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  But uh things are good, things look bright
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  in the future.
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  We just want to let the audience know
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  you could tune in on Wednesday to Brandon.
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  He's a hard-hitting guy.
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  Again, non-Sycophan show, just like Monday.
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  And uh you'll know who he is if
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  you didn't know who he is already.
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  And we've had him on before.
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  And I want to welcome back the great
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  Dr.
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  Michael Shoya, who's working very diligently on his
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  next book, and we're not going to tell
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  everybody what it's all about, right?
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  Mike, a big secret.
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  But we do know one thing.
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  This book will not have any shout-outs.
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  So if you're thinking you're going to get
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  a shout out, I don't care who not
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  even me.
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  I don't want one.
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  But people are requesting shout-outs, and it has
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  nothing to do with them, okay?
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  It has nothing to do with the modern
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  days.
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  Mike, welcome back.
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  Thank you, sir.
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  Glad to be here.
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  All right.
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  So what are we going to talk about?
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  Obviously, we're going to talk about the big
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  news of last week.
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  Um the guys left there, the guys I'm
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  talking about, the oligarchs are our oligarchs, not
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  the Ukrainians, not the Russians, the American oligarchs.
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  They were on the plane, Air Force One,
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  everybody went there with President Trump to meet
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  the uh Z from China.
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  On the way there, they had the balls
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  to really order Panda Express, which I thought
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  was like, hey guys, if you have a
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  Chinese food in Asia, it's the real thing.
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  Why would you want Panda Express, right?
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  Might as well want a burger king for
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  that matter.
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  They probably had some extra McDonald's for him
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  anyway.
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  And I also heard, I don't know if
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  you guys know it.
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  Rubio wasn't allowed in the country because they
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  had some sanctions on him about the Uyghurs,
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  so they had to change his last name.
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  They they changed the spelling of his last
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  name so they could break their own laws
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  to let Rubio in.
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  Now, my big thing with this before we
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  get on with the show.
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  I've been around enough receiving lines.
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  When you're the Secretary of State and you're
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  second in line getting handshake, to me, that's
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  a red flag.
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  Now, other people said, well, the Treasury secretary's
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  first because it's all about the economy, Colonel
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  Mike.
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  I don't think so, but I may be
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  wrong.
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  And anyway, if I had to put background
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  music to this show, Brandon and Mike, it
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  would be Golden Slumbers by the Beatles.
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  Because boy, you're going to carry that weight.
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  All right, Brandon, open it up for us.
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  Go ahead.
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  Well, uh, it was uh wonderful to see
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  the um uh the the current president pay
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  tribute to the emperor of the world, uh
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  Xi Jinping, because that's exactly what I feel
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  like I watched was um you know the
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  president had completely crapped the bed in hock
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  to our other colonizer, uh Israel.
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  Uh he crapped the bed economically by going
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  to war in Iran.
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  Uh realized uh oh, I stepped in it
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  now because I have a midterm coming up,
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  and there's no way that my party's gonna
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  stay in power.
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  So he runs over to X to try
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  to, you know, bail him out.
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  And uh G was more than happy to
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  get the free press and uh, you know,
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  have the uh the image of him sort
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  of being the calm, cool, collected uh leader.
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  And uh this has certainly been the image
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  he's been projecting for since the Iran War
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  began, that he's the responsible adult in the
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  room, and Trump is the mad king.
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  Um and uh I think that uh the
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  president is was desperate to get any deal,
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  any kind of a deal, and he brought
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  with him the people, uh the broligarchs and
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  the banksters.
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  Uh he brought them with him, and that
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  they all wanted to get deals too.
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  And uh I don't know what exactly the
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  president got specifically because there's a lot of
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  things even now that are not being detailed
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  very well, but we can assume that they
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  there was discussions at least about um allowing
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  for the sale or the the sharing of
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  uh or the bringing into the United States
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  of certain Chinese goods, uh certain trade policies.
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  Another million, another million Chinese students, maybe with
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  His.
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  Yes, I'm sure that uh that's part of
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  the equation.
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  Uh, but clearly the Broligarchs got something out
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  of it.
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  The banksters were looking for something out of
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  it.
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  The bottom line boys of the Trump family
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  must have got a little bit of a.
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  Well, they were on the plane, they pulled
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  the Hunter Biden, they went with Daddy to
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  uh Beijing and uh met Big Daddy Z.
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  Um and uh so to me, I think
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  what you're witnessing is the the this trip
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  in in China, whatever happens, and I think
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  some good might come out of it.
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  I'm not trying to be too negative, but
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  that'll be short and medium term.
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  The long term is it's China's game.
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  This is all part of the the pivot
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  in the world system away from the American-led
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  order into a Chinese-led one.
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  Uh so let's do a little crosstalk here.
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  We're gonna go to Dr.
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  Michael Shoyu now.
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  Michael, what do you say?
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  Well, I would disagree a little bit on
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  the fact that there is no American order.
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  Well, except war.
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  The American-led chaos.
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  How about we say that?
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  Yeah.
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  The only thing, the only American order there
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  has been in this world since 1945 has
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  Been in this world since 1945 has been
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  been America starting wars that are unnecessary and
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  America starting wars that are unnecessary and losing
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  losing them.
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  them.
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  And triggering recessions.
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  And triggering recessions, and triggering recessions and cutting
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  And triggering recessions and cutting civil liberties.
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  civil liberties.
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  And you you name it, it's done it.
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  And you you name it, it's done it.
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  And we're just in a such a terrible
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  And we're just in a such a terrible
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  position there.
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  position there.
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  I I thought it was exactly the wrong
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  I thought it was exactly the wrong time
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  time to do this, but what do I
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  to do this, but what do I know?
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  know?
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  I thought he just looked like he was
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  I thought he just looked like he was
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  going there to kiss the Chinese ass.
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  going there to kiss the Chinese ass.
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  That's exactly right.
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  That's exactly right.
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  It's exactly right.
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  It's exactly right.
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  I agree completely.
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  I agree completely.
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  I agree completely.
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  I agree completely.
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  Well, we got a commercial break from Radio
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  Shack.
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  If we were still in business, you could
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  build drones for Iran like Iran's building drones
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  for themselves.
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  Yeah, it's yeah, I agree.
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  I agree, Colonel.
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  I Dr.
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  Mike, that uh maybe maybe the order is
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  the wrong word, but whatever leadership role America
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  once enjoyed has finally been ceded.
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  Uh sunset.
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  They call it sunset.
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  Isn't that the word Brandon and Mike Sunset?
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  Yes.
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  Well, my great-grandfather was uh British uh intelligence
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  in the war, and uh he used to
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  say that the sun never set on the
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  British Empire, but unfortunately he lived long enough
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  to see it set.
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  And so um, you know, I think the
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  same thing is happening here with the U.S.
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  Empire, and maybe it's a good thing.
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  I mean, uh, you know, maybe this is
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  ultimately gonna work out well for us because
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  we can finally focus on ourselves and maybe
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  get back to some sort of republic, you
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  know, uh government, republican form of government, but
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  who knows?
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  Dr.
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  Mike.
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  Well, I think that's exactly um the good
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  that could come out of it.
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  Is that people will begin to understand that
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  there's nothing left here?
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  We we have no values.
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  We have a military that can't win a
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  war and yet we pour in increasing amounts
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  of money into it uh every year.
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  We have presidents who uh don't seem cognizant
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  of the fact that their their only job
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  is to protect the United States and its
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  people.
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  Uh there's a whole list of things that
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  people need to be reacquainted with.
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  We should speak here in the in the
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  Valley of Virginia with a governor that's absolutely
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  uh uh a wacky uh lunatic.
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  She might be our next vice president.
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  She might be the next president.
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  Who knows?
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  But I mean, it's it Americans are living
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  a life, and I think they're more prescient
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  than their uh presidents and their congressmen and
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  the rest of them about how bad things
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  are.
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  Especially unfortunately for people who won't be around
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  much longer like me.
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  At 73, the world is almost unrecognizable to
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  me.
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  Isn't that true, Mike?
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  It really is, right?
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  Yeah.
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  But it's uh you know, you gotta I
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  guess you gotta keep a little bit of
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  optimism, but I I just thought that this
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  was uh whoever planned this thing was a
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  horse's ass.
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  Well, they didn't plan it.
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  That's the whole thing.
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  I guess that's right.
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  I guess it's so so Brandon.
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  Do you have some insight that we don't
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  know about?
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  Is there something that happened that this was
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  a last-minute save you face for Iran kind
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  of trick?
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  Well, I no, I don't have any insight
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  into this, but I think you mentioned something
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  that I think kind of feeds into my
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  theory, which was how the receiving line was
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  all mismanaged.
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  Um, you know, I think I think Stephen
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  Miller, the deputy chief of staff for the
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  White House was given a prime billing in
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  the receiving line, which is odd.
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  Uh I think he was ahead of one
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  of the cabinet secretaries, even, which I don't
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  think is normal.
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  But I think that that that shows you
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  how poorly planned this was.
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  We know that the president was supposed to
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  meet um with Xi Jinping, I think like
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  back in April, maybe, or or maybe you
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  know, I think it was April originally scheduled,
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  and then obviously the war in Iran and
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  the counter-blockade uh of the Strait of Hormuz,
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  which is just an exercise and absurdity, um,
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  you know, ultimately forced them to delay that.
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  Um, but I was told it was delayed
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  indefinitely, and then basically Trump really wanted it
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  to happen.
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  I mean, he was desperate to have the
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  image of him in the Great Hall with
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  Xi Jinping.
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  Um, and that alone tells you A, this
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  was a poorly conceived event, and B that
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  the president was at a horrible hand he
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  was playing, and he should have never gone
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  there if he was interested in being perceived
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  as strong.
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  Um, but he wasn't interested in that.
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  He was desperate.
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  And anybody I would like to say this
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  to the audience at this point, like since
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  you mentioned it.
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  There's a lot of people that have been
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  around diplomacy, foreign affairs, and so on, you
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  know, who probably listened to this show, and
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  I think they'll agree with you and I.
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  It's really an importance where you are in
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  the line.
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  And all these things are pre-planned in advance.
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  The dinner tables, you know, the lineup, the
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  greeting.
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  And remember, Z went to the airport to
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  to meet with the Iranian, but he didn't
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  go there to meet with Bush.
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  Now that's a little bit difficult for me
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  to swallow, okay, to be honest with you.
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  You mean Trump?
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  Yeah.
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  I'm sorry, but which wrong.
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  I'm sorry, why am I thinking?
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  Well, it's no, it's easy because now Trump
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  has become George W.
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  Bush, you know, third term.
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  So yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Well, you know, the Chinese may have their
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  own system of doing that.
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  They they may the per the people who
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  come up first in line are those who
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  take the most most uh graft from them.
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  Trump probably gets the most, and then maybe
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  for some reason uh the guy that was
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  out of my secretary number two, Mike.
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  Yeah, no, maybe he was there to sell
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  some more of those good bonds that we
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  have, and what it was for sure.
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  That's for sure.
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  They were begging the Chinese to to please
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  keep buying our debt because the Chinese have
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  been selling off uh you know a lot
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  of a lot of it.
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  Now they weren't the biggest purchaser, but we
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  need it because look at the the what
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  was it um in 24 months when the
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  next 24 months we have to turn over,
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  I think 30 plus trillion dollars of debt.
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  Um how is that gonna happen?
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  Who's gonna buy our debt?
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  The Japanese have been buying our debt the
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  most, and they've been selling it like you
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  know the Iranians, they got all the money.
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  Wouldn't that be wouldn't that be a thing?
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  Wow, what a you know what they would
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  do?
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  They'll like they'll make another Lego YouTube of
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  us of them buying the debt, right?
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  I've never seen anything like this before.
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  I mean, thank God it's not you know
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  U.S.
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  troops being killed and maimed like they were.
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  You know, that is that is a blessing.
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  Um I I do believe that the casualties
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  were higher than the five people or whatever
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  they're claiming, but thank God it's not the
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  thousands and tens of thousands that we saw
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  in Vietnam and Iraq and Afghanistan.
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  That's a blessing.
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  Um, but ultimately the strategic level impact is
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  clear.
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  Uh not only is it a victory for
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  Iran and a reshaping of the Middle East
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  forever, but it's this is also uh having
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  real red you know resounding effects throughout the
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  entire international system, and the power and wealth
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  Throughout the entire international system, and the power
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  is clearly now shifting from North America to
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  and wealth is clearly now shifting from North
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  China.
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  America to China.
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  I mean, it's just very obvious to me.
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  I mean, it's just very obvious to me.
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  Um, and nobody in DC can well, behind
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  Um, and nobody in DC can admit well,
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  behind the scenes they'll admit that, and that's
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  the scenes they'll admit that, and that's why
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  why they're all lining up to make deals.
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  they're all lining up to make deals.
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  But but publicly, you're not allowed to say
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  But but publicly, you're not allowed to say
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  that.
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  that.
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  I was I was called some really hard,
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  I was I was called some really hard,
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  harsh uh uh names the last couple weeks
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  harsh uh uh names the last couple weeks
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  because I've been saying that I'm you know
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  because I've been saying that I'm you know
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  the Chinese are now the world leader um
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  the Chinese are now the world leader um
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  people who are well it's their century coming
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  people who are well it's the century.
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  up, Brandon.
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  It's their century.
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  We're gonna this is sunset.
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  It's our time.
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  There's no flip around.
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  This thing about we need 5,000 data centers
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  to compete with their 400.
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  Right.
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  You know, that's a lot of stuff.
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  One of the highlights of this was he
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  brought the chief ass flicker with him from
• 14:46
  Fox News and got the interview.
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  What was his name?
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  Fawn Hannity.
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  And Trump was in there.
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  Yeah, chief ass liquor.
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  I mean, the only vanity, pawn vanity, you
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  mean.
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  The only better ass liquid would have been
• 14:59
  the Israeli ass liquor.
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  What's his name?
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  Uh uh Lavin.
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  Locke Mavin.
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  Locke.
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  Yes.
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  Well, you know, and it's funny you bring
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  this up, Colonel Mike, because I don't know
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  if you happen to see it, but Brett
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  Bear had a random act of journalism, and
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• 15:21
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• 15:23
  Shanghai and Shenzhen, like these are not like
• 15:26
  anything in the United States.
• 15:29
  They are beyond what we have, you know,
• 15:31
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• 15:48
  Places like Shanghai and Shenzhen and even you
• 15:50
  know these other third-tier cities are more technologically
• 15:53
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• 15:56
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• 16:02
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  Uh, and it makes anything in our cities
• 16:07
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  It's it's you mean they didn't have the
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  Tanzetti's like Oakland, the great Oakland.
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• 16:29
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• 16:31
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• 16:33
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• 16:40
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• 16:44
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• 16:46
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• 16:48
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• 16:51
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• 16:53
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• 16:55
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• 16:57
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  Go ahead.
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  Well, I I was just going to say
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  uh in China and in Taiwan.
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  The picture of Jimmy Carter has Dong Xiaoping
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  And then of course the picture is the
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  And then of course the picture is the
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  It's a real picture of him bowing to
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  It's a real picture of him bowing to
• 21:25
  Xi.
• 21:25
  Xi.
• 21:27
  So uh 1980 versus 2024.
• 21:27
  So uh 1980 versus 2026, Dan writes, a
• 21:30
  lot can happen in a few decades.
• 21:33
  So this is where we are.
• 21:35
  And if he's not bowing to Xi, Trump
• 21:37
  is pulling out the chair in the White
• 21:39
  House for Netanyahu.
• 21:42
  So America First is um, I guess um
• 21:44
  relative term.
• 21:48
  Well, it may be that the G is
• 21:51
  just hiding his fear of the way we're
• 21:53
  waiting of the way.
• 21:57
  We're arming and um building uh military structures
• 22:00
  on those islands in the uh in the
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  Pacific.
• 22:05
  Mike, remember when we were kids, we had
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  the balls of wood planes we used to
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  fly with metal piece in the the in
• 22:11
  the nose, so it at least landed correctly.
• 22:13
  I mean, it's really a joke.
• 22:14
  Now let me ask you did was there
• 22:16
  any conversation that anybody get a leak out
• 22:17
  here?
• 22:19
  Was there any conversation of maybe a casino
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  in Macau for Adelson?
• 22:23
  Oh, I am sure.
• 22:25
  I'm sure that's on the table.
• 22:26
  Look, if there's one thing we know, it's
• 22:29
  that uh our our donors here in the
• 22:32
  the Republican Party uh love to complain about
• 22:34
  China and and have politicians complain about China,
• 22:37
  but they turn around and cut great deals,
• 22:40
  notably in Macau, which is really a wonderful
• 22:43
  gambling capital if you're looking for fun.
• 22:46
  Um, you know, so this is uh do
• 22:48
  as I say, not as I do, type
• 22:50
  of thing for the American political class and
• 22:52
  uh an economic elite.
• 22:55
  Maybe maybe maybe uh Matt Niedo can run
• 22:57
  and uh they say he's running now, and
• 22:59
  then maybe he can show up there and
• 23:01
  be a uh you know, run the tables
• 23:02
  or something.
• 23:04
  A croupier, a croupier, Mike.
• 23:06
  It is very interesting, though.
• 23:08
  Um, you know, I've been speaking a lot
• 23:11
  to our friend Michael Jan, and Michael has
• 23:13
  a really fascinating theory that I'll share here,
• 23:15
  and those who listen to my show uh
• 23:17
  on on our network uh could probably heard
• 23:19
  this before.
• 23:22
  But um Michael's convinced that the true power
• 23:24
  centers in the world geopolitically are now in
• 23:27
  Tel Aviv and Beijing, and he thinks that
• 23:30
  the shadow war uh for the future is
• 23:32
  not between Washington and Beijing, it's between Tel
• 23:35
  Aviv and Beijing.
• 23:38
  Um if you look at the way, particularly
• 23:41
  under Trump, the United States is ping ponging
• 23:43
  between Israel and China.
• 23:46
  Uh, we don't look like we're in control.
• 23:47
  We don't look like we are the the
• 23:49
  undisputed hegemon.
• 23:51
  We look like we are looking for the
• 23:53
  better deal from the potential imperial capital, uh,
• 23:56
  either in Tel Aviv or Beijing.
• 24:00
  Well, I what what do I miss here,
• 24:02
  Brandon?
• 24:04
  Why would uh the Chinese want to get
• 24:06
  involved with the Israelis?
• 24:09
  Well, I don't think they do.
• 24:10
  I I I think on some level they
• 24:12
  might want to cut deals for access to
• 24:14
  Israeli um Silicon Valley or the Hurst of
• 24:16
  the United States.
• 24:18
  But that's mostly stuff that the Israelis steal
• 24:19
  from us.
• 24:21
  That's mostly stuff that the Israelis steal from
• 24:22
  us, and so in a way, China stealing
• 24:24
  it from the Israelis is just sort of
• 24:25
  the circle of life, isn't it?
• 24:27
  Yes, would you agree?
• 24:30
  That's right.
• 24:31
  Would both of you guys agree that Israeli
• 24:33
  has a better partner with India?
• 24:35
  Because he's an ass kiss at uh you
• 24:36
  next to the I think that's such a
• 24:38
  silly partnership.
• 24:39
  I th I don't even understand.
• 24:41
  I think that's a that's an act of
• 24:42
  desperation on the part of the Israelis.
• 24:45
  Uh, I think the Israelis are very worried
• 24:46
  about what's coming up in the political system
• 24:48
  here in the United States.
• 24:50
  You have in both parties young people who
• 24:53
  are at the very least skeptical of the
• 24:55
  Israeli alliance, and I think that the the
• 24:57
  guys in Tel Aviv understand no amount of
• 25:00
  money is going to change that.
• 25:02
  And I think this is part of the
• 25:04
  reason why they're so on board with the
• 25:07
  establishment of the control grid uh here in
• 25:09
  the United States is because they they very
• 25:11
  badly want to ensure the US is vassalized
• 25:13
  toward Israel.
• 25:15
  Um, and so you know, I I think
• 25:18
  that this India thing, this fixation with India,
• 25:20
  I think is part of um is part
• 25:23
  of a program of desperation in Tel Aviv
• 25:25
  itself where they know that they're losing friends
• 25:28
  and allies everywhere.
• 25:30
  Um not to mention all their infrastructure.
• 25:33
  Oh, I mean, look, the the untold story,
• 25:35
  and Dr.
• 25:36
  Mike, I'd love to hear, because you probably
• 25:38
  have a better insight on this than I
• 25:40
  do, but what I have heard and what
• 25:42
  I have seen, the limited things I have
• 25:44
  seen, uh, notably in the foreign press, because
• 25:46
  it's never in the Western press, um, is
• 25:48
  that Israel is flattened.
• 25:50
  Israel has been, you know, and by the
• 25:53
  way, the the the top tier people in
• 25:55
  Israel, um, you know, the the professionals who
• 25:58
  make the economy work there, they're all fleeing.
• 26:01
  They're fleeing to Cyprus and and they're fleeing
• 26:02
  to England and and they're fleeing to northern
• 26:04
  Europe and they're fleeing to Canada and the
• 26:06
  United States.
• 26:08
  Even some are um some are follow are
• 26:11
  are moving back to Georgia and uh, you
• 26:13
  know, the old Soviet states.
• 26:16
  So and some of those Ukrainian oligarchs, I
• 26:18
  am told, it's so bad right now, they
• 26:20
  fled with our money from Ukraine to Israel.
• 26:23
  They're trying to go back to Ukraine now
• 26:24
  with our money.
• 26:26
  So we had a guest on Brandon.
• 26:29
  We had a guest on one of the
• 26:31
  two Mike shows who spoke about how many
• 26:33
  Jews are coming into uh Georgia with suitcases
• 26:36
  of hundred dollar US hundred dollar bills, yeah,
• 26:38
  and and bribing the uh inspection guys to
• 26:40
  let the money go, you know, throwing a
• 26:42
  few few packets of a hundredths at them,
• 26:44
  and they're buying up all kinds of real
• 26:47
  estate and stuff in Batumi.
• 26:49
  So I mean it's it's it's a true
• 26:50
  story.
• 26:52
  And they're going to Patagonia too, by the
• 26:53
  way.
• 26:54
  So I was told Patagonia and they're going
• 26:55
  to Crete.
• 26:58
  And uh my family in Malta, uh, my
• 27:00
  wife's family, my wife's mother is from Malta,
• 27:03
  and her brothers and family are still there
• 27:05
  in Valletta and Slima, and uh apparently a
• 27:08
  lot of Israelis are showing up to Malta
• 27:10
  as well.
• 27:14
  Well, you you know, if this catastrophe doesn't
• 27:16
  for us doesn't end up in wiping Israel
• 27:18
  out.
• 27:21
  It's gonna be hell to pay.
• 27:23
  Because we're either going to take all those
• 27:25
  damn refugees, or if they don't have to
• 27:27
  leave, we're gonna have to rebuild the place
• 27:28
  for them.
• 27:30
  Michael, don't say that, Michael, because the last
• 27:33
  time the people took refugees, Israeli refugees in,
• 27:36
  they lost their country and now it's decimated.
• 27:39
  It was called I will be honest with
• 27:40
  you though.
• 27:41
  I would love to see a lot of
• 27:44
  of these these uh very highly torqued Israelis
• 27:47
  come to the United States and become taxpayers.
• 27:50
  Uh you know, because ultimately they've been receiving
• 27:52
  so much tax dollars from us.
• 27:54
  I think it would be great for them
• 27:56
  to come and actually contribute to the economy
• 27:58
  here once, you know, for once.
• 28:00
  And how do they contribute in it?
• 28:00
  But how do they contribute in it?
• 28:02
  You know, they contribute by making money, but
• 28:02
  You know, they contribute by making money, but
• 28:03
  what do they do with the money?
• 28:03
  what do they do with the money?
• 28:05
  They under they under the under uh what
• 28:05
  They understand the under uh what do you
• 28:06
  do you call it?
• 28:06
  call it?
• 28:08
  Under undermine the constitutional system.
• 28:08
  Under undermine the constitution political system.
• 28:12
  Well, I I don't think that's that's exclusive
• 28:12
  Well, I I don't think that's that's exclusive
• 28:14
  though to the to the Jewish Americans.
• 28:14
  though to the to the Jewish Americans.
• 28:16
  I think No, I don't think so either,
• 28:16
  I think no, I don't think so either.
• 28:18
  but I mean we're paying for our self
• 28:18
  But I mean we're paying for our self-destruction.
• 28:20
  destruction.
• 28:21
  I know that.
• 28:21
  I know that.
• 28:22
  Yeah, I know.
• 28:22
  Yeah, I know technically right.
• 28:23
  I mean technically right.
• 28:25
  If you want to hear, here's a funny
• 28:25
  If you want to hear, here's a funny
• 28:26
  quip.
• 28:26
  quip.
• 28:26
  I was on I was on with your
• 28:26
  I was on I was on with your
• 28:28
  friend John Kiriaku uh last.
• 28:29
  friend John Kiriaku uh last week and his
• 28:31
  show, his new show, and he he brought
• 28:33
  up something that he keeps getting asked from
• 28:35
  his friends and family in Greece, uh, which
• 28:38
  is you know, is Turkey going to leave
• 28:40
  NATO?
• 28:42
  Um, and I said no, and they said,
• 28:44
  Well, and and so Kiriaku asked me that,
• 28:46
  and he said, Do you also think the
• 28:48
  US is gonna leave NATO?
• 28:50
  And I said, Look, the only reason the
• 28:51
  U.S.
• 28:52
  now is gonna leave NATO is because we
• 28:54
  want Israel to attack Turkey without it affecting
• 28:56
  uh the Article 5.
• 28:58
  Um, you know, this is this is where
• 28:59
  we're at.
• 29:00
  We're funding our own destruction, we're funding the
• 29:03
  destruction of our allies.
• 29:05
  Um, so I I don't, you know, I'd
• 29:08
  the whole the whole system is corrupt and
• 29:10
  perverse coming out of DC.
• 29:13
  And I would love to see it, you
• 29:15
  know, kind of flattened here.
• 29:16
  Uh, you know.
• 29:18
  I'd like to get Europeans try to govern
• 29:20
  themselves for for a while.
• 29:22
  Well, when they keep saying they want to
• 29:24
  get their own army, I keep saying, don't
• 29:25
  threaten me with a good time, you know.
• 29:28
  Finally, someone the Americans can be as long
• 29:31
  as Article 5 is off the table.
• 29:34
  I am all for Europe building its own
• 29:35
  army, and if they want to go pick
• 29:37
  a fight with Russia, good luck and God
• 29:38
  bless.
• 29:40
  Yeah, you know.
• 29:41
  You know, that's one of the most amazing
• 29:44
  things in American history that the Congress would
• 29:46
  have approved uh uh a treaty that took
• 29:49
  war making out of our own hands.
• 29:52
  Well, it's it's just extraordinary.
• 29:55
  Well, remember in the Korean War, Congress let
• 29:57
  and in Desert Storm, Congress let the UN
• 30:00
  dictate whether we were going to go to
• 30:03
  war or not in Korea and Desert Storm.
• 30:05
  And also, but also in Korea, we had
• 30:07
  Harry Truman uh sat down by himself and
• 30:10
  talked to himself and figured out they had
• 30:12
  a consensus that we should go to war
• 30:14
  in Korea.
• 30:16
  It was in between uh glasses of whiskey
• 30:19
  and little bourbon and then the strongest question
• 30:22
  to pose to you two guys.
• 30:25
  Well, on uh the question is I knew
• 30:28
  I saw a picture a while back of
• 30:30
  the Sultan, you know, Erdogan.
• 30:33
  He got a big medal from the Israeli
• 30:35
  government at one point.
• 30:36
  Are you do you mean to tell me
• 30:38
  that that affair is over, the the love
• 30:40
  story's over between?
• 30:42
  No, as long as those pipelines are being
• 30:45
  built and uh the oil and natural gas
• 30:48
  are flowing between uh Central Asia and the
• 30:50
  Middle East and Europe via Turkish pipelines, Turkey
• 30:53
  will always love Israel, even if they are
• 30:56
  act like they do publicly.
• 30:59
  Havenaghila.
• 31:00
  Havana Giler to one.
• 31:02
  I heard on on the radio last week,
• 31:04
  and I don't know if it's true, but
• 31:07
  they said uh the senator from Texas, Cruz,
• 31:10
  was named one of the main defenders of
• 31:12
  Israel, which is an annual award, and he
• 31:15
  got a million dollar check.
• 31:17
  Mike, is that in the old testament or
• 31:19
  the new testament?
• 31:23
  You know, I have I have trouble with
• 31:25
  remembering w whether General Lee is in the
• 31:27
  old or new testament myself.
• 31:30
  Yeah, it's you know, this whole the the
• 31:32
  whole situation, you know, the end of the
• 31:34
  cold war was the greatest opportunity for America.
• 31:36
  This is what Papuchan was saying at the
• 31:37
  time.
• 31:39
  And Gene, actually, it was not just Papuchan.
• 31:41
  If you remember, Jean Kirkpatrick also was saying
• 31:44
  she was siding with Buchanan.
• 31:46
  Uh, people forget this because they assume she
• 31:48
  was a neocon, but she was with Buchanan
• 31:49
  on this.
• 31:51
  But after the Cold War, that was the
• 31:53
  greatest time to reset relations with everything and
• 31:56
  to basically make America a normal country in
• 31:58
  a normal time.
• 32:00
  And unfortunately, Charles Krotthammer and Irving and Bill
• 32:04
  Crystal and the neoconservatives won that argument, and
• 32:07
  they basically turned us into a permanent police
• 32:11
  state or on the pathway to becoming that.
• 32:14
  And here we are in 2026.
• 32:16
  And, you know, I I was just reporting
• 32:18
  or reminding audiences, uh, you know, all the
• 32:21
  data center, this data center thing specifically in
• 32:23
  Utah.
• 32:25
  Um, there's a pair of very very funny
• 32:28
  young girls who are leading the charge in
• 32:30
  Utah against uh uh Mr.
• 32:33
  Wonderful uh Kevin O'Leary's uh data center.
• 32:36
  But what people don't seem to understand, I
• 32:38
  think Tucker touched on this in his recent
• 32:39
  episodes.
• 32:41
  What people don't seem to understand are that
• 32:43
  the data centers have nothing really to do
• 32:45
  with artificial intelligence from an economic perspective, they
• 32:47
  have everything to do with providing more bandwidth
• 32:49
  to the deep state for them to conduct
• 32:51
  surveillance operations against the United States and and
• 32:54
  our people.
• 32:56
  And I just want to remind audiences there
• 32:58
  is a facility in Utah, the Utah Data
• 33:00
  Center, it was once codenamed Darkstar, and I
• 33:02
  was one of the guys who broke the
• 33:04
  story about a decade ago.
• 33:06
  Um that's the largest server farm the U.S.
• 33:09
  government has, and it is basically, as it
• 33:12
  was explained to me years ago, it's basically
• 33:15
  the where the NSA is taking all of
• 33:17
  our data that they collect and they're storing
• 33:20
  it because it's so much they can't go
• 33:23
  through it all, but eventually they think between
• 33:25
  artificial intelligence, cloud computing, and quantum computing, that
• 33:28
  eventually they will have the ability to comb
• 33:31
  through all of that collected data since 2001
• 33:33
  and figure out who's a criminal, who's not,
• 33:36
  who's a political threat, and who's not, and
• 33:39
  they're gonna be able to use these uh
• 33:42
  data analytics uh to basically create an electronic
• 33:44
  profile of every living American from the last
• 33:47
  30 years.
• 33:50
  And um, that's not China doing that.
• 33:53
  That's our own people.
• 33:54
  That's our Twitter.
• 33:55
  What's the address of that location, 1984?
• 34:00
  Well, you it's you know, it's it's just
• 34:02
  funny to me because everybody's missing the story
• 34:04
  about what these data centers are.
• 34:06
  The data centers are not about economic growth,
• 34:08
  they're not.
• 34:10
  No, they're about they're about providing support and
• 34:13
  infrastructure to the war machine that is now
• 34:16
  being turned inward.
• 34:18
  It's not being used to fight our our
• 34:20
  America's adversaries, it's not being used on China,
• 34:22
  it's not being used on it, it's being
• 34:23
  used on weekly.
• 34:26
  Look at this.
• 34:26
  Look at this.
• 34:27
  They have to pass the county regulations and
• 34:30
  so on, you know, all these other things.
• 34:33
  And then you got to pass the state.
• 34:35
  And you you never hear of the county
• 34:37
  having these hearings, very few, where uh we'd
• 34:40
  like to get your input.
• 34:42
  You're probably gonna have bad water, you're probably
• 34:44
  gonna have electricity rates jump, you're probably gonna
• 34:46
  have a lot of noise.
• 34:49
  Are you in favor of that?
• 34:50
  And uh naturally the people are gonna say
• 34:51
  no.
• 34:52
  But God forbid a guy should open up,
• 34:55
  let's say, let's say God forbid a guy
• 34:57
  should open up a uh truck stop, or
• 35:00
  a guy should open up a repair shop
• 35:00
  Up a repair shop for diesel engines or
• 35:02
  for diesel engines or you know, some some
• 35:02
  you know, some some really mom and pop
• 35:04
  really mom and pop kind of business or
• 35:04
  kind of business or franchise where you'll hire
• 35:07
  franchise where you'll hire a hundred people.
• 35:07
  a hundred people.
• 35:09
  Uh they would make a guy jump through
• 35:09
  Uh they would make a guy jump through
• 35:11
  hoops, fire, you know, get fired on by
• 35:11
  hoops, fire, you know, get fired on by
• 35:14
  rockets uh just to get a permit, or
• 35:14
  rockets uh just to get a permit, or
• 35:16
  just to give them the license and then
• 35:16
  just to give them the licensing, and then
• 35:18
  say we want to make sure that you'll
• 35:18
  say we want to make sure that you'll
• 35:21
  create a hundred jobs to pay these taxes.
• 35:21
  create a hundred jobs to pay these taxes.
• 35:23
  Most of these data centers are not even
• 35:23
  Most of these data centers are not even
• 35:25
  going to have to pay any taxes.
• 35:25
  going to have to pay any taxes.
• 35:27
  No.
• 35:27
  No, so no.
• 35:27
  So no.
• 35:28
  You're telling me that these elected events.
• 35:28
  You're telling me that these elected officials from
• 35:31
  county level up are not getting a dime.
• 35:35
  Nobody's making anything.
• 35:37
  That's the thing.
• 35:37
  So there's I wish I could find the
• 35:38
  story.
• 35:39
  There was a township in Michigan that recently
• 35:42
  was faced with the prospects of the it's
• 35:45
  it would be it will be the largest
• 35:48
  single construction project in all of Michigan history
• 35:50
  if it if it goes forward.
• 35:53
  It's a data center, it's 545 or 575
• 35:56
  acres.
• 35:58
  It's going to use in one year, it
• 36:00
  will use the equivalent of a mil of
• 36:03
  elect of the electricity that one million homes
• 36:05
  over 10 years would use.
• 36:07
  And they want to every year.
• 36:09
  Yes.
• 36:09
  And they want to put it, they want
• 36:11
  to put it in this small township in
• 36:13
  Michigan.
• 36:14
  The local townspeople had a vote on it
• 36:16
  with their towns council, and they just said
• 36:18
  no.
• 36:20
  And the town counselors, I think it was
• 36:23
  five, I think it was four to one,
• 36:26
  said they didn't want it, but now they're
• 36:28
  it's it's open AI and um uh uh
• 36:31
  Larry Ellison's group, Oracle.
• 36:34
  It's a joint open AI Oracle venture.
• 36:37
  They lost the vote in the Township Council,
• 36:39
  and yet the project is still going forward.
• 36:42
  See, so you don't have you're not represented
• 36:43
  by government.
• 36:45
  You you you don't have any power, you
• 36:46
  have no no say so.
• 36:48
  It's happening and what's really bugging me, Brandon.
• 36:51
  It's happening too fast in too many cities
• 36:53
  in too many states.
• 36:55
  Yes, and this is the key.
• 36:56
  I don't mean to cut you off.
• 36:57
  But the key thing here, the the really
• 36:59
  fascinating part of the story is Larry Ellison's
• 37:01
  group basically said, we don't care that we
• 37:03
  lost uh the vote.
• 37:06
  We have so much money.
• 37:07
  You sue us.
• 37:08
  We're gonna go ahead anyway and start the
• 37:09
  project.
• 37:10
  You go ahead and sue us, and we're
• 37:12
  just gonna basically outmaneuver you and outfund you
• 37:14
  with our massive amount of money.
• 37:16
  And I would remind the audience, open AI
• 37:20
  and uh this other one, um uh Oracle
• 37:23
  are part of President Trump's Stargate project uh
• 37:27
  on AI and uh basically government-backed AI, partnering
• 37:30
  with Larry Ellison and Sam Altman and them.
• 37:34
  So this is really nightmarish.
• 37:36
  Yeah, I'll have to quote Philippe de Bastard.
• 37:38
  He was a philosopher, 1736 in France, who
• 37:41
  said if you run out of pitchforks, don't
• 37:43
  blame me.
• 37:45
  Right, right.
• 37:47
  Well, apparently that's another story, Dr.
• 37:49
  Mike and Colonel Mike, is that apparently the
• 37:51
  one percent in the United States are now
• 37:54
  openly discussing their fears with their friends and
• 37:57
  with President Trump of uh uh populist uprising
• 38:00
  against the wealthy in the United States.
• 38:04
  And uh we have a guy we both
• 38:05
  know mutually, Mike and I, and I think
• 38:06
  you do too.
• 38:08
  His name is Jack Maxie, and he's been
• 38:09
  talking about it a lot lately.
• 38:11
  You can see Jack Maxie on it, and
• 38:12
  you could listen to him on two mics,
• 38:14
  and we have him uh he's on John
• 38:15
  B.
• 38:16
  Wells, and I think Brandon, you had him
• 38:18
  on, didn't you have yeah?
• 38:19
  I had him on in uh February, and
• 38:21
  uh Oh, that's old news.
• 38:23
  You gotta get him up.
• 38:24
  Well, I it's he's hard to get these
• 38:25
  days.
• 38:26
  And uh I have a special code.
• 38:29
  I I know how to I ping them
• 38:31
  off that uh Starlink.
• 38:33
  He and I did a three-hour episode for
• 38:34
  my show.
• 38:35
  I never do three hours, but he he
• 38:37
  I had to split it up in two
• 38:38
  parts.
• 38:39
  It was really interesting.
• 38:40
  But he's you know, he's got a lot
• 38:42
  of good insights.
• 38:43
  Uh the the country we listen, we we
• 38:46
  we've lost the country, and uh if we
• 38:49
  don't try to get it back, we are
• 38:51
  going to you know live in this dystopia.
• 38:54
  Forget about China, forget about Iran.
• 38:57
  Who cares?
• 38:58
  I mean, we're losing America.
• 38:59
  We are 1984.
• 39:00
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• 42:11
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• 42:13
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  Loud, it's a lot different than a lot
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• 42:27
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  Kool-Aid Bob.
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  You know what I mean?
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  There's just too many of you.
• 42:34
  And for you guys that listen to that
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• 42:39
  Okay.
• 42:40
  Uh keep keep sucking on your thumb.
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  You know, don't forget, trust that plan, but
• 42:44
  I trust the flannel it tastes a lot
• 42:46
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  Go ahead.
• 42:48
  Brandon Mike, take it away.
• 42:50
  Real men don't eat flann.
• 42:55
  Something I was always told as a kid.
• 42:59
  I like any kind of dessert.
• 43:01
  Don't worry about it.
• 43:05
  Michael Shawy, you were talking about the Saint
• 43:07
  on when we were on commercial break.
• 43:10
  Yes, you were talking about Saint FDR.
• 43:12
  There's a new book out about the Saint.
• 43:14
  Well, yeah, yes.
• 43:15
  Well, it's a new to me, and I
• 43:17
  think it was published in last year.
• 43:19
  Um take a look here.
• 43:22
  But it's a very recent book, and it's
• 43:23
  got by a guy who who was a
• 43:25
  noted authority on the New Deal and on
• 43:27
  the whole era of FDR.
• 43:30
  It was published by the Open Universe in
• 43:31
  Chicago.
• 43:33
  November 2025 is when it comes to it.
• 43:35
  2025.
• 43:35
  That's what I just found, yes, sir.
• 43:37
  But if people want to want an awakening
• 43:41
  to see both um, I don't want to
• 43:45
  say dementedness, but the viciousness and vindictiveness of
• 43:49
  uh Franklin Roosevelt as a person, especially in
• 43:53
  regard to uh rights for blacks, uh rescuing
• 43:57
  the Jews from Europe.
• 44:01
  Uh he said, Oh no, the way to
• 44:03
  rescue the Jews that'll make sure we win.
• 44:05
  Well, they'll all be dead by then, President.
• 44:07
  No, no, no.
• 44:08
  We'll it's it's it's a wonderful, wonderful book,
• 44:11
  even though it's disturbing as hell.
• 44:14
  That for four terms, he hoodwinked the American
• 44:18
  people and put into place an enormous bureaucracy
• 44:22
  that's unaccountable, and deliberately did it.
• 44:26
  He had nothing bad to say about Stalin.
• 44:30
  Uh he had uh he would ridicule Churchill
• 44:32
  in front of Stalin.
• 44:35
  Uh the it's just it it's almost like
• 44:37
  it's would it would be a fiction book,
• 44:39
  but it's not.
• 44:40
  The man is a renowned historian.
• 44:43
  And so I it's not very expensive, but
• 44:46
  it if you want an angle on how
• 44:49
  we got here, kind of the father of
• 44:52
  this disaster we have at the moment, and
• 44:55
  he was copying as as uh Brandon said,
• 44:59
  Roosevelt was devoted to his uh uh mentor,
• 45:02
  really, uh Woodrow Wilson.
• 45:05
  Yeah, and he was I think assistant secretary
• 45:07
  of the Navy.
• 45:09
  Yeah, he was worked for yeah, right.
• 45:12
  The monstrous, the monstrous uh government that Roosevelt
• 45:15
  gave birth to was modeled on the monstrous
• 45:18
  government Wilson created to run his war.
• 45:22
  Yeah, and let all those social Marxists in
• 45:24
  too into his cabinet, too.
• 45:26
  It wasn't that right, Mike.
• 45:28
  Yeah.
• 45:28
  Well, there's there's any the I've seen uh
• 45:31
  uh estimates in this book and in other
• 45:34
  books that there were between three and five
• 45:37
  hundred Soviet uh assets, yeah, intelligence assets and
• 45:40
  there's a government.
• 45:43
  Yes, there's actually another great historian.
• 45:47
  Uh he's he used to be, I don't
• 45:49
  know if he still is, he's at Hillsdale,
• 45:51
  Burton Folsom Jr.
• 45:53
  wrote um two of my favorite books, which
• 45:55
  sound like they're kind of in line with
• 45:58
  what this other uh uh guy wrote.
• 46:01
  Uh he wrote a book called FDR Goes
• 46:04
  to War, and uh and that detailed all
• 46:06
  of the penetration by the Soviets into FDR's
• 46:09
  administration, and then he wrote also New Deal
• 46:12
  or Raw Deal, which is just a he's
• 46:14
  an economist, this guy, he's an economic historian,
• 46:17
  and he just just tears apart um the
• 46:19
  New Deal.
• 46:22
  And then also don't forget Diana West has
• 46:25
  a great book called American Betrayal.
• 46:27
  She's a national treasure.
• 46:29
  Um she has another good book called Red
• 46:31
  Thread, but but but the American Betrayal you
• 46:33
  had her on the National Security Out of
• 46:34
  Bradley.
• 46:36
  No, she um she's a little annoyed with
• 46:39
  me because I'm critical of Mr.
• 46:41
  Trump, but um, you know, I I am
• 46:44
  still a fan of her book, uh American
• 46:46
  Betrayal, which the whole first half details you
• 46:49
  know the penetration of FDR and how he
• 46:51
  encouraged it.
• 46:54
  He he actually thought it was great that
• 46:56
  he had these Soviet wannabes in his midst
• 46:57
  because it would allow for him to have
• 46:59
  better relations with Uncle Joe, as he called
• 47:01
  him.
• 47:03
  Uncle Joe.
• 47:04
  Yeah.
• 47:05
  I mean, the this country's been sold out
• 47:06
  uh for for decades.
• 47:09
  This isn't something new.
• 47:10
  Michael, is there anything about the Dallions with
• 47:13
  the paramour from Sweden?
• 47:16
  Is it in the book?
• 47:16
  There was nothing, but it's nothing in this
• 47:18
  book, but it was a there was quite
• 47:20
  a bit about how uh Lucy Rutherford was
• 47:22
  her name.
• 47:24
  She was a wife of a rich guy
• 47:27
  that lived in New Jersey, and she was
• 47:30
  his paramour during the first world war, and
• 47:32
  then continued to meet with him uh very
• 47:35
  quietly while he was president through all four
• 47:37
  terms.
• 47:40
  And the bastard Roosevelt, he used his daughter
• 47:43
  Anna to cover up to cover can to
• 47:46
  conduct the to conduct the meetings and make
• 47:49
  sure no one found out about them.
• 47:52
  Well, my father-in-law, my father-in-law was a kid
• 47:55
  in DC, and he told me he when
• 47:57
  he was a kid, everybody because he knew
• 47:59
  everybody in DC grew up around everybody.
• 48:02
  He said everybody in DC knew all the
• 48:04
  media knew when he was when FDR was
• 48:07
  having an affair because he would be in
• 48:09
  his car driving around with the women.
• 48:12
  He said that they just didn't report on
• 48:13
  it.
• 48:14
  It was a gentleman's agreement, he said back
• 48:16
  in the day.
• 48:17
  Yeah.
• 48:18
  Just it it's it's it knocked me.
• 48:22
  I thought I've read so many things in
• 48:23
  my life that I have nothing that affected
• 48:25
  me like this, but it really caused me
• 48:27
  to question most everything I've learned and what
• 48:29
  I've been taught.
• 48:31
  And also, I'm old enough to remember that
• 48:34
  people thought he was a saint.
• 48:36
  Yeah, that's why I call him Saint FDR.
• 48:38
  Well, they still do.
• 48:40
  They still do, they still do a rough
• 48:42
  time in the depression, and they saw him
• 48:43
  as somebody that was at least out there
• 48:45
  pitching for them.
• 48:47
  And at the end of the day, the
• 48:48
  the New Deal made it worse.
• 48:51
  It did.
• 48:51
  Well, yeah, and that's actually in the book
• 48:53
  by Burton Folsom Jr., uh Raw Deal New
• 48:56
  Deal or Raw Deal, he opens his book
• 48:58
  with a quote from Henry Morgenthal, who was
• 49:00
  From Henry Morgenthal, who was tr uh FDR's
• 49:01
  uh FDR's best friend, former neighbor, and he
• 49:02
  best friend, former neighbor, and he was the
• 49:03
  was the Secretary of Treasury for FDR, in
• 49:04
  Secretary of Treasury for FDR, in which Morgenthau
• 49:06
  which Morgenthau says to Congress under oath, we
• 49:06
  says to Congress under oath, we have taxed
• 49:08
  have taxed and taxed and taxed and spent
• 49:09
  and taxed and taxed and spent and spent
• 49:10
  and spent and spent and printed and printed
• 49:11
  and spent and printed and printed and printed
• 49:13
  and printed money, and it still hasn't gotten
• 49:13
  money, and it still hasn't gotten us out
• 49:15
  us out of the Great Depression.
• 49:15
  of the Great Depression.
• 49:18
  Yes.
• 49:18
  Yes.
• 49:18
  And so even FDR's top people knew the
• 49:18
  And so even FDR's top people knew the
• 49:20
  New Deal was all one big dog and
• 49:20
  new deal was all one big dog and
• 49:22
  pony show.
• 49:22
  pony show.
• 49:24
  It wasn't anything more than to try to
• 49:24
  It wasn't anything more than to try to
• 49:25
  make everybody feel good when actually nothing was
• 49:26
  make everybody feel good when actually nothing was
• 49:27
  the only thing that got us out of
• 49:28
  the only thing that got us out of
• 49:28
  the
• 49:30
  the listen, the only thing that got us
• 49:31
  out to a degree of the Great Depression
• 49:33
  was the spending on the war.
• 49:35
  That's that once everything, the productive you know,
• 49:38
  juices to build war machines got going.
• 49:41
  That's what really stimulated uh the economy and
• 49:43
  the fact that all of our potential economic
• 49:45
  rivals were flattened.
• 49:47
  Uh so many unemployed he had to go
• 49:48
  into the military.
• 49:50
  That's right.
• 49:51
  That's right.
• 49:51
  The whole the total number of people unemployed
• 49:53
  went down and it looked good.
• 49:55
  And you can't help but to wonder, uh,
• 49:57
  linking it to today.
• 49:59
  You can't help but to wonder once all
• 50:01
  these shortages and the economic could catastrophe that
• 50:03
  we're heading into, you know, really hits.
• 50:06
  Uh the way that Trump is talking about
• 50:08
  drafting people and World War III and Palantir
• 50:10
  supporting a national draft again.
• 50:13
  You can't help but think of maybe this
• 50:14
  is some kind of a weird plan behind
• 50:15
  the scenes.
• 50:17
  Everybody's gonna be poor and unemployed, and the
• 50:18
  only opportunities let me tell you a little
• 50:20
  bit of story.
• 50:21
  I met a guy at the fuel pump,
• 50:23
  young guy, probably early 30s, and he was
• 50:26
  cursing.
• 50:28
  You know, he spent over a hundred dollars
• 50:29
  to fill up his pickup truck.
• 50:31
  And you know, I was filling on the
• 50:33
  other side of the of his pump, and
• 50:35
  he goes, I can't believe Steven says, Tell
• 50:36
  me all about it.
• 50:38
  And they and he goes, you know, they
• 50:39
  turned me down from going into the Marines
• 50:41
  a few years back.
• 50:42
  I tried to get a Marines and I
• 50:44
  had a couple of misdemeanors, you know, pot
• 50:45
  charge or whatever.
• 50:47
  They gave me all kinds of horseshit.
• 50:48
  He said the other day they sent me
• 50:50
  a letter to come down and see if
• 50:52
  I want to come into the marines.
• 50:55
  At the recruitment office, and he said, F
• 50:57
  this crap.
• 50:59
  I fight for no foreign government, and that's
• 51:01
  what we're doing to do.
• 51:03
  We're gonna be fine, you know, real country,
• 51:05
  you know.
• 51:06
  And he goes, I find and he mentioned
• 51:08
  the blue and white, and you know, uh
• 51:10
  the other stuff.
• 51:12
  But uh you know, he says, I don't
• 51:13
  care.
• 51:14
  I'm gonna go down and rip up a
• 51:15
  new ass.
• 51:19
  They must be desperate by now.
• 51:22
  That's funny.
• 51:23
  That's fine.
• 51:23
  Well, they are look, they they're very they're
• 51:25
  very desperate.
• 51:27
  And uh, you know, we're where this is
• 51:29
  all the this all goes back to the
• 51:32
  patterns established by FDR.
• 51:34
  I mean, this is the last 100 years.
• 51:37
  Uh, you know, is all the the the
• 51:40
  America you know died uh when FDR was
• 51:43
  elected, the America of our founders.
• 51:46
  And uh you could ar make the argument
• 51:49
  as well, and this would upset my friends
• 51:51
  at Claremont, but I would make the argument
• 51:53
  that a real America died uh with uh
• 51:55
  the election of Abraham Lincoln and uh you
• 51:57
  know Michael, what do you say to that?
• 51:59
  I think it's I think it's exactly right.
• 52:02
  And I was I was educated and I
• 52:03
  read his mind, I know I could read
• 52:05
  his mind.
• 52:07
  Well I was educated at a time when
• 52:09
  Lincoln was always the patron saint.
• 52:12
  Oh, yeah, he was another thing saint.
• 52:15
  And now you know it's obvious he didn't
• 52:18
  give a good damn about the constitution.
• 52:21
  He literally didn't care about the constitution.
• 52:25
  He supported an amendment, the first 14th amendment
• 52:29
  that would have removed all federal uh ability
• 52:32
  to do anything about slavery for for eternity.
• 52:37
  And it just didn't get the war overtook
• 52:39
  it, but he supported it.
• 52:42
  Well, yeah, and he looked so really if
• 52:45
  you look at the civil war and the
• 52:47
  rise of after the civil war, the industrial
• 52:49
  revolution, that completely changed and centralized American power
• 52:52
  in ways the founders would have never been
• 52:54
  okay with.
• 52:56
  And then you look at you know, what
• 52:58
  the world wars come and then FDR rises,
• 53:00
  and it's basically, you know, the what whatever
• 53:02
  country we're living in now is like more
• 53:04
  like the French, how they have all those
• 53:06
  different republics, right?
• 53:08
  They are like the fifth French Republic.
• 53:10
  I mean, the Vichy government is here right
• 53:12
  now.
• 53:13
  That's right.
• 53:14
  That's right.
• 53:15
  The only thing missing is the line from
• 53:17
  Casablanca.
• 53:21
  He blows the whistle.
• 53:22
  Remember Claude Burns?
• 53:23
  He blows the whistle, he says, gambling.
• 53:25
  Oh I can't.
• 53:28
  I'm shocked there's gambling going on in this
• 53:29
  establishment.
• 53:31
  Now give me my winning.
• 53:33
  I'm shocked about I'm shocked about we have
• 53:34
  oligarchs.
• 53:36
  When did we have them?
• 53:38
  Well, it's certainly um it certainly makes the
• 53:40
  post-Soviet oligarchs blush what we have, because our
• 53:42
  system, you know, their system only went on
• 53:44
  for about a decade before Putin reigned them
• 53:46
  in.
• 53:48
  Uh, you know, our system's gone on for
• 53:50
  decades, and uh, they're part of the government
• 53:51
  now.
• 53:53
  Uh remember, Obama bailed out.
• 53:55
  Remember, Obama gets elected in 2008 to go
• 53:58
  after Wall Street, and the first thing he
• 54:00
  does is hire all the Wall Streeters to
• 54:02
  run his administration, and they end up bailing
• 54:04
  out Wall Street.
• 54:06
  So, you know, no matter who you elect,
• 54:09
  you're gonna get the banksters, the Broligarchs of
• 54:12
  Silicon Valley, you're gonna get the Zionists.
• 54:15
  Uh, you're gonna get uh, you know, that
• 54:17
  you're not gonna get the pro-American the America
• 54:19
  first, even if they call themselves America first
• 54:21
  like they do now, they're not America first.
• 54:24
  They're just not.
• 54:26
  In essence, there's nobody for Americans.
• 54:28
  That's it.
• 54:29
  I think just you I just think that
• 54:31
  the some of the people on this podcast,
• 54:32
  uh, you know, and uh I can tell
• 54:34
  you I've been marginalized.
• 54:36
  I had uh my old friend Arthur Herman
• 54:38
  uh uh at Hudson, who I adore, um
• 54:41
  he claimed that I was disgruntled on Twitter
• 54:43
  and that uh I am uh sunk to
• 54:46
  a new low.
• 54:49
  Uh and uh, you know even telling the
• 54:51
  truth.
• 54:54
  Well, I think I think I think what
• 54:56
  happened was Arthur got the call from the
• 54:57
  Hudson donors.
• 54:58
  Uh you know, you can't be associated with
• 55:00
  this man.
• 55:02
  Tell me about that one, boy.
• 55:05
  So, you know, I still think Arthur's a
• 55:07
  great writer, he's got some good books, but
• 55:09
  uh ultimately, you know, everybody is uh, you
• 55:11
  know, everybody has to get a paycheck and
• 55:13
  uh they got to protect their pension.
• 55:15
  So I'm somehow a threat to that.
• 55:17
  So by the way, we've speaking about uh
• 55:20
  John.
• 55:24
  Did he he got pardon from Trump, but
• 55:25
  he did he get his pension back?
• 55:27
  Kiriyaku?
• 55:28
  Yeah.
• 55:29
  I I don't know.
• 55:30
  I don't know.
• 55:30
  I I don't know him that well.
• 55:32
  I know you guys probably know him better
• 55:33
  than I do.
• 55:34
  I've only met him a couple times now.
• 55:35
  Well, Michael knows my guests better than I
• 55:36
  do.
• 55:37
  We only had him on the show.
• 55:39
  Uh he came on our show on the
• 55:40
  uh I think he was on the security
• 55:42
  out, wasn't he, Mike?
• 55:43
  Yeah, he was like a month ago because
• 55:44
  I heard it.
• 55:46
  Yeah.
• 55:46
  So yeah, because we got the two mics,
• 55:48
  I get confused all the time.
• 55:49
  But you know, you got guys like you
• 55:51
  got guys like Dr.
• 55:52
  Mike and John, and they're super bright.
• 55:54
  And uh uh, you know, that's why the
• 55:56
  CIA has to run them out of town
• 55:58
  because they can't have actual intelligence in the
• 56:00
  Intelligence in the intelligence community.
• 56:00
  intelligence community, you know.
• 56:02
  You know.
• 56:03
  It should be the disintelligence.
• 56:03
  It should be the disintelligence.
• 56:06
  What was the the joke in Meet the
• 56:07
  What was the the joke in Meet the
• 56:08
  Falkers?
• 56:09
  The lack of central intelligence or whatever.
• 56:09
  Falkers, the lack of central intelligence or whatever?
• 56:13
  Agency, the LCIA lack of central intelligence agency.
• 56:13
  Agency, the LCIA lack of central intelligence agency.
• 56:18
  So that's America.
• 56:18
  So that's America.
• 56:20
  Yeah.
• 56:20
  Yeah.
• 56:20
  All right.
• 56:20
  All right, we want to thank our guest
• 56:21
  We want to thank our guest tonight, our
• 56:22
  tonight, our Wednesday host, Brandon Whitkart, shooting it
• 56:23
  Wednesday host, Brandon Wykart, shooting it from the
• 56:24
  from the hip and the side and the
• 56:25
  hip and the side and the head.
• 56:25
  head.
• 56:28
  Oh, it's a great job.
• 56:28
  Oh, it's a great job.
• 56:30
  Thank you.
• 56:30
  Brandon for joining us on the mission, the
• 56:32
  National Security.
• 56:34
  I was the tip of the spear in
• 56:35
  the epic battle to w defend the United
• 56:36
  States of America.
• 56:38
  Hey, tune in next Monday night, eight PM.
• 56:40
  Tune in in two nights, Wednesday, eight p.m.
• 56:43
  for Brandon Wycart.
• 56:44
  We'll see you next week.
• 56:45
  Thank you.