24Speaker 3: 6.5.
- 1:43:24Speaker 2: Like I did, I stuck with my initial reaction a
- 1:43:28Speaker 2: little bit, but I softened, I would have given it
- 1:43:30Speaker 2: a five if I'd done it earlier.
- 1:43:31Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:43:32Speaker 2: But because I did like have the same kind of
- 1:43:34Speaker 2: reaction that you did, but then I was like, you
- 1:43:36Speaker 2: know what? Like, yeah, all of the things we talked about,
- 1:43:38Speaker 2: like everybody's Chuck, you know, like it's like, It's fun.
- 1:43:42Speaker 2: And it is kind of like when you were comparing
- 1:43:45Speaker 2: it against the other series, I was also thinking about Saw. Like, obviously,
- 1:43:47Speaker 2: that's the big comparison for this one, because we do
- 1:43:51Speaker 2: get into this kind of more like micro budget, more
- 1:43:54Speaker 2: digital Chucky. Like, you know, they've adjusted their expectations and
- 1:43:57Speaker 2: their stuff like it's directed video or whatever. Like, but
- 1:44:01Speaker 2: there's a love and a care paid to it the
- 1:44:03Speaker 2: same way that the Saw movies do, where it's like, yeah,
- 1:44:06Speaker 2: we care about the story. We care about the lore.
- 1:44:10Speaker 2: You know, Saw also has a pretty consistent track record.
- 1:44:14Speaker 3: 100%. Saw is more consistent, but it's so dour that
- 1:44:18Speaker 3: any laughs you're getting out of that series... really feels
- 1:44:24Speaker 3: limited to a way where it's like.
- 1:44:26Speaker 2: Chucky's fun. I'm never dreading watching Chucky.
- 1:44:29Speaker 3: Totally. Whereas, like, you know, you get to a point
- 1:44:32Speaker 3: where you're like, man, like, more goo traps. You know
- 1:44:35Speaker 3: what I mean? Whereas the pivot that the 10th one
- 1:44:40Speaker 3: did with that one was like, oh, like, this is, like,
- 1:44:44Speaker 3: really interesting. Which is why I wanted to, like... I
- 1:44:49Speaker 3: went in hard for the new Chucky. I was like,
- 1:44:52Speaker 3: this is going to be good. I think this is
- 1:44:54Speaker 3: going to be good.
- 1:44:55Speaker 2: Which new Chucky?
- 1:44:56Speaker 3: The newest one. The remake.
- 1:44:58Speaker 2: Okay.
- 1:44:59Speaker 3: Which I don't really consider because it's not canon. Have
- 1:45:01Speaker 3: you seen it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've seen the Mark
- 1:45:03Speaker 3: Hamill Chucky.
- 1:45:03Speaker 2: Oh, you have?
- 1:45:05Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Interesting. I just haven't seen the... I
- 1:45:08Speaker 3: didn't see this one. I haven't seen this one.
- 1:45:09Speaker 2: You haven't ever seen this one?
- 1:45:11Speaker 3: I haven't ever seen this one. And I've never seen...
- 1:45:14Speaker 3: Cause it was really just when I've watched the first, the,
- 1:45:17Speaker 3: the first one with Nika, I was really disappointed. So
- 1:45:19Speaker 3: I was like, ah, I don't, I don't know. Yeah.
- 1:45:22Speaker 3: But the remake, I was like, oh, okay, maybe it'll
- 1:45:24Speaker 3: be cool. But they'd already done, um, uh, Megan, which
- 1:45:30Speaker 3: is like basically the, the remake of Chucky that I
- 1:45:34Speaker 3: would have wanted. Yeah. It's like fun and dumb. And,
- 1:45:37Speaker 3: and they like, it's like a pivot from the series.
- 1:45:40Speaker 3: That would be a good sister series. Yeah. Yeah. Which
- 1:45:43Speaker 3: is good. I mean, there's two of them.
- 1:45:45Speaker 2: Boner Show, dude.
- 1:45:46Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:45:47Speaker 2: Interesting.
- 1:45:48Speaker 3: So, yeah, like, what would you get? Like, I know
- 1:45:51Speaker 3: we're doing, we're probably going to do the new Chucky, right?
- 1:45:54Speaker 3: The remake? Yeah. Okay. And we'll do a compare and contrast.
- 1:45:59Speaker 3: But so far, like, you know.
- 1:46:01Speaker 2: Of course we're going to. We have to talk about
- 1:46:02Speaker 2: the new one.
- 1:46:03Speaker 3: Yeah. What would you give the, like.
- 1:46:04Speaker 2: It's Return to Child's Play.
- 1:46:06Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:46:07Speaker 2: Would I give the series?
- 1:46:08Speaker 3: Yeah, what would you give the series? I guess this
- 1:46:10Speaker 3: is kind.
- 1:46:10Speaker 2: Of like the end. Well, it's not because the show
- 1:46:13Speaker 2: continues this lore.
- 1:46:14Speaker 3: Yeah, and then we have the other lore.
- 1:46:16Speaker 2: Which I do want to continue. But if we're talking
- 1:46:17Speaker 2: just movies, should we do a ranking? We can do
- 1:46:21Speaker 2: a ranking.
- 1:46:21Speaker 3: Okay, let's do it.
- 1:46:23Speaker 2: Number one is number one.
- 1:46:24Speaker 3: Number one is number one. Number two is number three
- 1:46:27Speaker 3: for me. Number... Wait, no.
- 1:46:31Speaker 2: How are we going to do this?
- 1:46:32Speaker 3: Hold on. I'll do mine first. You do yours next.
- 1:46:34Speaker 2: Let's do it.
- 1:46:35Speaker 3: For me, it's number one, Child's Play. Child's Play 3.
- 1:46:39Speaker 3: Child's Play 2.
- 1:46:40Speaker 2: No.
- 1:46:41Speaker 3: Actually, you know what? No. Yeah, Child's Play 2. Then
- 1:46:44Speaker 3: I'm going to put this one. Okay. And then I'm
- 1:46:48Speaker 3: going to put Bride of Chucky. And then I'm going
- 1:46:50Speaker 3: to put Curse of Chucky.
- 1:46:52Speaker 2: No.
- 1:46:52Speaker 3: Then I'm going to do... No. I'm going to put... Sorry.
- 1:46:55Speaker 2: You didn't do Seed.
- 1:46:58Speaker 3: Fuck Seed 2.
- 1:46:58Speaker 2: Okay.
- 1:46:59Speaker 3: This is what I'm going to do. Number one, Child's Play.
- 1:47:02Speaker 3: Number two, Child's Play 3. Number three, Child's Play 2.
- 1:47:08Speaker 3: Number four.
- 1:47:11Speaker 3: Fuck.
- 1:47:15Speaker 2: This one.
- 1:47:16Speaker 3: I'm going to put this one. I'm going to put... No. Yeah,
- 1:47:19Speaker 3: I am going to put this one. I am going
- 1:47:20Speaker 3: to put this one. Because it's a Cult of Chucky.
- 1:47:23Speaker 3: And then I might do Seed. I think Seed is
- 1:47:26Speaker 3: after that. And then I would put Bride, and last
- 1:47:30Speaker 3: I would put Curse.
- 1:47:33Speaker 2: I feel like you missed one.
- 1:47:35Speaker 3: Did I miss one? You do yours. Okay.
- 1:47:41Speaker 2: So, number one is number one. Then part three... And
- 1:47:50Speaker 2: then part four.
- 1:47:56Speaker 3: Wow. Part four over part two.
- 1:47:58Speaker 2: Yes.
- 1:47:58Speaker 3: Wow.
- 1:47:59Speaker 2: Really?
- 1:47:59Speaker 3: Can you tell me why that?
- 1:48:01Speaker 2: This watching of part two was like a real letdown.
- 1:48:06Speaker 3: Wow. Whoa. Okay. Interesting.
- 1:48:08Speaker 2: So one, three, four. Then I So one, three, four.
- 1:48:16Speaker 2: Then I'm retconning where I'm putting seed, but it's not next.
- 1:48:23Speaker 3: Okay. Okay.
- 1:48:25Speaker 2: Next is a.
- 1:48:32Speaker 3: Curse of Chucky. Okay, okay. So right after Bride is Curse.
- 1:48:38Speaker 2: Yes, after Bride is Curse. Okay, cool. After Curse is
- 1:48:43Speaker 2: part two.
- 1:48:44Speaker 3: Okay, interesting.
- 1:48:46Speaker 2: And then.
- 1:48:50Speaker 3: It's Seed. Okay.
- 1:48:52Speaker 2: And then it's this one.
- 1:48:53Speaker 3: Wow, okay, cool.
- 1:48:54Speaker 2: But I don't, like, I don't, that being all said,
- 1:48:57Speaker 2: I really, like, Seed is, Seed is... is weirdly like
- 1:49:03Speaker 2: my low-key favorite because it's cool i remember liking it
- 1:49:07Speaker 2: now so much it's like it's very interesting like watching
- 1:49:10Speaker 2: it but then but like then i'm like man like
- 1:49:13Speaker 2: glenn glenda is an amazing yeah it's really interesting that
- 1:49:17Speaker 2: exists that that happened and that they took such wild
- 1:49:20Speaker 2: wacky ideas and they're like i don't know i'm just
- 1:49:23Speaker 2: like don mancini dude like big swings.
- 1:49:27Speaker 3: Yeah that's true i i i'm i low-key like seed
- 1:49:32Speaker 3: also very much i'm like do i like it next
- 1:49:35Speaker 3: to um because it is it is combining a bunch
- 1:49:40Speaker 3: of things it is it is feel really good to
- 1:49:44Speaker 3: to see together it's the only one.
- 1:49:46Speaker 2: That i didn't watch with anna and i was like
- 1:49:48Speaker 2: oh you don't need to watch and then i was
- 1:49:49Speaker 2: kind of like she was like well tell me about
- 1:49:51Speaker 2: it because i want to know what the story is
- 1:49:52Speaker 2: and i was telling her what she's sounds really cool
- 1:49:55Speaker 2: and i.
- 1:49:55Speaker 3: Was like it is really cool but also what i
- 1:49:58Speaker 3: liked about the series and watching it with you is
- 1:50:00Speaker 3: that like not only did we have like wildly diverging
- 1:50:03Speaker 3: opinions about it and also like most of our tastes
- 1:50:08Speaker 3: align with the series is of the other ones that
- 1:50:12Speaker 3: i'm like that's a little boring whereas like to hear
- 1:50:15Speaker 3: a list like yours versus a list like mine that's
- 1:50:18Speaker 3: awesome i like that you know yeah um so next
- 1:50:21Speaker 3: is going to be child's play again yeah 2019's child's play.
- 1:50:26Speaker 2: Um well i'm excited i'm interested i'm interested i'm interested
- 1:50:29Speaker 2: there's one part where i saw like because in doing
- 1:50:33Speaker 2: like research i have been looking stuff up i don't
- 1:50:35Speaker 2: know whatever like i don't care but like there's like
- 1:50:38Speaker 2: a Curvy lip. Like, curvy lip moment that happens where, like,
- 1:50:42Speaker 2: the face is stuck that way. That I'm very excited
- 1:50:45Speaker 2: to talk about, dude.
- 1:50:46Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm pretty excited to talk about it as well.
- 1:50:50Speaker 2: So.
- 1:50:50Speaker 3: It.
- 1:50:51Speaker 2: Seems like they want to continue the lore of, like,
- 1:50:54Speaker 2: Chucky making weird fucking faces.
- 1:50:57Speaker 3: You'll see, dude. You'll see. I'm excited for you to
- 1:51:00Speaker 3: watch it, but I'm also, like....
- 1:51:04Speaker 2: You know what, like.
- 1:51:05Speaker 3: Not everybody's Chucky in that one.
- 1:51:07Speaker 2: We've had some... Okay, it's Aubrey Plaza, Chucky. We've had some, like,
- 1:51:16Speaker 2: you know, I mean, I don't know if anything will
- 1:51:19Speaker 2: ever be as bad as the Freddy recreation.
- 1:51:23Speaker 3: You know what's worse than the Freddy recreation? A whole
- 1:51:26Speaker 3: season of Final Destinations. I would much rather watch a
- 1:51:32Speaker 3: Freddy remake, a disappointed Freddy remake.
- 1:51:35Speaker 2: Let's not think about that anymore.
- 1:51:38Speaker 3: But you know what's awesome is that now at the
- 1:51:40Speaker 3: end of that we can do a look at all
- 1:51:45Speaker 3: the remakes too.
- 1:51:46Speaker 2: That's true.
- 1:51:48Speaker 3: But next year will probably be Halloween because we haven't
- 1:51:51Speaker 3: done those yet. I can't wait. See you next week.
- 1:51:54Speaker 2: See you next week.