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One Piece, 570 & 571 WANNABE · Spoil Me! One Piece

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  Speaker 1: This is an Unspoiled Network podcast. This is spoil Me,
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  Speaker 1: covering one piece episodes five seventy and five seventy one,
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  Speaker 1: The Straw Hats Stunned, the New Fleet, Admiral of the Navy,
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  Speaker 1: and she Loves Sweets, Big Mama of the Four Emperors.
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  Speaker 1: In these episodes, well, I finally get to see Hordy
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  Speaker 1: after the drug has worn off. It was worth the
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  Speaker 1: price of admission, I'll say that. And also we have
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  Speaker 1: some big shakeups going on in the power structure here
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  Speaker 1: in this universe. Welcome to spoil Me. Welcome to the show. Everyone.
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  Speaker 2: I am Natasha and I'm Floria and hello.
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  Speaker 1: Yay, welcome Florian. All right, you got to tell me
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  Speaker 1: obligatory first question, why did you choose these episodes for
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  Speaker 1: a wanna be?
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  Speaker 2: It's just well check in kind of sorts, you know,
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  Speaker 2: because like the art is pretty much over, and also
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  Speaker 2: like I have some I have some faults, I have
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  Speaker 2: some takes.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, you told me about this in the chat last time.
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  Speaker 1: You hinted at this, So do you want to frontload
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  Speaker 1: that and just talk about what you were referencing?
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  Speaker 2: Sure, it is just disclaimer. It's a talk about Grace
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  Speaker 2: and I I'm a white dude, so I'm not claiming
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  Speaker 2: to know anything and everything, and this is just like
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. My interpretation of I don't know what
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  Speaker 2: happened here, like in this story are so I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: like like you said, for example, that the townsfolk, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know that they're not like consistent in a way,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like it.
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  Speaker 1: Or they're too consistent. We just get the same thing
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  Speaker 1: over and over.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, and it is I don't I feel like
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  Speaker 2: this all comes kind of down to Oda, sadly. And
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  Speaker 2: what I mean by dad is just basically I did
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  Speaker 2: actually a little research in preparation and a real meaning
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  Speaker 2: really just little I went and looked at how racism
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  Speaker 2: is kind of handled in Japan but well handled or
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  Speaker 2: like you know, what is the state there, And when
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  Speaker 2: I found out it is kind of as it is
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  Speaker 2: everywhere it is around, but apparently I mean Japan, it
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  Speaker 2: is more like the microaggressions are like higher, apparently, and
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  Speaker 2: it is like, yeah, less talked about and I feel
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  Speaker 2: like and I feel like in this just the whole
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  Speaker 2: story arc here Uda wanted to delve into the topic
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  Speaker 2: of racism, which he has before, Like we had the
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  Speaker 2: fishermen before and saw how they were oppressed, Like this
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  Speaker 2: is not news. And Uda actually likes to put social
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  Speaker 2: qualls into his story because one time, in one one
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  Speaker 2: time we had like where Chopper is from, and the
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  Speaker 2: island had like no doctors and only like the king
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  Speaker 2: had only doctors. Then he wanted high prices. So it
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  Speaker 2: is like pretty much a commentary or right right, the
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  Speaker 2: healthcare system, you know, and yeah, would I like to
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  Speaker 2: do that, But I feel like in this case he
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  Speaker 2: kind of I don't know why, but he fumbled.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. This is something that Rashaan has talked about a
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  Speaker 1: lot too, is like the Asian community and they're like weird.
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  Speaker 1: They want to be a part of like the banner
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  Speaker 1: of people of color, but not if it includes black people,
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  Speaker 1: Like that's a separate thing a lot of the time,
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  Speaker 1: and there is just a lot of racism that comes
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  Speaker 1: at black people from the Asian community. And I honestly
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  Speaker 1: I have only seen like a little bit of any
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  Speaker 1: examples of that. But I'm like, what I have seen
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  Speaker 1: has been pretty egregious. So I was like, not, once
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  Speaker 1: I stopped and thought about that with this, it made
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  Speaker 1: some sense, but continue because I don't think you were done.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, just by the way, guys, As I said, I
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  Speaker 2: did some research. I watched like YouTube videos where people
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  Speaker 2: were interviewed, and I want to say there were also
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  Speaker 2: people in their like of people of color living in
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  Speaker 2: Japan who said they did not really experience racism. So
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  Speaker 2: it's just a disclaimer that not everybody is the same
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  Speaker 2: or has the same Yeah. But yeah, I feel like
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  Speaker 2: just Oda wanted to include this, and I mean we
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  Speaker 2: can talk about it in a way like is it
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  Speaker 2: a good idea that an offer tries to include this
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  Speaker 2: in a story, you know, like the topic of racism.
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  Speaker 2: I personally feel like it. Yeah. You I like the
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  Speaker 2: more represent you know, like or like eyes on a topic.
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  Speaker 2: But he just did not really do the best and
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  Speaker 2: we can just guess why that is. You know, I'm
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  Speaker 2: not saying it is like completely awful, but one thing
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  Speaker 2: I would say is like he didn't want the Strides
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  Speaker 2: to be white knights. You know, he did actually not
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  Speaker 2: want them to be the ones that come in and
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  Speaker 2: save these oppressed people because they need to be saved.
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  Speaker 2: That was like the whole argument that Jimbey had with
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  Speaker 2: Lufy when they were back in the sea forest, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like like Jimbey was like, you cannot just march in
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  Speaker 2: there and defeat Hody, because then it would be just
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  Speaker 2: another human killing another fashion man, you know. Yeah, And
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  Speaker 2: the way other works it around is basically that they
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  Speaker 2: came up with the idea and that Loupy needs to
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  Speaker 2: be like basically the hero in the sense that the
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  Speaker 2: people call for him, and that's kind of why we
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  Speaker 2: had this whole set up, because he's not, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: at least in my mind. The straw Heads did actually
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  Speaker 2: not play the White Knights in this story. Really. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I agree with you, agree with that adocally good, But
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  Speaker 2: I just feel like there is some steps taken the
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  Speaker 2: show that Odor does understand like parts of of the racism,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, just like the systematic or like you know,
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  Speaker 2: the whole beast, But I don't feel like he's equipped
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  Speaker 2: to like truly fully think of every aspect.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, finish, finish.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm just talking along. But the last thing
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  Speaker 2: I want to make is just and the Fishermen do
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  Speaker 2: not give Lufy his blood, which is kind of weird
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  Speaker 2: because he saved them all. But I think again that
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  Speaker 2: this order kind of being like I cannot let this
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  Speaker 2: story end in a way where it's like they punk
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  Speaker 2: the bad guy and racism is over, you know, like
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  Speaker 2: I feel like he cannot do that, but it does
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  Speaker 2: not feel satisfying to watch, you know. So yeah, so
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  Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of problems in this come
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  Speaker 2: from from yeah other's handling of whole racism and plot
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  Speaker 2: I call it, but I don't say here. There's definitely
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  Speaker 2: some shining moments in there, but they are also like
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  Speaker 2: things where I can at least see that he does
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  Speaker 2: not himself really know like the answer or even the
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  Speaker 2: question or like what what do? So it kind of
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  Speaker 2: feels it feels distonjointed in some places. So for me,
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  Speaker 2: this is a good idea. But executionerism.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, It's kind of funny because I remember that when
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  Speaker 1: we started this arc, you told me that there were
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people out there who felt like this
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  Speaker 1: had too much race talk in it, like the storyline,
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  Speaker 1: And at the time I was sort of like, oh god,
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  Speaker 1: people whining about the woke mind virus blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 1: And now that I'm on the other side of it,
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  Speaker 1: I see why people might have had more of an
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  Speaker 1: issue with it, just because it doesn't feel like it
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  Speaker 1: was handled that well, The question for me about like
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  Speaker 1: whether or not somebody who isn't themselves of an oppressed group,
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  Speaker 1: whether they should depict the struggles of that group in
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  Speaker 1: their fiction always comes down to you feel free to
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  Speaker 1: write whatever you want. You really should take responsibility for
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  Speaker 1: whether you have engaged anyone of that community with your
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  Speaker 1: with your creation before you put it out there to
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  Speaker 1: the world. If you're going to be having a storyline
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  Speaker 1: that deals a lot in racism, do you have any
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  Speaker 1: Black people like editing this with you in the writer's
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  Speaker 1: room with you, you know? And that's always for me
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  Speaker 1: something that you can really tell a lot of the
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  Speaker 1: time whether or not there was anybody of the community
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  Speaker 1: in the room and whether they felt for you to
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  Speaker 1: be like, that's not the vibe. Actually, no, don't do that,
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  Speaker 1: you know. And I fully agree with the sentiment of like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to end this and act like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Lufy saved them and now racism is over. It's the
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  Speaker 1: combo of not only that nobody would donate blood, but
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  Speaker 1: then everybody is cheering for Jimbei when he does it.
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  Speaker 1: It feels much more like everybody should be sort of
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  Speaker 1: like like trepidacious watching him do this and kind of like, well,
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  Speaker 1: maybe this is okay, And after they watch him do it,
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  Speaker 1: perhaps one or two people are like, you know what,
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  Speaker 1: if you need more or if any of you need blood,
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  Speaker 1: I am willing to donate after all, Like if that
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  Speaker 1: just turned a corner with a couple people, But it
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  Speaker 1: was just very strange that nobody would donate and then
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  Speaker 1: Jimba steps up and everyone behaves as if he's a hero,
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  Speaker 1: and that just didn't go together to me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like that the crowd, especially in the
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  Speaker 2: last part of this art, oftentimes is just like one
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  Speaker 2: entity basically, you know, like they have the same opinion,
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  Speaker 2: you know, except for children, which is again I'm not
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  Speaker 2: sure what Dat wanted to bring something in basically of
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  Speaker 2: like the next generation and like how we have to
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  Speaker 2: raise them right, which of course I agree with, but
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  Speaker 2: at the same time it is a little heavy hand.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I did like with the kids though, that they
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  Speaker 1: like whenever somebody was like, oh I knew the whole time,
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  Speaker 1: the kids being like the fuck you knew the whole shit?
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  Speaker 1: The hell up? That was kind of funny because kids
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  Speaker 1: are very good at just being like, why are you
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  Speaker 1: saying a thing that didn't happen. I don't get it.
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  Speaker 1: That's not what happened. Why would you say that? And
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  Speaker 1: you know, as adults were like, no, we know why
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  Speaker 1: they're lying, but kids just they haven't gotten there yet,
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  Speaker 1: so they're just like, you must be remembering wrong. Allow
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  Speaker 1: me to clear it up for you. That's not what
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  Speaker 1: it was. Is there anything else about this? Uh?
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  Speaker 2: Like the past episodes, I don't think so. I feel like,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we were pretty much start where the last
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  Speaker 2: one stopped. So I feel like the ghost hand in
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  Speaker 2: hand with the talk between Niptune. No, not Niptun. No,
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  Speaker 2: he's King Neptune, right, And Poseidon is the weapon?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, correct?
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  Speaker 2: No, I confuse myself with those two.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes it is a little bit odd. It's also kind
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  Speaker 1: of weird because like, and this again may be a
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  Speaker 1: translation thing, but when he's talking to Miko Robin and
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  Speaker 1: he tells her the weapons were named after gods, and
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  Speaker 1: he says like Urinus and Jupiter or something, and then Poseidon,
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  Speaker 1: which he is like, Neptune is the planet that is
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  Speaker 1: named after a god, so they should have named him
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  Speaker 1: Poseidon and had the weapon be named Neptune in order
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  Speaker 1: for it to go along with the theme for because
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  Speaker 1: it seems like they're all planet names that he was saying.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I feel like I'm going to mess those
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  Speaker 1: names up just to warn you guys.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah it's fine. Yeah, but still again, I just really
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  Speaker 2: that did last time in the chat. I like the
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  Speaker 2: idea of it being living being you know, mm hm,
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  Speaker 2: that's just so much fun in my opinion.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I really hope that she like can just
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  Speaker 1: not like that, she can serve a function and then
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  Speaker 1: it'll be over and she doesn't have to be a
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  Speaker 1: weapon anymore. Like that she can retire, because just living
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  Speaker 1: like that forever sounds like a real trag that is
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  Speaker 1: not a life. Come on, that's not fair, you know.
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  Speaker 2: But I think she guess she will die, like I mean,
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  Speaker 2: she's not immortal. I think that's not something that they
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  Speaker 2: said at least, so.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but what if she dies because she's a weapon?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, that's the that's you know, like, that's what.
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  Speaker 1: I'm worried about, is like, is she gonna be asked
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  Speaker 1: to sacrifice herself and she just got put in this position.
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  Speaker 1: It's not like she was part of something and decided like,
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  Speaker 1: oh you know what I'm gonna put it all on
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  Speaker 1: the line. It's just now, you were born as this thing,
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  Speaker 1: so eventually you're gonna have to serve that function, which
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  Speaker 1: I like. I like this idea in terms of the plot,
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  Speaker 1: but I just feel really bad for her. It's a
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  Speaker 1: it's a bum rap, as they say, if I want
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  Speaker 1: to sound like a nineteen twenties gangster. All right, all right,
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  Speaker 1: so let's start with five seventy the straw hats stunned.
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  Speaker 1: It's also the straw hats surprised, depending on the translation.
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  Speaker 1: I am always interested in these little changes because I
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  Speaker 1: don't understand the significance. Why would you change it from
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  Speaker 1: surprised to stunned just for the drama? I guess of
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  Speaker 1: stun being more like intensive word.
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  Speaker 2: And I'll tell you it's it's mean. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: So we start off, like I said, with Nico Robin,
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  Speaker 1: like the conversation between her and King Neptune, and he
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  Speaker 1: says that like the weapons that were created, he calls
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  Speaker 1: them entities, that they were created for an unknown reason.
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  Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. I'm just gonna say, I think I'm pretty
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  Speaker 2: sure this is like a translation problem, Like, as far
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  Speaker 2: as I know, it's not actually said entities.
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  Speaker 1: It's just oh, okay, noted.
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  Speaker 2: I think he just I think he just calls them
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  Speaker 2: weapon again, like he does again use the word weapon.
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  Speaker 1: Godcha, Okay, I.
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  Speaker 2: Think because this, I'm pretty sure it's not yeah, because
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  Speaker 2: this makes it feel like everything is a what's it called, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: an entity like a.
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  Speaker 1: Being, yeah, something alive.
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  Speaker 2: And we actually know okay, little history flashbacks and oh god, Pluton.
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  Speaker 2: Pluton was the one that Crocodile was after he found
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  Speaker 2: like the pornoglyph.
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  Speaker 1: John right, mm hmm, I forgot about that, okay.
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  Speaker 2: That what was he was after on Alabaster and it
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  Speaker 2: was not there, but it was basically in the pornoglyph.
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  Speaker 2: It's at where to find it? But we don't know
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  Speaker 2: because Robin never told. That's why she got stabbed. And however,
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  Speaker 2: we know from Pluton the Frankie Frankie had like this
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  Speaker 2: called blueprints. He had the blueprints of like a weapon
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  Speaker 2: that he got from his master Tom and like the
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  Speaker 2: CP nine was after after them. Because of that, and
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  Speaker 2: as far as I remember it is that that those
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  Speaker 2: blueprints were like a counter weapon to Pluton. So that
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  Speaker 2: is also where we heard the name before. And because
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  Speaker 2: of that, I don't I'm not completely sure, but those
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  Speaker 2: two things point to me that not necessarily also another being,
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  Speaker 2: because why would you need to build something like a
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  Speaker 2: ship or something too Well, maybe maybe it is like
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  Speaker 2: a super strong battleship, maybe, but I just find that
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  Speaker 2: that it is not clearly stated in the manga, so
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  Speaker 2: we don't know yet. I mean, at this point, I am.
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  Speaker 1: Going to express my surprise. I'm sorry, I'm realizing that
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  Speaker 1: I'm making lots of faces, and that if you are
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  Speaker 1: not actually here live watching, it just sounds like I'm
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  Speaker 1: sitting here, dead silent, not responding to anything Florian is saying.
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  Speaker 1: I am listening quite intently. But it's just that this
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  Speaker 1: show really likes any time that something is brought up
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  Speaker 1: from the past. It really likes to have us see
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  Speaker 1: a flashback and remind us of a thing. And I
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  Speaker 1: am genuinely shocked, as you are pointing this out, that
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  Speaker 1: we didn't get that flashback here to remind us about
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  Speaker 1: Pluton and Crocodile and that whole thing that was so
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  Speaker 1: long ago. They can't think that everybody is going to remember, right.
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  Speaker 2: No, And that's the thing. It does not really mean
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  Speaker 2: mattering this moment, you know, like I feel like I
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  Speaker 2: mean it doesn't.
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  Speaker 1: But it's like it makes it feel a lot more
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  Speaker 1: developed a concept because it's not coming out of nowhere,
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  Speaker 1: you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it is like that is one of the
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  Speaker 2: things even though it is a super long ago, it
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  Speaker 2: is actually rewarding to watch again because it's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: because the seeds were planted early.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just really wish that, like you know that
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  Speaker 1: I am not the one that's usually going where's the flashbacks?
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  Speaker 1: But I mean that's really a perfect time for it
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  Speaker 1: to tie everything together. And I'm just shocked and I
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  Speaker 1: would never have recalled. And even if it doesn't ultimately
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  Speaker 1: matter at the moment, it makes me sort of like
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  Speaker 1: just respect this plot beat a little bit more if
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  Speaker 1: that makes it what weird? This show is weird. It's
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  Speaker 1: just strange sometimes and it does weird things that I
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  Speaker 1: don't understand, and I just sort of have to like
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  Speaker 1: keep reminding myself to accept that and move on.
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  Speaker 2: Huh. I'm looking forward to like the new season of
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: that one piece, like the live action, I mean, because
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  Speaker 2: I feel like, if you're gonna watch it, I feel
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  Speaker 2: like you will be I wonder what it will be
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  Speaker 2: like if you will be like, oh, yeah, or if
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  Speaker 2: you will be like, did that happen?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good question. Hmmm. Yeah, this show is
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: going to be uh, it's gonna be very interesting to see.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm almost like, for example, the fact that
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  Speaker 1: Garbus Lufy's grandfather is in the first season at quite
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  Speaker 1: far along in the main series, So I am just
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  Speaker 1: kind of crossing my fingers that they don't do any
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: jumping ahead in terms of the info that you get
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  Speaker 1: in the second season. I know that you guys are
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  Speaker 1: gonna watch it before me, so if that happens, you'll
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  Speaker 1: protect me from the spoilers, and I am aware, but
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  Speaker 1: it would be a real bummer if they did, and
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  Speaker 1: then I couldn't watch the second season like until I
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  Speaker 1: got to that in the main show, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I would say, like the like we are
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  Speaker 2: pass the time jump, And it would truly surprise me
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  Speaker 2: if they would put anything after the time jump in
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  Speaker 2: the in the lt Netflix series, because I don't I
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: cannot think of a single thing that would make sense
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: like other things. I can see them maybe move around,
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: but that is like such a definite point in the
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: story where's a whole lot changes, Like we hear it
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: in these episodes, you know, like things have changed. Yeah,
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: I don't see that you could be spoiled in that
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: way by the Netflix show. I think I would be
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: really surprised.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: That's a good point because of like passing this time jump.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: It really does feel like we have moved into a whole.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: It's not just an arc. It's just a completely new
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: like iteration of the show. So that probably will change. Okay,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: that makes sense, all right. So we go from their
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: conversation about the weapons to then jim May talking with
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Loofy and the rest of the straw Hats pretty much
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: about what's been going on in the world, and he
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: is asking Loofy like have you been keeping on top
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: of what's going on? And Loofy just says, what do
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: you even mean? And Jimmy's like, yeah, all right, so
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: you are like just totally uninformed. And he talks about
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: this uh a kg versus Akay you did they get
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: it right? Oh my god, I can't believe. I God,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: I'm so happy. And the fact that they like duked
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: it out for control and it's Akig who leaves right
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: because a Kayu wins, Yes, exactly, okay, so left he leaves,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: which like makes total sense to me, because his energy
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: just never really made since with the rest of the Marines,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Like his vibe always sort of felt like, I don't
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: really want to be doing this, but I have a job,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: so I guess.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, they all have like a motto, a
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: motto like and he says, lazy justice.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love that. What this is like,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: This is like the the animal crossing personality type that
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: I didn't know I needed. Oh my god, lazy justice. Okay,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: please continue with that. What are the other ones?
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Wait? I have to ud, I have to look them up.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but can you that's fine, just just well, yes, fight.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: I was really like so, So I'm gonna be honest
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: you guys about this is that we have jumped over
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: to the various players from the War of the Best
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: a few times and sort of seeing what's going on
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: with them, and then come back to our friends, and
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: it's been pretty brief little jumps, and I haven't retained
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: what happened in those scenes at all. It's like, if
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: it didn't immediately have an impact on the straw Hats,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: I completely lost track of what was happening here. So
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: I don't even recall, did we see this any of this, like,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: you know, actual confrontation, because I feel like we saw
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: the beginnings of it, but we never actually saw how
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: it went down. And I am beginning to really doubt
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: myself on that.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Well, the confrontation, I don't think we saw.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: It now, Okay, that makes me feel better.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it is. I find it like really interasting.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Nobody called this out, but they fight for the top position, right, Okay,
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: the Marine they are the Marines. I'm just going Am
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: I the only one who finds that weird that they're
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: like who should have be in charge? Well? Yeah, I'm
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: kind of like, am I the only one who finds
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: it kind of weird that, like our governing body decides
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: to handle things that way?
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: I think that I just interpret it and I don't
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: really like I didn't realize that I was doing this,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: but I think I interpreted it as more, uh, we're
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: going to let you guys like who are both vying
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: for this position do get out on your own time,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: and then what however things fall out, you guys can
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: decide how you want to handle it from there, And
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: not that it was like a sanctioned thing, that it
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: was just sort of like these two dudes being like, oh,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: really you want to go for this promotion, Well, I'll
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: just give half your face and how about that. Now,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: go for the promotion. But the way that it is
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: talked about by Gene Bank makes it feel like it's
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: more sanctioned than it should be. I guess really when
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: it comes down to you, that's the feeling for me
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: of just like.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Whoa, I don't know. Yeah, I mean at last and
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: at least in this flash flashback or like depiction, they
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: are wearing their like coats, like their uniforms, so I'm just.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Like, true, yeah, it's like you're not allowed to do
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: anything while wearing the uniform. I got fired from a
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: job one time for making a dick joke while I
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: was wearing the apron even though I was off the clock.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: So boy, you're.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Right, wearing wearing the uniform is probably like pretty significant
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: in terms of whether or not it's seen is endorsed.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Ah right, well now I don't now, I just agree
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: with you.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Sorry. And so I found I found the other twos.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: The is absolute justice yeah, and Kisaru's the light guy
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: is unclear Justice. So we had unclear unclear justice.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Yes, interesting. So we've got lazy justice, absolute justice, and
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: unclear justice.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Humming. It is at least we had because one of
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: them left. So, and do you think we will see
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: a new new face? Amrals Now?
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: I'm like, is it going to be some like if
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: it's a new face, or is it going to be
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: a face that's like new to the job but somebody
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: that we know already. I don't know what to think.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: I have to assume somebody is going to step in.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: But the person that immediately comes to mind for me
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: is JIMBEI And I don't feel like that really makes
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: that much sense from where I sit right now. But
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: the fact that he got invited to join the straw
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Hats and didn't does kind of make me feel like
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: something further has to happen with him, you know, So
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: maybe that just plot wise, would all line up.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know obligations, right, I don't know what
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: that is all means. Yeah, but oh, speaking about Jimmy, like,
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: how how did you come to terms like with the
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: idea that he will join or I'm going to be honest,
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: I feel you on your hesitancy, like what you expressed
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: last episode. Basically I felt that you do.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: That makes me feel better because I always feel sad
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: when it seems like there might be a big development happening,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: that that perhaps some folks were excited for me to
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: get to and that I'm not having a reaction that
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: they might want to see from me. But I have
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: to be honest about it. So so okay, tell me
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: your feelings on this, like how all this went.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Well. First of all, I'm not going to tell you
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: if he really joins and what will happen.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: That's fair. I'm not going to be like Sean and
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: try and trick you into telling me. Sean, if you're listening,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: she's not.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: That is always cute. I don't always cute spasif word.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but he's just like I like to try
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: that she just keeps Ryan, you know. Yeah, I think
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: that Chimbey again watching back. He was there in the
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: prison break, you know, and then at aces execution, and
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: he always was key, you know, like it is again
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: not that I dislike him, and I feel like he
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: would be a great asset to the team, you know,
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: like fighting wise, and I also feel like he can
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: keep a cool head in a way, you know, like
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: I feel like the way that he talked Looviy down
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: when was when Lovie was like basically dying, I mean
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: like dying in the way like mentally dying. And the
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: way that he talked talking that, Yeah, I feel like
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: that is I'm not saying not all the strades could
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: do that, you know, like like he I'm not saying
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: any that he would be the only one. But I
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: would say that he is a character that I totally
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: believe he's capable.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: Yes, agree, So.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: I can see like like benefits of him joining the group. Also,
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: he's a fish man, you know, like water action great
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: love that sure. But but other than that, like his
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: personality is just not I don't know, It's not bad.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: It's just not interesting.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: It's not exciting. Yeah, it's it's kind of funny because
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: like you know, I think I've talked a lot about
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: the sort of role that everybody plays in the crew
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: and like who is competent and who is less so,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: And you would really think that I would be more
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: pumped about JIMBEI because he is competent and there it
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: really is, and enough of that on the team, like
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: all things considered. But and like later on in this conversation,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: he says something to Lufy about how like you're supposed
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: to put yourself on the line to keep your crew safe,
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: and Lufy's just like, or I could eat treats and
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: do what I want, And Jiambay is genuinely like, wow,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: you guys really And I kind of thought he might
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: say something like I think I'm going to pass actually
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: now that you've said that, this doesn't seem like the
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: place for me. But yeah, he just I kind of
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: have I realized, like once he was asked to join,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: I realized that I have been waiting for another aspect
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: of Jimbay's personality to pop out, because we have seen
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: him as so serious and focused in such a fighter
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: and loyal, and I sort of thought like we're going
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: to turn a corner and see that maybe Jimbei has
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: some anger issues, or maybe Jimbae has a real weakness
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: for I don't know, some kind of food or hobby
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: or something that gives him a little dimension. And yes,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: I'm surprised at this point it hasn't happened, and it
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: doesn't seem like it will. A quirk. Yes, yes, there
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: you go exactly, and I'm trying to think of something
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: like it would be very fun if, for example, he
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: was super into soap operas, how about that? Just throw
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: that out there, something something weird like that, you know,
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: that'd be fun.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: He could be like my dad used to read like
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: a lot of these like really love novels, but like
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: really super over the top, you know, muddy, not smutty,
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: but just really I don't know, I will can only
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: live with you and the kind of thing.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Like oh okay, so like melodramatic, yes, gotcha? Yeah, And.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I would find it funny if he
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: would like read like weird books or something, or like comics, Yes,
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: like that, you would. It would not be really his character,
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: like something totally not feeling exactly.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Have you watched Gravity Falls?
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: I have? Yes.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: Do you remember the episode where gruncle Stan is watching
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: like a Jane Austen style period trauma and he's like
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: yelling at the TV you had your chance at the
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: katilion you what is he doing here? Like that kind
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: of thing. That's what I'm talking about.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, exactly. Ah, you know that that was a
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: good show.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: That was such a good so thank you eternally to
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: Melanie for COMMISSI need you to watch that. What a delight.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: That was. I've rewatched that whole series like twice since.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: Then, even Oh okay, no, I have not seen it
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: in a couple of years. I should give it a rewatch.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: Definitely. Do it pays off, especially after you like know
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: some of what's coming. There are so many little things
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: along the way that you're like, oh, those sneaky little bastards.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: That was a hint right there. It's very good. Yeah, anyway,
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, guys, we're not talking about but you should
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: go and watch Gravity Falls. Highly recommend it, and so yes,
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: and do that definitely. I'm trying to remember because I
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: feel like there was something else that that Jimmy tells them,
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: like in terms of news, and I don't remember what
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: it is.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: It's just webcast. It's Blackbeard, right, and he has.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: Like taken over all of white Beard's territories.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: Right, well, not all of it, but there was just
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: like a shift or like a power vacuum, and right
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: right right, he grabbed a big junk, like, for example,
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: Fisherman Island used to be white Beards. Now it's big mom.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: So it's not like everything automatically went to black Beard,
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, true or true? I should have seen that coming,
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: because you know, we've had a few hints at the
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: fact that the places that white Beard was protecting are
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: very much like left undefended and up for grabs at
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: this point, including this fucking place that we are right now.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: But I just wasn't really considering this was going to
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: be going on outside of where our friends were. I
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: thought that, like anywhere that it was happening, we would
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: get to see it. So there's something very upsetting about
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: finding out like later that, oh no, that's just been happening.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: Oh sorry, I dropped my I have his pen here
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: that I'm just fiddling with. But it's very upsetting to
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: realize that, like they're gonna come back up for air,
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: and he's going to have been hard at work the
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: whole time that they were gone, taking things over. I
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: don't like it. This is making me very nervous. Teach
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: is also just such a fucking maniac weirdo that I
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: don't know what he wants these territories for. What is
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: he even after Well we know what he's after. We
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: have that whole thing too, because it's really about devil
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: fruit powers. I just want, yeah, I just want to
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: take a moment and acknowledge the amazing joke of Chopper
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: being worried that they're gonna want his human human fruit power,
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: which is just a really good joke, and I felt
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: like it was underplayed a lot, and I wanted to
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: point it out because I found that truly hilarious. I
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: cackled to myself a little bit over that. But of
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: course Chopper is gonna be like, oh no, what about me?
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: And I think it's us up Who's like, I don't
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: think you need to worry about it, and Chopper just
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: just like, really, it doesn't get why. Oh Chopper, you
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: precious little angel. I love him so much.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: Say it again, He's the cutest. Sorry, yes, I think then, well,
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: the black Beard Pirates. I just find it funny how
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: first time we meet them, like we have a little
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: flashback here, but first time we meet them, like black
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: Bitch is like nothing, you know, he's just like something
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: time Like for us, he's nothing. As we later find out,
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: he'd like like Ace was after him and all that stuff.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: You know. But it's so interesting to basically introduced them
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: one of the now main vieelains in such a manner
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: like really, like so the guy.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember when I like, when we saw him
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: at Impaled Down, I think, and I had to be like,
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: why does this guy look familiar? And you guys all
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: had to like remind me, do you remember the dude
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: that was just like drunk in the street And I
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: was like, what this is him? It was just like,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: it's not usually how Oda plays it with villains, And
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: so I was genuinely like I thought, because this dude
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: started out so low key that he was going to
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: end up kind of being nothing. And when it turned
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: out that he is continuing on being a villain, he
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: still lived through all of these fights, and the fact
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: that he has learned how to do this like incredible
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: dangerous thing of taking these powers, I don't remember. Does
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: Jimby know how he figured out how to do this?
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: He doesn't know, right, No, I am super curious about
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: this because I feel like there has to be an
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: object that he attained or something like that that is
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: enabling this. Like this doesn't feel for me like the
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: kind of thing that a person just develops a skill
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: and they can suddenly do this. And since we have
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: another weapon out there out of these three, I assume
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: that's what he's working with. And I'm not sure if
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: it's like if he is aware or like and went
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: seeking it because of that, I would have to think
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: you would go seeking it, right, But this is all
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: me assuming that it's one of those three weapons, and
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: it may not be. But I mean, this is a
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: pretty massive thing to be able to do, so it
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: seems like it has to be a significant.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: Item or it is the same thing as Hero shiro
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: Ho she where like he is the weapon himself and
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: maybe the deal aware he can he's the only person
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: who can like control or have multiple devil.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: Fruits, you know, yeah, true to true.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: Which also would be like insane when you think about it.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: If that is one of the weapons, it would be
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: like okay, so also not not a bad but ability.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: I would love to see a h a like a
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: training montage of him learning how to use all of
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: these different devil fruit powers that he's managing at the
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: same time, and how like maybe he accidentally calls on
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: the wrong one at the wrong time, Like you know,
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: if he absorbed Luf's power and he's like falling from
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: a building and he's like, it's cool, I'll just turn
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: to rubber and survive, and then he picks the wrong
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: thing and like breaks every bone in his body and
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: everybody's like, what the hell man, and he's like, I
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: thought I was doing it. But anyway, okay, so we
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: have we have got to We're barely into this at all.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: Oh my god.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: I mean it seems that a lot of happens. Why
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: because it is still drawn out. The Yes anime is
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: really bad with that. It is like, I mean the
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: manga was also slow, but the anime is even slower.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, ok, you know, uh, we get to
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: see like him up against Akig and the fire v
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: Ice kind of moment here, and I also again another confession,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: sorry about this everybody, but Loofy like puts a hand
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: over his chest and says that bastard one, and I
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: was like, oh right, he fucked Loofy up. Like I
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: completely forgot about the personal beef that Loufy has going
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: on with this dude, and it's not you know, this
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: guy is so what's the word I want? Athay? You
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: knew is weirdly like Jimbei in some ways in that
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: he is so serious and so sort of like intense,
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: you know, but I found him much more boring at first,
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: and then as things continued and his ability was just
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: like became more and more wild and out there. The
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: fists of lava coming from this guy really kind of
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: won me over. Now I'm starting to be like, all right,
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: you know what, let's see what we're doing with this guy,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: because initially I was very much like, uh, this dude,
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: you know, lufy looking angry while he's eating food, truly
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: amazing animation. And we find out that Aokig was really
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: badly injured, couldn't even stand up, and Akayinu could have
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: killed him and didn't. He was merciful toward him in
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: a way that is kind of out of character. And
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: I'm really curious about that, Like, is it just sort
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: of the gentleman's agreement that we never said that this
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: was to the death so I'm not going to do that.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: Is it that they had been kind of on the
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: same side for so long that he can't bring himself
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: to do it. I don't know, and I don't know
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: if it even matters, but I will say that, oh
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: I love that. Yes, let's have them be like exes
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: who are trying really hard to get along. But AOKG
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: being a free agent, now that is very very compelling
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: to me, I am extremely curious about that. Like, his
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: powers are so bananas. All I can ever think with
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: him is just like how anybody who has him by
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: their side. I'm not trying to say that they'd be unstoppable,
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: because clearly not. He lost this fight, but it is
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: he is such a I'm trying well, yeah, but like
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: it's also because of his weird attitude where he seems
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: to not really want to put himself out. You could
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: also see like thinking that you have an asset and
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: then it turns out not really so much because he
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: doesn't want to bother unless things get really bad, So
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: which could be kind of fun to watch somebody who's like, no, no, no,
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: I have the power to do the thing. But I
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: was up really late last night and I'd kind of
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: just like to sleep in this morning, So if you
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: could just take care of it yourself, I would like
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: him to join the crew. I would just like to say,
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Jimbay. We appreciate your application, and you certainly
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: have an impressive resume, and we respect you and hope
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: to you know, wish you very well in the future.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: But Aukiji is somebody that's like I feel like he
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: would not only be a really fun power to have
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: in the group, but a personality that would be very
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: very fun to watch, especially up against somebody like Zorro,
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: who is also quite powerful and has his weird like
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: kind of lazy streak as well, but in a different way.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: I would really enjoy seeing that together. So yeah, that's
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: that's my wish list.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like Soa will be like mad at
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: okich if for not training, you know, and I would
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: eat you will be like lazy, like like Soer at
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: least trains, but ok, you not even do that, and
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: so it will be there, yeah, like what the fact.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then he'd be like, well, you're gonna lose
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: your abilities or something. And then okg would do something
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: completely opie and just piss Zoro off because he doesn't
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: he doesn't need to train. He can just do the thing,
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: which I'm sure would be very infuriating. So all right, Uh,
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: let's see, I'm trying to I'm trying to jump ahead
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: in this like conversation here. Oh yeah, this is when
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: we get the flashback of Teach and uh, the just
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: sort of refresh on what's going on with him and
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: the reminder about his whole power with the devil fruits,
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: and Jimby says, I worry for you the most, Loofy.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: I know there's a great deal of bad blood between
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: you and teach. You must take care. And as he's
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: saying this with this very serious face, Lufy is just
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: off to the side, stuffing his face and not hearing
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: a word that he says. And this is when he
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: gets really mad and just starts yelling at Loofy. A
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: captain is supposed to have some idea of the situation.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: What the hell, Chopper says, I thought the captain was
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: just supposed to goof off while the rest of the
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: crew looks out for him. I would like to remind
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: everybody that I have been saying that Lufy shouldn't be
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: the captain for some time now, and I stand by
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: that assessment. Chopper doesn't even know what a captain should do.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: That is how fucked up he is at this job.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: That's not great, sir.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm with you. I'm not like I know that
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: people out there who are like no, like blah blah
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: blah rolls off the captain say he does these and
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: that because what we've been golf as and captain's apparently wrong,
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: but I'm still he's still not a good captain, like
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: even yeah, like the semantics.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, yeah, I I feel like he could be
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: their their talent scout, they're pr guy. You know, there's
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: all kinds of titles that we could give Loofy and
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: and captain is just he just wants to say that
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: he is because of the ego of like I want
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: to be captain, but he doesn't actually want to do
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: any captain like jobs. He's not interested in that. So,
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: you know, Loofy is somebody who a lot of the
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: time ego feels like it's not a factor for him
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: at all the way it is for a lot of people.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: But when it comes to being captain, that is the
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: one place where it's really like quite He's got like
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: an immature sort of approach to everything.
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like I'm seeing that in the flashback
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: with Sabo and Ace, you know, like they had like
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: a whole thing who is going to be captain? So
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: it was always there and yeah, children like childish behavior
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: is exactly, but that's fine. We love him exactly.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: I just want everybody to like, can we all just
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: be honest about the fact that he's not good at
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: the job. It's all I'm asking. I am not saying
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: that I expect the plot to fire him. And I know,
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: you know, like I'm saying that everybody who is trying
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: to convince themselves that he's a good captain actually needs
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: to get fucking real. Stop it, you're lying yourself, you're
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: lying us. Knock it off, all right, So let's see,
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: I'm kinda okay. This is the part where Loofy just
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: sort of like sits up and looks around and says,
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: there's something weird going on. I think there's some kind
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: of monster here. And I fully thought that this was
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: like his using what is it called hockey, and but
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: both Sanji and Zorro also kind of stand up and
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: look around and agree with him. Are they using hockey too?
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: Now?
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: Is that what's being implied?
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: I think it has been said before, and I mean
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: they're like different kinds of hockeys. The one and that
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: they're using right now is called the observation hockey, and
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: it is basically exactly for that. It is like kind
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: of too obserradio surroundings, and in battle it is used
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: to dodge attacks like you see them.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: Coming basically okay, okay, but.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: It also can be used like in extreme form where
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: Kobe has it where he even can like hear their
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: thoughts or like people right when it's like an upper
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: level basically.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: So, so I had I had totally last episode, like
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: last grouping of episodes when I recorded on it, I
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: fully meant to bring up what her caribou and then forgot,
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: and so him showing up here, I was like, God, damn,
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: I forgot to even mention this, but this dude is
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: so so creepy, Like yeah, so I'm just going to
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna'm gonn. I hesitate even to even like go here,
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: but I'm gonna do it because it just feels like
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: this is sort of what Odo was doing and I
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: can't not address it. So it's very clear like the
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: implications of sexual assault that are going on with the
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: way that he comes up on her when she's laying
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: in a bed and he has her all like wrapped
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: up and tied up so that she can't speak or
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: move or anything. And there's also like the creepiness of
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: him hanging out on the ceiling and like dripping on her,
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: which very much was giving like the kind of dripping
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: that I just felt like we were and it just
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: felt like it was just kind of a metaphor, that's
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: all I'm saying. And the expressions on Florian's face right now,
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: you guys really struggling to just be like, yes, yes,
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: I'm listening.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, I fully agree, like I'm I'm you're not
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: telling me anything new. It is really astonishing. M nothing
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: in a good way. Nothing a good way, and it's.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: It's just weird. Like with the uh fucking dude whose
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: name I always forget, that was like beating the shit
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: out of Nico Robin he thank you, he had such
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: a dumb name. He was very much like feeling like
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: it was. There was a sexual component to the way
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: that he was treating her as well, but it was
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: like a sexual violence that was sadistic, whereas with wet
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: hair Caribou it feels much more like like grease, sleazy,
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: perverted kind of sexual assault. It's just got a different
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: energy to it. And with his fucking tongue that comes
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: out and like wobble all, can we just fucking not please?
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: I really really don't like it all. The only thing
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: that makes this like bearable is how bad he is
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: at getting away with any of it.
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he doesn't. Luckily, he does not get away like
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: pretty much ever. Yeah, at least that at least we
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: have bad I don't like it, y'all.
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: I don't like it.
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: It's very uncomfortable. He's just so like weirdly utilized as
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: well in the story because he disappears for four and
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: five episodes at a stretch and then just pops up
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: somewhere again. So the.
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: It.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: I just can't really get a handle on what we're
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: doing with this guy, because he's not our main villain. Yeah,
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: he's just sort of a stone in their shoe that
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: they keep having to deal with, you know. It's very odd.
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: And him also stealing a bunch of the Mermaids away
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: and everything like that element as well adds to this
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: sort of like ick factor because with span And it
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: felt very much like I have a grudge against Nico
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: Robin specifically, and I want to make an example out
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: of her because she made a fool out of me,
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: whereas with Caribou is just like, well, I just want
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: all the bitches I can get my hands on pretty much,
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: But he gets knocked away by Loofy luckily and like
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: the other two Hols are there. I love it. It's just
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: like one punch and later on, like we see him
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: just knocked out on the ground and.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: Lufy like knocks him out and then takes a bite
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: of whatever he's holding and just as he's still here,
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: and there's just like it took him no effort. He's
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: not even like he's not even worked up about it.
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: And then uh we beho, she that's what Lufy calls her,
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: right like freaks out, hugging him and falling all over him,
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: thanking him, and he is just absolutely unmoved because it
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: seems like he doesn't It's it's almost like he doesn't
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: understand what this guy was trying to do. Fully, he's
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: just more like, what are you doing here? Get out?
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: And you know what I mean.
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's unconcerned, but in his mind, as long he's there,
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: nothing will happen to her. Yeah, I feel like he
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: can be like confident in that. I agree, but he
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: cannot be save anybody from Nami, who is just like this.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: There's this whole setup with this whole gold that was
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: stolen by caribou, and the king is basically like Wow,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: we don't need it anymore. If you want to, you
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: can have it. And I'm just like, you could rebuild
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: a lot of things, the things that got destroyed.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: But okay, thank you, Florian, but we shut down the
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: whole Fishman district. Maybe you could have infused some of
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: this capital into revitalizing a whole section of It's fine, fine,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: but thank you. I appreciate you mentioning it. Thank you.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but a at least the straw Hads well get it.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: Or maybe they don't get it, as we see later
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: on with the deep that they.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: They didn't make it. Move you made it. Let's let's
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: be very clear about it. They didn't make that deal.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: This is not their idea, all right. So let's see
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: him trying to find the spot. Oh god, I forgot
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: about how there's like a tower that's just been sliced
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: in half. And it was Zoro and uh, what's the
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: name of the little starfish? And he's like, oh no,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: it was Zora, Papa, that's right. He was sacking and
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: slashing all over the place. So it was just like,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: why don't you keep your fucking mouth shut?
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: Would be an accomplice?
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: He said, Okay, so this is when we find out
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: that Hordy and his accomplices have somehow gotten out of
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: their handcuffs. And I will tell you, kiddos, I was
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: irritated because I thought what we were doing was going
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: back to fighting with Horty again. I really thought this
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: was like because what we find out is, yeah, they
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: got out of their handcuffs, but they're still in a
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: jail cell. They're still like in a dungeon, so it
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter that they got their handcuffs off. But they
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: made it sound very much like they've escaped. And y'all know,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: I am tired of Horty. I was tired of him
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: almost right away, and I had no interest in doing
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: more of this, And I was so relieved when that
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: turns out to not be what's happening here at all.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: Have you seen the uh, the Disney animated Aladdin?
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: The animated one?
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yes, I haven't seen a live actually in one.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: I couldn't bring myself to do it. The animated one is.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: So good, you know, honestly, so I don't know.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And they and they set this up really well
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: because they have Hordy like in extreme darkness with just
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: his eyes showing and his like silhouette at one point
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: as he's threatening all of them, so you really think
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: something has happened, and then the camera pulls out and
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: we see that him and all of these other dudes
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: are withered, gray old men. Hordy is like leaning on
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: a staff. And the reason I asked about Aladdin is
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: there is a point where an old man like Jafarre
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: pretends to be an old man in the prison where
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: Aladdin is being kept after he's a and like lures
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: him outside because he's trying to get him to open
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: the Cave of wonders. And Horty looks just like ja'far
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: in disguise. It's a very very similar sort of look.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: And I kept thinking, like even the way he's standing
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: and everything, and they're complaining about how their backs her,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: and Horty is like managing to still, what's the word
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: I want? He's like ignoring the state that he's in.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: The thing is if nobody else can see it, sir,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: what do you think you're gonna do?
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: He is in denial, and I don't know the flameous
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: of rage are ever burning something like that.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: That's true. I do love Zeo, of course, the obligatory
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: I do this on purpose. This is what I wanted
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: to have happen. Zeo, baby, get real, stop it. I
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: do like him though I can't help that he's funny.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say real quick, this is another part
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: where I just feel like, I mean, I like that
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: they get old like that there is like this drawback
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: to to like this power up. But I also feel
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: like this again a symbolism from older being like basically,
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: this is is what will happen to you if you
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: stay racist your whole life kind of oh like, you
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: will die old and bitter and have accomplished nothing, you know,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: like like I feel again, let's me reading into this.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: I'm saying again, I'm not sure if any of this
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: is correct, just my read on those things.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: I accept them. Yeah, well you know that's that's perfectly
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: adequate for me, and yeah, let's go with that, thank you.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: So then we find out that the pills, because I
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: had been saying like earlier, where did he even get
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: these from? And it's part of the whole thing with
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: like the tamate box that was that had disappeared and
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: it was hoardy back like ten years ago when they
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: I think that they vanished and I guess he had
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: just been sort of hoarding them, hoarding the hoarder. I
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: but it's not really like so I'm not I'm gonna
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: just read the actual like, what do you call it?
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: The dialogue here? Yeah, So the energy steroid and the
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: pill from inside the to Tommy box, they're one and
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: the same, aren't they? Or tamate box priceless artifact passed
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: down for generations. The pills hidden inside were highly valuable,
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: but ten years ago someone stole them from us. We
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: failed to catch the culprit. His majesty was concerned that
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: a scandal might break out, so we closed the case. Actually, Horty,
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: I think that happened around the time you left the Army.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: Interesting and Horty is just like, yeah, of course it
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: was fucking me. Yeah. I took him and I like,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: we don't really get much of an explanation on where
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: those pills come from. We just get told that they
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: existed and that they were like priceless and very old.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: And it was a bit it was like it was
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: sort of like an explanation, but not really enough of
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: one to make it satisfying. So I was very mixed
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: on how I felt about this because I was almost
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: like you, maybe just don't want to explain it then,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: because this isn't enough unless we get more later at
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: some point, you know.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: Like was that maybe maybe we'll like again, we have
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: always things from the past coming back, so.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. But yeah, it was just the whole
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: I was thinking that we were getting more of a story,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: and it was just sort of like, oh, yeah, those
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: things that we had that disappeared, you know.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: Okay, so that's like this, Uh, the the hoardy thing
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: takes a while getting through it, but eventually the episode
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: ends with this little lion man that's a little reference
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: to a famous song if anybody out there caught that,
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: who has come to the district where they make candy
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: and is demanding that they pay up their monthly installment
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: to Big Mama, who is a very large woman and
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: when I say large, I don't just mean fat, I
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: mean humongous in every sense woman who has a big,
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: sweet tooth and also like acid spit.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: It seems like.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: I think it's meant to be like her stomach acid
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: is going because she's so hungry that it makes her
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: spit dangerous to those around her.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: And your guess as good as any. Mm hm, I am.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say I yes, do you want to say something? No?
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: Please, please go ahead.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say I like it, Like, I mean, I
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: just like the introduction of her in this manner. I
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: just feel like this is the first time we have
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: heard of her before just the passing. This is like
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: we see her and when not Luvie does not see her,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: but we kind of see her in shadow. Yeah right,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: I like, So, I mean, did you find her impressive
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: or like?
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: It's so this is the thing that I have. I've
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: expressed this another point in this show, and I can't
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: remember what the character was, but anytime that I come
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: across this, it's very frustrating because it's so common. But
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: when you've got a fat villain and they have to
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: have a superpower, it so frequently has to do with
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: bile and vomit and like eating as oh, and it's
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: just it's so first of all, uninspired, and secondly, it's
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: it's just like a very ugly thing to see as
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: a fat person depicted all the time as just like, oh, well,
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: you're basically a monster, and you're like those are the
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: almost only fat characters that are in a lot of properties.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: In one piece, we've got more fat people like mixed
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: in because we've got people like Jimbei who aren't even
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: like humans, you know. But in a lot of properties,
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: you know, everybody else is slender, and then there's like
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: the one and so in that respect, I was just like, Wow,
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: we are really just doing this exact thing that I
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: have talked about, you know, So I don't enjoy that.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: I can't help. But like her weird pirate flag, you know,
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: this is the same thing that I ran to with Olvida,
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: is that if she has style, I will give her that.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: The whole vibe of her ship and everything. It's just
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: very It's I like the branding. I am a sucker
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: for marketing, and I feel like that was done pretty well.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: But in terms of this overall character, my like immediate
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: gut response was just like, oh god, you know.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair, I would say, But we have not
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: seen the last of her, I guess I can't say.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: So let's see what we have.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: And this this lion guy who is here on her behalf.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: Like I have to again, I know, I have to
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: let go of this to a degree, But this universe
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: is so very confusing with the way that animals sometimes talk,
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: but then other times they don't, And when they do,
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: people are always shocked. But they shouldn't be because there
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: seems to be a fair number of talking animals around,
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: So why are we ever surprised by it? Like people
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: respond in a shocked way to Chopper a lot. But
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: we've got Papago, We've got this guy. We've also got
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: like that dude from the Marines that was like half rat,
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: you know, like he was like a human but with
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: a rat nose. What about the marry you know, he
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: had the freakin sheep's head. Like, I don't feel like
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: I have a good grasp on what we're doing here.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: This is one of the things, like some things you
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: really got used to. But even back then when Mary
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: showed up, you were like, guys, what what happened to you?
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: And still like five hundred episodes later, like this is
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: one of the few things that you are consistent on.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: I can tell, And I mean it's a fair question.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: It is a fair question. Yeah.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to like demand an explanation exactly. I
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: just really want to point it out every time that
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: it happens, because I feel like it's a very easy
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: thing to not pay much attention to and just take
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: it as it comes and accept it. And while I
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: encourage that in casual viewing for my job, I must
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: like make a point of just what is this though? Why?
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: And not only can he talk, he's like in a
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: fucking suit, like a three piece, with a pocket watch,
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: like the whole thing. It's a weird sort of vibe
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: because like him, combined with the other dude with the
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: French accent, it seems like we're going for a certain
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: theme in terms of their look that I don't know
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: if it's supposed to be sort of like nineteen twenties
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: or turn of the century or what. And you know,
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: maybe I'll see more of her henchmen and start to
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: really kind of get the picture there. But yeah, it's
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: just it's very strange.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: It is. But I'm gonna say the outer dude his
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: name is Tamago. Yeah, Tamago is his name. Like the
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: French street I just really like his design. I just
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: have to say, I don't know what it is, yeah, true, true,
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: Like these super long legs, the act I don't know
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: why there is an egg and the teacup had literally
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: te like, I just love it. I don't know, it's
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: just crazy and I love it.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: It is very, very weird. I really really enjoyed his accent,
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: like it's you know, the most over the top silly
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: put on accent and combined with the mustache, it definitely
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: was like giving Puaro a few times. Uh, he uses
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: a lot of like, you know, little French phrases dotted
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: into things the way that Puaro does. Anybody out there
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: who's a BBC Puio fan raise your hand, because I
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: fucking love that show so much. But yeah, so I do,
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: really And I also like the fact that, like eventually,
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: when Loofy takes the phone and is just like I
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: ate all the candy, that dude is the one to
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: step up and be like, well, what if we just
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: took the money and we could get you candy later,
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: I could get you something on the store and the
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: way home. Like he's so reasonable and that is so
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: unexpected with a character like this that I really was
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: sort of won over by him. So yeah, that's that's
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: where I stand on him. But yeah, this, uh, basically
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: they're taking protection money, like you know, the mob comes
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: around and is like a nice story you've got here
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: be a shame if something happened to it and the.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: Like.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: They didn't set aside what they needed to keep her happy.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: They just either Letlofy eat all of it or didn't
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: realize how fast he was eating, and so when they
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: looked up they realized, oh shit, we don't have enough.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: I think that's supposed to be kind of what happened.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: I would because Louvie eats an ungodly amount. Nobody is
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: ready how much he consumes.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: That's true, Louviy, why are you like? This screwed up
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: this whole racket they had going.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: And I love that. I'm sorry, I loved that picks
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: up the phone because what I love about louvi Again,
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: we talked a little shit about him before, but I
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: love that he is driving the plot like that is
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: something that I love at him as a main character.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: The plot is not happening to him. He makes the
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: plot happen like like he is happening true. You know, yeah,
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: I just love it. I just love it. It is
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: like writing wise, it is great, and like him as
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: his personality and everything, I just find it delightful. Even
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: though he's talking to like one of the most badass
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: pirates on the planet apparently, and is she talking her?
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I did sort of enjoy the fact that he
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: just straight up tells her like, yeah, I ate all
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: of that shit, That's why it's gone. He doesn't care
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: if she knows he did it. He's just so confident
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: in his own abilities and also doesn't really fully think
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: through the Uh. The long term consequence is because Lufi
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: is a man of the moment. He is somebody who
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: lives at the present. So yeah, that's right. Because he
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: comes out and says that he picked down and ate
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: it all, and that Yon is just standing outside and
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: when he's yelling about how he has he's eaten it all,
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: everybody's being like, can you just shut up? Can you
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: not say that super loud in front of this particular dude,
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: And the Lion recognizes him. He has like a little
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: rolodex with him that he flips through and sees Lufy's
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: face and is like, oh, this is a pirate. What
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: are you even doing here? And I'm like, is this
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: why does why does he have a rolodex?
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: Oh? I feel like they just go as to how
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: organized they are. I would say, you.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: Know, okay, Okay, yeah, I see that. It's so like,
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: it's so because I'm so used to people like standing
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: around and then they look and there's a poster pinned
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: up somewhere, you know, that's how they But he like
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: pulls a little thing out of his pocket and it's
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: just flipping through it, like who's this guy? Now? As
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: if he's fully expect anytime somebody shows up that he
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: should be able to look them up somehow, like he's
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: got a link into the FBI database or something facial
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: recognition software. So, oh my god, this lion lifts his
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: glasses at one point and his eyes are just two
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: black dots. And I don't know why. That was the
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: creepiest thing. I really didn't like it. It's like he's got.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 3: No oh I'm alone. Mm hmmm, mm hmmm.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: I don't know where she went. Mm hmm.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: I'm terribly.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: Hello, I cannot hear you. Can you hear me? Okay?
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: Okay? Can you hear me now?
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: Yes? Now, I can hear you?
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: Okay, Yes, I'm sorry. I was like clicking between the
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: tabs to go look at the and I clicked the
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: X on this tab and it asked, are you sure?
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: And I said no, I'm not to stay, and it
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: just went black. Anyway, Oh no, I said no, I'm
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: not sure, So why did you why did you make
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: me leave? I don't know. I don't know what happened.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. Anyway, Reminder to self that toward the
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: end of this episode, I have to cut that part out.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: What was Oh? I was saying that the lion's eyes
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: were very creepy.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: I don't like.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, i'm the lion's eyes. I'm not sure if
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: it's supposed to be cute, funny or creepy, Like I
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: cannot decide. I mean, I don't I'm I'm with you.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: Actually I find it more creepy than anything. But I
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: don't know, like the reaction of the townsfolks is like
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: he has so small eyes, or like like it's supposed
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: to be cute and I'm like, it's not cute cut
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: but or like what was that? What is the movie
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: called Caroline? No, like where they have like.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: Horror line with they are that buttons? Oh yeah, m yeah.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: Kind of reminds me of that in a weird way.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: I don't like.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: I don't like the I think it was I don't
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: know if it's cute exactly that they're suggesting, but the
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: impression that I got was sort of like, his eyes
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: are so unimpressive compared to what you would expect from
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: Halaian that when they say something like, oh, look at
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: those little eyes, it's more like kind of condescending, like,
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: oh my god, look at those you know what I mean?
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds better than mine, probably that that's right
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: what I think.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I really this whole like new grouping of
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: characters is so much more interesting than Hordy at the
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: very least, you know, I have my issues with this
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: lady's depiction, but at least we don't just have some
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: like the The thing with Hordy that was supposed to
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: be interesting was that he was a fish man and
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: his cohorts were different types of sharks, and to see
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: what we were doing with that, but it failed to
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: be interesting in the context of being on Fishman Island
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: with a bunch of other fishmen. It was interesting with
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: our long when we were up on the surface because
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: these were the first fishmen we'd ever encountered, and every
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: time we met a new one, I was just like,
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: what the fuck, you know, But because we're surrounded by
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: weird half fish people. Now, they failed to be that compelling,
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: and they also didn't have like a unifying theme to
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: their look except for the fact that they were all sharks,
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: so they just kind of felt bland, you know. So
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: these guys have they've got a real like fucking vibe
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: to them at the very least.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: Definitely, And I lossed one of the quicks. Say, what's
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: it called the holdy Pirates? Maybe all the reason why
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: they're not so impressive is by design because it's after
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: time escape and yeah, double like have easy to defeat
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: geek enemies. But yeah, I don't that makes sense. But no,
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: I love like the there's this introduction to the big
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: man Pirates that we get here. I think also when
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 2: she is on the phone with Lufy, she's like, he
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: says his name and she says, oh, you Garb's grandson, so.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, she knows exactly who he is mm hmm.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: And I always find it interesting.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: That makes sense with the Rolotax, like what you like
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: you were saying, they're so organized and the rolodex, so
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: like her knowing exactly who he's related to and everything
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: that goes together. I like that okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry I interrupted you.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: No, no, I don't just I just like like that.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: And I don't know if you catch that. But apparently
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 2: she also ate people or like she was talking to
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: something and that something got eaten mm hmmm, and it
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: was thinking like at least we only hear it, like
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: it's only sound happening. But that's how I took it.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: Is that did you took it that way as well?
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: Or yes? Because she said, like she's talking about the candy,
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: we hear voices that are like sweet candies coming love candy,
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: can't wait to have some, and she basically it seems
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: like takes exception to the idea that they think they're
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: going to get to eat some of her candy, like
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: who the hell do you think you are? And so
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: she says, you can eat it from inside my stomach
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: and then you just hear screaming. So yeah, it suggested
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: like she eats them as punishment because she doesn't want
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: to share, which has never been more relatable, like, frankly,
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: I would also do this, don't. I'm very much like
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: Joey from Friends. Joey doesn't share food and I don't.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: This is something that is particularly irritating for me with
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: Owen because I will make all like this, this meal
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: that will last us a few days with leftovers, and
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: I will be like, I'm gonna heat myself up something, babe,
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: you want any No, I'm good, And then I heat
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: it up and it smells unbelievable because I'm a very
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: good cook. And I sit down next to him on
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: the couch and all of a sudden, here's a no, wow,
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: that actually smells pretty good. That looks good too? Is
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: it good? Go get your own. Don't fucking stop even
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: looking at my bowl. Get out of here right now.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, No, I get what I get really really
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: mad about it is like when just people take food,
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 2: you know, like that is god like they like. And
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: for example, like one time I had like French French fries,
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 2: like we were in the restaurant and my aunt just
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: takes some and I'm just like, no, that's like literally,
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: we not And it was kind of like a not
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 2: a whole whole deal, but it was kind of like no,
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: like and if you actually would ask me, like, hey,
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: can I have some fries? I would give her some
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: because I love it right exactly, but just don't take
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 2: them like what the fund is?
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: Just taking food is like for me, shifts how I
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: see you as a person, Like entirely, I will go
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: from being like I'm about ninety percent I'm liking this guy,
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: you take food off my plate, but in half forty
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: five like I I m hm. And also the other
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: one that I really I get irritated about. And this
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: is sort of a perspective thing, but I stand by it.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: When you get appetizers at a restaurant mm hm, and
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: you get one for yourself, and it's the type of
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: thing like say, fries fries. Can I have a fry? Reasonable,
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: there's you know, a pile of thirty fries. Sure, you
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: can have a fry. But if you get like three
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: potato skins and somebody is like, oh, can I stand
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: one of those potatoes? What the thirty percent of this
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: overall dish of food? Absolutely fucking not. You can't just
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: take one?
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: What do you mean.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: Anyway?
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: No? I I fully agree. That's why I'm always want
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 2: like when they don't ride like the mound, like what's
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: this other one like.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: Like the yeah m.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: Hm, and it's just like stands there and I'm like, yeah,
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: but how many this is important. I'm sorry, I need
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: to know or like we had to tape, need to
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: know how many pieces that means, you know, pieces of bread.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because there's nothing worse than being like, oh, we'll
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: get this for the table of four, and then they
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: bring it and there's three. How the fuck do you
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: divide that up? Like now, this is just a big
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: pain in the ass. Yeah, I completely agree. Oh god, anyway, guys,
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: I know that nobody like gets as mad as I
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: do about this, but I just can't help the reaction
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: it feels. I'm I am not a sharer on some
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: For some things, I will share any like, no problem.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: But anyway, I.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: Don't have a problem with sharing, just like, yeah, don't
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 2: take it without asking a big no. No.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, I forgot about the fact that Lufy
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: just bursts out laughing at this line. Like he starts
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: off at first just saying it's hard to take you seriously,
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: and then the lion lifts his glasses to kind of
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: threaten him, and that's when Lufy really loses it and
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: starts cracking up in his face. And yeah, here comes
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: Tomogo from the side and he's talking about a tea party. Look, guys,
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest here. As much as this character,
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: like this fat woman with acid spit is pushing a
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: lot of buttons for me. Also the fact that she
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: doesn't like to share food and she's gonna have a
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: tea party. I'm really really getting sucked in. I can't
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: help it. Like that is one hundred percent my vibe
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: very much, So I can't help it.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: I cannot help you either, Like what do you want
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 2: me to do? Right? All right? But I enjoyed it,
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, your your reaction to all of this, because
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 2: I was. I mean, I know we don't have a
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 2: lot of time left, but it is.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: This.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: How do I say that? This arc war is like
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 2: a what to call it? It is one of the
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 2: worst ones. So I'm just gonna say it like that.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 2: It is not really a great one.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: And I mean Hoardy or the one that's coming.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, the Horty one. I like this, okay,
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 2: And it's just like a light at the end of
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: the tunnel is opening up.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's really sad to hear. Like I'm
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: just thinking back to how excited I got at the
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: prospect of going to Fishman Island and how cool I
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: thought it would be, And it feels like there was
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: so much potential to do something really interesting that got
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: kind of squandered. Like we had some stuff that was
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: cool with the big bubble and the way that like
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: you know, you have to deal with sometimes being out
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: in the air and sometimes being underwater and creating space
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: for everybody, and I thought that was neat, But like
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: I just really pictured a lot more interaction with like
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: an ocean environment, Like there would be fish that we're
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: swimming around and we see even like in the background,
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: but they're not really like part of things. It's not.
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: The town just kind of mostly feels like a regular
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: town on land in a lot of ways. And even
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: like the fight between Loofy and Hordy, I had expected
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: that if we were going to have fights underwater, they
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: would be like, oh, we're hiding behind giant coral or
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: seashells or something, you know what I mean. And it's
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: just out in the water, like just in open space.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: So yeah, it's a bit of a bummer. I really
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: thought we were gonna be doing a little bit more
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: with this sort of in the way that we did
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: with the Sky Island, because I felt like there was
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: more of that, yeah.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 2: He went out there, but I also day like for
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 2: a first time, you were this means nothing. But this
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 2: arc is actually also on a rewatch. I like it
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 2: a lot more, and not just because of what happens here,
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 2: but because of what is common in the next like
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 2: hundreds and hundreds of episodes, because again, this is like
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 2: the first arc after the time skip, So once again
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 2: there is like way more set up here than you
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 2: realize the first time around, like way more seats are
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 2: planted here. Then you can clog at the first watching
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 2: and when you come back you're like, oh, okay, I
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 2: see what started here, or like what foreshadowing was happening here?
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: You know, okay, But.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 2: For again, that means nothing to somebody who watches it
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 2: for the first time, of.
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: Course, yeah, I mean, and there is some there times
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: where that can really still feel like it's a how
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: to say this. I just finished reading the Court of
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: Thorns and Roses series, and the first book I really
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: did not like the first time I read it, but
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: once I got to the second book, it was so
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: much better. And it couldn't have been as good if
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: you didn't suffer through the first book, So it made
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: it feel like, Okay, you know what, Ultimately there's a
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: good payoff to this, and sometimes that's not how you feel.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: Even when you get to the point where it's supposedly
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: paying off, you're like, that really wasn't entirely worth it?
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: So you know, we'll see hopefully. I'm like, no, okay,
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: that was worth it ultimately, who knows.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just gonna ask, like me before the finish,
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 2: unless you want to say something about the episodes that
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 2: it is left. But I feel like we no, I
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: think that.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: I'm yeah, yeah, go aheay me with that question.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just in general, like, what do you think will
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 2: I'm going to ask this, will there prediction the prediction
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 2: come true or not that Madame Carley had of Louvis
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 2: being surrounded by flames in Fisherman Island.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up because I was
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: confused that we never have that. Yeah.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 2: Well, basically my question is what's a prediction with the fishmen?
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 2: What is going to happen further in the story.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: Like with them, I genuinely don't know what to expect because,
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: like my first instinct had been once this is done,
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: what we're leaving. But with the reveal of the princess
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: being this weapon. I don't feel like that is what
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: we're gonna do. That doesn't really make sense now. So
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: I and the flames, like I'm assuming is a okhegee
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: being involved somehow that like, and yet it's like fishman
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: islands like underwater. I feel like fire shouldn't be that
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: big a problem for them. Frankly, and him coming down here,
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: I don't see it. But I also am unclear on
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: how like he If he is absolute justice, I guess
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: he's the type that would just pursue Loofy to the
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: ends of the earth, like literally and just be like,
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta find him, and I gotta just
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: take care of this fucking guy once and for all.
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: So I am assuming that there's gonna be some sort
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: of showdown, but I don't think he's gonna destroy the island.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: I think she just saw him in flames and was
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: just like, oh, that's what that means, which, in my opinion,
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: is very irresponsible. As a seer, you don't just make
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: snap judgments like that.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 2: So, by the way, I feel like we they said
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 2: it one time, but she is our long sister.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: Actually, oh my god, what did they say that. I
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: don't remember that.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 2: One time that said it. She is the younger sister
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 2: of alone. It is not really that important, but it
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 2: is kind of yeah, interesting family. I guess.
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: What that's bonkers? Why why? Why do that?
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 2: It is really like an it is an oftend comment
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 2: at some point. I feel like, you know, we must
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 2: have asked it. It had to be said at this
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 2: point at some point because it was like around her
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 2: introduction a little later after her introduction.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: Man, yeah, I do not remember that at all. That's funny. Well,
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: I guess that's about it. M Do you have any
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: further comments that you want to make or anything that
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: you want to plug or anything like that.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 2: Well, just still thank you for watching it. I still
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 2: hope that you're enjoying it, even though, like we have
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 2: been a couple of rough episodes, but I hope it's
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 2: not too much of a pain.
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: No, it's certainly like there have definitely been war SARCs
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: for sure. And what's the space that got killed in
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: the first season. I'm so delighted the way they handled that.
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: It was great.
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 2: No, and and one other thing I want to plug.
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 2: I don't know, like you guys, I have started or
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 2: I'm going to start being a dungeon master and oh
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 2: cool for dungeon and dragons. And it's not like I'm
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 2: and I'm just on my Instagram, which is south dot
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 2: Art where I usually drew pictures, but I have not
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 2: done it. Why so you can go and following. I
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 2: basically I basically documented a little bit how I become
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 2: a dungeon master now because it was like a whole
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 2: like I just kind of it happened, and now I
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 2: have to prepare our first first session is in like
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 2: a month, and I have to figure out how this works.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 2: I mean I played D and D before, but never
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 2: as a dungeon master.
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: It's a lot of work. Owen, Yeah, Owen was doing
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: it for a while and he finally was just like,
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: you know, I've ben I just don't like being in charge.
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: I like to just show up and do my thing.
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: And he was just like, I just can't. This is
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: so much work. So it's not for everybody, but I
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: think it's always a good thing to just do once
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: so that you fully appreciate the amount of work that
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: goes into planning these campaigns. All right, well, good for you.
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So if you want to see how I handle
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 2: it and go and follow me.
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: All right, all right, guys, we'll check them out South
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: dot Art. Right, there's a period, okay, cool, all right,
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: Thank you guys again so much. Thank you Florian for
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: commissioning this and for joining me. It's always very fun
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: to have you on. Appreciate you a lot, and also
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: our patients and me having to reschedule things over and
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: over and over and over again. All right, everybody, until
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: next time to the lou motherfuckers. That was an Unspoiled
• 1:43:13
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