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Google Whistleblower Gives DIRE Warning About Twitter’s ”Free Speech” — Zach Vorhies Interview · Man in America Podcast

• 1:14
  Seth Holehouse: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Wilhaus. If you look around, you can see that the life as we know it is, in many ways, a construct of what we see on our phones, what we see on the screen, what we see watching Netflix, you know, reading Google, looking for things, searching. And the role of the digital world and the role that it has in shaping our perception of the real world cannot be overlooked. And so joining us today is is a good friend of mine, Zach Voorhees, who was, he really became more famous as the Google whistleblower.
• 1:54
  He's the one that came forth and and exposed all kinds of just terrible things that Google is doing, especially as it related to the twenty twenty election. And so but he's also someone that is really on the forefront of keeping an eye on what's happening with technology, AI, social media, big tech, censorship, and seeing how it's shaping our future. So we're gonna be diving into the role of AI in a future society and how that could be used to bring about a very Orwellian society, but also taking a look at the what he thinks to expect as we're entering into 2024, the election cycle again. What's what's, you know, the role of Twitter going to be, which is now the free speech platform? Is that really what's going to be happening?
• 2:39
  But we're also gonna be looking at not just the specifics of AI and how that's affecting the the overall landscape of our world, But really importantly, how psyops are being used and created and amplified to keep us fighting against each other. Right? Whereas we saw it was, you know, I've got my vaccine, I'm anti vaccine, I wear my mask, I'm anti mask, I support Ukraine. I'm I support Russia. I, you know, I BLM, anti BLM.
• 3:08
  Now it's Israel or Palestine or this everything is just it's it seems like all of these mechanisms are dividing us in endless ways, almost to a point where it doesn't make sense. And so we're talking about that, but also getting into, what's the point of that? What does it do? What what kind of future are they creating for us? So this will be maybe what you might think is to be a little more of a heady discussion as we're just going into a lot of what ifs.
• 3:33
  But I think it's important because what's happening with technology and its use in controlling the narrative and what goes viral on Twitter or what doesn't is really important for us to understand. So folks, please enjoy this interview with Google whistleblower Zach Voorhees. Zach, it's good to have you back on the show. Thank you so much for joining us today.
• 3:54
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Seth. It's always good to be back.
• 3:56
  Seth Holehouse: Thank you. So as usual, there's about a thousand different things that we can talk about, but I I typically look to you as someone that understands not just big tech and and what what that means, but the role of big tech and AI and that kind of push towards transhumanism, how it all fits together, and also how it's used as a control mechanism for the populace. And so as, you know, here we are, you know, we as we're talking about before the show, you know, we've got first, it was Israel, Ukraine, then it was like, are you vaxxed or unvaxxed? And then now it's, you know, certainly not Israel, Ukraine, Russia, Ukraine. And now it's I stay with Israel, I stay with Hamas, or I stay with Palestine, and it's it's everyone's continually being divided.
• 4:44
  And I think that big tech certainly has a a role with this. But I I wanna kind of with this discussion, we'll see where it takes us. But dive into from your perspective with this rollout of, obviously, ChatGPT, but the advancements of AI, then getting into deep fakes, you know, fake audio, etcetera. How do you see technology being used as a tool in the hands of those who want to enslave us?
• 5:13
  Speaker 2: Right. Well, let's get started with this whole thing that's going on with Middle East blowing up with you know, are you on the side of Israel? Are you on the side of Hamas and the Palestinians? And I think that this is really interesting because they're basically giving these two sides, and everyone's kinda being slotted into these two sides. And those that are sort of, you know, pay attention with the information's coming out, we realized that, well, Hamas is a creation of the UN and Israel.
• 5:45
  Right? And and they used it in order to subvert the secular Palestinian leadership, which was Arafat back in the nineties, and he he died shortly after he came out of power. And Hamas has been sort of the stand in leadership that has been, you know, get getting funding by the UN, getting funding by The USA. Their schools are being run by the UN. And in these schools, it's radicalism that people wouldn't even recognize.
• 6:22
  Like, it's so extreme. They're like, what is going on here? In fact, they would probably refuse to believe it if even if they were shown the videos. But I saw this video the other day about this graduation of of kids from elementary school. And during their, during that graduation ceremony, they did a mock, military exercise where they were dressed in camouflage and, what looked like, assault rifles, sweeping into a house with, smoke grenades and killing the occupants.
• 6:55
  And that that's, like, their graduation, you know, ceremony. And you see these kids, they're in school, and they're talking about that, you know, their life is, you know, destined for martyrdom to kill the Zionist occupiers. And people are like, why is Hamas being radicalized? It's like, well, why don't we look at the UN funded schools that directly have this as their curriculum? You know, we are funding and radicalizing these people as part of our state policy.
• 7:26
  And now, there's evidence that, you know, with this latest thing that happened on October 7, that Hamas was allowed to fly over the border, James Bond style, in these, motorized paragliders, which probably have a max speed of, like, 35 miles an hour. And they came in. Everyone was unarmed because they were given a text message saying, do not bring, you know, guns into the, festival. It's called the Nova Festival, I believe. And, so everyone came unarmed, which is really highly unusual because, you know, my aunt worked for the IDF.
• 8:01
  Those people are armed to the teeth. You know? And so this idea that a bunch of Hamas people with light arms could just come and just take all these hostages without any fire, you know, what's going on there? Well, it turns out, through rumor, that's been reported deep within the Internet that everyone that went to that NOVA Fest received a text message saying explicitly, do not bring any guns to this event. Additionally, the IDF, I mean, look.
• 8:25
  They they've got eyes in the sky. They know everything that's going on. The the idea that they would not scramble a bunch of jets and helicopters to stop this thing is also, like, eye raising. Additionally, Hamas took control of the road leading in and out, and the IDF didn't respond for seven hours. And then when they got there, massive firepower was used, not just small arms rifles, but, a tank was used, which shelled that caboots.
• 8:52
  Also, the Apache, Apache helicopter was utilized to mow everyone down, and they're like, well, we couldn't figure out who the terrorists and the hostages were. And so it looks like a lot of the people that were, killed in this, were killed in this, so called well, let's just put it in the best way, crossfire. And those people were said that they were all killed by Hamas terrorists, but that's more of a technicality of everyone that dies in a crossfire when, there is an altercation is blamed on the people that took the hostages rather than the people that actually pulled the trigger and fired the bullet and killed the individual. And so now we're in this, like, you know, this nine eleven type false flag, and, there's now huge conflict that's going on. And as a result of this, people are being slotted into, oh, the Hamas has a right to defend their homeland from the occupiers versus Israel saying, well, they a bunch of their people got murdered, and so they're justified in this latest incursion, which looks like it's gonna turn into ethnic cleansing.
• 9:58
  And the question is, to what degree is it gonna be, you know, ethnically cleansed? And so now we're we're in this thing where people are going, oh, Israel versus Hamas. And now the latest thing that's on TikTok is that there's a bunch of people reading the old letters of Osama bin Laden and finding out that they actually agree with everything that they that he said. And I just find that so hilarious because in order to believe that and be sympathetic to Osama bin Laden, you first have to believe that he is naturally against The United States instead of being a creation of the CIA. And that letter that he sent, like, that that's not the opinion of Osama bin Laden.
• 10:42
  That's the opinion of the CIA who penned the letter. Right? And so this this whole thing of, like, you know, which side do you pick? Like, these are the sides that are being prescribed and pushed by the algorithms. So we get divided and we start fighting.
• 11:01
  And the question is, why would the CIA put explicitly anti Zionist slash anti Semitic content into a letter that they're pushing out to the individuals? And the answer to that, as best as I can answer it, is, well, they're setting up the plot points for what is going to unfold next.
• 11:23
  Seth Holehouse: And there's so much to unpack there, but it's it's it's interesting because you mentioned Osama bin Laden and these letters coming out and these people reading what you're seeing it, you know, it's all over, you know, Twitter now. Right? It's discussion these these, you know, Osama bin Laden letters. And it's interesting because people take it at face value, like, oh, look, this is what Assam bin Laden, this is why he was attacking America. But you're you're so right though, is that well, you had to look look behind the the SIOP and say, well, okay.
• 11:54
  Yeah. Yeah. Who was writing those letters? Like, what's their what's the intention with this? Right?
• 11:59
  The fact that, yeah, Osama was a CIA asset. And so now his letters are magically being kind of, you know, shared around TikTok, which also makes me think, why is it that the algorithms are picking these things up? And and this is what's what's interesting. I wanna hear about what you think comes next. Right?
• 12:14
  And what they're setting the stage for because but what I can see, I'll throw this comment out there, that with so many issues, say it's climate, there's a very distinct line between the left and the right, for instance, abortion, you know, there's gun control. And then even, you know, global issues. Right? You mostly that, you know, if you look at Russia, Ukraine, that started to fracture things where you had certain, you know, what I would call it the neocons that were just like, you know, like, they're coming out and foaming. We had a lot of people on the right that were like, hold on, there's these bio labs, it doesn't make sense.
• 12:46
  And, you know, we know that the CIA was involved in this kind of stuff. And it's but then it's almost like that didn't work like it should have in terms of fracturing it enough. But then now you enter into this Middle Eastern, you know, this this this what's going on over there, this kind of catastrophe, but then you see that there's there's it's impossible to pick one of two sides, and you're seeing that even, like, the Democrats are really angry because their Democrat leaders are actually, you know, kind of aligning with the neocons and saying, you know, this is this is it needs to be war. And it's like everything is just being turned upside down. Like, everyone it's almost like there's, like, the importer programming.
• 13:28
  Now there's flashing all the words at once, and everyone's just spinning around with foam coming out of their mouths.
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: Right. And a lot of people that would froth at the mouth, you know, for saying that, you know, there that there's a depressor group out there, and all of a sudden, they're they're going full anti beyond anti Zionist. Like, they're going antisemitic saying that you support Zionism, and so you're a bad person. Like, I'm seeing it all like, it's blowing my mind. I would've never thought that this would happen in the span of two weeks, but this is where we're at right now.
• 13:58
  Right? And everyone's picking this side. And it's it's funny that these people, you know, that are indoctrinated with all this propaganda just flip on a dime. Right? What was completely socially unacceptable two weeks ago is now mainstream.
• 14:11
  Mainstream. Right? And, you know, it's it's going past all of the filters. Right? Like, you had the ADLs what what's his name?
• 14:23
  Rosenblatt. Greenblatt. Greenblatt. Right? He he went in and right before this war, he was, like, talking about Elon Musk needing to get rid of antisemitism.
• 14:30
  And I was, like, thinking to myself, why is all of a sudden this is picking up right now? Like, what's is there something that's gonna happen? And now it's happening. And now, you know, you I mean, Twitter will will censor. Like, they've got no hesitation about censoring.
• 14:46
  And yet all this stuff that's coming out, they're just letting it go. And I know that they've got that button right there where they could just hit it and turn their AI algorithms on to censor all of the content. Right? But instead, what's happening is that you've got people that are explicitly anti Semitic, anti Zionist that, are proliferating and getting huge audiences. Like, this this new guy who reinvented himself.
• 15:10
  What's his name? Lucas Gage.
• 15:11
  Robert Kiyosaki: Lucas
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: Gage. Seen him. Yeah. You know, he is seeing record growth on his Twitter page, and it's it's scary to watch. And and I and I look at this.
• 15:27
  I'm like, okay. This is part of the agenda. This is definitely part of the agenda. They're wanting to grow the anti Semitic side. And a lot of the a lot of the people that are pushing this are actually Jews themselves.
• 15:37
  Right? Like, like, we wouldn't even be talking about this October 7 thing if it weren't for Max Blumenthal, right, like a Jewish writer. And so it's it's interesting is that this this anti Zionist, anti Semitic sentiment is actually being initiated from a nucleating event where there's a lot of, you know, Jewish writers that are actually pushing it themselves and people are picking up. They think that it's now safe to talk about it, and so now they're spilling it over on social media, which is gonna be which is permanent. It's gonna be vacuumed up forever.
• 16:08
  And when the Overton window switches in the future to something else, then all of a sudden what you're gonna find is that the content that you said on social media is now outside of the Overton window in a future time frame. And so then all of a sudden, you're gonna be like, oh, you said this ten years ago, and now you're gonna be able to be canceled, which is funny because now that the Overton window is moving so far back and forth, everyone's gonna be outside of it given a long enough time period. Right? Because whatever the current thing narrative is and when you say something about that, now it's no longer socially acceptable, and boom. Now you can be canceled.
• 16:45
  And so it's it's interesting because I see this as a big intelligence op so that everyone commits some sort of fatal sin that seems like it's all right now, but then once it happens in the future, all of a sudden, it's no longer, you know, gonna be okay anymore.
• 17:01
  Seth Holehouse: Hey, folks. I've got a quick message for you. So I'm sure you've heard a lot of people, myself included, talking about the importance of buying precious metals, gold and silver. But what's really behind that? Is it just a thing of, hey, buy this gold, buy this silver.
• 17:15
  Right? Or is there something deeper that we should be looking at? So I recently came across some figures about house prices. So in 1930, the average family home was approximately $4,000. Fast forward to 02/2023, the average family home is just over $400,000.
• 17:33
  So you have to ask yourself, why is that? Is it because things have just gotten more expensive? No, it's actually because the dollar has lost 99% of its value since 1930. When people talk about the collapse of the dollar or inflation, this is what it means. Now, let's take a look at gold.
• 17:48
  So in 1930, if you wanted to purchase your home in gold, it would take approximately 200 gold coins. So 200 gold coins would purchase the average family home in 1930, about $4,000. Now, if you instead of buying a home with that gold or cash, you set those aside. If you set aside $4,000 in cash in 1930, it would be worth $4,000 today. What can you buy with $4,000?
• 18:15
  Can you buy a family home? No, you can't even buy a crappy used car. But if you set aside $4,000 worth of gold coins in 1930, which is 200 gold coins, 1 ounce coins, that would be worth approximately $400,000 today. And this is the key lesson about precious metals. It's not about getting rich.
• 18:37
  It's about putting your money into an asset that protects you against inflation and against the destruction of the currency, which is what happens to all fiat currencies, especially now we're in the end days of the dollar. And so that's why it's important, maybe not all of your money, but a portion of your money, a portion of what you have, I highly recommend putting it into precious metals of gold and silver because what it's doing is it's protecting you. This is an asset that has stood the test of time, not just stood the test of time since the 1930s, we're talking about the rise and fall of civilizations. Gold was used to buy houses back in ancient Rome. It's still around.
• 19:16
  It's an asset that will forever have its value. So folks, if you want to do this and you need someone you can trust, there's no person I can recommend more than Doctor. Kirk Elliott. He's a very good friend of mine. He's a strong Christian patriot, and he's out to really help people to protect their savings and what you've worked for against the destruction of the dollar, not to mention also protecting it against the dangers of a central bank digital currencies.
• 19:39
  So to learn more about this, go to goldwithseth.com or call (720) 605-3900. Again, that's goldwithseth.com or (720) 605-3900. Both those places will allow you to set up a quick appointment where you can talk to a wealth advisor that will help get you started on this path. Again, goldwithseth.com 7 2 0 6 0 5 3 9 0 zero. And so I have a question regarding that because so we know that, you know, any mention of the Jews.
• 20:13
  Right? That's that's the the the keyword that say five years ago, like, nobody would talk about it. But you're right. Now it's become something that you see like Lucas Gage, for instance. You see these accounts are just growing massive on that, but they've they've laid the groundwork for this.
• 20:28
  I mean, look at every Hollywood movie about war is about Hitler. Okay. It's it's it's really it's about reinforcing this this this idea. Alright, that that like, this is such a traumatic thing you can't touch. I'm not gonna get into any of that particular discussion.
• 20:44
  But the point is, is that I've, you know, and I've wondered about this with Twitter and with Elon Musk, there was a campaign back under Mao. I think it was either the hundred flowers or thousand flowers. I forget what their thousand talents
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: Thousand Points of Light or thousand flowers I forget
• 20:59
  Seth Holehouse: that was one these fancy names. But basically, what it was is that at some point, Mao invited all of the intellectuals and critics of governance to come forth and and and give them the ideas of how they could improve running the country. Right? So he invited the people to come out and speak freely, but that was how they identified who to kill. And so anybody that came forth and spoke freely and questioned the government was then flagged and then murdered because those are the people they're gonna question the government.
• 21:26
  And so when Elon Musk first bought Twitter and he opened up this discussion, I couldn't help but thinking that. I couldn't help but thinking, is this gonna eventually be used against us? Does that, you know, because I saw these conservatives going on there like, wow, I'm gonna test this. Like, the election was stolen. This, the vaccines are killing you.
• 21:44
  And like, they're getting excited about saying all the things that they couldn't say. But that wasn't enough. Now that we're getting into the Middle Eastern conflict and the idea of the Zionists and that whole discussion, which was so privatized before, it makes me wonder if one of two things is playing out. One, they're creating a list of in the future of anybody they wanna go after. Once they shift that over to a window, they can say, look, you said this three years ago, which they're canceling people over something they'd said fifteen years ago.
• 22:15
  Right? Right. So that's one aspect of it. But the other one is if it's some sort of controlled burn, some sort of thing where they can then point to Twitter, like, right, in in in the future, they'll point back to Twitter and say, look look at what happened when we removed censorship. The entire Internet became anti Semitic, and and and and it blew up.
• 22:39
  And this is now the lesson of why we always have to censor because when you give people freedom of speech, this is what happens. What do you what do you think?
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think I mean, I as soon as this started happening, I my thoughts also went to the Chinese Communist Party and their campaign to get everyone to out themselves. Right? And I I agree with that 100%. This is what this is.
• 23:05
  And I you know, if if I see a TikTok video that goes viral where people are reading Mein Kampf and they're just like, oh my god. My whole world's been turned upside down, you know, because Mein Kampf, like, if I see that on TikTok, I'll be like, yep. That sounds like it fits the pattern of everything else that we're gonna see. In fact, I I think better than Vegas odds, that's what's gonna happen within the next five years. There'll be a trend of people reading Mein Kampf and talking about it, and, and that's gonna enrage a lot of the people that are in positions of power.
• 23:40
  And right now what I see and I'm predicting is that well, I've been predicting this for a year. I said, I think we might be coming up to a rug pull event on the left, And it hasn't been getting that much traction on Twitter. People don't like that theory. But now all of a sudden, I'm looking at everything that's going on. I'm like, this could be the rug pull pattern that we see.
• 24:01
  What are some of the evidence? Some of the most adamantly anti Trumpers on Twitter right now are saying, I'm gonna vote for Trump, you know, because we gotta put a lid on this anti Semitism. It blew my mind. Like, this is this just happened today. Maybe I can get this video.
• 24:18
  I don't know if this sounds gonna be good.
• 24:19
  Seth Holehouse: Actually, I I can pull up the video of of Michael Rappaport. Right?
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Michael Rappaport. Right? The the most virulent anti Trumper is now saying that he might reconsider and vote for Trump. Like, you can't make this stuff up.
• 24:32
  You know? And and now it's like, okay. Well, this right here.
• 24:35
  Seth Holehouse: Wait. Wait. Wait. Play it real It's about it's a minute twenty two, so I'll pull actually, I just wanna say that as well. I did it it's the hundred flowers campaign.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Yes. This is
• 24:43
  Seth Holehouse: this is the name of the campaign that Mao did. This is in 1956 when he allowed all the intellectuals to come out and then killed them all. So anyway, yeah, let's go and play this because this this is his plays into okay. So here's Michael Rapaport who there's there's your comment. Hell has frozen over.
• 24:58
  So let's go and play this.
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: New York City, climb in public in front of crowds of people, rip down UN flags, rip down Israeli flags, rip down American flags on Veterans Day. When the economy is the way the economy is, when I'm paying fucking mortgage rates up the wonk up I mean, I'm getting forget a forget a colonoscopy. You don't need to get a colonoscopy. Go, go buy a house. The interest rates, go buy a car.
• 25:34
  And I know smoking Joe has done some things for the I know. But I'm telling you right now, go go buy yourself a go go check go check what it's like to buy a car. Buy a house. The money, the fucking chaos in this country, the chaos around the world. If it comes down to pig dick Donald Trump and smoking Joe Biden, I'm sorry.
• 26:00
  I am sorry. Voting for pig dick Donald Trump is on the table. I'm sorry.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: I'm fucking I
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: still call him slob dick Donald Trump.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Should I should
• 26:14
  Seth Holehouse: give people a a language warning. I I hadn't seen that video. I haven't listened to it yet. But that's this this is a perfect example. Like Yeah.
• 26:23
  Something is breaking. Something in in the the just the social order is now completely imploding, and and I can't make sense of it.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Right. Well, they wanna move us to the other side. Right? Like, you you know, if you have a ideological belief and that remains stable over a period of time, then, you know, that forms your core personality. But if you believe something on Friday and then something happens and two weeks later, you come to a different conclusion, you don't really have any stability in your ideology.
• 26:53
  Right? Because you're just submitting to the mass consensus of the current thing narrative. And that that's what they're doing. It's a it's a meant it's a demoralization technique to rob us of consistency in our own belief system because people are just submitting to whatever the current trend is.
• 27:12
  Seth Holehouse: Interesting. And, that that came out in rape of the mind was I mean, when when studying you know, I went through a kind of phase of looking into the the whole, you know, kind of idea of mass formations, you know, mass psychosis, mass formation theory, rape of the mind, which is a really good book about human psychology. But one thing that they said in that in terms of breaking down an individual's psych belief system is is constantly, like, giving and taking, giving and taking, and raising the fear, and raising and raising fear, releasing the fear. And you can see even when a lot of people, you know, they say that they would you know, Fauci's emails were leaked, and they'd say, oh, he says that masks don't work. And a lot of people on the right were like, yes, this is great.
• 27:59
  Like, let's let's go show people. But I actually, I think that that was intentional. Like, I think they intentionally wanted to make it so that people didn't know what they could trust. They didn't know like, they couldn't figure out. They're so scrambled that what it does, and we talked about in in these ideas of misinformation, is that eventually what happens is that people just they just submit.
• 28:21
  They they it's their world so scrambled. They just submit to whatever authority seems to be the ones that that can help guide them through the chaos.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Right. And and I got I wanna add to that because, like, during the 2020 thing with the COVID, right, like, got asked, invited to speak to a number of Zoom calls with very prominent leaders on the right, and they looked to me to say that masks didn't work. And I said, if the masks didn't work, then Amazon eBay wouldn't have taken them off the market right as COVID was happening in March of twenty twenty. Like, remember that. There was this call by the leadership that people were being abused by price gouging, and so they took the masks off.
• 29:09
  You couldn't buy a mask. Right as the right as the pandemic was hitting, you couldn't buy a mask on the market through electronic means. And you try to go to a local, you know, market like your Walgreens or something, and they were all out of masks. Like, literally everyone was out of masks. And this whole thing that masks don't work, that's ridiculous.
• 29:27
  Like, I could go to scholar.google.com, which unfortunately is my go to for, research information, like published papers, looking for an alternative. Anyone knows, hit me up on Twitter. But I looked at that, and there was concrete evidence that masks, even n 95, do dampen the spread of even viral diseases. Right? And what's really interesting is that I was I was working with, what's that woman's name that was in Plandemic, the first movie?
• 29:59
  Mikovits. Yeah. Judy Mikovits. I had a I had a huge argument with her. Right?
• 30:04
  Because I said, what do you mean? Why are you telling people that masks don't work? And she's like, well, the virus, you know, particle is smaller than the threads of the mask. I said, yeah. But 99% of that virus is not aerosolized.
• 30:18
  It's in the spit, and those spit particles are larger than the threads. Like and as soon as it hits those threads, it's gonna be absorbed into that thread. It's like, yeah, maybe it's not a % effective, but it's gonna be really effective at reducing the spread. And the thing is is that if you get, you know, colonized by this virus, you know, do you wanna have a million particles in your nose, or do you wanna have 10,000? Right?
• 30:46
  And that's that's the damping that we look at because, look, you know, those exponential curves, like, once you have a certain load, but they they grow really fast. But real at the beginning, that that curve is very, very flat. It almost looks like it's nonexistent. And then all of a sudden, goes whoop like that. So do you if you're gonna be on the curve, do you wanna be on here where it looks flat, or do you wanna be here where it looks like a vertical bar?
• 31:09
  And, and none of that got any traction. And to my utter surprise, as this thing was hitting, everyone was like, oh, masks do nothing. And that's the wrong sort of thing because what we should have been saying is, well, masks help a little bit, but the whole n ninety five, like, SIOP, was trying to get people to argue about whether a shitty mask was effective or not, which we really should have been asking is, okay. Well, you know, where do we get p 100 masks? Because it's the p 100 mask that's really effective in blocking the transmission of viruses and bacteria, and they're not that much more expensive than n 90.
• 31:49
  And so this whole thing was to get us to put our attention over fighting masks and making the right look like freaking idiots. Right? Like, you got this pandemic that's killing, you know, mama dad was the narrative. Right? Like, it wasn't that lethal.
• 32:02
  But they were saying they're they're putting this up so that we were fighting over, who was right about a a a shitty kind of ineffective mask. And and I'm just sitting here watching this going, can we real can we have, like, a real science debate? And they've robbed that from us because they want us to concentrate on the misinformation aspects of the narrative that they're pushing out.
• 32:28
  Seth Holehouse: Hey, folks. I have a quick message for you. Thank you so much for watching and listening to this interview. I have one small request. If you're enjoying what you're listening to, could you please share this interview with one person?
• 32:41
  Just one person. Because of censorship and shadow banning, it's so hard to get this content out to more people. And the only way we can really do it is when you help by sharing it. So if you like what you're listening to, hit pause, share it with one person. It helps so much.
• 32:55
  Thank you so much. And you made some good points. I mean, for me, it was like, whether the masks worked or not, because I've read a lot, you know, to kind of convince me that they weren't very effective. But that's the thing is, is that for me, it was like, I will never like I refuse to wear one. Right?
• 33:14
  Because like, will not allow my government to overreach and force me or force my child to do something like that. Because then, you know, if you look into studies of the kids that were forced to wear those things for eight hours a day, and they've got all kinds of bacterial growth on their face, not to mention the psychological. So it's kind of funny because you made a good point, where it's like everyone's arguing over this point. And everyone's, you know, looking at that and then there's all there's all these other points to it, which are I think, you know, you could say are actually much more important to discuss. And for me, like that point was just, like, what, you know, at what level can I will I allow myself, my my government to compel me into something?
• 33:51
  Right? Because then it's like and I think a lot of the a lot of the mask was part of a psychological operation to get people into accepting whatever the next thing was. Right? It's kind of like this this, you know, process. But I wanna go back to
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: Also also I wanna add, it makes the left hate the right because they think that they're absolute lunatics. And then when the vaccines come in, they don't wanna listen to anything that we have to say at all about the topic.
• 34:18
  Seth Holehouse: Exactly. Exactly. And that's that's the deeper thing is that the whatever we see happening in in society, especially when it comes through this massive orchestration of, you know, globalist organizations working together with governments, which are completely sold off and bought off, working together with the giant corporatocracy, with the media, and and the tech giants. And you can see that when they're doing something like this, that they're never just one isolated event. It's part of this multi, multi stepped psychological operation.
• 34:47
  And so getting back, so I want to touch mentioned earlier, I don't want to lose this particular thread, where you said that you can see how what's happening with the online censorship and the opening up of discussion, everything, how it's laying the foundation for what comes next. And and I wanna I wanna just kinda hear you talk about what comes next from your perspective.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: Right. Well, we're coming into deep contradictions with our economic system. And most people, they concentrate on, like, the debt and, you know, the CDBC. I think those are really relatively unimportant to the big elephant in the room, which is what are we gonna do when human and intellectual labor goes from worthing something and being worth absolutely nothing, which is quickly happening. Now I'm on the, you know, the cutting edge of this.
• 35:39
  I use AI for programming now. I didn't used to use it like a year and a half ago. Now I use it. I hit my rate limits. I'm using it so much.
• 35:48
  And so, you know, I'm I'm on this thing where it's, like, sort of like a a benign transhumanism. You know? Like, I don't have a chip in my head, but I'm outsourcing cognitive labor to an AI system at this point. And the thing is is that the amount that it's getting better is going up really, really fast. Right?
• 36:08
  Last year, you could put in a page of prompt information, and then chat GPT four would come up with an answer. And then it went from one page to 57, which which is what they call the 32 k token chat GPT four. And now they went from 32 k tokens to a hundred and 28, which is the equivalent of 300 pages out of a book. Right? So as your input, you can input now a model, an entire book.
• 36:37
  And I wanna preface this by saying it's not available to everyone. The only people that have access to this right now are the people that are paying $1,000 a month to OpenAI. They get this text window. So it's these elites that are like, oh, yeah. 12 k a year.
• 36:53
  No problem. You know? Just give me the access to prompt for an entire book. Like, you could take an entire book and then say, you know, write a second book to the first book. Right?
• 37:05
  And because it's got this huge context window, it's gonna be able to do exactly that. And so it's like, well, what's this input window gonna be like from a year from now? Like, if we went from one page to 300, if we see that happen again from, you know, 300 to, let's say, 3,000, 30 thousand. That's a million a million page book. Right?
• 37:27
  That that would be the equivalent of going from where we were last year, this year, from this year to next year. So imagine putting in the entire Encyclopedia Britannica into, you know, a a chatbot and then, you know, say rewrite this entire thing but exclude this important fact, and then you could have the entire history rewritten and then republished. Right? You know, what are some of the things that are of that scale? Well, that's Wikipedia.
• 37:55
  Right? Like, you could rewrite Wikipedia and have this 1984 style where whenever a piece of history changes, they just rewrite all the the books and the encyclopedias so that they can alter history to make it conform with what the current narrative is. And the thing that they got wrong in 1984 is that they had to dedicate 15% or actually it's 14% of the population to this rewriting, right, for at the behest of the inner party, which was 1%. But, I don't think Orwell saw the advancements in cognitive AI that would form that are currently here now. And so now what you can do is you can use a chatbot or very soon you'll be able to use a chatbot to rewrite all of Wikipedia so that according to that, it was always this way.
• 38:47
  And people are gonna be in a perpetual state of unknowing where only the truth exists in the present, and any truth that exists in the past is no longer relevant and is therefore deleted.
• 38:58
  Seth Holehouse: Folks, I have a quick message for you. Look. The twenty twenty four election is do or die for the globalist and communists that had infiltrated our country and are currently running it. And they either have to win or they're gonna destroy America so nothing is left either way. And if you're the person that's watching this show and following this information, unfortunately, you have the weight on your shoulders of making sure that your family is prepared, especially as we head in to this next year and this next election cycle.
• 39:25
  Because unfortunately, I think it's gonna get rough. And one of the ways I know they're gonna target us is through our food supply. You can see all the food factories burned down. You can see the warnings of coming famines and food shortages and everything like that. And food is one of the number one ways totalitarian regimes have always used to control the populations destroy the food supply.
• 39:45
  So if you don't have at least two, three, four, five, six months worth of stored food, I highly recommend you take that very seriously. Because look, as I mentioned, if you're the person that's watching this, you're the person that carries the burden of making sure your family is prepared. I would recommend at least six months, if not a year of storable food. So if things go haywire, whether it's grid down or terrorist attack from what's coming across the border, that your family can safely stay in place and you can feed your family. So folks today, go to heavensharvest.com and make sure you get your storeable food that'll last for up to twenty five years.
• 40:20
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• 40:59
  Right? And you can do photorealistic renderings of of human beings. You could do people in compromising, you know, kind of pictures that look real, like you and you can even make them. You could say do it like it was take a photograph taken in 1995. So it's like an aged looking photograph.
• 41:17
  Like the the ability this AI has is just insane, but it makes me think, and this is what's really frightening about what you're bringing up. And I've thought about this, but now I can see it through the whole new light is you can see how they're they're they've worked on digitizing everything. Right? So if if, you know, we if we go if you go to your home, it's like no longer do you see this entire set of DVDs. Now you've got a little Apple TV or a Roku device or Spotify.
• 41:48
  Like, my wife and I, we recently or the past couple of years, so we bought a record player. And so now what we're doing is we're buying vinyl records for everything we wanna listen to. So I go home, I'll pick out a classical record. I'll drop it on there, and that's what we'll listen to. We just, you know, got our Bing Crosby Christmas record we're playing now.
• 42:05
  So we're kind of moving away from that. But I think the danger of that is that once we're in a society where they can move everyone into this digital only society, not only can they censor things, but they can rewrite things. But I wonder, like, they could even change videos. Right? Because they could use AI to say, go remove some messaging subtly, you know, to subtly modify It's A Wonderful Life, for instance.
• 42:35
  And you watch it and you're like, oh, that seems a little different than what I thought it was. But then eventually, it's like, oh, it must be Mandela effect. Right? No, it's actually that they're rewriting our past. And so that's an insane idea as it relates to 1984.
• 42:49
  Right? Right? It was that where the quote came out is like, those who control the present control the past, those who control the past control the future. Right? And so the people that are controlling our present that are controlling the past, and using AI as a tool for that.
• 43:04
  I mean, I see that as like AI spelling the end of free will and the end of the human civilization as I know if that gets put into place.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And that's that's what's getting put into place. Right? And, you know, you asked the question of what's gonna happen next. Well, you know, we've laid down the infrastructure.
• 43:21
  Like, you know, they're they're gonna manipulate our perceptions of reality, which they've been doing for a very long time. Now it's now it's gonna be on a scale we've never seen before. And the issue is what do you do with the middle class? What do you do with, you know, the meaningful labor? All of these are our entire cultural toolkit is predicated on the presumption that human labor has value.
• 43:46
  And when that goes to zero, all the presumptions that tie our entire cultural toolkit together become invalidated. And so how do you transition everyone? Well, you know, there's there's one way, which is that you just let the corporations just take control and do whatever they're gonna do and, you know, the courts don't stop them because they're rigged, which is what's happening right now. Like, there was a whole bunch of artists that sued. The judge was like, it doesn't matter if they data mined all your data.
• 44:14
  It's novel stuff, and you don't get the rights. Even though it was wholesale appropriation of their life's work to for their benefit, for another corporation's benefit, the judge is like, no. You don't have a claim or you've got a reduced claim. That's also happening in Japan, by the way. There was another court case where everyone's losing out big because they're saying, yeah.
• 44:34
  We the AI can just appropriate all your work and remix it. And so there there needs to be something that's gonna happen because if they don't defocus our minds to something else, then people are gonna complain to the government that there is a group of conspiratorial insiders that are rigging the entire thing to appropriate all of our work and put us into, you know, fifteen minute prison cities, which is what's gonna happen. Right? And so my my belief is that they're going to cover this up in the way that they've covered this up in the past, which is let's have a big giant war. Everyone's gonna be con you know, concerned about the war, the war, the war, the war.
• 45:19
  We gotta fight. We gotta volunteer for the military because that's a patriotic thing to do. And meanwhile, we're gonna be, not paying attention to all of the changes, all the real changes that are gonna be coming to our society. And what's really kinda scary about this is that, you know, you mix in the depopulation agenda because, like, why do we need 8,000,000,000 people? Like, we we know why there's a bunch of people that were needed in the past because they were useful for the empire, because they needed that human labor to expand their territory.
• 45:48
  But now, you know, if you if you have one society that's got a billion people and you got another society that's got a hundred million, but they've got, you know, the capability of producing 10 times more killbot drones, which one is actually more powerful? The one with the high population or the one that can make all the kill drones? Right? Well, obviously, it's the one with the kill drones. And so, these elites don't believe that we're gonna have any value much longer.
• 46:19
  And so what do you do when you know, if you've got cattle and your cattle's not gonna have any value because they're sick, what do you do? You just kill all the cattle. And I've been trying to be an optimist and say, well, this probably isn't gonna happen and look for all the ways why I should be optimistic. And every time I'm optimistic, I'm wrong in my predictions. It's only by being a doomer that I've been able to see all these things progress out.
• 46:45
  And so I literally think that they're gonna look at this war not only to transform our our society, but they're also gonna use it as a way of lowering the population. Right? Like, one of the common topics right now is this idea of like, oh, they're gonna have a draft. You know, it looks like we're gonna have to have a draft here pretty soon. That women are gonna be forced to also register for selective service.
• 47:09
  Like, it it almost got signed into law, by the way. Both houses agreed to it in an appropriations bill a couple years ago, and then it went to Biden's desk, and then he just didn't sign it. Right? All this media talk, all these papers, oh, it's going, it's going, it's a good idea. Then it just didn't get signed and we all forgot about it.
• 47:26
  But the next time that comes in, it's going to be made law. And I want to show you a video here of how deadly these drones are going to be. Right? They're zero to 60. Forget a Tesla with its zero to 60 in four seconds.
• 47:43
  These drones go zero to 200 kilometers a second in one second. They literally speed up to 200 kilometers per second. And I'm looking at these things, and it's like, we we definitely don't need to have any more war being fought by human beings. We can just the future war should be fought with these kill drones, and whoever has the most kill drones and highest manufacturing base, they're the ones that are gonna win. But apparently, we're still believing or the majority of the population still believes that you need human soldiers in order to win.
• 48:12
  So let's just take a look at this. I don't know if you're gonna get sound, but, hopefully, we're able gonna be able to do it. Okay. Ready? Let's turn this up.
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah. That is like,
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: that
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: stopped you a dick. Drop the bomb.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: One more time. One more time. Boom. That that that yeah. What are we gonna do with that?
• 48:42
  How how you expect us to go into battle against those things? It's gonna be a human slaughter. Right? But that's the power of propaganda because they will make you believe in absurdities, and people are I believe that once we once this World War three totally kicks off, people are gonna be falling over themselves to sign up for the military because that's gonna be the patriotic thing. You know?
• 49:06
  It's like when I look back, like, why did all these people go and die in the Vietnam War? And it turns out that if parents didn't encourage their kids to go to war and their kids didn't sign up, they would be excluded from the social circles of their workplace. It was a very popular thing. You send your kids to die in war, and if you don't, you're a traitor to your own country, and everyone looks down. I was like, what?
• 49:29
  Really? What was going on. And then I got a little bit older, and I was like, oh, well, that's that's of course, that's how it's played out. That's how you get everyone to sacrifice their sons and daughters is that you threaten them with social exclusion. It turns out that social exclusion is a worse pain than sending your own children to die in a war in a ridiculous war.
• 49:51
  And so, you know, have we learned anything from the last, you know, five years that all the media has been proven to be fake? It turns out well, at least in San Francisco, it looks like everyone's still absolutely thoroughly brainwashed. And so, what's and what's really scary is that people, even on the right, seem to latch on to the groupthink itself, and they don't like, they think that they're applying critical thinking, but they're only applying critical thinking to the opposite side. They don't apply it to their own side. And so what's really scary is if we get into this World War three scenario, and both the left and the right and the algorithms all agree that the good thing to do is to send everyone to war, you better believe it.
• 50:33
  People are gonna be going to war. They're gonna be going to this battlefield. They're gonna get absolutely slaughtered by these drones that are moving 200 kilometers per hour.
• 50:46
  Seth Holehouse: It's crazy. Are you familiar with the book, Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars?
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Totally.
• 50:52
  Seth Holehouse: So I wanna pull up there's a whole section in this book, and and you can find the PDF online for free, Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars, where they specifically talk about the role of the draft. And this book this this was 1958. Right? And this is what I believe is to be one of the manuals written to to collapse America for the new world order. So I'm gonna read through this real quickly because this is this is crazy.
• 51:15
  This is gonna keep in '58. It says the draft is a military service. It says, Few efforts of human behavior modification are more remarkable or more effective than that of the socio military institution known as the draft. A primary purpose of a draft or other such institution is to instill by intimidation in the young males of a society the uncritical conviction that the government is omnipotent. He is soon taught that a prayer is slow to reverse what a bullet can do in an instant.
• 51:44
  Thus a man trained in a religious environment for eighteen years of his life can, by this instrument of the government be broken down, be purged of his fantasies and delusions in a matter of mere months. Once that conviction is instilled, all else becomes easy to instill. Even more interesting is the process by which a young man's parents who purportedly love him can be induced to send him off to war to his death. Although the scope of this work will not allow this matter to be expanded in full detail, nevertheless, a course overview will be possible and conservative to reveal those factors which must be included in some numerical form in a computer analysis of social and war systems. So it gets into that, but it's you can see it's like they're talking about this as a psychological operation, the role of a draft as a psychological operation.
• 52:37
  It's just it's it's incredible. I mean, it's it's it's all here.
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: Right. Right then, they're admitting it. And they're admitting it in a in a degree of detail when you see it. You're like, wow. It's like, puts all the pieces together.
• 52:52
  Right? It's like, well, why was why do we have all these insane rules of engagement within Vietnam? Right? And to my surprise, it turns out that we had won the Vietnam War in, like, the first, you know, few months that we were fighting it. And then they went all the way to the last stronghold, and then the UN and the Democrats said, no.
• 53:13
  We need to, like, super peace. And then they slowed it down, and they put all these rules of engagement. Then they had a leftist president come in, and then we basically lost the entire war through all these insane rules. And people are like, well, why do we do all these insane rules? It just must be that that's a fallacy of the human, you know, thought process.
• 53:32
  And no. No. It it turned out that the entire war was literally a psychological operation, And then we basically handed off Vietnam to China and allowed them to win and take over and turn into a communist country. Right? Which and it's funny because we got everyone to fight because we were trying to stop communism.
• 53:53
  Right? And the leftist that protested it, you better believe that all those leftists with their vulnerability to collective thought were all 100% on board with that with that war. And then all of a sudden, the media changes, and now they're against war. And they believe that they've always been against war, and they've started hitting the soldiers that were drafted into this war where they were slaughtered. So you know?
• 54:19
  And nothing's changed. Like, we're still except for a few intellects out there that are dissidents, it seems that a large cross section of, you know, society is still gonna be on board with this, especially when you start factoring into, you know, religious leaders that will be for this war, and they start thinking that this is gonna be a holy war, which happens pretty much with every war that we we fight, that there's a degree of religious fanaticism that, plays really well with that. And so I think that that's where we're gonna be headed. Right? And that's gonna be where the big social changes.
• 54:56
  And and, yes, there's gonna be CDC. Yes. There's gonna be a whole bunch of new world order stuff that they're talking about. Everyone's really concerned right now. How do we stop this, you know, financial decentralized currency or actually, I'm sorry.
• 55:08
  It's it is a centralized currency. You don't. You don't fight it. It's coming on. That's the whole reason why they created Bitcoin.
• 55:15
  Right? This whole narrative. Like, I remember back in 02/2012, I was hearing about it was, like, four years after Bitcoin launched. Right? Because I think it was, like, 02/2007, '2 thousand '8 when it launched because of the financial crisis.
• 55:26
  And they're like, oh, this financial crisis we need to have we need to overthrow the central banks with this decentralized coin. And everyone was telling me that this was going to defeat the central banks. And I was like, what are you talking about? The only thing that's gonna separate us from the central banks is military force at this point. It's not gonna be like an idea.
• 55:45
  It's like, oh, we have a better idea of doing money. We're gonna overthrow the central banks. Right? Now what do we look at it? You know, what do we see?
• 55:51
  We see that, you know, we we still can't buy a Big Mac with a Bitcoin. Right? Like, there are some ATMs out there kind of, but all the promises that they said hasn't really panned out. And now the central banks just, you know, looked at the winners of these digital coins and they said, Okay, we're going to choose that for our CDBC, whether that's XRP or some Ethereum thing. What it was, it was a big giant experiment for what the central bank digital coin should look like.
• 56:20
  Right? Like, here's the dilemma of a central planner is what if they get the planning wrong? Right? And so, well, how do they get the planning right? Well, they let all of us coin holders actually start the the movement, the momentum, try out all these little experiments on our own, and then they just implode the whole system with FTX or whatever.
• 56:40
  And then it's like, oh, it turns out it was a scam all along. We need the government to come in and protect us from all these, like, coin scammers. Right? And, you know, and so all these things, you know, Bitcoin, war, like like like, our life is fundamentally about to change. And all these things that have happened in the past have been leading up to the social cataclysm that they're going to force on us, and they have to do that.
• 57:06
  Because if they don't do that that cataclysm, then what they're gonna get is they're gonna get people protesting the government because they're gonna be like, why is the government acting this in in this insane way? You know, clearly and it's just gonna be hilarious because the government's gonna come out and try to keep the democracy going under this prospect, and they're gonna be like, everyone agrees that, you know, we should be disemployed and moved into fifteen minute cities. And people are gonna wake up and like, this is complete horseshit. Right? Because the thing is that leftists won't wake up until the pain comes to them.
• 57:37
  This was exposed by Yuri Besmanov. And he said that people would be talking about the benefits of Marxism on the way to the concentration camp. And then as soon as that military boot kicked him in the ass, all of a sudden, they would, like, wake up and see the world for the way that that was. And so the the issue here is that if we start seeing the legitimate pain of mass structural disemployment, we're gonna revolt. And so what we need to have is we need to create this object of anxiety so that all the structural change that's gonna come is gonna seem like it's legitimate and a legitimate reaction to this object of anxiety that's gonna be formed by this deep state in order to control us.
• 58:26
  Seth Holehouse: So there's there's one final, you know, question or point I wanted to touch on with this is that you're looking ahead to the election next year and seeing like, you you were obviously, you know, neck deep in Big Tex role in the election in 2020. And and how much whether it's the Hunter Biden laptop or or people even being kicked off of Twitter or Facebook or the algorithms being being manipulated to to favor, you know, Joe Biden or to hide stories of Donald Trump or whatever it was. So I I wanna see just what your thoughts are about now where you have where we have Twitter, where as we talked about, you can talk about just about anything on Twitter. Right? Wouldn't that mean it will come back to haunt us.
• 59:11
  But, you know, people are having you're not seeing very often at least people's accounts getting canceled. Like, is still happening, of course. But as we head into 2024, and especially close to the election where, again, going back to where things were heading in the twenty twenty election, if social media or even if one of the major social media at that time, or even if Rumble was where it's at, you know, today at that time, if videos about election fraud, exposed election fraud, videos about, you know, the corruption, if the story of Hunter Biden's laptop, if those things could have gone viral in the way that they could supposedly go viral now on Twitter, that would have changed the course of the election. I think it would have pushed it further to a point, you know, maybe beyond their control of manipulation through the voting machines and everything. So as we head into 2024, do you do you think that Twitter will still remain this free speech platform even as we're entering into an election, which is the most threatening thing to the deep state would be in many ways, Trump getting back in as much as they hate see how much they hate him.
• 1:00:23
  So what do you think the role of Twitter will be for that? And do you think that there's now I guess, especially with the opening up of Twitter, there's been so much information coming out that it's actually that it's breaking or loosening the control that the deep state has on the on the narrative?
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: Short answer is no. I think that one of the the things that are coming out right now is that, hey. You can still speak, but you're not gonna have reach. Right? Like, the freedom of speech, not the freedom of reach.
• 1:00:55
  Right? And I think that that is essentially what Twitter's doing right now. They're they are controlling the algos so that you can say what you want and then just not get any reach on that. You know, there's still this problem about people texting, you know, links to stuff that's sort of like the the organic decentralized, you know, showing of information. My predictions on this is that, and I'm going to be wrong, is that they're gonna do a rug pull event where the left gets absolutely demolished.
• 1:01:26
  And one of the reasons why I believe this is because, you know, there's this whole thing of, oh, the the it was the cleanest election ever. Right? And everyone's like, oh, the deep state's against Donald Trump, and it was rigged from the start. I believe that what's gonna happen, you know, from the signs that I'm seeing, I think that there's gonna be a rug pull and the rigging is gonna go in the opposite direction if they need if they need it to go that way. I I mean, I think they're still gonna rig it, but I think that I think the two thousand sixteen election was rigged for Trump.
• 1:02:00
  Like, the inside baseball that I heard from Mark Vegas, who is, in Chicago, One of the Chicago Politicians. He also does a radio show. He said that it was a complete surprise that Trump won the election. In fact, he said that Melania had actually planned for a trip the Tuesday for the inauguration. Right?
• 1:02:20
  Because she thought that there was no chance in hell that Trump was gonna get elected so that she had actually planned a a getaway vacation, and she had to cancel it to you know, because it turned out by surprise that Trump won. So I think the two thousand sixteen election was rigged to bring Trump in. He was used as an object of anxiety to put in this, wartime infrastructure that's now in place. And now everyone's you know, all the left is saying, oh, the elections can't possibly be rigged, blah blah blah. And I think what's gonna happen is that they're gonna rig it the other way, and the left is gonna turn is gonna because they're collectivist and they go along with the mob, their narrative going into 2025 is that, yes, elections are rigged, and it was rigged to get a puppet, Donald Trump, to take over the government in order to have a fascist takeover of the government.
• 1:03:13
  That that's my prediction for 02/2025. And I'm happy to be wrong about that, but that's sort of my pet prediction on what's going to happen. And I and I do think that, like, you know, they've got this element of, like, oh, Trump's a fascist. I do think that there could be an ushering in of socialism that comes in because socialism is a form of taking control of the government. And so I I have to wonder whether that that repeated uttering of Trump's a fascist is actually gonna play into part of their plot line going into the future.
• 1:03:50
  And I think that what's gonna be really interesting is that the people on the right, they're like, oh, well, Trump dodged all the deep state wars that he was tried to be led into. Like, they tried to get him into Iran. They tried to get him into North Korea. So right now, we've got this expectation in our heads that Trump equals peace, which will be a really big surprise if they if they, you know, they rig the election the other way. They get Trump in there, and then, basically, he opens the doors for a flood of neocon, you know, dual citizenship staffers that then, you know, complete the process of getting us into World War three.
• 1:04:25
  Because Trump is you know, he is very aggressive. Right? And if anybody I don't think any of us doubts that if there was an attack on The United States that Trump would be the guy that would hold back. Right? Like, he would unleash the forces of the military.
• 1:04:40
  In fact, we held that as a piece of pride because, like, no one would dare attack attack The United States because of everything that would happen. What happens if Trump comes in during a war period and we have a devastating false flag attack on The United States, which the administration will won't acknowledge as a false flag? Well, you're basically gonna have, you know, the this guy that's gonna go hard in war and bring us completely into this World War three setting where it's gonna be The United States against Russia. It's gonna be against the whole Middle East and the fractured Arab nations. And then finally, it's gonna be against China.
• 1:05:20
  And the problem is is that even though, you know, it's debatable whether we even have the most advanced weapons, I know it's funny. People think that, you know, we're powerful and undefeatable. It turns out that Russia's got a larger navy than we do. And I I don't even care about the navy because of the drone stuff. It's it's the drones which are the future of war and these hypersonic missiles that you can't can't even shoot down because they're traveling at Mach 10.
• 1:05:43
  Right? Like like like, these these hypersonic missiles are so powerful that you don't even need to put an explosive payload on. It's just the kinetic energy of these things flying at Mach 10, which will blow a hole through a ship and sink it. Right? So, like, all of our aircraft carriers right now, I assume, are, obsolete hunks of junk and concrete sitting in the ocean, waiting waiting to be sacrificed in a false flag attack as a devastating attack, which gets us into war and also, allows the, the controllers to jettison all of this worthless military hardware without having to go through these apex capitalists that are gonna you know, that are embedded in our regulatory system, they're gonna block it.
• 1:06:22
  It's like, no. We need to keep this grift going. Right? Like, sorry. All the aircraft carriers are now gone.
• 1:06:27
  Right? And so when it comes to fighting a war, it's not actually about how many weapons that you have or even how good your military equipment is. Like, you know, we won World War two, and The United States had crap military equipment. A lot of people don't know this. They think that, oh, nothing was better than The United States.
• 1:06:46
  No. Our steel industry was by far better than anyone else's. And so what we would do is we would crank out so many war machines with our manufacturing base that didn't matter whether our tanks lost four to one to the German tanks. We had eight times as many. And so, you know, over time, we would just we would eat, we would chew up the military.
• 1:07:10
  Germany couldn't rearm, but we could. And so it's not and and if we look at, you know, who is the biggest manufacturer in the world, it's China. They produce four times more steel than we do. You know? They produce more lead than we do.
• 1:07:26
  Like, if we get into war with China and we're buying our raw materials from China, like, that's kind of a problem. Right? Like, in order for us to fight this World War three, we need to have a domestic manufacturing base that's able to quickly turn raw earth, crunch it up into bullets, and then fire it at the enemy or turn into drones, whatever. And if we don't have that, it doesn't matter how advanced our weaponry is. You know, China's gonna be able to win in the long run.
• 1:07:56
  And this whole thing, if we got enough nukes to blow up the world, not really. Like, that's kind of a psyop. Like, yeah, it does a lot of destruction. It will kill a lot of people in the cities. That's for dang sure.
• 1:08:05
  Like, we could obliterate most of the population. But if you think that nukes can only destroy can destroy the world, then you basically think that the world only consists of the places where humans live in cities. Right? Because you're not gonna blow up, you know, hundreds of thousands of, you know, square kilometers, you know, you can't you can't wipe out all of American forests. Right?
• 1:08:30
  And so as long as the majority of the planet is able to, you know, not get nuked, which is what would happen, these people can still fight. And so I think that, really, it's gonna come down to who's got the most manufacturing capability. Right now, that's China. If China teams teams up with Russia and Iran, which is what we're saying that they're doing since the new axis of evil, game over. Game over.
• 1:08:59
  The United States is absolutely done for in a wartime scenario like this. And it seems that the Controllogarcs that are running our system right now are doing as much as they can to bring us exactly into that situation.
• 1:09:14
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. I'm seeing the same thing. Well, it's I appreciate the fact that you're recognizing, you're looking at the landscape of what's happening right now, and also the recent, you know, psyops and say, okay, it's so multi layered, but you're using that same logic and that same framework to look into the future. You're not looking into the future with the simplistic view of like the good guys and the bad guys and you're well, there's gonna be multiple layers of of new psychological operations with this this endgame of World War three. Because, you know, if I think about Trump, it's like if he would have been the president during 09/11, let's just say, hypothetically, you know, he was president at that time and say the CIA without him knowing, you know, carried out that act, you know, nine eleven, which could potentially have been done.
• 1:09:59
  You know, there there's rogue agencies. There's elements within these agencies. You know, his his reaction would have been to, like, just blow something up. Like, that's how that's how he was. It was very much so, you know, to, you know, again, you know, kind of putting forward the the pride of the the strong military of America.
• 1:10:19
  So I could see, yeah, like, he could be used even if he has good intentions, like, that he could be used to lead us into war because in his own mind, it might be the best thing to do to protect the American people. So anyway, Zach, think we've we've kind of we've hit our time. Where can people follow you? Follow what you're doing?
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Check me out. Twitter.com/perpetualmaniac. If you guys are looking for uncensored collection of videos, check out my site blast.video. You'll find Seth and all of your favorite commentators on there.
• 1:10:56
  If you want more information about my whistleblowing and the disclosure of 950 pages of the documents that I dropped, check out my website, zachvoorhees.com.
• 1:11:10
  Seth Holehouse: So there's your blast.video, which I I really encourage people to check that out. And then also, I'll I'll pull up your then you say zachvoorhees.com. So
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Zachvoorhees.com. And you get to see how the sausage is made.
• 1:11:26
  Seth Holehouse: Oh, there you go. Well, Zach, it's it's always fun talking to you. It's it's good to just and just to look at all this information with through these kinds of eyes. So anyway, I'm sure we're gonna be doing a lot more of these shows as we're entering into the psychological operation known as the twenty twenty four election in terms of everything surrounding that. Mean, it's going to be absolutely insane.
• 1:11:51
  So we're gonna need something deciphering that. So again, thank you for being here. Thank you for being a voice in this space. It's important. Do you have any final words before we sign off?
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You know what? Like, my advice is we're doomscrolling a lot. Find a good techno artist on there and try replacing some of your doom scrolling with listening to music. You will not believe how much better your mood is when you do
• 1:12:23
  Seth Holehouse: that. Or go buy an old school record player and go buy Yeah. A bunch of old classical music, which the records are like $2. You can get like a a seven vinyl Beethoven set for $8 on some of these websites.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 1:12:40
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. Yeah. I I can send you out when we hop on go offline. I found this website that's I forget I forget the name of right now, but it where you can go and basically, it's almost like a like a Etsy for records and music. And I think I spent a hundred and $40 and bought, like, 40 different records, like old classical, you know, Vivaldi and Mozart and, you know, beautiful harp and and everything.
• 1:13:04
  These, you know, you go home, turn on the electronics off and just put it in the record player. You hear that nice kind of crackling of the record going around, and it's it's it's just wonderful.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's wonderful. Right? With some candlelight. Right?
• 1:13:18
  Yep. Vasa Vasa Pinon and some steak. Sounds like
• 1:13:23
  Seth Holehouse: There you go. There you go. Well, thank you, Zach. It's good having you on.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: Likewise. Till next time.
• 1:13:29
  Seth Holehouse: Thank you.