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Dr. Mitch Ghen, Anti-Aging and Holistic · Ageless and Timeless Podcast®

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Speaker 1: Good morning everyone. This is Michelle Hughes from Ageless and Timeless.
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Speaker 1: Sorry about the very hoarse voice today. I've been talking
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Speaker 1: a lot the last few days of my travels to
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Speaker 1: my family gathering, and I think I caught a little
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Speaker 1: cold being on an airplane. So anyway, our guest today
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Speaker 1: is someone I've been dying to have on my podcast
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Speaker 1: for a very long time. I've known as him through
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Speaker 1: several people that we know in common, doctor Robert Goldman
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Speaker 1: from American Academy of Anti Aging, who's the co founder
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Speaker 1: and a good friend of mine and has mentioned Doctor
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Speaker 1: Gen to me, as well as Roberto Batta from hugh
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Speaker 1: Light USA, who's another very good friend. And Doctor Mitch
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Speaker 1: is the scientific advisor for as you Like, so he'll
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Speaker 1: be talking to us a little bit about that today,
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Speaker 1: about that responsibility.
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Speaker 2: And my personal.
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Speaker 1: Physician, doctor Nina Sashtav in Beverly Hills, is a very
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Speaker 1: good friend of Dr Mitch. That's just three people, right,
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Speaker 1: Dr Mitch, and we probably have many many others. And
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Speaker 1: I just want to say before I let you take over,
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Speaker 1: that you are one of the most parapatetic omnipresent fourth
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Speaker 1: is in the medical world, and you know you just
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Speaker 1: can't even begin to talk about all your accomplishments. It
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Speaker 1: would take me the whole hour that we have today
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Speaker 1: to tell everybody. So I'm going to let you tell
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Speaker 1: people what you're most proud of and your journey to
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Speaker 1: this place that you are at today. So why don't
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Speaker 1: you take over. Welcome Dodor Mitch to Ageless and Timeless.
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Speaker 3: Oh Michelle, thank you so much. It's a pleasure to
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Speaker 3: be on your podcast today. And I don't want you
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Speaker 3: dying to have me on. I'd rather you live a
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Speaker 3: long life. You have a lot to do for everyone,
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Speaker 3: so stay with us, and I appreciate the introduction. It's
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Speaker 3: very nice, and yes, we probably have a lot more
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Speaker 3: people in common. You asked me what was the most
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Speaker 3: important part of my being in this space. That answer
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Speaker 3: is probably multifactorial, and I think what I need to
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Speaker 3: do to explain that to you would be best to
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Speaker 3: go back to when I was the chief intern of
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Speaker 3: a hospital many years ago. Since I've been in this
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Speaker 3: space forty four plus years, and as the chief intern
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Speaker 3: of the hospital, I watched many people that were assigned
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Speaker 3: to different internal medicine groups get out of the hospital
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Speaker 3: at varying rates. But there was specifically one group that
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Speaker 3: got people out of the hospital much faster. I'm talking
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Speaker 3: days faster. I'm thinking, Hm, what did they do that
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Speaker 3: I don't know about? So I watched very closely and
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Speaker 3: I noticed, and we're talking a long time ago even
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Speaker 3: to say something like this, but they were using very
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Speaker 3: high doseed like fifty thousand milligrams of vitamin C intravenously.
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Speaker 3: So that to me already was WHOA, this is very
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Speaker 3: different that what I was trained about in medical school. Actually,
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Speaker 3: in this second semester of medical school, we actually did
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Speaker 3: an assignment in physiology, this study of functionality, and they said, oh, everyone,
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Speaker 3: go grab your urine. We're going to check it for
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Speaker 3: vitamin C. Now take five hundred milligrams of vitamin C
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Speaker 3: by mouth, and then check it again in an hour.
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Speaker 3: Oh look, a lot of it's in, you know, in
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Speaker 3: the toilet already. And I said, huh. But there was
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Speaker 3: something obviously I didn't understand. That experiment was pretty much
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Speaker 3: skewed and left out the fact that physiologically the use
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Speaker 3: of that vitamin C lasted up to three weeks. So
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Speaker 3: there's something I didn't know and something I needed to know.
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Speaker 3: So at this point, I'm saying to myself, what would
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Speaker 3: be my objective in this lifetime as a physician. Could
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Speaker 3: I just go along and be sort of the run
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Speaker 3: of the mill and do what I was taught to
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Speaker 3: do and provide medications and band aid everything and use
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Speaker 3: the if then philosophy, meaning that if you get something,
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Speaker 3: we'll do something about it. If you have high blood presure,
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Speaker 3: let's give you a medicine. Ye have cholesterol, let's give
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Speaker 3: you another medicine. You have diabetes, will give you another medicine.
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Speaker 3: And then I said, gosh, that isn't fixing anything. It's
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Speaker 3: bandating the issue. And I realized that for me, I
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Speaker 3: needed to look at a question that was hardly asked,
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Speaker 3: and even today in the medical community, is often not asked.
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Speaker 3: And that's why, why, Michelle, do you end up with
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Speaker 3: these issues? Why suddenly at eighteen you don't have high
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Speaker 3: blood pressure? You do?
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Speaker 1: Now?
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Speaker 3: Why suddenly at eighteen you don't have diabetes? Now you do?
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Speaker 3: And that why would always pretty much rotate back to
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Speaker 3: the biochemistry and or physiology of that human and the
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Speaker 3: only way that me as a physician could think out
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Speaker 3: of the box and change things. And I'll tell you
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Speaker 3: what I mean by change things in a moment is
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Speaker 3: to know someone's biochemistry and individual physiology, in other words,
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Speaker 3: how do they function, what is it that's causing what
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Speaker 3: is the why that's causing them to have these specific issues.
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Speaker 3: And so that's when I started my look into this,
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Speaker 3: realizing that my objective was maybe not niche to think
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Speaker 3: in the box, maybe to learn to think outside of
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Speaker 3: that box so I could provide patients worldwide and at
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Speaker 3: this point of course physicians too. I've trained over thirty
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Speaker 3: eight hundred physicians with the information of how to take
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Speaker 3: that individual cellular biology because we're what one hundred and
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Speaker 3: two hundred trillion cells, and make use of it so
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Speaker 3: that I could do one thing's spectacular for that patient,
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Speaker 3: and that is to create optimal health, not just health,
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Speaker 3: not just good health, but optimal health. And optimal health
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Speaker 3: really is described as close to youthful health as we
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Speaker 3: can get. And by doing that, behind that would come
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Speaker 3: this quantity of life. It's not about quantity, is you know, Michelle.
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Speaker 3: It's specifically about quality of life, and that takes a
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Speaker 3: lot of doing, and that was my objective for coming
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Speaker 3: into this space. I recognize that long early in my
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Speaker 3: career when I saw these doctors get people out of
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Speaker 3: the hospital much more easily. And because of that, my
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Speaker 3: career is going in that space. And I've been very
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Speaker 3: blessed in you know, having hundreds of physicians see me
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Speaker 3: when they're sick. I've done a lot of media exposure,
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Speaker 3: as you know. I worked for Jamie Fox for a
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Speaker 3: year and three recorders on his program, and I've been
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Speaker 3: naturally syndicated currently am and giving the message to people
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Speaker 3: there is a right way and a wrong way to
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Speaker 3: approach the human beings so you have optimal health. Again,
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Speaker 3: it's about quality. Do you want to be health equality
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Speaker 3: or not? And if I can tell you a very
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Speaker 3: interesting story if you choose, I've just tried to talk
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Speaker 3: so you don't have to talk so much because the life.
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Speaker 1: I love this, and I know our viewers are going
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Speaker 1: to love this because you're just so fluid, and you
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Speaker 1: have so much knowledge and experience, and you're so willing
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Speaker 1: to share. This is what I think sets you apart
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Speaker 1: from so many others in the space is that you
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Speaker 1: want so much to give back, and you are so
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Speaker 1: generous with your time and your passion and your enthusiasm
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Speaker 1: for creating a better world through lifespan and health span.
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Speaker 1: So yes, please go on tell us your story.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I will tell you story, and what you said
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Speaker 3: is true. I live my life in a space with
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Speaker 3: the adage in the back of my head, and I
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Speaker 3: wish my mom was still here. She's not. But I
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Speaker 3: always say, treat your patients like you would treat your mother,
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Speaker 3: and I really believe that's a great adage. What can
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Speaker 3: I do? And I do everything possible. In addition to
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Speaker 3: the science portion of it. I treat people as I
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Speaker 3: always say, treat them with respect, with honor. I literally
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Speaker 3: give my cell to a phone number, my cell phone
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Speaker 3: number to every single one of my patients.
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Speaker 1: But to that itself is very unusual. And you know,
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Speaker 1: you're very lucky that you can practice medicine with a
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Speaker 1: concierge approach rather than being structured through those the health
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Speaker 1: insurance and pharmaceutical structure that you know well, primarily the
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Speaker 1: medical institutional structure, which you know, if you're going to
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Speaker 1: collect insurance from your patients, very often you have fifteen minutes,
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Speaker 1: and how can you possibly help someone in a very
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Speaker 1: limited time. I think that's one of the big deficits
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Speaker 1: of our system today. So many, many people have chosen
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Speaker 1: to use you in a way that they get your
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Speaker 1: full attention for a longer period of time, so you
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Speaker 1: get to know them as individuals.
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Speaker 3: And I do. And for the past well it's more
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Speaker 3: than eighteen and a half years, Michelle, I've been basically
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Speaker 3: a cash practitioner, and I've done that because I don't
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Speaker 3: want to be beholden to the insurance carriers across the country.
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Speaker 3: I want to do what's best for my patient, nothing
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Speaker 3: more and nothing less. But to go back to that
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Speaker 3: story that I started telling you, I was on an
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Speaker 3: airplane once actually going to lecture at one of the
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Speaker 3: major conventions, and I was flying to California, and I
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Speaker 3: was sitting in business class next to a gentleman, very
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Speaker 3: intelligent guy who started one of the the types of
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Speaker 3: things that we're doing now, like the sessions that can
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Speaker 3: record it. So forth. He started, he tells me, with
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Speaker 3: fifty individuals sold the company with fifty thousand. Now this
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Speaker 3: is an accomplished person, for sure. I smile every time
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Speaker 3: I hear people that whatever it is, and it doesn't
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Speaker 3: have to be that grandiose. But the reason for the conversation.
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Speaker 3: We're sitting there and apparently he's looking at a thing
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Speaker 3: about electric cars, which he had invested a lot of
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Speaker 3: money in a specific company. And I said to him,
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Speaker 3: I have a question for you. What. Two of my
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Speaker 3: patients said that driving an electric car they were engineers,
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Speaker 3: would produce a tremendous amount of low energy for us
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Speaker 3: this magnetic field, which is very damaging to the DNA.
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Speaker 3: Do you know anything about it? And he said, Mitch,
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Speaker 3: I don't, but we had you know, Wi Fi on
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Speaker 3: the way and he's typing to this particular company. The
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Speaker 3: point is they never answered, but it didn't matter for
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Speaker 3: this conversation because we're in the conversation about an hour later.
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Speaker 3: He looks at the You know what, Mitch, I'm a
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Speaker 3: very good cardiologist, and the cardiologists told me that if
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Speaker 3: I enjoy my life and really having a good time,
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Speaker 3: so what you know if you lose three or four
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Speaker 3: As it referred to the fact that you know this
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Speaker 3: could be causing a low electronic magnetic field and may
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Speaker 3: cause a problem. So I said, Okay, I see where
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Speaker 3: you're coming from, Mike, but let me frame this differently,
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Speaker 3: and the folks watching can think about this too, because
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Speaker 3: I think this is the key to how we approach
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Speaker 3: a patient. I said to them, listen, God comes on
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Speaker 3: this plane right now, he has comes walking right up
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Speaker 3: to you, and he says, you know what, I'm going
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Speaker 3: to give you two choices, only two choices. The first
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Speaker 3: choice is I'll give you ten years of life from
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Speaker 3: here out. Ten years will be perfect, like you're a teenager.
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Speaker 3: You won't be sick at all. You'll have energy, you'll
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Speaker 3: be able to do anything you want, play sports, whatever.
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Speaker 3: But in the end of the tenth year, I'm going
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Speaker 3: to quietly sweep you away in your sleep. The second
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Speaker 3: choice is I'll give you fifty years. But during that
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Speaker 3: fifty years there's going to be some real problems. You
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Speaker 3: may need a feeding tube, You're going to be in
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Speaker 3: a wheelchair, you may need help even going to the bathroom, feeding, etc.
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Speaker 3: Which do you choose? And he goes, Mitch, of course
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Speaker 3: I would take the ten. And as he started to
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Speaker 3: say the ten, he said, now I understand, I said exactly.
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Speaker 3: Quality is always more important than quantity, and quantity does
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Speaker 3: follow quality. So the way of producing a decent or
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Speaker 3: healthy patient show we should say they getting there is
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Speaker 3: somehow get them to this optimal situation, optimal health, optimal biochemistry,
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Speaker 3: and optimal function. That makes sense, right.
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Speaker 1: You know, Mitchy, I always say knowledge is power, and information.
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Speaker 2: Of course is part of knowledge.
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Speaker 1: So this is why a person like you in practicing
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Speaker 1: in the world today is so critical to the individuals
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Speaker 1: who have that same commitment and say, you know, I'd
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Speaker 1: rather live ten years of quality.
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Speaker 2: Than fifty years of compromise.
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Speaker 1: Health because of that, and by the way, because those
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Speaker 1: ten years can now be extended to a lot longer
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Speaker 1: number of years once you get to that quality outcome,
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Speaker 1: so you know, it builds, it.
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Speaker 2: Builds on itself.
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Speaker 1: So let's get to some specifics, okay, of how to
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Speaker 1: that level of quality. What do you think are the
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Speaker 1: foundational aspects of lifespan healthpan? What are the key ingredients
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Speaker 1: that you have to cover when you're trying to get
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Speaker 1: people from.
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Speaker 3: A to B. That's a great question. I think the
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Speaker 3: very first thing that you have to do is to
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Speaker 3: be able to determine what we're working with. It would
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Speaker 3: be no different than a software engineer knowing exactly what
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Speaker 3: are the pieces of the puzzle. It would be no
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Speaker 3: different for a car mechanic to do one hundred and
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Speaker 3: fifty five point check on the car. And they're only
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Speaker 3: a couple of particularly thousands of examples I can give.
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Speaker 3: So the very first thing I want to know, in
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Speaker 3: addition of course always to what healthcare practitioners are taught
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Speaker 3: history of that individual and physical exam, I need to
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Speaker 3: know what's happening under the covers, what's happening in that
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Speaker 3: body at a cellular level that you can't always tell
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Speaker 3: by looking at the exterior. I can't look at the
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Speaker 3: exterior of a car, for example, know if the brake
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Speaker 3: fluids low, where the oil is low, So that has
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Speaker 3: to be tested. So I first look at someone and say,
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Speaker 3: the typical evaluations done in most PCPs practices, most of
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Speaker 3: the family doctors in general interness is a very small
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Speaker 3: biochemistry look, maybe a complete blood coount, maybe what they
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Speaker 3: call a complete metabolic process type of count as well.
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Speaker 3: But I do a deep dive. I'll do probably one
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Speaker 3: hundred and twenty or more different parameters so that I
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Speaker 3: can get the best understanding. No different if you took
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Speaker 3: your car in sixty years ago, they looked underhood, they said,
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Speaker 3: you know what, Mitch, your carburetors Okay, you have plenty
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Speaker 3: of oil done. Chain will change the air filter. That's
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Speaker 3: not the way it is anymore. You take a new
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Speaker 3: car now and they hook it up to a computer
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Speaker 3: and they sort of look as many parameters as a
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Speaker 3: computer can, and it's a much much inwoard depth. Look,
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Speaker 3: why aren't we doing that in a system that has
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Speaker 3: somewhere around eight hundred and sixty eight trillion chemical reactions
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Speaker 3: per second. That's us and yeah, that sounds like an
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Speaker 3: enormous number, but someone once said and looked into it,
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Speaker 3: that that's about what we do considering how many cells
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Speaker 3: we are and what's happening every second and millions of
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Speaker 3: a second the body. Now we can't do every chemical reaction,
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Speaker 3: we can't look at everyone. But are we doing a
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Speaker 3: deep enough comprehensive evaluation so that we get a good idea?
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Speaker 3: Now I liken this to patients that don't understand it
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Speaker 3: to like, for example, an EKG and EKG was founded
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Speaker 3: around the turn of the nineteenth century nineteen hundreds, and
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Speaker 3: they basically saw the EKG to be able to give
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Speaker 3: a three hundred and sixty degree view, they would need
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Speaker 3: twelve leads. And that's what our EKG is today. It
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Speaker 3: looks all around the heart to give an idea of
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Speaker 3: the information it provides, you know, as far as enlargement
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Speaker 3: and rhythm and so forth. So we need to do
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Speaker 3: the same thing when it comes to affecting longevity. And
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Speaker 3: I'll get to why in the moment. So if we
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Speaker 3: do a deep enough dive, then we're going to find
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Speaker 3: the things that are potential issues that could affect longevity, health,
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Speaker 3: et cetera. And there are no circumstances that lead to
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Speaker 3: just one problem. In other words, a set of maybe
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Speaker 3: five abnormalities may lead to cancer one patient, nothing in another,
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Speaker 3: and perhaps an autoimmune disease in another. So we're looking to
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Speaker 3: see where are the potential cellular difficulties and by doing that,
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Speaker 3: we can replete the areas of difficulty simply easily, most
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Speaker 3: of the time using natural type of medicine, and occasionally
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Speaker 3: using medicine as well, but most of the time we
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Speaker 3: can do it naturally, and this will forestall biochemical failures
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Speaker 3: in the future. This will forestore mineral failures regardless who
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Speaker 3: the patient is. If you even take one mineral and
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Speaker 3: you deplete that one mineral, regardless of what it is,
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Speaker 3: you can name anyone you want. Eventually you'll have it.
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Speaker 3: You'll have a problem or what we call a disease.
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Speaker 3: So are we going to wait till that happens? Are
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Speaker 3: we going to really insert true prevention and make a
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Speaker 3: difference and keep that person alive? So my very first
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Speaker 3: step before I do anything else is to evaluate what
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Speaker 3: that person's biochemistry.
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Speaker 1: That's first, and that's how many blood tests? Does that take?
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Speaker 2: Two?
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Speaker 1: And I mean, obviously this is today's technology, there's so
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Speaker 1: many ways you can look at the biochemistry. So if
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Speaker 1: someone walks in your door a new patient and you're
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Speaker 1: going to to do what you just described, what's next
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Speaker 1: in terms of the lab work.
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Speaker 3: Well, that would be the lab work, and it would
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Speaker 3: usually in my office we do it in eleven tubes.
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Speaker 3: If they go to the outside lab, the outside lab phlebotomists. Unfortunately,
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Speaker 3: for each test they take another tube. They don't realize
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Speaker 3: you could do five tests that a one tube, but
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Speaker 3: usually it's twenty three or twenty four tubes on the outside.
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Speaker 3: We do it on the inside for about eleven tubes.
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Speaker 3: You're talking a week and a half, ten days, and
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Speaker 3: then we have a pretty good look at who you
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Speaker 3: are from a biochemical perspective. And then what I do
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Speaker 3: is I usually add on a physiologic test like, for example,
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Speaker 3: the evaluation of the autonomic nervous system or the evaluation
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Speaker 3: of the brain, depending on what that person told me
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Speaker 3: in the history, what I find in the physical what
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Speaker 3: issues they would like me to address, and I'll usually
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Speaker 3: add those together. I never treat on the first visit.
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Speaker 3: I basically wait till I have everything in front of me,
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Speaker 3: and then when I bring the patient back, I can
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Speaker 3: talk quite intelligently about them, and it's pretty much, I
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Speaker 3: would say, more than ninety nine percent of the time
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Speaker 3: outside of what they've heard before, because they have not
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Speaker 3: been through enough comprehensive value it. They haven't been through
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Speaker 3: that one hundred and fifty five car computer check before.
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Speaker 3: That's how I start.
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Speaker 1: What would you say is the most important blood test?
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Speaker 1: If you were going to do only one and you
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Speaker 1: couldn't have the benefit of today's technology with all the
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Speaker 1: different measurements, what would be that one test that you
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Speaker 1: would absolutely require.
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Speaker 3: That's a great question. I used to think about this
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Speaker 3: a long time ago when I used to teach physicians
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Speaker 3: early in my career. I used to say, if you
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Speaker 3: only had one test, it would be the CB see
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Speaker 3: the complete blood count and your analysis. You can gain
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Speaker 3: your most information from those two tests then any other.
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Speaker 3: But in today's day and age, there should be no
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Speaker 3: reason why you can't do an extremely in depth dive
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Speaker 3: because missing either one thing could literally change the outcome
22:24
Speaker 3: of that person's aging in future.
22:27
Speaker 1: Right. And you know the other thing too, is that
22:30
Speaker 1: all ageing begins in the cells, and so you know
22:33
Speaker 1: the CBC is a good like it's like a primer.
22:37
Speaker 2: But if you really.
22:38
Speaker 1: Want to look at the health of the mitochondria and
22:42
Speaker 1: the cellular elements of the body, the CBC is certainly
22:47
Speaker 1: not going to give you all the information you need.
22:50
Speaker 1: So well, you know that brings me to something that
22:54
Speaker 1: I want to be sure we cover today. And because
22:56
Speaker 1: of our wonderful friend Roberto, I've been looking into his
23:01
Speaker 1: what you know, I met him at A four M
23:04
Speaker 1: and so I did all his testing, the WOBBY and
23:09
Speaker 1: the A, A, N S and all. So let's talk
23:12
Speaker 1: for a moment, because you are the chief medical advisor,
23:15
Speaker 1: what what does what do you think those tests and
23:20
Speaker 1: his technology as hugh Light will do for your patients?
23:25
Speaker 2: And when do you not use it, not need to
23:29
Speaker 2: use it? And when do you think it's absolutely essential?
23:33
Speaker 3: Okay that let me separate two things as the chief
23:37
Speaker 3: medical officer of hugh Light us A. That's really a
23:42
Speaker 3: composite of for and we can get into talking about
23:45
Speaker 3: this in a moment. For instrumentation that to me is
23:49
Speaker 3: probably the most technological advanced instrumentation in the world. Alongside
23:56
Speaker 3: of that, Roberto works in a space providing a couple
24:01
Speaker 3: of diagnostic instruments which are well proven and tried and true,
24:07
Speaker 3: which are the ANS machine that you're alluding to, and
24:10
Speaker 3: the wavvy. So you asked a great question, when would
24:14
Speaker 3: I do that? So to understand when you would look
24:17
Speaker 3: at the autonomic nervous system for the viewers, you would
24:21
Speaker 3: have to say, what is it and why is it
24:23
Speaker 3: so important? So the autonomic nervous system pretty much does
24:28
Speaker 3: everything for you that you do subconsciously, so sweating, heartbeat, respiration,
24:33
Speaker 3: blood flow through the heart, pancreatic work, a digestion of course, liver,
24:39
Speaker 3: all those things. And the autonomic nervous system is separate
24:44
Speaker 3: into two components, the one that everyone knows it's called
24:47
Speaker 3: the sympathetic or better known as the fight or flight right,
24:52
Speaker 3: and then the opposite and it's called the parasympathetic, which
24:55
Speaker 3: is the rest and digest now fight or flight. Like this,
25:00
Speaker 3: the ANS is a component of every single animal in
25:04
Speaker 3: the world. We have it because it's meant to be
25:08
Speaker 3: a safeguard to get us to get away from an enemy,
25:11
Speaker 3: to get rid of away from a fire, whatever it
25:13
Speaker 3: is to be able for us to our body to
25:16
Speaker 3: become physiologically or functionally correct to move it. So the
25:21
Speaker 3: sympathetic nervous system is one in the animal kingdom. It's
25:25
Speaker 3: meant to be used for a brief time and then
25:28
Speaker 3: the power sympathetic takes over. So the human unfortunately, we
25:34
Speaker 3: have taken this system and we've broken it. And every
25:39
Speaker 3: single thing in the human body, unconsciously done always is
25:42
Speaker 3: initiated by the sympathetic, and then the power sympathic sympathetic
25:47
Speaker 3: says it's okay, there's a lion. No, there's not anymore.
25:51
Speaker 3: That's how this particular combination of sympathetic power sympathetic works. Now,
25:56
Speaker 3: how important is that would be to tell you that
25:59
Speaker 3: not nine out of ten diseases that kill humankind either
26:05
Speaker 3: initiate in the autonomic nervous system or they complete in
26:11
Speaker 3: the autonomic nervous system because they were which one doesn't,
26:14
Speaker 3: and that's trauma. So obviously, if there's a car accident,
26:18
Speaker 3: it's over so quickly there's no adjustment in the autonomic
26:21
Speaker 3: nervous system. But prior to that, pretty much every disease
26:26
Speaker 3: we'll have a dysfunction of that. So when we say
26:29
Speaker 3: how important that is, I'm going to say it becomes
26:32
Speaker 3: exquisitely important if you're pretty much over thirty five or forty.
26:36
Speaker 3: You should definitely get the test on once a year.
26:39
Speaker 3: Typically it's these are congloberative tests that started in the
26:43
Speaker 3: nineteen sixties. Harvard and MIT's algorithms are placed within these things,
26:48
Speaker 3: and it gives an amazing overview to where the patients at.
26:54
Speaker 3: Do they have heart disease? Is their vascular system the
26:58
Speaker 3: sixty four thousand miles has it been affected? Do they
27:02
Speaker 3: have way too much sympathetic discharge? Is it affecting the heart?
27:07
Speaker 3: Are they more likely to have a heart attack? Are
27:08
Speaker 3: they more likely to have a neuropathy? Are they more
27:12
Speaker 3: likely to have a dysrhythm of the heart. You get
27:16
Speaker 3: that's a lot of information when you couple that with
27:20
Speaker 3: the blood tests. So it is for me an absolute
27:26
Speaker 3: begin go. So when I see someone, let's say they're
27:29
Speaker 3: not a teenager there for acne or someone who's there
27:32
Speaker 3: because most of my patients have been referred to me
27:35
Speaker 3: by other doctors and people throughout the United States that
27:38
Speaker 3: have issues that are not being resolved by the conventional community,
27:43
Speaker 3: then what I do is always the blood work, and
27:47
Speaker 3: with the autonomic nervous system evaluation, I am ahead of
27:51
Speaker 3: the game so much by that point it gives me
27:54
Speaker 3: an idea. Now add to that to finish the question,
27:57
Speaker 3: you and ask if for example, someone has as you know,
28:01
Speaker 3: maybe some early cognitive decline or you know, I just
28:05
Speaker 3: can't remember those names Mitch like I used to, or
28:09
Speaker 3: I've had a lot of closed head trauma comes up
28:11
Speaker 3: in the history. Then the wabbie, similar to the autonomics system,
28:17
Speaker 3: basically gives me a functional display of what's going on
28:20
Speaker 3: from the neck up. Let's say the ans is from
28:23
Speaker 3: the neck down, so to speak. The wabbie gives me
28:25
Speaker 3: from the neck up. So it becomes also a very
28:30
Speaker 3: important tool in my armamentarian to be able to determine
28:34
Speaker 3: and diagnose folks of exactly what's going on, because the
28:37
Speaker 3: more we know, the more we get to that bottom
28:40
Speaker 3: question why. And there's a perfect example to this. I
28:46
Speaker 3: saw a young lady who wants to go to law
28:49
Speaker 3: school a couple of days ago. She's homebound. She's been
28:53
Speaker 3: homebound for a year and a half. She's so anxious,
28:55
Speaker 3: her guts bad, blah blah blah, and she's having a
28:57
Speaker 3: hard time. So someone rightfully so looked into the gut
29:02
Speaker 3: and did all the proper tests, another integrative person. But
29:06
Speaker 3: she wasn't getting better. She was taking things, and after listening,
29:09
Speaker 3: I said, I have to tell you. I think this
29:12
Speaker 3: is the case where whether it's the cart before the
29:14
Speaker 3: horse or horse before the car, you're not have not
29:18
Speaker 3: looked in the right air. I said, what do you mean.
29:19
Speaker 3: I said, well, this is sympathetic, well overcharged, this is
29:24
Speaker 3: sympathetic dominance, and we need to determine that. If we do,
29:29
Speaker 3: I'll know exactly what to do. And she said what
29:32
Speaker 3: do you mean. I said, well, you're in I think
29:34
Speaker 3: a chronic state of fight or flight. She says, you
29:36
Speaker 3: know what, my psychologist told me that too, And I
29:40
Speaker 3: said yes, And I said, I'll tell you something else.
29:43
Speaker 3: When you fall asleep, I'm going to tell you you
29:47
Speaker 3: have no problems with your stomach. I'm also going to
29:50
Speaker 3: tell you that when you're engaged in something watching a
29:53
Speaker 3: television program which you're really immersed in, or doing something
29:56
Speaker 3: you're really immersed in, you probably don't have it then either.
30:00
Speaker 3: She thinks, looks around, because you know what, doctor Mitch,
30:03
Speaker 3: you're right, I said, yes, because you haven't engaged that
30:08
Speaker 3: fight or flight as much. And by the way, engaging
30:11
Speaker 3: the fight or flight causes every it begins as something
30:15
Speaker 3: that you need. It progresses to a massive amount of
30:19
Speaker 3: adrenal hormone cortisol. Eventually cortisol failure. It addresses and goes
30:24
Speaker 3: further to cause severe inflammation. And for everyone watching, I
30:28
Speaker 3: think they should know that inflammation is the nightus for
30:31
Speaker 3: every disease from heart to cancer. So it is an
30:34
Speaker 3: important valuation that we need to do.
30:37
Speaker 2: It's inflammation and oxidative stress. They are like the two
30:40
Speaker 2: or the two twins, right, that.
30:42
Speaker 1: Are the main culprits for eating. So if you can,
30:48
Speaker 1: that's why antioxidants are so important all in our regimen
30:53
Speaker 1: because we want to reduce the inflammation and oxidative stress.
30:57
Speaker 2: Which is hey, listen, I vote.
31:00
Speaker 1: I broke my ankles on a bike accident and they
31:04
Speaker 1: told me the inflammation was a good thing in the beginning.
31:07
Speaker 1: It's when it linkers and you don't resolve it, but
31:11
Speaker 1: you do need inflammation. It's sort of like saying about cholesterol.
31:17
Speaker 1: You know, people say, oh, cholesterol is bad, but actually
31:20
Speaker 1: cholesterol can be It is very good and the brain
31:23
Speaker 1: needs the cholesterol.
31:24
Speaker 2: It's just a question of what kind of cholesterol.
31:27
Speaker 1: So I love what you're saying, and it's so helpful.
31:30
Speaker 1: And I know there's a couple more elements here. One
31:33
Speaker 1: is molecular hydrogen and the other is the red light,
31:39
Speaker 1: which the hue light has the big bed, which the cadillac,
31:44
Speaker 1: let's say, of red light therapy. So why don't you
31:47
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about how important those two elements are.
31:52
Speaker 1: Protocols are for are the same kind of outcome that
31:55
Speaker 1: we're aiming for, which is optimum health and.
31:59
Speaker 3: Long chev of course, and you hit the nail, I mean, Michelle,
32:04
Speaker 3: right on the head. We have way too much oxidation
32:08
Speaker 3: because of stress. What we eat, way too much inflammation.
32:11
Speaker 3: And that's where the hue light equipment, which is a
32:16
Speaker 3: Korean born equipment that comes over, is magnificent in this fight.
32:22
Speaker 3: So let's start with molecular hydrogen. What molecular hydrogen is
32:27
Speaker 3: anti inflammatory, antioxidative, and it is modulating of apoptosis for
32:35
Speaker 3: those that don't know what that means. Basically, at some
32:38
Speaker 3: point cells need to die to let the new cells
32:41
Speaker 3: come in. Molecular hydrogen or hydrogen's the smallest molecule we have,
32:46
Speaker 3: as you know, in the universe. It is the molecule
32:49
Speaker 3: of creation. If you look at creation water, which covers
32:53
Speaker 3: pretty much three quarters of the Earth can't live more
32:56
Speaker 3: than a week without it is H two oh toolecules
33:00
Speaker 3: of hydrogen, and of course one of oxygen. Molecular hydrogen
33:05
Speaker 3: in its antioxidative state is what we call a selective
33:10
Speaker 3: selective antioxidant. It actually stops two of the very dangerous
33:16
Speaker 3: reactive oxygen species. One is called the hydroxyl radical, which
33:21
Speaker 3: is a fairly dangerous one, and the other one is
33:25
Speaker 3: the one that causes DNA damage, and it's known as
33:28
Speaker 3: the oh no type of oxidat or it's no with
33:34
Speaker 3: a line on top, or what we call caryoxy nitrate
33:38
Speaker 3: free radical. It is selective for stopping that and that's
33:41
Speaker 3: the one that will eventually cause DNA to be damaged
33:45
Speaker 3: and all the things that come along with that issue,
33:48
Speaker 3: whether it's cancer propagation or invasion, or metastasis or its
33:53
Speaker 3: or its heart disease, et cetera. Well, the breathing of
33:58
Speaker 3: molecular hydrogen is and allows this to go in. It
34:04
Speaker 3: initiates what we call the NRF two system, which is
34:10
Speaker 3: anti inflammatory and actually begins to increase all the antioxidants
34:16
Speaker 3: and helps anti inflammation and also sets off this capability
34:21
Speaker 3: of cells that are old time to die, and molecular
34:24
Speaker 3: hydrogen when it's inhaled, its very easy to use. Michelle.
34:28
Speaker 3: If you think people some people watching me, they say, well,
34:31
Speaker 3: you know what I drink? I drink hydrogen, molecular hydrogen. Well,
34:38
Speaker 3: just so that I don't be labor it unless you
34:40
Speaker 3: have other questions to it. A one hour use of
34:45
Speaker 3: molecular hydrogen at about a rate of two thousand ccs
34:51
Speaker 3: per minute, which actually translates to fourteen hundred and sixty
34:56
Speaker 3: six c seeds of hydrogen because you have one molecule
34:59
Speaker 3: oxygen to a hydrogen in one hour. For someone to
35:03
Speaker 3: be able to drink enough liquid hydrogen to equal that,
35:09
Speaker 3: it's about it's about we'd say two hundred and forty
35:13
Speaker 3: mL glass, which is about twelve pounce glass. They would
35:15
Speaker 3: have to do twenty thirty six thousand glasses. That's insane.
35:22
Speaker 3: It just can't happen.
35:23
Speaker 1: It's like throwing a pebble into the ocean. It's nothing
35:27
Speaker 1: but at least doing something, but it isn't going to
35:30
Speaker 1: have the outcome. And how do you combine the Sorry
35:34
Speaker 1: my voice is so bad, but it's fine. It's the
35:38
Speaker 1: molecular hydrogen with hyperbaric oxygen do they go hand in
35:44
Speaker 1: hand in hand in any treatments that you would be
35:48
Speaker 1: looking to use.
35:51
Speaker 3: Absolutely, what I do in my office, I have all
35:55
Speaker 3: my patients basically go through all four of these treatments.
36:00
Speaker 3: We have things called medical gases pretty much. The molecular
36:05
Speaker 3: hydrates is one. Every note one knows what oxygen is,
36:08
Speaker 3: so hyper barracks increases the amount of oxygen within the
36:12
Speaker 3: system because you know, it causes pressure pushing it into
36:16
Speaker 3: the system. That's where hyper barracks come in. We know
36:20
Speaker 3: also ozone is another molecular gas that's used by lots
36:24
Speaker 3: of integrative practitioners. It's extremely helpful as well. So what
36:28
Speaker 3: I do is I put patients when they first come
36:30
Speaker 3: in on a sonic plate. It's not a shaking plate.
36:34
Speaker 3: It actually is a sonic or sound wave, and it
36:37
Speaker 3: goes through different frequencies at different intensities. And the one
36:41
Speaker 3: thing that I find with that specifically is it takes
36:44
Speaker 3: what so many of us have, and that's these glued
36:48
Speaker 3: together red blood cells, either this aggregation or ReLU formation
36:52
Speaker 3: you could see under a dark field microstapy and sort
36:55
Speaker 3: of breaks it up so the cells are free. Now,
36:58
Speaker 3: why would you want cells free? Makes ends because red
37:01
Speaker 3: blood cells have an elliptical shape. They're made that way,
37:05
Speaker 3: so they have the maximum oxygen capacity carrying capacity. So
37:10
Speaker 3: that's for then I put them in this unbelievable near infrared.
37:17
Speaker 3: Infrared's broken into three spectrums, near, mid, and far. And
37:21
Speaker 3: we can always discuss if we have time, but the
37:23
Speaker 3: near infrared system has thirty eight thousand, eight hundred LEDs,
37:29
Speaker 3: so based on distance and what we call a luminescence,
37:34
Speaker 3: and this has both in the proper amount. It equals
37:39
Speaker 3: the amount of near infrared that you could receive on
37:43
Speaker 3: a perfect day in the sun at the proper time,
37:46
Speaker 3: which the proper time for near infrared happens to be
37:49
Speaker 3: in the morning hours when the first sun first comes
37:52
Speaker 3: up and the latter part of the day when the
37:54
Speaker 3: sun's going down, not the ultraviolet, but the near infrared.
37:58
Speaker 3: And not only does that initiate something that you alluded to,
38:02
Speaker 3: which is perfect, which is mitochondrial enhancement. It is this
38:07
Speaker 3: light that actually gets the mitochondria to work better because
38:12
Speaker 3: in the mitochondria there is there are what they call chromophores.
38:17
Speaker 3: They literally are parts of the mitochondria that look for
38:20
Speaker 3: this light to make the mitochondria work and make the
38:24
Speaker 3: mitochondria produce melotone into predicate to save itself and keep
38:28
Speaker 3: itself healthy. So this is a perfect adjunct to the
38:33
Speaker 3: system that we're using. And so using all these particular systems,
38:38
Speaker 3: of course with the molecuohydrogen, they're all doing a little
38:43
Speaker 3: bit similar but like a then diagram, they have the
38:46
Speaker 3: overlapping places, but then they have their individual specific areas
38:51
Speaker 3: that they're doing the job. So you're really with no, no,
38:57
Speaker 3: nothing that's intravenous at that point, that's aggressive, but something
39:01
Speaker 3: that your body requires. You require oxygen, you require sunlight,
39:05
Speaker 3: and most people were sunlight deficient, pretty much the entire population.
39:09
Speaker 3: We're inside, we're working, we're doing and do we really
39:13
Speaker 3: get out in time and get our whole body exposed?
39:16
Speaker 3: Of course not, but twenty minutes in this unit of
39:20
Speaker 3: the near of red gives you everything that you need
39:23
Speaker 3: for one day to stimulate that mitochondria. And there are
39:26
Speaker 3: hundreds of other reasons, including the eye and having macular
39:32
Speaker 3: degeneration and mouth lesions. I mean, I can go on
39:35
Speaker 3: and on about this near infrared. So the combination is
39:39
Speaker 3: about it's close that we can get to the concept
39:42
Speaker 3: of a med bed which hopefully one day we'll really have.
39:46
Speaker 3: But this is about the ghost that we can get
39:48
Speaker 3: using this technology that Hugh Light USA has brought to
39:52
Speaker 3: this country. It's that spectacular, and I don't have a
39:57
Speaker 3: patient that I don't have that common nation bolted on
40:01
Speaker 3: to all the other things that you and I have
40:02
Speaker 3: discussed from nutrition and whatever it is, iv et cetera.
40:07
Speaker 3: This is absolutely part of their program because there's no
40:10
Speaker 3: way of getting healthy unless you do what I always say,
40:14
Speaker 3: diagnose someone three hundred and sixty degrees, which is what
40:17
Speaker 3: we teach, and treat them three hundred and sixty degrees.
40:23
Speaker 3: So that combination is the biggest winner for optimal health.
40:26
Speaker 1: When I think about everything you've just said and how
40:30
Speaker 1: it could revolutionize your health. But yet it's impractical for
40:36
Speaker 1: most people who will not have either the money or
40:40
Speaker 1: the space to have all this equipment, so they How
40:44
Speaker 1: does someone handle the practicality of all of these protocols
40:51
Speaker 1: influencing their health when they can't access them unless they're
40:55
Speaker 1: in your office or they have the financial wherewithal to
40:59
Speaker 1: put it in their in their residence.
41:02
Speaker 3: Good question. Let me take the I guess the former
41:07
Speaker 3: question before the latter. There are other offices other than
41:11
Speaker 3: mine across the United States, and it's growing amount of
41:14
Speaker 3: practitioners that have these types of instrumentations that are be
41:18
Speaker 3: putting in. They're not cheap, and they're not cheap, but
41:23
Speaker 3: the outcome is that great that it makes it important.
41:26
Speaker 3: So there are if there's if it's California's California, in Florida,
41:30
Speaker 3: there's some in in wherever, Connecticut, wherever someone lives, usually
41:35
Speaker 3: you can find it. You're right to unless you have
41:37
Speaker 3: a lot of money, it would be financial probably prohibitory
41:40
Speaker 3: to put it into your home. But you have brought
41:44
Speaker 3: up another point, which is a point not just for
41:48
Speaker 3: for just equipment, it's a point for integrative health to
41:52
Speaker 3: begin with, especially since so many of the doctors that
41:55
Speaker 3: are in the space are cash practitioners like myself, And
42:01
Speaker 3: it sometimes becomes difficult for patients to avail themselves of
42:05
Speaker 3: the services, and there is really no good insurance potential
42:08
Speaker 3: yet they talk about it all the time, but it's
42:11
Speaker 3: not there. But there are several things that can be done.
42:15
Speaker 3: And I tell folks too, when patients come to me
42:18
Speaker 3: and they have difficulty, but they want to do the services,
42:23
Speaker 3: they recognize how important it is well, first, there's a
42:27
Speaker 3: concept that I need to tell you of what how
42:29
Speaker 3: I think one I've learned a long time ago. I
42:32
Speaker 3: never looked in the pockets of patients. I had three
42:35
Speaker 3: offices in upper blue collar workers areas, and if they
42:44
Speaker 3: could not afford it, originally, they would find that family
42:47
Speaker 3: members would help, because the recognition of good health was
42:52
Speaker 3: much more important than the del Monto Delmani steak or
42:55
Speaker 3: whatever else they would would go. I've also watched I
42:58
Speaker 3: watched them. My own practice is which again, I never
43:02
Speaker 3: look in someone's pocket. Again, I've watched people come in
43:06
Speaker 3: tell me they don't have enough money for a twenty
43:08
Speaker 3: dollars item, and they'll drive off and brag about their
43:11
Speaker 3: brand new Mercedes five something. So I don't look in
43:15
Speaker 3: the pocket. I don't think. I think the first thing
43:18
Speaker 3: that the population needs to recognize is there's nothing more
43:20
Speaker 3: important than your health. And if you want to be
43:24
Speaker 3: in the band aid population, then you don't need me
43:26
Speaker 3: or any type like me. You can go to a
43:29
Speaker 3: PCP and that you probably can get on your insurance.
43:32
Speaker 3: These medicine and so forth. Medicines are a band aid.
43:34
Speaker 3: The underlying cause is eventually going to get worse in
43:37
Speaker 3: need more and more I teach, and I've had on
43:40
Speaker 3: my programs many of these kind of practitioners. The other
43:43
Speaker 3: thing is, don't be afraid as an individual to be
43:46
Speaker 3: able to say to a doctor, look, I need a
43:49
Speaker 3: little bit of help. Most people, I think, at least
43:52
Speaker 3: I do I should. I can only talk for myself, Michelle.
43:55
Speaker 3: You know, find a way of helping them so they
43:59
Speaker 3: can afford it. I'll do whatever I can to help them,
44:04
Speaker 3: one way or another. And there are people out there,
44:08
Speaker 3: and there's several of my practice who have helped many
44:12
Speaker 3: patients by even paying for their whole treatment protocols. So
44:17
Speaker 3: I would not say I'm not going. I wouldn't. I
44:18
Speaker 3: wouldn't want a person to say I'm not going to
44:20
Speaker 3: go to Michigan like that, knowing that I don't know
44:23
Speaker 3: if I can afford it. But once they got there,
44:26
Speaker 3: if they're they're honest, I go through everything possible to
44:30
Speaker 3: always help that patient because they're human being, they need
44:33
Speaker 3: to be helped, and so we look for answers for it.
44:37
Speaker 3: But you're right, it's not as easy. But if someone
44:42
Speaker 3: will prioritize their health and are willing to wipe work
44:46
Speaker 3: and fight for good health, then you should have a
44:48
Speaker 3: doctor on the other side or a practitioner that's willing
44:51
Speaker 3: to fight with you for your good health simultaneously.
44:55
Speaker 1: That's very refreshing and I'm sure as music to the
44:59
Speaker 1: ears of a lot of the people that will be
45:01
Speaker 1: watching this podcast today. So thank you so much for
45:05
Speaker 1: sharing your philosophy with us, and hopefully people if they
45:10
Speaker 1: can't find you in the Boca or you know, head
45:14
Speaker 1: to Florida, they can maybe at least consult with you
45:18
Speaker 1: as the first step on a telemedicine basis. So we'll
45:21
Speaker 1: talk about that and how to reach you in a
45:23
Speaker 1: little bit. But I did want to ask you a
45:25
Speaker 1: couple other questions. I keep getting inquiries about thyroid. I
45:30
Speaker 1: think thyroid is probably one of the thyroid or hypothyroid
45:34
Speaker 1: is and probably the hashimotos.
45:37
Speaker 2: You know, the low thyroid is probably.
45:39
Speaker 1: One of the greatest epidemics of our time. I think
45:43
Speaker 1: I know the reasons why. I'm sure you can tell us,
45:48
Speaker 1: but I would love to hear your thoughts about how
45:51
Speaker 1: to improve thyroid naturally without having to take pharmaceutical drugs.
45:58
Speaker 1: Is there anything you can first share with us about
46:01
Speaker 1: the reasons that thyroid is such an epidemic, and two,
46:06
Speaker 1: what what can we do about it?
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Speaker 4: All?
46:08
Speaker 3: Right, let's start with the reasons that the thyroid is
46:11
Speaker 3: of much difficult problem. The reasons it's a problem for
46:14
Speaker 3: many One is simply the toxins that we breathe in
46:20
Speaker 3: every day. Number one. Number two, there is so much radiation.
46:26
Speaker 3: You know, every time someone goes to the hospital for
46:28
Speaker 3: anything because of the fear of missing a diagnosis, and
46:33
Speaker 3: you know, retribution by some a personal injury attorney CT
46:38
Speaker 3: scan will be done. That's radiation. Then you have the
46:42
Speaker 3: medications that are irritating to the thyroid as well. We're
46:47
Speaker 3: not we don't have enough iodine in our in our bodies,
46:51
Speaker 3: which we'll talk about in the moment. It's important for
46:54
Speaker 3: the gross functioning of the thyroid as well. And we
46:58
Speaker 3: have so many things from for example, food coloring and
47:04
Speaker 3: anxiety and stress and preservatives in the foods and all
47:09
Speaker 3: these things. And then you put on like a woman
47:12
Speaker 3: typically will have two hundred and fifty chemicals in her
47:15
Speaker 3: system before she even walks out of the house in
47:17
Speaker 3: the morning, what she washes her hair, what she puts
47:19
Speaker 3: on the makeup. Men one hundred and one hundred and
47:22
Speaker 3: twenty five easy. I always say, for me, who's pretty
47:26
Speaker 3: much metrosexual Op twelve hundred in my system. But I
47:29
Speaker 3: do try to make sure they're all as natural as possible.
47:34
Speaker 3: But these chemicals do do their dastardly deed, so to speak,
47:39
Speaker 3: and they will irritate that thyroid. Thyroid's a little gland.
47:42
Speaker 3: We have tons of items that are also like in foods,
47:47
Speaker 3: like chlorinated products. The halogens all irritate that fluoride in toothplaces,
47:52
Speaker 3: in water, and the list goes on and on. So
47:55
Speaker 3: we have so many things that were subjective to we're
47:58
Speaker 3: having that problem. Then we have an other problem. We
48:00
Speaker 3: start to find drugs that we think will help people
48:03
Speaker 3: lose weight, like the new ones you're familiar with. And
48:06
Speaker 3: if you read the black Box Warnings, it talks about
48:09
Speaker 3: incidents of increased thyroid cancer. In one of the black
48:12
Speaker 3: Box Warnings, they did a study. Don't quote me where
48:17
Speaker 3: it was, but basically they looked at women somewhere between
48:21
Speaker 3: the ages of forty and seventy that passed away from
48:24
Speaker 3: something else than thyroid, and they did autopsies. You know,
48:29
Speaker 3: they found one hundred percent of the women already had
48:32
Speaker 3: thyroid cancer. Even though they had not developed the olvert symptoms.
48:36
Speaker 3: So something is wrong. You're on the right track, for sure.
48:40
Speaker 3: We have way too many things from you know, plasticizers
48:43
Speaker 3: and things that are going to thyroid To answer the
48:46
Speaker 3: second part of your question, and it's hard to get
48:48
Speaker 3: away from all those things. You said, what can we
48:51
Speaker 3: do to improve the thyroid function? Well, one of them
48:55
Speaker 3: is a general measure that we found, for example, in
48:59
Speaker 3: hashimode thyroiditis, which is an olido immune thyroid that eventually
49:03
Speaker 3: will lead to the bodies destroying the thyroid and becoming
49:07
Speaker 3: severely high both thyroid. That one of the ways we
49:10
Speaker 3: measure is by TPO or thyroid peroxidase, and we actually
49:15
Speaker 3: have found that that red near infrared two three times
49:20
Speaker 3: a week for a couple of months actually reduces it significantly,
49:23
Speaker 3: so infra red. And then for those that say, well
49:26
Speaker 3: I can't afford it, I can't get it, just to
49:28
Speaker 3: go on for what you said, well, out in the sun,
49:31
Speaker 3: get up early in the morning, get out in the
49:32
Speaker 3: sun later in the day when the sun's going down,
49:35
Speaker 3: extend your neck, let that good light go into your throat,
49:40
Speaker 3: and that's that and that's going to help. But the
49:43
Speaker 3: other things that will help are the things that help
49:45
Speaker 3: convert the thyroid into producing at least the beginning, which
49:52
Speaker 3: is T four, not the active form T three is.
49:56
Speaker 3: I'll get to that in a minute. So to get
49:59
Speaker 3: to T four, you have to add iodine, you have
50:02
Speaker 3: to add selenium into into your diet. You know, you
50:07
Speaker 3: need some of the B item. It's just for sure.
50:09
Speaker 3: That will also help to accentuate that zinc is required.
50:17
Speaker 3: And there are formulas, for example that I make that
50:19
Speaker 3: have all these in that help to convert that into
50:22
Speaker 3: T four. Now T four to become active at the
50:26
Speaker 3: organ site has to convert to T three, correct, But
50:30
Speaker 3: to do that you need to be a good methylater,
50:34
Speaker 3: meaning that you have to be able to put H
50:37
Speaker 3: three groups to change it into the active form. So
50:41
Speaker 3: taking an active form or a methylated B complex one
50:45
Speaker 3: or two times a day along with the other things
50:48
Speaker 3: we just said. El tyrasine, by the way, another one
50:50
Speaker 3: that just came to my head, will help you convert
50:54
Speaker 3: this to the active. So that's how you try to
50:57
Speaker 3: prevent and keep that thyroid healthy. Minim exposures to things
51:01
Speaker 3: that we just talked about. Certainly taking a supplement with
51:06
Speaker 3: the things we just talked about, and also taking a
51:09
Speaker 3: supplement of methyl B complex or methylated B complex to
51:13
Speaker 3: help convert it to T three. That's the best options
51:16
Speaker 3: we have.
51:17
Speaker 1: Okay, So what's the best thyroid supplement that you found
51:21
Speaker 1: in your practice.
51:23
Speaker 3: I actually make almost eighty five percent of the supplements
51:29
Speaker 3: that I use. I make them in what I call
51:32
Speaker 3: therapeutic doses. It's direct from the manufacturer. It's not in
51:37
Speaker 3: the stores. And the one we have, we have something
51:41
Speaker 3: something called thyroid Support and has every one of those
51:43
Speaker 3: things that I told you about, minus the the methylate
51:46
Speaker 3: to B which I also have made. So that thyroid
51:50
Speaker 3: Support is fantastic. It has enough iodine NFL piracy, enough soelenium,
51:55
Speaker 3: you know, enough zinc to help that thyroid convert and
51:59
Speaker 3: get that T or excreted the thyroxine out and then
52:03
Speaker 3: to convert it obviously using the methyl B and like
52:06
Speaker 3: I said, if someone does have early stages of hashimotos
52:10
Speaker 3: with elevated anti thyroid globulins and thyroid peroxidase TPO, I
52:15
Speaker 3: also use the near infrared. The combination is extremely successful
52:20
Speaker 3: for allaying this, you know, the death of that thyroid
52:24
Speaker 3: through your own body seeing it as far and which
52:27
Speaker 3: is what an automiue disease is.
52:29
Speaker 1: So this is going to be a left out of
52:31
Speaker 1: left field kind of question. But let's just say someone's
52:35
Speaker 1: gut is unhealthy and they're not absorbing nutrients. And here
52:39
Speaker 1: they are taking your wonderful supplements, but they're not actually
52:43
Speaker 1: absorbing them. So how do you deal with that when
52:47
Speaker 1: someone isn't healthy enough to get the benefit from the
52:52
Speaker 1: methyl B and the thyroid support.
52:54
Speaker 3: As to examples, it is correct that if the gut
52:59
Speaker 3: is not healthy, the absorption will be lower for pretty
53:03
Speaker 3: much any nutrient. So I think the very first thing
53:08
Speaker 3: is to be aware that whatever you take orally on
53:12
Speaker 3: the best day of your life, you're looking at forty
53:14
Speaker 3: percent of it being absorbed. As you add into it
53:17
Speaker 3: birth control, as you add into it, diuretics as you
53:22
Speaker 3: add into it, proton pump inhibitors to stop acid, or
53:26
Speaker 3: H two blockers as you add into it, the age
53:29
Speaker 3: and the aging gut which has very little acid. Especially
53:33
Speaker 3: pretty much most females after the age of fifty don't
53:37
Speaker 3: have men or not far behind in that you're not
53:40
Speaker 3: going to have an absorption rate much more than three
53:42
Speaker 3: to five percent, And that is one of the issues
53:47
Speaker 3: that we have, and being cognizant of that means that
53:51
Speaker 3: we also try to make sure people when we see
53:53
Speaker 3: them that we do address that. So there are very
53:58
Speaker 3: good things that help your got to work properly. And
54:02
Speaker 3: so again going back to what I developed, we developed
54:06
Speaker 3: something that literally has four things in it. It has
54:10
Speaker 3: hydrochloric acid, which is absolutely necessary for digestion, which has
54:15
Speaker 3: the same symptoms having low as it is high definitely
54:19
Speaker 3: as missing as we get older and you can't dissolve
54:22
Speaker 3: these foods. It has probiotics, It has digestive enzymes. And fourth,
54:28
Speaker 3: it also has muscle things that are soothers like marshmallow,
54:33
Speaker 3: root and things of that nature, and that definitely helps
54:39
Speaker 3: in the digestive process. And pretty much if that digestive
54:43
Speaker 3: processes off all as you said and correctly, so all
54:49
Speaker 3: nutrients are going to be not taken in properly nor
54:52
Speaker 3: digested properly. And hence the reason I use intravenous routes
54:56
Speaker 3: so much and so often was the grand father they
55:00
Speaker 3: call me of it now and wrote the textbook on it.
55:02
Speaker 3: But if you if you take this thing to help
55:06
Speaker 3: the gut digest properly, then these these things will work.
55:10
Speaker 3: Much better.
55:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, So it just seems to me that anyone that's
55:14
Speaker 1: listening today should to recognize that you might want to
55:17
Speaker 1: start at the ABC's start at a which is to
55:22
Speaker 1: get your gut healthy and make sure that all these
55:25
Speaker 1: other protocols that you're going to be using to be
55:30
Speaker 1: more specific to the condition that you have. Let's just say,
55:34
Speaker 1: in this case, the thyroid uh, that they're going to
55:37
Speaker 1: work better. So why not start at the at the
55:40
Speaker 1: baseline and build the foundations.
55:43
Speaker 2: Like I'm a I'm a.
55:44
Speaker 1: Real estate developer by background, so I always use the
55:48
Speaker 1: metaphor of building a house. So if you don't have
55:51
Speaker 1: a good foundation on your house, guess what, you know,
55:55
Speaker 1: by the time you get to the roof, you're kind
55:57
Speaker 1: of throwing your money away. So I look at it
56:00
Speaker 1: and that same kind of analogy. So, you know, they
56:04
Speaker 1: just signaled me we only have five minutes, and I
56:06
Speaker 1: don't want to run out of them. I knew this
56:08
Speaker 1: would happen to us, but I want to be sure
56:11
Speaker 1: that our viewers have some way to get in touch
56:16
Speaker 1: with you if they would like to. I know, you
56:18
Speaker 1: don't need any patients, and you certainly have doctors and
56:23
Speaker 1: consumer individuals, so I'm sure I don't even know how
56:27
Speaker 1: you sleep, Mitch, when I look at how prolific you are.
56:30
Speaker 1: But let's just say that people are dying to speak
56:33
Speaker 1: with you. How how would they reach you.
56:36
Speaker 3: I'll give you a website address if that helps. It's
56:41
Speaker 3: doctor Mitch at mitch gen dot com. It's that easy.
56:46
Speaker 3: D R M I T C h at mitch Gen
56:52
Speaker 3: m I T c H g h e N dot com.
56:55
Speaker 3: And they can send me a message that way. And
56:58
Speaker 3: I'm really good about that. I feeled almost eighty four
57:02
Speaker 3: calls and text messages a day, and I never go
57:06
Speaker 3: to sleep until I cleared everything. So I will get
57:10
Speaker 3: back to whoever tries to get to me, for sure, and.
57:13
Speaker 2: Then I know.
57:13
Speaker 1: Roberto, our good friend, said that he would offer, he
57:18
Speaker 1: would love to offer actually an incentive to our viewers,
57:22
Speaker 1: and he did say that we would maybe have a
57:26
Speaker 1: fifteen minute consultation.
57:27
Speaker 2: Here, I am adding more burden to your already burden schedule.
57:33
Speaker 1: I think what we decided offline, Mitch, is that we
57:38
Speaker 1: would just allow one person.
57:40
Speaker 2: That way, we don't overwhelm you.
57:42
Speaker 1: So we're just going to make the offer today that
57:45
Speaker 1: the first person that contacts me at eight eight six
57:50
Speaker 1: three nine zero nine zero four wins the lottery and
57:56
Speaker 1: gets to have a fifteen minute, which I imagine will
57:59
Speaker 1: turn into a little longer, but I don't want to.
58:03
Speaker 1: I want to be sure we put limits around this,
58:05
Speaker 1: respecting your time. Is that is that something that will
58:08
Speaker 1: work for.
58:09
Speaker 3: You if we Oh, of course, of course, Michelle, anything
58:12
Speaker 3: you asked me, I'll do. But that's fine.
58:14
Speaker 2: Yes, now you just said all the magic whereds. Thank
58:18
Speaker 2: you so much.
58:19
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, so I want to, as I mentioned in
58:23
Speaker 1: my email to you, I want to be sure that
58:25
Speaker 1: we have around two because there is so much to
58:28
Speaker 1: talk about, and like it's any subject I bring up,
58:32
Speaker 1: I know you can talk for you know, infinitely on
58:36
Speaker 1: and this is what I really value. However, before we go,
58:42
Speaker 1: you had alluded to the GLT one agonist, and I
58:46
Speaker 1: know people on everyone's mind today is how do I
58:51
Speaker 1: lose weight in a healthy way? And are these drugs
58:56
Speaker 1: like those zembic and we'll go VI and manjarra, are
58:59
Speaker 1: the these semiglue tides the answer that seems to be
59:05
Speaker 1: raging throughout the world today. But yet you and I
59:10
Speaker 1: both know that there are always going to be downside.
59:14
Speaker 1: So if you could say one thing, one sentence right
59:18
Speaker 1: now to our viewers about those drugs.
59:23
Speaker 3: What would you say, don't take them? That you need
59:27
Speaker 3: to learn to do this from a functional human physiologic perspective.
59:31
Speaker 3: If you have diabetes, perhaps, but thyroid cancer, gastroparesis, and pancreatitis,
59:39
Speaker 3: potential isn't worth it. That's my bottom line.
59:44
Speaker 1: That's exactly what I was assuming you would say. The
59:47
Speaker 1: other final question I have for you is I have
59:51
Speaker 1: in my house a far infrared sauna, and I'd like
59:54
Speaker 1: to know what is the difference between the near and
59:57
Speaker 1: the far and is there a value of each one
1:00:00
Speaker 1: that's distinct?
1:00:02
Speaker 3: Yes, and I'll do that in thirty seconds. There are
1:00:05
Speaker 3: three spectrums within the near infrared. The far is not
1:00:08
Speaker 3: that it goes deeper. It actually goes much less because
1:00:12
Speaker 3: as you use far infrared, it vibrates the water molecule,
1:00:15
Speaker 3: heats you up nice for a detox, feel good, but
1:00:18
Speaker 3: does not affect the mitochondria at all, like near infrared.
1:00:24
Speaker 1: Do they sell for home units? Do they sell near
1:00:27
Speaker 1: infrared versus the fire?
1:00:30
Speaker 3: Yes, there are home units that can, but you want
1:00:33
Speaker 3: one that does effectually get to the levels that would
1:00:37
Speaker 3: be as close to the sun as possible, and light
1:00:40
Speaker 3: USA has a home unit. Still it's fairly large, but
1:00:45
Speaker 3: it does do the job.
1:00:47
Speaker 2: Okay, very good.
1:00:49
Speaker 1: All right, Well, I think we've covered all we can
1:00:51
Speaker 1: today and I just want to again say thank you
1:00:54
Speaker 1: Mitch for your time. I know how busy you are,
1:00:57
Speaker 1: and you've just been so wonderful with sharing all.
1:01:00
Speaker 2: Of this information.
1:01:02
Speaker 1: So round two will happen in twenty twenty five because
1:01:07
Speaker 1: we're booked to the end of the year. That's a
1:01:09
Speaker 1: good thing for us. But but I will be I
1:01:14
Speaker 1: will have my assistant get in touch with you, or
1:01:16
Speaker 1: I will do that directly to set up something for
1:01:19
Speaker 1: next year.
1:01:20
Speaker 3: I look forward to it. God blessed. Thank you, thanks
1:01:23
Speaker 3: so much for having me on your program.
1:01:25
Speaker 2: You much take care. Bye bye,