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INTERVIEW: 'Grits & Eggs' Podcast Talk Free Thought, Avoiding The Noise, Parenting + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Every day a week ago, clicks up the Breakfast Club Morning.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody's the j en Vy Jesse, Larry Charlamagne the Guy.
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  Speaker 2: We are the Breakfast Club. We have a special guest
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  Speaker 2: in the building. Yes, indeed, from the Gritted Eggs Podcast,
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  Speaker 2: Deontay Kyle.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome, Goddamn cat, Big Ice.
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  Speaker 3: How you're feeling good? We're good, man. It's cold, bro,
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  Speaker 3: excited to be here, tripping Bro, Like you're from Atlanta.
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  Speaker 1: I'm from South Carolina too, so you never really get
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  Speaker 1: used to this cold.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, It's like I had to jump out of ober, Like, Bro,
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  Speaker 4: I might as well just walk jackets, Big jack.
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  Speaker 3: Matter.
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  Speaker 1: What's the origin story of the Grits and Eggs podcast?
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  Speaker 4: I started doing TikTok from the truck just how to
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  Speaker 4: you know. I'm like, you consume a lot of media
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  Speaker 4: when you're on the road. I was like, man, I
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  Speaker 4: feel like I could throw my head in here. I
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  Speaker 4: feel like I got something to say. Yeah, charg drive Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: for the last five years, I actually just stopped driving
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  Speaker 4: trucks in April, you know what I'm saying. So once
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  Speaker 4: the ticks has started blowing up, I just kind of
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  Speaker 4: like foresight was just like I gotta find something else
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  Speaker 4: to do. I can't just live on this one app
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  Speaker 4: and I want to kind of get long form with it.
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  Speaker 4: So YouTube natural place to go in the podcast, just
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  Speaker 4: in like the place where people speak freely. So it's like, well,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I figure out how much it cost to
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  Speaker 4: set this thing up.
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  Speaker 3: I just started in the back of the truck.
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  Speaker 4: And then once it started gain tractioning me, I called
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  Speaker 4: him and I was like, Yo, come work this camera
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  Speaker 4: for me. Because we had a little Canning camera go
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  Speaker 4: out like every twelve minutes, and I was like, man,
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  Speaker 4: just come hit the button every twelve minutes. We had
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  Speaker 4: to continue to shot little Sony four k joint and
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  Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, it just run that and then
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  Speaker 4: just the chemistry is just naturally started picking up.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not even at the twelve minutes because anybody that
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  Speaker 2: taped the podcast from the beginning knows that the camera
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  Speaker 2: would shut off automatically twelve years. Yeah, so you either
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  Speaker 2: have to reset it every twelve minutes or get two
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  Speaker 2: views so that way you could go back and forth.
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  Speaker 3: That's what it was doing.
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  Speaker 4: The continual shot was grainy, but it was like a
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  Speaker 4: decam and it was like it'll keep going so in
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  Speaker 4: between times because sometimes he'll be like you forget, I
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  Speaker 4: forget because we talked as friends, he ain't really seeing
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  Speaker 4: me do my thing, so he like kind of getting
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  Speaker 4: lost in the message. And then I'm like, Yo, get
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  Speaker 4: the camera, bro, get on the camera. The red light
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  Speaker 4: not on, you know what I'm saying. But yeah, it
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  Speaker 4: was it was just a continuation of like smaller social
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  Speaker 4: media clips into long fun content, like you can only
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  Speaker 4: say so much in three minutes, and you can only
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  Speaker 4: hold people attention so much on TikTok.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: So I was just like, all right, let's get a
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  Speaker 4: long form and get the audience to actually want to
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  Speaker 4: dive into these topics. You've been doing it for five years? No, no, no,
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  Speaker 4: I've been doing I started a podcast two years ago
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  Speaker 4: in March, so, uh two years visual in January. Oh
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  Speaker 4: you ahead of schedule then, because you know, there was
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  Speaker 4: always a statistics show that it usually takes a podcast
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  Speaker 4: sixty seven years to really.
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  Speaker 1: Really really take off. And for you to already be
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  Speaker 1: cutting through after only a couple of years, that's damn good.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't have to prove a concept from social
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  Speaker 4: media though, So, like I didn't come into it like
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  Speaker 4: without an audience I had. I was like one hundred
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  Speaker 4: thousand strong on TikTok when I started, and so I
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  Speaker 4: was like, all right, well kind of integrate these folks.
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  Speaker 3: And I know, like integration is like ten percent.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, you get a thousand people to watch
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  Speaker 4: the yeah, I'm good. When we was getting a thousand.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad you got that mentality because people be
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  Speaker 1: acting like a thousand people not a lot of people.
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  Speaker 1: Other people be outside right now.
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  Speaker 4: The real We did our first show one hundred and
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  Speaker 4: fifty people looking at you on the face.
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  Speaker 3: It's crazy, that's right.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, I need a minute, broball, like this
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  Speaker 4: is insane, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: But we done got used to that part too.
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  Speaker 5: Because yeas you mess up, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 5: It's the same with comedy. It's like transitioning from being uh,
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  Speaker 5: this this person will make skits and all that, and
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  Speaker 5: then you go on stage and now they're looking at
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  Speaker 5: you and you can't delete or you can't.
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  Speaker 4: Edited, Yeah, they got it, and then they looking at
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  Speaker 4: you like this entertain us, do it do the thing
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  Speaker 4: you do?
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  Speaker 5: How was the first live show.
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  Speaker 3: It was cool man.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's it was so much love too, because we
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  Speaker 4: got invited out there and so like, you know, us
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  Speaker 4: being like a podcast that's centered around like a black
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  Speaker 4: experience and the community issues for us to go to
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  Speaker 4: like one of the blackst cities in America. They invited
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  Speaker 4: us and a lot of people. I'm going to Mississippi
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  Speaker 4: to do nothing. So it was our first show, so
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  Speaker 4: much love in it. But we done kind of got seasoned.
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  Speaker 4: We do a couple of shows in Atlanta. We got
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  Speaker 4: to show tomorrow out here. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: A difficult thing to talk about when you talk about
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  Speaker 2: the podcast, what's one thing you'd be like, Ah, we
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  Speaker 2: got to talk about that as a relationship. As a
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  Speaker 2: politics is itationships.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, don't do that.
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  Speaker 4: I start away from anything that's like low hanging fruit,
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  Speaker 4: things that people just do just to get clicks.
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  Speaker 3: I don't do raise bait.
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  Speaker 4: Either you're gonna engage with this because you're genuinely interested,
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  Speaker 4: or you're gonna keep it pushing, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not trying to come with a hook.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not doing none of that because relationships, that's two people.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what I don't know how you was raised.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what type of love you grew up around,
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  Speaker 4: So I can't tell you how to love or how
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  Speaker 4: to receive love, or how to operate with your partner.
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  Speaker 4: Like that's that's just gonna have people disagreeing, and that's
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  Speaker 4: good for engagement, but ain't long lasting.
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  Speaker 6: Say, how do you choose in the community?
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  Speaker 7: What Because there's always a lot going on, what you
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  Speaker 7: spend your time focusing on what's low hanging fruit and
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  Speaker 7: what's not.
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  Speaker 4: I just don't react, you know what I mean? Like,
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  Speaker 4: like the thing about TikTok. What I learned early on
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  Speaker 4: how to separate myself is like, don't just make a
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  Speaker 4: video soon as something come out, because you're gonna miss
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  Speaker 4: the mark. You don't got all the information. You don't
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  Speaker 4: know if the headline was false, you don't know if
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  Speaker 4: it's AI. You don't know nothing. So I just sit
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  Speaker 4: back and kind of let like get my own perspective
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  Speaker 4: on it, and like kind of research things too. People
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  Speaker 4: just be talking. People just say stuff, and then you
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  Speaker 4: come out and you ain't researched. I started to see
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  Speaker 4: this happen with lgs a lot now Instagram, Like they
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  Speaker 4: reposting stuff and like reacting and stuff and it's like
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  Speaker 4: that's AI, it's not it's notorious for that, Pete Rock,
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  Speaker 4: what you.
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  Speaker 3: Be doing a stuff like oh my god, this is real.
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  Speaker 3: Pep right, this.
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  Speaker 1: I got one time with what was the brother name,
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  Speaker 1: Kyle Lacy. It was they said it was his mom
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  Speaker 1: and I got it from an eternity being Crump's page.
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  Speaker 1: So it was his mom talking about what happened to
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  Speaker 1: him and I just reposted it and it was a Yeah, it.
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  Speaker 4: Get a little wicked because it's like you don't want
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  Speaker 4: to because then it's like it's it's not really a
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  Speaker 4: credibility thing. Anybody can get got by it, especially with
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  Speaker 4: it being some new But I think with just reacting
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  Speaker 4: to things off your like emotional standpoint, you can't take
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  Speaker 4: your back like once you post it in you know
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  Speaker 4: the internet thing like if you you take a puss down,
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  Speaker 4: they're like scared.
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  Speaker 1: But you gotta admit when you're wrong. Yeah, that's all
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  Speaker 1: you gotta do too, because your audience will appreciate that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I think the human aspect of it is just being
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  Speaker 4: able to just say you're wrong. Don't double down on
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  Speaker 4: your life, don't double down when you when you mess
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  Speaker 4: up down here and be like, yeah, I missed, mister Mark,
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  Speaker 4: I'm human.
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  Speaker 7: Now that people are coming to y'all as like a
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  Speaker 7: source of education, how has that changed or has it
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  Speaker 7: changed your approach and how you present information? Is there
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  Speaker 7: like a pressure because people like my little brother loves
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  Speaker 7: your content and he swears by everything you said? Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: I like literally does that add pressure into how you
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  Speaker 7: put out your content on what you choose to up?
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  Speaker 4: Not really, I don't. I never approached it as like
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  Speaker 4: an authority. These things I was talking about anyway, These
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  Speaker 4: are things conversations I was having with lot of my friends, family,
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  Speaker 4: the homies, like any anytime I used to rap, like
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  Speaker 4: in between songs and the engine er doing this thing.
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  Speaker 4: I was always talking about like owning our own stuff
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  Speaker 4: or like you know, just like organically creating a following
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  Speaker 4: different ways and strategic and then it was naturally leading
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  Speaker 4: to things that's going on in the community.
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  Speaker 3: I had these opinions already.
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  Speaker 4: So a lot of my stuff is things that I researched,
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  Speaker 4: lectures that I watch and kind of digest it for myself,
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  Speaker 4: but also like life experience. I don't talk about nothing, no, no,
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  Speaker 4: So I don't got that pressure to feel like I'm
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  Speaker 4: an authority on something or I gotta say something like
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  Speaker 4: it's ten other creators out here that said something about that.
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  Speaker 3: Go watch the video. They might have hit it.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna regurgitate information just because you want to
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  Speaker 4: hear it from me, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 7: My brother wants to start this like trucking company, and
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  Speaker 7: he has a whole idea. And when he told me
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  Speaker 7: about it, he sent me the video that you did
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  Speaker 7: on ownership. It was like, you could work all these
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  Speaker 7: businesses and try to become a millionaire, but what they
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  Speaker 7: give to you they could take from you, right, And
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  Speaker 7: that was his way of telling me, like I need
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  Speaker 7: to help him figure that out.
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  Speaker 6: But yeah, yeah, so he.
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  Speaker 3: Leans into y'all lot, Yeah for sure, shout out your
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  Speaker 3: little brother.
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  Speaker 7: His name is don Don't on the truck.
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  Speaker 1: Why the name grits and eggs, Like, what does that
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  Speaker 1: represent about the show's voice of the identity I was.
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  Speaker 4: I was kind of thinking about when I came to
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  Speaker 4: my own, like when I started thinking for myself, making
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  Speaker 4: my own decisions and started real young. I was like eleven,
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  Speaker 4: when my folks had split up. My mom actually moved
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  Speaker 4: to Atlanta, and we started in women to North Carolina
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  Speaker 4: with our dad, and Passa's like, look, bro y'all, Mama
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  Speaker 4: grond I got to pick up another job.
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  Speaker 3: Grits, gris and eggs. That's to go to all the time.
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  Speaker 3: It's always gonna be on there. Learn how to.
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  Speaker 4: Cook that you can take care of yourself twice a week.
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  Speaker 4: Come throw us pot of spaghetti in there. You know
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  Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: You good?
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  Speaker 4: So it was just like this how I kind of
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  Speaker 4: game my autonomy. I was taking care of my siblings.
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  Speaker 4: I ain't have to do nothing if I don't want to.
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  Speaker 4: If I didn't want to go to school, I ain't
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  Speaker 4: have to, you know what I mean. But I also
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  Speaker 4: started making like responsible decisions for myself too, and too
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  Speaker 4: like all the hemies at school when'm a skied school.
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  Speaker 3: And be a humb by myself.
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  Speaker 4: I ain't trying to do that, but it was just
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  Speaker 4: like it reminded me of a time when I was
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  Speaker 4: like really starting to think for myself. And then it
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  Speaker 4: just like it's southern, you know, it's black, and it's
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  Speaker 4: it sounds good, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying. So it hit all my marks
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  Speaker 3: and I was like, yeah, we're going a roun with it.
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  Speaker 1: Ain't no better breakfast bro a biscuits every day you live.
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  Speaker 3: You're full too.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Look, right, so you went from social media to now
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  Speaker 5: doing your live shows? Right, what are some of the
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  Speaker 5: challenges that you would face when you when you made
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  Speaker 5: that transition, Like, because you mentioned earlier it's one in
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  Speaker 5: the seats is like, now what do I do? Like,
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  Speaker 5: what are some of the other challenges?
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  Speaker 1: What did you realize?
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  Speaker 4: I think it's just figuring how to structure the show.
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  Speaker 4: It's not the same when we me and himuld go
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  Speaker 4: off on a tangent, like we're just banter sometimes, and
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  Speaker 4: it's like you can't really do that in a live
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  Speaker 4: show because you kind of got to involve the crowd.
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  Speaker 4: You want them to be involved. So also, you know,
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  Speaker 4: rushing through your talking points my first show, like I
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  Speaker 4: had all these talking points and I done went through
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  Speaker 4: them because I'm nervous for real. So I'm just like,
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  Speaker 4: I'm not pacing, I'm not taking my time, I'm not pausing,
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  Speaker 4: I'm not doing none of that that I would do
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  Speaker 4: on the show. And then I was like, damn man,
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  Speaker 4: it's like we're only fifteen minutes and they don't know,
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  Speaker 4: And I'm like that to slow bro, and I was like, big,
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  Speaker 4: what's up baby?
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  Speaker 3: Talk to the people.
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  Speaker 4: But I was like with me, but when you start interacting,
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  Speaker 4: I like the thing that I do at the live
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  Speaker 4: shows now is like, you know, normally you wait till
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  Speaker 4: the end, you do a Q and A and they
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  Speaker 4: ask you questions. But I got these topics that surround
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  Speaker 4: already my talking points were, but I like to pose
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  Speaker 4: a question to the crowd because like, I feel like I.
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  Speaker 3: Could trust my crowd.
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  Speaker 4: They intelligent people, and every time we post questions of
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  Speaker 4: the crowd and they come up, it's like so much
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  Speaker 4: substance that they bring because a lot of these people
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  Speaker 4: be like professionals, Like we got professors that come, doctors,
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  Speaker 4: all people from all talk about so life and shit
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  Speaker 4: like that. So it's like, damn, I can really trust
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  Speaker 4: my crowd and I can feed off them too, and
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  Speaker 4: that actually like build out the interaction.
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  Speaker 3: But they really feel like they're part of the show too.
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  Speaker 7: When you're doing cultural commentary, right, and both of y'all
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  Speaker 7: have so much different perspective and personal experience in preparation
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  Speaker 7: how long because I feel like y'all conversations between each other. Well,
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  Speaker 7: probably go for hours in preparation. How do you cut
• 11:39
  Speaker 7: it and be like this is what we gonna take
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  Speaker 7: from it there because your clips online get straight.
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  Speaker 6: To what you need to get to.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, we just focus on the main the main thing.
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  Speaker 9: We keep the main thing, the main thing, because like
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  Speaker 9: I said, like he said, we can bant it for hours.
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  Speaker 9: We can go for hours and hours about different different
• 11:57
  Speaker 9: topics and subjects, but basically we just you know, he
• 12:00
  Speaker 9: focus on he gets his key points, he writes them
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  Speaker 9: down on the talk on the whiteboard, and then we'll
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  Speaker 9: go over and then we just go from the show
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  Speaker 9: from there.
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  Speaker 3: Brother, don't even know what we're gonna talk about. I
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  Speaker 3: really don't. He just put it's like the whiteboard full.
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  Speaker 4: And it's like, but I know him, you know what
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  Speaker 4: I'm saying, and we know each other for so long,
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  Speaker 4: it's like it's natural.
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  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: It's natural, Like he gonna fall in.
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  Speaker 4: He got a different perspective on a lot of things too,
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  Speaker 4: but it's the ideology is a line, so you know
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  Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like like when we kick the mathematics
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  Speaker 4: to him, like because you know he got the five
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  Speaker 4: percent of knowledge and all of it. It's just kind
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  Speaker 4: of like showcasing all these different black thoughts, you know
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  Speaker 4: what I mean. But as far as picking the topic,
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  Speaker 4: it's like, for real, I might pull a topic from
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  Speaker 4: this conversation, like I like to pull it from real
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  Speaker 4: life situations and you know, just things that I actually
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  Speaker 4: care about, Like if we see issues in our community,
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  Speaker 4: it ain't really like it ain't.
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  Speaker 3: Progressive to like beerate each other.
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  Speaker 4: And a lot of people think that that's the way
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  Speaker 4: to get a point across, Like I gotta brate you,
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  Speaker 4: I gotta talk down like, hey, bro yall, mama talk
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  Speaker 4: to you. That don't time to me like that, you
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  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. A lot of people bringing stuff
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  Speaker 4: from their household when you bring up to the community.
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  Speaker 4: If you start empathy, I love, it's like people don't
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  Speaker 4: receive that, you know, the same way you receive information.
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  Speaker 4: So if it feels like it's coming from somebody who cares,
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  Speaker 4: then I think the messican can get across. But I
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  Speaker 4: think getting right to it, like especially on social media.
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  Speaker 3: I don't need no hood. This is what we're talking about,
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  Speaker 3: and then we gonna go through.
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  Speaker 1: So Cat, you don't even be knowing what he gonna
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  Speaker 1: talk about it when you come up to the house.
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  Speaker 1: He got on the Satan mask with a shoot on.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, when I came to the house, that
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  Speaker 1: they okay. He came to the door regular, He said,
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  Speaker 1: I got surprised for you. I said, all right, cool.
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  Speaker 1: He goes upstairs.
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  Speaker 9: You ready, I said, YOA come on, nigga, come downstairs
• 13:38
  Speaker 9: in a Trump suit with a Saint mat I said,
• 13:40
  Speaker 9: I know what kind of episode is going to be.
• 13:43
  Speaker 3: I already know what the sponsors to go be. You
• 13:44
  Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. But that's the type of ship
• 13:46
  Speaker 3: we do though. You know what I'm saying.
• 13:47
  Speaker 9: If somebody say something online, like they try to counsel
• 13:49
  Speaker 9: them every two weeks over something that he say, but
• 13:52
  Speaker 9: the people ain't listening, trying.
• 13:54
  Speaker 3: To cancel you and they listen to react, no listen
• 13:56
  Speaker 3: to the message. You know what I'm saying.
• 13:57
  Speaker 7: I think it's because a lot of people are gonna
• 14:00
  Speaker 7: say free but free thought with black people in black
• 14:04
  Speaker 7: community sometimes there's a big fight of what people think
• 14:07
  Speaker 7: free thought is and what they don't think it is.
• 14:08
  Speaker 7: And with you, you kind of just say things that
• 14:11
  Speaker 7: people are really not going to say.
• 14:13
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean systemically free thought come with big punishment,
• 14:17
  Speaker 4: and so I think a lot of it is like
• 14:19
  Speaker 4: maybe not cancel them, Like maybe the folk be scared
• 14:22
  Speaker 4: for me, because I'd be saying for like protecting them,
• 14:24
  Speaker 4: like protect me from who?
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: Bro.
• 14:25
  Speaker 3: I ain't tripping on that.
• 14:26
  Speaker 4: Like if we're not gonna say, I mean, what's the
• 14:28
  Speaker 4: point We're gonna play the game like a cow? Then
• 14:30
  Speaker 4: what's the point I don't need no podcast If I'm
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: playing a game like a cow, I could just go
• 14:34
  Speaker 4: take a little money that they try to get to
• 14:36
  Speaker 4: me ere two weeks or whatever the case may be.
• 14:38
  Speaker 4: But we got like stract stances on what we not advertising,
• 14:41
  Speaker 4: where we not going with it, what we're not gonna
• 14:43
  Speaker 4: talk about. And you know, I think the bigger thing
• 14:46
  Speaker 4: is just like it's it worked to get us here.
• 14:49
  Speaker 4: What I'm changing it up for, you know what I mean,
• 14:52
  Speaker 4: I ain't really I ain't scared to talk about now
• 14:54
  Speaker 4: as far as like, you know, whatever the topic may
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: be that oh this will get you shot up band whatever.
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: I don't own the apps, bro, I own it.
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: So it's like, Okay, if I see people constantly getting
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: shadow Man for stuff, maybe we say this for a
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: patron you know, you just got another game.
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: You're playing in the fields you're in like on none
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: of these apps.
• 15:12
  Speaker 4: So if I see them punishing folks, let's go somewhere
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: where we already got our subscription for the service. We
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: know our faults over here, we got a discord over here,
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: let's talk about it or not everything.
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: I gotta be for the public all the time.
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: But you know, what you just talked about is making
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: a choice. And I think that there's a misconception that
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: when you work for a corporate entity, you can't talk
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: about the things you want to talk about, right, you can't.
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: You just make the choice. You make choice, the choice, yeah,
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: and deal with what comes with that.
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know the rule. You know what I'm saying,
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: But you sign the rules.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: Don't come from the rules. The backlash ain't gonna come.
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: From corporate No, you know what I mean, It's not
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: come from the consumer.
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: The consumer or the person you actually talked about. If
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: I go on Fox News and I talk about Donald Trump,
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: which I have, and that Donald Trump calls me a
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: racist swede bag with a low IQ, which he has,
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: that just comes with me, you know, making the choice.
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: Yes, I mean, ain't it ain't gonna change, and the
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: way I approach it. I think the thing about getting
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: canceled is like, I mean, you gotta art You gotta
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: articulate the disagreement.
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: Bro.
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: You can't just say I don't like that you cancel.
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: You don't control my life.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, at one time it was advertising pulling immediately, but
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: I always hated it because we should be able to
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: have a conversation even if we don't agree with each other.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: Why can't we have a conversation. Well, we don't understand
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: push the limit.
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: For sure, because we also don't understand like what freedom
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: and speech is. You know what I'm saying, Like, it
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: ain't the freedom of consequences. I get, but we self censoring.
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: Now we're gonna censor ourselves. So then when they take
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: your freedom of speech, it's like, well, y'all slow walked
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: us into it because you like that mob mentality to
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: make you feel like you got power online.
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: But the thing is, in three days you don't even
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: care no more.
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: And this this is messed up person, hard career regardless,
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: like you know, the the other side of this is
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: like Russell Lumball had like.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: A very lucative career. I ain't agree with.
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: Most And then he said, but I can understand the
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: power of that community. They did agree with him, allowing
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: him to do it for so long, and we were.
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: Right here, you know what I'm saying.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: We did a joint show with Russ before and went
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: back and forth and everything agreed to disagree and all
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: of that.
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: I think, I think you need a diversity of thought.
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: If you only engaging with stuff that you agree with
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: all the time, your scope of intelligence is gonna shrinks
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: because you're an echo chamber. So I always dive into
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: like like a lot of people were saying they ain't
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: no who like Charlie, Kurt web for he died and whatnot,
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: Like I did. I pay attention to folks like that
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: because I need to know what these folks think about this.
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: And that doesn't find the community too, but also too,
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: It's like why they kicking it like that? If you're
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: not basing no facts, I really don't want to hear it,
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: but it's being said, so we need to know it's
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: being said about it, you know what I'm saying.
• 17:42
  Speaker 7: Has there been anybody that has reached out to y'all
• 17:44
  Speaker 7: to come onto the podcast to debate some of y'all
• 17:46
  Speaker 7: thought that.
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: You're like, nah, this is harmful. We don't want to
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: have this conversation.
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: No, never, because I ain't debating ugh, but debates on
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: change minds. It's just we just having a pisson context.
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: I'm cool on that. You know what I'm saying. You
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: can stitch a video and do your thing.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: I ain't baiting they said you debate your Piers everybody
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: else you teach you did.
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah. A lot of people come on the show man like, no,
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: we ain't doing that. Really ain't doing that, Noah.
• 18:08
  Speaker 9: I mean if on the line with it, if you
• 18:11
  Speaker 9: don't like it, like if you don't want to funk
• 18:12
  Speaker 9: with it, if he don't rock with it, it's like,
• 18:18
  Speaker 9: we ain't doing that, you know.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:19
  Speaker 9: He also said, like people have been reaching out to
• 18:21
  Speaker 9: us for a bag for one. We don't do no
• 18:23
  Speaker 9: gambling if you won't do no DIC pills. So we
• 18:26
  Speaker 9: always talk to.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: No mail enhancement.
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, it's the reasons reason for this,
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean, that'd be offering to you know,
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: but I'd be like, and if they answers again, everybody
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: getting fired because I already said no. So it's like
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: the thing is you know, big care Bro, Like this
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: is my dog, Bro, I'd be cool, like I don't
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: really we we we wanted a few shows where people
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: would prefer for us to have the solid episode anytime
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: we drop I guess on Wednesdays, Like Wednesdays is our
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: Sollo slot. We didn't have our guests for the longest.
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: He ain't even our camera, you know what I'm saying.
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: So I'm for a facing. We don't drop Wednesday episodes.
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: They like, yeah, that's cute now, but you can give
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: that another thing. Wednesday is our day. We're doing the
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: knowledge on Wednesdays. So I mean, now we got to
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: guess episodes. But if you're not hip to who I am,
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: I'm not hip to what you do. I'm not like
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: a marketing company, bro the promo. Are we here to
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: have a conversation. I don't know who you is.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: I think it's good. I think it's good because sometimes
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: we get stuck in our own chamber, right, but we
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: don't know what's going on or see what's going on.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Like her brother listens to you all the time. He
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: listens from a different perspective, for sure, So I watch
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: you from a different perspective. I watch you from the
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: clips because I don't have time to watch full episode.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: But it's sometimes it's putting on people that might not
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: know who you are, but be like, damn, that's a
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: small brother. Those are small brothers. Let me let me
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: check them out, you know what I mean?
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So I say this, I took my strategy when
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: it comes to guests. It's kind of like the Joe
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: Rugan strategy. I like to take people that is in
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: feels like we just interview a black extra physicists, uh
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: black like psychologists. We interviewed quite a few, like therapists.
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: I'm pulling from different schools of thought. But it ain't
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: really necessarily about your following or nothing like that. It's
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: like if I like what you're talking about, or if
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: it's out of my range of capability, Like I don't
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: know nothing about astrophysics, for really, he do, and somebody
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: listening might be interested in this, or their child might
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: watch it, like people watch our show with their children.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: So it's like this might send him on the career path.
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: But I'm also like, I got like some little nerdy
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: questions to ask you, bro, and you you the professional,
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: You the expert. I'm gonna gonna ask you, But I
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: think we need to see like a spectrum of black thought,
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: and it ain't always got to be black radical thoughts.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: Sometimes it's just pure education. Sometimes it's just these are feels.
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: We don't know what people in We gonna interview a
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: marine biologists top of twenty twenty six. It's like, I
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: just want to see, like see blackness in this full thing,
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: this monolift that we got.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: But that's dope, you know what I'm saying.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: It's always been all model here, same thing. Bring everybody,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: anybody with an area of expertise, you know, especially black people.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: You know, let's why not why not give them a platform.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: That kid's mind, you know what, I want to try that.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: Let me look look that up in school, Let me
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: do my homework on that, which sometimes we don't get.
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, y'all have y'all lover caught y'allself like in the moment,
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: like shout of here's wildent y'all. Don't y'all like like
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: where you like kind of freezer, like what's like because
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: you can see where people I don't know about you you.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: Take it up with them.
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: But like I think sometimes I know when people coming
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: because they want to like, oh, this would be good,
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: like I can get some clips or whatever. It's like,
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: I don't went down your pathg ain't talk about for
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: real cool on that. You know what I'm saying. It's
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: plenty of folks you can talk to and the following
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: really doesn't matter. It's like, is this gonna be like
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: not benefit me, but like benefit the audience. It's gonna
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: add anything. Is we're gonna be able to have a
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: real conversation or you just want to come up here
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: so you can disagree with me in front of everybody.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Cool, But you know what, y'all learning of very a
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: very good part of your skill set because when women
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: used to always tell me, you're only gonna interview somebody
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: like jay Z wants right, though you might interview Rihanna
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Beyonce wants right. They come to listen to you every
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: single day. So it's the same thing with y'all. With
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: the podcast, right, people want to hear from y'all to
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: every single episode that I know I can stand on right.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Everything else is gravy.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it feels good to have established it ourselves without
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: like we were not like formerly media trained or even
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: in entertainment, like we kind of grassroots came up. TikTok
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: is a great platform for like the everyday person to
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: kind of voice their opinion and perspective. And you know,
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: I'm just grateful that people right with me in the
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: way they do, like, because I don't think that everything
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: got to be a situation where people are placed in
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: front of you by corporations or entities or you know,
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: I've been grinding ten years and I just pivoted to this.
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: It's like, bro, I'm in truck, I just like you.
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Every day, I'm working sixty
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: hours a week. I'm taking care of my babies. You
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, but also out of mind and
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: perspective on things too that I feel like it's valuable
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: to the conversation.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: And those my favorite podcast stories, and I know that,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of rappers and athletes and
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: celebrities that get into the podcast get my favorite podcast
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: stories of people like yourselves and to read and Mandy
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: and Wheezy, people who weren't weren't in media at all,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: like doing corporate jobs, driving trucks and decided know it,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: I got something to say, I want to tell my
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: unique story and then people gravitate towards it. To me,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: that's what the essence of podcasting is about.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you got a bit on yourself for sure. Yeah
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: for sure.
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: So earlier you said you don't talk about surface level ship,
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: you know, none of the little hanging through. But what's
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: a cultural moment right that it's taking place? And you've
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: seen online that you felt like absolutely needed a Grits
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: and Eggs tape.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: I don't know, Like we talk about everything. The pumpy
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: shit was good, I said, yeah, you know, I think
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: the most recent thing we kind of like fuzz being
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: it's like the whole like Rory in my situation of
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: the tweets, but it's just like I just be thinking,
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: like that fun and like, hey bro pack it up,
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like it's cool because we're
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: kind of in this podcast space, like on some fun
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: friendly stuff like yeah, get up out of the way,
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: like we're making way for ourselves. But like cultural moments,
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: they come and go. If it's too much conversation about
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: it on social media, I don't really feel like I
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: could add that to it. If I don't feel like
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: I could add that if I've got a fresh perspective. Man,
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: I'm cool on it because it's like, like I said,
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: we just regard to having the same thing. If people
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: ask me what my opinion on stuff, and I know
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: a creator that has like a point in opinion, I'll
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: be like, go watch them got you know what I'm saying.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: But I feel like, you know what makes you all
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: successful with y'all got a mission baked in to y'all podcast.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: At least that's what I feel when for sure, So
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: what's the what do you think the intentional through line
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: behind your conversations is?
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: I think you click something yeah, sure.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: And you AI D I T.
• 25:01
  Speaker 8: We'll stop talking for we got got just like that.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: But what do you think the intentional through line behind
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: your conversation?
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: I think, for one, I know I can't change nobody's mind,
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: but I can change that perspective, right. I think that
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: the big overarching thing is like liberation, you know what
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: I'm saying, And liberation outside of the system, liberation outside
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: of the way you're thinking, liberation for black people, like
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: and then it's going to expand of course to like
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: all people of color, all poor people, all people that
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: face oppression. But I think for more than anything, it's
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: like we cifle through, We cycle through a lot of
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: talking points, saying the same ship over and over, and
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: it's never really a situation where I'm trying to help
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: somebody grow. It's just like a lot of people are
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: just happy, like, yeah, I don't think like that, but
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: you do. So I'm smart, you're dumb, I'm rich, you're poor,
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: all these different things. Like I got to like tip
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: the scales like that, Really we can leave opportunity for
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: everybody to grow. And a lot of people don't want
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: to see other girls for whatever reason. But for me,
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: it's like I come from blue collar work, Bro. I
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: know how many brilliant people is out here in the
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: world that don't even have social media. And then I
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: also know there's a lot of brilliant people that can
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: add the conversations that can help us grow and help
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: us see things in a different way because a lot
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: of times, like I said, we live in these echo
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: chambers where we kind of constantly get in the same
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: feedback loops, and a lot of the issues be with
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: self esteem, bro, And like we just it's very easy
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: to tear each other down, And I think that's the
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: route that people take, Like it was, like, you know,
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: it takes a lot more to care about somebody than
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: it do to like, you know, just like cut them
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: deep and just be like that's the easy thing to do.
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: A lot of us grow up in households where that's
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: the play, like cut you down real quick.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: But I don't.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: I want us to actually like be willing to express
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: a love and care for one another publicly.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, how do you avoid that noise?
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Because you know, with a lot of time with podcasts,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: anybody in the public, right you do it for the
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: right reason mostiple anger say everybody does, but most people
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: want to do it for the right reason. They want
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: to help and they realize the people that they're trying
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: to help somehow some way. Terms right, it could be
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: another podcast, there could be another personality. How do you
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: deal with that where you feel like it's it's not
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: a mental thing and you keep going through it and
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: don't let that ball do you affect you and that
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: of your day?
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: I think that first it's just being honest about it
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: that they do about it, you know what I'm saying,
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: Like it don't feel good to be taught about negatively,
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: especially by multitude of people, and to feel misunderstood in
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: the midst of that too. So I can acknowledge the feeling,
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: but I don't got to defend it. I can back
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: up a little bit, like maybe I was wrong, maybe
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: I did say something that miss the mark. But at
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: the same time too, it's like, sometimes you gotta put
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: that phone down, bro, like in a real way, just
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: put the phone down, like gone about your day, and like,
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: you know, I got kids. I like can't spend all
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: day arguing with fouls online. My baby hunger and like that.
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: It can pin a bun of jail time. So hold on,
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: let me respond to this real quick. Got me messed up, like.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: I'm not now you got the kid?
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Up?
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: Like bro, bro, this man tripping bro.
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: And it's like, you know, you got to live your
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: real life too, I think I don't you know.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: Social media.
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: Social media can be affirming, it could be very validating
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: at times, and I also tear you down. So it's
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: like just find the balance and all of it. It's
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: like I take the good just like I take the bad,
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Because if you get caught
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: up in it. It'll people people.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: Having mental breaks, Like people be breaking mentally because my dad, my.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Daddy, you said, you never as good as they say
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: you are, You never as bad as they say exactly.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: And one of my radio mentors and Cadillac Jack, he
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: would say, the rule of ten, three people go agree
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: with you when you say something. Three people will not
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: go agree with you. Four people don't even know what
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: the fun going on.
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I keeping you speak about like how people
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: get certain things from growing up in their household.
• 28:56
  Speaker 6: Do you ever talk about yours? Do you ever talk
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: about yours?
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: For sure.
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: The birth for the Grisons is out of that. Like
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: when my focks split up that joint, it changed a
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: lot in me because when you in the household with
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: people that like really can't stand each other, but they trying.
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: To keep it together for the kids.
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: It's like it informed me so much, like, oh, they
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: don't think we're paying attention for real, or they don't
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: think we could feel like it's tension in here. So
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: I think a lot of that stuff in front of you,
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: making hyper vision it. So then it gets to a
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: position where like when I'm with my parts, I could
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: do whatever I want because he and her, and then
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: when I go with my mama, she's super strict. Now
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: I gotta find a balance and I'm bucking too, like,
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: but you got me missed up. Like I literally just
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: came from a situation where I'm out til one in
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: the morning because my parts, like he get off work,
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: he do bouncing that nightclub.
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: He get home like two o'clock, but he got the car.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: The car so loud, like squeaking.
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: Wise, as long as I'm within eyeshot of the crib,
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: I can hear him coming like from the front of
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: the neighborhood, like all right, y'all boy, y'all here the man.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: We're in the house. And then I'm in the house
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: like that, Yeah, what's up? That happened?
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: But I think, you know, I think the truth is
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: is like as vulnerable as I am about my situation
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: and everything, the thing that I realized is like, once
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: you push through like the kind of anxiety about exposing
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: yourself just being honest about your experience, you realize how
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: many people that went through it too, So you're really
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: actually helping people because they don't feel alone. So you know,
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: we don't talk about several things. I think the biggest thing,
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: the hardest thing for me to kind of come forward
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: was like you know, dealing with sexual saldy as a
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: child and stuff like that. But so many men came
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: out like, bro, if you hear stories about how men
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: lose Dave Virginity's crazy.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: I was eight.
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, me too, eight years old, and it's like it's
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: a babysitter. You can't even say nothing. But it's like
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: if we if we start looking tour.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: They like to laugh about I'm not laugh when it's
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: a guy.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: Deonce, we do not laugh.
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: He just said that his abuser head a Jerry Kill
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: and I didn't like the.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Smell that's mine. I made her quick that man, you.
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: Know what I'm saying, because he like so if she
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: had a swoop on the side, made her quick.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: Where the joke come in?
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: We don't laugh, no, man. When I was young, that's
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: what I told myself. I made her stop doing it
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: because I didn't like to smell her Jerry.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: Reality is I made her stop doing it because it
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: needs Yeah, you're.
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: Being, yeah, but having the conversations like what we're gonna
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: lose by being I think a lot of times it's
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: like I just faking the funt like you everybody Okay,
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: you know you ever hear folks say that like I
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: got whooped and I turned off. You didn't actually didn't
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: this morning. You know what I'm saying, I'm scared eating?
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: Why did you streaming?
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: But but they all right, is I don't talk about it.
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: So if I don't talk about it, I finally acknowledge it,
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: then it can't be bothered.
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: And you know, like we.
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: Talked about this the whole situation, like around food, Like
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: when you grow up poor, it's like you got to
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: eat everything on the plate. So then when you got
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: adults out here, like why you eating a triple cheeseburgers
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: because like they stomach just expanded. They be eating theyself
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: to death since they was eight seven to eight years
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: old because they folks just couldn't afford food.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: So it's like can't waste food. You know what I'm saying.
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: It's a lot of stuff that type out that our childhood.
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: You know, therapy it helps you like recognize some of
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: them stuff too. So when you kind of start unpacking
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: your childhood, you just wonder how many people ain't unpacking.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Their because everything when you I saw I see you
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: on your journey, and I see that you started going
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: to therapy. One thing therapy is gonna teach you that
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: every single thing that you're dealing with as an adult
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: is directly connected to something that happened to you as
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: a child. And you spend so much time as an
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: adult trying to heal that little traumatized little boy.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: Man that fruit front the roof, bro.
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: So whatever fruit you're putting out, it got a root
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: that it started there. And I think acknowledging that, I
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: think one of the most five bars my therapist ever dropped.
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: He was like, a perfection starts at inception, So if
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: you ever made a mistake, you ain't perfect.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: So she stopped trying to be perfect.
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: You know, I was like cold, I would make mistakes
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: at seven.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: Well I'm trying to be perfect.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: I can't be perfect.
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: No, mom, He's like, you missed one shot in the
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: beginning of the game. You can make all the rest
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: of them. It's still ain't one hundred percent. You ain't perfect.
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: So you know, taking that with me too, and then
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: just not if I put it out there, how well
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: it's been received.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: It kind of takes the stigma and the fear away
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: from it.
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: From not only me, but for other people too, and
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: it's like, that's really the girl for real because everybody
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: can't afford therapy. What mean you start going, yeah, bro,
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: this jump started again becoming a lot because dealing with
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: all this notoriety it pull you in several different directions.
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: Then start realizing like now I ain't got as much
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: time as I used to and where I used to
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: unpack these thoughts late at night, it's like, well, I'm
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: thinking about something I did when I was thirteen, and
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: I got to show tomorrow and I got this interview
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: and damn, I double schedule the studio session and I
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: got to like cancel on something, and it's like, damn, bro,
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: I need somewhere to put this and I don't want
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: to put it on somebody. I can't just put my dog,
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: like everything on my partner. Yeah, that's crazy. And the
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: day he got stuff he dealing with too, and it's like, well,
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: there are professionals out here that deal with this. It's
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: like and too, you have been like champion in therapy
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: for black Man for a long time, so you know,
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: I was like you look too. Situations like That're like okay, well,
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: Charlott mane be telling you go therapy, let me go
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: see what he fuk talking about. And I got a
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: black male therapist too, so it's like, you know, I
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: think it's also too important to be an example in
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: that space. Like it's okay, you take the stick my way.
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: We don't be trusting doctors. That's we got good reason
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: behind it. But get your mind right, like, get your
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: mind right for real, because if you don't get your
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: mind right in this space where you're sharing a lot
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: of your mind, you're gonna lose your mind.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Is your therapist culturally competent? You know?
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's from Northfolk, Virginia.
• 35:04
  Speaker 7: Okay, do you talk to your therapists about certain things
• 35:07
  Speaker 7: you decide to divoge on your podcast or TikTok or
• 35:10
  Speaker 7: whatever first before you do it?
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: Oh nah, man, we'll be talking about me.
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: Okay, really you know what I'm saying, Like the stuff
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: I won't share because it's like you got to keep
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: stuff for yourself too, you can't get folks.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: But then also to.
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: Some stuff you know, you know, I got my own
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: shortcomings and perfections too that I want to work through
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: and like as I grow in this space, like it's
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: great to boom and have a great career. But like
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: if you stay routed in the same mentality or you
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: keep packing stuff away, you know, that's where you see
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: people crash out because he was like, dangn brother, just
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: snap one day. But it's like he been dealing with
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: all the pressures of being a provider, making all the
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: money and holding up this image and stuff like that.
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: A lot of this stuff do come with, like having
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: a reputation, being reputable, being trustworthy, being a.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: Source of truth.
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: You know, that come with pressure too because you want
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: to maintain the integrity of the stuff too. But then
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: you slipping in other parts of your life, that ship
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: are gonna compound it be a rout for you.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: That's what about you?
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: What's your childhood?
• 36:07
  Speaker 8: Childhood?
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: I had this lit childhood. I ain't going out to.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: You cool your trauma.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: T I don't have trauma.
• 36:22
  Speaker 9: But as far as like overall my childhood, like my
• 36:25
  Speaker 9: parents gave me a great childhood. My dad did this
• 36:29
  Speaker 9: thing in the streets, went to prison. So that's like
• 36:32
  Speaker 9: how where my trauma come from? Because I never I
• 36:34
  Speaker 9: like always said, no matter how broke, I am ain't
• 36:37
  Speaker 9: gonna see on no drugs because being in the call
• 36:40
  Speaker 9: when you were a kid and driving through the middle
• 36:42
  Speaker 9: of know where to go to a prison. That should
• 36:44
  Speaker 9: do something to you, you know what I'm saying, Because
• 36:46
  Speaker 9: then I had to leave my dad. That's my dog nowhere, Yeah,
• 36:51
  Speaker 9: in the middle of nowhere. But but yeah, so like
• 37:01
  Speaker 9: just seeing that and like going to a prison and
• 37:04
  Speaker 9: seeing my dad have to these white people talking to
• 37:06
  Speaker 9: my dad crazy, like getting in line and do this ship.
• 37:09
  Speaker 9: That is where my trauma come from. So I always said,
• 37:11
  Speaker 9: I never put my woman on my kid.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: Do that, you know what I'm saying.
• 37:16
  Speaker 9: So, like I said, no matter how broke I am,
• 37:19
  Speaker 9: I'd be thinking about it, like now, well I can
• 37:21
  Speaker 9: get off of brick right now, yep. But then the
• 37:24
  Speaker 9: other part of it, I've seen the other part of
• 37:26
  Speaker 9: a lot of people don't talk about that. They just
• 37:28
  Speaker 9: talk about, yeah, my dad was this in the street.
• 37:31
  Speaker 9: But do you ever go see your dad in prison?
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: That shit crazy?
• 37:35
  Speaker 9: So yeah, that's that's That's the only thing traumba for
• 37:37
  Speaker 9: my childhood. But other than that, everything I wanted.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: And y'all met early, y'all met, Like we're saying that
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: about your father. You know, there was this whole thing
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: with Mike Capsta. Think about it last week when they
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: was like mad at him because he said you shouldn't
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: celebrate people when the home out of prison. What y'all
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: thought about that?
• 37:56
  Speaker 9: I mean, we say this all the time. People who
• 37:58
  Speaker 9: get celebrated coming out of prison. We celebrate them more
• 38:01
  Speaker 9: than people that come home from college. You know what
• 38:03
  Speaker 9: I'm saying. Naw, you shouldn't really get celebrated because you
• 38:05
  Speaker 9: can't hold a prison. But were happy to see you, you.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying.
• 38:09
  Speaker 9: But also your cousin in college, you're struggling to eat
• 38:12
  Speaker 9: every night. We gotta get him that money. You in jail.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: You know, of course we gonna help you when we can,
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: but ship you need to help too.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: More do you do?
• 38:21
  Speaker 9: But when you come home, we go celebrate you, But
• 38:22
  Speaker 9: we should also celebrate you know, the cousin that's coming
• 38:24
  Speaker 9: home from college that just graduated.
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: And in our community, I think we don't see that enough.
• 38:28
  Speaker 9: And I think, like, you know, that's that's like a
• 38:30
  Speaker 9: big thing in our community, celebrating people that come from jail.
• 38:33
  Speaker 9: Because go ahead, bay stress, because yeah, because like we
• 38:39
  Speaker 9: see that more in our community, people going to jail
• 38:41
  Speaker 9: then people going to college. And it's like, you know,
• 38:43
  Speaker 9: how can we relate? So when you get somebody to
• 38:45
  Speaker 9: go to college, it's like, all right, well you're home
• 38:46
  Speaker 9: now that.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: What he's supposed to do.
• 38:48
  Speaker 9: What about the person that went to jail what they
• 38:50
  Speaker 9: were supposed to do? Yeah, so come home, get in line,
• 38:52
  Speaker 9: get that job, get that trade. We go help you out.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: We ain't even throw no bigg ass party.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: For you at your kids? Right, How does the trauma
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: that that you had as a child affect how you
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: raise your kids?
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: Man, bro, I already know that I'm just not gonna
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: get everything right when you get out of your.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: Look, man, the lder you get, the more like you
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: just understand your parents With people, I honestly, when I
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: make a mistake, I apologize to my children, like directly,
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: straight up. I love on my kids lot because ween't
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: come from a very effictionate household. I'm thinking, do you
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: know I don't remember. I know I was in teenage
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: years and like kind of cutting up before my folks.
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: It was like vocally said I love you.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: So I kind of killed the superman early with them, Like, look, bro,
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: I make mistakes, I mess up. I'm not perfect. You're
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: not perfect. You're not gonna be perfect.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: But that doesn't kill a superman because they still think
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: thatad he's Superman.
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I'm talking about that fiction is like, you know,
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: I used to think my parents knew everything. Bro y'all
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: was winging it brou because like it be times where
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm fucking winging. I'm winging it right now.
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: I don't got it figured out, you know what I'm saying.
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: I'm like, Bro, it's a little Caesars. That's what I
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: got on me right now. It's not like but and
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: I want you want to dress it up like it's
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: a piece of party. It's like, nah, we broke because
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: that's where we are with it. We messed up. We're
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: gonna get two pieces for a little Caesars, you know
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying. We're gonna rock out, eat it while
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: it's hot, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, But I
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: think more than anything, it's like you just try to
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: minimize it. Like for the most part, I'm gonna take
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: everything from my parents that I feel like they did
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: right and in part of their wisdom to my children
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: because it worked for me and things I feel like
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: they did wrong. I don't think we gotta demonize it,
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: but just learn from it. Why did they think like that?
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: That's the understanding why they did the day?
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: I mean like sometimes I look back at my dad
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: and I would hate when it's like you got to
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: be home with this time. You can't go there now
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: when I got kids, I'm.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: Like, that's why you said it.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: Now you can't go there. But the difference is, I explain,
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: as I said, so you just took it.
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: Asked why, well I couldn't. Why you know what I mean,
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: that's because she couldn't. Right, You look at that as
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: a form of disrespect, like you are you questioning my judgment?
• 41:16
  Speaker 6: Is like, yeah, I am.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: And when and when did that start with black people?
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: Well, we couldn't question that, so we carry that into
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: our households and we just got to continue, you know,
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: Like I get the idea of breaking generational curses is cool,
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: but it's like I ain't gonna say my fault cursed me.
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: I think we just we're healing generation by generation. We
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: come from a rough beginning in this country, and that
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: stuff staying on a on a genetic level of staying.
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: So I think more than anything. I try to recognize, Like.
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: When I'm repeating some of those behaviors too, I try
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: not to, like try to be slow to anger. But
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: you don't get it right all the time. Sometimes kids
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: be tripping, like they do.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: What's with you?
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: Like that?
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. You try, But I think
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: the same thing too, is like you just got to
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: take the ego out of these people. They little people.
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: They don't know.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: I used to say no for no reason.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: You do not get to know.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: Why did you say.
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: Because you can because because that's what you used to
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: You just used to know, just like and then it's
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: like to my point, it's like your parents don't tell you,
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: like what the finance situation is, and then like you
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: gotta ask your mama, Like, bro, you know the Dreamcast
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: came out, get the face, like.
• 42:31
  Speaker 9: Yeah, but you put more pressure on it though I
• 42:35
  Speaker 9: just seen I just seen the commercial.
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: But I don't know what you're going through.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: But that's really about to say.
• 42:42
  Speaker 9: You just put more pressure on on your parents at
• 42:44
  Speaker 9: that point because they don't they don't know how to
• 42:46
  Speaker 9: say like I ain't got it, I ain't got it
• 42:48
  Speaker 9: because they want and they eyes they wanted you to
• 42:50
  Speaker 9: look at them like they got everything. They can provide
• 42:53
  Speaker 9: everything for you. And sometimes been telling myself like, brother,
• 42:55
  Speaker 9: I ain't got it right now. Brom'st in sixteen, so
• 42:58
  Speaker 9: I'll be like ship Bro sometimes and he was loving
• 43:01
  Speaker 9: b I ain't got that shit right now now a little.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: Bit, you know what I'm saying.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: But one reason that we are head of the curve
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: is because we not afraid to tell our kids our stories. Man,
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: We're not afraid. When I started to, you know, go
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: to therapy and start talking about my mental health issue,
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: That's what my dad opened up to me. I ain't
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: know my dad was on ten to twelve different medications
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: for his mental health. I didn't know he tried to
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: commit suicide. I didn't know he was going through a
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: therapist two and three times a week. But when he
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: told me that, man, I give it just made me
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: give him all the grace in the world come like
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: he was just a man trying to figure it out.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: Like I'm a man trying to figure it out, right,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: But it's just good to tell our kids our stories.
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and even with your or the faults, like you
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: can extend grace tong once you learn that story.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: Some people ain't gonna change.
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: I think a situation like we kind of grow up
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: in this situation where we ready to cut everybody off
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: of everything. We got enough contact with everybody. That's an
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: avoidant style of dealing with stuff too. I'd rather just
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: get you out my life. But I also understand on
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: the other side of that, it's like, man, you can't
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: just gonna be disrespecting me. You know what I'm saying.
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: You're gonna recognize me as a girl and human too.
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: And I understand a void like like just giving folk
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: space when you realize they ag ready to grow so
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: you can continue to grow too. Cause like trying to
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: change somebody's mind, bro, that's the hardest thing. That's hard
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: to change your ownline about stuff.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't deal with the person that hadn't recognized
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: your growth on me. Ain't even just your family, just
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: anybody in general. Like I'm sure y'all got people from
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: high school. That's like still trying to talk to y'all,
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: like y'all haven't grown and who y'all are now? You
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: know what I mean?
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: If you calling me from high school, you're STI talking
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: about it in high school. I don't want to talk
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: to you. Yeah, I don't want to kick it, which
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: you can chop that bro.
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: Even going back to what you said Kat, just now,
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: you were talking about having a child and you're saying
• 44:39
  Speaker 5: just no because you can, and then you're putting the
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: pressure on. Yeah, you were talking about putting the pressure
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: on the parent because you know they ain't got it.
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: They don't know how to say it.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: My sons seeing the best of both worlds because I
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: didn't always have it right and now I do, you know,
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: and been having it right. But I still don't like
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: to you just give him because we got it now,
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean?
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Like what are your thoughts on that?
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: Because some people bought out of control all the time
• 45:09
  Speaker 5: because they got it now and they didn't have it before.
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: But I want my son, I want ask them to
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: be open minded. I don't want him to be entitled.
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: I don't it's certain things I don't want him, oh
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: just because my mother got this, oh you know, and they're.
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: Just a black experience. Yeah, I don't like to.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: Give him everything he asked. So like the christ if
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: you saw this Christmas list, but.
• 45:28
  Speaker 9: Sid, your son can't from trugtle with you though, like
• 45:30
  Speaker 9: we've seen your son grow up with you, you know what
• 45:32
  Speaker 9: I'm saying. That's amazing too, though, But you know, it's
• 45:35
  Speaker 9: just you have to balance it out.
• 45:36
  Speaker 5: But I ain't get him everything on the Christmas list.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: It's wrong for them.
• 45:40
  Speaker 9: I'm not getting no because you got to teach him
• 45:43
  Speaker 9: like some shit you got to earn.
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: Some shit can be given. Some shing you gotta earn.
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. You can't give him everything.
• 45:48
  Speaker 9: If you give a person everything, they feel entired, like,
• 45:51
  Speaker 9: oh shit, I can get it whatever I want to get.
• 45:53
  Speaker 5: And I have no complaints. I'm talking about straight a.
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: My son smart as a mom like me, you know, but.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: I would say he's smarter, but that's that's good. Supposed
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: to be smarter than.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: He's supposed to be smarter.
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: My son is smart.
• 46:13
  Speaker 5: But even still, I have no problem out of my kid.
• 46:15
  Speaker 5: But still it's just something about getting him everything that
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: he asks for when he asks for it. I have
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: no issues with my son. I just still don't want
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: to do that getting every single thing.
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: No, we should.
• 46:29
  Speaker 9: We should be able to spoil our children, you know,
• 46:31
  Speaker 9: because the other side spoil their children, you know what
• 46:33
  Speaker 9: I'm saying.
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
• 46:39
  Speaker 9: But the other side, you know, they had to look,
• 46:41
  Speaker 9: you know, can't tell me nothing. We come from a
• 46:44
  Speaker 9: place where you know, a lot of us came from
• 46:46
  Speaker 9: humble beginnings. So we ain't always have everything, you know
• 46:50
  Speaker 9: what I'm saying. So that's that's that's where it comes from.
• 46:52
  Speaker 9: It's like a mental thing like I don't want to
• 46:53
  Speaker 9: give everything because ship I ain't have everything, but my
• 46:56
  Speaker 9: mom did try to give me what she could. But
• 46:58
  Speaker 9: you can give them what you what you want. And
• 47:00
  Speaker 9: that's a difference, and I think it's way your struggle.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: But you know, on the other end of that, because
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: I go back and forth about this, A lot of
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: parents when they die, they give their kids something right,
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: and I never wanted that to be me. I want
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: to see my parents enjoy. I want to see me
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: my kids enjoy what I work hard, like, I want
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: to see it. I don't want to give it to
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: them when they die. I want to see it. And
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: then on another thing, I always say, we work hard sometimes,
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: but we want our kids to struggle, and I don't
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: want I didn't want that to be my kids. I
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: want them to do what they want to do, right,
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: because at the end of the life, you realize life
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: is short, right, and at the end of the day,
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: it doesn't matter how much money you got, is matter.
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: How happy you are.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: So if I could set your life up where you
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: can do if you want to do nails, if it
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: makes you happy, you're happy. I don't care.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: That's not my life.
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: I just want you to be happy. You don't got
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: to be a billionaire, you ain't got to be one
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: hundred million yet. But if you happy making one hundred
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: thousand dollars a year and you're genuinely happy, that's better
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: than most people out here that's not happy that makes
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: all this money. I try to set up their life
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: where it's like, let me guide you, where you could
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: just do what you want to do. Because as a kid,
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: when I said I wanted to be a d J,
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: everybody laugh like, nigga, you can't be no DJ. And
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: I'm sure y'all heard the same thing when y'all said,
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: y'all want to do the podcast. So it's like, that's
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: what I want for my kids in my family, just
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: want them to be happy.
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, my son wanted to be a gamer, but
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: then I watched them and like he sucks, so it's
• 48:14
  Speaker 5: like you can't do the game, but he's great at sports.
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good.
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: I think that real though, bro, Like you know, I
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: told my kids like you, like people tell you can
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: be anything in the world you want.
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: You could be with you good at you know what
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: I'm saying.
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: You second, math, why are you trying to be a
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: rock sized It's just like sugg Justice, know what I'm saying,
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: attle Bit you're great with words, Yeah, slam.
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: Poetry may be when you say that because he hates
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: to see his kid slim, I'm crazy.
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: It's just dramatic. That's not like anime. It's just ramatic.
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: You just you the she was just yeah, we got
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: something drop on her. It's not it's not that, it's
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: just you know, like I wish that I.
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: Could see.
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm talking about, just that genre and when
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: you can see that, the d isn't for me.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: L G B T.
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: A real breakfast club.
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but keeping a balance with your kids is important
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: to because I think you don't want to get to
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: receiving And then also one of the worst things as
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: a parent is like when you give your child something
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: and you don't feel like they're grateful, like you feel
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: like it's like but you got to internalize it too,
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: So it's like you kind of you can't just you
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: can't make somebody be grateful. But I think, you know,
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: I tell my kids like it be limits on everything
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: to Like my son, he get a fourteen, you know,
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: like their generation is looking at like Lamping's and is
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: that how you pronounce that whatever?
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: Designer? They look at that like regular Degglar.
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: I'm like I told him, I was like, you know
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: anything that I will rock Nike, you know, Dadas whatever
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: like regular Doglar. I'm with you. When you start talking
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: designer that stuff, you gotta go get your own. You
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: heard of that, you know what I'm saying, Like twelve hundred.
• 50:35
  Speaker 9: Yeah, like it got them form but ship but right, yeah,
• 50:39
  Speaker 9: but how many hours did the airport for them get
• 50:42
  Speaker 9: twelve niggas their port all day?
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Like I told my son, yeah, sixteen.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: Sixteen you bought Wow, but flying fresh.
• 50:55
  Speaker 9: They come from my childhood though, you know what I'm saying,
• 50:57
  Speaker 9: It's like my daddy had it like that, you know
• 51:00
  Speaker 9: what I'm saying.
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: So what I like, Shit, your.
• 51:01
  Speaker 9: Dad wasn't working at the airport, was he was he
• 51:03
  Speaker 9: wasn't working at the airport. But I've seen this shit.
• 51:05
  Speaker 9: Like if I asked for it, I probably wouldn't get
• 51:08
  Speaker 9: it that week, but I get it next week, you
• 51:10
  Speaker 9: know what I'm saying.
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: So it's just like damn.
• 51:13
  Speaker 9: In my mind is like the pressure like what I'm saying,
• 51:15
  Speaker 9: the pressure like that, how can I keep it?
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: Like my dad was a great dad, even in prison.
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: My dad was a gret dad. My dad told me
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: how to watch the dishes over the phone. You know
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Do this, go, do that. He told
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: me to cut the grays on the phone. You feel me.
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: But I'll be like, damn, how can I keep it
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: with my dad?
• 51:28
  Speaker 9: I ain't got the money that my dad had to
• 51:30
  Speaker 9: throw away, but ship, I still want to be a
• 51:31
  Speaker 9: great dad, you know what I'm saying.
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: That's why I like compete with myself.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: Like I mean, I mean you are you already are? Yeah,
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: You're a better father than your father because just being
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: free physically.
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: I always tell my kids that when they think I'm
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: being hard on them, It's like, bro, I'm not focused on.
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: You, the twelve year old, I'm focused on you the
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: twenty two year olds.
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: Real you know, you're raising it like we're raising we're
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: raising children, but they're going to be a They're gonna
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: function in the world, and a lot of how they
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: function is gonna start from how they was in the household.
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: So if they feel entitled because their mom and get
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: them everything they want, that's gonna spill over the jobs,
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: that's gonna spill over the partners, that's gonna spill over
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: to so many different.
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: Relationships in your life.
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: It's just like keeping bound You got boundaries with your
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: cheersren too, you know what I'm saying. And you allow
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: your kids to have boundaries with you as a parent,
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: you know.
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: What I mean?
• 52:19
  Speaker 7: Yeah, speaking of parenting you uh your TikTok video about
• 52:24
  Speaker 7: your biological mom being white, Yeah, that sparked so much
• 52:28
  Speaker 7: like conversation around identity and like being a biracial kid
• 52:32
  Speaker 7: and you know what made you want to share that
• 52:34
  Speaker 7: and particalarly going through that.
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: So it was just you know, you just start talking
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: about yourself, like honestly, my mom and dad in two
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: thousand nineteen, I didn't look Yeah, yeah, I didn't know.
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: I didn't know I was a doctor. So I found
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: out post her. I was adopted at two days old,
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: you did what I'm saying. So of course that is
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: gonna spark up a whole bunch of stuff around identity
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: and things like that. But for me it was liberating
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: because I was like, brod, I knew I went't crazy.
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: Bro Yeah, we ain't all in here looking alike. You know,
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: I'm I'm add aball out on how we looked.
• 53:06
  Speaker 6: It was just a physical looking or did you feel
• 53:08
  Speaker 6: away and turning?
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: No?
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: No, it's like it's everything. I don't think the way.
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: It's a lot of different things, you know what I'm saying.
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: But for me it was just like really, it's like
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna let you hear it from the horse's mouth
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: because it was it was all TikTok videos that was resarchcing,
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: and people was like, see, he ain't no black leader,
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: he ain't even black. It's like shouty my mom and
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: daddy black. I was adopted at two days old. I
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: don't even know these folks. For one, I don't know
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: if these folks white or not. I don't know them.
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: And only only thing I know is JUHNK. We just
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: joke about being Scottish because I did a little ancestor
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: like you know when you first time find something out
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: you like, I don't know, it's like, oh, I'm thirty
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: percent Scottish, I'm forty percent not gym like real, you
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: know what I mean, I'm a Scottish Nigerian. I just
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: but I'm going through like my own moutions are like
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: accepting it. And then I went through a lot of
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: angry phases about this. But you gonna try to discredit
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: who I am because of something you say? Hey, I
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: tell you you know what I'm saying. You ain't gonna
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: take it like you can't hear from the horse's mouth.
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: It wasn't really about defending anything. It's just like noah, yeah, yeah,
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: now what because like you ain't got this credit me Bro,
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: Like it's it's it's a couple of creators.
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: They are like, it's the men be obsessed with me.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: Bro.
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: They make videos about me all day every day and
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: it's like yeah, and I'll be like, it's free promoting.
• 54:28
  Speaker 6: That just reacts to your content, even your old content.
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's loved though, because even fake pages like bro
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: they all promote me. My my they page is full
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: of my face. Once they refined the real thing we live.
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: But I think for me, it was just like clarifying,
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: like this ain't nothing I'm running away from, bro. And
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: that's the same time, it's like I was two days old. Bro,
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: I don't know them people. I don't know nothing about them.
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: I don't really desire to either. Your biologic Yeah, yeah,
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: well I heard stories.
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: I really don't like even my folks don't know. My
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: mama was swore the fuck secret. But then you find out,
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: like your mama having warm issues and stuff like that,
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: it's a miracle for her, bro to be able to
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: get a baby. So it's like, yeah, Bro, I'm not
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: tripping on that, you know what I mean. Like, whatever
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: them folks had going on, that was their arrangement.
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: I was here. My folks raised me. Well, you know
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: what I'm saying.
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: They had their own shortcomings and stuff, but I was
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: raising the household of love, and I learned so much
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: from my household, you know what I mean. And my
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: family taught me so much. It's like, I'm not discarding
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: that because I get some new information, you know what
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: I'm saying. I'm already in. I'm already whole, So I
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: don't really need to go looking for none. I don't
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: feel no for it, you know what I mean?
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: You know, one stereo type they always say, they'll say
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: that light skinned black people are biracials, will be overly black,
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: overly revolutionary. Yeah, that's probably what they try to come in.
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah they did. But it's like, yeah, I ain't never
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: know nothing about it. You know, I ain't know.
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: I had nothing to compensate for, you know what I
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: mean in my neighborhood. But it's like being light skinned.
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: It's like I see life skin folks all the time.
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: I see mixed folks all the time. Like all I
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: know is this community. I ain't never really seen no difference.
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: But I understand, I can understand the psychology but trying behind,
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: trying to over compensate. But that just ain't my vibe.
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: But the dog skinning brothers with boll heads that.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: Hettle jump you in this mother he.
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: Almost hard art that feet don't touch the ground, you
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: know you're surrounded. See that's the thing too, is like
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: like it's it's like, you know, the funniest thing to
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: me is like, uh like when certain black men to
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: be like yeah, you know them them light skinning them
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: by racials like, Bro, you don't want to make it.
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: Bro, that's a fact. Stop sleeping with white women. You
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: gotta worry about.
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: Manout somewhere like.
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: Love you love, But like bro, like you you you know,
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: I ain't go out there like they be coming for
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: him on and I'll be.
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: Ready to cry, I'll be ready to fight off.
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: But he'd be like, but.
• 56:59
  Speaker 9: They's on line. But we come from a real place.
• 57:02
  Speaker 9: Like the nigga talks about my dog. I'm really slepting,
• 57:04
  Speaker 9: you know what I'm saying. So it would be loving person.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, loving person you don't want to picture, you know
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: Every single time, Like I think one of the biggest,
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: one of the biggest haters.
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: I got like as to be on the podcast and
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: I just didn't respond the time.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: Happened all the time.
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: Now you never never you up. We never talked about Cooper.
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: Nobody hate to question being that you don't know who
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: your biological parents are. Just ice scare you.
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: Matross my mind.
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: We can jentlem if you.
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: Want, you know, smoke crazy in the back outs on
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: the real web side that you know what the funniest
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: thing is Like when I was younger, you know, you
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: get the breasht cut. You know, won't we won't go
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: waves at junk. You know you really you're really struggling
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: to try to get some waves. I was like, man,
• 58:05
  Speaker 4: I ain't doing that. So, uh, my partners used to
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: joke with me, like when we was roast, they called
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: me dis broader your mixing a one time me and
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: my home boy had went we was like breaking in
• 58:17
  Speaker 4: cars and stuff, and I guess whatever the word got
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: like we was on foot. Now that's so stupid breaking
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: the car while you're on feet. But the police pulled
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: this over and they was like going at my partner
• 58:26
  Speaker 4: and it was like you you speak English. I was like, no,
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: it's not.
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: Like indimitably English, Nigga, the Kings English, the Queens work.
• 58:53
  Speaker 7: Speaking of the love of the creator showed so much
• 58:56
  Speaker 7: love one of the podcasts he listened to it with
• 58:59
  Speaker 7: the cutting room floor. After talking about people that got
• 59:01
  Speaker 7: podcasts are not smart.
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: Said gross, You actually said podcasts are gross?
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you feel me.
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: It's love, bro, You know, we get a lot of love,
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: and that's what matter for real. Like you know when
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: people walk up, like even with Tyler knowing he just
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: don't like nothing.
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: It's like, oh, that's love.
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: But I think more than anything, when people walk up
• 59:23
  Speaker 4: and they're like, man, man, my son taught me to
• 59:24
  Speaker 4: listen to your podcast, And then on the opposite out side,
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: it's like man, my son, like, like my dad told
• 59:30
  Speaker 4: me to listen to you, Well, my mom taught me
• 59:32
  Speaker 4: to listen to Like it's intergenerational thing. I know we're
• 59:36
  Speaker 4: doing the right thing because, like what we're trying to
• 59:38
  Speaker 4: really do is bridge gaps. Like we got a lot
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: of gaps in our community around differences, but our experience
• 59:45
  Speaker 4: is extremely the same. And it's like, bro, you want
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: to let one little thing that you don't have in
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: common with a person separate you when all the other
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: experiences you can relate to, that's a little foolish. It's like,
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: you know, I ain't with no division. So if we
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: bridging gaps and it's like a family thing, you know,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 4: folks watching this like me and my man watch this,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: Me and my girlfriend wate this, Like, bro, that's the love.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: That's what we focus on. The love.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do. I got two more questions learn about
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: one bet right from I heard you talking about systems
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: and that we had Christopher Williams up here and he
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: was talking about that as well, and I feel the
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: same way. And I don't know we'll ever truly be
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: able to change the system. I don't even know if
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: that's a pessimistic mindset to have, but I do feel
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: like we can liberate ourselves with fitnesses, like that's really
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: the only way to be to achieve anything. Really.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: I think that's a lot about what like intersectionality is about.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: It's like people want to tear down the dismount of
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: systems that for one, they really don't know how to work.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: They just know how they work against them.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: You know, they you know how how it feels to
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: be oppressed, but like you don't understand like the history
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: of these system how they was built and things like that.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: So you know, you tear everything down, do you have
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: a community you can rely on? Do you like what
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: you're gonna do? Do you have the tools to rebuild it?
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: And I think because of like film and movie, we
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: think doing the gloom, we think mad Max, and we
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: think the world just gonna end and be anarchy. But
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 4: I think you know, within understanding, that's how you operate,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 4: you know, like at work, anybody like Finesse, at work,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 4: like Big K used to be finishing at the Mercedes beans. Bro,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: He's to be like, he know, if I get this
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: amount of money, I could put that back in the
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: Jory and get that back to the company and the
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 4: rest I could pocket. He operating within the system, but
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: he benefited himself. It's like that, what do you folks do?
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 4: Like looking for me that.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 7: You don't.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, But look, I think that
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: the bigger thing is this is just like you know,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: I'll be telling my partners in the hour of time. Like, Bro,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: if you shut your phone off for two weeks, you
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: ain't gonna know what's going on in the world, but
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: you'll know what's going on in your world.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: And like, so sometimes you gotta just focus on that part.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: Like if we focus on like the big the big
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 4: picture of America all.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: The time, like that stretch you out. B.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: These folks have entire like corporations designed to push negative
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: media towards you every day. Like sometimes you gotta take
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 4: a break, like a lot of you know this this
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: all this technology is fairly new, so like and we
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: obsessed over it.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: It's like, just take a break. B.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 4: It's like five bit you know, recoup, like because you
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 4: can't really be helpful to the community anyway if you're
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: not good with yourself.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: We all got work to do.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 4: But you know, the bigger system, at largest system that
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: we've been fighting since we came here. So I think
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: continue to fight we seen which is white supremacis yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: and I think you know, and capitalism too. But I
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: think to continue that fight while also continue to like
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 4: embrace each other and strengthen our bond within our community.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: That's the most important part. You know. It's a it's
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: a we're gonna chip away out a little bit of
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: a time, you know what I mean.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: My last question's something the podcast industry doesn't prepare creators.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: Success.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: What jo Joe said, it ramp up, you know, Like
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: I think the biggest thing is too, it's like what
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: you're gonna do when it when it happened. But also
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 4: like it's gonna be days where you just like just
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 4: like a job, like you don't feel like it, but
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 4: you really got to tighten up and get to it
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 4: because now you've got an audience, you got people depend
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: on you.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: It's like the thing is is like you don't want
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: them to go away.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, just being consistent, and then I think podcasting in
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 4: general for us, it's shit easy.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 7: Bro.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 4: We just being ourselves, you know what I'm saying, We
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: represent ourselves. So as long as I know, I ain't
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 4: I ain't hear faking the funk. I ain't got no gimmick,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. It's just like we being ourselves.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 4: That's what makes it easy. But scheduling, staying on top
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 4: of the thing, building the team, finding the team, you
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, finding good people, getting over the
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 4: anxiety and feeling like everybody trying to take and still
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: you know, just be opportunistic. Like you know, it's a
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 4: lot of stuff that come with it, but you just
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 4: a day at the time for real. When you manage it,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 4: you can.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: When you say success, you mean like the notoriety that
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: comes before the money. You say, you still work at
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: the airport.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: No, No, I was at I was at airport. Not
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: the notoriety, the part.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 4: It's the part where it's actually a functioning system, Like
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: we're making money out of this. We're feeding ourselves, we
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 4: feeding each other, We able to hire people, you know
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Things like that where it's like, oh shit,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 4: I just was like driving truck. That was the easy part.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 4: I knew my routes, I knew everything. Now I'm giving
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 4: people they routes, you know what I'm saying. And metaphorically,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 4: but being being in charge, you know what I'm saying.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 4: I want to be a leader one and I want
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 4: to be a boss, you know what I mean. But
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 4: leading by example is a tough thing to do too,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 4: because everybody just see it as like, damn, you make
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 4: it look easier.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: It's like, well, you ain't gonna you ain't. You ain't
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: in the room me at three am, Like oh my god,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: what the fuck have I got myself into? You know
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: what I'm saying. But it's real though.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 4: It's like and I think keeping the balance of like
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, It's gonna be peaks and valleys,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 4: but you just keep going.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, to keep going for sure? Right?
• 1:04:57
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• 1:05:39
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