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How Chill is UCSB Rush? · Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Dirty Rush, the truth about sorority life, with
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  Speaker 1: your hosts, me, Gia Giudice.
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  Speaker 2: Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Fessler. Hi, everybody.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome back to another episode of Dirty Rush. This is
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  Speaker 3: Trista Sutter, and I'm joined by Joan Vasos.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, Joan. How are you?
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  Speaker 4: Good. I'm good. How are you?
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  Speaker 2: So good to see you.
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  Speaker 3: I'm glad to be back for another episode of Dirty Rush.
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  Speaker 3: I love doing these because I'm getting all kinds of
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  Speaker 3: nuggets of wisdom from you.
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  Speaker 2: For when Blakeslee, if Blakeslee goes through it next year.
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  Speaker 3: And I do have to say welcome to two.
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  Speaker 2: Of our producers, Reese and Evie.
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  Speaker 3: They are going to talk about their experiences today at UCSB,
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  Speaker 3: which I think we've been talking a lot about the
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  Speaker 3: Southern schools, and that's kind of what is so popular
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  Speaker 3: on social media. But I love hearing about the different
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  Speaker 3: schools and what their experiences are, especially, selfishly, because I
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  Speaker 3: don't even know if Blakeslee is going to apply to
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  Speaker 3: any Southern schools.
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  Speaker 2: So this one is great for me. She's all about California.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm really excited to hear about UC Santa Barbara
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  Speaker 3: and get an inside look at what.
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  Speaker 2: Sorority recruitment is like on the West Coast. So welcome
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  Speaker 2: Reese and Evie.
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  Speaker 5: Hi, thank you for having us.
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  Speaker 6: I'm really excited to hear about it because I don't
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  Speaker 6: think I hardly know anybody from schools out west because
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  Speaker 6: I am on the east coast and most of our
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  Speaker 6: students don't go west. So this is going to be
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  Speaker 6: fun to hear.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Evie and I are also both from western schools too.
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  Speaker 4: She went to UCLA and I went to Cal Poly SLO.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, you guys didn't go to UCSB. You guys, I
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  Speaker 2: was thinking that.
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  Speaker 3: I thought that Evie had gone somewhere else because I
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  Speaker 3: feel like we talked to her a few weeks ago
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  Speaker 3: about her experience.
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  Speaker 2: So yay.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, good.
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  Speaker 2: I'm glad you clarified that.
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  Speaker 6: They were our spies.
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  Speaker 2: Got it. Thank you. I'm so sorry. I totally messed
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  Speaker 2: that up. So yay.
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  Speaker 3: You've got all kinds of good experience because you went
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  Speaker 3: and visited and also went to two different schools. So
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  Speaker 3: give us the rundown. What was your experiment like?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Okay. So we went to get the inside scoop
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  Speaker 4: on Rush. They were starting that night. So their first
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  Speaker 4: round of, I don't know if it's the same, but
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  Speaker 4: at Cal Poly, you have just meeting with your individual
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  Speaker 4: group the first night. So that wasn't meeting all the houses,
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  Speaker 4: but just like getting the gist of things a little
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  Speaker 4: rundown before. So I think that's the event that was
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  Speaker 4: happening the night that we got there. And I didn't
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  Speaker 4: visit any of the Southern schools.
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  Speaker 5: But from what I heard on.
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  Speaker 4: These podcasts, it seemed like there was a lot of
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  Speaker 4: energy in the air.
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  Speaker 5: That day leading up.
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  Speaker 4: But on the UCSB campus, you would not have been
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  Speaker 4: able to tell if rush was happening if it already
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  Speaker 4: had happened. There was none of that like talk going
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  Speaker 4: around the school. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And no stress. And not a lot of stress. Yeah. Wow.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, so they had already started school then.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: It sounds like in the Southern schools, they have rushed
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  Speaker 6: before anybody else is even on campus. So you don't
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  Speaker 6: even come, if you're not rushing, you are not on
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  Speaker 6: campus that whole week before.
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  Speaker 4: I think it was their first days of school and
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  Speaker 4: rush at the same time.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah. That's what we did at my school at University
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  Speaker 6: of Maryland. We rushed right when we were starting classes.
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  Speaker 2: Abby, did you go to Bama?
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 7: So I went, I went to university.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't go, I went to UCLA, but I, but I,
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  Speaker 1: I went to Alabama like as a producer of this
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  Speaker 1: podcast to like report on it and see everything that
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  Speaker 1: was going on down there.
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  Speaker 7: And like, that was the total, total different.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, just like, I think having had had that
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  Speaker 1: experience of going all the way down.
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  Speaker 7: To Tuscaloosa to see.
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  Speaker 1: Just like, how they do recruitment down there is just
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  Speaker 1: like polar opposites from a school like UCSB.
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  Speaker 7: And you would think that, right?
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  Speaker 1: Like you would think that they would be different, but
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  Speaker 1: I mean, UCSB is still another.
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  Speaker 7: Huge state school.
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  Speaker 1: Like it's not a football school or whatever, but like,
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  Speaker 1: it's still this huge state school and like the biggest
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  Speaker 1: state in the country. Like, so you would still think
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  Speaker 1: that there would be like similarities there, but they couldn't
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  Speaker 1: be more different.
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  Speaker 2: That's so interesting.
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  Speaker 3: Do you feel like it's specific to recruitment, like that
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  Speaker 3: whole laid back vibe? Or do you think it's just
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  Speaker 3: that that's the way UCSB is?
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  Speaker 7: I think it's.
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  Speaker 1: Just like, I mean, UCSB is, and like, I've never
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  Speaker 1: been on their campus before, which I was surprised because
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  Speaker 1: there was so much crossover between UCSB and UCLA, especially
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  Speaker 1: when I had so many friends who were from California,
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  Speaker 1: Southern California, who had like their best friends were at
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  Speaker 1: UCSB and they had like found, you know, like some
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  Speaker 1: of their best friends from home were best friends at UCSB.
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  Speaker 1: Like they would go up all the time, whatever. I
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  Speaker 1: had never set foot on the campus till now. And
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  Speaker 1: I'd always heard about how gorgeous it is. And it's
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  Speaker 1: literally like, you're right on like Isle Vistas. Like you're
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  Speaker 1: just right on the point, like right on the cliffs
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  Speaker 1: overlooking the water in Santa Barbara.
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  Speaker 7: It's gorgeous.
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  Speaker 6: That's like a whole thing.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean, there's like great surf breaks that are
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  Speaker 1: literally steps away from where you go to class.
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  Speaker 7: Like the whole.
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  Speaker 1: Vibe is, I would say it's like the most quintessential
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  Speaker 1: California school. When you think Southern California surfers, people walking
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  Speaker 1: around in flip.
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  Speaker 7: Flops and board shorts, like that is the vibe.
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  Speaker 1: So I think like, it's just so different from like
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  Speaker 1: being in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, where the main thing there is
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  Speaker 1: their college campus.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Like that is what I think like culturally, like Southern
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  Speaker 1: versus California is going to be different.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 6: Going to be, I feel like, like, so I also
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  Speaker 6: wonder like, is there, is there a connection between big,
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  Speaker 6: like sec football schools and that a big thing, because
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  Speaker 6: like you want to have your group to go to
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  Speaker 6: the games and it's like, like your weekends or you
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  Speaker 6: need to have your homies with you. Like you need
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  Speaker 6: to have everybody with you that's going to go and
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  Speaker 6: celebrate with you. So maybe the Greek culture gives you
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  Speaker 6: immediate friendships right when you like kind of locked down
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  Speaker 6: at school and you are part of that culture, the
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  Speaker 6: big football culture. And if you don't have a sorority
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  Speaker 6: or fraternity, then you don't have that group of friends
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  Speaker 6: and you're not part of that culture.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say that is like a great tie
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  Speaker 1: or like a great parallel.
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  Speaker 7: I can't think of like a big.
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  Speaker 7: Football school that doesn't have a big Greek culture because.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of like that I don't know like party
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  Speaker 1: social atmosphere versus a school like UCSB that doesn't have
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  Speaker 1: a big football team.
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  Speaker 6: The fall isn't taken over by a football thing, but
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  Speaker 6: they have a more individual thing where you don't need
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  Speaker 6: a big group of people. Like if you're going to
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  Speaker 6: go surfing or like you said, they have this kind
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  Speaker 6: of surf culture, beach culture that doesn't require, you know,
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  Speaker 6: it's not a big team thing that you're doing. Like
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  Speaker 6: you could just grab your best friend and go put
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  Speaker 6: on a bikini and go down the beach.
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  Speaker 4: Right. I will say though, that I think the care
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  Speaker 4: is there. I think that the, the, determining factor of
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  Speaker 4: what's cool or not compared to Southern schools is we
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  Speaker 4: notice a nonchalant off almost like everyone wants to out
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  Speaker 4: cool the other person there. And that the way that
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  Speaker 4: that's like determined at UCSB compared to Southern schools is
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  Speaker 4: at UCSB, it was who can seem to care the least.
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  Speaker 5: And maybe in Southern schools, it's who can seem to
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  Speaker 5: care the most.
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  Speaker 4: So not necessarily that they don't care about getting into
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  Speaker 4: the best or not whatever.
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  Speaker 5: Quote unquote top sorority.
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  Speaker 4: It's just that they're trying so hard to come across
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  Speaker 4: that they don't.
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  Speaker 5: If that makes sense.
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  Speaker 3: That's so interesting. That's such a good way to put it.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like California just exudes that vibe.
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  Speaker 2: Like, You know, it's not a big deal.
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  Speaker 6: But that must be really hard on the side of
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  Speaker 6: the sorority girls. The girls are already in the house
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  Speaker 6: to like kind of work their way through. Like, does
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  Speaker 6: this person, are they just really cool? Or do they
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  Speaker 6: really not want to be in our house where they
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  Speaker 6: want to waste.
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  Speaker 3: A bit on you?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so interesting. I'm really curious.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you guys are talking about big football schools
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  Speaker 3: and that kind of coincides with a huge Greek life system.
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  Speaker 5: But are those schools bigger?
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  Speaker 3: Do they have a bigger Greek life system?
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  Speaker 2: Like UCSB, what would you say the size is?
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  Speaker 3: Like how many houses do they have and how many
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  Speaker 3: girls are going through Rush?
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  Speaker 2: Do you guys know?
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  Speaker 3: I wonder, because I would bet that the Southern schools,
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  Speaker 3: they have those giant houses.
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  Speaker 2: And I know.
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  Speaker 3: You know, SDSU, I've talked to Daisy, I've talked to
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  Speaker 3: our old producer, Hannah, about how And even one of
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  Speaker 3: our friends who's there now about how the Alpha Chi house,
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  Speaker 3: which is what I was.
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  Speaker 2: So they're my sisters.
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  Speaker 5: I was an Alpha Chi.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, you were? Yeah. Love in the bond.
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  Speaker 2: I love it.
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  Speaker 3: But that house on campus at SDSU is super tiny
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  Speaker 3: and like not a lot of people live in it.
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  Speaker 3: I wonder if that's kind of the same as UCSB,
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  Speaker 3: that the houses are smaller, that girls live like in
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  Speaker 3: apartments or off campus when they are upperclassmen. Is that
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  Speaker 3: what you found at UCSB?
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  Speaker 4: I think, yeah, the houses weren't super big. I think
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  Speaker 4: it's also the same at Cal Poly. The houses there
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  Speaker 4: weren't very big. No one really lives in the house
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  Speaker 4: unless from what I found, it was a financial reason,
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  Speaker 4: like it was cheaper than living in other places. But
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  Speaker 4: it wasn't as competitive as trying to get the most
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  Speaker 4: points or whatever your house determines, like delegates it by
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  Speaker 4: like who gets to live there. And I found that
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  Speaker 4: other schools, everyone is like desperate to live in their house.
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  Speaker 4: But I don't think that from my experience or my
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  Speaker 4: friends that were on the West Coast had that same
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  Speaker 4: struggle to live in their house.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: So you talked about like them kind of try to
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  Speaker 6: out cool each other. So they're obviously not wearing the
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  Speaker 6: pink and flower dresses and the high heels or whatever.
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  Speaker 6: What were they wearing?
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  Speaker 4: It was all flip-flops. I don't think we saw a
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  Speaker 4: closed-toed shoe once.
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  Speaker 5: Or barefoot, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: We saw a group of guys just walking barefoot.
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  Speaker 4: Down the street.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, the guys, not the girls going through Rush.
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  Speaker 7: Okay.
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  Speaker 5: I was like, wait, what?
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  Speaker 6: No, no, no. I'm wondering about the girls going through Rush. Like,
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  Speaker 6: what were they wearing?
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  Speaker 4: The girls were all in flip flops. And we saw
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  Speaker 4: two walk out of Pi Phi in white t-shirts, jeans,
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  Speaker 4: flip flops, and then full hair and makeup.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. I love it. I want to go
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  Speaker 2: back to school and go to California.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: That's the way to go.
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  Speaker 1: Right it's so amazing yeah like they're they're like wearing
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  Speaker 1: jeans and it and it whereas like maybe at a
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  Speaker 1: southern school for that level of like casual maybe it's
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  Speaker 1: the first day or whatever maybe you'd be wearing like
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  Speaker 1: slacks and a blouse or yeah a sundress like sundress not.
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  Speaker 3: A dress when you guys say flip-flops are you saying
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  Speaker 3: like like what's that company?
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  Speaker 2: Like rainbows? Like rainbows. Or are you wearing Tory Burch?
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  Speaker 5: No, rainbows.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, it's rainbows.
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  Speaker 3: Got it.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 7: I love it.
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  Speaker 4: 100%.
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  Speaker 6: I love that. That would be my kind of school.
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  Speaker 5: Oh my God.
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  Speaker 2: Blakeslee, I hope she gets in because she will totally
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  Speaker 2: fit in. This is her vibe.
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  Speaker 4: And there was like capris. You could see all the
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  Speaker 4: capris were back too. Girls were wearing like the capris pants. Yeah. Totally.
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  Speaker 6: I would say like.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like I would say like, The girls there are
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  Speaker 1: definitely more on trend as opposed to Southern. It's all
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  Speaker 1: about like being classic, preppy.
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  Speaker 4: But it's also geographical trends. Like those are the trends
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  Speaker 4: for over here. But I'm sure if you were in
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  Speaker 4: a Southern state, the trends would be completely different. Like
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  Speaker 4: a golden goose over there is equivalent to like a
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  Speaker 4: loose capri pant here.
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  Speaker 5: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: So how many people go through Rush at that school?
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  Speaker 6: I mean, I have no, I feel like it's not
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  Speaker 6: a big group.
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  Speaker 4: One of my sister's best friends as a freshman in college,
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  Speaker 4: and she just went through it. And she sort of
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  Speaker 4: was telling me that it's the most girls they've seen yet.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what, but I think the number keeps increasing.
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  Speaker 4: So I don't know if the houses also have the
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  Speaker 4: capacity to fill that.
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  Speaker 5: Because they aren't as big.
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  Speaker 4: So I heard from her that a lot of people
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  Speaker 4: were getting cut this year. So it wasn't Even though
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  Speaker 4: the school itself has a laid back feel, maybe the
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  Speaker 4: process isn't as laid back as it would stereotypically seem. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: To go back to what we were saying, because you
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  Speaker 1: asked Trista how many people go through it. So it's
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  Speaker 1: like about 2,500 students are like active members of Greek life.
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  Speaker 7: And then they're at UCSB. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And then the undergrad population.
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  Speaker 2: Is that including fraternities or just sororities?
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  Speaker 7: That includes fraternities.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 7: And then the undergrad population is 23,000.
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  Speaker 2: So like 10%.
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  Speaker 7: 10%, which is similar. UCLA was like 10% too.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: How do we know how it is in the Southern Hemisphere?
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  Speaker 7: Alabama, it's 40%.
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  Speaker 2: 40%.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 5: I believe that. That's huge.
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  Speaker 2: I believe it too.
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  Speaker 3: I would love to know what Indiana, like how much
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  Speaker 3: it is at Indiana.
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  Speaker 7: Ole Miss, 48%.
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  Speaker 5: Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 2: Almost 50% of people.
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  Speaker 5: Wow.
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  Speaker 6: So like when, if you didn't go through rush into
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  Speaker 6: Southern school, you would feel almost like, I, I, I
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  Speaker 6: got to guess as a freshman, it'd be hard to
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  Speaker 6: make friends because everybody is going through rush. It sounds like,
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  Speaker 6: I mean, I guess everybody doesn't get to school. I
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  Speaker 6: remember them talking about the numbers, like 15,000 girls went
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  Speaker 6: through one of the schools we talked about. And like,
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  Speaker 6: that's insane. That's just incredible. I don't even know how you,
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  Speaker 6: I know that they do a lot of background checks
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  Speaker 6: on the girls. During the summer, and I can't imagine
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  Speaker 6: how they would get through that many. Did you have
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  Speaker 6: any concept or any idea if they do the same
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  Speaker 6: kind of things at the schools that you guys visited?
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  Speaker 6: or the schools that you guys went to, did they
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  Speaker 6: have that kind of committee at Rush that did like
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  Speaker 6: the background checks, scoured social media, created a file for
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  Speaker 6: each girl going through Rush so you had like a
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  Speaker 6: little background on them before they came through your house?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Evie and I were both on exec
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  Speaker 4: at our schools. I know we had a committee, but
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  Speaker 4: I don't think it was the same, at least at
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  Speaker 4: Cal Poly, it wasn't the same scouring of like, They
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  Speaker 4: didn't do, we didn't look through social medias before we
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  Speaker 4: weren't allowed to. So we didn't know anything. Even on exec,
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  Speaker 4: we didn't know anything about who we were talking to
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  Speaker 4: before it happened.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like that has changed, right? Like big time.
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  Speaker 3: They're definitely doing their research.
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  Speaker 2: It seems like.
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  Speaker 6: There's a whole like committee that works all summer.
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  Speaker 2: It's crazy.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: But maybe, maybe you're not doing it at these schools. Maybe,
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  Speaker 6: you know, they, they don't do it. I mean, it sounds.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to give off the impression that they just,
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  Speaker 1: it's completely different on that end. Because from what I know,
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  Speaker 1: like one of my, but I was like, um, president
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: of my sorority at UCLA. And then I was like
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: best friends with the same sorority president at UCSB. And
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: I was talking to her through the whole rush process
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: and was like, any girls that I knew that were
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: going through, I was like, look out for this girl,
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: look out for this girl.
• 15:47
  Speaker 7: And they, and she would give me like a report
• 15:49
  Speaker 7: every day.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: I'm like how she was doing or what, how she
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: thought she was going to go through or whatever. So like,
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: I definitely, there's still the, I think across the board,
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: every house, like you want the best girl. So you're
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: going to like use the resources at your disposal to
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: do that.
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: I would maybe agree if this is what you're saying, like,
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: That it is somewhat more word of mouth and hearsay
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: than the online, I feel like.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: Got it.
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: That makes sense.
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: I feel like you're going to trust your best friend
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: at another house, at another school over what you're hearing
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: online or you should.
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 16:33
  Speaker 6: And people like don't always represent themselves perfectly on Instagram.
• 16:38
  Speaker 6: Like you can't really tell like how involved they are
• 16:40
  Speaker 6: in a club or whatever.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: So no, it's a highlight reel.
• 16:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: I would just say they're probably looking for something different
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: than maybe your typical like Southern girl. Like SB has
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: so many people who are from Southern California or just
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: California in general. Cause it's such a big state school
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: that like you're looking for that.
• 17:03
  Speaker 7: Kind of vibe I think like a chill.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: Beach girl who's maybe she's into music or maybe she's
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: got specific like cool tastes and things or is different
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: in some way or does art or like not to
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: say that Southern schools aren't looking for that I just
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: feel like that's such like a California creative which like
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: was definitely a thing at UCLA but I felt like
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: we had a lot more out of state kids at
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: UCLA or or I mean just like the proximity to
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: the beach I feel like really breeds.
• 17:38
  Speaker 6: That it I so I feel like that beach element
• 17:41
  Speaker 6: is a huge element did you guys get an idea
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: of like which were the top houses and was there
• 17:46
  Speaker 6: did you get a sense of any competitiveness did you
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: talk about did you talk to girls going through this
• 17:52
  Speaker 6: were they aware which were the top houses and were
• 17:54
  Speaker 6: they feeling you know any angst about getting into one
• 17:57
  Speaker 6: of those houses So.
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: One of my good friends who's in a fraternity there
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: still goes there. Cause he's just one year below and
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: we were interviewing him on the street and we asked
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: him what like their perspective was. And even before he
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: could chime in some, another passing by, I think frat
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: guy or just guy was like DG Pi Phi A
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: Phi just said it like interjected and then kept walking.
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: And then my guy friend was sort of in agreement
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: with that, but we just thought it was funny how
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: there was, it seemed like a unanimous understanding, even just
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: from a passerby or like, you know.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: That's interesting.
• 18:36
  Speaker 6: So did you feel like the girls, I guess the
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: frat guys knew it because they were already in the system.
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: The freshmen that are coming in there, do you think
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: that they were kind of in tune, which were, and
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: can you tell, like, are their houses nicer? Are there
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: just more girls in that? So are they like, how
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: do these girls, if it's not such like a big
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: Greek system, how do they find out which house they
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: want to be in? How do they figure that out?
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: I think that a lot, this is where the internet
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: does come into play along with word of mouth, but
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: just like follower counts.
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: That is still a big thing at these schools.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: Really? Yeah.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: This is the first time I am hearing this. So
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: you want your follower count. To be super high when
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: you go, really?
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: And just the house follower counts. Each sorority will have
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: their own Instagram.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: And social media.
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: So whichever one has the most followers, the girls are like,
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: I want to be in that one. Not always, but
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: that is.
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: Normally a telltale sign of what house they want going
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: into it. And then I think the conversation's contribute after
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: the fact.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: I have a follow up question to that. Do you
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: have as part of your executive committee or executive board
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: or whatever you call it? Do you have someone on
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: there who's in charge of your socials like a social
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: media director yes I was I was mine wow and
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: was it your job to just get followers so that
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: you could have an easier time with recruitment wow I
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: mean that.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Is a whole like probably one of next to like
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: president and i don't know vp membership that's probably one
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: of the most important roles i just think your online
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: presence makes such a difference because it's like well i
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: also remember and that like this is something i was
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: thinking about today like ucsb is on the quarter system
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: same with me so when i was going into rush
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: all my friends at home from high school had just
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: gone through like had already left for going to school
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: and i was waiting to like go to school you
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: know plenty of weeks later because I was on the
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: quarter system. And like, I remember just scouring all these
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: Instagram accounts, like spending all my time looking at it,
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: prepping for rush, whatever, getting so excited and seeing, you know,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: which girls do I think what I would like or whatever.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: So you really do end up looking at like their
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Tik TOK and Instagram and And that's where the whole
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: like dancing thing comes into play.
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: And so do they still do that at the California schools?
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: Do they still have a whole like the prep week
• 21:04
  Speaker 6: of learning all the dances, songs and all that? So
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: they still do all that. So it sounds like they
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: are trying to impress the girls that are the PNMs,
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: but they're not trying to impress the girls.
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: I think that the sororities are definitely trying to impress
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: the girls coming in. Even though on the side of
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: being recruited and being a PNM, you feel like you're
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: just trying to get accepted back to all of these
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: houses and it doesn't feel like that.
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: It is a big.
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: Competition between houses for who gets the best new class.
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah. How many people were each of the houses accepting?
• 21:42
  Speaker 6: And did they have a set number? Like everybody was
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: only going to take 25, everybody was going to take
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: 30 or something like that? Or does each house... um,
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: determine their own number?
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: I think it's, it's something that's set across like, um, you,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: you can't have one house that like takes a hundred
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: girls in another that takes 50.
• 22:02
  Speaker 7: It just like, wouldn't be fair.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: So I, from, I don't know exactly how many they
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: took this year, but I know that, um, like the
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: standard was around like, like 75 in a PC and.
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: I think that it keeps increasing because my year when
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: I was accepted as a PNM, we had 64 members
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: in our class.
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: And then this past year, it was above 100. Oh, wow. Yeah.
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: That's huge.
• 22:30
  Speaker 7: I'm talking about UCSB. That's like UCSB numbers.
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's pretty big numbers for what I
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: would consider a smaller Greek system.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: So because we're talking about UCSB, I want to hear
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: about Del Playa. I didn't know about this and we
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: toured UCSB either last year or the year before.
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: Sorry.
• 23:06
  Speaker 7: It's Deltopia.
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: Deltopia. Deltopia.
• 23:10
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: So tell us about what is Deltopia?
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: I need to hear all the things.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: Deltopia is like a huge street party at UCSB.
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: It's, I don't think it happens anymore.
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: I went when I was a freshman in college with
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: my friends because Santa Barbara is an hour and a
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: half away from where I went to school. And we
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: stayed in the dorms with someone. And it's literally just
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: that one street right on the beach where sort of
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: there isn't like a quote unquote frat row. But a
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: lot of the fraternities have houses or like satellite.
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: Houses on that strip.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: They're all throwing parties on the side of the cliff.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: And it turned into something where it was just a
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: huge commuter fest where everyone from out of town came,
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: which I was one of them, so I can't even complain.
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: And then it just got way blown out of proportion.
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: And so they now have super strict police enforcements going
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: on there now.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: So it's not really a thing anymore because they got
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: shut down.
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's too bad. I mean, it sounds really fun.
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: It was fun.
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: I got an MIP though when I went.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Oh, no, that's not good.
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: It's a risk.
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: You survived it.
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: It's okay. We survived.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: I went back when we were touring it again with
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: Evie this past time. I went back to where it
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: went down and I was like, I'm still standing.
• 24:40
  Speaker 7: That's such a good.
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: It's just a warning.
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that was a phone call. My mom didn't love
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: to receive though.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: No, you know what?
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: A phone call that I will never live down is
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: I was at Indiana. I was out for my 21st
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: birthday and my, I may have told the story, Joan,
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: if I have, I'm sorry, I'm telling it again. So
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: it was my 21st birthday and it was a, um,
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: a tradition at IU that everyone does 21 shots on
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: their 21st birthday.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: So I got to 18 freaking shots and I'm, yes,
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: I'm five, two. And then I had gained the 15,
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: the freshman 15, although maybe I wasn't. Yeah, right.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: Um, so there used to be at, um, the, the
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: bar that we were at, which is still there at
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: Indiana Kilroy's. there was a on the wall phone, like
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: an actual phone that you, you know.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: You would whatever, put in a quarter or whatever. Um,
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: they definitely don't have that anymore. Um, and I called
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: my mom and I said, mom, you'd be so proud
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: of me.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: I mean, can you imagine Joan, you get a call
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: from your daughter and you're like, I mean, if Blakeslee
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: called me and she's like, I'd be so proud of you.
• 25:56
  Speaker 7: What do you mean? You just did 18 shots.
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: So we have the same tradition at Maryland, at University
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: of Maryland. And I did all 21. And I was
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: sick for an entire week. And I had to go home.
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: I was so sick. I couldn't stay in my dorm.
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: I had to go home and my mom, I told
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: her I had the flu.
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: Oh, you weren't, you didn't think your mom would be proud.
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: No, I didn't think she would be proud. And I
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: told her I had the flu and she took really
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: good care of me. And I still, to this day,
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: feel guilty. And I'm going to see her tonight. I
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: think I'm going to, I'm going to confess it tonight.
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: You're going to come clean?
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: I'm going to come clean tonight.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: She's 94.
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: I don't know if I have much time. So I'm
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: going to do it tonight.
• 26:32
  Speaker 7: Oh, Joan, do it tonight.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Report back. I need to hear how it goes.
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: You did 21 shots. That's hysterical.
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: My goodness.
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: Matt, it's amazing. We're all still alive, isn't it?
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: We're all still.
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: Thank God.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: And thank God my mom forgave me because why would
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: I think that my mom would be proud of me
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: that I did 18 shots?
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Like, come on.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: I probably just gave her a minor heart attack, you know?
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: Like I'm going to have your stomach pumped right now.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. You're coming at me.
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: I have your stomach pumped.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: That this, that since the houses, the sorority houses aren't huge,
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: that there are other ways that the girls get together.
• 27:13
  Speaker 6: Do they have satellite houses? Do, how do they figure
• 27:16
  Speaker 6: out how to socialize if they're not all gathering at
• 27:18
  Speaker 6: the big house?
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: So I, I do maybe want to correct Reese here
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: because they were like, or just interject. I think I
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: heard that they do house like up to 45 members
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: and then only like you know, if you had 70
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: members in a pledge class, then like, you know, that
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: it wasn't required that everyone's lives in, but you know,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: you know, half of your pledge class could, I mean,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: the houses look, they didn't, I mean, they weren't like
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Bama big or even like our UCLA houses were pretty big,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: but they looked like, I mean, great big houses that
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: a bunch of girls could.
• 27:56
  Speaker 7: Go hang out in.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 27:58
  Speaker 6: So they're doing a gathering place.
• 27:59
  Speaker 7: Yeah, definitely.
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: Like what do you, do you have like not with
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: these smaller houses, I assume you still have formal dinners
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: and you have all your meetings there. And you know,
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: if there's like, you can probably go there for not
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: formal dinners.
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: Is that what the house is used.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: For, for people who aren't living in it?
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, they, yeah, they have, it's like the same
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: thing kind of like what I had at UCLA with
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: having like a chef and staff and people that, you know,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: take care of the place.
• 28:33
  Speaker 7: Like, and they're doing the same kind of.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know, activities that you would do at other places,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: like houses, like your sisterhoods.
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 28:43
  Speaker 7: And things like that.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: I feel like the biggest thing that I noticed with,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: which was what you were saying, Trista with like Del
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Playa is where the campus is and it's all within
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: like a few blocks, you have all the sorority houses,
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: all the fraternity houses on the blocks that like go
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: right up to the beach.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: So, so it is called Del Playa is the area.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: I thought you were.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: Talking about Deltopia, which is the name of the party,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: which is this huge party that they have every now
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: that I think has been shut down. But I mean,
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: I think all of this like kind of makes it
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: to like such a It is very much like a
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: social and like party school. I think like it's been
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: voted like the number one party school. Nuh-uh.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: Really?
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Compared to Arizona?
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: It has been like because also like UCSB had these
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: like infamous. Halloween parties, not like back in like the
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: eighties and nineties. And then, or maybe I'm like dating
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: that too late, but I know it was like when
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: my friend's parents went to UCSB and they shut down,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: like it got so dangerous because a big thing is like,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: they're on this cliff. And when people get drunk, there's
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: been like deaths.
• 30:01
  Speaker 7: That have happened.
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: Oh my gosh. So scary.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: And it's the most compact, like square mileage or something
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: of like under 21 year olds or like in the war.
• 30:16
  Speaker 7: In the U S or something.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. That's cool.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: So they kind of like rule this area and are
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: not like as intact with like the outer community of
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: or the other people that live nearby. So I think
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: they kind of just like run this area and things like, you.
• 30:33
  Speaker 7: Know, can get out of hand.
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: So I think they shut down Halloween a long time
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: ago and then all the UCSB kids would come down
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: to UCLA for Halloween.
• 30:42
  Speaker 7: And then now I.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Think they've, they've always had this like Deltopia party and
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: everyone would go up to UCSB for Deltopia. And now they,
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: I don't, I think they've since shut it down just
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: because it's gotten way too crowded.
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 30:56
  Speaker 7: Out of hand. Like, we're not talking about, like, one
• 30:59
  Speaker 7: frat party.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: We're talking about, like, 20 frat parties going on at
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: the same time, all, like, on the coast.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: And just, like, there's... Oh, my gosh.
• 31:09
  Speaker 7: I mean, I've had a grease race. There's, like.
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: steel fences like wired fences like in between each one
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: and girls are like not even girls me and my
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: friends were climbing over them like in our bathing suits
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: and I think we had like twisted tees because that's
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: what they were giving out oh gosh it was just
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: it was fun but it was definitely like a scary
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: situation waiting to happen with all these young people on
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: the edge of a cliff.
• 31:38
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