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Rightwing men HATE women and we need to talk about it | Maintaining Frame 106 · Honey Badger Radio

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  One. Hello, and welcome TONI your radio. My name is Alison and
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  with me is Brian and we will be covering right win, right right win.
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  Maybe it is right win, eh. Right wing men hate women and
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  we need to talk about it, maintaining frame number one oh six. All
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  it Feedbadger dot com slash support. All right, so we are what are
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  we covering here, Brian, since this was your selection? All right?
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  So we have this video interview on the channel known as trigger Nometry and they
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  are talking to a woman named Ashley Saint Clair. Ashley Saint Clair is a
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  cultural commentator and contributor to the Babylon b And the reason why I caught my
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  eye was the trailer I watched. So the trailer was something about like,
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  you know, the right has a misogyny problem, and I saw that and
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  it was going around the Twitter verse, and I actually enjoyed the discourse because
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  you know, once upon a time, I think once upon a time it
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  is somebody had said blank has a misogyny problem, there would have been a
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  scrambling of people to like address it, like, oh, we got to
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  do something about this, you know. But it, as it turns out,
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  people are a lot less enthusiastic about this, and they're annoyed that women
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  like Ashley's Ashley Saint Clair are essentially engaging in this. And the comment section
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  of this video will also demonstrates that. So I think it's personally, I
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  think it's good times. So but yeah, I saw the trail. Yeah,
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  I saw the trailer. I think that it is the The overall interview
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  is about more than that. But this is where I'm only going to pick
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  out the parts where you know, Ashley Saint clair Is is airing her grievances
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  and the trigger Nometry hosts respond to them, and it is as cringe as
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  you think. But I would say, before you get to rageye, bear
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  in mind the comment sect is not favorable to them. So so the white
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  the white pill comes in the comment section. Yeah, the white pill comes
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  in the reaction to the content. Okay, sor right, I gotta remember,
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  I gotta stay a little bit further back. I hope I didn't blow
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  people's ear drums out with that. No, No, it's all right.
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  I put a limitter on it so you you can't go too high. All
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  right, So let's get into let's get into the video, and I'm gonna
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  I jumped ahead to the section called women shouldn't vote. So welcome to trick,
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  and I thank you for having me. I'm excited to finally stick it
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  down with you. I'm a big fan. Were both friends. Forward.
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  No, I jumped forward because the beginning is just an intro thing. Oh
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  okay, all right, I'm just jumping to the first time, time zone
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  or time. It just threw me because she's there like in like they're saying
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  hello, and like, is that not normally the intro? I guess that's
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  usually how things start. No, there's usually like a you know, there's
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  usually like a like a tea, Yeah, like a sizzler thing that's like,
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  oh, she's gonna say controversial things, you know, like exactly something.
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  Let's uh, let's let's play stuff that you put on. You're very
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  funny. We met a couple of weeks ago, so we thoughtways sit down
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  and have a conversation for a woman, right, funny for a woman for
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  a woman. Now we you know, is actually one of the things that
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  we wanted to talk a little bit about because women. Yeah, because because
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  the online conversation, certainly in our space about women has kind of gone a
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  little bit crazy. Okay, said this person? Who is who her?
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  Ashley Sinclair? Do you know she worked? I don't know her obviously,
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  I don't know her personally. She like I said, she's a cultural I
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  said in the beginning, did you not listen, she's a cultural com a
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  cultural commentator, like she works for the Babylon Bee. All right, The
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  Babylon b is a satire website, very funny articles, by the way.
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  No, I'm just finding just like, does she have anything any but background
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  in issues between men and women? Or I think she's a woman online with
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  an opinion, and I think that that's probably enough for that, right,
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  Okay, So yeah, I know that I shouldn't. I mean, I
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  recognize I shouldn't play the credentials game in this instance, but I have myself
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  done work on these issues for twenty years. So I was thinking maybe she
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  had something like that. Oh no, okay, No, I don't think
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  so. I mean she seemed I think that. I think that really she's
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  just a woman who is a has some clout online, some e fame,
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  and she has opinions. Therefore we have to listen. So well, let's
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  yeah. I mean you could say Karen is sort of in that situation too,
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  like she's I mean, we're both like commentators on the internet. You
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  know, she's done a lot of research. I've done a lot of research.
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  Does her work actually Saint Claire's reflect research? I have no idea.
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  I think we should I think we should listen. Yeah, question for the
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  commentators, you guys can correct us if I'm barking up the wrong tree.
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  Yeah. Let's so they're talking to her about an argument or something going on
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  on Twitter that is concerning to women like her. Okay, let's play basically,
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  she's a woman, she's a wexpert because she's a woman. Yeah,
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  she she's friends with she's sort of like online friends with Lauren Southern, if
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  that is any if if there's a clue there, but it does, it
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  does grow towards sort of a conclusion. But lets yeah, you're right,
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  let's listen. Let's listen. Okay, Jay, when you described the sphere,
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  you called it the Retardo sphere. Yeah, and I think that's exactly
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  what it is right now, and it's for whatever reasons, so much of
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  the right is devolving into these Andrew taitisms, which good or bad. I
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  just think there's a lot more important conversations we could be having than whether or
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  not it's been a good thing that women vote, and that's obviously not.
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  But I also think a lot of these people who say, and for those
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  unfamiliar, there's a lot of discourse eating up the right on the Nineteenth Amendment.
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  Whether or not the Nineteenth Amendment was a good thing, No, we
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  think there is. But okay, well there is. There is this graph
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  here and this is being shared around Twitter, and it says what twenty sixteen
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  would look like if only women voted, what twenty sixteen would look like if
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  only men voted. So there is a suggestion that women. And the thing
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  about flyover states is there they tend to be read anyway, but it does
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  show that women tend to vote a certain way. And I don't think there's
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  anything wrong with noticing and pointing that out, and that's kind of the discourse
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  online. But this is really troubling for people like Ashley Saint Clair. Oh
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  she is she? Actually she's she's a conservative or a Republican. Yeah,
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  she's Yeah. The Babylon Bee is a conservative outlet. She is a conservative
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  woman, well quote unquote conservative women. Some conservative commentators are noticing that the
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  Party of Single Women is voted for by women. Fascinating. Yea, well,
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  I mean it's all basically the Party of single women now, but yeah,
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  but there. The thing is is that the supposed and I'm again really
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  loosely here, conservative women are still like more loyal to women as a group
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  than like whatever ideals, whatever values, whatever principles. Yeah, those are
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  all gone because kat Turd said something triggering on Twitter and now I'm going to
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  vote to destroy the country to get back at him and all men. But
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  I'm totally a conservative, guys and not a feminist myself. So yeah,
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  that's I mean, that's what problem, That's what she's upset about. Here's
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  the problem, if can what is the solution to this? Right, what
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  is the solution is are conservatives supposed to appeal to women in the way that
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  Democrats do well, then then the Republican Party is essentially another well it really
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  is another version of the Democrats, but it just is. You see,
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  the thing is that the Democrats are moving towards much faster, towards appealing to
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  women more and more and more, and also the the groups of people that
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  that women advocate for instead of children. But the only the only way that
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  we can change this, So the only way that can the right could change
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  this is by moving towards or appealing to the female vote even more and the
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  all and they really aren't going to pick up the same votes as the Democrats
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  that they will just pick up you know some women who want to move a
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  little slower towards whatever, and we're going to, you know, in appealing
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  to women. That's like, it seems like it's not a winning strategy.
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  But honestly, if that's the way that Republicans want to go, then what
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  they need to do is they need to embrace all of the talking points of
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  the left of Democrats and just start pushing you know, pro immigration policies,
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  pushing pro trans particularly pro trans women policies, pushing all of that stuff.
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  They just basically have to copy the Democrats playbook and become Democrats. But then
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  the question is what values does your party have then, like, do you
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  have any distinct values? Well, see that's the thing. Well actually saying
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  Clara, we have to we should watch more of her video. But I
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  don't think that she has solutions. I think she just has grievances because that's
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  what that's what they do. They complain. So let's listen to more of
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  this. We repealed the nineteenth If women didn't vote, we'd always have a
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  Republican president. Well you could apply that to other groups as well besides women.
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  But it's just acceptable to hate women and say these things about women.
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  Yes, if only white men voted, we would always have a Republican president,
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  but that's not the reality. We're not going backwards. Women vote more
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  than men. That's just the reality of this situation. So I think it's
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  it's such a pointless conversation, but it's taking up so much of the dialogue
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  that they want to blame women for all of the ales and society, which
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  I just think that's absurd. Why do you think is happening? Who just
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  listen to that again? Just that we'll just listen to that again, that
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  we're blaming women for everything. Yesides women, but it's just acceptable to hate
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  women and say these things about women. Yes, if only white men voted,
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  we would always have a Republican president, but that's not the reality.
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  We're not going backwards. Women vote more than men. That's just the reality
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  of this situation. So I think it's it's such a pointless conversation, but
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  it's taking up so much of the dialogue that they want to blame women for
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  all of the ales in society, which I just Okay, all right,
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  what conservative issue isn't a result of Democrat policy, like issues with immigration,
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  issues with fiscal problems like the the the problems they that they're seeing with trans
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  I mean, I'm just seeing this neutrally just as a neutral observer, as
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  a as an enlightened centrist hovering above everybody making fun of myself by the way,
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  I'm just I'm just saying, but like all of the aspects of the
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  Republican platform are of course, or or are a good portion of it is
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  opposing what Democrats have done, right, And when you look at it and
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  you say, well, the reason why Democrats are doing these things is because
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  women are voting for them, period, full stop. How can you not
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  sort of say, well, if you look at the world from the Republican
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  perspective, yeah, women voters are sort of sort of the problem. Like,
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  I mean, that's the conclusion is inevitable. It's an inevitable conclusion.
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  Yeah, that's it. That's what Like the thing is is that this she
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  thinks that this is like troubling. I guess, well, we can get
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  into more of the video, but essentially there's just Now I was just talking
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  to Lindsay about this today. I said, all it is is there's men
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  and they're online and they're talking to each other and they're like, what do
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  we do? And then they're looking at they're they're looking at patterns, they're
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  looking at voting habits, they're looking at the policies that are essentially the you
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  know, the the the issues of the day, and almost all of them
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  are the ones that women care about the most, you know, Like there's
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  there are some that are like that are that don't have like a particular sex,
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  like immigration affects men and women, you know, for example, the
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  economy affects men and women. But then there are some that are like you
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  know, all women, like only like abortion, like you know, the
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  trends issue, like the title nine, things like that. So basically,
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  you have issues that both sexes care about, and then we have issues that
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  only women care about. And that's it, like men's issues like whatever those
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  might be, that's not even on the table. Yes, So yeah,
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  that's not even an option to discuss. So it's like, actually, Saint
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  Clair doesn't seem this is the thing. She can't see that there are men
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  who are essentially just fed up with this like uphill battle of just wanting something
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  that is good governance and fair. It's not even like Republican in terms of
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  like the party because most of the party is corrupt and they don't like them
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  either. So it's not even about that. It's just like, there's what
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  men want, and they're like, looking at, Okay, we should be
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  spending less money, we should have a border, we should have a military,
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  we should not be intervening in other people's shit, we should be spending
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  less money, you know, like all of that. And and there are
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  women who are like, yeah, but if you don't consider my needs,
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  I'm going to vote for the other side. Like I don't care that.
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  It doesn't matter that I'm on your side now, because I could just decide
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  not to be. And so when men are like, well, why is
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  it that when men vote, when we vote, at least in most cases,
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  we're considering not just like our you know, the way that we benefit
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  as men, but we but also how our family benefits, how our line
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  will benefit, like our children and our children's children, and how our society
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  will benefit. And it sounds like women are just thinking about themselves, and
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  so it and there's no there's no like, it's not like there's a trade
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  off. It's not like women are putting their skin in the game to the
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  same extent so it makes men wonder like, well, then what are we
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  doing? You know? And of course this is offensive to women, and
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  that's ultimately what Ashley Saint Clair is talking about. It's what Lauren Southern is
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  talking about, It's what so many other except for a few Lauren chen is
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  okay, but a lot of women who are supposedly conservative and again I use
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  that term sparingly because they're not acting like conservatives. And I don't think they're
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  calling yourself something makes you the thing. You have to act like it.
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  You have to have the values. They're not living up to that because they
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  want to have their caken either to just like feminist women there is no difference,
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  okay, just to get in there as again the enlightened centrist hovering above
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  all of this. I'm being self deprecating, by the way when I say
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  that final, but I am sort of like a how should we put it?
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  More masculine as a woman, So sometimes I sort of feel like I'm
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  in between the camps. What I am seeing is that it is not typical
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  for women to really comprehend the nature of a system and how a system works
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  and how things impact systems. They don't seem to have as much of an
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  interest in it. I don't know if the ability is inherent. Maybe it's
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  just the lack of interest. They seem to have much more interest in,
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  like more emotional interrelational things. I mean, women will even say we're more
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  empathetic, which means that they just are more interested in interrelational stuff, right,
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  the women will even say that. And but the consequence of that,
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  the negative of that is that when you are more focused on individual like the
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  individual anecdote, the story, the emotion, you don't necessarily see the overall
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  picture of things, the system, the interaction of parts, that kind of
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  thing. You don't step back and look at things from that kind of more
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  cold, calculating perspective. And what I'm seeing is that with the Party of
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  Single Women, the rise of the Party of the single women, specifically not
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  just women voters, but single women voters, there is less and less of
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  an understanding of how the system works, or a sense of responsibility to maintain
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  it that makes sense, like a sense of I have to sacrifice this,
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  that or the other thing to make sure that the system continues to function.
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  So what we have is we have a voting block that doesn't understand what it
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  relies on for things to happen, and so it appears. And then there's
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  this other kind of mental quality that has been I think this is more inculcated
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  in women that they think men are almost like infinite giving block, so that
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  every time a man fails, probably not because he didn't want to be able
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  to do it, but just simply because he ran out of the ability to
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  do it, or he just you know, like functionally didn't wasn't capable of
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  It's it's almost like it's a failure of him morally rather than a failure in
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  terms of his just physical ability, you know, just being a person who
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  just can't do it. You see what I'm saying. It's like. And
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  I think it also ties into women's inability to see men's vulnerabilities because they they
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  conceive of them almost like immorality, Like if a man fails, it isn't
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  because he tried, it's because he didn't want to do it, he didn't
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  want to help women. And there's this this this absence in understanding men as
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  people and an absence of understanding that the system has to be maintained and it
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  in many cases it needs sacrifice or at least a willingness to work hard,
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  and all of this sort of combines to create a voting block that thinks the
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  system is infinite, like it's just the big black box that gives you whatever
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  you want. You just hit a button, it comes out. You hit
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  a button and it comes out. And men sort of are complicit with this
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  too, because men very rarely explain to women the cost of things. You
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  don't sit down to a twelve year old, thirty year old girl and show
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  her pictures of World War One and World War Two and said, you see
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  this dollar that you're spending. You see the power of what you can buy
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  with this These men sacrificed for that, That's where it came from. And
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  if you don't protect that sacrifice, we're going to be right back there because
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  it, you know, like the whole hegemony of the West. I mean,
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  I could get into the details. I don't know. You look a
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  little you look like like I'm losing you there, Brian nom I'm following.
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  I just no, go ahead and finish. Like the reason why the US
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  dollar became so pre eminent is because of the reconstruction after World War Two and
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  because they basically won right, so it's all of this history of sacrifice that
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  leads them to the prosperous society that we enjoy and the system that maintains it,
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  and they don't aren't given any clue about any of it. Like people
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  don't sick girls down and say, you have to understand this, You have
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  to understand the sacrifice of men in the past, you have to understand the
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  sacrifice of soldiers around the world today to maintain what you enjoy. Instead,
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  they're handed this narrative that they're entitled and that they have been cheated by society,
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  that society has cheated them, and that if society really cared about them,
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  it would give them even more, and not just them, it would
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  give them all of the little minority groups that are so vulnerable and innocent and
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  pink and chubby like little little infants, all of them. It would give
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  them everything they need too, you know, and the world would just be
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  a utopia of hugs and smiles and cradles and warm, fleecy blankets, you
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  know, And nobody explains to them that there are limitations, you know.
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  So we have this voting block that doesn't understand, that doesn't conceive of itself
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  and This is another thing. Women don't think of themselves in terms of what
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  they need to do to maintain the system. And I know there are women
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  out there like, oh my god, but I do know the biggest philosophical
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  movement for women is about what the system owes women, not what women owe
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  the system, you know, what women owe society, What women owe the
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  community, their families, their husbands, their children. Right, we've got
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  more of a we got more of a dialogue over what women owe their dogs
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  and cats than any of the humans in their life, you know. And
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  then and and we we can't even talk about that because that's blaming women,
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  you know, and that is the big problem. If women were like,
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  Okay, maybe we are doing something like collectively, there's something we need to
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  get a rain on, we need to go get a hold on, or
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  maybe even individual women said, you know, maybe you have a point there,
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  Maybe there's something that we need to if you think that the issues that
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  democrats push, which essentially is that black box thinking that thinking that, well,
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  if we're not serving minorities, it's because the system, you know,
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  is being oppressive and not giving them the things that that white straight head men
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  are given. Right, you know, that's what's happening. But that's that
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  idea is both like it's it's it assumes that what we deal with or what
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  we are, our communities are, our society has the ability to give everybody
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  everything that they need and and chooses not to, and that kind of sense
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  of entitlement. It never gets into the thinking of well what do I owe?
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  It's always what am I owed? And so we have a voting block
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  that's constantly talking in that way and assuming that the system can can underwrite everything
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  that they decide, like you can bring in you can bring in all the
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  population of the earth into the US, and then it'll be fine, no
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  problem, because the box will just will just puke out more stuff and everybody
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  will be fleecy blankets and smiles and rattles and warm, warm sippy cups full
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  of milk for eternity. And it's like, no, that's not how it
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  works. There are limitations to resources, Like you've got immigrants in Canada that
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  are sort of waking up to that. They're calling it the shitty buffet,
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  like it's an infinite buffet, but they're no, there's a huge buffet,
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  but they're letting an infinite peace people. So yeah, it's like and that's
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  a problem, and we can't even begin to discuss it. Well, guess
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  what, it doesn't matter if men are hurting your feelings. What they're talking
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  about are hard realities that are coming fast and they're starting to see them.
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  They're starting to see the collapse of everything. Like Saudi Arabia hasn't renewed its
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  agreement with the US, so petro dollars sort of up in the air,
• 26:30
  you know, the bricks. Nations are moving more and more to an independent
• 26:33
  economy. This is stuff that should be concerning to anybody who relies on the
• 26:41
  US scholar being the world reserve currency. And I don't mean just the US,
• 26:45
  I mean the whole West relies on that. We're basically all subsidiaries of
• 26:49
  the US dollar. And anybody who understands that that should be concerning. And
• 26:56
  men are concerned because they know if the system collapse, says this woman,
• 27:00
  she ain't gonna be sitting on a couch being interviewed as an expert on women.
• 27:06
  She's going to be on a street corner selling her ass for cheese,
• 27:14
  Okay. And that's if she's lucky. If she's unlucky, she's going to
• 27:18
  be starving to death or a war casual like a casualty, a civilian casualty
• 27:23
  of war. I mean maybe not in the States, but you know,
• 27:27
  like there are meat hook realities to all of this. You can't keep asking
• 27:32
  for you can't keep asking the system to provide for you without anything, without
• 27:38
  ever thinking about how you maintain it. It's like expecting your car to run
• 27:44
  with and never do any preventive maintenance on it, or any maintenance whatsoever.
• 27:51
  All right, let's play some more of the video maintenances. So anyway,
• 27:53
  we're blaming men, we're blaming women for everything. Guys, did you catch
• 27:56
  up? Did you did you hear the latest? Women are always being blamed?
• 28:00
  All right, let's listen. I think is absurd. Why do you
• 28:03
  think it's happened? I'm sure that these guys are going to push back real
• 28:07
  hard on that opening. Two questions. A. Do you think it reflects
• 28:11
  in any way like the normal person on the street, because I'd probably argue
• 28:15
  it doesn't in a way I want to say it doesn't. I don't think
• 28:18
  most people would say we should repeal the Nineteenth but I think I think most,
• 28:25
  especially young men, I think if you ask them who's Andrew Tate?
• 28:27
  They would know that answer. I think they've seen his content, They've digested
• 28:32
  this content. And so often when the topic of Andrew Tate comes up,
• 28:36
  I always say, Insertate's not the problem, because if you take Andrew Tate
• 28:40
  away, you still have this massive group of young men who were clinging to
• 28:44
  that message because I think, for whatever reason, men do not really have
• 28:48
  role models or anybody to guide them in any For whatever reason, what could
• 28:55
  it possibly be that men don't have role models? Why are they so angry?
• 29:00
  I don't know why, but I certainly know that we shouldn't help them,
• 29:04
  and we should also shame them and isolate them more because Andrew Tate.
• 29:11
  And then to wonder why there's more, anditates like, good God, what
• 29:19
  happens when we refuse to give the whole population men of men water? Look
• 29:25
  at them going to the water Tait, who gives them all water? God?
• 29:30
  Well, what do you expect? What do you freaking expect? If
• 29:33
  you are not going to provide an essential and critical aspect of human need,
• 29:40
  which is a positive some kind of positive identity. If you're not going to
• 29:42
  provide that, then they're going to find it somewhere, just like if you
• 29:47
  if you turn off all the taps and you make it so men can't get
• 29:51
  water, which is not actually that far fetched. In ancient societies, it
• 29:55
  used to be just women could use the fountains in the city. If you
• 29:59
  turn off all the t and refuse to allow men to use water, they're
• 30:03
  going to flock to whoever gives them water. And then you complain, well,
• 30:07
  this guy, well, how dare how dare It's like, well,
• 30:11
  well, maybe consider not withdrawing a human need from men that's so critical.
• 30:18
  Like anyway, she does later on point out that she does realize that men
• 30:25
  have a problem, right, that they're going through something, but she offers
• 30:29
  no solution. This is the thing I've noticed with these with these people,
• 30:36
  they only have complaints, they only have observations. They only respond when it
• 30:41
  gets to a point where it makes them uncomfortable, but they offer no solutions.
• 30:47
  M anyway, back to the yeah, back to the video though.
• 30:51
  Anyway, So Andrew Tate is the loudest in saying these things, and then
• 30:56
  I think there's these folks in the right wing, like Charlie kirkor clinging onto
• 30:59
  it because they see it's popular and they're grifting off of that narrative. So
• 31:03
  all of a sudden, Charlie Kirk, who runs one of the most important
• 31:07
  organizations on the right, you know, they're bringing in millions and millions of
• 31:10
  dollars. All of a sudden, he's repeating these anentertadisms that you know,
• 31:14
  women should not really repay the fact that women know a Democrat she's just not
• 31:18
  going to do that, is she No, I don't, well, I
• 31:22
  think she just said earlier, women vote more. It's it's almost like she's
• 31:26
  still blaming men because they're not, you know, like they're not voting more
• 31:30
  or something. Okay, what's the candidate who's is like water to the men?
• 31:37
  Where's the water to the men? Candidate? Like I mean, I
• 31:41
  mean, yeah, no, there is nothing. There's nothing like you know,
• 31:45
  you were talking about how you know, there's all of these things going
• 31:51
  on with with our economy, with the petro dollar, with you know,
• 31:56
  these foreign wars that like, you know, men in the West don't want
• 31:59
  to get dragged into. They don't want to end up paying for all of
• 32:02
  these issues, you know, and the and the number one thing that the
• 32:07
  Democrats are pushing right now to essentially lock down the female vote. It doesn't
• 32:14
  matter if they're single, it doesn't matter if they're married, it doesn't matter
• 32:16
  if they don't have any kids, or if they have a bunch of kids.
• 32:20
  The only thing they're using is Roe v. Wade, and I know
• 32:22
  it's gonna be effective. They're gonna use abortion, they're gonna use bodily women's
• 32:28
  autonomy, whatever, my body, my choice. They're gonna weaponize the shit
• 32:30
  out of that. And it is working and it's the only thing they have
• 32:34
  to run on. They could let everything else go to shit and women,
• 32:36
  this is the thing women will vote on. That they will they will say,
• 32:40
  yes, I'm gonna do it, even though I'm even if it's a
• 32:44
  woman who is one hundred percent responsible with her you know sexuality, who is
• 32:47
  very careful about like whether or not she has kids who are or raises them
• 32:52
  responsibly, it doesn't matter. She's on team women. She will team up
• 32:55
  with the most like irresponsible, loose, like careless women because they are women.
• 33:02
  And that's what they'll do. Like it's a guarantee, and this is
• 33:07
  it. You know, it works because the Dems don't have to talk about
• 33:09
  anything else. They don't have to talk about. They could literally be pro
• 33:13
  war and they are openly pro war. We have to finish, you know
• 33:16
  what's going yeah, or openly yep, open policy yep. And it doesn't
• 33:22
  matter because the ladies, we got you. You're gonna be able to get
• 33:28
  all the abortions, all of them, and women will vote for that because
• 33:31
  and also vote for more free shit, more gibbs, why is it?
• 33:36
  You know? I went through on Honey Badger Arcade. I went through everything
• 33:39
  in Project twenty twenty five that all of these women, most of them leftist
• 33:45
  women, but a lot of conservative women too, were freaking out. They
• 33:49
  were having a panic attack, and I was like, Okay, I want
• 33:51
  to see if this is as bad as they said. Nothing in there is
• 33:53
  unreasonable. It's all about like we're gonna shrink the government here, we're gonna
• 33:58
  shrink the government. Here, We're gonna shrink the government here, We're gonna
• 34:00
  get rid of the Department of Education. We're gonna cut down on this spending.
• 34:04
  We're gonna cut down that spending. And I'm like, yeah, that
• 34:06
  seems reasonable, and women are like, oh my god, I'm no longer
• 34:08
  going to get free shit. Well guess what it's not free, like it
• 34:12
  was never free. We're trying to like salvage what's left and shrink things down
• 34:16
  as much as possible. That's all right, and I meanwhile, meanwhile,
• 34:21
  the American government is now automatically registering men eighteen to twenty five for selective service
• 34:30
  because they're they're not gonna be able to make conscription targets. Yeah, And
• 34:37
  the thing is, what's but what's the conversation about. It's not about that.
• 34:39
  It's about women now have to register. Every everybody's freaking out about this
• 34:45
  now. And it's like, yeah, but men are automatically getting registered,
• 34:47
  Like do you remember what happened in Ukraine when they went to war and people
• 34:51
  were like the draft that never happens. And there's like guys that are like
• 34:53
  in their forties that have to fight, yeah, and they're gonna die.
• 34:58
  Yeah, it's unbelievable, Like that's that's fifty year old men, fifteen six
• 35:02
  year old men going to war while able bodied women children sit in there and
• 35:10
  and on their own asses, not not not sacrificing for the system. Well,
• 35:19
  a lot of them just leave and marry guys in Germany, they don't,
• 35:22
  They just like leave their husbands and they just start new lives. That's
• 35:25
  happening a lot too, fricking believe. That's just that just astounds me.
• 35:30
  So, and what you're describing is essentially women are in the grip of a
• 35:37
  threat narrative about the Republican Party about recognizing that the system itself needs to be
• 35:45
  maintained. I mean, really, the two the two parties where the Republicans
• 35:50
  aren't just basically neo CON's pursuing the same kind of government corporate collusion. I
• 35:58
  mean, the two parties on the on the on the populus level are basically
• 36:02
  women demanding resources for for monolithic infant classes and men trying to maintain the ability
• 36:09
  to provide. Yeah, and nobody, absolutely nobody understand has it has the
• 36:17
  single moment to spare to recognize men as people? Yes, because that's basically
• 36:25
  it. It's basically just a woman demanding stuff and the man saying, can
• 36:30
  we can you just give me the resources to do it? And those that's
• 36:37
  the two parties. Yeah, well at least the reasonable ones, the reasonable
• 36:40
  ones, right or not not reasonable. But that's what like, like you
• 36:45
  said, when you remove like the the war mongering rhinos and neo libs.
• 36:50
  Then yeah, that's what you got. You got women with their handout and
• 36:52
  men going, well, we got to figure out how we want to give
• 36:55
  you this stuff, but let's try to be yeah, let's your camera.
• 37:02
  Your camera froze out. And again they've put in and they've made the situation
• 37:07
  where men will are like, well, let's be reasonable about how to get
• 37:12
  this to you. You know, give us the ability to pay taxes,
• 37:16
  to make money to pay taxes, because otherwise, you know, where where's
• 37:21
  the money going to come from. Do you think the people who are printing
• 37:23
  it are just going to hand it to you. No, they're they're enjoying
• 37:27
  being able to print it for themselves. So you know, let's uh,
• 37:30
  let's let's attend to the ability to make a tax tax base, and and
• 37:35
  the women are like, well, what we want to spend it, you
• 37:37
  know, and and reducing government. It is attending to the ability to construct
• 37:42
  a tax space. But that becomes that becomes a threat to women, you
• 37:46
  see, so that they're in the grips of a threat narrative about a reasonable
• 37:52
  request. Two just can we can we just have the resources to do your
• 37:59
  demand? And the threat narrative is that and it's it's constructed with the patriarchy
• 38:04
  because again, like I was telling you about the black box, thinking,
• 38:07
  when the black box doesn't provide, it isn't because it can't because it's not
• 38:12
  a real person with vulnerabilities. It's because it won't. It's because it hates
• 38:15
  you. Right, So, when men are like saying, hey, wait,
• 38:17
  can we can we think about how to get the resources to do what
• 38:22
  you want, women are hearing I hate you, I hate you our gots,
• 38:27
  I want you to suffer. I will destroy you. And men are
• 38:32
  just like, but can we just we just are trying to figure out how
• 38:37
  to make it happen. That's not what women are hearing. What they're hearing
• 38:43
  is the patriarchy is denying them, and it's denying them because it hates them.
• 38:49
  And how do you get women out of this? You can't. You
• 38:54
  cannot continue to feed the paranoia and the phobia and the threat narrative. You
• 39:02
  can't continue to feed it. The I think the only way you can get
• 39:06
  women out of this is just to repeat over and over and over again.
• 39:10
  Men are people. They have limitations, They cannot earn, they can't underwrite
• 39:19
  everything. Right there are we're already looking at another draft because the the world
• 39:25
  reserve. And then you know, the real reason why is because the world
• 39:29
  reserve curvency is getting shaky. And and it was always always like that Highland
• 39:35
  quote, everything is about comes down to violence. It was always always preserved
• 39:39
  because Americans said they would go in and make peace, right, they would,
• 39:45
  they would, they would back it with their military might. That's that's
• 39:50
  always been the basis of it, right, And because it's getting shaky,
• 39:53
  things like that are getting called up again, you know. And and I
• 40:00
  honestly, I just can't believe that the fact that men are having this conversation
• 40:04
  about what is going on when they are going to have to pay for the
• 40:07
  political choices of women, Like I mean right again, right, I know
• 40:12
  I'm granting a lot, but right in blood, in blood, yeah,
• 40:15
  men are going to have to pay for this woman's political choices with their lives.
• 40:22
  Like if you screw up the system and the US is it loses what
• 40:28
  it's gained. It may come down to men having to fight and die again
• 40:34
  to re establish it. And you are making these decisions and they are written
• 40:39
  in men's blood. And you have a problem with men saying, hey,
• 40:44
  hey, wait, you know, at the very lea, can you be
• 40:46
  responsible? Can we have a discussion about the decisions that women are making and
• 40:52
  the fact that every problem that you have on the right, you know,
• 40:55
  it's it's me it's basically because women are per suing leftist policies, they can
• 41:02
  you have this discussion. But I mean, let's take it away out of
• 41:05
  the realm of politics. Men are saying these political decisions women are making,
• 41:13
  we're going to have to We're going to have to cover with our blood.
• 41:19
  We're going to have to live and die by these political decisions that women are
• 41:22
  making, and they don't have any consideration for our situation and what we are
• 41:30
  capable of or what even eve when we want to have to offer up for
• 41:36
  their political choices, you know. And it's astounding to me that the discussion
• 41:42
  of this revolves around women's sense of upset and offense rather than the fact that
• 41:49
  women like this are making political choices that men's blood has to pay for and
• 41:55
  nobody wants to talk about it. Nope, all right back to this,
• 42:01
  Yeah, that's what this is. This is why I was saying I thought
• 42:06
  it was a decent video because again, it drives home this idea that women
• 42:15
  who claim to be rational, conservative or libertarian or whatever, and they oppose
• 42:21
  the sort of woke feminist women, they're not that far off, Like they're
• 42:25
  not like she's essentially on here. Tone policing. That's all this is is
• 42:30
  tone policing. So let's listen to her tone police some more. And Charlie
• 42:35
  Kirk, who is basically suggesting that women consider having a family like that football
• 42:39
  player that did that speech that had again conservative women freaking out because conservative women
• 42:45
  are not conservative. They're not, so let's stop pretending they are, and
• 42:50
  let's just call them feminists. They're just second wave feminists. That's all it
• 42:53
  is. They're second wave feminists, maybe even third wave. His organization was
• 42:57
  built on women sacrificing their twenties and working at his organization. It's fundamentally absurd.
• 43:02
  You know that he's spending his time as someone who's that important on the
• 43:07
  right to say, well, you know what, women, if you don't
• 43:08
  get married in your twenties, you're you're less desirable at thirty. This is
• 43:13
  a man who married his wife at thirty one. Yes, so what,
• 43:16
  like, how did we get into again? How are we getting into?
• 43:21
  Andrew Tate, and Andrew Tate's relationships and who well this is Charlie Kirk.
• 43:24
  But yeah, she's just gossip. It is what I'm saying, this is
• 43:30
  let me put this into what it is. This is gossip. This is
• 43:34
  not the discussion matter of someone who is a serious person. This gossip.
• 43:40
  Can we move off of the gossip? No offense to you, Brian,
• 43:44
  No offense, Like I'm not I'm not upseting. I could skip to the
• 43:45
  next party. This is kind of like, I want to get to more
• 43:50
  gossip about Andrew Tate women versus's and I really want to have sex with Andrew
• 43:54
  Tate. But I just Andrew Tate, Andrew Tate no more. He's he's
• 43:59
  irrelevant. I mean, he's not. They're only they're using him as a
• 44:04
  scarecrow to talk about the rest of us. That's all so like, there's
• 44:08
  no point in responding to that. It's I you know I did. I
• 44:14
  did an interview with guy yesterday. You sent me his email and I talked
• 44:20
  to him and he brought up Andrew Tate, and he said, well,
• 44:22
  you know, I kind of had to talk about this, but and I
• 44:25
  told him, look, you know, there if if if people had been
• 44:29
  listening to us, there would be no Andrew Tate. So now there is
• 44:32
  so you got you gotta contend with that. I don't know what to tell
• 44:36
  you. Maybe change the conversation, maybe maybe stop attacking like the only thing
• 44:39
  that men are going towards. Maybe offer them an alternative, and then we'll,
• 44:45
  you know, we'll go from there. But like if you're just gonna
• 44:46
  keep on, you know, going on this treadmill and saying, man,
• 44:50
  the new guy, I don't like the new guy, and then there will
• 44:53
  There was another guy. He seemed nice, but we stopped talking to him
• 44:57
  and we ignored him. Now we got a new guy. He's kind of
• 44:59
  an asshole. We're gonna get rid of him, and there's gonna be another
• 45:00
  new guy. Guess what, he's gonna be worse than the last guy because
• 45:05
  you're not you're just so concerned with how people sound to you that you're not
• 45:09
  actually listening to the root of what they're asking. Yes, you're not listening
• 45:14
  to what they say, you're listening to how they say it, and that's
• 45:16
  that's you know, it's not gonna pay off this way. What we're talking
• 45:21
  about here are solutions things to consider, you know, what Andrew Tate and
• 45:27
  these other commentators are talking about with repeal the nineteenth Well, how the only
• 45:31
  way it's gonna happen is if society collapses, and that's that is not the
• 45:37
  outcome we want. Let's just put it that way. So I mean,
• 45:42
  yeah, sure we can. We can talk about that, or we can
• 45:45
  talk about what needs to change and maybe hopefully forestall the collapse of the most
• 45:53
  prosperous system in human history. All right, let's keep going. All right,
• 45:59
  let's watch some more. This is the question I was going to ask
• 46:00
  you for me. I've said this for a very long time, and I
• 46:04
  said this about there was a moment, probably five or six years ago when
• 46:07
  sort of like these really dumb feminist narratives were rampaging through the culture. You
• 46:13
  know, the air conditioning in office buildings is sexist, and likewise, now
• 46:19
  when you see the opposite thing, where it's like anyone who wants to put
• 46:24
  a wedge between men and women is not Is this not a healthy influence in
• 46:30
  our society? So okay, all right, but there's so you don't okay,
• 46:38
  you read both sides. You recognize that feminists did all of this,
• 46:45
  and how it's not just been last year. They keep doing it, and
• 46:47
  they're they've been doing it for hundreds of years. Dude. Yeah, So
• 46:52
  women put or sorry, feminists put this wedge between men and women. And
• 46:59
  because men are now acting like the wedge that feminists put there exists, it's
• 47:04
  their fault. No, no, men do not want a wedge. As
• 47:09
  far as I can tell, they would not have willingly chose to construct this
• 47:14
  wedge. You know, if it was up to men, this probably wouldn't
• 47:17
  have happened. You know, there wouldn't have been a society wide philosophy to
• 47:22
  blame all women as constructing a matriarchy for the sacrifice of men. But here's
• 47:27
  the thing, Like, you know, and again, I'm a woman.
• 47:30
  I'm just speaking, and I know that I'm speaking on behalf of men,
• 47:35
  and I know that can be annoying, But all I can say is,
• 47:38
  as a woman looking at the situation for men, I would be livid that
• 47:45
  there is a voting block of women who has absolutely no sense of my limitations
• 47:52
  as a person, but expects me to underwrite their choices in blood. And
• 47:59
  this is becoming more and more prevalent, Like it's there's no denying it now.
• 48:04
  They are now putting all men on selective service because of the conscription issue.
• 48:08
  So it's moving towards once again American men, Western men being expected to
• 48:15
  sacrifice their lives to maintain the system, which has been has been the expectation
• 48:20
  of men throughout all of human history. And if I were a man facing
• 48:23
  that, I would be pissed. I would be pissed that a group of
• 48:29
  people, a voting block, has the ability to make the decisions of decisions
• 48:34
  about the system for which I will have to sacrifice my life to pay to
• 48:40
  to try to maintain. So you are going to overburden the system like you
• 48:45
  are going to you have a car, You're going to drive it without doing
• 48:47
  an oil change, without doing any kind of preventative maintenance. You're going to
• 48:52
  drive it into the ground. And then when it needs something, that something
• 48:55
  is going to have to be paid for by men, and you know,
• 49:00
  and it's even worse than that, because it's going to be with our lives
• 49:02
  that have to pay for it, you know. But you get to make
• 49:06
  the choices. Men get to pay the bill. And that is like I
• 49:09
  can only say this as a woman looking out it from the outside, looking
• 49:14
  in as I guess a masculine woman who has a sympathy for men this entire
• 49:21
  situation. If I was in it, I would probably be less polite about
• 49:25
  it, because it is sick and it is disgusting. It is repulsive.
• 49:32
  It is repulsive that we have a massive voting block that is not expected to
• 49:42
  put its skin in the game and is making all the decisions now, and
• 49:45
  all of the decisions are just putting more pressure on the system. Let's open
• 49:51
  the floodgates. Let's open the floodgates in the US and bring in everybody in
• 49:55
  the world and see if that works. And if it doesn't work, if
• 50:00
  that crashes everything, we'll just send our men to war. Hohm ha ha
• 50:05
  ha. I'man just a little girl. What can I hear? Like?
• 50:07
  This is this is sick shit. This is some really sick, dystopian shit.
• 50:15
  And I think men have every right to talk about it because and and
• 50:20
  the fact is that we are talking about women repeal the nineteenth and we're not
• 50:24
  talking about the conscription issue, not talking about all men now being put on
• 50:29
  selective service if they're under a certain age, you know, between certain ages,
• 50:32
  like all men are now there, Yeah, eighteen to twenty six.
• 50:36
  I think they're doing it. Yeah, they're gearing up to be They're gearing
• 50:39
  up and they want to be able to identify as many men as possible because
• 50:44
  they know men. They know men won't don't want to die for this country.
• 50:47
  No, they don't want to because this country has Yeah, they it
• 50:52
  hates them, so like now they're just going to force them. So,
• 50:55
  yeah, that's what it is. This is what this is the sitution,
• 51:00
  and nobody's talking about that. Trigonometry chooses to bring a woman on to talk
• 51:04
  about how women are offended by the fact that men are looking at the situation
• 51:07
  and saying, hey, this system, if this, when this system starts
• 51:10
  to collapse, my ass is going to be on a battlefield with a rifle
• 51:15
  in my hands. You're gonna be sitting at home, you know, screwing
• 51:20
  the conscientious objectors. I'm gonna be killing, being killing, or dying when
• 51:24
  this system collapses, and you guys are making decisions that will hasten the end,
• 51:30
  that hasten me to the battlefield. And I just like the fact the
• 51:36
  fact that this is being framed in terms of all women are offended. Well,
• 51:40
  when are you not like before? Before I said, we will be
• 51:45
  obsolete when there's a female advocate who goes up on stage and says, yeah,
• 51:50
  women are doing pretty good. Let's go Uh, maybe men need like
• 51:53
  a politician it goes up on stage and says, well, women are actually
• 51:57
  doing pretty good. Maybe we should pay attention to men. Just one politician,
• 52:00
  but a majority who actually admit that women are doing okay relative to men.
• 52:06
  You know, that's when we would be obsolete. But I just can't
• 52:10
  believe that this is this is like, it's always about women's offense, isn't
• 52:15
  it always always you know, we're you know, I'm sorry, but the
• 52:19
  car breaking down isn't really about your offense, and your offense is going to
• 52:22
  change nothing about it. Let's play more for me? Is where do you
• 52:28
  think this male thing is now coming from? I just again, I think
• 52:32
  it's really attractive to a really dumb population. I think men, and especially
• 52:38
  those who are you know, men are having less sex than ever. It's
• 52:42
  really easy to blame women for things that are going wrong right now. It's
• 52:45
  really easy to point to that and say it's women's fault that the country is
• 52:50
  going you know, down the toylet it's women's fault. That I'm not getting
• 52:52
  laid. It's women's fault that I am alone. I think it's a lot
• 52:55
  easier to say that than to self analyze what they're not doing right. Well,
• 53:01
  you know, oh really, all right, do you want to say
• 53:07
  anything about that? Because I saw you laugh. You're mute at Allison,
• 53:13
  women are the majority of the electorate. When are you going to take responsibility
• 53:16
  for that? When are you going to take responsibility for what women are deciding
• 53:22
  to pursue politically? Okay, when is that going to happen? And when
• 53:28
  are you going to take responsibility for the fact that your political decisions ultimately end
• 53:32
  with men's ass on the line? Yeah, everything is about her offense,
• 53:40
  Everything is about but men need to blame themselves more like that he's been done.
• 53:46
  You see what I think is happening. I think that men are raising
• 53:52
  grievances online. And because she doesn't think that's the way men should air,
• 53:59
  like they should talk about their problems, like they shouldn't complain, she finds
• 54:05
  that feminine coming from men and she's disgusted by it. So she's disgusted by
• 54:09
  men expressing themselves and saying, you know, I think there's a problem and
• 54:15
  I think it's coming from women because women are unaccountable. And instead of again
• 54:20
  she's projecting, she's saying, oh, like, you know, instead of
• 54:23
  complaining about women, they should probably take a step back and look at them
• 54:27
  their own actions and you know, see what they're doing. He's like,
• 54:30
  eh, I mean maybe not you personally, but can you look at what
• 54:34
  is going on here in the world. It's not like men are like,
• 54:37
  oh, nobody's touching my pepe. I think I want to destroy society.
• 54:40
  No, that's not it. But like, why why would men fight and
• 54:45
  die for a country that hates them and a population of women that think less
• 54:50
  of them, that just see them as as not people like most of the
• 54:53
  time, why would men do that? So and then those women vote only
• 54:59
  for what they want. Well, I just want this thing. I'm just
• 55:00
  gonna vote for that, and then the right wing women back them up.
• 55:04
  You go girl, you know, And when when Charlie Kirk suggests, well,
• 55:07
  maybe women should should settle down becausidered being a wife and a mother,
• 55:12
  which is a completely it's not even like a radical position at all. It's
• 55:15
  a normal, like fucking basic bitch conservative position. And these women are like,
• 55:22
  oh, oh, but I was girl bossing. I was in my
• 55:23
  twenties. What are you saying? You know? And it's like, actually,
• 55:29
  biology is a reality. You should look at it. It's not offensive
• 55:31
  to just have the conversation. But women are so unaccustomed to men calling them
• 55:38
  out on anything that they just lose their mind. I mean, I kill
• 55:43
  our society. Yes, literally, it's gonna be this population that only ever
• 55:49
  asks or only ever demands and does not see like that. We've essentially given
• 55:54
  control over the system to a group of people who only know how to ask
• 55:59
  things from it, not how to maintain it, not how to build it,
• 56:02
  and they have no sense of sacrifice to it because it's never been in
• 56:07
  their worldview. And this was like, this is something you know, honestly,
• 56:10
  how did we not see this coming when women got the vote without the
• 56:15
  ultimate responsibility to the state of dying in war? Like, I mean,
• 56:21
  honestly, this is this is why I'm sure this is why groups of disenfranchised
• 56:24
  men were excluded from the vote until they demonstrated that they were willing to sacrifice
• 56:30
  everything for the system, because they needed to have that attitude of we're all
• 56:36
  going to maintain this thing that we all get something from And yes, I
• 56:39
  know the system as it is is sort of shit now, like it's and
• 56:45
  most of it comes because they, you know, the people on top can
• 56:47
  just print money. They need to just print monopoly money, you know,
• 56:51
  And and that basically is a tax on all of us. And it's it's
• 56:54
  a it's a permanent it's a permanent class system. Yeah, but it's the
• 57:00
  currency itself. But at the same time, but it's men that want to
• 57:02
  undo that, and women are not voting for that. So what like there
• 57:07
  is the men are aware that there are problems with the system. That's why
• 57:10
  they tried to make like you know, Ron Paul happen back in the day,
• 57:15
  and it just didn't because women were like, but that doesn't sound like
• 57:17
  something I want. Well. The difference is that men think of a problem
• 57:22
  in the system as Okay, what's that knocking stun in the car? Okay,
• 57:25
  well, what's that what's that light indicating? You know, okay,
• 57:29
  I something, there's a there's too much you know, there's a there's a
• 57:32
  there's a an energy you know, like there's the belt is slipping. Whatever.
• 57:37
  They think about problems in the system, like the car has an issue
• 57:42
  that needs to be fixed women, apparently, as far as I can tell,
• 57:45
  because I have not seen evidence of the contrary. Think about problems of
• 57:50
  the system in terms of the car can't get me to my hair appointment.
• 57:53
  Yes, yeah, so it's again it's that different way of thinking. And
• 58:00
  like, I don't know if it's inherent, but it's always about offense.
• 58:04
  It's always about what the system owes you. Well, here's the thing,
• 58:07
  and I want women to understand this. You know, the system does not
• 58:15
  have to exist forever, and it won't if you demand too much from it.
• 58:20
  So ultimately, at the end of the day, the system is people,
• 58:23
  and the system is mostly men. It's men who are maintaining the infrastructure,
• 58:29
  the utilities, the stuff that we require to survive. That it's men's
• 58:34
  work is now no longer optional, you know, And and it doesn't matter
• 58:38
  if there are men also in the air conditioned, you know, white collar
• 58:42
  men in the air conditioned and in many cases they are doing a lot of
• 58:45
  the non optional work too. Right there, they are controlling the system that
• 58:52
  controls the guys who are on the ground doing the utilities. But that's the
• 58:57
  thing, Like, it's it's not optional. We have to care about men
• 59:04
  because the system is right now constructed from men's labor. The most essential part
• 59:08
  of our system is constructed from men's labor, and we need to care about
• 59:13
  them. We need to understand their needs, and we need to recognize them
• 59:15
  as people right that there are limitations in what they can accomplish, and that
• 59:20
  doesn't make them evil, that doesn't mean they hate you. Because this is
• 59:23
  what women hear when they say, well, we have limitations. Oh,
• 59:28
  you hate us because you won't do it. No, it's not because men
• 59:30
  hate you. It's because they're fucking people, and people have limitations. The
• 59:35
  system ultimately comes down to the labor of people, and people are not gods.
• 59:40
  They can't do everything. I know. It's astounding what this civilization has
• 59:45
  managed to accomplish, and I honestly think most women they don't even begin to
• 59:52
  understand the immense complexity and of the cooperation that then have built to make the
• 1:00:00
  society function right and how fragile that is ultimately, and they don't even understand
• 1:00:07
  their own role in all of it because they don't listen to anyone and they
• 1:00:13
  won't take any kind of criticism anyway. Keeps quite more, what society as
• 1:00:20
  a whole is not doing right. I think there's a lot we have a
• 1:00:22
  loneliness epidemic, we have, you know, a confidence epidemic. I think
• 1:00:27
  there's more people than not on both sides, whether it's men or women,
• 1:00:30
  who are just fundamentally crawling out of their own skin. They have no sense
• 1:00:34
  of identity. It's not really I think especially my generation Gen Z and even
• 1:00:40
  millennials, they're defined by narcissism, which I don't think that's accurate at all.
• 1:00:45
  And Bo Burnham, if you're familiar with Bob Burnham, he speaks about
• 1:00:49
  this and he puts it really succinctly. He says, you know, it's
• 1:00:53
  not narcissism, it's actually this generation is like a hyper consciousness of self.
• 1:00:59
  It's the first generation that has social media and this performative nature where it's like,
• 1:01:04
  you want to perform this is the market's answer. Now, perform everything
• 1:01:07
  all the time for everybody. And they're sitting back and watching their life as
• 1:01:12
  a satisfied audience member, which is so dystopient. So it's not like this
• 1:01:15
  narcissism, it's it's hyper consciousness of self. And I think we're more insecure
• 1:01:21
  than we've ever been despite you know, looking in the mirror more than we
• 1:01:23
  ever have I necessarily secure people. No, that's what she said. Yeah,
• 1:01:34
  so everything is a performance. M h. And how is how is
• 1:01:42
  this supposed to be fixed out solutions? Okay, all right, well I
• 1:01:47
  think they're changing subjects. I think that was just kind of to me.
• 1:01:51
  That's just bumper stick or platitude shit like oh social media. Oh you know,
• 1:01:55
  oh, it's the current, it's modern, it's it's but you can't
• 1:01:59
  we can't really explain it. You know, it really does not like blame.
• 1:02:04
  That's that's what that's it, right, It's society guys. You know
• 1:02:07
  when women say society, they mean women, right, because when they meet,
• 1:02:12
  when they mean men, they just say men. But when they mean
• 1:02:14
  women they say society. This is like what I deflect? Yeah, yeah,
• 1:02:17
  as all it's everybody. What are you talking about? It's not just
• 1:02:20
  me, it's everybody, it's you. You know, well do you agree?
• 1:02:22
  Okay, we have blamed men for for one hundred years now, and
• 1:02:28
  men have attempted to make the changes requested of them. You know. Uh,
• 1:02:32
  the latest blame is we're afraid of you. We don't want you to
• 1:02:36
  approach them. Now in two years, ten percent of men have ceased to
• 1:02:39
  do so. You know, so men are doing you know, you blame
• 1:02:45
  men. Men attempt to make the changes requested. And now we're at a
• 1:02:51
  point where it's almost impossible to blame men any further. We're we're basically blaming
• 1:02:59
  what we're We're in a suit situation where the majority female electorate makes these decisions,
• 1:03:02
  we're still blaming men for them, and it's not really working. And
• 1:03:07
  then there's a group of men who are finally waking up and saying, hey,
• 1:03:10
  maybe the fact that women are the majority electorate means they're actually responsible for
• 1:03:16
  the political decisions they make. Yeah, but the women are voting. But
• 1:03:22
  the women may be voting, but men are the ones who are voted for.
• 1:03:25
  So no, but it's interesting, Actually there's a little bit of white
• 1:03:29
  pill in this. There is there, apparently is a group of men who
• 1:03:31
  are recognizing that women being the majority electorate might make them responsible for the political
• 1:03:39
  decisions that are being made today. Like, isn't that why you wanted the
• 1:03:44
  vote so you could have political influence? Like you were saying, oh,
• 1:03:47
  we're disenfranchised, we have no voice. Okay, well, here you go.
• 1:03:52
  You got a voice. Now you got even bigger voice than men.
• 1:03:54
  Does that not mean that you are the more politically powerful sex You would have
• 1:04:00
  said that when you didn't have a vote, even though there would be there
• 1:04:05
  would be lots of stuff that disagreed. But whatever, let's get going,
• 1:04:09
  let's be to you. But just to touch back on the on what's going
• 1:04:13
  on with the right. Part of the problem that I have is the left
• 1:04:16
  overuse these terms racism misogyny to the point where they don't mean anything, and
• 1:04:23
  actually people who are genuinely racist misogynistic. Go, I'm not a misogynist because
• 1:04:28
  you said ex was misogynists because he said there's two genders, right, But
• 1:04:32
  what I see on the right is actual genuine misogyny. Yes, it's a
• 1:04:36
  hatred. God. I can't stand these fucking guys because obviously when you,
• 1:04:45
  oh, I see real misogyny, I see it for real. They show
• 1:04:49
  it to me, Show it to me, because I haven't seen it.
• 1:04:53
  If you're talking about cat turd saying repeal the Nineteenth with like a troll face,
• 1:04:58
  that's not massage in the asshole like you're saying. You're making really serious
• 1:05:02
  claims about people that literally pay into a system that women thanklessly take out of
• 1:05:09
  and don't even say thank you. In fact, they just say fuck you
• 1:05:12
  as they do it. Okay, but here's here's a question. Okay.
• 1:05:16
  So essentially what they're titling misogyny is recognizing that the female electorate, like the
• 1:05:21
  majority of female voters, are basically steering the political ship. So if you
• 1:05:28
  have problems with where it's been steered, it is, well, they're the
• 1:05:31
  ones who are responsible for it, right, So we're just recognizing that.
• 1:05:35
  Now, that's misogyny. And and the people who are most destroyed by this
• 1:05:43
  men, it's particularly conservative men because probably men on the left's vast array of
• 1:05:49
  mental health issues will leave them on undraftable. Well, it's going to be
• 1:05:56
  mostly like right wing guys that are in the military and in the police force
• 1:06:00
  and stuff like that, and the ones that are healthy enough to call up
• 1:06:03
  and considering, and this is statistically true considering the sheer rate of mental illness
• 1:06:08
  on the left. They're they're going to get out because just because of that.
• 1:06:13
  But you know, so the right wing guys are the ones who are
• 1:06:15
  going to be drafted to pay for the political decisions of the the single the
• 1:06:20
  party of the monolithic party of women, right and the and and they are
• 1:06:26
  They're like, well, wait, okay, so they're the ones who are
• 1:06:30
  making all of these decisions that are leading to the destruction. Like, honestly,
• 1:06:34
  it's not a good sign when the government's like, we need to start
• 1:06:39
  looking into conscripting men, that's not a good sign. That means that something
• 1:06:45
  has has started to happen, something is starting to fall apart. When they're
• 1:06:49
  starting to say, oh, w we need to mend to throw it at
• 1:06:51
  the problem. We need some men to throw at the problem. We need
• 1:06:55
  to be able to do whatever we want to them in order to solve the
• 1:06:58
  problem. Once they do that, you know that there's a problem. There
• 1:07:00
  is something that's starting, something that's brewing. And and right wing men can
• 1:07:04
  see this and they make the logical inference, right, the problem is a
• 1:07:13
  result of political decisions. The political decisions are a result of politicians that are
• 1:07:17
  voted in by the voters who are the majority of voters. You know,
• 1:07:27
  it's like literally that like the the the causal chain is not that difficult to
• 1:07:30
  follow at all, and they have followed it, and they are the ones
• 1:07:34
  who are going to have to pay the bill. And again, the fact
• 1:07:42
  that we are are complaining about a man saying, hey, I don't want
• 1:07:45
  to pay this bill instead of the woman making the bill in the first place
• 1:07:49
  is astounding to me, Like, we can't even we can't even discuss that,
• 1:07:55
  and that is misogyny. That recognizing that women are the majority of the
• 1:07:59
  voting pop therefore they are setting the political agenda is misogyny unless we just recognize
• 1:08:09
  that it's a good thing. I suppose, yeah, let's play some more
• 1:08:15
  with the women. Yes, And I don't know that that's organic. And
• 1:08:18
  I may be stepping into my own conspiracies here, but I don't think it's
• 1:08:25
  coincidental that right before the election, the right becomes the exact caricature of what
• 1:08:30
  the left had said the right was for years and it wasn't you know,
• 1:08:33
  many of us on the right knew that the right was not, you know,
• 1:08:35
  this anti semitic, misogynistic group of folks. And now all of a
• 1:08:40
  sudden we're seeing this rise in misogynistic the medical come from I don't you know,
• 1:08:46
  I don't know. I don't know. Well, I think I think
• 1:08:49
  there did you want us to cover No, I don't We don't need to
• 1:08:53
  cover this one. She she basically makes this claim that the about because again
• 1:08:58
  there's no evidence. They're just stuff And what constitutes a right wing guy is
• 1:09:03
  just like a guy that's not feminist, I guess, because that's kind of
• 1:09:08
  like how that's what you're responding to. So if you're talking to non feminist
• 1:09:13
  men online, you're looking at a broad category of you know, some guys
• 1:09:17
  that are red pill and they're anti feminists or their migtaal or their Manisphere guys
• 1:09:24
  like Andrew Tate or Fresh and Fit or the whatever podcast. I don't know
• 1:09:27
  what those guys politics are, but she is just saying, oh, yeah,
• 1:09:30
  those are just because the feminists have said their right wing, so I'm
• 1:09:33
  gonna go with that. And maybe some of them are like, you know,
• 1:09:36
  more of a Nick Fuentes type or Groyper's that, like they have problems
• 1:09:41
  with Zionism or they're critical of Israel, but like that, she just slumps
• 1:09:46
  them in with the anti Semites as well, because why not. And this
• 1:09:50
  is it's a weird it's a weird thing because I don't really want to respond
• 1:09:56
  to that because that's not really what we deal with obviously on this channel.
• 1:09:58
  But she is trying to paint men on the right with a pretty broad brush
• 1:10:02
  while claiming that there is some kind of conspiracy to make those men into a
• 1:10:09
  straw man of the right, while also believing the straw man herself, which
• 1:10:13
  makes her look like the controlled opposition. But I digress, So I'm going
• 1:10:17
  to jump ahead to the next bit where she talks about I think it's the
• 1:10:20
  last part that I was interested in, are women are better at being oppressed?
• 1:10:28
  Which I think is a you know, could be interesting. This is
• 1:10:30
  her claim women are better at being oppressed, So so I think that's also
• 1:10:35
  part of it. I think men have been demonized. I think there's a
• 1:10:38
  war on masculinity because it threatens any system of power. But I think when
• 1:10:43
  we dive into okay, well, women are more likely to graduate, women
• 1:10:45
  do better in school. Now those are all facts. I also think women
• 1:10:48
  are just better at being oppressed and being you know, turning into these because
• 1:10:56
  who created the school system, the modern school system as we know it today.
• 1:11:00
  That was the Rockefellers. And why did they do that. That was
• 1:11:02
  because they wanted better workers, not better thinkers. And women are really good
• 1:11:05
  at that. They're like, oh, okay, I'm going to do this,
• 1:11:08
  and boys are not. As soon as they're you know, eight years
• 1:11:11
  old, seven years old, they're like, oh, well you have an
• 1:11:13
  attention disorder. We're gonna put you on riddle in or you're gonna you know,
• 1:11:16
  you're in trouble in the classroom for not sitting there and being a good
• 1:11:19
  little worker bee. And I think women are just taking better to that.
• 1:11:23
  I don't know that that has necessarily, you know, I think in women,
• 1:11:29
  yes, following naturally, I think they are. And so men have
• 1:11:34
  you know, gotten the short end of the stick when it comes to that,
• 1:11:36
  and when it comes to those systems that we have normal as well,
• 1:11:44
  I don't. I don't know if these guys are gonna hate on me for
• 1:11:46
  that. So yeah, nothing too objectionable here. I think if you can
• 1:11:55
  propose these kinds of behavioral differences, you might want to consider the effect of
• 1:12:01
  systems thinking on political on politics, and men and women's relative ability to understand
• 1:12:10
  systems or even be interested in them. I mean, maybe women can be
• 1:12:13
  interested in systems if they if their systems are explained to them in ways I'm
• 1:12:18
  fashioned that they relate to. But yeah, like that, if you are
• 1:12:25
  going to get and you are allowing for biological differences. There is a really
• 1:12:30
  big difference. And it is proven that men prefer systems, they prefer like
• 1:12:35
  tools and systems, and women prefer social interactions. And that's going to have
• 1:12:43
  an effect on what people understand, the understanding that people bring to the political
• 1:12:46
  landscape. Right, so, women are going to be much more prone to
• 1:12:50
  seeing the system in terms of how it benefits them and the people that they
• 1:12:56
  feel are short changed. Men are probably going to look more in the system
• 1:13:00
  and see how to maintain it. And that's like just it's like almost instinctive
• 1:13:04
  with men. You know, they'll just go if something is broken, they'll
• 1:13:08
  try to fix it, right they just yeah, you know, and the
• 1:13:11
  and they'll just go and they'll just look at all the parts and think about
• 1:13:14
  it. And you know, that's that's almost like it's just it's just something
• 1:13:17
  that you just see men do, and it's just it's just the way that
• 1:13:23
  they think and women are not not the same in that way. What I'm
• 1:13:29
  saying is that if you're going to introduce the issue of behavioral differences, you
• 1:13:31
  might want to look into that and howso, Yeah, and she's also leaving
• 1:13:36
  out like she's like, oh, you know, uh uh, this is
• 1:13:42
  all coming from schools and who who started schools, And then she somehow blames
• 1:13:45
  the Rockefellers, But like most teachers are women, and most women think women
• 1:13:50
  teachers have a feminist background, and those women apply that that that theology,
• 1:13:58
  because that's what it is, that that religion to their classroom, and it
• 1:14:01
  impacts boys different. That's why they get put on pills. That's why their
• 1:14:06
  boys are not doing as well. And again she's also not recognizing the fact
• 1:14:11
  that maybe girls are getting a better education and they're coming out of college and
• 1:14:15
  they're getting they're making more money, even though they're also in more debt.
• 1:14:19
  But because they're making more money in the moment, they're also looking for men
• 1:14:24
  who make as much or more than them. And there's no conversation happening around
• 1:14:28
  that. And this goes back to what she was saying before, which he's
• 1:14:30
  like, oh, you know, men are not getting laid, men are
• 1:14:32
  lonely, but like they shouldn't be blaming women for that. They shouldn't be
• 1:14:35
  attacking women. They should be looking at themselves. And it's like, yeah,
• 1:14:39
  but the system isn't helping them, and it's also not helping women either,
• 1:14:44
  because it's putting them in like, you know, maybe like a slightly
• 1:14:47
  higher than average white collar like cubicle job. But now they're looking for a
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  guy that's like, you know, the top earning Andrew Tayde type and that,
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  and again we're back to square one. She wants to talk about Andrew
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  Tate, but she talks about like the men that follow him, not the
• 1:15:04
  women that are drawn to guys like that, and that men are simply looking
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  at that and they're like, well, that works for him, maybe it'll
• 1:15:13
  work for me. Maybe that's the issue. But no, it's always just
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  like what are men doing, how are men affected? What's men's behavior,
• 1:15:19
  what's men's attitude, what are men doing to women? How are men a
• 1:15:23
  threat to women? Et cetera. Nothing about women at all, even though
• 1:15:27
  women are a part of this every step of the way. Yeah, all
• 1:15:33
  right, let's play some more of this, allies. I also think there
• 1:15:36
  is a fundamental war on masculinity and just gender as a whole. Yeah.
• 1:15:40
  I think what Dana is is a war on the natural world. I think
• 1:15:45
  we're s yeah, but I think it started with men. Though. See
• 1:15:46
  there's another one where She's like, oh, they're attacking men and women.
• 1:15:50
  Yeah, but they started with attacking men. M like you know, oh
• 1:15:57
  those are from me yesterday. Okay, anyway, back to back to this.
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  We're so completely divorced from the natural world now, and gender is kind
• 1:16:04
  of like that last stronghold that there's a war not only against masculinity but femininity.
• 1:16:12
  I've been told, and women in my generation have been told that the
• 1:16:15
  only way for us to be equal is to become you, guys, is
• 1:16:18
  to become men. We have to work like you, we have to fuck
• 1:16:20
  like you guys to do this. It's everything that makes us equal is destroying
• 1:16:26
  things that made us different. They have opportunities that you don't have. Not
• 1:16:31
  that you have to do the things that men do, but feminists invented this
• 1:16:36
  idea that men had freedoms you didn't. So you're not going to be free
• 1:16:41
  unless you do the things that feminists said men could do and women couldn't,
• 1:16:45
  which was always a lie. Yep, because honestly, and the reason why
• 1:16:53
  I'm pushing back on that is because I think women do need to understand systems
• 1:16:59
  thinking and the fact that systems have limitations and you can't keep asking You cannot
• 1:17:05
  keep asking, especially when you're asking. When you look at the system and
• 1:17:14
  what underwrites the system, it's men. And you can't keep being offended by
• 1:17:17
  men saying, Hey, I don't want to do that. I don't want
• 1:17:23
  to keep doing this. I don't want to keep being directed by a bunch
• 1:17:26
  of people who do not understand the sacrifices I'm making to do what they want.
• 1:17:30
  And when I'm not able to do something, they call me a villain,
• 1:17:34
  you know, or I simply don't want to do something. They call
• 1:17:38
  me a villain when nobody's entitled to it in the first place. So they're
• 1:17:42
  not Men are not villains for saying no, and men are not villains for
• 1:17:45
  saying for questioning the system. In fact, one thing I would ask Ashley
• 1:17:48
  Saint Clair is what responsibility does she think women have? Like? Do women
• 1:17:57
  have responsibility? Are there things that women need to accomplish in order for society
• 1:18:03
  to function properly? Or are women just women? Are women the primary directors
• 1:18:10
  of society and yet they're completely irrelevant to its functioning? Because that's what you're
• 1:18:15
  saying. When you're saying that women are not responsible, you're saying that women
• 1:18:19
  are completely irrelevant to the functioning of society despite having the majority of the vote,
• 1:18:24
  or claiming for themselves the majority of the vote. I mean, even
• 1:18:27
  if all men voted, women would still be the majority of voters. You
• 1:18:31
  know, do women have? Are women completely irrelevant to the functioning of society?
• 1:18:36
  If they're not completely irrelevant to the functioning of society, then they are
• 1:18:41
  responsible for those aspects of society that only function because they're doing their job.
• 1:18:47
  How do you how do you get away from that? It's just away from
• 1:18:55
  how do you get away from the majority of the of the electorate being women?
• 1:18:58
  How do you get away from that? I think there's only a little
• 1:19:00
  bit left, So we'll play on this idea that equals means the same.
• 1:19:04
  Yes, then you're going to erode all the natural differences between men and women,
• 1:19:10
  which are the source of the strength of human society, not weakness.
• 1:19:13
  Men and women being different and complementary is a source of strength, yes,
• 1:19:17
  right, But to the functioning of society is essentially if you don't want to
• 1:19:23
  take responsibility, then you are omitting that women are irrelevant, or you are
• 1:19:26
  saying that women should be made irrelevant. Like literally, this is a litanmus
• 1:19:30
  test. Okay, somebody says to me, I'm thinking we should repeal the
• 1:19:35
  Nineteenth. I'm like, okay, well, why do you think that all
• 1:19:38
  of the arguments I'm like, those are good arguments. Let's think about them,
• 1:19:41
  let's let's discuss them. Let's see what kind of responsibility needs to be
• 1:19:45
  taken here her, somebody says, repeal the nineteenth. I am so offended.
• 1:19:49
  All right, okay, so what you're saying is a discussion of women's
• 1:19:54
  responsibilities is not on the table. That means the only way to go forward
• 1:20:00
  if women are not going to take responsibility for their power over society is to
• 1:20:04
  marginalize women's power over society as much as humanly possible. You have made,
• 1:20:12
  Ashley Sinclair, you have made the strongest argument for repealing the Nineteenth. Yet,
• 1:20:16
  if you are unwilling to entertain any questions of your responsibility, not just
• 1:20:24
  what you're owed, but what you are responsible for, then you are an
• 1:20:29
  argument for repealing the Nineteenth. And like I said, like I said,
• 1:20:35
  I can't. I can't. I can't find it in me to be offended
• 1:20:40
  at men facing the prospect of going and dying to support this dying system are
• 1:20:45
  going in and underwriting this failing system in their blood because women are sending them.
• 1:20:53
  And believe me, there are a lot of women who are chomping at
• 1:20:55
  the bit in Ukraine and other interventions because you know the underdog. And I,
• 1:21:00
  yeah, I get it, I understand, I sympathize with it.
• 1:21:03
  But it's also a narrative that leads to an increased confrontation and men going out
• 1:21:08
  and dying. And that's unavoidable. That conclusion is not unavoidable. You have
• 1:21:13
  women chomping at the bit for war, and I've seen them, and they're
• 1:21:16
  sending them, and I can I cannot find it in myself to be offended
• 1:21:20
  at men looking at this, looking at the fact that they are now all
• 1:21:26
  on a registry to potentially go to underwrite this failing system, and the and
• 1:21:31
  the people who are responsible for a majority of the political decisions in it are
• 1:21:38
  not willing to take any kind of responsibility or entertain any discussion of their responsibility
• 1:21:45
  for it. Now. Men, like, as a woman, if I
• 1:21:50
  were in that situation, I would that my misogyny would be off the charts.
• 1:21:59
  Yeah, I would be replaying. I would just you wouldn't even see
• 1:22:03
  I'd just be like a nuclear bomb going off and just like you know,
• 1:22:09
  with a word misogyny over top, because I would be so flip and furious
• 1:22:15
  like that that that that a group of women is deciding for me that I
• 1:22:21
  have to go die for a system that they are forcing into a failure state.
• 1:22:28
  You know, this would just this would infuriate me beyond belief. I'm
• 1:22:32
  surprised men are just like, uh, well, let's let's discuss this issue
• 1:22:38
  of a spot of tea. You know, let's let's let's let's let's let's
• 1:22:41
  discuss the nuances. I'm not trying to be dismissive. Let's discuss the nuances.
• 1:22:45
  Let's have a beer, you know, just like have a little round
• 1:22:47
  table, throw some ideas back and forth. You know, they're just this
• 1:22:54
  is so gracious like of men to just be like, you know, let's
• 1:22:59
  just let's just chill and just throw this idea around, play with it,
• 1:23:03
  think about it, question it, maybe point it out to women, you
• 1:23:06
  know, instead of getting absolutely lividly pissed at this situation. You know,
• 1:23:17
  the fact that men are dealing it with it in an intellectual way, in
• 1:23:21
  a way that's reasonable and fair and that's just in all, the repeal the
• 1:23:26
  nineteenth is is a conversation about women's responsibilities is a testament to men. It's
• 1:23:31
  a testament to right wing men who are constantly being undermined by women in the
• 1:23:36
  pursuit of their political aims. Right then, they're just having this intellectual discussion
• 1:23:42
  about it, and women are flipping their shit. Okay, yeah, I
• 1:23:47
  mean it's except a discussion of women's responsibilities. You are the argument why they
• 1:23:54
  should have none. Okay, yeah, yeah, it's the conversations. That's
• 1:24:00
  all I'm really saying. Really, dicey crap, No, it's okay.
• 1:24:04
  I don't know that this gets any better. I think this was about as
• 1:24:08
  far as I thought, Oh this would be good enough, you know what
• 1:24:11
  talk about Okay, with that, I'm like, okay, we can stop
• 1:24:14
  it here. I don't think athlete Saint Clair is going to add much,
• 1:24:17
  but I think that, you know, we get the point across. I
• 1:24:21
  feel like I put in a good you know, a good shift shoveling shit
• 1:24:28
  and trying to explain things from the perspective of a weirdo. I'm not going
• 1:24:35
  to see the enlightened centrist perspective, So we should Okay, Honestly, I
• 1:24:42
  feel like I'm somebody who sort of sits outside of these issues in some ways
• 1:24:45
  because I am, like I said, a masculine woman. I do have
• 1:24:49
  an interest in systems, but I also have an interest in people. Like
• 1:24:55
  it's it's it's sort of it's sort of both for me, which is why,
• 1:25:00
  like, when I look at the interactions of people, I look at
• 1:25:02
  them in terms of systems. I know that sounds really weird, but that's
• 1:25:05
  where where a lot of my insights come from. So I mean, when
• 1:25:10
  I look at this, I can see what men are upset about, and
• 1:25:13
  they are upset, you know, because when guys get upset, they just
• 1:25:15
  sort of go deeper and deeper into the well, actually, you know what
• 1:25:19
  I mean, like the the the intellectualizing this, like just making it about
• 1:25:27
  calm discussion, which is good because it should be, because this needs to
• 1:25:29
  be calmly discussed. But I'm pretty sure there's a lot of guys who are
• 1:25:33
  truly pissed about that knowledge or that that heads up that, yeah, you're
• 1:25:38
  probably we're gearing up for something, the government is gearing up for another let's
• 1:25:43
  throw men's bodies at a problem, you know, and like the fact that
• 1:25:48
  this discussion has turned to the repeal the nineteenth instead of the imminent loss of
• 1:25:55
  a generation of young men's bodily autonomy is astounding because that's what conscription is.
• 1:26:00
  Like, guys, it's so you're saying your property, were we dispose of
• 1:26:05
  you as we wish? Yeah? Actually, you know what, I want
• 1:26:09
  to read a couple of the comments, so I'll just read them and you
• 1:26:14
  can react. So con Contrarian Commando said, disappointed with Kissing and Francis those
• 1:26:20
  are the two guys that host the Triggernountry that they would not push back when
• 1:26:25
  she said she wants YouTube to ban the red Pill as they are pro free
• 1:26:29
  speech, especially when miss indery is completely the norm in mainstream TV, movies,
• 1:26:33
  colleges, and Hollywood. GM dash dB four BV says, men can't
• 1:26:42
  never talk I think E means can never talk about women's issues, but women
• 1:26:45
  can always talk about men's issues. But they don't. No, they can
• 1:26:49
  though, like when nobody when women start talking about men, everybody listens.
• 1:26:54
  When men talk about men, nobody listens or at least very few. Uh.
• 1:26:59
  Last time and this is rob me eight VP says, last time I
• 1:27:03
  checked it wasn't the conservatives who said that women have to act more like men
• 1:27:06
  to be equal with men. Because she tried to claim that, oh,
• 1:27:10
  this is an attack on women's you know, sex as well. It's like,
• 1:27:14
  yeah, but who's doing that? Conflating hate with any sort of criticism
• 1:27:19
  is the ultimate sign of a weak position. That's from candid ends jutsu one.
• 1:27:29
  Let me see how do I sort them? It says sort by okay,
• 1:27:33
  yeah, yeah, top comments, Yeah good. Three sentences in and
• 1:27:39
  I knew this lady was dim. That's another one. Nobody is seriously debating
• 1:27:43
  women's right to vote. Also at ten oh three, what is the topest
• 1:27:45
  you're going into the election? Constantine the immigration and economy? Ashley, it's
• 1:27:49
  abortion rights. This is the voice of someone who lives in a bubble and
• 1:27:54
  is delusional. But again I said this, like the Democrat start turning women
• 1:28:00
  into a voting block based on the abortion issue, whether those women are getting
• 1:28:03
  abortions or not, whether they are invested it or not. Because they are,
• 1:28:09
  they're pulling on the woman card. They're pulling on the team woman.
• 1:28:13
  Are you on team women? You have to vote this way? And because
• 1:28:16
  Ashley Saint Claire herself said, women are better at oppression. They do as
• 1:28:20
  they're told. They are doing that they know that this will work on them.
• 1:28:25
  So while men are concerned with like I don't know, like bigger things
• 1:28:30
  like freaking wars and immigration and the economy and like you know, printing money
• 1:28:35
  like crazy and crime and all these other you know, bigger issues, women
• 1:28:43
  are like but but possible maybe womb issue that I may never actually care about,
• 1:28:50
  like you know, only some some woman somewhere I don't even know might
• 1:28:55
  have to like make a terrible decision after her already terrible decision about her unborn
• 1:29:01
  child, and I have to take a sight on that. Then we got
• 1:29:06
  a debunker Nader, who says she is controlled opposition. Goose ninety nine says
• 1:29:12
  she lost me when she said it's irrelevant that men and women have drastically different
• 1:29:15
  voting patterns. So again that was her being dismissive, like who cares,
• 1:29:19
  you can't change that. But women are voting against the interests of our country
• 1:29:24
  and for the interests of themselves. And yeah, so it looks like all
• 1:29:30
  of this is pretty based like commentary, this lady is right on target.
• 1:29:35
  She's just holding the gun backwards lull. When she talks about AI makes me
• 1:29:41
  cringe. Okay, so that doesn't matter. Ashley needs to walk a mile
• 1:29:45
  in a young man's shoes. She is belittling all of their concerns. So
• 1:29:49
  there you go. Next week on Triggernometry, solve homelessness by telling men or
• 1:29:55
  telling them to just buy houses, just touch grab, just talk to women,
• 1:30:00
  just lower your expectations. Do these people really think that one third of
• 1:30:03
  men under thirty have never talked to a woman before or have sky high expectations
• 1:30:08
  for a girlfriend. I guess you can't expect a pretty woman to ever understand
• 1:30:12
  the life of an average slash unattractive man. Same but the same difference.
• 1:30:16
  But at least those two should have pushed back a little. That's a bit
• 1:30:20
  of that's a bit of shade there. That's true though, that's true.
• 1:30:25
  No, but there he's basically saying that they understand the life of an average
• 1:30:30
  or unattractive man. Yes, well, but like most of us are average,
• 1:30:34
  that's what average means. So we're literally what it means, guys,
• 1:30:41
  mighty mighty mid Yes, all right, so I got a superchow, a
• 1:30:45
  big one. Hey, hey, they tell him nar with the big old
• 1:30:50
  superchow okay, might be interesting. Is this like a chaser thing? Yeah,
• 1:30:55
  a little chaser. I'll send it to you via the Discordy, yeah,
• 1:31:00
  I'll read the super child from Telenar who gives us twenty bucks and says
• 1:31:05
  encouraging thing. I noted the comments on the YouTube video you are reviewing are
• 1:31:10
  pretty negative regarding the quality of the interview. The host might not have done
• 1:31:14
  the most stellar job, but their audience is much more skeptical of this woman's
• 1:31:17
  knowledge and intelligence. Rightfully so, in my opinion, regarding the education system,
• 1:31:21
  feminists have had a massive amount of influence on curricula, teaching methods,
• 1:31:27
  hiring practices, and of course the ability to fire male teachers on the basis
• 1:31:30
  of accusations. So this is an example of a very mediocre woman being ignorant
• 1:31:35
  and dodging responsibility. However, the sheer amount of things she is getting wrong
• 1:31:41
  means you have a lot of material to work with. I remember what roses
• 1:31:45
  grow in Happy Friday? Oh, thank you telling Nor, thank you Tellnar
• 1:31:50
  that's cool? And then I got a super chat. But you want to
• 1:31:54
  respond to that first? On? Oh of just let me take a look.
• 1:31:58
  Uh the education system. No, yes, it's I don't disagree with
• 1:32:03
  anything like good, Yeah, I mean it sounds good, that's true.
• 1:32:06
  And look, the only thing I will say is that I gotta admit that
• 1:32:13
  I watch a lot of interviews and discussions and debates and conversations, and the
• 1:32:19
  one thing I will say is it is really frustrating sometimes that the discourse is
• 1:32:24
  this low level and then that I'm not a part of it. And I
• 1:32:29
  was very I was very happy to be able to talk to the guy I
• 1:32:30
  talked to yesterday because I think it's time, like we it's time to stop
• 1:32:34
  giving a fuck about about women's feelings and how they're like, oh, I
• 1:32:39
  don't like that he said that thing. It's like, yeah, the comfort
• 1:32:42
  that you're feeling around that is part of the problem, because like we're not
• 1:32:46
  able to have these conversations. And we were like you can look look at
• 1:32:50
  old interviews and debates from like the nineteen sixties and the nineteen fifties and look
• 1:32:56
  out how frank those discussions were that so this like they were able to just
• 1:33:00
  talk about this stuff and it'd be granted there were almost no women on there.
• 1:33:03
  But maybe that's the point. I don't know, like I'm just saying,
• 1:33:06
  like I just wouldn't say that one of the one of the biggest beneficiaries
• 1:33:11
  to people finally just saying women would you can't care about your emotions? Yeah,
• 1:33:17
  is gonna be women because you you have that This is this is pathological.
• 1:33:23
  This is the behavior of people who are possessed by a phobia. And
• 1:33:28
  your emotions are doing you no favors. They're they're leading you down to a
• 1:33:31
  very dark path. And I think women need to need to start realizing that
• 1:33:38
  a conversation about women's responsibility they want to be the primary voting block, then
• 1:33:43
  a conversation about their political responsibility has to be on the table, and they
• 1:33:48
  can't respond with offense or fear. They need to resolve those issues in themselves
• 1:33:56
  because they represent psychological hang ups that women primarily will suffer from, because they're
• 1:34:02
  the ones who live in their own skulls. Like this is again, you
• 1:34:08
  can't always be comfortable if you want to pursue anything in your life, if
• 1:34:12
  you want to pursue any kind of excellence or external standard, you have to
• 1:34:15
  allow that you're going to be uncomfortable. You know, some of the best
• 1:34:18
  things in life come from being uncomfortable. Indeed, indeed, all right,
• 1:34:26
  so I got a oh, I got a super chat, and then i'll
• 1:34:28
  play the in the Okay, good, I'll do the super chat first and
• 1:34:30
  then you do the thank you and then we'll look at the video. So
• 1:34:34
  I got another super chow, I'll put that out first. Sorry. Dane
• 1:34:39
  gives us five bucks and says conscription is a violation of a basic human right,
• 1:34:43
  that being a full body violation and attack on men's bodily autonomy. But
• 1:34:47
  it's not a surprise that this is acceptable. Just look at male genlemulation.
• 1:34:50
  That's where it starts. Yes, it's true. And of course, again
• 1:34:55
  the abortion debate being the only thing that the one motivating thing for women,
• 1:35:00
  and the fact that like going to war and using men's bodies in war does
• 1:35:05
  not like even come close to that for them is evidence, is proof of
• 1:35:10
  what we're talking about. The problem is that women can't see how their decisions
• 1:35:14
  affect the lives of men. So because they're too worried about like there,
• 1:35:18
  maybe they get pregnant and they may have to deal with that. So anyway,
• 1:35:21
  Zarians gives us five bucks and says they can never be voting for themselves
• 1:35:26
  when voting for more government, they're actually voting for the establishment. Will make
• 1:35:30
  them wish for hardship, yes, but they don't know that. They think
• 1:35:33
  they're just getting what they want. Okay, Alison, do your thank yous?
• 1:35:36
  Okay, well I have just give me a second. I want to
• 1:35:42
  thank missus Anna Arc for five dollars put through the support at feedabadgery dot com
• 1:35:47
  slash support. So thank you, missus Anna Arc. So that plays a
• 1:35:51
  thing for that, sure, thank you, come again okay. And then
• 1:35:56
  there is FROs f fro is the first three I'm not going to do say
• 1:36:01
  anything more. Who gives us ten dollars for our fundraiser at feedbadgery dot com
• 1:36:06
  slash support. So thank thank you. Excellent. And then the superit the
• 1:36:13
  rest of the two super chows. So I suppose we can Yeah, well
• 1:36:18
  I read I read them already, so I think that is it. So
• 1:36:24
  we can do the video now, Yeah, see the video? Okay,
• 1:36:27
  all right, so let me let me just drag it over sacrificing for making
• 1:36:30
  sure things work? All right? When someone asks how safe do you feel
• 1:36:38
  when you're doing tower work if you can't if you can't see what's happening.
• 1:36:44
  There's a there's a thing missing. Yeah. Okay, So a man is
• 1:36:47
  going up to do the cell tower work, you know, like fix the
• 1:36:51
  cell towers, and he's been asked how safe he feels on the cell tower
• 1:36:56
  and he's showing all of the missing nuts and and what and like the loose
• 1:37:04
  bolts or the missing bolts and the loose nuts on the actual tower. It
• 1:37:10
  is when you watch it, it's freaking terrifying. Yeah, and it's amazing.
• 1:37:15
  Like this whatever this man pays is paid. He's not paid enough.
• 1:37:20
  But this is, this is this is one of the part. This is
• 1:37:25
  this man represents a part of the system that's keeping it all together. Yeah.
• 1:37:30
  And again, like men are the ones keeping this system together for the
• 1:37:36
  most part, I mean, and some women sort of like me who are
• 1:37:40
  more masculine. We are responsible for keeping the system together, and we have
• 1:37:46
  the least amount of voice in it. And that's not fair and there needs
• 1:37:51
  to be a discussion about it. Okay, all right, So once again,
• 1:37:58
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  as well as a rumble rant. Or it was a super chat and a
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  twenty one gave us a dollar and says, didn't rewatch, but I'm confident
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  she's yesterday's Democrat voter. I also wouldn't put it past her to say,
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  I know feminism gives men and boys no solutions, but shame on them for
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  being frustrated. All right, thank you for that, and yes, it's
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  true. And then I got a super chat from I got to put it
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  on screen here so that we can display it Bourbon Decay and Bourbon Decay gives
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  us five pounds and says, hi, badgers, what's the what's Max doing
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  She's he's Max Derrett. Max Diret is still cool. I don't have any
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  what I don't think there's any bad blood. I just think that he he
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  wanted he'd got burned out on all of the because this stuff's hard, you
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  know, and and he's but he is doing content on YouTube, but mostly
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  it's sort of like philosophical essays, and I think that's more up his alli
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  and more of his interests. So but yeah, Max is doing really well.
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  Actually, his channel's big. He's another person that got the golden the
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  Midas touch, I guess, or at least, like you know, I
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  got to know him while he was still really small, and now he's pretty
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  massive. So yeah, still doing good stuff on YouTube. Okay, So
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